May 31, 2008 10:31am

Obama on McCain’s Troop Level Comment: ‘We’ve Seen This Movie Before’

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama called Sen. John McCain’s refusal to admit he misspoke about troop levels in Iraq "disturbing" and cast his actions as the sequel to the Bush administration’s refusal to admit their own mistakes.

"We’ve seen this movie before," Obama said at a town hall in Rapid City, S.D. "A leader who pursues the wrong course, who is unwilling to change course, who ignores the evidence. Now, just like George Bush, John McCain is refusing to admit that he’s made a mistake."

Obama explained to the crowd of 2,700 that McCain had said on Friday that the United States had drawn down to pre-surge troop levels in Iraq.

"John McCain was wrong, and he was wrong on the most important question that any commander-in-chief faces," Obama said. "We have not drawn down to pre-surge levels. We have about 20,000 more troops in Iraq today than we had before the surge. Even after we finish rotating more troops out later this summer, we’ll still have thousands more of Americans in Iraq than we had before the surge. Those are the facts."

Today marks Obama’s second day of criticisms of McCain over these remarks — but today Obama went further — saying that McCain’s refusal to admit a misstatement will be indicative of his presidency and a continuation of the Bush administration’s Patten.

"Now we all misspeak sometimes. I’ve done it myself. So on such a basic, factual error, you’d think that John McCain would just say, ‘Oh, I misspoke, I made a mistake’ — and then move on. But he couldn’t do that. Instead, he dug in," Obama said and connected it to Bush’s handling of the Iraq war, "We all know this president refused to admit that he made a mistake. That’s the leadership that we’ve had enough of over the last eight years."

The McCain campaign pushed back, defending McCain’s original remarks.

"Barack Obama is ignoring facts, he irresponsibly refuses credible evidence on the ground proving American troops have surged toward significant gains in Iraq and it proves he is just not ready to be commander-in-chief," McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds wrote. "For over 874 days, which includes the entirety of the ‘Surge’ strategy, Barack Obama has refused to visit Iraq, see the conditions on the ground, and meet with General Petraeus and it raises questions about whether his campaign is based on conceding defeat in Iraq, no matter what progress our troops make there."

Obama, within his remarks, spent most of his time focusing on the presumptive Republican nominee — sighting differences on the GI bill, and the gas tax holiday among the foreign policy criticisms. By comparison, Obama mentioned his opponent on the Democratic side, Sen. Hillary Clinton, only once. He told the audience she has run an outstanding campaign, and "She is going to be working on behalf of the Democratic Party as I will be."

User Comments

And just WHAT makes you the expert??? Obama, I’ll wait…
You have NO grounds to criticize him, or shall I say EXPERIENCE!!
I know, I know, “I voted against the war before I ‘could’ vote against the war”. Puhleeeze!!
You are just blowing in the breeze! You have no record other than “present”!
Hillary ’08 or ABB (Anybody But Barack)

Posted by: Krissy K | May 31, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

“A BHO voter is someone who reads “Audacity of Hope”. An anti-BHO voter is someone who understands BHO”
- paraphrasing Ronald Reagan -

Posted by: csquan | May 31, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

These two clowns sound like a comedy act. But they can’t decide who the straight man is, neither can I!!
Never vote for Obama, never.
Anyone but Barry BO! Anyone!

Posted by: HP Boston | May 31, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Obama is proving that he still can deliver the talking points presented to him by Moveon.org!!
And deliver he can, his Obamabats lap it up! (profusely huge eyeroll)
Hillary ’08 or ABB

Posted by: Krissy K | May 31, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am

LOSER CLINTON FANS AND “HARDBLOW” RIGHT WING KNUT JOBS. FIRST MCCAIN IS SENILE AND NOT INTELLIGENT BUSH IS PROBABLY SMARTER THAN HIM THATS A PRETTY GOOD COMPLIMENT. THE GUY GRADUATED AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS CLASS. ONLY IDEOLOGS WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST AS DUMB.

Posted by: THINK FORYOURSELF | May 31, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

KRISSY K “SWEETY” GO COOK ME MY DINNER AND GET OF THE COMPUTER “SWEETY”

Posted by: THINK FORYOURSELF | May 31, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Obama will have the senile McCain drooling in the corner by the general. He’s opening up a can of whoop-ass on McCain.

Posted by: Don | May 31, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

McCain defends himself by veering off in a different direction, just like Bush. Never asnwer the question asked, spin it into something irrelevant. More of the same, vote McCain.

Posted by: JR | May 31, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Obama simply puts everyone down. He is negative all the time.
He panders to everyone with vague ‘change’ and ‘hope’ but has no real way to accomplish any of it nor has any experience in doing it.
He was the poor choice by democrats, but now they have to lie in their bed.
Mc Cain 08

Posted by: cgeast | May 31, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Rather take McCain’s bait over Iraq, Obama should visit Afganistan, you know, the country we were supposed be invade so that we could find Bin Laden. Does anyone remember him or 9-11? He was why we went to war, remember?

Posted by: JR | May 31, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Obama said arabic speakers are being moved away from Iraq to Afghanistan. Then he said pastun speakers are being moved to iraq from afghanistsan.
He never admitted his mistake.

Posted by: david | May 31, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Arabic translators are needed to communicate in Afghanistan. It might not be what most people there speak, but the people we need to catch do!

Posted by: Cory | May 31, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

John McCain quotes pre-Iraq War and during Iraq War:
“Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies.” [CNN, 9/29/02]
“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
“But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
“This is a mission accomplished. They know how much influence Saddam Hussein had on the Iraqi people, how much more difficult it made to get their cooperation.” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]
“I do think that progress is being made in a lot of Iraq. Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. If I thought we weren’t making progress, I’d be despondent.” [The Hill, 12/8/05]
Even McWar has become less confident of our ability to WIN in Iraq over the years…but he will keep us there anyway.

Posted by: our only hope | May 31, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Great Grandma speaks:
As one who will be 82 tomorrow and has held her nose and voted so many times, and who is an indepenent but avidly against the war and the Bushies, I say you are all talking like a bunch of hot headed children. Learn your history. If Bush had had any idea what happens when a country is invadded for ANY reason, noble seeming or simply aggressive, he could not have waged that idiotic war. But stop getting hysterical you people!!!!Learn what has happened in the future; learn the state of the world, and then vote with as much wisdom (and a grain of hope) as you can. I have no patience with all this juvenile mud slinging–yes, even John McCain is acting like a pouty child!!! i could not vote for Hillary simply because she is female, nor could I vote against Barack simmply because he is black. I listen, I observe and ultimately I decide but weithout all this idiocy you are all engaged in!!!!!I keep hoping for intelligent comments, but they are very few and far between!

Posted by: June B. Cater | May 31, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

The numbers are the numbers. Did he lie, mispeak or did he not know? McSame does not address the fact of what he said.
Is it 135 or 150?

Posted by: john | May 31, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

PENN AND TELLER FOR PRES AND VICE!!!!!

Posted by: dgei | May 31, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

It still amazes me that any of you would vote for someone that has TOLD you they want to raise your taxes. I’m not responsible for YOUR health care or anyone elses. The ONLY responsibility of our Federal Government, is for our protection against foreign forces and Al Queda is a foreign force.

Posted by: Mark | May 31, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

What does Obama stand for? What is Obama going to change and how? Does Obama now were Iraq is and how much progress is really being made?
I challenge anyone to answer these questions without talking about some else.
Obama is just a suit and tie and a mouth!

Posted by: rdotx | May 31, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

The hypocrisy doesn’t get any clearer than this.
So now Obama is actually criticizing someone else for not owning up to a mistake.
Dear Senator Obama, we are still waiting for you to admit it was a mistake to say that you would meet Iran without any preconditions (you have since flip flopped, or as you call it “refined”, your position to saying there would be “preparations”).
I really try to like Obama, but this man just stinks of fatal flaws – arrogance, hypocrisy, deceit, empty rhetoric.

Posted by: JA | May 31, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Exactly what does Obama now about anything since all he has done as a senator is run for President? He is clueless to foreign affairs. He seems to run with a bad crowd. Oprah dumped him. His wife is angry and has no class. But he sure can give a moving speech. To bad, NOT ENOUGH QUALIFICATIONS.
McCain 2008, Change you can trust.

Posted by: rdotx | May 31, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Oh, I love it!!! I can’t wait until you people have to salute the American flag and salute President Barack Obama. I can’t wait to see the look on your faces when you wake up and have to live in a country where you hate and despise the President.
Oh, it will be a beautiful day! And it’s coming…
God Bless America

Posted by: Akinyele | May 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Obama you do not know how many states in the Union. Just shut up

Posted by: Tony | May 31, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

JA: Right on!

Posted by: rdotx | May 31, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Fools for Hillary,
What are you doing here whining when you could be in D.C., catarwauling for and comiserating with all of your ignorant compatriots (free and white, with IQs slightly over 21), who think that Democratic rules and by-laws were made to be shouted down?

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Posted by: Akinyele | May 31, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

June B. Cater,
I doubt that you’re still on, but you’re amazing. Bless you.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

SAINT OBAMA just quit his racist church.
Michelle is Next. He will throw her under the bus as soon as the whitey video comes up.

Posted by: Tony | May 31, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

I agree with you, Obama is right on point here. It is beyond disgusting how McCain has no clue whatsoever what is going on in Iraq. What desctruction Bush has not caused to this country and this world, McCain will finish.

Posted by: suburbandad81 | May 31, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

csquan,
A “BHO voter” is someone who READS. You should try it some time. It might give you a rudimentary understanding of how government and political factions actually function, as opposed to taking Hillary or McCain’s word for it.
- paraphrasing an illiterate boob

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Hit him Barack. And don’t let off the the ground. He wants to use our troops as propaganda for his political gain. Forrest “Gump” McCain will need to go back and study his facts. Stick it to that opportunist John McCain. Us patriots won’t stand for that. Make him cry uncle. He will trust me, lol.

Posted by: Dex | May 31, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Krissy K,
Move on dot org . . . didn’t Hillary Clinton used to love them . . . until they called her out for voting for the war in Iraq . . . which has now taken the lives of 4,000 of our men and women?
W+JM+HRC = -4,000
(for those who don’t understand algebraic equations: the war that dubya pushed through with the help of McCain and Clinton has cost this country 4000 young lives)
Numbers don’t lie.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

I’m confused on Obama’s stance on Iraq pullout.At first, wasn’t he campaigning on pulling all troops out immediantly. Then he morphed into a reactionary force that could go back in and then he morphed AGAIN to not sure when they may be pulled out? I would like a obama supporter to explain these flip flops. I doubt if I will get any takers.

Posted by: dracula | May 31, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

“BHO = Chamberlain = Appeasement.
He has no mandate to speak on this subject.”
csquan,
You’re clearly another hack like Kevin James who likes big words like “appeasement” and “mandate,” and just like him, you neither have an understanding of the historical significance of Neville Chamberlain, and you’ve misused both of words.
W+JM+HRC+SHEEPLIKECSQUAN = -4,000

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Akinyele writes: “I can’t wait to see the look on your faces when you wake up and have to live in a country where you hate and despise the President.”
What do you mean, “wait”?

Posted by: Aaron | May 31, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

AnarchyJack, What was the historical significance of Neville Chamberlin?

Posted by: dracula | May 31, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Still waiting on an Obama supporter to explain Obama’s constantly changing position on Iraq trop withdrawal?

Posted by: Dracula | May 31, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

dracula,
Your statements are correct, though I fail to understand how this winds up making him look like a flip-flopper. He did talk about pulling troops out immediately, but the evidence then suggested that it would be a repeat of Saigon – one of the bloodiest military retreats in our history. And yes, he has talked about having reactionary forces nearby in case they are needed.
Either you don’t have a point or it isn’t a very good one. The next President, whoever HE may be, will inherit a war that was started with no exit strategy. So Obama will do his best to make a silk purse from a sow’s ear. He will draw down the troops and keep them close in case the Iraqis get into trouble with each other or with Iran.
The surges sure as hell never worked.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

AnarchyJack–
You are bugging me dude–
Why don’t you go to a frackin’ Iron Maiden concert or something and leave us Clinton lovers alone.

Posted by: BLAH BLAH | May 31, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Drac,
Neville Chamberlain went to Germany to negotiate with Hilter. He wound up away a large portion of Czechoslovakia. You could call it appeasement, if you wanted, because it certainly was that. But it was a half-way measure that neither satisfied the the Germans (who wanted ALL of Czechoslovakia AND EUROPE) nor did it satisfy the French alarmists, who became one of Hitler’s first targets after WWII began in ’39
Talking to your enemies concededes nothing, my friend. It is neither a half-way measure, nor is it appeasement. Bush’s father did as much with Gorbechev, as did Ronald Reagan. Kennedy did the same with Khruzchev.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Interesting, AnarkyJack just blasted someone and accused him of not “understanding the historical significance of Neville Chamberlin”and then when he was asked to explain, total silence, nothing, nada. It’s just an opinion Jack, yours is neither right or wrong, don’t blast someone and then hide. Also, where are all the Obama people to justify Obama’s shifting stance on troop pullout from Iraq?

Posted by: Dracula | May 31, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

BLAH BLAH,
Oh, I’ll have a blast at the show, dude. Am I to assume that we know each other? Leave a comment on my page if we’re friends from online. I didn’t come here to anger my friends.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Drac,
I hide from no one. I have a life – as you can see if you read my last entry on the thread.
And I answered your question, Drac – and accurately. Give it a rest, neophyte.

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Where’d you go, Drac?
Are you hiding?

Posted by: AnarchyJack | May 31, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Just go to show the lack of intelligence McCain has compared to Obama. Obama is too smart and just way out of his league. Obama will fix what the Republican monkeys has broken. Only fools that don’t know what America stands for will vote for McCain. Who during captivity betrayed his country in order to get medical treatment from the North Vietmamese.

Posted by: Jordan | May 31, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Hiding , not a chance. I hate it when I am writing something and I accidently deleted the message and I don’t know how I did it.So, please bear with me and I will be back shortly.

Posted by: Dracula | May 31, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Obama is so smart he can’t speak without a teleprompter to prompt him when he should open his mouth and insert his foot. His empty words are an accurate reflection of an empty man. And he DID say he would meet with America’s enemies without preconditions, unlike Kennedy, Reagan, Bush, Sr., et al. who all at least had the sense God gave a goose.
Go John McCain, America’s HERO. NOBAMA ’08

Posted by: FlaLady | May 31, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Jack , two points. You say that “Talking to your enemies concedes nothing.” Doesn’t it depend on who is doing the talking for you. A case can be made that a weak Chamberlin/Hitler talk lead to a world war and tens of millions dead. However, history has never accused Kennedy/ Reagan of being weak negotiators in their talks with Gorbechev/Khruzchev.
I think everyone concedes that Mccain is more in the mold of Kennedy/ Reagan rather then Chamberlin, but what is Obama, Kennedy/Reagan or Chamberlin. What foreign policy stands has Obama made to convince us that he is the former rather then the later.
As for his flip flops on Iraq,you suggest that he is being realistic on what happens if he pulls the troops out. Yet Obama savages Mccain for Saying that we may be in Iraq for a 100 years. Why is it not hypocritical of Obama to criticize Mccain as a war lover yet he is essentially saying that we will stay as long as he thinks it is necessary. I wonder if the far left realizes that Obama is now saying to them that he is not going to honor the pledge that he made to them to end the war now, not later?

Posted by: Dracula | May 31, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

McCain is a fool and anyone voting for him is a bigger FOOL

Posted by: t.v.eddie | May 31, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

May 15th, on Nova-M radio, Robert Wexler (D-FL) said “GENERALS STARTED FINALLY LISTENING TO OBAMA’S SUGGESTIONS”
when he argued that Musharraf could not openly give permission for targeted strikes for fear of being assassinated
Here is what he was talking about –
1. August 2007 debate: Obama makes vocal case for striking terrorists inside Pakistan
“Let me make this clear: There are terrorists holed up in those mountains, that murdered 3,000 Americans,” said Obama during the counterterrorism address. “If we have actionable intelligence about high-valued terrorist targets and if President Musharraf will not act, we will.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3458915
2. McCain, Hillary, Dodd, Biden all criticize him saying we should not be working against Musharraf our only advocate in the region
3. December 2007: Bhutto assassinated by terrorists
4. The Washington Post reported that in late January, a CIA aircraft fired on several buildings in the Pakistani town of Mir Ali, killing a senior al-Qaida commander and several others. The paper, quoting anonymous U.S. officials, said that the action was done without seeking approval from the Pakistani government.
5. Mid February ’08, Musharraf voted out of power; US has spent $11B trying to prop. up Musharraf
6. Late February, Senator Dodd endorsed Obama
Obama’s 2002 NO-HOLDS-BARRED Iraq speech took real courage. It risked his run-for-the-Senate WHILE the wise-men/women of Congress took comfort in voting as group to support the Iraq war resolution.
http://www.digg.com/politics/Full_text_of_Barack_Obama_s_2002_Speech_Against_the_Iraq_War

Posted by: Young Atheart | May 31, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

Republicans are just angry or should i say more shocked that a Democratic Candidate is actually responding to the Republican Fearmongering unlike Gore and Kerry. How in the world can any of you be confident that McCain has any shot whatsoever in winning this election. Any fool that places a bet on him is just someone ready to lose their money. First of all he has an incumbent president with an approval rating of 30% which he more than half the time sides with. Then you have McCain who wholeheartedly supports an unpopular war claiming that he could see us there in 100 years and doesnt even know the troop levels there. All of this when National Defense and Foreign Policy is supposed to be his Forte. On top of that you have a candidate in McCain that people will have the fear of him being too old for the position. Then add on the side that McCain has constant problems with top staffers getting in trouble along with falling into the same traps that he tried to set for Obama with Pastor John Hagee. McCains chance was in 2000 where he let Bush rip him to shreds in SC. Get a clue. Unless he picks a popular governor such as Charlie Crist in Florida where there are plenty of electoral votes up for grabs, McCain has no chance in the General Election this fall.

Posted by: 30middle | May 31, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

I know who I believe when they say something – Obama. It has never been Bush or anyone who works for him. I know I will never believe a word McCain says. He has flip-flopped so many times on every issue. McWar Monger with the yellow teeth is not smart enough or mentally capable of being president. He is old, mean, and stubborn and so much like Bush it is horrible to imagine.

Posted by: Vicki | May 31, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

A president should raise taxes if the economic situation demands and lower them likewise. These republican stupids who have only one mantra “lower my taxes” should be called on their ignoratnt rhetoric and they should not be taxed and also no government benefits for them. If they drive on the roads that are built by the government then they should be charged accordingly … for every damn pound they put on the road. Also they should not be included in public schools, they should not be protected by military, they should kicked out of national parks, they should not be given jobs in corporations which recieve tax breaks and subsidies from the government and if they even have one complaint against the SEC which monitors the stock market, they should be put in Jail.

Posted by: Venkat | May 31, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

I do hate and despise the president right now. So I don’t think I will be unhappy when there is a smart, nice looking, worthy president named Barrack Obama. I look forward to having an honest, decent, intelligent president after all the years of Bush and his deadly lies.

Posted by: Vicki | May 31, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

McCain needs Liberman with him everywhere he goes to whisper answers in his ears. McCain is too old to handle this job.

Posted by: Obamania08 | May 31, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I am proud of Obama. Unlike other democrats in the past, Obama is answering in kind. Republicans never win an argument. They just bully and scare their opponents away. Not this year, baby.

Posted by: Obamania08 | May 31, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

Posted by: REPO | May 31, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Whoever we vote for is a risk. I am willing to place my risk on Obama. McCain is too clearly a negative in my book.

Posted by: ChayaFradle | May 31, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

I thought the SURGE was supposed to make Baghdad quiet and safe!

Posted by: Charlie Richmond | June 1, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am

I’m sick of Obama.
He doesn’t do things earnestly, he only criticizes others, like Hillary, Mccain.
I hate the person who only TRY to pick others’ short comings, without doing correct things by himself to SHOW he is better.
I work in the corporation, I don’t like the person who ONLY picks others’ fault while reviewing others’ work; but when he is asked to do things, he can not do any.

Posted by: golfgirlusa | June 1, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Hearing Obama criticize McCain about anything is like listening to a third grader try to correct a college professor. Good speeches do not trump good experience.

Posted by: K.F.. Miller | June 1, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Good Speeches? Flowery Rhetoric? That silver-tongued Bush must have really set the Educational standard. Would you truly rather have another 4 years of a so-called “straight shooter” who by his own admission doesn’t know much about economics, and wants to drag out the war at any cost? Don’t you remember the “speeches” when Iraq was all about W.M.D.? Oh, but then the story was America got rid of an evil tyrant. Oh, nevermind, the war is actually spreading Democracy. Today McCain has taken up Bush’s chant: We can’t leave because we can’t leave. Give me a President who has the intelligence to make good speeches over perpetuating stale lies.

Posted by: Center One | June 1, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

JUNIOR, I MEAN OBAMA, TALKS LIKE HE IS PLAYING WITH A TOY ARMY SET.
HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE CALLED A MEETING OF HIS AFGANISTAN SENETE OVERSIGHT COMMITEE? HE NEVER HAS!
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME OBAMA WENT TO IRAQ TO TO SEE THE FACTS FOR HIMSELF? OVER TWO YEARS AGO!
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME HE TOOK THE TIME TO TALK TO GENERAL PATREAUS ABOUT WHATS REALLY GOING ON IN IRAQ? HE HAS’NT!
YET HE WOULD PERSUME TO SAY HE KNOWS BETTER THAN ALL THE COMBINED EXPERIENCE AND WISDOM OF OUR BEST LEADERS AND THE FACTS.
WHAT A COMPLETE IDIOT!
PERHAPS IF HE HAS HIS DESIRED UNCONDITIONAL FACE TO FACE MEETING WITH THE TERRORIST AND ROUGUE LEADERS OF THE WORLD, THEY WILL SURELY SEE HIS VIEWPOINT, AND STOP THEIR OPPOSITION AND DETERMINATION TO DESTORY THE “ISRAEL PIGS’, WESTERNERS AND NON WESTERNERS WHO REFUSE TO IMBRACE THIER RADICALISM.
SOME MY CALL IT AUDASITY, I CALL IT IGNORANCE OF ANYONE WHO WOULD MAKE SUCH UNINFORMED, NAIVE ASSERTIONS.
WHAT A MORON!!!
THE REALITY IS……WE ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE IN 08′
WE MUST HAVE KNOWLEDGE, INTEGRITY, AND EXPERIENCE.
JOHN MCCAIN 08′

Posted by: AWAKE | June 1, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

I doubt these campaigns are really useful; each side spends its time tearing down the other guy, trying to take someone with an outstanding record and make them ordinary (or worse).
Hillary has been overly critized but has been out campaigned and is now out of bounds with the way she’s spun the numbers. She can’t let go.
McCain v Obama should be a good race – if we can stay focused on meaningful issues.

Posted by: darklight | June 2, 2008, 12:27 am 12:27 am

MCCAIN WANT TO BE PRESIDENT NO MATTER WHO RUNS AGAINST YOU?
” I WILL NOT DRAFT ”
I LOVE HILLARY, BUT FRANKLY THESE FOUR WORDS WOULD PRETTY MUCH END THIS CONTEST.
NO DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE COULD OVERCOME THESE FOUR WORDS. PERHAPS IN THE END THIS MAY BE WHAT IS BEST FOR THIS NATION ANYWAY. HILLARY CAN WORK ON SOMETHING ELSE FOR THE NEXT FOUR…BELIEVE ME THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF THINGS FOR HER TO DO….SHE CAN BE A FORCE BIGGER THAN THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW!!!
THE REBEL LEADER!!!!

Posted by: JOHN CANTINALLE | June 2, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

I heard this on the Rush Limbaugh radio program and it seems to fit. Since the liberals are trying so hard to link Bush and McCain, then let’s link Obama with his nearest liberal predecessor, the one,thank God, and only Jimmy Carter. Obama has been voted the most liberal Senator, he likes to know extremely liberal people like Black liberation preachers, unrepentent home grown terrorist bombers, who actually exploded bombs that mained people, and then that catholic priest. Remember, before the political fire got too hot, these guys were part of his political advisory team. Obama and Jimmy now thats two of a kind.

Posted by: Dracula | June 2, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

obama go for it!

Posted by: slauz | June 6, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

whether black or white let the brillant one win the eletion,mccain is too dull to be american presindent he will american like bush for the fact that he was jailed during the war of coast that was then not american should not pay him because of what he did to them to avoid what is going on with bush now because he is confused

Posted by: austin ijara eloka | November 1, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

mccain should not be saying what he dont know

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