Bill Clinton Thinks Primary Process Will Have ‘Unusual Outcome’

The phony hypocrite should step aside to give the dems a sure win in November. The way it goes, Bho will join the typical dems Pres. nominee club – a loser.

Unusual outcome?
We are going elect a Republican as the nominee or what?
What in the heck is he talking about?

Thinking -
Have you been thinking?
or simply following Chairman Mao’s Revolution you Can Believe In!?

caucus are not counted in the popular vote if you are stating she has the popular vote it is like these people didn’t vote same as you are saying about Mi and Fl talking out of both sides of your dirty mouthes….Same ole crap go home

democracy embraces all in a fair and balanced way. play by the RULES and we’ll all get along!
unless you are saying that the demographics of florida and michigan voters is peculiar (as it is in wv and ky), the group, taken as a whole, doesn’t gain or lose anything by not counting florida’s and michigan’s votes cast in their state’s non-elections. the issue is the rules, and the rules alone.
48 states followed the rules and chose obama as the democratic nominee. at this juncture, 17 million people voted FOR obama.
Obama ’08!

“…she would accept the will of the Democrats and those who are legally eligible to participate in that process, that we would unify this party united do our best to win in November.” Cool then by the middle of next week she can start campaigning for Obama so we can get on with eliminating the McBush threat to our country.

Every time this man speaks, more Democrats disown him.
How can he purport to secure the nomination of the party for his wife when he constantly decries Democrats as ‘irresponsible’? Go home already, Clintons. Do yourselves and the country a favor- fade quietly into political obscurity.

Soldier — PLEASE speak for yourself. Geez, you guys’ tunnel vision is so boring it hurts. Unless you forgot this is supposed to be a democracy — you can try to ram a candidate down our throats if you want but millions of voters simply are not buying it. Period. Pelosi and company can threaten all they want but it’s up to the PEOPLE and the truth is, the PEOPLE are choosing between two democratic candidates and like it or not, but your boy ain’t winning everything as far as popular votes go. Maybe you should take you own advice and fade quietly into obscurity.

Just how is the DNC spliting the party. People have voted in the primaries and Obama is ahead in delegates.

Yes! The unusal outcome is that Hillary Clinton will be coronated, queen of the republic. Soon after she’ll be doing shots with John McCain while Bill entertains the interns. Yeeee haw.

What a waste of time, effort, and money (Obama is the inevitable nominee) just to appease Hillary! She is an attention addict; feverishly fighting to get just one more fix!
All-or-nothing Hillary supporters claim they will defect and vote for McCain (or not vote at all) because Hillary is an also-ran!
Is Hillary a loyal Democrat or the head of a cult?
Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!
http://klintons.com

See Soldier, that’s where you make your mistake. I AM a veteran though probably a bit older than you – Vietnam was my era. To me your statement is contradictory though understandable. I can’t tell if you are for or against the war but it really doesn’t matter since I doubt you were drafted — like I was. I even stayed past for a total of 10 years. You probably signed up which means you took your chances. I would wager that there are lots and lots of GIs who don’t support either Obama or McCain but don’t have the guts to say so in the military environment. I have tremendous respect for McCain and his sacrifice in the Navy. I certainly cannot say the same for Obama. I do not, however, have as much confidence in him in other areas of administration; nor for Obama. If you want to keep up with the macho crap, then go ahead but that’s all it really is. And thatnks, by the way, for your service. I really mean that. I don’t want you there either brother.

Ah, druggstohr, I gotcha. So, because you were DRAFTED and I VOLUNTEERED, your service was more valuable? Or perhaps it’s because Hollywood has romanticized those great, crazy 60′s and 70s protest movements, right? Well, the reason that you aren’t ‘able to tell if I am for or against the Iraq war’ is because you assume that by my enlistment, I am pro-war. I opposed the Iraq war on national security grounds. It was not the right place or time to fight a large-scale conflict. It had nothing to do with our national security. I joined because I want to make something good come out of a bad decision. Your candidate, MS. Clinton, showed the worst possible judgement in authorizing the decision-making on whether to attack Iraq to a president she now derides. And as for the ‘macho crap’ that you cite, you and your feminist buddies can scream and cry all you want about those ‘dirty, filthy, stupid pig men’ who support Obama. I will stand firmly on my expertise on national security and foreign policy (I earned a Master’s degree in national security before I enlisted) to tell you: your candidate’s judgement and threats to attack Iran have inspired most servicemembers (though, we’re just stupid volunteers, right, Druggstohr?) to vote for Obama over Clinton. Too bad, so sad- you are going to lose the election. If you want, scream and cry somewhere else- while real men and women of character fight to win a war that never should have been waged.
I’ve learned the hard way that stubborn, dogmatic, weak-minded, tunnel-visioned fools like yourself often pollute any and all semblence of decent political debate with your polemics. Now that I have lowered myself into competing in the same sewer, I am going to submit my resignation from this ‘conversation’ on the grounds that I am ashamed to have been lowered into this garbage discussion with you.
Nothing follows. Good day.

This is NOT about what Bill, Hillary or Barack accept, it is about what the DNC determines.

EVERY democrat and EVERY liberal are morons. BHO is running as a black man to get the nomination and then will attempt to turn into a white man in the general election. BHO is Teddy kennedy in black face.
John McCain will be the POTUS 44.

Regardless of any prior rules, the Michigan and Florida delegates should be seated and all votes counted in favor of Clinton.
We cannot have a black man in the presidency. For all we know, Jerimiah Wright would be put on the Supreme Court! Would you all like THAT?

As a fairly consistent conservative voter this year I, and five voters in the family, had had it and were going to vote Democrat. Looking at the way the Clintons are again ready to sell everything, themselves and the country included, we’ll vote Obama or McCain.

Like it or not, being drafted is a greater sacrifice than volunteering. Volunteers are not interrupting their lives, they are choosing that particular path for their own reasons.
Most of the men voting for Obama, the empty suit except for the hatred of this country and all white people, are misogynists. They would rather have a hate monger with no experience than any woman as their president. It was Obama who chose to take his name off the Michigan ballot. He didn’t have to do it. It was political inexperience that made that decision, just as it was political stupidity to get involved with Rezko and Wright and all the other crooks and hate mongers.

Marica: “…perhaps the Clintons would consider starting a third party.”
This is a great idea. It could be called the White American Democrat Party. Hard-working white Americans need a party that will fight for THEM and not for every single lazy black American ex-convict on crack.
Support the WAD Party.

I am from India, the largest democracy on the planet, with her own whims and twists.
One thing is however sure. The Primary Election system in America surely sucks.
Two major states, Florida and Michigan have voted, i.e. 2.3 million people went out and voted, and their votes do not count. It is like Kim Jong Il saying North Korea is a democracy. He can say, the rules say, that all the votes are for me and me alone.
If somebody’s vote is not to be counted, it is of those, who broke the rules, i.e. the Floridian Democratic Committee, not the registered and voting Democrats in Florida. If somebody feels like punishing Florida and Michigan, take away their superdelegates, but not the pledged delegates, because otherwise you are making USA into North Korea.
By the way, I find it amusing that both Indians and Americans can fall prey to the tunes of Pied Piper Politicians, like Barack Obama, who makes huge speeches, but has a very meagre CV to show for service to the country and acheivements in comparison to Clinton or McCain.
We are all suckers, aren’t we?

I hope she runs as an independent because this will never get resolved. Nancy Pelosi and all the others waiting for her to fall on her face need to be shown what she can do on her own. She has thousands and thousands of very loyal voters.
Hillary Please Run as an independent because if you don’t and Obama is the nominee McCain will win anyway, and either way you will be blamed so what’s the difference.

“Obama is not on the ballot in Michigan, therefore he obtains no votes. It’s his mistake.”
This is the most moronic statement I have heard from a Clintonista. His mistake? Following the rules as laid down by the party is “his mistake”??? Just what kind of “democracy” do you propose we build in this country? One where you can make up rules as you go, as the Clintons are doing? Gee, that sounds like someone else I know… let me think… oh yeah. W.

The only other Democrat besides Hillary Clinton I have seen so maligned and disrespected within their own party was Bobby Kennedy. I can tell you that the Democratic Party did not heal in ’68, and it will not heal in ’08, unless Senator Obama balances the ticket with a charismatic, conservative Democrat. I think an Obama/Clinton ticket would just not work. For those of us who supported Senator Clinton, the constant harping, guttersniping, and race baiting is just out of place in a primary. Some of you Obama People are brilliant and should be active participants in the machinery of American Politics for many years. However, the majority of you are not seasoned, you are rude, and need to rethink your attitude towards your fellow Democrats, and just who are you to be, publicly, so utterly tasteless in your commentary about a former Democratic President and First Lady. I wish Senator Obama had a full term served in the U.S. Senate. I wish he had some leadership experience in key committee assignments in the Senate. Senator Obama will need the support of all Democrates to win. It is time to cool the rhetoric.

For those go on about Obama’s lack of experience, wasn’t that what got us our current diaster president? “Oh, he’s got gubernatorial experience” “Oh, he’s got business experince.”
Thanks but no. I ‘ll take a fresh face over “experience” at this point.

Thanks to the Democrats for rescuing us conservative voters from an almost certain defeat in the next election.
If you had not fallen victim to your almost certain incestuous in-fighting, you probably would have won the White House since so many voters are angry with President Bush and his Right wing religious fanatics. However, true to form, by trying to serve too many docrine masters, you serve none.
Rock on McCain. 2 years of a Democratic controlled Congress with only worsening conditions to show for it, is a good preamble of what they would do in the White House. We have nothing to fear from this group. They are still fighting over Gore’s failure.

Hang in there Hillary- we don’t need this empty suit in our White House. Say no to him and his racist friends, terrorist connections, and his criminal associates. Although Obama spins a good tale- talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words and if you do some research on him and his rise in Chicago and his associations you can see clearly that he is not what he seems to be. Too bad there werent other qualified black candidates running- Colin Powell or Andrew Young would be more acceptable. The Obamas are racists and without Oprahs mone yand help they would not have gotten this far. No-Bama !!!

I believe that the “unusual outcome” Bill’s talking about is to have Hillary running as “independent” candidate against Mccain & Obama.
Who knows?

“Hillary is a MONSTER!” Her and her husband conveniently ignored the Rwandan Genocide while in office. They will continue to ignore Darfur. And America will continue to deny the veracity of the Armenian Genocide to appease Turks, who provide profit to the American military industrial complex by waging the newly begun genocide against the Kurds (which mainstream media is conveniently ignoring).
We need to take back America from these monsters who do nothing but appease special interests and the profits garnered in the military industrial complex. Foreign governments have sent Trojan horses in every inch of the beaurocracy, and through cover of business are controlling our destiny as a people.

The Clintons clearly want to cause a big ruckus so that they can claim the Dems have wronged them giving them a pretext to bolt the party and run as independents. I started out as a supporter of hers and so did my 6 year old grandson. But one day when I saw my grandson who lives in another city, I asked him if he still supported Hillary and he said no he was now for Obama. When I asked him why he matter of factly states “She cheats”. Need I say more.

(cont.) This is why we must choose Obama. We need to send a message to the world that yes indeed, genocide is the most heinous crime of all in humanity. And that whether it is economically or militarily inconvenient for us today, we will speak out against it loudly, so that we ourselves do not fall victim to genocidal forces in the future.

I believe that the “unusual outcome” Bill’s talking about is to have Hillary running as “independent” candidate against Mccain & Obama.
Who knows?
–Spyglass–
That would be so cool. This has already been a great year for political junkies, following the campaigns for all the candidates, both Dems and Reps.
But Hillary going independent would truly make it historic. And add Ron Paul in the final candidate mix and I will wet my shorts.

If both O. and C. said their differences were small compared to Republican’s, then I suggest to go with O. and C. ticket to win the Whitehouse. Then you just give O. a certain time to do his way, if it doesn’t work, let C. does hers. Am I too naive?

Does anyone know WHY John Edwards, Obama, et al, REMOVED their names from the Michigan primary ballot but Clinton DID NOT?
That seems to be an important factor in the logic that would be needed to make a decision on what to do with the Michigan votes now.

All I know is that the dems don’t pick winners. Hillary had the best chance the DNC chose Obama.
I am now backing McCain because he leans more toward the center than left wing radical Obama.
May the DNC be forever broke, because they sure can’t back the winners!

Obama and Hilliary VS. McCain and Rice.
OR
Obama and Richardson VS. McCain and Powell.
Now that would be an interesting election!

McCain and Powell is an absolutely unbeatable ticket. I would cross and vote for that.

“Hillary’s position has always been that if everybody gets to vote, and everybody’s vote is counted, she would accept the will of the Democrats”
This is simply not true. Hillary had no problem with canceling Michigan and Florida’s delegations back when it was decided, and when she was campaigning in early-voting states (Iowa and NH) that might have voted against her for speaking out in favor of Florida and Michigan. Her position changed as soon as (a) she knew that she was going to win both, and (b) she realized that she might actually need both to stay competitive in the nomination.

Both of the Clintons need to hurry up and get off the stage. Both of them seem so tired saying and doing the same old silly stuff!

Obama broke the rules campaigning in Florida by running a national tv ad that stopped running there the day of the primary. Obama took his name off of Michigan when he knew he was losing the state; nobody forced him to do this. A few months ago,Gov. Rendell and James Carville offered to raise money to pay for a second primary in both Florida and Michigan. The DNC agreed to this as long as both of the candidates agreed;Clinton agreed -Obama did not. Preventing votes from counting is nothing new to Obama;when he was in Illinois he also contested the votes of American citizens. The DNC should count every vote as a vote and seat the entire delegation.

I can’t imagine why I should support B. Obama in November just because he would be the Democratic nominee? Today’s Democratic Party is not the party I’ve voted for in the past (B. Obama’s supporters would laud this assertion); and Hillary’s endorsement of B. Obama won’t make one iota of a difference to me. You (B. Obama, etc.) don’t need Hillary supporters anyway.. Right? I feel as alienated as I did when the “New Republicans” came to power – I will not support B. Obama and I have every right not to.

If Obama had to be forced to resign from his church (by the mounting stupidity coming out of that church), he is not the person you want in the White House. Of course, Obama is saying that it’s to relieve people at the church, not to save his bid for the presidency. Just vote McCain.

The Clintons are just angry that WE THE PEOPLE have spoken. Their era is over. This is the face of the new electrified base of the democratic party. Give it up.

Jack the Hack said… “Where’s Monica to remind us that Bill Clinton is disbarred?”
That is a LIE. Bill Clinton is NOT, repeat NOT, currently disbarred.
You lose. Because you spread viscous LIES.

Headline: ‘Bill Clinton Thinks Primary Process Will Have Unusual Outcome’.
I looked this up and saw another reference. It said:
See: ‘Cheating and Manipulation at the Convention’
That was a satirical comment, of course. We just hope it doesn’t come true…

BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA CONTINUES TO BE ATHREAT TO NATIONAL MATURITY!
HILLARY IS WINNING THE BLUE AND SWING STATES!
OBAMA THE RED STATES, THAT WILL GO MCCAIN THIS FALL. CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!
IF OBAMA WINS THE NOMINATION HE WILL LOSE TO MCCAIN THIS FALL! CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON!
IF YOU VOTED OBAMA, YOU ARE HELPING THE RIGHT WING AGENDA IHOPE YOU CAN LIVE WITH YOUR SELF!

You Jomama supporters are a bunch of douchbags. Oh, wait, change that to hateful douchbags.

Hillary should run as an independent.
This way, she can get a small majority of white women. McCain will get the vast majority of white men, and Obama will get the young, the rich (and educated), and the blacks. And Obama would win.
Democracy is about tenacity, its about playing by the rules. What Clinton is doing is fundamentally undemocratic, even as she pretends its the opposite.

WOW! So Obama attended church every Sunday for 20 years. Amazing!

My prediction:
Hillary will drag this to the convention. Keeping Obama wrapped up so that he can’t campaign solely vs. McCain.
She will make a big stink at the convention to ruin Obama’s bid and then run independent.

After watching Harold Ickes on C-span, I have infomred the Clinton campaign to remove me from their lists. He is a disgrace, and if she supports him, then no way I’d vote for her.

What we know about Obama? He sit with Michelle and his kids in a church of hatred for 20 years.Black liberation thealogy , communist, and terrorist and hamas friends.He was campaining in Kenya for his muslim brother Odinga,who was killing christians in churches.Resco, Farakhan, Eyers ,James H Cone ,Sinclair, etc.Something is wrong with the democratic party for thinking that this guy is electable for president of the USA.If hussein Obama is the commender in chief how long before Odinga, and Iran and all 57 muslim states will have our American nuclear weapons?

Posted by: Georgia,.
“”CAN HILLARY CREATE A NEW POLITICAL PARTY TO REPRESENT THE WOMEN AND WORKING CLASS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION? MILLIONS OF VOTERS HOPE SO.
The DNC has made it clear that they have a nominee that represents blacks and college kids and that they don’t care about women and working class voters…”"
You are assuming she would be able to get EVERY single woman and working class voters – vote! Since that would never happen, she won’t be winning s00t anytime soon, get used to it and get over it.
Also, the party does not just INCLUDE: women, working class, Afr. Amer. and college kids. I would suggest until you realize this, you might want to refrain from wishful thinking or at least putting your foot in your mouth and sounding less than knowledgable.
“”The DNC has forced a split in the party – by its reckless disregard for women and working class voters”"
I beg to differ Georgia. From my perspective, from what I see, the spilt in the party has been caused by Clinton and anyone associated with her campaign, including her ignorant and child like supporters – not all of them are like that – but MOST of them sure are.
“”- thank God Hillary is there to represent them.”"
Excuse me for a second while I LMAO….If there is some holy figure alive today that will save has the best interest of the people ahead of his/herself, it sure in hell isn’t HRC. This woman only cares for herself and that’s it. This latest crap is a direct example of that fact.
Jungmin

I don’t understand how White Americans are considered to be the No. 1 race in the world, the standard of beauty and power and, yet; they are so insecure.
I advise every other race to attend college to see just how ordinary and below par White Americans perform. For example, Hannity is a college dropout who somehow managed to land a lucrative job and then speaks lowly of Obama and other African-Americans. Hannity only has a high school diploma! Gazam!
Just like George Bush, White Americans are C- students who are legends in their own minds.

Clinton ’08
Jeb Bush ’16
Chelsea Clinton ’24
Let the dynasties continue.

Actually, this has helped keep on open process on the front page of the paper for months – No matter how the outcome.
When it is all said and done, no one can say they were not given a fair shake!!
Our founding fathers would be proud!!

we will not let a few loud mouths hi-jack and control the democrat’s selection for our presidential nominee.
clinton and her supporters’ argument/threat is flawed on several points.
1st, a combined group of voters which includes all the subgroups voted for obama. that may mean that just like current demographics are changing the electoral map, the groups that support the democratic party may be changing, too.
2nd, you assume that everyone in the old statistically democratic voter groups will vote the same way in the general. won’t happen because the issues are weighted by each voter according to our own needs.
3rd, michigan and florida cannot be afforded the final say on who democrats select as the nominee because they are the two states that broke the rules — each attempting to play the power game. trying to achieve more clout while discounting/suppressing the vote of others (states) is exactly why michigan and florida are in the boat they’re in now.
hillary clinton’s supporters put womanhood above all other fair principles. they actually seem to believe that women, because of previous suffrages, are above all others versus equal to all others. i am a woman, so i feel their position is crazy. it is like a mother with a son and a daughter not loving both equally. democracy is not about who’s pushier, who can out-shout the loudest or who can be the most vindictive. it is about a collective unity on issues that matter to the whole group — the group as a whole.
democracy embraces ALL in a FAIR and balanced way. play by the RULES and we’ll all get along and we’ll all move forward!
unless you are saying that the demographics of florida and michigan voters is peculiar (as it is in wv and ky), then the group, taken as a whole, doesn’t gain or lose anything by not counting florida’s and michigan’s votes cast in their state’s non-elections. the issue is the rules, and the rules alone.
48 states followed the rules and chose obama as the democratic nominee. at this juncture, well over 17 million people voted FOR obama.
the democratic majority wants a change — a change that isn’t motivated by vindictiveness that will achieve nothing. changing the rules and accepting michigan and florida’s votes will not change the outcome of the democratic choice for our presidential nominee. it would, however, give the republicans more fodder to defeat obama in the general election. again, obama DID NOT MAKE THE RULES.
operation chaos was lost by the republicans today and the democrats won. we should all be proud of that.
obama ’08! YES WE CAN (AND WE WILL)!

I can’t trust someone who would give up his church and denounce his faith.
That’s not a very Christian thing to do. A Muslim would do it…

Shaefer,
last week you said that obama was wrong because he stayed and hillary said months ago that “he wouldn’t have been M-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y PASTOR”. her stated reason was this: “because in this country, we can’t choose our families, but we can choose our pastors.”
now obama has formally left the church, but he’s wrong for that, too. why don’t you save us some time and just tell us why you really hate this black candidate.
i really do not understand your holding obama’s feet to the fire on non-issues like the ones you’ve stated.
obama 08 and 12

At Dem Rules Committee meeting today:
Supporters of Clinton jeered the decision, loudly booing and hissing the members of the group as their faces were shown on a large screen in the room.
One woman, wearing a blue “Team Hillary” shirt, shoved a man in a suit and tie with a small Obama button on his lapel. Another woman in a white Clinton shirt hung her head in her hands.
“That was a crime!” a man shouted. “McCain in 08! McCain in 08!” a woman yelled from the back of the room. “No-bama! No-bama!”
LOL.
Operation CHAOS is actually working…

The new coalition = UNDEMOCRATIC PARTY
3rd World tactics – we might as well live in a communist country. Oh by the way, anybody research Mr. Obama and his communist connections?
The DNC are communists

Every Vote Should Count.
Obama took his name off ballot because of his usual bad judgement.
Hillary for the general election or defect to McCain.
Time to swing into action! Lets roll!

I find the Democrats amazing. The Clintons were the stars of the party, or at least that was what was protrayed. Now, they are ousted. That is just what they did to Joe Lieberman. Lieberman was on the Dems ticket as V.P., and then they ousted him. He ran as an Independent and won. That’s exactly what Hillary should do.

Ding Dong!The Witch is dead.
Which old Witch?
The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong!The Wicked Witch is dead.

Who was charged with perjury, and impeached? Not the media! Should we ever trust the words of someone who perjured at the highest level? Bill Clinton, you can no longer be believed!

I think you should be a registered Democrat to blog about a dem. subject. All these hateful blogs on here are repub inserting crap to encourage hard feeling against each other in our party. This crap about “if not Hill than McSame” doesn’t even make sense. Our country is falling apart under the repub “trickle down effect”policies, our military is being killed and mained because of a lies to get us into war and someone inserted CPowell name as VP–he sold this lie to the rest of the world for Bush. Please people, educated yourselves about whats going on. I supported Hill & Bill for years, even thru their worst days but she did vote for this war and didn’t even read the doc. she signed. Vote for Obama for a new direction.

let us pich a good fit for obama ticket.. i really like to see either Jim webb of virginia or obama/ kathleen (Kensas gov) she is smart, stong woman.

You can tell the mentality of the voters for Obama especially when they admit to voting for Bush Jr.
I wonder how many democrats voted for Bush Jr. and are now voting for Obama? I get the feeling a lot!
And now these very same people are saying don’t vote for McCain…ironic. Well I guess I won’t be listening to them, especially after knowing that!
Take your party unity stuff and put it were the sun don’t shine. If you think that was a terrible thing to say well to bad!
What happen today with the cheers and jeers is what the Democratic Party is all about. Anybody who is an elder (and I do mean elder) democrat knows what I am talking about. How the Obama people act is like Republicans act.
Well I am not a docile person, I take my politics seriously, I think of country before party and that it was not right what they did to those 2 states. You don’t punish the candidates and voters. It is an issue between the State Reps. and the party.
It doesn’t ceased to amaze me about some remarks about Bill that some people say. For a bad president why did he get elected to the second term. Jimmy Carter was bad and he didn’t get elected to the second term.
So as far as Bill Clinton is concerned he was the greatest Democratic President that has happen in the last 40 yrs.
Kennedy…Dead, Lydon Johnson so so, Jimmy Carter..Suked!!

Bottom line. Hillary Clinton ran a terrible campaign. She is now over $20 million in debt and had to replace many top aids and restructure her message and focus multiple times before she decided to become the Norma Rae of the poor white uneducated hardworking people.
Do we really trust someone to run the country who is in a constant state of denial? Isn’t that what George Bush has done? If she can’t run a campaign, I don’t trust her with the country! Obama has out smarted her in every way in running a successful drama free campaign, based on 50 states, no drama and thoughtful planning. That is how I want the country run. No DRAMA vote Obama!

Hillary Clinton is obsessed. There’s something bad wrong with that woman, and anybody that thinks that she will work for them or that she wants their votes to count, sure she wants your votes to count, but only if you are voting for her.If you think she cares for you, you are mistaken.
kathy

Obama is obviously the best choice, the most trustworthy, the most moral, the one who will be color blind and fair.
How can you people not see that. I saw a movie once…and the guy told the jury to close their eyes. he told them a story about a crime against a lil. black girl, then he told them to imagine that she was white.

It would be great if people understood what really happened in MI and FL instead of just regurgitating what they read on the internet.
The Democratic candidates signed a pledge to “not campaign or participate” in these states. NOT PARTICIPATE. Define participate and see if Hillary leaving her name on the ballot violated her pledge to the early-vote states. She did this in a calculated move, while 4 other Democratic candidates stuck by their pledge and REMOVED THEIR NAMES. Michigan congressional leaders had a chance to restore all 8 names to the ballot but did dropped the ball.
HRC was talking out one side of her mouth to the early-vote states, to try to secure their votes, while at the same time violating the pledge she took to support their status by leaving her name on the MI ballot – clearly violating the “not participating” part of that pledge. 1) She has clearly not “always” supported everyone having a vote, or she would have refused to sign that pledge in the first place. 2) She proves how manipulating and untrustworthy she is by violating that pledge by continuing to participate in MI’s primary.
Now, by seating half the delegation, the DNC has proven they are as untrustworthy as a whole as some of their candidates are individually, by establishing rules and setting penalties then kowtowing and reneging on that penalty. Kind of like a parent who punishes a child for bad behavior then not backing it up with real action, the DNC is no better than a bad parent who lets their unruly child run wild and abuse that parent’s authority. You think this has been a mess in 2008? Wait until 2012 when more states see there will be talk but no action in punishing states who don’t follow the rules.
*Proudly Independent*

Uh!! DNC created this mess and neither Obama or Clinton for that matter had directly objected to the rule. Now Clinton wants to portray itself as someone that is protecting voters? Give me a break any 6th grade can see through this one. The compromise that was actived by DNC is not perfect but is the closest thing to a fair settlement. I for one want to see the laws repected again in this country. For the record I don’t support neither candidate and I wish that at least one candidate would look for what is best for the nation as whole. We face to many problems and these candidates including Mccain a shadow of leaders that we need.

Dear Democrats, — Why is Hillary working for the Republicans? — Why are so many of you clamoring to get her into office no matter what the cost to our country? — Why do you not notice that she has changed her posture at every turn, and is treating you dishonestly, for her own benefit? — Why has she tried to destroy all the dignity of our electoral process? — Why are you helping her do this?

I voted for Bill Clinton twice and I now see him like an old boyfriend. I was saddened when he first went away, but now I wonder what it was I ever saw in him in the first place.
I am a 52 year working white woman (also a Navy vet). I voted for Obama in the primary and I will be voting for Obama in November.
Obama is the future; the Clintons are part of the highly partisan past. Enough said.

#1my eyes were not on the so-called priest at bho’s church -but on the menber of the chiir or people standing around him They were all cheering and clapping and agreeing with him;why are the churches being used as political rallies – so much for seperation of church and state. i think they shoul lose tax-free status;and i will also bet obama family re-joins church, the ties are too long and too close, ITHINK HE ENJOYS HEARING THAT AND HAS AGREED WITH IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.also, i dont think he has really gotten into any real issues and how to solve our national problems;as far as John mc Cain goes -I would have voted for him 8yrs ago ,but he is a drop =out coward who probably got a promise from bush to wait his turn ; now accepts his endorsement.and colin powell is a coward too, he knew the lies as did mclellan.give me a JIM WEBB ANY TIME OVER THEM ALL; GOD BLESS AND HELP AMERICA,WE THE PEOPLE NEED IT.

Such wishful thinking from the Clintons.

Clinton’s should shut up and go away.
Clinton’s should be history.
We want someone new and exciting and will bring change to this Country. My vote is for Barack Obama!!!!!!!!!

I would hope next time anyone (such as Hillary) is asked to sign papers regarding some going to primaries earlier they suppost to , they won’t complain when they are not winning the elections. Even if the states went to primaries they knew they would be penalized and shouldn’t grip about the outcome. PAY ATTENTION TO PARTY RULES.
may the best person wins the nomination whoever he is

Rules are no rules when there are double standards. The rule of New Hampshire should apply to Florida and Michigan.
The BO fanatics are crazy people and recently I have found the 20 years of BO’s attendance in his church under his bus. This is a guy of phony with fans of venoms.
The other day I have found lies of BO which did not include the gaffes that BO was so well-known of. He is out of touch and yet preached fantasy that could have printed the White House dark.
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 31, 2008 1:08:32 PM
OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES
1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.
33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.
52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!
53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.
54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! – LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS – You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!
60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning – LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS – He also seems to despise America.
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase – LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
62.) I am very Anti-Terror – LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS – Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto – guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.
63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis – LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST – Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion – LIAR – [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama – the day after sitting for the interview – filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey
65) I did NOT play the race card: – LIAR – [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here
66) I did not take money from oil companies: – LIAR – [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians.
Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates.
Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.
But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.
Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News
67) “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial,” Obama said at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. – LIAR – But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.
68) Look at my education record in Illinois – LIAR – In reality, Obama never really championed the local councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf. When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate-against protecting principals from unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what.
In the end, the resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn’t alleviate anyone’s concerns. Instead, it prolonged a turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since.
Much more so than we might believe.
1. Reports emanating from Africa allege his mother was in Kenya with his ARAB Kenyan (NOT Black Kenyan) father – this is clearly shown in Kenyan Govt. Registry documents which list the father as an Arab Kenyan – at a very late term of her pregnancy and was not allowed on a flight to return to HAWAII.
She gave birth to him in Kenya, immediately got on a plane and then registered him as being born in Hawaii.
2. He is NOT an African American at all but an Arab American and cannot claim African minority status, which by US Federal regulations require a person to have 1/8 (one eighth) of the minority blood (12%).
From his mother he has 50% white blood, from his father he has 43.25% Arab BLOOD and from his MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER he manages to hold onto 6.75% African or Black heritage blood.
Rise, Hillary, Rise ’08
A Proud, Black Hillary Supporter
Thanks LeeLee07 for taking the time to make a tremendous contribution.
Would any BO fanatic answer his posting?
Let BO the creep into the White House is a sin.