By Justin Rood

Apr 17, 2008 10:37am

Radical Ties an Issue as Dems Debate

The Democratic candidates’ ties to violent domestic radicals came up in last night’s presidential debate, as ABC News’ Nitya Venkataraman reported, highlighting a Clinton pardon I had omitted while first reporting on this story in February.

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., hit Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for having served on the board of a Chicago nonprofit with Bill Ayers, a former member of the 1960s-era left-wing radical group the Weather Underground. "What they did was set bombs, and in some cases people died. I know Sen Obama is a good man and I respect him greatly but this is certainly something the Republicans will be raising."

Obama hit back, pointing out — as I did in February — that Clinton had her own ties to the group.

"President Clinton pardoned two members of the Weather Underground," Obama said, "which is a bigger deal than serving on a board with someone."

As I reported in February when the Clinton camp first raised the issue, in 2001 then-president Bill Clinton pardoned Susan Rosenberg, a Weather Underground member arrested in 1984 while unloading 740 pounds of dynamite from the back of her car.

But Clinton indeed pardoned a second — Linda Evans, who had been convicted of several charges stemming from a series of bombings in the 1980s.

User Comments

So, Hillary supporters. You’ll loose and your party will be taken over by leftists. Who will you vote for then?
McCain, Nader or Obama? Be honest now.

Posted by: S | April 17, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

why would stepanopolis ask a righ wing talking point question given by sean hannity of fox news

Posted by: emer akins | April 17, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

This wasn’t an issue until George pushed it for FOX News. Peter Mansbridge must have turned over in his grave.
ABC News should be ashamed, why not just put the sign “Fox News Subsidiary”.
Shameful!

Posted by: Susan, Cary, NC | April 17, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

One of the most biased forums I have ever witnessed. Fox news could have done better. Shame on ABC for airing this facade and calling it ‘debate!’

Posted by: Joe E | April 17, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am

You have got to be kidding me.

Posted by: js | April 17, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

More nonsense taken from the worst ‘debate’ I’ve ever seen. The moderators should be ashamed of themselves. I would remind ABC that we are in the middle of a catastrophic invasion and economy. And this is the best they can do? Gossip Girls?
And now you treat it as if it’s ‘news’?
For shame.

Posted by: Stephen | April 17, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Have you people even read a newspaper lately? This is the kind of bull****, trivial politics you want in this country?
How about the disaster of a war going on? How about the economy tanking? How about torture sanctioned by the white house?
THIS is all you care about?
You know what, forget it. Go back to watching american idol with drool running down the side of your face. I’ll take my country back, thanks.

Posted by: Daniel Hayes | April 17, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

You call this news? Geez Louise, you are out of touch. The Weather Underground????? I mean, I’m 52 years old, and the Weather Underground was before my time. What the HECK are you doing? There is a president who thinks torture is cool. A century-old investment bank collapsed literally overnight. Four airlines disappeared last week. And you think we need to worry about the Weather Underground? Are you crazy?
You must have an assistant who fills your gas tank for you, and you haven’t noticed the signs at gas stations, you know, $3.50 a gallon? At least that would partly excuse you for wasting valuable air time and internet space dwelling on the Weather Underground.
Next up! Breaking news about Sacco-Vanzetti! Tune in!

Posted by: Aral | April 17, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Hillary has a mind and a mouth of her own. Anything Bill Clinton did as president was his decision. If nothing else, we have learned these two each think and speak for themselves and are not afraid to disagree with one another even publicly.
If she is elected President, I doubt they will even remain married.

Posted by: Jill Mitchell | April 17, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Both of these losers are associated with leftwing radicals who sought to destroy this country. Just mention FALN, the Black Panthers, and the Weather Underground. HRC has enough baggage that she should be ashamed of herself based on her idolyzing Saul Alinsky.

Posted by: Frustrated Voter | April 17, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I am just sick an tired of the way mainstream media attempts to pose as OBJECTIVE and instead play on the TEAR DOWN mantra of dis-unity and hate to forward someones’ agenda… never for the up-liftment of people or the common good… we must stand up to this and show that the NEW generation are not stupid or ignorant of the deep ingrained bias that is purported as NEWS…
PS- I am ###### off with ABC and the SHAM of a debate they had… they asked Hillary ONE question on Bosnia then went on to hammer Obama on everything for 53 minutes… I can’t afford GASOLINE to drive to work and these so called journalists are pressing Obama on Ayers and Flag Pins and Rev Wright like if these issues have not been pounded over and over and over… They attempted to FOOL people into believeing that Hillary did not have the heads up… I am willing to bet that this whole thing was set-up for Hillary… she knew what was coming, they had to put in the sniper story to hide the CHESS MOVE except that they checkmated themselves… because all it showed no matter who you support, is just how BIASED the media can be… I am indeed BITTER and saddened by the lack of respect ABC has shown everyone… they have taken the entire presidential process down into the gutter and we as a people MUST not be satisfied with this… LOOK at what is going on around us domestically and in the world!!! Are they really serious… you tell me?

Posted by: John | April 17, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

shame on you, ABC, shame on you

Posted by: Mark Bergseid | April 17, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Why was Hillary not asked the questions about her court case in Calif. and her dealing with a convict, her religious cult, her comments in Alabama when her husband was running for president and she said screw the little man. The attach on Obama was outrageous.
I know you read the Huffington Post and you already knew the above things. However, you choose to do a hatchet job on Obama and let Hillary off the hook.

Posted by: Alice Martin | April 17, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

This is true she has more dirty laundry then he does.If she get the nod they will tear her to shreads.No stone unturned.If they go deep enought they will ruin the Clinton’s both of them….

Posted by: honest | April 17, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Are you kidding. The connection is so twisted and small to be ridiculous. Shame on you.

Posted by: tyler | April 17, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

It does’t make sense,even when you knew
he (OBAMA)is lying the AMERICA people
loves him.

Posted by: vinnie | April 17, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Guess it was to close to the truth that is why it was not posted….

Posted by: honest | April 17, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

I am sick and tired of this inquisition on Barack Obama. The Clintons have been associated with Peter F. Paul and many other crooks. Bill Clinton sat on a board with Farrakhan to organize the Million March in DC.
For God’s sake, there are REAL issues to be discussed in this campaign. Give us GOOD journalists, not the Clinton’s lackeys (Stephanopoulos and others).

Posted by: Pepou | April 17, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

What a poor use of American’s time. There where no questions to Clinton regarding Mark Penn, NAFATA and The Clinton Library donors Also Mr. Obama was constantly interrupted while Mrs. Clinton was allowed to speak freely. ABC should be ashamed.

Posted by: joel peebles | April 17, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am

There were no such pardons. Obama got it wrong, and so have you by following him.
Their sentences were commuted.

Posted by: commonsensenj | April 17, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

This report is erroneous. No pardons were ever issued. Obama got it wrong last night, and so have you by following him without basic fact-checking first.
The sentences were commuted; a vast difference.

Posted by: commonsensenj | April 17, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

45″ on Bosnia, weatherman, Wright, and ‘bitter’! What a shame. Just because these ‘seeds’ have been planted in people’s minds, doesn’t mean that ABC should have nourished them in the debate. I expected better from George and Charlie…and ABC. In the final debate the
ISSUES should have been at the forefront.

Posted by: herb-les | April 17, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Former President Bill Clinton is not running for President.
So that has no bearing on Hillary.
I don’t know about your guys, but many times I do not see eye to eye with my husband.
That would be like saying Michelle Obama did not want Obama running for president, so he should not be elected, for that reason.

Posted by: seah | April 17, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

i told my wife that abc already took a story from sean hannity of fix news to use after the debate about ayres. are you kidding me the only question you did not ask was obama a muslim—ABC SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!! GEORGE WAS IN THE CLINTON WHITE HOUSE HE SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE DEBATE!! 50 MINUTES OF INTERNET GOSSIP IN A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE–ONLY ONE QUESTION ON FOREIGN POLICY AND A BUNCH OF GOTCHA QUESTIONS–WHEN IS THE MEDIA GOING TO COVER THE ISSUES AND STOP TRYING TO GET RATINGS FOR THE CORPORATION WHO OWNS THEM? TO ASK ABOUT A FLAG PIN? WHY DIDN’T YOU ASK CLINTON WHERE HER PIN WAS–OR WHY DIDN’T YOU BOTH HAVE ONE ON–I MEAN COME ON–WHY DON’T YOU DO A STORY ABOUT HOW OBAMA HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC SERVICE FOR 20 YEARS? ALSO TO ASK IF REV WRIGHT IS PATRIOT AFTER REV WRIGHT GAVE UP A COLLEGE DEFERMENT AND JOINED THE MARINES AND LATER RECEIVE 3 PRESIDENTIAL ACCOMIDATIONS!! WHY DON’T YOU DO A STORY ABOUT REV WRIGHT AND BE FAIR ABOUT THE GOOD AND BAD? YOU TWO SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES HOPEFULLY THE VOTERS ARE SMARTER THAN YOU TWO ELITISTS!!!!!!

Posted by: william | April 17, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am

I can’t tell you how disappointed I was in last nights debate. Since when is ABC News (my news outlet of choice) a mouthpiece for FOX?
I tuned in to hear about the ISSUES this country is facing. I am smart enough to know that neither candidate is always going to be on their game and they will make gaffes. I do not think that bringing up someone from the 1960′s and blaming Obama for his actions (when Obama was a kid) was thought provoking. I have never been disappointed in Charlie Gibson or George Stephanopolis until last night.

Posted by: L. Kopriva | April 17, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Stupid issue. Stupid question. I paid over $60.00 to fill up my car today. They spent 1 minute on that problem, but over 5 on this non-issue. Do you think people losing their homes care about Obama serving on a board with someone or who Bill pardoned? The banality of some of the questions was amazing.

Posted by: Ginger | April 17, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Weather Underground was a COINTELPRO operation to discredit anti-war activists with false-flag acts of violence. So of course some were “pardoned”.

Posted by: JEdgar | April 17, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

The debate: a shameful display, embarrassing really, by the moderators. I wanted to see a substantive debate and the moderators turned it into a superficial, meaningless charade.

Posted by: John W. Willison | April 17, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

ABC is simply trying to clean up their mess from last night. Too late. I’m switching to NBC.

Posted by: Que | April 17, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Thumbs way down on the way ABC handled this debate. Your organization continues the perpetuation of finger pointing and avoids the real issues this country needs to hear and talk about. This kind of broadcasting won’t be winning you any ratings. Next time you host a debate ABC, I for one, won’t be watching.

Posted by: S. Lewis | April 17, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

MAYBE OBAMA IS CORRECT:
1. Maybe words DON’T matter.
2. Maybe friends DON’T matter.
3. Maybe past actions DON’T matter.
4. Maybe past associations DON’T matter.
5. Maybe experience DOESN’T matter.
I guess that leaves us with the question . . . just what DOES matter according to Obama?
Slick stump speeches? Psychotically-obsessed fans? Cult-like followers?

Posted by: TJ | April 17, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Don’t the democrats get it – they will get pegged as hippie, tax-and-spend, liberal, tree-hugging radicals no matter what? Even if they aren’t this is how the game works. So why play into it – it is silly for them to let Republicans define who is a patriot and who is an American.
The ‘Rovian’ strategy (I think it is a bit much to give him complete credit for this) is to attack the opponent at what the opponent perceives as their strength. The democrats, I think, get this and plan on doing the same to Senator McCain.

Posted by: MIguy | April 17, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Dear ABC,
What a stupid, shallow debate. With the problems afflicting the world today, the best you can come up with are questions regard flag pins and whether somebody’s former pastor loves America.
You should all feel a deep sense of shame.

Posted by: Glenn | April 17, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Both these women were convicted, and served time. Neither Ayers or Dohrn served time. I have not researched this, but I think I remember that there was talk in Chicago newspapers at the time that Ayers and Dohrn parents had somehow paid off somebody (Chicago politics). Both Ayers and Dohrn are from well-off families.

Posted by: svsolis | April 17, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Hillary neither served on a board with people from that radical group (Obama has) nor did she pardon them(President Clinton did). Just where is SHE involved with them? Nowhere. You are reaching to try to make her on par with Obama’s ties to them.

Posted by: SM | April 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

ABC NEWS: I’M A HUGE CHARLIE GIBSON FAN BUT THAT DEBATE WAS NOT A DEBATE. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY HOSTILE TOWARDS OBAMA AND MOST OF THE TIME WAS SPENT ON STUPID ISSUES WITH NO DEBATING, JUST ATTACKS ON OBAMA. IT’S THE ABSOLUTE WORST DEBATE OF THE 21! SHAME ON YOU!

Posted by: Judy Mulloy | April 17, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Hillary Clinton also has ties to Communists. She worked for Treuhaft, Walker, and Bernstein in Oakland. They represented radicals such as the Black Panthers. Treuhaft was a member of the Communist Party.

Posted by: JB | April 17, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

Thanks for mentioning Willam C. Ayers – finally! It only took 2 years for ABCNews to wake up!
Thank you.

Posted by: Mohsen | April 17, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

George S. used to work for Clintons!!!!

Posted by: Matt | April 17, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

We need a new loyalty oath question: “Do you now know, or have you ever known a member of the Weather Underground?”

Posted by: Chuck | April 17, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

The debate was a travesty. No questions on NAFTA or CAFTA? No real questions on the economy except for the tax question? This was a hit job on Obama which is understandable but how does it convince voters which candidate has the best platform? ABC should be ashamed of itself. No surprise they are the being panned by everybody for their utter lack of proffesional behavior.

Posted by: Dann | April 17, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Oh how the obama followers melt down when their Golden Boy Messiah true self is exposed. He lost the debate because he is ineffective as a leader. His only decision capabilities are to further divide the Democratic party and this nation. What you saw last night is what you will get.
Now go out and vote for this weakling who will sell out American to the highest bidder – most likely Iran when the chips are really down. He couldn’t even stand up to Israel and as arrogant and condescending as he is, he expects everyone to believe everything he says even if he never says it.
What a pitiful excuse for a presidential candidate. Never, never, never – If anyone should drop out, it must be obama because with him come the Anti-American cabinet he will build.

Posted by: Lou | April 17, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

my my my, so you left wingers don’t like to answer tough questionshuh? how typical of liberals.

Posted by: Malcom | April 17, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

This is something I just found:
Much of what Ayers self-interestedly leaves out of his book is more personally embarrassing than illegal. Ayers takes care not to dwell on his own Establishment credentials. (His father was chairman of the energy company Commonwealth Edison, a fact Ayers conveys only by writing, “My dad worked for Edison.”)

Posted by: svsolis | April 17, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Hillary never pardoned them. Bill and Hillary are different persons. Hillary is the one running presidential campaign.
You Obama don’t try to make excuse. If someone else makes mistake, so you can make mistake too? Is that your logic? You are not a leader.
I vote for Hillary what so ever!!

Posted by: golfgirlusa | April 17, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

TO say ABC,is a dissiapointment would be a undrestatment ” News ” not hardly!!

Posted by: Joe | April 17, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Thanks ABC, I think you are the first of the broadcast media to treat Obama as if he was a candidate for President instead of giving him a free ride.
Wish you could have had time to make him actually answer the questions though, he skillfully avoided them all.
…but if you look at all the things he avoided…it’s rather apparent that he is far left of the far left…which causes a problem this late in the race.
If Hillary doesn’t figure a way to pull this off this late, we will have a radical as the democratic choice against a slightly moderate republican.
If only the press hadn’t given him a free ride for so long, perhaps we could have had a good look at both instead of the pep rallies on one side and the serious issues on the other.
Pep rallies are more fun.

Posted by: LarryB | April 17, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

I used to enjoy George Stephanopolous’ commentary and his show This Week. No more. I see Mr. Stephanopolous in a very different light after his performance last night, I am left extremely disappointed. Exactly what was he trying to do? He lost my respect, as did ABC news, which had up to now been an important source of news for me. I hope it was worth pandering to the Fox News crowd ABC, in the process you have lost some of your most faithful viewers.

Posted by: Dem | April 17, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

In all my years as a Police Officer this is the worst mugging I have ever seen. The moderators clearly could have taken this event to establish policy content from the two candidates. Instead they spent the evening trying to get the two of them involved in a cat fight. People are tired of all the in-fighting and the re-hashing of old news. We care about issues like the economy, the war, crime, etc. Slinging around old mud won’t help me deal with the rising cost of fuel, or the rising crime that affects the poor neighborhoods that I once patrolled. Shame on you ABC…

Posted by: Jack | April 17, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Well you are right, the democratic party has gone waaaaaay to far left, Obama is close to radical.
So if Obama wins the nomination, looks like folks with a little maturity and good sense will have no choice other than McCain.
Good grief I never thought a scenario like this would come up so the Republicans win the Presidentcy again, I mean the economy is bad and there is an unpopular war and if Obama wins it means McCain wins.

Posted by: LarryB | April 17, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

The only sad thing is I lost my respect for Charles Gibson. As for George, who does not have a mind of his own, can go work for Fox.
A sad day for ABC news if this is the only kind of debate event they can come up with.

Posted by: Sue T. | April 17, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Wow! ABC was on top of their game last night. Charlie and George, you guys rock! Finally, two moderators willing to ask the tough unanswered questions.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 17, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Charley and George I really thought this was going to be an informative debate based on the two of you moderating it. I can only hope ABC picked the questions you asked last night because it was obviously done for ratings and not as a service to the American voting public.

Posted by: Disappointed | April 17, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I want to live in Charlie Gibson’s America where we all make $200K a year..

Posted by: DS | April 17, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

It is a ligit question. It seems some people just want to put blnders on and vote. We have the right to know who Obama thru the company he keeps.

Posted by: David | April 17, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

I am so disappointed in ABC for hosting a debate that was not issue related. I wanted to hear more questions about what they plan to do about our nation’s economy, our energy crisis, unemployment, global warming, health care, ending this occupation of Iraq and differences between Republican’s eight years of governing vs. plans for a new Democratic administration.
I don’t want to see another debate between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama ever again, while Mr. McCain gets to pick and choose how he wants to be portrayed by his friendly media again, day after day. ABC you are certainly no CNN or CNBC! Now I know why I shouldn’t bother watching you for news!

Posted by: Harold Walker | April 17, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

LMAO So whats new? Most of the educated people already knew the Democrats were Terrorist/socalist/ wingnuts

Posted by: airmanc5 | April 17, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Hillary Clinton DID NOT pardon anyone, her husband did. Hillary Clinton did not serve on the board of directors with radicals, Obama did. Hillary Clinton did not attend a fundraiser at Ayers house, Obama did. Obama’s questionable associations and the judgement he uses are fair game to be asked about when running for the highest office in the country. These questions are legitimate, and the American people expect journalists to ask them and demand answers of our candidates. If the Democratic party is so far out on the left wing now, that these kinds of associations are okay, then I’ll join Lou Dobbs and his independents and give up being a Democrat. Obama needs to answer about Rezko, Auchi, Khalidi, Said, Wright, Farrakhan, Hamas and more. These questions aren’t going to stop just because Obama and his Nations demand it.

Posted by: rs | April 17, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

It is not against the law to be communists, it is reprehensible to be a terrorist. You Obama supporters are going off the deep end. Yes your man did poorly, accept this. It is so obvious that this is the job of the day, malign ABC for asking Obama difficult questions. His judgement is what is being questioned, as it should be.

Posted by: svsolis | April 17, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

How dare ABC ask some tough topical questions for Obama?
Don’t they know he has no practice answering tough questions and will likely embarrass himself?
Shame. lol.

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Wow! Command performance by Charlie and George. Finally, two moderators willing to ask the tough questions.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | April 17, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Poor poor Obama. That’s what happens when the media has been in the tank for you until now. You get lazy and you can’t answer the first tough questions posed to you since the election season started.

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

The American People deserved so much better than what we received last night from ABC News.
Torture, 2 Wars, the rise of autism, education,
global warming, gas prices, I could go on…..
but your network chose to ignore these issues,
you should be very embarrassed and ashamed of your obvious disservice….

Posted by: Elizabeth Bell-Haynes | April 17, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

ABC’s own “vote who won’ shows Obama 60% vs. Clinton 25%. Pollitico shows Obama 71% vs Clinton 29%. ABC has done Obama a favor , now voters believe the media is biased against Obama, so he is getting more support.
The real loser is ABC.

Posted by: JT. | April 17, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Why are you Obama supporters so miffed? All of these issues i.e who he associates with, 20 yr churh affiliation etc speak to his character and every time it’s mentioned you go spastic — except when it’s bad for Hilary. In last night’s debate whenever Obama was aked a straight question he immediately attacked Hilary — very immature — I almost felt sorry for him. Hilary DID discuss issues in a very concrete way and answered each question great. All Obama did was look sheepish and as I mentioned attacked her. Even when the VP question came up, she was quite gracious but he in turn turned it into s bitter strike at her; the look on her face showed just how naive she knows he is; he doesn’t even know when he’s being complimented — Edwards, by the way, had the same problem. NOW Time has his mother on the cover! What the media won’t do. I was actually proud of ABC; I expected less; you Obama types know it’s true that your boy got the heat and it bugs the heck out of you.

Posted by: druggstohr | April 17, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Shame on ABC News. Yesterday was a sad say for American Journalism. This is what happens when a political operative like George Stephanopoulous is allowed to masquerade as a respected journalist. They pay all these TV execs big bucks and this is the best they could come up with. Unbelievable.. George S and Charles G. have tarnished their images irreparably. George S. needs to be reminded he no longer works for the Clintons. That job has ended.

Posted by: Jim | April 17, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Monday, March 10, 2008 – Follow the Money: Obama’s Alsammarae “fairy tale”.
RezkoWatch has written a number of articles about Aiham Alsammarae, indicted political fixer Antoin “Tony” Rezko’s former classmate in the late 1970s at the Illinois Institute of Technology and former business partner.
Writing in the March 17, 2008, issue of Newsweek, Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff reported that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.)’s campaign “released e-mails” from October 2006 between his U.S. Senate office and U.S. officials “on behalf” of Alsammarae, who was still “imprisoned in Iraq.”
Although “the Obama camp initially declined to release the e-mails”, during the first week of March 2008 they did. The “e-mail exchange ‘appears routine’,” they wrote.
How much is Obama really hiding from us? He has too many ties with terrorists. Will we find out before it’s too late?

Posted by: VERYCONCERNED | April 17, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

SM- ‘fraid ya can’t have it both ways- she was the Co=President along with slick, that’s where her 35 years of experience comes from- as such she is part of the pardongate issue- in addition to the weather underground, Slick pardoned members of FALN, the Puerto Rican Terrorist organization (based in NY). Many think that this pardon was issued to gain her support among Latinos during her senate campaign, since it occurred during her 2000 campaign. Slick wouldn’t do that though, would he?

Posted by: david | April 17, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Fascinating turn of events at DailyKos today, commentary about last night’s debate. There is a strong sentiment that Obama performed terribly at the dlast night, and the chatter shows increasing worry. The Daily Kossacks typically wear blinders towards anything that is not positive about Obama, and yet open discussion of concerns is present today, with some confessed Obama supporters publicly posting that Obama really worried them last night.
I usually trash Daily Kos, because of their extreme leftist and elitist ways, but today, well I’m still going to trash them, but Obama has obviously done something to cause some of the effects of the koolaid to wear off, at least momentarily.
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Bottom line: Obama Bittergate seems to be starting to choke.
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 17, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

The moderators in last nights debate were disgusting. Can we ever get to the issues. We don’t need you to decide who we are going to vote for. Just give the candidates a chance to talk and let us decide who we support. inputting your own personal bias into the debate is unprofessional. You guys should stick to doing news about Brittany and Paris because that is all you are good at.

Posted by: Former viewer | April 17, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Hillary can dish it out but can’t take it. And why was everybody asking about Obama’s missing American flag lapel pin when it was quite obvious that Hillary doesn’t wear one. So does that mean she is unpatriotic?

Posted by: vicki | April 17, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Well you are right, the democratic party has gone waaaaaay to far left, Obama is close to radical.
So if Obama wins the nomination, looks like folks with a little maturity and good sense will have no choice other than McCain.
Good grief I never thought a scenario like this would come up so the Republicans win the Presidentcy again, I mean the economy is bad and there is an unpopular war and if Obama wins it means McCain wins.

Posted by: LarryB | April 17, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

How in God’s name can we take our country back if we don’t focus on the real problems. But some americans seem to thrive on the slim they can blog on. This nation has been taken away from its people,mainly due to the past 8 years of the republican disastrous administration, I being an american want my country back. I will cast my vote for the candidate with the integrity and desire to help make that happen.
Obama 08!
Yes we Can!

Posted by: merle7 | April 17, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

My grandmother use to say, “show me your friends and I’ll show you your future”. I think the questions to Obama and Hillary were completely appropriate. As an Independent, I am steering far, far away from both of these radicals.

Posted by: JB | April 17, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Last night’s debate was an absolute fraud. It seemed clear to me that the Clinton camp had been tipped off by Stephanopolous regarding questions he would ask, particularly the Ayres set-up. Stephanopolous proved once again that he’s just a political hack, doing Clinton’s bidding. I thought he was above all this tabloid stuff that consumed the first 45 minutes of the attempted Obama lynching. And Charlie, you made an fool of yourself, which, of course, everyone knew anyway. You’re a much better news READER, Charlie, then you are as a “spontaneous” questioner. Oh yeah, you’re also a fraud!

Posted by: SamMoore10 | April 17, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I’m glad that ABC brought up the association of Obama to William Ayers of the Weather Underground.
Just like Rezko, he supposedly only knew him for 3 hours of legal work he did for Rezko when he was with a law firm….then we find out Obama knew Rezko for over 12 years prior to buying his home in Hyde Park via Rezko; now William Ayers supposedly is just someone he sat on a Board with, when in reality his children go to the same school as Ayers, and they are very friendly. In fact, Ayers gave money to Obama’s campaign. Also, Ayers and Obama and Farrahkan are all neighbors.

Posted by: mary | April 17, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

I agree with the host of bloggers who think that ABC tuned this debate into a cheap “gotcha” circus directed mainly at Obama. Matters of substance for Americans were given secondary importance by the moderators. Both candidates did not perform well and acted tentative or were forcing “safe” answers, such as on guns.
Some key points which did not make the cheap, gossipy talking points headlines:
1. Obama’s plan to raise payroll caps is about the only hope of keeping Social Security viable. He answered Clinton’s reference to a special commission formed in the past, which recommended raising the payroll tax rate, which ended up hurting lower wage earners.
2. Obama emphasized that we need to use a pay-as-you-go approach to spending. And spending there will be to offer universal health care, education, infrastructure, alternative energy and global warming, etc. Clinton has not shown how her programs can be paid for if she is not willing to increase the payroll tax and rolling back tax cuts starting way up at $250,000 will provide funding for programs.
In short, the candidates need to do a better job of demonstrating how we will pay promises for their new muti-trillion spending programs. So far, Obama offers some sensible solutions that have received the backing of a number of economists.

Posted by: Chicago Andrew | April 17, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

JT, That is a silly statment. So Obama supporters went on line and voted in these polls. Do you really believe that working class people are dumb enough to believe you??? Oh, I forgot, of course you do. LOL

Posted by: svsolis | April 17, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

The whiners are at it again, saying poor Obama was being picked on. If he didn’t have anything to hide, he would have answered the questions! ABC did a great job, and brought out some important facts. I say if Obama can’t stand the heat, he should get out of the fire. Clinton’s life is an open book. Someone get this man out of the presidential race, please!

Posted by: thastar | April 17, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

I usually enjoy Charlie Gibson, but last nights questioning from both himself and George S left a lot to be desired. After 30 minutes watching I tuned out. It seemed like TABLOID politics and hosted by the National Enquirer.
Our country is in bad shape economically and militarily and I would have thought the questions would be related to more important issues like taxes, social security funding, health care etc etc. But it seems the media is preoccupied with Jeremiah Wright and sniper fire in Bosnia. Believe it or not Charlie, George et al, the American public knows about it and do not need to hear about a zillion times.
If this circus is what we have to look forward to going forward I am done with watching debates
Thanks for reading and hopefully ABC will get the point

Posted by: Bill | April 17, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Just a small sampling of what they will get for the general election.

Posted by: democraticprocess | April 17, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

ABC gets an F for Frivolous and Failure. Is it any wonder why more and more people are turning to cable and public tv/radio news and the internet?
George, Hillary and ABC, this has backfired on you. Most people I hear from are very disappointed with your poor representations. The message now out on the internet is down with ABC and mainstream media and go to public tv/radio and the INTERNET because you all cannot be trusted!!
Barack was obviously taken aback, but not knocked down as he continues to hope for the best in us and was hoping that just maybe you “get it”. His/our disappointment didn’t last very long as we have moved on.
You have insulted and offended us.

Posted by: Maiysha | April 17, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

The debate was a pretty sleazy affair, where was the hard hitting questions. I know George used to work for the Clinton’s, but does that give him the right to be so biased?? Shouldn’t he have been EXCLUDED from moderating if he was a former employee of one of the parties in the debate, just on it’s face appearance it seems wrong let alone in reality!!
If they are going to keep asking about Rev. Wright, why don’t they ask Clinton about the trouble she got into when she worked on the Nixon Impeachment case? It seems to me if she was willing to lie (about prepping the argument that was going to be used to denie Nixon an attorney) and steal (the documents that showed proof of her lying) and then storing the stolen property in her then office, she should be questioned quite hard about that! If she is willing to break the law then, why would she not be willing to break it now? We all know what the last Clinton administration looked like and I’m sure hers wouldn’t be any different judging by her previous law breaking habits.
If anyone here thinks that knowing someone who says something stupid is worse than lying about your past experience (she finally admitted it last night) or breaking the law you need your head examined. You will also deserve anything that she is capable of puling off on you, because you had enough pre-warning!!

Posted by: mike g | April 17, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Of course this so called DEBATE has destroyed OBAMA.
Maybe McCain and Hillay should run in each other party as VP- McCain-Hillary
and Hillay-McCain
This is a PLUS PLUS for both of them.

Posted by: GHM | April 17, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Watching the debate last night made me think that the media like ABC are now so caught in the culture of celebrities and reacting on gossip. Is what the Americans want from the news media. I have to admit that as a non American from the republic democratic of Congo who suffers a tragedy with the plane crash in Goma. We always look up to the Americans because they such a good hearted people however the negative politics of their politicians always overshadowed that good spirit. Thats why I can assure from someone who have lived in Belgium, USA and Canada to envision Barack Obama could end up to be the President of the United States and the Free World surpass the Clintons wanted to have a third term as McCain is willing to follow a Bush policies.

Posted by: Dylan | April 17, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

this is the first blog i’ve ever posted in my life. however,after the disgraceful coverage of the debate last night, i feel it needs to be done.
i believe the news is a service we all receive to inform us and keep us up to date on the issues. am i so out of touch with the american people’s desires, or are the issues abc cares about asinine? the first 45 minutes did absolutely nothing to inform me about the candidates. it actually only made me feel as if the producers were trying to make the candidates destroy each other and their party. some headlines read, “barack on the defensive” oh really? isn’t that the way he was supposed to react to the barrage of scandalous questions that have been repeated over and over again in the media. i’m bored with the repetition. be creative, abc, and ask some questions that actually effect us.
watching debates like that makes me lose hope in the american people. if that is all we care about, we’re doomed. we have so many issues to deal with, and all we are worried about is the symbolism of an american flag pin. don’t we care about the economy, our foreign policies, the environment, etc? i really hope so. this isn’t a matter of rebublicans verses democrats. people need to step back from their emotions and place their favorite candidate in the same position as last night. would you want a debate run like that? ask yourselves what you gained from those questions and answers. to each their own, but this election effects me and i want people to know the facts and make informed decisions – not decisions based on emotions or looks. i don’t want ignorance to get in the way of my future and my way of life.
i really hope that this is more of an abc, charlie gibson, and george stefanopolous debacle, and that we americans are smarter than that.

Posted by: kate | April 17, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

what happen to the real issues, like the economy, student loan, the war, and other important issues for the average Americans who work more than 16 hours a day.

Posted by: Jacobe | April 17, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

I have to agree with the folks that the debate did not get into important issue. Such as how to we hold the current administration accountable? How do we put safeguards in place so that this kind of war on democracy never happens again.
Obama meeting with folks that were against the last unjust War has nothing to do with what is really important in our lives.
The debate was the worst I have seen so far in this cycle. ABC should not be allowed to produce another.

Posted by: Robert | April 17, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I think ABC did a fantastic job and this is the first time any mainstream media outlet has held Obama accountable instead of giving him a free pass. The Obamapots are bitter because for once he gets the tough questions and he couldn’t handle it. I am an African-American women and I strongly feel Hillary has been treated unfairly. The Obamapots should call their guy “Saint Obama” because they feel he walks on water and can part the Red Sea. Great job, ABC!

Posted by: Lin | April 17, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

ABC, great , one way to make it even more sleezastic. Drop these two guys and see if Rush and Sean could do it a little edgier. As long as your going to make the Dems look as bad as possible, may as well go all the way for the ratings. McCain probably loved it, if he stayed up that late.
OK, I admit I switched to idol, more intelligence to be found there.
Seriously guys, please raise the bar, like they taught you in journalism 101

Posted by: LarryR | April 17, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

That display of juornalism was just as awful as your line of questioning. You need to go back to Journalism 101. i am ashamed and will not watch anything that your’e on any more George and charlie. Stick to the issues instead of backing a liar who knows nothing about the truth.

Posted by: Jan | April 17, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Obamabots are going crazy now-down with ABC, down with George S. He had worked for Clinton it seems. Well in that case rest of the media is working for Obama today; why complain on nonissues? As per these cult followers relevant questions were not asked and BO was targeted. If the MSM media had asked BO these questions earlier, Obama and his cult wouldn’t have been so much pained last night? Difficult questions do hurt. And BO is not stnading for local municipal elections but for the President of USA. So all these questions DO MATTER,as do the gas prices, jobs, economy and Iraq. So better come up with relevant answers or get the hell out of the race.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 17, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

what this time in race,finly tells the true,that your vote don’t count,the deligets decide who well be president,not you,

Posted by: ken | April 17, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Here is a statement from Bill O’Reilly from Fox. As far as I’m concerned enough is enough. This is a sad day in what could become the most historical election in recent history.
Bill O’Reilly said:
‘I don’t want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there’s evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels.
If that’s how she really feels – that is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever – then that’s legit. We’ll track it down.’

Posted by: Jack | April 17, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

But Clinton didn’t pardon William Ayers, who was their leader and is the person in question.
President Clinton is also NOT Sen Clinton. As Obama is not responsible for lets say John Kerry or Ted Kennedy’s actions in office, Sen Clintonis not repsonsible for Bill Clinton’s pardons.
Sen Obama’s candidacy is based entirely on judgement as he has basically NO experience. His judgement is what is in question here again.
Sen Clinton’s judgement did not pardon any Weather underground members, nor did President Clinton pardon Bill Ayers.

Posted by: s.b. | April 17, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

I agree that this was a pathetic excuse for a debate. The first 45 minutes focused on gossip and innuendo. Charles Gibson and George Stefanopolous moderated nothing at all. They appeared to be Clinton minions who hammered Obama repeatedly while Hillary looked on gleefully. I have never witnessed anything so lame on a major network in all of my life.
It was a real sham especially considering how most Americans are completely turned off by this type of vitriol. Thank you ABC for getting into the gutter and slinging **** with the rest of the fringe elements.
Charles Gibson quoting information that is out there on the Internet as if this alone makes it legitimate knowledge.

Posted by: Roger | April 17, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

I think ABC did a fantastic job and this is the first time any mainstream media outlet has held Obama accountable instead of giving him a free pass. The Obamapots are bitter because for once he gets the tough questions and he couldn’t handle it. I am an African-American women and I strongly feel Hillary has been treated unfairly. The Obamapots should call their guy “Saint Obama” because they feel he walks on water and can part the Red Sea. Great job, ABC!

Posted by: Linda | April 17, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

Loved the debate last night, George and Charlie did a great job trying to expose Obama as the fraud he really is. Go Hillary or McCain.

Posted by: Jacko | April 17, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

I can not believe Obama and his supporters are whining over this debate.20 plus debates and Hillary has gotten all the tough questions on personel issues. I didn’t see the outcry then. This is hupocritcal at best. Obama is the front runner. He has been given a free ride from day one and now the tough questions start and he cries foul. Lets not forget that on policy issue’s Obama was weak. This is an attempt by the Obama team to change the story from his loss. For you Obama bloggers, how dare you critize when most of you have focused on an organized destruction of Clinton and rarely talk issues on the blogs.
Clinton won the debate and Obama proved he is not prepared to be President. He lied to america last night, is this why we have the cover story today. Funny how bias is now an issue when the media has been a lot harder on Clinton for 15 months. Good job ABC.

Posted by: Don | April 17, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Shame on ABC, I’m very disappointed and
now I know why I shouldn’t bother watching you for news!!!!!

Posted by: Lottie Alston | April 17, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Charles Gibson asked Obama about why he doesn’t wear a lapel pin of the US flag (in an effort I suppose to flush out if he is in fact unpatriotic).
Well Charles, I have a response for you.
You want to know what’s unpatriotic:
Attending pro-NAFTA meetings under the Clinton administration to push help push through an unfair trade deal (at the expense of our good Pennsylvanian jobs), that’s unpatriotic!
Having a chief strategist that’s secretly working with a foreign government to push through yet another trade deal (CAFTA) while telling the american people that you OPPOSE CAFTA, that’s unpatriotic!
Having your husband (Bill Clinton) accept $800,000 from a foreign government (Columbia) to get that same trade deal pushed through congress, that’s unpatriotic!
Explaining why it’s permissible to court ELECTED (pledged) delegates –delegates representing the will of the people who have already (in good conscience) voted– in order to have them switch their pledge and in so doing, completely undermining our democratic process, that’s unpatriotic!
Visiting a right-wing (republican) newspaper (the Pittsburgh Tribune Review which is owned by a man (Richard Mellon Scaife) who sponsored an investigation into your (Mrs. Clinton) involvement in the death of deputy white house counsel Vince Foster) in order to have one of their trained minions *ASK* you if you would have left the rev. Wright’s church, that’s unpatriotic!
Proclaiming that the caucus voting process is undemocratic and doesn’t “make much sense” because your campaign’s poor organizational skills lost most of them, that’s unpatriotic!
Talking about southern white people and telling your husband to “screw em”, that’s unpatriotic!
And finally… attacking a fellow democrat (Obama, who refused to attack you last night because he truly cares about the Democratic party and ultimately our great nation) and instead praising your real adversary (John McCain) and in the process adopting the doctrine of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, THAT’S UNPATRIOTIC!!!
And yet… Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos did not see it fit or relevant to ask about even ONE of these things regarding a true lack of patriotism on your part??? That is truly astonishing!
I’m embarrassed and ashamed about what ABC news has become!
All I can say Hillary is that your blind and destructive ambition to win at all costs is what will ultimately be your undoing!

Posted by: Danny | April 17, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

Sorry I skiped the debate. I’ve been so put off by the Hillary Bashing and one-sided questions in the past debates that I skipped this one only to find out that finally someone stopped treating Obama with kid gloves and asked him some tough questions. From what I read, Obama couldn’t stand up to the test. I use to be an MSNBC watcher but they are so pro-Obama that you no longer can get an honest picture of what is going on. They are doing now what they accused Fox of doing four years ago — no longer a balanced story. For the past couple of months I’ve been channel surfing looking for both side of the story. Sure sorry I missed this debate — will have to watch it on the Net! Sounds like the Obama supporters can’t take it – what will they do in the Fall if he wins and the Republican machine starts up and he stumbles again????

Posted by: disenfrancised florida voter | April 17, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Kudos for ABC. They did a great job of taking on questions others would not ask. Good for you. Your supposed to be reporters, not personal secretaries of the candidates.

Posted by: Bob Vibian | April 17, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

FAR more important than mid-east policy or energy independence, for sure!

Posted by: Dave Anderson | April 17, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm

The first 30 minutes were about gossip? Rev. Wright story is gossip?
No, the first 30 minutes were questions that reveal character. And when your candidate has none, you get upset.
Sorry Your guy lost. Deal with it.

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Every pro Hillary blog LOVEd the debate last night, and conservatives were proud of ABC.
Kudos George & Charlie, you may have lost a few temper tantrum hissy fit whiners, but you gained a lot of mature fans.

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

If these questions last night were so silly and stupid and insignificant, then why did Barack do so poorly on them?
The mainstream media who is in the tank for Obama and treats him with kid gloves, does him NO favors because he becomes ill prepared.

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Can you imagine what the democrats would say if McCain was friendly and associated with an abortion clinic bomber who was UNAPOLOGETIC and said he wishes he had DONE MORE BOMBING? Oh yes, and one who NEVER served time for his crime? Just IMAGINE the outrage!!

Posted by: Jo | April 17, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

The people pardoned by Clinton had served time and apologized. Ayers said on 9/11, he wished they had planted more bombs. Hardly a repentent person. This was during the time he was supporting Obama personally for a seat in the Illinois legislature. He is a bad man who walks the streets today and is friends with obama as well as other dirty Chicago polics. Just what did Obama organize in Chicago anyway? Chidren there are being gunned down daily going to school. What about Obama’s own back yard. The church, crime, nefarious characters? Who is this smooth talker? What did he ever do for anyone other than himself?

Posted by: glennmcgahee | April 17, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

Danny – Are you stating, then, that BHO said those things? He said nothing of the sort. The reason he didn’t is because he was called out on the questions America has about his candidacy and his words. Whose trasnscript are you reading? Michelle’s?

Posted by: MGPGH | April 18, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Does the “Obama Girl” (the one that made headlines, but didn’t register to vote) that launched BHO into the mainstream sing the blues also? I’d like to hear her latest.

Posted by: MGPGH | April 18, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

I am so ashamed I ever watched that debate at all you guys set that man up I guess you owe Hillary a favor cause you sure the hell didnt ask her about Mark Penn, NAFTA etc… When Obama brought up her affliations why didnt you question that since you wanted to see a cat fight Oh no I mean what am I saying you where clearly on the Clinton side I didnt have to hear Sean Hannity told that jerk Saphstudid ### what the #### to say!!!!!!!!!! I thought I was watching ABC not FOX NEWS

Posted by: marie | April 18, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

Whinning how the hell do the Clinton camp complain about a whinner she whiner is the 1# WHINNER did you all forget New Hampshire, in one debate she complained about getting the first question, oh let’s not forget about the the media’s beat me up. WHINNING please she is the number 1 of them all these questions we all heard about I want to know how am going create jobs out here in AMERICA for my children, How is our they going to make college more affordable so I can send my kids how when I get ready to retire I dont have worry about my healthcare preime that what I want to know ans I’m SURE I’m NOT THE ONLY ONE and if you FOOLS think another republican is for you if your not RICH you are a dame FOOL!

Posted by: marie | April 18, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

JT- you know the poll is for obama because obama supporters rioted this website from anger.
Roger- These questions are not gossips. Rev Wright, Rezko and Ayer are not gossips. This man obama has no experience or anything else to prove that he’s qualified to be the president. So other factors have to be looked at. And so far, we have learned that his wife wasn’t proud of american, his spiritual mentor “god d america”, rezko in federal charges, Ayers bombed the pentagon and US bldg, Auchi (whom we’ll hear more about soon).
Moreover, obama is a very radical leftist. There have been enough evidence to prove this. If he wins the nomination, most of hillary supporters will vote for mccain because you will have a radical leftist vs a moderate conservative. and I would pick anything else before a radical of anything.

Posted by: iowa | April 18, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am

Poor excuse for a debate!! This was an
attack session, and I was sadden by the
lack of substance about what is most
important as an American. By the way
where is Hilary’s American flag pin?
Will either one of them wearing a pin
decrease gas prices and get us out of
this war? Let’s make a CHANGE.

Posted by: Sheila Williams, Decatur GA | April 18, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

I know George is part of the Clinton machine.Charles Gibson shocked me by his conduct last night.A done watching world news tonight.

Posted by: Kofi adawson | April 18, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

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