Of course that’s what it is. No exPresident of any party would phrase it that way…before an election.
But no ex President has lost so much campaigning for one side…
he became an attack dog for his wife…like he should have…and pushed the envelope too far and got called on it.
As he has with opponents many times before.
I think most people weren’t accusing him of being a racist… and he is hurt by those who call him one…he’s not.
He is though an opportunist who pushed the envelope to play hardball and made a stupid misjudgement.
Now he is pissed for getting called on that and the bologne that went with it in a stressed over extended primary.
It is no longer his time.
It is Hill’s time. He needs to take the ego and realize that no President has ever made the convention for a party and all it’s members about some ex-President’s legacy over the parties issues and the American’s that are effected by those issues.
Bill you graduated…years ago…
Your wife did not get elected class President and hanging out at graduation dissing the person that did…doesn’t help anyone…especially your wife whose time has come to be one of the new leadership of our country.
You graduated.
Posted by: dl | August 26, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Sen Obama needs Bill Clinton more than he wants to admit. No one can rally the troops like Bill Clinton and he is the only successful former president alive who can say that Obama is ready or not. Sen Obama needs to get on a stage with Bill Clinton if he wants to unite the party.
Why can’t you think President Clinton was talking about about McCain.
He is speaking the truth. Do you think Obama can deliver what he promises. Get real America.
Posted by: tom | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
oy
Posted by: rst | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
One of the problems is that President Clinton is truthful.
Having someone tell you that you MUST vote for this candidate because he is a Democrat candidate when you know for certain that he will fail America—so you vote for him anyway? Only people that cannot think would do that. I will either vote for McCain or not at all. Obama cannot close the deal, Obama is inexperienced, Obama has baggage that has not been cleared up in the Federal Courts.
Posted by: Mike | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
I heard no jab, why try to start something? Bill Clinton has been unfairly insulted by Obama. Here is one of our greatest recent presidents, who has done so much for all minorities, in fact, Obama would likely not be in his positin had it not been for the work of Bill Clinton. HOw does Obama say thank you? he turns the race card on him. Nothing infuriates me more than calls of racism when there are none. I was so furious about this. Here is a great former president, now having to resort to defending himself and say he is not racist, all because of one horrible and opportunistic man Obama. Obama just has no integrity.
That statement had absolutely nothing to do with Obama. What on earth is wrong with the MSM? Especially ABC?
It seems that you guys in the media just thrive on imagining abd creating negative stuff all the time. You create narratives that dont just exist.
Bill Clinton was making a valid point that transcends US politics. As a student of world politics, one of the fundamental shortcomings of democracy world over is the fact that there is truely no way we can know whether a candidate will deliver on his/her promise when elected.
Its a global issue and it truely requires some cerebral debate. Thats all the man was talking about. Goodness. I am sick of you guys especially the ABC crew that seems to see nothing positive in any situation.
And to add to my previous post. It is pity that a lot of you folks are completely enslaved by the mis-interpretations and mis-representations of the MSM.
Sometimes, it is good to just take a step back and think independently instead of just following the lead of the MSM hook line and sinker.
The MSm could be very misleading
If Obama wanted to unify the Democratic party, he would have chosen Clinton as his VP. Instead, he chose to be petty and divisive. I am no longer a Democrat.
Posted by: Jane | August 26, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Bill Clinton’s premise is wrong. It’s impossible for a president to “do nothing.” Every president is faced with choices and must choose. It’s either a good choice or a bad choice. Bush made a lot of bad choices and appointed even more people who made terrible choices (Rumsfeld, Brown, Gonzales). I wish he could have done nothing — I wish that were an option. Instead we got 8 miserable years where Bush destroyed our economy, plunged us into a senseless meaningless war and destroyed our credibility in the world.
The real choice is: who will make the best decisions for our country. Obama opposed the war from the beginning, grew up in a poor family and worked his way up to where he is now, and makes a lot of sense in his positions. McCain supported the disastrous war, knows nothing about economics and doesn’t understand the issues of common Americans.
The choice is clear to me.
did someone just post that the problem is that Bill Clinton is “truthful”
He may have been a good president…but that is not the word anyone would use to describe Bill.
Why are we wrestling with an ex president…
this should be about Hillary and the new leadership.
I do not remember Carter saying bologne about Clinton when he ran
he would never
or Reagan about Bush sr.
or any ex President saying something about a candidate of the same party.
because you don’t.
this is all about ego…
so Obama praise Bill for all the good he did… ignore his insults or his innuendo…
and remember… if we lose… everyone gets blamed by half the party.
and considering you won your home state in this election by such a large election you should end up back in the senate.
Posted by: dl | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Bill Clinton is NO LONGER relivant!!! Hilliary would have won if he could have shut his mouth!!! Her campaign blew it for her, but he was as he always was, and still is, disgraceful. He just refuses to stop hurting her AND himself. He needs a shrink, the man is beyond troubled, and has been for a LONG time. When people go so long without effective treatment and are enabled for this long you get psychopaths, like Bill, Bush, Cheney, etc., etc.
No matter what Bill Clinton says tomorrow night it can’t take back things he has said to the public. They won’t forget anytime soon how he has betrayed the black people of America and how bias he has become since before and after his wife lost the nomination. You have discredited yourself for all of America to see.
Shame on you Bill Clinton.
You think we have short memories?
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Jan | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I don’t know if BillyBob was refering to BHO or not. I do know that he’s still pissed about Hillary’s loss and the accusations of racism.
Posted by: Don | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
He’s talking about X and Y, what the big deal? Why do the “netroots” get so excited about these inconsequential perceived slights? Maybe he was talking about McCain.
Posted by: Marie | August 26, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Ughhh What? I don’t hear one reference to Obama. Another hack job by the media.
Posted by: I don't hear it AT ALL | August 26, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Obama really needs to apologize to Bill, otherwise this bickering won’t end. Since Bill is much older, Obama looks really petty when they fight. It’s like fighting with a grandparent. Oh, and Obama also doesn’t look good when he fights with women.
Marie, the “nutroots” get excited about these slights because they have the maturity of a bunch of 10 year olds.
I don’t vote for who the 10 year olds want.
Posted by: Jo | August 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I am voting for Obama this year and if he happens to lose I am voting for anyone other then Clinton in 2012. The Clintons have been an embarrasment to the democratic party, and by their actions it is obvious they care only about themselves, and do not care about the party or the country.
Posted by: jim | August 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
If Obama wanted to unify the Democratic party, he would have chosen Clinton as his VP. Instead, he chose to be petty and divisive. I am no longer a Democrat.
Posted by: Jane
Who cares! If Obama had chosen Hillary he would surely lose because Obama supporters did not want her or they would have voted for her! Besides, with her you get Bill waving that nasty finger at use and lying through his teeth!
Hillary is rooting for McCain. It gives her a great shot in 2012.
Posted by: Don | August 26, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Isn’t it ironic… The press corps is so caught up in the idea that they are somehow having a mass love affair with Obama, that they stumble over each other in their attemts to make up for it. This has been going on since late february. Maybe it is time for another look in the mirror?
Bad media aside, I know what I saw last night when Michelle spoke: The next First Lady of the United States of America.
The man can’t say anything without someone trying to make it into an insult to Obama. It’s not the Clinton’s who need to “get over it,” it’s the mass media who keep trying to stir the pot. I’m sick and tired of Obama’s media guardian angels trying to demonize the Clintons constantly, which is just one of the multitude of reasons I will never vote for Sen. Obama. Another one is that he has been a do nothing Senator from my home state, so I don’t have a lot of faith in him as President.
Posted by: dwc | August 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Bill is a sore looser like the rest of the hillary clones who can’t just get over the fact that they run a bad campaign and lost the nomination to the better and well organized person.
Worse of all the clintons seem to relish a certain sense of being better than Obama because they are not in the spot light now but put hillary up for president now and you will hear worse things about them than Obama.
I sure hope Obama does not loose this election but even if he does, does hillary think she has any chance in 2012? Hell not. Mcbush will do everything right in his first term and get the second term. Hillary is a looser today and will always be a looser. As for Bill if he is not going to help Obama, he should step aside, drop to the bottomless pit and just shut up. Obama does not need anymore of the drama they have created since he clinched the nomination.
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Of course that’s what it is. No exPresident of any party would phrase it that way…before an election.
But no ex President has lost so much campaigning for one side…
he became an attack dog for his wife…like he should have…and pushed the envelope too far and got called on it.
As he has with opponents many times before.
I think most people weren’t accusing him of being a racist… and he is hurt by those who call him one…he’s not.
He is though an opportunist who pushed the envelope to play hardball and made a stupid misjudgement.
Now he is pissed for getting called on that and the bologne that went with it in a stressed over extended primary.
It is no longer his time.
It is Hill’s time. He needs to take the ego and realize that no President has ever made the convention for a party and all it’s members about some ex-President’s legacy over the parties issues and the American’s that are effected by those issues.
Bill you graduated…years ago…
Your wife did not get elected class President and hanging out at graduation dissing the person that did…doesn’t help anyone…especially your wife whose time has come to be one of the new leadership of our country.
You graduated.
Posted by: dl | August 26, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Sen Obama needs Bill Clinton more than he wants to admit. No one can rally the troops like Bill Clinton and he is the only successful former president alive who can say that Obama is ready or not. Sen Obama needs to get on a stage with Bill Clinton if he wants to unite the party.
Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | August 26, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Why can’t you think President Clinton was talking about about McCain.
He is speaking the truth. Do you think Obama can deliver what he promises. Get real America.
Posted by: tom | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
oy
Posted by: rst | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
One of the problems is that President Clinton is truthful.
Having someone tell you that you MUST vote for this candidate because he is a Democrat candidate when you know for certain that he will fail America—so you vote for him anyway? Only people that cannot think would do that. I will either vote for McCain or not at all. Obama cannot close the deal, Obama is inexperienced, Obama has baggage that has not been cleared up in the Federal Courts.
Posted by: Mike | August 26, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
I heard no jab, why try to start something? Bill Clinton has been unfairly insulted by Obama. Here is one of our greatest recent presidents, who has done so much for all minorities, in fact, Obama would likely not be in his positin had it not been for the work of Bill Clinton. HOw does Obama say thank you? he turns the race card on him. Nothing infuriates me more than calls of racism when there are none. I was so furious about this. Here is a great former president, now having to resort to defending himself and say he is not racist, all because of one horrible and opportunistic man Obama. Obama just has no integrity.
Posted by: decentAmerican | August 26, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
That statement had absolutely nothing to do with Obama. What on earth is wrong with the MSM? Especially ABC?
It seems that you guys in the media just thrive on imagining abd creating negative stuff all the time. You create narratives that dont just exist.
Bill Clinton was making a valid point that transcends US politics. As a student of world politics, one of the fundamental shortcomings of democracy world over is the fact that there is truely no way we can know whether a candidate will deliver on his/her promise when elected.
Its a global issue and it truely requires some cerebral debate. Thats all the man was talking about. Goodness. I am sick of you guys especially the ABC crew that seems to see nothing positive in any situation.
Posted by: Rolland | August 26, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
And to add to my previous post. It is pity that a lot of you folks are completely enslaved by the mis-interpretations and mis-representations of the MSM.
Sometimes, it is good to just take a step back and think independently instead of just following the lead of the MSM hook line and sinker.
The MSm could be very misleading
Posted by: Rolland | August 26, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
If Obama wanted to unify the Democratic party, he would have chosen Clinton as his VP. Instead, he chose to be petty and divisive. I am no longer a Democrat.
Posted by: Jane | August 26, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Bill Clinton’s premise is wrong. It’s impossible for a president to “do nothing.” Every president is faced with choices and must choose. It’s either a good choice or a bad choice. Bush made a lot of bad choices and appointed even more people who made terrible choices (Rumsfeld, Brown, Gonzales). I wish he could have done nothing — I wish that were an option. Instead we got 8 miserable years where Bush destroyed our economy, plunged us into a senseless meaningless war and destroyed our credibility in the world.
The real choice is: who will make the best decisions for our country. Obama opposed the war from the beginning, grew up in a poor family and worked his way up to where he is now, and makes a lot of sense in his positions. McCain supported the disastrous war, knows nothing about economics and doesn’t understand the issues of common Americans.
The choice is clear to me.
Posted by: seth | August 26, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
did someone just post that the problem is that Bill Clinton is “truthful”
He may have been a good president…but that is not the word anyone would use to describe Bill.
Why are we wrestling with an ex president…
this should be about Hillary and the new leadership.
I do not remember Carter saying bologne about Clinton when he ran
he would never
or Reagan about Bush sr.
or any ex President saying something about a candidate of the same party.
because you don’t.
this is all about ego…
so Obama praise Bill for all the good he did… ignore his insults or his innuendo…
and remember… if we lose… everyone gets blamed by half the party.
and considering you won your home state in this election by such a large election you should end up back in the senate.
Posted by: dl | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Bill Clinton is NO LONGER relivant!!! Hilliary would have won if he could have shut his mouth!!! Her campaign blew it for her, but he was as he always was, and still is, disgraceful. He just refuses to stop hurting her AND himself. He needs a shrink, the man is beyond troubled, and has been for a LONG time. When people go so long without effective treatment and are enabled for this long you get psychopaths, like Bill, Bush, Cheney, etc., etc.
Posted by: argh! | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
No matter what Bill Clinton says tomorrow night it can’t take back things he has said to the public. They won’t forget anytime soon how he has betrayed the black people of America and how bias he has become since before and after his wife lost the nomination. You have discredited yourself for all of America to see.
Shame on you Bill Clinton.
You think we have short memories?
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: Jan | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I don’t know if BillyBob was refering to BHO or not. I do know that he’s still pissed about Hillary’s loss and the accusations of racism.
Posted by: Don | August 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
He’s talking about X and Y, what the big deal? Why do the “netroots” get so excited about these inconsequential perceived slights? Maybe he was talking about McCain.
Posted by: Marie | August 26, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Ughhh What? I don’t hear one reference to Obama. Another hack job by the media.
Posted by: I don't hear it AT ALL | August 26, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Hilly-Billy
He has 2 daughters!
Posted by: roxanne | August 26, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Obama really needs to apologize to Bill, otherwise this bickering won’t end. Since Bill is much older, Obama looks really petty when they fight. It’s like fighting with a grandparent. Oh, and Obama also doesn’t look good when he fights with women.
Posted by: Beth | August 26, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
This is why Democrats love Bill Clinton, and Hillary. They’re the real deal, pragmatic, realistic, and totally fantastic. ROLL CALL!
Posted by: jbattersonforHill | August 26, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Why is Obama fighting with women and the elderly? What a loser.
Posted by: Mavis | August 26, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Marie, the “nutroots” get excited about these slights because they have the maturity of a bunch of 10 year olds.
I don’t vote for who the 10 year olds want.
Posted by: Jo | August 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I am voting for Obama this year and if he happens to lose I am voting for anyone other then Clinton in 2012. The Clintons have been an embarrasment to the democratic party, and by their actions it is obvious they care only about themselves, and do not care about the party or the country.
Posted by: jim | August 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
If Obama wanted to unify the Democratic party, he would have chosen Clinton as his VP. Instead, he chose to be petty and divisive. I am no longer a Democrat.
Posted by: Jane
Who cares! If Obama had chosen Hillary he would surely lose because Obama supporters did not want her or they would have voted for her! Besides, with her you get Bill waving that nasty finger at use and lying through his teeth!
Posted by: roxanne | August 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Umm…Obama’s name is never mentioned a single time.
Posted by: Debra | August 26, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Hillary is rooting for McCain. It gives her a great shot in 2012.
Posted by: Don | August 26, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Isn’t it ironic… The press corps is so caught up in the idea that they are somehow having a mass love affair with Obama, that they stumble over each other in their attemts to make up for it. This has been going on since late february. Maybe it is time for another look in the mirror?
Bad media aside, I know what I saw last night when Michelle spoke: The next First Lady of the United States of America.
Posted by: El_Pajaro | August 26, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
The man can’t say anything without someone trying to make it into an insult to Obama. It’s not the Clinton’s who need to “get over it,” it’s the mass media who keep trying to stir the pot. I’m sick and tired of Obama’s media guardian angels trying to demonize the Clintons constantly, which is just one of the multitude of reasons I will never vote for Sen. Obama. Another one is that he has been a do nothing Senator from my home state, so I don’t have a lot of faith in him as President.
Posted by: dwc | August 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Bill is a sore looser like the rest of the hillary clones who can’t just get over the fact that they run a bad campaign and lost the nomination to the better and well organized person.
Worse of all the clintons seem to relish a certain sense of being better than Obama because they are not in the spot light now but put hillary up for president now and you will hear worse things about them than Obama.
I sure hope Obama does not loose this election but even if he does, does hillary think she has any chance in 2012? Hell not. Mcbush will do everything right in his first term and get the second term. Hillary is a looser today and will always be a looser. As for Bill if he is not going to help Obama, he should step aside, drop to the bottomless pit and just shut up. Obama does not need anymore of the drama they have created since he clinched the nomination.
Posted by: Eben | August 26, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm