Obama Team: McCain’s Debating Skills Unparalleled
ABC’s John Berman from Oxford, Mississippi:
I have to warn you, I can barely write a complete sentence, and I am hideously ugly. Surprised? Alarmed? Flat-out scared? Well, what I have just done is set expectations, a key part of the political dance that happens before every big debate. You see, if you were to meet me now, and it turned out that I am merely an average writer, and somewhat homely instead of horrific, it would be something of a personal victory.
It is this reasoning that helps explain why reporters received an e-mail from the Obama campaign, touting the debating skills of John McCain, and deriding that of their own candidate. "According to the pundits, McCain’s debating skills are unparalleled," the memo says, "and the expectations for him tonight are sky-high. "
Now, I promise, there are not many Obama staffers who think that McCain’s skills are unparalleled. But what they just did is make you think that McCain is Cicero. And if for some reason, he is merely good, not but not historic, it would somehow be disappointing.
This is normal from campaigns; set the bar high for your opponent. What I never remember seeing is a campaign going out of its way to slam its own candidate. In this same Obama campaign memo are a number of clips quite critical of Obama, including this humdinger from an Associated Press article: "For a man known as a powerful speaker, Obama has rarely wowed people in political debates. He can come across as lifeless, aloof and windy."
When was the last time you heard a campaign point out that people find their very own candidate "lifeless, aloof, and windy?" It is kind if catchy, they could put it on their posters. "Obama: Change you Can Believe In…because he is Lifeless, Aloof and Windy."

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McCain doesn’t have answers. He’s going to the debate to blame Obama for everything–just like McCain’s previously done on the campaign trail. McCain will ignore his 26 years in Washington, will forget all the times he’s told Obama he hasn’t been around enough, and then will lay this entire crisis at Obama’s (and the Dems) feet. This is despite the fact that the GOP controlled the White House and Congress for years and never put in any regulations that would prevent this meltdown! America–watch out for the okey-doke!!
Posted by: beck | September 26, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Obama spent 10 days to write Acceptance speech
Obama spent 3 days to prepare for this debate
Obama team is trying to spin before their master forgets what he memorized
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
They are about equally matched in debate skill – Obama has talent and McCain has over a quarter century on the Senate floor (and until he was recently muzzled by advisers, very frequently talking with the press on his Straightalk Express).
This debate should be McCain’s based on the subject matter of foreign policy, where he is experienced. If it turns to economics, Obama will have the advantaged as his academic mind will serve him well.
Posted by: jhw539 | September 26, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
adam: “Obama spent 10 days to write Acceptance speech”
Yes, and that is quite an achievement. Compare to McCain, who never writes his own speeches but is accomplished at reading and ad libbing “my friends.”
Posted by: jhw539 | September 26, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I think it is genius, if he does good, then he makes mccain look like a fool. If he does bad then they can fall back and say “well we said McCain is a better debater.”
Posted by: make it known | September 26, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
LOL.
McCain’s stunt pulled Obama away from his debate cramming sessions to sit with Bush and Reid and Pelosi and the cameras inside the Beltway, and added the mind games of an on-again, off-again event.
Now the Obama handlers are probably on their cell phones calling their mamas looking for tips on how to pray…
Posted by: Jon Do | September 26, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
One of the country’s top pollsters was in Rochester on Thursday and suggested that the November presidential election will end in an electoral landslide, even though the candidates are running close.
“Essentially the election is at equilibrium,” said John Zogby, president of Zogby International. “This election will stay close until the end.”
As Expected: THIS WILL BE A LANDSLIDE
POTUS OBAMA – IT’S INEVITABLE
Posted by: Nat Turner | September 26, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
McCain will, then he won’t, then can’t, now can, boy this guy sure gets on ALL sides of an issue, don’t like what he says today, tomorrow will be different. He really gives new meaning to being dishonest.
Posted by: JR | September 26, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
How can any serious person back McCain anymore. He makes decision making ability is reckless and his policies are totally outdated.
Posted by: dm2008 | September 26, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
ABC simply caters to liberals. I find this quite sad. This article suggests that Obama can set standards for how Mc Cain needs to do?
Yet ABC runs this as some kind of GOSPEL worthy of public consumption?
The Obama camp gets to frame how everything works? And ABC gleefully runs off and reports it like good surrogates.
How dissapointing for the media to look this foolish.
Posted by: infoseeking | September 26, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
How can one set a bar for Palin???
Posted by: Libratine | September 26, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
= Obama spent 10 days to write Acceptance Speech =
How dare you to mock Obama when it took God 7 days ?
BTW, you’re a racist since you do not vote for Obama . It’s David Axelrod’s hand prints all over Obama’s speech. Obama and the tele-prompter simply do the rest.
Posted by: Dod-Countrywide-the-fraud. | September 26, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Adam, I hardly think Obama has memorized his way through this campaign. He is intelligent and thinks on his feet.
Posted by: two-cats | September 26, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Now lets get real.
Obama, a junior senator, who destroyed his senate record, who had no foreign experience until he use the presidential nomination process to go over seas, who refused many many many times to dabte is —- what did you say?????
McCain has a past record that Obama cannot even reach let alone in a debate.
My reaction to your headline and article is simply: HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA. People will be laughing all the way to the pols because Obama will perform so badly.
PhD
Posted by: versailles | September 26, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
McCain is a good debater but can he hide his flip flop and lies.
Posted by: decipher | September 26, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
McCain debating skills are phenomenal. Any performance less than that should be considered a failure.
Posted by: Jack Kovacs | September 26, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Show me the email!
Posted by: Allan J Krueger | September 26, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Senator Barack Obama will have to convince the American people that he is someone who is stable, thoughtful, and can make clear, solid decisions in time of crisis. The McCain brand image has allowed John McCain to make one faux pas after another and walk away completely unscathed by his disturbingly erratic behavior. One must seriously question that at age 72 does John McCain have the clear decision making capability to respond to economic crisis quickly and decisively, even in a Presidential debate?
Posted by: usarfc2008 | September 26, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
So John – Is the rest of the MSM buying the “hype down”? Frankly, I find it demeaning both to Obama and to those of us who’ve been following this race for a year and a half. His camp should set the bar high for both candidates and have confidence that their guy will get his message across to the American people.
Posted by: mhh | September 26, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I can’t wait to watch this fumbling jackass Obama “WOW US” with his ahhhs, ummms, stutters, and, you see’s during tonight’s debate. Can you imagine an emergency call at three in the morning and he has to respond w/o a teleprompter?
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Well, it takes what it takes to write a excellent speech.
Posted by: speedy | September 26, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Mc Cain if by far the better speaker, debater and in general the better man for the countries Top Job. Listen and weep No-Bama supporters!!!
Posted by: juju | September 26, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Wow. I am impressed. You actually wrote an article that almost made you sound like a non-partisan journalism instead of a commentator
Posted by: StuartTN | September 26, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
jhw539
Obama took 10 days to write a speech, you call that an achivement
what a joke ??????????????????????????
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
What happened to the promise of no deal no debate? What did the 2 senators achieve by going to Washington?
The maverick is now very tentative and fickle.
Posted by: Peach | September 26, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
usarfc2008: Come on people, enough of the age thing, it’s getting old. Looks to me that he gets around pretty well.
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
[How can one set a bar for Palin???
Posted by: Libratine | Sep 26, 2008 4:01:00 PM]
Just leave it on the ground- she’ll trip over it :)
Posted by: LMAO! | September 26, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Two-cats says
I hardly think Obama has memorized his way through this campaign. He is intelligent and thinks on his feet.
Obama without teleprompter is like
UH UH HA HA NANA
CHANGE
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
a recent NEWSWEEK that covered the RNC showed Cindy and Palin reading from a teleprompter to such detail it said ‘say ‘thanks everyone’ then ‘hug those around you’
pathetic
Posted by: Alan Fine | September 26, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
This is sad. Put all of the pressure on McCain to do well and let Hussein Obama ride again.Lets turn the table and put the pressure on Obama. Let him tell us what he has done in the senate for the last 2YRS. Let him tell us what he has done for the state of Illinois that is broke since he was elected.”I voted present”.Joe better be ready to president if he gets elected so someone can make a decision on something.
Posted by: ronnie | September 26, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Dod-Countrywide-the-fraud
You are right, I am racist, because I am not voting for Lord Obama.
I migratd from India and I am American Citizen. I have never seen such corrupt politician protected by almost all the media.
for Example , Obama arranged 100K to his buddy to setup a gardern, No Garden, all gone
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
McCain…let’s be real. First signs of damentia, you guys can put him in WH if you want to. Look at Bush, his is covered up by drinking all the time.
Posted by: Penny | September 26, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
ANYONE who says that McCain is a better debator is an outright liar. HILARIOUS!
McCain has as much personality when speaking as a block of moldy cheese. How many times on the campaign trail did he repeat verbatum that pathetic line “I will take this pen, I will make them famous, and you will know about them” he repeated that so many times yet he had to look down at his notes as he said it. LAME-O
Posted by: Jerry | September 26, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
decipher: Come on man, OFLIP FLOP leads in that catagorie by a mile.
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Has ABCnews.com become the official Obama Campaign “spin machine”?????
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | September 26, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
uh I am uh um tired of um uh you uh uh talking about uh um my uh um stuturing uh um I uh am trying to uh um get off my uh um bad uh um habit of um uh lies.
Posted by: BHO | September 26, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Alan Fine
CNN tried to show all the teleprompters during republican COnvention, they never showed teleprompter during democrats.
Do you know why, Because lot of Liberal MAerican thinks Obama speaks from his heart and CNN does not want to change that.
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
How to Debate McBush….
Unleash Hell………….But dont
give anyone a stroke…..lol
The Landside………………….?
You do not hear the pollsters talk about
Wireless anything computers cellphones
ETC. I have not touched a wired phone in
years. yep could be a BIG Surprise on
Election Night….
Posted by: Anita Yova | September 26, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
McCain can’t keep pulling the same political stunt. In 2000, McCain backed out of one of the presidential debates with George Bush, and cancelled at the last minute. He used some poor excuse.
In 2008, the poor excuse McCain tried to use is “Country First”. But it didn’t work this time. It seems that when the polls are against him, candidate McCain has a history of cutting & running from debates before the American voters. So for McCain, it’s cut & run, and “POLLS FIRST”.
Posted by: I-Vote | September 26, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Posted by: infoseeking | Sep 26, 2008 4:00:33 PM “The Obama camp gets to frame how everything works?”
And it was not too long ago that the McCain camp was trying to “define” Obama. Hypocrites!
Posted by: Mike | September 26, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Get ready to hear.. My Friends, Reform, change Washington, POW, Vietnam, prison, Hanoi…. Oh GOD.
Posted by: Phil | September 26, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Other than Obama can read from Telepromter
What is he good at??????????
I know, Making radical friends
Posted by: adam | September 26, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
versailles – McCain has a record of 26 years of doing nothing. zip. Some things he DID do was consistently vote against increasing benefits to the VETS after the war started. Some Hero. 80% of vets support Obama. Obama has already won this election. deal with it!
Posted by: Brad Ledger | September 26, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
This isn’t even newsworthy except to again point out how manipulative Obama and his staffers are.
Posted by: Susan | September 26, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Alan Fine: And your so gullible, of course you believe all that crap.
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
LOL Phil you are so right. I am SICK of hearing McCain say ‘My friends’ in that insincere voice. Disgusting. I wonder how many times he will answer with his POW history when he doesn’t know the answer. He is going to state “after 26 years in Washington, I am going to CHANGE IT!” if even 1 person believes that line of bull, they need to be committed to a mental hospital. Even Cindy doesnt buy it.
Posted by: Brad Ledger | September 26, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
My Friend, I believe it is Obama that is indecisive on the issues. McCain is going to win the debate hands down BUT you probably won’t hear that in the Messiah Media.
Posted by: georgia | September 26, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
McCaine lurches from one decision to the next in a kneejerk way. How can anyone think that this man is competent to run the United States. He is unpredictable illtempered and will be dangerous with the military at his disposal.
He hs accomplished nothing on his own merits but has ride his family and wife along with a incident resulting from his own incompetence to where he is today.
What is so ironic is that John Kerry who was in the middle of action when he gallantly fought in vietnam was ridiculed by the republicans but McCaine whose incompetence git him shot down is considered some big hero.
He really had no choice but to stay in that jail for it was the last chance to save face for the lackluster soldier he was.
Posted by: mal | September 26, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I wouldn’t say that he is amazing, but I expect McCain to win most of the debates.
McCain is much better at simplifying his ideas than Obama. Obama gets hung up on details and will give much longer, more complicated responses. He thinks about the question and then answers it. John McCain *knows* what he will say.
Obama has the advantage of being a better speaker, however. I believe that’s why they refuse to do more debates. They know that McCain is the better debater, so they stick with speaking, his strong suit.
An example: Someone asked them in a debate what they would do about evil in the world.
McCain said: Defeat it.
Obama went into a much longer answer about how we should stop it, but about how complicated it was and that we shouldn’t accidentally punish good people.
They applauded McCain much more because his answer was simple and isolated. He didn’t try to bring in other real world factors or change the nature of the question.
Posted by: GoldFinch | September 26, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | Sep 26, 2008 4:20:22 PM “Has ABCnews.com become the official Obama Campaign “spin machine”?????”
Yes and rightly so. McCain already has FOX news and CNN in his pockets.
Posted by: Mike | September 26, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Brad Ledger…please read what you said..i=n the same sentence, you tell us MCcain did nothing in 26 years..then u tell us what he did to the VETS…do you see why you look like and idiot to intelligent people?
McCain has a record of 26 years of doing nothing. zip. Some things he DID do was consistently vote against increasing benefits to the VETS after the war started. Some Hero. 80% of vets support Obama. Obama has already won this election. deal with it!
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | September 26, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Uh, if the bail-out-thingy is not done, why did McCain leave to go to the debate? Didn’t he say he would stay, even if it cost him politically?
Posted by: Joe | September 26, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
MCCAIN-
-Technologically challenged – cannot even read from a teleprompter!
- ‘Word’ challenged -needs Bush speech writers to write his speeches!
-Economically challenged – ‘the fundamentals are strong’
-Popularity challenged – had to bring in an Incoherent bumbling right hand like Palin
26 years in Washington – he did CHALLENGE A few things, BUT NOTHING GOT DONE!!!- 26 years CHALLENGED!!!!
Posted by: tkforchange | September 26, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Here is a quick summary of McCain’s debate tonight:
“My Friends” “Change” “I will take this pen and make them famous!” “My Friends” “Change” “I will take this pen and make them famous!”"My Friends” “Change” “I will take this pen and make them famous!”
in an endless loop.
Posted by: Brad Ledger | September 26, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Payback is a beach, aint it Repubs?
HA HA HA, McMaverick stunt backfired…
And Palin? Ahh, yeah. If I was a repub, I would be sooo mad at the McMaverick.
I’m giddy, thanks John!
Posted by: Sen. Widestance | September 26, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Guys, you seem not to get the point:
We don’t need another war, the US should start investing on peace and on turning the tide of anger against it, and Americans should again not be ashamed to travel abroad (oh, and they should actually be able to AFFORD it too)!!!
Even with such a LOW DOLLAR and companies like GM cannot boost their exports…wonder why?
America is NOT competitive again. THE WORLD needs a strong USA, we need another Kennedy with vision and dreams.
How about a President who puts saving Earth at PRIORITY? Imagine the jobs this will create in the technologically, enterpreneurially advanced USA?
GOOD LUCK OBAMA!!
Posted by: Alex from Europe | September 26, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I’m looking forward to a serious debate on the issues, without “gotchas”. Let each candidate present his perspective of where we are and where to go from here so that the viewers can make a rational choice as to which Democrat to choose.
Posted by: jb | September 26, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Why is there not more talk about Bidens health? Hasn’t the guy had a couple of brain aneurysms? So if he kicks the bucket we end up with? Pelosi? Give me Sarah Palin any day over Biden, Pelosi or even Obama.
Another reason to vote McCain is that truly tasteless commercial aired by NBC created by DFA. Talk about bottom of the barrel libs.
Posted by: astounded | September 26, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
“The One” without his teleprompter is mortal.
I look forward to McCain, his leadership, experience and foreign relations knowledge will be front and center. Obama can steal ideas and policy from Hillary and Bush, he is just an empty suit. He has a lot to learn, but remember, he is a freshman senator.
Posted by: martha | September 26, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Lets see what direction our Great Nation takes. We have a younger man with a vision for the future and we have the older man who looks to his past. Now, I wonder which direction American wants to go tonight. We know where we have been and now we have to decide where in the future we want to Go.
Posted by: Kent | September 26, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I believe it’s Obama who voted 130 times “PRESENT” not Mccain. He did so because most of the members of the Congress are racists but now he does care. After all, he cannot vote PRESENT on Nov.4th since there is no provision for such option. That’s very confused to him and I wish him the best.
Posted by: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud. | September 26, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Ugh, this is getting tiresome. You want to put a Constitutional Law professor and Harvard-trained lawyer up against an old coot and think the old coot will kick his butt? Delusional, I tell ya’.
Posted by: geecee | September 26, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Folks please take away the personal attachments from the candidate and a party and make your choice based on policies. I am a republican, I have to vote democratic this time around because the leadership is taking us in the wrong direction. You have to let another organization lead.
Posted by: Joel | September 26, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
McCaine lurches from one decision to the next in a kneejerk way. How can anyone think that this man is competent to run the United States. He is unpredictable, illtempered and will be dangerous with the military at his disposal.
He has accomplished nothing on his own merits but has riden his family and wife’s along with an incident resulting from his own incompetence to where he is today.
What is so ironic is that John Kerry who was in the middle of action when he gallantly fought in vietnam was ridiculed by the republicans but McCaine whose incompetence got him shot down is considered some big hero.
He really had no choice but to stay in that jail for it was the last chance to save face for the lackluster soldier he was.
Posted by: mal | September 26, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
blah
Posted by: Joe | September 26, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Well Im Sure McBush will do ok
Unless his VP … has been Helping him
with his Debate skills….
Posted by: Anita Yova | September 26, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
McDesperado,why don’t you come to your senses?
Posted by: Joe | September 26, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Love you, brother Joel as much as I love the fraudulent mortgages of Country wide home loans. I love the Libs with breaking record of approval rating. Screw the taxpayers, let’s go libs.
Posted by: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud. | September 26, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Why do so many Dems resort to name calling? You apparently aren’t the cream of the crop. If you like your candidate, then by all means vote for him. If you get more votes you win. If you don’t get over it.
Posted by: Jim | September 26, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Just wondering, is there room on the stage for Obama’s 300 advisors?
Posted by: GeeGee Stone | September 26, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Zogby’s claim of a landside was with McCain winning.
Posted by: Bobby | September 26, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Gosh, I hope Obama can remember how many states there are. He won’t have his teleprompter to help him remember what he stands for. I hope he remembers that Iran IS a threat and that since he does blame Bush for invading Iraq and his idea of invading Pakistan is NOT very smart for a Harvard grad. He shouldn’t bring up anything about his lawyering for ACORN who is under investigation for voter fraud. People might ask further questions. He should steer clear of his work in NY when his former co-workers have a different account on his work there. I wonder if anyone will ask him who his childhood mentor was in Hawaii. That’s where his core views of Gov’t stem from….ooops, that’s right, he CAN’T let anyone know that. It’s Frank Marshall Davis, the communist. And he can’t talk about his business associate, William Ayers, the terrorist. Gosh, Obama you will be saying your usual oooohs and uummms for good reason. Can’t accomplish a whole lot in your 143 day career as Senator. Thanks, but no thanks on your vision of a sociaistic society Obama. I still want to keep the Republic that we have.
Posted by: justright | September 26, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
McCain’s past record consists solely of being a puppet of the greedy richest 1% and the oil corps., exactly like George W. Bush.
McCain tried to get out of the debate by using the bailout as an excuse. But instead of helping with the bailout negotiations, McCain proved to be an unwanted hindrance, thus belying his excuse for showing up for the debate.
McCain doesn’t want to debate because he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. He’s a Bush clone and everyone has finally come to realize that Bush’s policies lead to disaster.
Even the Republican politicians know that McCain doesn’t stand a chance. That’s why he couldn’t get Romney or anyone you’d heard of to be his running mate. Picking an unknown, inexperienced beauty queen from Alaska was scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Posted by: Truth | September 26, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Reply to Widestance::::
You made a reference to John McCain class rank at Annapolis. At least John McCain did not break the Annapolis honor code. One could argue that if John McCain broke the honor code he might have had a higher class rank. The Honor code at Annapolis parallels the Air Force Academy Honor Code which state we will not lie, steal, or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Cheating scandals have occurred at the Air Force Academy in 1965, 1967, 1972, 1984, 2004 and 2007. In 1965, 1 hundred and nine cadets were expelled from the Air Force Academy for their involvement in cheating. There have also been numerous cheating scandals at West Point and Annapolis which has resulted in permanent expulsion of those involved. The military academies treat cheating scandals similar to law enforcement academies. A military officer can order troops into battle and their integrity should be above reproach when they placing their men in harms way. Similarly the testimony of a law enforcement officer can send someone away to prison for thirty years or even result in a death sentence so no cheating during academic training can be tolerated. The word and integrity of all federal, state, and local law enforcement officers can not be even remotely questioned. The City of Irving Texas recently fired over half of a recent police academy training class because there was organized cheating. So whether in law enforcement or the military, cheating can not be tolerated. As President, John McCain will be commander in chief and Sarah Palin can also step into that role and both can say that they were never involved in a cheating incident and their command to go to battle will not be questioned. It has been reported that Joe Biden had to repeat his first year law school legal research and writing class because there were questions regarding plagiarism. In the military academies or law enforcement academies there would not have been a second chance for Joe.
Posted by: politicsandtraditions | September 26, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Posted by: martha | Sep 26, 2008 4:32:31 PM Marha, “Obama can steal ideas”
There is nothing new under the Sun. Remember a pig with lipstick is still a pig. See old ideas and years of experience does not automatically equate to success. McCain is wrong for this generation and the next.
Posted by: Mike | September 26, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Maybe Barack was thinking about Joe when he said that small town rural Americans cling to religion and guns in tough times. It must have been real tough times during his first year of law school that Joe Biden clung to his religion in deciding to use an academic product of his own faith, Fordham Law Review to commit plagiarism. Joe Biden did more than cling to religion, he clung so hard that he ended up taking substantial chunks out of the Fordham Law Review and failed and had to repeat his legal research and writing class as a result.
Posted by: politicsandtraditions | September 26, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | Sep 26, 2008 4:22:38 PM
McCain is too damn old to fix anything.
Posted by: Mike | September 26, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
McCain can’t blame Obama for anything, Obama hasn’t done anything. Obama has spent more time trying to get himself elected Pres than he has spent doing absolutly nothing in Senate. He isn’t thin he’s the man who never was. The media has created a “Cult of Personality” around him. He’s an empty suit, a phony, a poser, a sham, a flim flam man. President? What a bad joke.
Posted by: joey | September 26, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
GeeGeestone – Yeah, didn’t you hear from Obama that he does better doing policy on the phone? His actions at the WH yesterday I heard were embarrassing and the dems in congress are covering for him. People will find out what a fraud this guy is. McCain who has served with honor first as a soldier and as a statesman, will but Obama to shame.
Posted by: justright | September 26, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Clintonite,
You are right.Pelosi is a big joke and needs to go on a big vaction along with the rest of her cronies.
Posted by: ronnie | September 26, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
– McCain can’t blame Obama for anything, Obama hasn’t done anything. –
Just for grins, try searching for Bills introduced into the current 110th Congress, sponsored by each candidate. Results:
Biden: 155
Obama: 130
McCain: 38
I’d say that he hasn’t just been sitting around doing nuthing
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
too bad justright , unfortunately (for you anyway) you are in the MINORITY and guess what?
you WILL do what you are told by this next DEMOCRATIC government , probably for the next 2 or 3 presidential elections…you got that??
Posted by: bah | September 26, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I don’t see any spin coming from the Republican base today. That’s all I see from the Obama. Just so you know, Obama folks bought up all of McCain’s air time when he went to D.C. Now there is somebody that feels your pain. Let’s go on a spending spree to get the crown while the country is going down the tubes. There is now not going to be a 700 billion give-away. There will be help, yes. But these companies are going to be forced to carry their own weight. You can thank McCain and the Republican leadership for not caving to the president and the democrats.
Posted by: J France | September 26, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
McCain is too damn old to fix anything.
Posted by: Mike | Sep 26, 2008 4:47:21 PM..hey, Reagan did it
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | September 26, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Obama’s words of wisdom:
- call me if you need me
- that’s above my paygrade
- I only knew Resko for 5 hours
- Rev. Wright: my uncle, mentor, family member, spiritual guide
- 57 ststes, with more to go…
- “Bitter”
Must be that affirmative action education, at taxpayers expense – ouch!
Posted by: Atisha | September 26, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Man are the republican backers in for a big surprise tonight. Since McCain will not be able to talk about much other than failures and voting the wrong way in the senate, it will be funny how he answers the questions [Dfence]. My guess it will kind of how Palin answered in the Katie Couric interview….non-sensical and in the ozone… LOL I can’t wait.
Posted by: McCain/Yalin - The road to nowhere! | September 26, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
I thought McCain put out an ad this morning declaring that he has already won today’s debate even before it happened? the world ilaughing at America. This Morning, Chinese TV said “the US election is becoming very entertaining. They commentator went on to say “it’s like watching horribly-scripted American TV sitcom.” Enough said!
Posted by: Emanuel | September 26, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I’m still on the fence, but I will say my one knock on Obama is his inability to connect with the 18M former Hillary supporters. He seems to think Hillary can get them lined up behind him, but he doesn’t realize it was his own campaign that alienated them. I’m reading “No Ordinary Time” (great book) and it talks about Rooservelt’s ability to understand public opinion (thanks to Elanor) and to persuade them to get behind his vision. I haven’t seen Obama shows these capabilities yet and worry that he would rather hold a grudge than to truly try to unite people behind his vision. In fact, I would love to see a survey that captures how many people are voting for him out of Democratic loyalty versus real belief in him as a candidate. I’m on the fence simply because I can’t tell who he is through the amazing marketing machine his team has created. And it is amazing. Quite the talk in the marketing/advertising industry and will definitely create historic changes in future election campaigns.
Posted by: Jeriad | September 26, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
3-2 odds obama spends more time trying to link mccain to dubya then promoting any real ideas to help America
Posted by: chris | September 26, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
– Boy, lots of dimwit McCain supporters here…how long did it take to select Palin? –
Yup, most are repeating the same Roveian methods of espousing fear and ignorance instead of focusing on issues and facts.. it is a shame.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
I hate repetion. It’s like a broken LP machine. Okay, we heard you Obama voted PRESEN 130 times. Please do not re-print that BS again. On Nov 4th, He cannot vote PRESENT anymore. Such a confusing voting system.I do not think he can figue it out without his 300 advisors.
Posted by: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud. | September 26, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
pelosie just wants to give away the money, pelosie/obama/biden running the country? just a little frighting.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
placing the issues before the candidate: the Clintons; placing the candidate before the issues: michelle obama, when asked if she would vote for Hillary if she was the nominee, didn’t say she would
Posted by: chris | September 26, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Maybe he should just call in on the phone to the debate. He says he does better on the phone then in person.
I wonder why???
Posted by: Liz | September 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
If you want more handouts vote Obama.If you want higher taxes vote Obama.If you want more goverment vote Obama. This is what it comes down to.Do you want Wright
,Jessie and AL laying in the whitehouse vote Obama.
Posted by: ronnie | September 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Bah, unfortunately we conservatives are in the minority who have the brains to actually know what Obama stands for. And that’s SOCIALISM. You can thank your democratic congressmen for this mortgage and financial mess that they’ve help create! You can thank your party for social security being bankrupt! You can look forward to double digit interest rates and higher unemployment rates and long lines at the gas station. You must miss the Carter years, right? Bet you’re just salivating and can’t wait to hold up Marxist manifestos on all public buildings.
Posted by: justright | September 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
justright:
Bwwahhahha. I’m not hiding, nor a punk. I’m onto something and you’re pissed.
Palin is great, so is Todd. But not as VP or First Dude.
And yes, I own 4 guns, snowmobile, wrench on my own car and can field dress fowl, Elk, fish. And I make well into the 6 figures, am educated, and dirve a Volvo.
You’re just angry because a smart black man is going to be YOUR president.
Posted by: Sen. Widestance | September 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Iranian President joked “If there is a crisis like a Katrina and McCain is the President, will he then suspend the Government operatins and fly to New Orleans and vow never to return to Washington until the water level has receded? And will he change his mind a day later and return to D.C. if the water refuse to go down!?!?? What a bunch of bull has McCain’s campaign become?
Posted by: Emanuel | September 26, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Good luck to both cantidates!!!And God Bless America
Posted by: ynot | September 26, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
– the minority who have the brains to actually know what Obama stands for. And that’s SOCIALISM. –
Please enlighten this ‘brainless’ one as to how he stands for socialism..
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Posted by: Mike | Sep 26, 2008 4:47:21 PM..hey, Reagan did it.
I surely don’t recall Reagan being INEPT!
Posted by: Mike | September 26, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
I think Obama is a good reader of the autoprompt mcahine. I don’t hear ‘heart’ and true conviction of what he’s saying. That’s not something you can learn, it has to be there. When you listen to radio all day (I choose not to have a TV)you learn how to hear the sound of truth and heart in someones voice and I don’t hear it in Obama’s.
Posted by: mary | September 26, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
from february 4th: ROBERTS: So what if Senator Clinton defeats her husband, becoming the first woman nominee. Could you see yourself working to support the first woman nomination?
OBAMA: I’d have to think about that. I’d have to think about that, her policies, her approach, her tone.
Posted by: chris | September 26, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Jeriad -
You have to choose between Obama and McCain or stay home. You can either focus on issues or personality, but if it is about personalities you might want to switch from politics to American Idol.
Posted by: jb | September 26, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
obama’s initial plan when dealing with the bailout plan was to put out a joint statement with mccain
Posted by: chris | September 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Biden said it correctly: Obama is not qualified to be president. I agree !!!
Posted by: Baron | September 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Look on the bright side, Obama may legalize control substance…smoking pot in the Oval office is kind of cool.
Posted by: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud. | September 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
OfcourseObama – How do you know Obama got into Harvard and Columbia for his smartness? Are you sure? Amazing, no one can remember him at Columbia or Occidental College. Liz – that meeting Obama held yesterday at the WH was ABOVE HIS PAYGRADE! I think they couldn’t fit the teleprompter inside the room.
Posted by: justright | September 26, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
the popularity of American Idol is why we have the tough choice between the inexperienced charmer and the angry old man, rather than the easy choice of the best person to be the best President for our children, our troops and America: Senator Clinton
Posted by: chris | September 26, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
How he can be setting the bar high? Obama is sitting around waitign to be told what to do, and making his priroity his campain. I am confused? Does the media have a marraige to Obama?
I think Obama should take a look at how McCain is taking a risk, jumping in, and helping move the resolutions further along. It’s called leadership. All Obabma has so far is hot air, stumbled words and a bunch of BS to tell the American public.
Posted by: kk | September 26, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Posted by: harold l | Sep 26, 2008 4:58:02 PM
You are going to be scared? You should already be scared, especially if John McCain becomes the President, dies in a couple of years and Palin takes over.
Posted by: Shaun | September 26, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
So I guess Chris won’t be voting…
Posted by: jb | September 26, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
McCain right after he delayed his campaign, John McCain had a political candidate interview with Katie Curic.
McCain a man of his word? ? ? ?
Posted by: mere | September 26, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Obama is a master debater.
Posted by: EOBF | September 26, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Obama: “I’m a socialist! Get over it! As I wrote in my memoir, I do have marxist tendancies!”
Posted by: justright | September 26, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Very interesting response from Abe. Unless something has changed, the election isn’t until November and I’m obviously one of the few who wants to watch the debates to see how these candidates respond to REAL issues, such as foreign policy & the economy. I’m amazed at how confident everyone is in their choice already when we know so little at this juncture. I guess I’m not much of a fan club type of voter, although I have never voted for a republican in the past. Yet, I do feel like a leader has to be more than a good test taker. One of the most important attributes of a leader is their ability to read the public and to get them behind your vision. Ohterwise he won’t be able to execute on any of the ideas he is proposing. I don’t feel that Obama has done that, but I don’t know if that is the arrogance of his campaign staff that has caused this division in the democratic party or his personal issues with holding a grudge over more lofty goals.
Posted by: Jeriad | September 26, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
How can one set a bar for Palin?
Just do NOT ask Palin any questions or you will be escorted out of the room with a mountain of thank yous.
Posted by: mere | September 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
– How do you know Obama got into Harvard and Columbia for his smartness? –
And please, please tell us how that has anything to do with, well, anything?
Don’t change the fact he graduated magna cum laude, was president of the Harvard Law Review, or has taught constitutional law for 12 years.
Should we start examining how McCain may have made it into the US Naval Academy also? Don’t suppose dad and grand-dad being Admirals had anything to do with it do you?
What a lame non-issue.. and just more of the same most McCain supporters lately.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Sorry, my response was to jb, not abe.
Posted by: Jeriad | September 26, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Obama could not even take care of the state he was elected to do.He is in way to deep for the job that has to be done.How do you Obama guys think he can handle this? Onlything I can say is Joe get ready because you will be the president.
Posted by: ronnie | September 26, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is “out of her league” and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
The criticism in Parker’s Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives.
It was fun while it lasted,” Parker writes. “Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league.”
Palin’s interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
“If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself,” Parker also writes. “If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.”
I will say what is true. I pray that if the Republicans win, that McCain stays in good heath because it scares me to death that Palin could be president if something were to happen to him. She is a nut job and would have us shooting nukes ar Russia on a dime. This is McCains great decision making.
On tonighs debate I expect the same ole, rep. hype because McCain will use one and two word answers and POW years and the republicans eat that up. They think thinking before answering is some kind of slowness or weakness. I call it intelligence, which is something else the republicans (some) dont get. Someone said the reason the GOP does so well is they know a lot, but they also know most voters dont know a lot. Therefore the one that keeps it short and simple tonight will win the debate but the one that is acually smarter and listens to the question, thinks about his answer and then answers will be seen as some as the looser. This is how most GOP voters respond. Shame
Posted by: CW | September 26, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
mccain stops the bail out and is the bad guy?why do you think he went to dc.just the way dc works and the media knows that and still attacks mccain.mccain is the best thing that ever happend to the media.obama does what ever pelosie tells him.it is not obama vs mccain it is mccain vs pelosie
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Sen. Widestance: I think your responding to the wrong person. I’m real happy for your success in the past 8 years, but with this smart black man sneaking into the political scene you may be broke in the next 4. But fear not, he’ll slither away back under the rock that he came from after Nov. Enjoy your toys while you still have them.
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
STOP STOP STOP McCain!
How can you guys ever let a GRANDPA run the country? He’s no good other than falsifying “Nam” stories…
And Palin? What experience does she have other than being a failed mother?
Obama at least could be the new Kennedy…
And Biden has all the experience…
PLEASE COME TO YOUR SENSES…!!
Posted by: Alex from Europe | September 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
where does obama stand on the 700 billion hand out? uh,uh,uh,uh, let me get back to you
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
– Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is “out of her league” and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party. –
And the sad part is it took them this long to figure it out!
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
“I think it is genius, if he does good, then he makes mccain look like a fool. If he does bad then they can fall back and say “well we said McCain is a better debater.”"
I don’t think it works that way. No one is going to get points because they said “I told you we’d lose”
Posted by: Present | September 26, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
first one to vote against the bail out wins the white house.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
The reality is that Obama is not a good debater. He’s very cerebral and tends to think through every word while speaking. McCain is good at pounding the table. Obama tends to remain calm at every question and tries extremely hard answering them with good judgment and knowledge. His calm nature sometimes is mistaken as weak or unsure of himself. Obama is a great decision maker because he truly studies the issues but tonight he needs to be aggressive.
Posted by: dan | September 26, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
there is nothing genius about not blowing out mccain by now.obama has no idea where mccain is coming from next.when this is over everyone is going to miss mccain.bail out,hand out,rescue plan does not work and all that is left are obama and biden.talk about a bad deal
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Pretty words and rhetoric do not cure the problems we face.
If you really care about the USA it is time to put a NONE OF THE ABOVE slot on your ballot.
Mc Cain is between a rock and a hard place ( squeeze play ) Obama does not have a clue. God help us if the BAILOUT goes through.
Posted by: Sean Michael | September 26, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
John McCain will be reeling off a string of one-liners with vigor – regardless of their relevance and put on his “wasn’t that cool?” smile as his eyes stop their rapid fire fluttering. Some call that a great debate style.
Obama will actually think about what he wants to say in response to a question, will frame it intelligently, and give a more thoughtful response. Some will call that stuttering.
In the end, we’ll see who the smart one is – and it will NOT be a September surprise.
Posted by: sgtmajor | September 26, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Barak Hussein: Man, that was beautiful.
Posted by: bombem | September 26, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
The reality is that Obama is not a good debater. He’s very cerebral and tends to think through every word while speaking. McCain is good at pounding the table. Obama tends to remain calm at every question and tries extremely hard answering them with good judgment and knowledge. His calm nature sometimes is mistaken as weak or unsure of himself. Obama is a great decision maker because he truly studies the issues but tonight he needs to be aggressive.
Posted by: dan
Dan you are exactly right. Some GOPers do call “thought” a weekness. I personaly would rather have a President that looks at all facts, thinks about his decision, remains calm, and explains his or her decision. The republicans get off on answers like crush, destroy, attack, military, force and such and oh yea they love to hear the POW story over and over.
Posted by: CW | September 26, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Atisha,
There is no such thing as an affirmative action education. When you are enrolled in a college or taking a graduate course of study, there are no special exams, the standards are set for all students equally on what it will take to earn your degree. So no matter how you get in you have to earn your way out. Your comments are interesting though, becuase I thought republicans loveed affirmative action as that’s what was taking place in the Justice Department where “loyal bushies” were hired over more qualified candidates as a matter of course. A far worse result becuase the “loyal bushies” didn’t have to earn anything after being give the job. Guess republicans think affirmative action is ok as long as its not benefitting some else.
Posted by: Tired of the Affirmative Action Excuse | September 26, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
(CNN) – Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is “out of her league” and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
Palin’s interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson.
Posted by: Emanuel | September 26, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
MCCAIN-POLIN AND GOP GAMBLE IS OVER. POLL NO SAYS THAT 52% TO 42%. NOV.4 IS NOT VERY FAR.YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.AMERICAN VOTERS ARE NOT STUPID.WE ALL SAW EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH-CHAINEY, 2 BILLION DOLLARS/DAY IN IRAQ.NOW “BAILOUT”RECESSION?? WE HAD ENOUGH OF BUSH-CHAINEY AND GOP. SARAH PALIN ANOTHER FUNNY AND RISKY ONE.VOTER ARE NOT BUYING. IT IS”ECONOMY”STUPID.
Posted by: mksyed | September 26, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
For those of you who believe that 700 billion will do the job: Rule of thumb for government estimates. Double the estimate for the first six months, triple for the next six month period, 33.5 percent for each following six month periods attributed to unforeseen inflation adjustments and cost overruns. But we are already at 1.8 trillion. Know when to hold’em know when to fold’em know when to walk away!NO BAILOUT!
Do not let the Politicians suck you into this deal. Let it die a natural death. Do not waste resources on a hopeless case. Let the chips fall where they may, pick up the pieces, and move on.
Have you ever seen anything the government has touched that is not as “Messed-up” as a”SOUP SANDWICH”?
Posted by: Sean Michael | September 26, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
you could not have h clinton/pelosie running the country, the dems let obama win so pelosie could tell him what to do,h clinton would be 15 points ahead by now.it is about how bad obama is running.mccain is holding on,and the dems are shaking there heads.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
please stop the bail out talk, that thing is going to pass and not work. we the people have no say. all the phone calls and emails will not change that.enjoy your weekend.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Truth be told, McCain is a horrible debater. He is not a lawyer like Obama. Lawyers can think on their feets or are trained to do so. McCain does not have the oratory skills of Obama or Biden. Same with Palin. Biden will destroy her in debates. Obama and Biden are known for their articulate abilities.
Posted by: Karen | September 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Did anyone see the debates during the primarys? McCain was a really good debater and he knows his stuff. My guy was Romney and McCain really pissed Romney off. He’s a great debater and he stays calm, doesn’t even break a sweat. I knew after that debate in January that McCain was in. He’s a natural on the stage.
The only reason GWB won over McCain was because of the architect Karl Rove.
The fact is Obama only agreed to 3 debates. McCain wanted to do more and even invited him to do Townhall meeting together, going so far to offer to pay Obama’s transportation costs to the events.
After tonight, Obama is in trouble.
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
McSAME’s staff needs to make sure the Bright RED RupubliCON Flag with its sickle and hammer is centered behind their candidate for that perfect photo op!
Posted by: m | September 26, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
“Just for grins, try searching for Bills introduced into the current 110th Congress, sponsored by each candidate. ”
And be sure to actually READ the bills in question. You’ll be amazed what kind of crackpot nonsense Obama and Biden put their names to (remember, you don’t have to write it to sponsor it.)
Democrats should NOT be using this in support of their candidate.
Posted by: Erik | September 26, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
who do you think might vote no on the bail out?mr ambiguous,uh,uh,uh obama.or mccain?
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Mccain Is scared like a chicken,although he and GOP are saying he is a Mevric.American voters already know the “GAMBLE” Mccain &GOP is Playing.First Sarah Palin drama,what is over.And now “BAILOUT” and Mccain is trying to escape from first debate and trying to save Palin from jab from Biden.Poll no.52% to 42%.Mccain is saying “I am falling and can’t get up?”
Posted by: mksyed | September 26, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Isn’t it odd that none of the right-wing talk shows are talking about Palin’s interview.
Posted by: Lisa | September 26, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
m—Maybe Obama can use his new Obama presidential seal of socialism for his phot ops!
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Liberal vs. Conservative.
Can someone explain to me why being liberal is bad? If you’re a conservative, does that mean you’re NOT in favor of the Constitution? The basic definition of a liberal is “favorable to progress or reform”, i.e., moving forward and holding people accountable for their actions.
Seems to me EVERY AMERICAN, making less than $500,000 a year (the overwhelming majority of us), should want their leaders to be held accountable for their actions, and have our best interests in mind when the make decisions that ultimately affect our lives.
Seems to me people are affraid of what a man or woman CAN be, or are simply too lazy to work hard enough to find out.
I’m an independent, because I think it makes zero sense to choose a candidate based on political affiliation. I’ve voted for Republican, Democrat, and Independent. I look at it as my civic duty to vote for the best candidate possibly, regardless of party affiliation.
I think it’s time American’s stop voting based on party lines because you want to be with the “in” crowd. Go home tonight, look at your children, your wife, your husband. Then stop for a minute and think “which candidate is really looking out for me?”
Posted by: notimeforpolitics | September 26, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Everyone always says Obama can’t speak without a teleprompter and he’s an empty suit. Well, maybe tonight you’ll see that he knows A LOT and he is thoughtful and prudent and very very smart. McCain has been giving speeches and debating for twice as long as Obama but I don’t think he is nearly as thoughtful or smart as Obama, and I don’t think he knows as much about foreing policy either. It changes fast and McCain is slowing down. As for prudence, Maverick McCain has never claimed that attribute.
Posted by: marilyn | September 26, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Lisa–If you mean Foxnews, you obviously don’t watch it, so don not know enough to make that comment.
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Just how stupid do you think the American public is? ABC puts a spin on everything! On the other hand, my motto is “Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public.” ABC never does.
Posted by: Carol | September 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
What kind of people are we willing to put in the White House these days? I mean we might as well select 2008 Playboy palymate of the year Bunny for VP is all we want is to get Hillary Clinton’s voters ya? I mean any woman will qualify for that matter. Bush said Wall Street got drunk and went to sleeep. He should know, he drinks! It seems to me the whoel country is drunk and has gone to sleep if we are willing to put somebody like Palin a heartbeat away form the Oval office, somembody who has no idea that when Russian planes fly over Alaska when coming to America, the Pentagon has already given them clearance to do that and that the Alaska Governor has no say over that unless the Pentagon asks the National Guard fighter planes in Aalska to Intercept. Palin said she is the “Commander in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard.” What is she commanding in Alaska? Fish? Polar Bears? Melting Icebergs in motion?
Posted by: Emanuel | September 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
obama/biden tell the people what ever they want to hear.vote for us and your life will get much better.vote against bail out?what should we do?lets attack mccain. that is all they got?
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Jeriad -
Yes – we will have to see. I have always voted Democratic, so I admit some bias. I am strongly adverse to jingoism such as I witnessed during the Republican convention and that alone is enough to steer me away from them. Further, I find it odd that the party against “big government” wants to snoop into my private life while allowing businesses to run unfetttered. So you might say I have made my choice. I suppose if McCain were to unmask Obama to show his horns and forked tail I could change my mind, but I have seen nothing to suggest that he is a stealth candidate. Your statement
“to read the public and to get them behind your vision” is a bit puzzling. I’m thinking one would read the public in order to follow them, not lead them. As in reading the polls to set your policy. I agree that a president’s job is to set a vision and rally support for it but I think the vision itself is a starting point. If it is a flawed vision and the president rallies support that could be bad. Look at George W. Bush and the Iraq war.
Posted by: jb | September 26, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Adam wrote: “Obama spent 10 days to write Acceptance speech.” That’s right – he did write that speech. Compared to ALL other candidates now that have several people write their speeches.
Posted by: Sandra | September 26, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
hillary clinton should run now, she might win.think about it.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
To: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud
That would be two not to.
barely string two (as in the number) sentences together…
Posted by: Revrac | September 26, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
McCain is going to win. Too bad for the liberals that Hollywood and the media dont determine the next President. (Although they would like too)
Obama and Biden are not our savior. Same old crap every election. Change Change Change.
He is not qualified period.
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
To Dod-Countrywide-the-fraud didn’t you watch McCain the other night he was reading off the tele/prompter it was so obvious he can’t remember anything he is so old he forgets what he is saying. I don’t really want to hear about him being a prisoner of war yes he served his country like everyone else but I need to know what he is doing now and over the years 8 exactly he has been backing Bush that tells me another 4 years of being in the hole which by the way is where we are now.
Posted by: roger1/cand | September 26, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
It should be good.
Posted by: BJ | September 26, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
I ask: Are the American people are so stupid? How can the race be so tight right now after all that the Republicans have done in the past 8 tears to run the country to the ground under ‘W’s watch! Fightin 2 wars at 1 Trillion dollars, no regulation on Wall Street thugs, historical gas prices over summer, inflation, a record deficit after inheritinga budget surplus from Clinton. Someone said if Hillary was a nominee, she would have been ahead 15 points. Well, why? because she is white? I mean are people this dumb and blind? It must racial bias. I can’t think of anything else.
Posted by: Emanuel | September 26, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
obama never took any money from anybody ever. that is drinking the koolaid,and buying the whole fear thing.that is obama’s platiform.watch obama vote for the hand out and mccain vote against it and obama still win the wh.god help us
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
again mccain stops the bail out and he is the bad guy?i luv the media, even the dems are mad at mccain.the dems want to fork over 700billion so fast.this is what is coming?obama 08
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
no time for politics–I will try to outline the liberalist views, besides the obvious, gay marriage, late term partial abortions, etc… Liberal positions a counterintuitive:
1. They believe that fighting back against terrorism is futile and creats a cycle of violence.
2. Like to use the word”neocons” when they don’t even know what it means.
3. Is willing to defend Americans from terrorist unless it requires military action, and an OK from the French and Germans.
4. Trash christianity but defends Radical Islamists who support terrorism.
5. Believes that Saddam was a horrible, murerous dictator but when U.S. and 30 other countries liberated them, you want to leave the Iraqi people to their fate.
Is that enough?
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
S. Adams-Good point indeed. You should see the HUGE crowds for McCain-Palin have have seen while traveling all over the country the past 2 weeks. Funny how the media doesnt cover that. Oh-I also saw some Obama crowds-I actually felt sorry for him. Did I just say that?
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
There are some of us that will be looking for sincerity, rather than a performance. I’d rather have one sincere and honest person in office than one very experienced liar.
Posted by: Lil Rock | September 26, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“THIS IS THE WORST FINANCIAL CRISIS SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION”.. BUT CALL ME IF YOU NEED ME.
NOW THAT’S THE MARK OF A TRUE LEADER.
WHAT A JOKE!!!!
Posted by: David | September 26, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
darryl–Last week Palin drew 60,000 supporters in Fl and they barely covered it. In May, Obama crashed a free concert in the park in Oregon and the MSM made it seem like the 65,000 people were there just for him. Pathetic isn’t it?
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
My friends and I will be listening to WHAT they say, not HOW they say it.
Posted by: EGBOK321 | September 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Dodd
Obama voted present 120 votes out of 4000 which is pretty normal…look it up and quit quoting misleading statistics. When they vote present it means somebody added somthing to the bill (usually pork like the bridge to nowhere) that they wish not to vote on. Get a clue
Posted by: 11-4-08 End of an error | September 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
you will never see it again, a 700 billion hand out bill that everyone is against but still passes.its magic,and all the obamas in the world can change that.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Yes…the campaign managers of each candidate have different approaches but, make no mistake about it, both are quite adept at their craft. After reading, watching, and listening to both (yes…I’m one of those low life undecideds), I prefer Obama. Not because of what either candidate is promising to do, but rather because of the dinstinction between the strategies and objectives of each candidate. McCain’s objective is clearly to secure the Presidency. His strategy appears to be weighted heavily on pandering, fear mongering,finger pointing, chosing what he hoped was a “vote getter” for VP. She’s not even remotely qualified for the Presidency if McCain fell ill or died. Obama’s objectives are more clearly defined and relate to more realistic needs. The Presidency has been a part of his strategy… not the end objective. That’s a HUGE distinction in my book. When the dust settles, I don’t expect either candidate to deliver on every promise however, I’d sleep much better at night knowing we, at least, have a President with the right priorities in mind.
Posted by: Bill S | September 26, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
– And be sure to actually READ the bills in question –
Absolutely.. read them! The vast majority of McCains bills are in some way or another related to the military or native indians (he chairs the Senate Indian Affairs committee after all), and a few other odd ball ones thrown in.
On the other hand, Obama has bills introduced in a wide range of areas, such as removing the tax breaks currently being given to the oil and gas industry [yes, on TOP of their record profits] (S.115), promoting the use of alternative fuels and improved technology (S.133), improve fuel economy standards (S.768), preventing transmission of HIV/AIDS (S.823), increase research and initiatives to improve the accuracy of disease diagnosis and increase the safety of drugs (S.976), mprove health and the environmental quality of communities (S.1067 and S.1068), provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans
(S.1084), stop mortgage transactions which operate to promote fraud, risk, abuse, and under-development (S.1222), A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions (S.1324)
and the list goes on. If you examine what it is that each candidate is sponsoring, you will see that McCain overwhelmingly pushes for military bills, while Obama is pushing for the American people. Like you said, go look at them.. the difference is amazing.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
NObama is going to get worked over tonight.
Posted by: Christian | September 26, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
what are the right priorities?working the dc system best you can,or going into the white house on a real change platiform and run head first into gridlock?or do you belive the real change/change we need thing.who works the system better?
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
S. Adams- Thats what’s great. Middle America sees the biased state of the media. So it is not hard for them to support McCain-Palin. They see through all the crap.
Did you hear the networks announced their fall TV line up and their are more gay and lesbian characters than ever before.
That’s nice. Just what I want to explain to 7 year old daughter.
What they do behind closed doors is none of my business, and quite frankly, I don’t care. But dont cram it down my throat during primetime television.
That is the definition of the Hollywood and liberal television networks.
Our founding fathers are ROLLING so much in their graves, thay are going to turn up in China!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
harold – wow, nice how you are leaving out the fact that the “bail out” was demanded by King George to fix the failing economy that the Republicans and John McCain f’d up with an unnecessary war, deregulation and tax breaks for the rich. The Republicans dug us a hole and are demanding the Democratic congress fill it in with $700 billion of taxpayer money and no strings attached! And then they still want more!!! Tax breaks for the rich!!! And less regulation !!!. Only a moron would vote for McCain after this economic debacle.
Posted by: dan | September 26, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
– To: Dodd-Countrywide-the-fraud
That would be two not to.
barely string two (as in the number) sentences together… –
Revrac.. that was ME and my TYPO.. but thanks for bringing up that very very importing issue so we can all be less confused about what was written.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
everyone by now knows who the media is for,the media wants obama so bad they just might not get him.most people do not want to be told what to do and the media is missing that.the media is working both ways for mccain
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Poor Obama – no teleprompter to rely on – he can’t speak without one – he’s doomed.
Posted by: Ravenhair | September 26, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Don’t blame McCain’s lockstep following of George Bush on the Media. John McCain is just another Neo-Con puppet cut from the same block of wood as George Bush. McCain knows America detests the current moron president that put us in this predicament and McCain has been doing his best to play both sides of the politics. Every American sees through him. That’s not the media’s fault.
Posted by: dan | September 26, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
The American political machine is a thing of wonder. It manages to divide the sheeple into two groups, equally rabid in the belief that “their” guy actually cares one bit about them, when the truth is it’s all about getting power and the wealth that comes with it. It’s no wonder the founding fathers had no use for the idea of political parties. Partisan political gridlock is the modern politicians best friend. Keep the population busy arguing with each other over which political “brand” is best, and they will never notice how both “brands” are bleeding the country dry.
Posted by: EOBF | September 26, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
jb–You have furthur proven my liberal points and made none of your points.
What is a neocon?
Don’t believe in God.
Iraqi’s are still in danger, but you still want to abandon them.
I guess you think that all the mass graves our troops dug up were from Iraqi’s who stood over the hole and shot themselves in the head?
Lastly, no time for politics asked, I just answered his question.
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
But everyone now knows about this setting expectations stuff, so how is it supposed to work? All you really need to know is that Obama is a life long socialist and McCain is not.
Posted by: Jerry | September 26, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
– It manages to divide the sheeple into two groups, –
Well, I have voters broken down into 4 catagories:
1) Those who will vote the Party line, for whatever reason they choose that party. Be it perceived ideology, connection to perceived core values, or whatever. These people will not and cannot change their minds and even when presented with the truth, and will refuse to budge from their stance under any circumstances.
2) There are those who will vote based on non-issue attributes. These people will vote based on gender, race, ethnicity, religion, name, appearance, cleanliness, age, shoe size, or any number of purely superfluous reasons. These people might change their mind if there is overwhelming evidence for such a change, and a change that they can identify with, such as increased wealth, health issues, social issues, any valid issue that appeals to them.
3) There are those who haven’t yet decided who to vote for. This can be due to many reasons. Some are simply weighing the pros and cons until additional information is found to sway in a particular direction. Some just do not understand the issues and are waiting to hear a compelling reason to vote one way or another. These are the people who should be discussing and analyzing the issues, with others if necessary.
4) Those who vote strictly on the issues, how they feel about them, and where the candidates stand on them is. This includes looking at which candidate would most likely take this country in the right direction, based on those issues and where they stand on them. This are the people who we want voting.
Which category do you fall into?
Please make an informed decision when you vote. Our country depends on it.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Oops. Sorry. I know mentioning God does not sit well with most liberals.
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
McCain’s strategy to get Obama to come to Washington instead of preparing for the debate was a stroke of genius. Now Obama has not had time to practice his prepared answers (written by his handlers) and his switching of subject from the asked question to the prepared answer. McCain already has all of this foreign policy knowledge in his head, so he didn’t need preparation.
Posted by: Sammy | September 26, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
– What is a neocon? –
Neo-conservative.. one who swings wildly to the right on political issues and believes in military force can settle all issues.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Posted by: dm2008 | Sep 26, 2008 3:59:15 PM
ABC simply caters to liberals. I find this quite sad. This article suggests that Obama can set standards for how Mc Cain needs to do?
Yet ABC runs this as some kind of GOSPEL worthy of public consumption?
The Obama camp gets to frame how everything works? And ABC gleefully runs off and reports it like good surrogates.
How dissapointing for the media to look this foolish.
So where do I go as an idiot undecided?
Oh, Fox News right?
According to you :CNN = Liberal, NBC = Liberal, ABC = Liberal. If Cspan anchors ever debated a point there would be nothing but Fox to watch to get the “fair and balanced news”. Liberal bias again? What a crock.
Posted by: Mark | September 26, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Breaking News on CNN-
A skeleton just fell from the sky in downtown Bejing. Because of the advanced technology of the Chinese, they have already identified the body as that of George Washington, USA.
I told you he was spinning in his grave!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Concerned American – What about people who vote based on character? That is how everyone should vote. If you vote for someone with good character, the other things fall into place. And the best judge of character is past actions and past associations.
Posted by: Vern | September 26, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Concerned American and jb–I send my kids to a Christian school just so they will not be exposed to morons of your caliber. Did you notice that shootings and violence in public schools increased when God was taken out of the schools. If you don’t believe in God, you can at least believe in the basic principles of Christianity, i.e., ten commandments.
Even if your kids do not watch TV, they still hear about immoral shows from classmates, media, Unless you are a crazy person and you keep your kids locked up in a windowless room forever, they are going to be influenced by their surroundings, especially in this day and age.
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Concerned American-
Last time I checked, these minorites were not making out with the same sex on Primetime television. Guess you missed my point.
Come, if you are going to debate me-do it from an educated perspective!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
concerned american,
98% of America is straight. Those Kinsey studies were debunked years ago. Do some research.
Posted by: Mongo | September 26, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
– What about people who vote based on character? That is how everyone should vote –
Good point, but someone with good character can still be an idiot!
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
– yet we have to remove the 10 commandements everywhere but church because American’s are so afraid of offending 10% of our population. –
Umm, no, that would be because of something known as seperation of church and state.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Hostile Knowledge–lmao, that is so great.
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
In a perfect world, everyone would fit into #4. However, that is often not an easy task when in reality, it is difficult to know where any candidate stands on any issue these days, given the trend to just “say what the people want to hear.” Inconsistancy is dismissed as changing ones position, or evolving due to changing circumstances. Completely understandable, even desirable if that was really what they were doing. Even when a candidate has a past record to review it is often not an accurate barometer of how they will make their decisions on issues in the future, as future stands on issues are very likely determined by who they owe the most to for being elected to the office they currently hold. It’s probably just better to vote for anyone other than the incumbant.
Posted by: EOBF | September 26, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
darryl I am in the 10 percent that is left handed..does that affect my rights as an american as I am in the minority?
Posted by: galiano | September 26, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Concerned American–considering that most of our laws are based on the 10 commandments, and before testifying in a court of law you swear on a bible, who is it hurting when the 10 commandments is displayed in a courthouse?
Posted by: S Adams | September 26, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
– I send my kids to a Christian school just so they will not be exposed to morons of your caliber. –
And I attended christian schools when I grew up.. and then studied theology in college. If you believe only exposing your children to a select set of religious beliefs, that is your decision. They will eventually grow up and be able to make their own decisions.
And yes, I do believe in do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is just common sense and has nothing to do with religion.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
– I don’t think the founding fathers meant to protect sexual perverts in the constitution –
No, they intended to allow people to be free in their actions, prevent the church from imposing it’s rules (remember why they left England?), provide for free speech and equality for all. You apparently don’t support that stance.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Amazing the Obama people are praising McCann debating skills. They set his bar at five feet and setting Obama’s at 2 inches. Purpose is for Obama to win the debate no matter what happens. McCann did not achieve his bar while Obama rose above his. The media will play into this just wait and hear their talk, McCann good BUT should have been better and Obama rose above expectations. What bull. Good thing the debate is in Mississippi and not Missouri. Missouri elected politicians and law enforcement aka Obama’s truth squad would probably arrest McCann after the debate for lying.
Posted by: pohcd | September 26, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The Democrats just spent 3 days slamming McCain for wanting to postpone the debate. “He must be scared!” Bill Clinton had to come to McCain’s defense, for god sakes! If Obama doesn’t dominate the debate(since he was the one not scared of it), win goes to McCain.
Posted by: wgj109 | September 26, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
– If Obama doesn’t dominate the debate(since he was the one not scared of it), win goes to McCain. –
Pretty much whoever dominates a debate wins.. just like any other competition.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
True American-
What a liberal. “First dude” is the medias moniker.
And so what he has ONE DWI. How many of us have driven after any number of drinks and made it home safely.
That waas a ridiculous statement and shows your lack of education!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
300 advisors? I don’t care if he has 1000. At least Obama is smart enough to know he doesn’t know it all and how to get the information needed to make informed decisions.
Posted by: Connie | September 26, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
the clintons are the smart ones, they now know obama’s first term will be his only term. this mess on wall street will be with us for a couple of years and people are going to be hurting. hillary/12.who is on the rep side,he or she also has a good shot to win the wh in 2012. i can not wait for the welfare cheese. you get use to it.
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
the smart people are taking there money out of the bank, not all right away,just so much at a time.it is more like a walk on a bank rather then a run
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
obama,what i will do for the 10% unemployed,uh,uh,uh nancy,what should i do?
Posted by: harold l | September 26, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Keeping expectations for Obama low and putting them high up for McCain is exactly the wrong thing to do.
Like this, people will indeed perceive Obama as inferior to McCain, even if it’s actually the opposite. Why? It’s just the way the human brain works. Go read “Predictably Irrational”.
Posted by: John | September 26, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Guys, you seem not to get the point:
We don’t need another war, the US should start investing on peace and on turning the tide of anger against it, and Americans should again not be ashamed to travel abroad (oh, and they should actually be able to AFFORD it too)!!!”
The Person who wrote the above doesn’t get it! I don’t give a damn what the rest of the world thinks. The rest of the world has its problems, they look to us to supply the money and the manpower to solve the problems, but they want us to do it their way!
Posted by: Joe | September 26, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Concerned American-
I dont believe you for one second! You are too worked up!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
– Keeping expectations for Obama low and putting them high up for McCain is exactly the wrong thing to do. –
Any expectations is wrong and misguided. The debate is to learn about the candidates, how they feel about issues, what their goals are, and how they conduct themselves, not to see if they meet any preconceived expectation.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
– We don’t need another war, the US should start investing on peace and on turning the tide of anger against it, and Americans should again not be ashamed to travel abroad (oh, and they should actually be able to AFFORD it too)!!!” –
Absolutely agree, 100%
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Yeah thats right, lets let Iran have nuclear powers and leave them alone.
Like I said, what a waste of an education.
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
– I dont believe you for one second! You are too worked up! –
That is of course your choice. And you can call it what you want, but I believe in defending the rights of others. It all boils down to that free speech thing.. it means freedom for all, not just the ones you happen to agree with. That is what got us book burnings and censorship, which is about un-American as you can get.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
– Yeah thats right, lets let Iran have nuclear powers and leave them alone. –
Some would consider that a hypocritical position, based on “Do as I say, Not as I do”, particularly with McCain calling for building 100 new nuclear plants.
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Freedom is a relative term. Do you want the freedom to do anything? Give me a break!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
They have to set a high bar for McCain because, Obama stinks in a debate.
He lost and looked like Palin during his first debate with Clinton.
Posted by: Melissa | September 26, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Concerned American-
It has truly been fun bantering back and forth with you. That is the good thing about being American. We can be neighbors, sit next to each other at a football game and even disagree with each other.
But it is time for me to sign off and catch the debate.
I wish you the best……and remember, it’s ok to agree to disagree.
God Bless you and good night!!!
Posted by: darryl from indy | September 26, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
– You truly represent a true liberal, you should be proud!! –
Ain’t it funny that apparently the liberals are the only ones who try to stand up for our constitutional rights, and the conservatives are the ones trying to take them away?
Did you support President Bush when he violated FISA, a law written specifically to prevent what he did?
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Yup, you do seem to have a rather preverse definition of “Freedom”.. so be it.
Time for the debate to start..
Posted by: Concerned American | September 26, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Obama’s heavy makeup and lip liner looked weird—he looked very feminine. He looked like a phony glamor doll. At least McCain looked like a man!”
Posted by: Omar Sharrif | September 27, 2008, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Done deal for many. Many will tune out now on candidates, McCain & Obama, and go on with their daily drudge life. They have had their decision of whom to vote for confirmed last night. All that remains is the debate of the VPs which will change a few votes but not many. Most of us are ready to vote today.
Posted by: Lawrence | September 27, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am
Obama KNEW the answers. McCain fumbled. Obama was NOT windy.
Posted by: Darla | September 27, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Obama’s smile was so fake. And when he was not interrupting or talking, he looked at McCain with his evil eyes.
Posted by: Judy | September 27, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
in my opinion Mccain came off as easily rattled and way too emotional when obama cornered him several points.Can you really trust Mccain when he wont even look his opponent in the eye.
Posted by: spaceelvis | September 27, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Obama has 143 days of Senate experience, through technicalities had everyone running against him thrown off the ballot when he ran for his Congressional seat, has former, unapologetic Underground Weathermen, and racist ministers for friends [and before you preach at me realize that my family's history dates back to the 1800's as Quakers in England who were fiercely Abolitionists] so what exactly is it that qualifies this man to aspire to be our next president? And lets not forget his association with Resko, a convicted felon. Fact is Obama is a product of the Chicago political machine. The same machine that under Mayor Daly stole the election for JFK, one of the biggest philandering Presidents this country has ever had. A man who in his naivete brought us to the brink of Nuclear war with the October Missile Crisis.
Posted by: TJ | September 27, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Lawrence…. I agree, everyone except a few undecideds, are ready to vote today. Maybe now the focus can be back on getting our economy back on track which was so much more important than a debate anyway, but at least its over. I for one decided that the one who felt that the economy was more important than the debate will get my vote over the supficial candidate.
Posted by: Brenda | September 27, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
McCain has no plan for the American people. McCain has no agenda to help the regular taxpayer.
Obama laid out his plan to help the taxpayers. He has a plan for America.
McCain looked like an angry, bitter, grumpy old Man who was ignorant and ignored both the moderator and Obama and took both his turn to speak and Obama’s also to tell Once upon a time stories that do not help the American people pay any bills. I don’t need a Storyteller !!!! I need a President who has plan to help me and my family !!!!
OBAMA for America.
Eight Years Was Too Much. America will send a message to BUSH and MCCAIN.
YOU IGNORE OUR SUFFERING AND ISSUES FOR EIGHT YEARS, WE WILL IGNORE YOU ON NOVEMBER 4TH. OBAMA/BIDEN FOR 2008
Posted by: Woman for Truth | September 28, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
I’m so happy the debate happen.
When I first hear McCain wanted to suspend it thought. No, No let’s not go this way. I’m sick of canned speeches and negative ads on TV. The reason I felt the debates are important is, I wanted to heard them both talking to the American people during this crisis and explain what “from their perspective is the right thing for us to do next”. Guys you’ve been given your first “3am call” and we’re watching how you deal with it as it’s happening real time. How lucky America is that this happened now, when we are choosing our next leader for the next four years, over four months from now.
Both McCain and Obama were together during this crisis in Washington with Bush and other members of our government. They both were given an opportunity to ask and have explained the exact elements of our financial meltdown. Given all the briefing and discussion that they were presented, they should have given us their understanding of the choices we have and where they stand on these choices. We did not get this last night. In the area, I feel both candidates lost points. Knowing this, and that McCain was the individual that he said to all of America this should be our first focus, I must concede that McCain lost the most in this area. McCain, stopped the presses, but; then fail to put the new banner across the front page. So that day’s edition, went out with a blank front page. Bush asked for his help, but instead of helping Bush by getting his party get on the any side, McCain left Washington. McCain is not helping out the American people in their time of need as he said he would do. McCain did not keep his promise to America. While I am not happy with our current President I am distressed that McCain has not truly come to his aid. I understand Obama, but McCain like it or not Bush was the candidate you supported in 2000 and 2004. The distancing of McCain from Bush at this time, shows he would rather win more that fix this current problem. McCain is running his campaign as an independent over being a Republican.
McCain is out there talking about how Obama doesn’t get it. He’s out there talking about who was right or wrong on the surge. Who cares, that is yesterday’s news. Although Obama is right, we do need to asked, knowing what we know today, was going to war in 2003 the right thing to do? We all know the answer here, No. McCain has not conceded this point, while being lost in the surge and exploiting what happen on 9/11. McCain is telling us victory is at hand. McCain, please, in basic words any high school educated person (18 and above) can understand, What is Victory? If you’re going to campaign with Victory, explain it. I would also like to know when the Victory your touting will be fully achieved. Is it 2010, 2012, or 2015? For something to be “at hand” some time window should be known.
Today, our financial structure is about to collapse right before our eyes. McCain is talking about ear marks reform over dealing with the real issue at hand. The ear marks are not the issue. It’s 18 drops in a 700 drop bucket or 3% of the problem today. I’d rather have my next leader working on fixing 97% problem over the 3% in ear marks issue. McCain you’re tripping over dollar bills to pick up three shinny copper pennies for America.
McCain, focus on what you suspended your campaign on and tell us your solution. Obama, you do the same, and tell us what you ideas you have to solve it. If you’ve both don’t have solutions to provide in this area, then don’t get involved and go back to campaign and let Washington do what they we’re all elected to do. You either part of the solution or part of the problem. Right now, it appears both of you are moving closer to being part of the problem. The problem is anyone that bought a house from 2000 forward is at risk. Your risk increases as the year goes up, until we get to around late 2006. Right now the break even point is around 2000, but it has every chance of impacting those home owners that purchased a home prior to 2000, In some areas of the country, like California, it’s already going into the late 1990’s. I hear about coming to the aid of banks because the assets on the books have drop 40% to 50%, but what is your position on the owners currently that trying to keep their home while knowing It’s worth less than what they purchased it for, and they can not sell it and break even. Break even can take five to ten years. The problem is all the Loan to Value (LTV) ratios that are now negative. The problem has nothing to do with credit worthiness of the home owner at the time of purchase. In my eyes, the fix our government should be focusing on is to re-calibrate the housing market to stop the foreclosures by addressing the LTV for homeowners impacted by this. Keep in mind that over the past 5 to 6 years many home owners that put their own money into their home watched that value get wash away and have lost everything too. They have no choice but to go into foreclosures to have this loss realized as fairly as the banks. How are we going to fix this? This is what I want both candidates to talk about.
I want you both to really debate energy and our environment. In four years what will our oil consumption be and where will it come from? What will the energy source ratios be for oil, coal, sun, wind… be in 2012. in 2020? What government standards will change to lower the oil need and help the environment? When will they take affect? OIl has record profits. McCain, please explain why oil companies should be making record profits on the US citizens backs. Why do you believe this is fair and why we shouldn’t increase their (the oil companies) taxes or close the loop holes?
During the debates talk with one another and explain why your ideas are right over why the other’s is wrong. Over the remaining days start balancing your ads to talk about how you will change America over putting out ad that exploit past statements that can be used out of context. In these remaining days get in front of the media and be interviewed. Be ready to be answer any hard questions your asked.
Posted by: lafranzo | September 28, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
McCain, doesnt have any answers, he wouldnt even look at Obama during the Campaign!Only thing McCain will bring us is another 4 years of Bush Politics.
Posted by: Demo Rules | September 28, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am