Palin’s Earmarks a ‘Bear’ of An Issue
ABC News’ Ron Claiborne reports: For the past year, Sen. John McCain has told a pretty good joke about grizzly bears to make a point about what he deems wasteful federally-funded earmark spending.
"My friends," McCain says, "we spent $3 million of your money to study the DNA of bears in Montana. "Now I don’t know if that was a paternity issue or a criminal issue, but it was a waste of money."
It turns out, the state of Alaska under Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain’s running mate, sought millions in federal funds to study the genetics of harbor seals, and gather data on halibut fisheries and sea crabs.
According to Politico, Alaska requested $3.2 million for "Seal and Stellar Sea Lion Biological Research," which would among to things be used to monitor ice seal populations in Native villages and study the "specifies delineation and genetics of harbors seals to understand the declines in populations and provide for population restoration."
The state also sought $2 million to look into Bering Sea crab productivity and sustainability" and $494,900 to collect data for an assessment of recreational halibut harvest.
In his exclusive ABC News interview with Palin, World News anchor Charles Gibson asked her about the request for federal funds to research seals.
"Those requests, through our research divisions and fish and game and our wildlife departments and our universities, those research requests did come through that system, but wanting it to be in the light of day, not behind closed doors, with lobbyists making deals with Congress to stick things in there under the public radar.," Palin said. "That’s the abuse that we’re going to stop. That’s what John McCain has promised over and over for these years."
She said, "The abuse of earmarks, it’s un-American, it’s undemocratic, and it’s not going to be accepted in a McCain-Palin administration. Earmark abuse will stop."
In 26-plus years in Congress, McCain has never sought an earmark for his home state Several earmarks received by Wasilla, Alaska while Palin was mayor of the town of 6,700 were cited on McCain’s pork list several years ago.
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You folks at ABC need to at least TRY to look like an independent news source instead of an outlet for Obama campaign propaganda.
Anybody But Obama…
Posted by: Jayhawk | September 13, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
F-uck the liberal bias at ABC News.
Posted by: Mitch | September 13, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
October Surprise? Lawsuit Claiming Obama Not a US Citizen
A Lafayette Hill lawyer who filed a legal challenge to Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential candidacy claiming he doesn’t meet U.S. residency requirements had a motion for a temporary restraining order denied Friday.
Though the motion was denied, Berg said he was encouraged that Judge R. Barclay Surrick did not dismiss the lawsuit. The litigation also sought “expedited discovery.”
http://www.phoenixvillenews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20100863&BRD=1673&PAG=461&dept_id=17915&rfi=6
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am
McCain lied. Plain and simple. It’s time the media covers issues instead of attacks, and polls. What about comparing policy positions and plans instead of who changed what logo.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Hypocrisy Unleashed: In the Earmark Game, Obama Beats McCain, $740 Million To Nothing
“Sarah Palin is a Governor who reduced her state’s earmarks by 63%, nearly 2/3rds, since taking office. It’s still high in Alaska (for reasons the article describes), but it is only a third of what it used to be.”
http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/09/08/in-the-earmark-game-obama-beats-mccain-740-million-to-nothing/
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
LightSeeker
Fact Obama was born in Hawaii a couple of years after Hawaii became a U.S. state. Fact McCain was born in Panama on a military base. McCain is more likely to be a non- citizen then Obama is.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Studying the DNA of bears in Montana, or studying the genetics of harbor seals, halibut, and sea crabs may very well be money well spent.
1. It certainly will advance our understanding of genetics generally
2. It may help us to understand how to better protect species threatened with extinction.
Both worthwhile goals.
Certainly more worthwhile to the WHOLE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES than spending hundreds of millions of dollars on “infrastructure” AKA “boondoggles” aka “earmarks” AKA “pork” in Alaska such as multiple “bridges to nowhere”, “roads to nowhere”, and million dollar sports complexes for small towns with a population hardly large enough to fill a high-school gymnasium in a rural town in the lower 48.
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I guess the point is ithe hypocrisy, and irony of McCain no claiming that, despite overwhelming evidence to the ocntrary, Gov. Palin is a “reformer”, someone who has fought to reduce wasteful government spending.
It won’t make a bit of difference. The Republican base has fallen hard for this “Joan of Arc” from Wasilla, this “Marilyn Monroe”, packing heat, this “Little Red Riding Hood” who shoots defenseless wolves from overflying helicopters, and her daughter JUNO from JUNEAU.
They don’t care about substance, they ignore hypocrisy, disturbing FACTS do not trouble them.
They are hunkered in a mental bunker untroubled by the world of facts, evidence, and real threats that the rest of us live in.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
We don’t know this woman!!! You may not like Obama, but his record has been out there for almost two years. Every single word and facial expression has been picked apart.
Isn’t it the journalists’ job to scrutinize Pallin. She is much more likely to be President if McCain wins. Is it only the media’s job to be stenographers for the campaign?
Posted by: MikeNJ | September 13, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 13, 2008 1:46:13 PM
Obama sought earmarks? I am shocked…just shocked!
Has HE ever claimed he didn’t? No, he did not. So, he is not a hypocrite.
Now which politician running in this fall’s presidential elections did claim she is against earmarks, that she said “thanks, but no thanks” and returned the money to the federal government?
Hmmm…
If I could just find out who that was then I would sure call that politician a liar and a hypocrite…out to deceive the American public about his/her real political agenda.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Lightseeker
Obama has nothing against earmarks McCain does. There are good earmarks so as for infrastructure, education, and etc. So McCains says he’ll fight earmark spending and then picks Alaska governor Palin you has ask for more earmarks per constituent, it is a little bit hypocritical.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Don’t blame ABC or the media. The fact is that the McCain campaign is dishonest and the media is just doing its role. For McCain, what goes around comes around. Period. McCain is really out of touch. I saw him on the view, he said lies regarding Palin, a proof that he doesn’t know her at all. What a dream team.
Posted by: Fred | September 13, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
I personally think it is wrong for McCain to vote against every earmark before distinguishing if it is good or not. If I earmark money to my state to help put computers in schools, McCain would vote against it because it is an “earmark”.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
If being interested in the truth is a liberal attribute, then I guess I’m liberal.
McCain/Palin bring this on themselves when they push their demonstrably false earmark talking points.
Maybe they should change the subject, if they have anything else CONSTRUCTIVE to talk about.
And maybe the haters should find another blog to troll. It just seems to put you in a bad mood. Have a good weekend.
Posted by: really | September 13, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Boy the republicans sure get testy when you try to find out things about Palin – what is it they don’t want the rest of us to find out? They spend a lot of time trying to divert attention by trash talking Obama. It’s time for the American public to open their eyes to the same old Republican tactics that got us into the mess we are currently in! For the sake of the country – Obama ’08!
Posted by: malkittens | September 13, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Posted by: MikeNJ | Sep 13, 2008 1:52:48 PM
We don’t know this woman?
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In fact, after two weeks we know quite a lot.
1. She tells naked lies about her political past.
2. She RAISED taxes on oil corporations. She returned the extra revenue directly to Alaskan citizens. Essentially, she raised the cost of oil, and at least by Republican economic logic, past the cost of that tax down to the rest of us in the lower 48. We paid that tax in higher fuel costs.
3. She is the QUEEN of pork, though she presents herself as a cost-cutter. Not when it comes to gobbling up a disproportionate slice of the federal pie for her precious Alaskan constituents.
4. She pretends to know or care about energy policy. She does not. She knows oil companies, and that’s all.
5. She pretends to have taken on oil companies. She has not, she is in their pocket fighting to get ANWR opened for drilling.
6. She pretends to know even the first thing about foreign policy, because she can “see Russia from Alaska”. Well, I can see the moon from my backyard, that doesn’t make me an Astronaut.
etc, etc.
7. She thinks she that by praying she kind influence the mind of God to support a pipeline deal she is trying to work out with Canada.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am
McCain’s proven dishonesty betrays America’s trust.
McCAIN IS UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 13, 2008, 10:04 am 10:04 am
typo:
7. She thinks that by praying she can influence the mind of God to support a pipeline deal she is trying to work out with Canada.
She actually believes that through prayer, she has POWER over the mind of god to influence to provincial pipeline deal!
Now, that’s CHUTZPAH.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
the “earmarks” the article speaks of were requested by educational institutions.
Do you guys know about the earmarks for Rezko and his slums that Obammie got for him while he was Illinois senator. Me thinks not. Can’t seem to find a ‘fair and balanced’ ABC news article on that one.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Fact: one of Arizona’s major private employers is Walmart. (There goes worker Rights)
Fact: Arizona has the largest state deficit in the country.(Hmmm?)
Fact: Arizona’s largest employer is the state government. (Big government?)
Fact: John McCain represents Arizona.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
To all you McCain/Palin supporters, as an Obama supporter I say, stop whining about the media. No one has received more negative press during the past 2 years than Obama. There are several studies that prove that fact. Obama is in the news a lot but most of it is negative. If you want to win this election argue about the issues.
Posted by: Marion | September 13, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
obamamama
Been researched – no sweetheart deals. Your way behind the curve.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
I think that McCain and Palin are REALLY Pro-Lie.
Posted by: Angela | September 13, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Lobbyists First
Maybe Country Second!
Maybe!!
Posted by: John_McCain_honerable | September 13, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Posted by: malkittens | Sep 13, 2008 2:02:29 PM
what is it they don’t want the rest of us to find out?
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They don’t know less about the candidate they have been supporting so forcefully than Democrats and Independents.
Democrats, Independents, and the non-partisan media have – Surprise – actually taken the trouble to learn about Gov. Palin’s actual record, positions, and policies.
Republicans don’t care. They want to preserve her as an Icon. They are not in the least interested to learn who she REALLY is.
We Democrats pay her more respect by actually bothering to look at her real record of accomplishments – including successes, failures, lies SHE has told about her own record, but also LIES that have been told by opponents about her record.
Palin’s most vociferous supporters live in FANTASY LAND. They don’t want that bubble burst.
Hey Palin supporters – Palin is not Santa Claus – and in any case, if you haven’t yet heard – SANTA CLAUSE IS NOT REAL.
Even if he is supposed to live somewhere up there around Juneau.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Palin Campaigned for the Bridge to Nowhere after it was already killed by Congress in 2005. She has kept 73 million of the funds still hoping to deliver a scaled down version. TPM is reporting
Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
now that Palin is a celebrity (like Paris Hilton) she’s going to be held accountable.
Posted by: Gus | September 13, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Has anyone noticed the tone of the topics for this blog?
Scan down the list of topics and see how many support Obama and Biden or try to demean John McCain and Sarah Palin.
You folks at ABC need to at least TRY to look like an independent news source instead of an outlet for Obama campaign propaganda.
Anybody But Obama…
Posted by: Jayhawk | Sep 13, 2008 1:34:55 PM
F-uck the liberal bias at ABC News.
Posted by: Mitch | Sep 13, 2008 1:40:02 PM
OH, PLEASE! It’s only like this because the McCain/Palin camp keep putting out lies and false accusations. Obama doesn’t put out statments or ads that are normally scrutanized because they’re TRUE!
The media is doing it’s job. If you don’t like it, take it up with your candidate for running false ads and picking an inexperienced running mate that no one knows ANYTHING about.
In the meantime, check out this site… see who’s running his campaign:
http://www.johnmccainrecord.com/mclobbyist
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Fact: Chicago has the third largest gross metropolitan product in the nation — approximately $440 billion according to 2007 estimates.[35] The city has also been rated as having the most balanced economy in the United States, due to its high level of diversification.
Fact: Daley kept Walmart out of Chicago by raising the minimum wage
Fact: Chicago politics may be tough but it gets things done.
Fact: Obama represents Chicago.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
obamamama (which I’m sure you’re not)…Obama (unlike most people in Congress) disclosed all his earmark information for the last couple of years (he requested none this year). In fact you can google Obama’s earmarks to find out what they were. He co-sponsored a bill with Sen. Coburn from OK to have more government transparency so that the American people could see who is asking for what. And as I’m sure you know, Alaska is the worst offender.
Posted by: Marion | September 13, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
If the DEMS lose, their life will be over (if you believe doom and gloom Obama). If the REPUBS lose, they will sit back and watch the DEMS corral their supporters and deliver nothing but the promise of change. The DEMS have used thier constituency for years, and their voters just go back for more. Hey DEMS, how’s being a DEM worked out for you so far? Just trying to help you see the light.
Posted by: Kitty | September 13, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
I hoped any reporter could ask Sarah Palin her view on issues that 60%+ Americans agree on. Would she choose the will of the people or stick to her personal/religious belief to make a decision? I think that is a real concerning part of Sarah Palin.
Posted by: aw | September 13, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Posted by: Kim | Sep 13, 2008 2:13:28 PM
Comment on alleged “bias” in headlines at ABC Political Radar favoring Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin:
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OH, PLEASE! It’s only like this because the McCain/Palin camp keep putting out lies and false accusations. Obama doesn’t put out statments or ads that are normally scrutanized because they’re TRUE!
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Kim – best post so far:-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Bush in a skirt. Deal with it.
Posted by: Bias | September 13, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Palin’s earmarks were some of the most dramatic porkers that McCain fought against. I guess he does think that if you put lipstick on a pig, it’s called reform and change.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 13, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Congress began the corrupt practice of earmarks. John McCain has promised to veto legislation that contains them. I hope the press continues to push the issue regarding Palin. It only serves to point out how corrupt our Congress is. The more attention to the issue the better.
Posted by: Nexialist | September 13, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
If the REPUBS lose…
Democrats will have a chance to put this nation’s house in order, and clean up the mess that Bush and the Republican Congress created over the past 6 of the 8 years.
If the REPUBS win…
Well, I’m going to join up quick with some Christian fundamentalist church, ’cause this time they’ll be right…
ARMAGEDDON is upon us.:-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
you really are a moron if you conflate fact checking with liberal bias. It is the all too often overlooked responsibility of the press, to check on the veracity of what politicians say. It is important to the public to know more than their PR handouts. If Palin presents herself as a crusader against pork – but – by McCain’s own standards – has been a voracious consumer of pork – that matters. That is important. that is something you can double check for yourself. McCain and Palin are simply lying to you – telling you what polls say you want to hear. You should demand more of your own candidates than that.
Posted by: nh bob | September 13, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Can somebody tell me the answer to this question. I just realize the House of Reps is responsible for financial legislation. Finance and taxes start in the House. So can Senators even propose earmarks in legislation?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Sep 13, 2008 2:26:04 PM
“Palin’s earmarks were some of the most dramatic porkers that McCain fought against. I guess he does think that if you put lipstick on a pig, it’s called reform and change.”
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LOL:-)
So true, so true…
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Congressional “earmarks” are requested
and accepted by U.S. Senators and
U.S. Congressmen and Congresswomen!
I don’t believe that a state or a
municipality can directly request an
“earmark” from the U.S. Government!
This is a bogus non-issue!
If you want a conflict between the
Presidential Candidates and the their VP
Candidates you need look no further than the fact that Obama opposed the
Iraq War and Biden voted in favor of it as did Hillary Clinton!
Posted by: reaganfan | September 13, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am
To MM – look at Palin’s mentor – Senator Ted Stevens. He was the earmark king and power broker that Palin lobbied for earmarks when she was mayor of Wasilla. Appropriations bills must start in the House – but the Senate can craft their own version and then they go to a conference committee to work out the differences.
Posted by: nh bob | September 13, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
I think earmark issue is not worth discussing as Climate Change and Fishing(one source of Income for Alaska) is an important issue to Alaska. There may be differences with McCain but she did her job to represented her people.
I think reading following statement by Palin can give you good Idea and those who care for environment and Climate change should jump up and down:
“Those requests, through our research divisions and fish and game and our wildlife departments and our universities, those research requests did come through that system, but wanting it to be in the light of day, not behind closed doors, with lobbyists making deals with Congress to stick things in there under the public radar.,” Palin said. “That’s the abuse that we’re going to stop. That’s what John McCain has promised over and over for these years
Posted by: Tim | September 13, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Saturdays must be a day off for Republican trolls….
Given their usual howling, mewling, whining, and yapping on this blog, the Palin army of trolls has fallen strangely silent…
Have the scales begun to fall from their scaly eyes?
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
But Obama and Biden are both running on the well established fact – that Obama was right about the war – they aren’t pretending that they were for the war all along. Palin was presented as a crusader against pork – when all along she has been a voracious consumer. She is running on a lie. That is a serious issue.
Posted by: nh bob | September 13, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
MM: Bills can originate in either the House or Senate and be amended in either. If two similar bills are passed, they are sent to a conference committee to iron out the differences and make a unified bill. To directly answer your question – pork can arise in either.
Problem is that earmarks are not all bad and that they represent a very tiny portion of the federal budget according to the GAO. Earmarks are the frequent target of the uninformed. More importantly, if one actually cares about curtailing spending, is Medicare and Social Security.
Posted by: 1percenter | September 13, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am
If Palin’s earmarks bother you, Obama’s must surely terrorize you. No comparison whatsoever! None!
Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
nh_hob
I get it. Senators cannot propose earmarks but they can lobby Congressman for it. I was starting to think that this entire earmark thing was fabricated on by McCain.
But McCain didn’t lie when he said he would may earmark people famous. Look at Palin; how many of you knew about her before May?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
rodney,
If you check the record you’ll find that in 18 months Palin as a Governor secured over twice the amount of money in earmarks that Obama even proposed.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
As a replubican women and a nurse I am thrilled that this organization endorsed Obama. I am sorry I do like Palin and I will can not trust her as a president.
Yesterday, the American Nurses Association officially endorsed Barack Obama for the 2008 Presidential Election. The ANA represents the interests of the nation’s 2.9 million registered nurses.
“As President, Barack Obama will bring real change to our health care system,” said ANA President Rebecca M. Patton, MSN, RN, CNOR. “Nurses are consistently voted the most trusted profession by the American people, and we, as a profession, trust that Barack Obama will see that affordable quality health care is made available to everyone.”
“I am honored to receive the endorsement of the American Nurses Association,” said Sen. Barack Obama.
“The nurses of America serve our country tirelessly, and I share their belief that we must bring affordable and accessible health care to all Americans. My plan lowers health care costs for the average American family by up to $2500 and finally makes health care work better for American families than it does for the drug and insurance companies.”
“Both Senator Obama and Senator Clinton spoke at ANA’s House of Delegates in June about the need to move forward in unity to bring about real, much needed change to our health care system, and our nursesresponded; ‘Yes we can’” Patton added. “Nurses represent the largest group of health care professionals in this country, and working together, we can use our power in the voting booth to make health care a priority, and make Barack Obama the next President of the United States.”
Senator Obama is committed to signing universal health legislation by the end of his first term in office that ensures all Americans have high-quality, affordable health care coverage. Barack Obama recognizes that nurses play a critical role in every aspect of patient care, and the nursing shortage ranks as one of the most pressing issues facing our health care system. Obama’s health care plan includes expanded funding to improve the primary care and public health practitioner workforce; including loan repayments, improved reimbursement and training grants.
Barack Obama has a history of advocacy for nurses and patients. In the Illinois senate, he helped lead efforts to protect nurses and improve the quality of health care. In the U.S. Senate, he cosponsored the Safe Nursing and Patient Care Act, which limits mandatory overtime for nurses to true emergency situations, and as President, he has promised to sign this important legislation into law.
ANA has been making presidential endorsements since 1984. The endorsement process includes sending a questionnaire on nursing and health care issues to all of the Democratic and Republican candidates, an invitation to all of the democratic and republican candidates for a personal interview and an online survey of ANA’s membership regarding which candidate is most supportive of nursing’s agenda.
Posted by: Barbra L leonard | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
PAlin is a desperate hail mary pass to try and win the election. The McPalin ticket is about winning by any cost necessary and nothing more. The debates will really be telling, to see who sticks to issues and who delivers attacks instead of substance. I the majority of McPalin’s answers will, instead of stating his own position, will begin with “My opponent wants to…..”
Posted by: Jason | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Posted by: reaganfan | Sep 13, 2008 2:30:00 PM
Obama opposed the
Iraq War and Biden voted in favor of it as did Hillary Clinton?
When did Hillary and Joe vote “in favor of going to war with Iraq”.
As I recall, they voted in favor of allowing Pres. Bush the OPTION of going to war at a time of his choosing.
That’s no more voting in favor of going to war in Iraq, then Sarah Palin saying the the WAR in Iraq was God’s will.
The decision to go to war was Pres. Bush’s and his alone.
As it should be, as President he is the Commander-in-Chief.
He just happened to make the wrong decision. Obama was right about that.:-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Hillary supporters should support McCain/Palin. If Obama wins, Hillary will not have a solid position in DEM. Obama, Kenndy and Blacks will dominate the party. Hillary will never has a chance to run again!!!
Think about it!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Hillary supporters should support McCain/Palin. If Obama wins, Hillary will not have a solid position in DEM. Obama, Kenndy and Blacks will dominate the party. Hillary will never has a chance to run again!!!
Think about it!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
My favorite part of Palin’s backtracking on the “Bridge to Nowhere” was how she said she was for it until the federal government wouldn’t fund it and then, of course, Alaska wouldn’t fund it.
Thanks for spending my tax money. I’m sure she will spend more on a much needed copy of “World politics for Dummies”.
Posted by: Bias | September 13, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Leonard Peltier
Keep making facts up. It will make you feel better, I suppose.
Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Ditto to Jayhawk- ABC is just another liberal network. And Charlie is another lover of Obama- check out the interview Charlie had with Obama VS Palin- Jesus he just licked Obama ass.
ALL of you Libs deserve Obama- your all nuts. And your a disgrace to America and the Constitution.
God help you.
Posted by: suz | September 13, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
So to Tim – the quote from the ABC interview that you present as a defense of Palin – is essentially a defense of earmarks – Palin is saying that if you look at some of requests closely – like some of the requests that McCain has made fun of in the past – they are for things that we should be doing that help our people and help our economy. Not even close to what McCain claims – he says no earmarks will get past his desk – none – nada – so according to Palin – McCain is wrong. That’s great – no matter what you believe is true – vote for them!!
Posted by: nh bob | September 13, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Rodney…
“If Palin’s earmarks bother you, Obama’s must surely terrorize you. No comparison whatsoever! None!”
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Rodney, Rodney, Rodney….
Take a deep breathe.
We are taking Gov. Palin to task here because she HAS LIED about not taking earmarks. She is presenting a false picture of her record to the American public.
Whether or not any of her earmarks were money well-spent is another question all together.
Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t.
What IS NOT at issue, is that she is a LIAR.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
obama USE THE EMARK TO INCREASE MITCHEL’S SALARY!!!
THINK ABOUT IT!!!! THAT IS A REAL CORRUPTION.
Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
McCain and Palin are the PRO-LIE party.
Posted by: Angela | September 13, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
obama USE THE EMARK TO INCREASE MITCHEL’S SALARY!!!
THINK ABOUT IT!!!! THAT IS A REAL CORRUPTION.
Posted by: kerry | September 13, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Tell the truth: isnt’ it the media’s job to tell the truth, not to present “both sides of a story” ? If McCain said the moon was made of green cheese shouldn’t the media say “McCain has gone nuts” rather than “opinions about the moon differ”. Well, McCain has gone nuts.. that or he has just turned into a pathalogical liar. His campaign just continues to repeat things that are easily seen to be lies.
Against earmarks? Palin has more earmarks per capita than any other state.
Change? McCain has exactly the same policies as bush.
I mean, how many times can McCain say something that is just plain false and the media lets him get away with is.
Posted by: JJ | September 13, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
If the Dems lose this election it won’t be so much a reflection on the Dems but a reflection on what America really stands for. If the majority wants another 8 years of Bush, another 8 years of isolation as our ideology continues to turn our Allies off, another 8 years of destroying the middle class.We will reap what we sow.This is not the America I want.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Has Obama stoppped running that despicable ad about computer iiliteracy? You would think a guy who touts being techno savvy could have googled. Hey Obama google McCain and keyboard and you will see what a low-life piece of trash you are. If you support Obama after this disturbing ad then you are just like him.
Posted by: Kitty | September 13, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
ALL of you Libs deserve Obama – your all nuts. And your a disgrace to America and the Constitution.
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I’m an “independent”…what do I deserve?
Please, I want my prize too.:-)
Can I disgrace America & the Constitution, too. Please?
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Excuse me, but when did legitimate oversight of candidates become a sign of “media bias”?
We’ve been presented a candidate who clearly doesn’t have even a basic understanding of national issues. Is the media supposed to ignore her ignorance? Are we supposed to not pay attention when the things she says so clearly contradict her record?
I mean, what kind of country do you people want to live in?
Posted by: Rick | September 13, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Dear Suz – so you hate most of America do you? Your Republicans have given us: 9-11, No WMD’s, the disaster of the war in Iraq, mission accomplished, Good job brownie, Abu Gahrib, Gitmo, torture, Katrina, job losses, an increase in poverty, an increase in inflation, stagnant wages, the housing crisis, the oil crisis, the mortgage crisis, Bin Laden still living, record foreclosures, Jack Abramoff, Ted Stevens, the K-street project, suspension of habeas corpus, astronomical deficits, a falling dollar, and a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the ruling elite. And you don’t even have the decency to say “I’m sorry” or “My bad”. You should not be allowed to use sharp tools without adult supervision.
Posted by: nh bob | September 13, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
McCain is for Obesity, gang violence,and uneducated lawyers. I’m sure he voted against every single one of Obama’s earmarks.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Posted by: kerry | Sep 13, 2008 2:41:48 PM
obama USE THE EMARK TO INCREASE MITCHEL’S SALARY!!!
THINK ABOUT IT!!!! THAT IS A REAL CORRUPTION.
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Clearly a McCain supporter as yet not fully comfortable with email and the internet.
Kerry, welcome to the internets..,
A few tips:
1. When posting on a blog: CAPITAL LETTERS INDICATE YOU ARE SHOUTING!!!!!!!
Are you shouting?
2. You may resort to capital letters judiciously to indicate EMPHASIS!
As in, McCain & Palin are LIARS & SLEAZE MERCHANTS….(just an example).
3. Spelling errors, errors in punctuation, and slips of grammar are to be expected when typing and posting hasty responses. I for one, generally ignore them in others, and hope for the same courtesy from them.
However, too many misspellings, grammatical errors undermine your own message. Consider using something called SPELL CHECK, to at least check your spelling.
Otherwise…
Welcome aboard:-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
As far as despicable ads go…just go to any of the independent watchdog groups like “FactCheck.com”. These groups are nonpartisan and have always kept very neutral in elections. They are just keepers to the facts, referees if you will.
In the last few weeks they have cried foul about many of McCain’s ads. Basically saying that he is simply spouting bullsh$t.
Yes, I can hear all you right wing fanboys now “THEY ARE BIASED!” but look at their record of keeping to the center! They are as honest a bunch of judges as it comes.
The problem is not the referees, the problem is the Mccain campaign has turned to simply throwing made up mud. The american public will see this and reject him.
Posted by: Dispicable | September 13, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Kitty
Compare attacks … McCain is old vs Obama is for child sex ed.
Compare truth … McCain is old vs McCain seriously distorting Obama’s record.
I think McCain had it coming.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
What happened to McCain’s promise to run an honest and respectable campaign and not to resort to throwing mud?
Guess that went out the window when the straight-talk express derailed.
Posted by: straighttalk | September 13, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
I love how ‘liberal’ has somehow become some kind of epithet. I mean if not for liberals, we’d have had no Declaration of independence, no Constitution, no Revolution. No end to slavery, no civil rights, no innovation. The conservatives have always been against these radical new ideas that have provided every advancement of american society. The largest terrorist attack in our history happened on the watch of the Republicans. Tey to blame Clinton all you like, but Bush had been in charge for 9 months. He bungled and let it happen, and has been bungling everything since. The war, the current state of the economy (thank you for mortgage deregulation and the push for 100% financing Pres. Bush), the debt – 10-15 BILLION a MONTH on the war on credit. No actual progress on the war on terror except to dramatically increase terrorist recruitment through random middle east invasion and torture. The current administration has been criminally incompetent. President Bush has completely befouled his oath. McPalin wants to change nothing, he firmly stands behind every position. Taxes, the war, economy. Wants to continue or increase the impact of every policy. McPalin wants to tell you who you can marry, what you can do with your body and that corporations will know better what to do with your money than you do.
Posted by: Jason | September 13, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Candidates resort to throwing mud when they see that they are losing ground when they talk about the issues.
McCain is losing on policy arguments because his policies are exactly the same as Bush’s policies and he tries to call himself the candidate of change. Everyone knows Bush is unpopular, and McCain would just continue the same discredited path.
So instead of talking about issues, McCain throws mud and tries to change the topic into “Obama wants sex ed for kindergarten”. A made-up non-issue.
The sad thing is that mudslinging in this country seems to work. it worked for Bush in 00, and in 04. It will probably work for Mccain too. Well, too bad for our country if we fall for this again. See where it got us over the last eight years.
Posted by: IssuesVoter | September 13, 2008, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Under President Clinton, America had friends among nations.
Under the wild bush-McCaint, has had one FAILURE after another, BOTH on the national and international level.
Maniac muslim terrorists were allowed liberty in Afghanistan-Pakistan
Insane islamists were generated by bad bush-McCaint policy in Iraq.
Iraq is more unstable; Iran is stronger and more determined.
Ally Pakistan is weaker, while insane islamic terrorists continue to multiply in ever-increasing numbers.
Ally Georgia is much much weaker and Russia is stronger.
Tensions are increasing in Latin America on account of the VISION-LESS and overbearing policies of a wild bush-McCaint.
The unintelligent and INTEMPERATE McCaint is even worse than his double, bush.
And Sarah Pollen is truly a waste of time. Greedy lobbyist would run America further into the ground under McCain-Pollen.
McCaint means MORE WARS; because the man lacks vision & good judgment!
Posted by: Patriot | September 13, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Despite every effort to divert attention AWAY FROM OBAMA, he just keeps slipping. Could it possibly be because he’s so shallow and his supporters can’t think of anything positive to say about him?
Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Bias By Omission: The Entire Gibson/Palin Interview (Unedited)
http://marklevinshow.com/gibson-interview/
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Was Obama’s Freudian slip about his MUSLIM faith the WRIGHT thing to say???
Posted by: dl | September 13, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Shame on the Democrat led Congress, for doing nothing
for the past months and just blaming other for their incompetence
regarding our ennergy crisis and let me add the economy too, President Bush
for years has been shouting for alternative energy like Solar, Wind and Nuclear energy
so we do not have to be dependent on foriegn energy but Democrat
San Francisco’s Nancy Pelosi and Democrat Nevada’s Harry Reid
just keeping on blocking the bill. This is the same Congress and the same party
that Obama belongs to, The DNC(Do Nothing Congess) the worse Congress in US history!!
Posted by: 2nfer | September 13, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
The Berg Lawsuit Against Obama
Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a “natural born” citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.
Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.
The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.
http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Obama:
Illegitimate child
Illegitimate candidate
Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Rodney has Troll duty today for the Repugs.
Posted by: JJ | September 13, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
You know, it’s about time the main stream media finally started reporting the truth about McCain’s lying, his gaffes and his bad judgement, not to mention his campaign being run by the Karl Rove smear machine. McCain only picked Palin for her gender, to try and get the women voters. How pathetic. Then on top of that, he’s pawning himself and her off as reformer superheroes who’ll rid Washington of earmarks. Gimme a break. He’s the ultimate insider opportunist who flip flops at the drop of a hat, and she’s asked for more pork per capita than any other governor in this country! Then they blatently lie about it. And when called on it, they lie some more! Is this the kind of President we want in the White House? Haven’t we all had enough with Bush/Cheney lying to us for the last 8 years? We don’t need a McCain/Palin lying administration.
Posted by: Joanne Young | September 13, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
LightSeeker
She sidestep alot more then they made her out to be. Who are you trying to help?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
-nh bob, I have never suggested vote for Mc Cain or Obama.
Palin did job to present her case.
McCain is the nominated for President and not Palin.
So, if the MC Cain do not want earmark, so be it. There is no connection between the Palin’s past request and Mc Cains stand for his Presidency in future.
Posted by: Tim | September 13, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Jason:
Liberal and Democrat do not mean what they used to. Both have been hijacked by the extreme left.
You said: “McPalin wants to tell you who you can marry, what you can do with your body and that corporations will know better what to do with your money than you do.”
And liberals aren’t trying to redefine marriage by using the court to override the will of the people to ram it down our throat?
Liberals aren’t trying to tell us what to do with our bodies by promoting abortion/partial birth abortion overriding the will of the people and using the court to ram it down our throats?
Liberals aren’t gloating about Robin Hoodness? Taking from the rich and give to the lazy?
Get real.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
LightSeeker
Obama born in Hawaii 2 years after Hawaii became a state. Obama Sr. came to the U.S. not the other way around.
McCain born in Panama on a military base.
McCain is more likely to be challenged as a united states citizen.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
To all who are griping that ABC News is biased. Here is a solution: Stop Reading it. Otherwise, your complaints are falling on deaf ears.
Posted by: lafayetteCaj | September 13, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
Media is bias but not towards any campaign. They are bias to ratings. Issues are boring, so they don’t cover them.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Obamamama, You want to tell people what to do. You dig that. Abortion Rights is about freedom to do as you wish, its not about making people have abortions, its about allowing people that freedom and you dont want that. The will of the people? Your nuts! And as far as marriage, they only want the freedom to be the same, and you want to stop them from that, so you again are against freedom. And the “Robin Hoodness” I dont know what to say about that except that if somebody is gonna get robbed from, I would prefer it be the ones that can most afford it. You want the opposite. Thats a conservative for ya.
Posted by: Bobba | September 13, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Palin has lied about the bridge to nowhere.
Palin = Plain
McCain = McSame
McSame/Plain
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Republican tax guru Greenspan does NOT support McCain’s tax policy.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Marion: The Alaska earmarks are based on “per capita” – So, let’s compare apples to apples when comparing Obama/Palin/whomever else earmarks.
Bobba:
The gal who was originally in the actual Roe vs Wade court case had her baby.
“Abortion rights” = “Murder Rights” Call it what it is. Say what it is. Say, I have the right to murder my baby any time during my pregnancy without the baby having anesthesia (since it feels pain). Say it.
If gays want the freedom to be the same, they NEED TO BE THE SAME: ONE MAN ONE WOMAN. GOD created the institution of marriage, not the courts, so in line with your “separation of church and state” which you twist, get out of our BIBLE!
“Ones that can most afford it.” Obama’s exact words. Suck the profit from those who have worked hard to achieve the american dream only to give it to those who feel they are entitled to it. That’s a liberal for ya.
Stats are over 70% for both abortion, gay marriage issues that Americans are against it. That’s why liberals take it to the courts where they have elected liberal judges and that’s why you fear conservative judges on the Supreme Court.
Really think about it Bobba; you are accusing conservatives of the VERY THING liberals do.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
When the dust had settled and the bridge to nowhere was analyzed, who voted ‘yes’ to continue it and who voted ‘no’.
Obama: yes
Biden: yes
McCain: no
Palin: no
You cannot change history!
Posted by: dl | September 13, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
I’d rather spend a couple million studying wildlife than $750 billion on the “Iraq War to Nowhere.”
Posted by: Deputy_Bob | September 13, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
MM – THANKS for the link, I’ve bookmarked it and find the first earmark request really interesting. Something about gene study, DNA, etc for agriculture to an educational institution. Hmmm. Same thing Sarah Palin is being blasted about.
Thanks!
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
dl
Wrong the correct answer:
Obama: yes
Biden: yes
McCain: no
Palin: Yes, then no
McCain votes no to earmarks for gang prevention. So take his earmark votes with a grain of salt. He hears earmark and votes no. He doesn’t separate good or bad earmarks. He just no earmarks.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I no longer watch or listen to ABC, NBC, or MSNBC. My network of choice is now FOX. We might as well bury our “news” services, they are beyond dead.
Posted by: justme | September 13, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
MM – Exactly, McCain “represents” Arizona, he doesn’t “govern” it. They have a “Governor”, you know, like Governor Palin (not “former mayor”) as some libs like to reference her.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
obamamama
Analyzing DNA of livestock agriculture to improve food production is an everyday practice in agriculture states like Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin. Purdue University in the Republican state Indiana is the leading field of agricultural engineering. Know what your talking about before you blog.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
obamamama
Maybe McCain can earmark money to help pay off the states dept. McCain is responsible for the lives of his constituents. McCain is suppose to be a public servant.
Palin is a former mayor.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Someone here notes that Obama requested $750 million in earmarks for Illinois over three years versus Palin’s request for $200 million for Alaska this year.
The difference when divided by years and population is:
Obama: $19 per Illinois citizen
Palin: $285 per Alaska citizen
McCain/Palin are not fiscal conservatives. While plans from both Obama and McCain (www.usbudgetwatch.org) would increase the federal debt, McCain’s plan is about 30% more fiscally irresponsible than Obama’s. No one making less than $250,000 per year would pay more under either plan.
Posted by: Ben | September 13, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
MM, nope, the law for people born abroad is you are a citizen if you are born to two US citizens. Nice try.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Ben
They also forget to analyze the substance of the earmarks. Something McCain doesn’t do.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
obamamama
The law also states if you were born on U.S. soil you are a American citizen. This includes military bases, embassies, and Hawaii.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Barbara Leonard, The ANA Messiah endorsement loses a bit of it’s awe due to the fact that this site (ABC NEWS) had an article in June of this year in which they first endorsed Hillary, but she called on them to endorse Obammie. Big whoop, AFSCME and other large, democratic centered organizatinos did the same thing.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Exactly, Mr. Obama was apparently born in the new state of Hawaii to an atheistic US citizen impregated by an Indonesian Muslim student. Shortly thereafter his mother, Stanley, took Barry to be with his Indonesian Muslim stepfather in Indonesia where he attented a Muslim public school.
How does that compare to McCain being born on a U.S military base to two US Citizens with a multi-generational distinguished military history. Only someone with contempt for military service would attempt to minimize the honor of US citizenship to a child born of military parents in a foreign nation.
We are at war against an extremist Muslim ideology. Our military families are on the front line.
God save America from the this “Obama Doctrine”.
Posted by: David Leland | September 13, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Who cares…move on. Why all the headlines slanted against McCain/Palin…come on ABC, you can at least pretend to be professional journalists….and not pro lib. B. Hussein campaign in trouble..guy of change and old politics as usual Biden having a rough time of it.
COUNTRY FIRST…McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
obamamama
You consider unions Democratic. Unions are the reason for child labor laws. unions have fought and die in some cases for workers rights. I like to look to the union less underpaid wage workers of Walmart as a example of why we need unions. Unions are American and belong to no party.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
David Leland…Obama makes Muslim slips…57 states (Islamic), and last Sunday with George Stephenopolis when saying my “Muslim faith” and George had to correct him with “you mean Christian faith”.
Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
MM, yes, and if that’s Obammie’s case, then he doesn’t have a worry. Do you know anything about the phony birth certificate that was circulating on the net and what that was about?
Like the abuse of Sarah Palin regarding the paternity of her son, maybe republicans should demand DNA from Obammie and his mammie.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Obama had 932 mill in earmarks…McCain has zero.
Go McCain!
Posted by: Debra | September 13, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
obamamama-
the will of the people is not the law of the land, the law is not in place to enforce the majority but to protect the minority. marriage should be defined as loosely as possible by the state, 2 or more consenting adults – period. If you don’t like it, stick to your own definition of marriage just don’t force me to adhere to your belief. Liberal don’t promote abortion, they promote choice, and no one would require you to have one if you decide that that is not for you.
I take deep offense that you would call a lot of people who work long hours for low wages trying to make ends meet, lazy. They do most of the work that keeps this entire country functioning yet conservatives want to dismiss them as lazy. There are a very small percentage of people that game the system, their always has been and always will be, I don’t see you conservatives going after CEO’s with multimillion dollar bonuses from bankrupt companies. The conservative point of view is to take from the poor and give to the rich, with the promise that the poor might stay employed.
The reason we have a constituiton is to prevent a simple majority as necessary to pass laws.
Posted by: Jason | September 13, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
Lie Update from the McCain Campaign
Palin has told countless media that she has traveled to Iraq. However, today’s Boston Globe confirmed with her campaign that she lied and never visited Iraq. She went to Kuwait, and never ventured across the border into Iraq.
That means, Palin had never been outside of North America until last year. In 2007, she visited Canada, her neighbor, for the first time. And, last year, she went to Germany and Kuwait to see Alaska’s troops there.
She must be the least travelled VP nominee in history. Pathetic! Oh, but she can see Russia from Alaska. That’s sure impressive, and should mean she can get college credit for “Russian Studies.”
See Boston Globe story at:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/09/13/palin_camp_clarifies_extent_of_iraq_trip/
McCain and Palin: don’t trust them.
Posted by: John Michael | September 13, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
MM – I belong to a Union and so does my husband. Many conservatives do and we are proud of those unions. I understand the history and the fights the unions have made on worker’s rights and in this great country of ours, maybe Walmart employees can organize. Who knows if Walmart will recognize the union and employ them? They, in this great country of ours have a right to reject unions as well.
Unions were primarily formed decades ago when the Democratic party had conservative values. This is no longer true and where many unions are concerned, they endorse the democratic ticket blindly. Do you know of any unions which endorse republicans? If so, do tell.
Conservatives take issue that our union dues are given to parties which we do not support; it’s a sticky situation.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
What exactly did Obama accomplish as a Community Organizer? What is the measure of success? Any records to fall back on? I find it funny Palin was grilled on almost every issue and I have not seen such an in depth look into Obama’s records as Comm. Org. or his records in the state senate. The last time I checked, he indicated there is no record keeping in state senate.
Posted by: zeferimus | September 13, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
“Obama had 932 mill in earmarks…McCain has zero.”
Who cares? It’s McCain and Palin that are running on the anti-earmark ticket, not Obama/Biden. And anway your VP candidate gets 10 times more earmarks per capita than Obama. Talk about motes and beams.
Posted by: Charlie | September 13, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Debra
That is troubling McCain never earmarked to help Arizona schools or improve the lives of Arizona citizens.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
obamamama
Take a leadership position in your union and make yourself herd. You can’t blame that on Obama.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
John Michael,
I could have sworn I heard, on the liberal media, that Palin “didn’t have a passport” and has never traveled to another country, therefore, is not qualified about foreign policy.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Let’s make this clear:
– every governor and mayor seeks a piece of the federal budget pie, to get money and resources for their state, it’s what they’re supposed to do.
– what mcCain is trying to fight is abuse.
– Palin decreased earmarks significantly in her term
– Obama and Biden have requested hundreds of millions of earmarks for their states. Strangely, ABC never seems to mention this, why?
– No matter what you say, it was Palin who stopped the bridge to nowhere.
– meanwhile, Obama and Biden voted FOR the funds to the Bridge to Nowhere…you notice how their campaign doesn’t bring it up anymore, now that news got out? Not only that, there was a Coburn amendment that was to channel those funds to Katrina victims…Obama and Biden voted AGAINST THAT.
— Got that? Obama and Biden did NOT want to help the victims of Katrina, one of our worst natural disasters. This is fact. They are scum.
Is this the “change” they keep touting? No thanks.
Fight for America, fight for Good change.
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 13, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
justme,
Congratulations on only watching FIX News. You are now officially in the all-spin Conservative Republican zone.
Pro-McCain, 24/7. If you lived in Russia, I imagine you would live Putin, too.
Get a life.
Posted by: Thomas Michael | September 13, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
zeferimus
What did McCain do as a military servant other than being a POW?
Questioning community service is like questioning military service. You don’t do it.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Who cares…move on. Why all the headlines slanted against McCain/Palin…come on ABC, you can at least pretend to be professional journalists….and not pro lib. B. Hussein campaign in trouble..guy of change and old politics as usual Biden having a rough time of it.
COUNTRY FIRST…McCAIN/PALIN!
Posted by: Debra | Sep 13, 2008 3:58:19 PM
OH, PLEASE! It’s only like this because the McCain/Palin camp keep putting out lies and false accusations. Obama doesn’t put out statments or ads that are normally scrutanized because they’re TRUE!
The media is doing it’s job. If you don’t like it, take it up with your candidate for running false ads and picking an inexperienced running mate that no one knows ANYTHING about.
In the meantime, check out this site… see who’s running his campaign:
http://www.johnmccainrecord.com/mclobbyist
You’re such a troll Debra. Always see you on here spreading smears. Just another Republican who doesn’t want to talk REAL ISSUES!
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
decentAmerican
The O/B camp never brought it up the media did. Then the media attack it.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
If you missed it, the Associated Press reported that Alaska is the….
Largest Per-Capita State User of
Federal Earmarks
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1117704&srvc=2008campaign&position=7
Way to go Sarah, and totally in contradiction to McBush’s beliefs!
Posted by: George Michael | September 13, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
McCain has a Enron lobbyist.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
What ever happen to McCain’s lobbyist purge?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
— Got that? Obama and Biden did NOT want to help the victims of Katrina, one of our worst natural disasters. This is fact. They are scum.
Is this the “change” they keep touting? No thanks.
Fight for America, fight for Good change.
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 4:12:01 PM
HAHA, Did you forget McCain and Bush were clebrating with a birthday cake when Katrina made landfall ??
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
There is nothing wrong with a governor trying to get earmarks.
The big problem with that bridge was that it was for NOTHING, it was to help Ted Stevens friends. A stupid project that made no sense.
There is nothing wrong with a governor trying to help her people. It is expected.
The big problem is the Fed Govt sending money that they Don’t have. No earmarks when we have record deficits.
Posted by: steve | September 13, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
to LightSeeker – Idiot, do not spread false, read reliable sources.
Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 13, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
decentAmerican
Obama propose theese bills that never made it out of committee.
Hurricane Katrina Emergency Health Workforce Act of 2005
Hurricane Katrina Fast-Track Refunds for Working Families Act of 2005
National Emergency Family Locator Act
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Republican Party to American Citizens:
YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE,
YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE
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The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.
“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.
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Now here’s the most outrageous aspect of this attempt on the part of the Republican Party to disenfranchise voters.
The GOP, THE VERY PARTY that did nothing to prevent the current housing crisis, that is doing nothing to help people affected by it, is going to use foreclosure lists in order to keep people from voting them out of office!
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THERE’S MORE:
In Ohio, Doug Preisse, director of elections in Franklin County, around Columbus, the chair of the local GOP, told The Columbus Dispatch that he
“has not ruled out challenging voters before the election due to foreclosure-related address issues.”
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
decentAmerican,
you are quite right in saying that Obama and Biden are as guilty in terms of taking earmarks as their opponents.
But that is not the point. It is only the republicans that are running on an anti-earmark ticket. McCain is anti-earmark – he does not regard ANY type of earmark as a useful way to spend taxpayer’s money.
Nevertheless, he has put on his ticket a woman who, for example, defended her request (2008) for federal funds to study seals and crabs even though McCain has for years ridiculed this type of earmark (I’m sure you know his joke about the earmark for studying bears).
So to be clear: it’s not about earmarks, it’s about hypocrisy
Posted by: Charlie | September 13, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Well, GOP, with Liars McWar and Pit Bull,You can not see obviuos truth?
Keep Your eyes close, fooled Idiots of GOP.
Posted by: Linda,Fl | September 13, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Obama should start running a series of “Where’s Waldo” ads, or “What Ever Happened to John McCain”.
Sarah Palin has eclipsed him. It seems everyone, especially Republicans, have forgotten that HE not Sarah Palin, is running for President.
So, “Where’s Johnny”?
Voice over:
the last we heard of John McCain he was lost in the Alaskan Tundra and hadn’t been heard from in two weeks.
Overhead shots of the barren Alaskan Wilderness…hunting parties scouring the wilderness, hunting dogs baying as the rush forward searching…searching…but John McCain has disappeared without a trace.
Lost…the search continues, the country waits with baited breathe to hear the terrible news….he cannot be found.
Searchers discover a uninhabited encampment, tents empty, almost completly hidden under drifts of snow.
Inside one of the tents they find a diary…John McCain’s diary!
The last entry:
“I hear footsteps outside my tent. Someone cocks a rifle. A woman’s voice…
“John…John…are you in there? Its the pitbull! Come out, Come out where ever you are…”
This is where the diary ends.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
MM,
In case you are not aware, McCain commandered the largest squadron in the navy. In that capacity, he was responsible for the lives of the men and woman under his command. If that alone is not noteworthy, I don’t know what is? My reference to C.O. job Obama had was not to denigrate it. We here about his role all the time but no one has ever gone into details as to what exactly he did. That begs for answers!
Posted by: zeferimus | September 13, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
How many lies does it take McCaine and Palin to tell before Republican’s can say they are ashamed of them. This so stupid for American’s to vote for a pair of liers just to win. This is one of the reasons our Nation is in such bad way. They lie to your face and you vote for them, I guess if your son or daughter lied to you smile at them and pat them on the back you are so proud. Open up your eyes before it’s to late. OBAMA/BIDEN 08
Posted by: Betsy | September 13, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Doug wrote:
(Why doesn’t ABC News quit pointing out the half-lies and semi-hypocrisy of the Palin/McCain campaign. They are no reflection on how we will run the country.)
??? No reflection on how they will run the country?
Doug, you’ve got to be kidding. Once a liar, always a liar! McCain has no qualms about lying through his teeth to get into office. What makes you think he’d have any problem lying to us about every slimy thing he’d come up with throughout a McCain/Palin term in office? No integrity…just like Bush. Joined at the hip.
Posted by: Joanne Young | September 13, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
zeferimus
You haven’t been paying attention. Job training, working the neighborhood with churches. Getting new jobs to laid off blue collar workers. The republicans have demonize community service and have open the door to people looking down on them. Just like they did with immigrants.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
What does it say about you Mr McCain that in order to win this election you sold your soul? You sold it to the same 2 men who brought you down in S Carolina with the smear tactics against your adopted daughter. The same 2 that have given us Palin to satisfy the religious right in your party.No matters what happens in this election…everything you ever stood for is gone.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Obama had 932 mill in earmarks…McCain has zero.
Go McCain!
Posted by: Debra | Sep 13, 2008 4:03:44 PM
Why do you Republicans continue to lie.
Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. Last year, he asked for $311 million worth, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska asked this year for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_palin
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
zeferimus
McCain also was a terrible pilot, but that never gets mention.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Jayhawk says “Scan down the list of topics and see how many support Obama and Biden or try to demean John McCain and Sarah Palin.”
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Here is what I found:
Onama and Biden. They are scum.
Post on Obama’s “phony birth certificate”
“demand DNA from Abammie and his Mammie”
Obama a muslim
Obama not a US citizen
Obama and illegitamate child
All of us Libs are nust and a disgrace to America and the Constitution.
Yes, that’s what I found – The extent of the post against McCain/Palin are that they lie and I hate to tell you that has proven to be TRUE. Please GO FIND A MIRROR!
Posted by: Paige | September 13, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Second series of Ads….
A deep resonant male voice intones…
“Sarah Palin for President!”
She took on the Republican establishment in her own home state…
She raised taxes on oil companies in her own state and then sent back thousands of dollars in windfall tax-revenues to her Alaskan constituents…
She secured hundreds of millions dollars in federal earmarks and other pork for the State of Alaska.
Let Sarah Palin do for the rest of the country what she did for the residents of Alaska.
All American’s could quit their jobs and live of government welfare checks.
No one would have to work anymore. The oil companies and federal government would pay for everything.
VOTE Sarah Palin for President.
She’s a pitbull with lipstick.
She’ll get the job done, so the rest of us don’t have to work!
(whisper)
“I wonder who’d make a good Vice-President?”
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I, Sarah Palin, approved this message.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
McCain is a liar and is now teaching Palin how to lie and run neagitives campaign. They definitely lose this election. We are aware of the tactics they are planninig to do but all will be in vain.NOT THIS TIME LIAR, NOT THIS YEAR.
Posted by: I.A.T smith | September 13, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Jayhawk- Also- the ABC BLOGS – they are reporting news so when Palin finally decided to speak, they reported it, thus more “official” Blog titles their direction. Also, the media is having to do what McCain could not do for himself – Vet her.
Posted by: Paige | September 13, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Didn’t Churchill say that there are
“Lies, Damn Lies and McCain Lies”?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
McCain is a liar and is now teaching Palin how to lie and run negatives campaign. They will definitely lose this election. We are aware of the tactics they are planninig to do but all will be in vain.NOT THIS TIME LIAR, NOT THIS YEAR.
Posted by: I.A.T smith | September 13, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
This is what the McCain camp is turning into.
Vote McCain/Palin – Obama eats babies.
Vote McCain/Palin – Obama is secretly a pack of wolves.
Vote McCain/Palin – Obama served the community.
Vote McCain/Palin – Obama voted present 3.2% of the time in Illinois Senate.
Vote McCain/Palin – We lie to your face.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
“Sarah Palin for President”
Reform Washington NOW!
Send all those corrupt Senators and Congressman who’ve been running Washington for the last 30 years packing.
Those “belt-way” boys who think the liberal media is “their base”. Guys like Senator McCain, who are in the pockets of Washington lobbyists.
Throw out the bums.
Reform NOW!
Vote Sarah Palin for President
Its time we change things for a change, and that change is the kind of change that Sarah Palin intends to change.
Vote change!
Vote Sarah Palin for President.
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I, Sarah Palin, approved this message.
I’m currently accepting any and all suggestions on potential vice-presidential running mates.
Just don’t suggest Sen. John McCain – he’s exactly the kind of crusty old, inside the beltway, establishment guy I want to throw out.
Posted by: Palin for President | September 13, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
MM
Just look at the way the records of Palin is open to the public. Everyone has access talking, writing about it. I am not interested in platitudes. I am looking for Verifiable proof! Why did McCain stay in the navy if he was such a bad pilot and why was he ranked Lt. Commander if he was that bad?
Posted by: zeferimus | September 13, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Posted by: MM | Sep 13, 2008 4:37:03 PM
Yep that about sums up the Republicans….lol
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Paige
This is what I know. Obama’s Mama died of cancer. Obama was born in Hawaii and his birth certificate issue by the State of Hawaii proves it. McCain was born outside the country. Some people are just in it to smear it. Obama is an American citizen no ifs ands or buts about it.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
I guess now instead of ‘A noun, a verb and POW’ which has become McCain’s excuse for everything, it’s ‘A noun, a verb and a LIE’. He’s lied about so many things, it makes me wonder if his POW story was a lie too. I know that the POW Christmas cross story he told at the Saddleback church was a lie. They proved that right after the forum. So nothing is sacred to McCain. Heaven help us if the same lemmings who voted for Bush twice, blindly put McCain in office. Our country can’t survive another 4 years like the last 8.
Posted by: Joanne Young | September 13, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
McCAIN = PROVEN LIAR
LIAR = UNTRUSTWORTHY
McCAIN = UNTRUSTWORTHY
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 13, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Democrats might take heart in the fact that Sarah Palin has completely eclipsed John McCain.
Basically, no one cared much for him before he selected Sarah Palin to be his running-mate, certainly not Republicans.
After he selected Sarah Palin, everyone has completely forgotten him.
On voting day, the vast majority won’t even realize he’s running for President.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
McCain’s hypocrisy is stunning. Palin, it is coming out, has been all about the earmarks, both as mayor of mayberry and as “mayor” of alaska. So mark her for a hypocrite too.
But has anyone considered the angle that maybe McCain never asked for an earmark (and it’s obvious that many earmarks are valid) in 26 years of congress because he’s not smart enough to sort through the issues and requests, or he’s too lazy to do so? This is, after all, someone who has said he DOESN’T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMY, and DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO USE THE INTERNET.
Posted by: jon in maryland | September 13, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I think the new Obama ad that makes fun of McCain because of his inability to type on a keyboard after is injuries as a POW is despicable.
From the Boston Globe (March 4, 2000):
McCain’s severe war injuries prevent him from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes.
Posted by: MikeCAL | September 13, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
niccolo m@chiavelli
That is a huge problem.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Whenevr the truth start to expose the dispicable tactics of the republicans they start piling on the media. But the media needs to stick to ots guns and reveal the dishonesty of the MCcaine campaign.
The next thing that should be revealed is his incompetence. He has lived a life riding other people coattails (his father and wife’s family money) and a POW incident that came out of that incompetence.
Posted by: mal | September 13, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
MikeCAL
I think McCain being against teaching children how to stay away from child sex predators is more despicable then the obvious jab at McCain’s age.
In fact McCain is old and if elected will be the oldest person to be elected. Obama ad is true, McCain’s ad isn’t.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Posted by: MikeCAL | Sep 13, 2008 4:49:04 PM
I find it despicable that McCain/Palin lie every time they open their mouths. I find it despicable our President has lied repeatedly and has run this country into the ground.
Get over it and put your big boy panties on. If McCain wanted to learn how to use a computer or was smart enough, they have them for people with disabilities.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Posted by: MM | Sep 13, 2008 4:49:09 PM
I hope it remains one for him.
It is a fact. The only reason anyone is paying attention to his candidacy right now is because of Sarah Palin.
She IS his platform. No one is talking about anything else.
He’s become a doddering, ancient relative standing humbly in the background, mumbling to himself while his vibrant, compelling niece captures the public’s attention.
He’s completely disappeared behind her shadow.
Is he really still running for President?
Doesn’t look like it.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
niccolo m@chiavelli
It is like Republicans think that the Vice President is the most powerful position in the United States. Well Cheney had a lot to do with that.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
I doubt more than a couple of hundred die-hard supporters would show up at one of his rallies if Sarah Palin wasn’t accompanying him.
If Sarah Palin were showing up in the same town, on the same date, but at a different venue, John McCain would have real trouble getting his own relatives to show up. :-)
He has become a side-show, a prop – completely irrelevant to his own candidacy.
Yet, he claims he is the one running for President.
It is sad…
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
The tenor, vitriole, and uninformed opinions of several anti-obama posters (i won’t even diminish the words republican or conservative by labeling them as such) is shocking. Outright racism, mean-spiritedness, disrespect and dishonorable comments have no place in a civilized debate.
It’s funny how people accuse the entire pres — ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, NYTimes, LA Times, Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, ets, all well-respected and enduring news establishments that have been around for year and shown journalistic integrity — they accuse EVERYONE of “liberal bias”?? The entire free press of America? What do you want, just one channel that’s state-controlled?
Are you even American? DO you have ANY IDEA what America is or what this country stands for?
Posted by: Seth | September 13, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | Sep 13, 2008 4:59:08 PM
Sad….
…and not a little bizarre.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
MM
Not Racist, only concerned about Obama’s true faith and backing. Please consider Obama’s affiliations:
Raila Obinga – Obama’s repeated public appearances with him and Obama’s public distain for Kenya’s president. While Obinga claims to be Anglican he has sided with radical Muslim forces in Kenya in an attempt to be President.
You will recall when Obinga lost, rioting and persecution broke out in Kenya because of the contested result.
In the end 300 christian churches were damaged or destroyed. Hundreds killed, thousands displaced. TAKE NOTE: NO MOSQUES WERE DAMAGED.
Jermiah Wright and his Black liberation theology have very much in common with the goals of the Nation of Islam. Each expouse resentment against the evils America, white America in particular.
Even Obama’s ties to Tony Rezko, has seeds of Muslim influence in the funding of the purchase of Obama’s home.
Rezko, a native of Syria, worked for Jabia Muhammmed, whose father was Elijah Muhammed, who founded the Nation
of Islam.
Obama’s history has not been vetted. His own references such as “my Muslim faith”, Michelle’s apparant disappointment with America.
Now is not the time for America to elect a President which expresses a contempt for America and uses a black liberation christian theology and ties with extreme Muslim elements to further his ambition. Either would “cloud” his judgement and resolve in the face of an enemy know as “Radical Muslims”.
Posted by: David Leland | September 13, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
McCain/Palin has a new radio ad supporting stem cell research on their website. What a joke. How can you be pro-life and support killing of embryo.
Posted by: jsmes | September 13, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
J and MM,
Obama is making fun of an injured was hero. You think that is okay? You are as sick as Obama. Maybe you and Obama can go teach sex education to some kindergarteners.
Dem for Palin/McCain
Posted by: MikeCAL | September 13, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
McCain/Palin will say anything to win.
My evidence the sex ad.
My proof every newspaper.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Hypocrisy. McCain does not put country first. He will do anything to win an election. pro-life supporting stem cell research. I was for it before I am against it. Oh! against it before I am for it.. Lies!!!!
Posted by: James | September 13, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
MikeCAL
Played the POW card. Obama only criticized his time during the Senate (1982 onward). What McCain is supposedly running on? Is it not true that McCain is old?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
zeferimus
Already read it. She sidesteps more in the uncut version then she did in the aired version.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Sarah Palin lied again about going to Iraq. Just to find out she ended at Kuwait border. What a shame!!! Why lie?
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
FACT: Palin cut earmarks in her State by two/thirds.
FACT: Obama requested approx 800 MILLION in earmarks.
FACT: McCain requested zero in earmarks.
The fact ABC is misrepresenting the above facts on this issue shows once again how in the tank for Obama ABC really is. ABC has lost all credibility. They are not even pretending to be neutral.
Posted by: sam | September 13, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
J and MM,
Obama is making fun of an injured was hero. You think that is okay? You are as sick as Obama. Maybe you and Obama can go teach sex education to some kindergarteners.
Dem for Palin/McCain
Oh i forgot he keeps adding I was a POW to everything. If McCain had the intelligence there are different things that can be done with computer for people w/disabilities. Blind people can even use them.
Obama did not say he was going to teach sex education to kindergartners. He want to teach them at that age about sexual predators, which I think is a fantastic idea. What is wrong with that?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
If McCain cannot control the lobyist running his campaign, how can he govern. The ads comming out we all know is not the old mcCain will subscribe to. An ad with a false attack on a legislature that will protect our children from child predators or molesters. He has lost all honor. No integrity and no county first..
Posted by: James | September 13, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
So…
In the last two tickets.
McCain has transformed into the sleaziest most dishonest campaigner in recent memory.
He was once, but is no longer an honorable man.
Honor isn’t worth a bucket-of-spit to him.
He has given up any claim to putting “country first” by selecting a running-mate who did not meet standards of experience HE HIMSELF said were essential.
He has spit on the notion of service, by insulting Barack Obama’s early experiences as a community organizer.
He has given up his maverick credentials by caving to the right-wing of his own party.
VOTE John McCain:
sell out, a man without honor, a man without a platform, something of an creep, a man eclipsed by his how running mate.
A nobody.
Not someone even John McCain (of a few years ago) would even consider voting for!
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
sam
My name is the link to those earmarks. Nothing wrong with earmarks. McCain doesn’t distinguish between good earmarks and bad ones. He dislikes all earmarks therefor picking Palin is sort of hypocritical considering she has gotten more earmarks per constituent then obama. McCain made earmarks an issue not Obama.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
So…
In the last two weeks…
see above…
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
FACT: Palin cut earmarks in her State by two/thirds.
FACT: Obama requested approx 800 MILLION in earmarks.
FACT: McCain requested zero in earmarks.
The fact ABC is misrepresenting the above facts on this issue shows once again how in the tank for Obama ABC really is. ABC has lost all credibility. They are not even pretending to be neutral.
Posted by: sam | Sep 13, 2008 5:08:14 PM
Where are you getting your info. Source please. Here is the TRUTH!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080908/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_palin
Obama hasn’t asked for any earmarks this year. Last year, he asked for $311 million worth, about $25 for every Illinois resident. Alaska asked this year for earmarks totaling $198 million, about $295 for every Alaska citizen.
Who’s porky pig?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
I heard from Biden’s interview with Tom Brokaw that McCain wants to tax employees health benefits that they get from their employer. What the F@@@ is wrong with this senile, pencil D###, clown face, neanderthal living thing is trying to do with the middle/working class american? People where you’re a democrat or republican, I hope you seriously give a thought of this bastard. This shows that he does not give a damn about people in need. Please DO NOT VOTE for his ticket.
Posted by: Mary Taylor | September 13, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
niccolo:
You are right that we weren’t “that” happy with him because of some of his policies. I don’t think anyone will ever agree 100% with any candidates views if they really knew what they all were.
However, least as far as I am concerned, I am paying much more attention to him since this pick and am liking what I hear.
Seems if Palin has eclipsed McCain, maybe the media has assisted that somewhat.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 13, 2008 5:02:34 PM
Both of those sites are blogs. Do you expect us to believe that…lol. Try a reputable source next time.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Now they will start to öool into the Palin family accounts….YIPPEE….can´t wait.
Posted by: Gregan | September 13, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I lost all respect for McCain. His service to our country cannot be questioned. But the new McCain cannot be trusted to run on another 4 more years of the same. Ever since he demoted his campain manager and brought all Bush’s 2000 and 2004 team. The same team that brought false attack against McCain in 2000 now runs his campaign. Bush legacy lies on a Mccain victory. America wake up
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I lost all respect for McCain. His service to our country cannot be questioned. But the new McCain cannot be trusted to run on another 4 more years of the same. Ever since he demoted his campain manager and brought all Bush’s 2000 and 2004 team. The same team that brought false attack against McCain in 2000 now runs his campaign. Bush legacy lies on a Mccain victory. America wake up
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
obamamama
McCain hasn’t changed his policies since picking Palin. Why would you vote for him now?
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Posted by: J | Sep 13, 2008 5:08:25 PM
Obama is Making fun of John McCain?
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My father was John McCain’s age. He was in a car accident that left him a quadriplegic – unable to move from the neck down.
He had a special rig outfitted that allowed him to puff in a tube and select letters of an on-screen keyboard.
This is how he typed.
He was John McCain’s age, he knew how to use email and the internet.
And he was a quadriplegic!!!!!
Spare us your excuses.
Enough with John McCain using his P.O.W. experience to excuse his every shortcoming.
The guy is out of touch.
OWN IT, you who knowing this, still support the “Palin/McCain” ticket.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
How canm you be pro-life and support stem cell research in a new radio add on your website..Phony.
McCain/Palin are true liers…
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
How can you be pro-life and support stem cell research in a new radio ad on your website ?..Phony.
McCain/Palin are true liers…
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Posted by: J | Sep 13, 2008 5:08:25 PM
Obama is Making fun of John McCain?
I didn’t post that. I was responding to
Posted by: MikeCAL | Sep 13, 2008 5:03:10 PM.
I agree with you 100%
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
as the truth filters out…
Gov. Palin said she went to Iraq. Turns out she was in Kuwait but did not travel into Iraq. She mentioned Ireland as a foreign country she traveled to.. that was a refueling stop.
Ms. Palin also mentioned traveling to Mexico. That was a vacation.
So what else will change in the next few days?
McCain/Palin = more of the same lies we’ve been getting for 8 years.
Posted by: Gus | September 13, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Obama and Biden both voted to continue the bridge to nowhere when those funds were up for a vote to be diverted to New Orleans rebuilding….nuff said.
Posted by: dobberdude | September 13, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Allow me to say whats on everyone’s mind. McCain is old and confused. He’s going to try to suck the life out of Palin to win the election.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Posted by: Gus | Sep 13, 2008 5:20:57 PM
Karl Rove won’t be happy she blew it…lol
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
It is a shame. It is a joke. McCain is old and Palin is a lier. A disgrace to my christain faith. So called evagenlicals do you support stem cell research and if no. Your Sarah and McCain said they now support it in a new ad on their website. Vote on real issues.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
J and MM,
The ad refers to a bill Obama supported in the Illinois state Senate to update the sex education curriculum and make it “medically accurate.” It would have lowered the age at which students would begin what the bill termed “comprehensive sex education” to include kindergarten.
I’m not exactly sure how you think sex education for a kindergartener and a kindergartener being snatched up by a predator is the same thing. Get your facts straight.
Posted by: MikeCAL | September 13, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Posted by: obamamama | Sep 13, 2008 5:12:55 PM
Has the media assisted Sarah Palin in eclipsing John McCain?
Absolutely. But the media knows how to respond and feed public curiousity.
The public is intensely curious about Sarah Pain, regardless of their party preferences. This interest extends beyond partisanship, and you know what, you deserves.
Her politics aside, she is a very compelling person. I hate her politics, but I am deeply impressed with her personal story. It is compelling.
John McCain? Not so much.
Once upon a time, a long time ago, and a country far far away (The United States, the year 2000), I voted for him in the primaries. I voted for him AGAIN this primary, but then I’m a Michigan resident, so you can take all that with a grain of salt. There was no one else I could vote for, as an independent.
NOW? I think the old John McCain has completely collapsed. He is running the sleaziest, most cunning, most vile, most dishonest campaign I can remember.
I think he has no honor, if he still lovers this country, I’d like to know how, and in any event, he doesn’t even seem to be at the head of the ticket any more.
He’s been supplanted at the top by his running mate, Sarah Palin.
I find it disturbing, and sad….
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
The former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan says the country can’t afford tax cuts of the magnitude proposed by Republican presidential contender John McCain.
I am not an expert in economy. What I know is tax cut reduces government revenue. To be able to balance the budget, government needs to reduce spending (ex: eliminate some public service), or find other revenue (ex: increase the property tax and/or sales tax).
Posted by: CT | September 13, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
There are a lot of fake Christians in the Republican leadership.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
I can’t believe people are defending this pair of lying scumbags. What a bunch of dead-enders.
Posted by: Cosorro | September 13, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
After listening to some of you pathetic losers cry about McCain and Palin, I am convinced they are the right choice for me. C YA at the Polls
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
TH, you are crying because you cant’t just believe your sarah and McCain are so dishonest..
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
John McCain – “Experience and foresight that only comes with AGE”
“There’s not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shiahs. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC, 4/23/03]
” I believe that the success will be fairly easy.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
“We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. ” [CNN, 9/29/02]
“But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily.” [MSNBC, 1/22/03]
“But I believe that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators.” [NBC, 3/20/03]
“It’s clear that the end is very much in sight.” [ABC, 4/9/03]
“This is a mission accomplished..” [This Week, ABC, 12/14/03]
“I’m confident we’re on the right course.” [ABC News, 3/7/04]
Can you give an estimate when can our troops come home? (Matt Lauer) “No, but that’s not too important,” [ABC 6/11/08]
“There were those of us who knew along that this would be difficult” (TV interview 07/08)……
…Uh, sure you did Maverick, sure you did. Just say POW again and they’ll believe anything!
Posted by: Grumpy Old Man and the Beauty Pagent Princess | September 13, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
MikeCal
In a debate with Republican Alan Keyes, against whom Obama was running for an open seat in the U.S. Senate in 2004, Obama made it clear that at least one reason he supported the bill was that it would help teach young kids to recognize inappropriate behavior and pedophiles:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html
Another republican lie…try again!
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Do you really think when McCain is president that he will have time to surf the net and text message people? He will be dealing with real issues.
If you want to talk about someone being out of touch, look at Obama and is corrupt ties to Rezko, his racist spiritual leader Jeremiah Wright, his terrorist friends like Ayers.
America will not vote for Obama because he is a frightening politician.
Posted by: MikeCAL | September 13, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
McCain is only McCain 10% of the time.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
james, Get real if you want to see dishonesty look towards the DNC. They are the biggest POS LIARS on the planet.
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | September 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Let me tell ya’ story bout a man named Todd
A poor fisherman who was reelin’ in some cod.
Then one day the wife hears Rovey on the horn.
The next thing ya know a candidate is born.
Working on the second verse…
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Since the folks at ABC are concerned about earmarks then they should also be concerned about pork spending. Take a look at the congressional ratings and you’ll see major differences in just not Obama/Biden to McCain but Democrats and Republicans. By the way Governors don’t vote on earmarks, members of congress do.
Posted by: Kenny Jones | September 13, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Oh I see MikeCal,
When we get busted lying about the other candidates then we resort to smear tactics.
America WILL vote for Obama. Idiots won’t.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Kenny,
True. Governors simply hire lobbyists to do the dirty work for them, thereby they can claim to be above such doings.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
MikeCAL
McCain should know those things to improve government efficiency and TRANSPARENCY. Imagine knowing what domestic policy is being thought of through the Internet.
Rezco things has been proven debunk by multiple news organizations. Just Like McCains honesty.
Vote McCain/Palin – Obama is a secretly a pack of wolves.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
Well if you, McCain,Palin, Rove,and Bush are all Patriots I guess I will be voting for Obama. SOOOO.. I guess the answer would be a big FAT NO!
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
My mother is a devout, evangelical Christian who believes the world was created in six days, some six thousand years ago, that we are living in the end times, and the second-coming is at hand, that every word in the Bible is the literal word of God.
She is a devout, evangelical Christian…..
…and a devout Democrat.
She has never voted for a Republican in her life, and I doubt she ever will.
She believes that the moral principles, and ethical aspirations implicit in Democratic policies are closer to the spirit of Christ’s teachings.
BTW:
She loved the line “Jesus was a community organizer, and Pontius Pilate was the governor”.
Posted by: former evangelical | September 13, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
It is amazing how the McCain people are the biggest babies in history, but yet their candidate is the biggest liar in politics. Nevertheless, they blame it all on the press. Why would anyone want a president that must lie to get into office? Either those who support him must approve of his lying or they are too stupid to know better. Maybe the only thing do better then lying is using scare tactics.
Posted by: The Unshrub | September 13, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
No,no, no God D@mn America. – Obama’s Spirtual leader of 20 years
Obama is responsible for what he says and who he is affiliated with. If he says he is going to teach kindergarteners sex education, he has to deal with the consequences. If he makes fun of a POW for being disabled, then he has to deal with the consequences. If he is friends with racists, terrorists, and corrupt business men, he has to deal with the consequences. The consequences are that he will never get elected.
Obama is sick!
Democrat for Palin/McCain
Posted by: MikeCAL | September 13, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
former evangelical,
Dignity comes in many guises.
Bless your mothers ‘fundamental’
wisdom.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Fight for America
You damn right Im with ya along with my very large family supporting McCain. Although not for sure all that much is needed, Obama is sliding faster and fatser in the polls. Gotta luv it
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Posted by: mary taylor | Sep 13, 2008 5:33:56 PM
My father was a professor of history, and did have a Phd, so maybe comparing his accomplishments with John McCain is a little unfair.:-)
Still, he was a quadriplegic, and he could use the internet and knew how to use the email.
The way McCain uses his P.O.W. experience to excuse his every shortcoming and failing is dishonorable, and frankly – since I’ve seen what a quad can do – dishonest, even weak.
Posted by: former evangelical | September 13, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
DecentAmerican: Your post has left me …..speechless. You continue to do nothing but lie and use smear tactics to try and get your point across. You are what’s wrong with this country.I won’t try and dispute your lies and inuendo but at least I will vote for my candidate with a clear head.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Unshrub,
It is amazing how the McCain people are the biggest babies in history, but yet their candidate is the biggest liar in politics. Nevertheless, they blame it all on the press. Why would anyone want a president that must lie to get into office? Either those who support him must approve of his lying or they are too stupid to know better. Maybe the only thing do better then lying is using scare tactics.
The engine that this campiagn strategy runs on has two speeds:
nasty and indignant.
Both are reverse gears.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
t’s time for the American public to open their eyes to the same old Dumasscrat tactics that got us into the mess we are currently in! For the sake of the country – McCain/Palin ’08!
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 5:42:04 PM
Haven’t you noticed that Bush and Cheney have been in charge the last 8 long excruciating years?
If that were a democrat you would be blaming it on the President.
For the sake of the country —Don’t vote McCain/Palin (LIARS)
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Posted by: mary taylor | Sep 13, 2008 5:33:56 PM
My father was a professor of history, and did have a Phd, so maybe comparing his accomplishments with John McCain is a little unfair.:-)
Still, he was a quadriplegic, and he could use the internet and knew how to use the email.
The way McCain uses his P.O.W. experience to excuse his every shortcoming and failing is dishonorable, and frankly – since I’ve seen what a quad can do – dishonest, even weak.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
MC Cain probably had stock in the company providing the DNA!
Posted by: Mac | September 13, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
MikeCAL
Play the POW card again. How does McCain write his speeches if he can’t type. How can a quadriplegic be able to type and not McCain. And it looks like Palin sat through a minister trashing the Jews. Wright criticize the U.S. which is what most black churches do and the media exploited it.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
decentAmerican
fact: You are an idiot.
Posted by: The Unshrub | September 13, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Fight for America
You damn right Im with ya along with my very large family supporting McCain. Although not for sure all that much is needed, Obama is sliding faster and fatser in the polls. Gotta luv it
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 5:42:28 PM
Yeah the planet is littered with idiots.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Are we allowed to question barry’s earmarks or are the off limits like everything else?
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
TH
The trend is actually the opposite. McCain got the bounce but his numbers are starting to recede.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS FALSE!
Ok, I’m not going to go through all your LIES, because you’re not worthy of my time, but here is Obama’s Birth Certificate http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5 .
So, seriously, go troll elsewhere…
Your lies and smears are worthless and you’re not changing anyone’s minds with it.
Why don’t you try to talk about the issues? That’s what really matters to people.
GET A LIFE!
http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS FALSE!
Ok, I’m not going to go through all your LIES, because you’re not worthy of my time, but here is Obama’s Birth Certificate http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5 .
So, seriously, go troll elsewhere…
Your lies and smears are worthless and you’re not changing anyone’s minds with it.
Why don’t you try to talk about the issues? That’s what really matters to people.
GET A LIFE!
http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS FALSE!
Ok, I’m not going to go through all your LIES, because you’re not worthy of my time, but here is Obama’s Birth Certificate http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5 .
So, seriously, go troll elsewhere…
Your lies and smears are worthless and you’re not changing anyone’s minds with it.
Why don’t you try to talk about the issues? That’s what really matters to people.
GET A LIFE!
http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS FALSE!
Ok, I’m not going to go through all your LIES, because you’re not worthy of my time, but here is Obama’s Birth Certificate http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5 .
So, seriously, go troll elsewhere…
Your lies and smears are worthless and you’re not changing anyone’s minds with it.
Why don’t you try to talk about the issues? That’s what really matters to people.
GET A LIFE!
http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Mack
My name is linked to Obama’s earmarks.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
FACT: a genuine copy of Obama’s birth certificate has not been released.
FACT: no one knows what hospital he was born in, and there is no birth record for Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii.
FACT: Obama says that McCain does not use email in an ad, but McCain has not been able to use a keyboard effectively due to his war injuries, sustained in his service to the country.
FACT: in the video of the 9/11 ceremony, Obama is seen dissing a firefighter in line waiting to shake his hand.
FACT: michelle Obama was conspicously aabsent from the ceremony, claiming to be at home with the kids, but instead was found campaigning for her husband at Ohio churches.
FACT: Palin stopped the bridge to nowhere, there is no way you can dispute that, regardless of whether or not she supported it before, she found it to be a waste of funds and stopped it. Obama and Biden both voted For the Bridge, and also vote AGAINST the Coburn amendment, which would have divereted those funds to help Katrina victims.
All well documented facts.
obama and biden are pure scum, mocking our war heros, dissing our 9/11 heroes, and refusing to help Katrina victims when the opportunity arose.
Fight for America, are you patriots with me?
McCain/Palin 2008
Posted by: decentAmerican | Sep 13, 2008 5:32:05 PM
YOU NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH! EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS FALSE!
Ok, I’m not going to go through all your LIES, because you’re not worthy of my time, but here is Obama’s Birth Certificate http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5 .
So, seriously, go troll elsewhere…
Your lies and smears are worthless and you’re not changing anyone’s minds with it.
Why don’t you try to talk about the issues? That’s what really matters to people.
GET A LIFE!
http://tinyurl.com/5uyyo5
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I bet most if not all you Obambi SUPPORTERS arent even in the US or a US citizen blogging from other countries in attempt to change a few ignorant minds that are scattered so LIBERALLY across our great land.
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Its BARACK Mack
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Oops sorry, stupid internet.
Posted by: Kim | September 13, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
TH
I bet you will challenge all our birth certificates next. RIGHT………..
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Mack,
Since when is anything off limits for the Rove kids?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
I bet most if not all you Obambi SUPPORTERS arent even in the US or a US citizen blogging from other countries in attempt to change a few ignorant minds that are scattered so LIBERALLY across our great land.
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 5:49:12 PM
The only ignorant minds I see on here are republican trolls spreading lies just like their Master and Mistress.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
McCain/Palin are liars. I was in Iraq but I only visited Kuwait border..Palin
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
I think I will spread a lie. Did you know that Sarah Palin is McCain’s dominatrix. Shocking isn’t it!
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
TH
I’m thinking you and other McSame supporter are from another PLANET.
For you to support this LYING DUO spewing lies and mindless crap lets me know that you are from the planet URANUS
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
J your right the planet is littered with idiots, the all support OBAMA
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“No,no, no God D@mn America. – Obama’s Spirtual leader of 20 years”
Reason #1 why I can never support Obama. If he loved his country as much as he claims to, he should have walked out of that church right then and there, or at least had the courage to stand up and say this is just not right. His disgusting pastor spit on all of the people that lost their lives that day.
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Republicans are voter caging people who are being foreclosed. This is reason alone not to vote Republican.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Mack
If you love this country admitt that America f**k up when we funded Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan in the 1980s.
Posted by: MM | September 13, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
“Mack,
Since when is anything off limits for the Rove kids?”
He’s untouchable by the MSM.
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
J your right the planet is littered with idiots, the all support OBAMA
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 5:52:32 PM
C’mon that comeback sucks. Can’t you do better than that? You sound like PeeWee Herman “I know you are , but what am I?”
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
J
Don’t get into spreading lies against the GOP. THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS.
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I will never support Palin if she loves her country so much and say the war in Iraq is an art of God and still stay in the same church. We are not fighting a holy war.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I bet most if not all you Obambi SUPPORTERS arent even in the US or a US citizen blogging from other countries in attempt to change a few ignorant minds that are scattered so LIBERALLY across our great land.
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 5:49:12 PM
False. I live in Bellevue, WA, 98006. I find it funny people like you talk of liberal being bad. Fact is… the states that always vote Democrat… WA, OR, CA, NY, East Coast ALL really haven’t been that affected by this “recession” its the Republican States that are complaing and losing jobs.
The WA State economy is strong and there are very wealthy people here compared to other states. Us Democrats must be doing something right… this should be a clue to the rest of the country.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
The war with islamic extremist was in Afghanistan and not even in Iraq.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
But J
You know his daughter did say he used to date a stripper. (from Alaska)
naaa that wouldn work
Sarah wasn’t even born yet.
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
By the way -
This is how I define honor:
I measure my father
who was paralyzed from the neck down for the last ten years of his life, a C2 quadriplegic, who knew how to use the internet and knew how to use email, and never made excuses, EVER
…against Sen. John McCain, former P.O.W., who uses his war experiences to excuse his serial philandering, his leaving a crippled wife and their children for a wealthy heiress half his age, who uses his P.O.W. status to excuse the fact that he can’t remember how many houses he owns, who uses his P.O.W. status to excuse away his every failing and shortcoming.
My father was an honorable man. John McCain is not.
He is a lying merchant of sleaze willing to do whatever it takes to achieve and maintain political power.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
J
Don’t get into spreading lies against the GOP. THEY ARE PROFESSIONAL LIARS.
I am not lying…lol
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Omentum
You and the few Obambi supporters that are left supporting the sinking obambi ship must be a little pissed knowing your ANNOINTED ONE IS LOOSING sucks that you spent all that time and money and it got you nowwhere guess you got to get a job now cause your parents will surely run you out of the basement soon.
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
She reference CONUS as the “lower 48″
this women and her husband are deeply associated with the Alaskan Independence Party. WHICH MEANS THAT THE DO NOT WANT TO BE ONE THE 50 STATES ANYMORE.
how patriotic is that
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Mack: Have you read the sermon Mack? If you had you could see for yourself where he was coming from. How our foreign policy brought all this on. backing Bin Laden in Afghanistan..backing Saddam….selling arms to all these countries. Playing one against the other. Meddling , always meddling. No wonder they hate us. Yes our chickens came home to roost that day and we still haven’t learned our lesson.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
former evangelical:
I like what you wrote “Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was the governor. This is an excellent quote for Obama’s campaign to use against McCain campaign when Palin kind of belittle Obama’s community organizing work.
Posted by: mary taylor | September 13, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
NYT:
“Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.”
She isn’t Bush, She’s CHENEY 2!!!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
“No,no, no God D@mn America. – Obama’s Spirtual leader of 20 years”
Reason #1 why I can never support Obama. If he loved his country as much as he claims to, he should have walked out of that church right then and there, or at least had the courage to stand up and say this is just not right. His disgusting pastor spit on all of the people that lost their lives that day.
Posted by: Mack | Sep 13, 2008 5:53:08 PM
He wasn’t in the church during those sermons. He was a member of the church who lived in D.C. I’m a member of my church but only go about 6 times a year… should I be held accountable for EVERYTHING said by my pastor? Plus, he’s denounced him.
Come on now.
Lets talk issues!
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Posted by: Omentum | Sep 13, 2008 5:56:13 PM
But J
You know his daughter did say he used to date a stripper. (from Alaska)
naaa that wouldn work
Sarah wasn’t even born yet.
I think I read that somwhere. I think it was imakestuffup.com
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Chad,
Is Wright any worse than the last two losers you people shoehorned into office?
At least he just has a big mouth.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
It,s all about electorial college. Obama wilo will without Ohio by just winning Colorado and Nevada and keep all Kerry states. These are supposed to be red states and it is leaning Obama. By the way, he will win Ohio.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
TH
I WOULD RATHER KEEP MY INTEGRITY THAN WIN AN ELECTION.
YOU AND YOUR PARTY ARE PATHETIC.
YOU AND MCCAIN SUCK.
Dont get too confident. Once the fake gold wears off the golden goose from alaska…… you will see a change.
DID YOU SEE PALIN WITH CHARLIE G.
Look Charlie …. you can see Russia from here!
She is so ditsy
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
NYT:
“Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.”
She isn’t Bush, She’s CHENEY 2!!!
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“Mack: Have you read the sermon Mack? If you had you could see for yourself where he was coming from. How our foreign policy brought all this on. backing Bin Laden in Afghanistan..backing Saddam….”
Sorry, I can’t. I was there and witnessed and felt the terror and destruction first hand. For the fireman that ran past me into the building, I could never forgive him.
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
It,s all about electorial college. Obama will win without Ohio by just winning Colorado and Nevada and keep all Kerry states. These are supposed to be red states and it is leaning Obama. By the way, he will win Ohio.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
CHAD
You must been out smoking like your precious one, because now washington has become a battle ground state. The entire US will turn red get used to it were taking over, and we dont want to hear any crying when you have to get before noon and go to work. Stupid liberals
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
The McCain/Palin ticket reminds me of an old-fashion saying. (We are still allowed to use those, right?)
“You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear”
Posted by: Paige | September 13, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Mack: another thing ….it’s ok for our preachers to say ” God is directing this war” “Jews dying everyday is a retribution from God for not accepting Jesus” “Katrina….God’s retribution for all those gays” How about the church that goes to solders funerals protesting because gays are allowed in the service. These are America’s preachers.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
McCain said I will follow Osama Biladen to the gates of hell but he does not want to follow him into Parkistan
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Omentum
You and the few Obambi supporters that are left supporting the sinking obambi ship must be a little pissed knowing your ANNOINTED ONE IS LOOSING sucks that you spent all that time and money and it got you nowwhere guess you got to get a job now cause your parents will surely run you out of the basement soon.
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 5:58:53 PM
First of all Einstein its losing not “loosing”. Secondly I guess you have liked being lied to for 8 years that you want 4 more of the same.
How come the democrats are the ones registering new voters? Let Palin keep opening her mouth the next few weeks and people will find out she is as dumb as a box of hair. Those interviews she gave made no sense whatsoever.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
By the way -
This is how I define honor:
I measure my father
who was paralyzed from the neck down for the last ten years of his life, a C2 quadriplegic, who knew how to use the internet and knew how to use email, and never made excuses, EVER
…against Sen. John McCain, former P.O.W., who uses his war experiences to excuse his serial philandering, his leaving a crippled wife and their children for a wealthy heiress half his age, who uses his P.O.W. status to excuse the fact that he can’t remember how many houses he owns, who uses his P.O.W. status to excuse away his every failing and shortcoming.
My father was an honorable man. John McCain is not.
He is a lying merchant of sleaze willing to do whatever it takes to achieve and maintain political power.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | Sep 13, 2008 5:56:50 PM
C5-C6 Quad right here. No finger movement and a semi-frozen shoulder. I’m 24, motorcycle accident was in 2005.
All I here are excuses from McCain. Is that what his excuse is gonna be when he can’t do something? There’s ALWAYS a way to do something!
BTW, I see people say he can’t lift his arm to salute because of his shoulders, BUT all the pictures and video i saw at the RNC showed McCain saluting when he came home from being a POW.
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES!
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Chad Obama was getting private training from his mentor.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Chad did you get the memo
The mccain campaign said this election is not about issues.
they know they would lose miserably if it was about issues.
THE MAIN ISSUE IS THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR 8 YEARS AND THE COUNTRY IS IN SHAMBLES AND WE HAVE THE GOP HOPEFUL VOTING WITH THE FAILED ADMINISTRATION 90+ PERCENT OF THE TIME
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Posted by: mary taylor | Sep 13, 2008 5:59:18 PM
“Jesus was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was the governor.”
The Rove slime machine would try to twist this around to imply that we are comparing Obama to Jesus, whereas nothing of the sort is intended.
The idea is that some reformers, and Jesus was nothing if not a reformer, try to achieve reform through ideas and community service.
I personally know of many evangelical christians who believe this, and act on this belief.
On the other hand, there are those “committed Christians” who feel that they must force their values on the rest of the public by winning political office and imposing their interpretation of the “good news” through legislative fiat, and the abuse of political power.
You know…like some Governor’s I can think of…:-)
Posted by: former evangelical | September 13, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Colorado and New Mexico is turning blue and winning both of them without Ohio gives democrats the edge. By the way republicans can never win Washington, too many educated people there..
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
VIRGINIA IS GOING DEM TOO
GAME
SET
MATCH
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Obama is still winning and the republicans can cry as much as they want. Hypocrite Dobson can cry also..
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
CHAD
You must been out smoking like your precious one, because now washington has become a battle ground state. The entire US will turn red get used to it were taking over, and we dont want to hear any crying when you have to get before noon and go to work. Stupid liberals
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 6:04:10 PM
WRONG. The poll you’re referring to is a sampling of about only 700 people, hardly accurate. I live here and trust me, this state in blue. My job requires me to be around different people everyday and there are not that many McCain supporters here. Don’t fool yourself and think we’re going red… not gonna happen.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Mack: yes they bombed us and yes it was wrong but don’t put your head in the sand about all the causes behind it, we continue with a foreign policy that just won’t stop pushing our agenda. If you think we didn’t have a hand in Georgia’s little escapade a few weeks ago…well your naive.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
James and Omentum.
Quit yer lying…lol (jk)
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
J
Whatever makes you feel better and helps you sleep at night. The surge not only worked in Iraq but its still working here in the McCain/Palin ticket.
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
North Carolina is becoming Hi-Tech too. By 2012 it will be in play.
Its a shame folk in the rural areas continue to vote against their interest and vote for the big oil/big business men that don’t give a damn about them
how sad
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
VA, CO, NV, NM without Ohio gives Obama the edge. Republicans are in trouble. No wonder McCain is trying to lie again with Immigration ad this week in those states. Lie to the Hispanic votes that democrats killed immigration reform which they killed. Buncvh of losers.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
VA, CO, NV, NM without Ohio gives Obama the edge. Republicans are in trouble. No wonder McCain is trying to lie again with Immigration ad this week in those states. Lie to the Hispanic votes that democrats killed immigration reform which they killed. Bunch of losers.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
J
Whatever makes you feel better and helps you sleep at night. The surge not only worked in Iraq but its still working here in the McCain/Palin ticket.
Posted by: TH | Sep 13, 2008 6:11:10 PM
Gee we wouldn’t have needed a surge if Bushie Boy wouldn’t have lied to us. We shouldn’t have gone there in the first place. So much for Republican intelligence.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
All the pollsters are using data from 2004 to calibrate their polling strategy.
Being that this is a war referendum election…. more people are going to be coming out.
so TH and you other sick GOP lemmings don’t get too happy.
THESE POLLS ARE SKEWED. to say the least.
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
NM, NV, CO and no Ohio = Obama win. Please try interactive electorial college maps. All he has to do is keep Kerry states.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
I doubt N. Carolina will go for Obama. They may vote out Dole. They will not vote for Obama because he’s black.They’re raised that way and nothing will change until they all die.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Omentum.
Sorry, I guess you missed the latest Zogby poll/map that came out this aft. LOTSA RED… INCLUDING VIRGINIA!! BYE, BYE, BO.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
BTW TH,
I sleep fine at night because I know I didn’t vote for Bush either time and I won’t be voting for Old Liar McCain and his lying Barbie doll.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
CHAD, The good news is i live here in S WA so i brought five votes with me when i moved here (big family). I could have voted in my previous state but figure it will be better served, seeings how my other state is stomping Obambi to a pulp dont want waste a vote.
Posted by: TH | September 13, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
james,
We will also need enough to counter the vote caging by the RNC:
Republican Party to American Citizens:
YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE,
YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE
========================================
The chairman of the Republican Party in Macomb County Michigan, a key swing county in a key swing state, is planning to use a list of foreclosed homes to block people from voting in the upcoming election as part of the state GOP’s effort to challenge some voters on Election Day.
“We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people aren’t voting from those addresses,” party chairman James Carabelli told Michigan Messenger in a telephone interview earlier this week. He said the local party wanted to make sure that proper electoral procedures were followed.
=======================================
Now here’s the most outrageous aspect of this attempt on the part of the Republican Party to disenfranchise voters.
The GOP, THE VERY PARTY that did nothing to prevent the current housing crisis, that is doing nothing to help people affected by it, is going to use foreclosure lists in order to keep people from voting them out of office!
=====================================
THERE’S MORE:
In Ohio, Doug Preisse, director of elections in Franklin County, around Columbus, the chair of the local GOP, told The Columbus Dispatch that he
“has not ruled out challenging voters before the election due to foreclosure-related address issues.”
=====================================
The original article can be found at the “Michigan Messenger” – an Independent, non-partisan Michigan Newspaper.
http://www.michiganmessenger.com/4076/lose-your-house-lose-your-vote
—————————————-
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Posted by: Chad | Sep 13, 2008 6:05:40 PM
C5-C6 Quad right here. No finger movement and a semi-frozen shoulder. I’m 24, motorcycle accident was in 2005.
==========================================
I do know a little of how difficult your daily life must be, and how shocking the transformation must feel after your accident.
I don’t think my father ever got over it.
Keep up your strength!
One thing I can say based on my father’s experience (he lived for 10 years after his car accident left him a quad), is this: he felt joyful to be alive.
And he never made excuses.
John McCain could have been a symbol for all of us who know how difficult it is to live with these sorts of injuries.
Instead, he has given up all honor, and turned his campaign over to the very sleaze merchants who tried to destroy him in 2000 by spreading lies about his adopted child.
I have lost all of my respect for him.
I do not believe he puts country first, he puts his own political ambitions first, and no longer stands for anything.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Omentum.
Sorry, I guess you missed the latest Zogby poll/map that came out this aft. LOTSA RED… INCLUDING VIRGINIA!! BYE, BYE, BO.
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 6:15:33 PM
You forget Palin has a month and half to stick her moose foot in her mouth. Couple that with McCain doing some more lying. People are not as stupid as they think.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
former evangelical:
You’re right! I forgot about the Rove slime machine. Drop my suggestion. But I do believe that God is not going to let evils prevail, in this case, McCain is the evil because he tells lies to the american people straight out from his mouth, like a fire coming out of a dragon mouth. My logic is that God sides with the good and not with evil.
Posted by: mary taylor | September 13, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Sorry Manitu, ZOGBY POLLS are Internet online polls. You register on their website to be part of the poll. People like you can register multiple times and that is why realclearpolitics refused to include them..Sorry!! I am well informed on this and you can’t fool me.
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Right j, “Bush lied and people died”. TIRED OLD GOBBLEDEGOOK THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE… MANY TIMES OVER. GET OVER IT. OUR GUYS WERE FIGHTING THE BAD GUYS OVER THERE JUST TO KEEP YOUR SORRY UNAPPRECIATIVE BUTT SAFE OVER HERE!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Obama is cruising to victory with the blue collar voters with integrity and without the racist blue collars who claim to be pro-life and pro Hillary using those as excuse..
NV, CO and NM witthout Ohio and Obama wins..
Posted by: james | September 13, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
I have just read ‘Bush Doctrine’ by the Washington Post.
In an interview, Bush press secretary Dana Perino saids that “the Bush doctrine is commonly used to describe key elements of the president’s overall strategy for dealing with threats from terrorists.” She laid out three elements:
“The United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support and harbor terrorists… We will confront grave threats before they fully materialize and will fight the terrorist abroad so we don’t have to face them at home… We will counter the hateful ideology of the terrorist by promoting the hopeful alternative of human freedom.”
Judging from the facts know know about Obama, if elected historians may summize his policies as follows:
The Obama doctine:
The United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and our troops in harms way.
We will confront grave threats after they fully materialize and will fight the terrorists at home so we don’t have to face them on their soil.
We will counter the loving ideology of the mainstream American churches, by promoting the racist alternatives of black liberation theology and the Nation of Islam.
Posted by: DTL | September 13, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
TH,
Congrats, but my family has 6 including me, plus my cousins with a family of 7 (twins). Guess we kind of cancel you out and then add votes to Obama :D OH OH, AND every family on my cul-da-sac is voting for Obama. I win \o/
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
ED: Obama just a community organizer….He was a DIRECTOR for a church based community organization at 24. I guess his education at Harvard means nothing, just like his years in the State Senate.Where’s McCains executive experience? I guess everyone should drop out and we’ll let Palin run the whole show since she’s sooooo experienced.
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
McCain – Gibson ’08
Yahooooooo!
Posted by: You know it makes sense | September 13, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
James,
Polls don’t lie, people do…lol
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
those are what you call good earmarks and not wasteful spending. those studies are being done by the accident’s around that region from past year’s with the fuel and oil spills and polution coming from off the coast of california. yes, accidents happen, and to say that’s why we should not drill is stupid and also remember that next time you turn on you gas or diesel engine’s you dumycrats. when McCain was agaist the bear dna studies in montana, think about it, how was the bear’s being harmed by pollution or anything, they were not so that is wasteful spending. Gov. Palin’s objective was to study and find link’s to the contamination effects if the was any to keep the food supply safe and not have diseases and reduction of sea life harm the fishing industry which is a vital souce of income for the people of alaska. if you notice she was’nt checking the dna or migration habits of the land animal’s such as bear’s etc…
this is all about common sense so keep it up with your liberal democatic talking point’s because that’s all it is with you people “just talk and no action”, wake up to reality and stop throwing ignorant number’s out there thinking your an educated person, because you show more anger than common sense which is your weakness (anger = democrats)(commonsense = Republicans)!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Right j, “Bush lied and people died”. TIRED OLD GOBBLEDEGOOK THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE… MANY TIMES OVER. GET OVER IT. OUR GUYS WERE FIGHTING THE BAD GUYS OVER THERE JUST TO KEEP YOUR SORRY UNAPPRECIATIVE BUTT SAFE OVER HERE!!
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 6:21:59 PM
Newsflash! Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and there are still no WMD’s. If I am so unappreciative why do I help those men and women everyday get the stuff they need to survive in a war that shouldn’t have been waged in the first place. Prove to me he DID NOT LIE!
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
The American peoplewill be criminally negligent if they put McCain/Palin in office. Some must like the prospect of being ruled by the gutter. McCain’s betrayal is particularly unforgivable. The one time maverick sold his honor, courage, and bravery for a mess of pottage. And who did he sell it to? Why, James Dobson and his band of religious lunatics. Dobson has Johnny on a short leash. All he has to do is pull hard and Johnny will heel like the abject dog that he has become. That’s bad news for the rest of us if he is elected. Sarah is simply the outward sign of an inward and intractable disease in the Republican party.
Posted by: riker | September 13, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
James.
Dream on. I live in OH and Zogby confirms what is happening here – SPOT ON!! Your comment on Zogby methods reminds me of the guy this morning on ABC blog calling himself “Viet Nam Vet For Obama”. You would have thought he would at least have checked out the spelling of Vietnam – never heard from him again.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Right j, “Bush lied and people died”. TIRED OLD GOBBLEDEGOOK THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN FALSE.
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 6:21:59 PM
I guess you think 4000+ dead and how many thousands of Iraqi civilians dead is gobbledygook? Why haven’t they found the perpetrator of 9/11?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Jason,
Waaaaaay back to your post about the will of the people not being the law of the land.
There are lazy people on welfare who do NOT go to work because getting job would mean they’d make less on welfare and entitlements than they would at a job. That’s the part of our society I was referring to.
It’s one thing to be chartiable and help the poor (as we should), it’s another to enable laziness. big difference.
The think I oppose vehemently about legalizing gay marriage (besides it’s abomination of the bible) is from a legal point of view, where if you oppose it, oppose marrying gay couples in a church, you can be sued. That, for me, is taking away my right to oppose something that is against my religious beliefs; and all this in the name of protecting the minority, the nth of a percent of a few vs the “majority”. I think not.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Wow. Th neo-con far righters are so afraid of discussing issues; that’s why they try to distract us with anger. While McCain is on The View saying Palin has never requested an earmark while the governor, Palin is on 20/20 justifying her hundreds of millions in earmarks. So what do the silly republican bloggers do? Instead of admitting the contradiction and ask their candidates for clarity and truth, they jump up and down with noisy rhetoric and cry and whine about phantom issues. It’s like the little kid getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar: I didn’t take a cookie, I just wanted to put my hand in their for a minute. Just shut up and admit your mistakes.
Posted by: marty Curran | September 13, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
The American peoplewill be criminally negligent if they put Obama/Biden in office. Some must like the prospect of being ruled by the gutter. Obama’s betrayal is particularly unforgivable. The one time messiah sold his honor, courage, and bravery for an earmark to his wife’s employer so she got a fat payraise! And who did he sell it to? Why, Rev. Wright and his band of religious lunatics. Wright has Obama on a short leash. All he has to do is pull hard and Obama will heel like the abject dog that he has become. That’s bad news for the rest of us if he is elected. Biden is simply the outward sign of an inward and intractable disease in the Demwitt party.
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 6:43:55 PM
This message was approved by the Republican liars.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Wow. Th neo-con far righters are so afraid of discussing issues; that’s why they try to distract us with anger. While McCain is on The View saying Palin has never requested an earmark, Palin is on 20/20 justifying her hundreds of millions in earmarks. So what do the silly republican bloggers do? Instead of admitting the contradiction and ask their candidates for clarity and truth, they jump up and down with noisy rhetoric and cry and whine about phantom issues. It’s like the little kid getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar: I didn’t take a cookie, I just wanted to put my hand in their for a minute. Just shut up and admit your mistakes.
Posted by: marty Curran | September 13, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Posted by: obamamama | Sep 13, 2008 6:33:47 PM
Let me put your mind at ease.
Allowing civil marriages presided over by a state magistrate or some other appointed civil authority will NEVER mean that a church can be required to perform a given wedding.
It never has, and never will.
The churches have always and will always be free to perform marriages according to their own guidelines, principles, and doctrines.
For example: just because a heterosexual couple has been married by a civil magistrate, has a registered marriage license, DOES not mean that the Catholic Church is now legally required to perform a church wedding. That decision is left up to the Catholic church.
The same would apply, and does apply in states where gay couples are allowed to marry in civil unions.
The absolute separation of church and state is NOT affected by allowing gay marriages.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Posted by: obamamama | Sep 13, 2008 6:33:47 PM
You know what I find amazing? You hypocritical Christians that don’t love everyone, including gays. Doesn’t God want us to love everyone, not just a select few that the Republican right picks out?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 6:48:40 PM
McCain is too old and senile to come up with anything on his own. It’s pretty pathetic that he has to steal the other candidates ideas.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I think she reduced wasteful spending overall – it’s not illegal or unethical for a governor to ask for federal monies. Everything is being spun only 1 way. Anyway the 2 items cited in the above article sound like reasonable studies – considering Alaska’s enviorment. Don’t want to find out if, why or how seal populations are doing up there. FINE. Polar bears are important but I guess seals require no further study. And since fishing & crabbing are a huge part of Alaska’s economy & way of life to those pesky native people & bring food to YOUR dinner table maybe money to study sustainability, etc. wouldn’t be a bad idea. These elaborate studies cost money. Was she supposed to pay for it herself???
Posted by: justme | September 13, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Ed, you are soooo angry. Lots of name calling. You must be peachy to live with. Your poor family.
Posted by: marty Curran | Sep 13, 2008 6:52:51 PM
His nickname should be Sunshine.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
NBC has demoted couple of left-wing nut jobs, It is about time for ABC to do a little clean up job.
Posted by: mtr2311 | September 13, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
I love how all you Mccainiacs cry foul when the truth is revealed. It’s true; Facts do have a well known Liberal Bias!lol
Posted by: Dean | September 13, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
sorry but you all know what you can do with your polls.
dont be dumber than you already are and place your bet on polls.
that big surge was — aaaahhh finally we dont have to go to a rally and see my grandpa on stage.
now the have the hockey mom and her compelling story that has been proven to be half true and before it all over …. all of it will be false. she is a sham.
Posted by: Omentum | September 13, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 6:43:55 PM
Your post reads like another McCain slime. If you want to make such serious charges post a link to a reputable media outlet that substantiates it.
Otherwise you just sound like a lunatic!
How do you like these stories?
Sarah Palin is not actuall the mother of Trig, in fact TODD Palin is the mother, he had a sex change, and is now able to act as a surrogate mother!
Track Palin is not actually Sarah Palin’s son, but was born to a mamma Polar bear. (Todd has a roving eye).
This is why Sarah Palin wants to take Polar bears of the extinction list. Noone is more bitter and resentful than a woman scorned.
Sarah Palin does not need foreign policy experience. She can already speak in tongues! If she needs to negotiate with Putin, she can tell him to go to h*ll in Russian!
etc.
I forget where I read these stories, but I promise, they are all true;-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Posted by: justme | Sep 13, 2008 6:53:51 PM
Maybe she did cut it, but they are being hypocritical when McCain keeps saying she is against earmarks. That’s the problem.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | Sep 13, 2008 6:57:23 PM
ROTFLMAO. I read those same stories niccolo.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
J.
You might not be aware that Hussein before execution confessed that he planted the story of WMDs to keep Iran off his back – every major intelligence agency bought it including Great Britain and Israel. But aside from that debate – Iraq was NOT living up to the terms of their surrender. UN pased multi resolutions against Iraq, but BEING THE JOKE THAT THEY ARE – UN DID NOT HAVE THE GUTS TO PURSUE AGAINST IRAQ. THERE WERE ALSO TERRORISTS TRANNING CAMPS AT THAT TIME INSIDE IRAQ… THAT DID HAVE CONNECTIONS TO Al QAIDA, NOT UNDER HUSAIN’S DIRECT CONTROL, BUT RUN BY TERRORIST ABU MUSABUL ZARQAWI. WHEN WE WENT AFTER THE TALABAN IN AFGANISTAN, ZARQAWI LEFT IRAQ TO TAKE OVER AS COMMANDER OF TERRORIST FORCES AGAINST THE ALLIES. AFTER HE WAS INJURED, WHERE DID ZARQAWI RETURN TO? OF COURSE… IRAQ!! TO CONTINUE WITH HIS TERRORIST TRAINNING PROGRAMS. I know that you will never believe all of this material, but all this been documented from military records.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
marty Curan…I’m not angry! I’m quite happy with myself. You on the other hand seem to be on the rag about something Obama has done. I cnaunderstand your empty feeling with that scumbag! See my previous post and maybe that will shed some light on your confusion!
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 6:57:32 PM
The only scumbag I see is you. Your pathetic rants that have no truth to them are the epitome of pathetic. I don’t know about anybody else but I am not confused except by the lack of facts in your rants.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
53 years ago Emmitt Till, a 14 year old boy, was killed for disrespecting a white woman. The newest Republican ad says Obama is disrespectful of Sarah Palin. Republican Rep. Westmorland from Georgia, said Obama was “uppity.”
Sounds like the Republicans want to CHANGE back to the good old days where everyone knew their place.
Posted by: John | September 13, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 6:59:16 PM
Show me a source and I might just believe you. Otherwise just because you say so doesn’t make it true.
I support the warfighter every single day at my job.Don’t try and preach to me about the troops over there fighting for my “SORRY UNAPPRECIATIVE BUTT” as you put it. What have YOU done for our troops today?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Sarah Palin: Has spent 312 nights at her own home…600 miles from the capitol since taking office. Has appointed 5 of her highschool friends to high paying jobs in the government.One was a former real estate agent who listed as one of her qualifications as” I loved cows when i was young.” Yep, you got it State Division of Agriculture…$95,000
Posted by: linda n carolina | September 13, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 6:59:16 PM
Bla..Bla…Bla..
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1. That major intelligence agencies bought into Saddam Hussein’s lies is not excuse. its just another reason we shouldn’t fully trust our governments when they tell us they know what’s bets for us, but can’t tell us, because its “top secret”.
Why do you keep making excuses for a failed policy?
2. We had a working policy to deal with Iraq – the UN sanctions already imposed on Iraq, and the weapons inspections.
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There was no need to invade Iraq in order to contain Iraq.
End of Story.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
J…again I see your angry and I tell you it is because you are under the spell of the black devil, Obama! Hope you can get the help you need…sorry..I am having a hard time typing because I am laughing! You guys make me laugh with your nonsense about how bad Mccain and Palin are but Obama and Biden are much worse! Get over it!
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 7:06:23 PM
You are the one with anger issues…lol. I am glad you can laugh at what YOUR REPUBLICAN President has done to people in this country and to the country itself. It’s real funny isn’t it. The comment about the black devil just shows me what a shallow minded racist ass you are.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I forgot to mention – ZARQAWI’S (Terrorist/ Iraq – Al Qaida)specialty?….. CHEMICAL WEAPONS!!!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Slipping Away: Indiana/Florida/North Carolina/Georgia/Virginia/Ohio Voters Tell Obama Buh-Bye
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 7:06:23 PM
“…you are under the spell of the black devil…”
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Ooohh, you whimpering little white cracker.
Watch what you say, or the VOODOO man’s gonna put a spell on you.:-)
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Ed is a racist.
Ignore him.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I forgot to mention – ZARQAWI’S (Terrorist/ Iraq – Al Qaida)specialty?….. CHEMICAL WEAPONS!!!!
Posted by: Manitu | Sep 13, 2008 7:11:05 PM
You didn’t answer my question. What did you do for our troops today?
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Ed is a racist.
Ignore him.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
niccolo.
PROFOUND. NO WONDER THE TERRORISTS THINK THAT WE ARE IDIOTS!! I thought that the state dept picked up your passport!!
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
= The Organization of the Islamic Conference is an international organization grouping 57 states which have decided to pool their resources together, combine with their efforts and speak with one voice to safeguard the ineterest and secure the progress and well-being of the peoples and well-being of their people and of all Muslims in the world.=
You’ll be the judge.
Posted by: mtr2311 | September 13, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Why do liberals always accuse the rest of us of racism and sexism but they are always the first one’s to point out color and sex differences?
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 7:15:25 PM
Are you friggin serious. You call a Presidential candidate a black devil and that’s not racist….You are the one that needs to be institutionalized.
God help us if this is what’s voting this year. I am going to ignore you stupidity from here on out.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Posted by: Temagami | Sep 13, 2008 7:16:24 PM
niccolo.
PROFOUND. NO WONDER THE TERRORISTS THINK THAT WE ARE IDIOTS!! I thought that the state dept picked up your passport!!
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I know you think you made some sort coherent comment. I assure you, you did not.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Slipping Away: Indiana/Florida/North Carolina/Georgia/Virginia/Ohio Voters Tell Obama Buh-Bye
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 13, 2008 7:12:14 PM
You realize there’s 2 months to go right ?
What happened to the 10-point lead mccain had in that poll? Every poll is dead even. If mccain picked the best vp and got a huge RNC bounce why didn’t he soar ahead in state polls? hmmmm….
Only thing he did was get republicans excited, and sorry to tell you there’s more deomcrats than republicans this time around and he got us excited too….
Once people see how inexperienced she is, see how negative his campaign has gotten with the lies and realize mccain hasn’t taken press questions since Aug. 13th it will swing back to Obama.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
J.
Praising their great work in Iraq – AS ON THIS SITE. I NOTICED THAT YOUR LIB FRIENDS IN CONGRESS HAVE ALMOST STOPPED TELLING OUR TROOPS THAT THEY ARE LOSING THE WAR IN IRAQ – I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE ONE WITH THOSE LIBS??
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
J, you make a great point – earmarks should not be an issue; they’ll always be as will lobbyists. Perhaps it’s not earmarks in and of themselves, although maybe some pet projects lend to concessions in other areas, rather earmarks attached to bills (having nothing to do with the earmarks) in an effort to get the bill passed. I know McCain voted against some bills we support only because they were laden with earmarks.
MM, when McCain changed his stance on drilling (and I hope he does it more), I was glad about that. It shows me that he is open and will consider “the will of the people” and act accordingly, which, in my opinion is what government should be about. Even before Palin, I would have voted for him as a vote against Obama. I heard a couple of speeches and did like that, but disagree about some other things. Obama has too many skeletons in his closet and the media has NOT grilled him like they have the republicans, that speaks volumes.
I could also just offer, as to the reason behind my vote, that McCain selected a woman and being a woman myself, I’m voting for the woman and that’s about the depth of my vote. You know, kinda the same thing as blacks voting for blacks and whites voting for Obama because (as Tom Hanks said) we owe it to him as reparation (is that the right term?)for slavery. The latter really puts a whole new demographic to this year’s election: the guilty white vote. Then there’s also the party line vote no matter the candidate.
In the past, I voted dem and voted for Clinton twice because he was cute and a dem. I hated Reaganomics just like other libs. If there was an amazing dem and a do-do republican.
Personally, I wish the issue debate would be about reducing our national debt.
Posted by: obamamama | September 13, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Posted by: Ed | Sep 13, 2008 7:19:19 PM
You really need to quit that drug habit of yours. In your comments, you;’re babbling incoherently.
You are clearly a racist. Why not just own up to it?
These posts are all anonymous anyway, its not like there really is a VOODOO devil whose somehow going to magically put a spell on you.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Why do John McCain and Sarah Palin think it’s wise to BLATANTLY LIE to the American people?
Did they think that the RNC press-bashing festival would prevent the truth from coming out?
WRONG, JOHN.
LYING IS WRONG, JOHN.
SHAME ON YOU.
Posted by: Ed from MA | September 13, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Posted by: Temagami | Sep 13, 2008 7:23:37 PM
Obviously you didn’t read that I support the troops by actually getting our troops the stuff they need every single day at my job.
My dad was a Vietnam vet so if you are trying to paint me as an unpatriotic liberal it won’t work.
I have no clue what you are babbling about otherwise.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Evidence Gibson Was Prejudiced Against Palin: Comparison of Palin and Obama Interviews
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=29535
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Posted by: obamamama | Sep 13, 2008 7:24:59 PM
People wouldn’t get upset if these people would only tell the truth. When you out and out lie and it’s proved to be false, then they need to stop doing it. That is what infuriates me the most.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
niccolo.
Containing Iraq was only PART of our mission in Iraq. Cleaning out terorists trainning camps and preventing Iran from gaining a foothold was another. Why haven’t you mntioned anything about BUSH OIL? MOST OF YOUR LOON FRIENDS HAVE. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS…. WHERE IS IT??
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
TEMAGAMI AND MANITU!! Give it up on Iraq. Polls show only an 11 percent interest as an issue. Iraq is pretty much ancient history – EXCEPT FOR THE AIRHEADS ON HERE WHO CAN’T ACCEPT OUR SUCCESS THERE!!
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Obama’s birth certificate is real, it’s authenticated, so get over it.
If you have a problem with Obama’s stand on issues it would be great for you to share it with us all, otherwise stop the nonsense!
Posted by: Marion | September 13, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Posted by: Jimbo | Sep 13, 2008 7:38:24 PM
Wasn’t it Mission Accomplished about 5 years ago? If that were so, why are we still there.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
J. Thanks for your work supporting our troops and your dad for serving. My dad fought in WW2, as did many of his contemporaries, both democrats, republicans, aslo atheists, agnostics, etc. It’s senseless to respond to the “Eddies” of the world because they are under spell that even if a democrat and a republican were standing next to each other on the battlefield, they would still consider the republican a patriot and the democrat anti-American. They just can’t sort that stuff out in their brains. Sad, but true.
Posted by: marty Curran | September 13, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Posted by: timmaaa7 | Sep 13, 2008 7:47:03 PM
You people don’t get what the issue is. It’s not about the earmarks. It’s about lying. What they are saying about Sarah Palin not being for earmarks is untrue. She is one of the biggest porkers in the US.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Posted by: marty Curran | Sep 13, 2008 7:51:03 PM
I appreciate you father’s service as well. I just want to see this country back to the way it used to be. I am just tired of being lied to over the past 8 years and McCain/Palin seem to me that they will continue the Bush/Cheney fiasco.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Chad.
“My friend,” sorry that you are in denial. EVERY POLL IS DEAD EVEN? A few clicks of mouse COULD bring you back to reality!
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
watching 20/20 last night was discusting to say the least. we all understand all media is for entertainment only. this program was intended to be a magazine hour. it was rediculous to hear someone trying to define the canadates to me like I’m absent a brain. here’s a word for you, your interviewer listened like he was retarded, and spoke like he was too. Bias is one thing. ingorance another. stick with entertainment, or I’ll be going back to “Girls Next Door”.
Posted by: jeannemarie | September 13, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Posted by: Marion | Sep 13, 2008 7:51:19 PM
Thanks. I will check that one out too.
Well kids, I am out. I got off work at 730 am this morning and haven’t been to bed yet!
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Here’s what I don’t understand. McCain has never taken an earmark and I presume if gets into office he will attempt to continue that policy as much as possible. Why would Republican Senators and Congressmen support that?
Like their Democratic counterparts they often get earmarks for useful infrastructure and research projects. If McCain gets in, and he’s the maverick he says he is (an increasingly specious claim) he’s going to crack down on everyone, Republican and Democrat.
Why then would his own party want to make it harder for themselves to get earmarks? Why would they want the ultimate decision on what is an acceptable spend to be left to someone like McCain? It makes no sense.
Posted by: fggy | September 13, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Posted by: Temagami | Sep 13, 2008 7:33:29 PM
Cleaning out terorists trainning camps and preventing Iran from gaining a foothold was another.
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Good one. I can see you have a firm grasp of foreign policy issues. NOT.
1. There were no terrorist training camps in Iraq prior to our invasion of it.
2. By invading Iraq we CREATED a breeding ground for terrorist organization to test out new methods, and bring in new recruits.
So, on this score, our invasion of Iraq made things WORSE.
3. Before our invasion of Iraq, Iran had almost no influence in Iraq. After our invasion of Iraq, Iran was able to and continues to influence political events through its cross-border activities, supply of terrorist organizations that sprang up in Iraq after our invasion, and their support of militant shi’ite militias. An good argument can be made that the current, Shi’ite dominated government of Maliki is actually being BACKED by Iran, and surreptitiously doing Iran’s bidding.
4. Why no mention of Bush Oil? I’m sure Bush had hopes of exploiting Iraqi oil resources for his own benefit, but like so many of his other goals, he hasn’t managed to achieve this one either.
No matter. Now he’s set his sites on a more promising site for drilling: ANWR.
Finally, by invading Iraq, we actually emboldened Iran, and strengthened the hold of religious fundamentalists in that country. Which is, after all, next to Israel and Lebanon, the only country that even comes close to being a democracy.
AFTER our invasion of Iraq, Iran redoubled its efforts to build a nuclear bomb, became more resistant to international oversight, more active in its support of HAMAS and Hezbollah, more belligerant in its realtions with the West, more intransigient in its interactions with the United Nations oversight and other international oversight agencies.
And ALL thanks to Pres. Bush & John McCain.
Hey, thanks a lot guys! You really know how to stir up a mess.
Posted by: niccolo m@chiavelli | September 13, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
BTW, did you know that the Iraqis are so grateful to us for the freedom we’re shoving down their throats that they are awarding their oil contracts to the People’s Republic of China?
Can Sarah Palin see China or Iraq from Alaska?
Posted by: John | September 13, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I miss the enlightening Lipstick Debates.
Those were the days.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
NEWS ALERT.
Just reported by the Boston Globe, and others, Palin lied about visiting Irag. She visited Kuwait for a brief time and nerver entered Irag as confirmed by the Boston Globe and authorities in the Alaskan National Guard. Her “international experience” in Mexico was only a vacation; her trip to Ireland was only a plane refueling, and; she went to Canada in 2007, but the McCain/Palin campaighn won’t confirm what it was for. It appears to be a personal excursion as there is no record at this time of meetings with dignitaries.
Posted by: marty Curran | September 13, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
J.
We ended the war with N. Korea in the early 50s. WHY ARE WE STILL THERE? We ended the war with Germany and Japan in 1945. WHY ARE WE STILL THERE? I would explain it to you J, but if you cannot understand Manitu’s detailed account of why we went into Iraq – there is no way you can understand why our troops are being where they are. As someone mentioned (might have been me) Iraq is very low on the issue ladder (11 percen t).
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
niccolo.
Sources? Words on a screen……
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
j – the carrier’s mission was fullfilled which was operation shock and awe and in preparation and support for the ground troops going into iraq. the next operation iraqi freedom which was the defeat of the iraq military and goverment (meaning saddam, two son’s, and general’s) which that was mainly the air forces duty for air support with the navy in coastal support and back-up. the next operation was operation enduring freedom which is the one operation that has been the toughest and longest with more causualties due to the terrorist in and coming into iraq. get your fact’s straight you freaking angry liberal. you evidently do not understand how the structure of our armed forces work. the liberal media took the presidents comments out of context which is who you listen too, liberal’s. you defend your dumycrats when you think the other side is taken their words out of context, so get over it. mission accomplished was for the deployment of that carrier because they were the first deployed and the first coming home you moron! war’s are fought on many front’s and different time’s in many way’s. do you remember your buddy president clinton bombing serbia from the air with no ground troops. i wonder if you remember how many inoccent cilvilians were killed from the bombing, try thousands because the armies were intrenched in houses with the cilvilian’s yet you don’t hear about that, why is that? let’s see, the biased liberal media did not want your buddy clinton to look bad. by u.n. guidelines american reporter’s were not allowed to go into certain area’s of bombing due to the civilian death toll which was cleverly kept from the american people by not having american ground troops involved which whould have allowed reporter’s to see the devestation and report on it making your liberal buddy look bad. so president clinton started working with the republican controlled congress on domestic issue’s to keep our mind’s off of what was really going on there and how he dealt with the situation. you need to take your demacrapic talking points and stick them were the sun has never shined, your a**.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
niccolo.
If you indeed live in the USA which I really doubt, you will notice that the last time the terrorists attacked our homeland was when? 2001 – SEVEN YEARS AGO!! No thanks to your loser friends in Congress. But thanks to President Bush, our troops fighting the terrorists in mid-east, and to the combined intelligence agencies of US, Canada, Great Britain, France and Israel, for keeping out butts safe “over here!!” That record will change for the worse under a NO “EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE” OBAMA ADMINISTRATION!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Ever notice how the neo-cons howl when McCain is treated like Obama and his remarks are checked for accuracy? Ole John doesn’t stand up to well in the “honesty” department and his supporters don’t like it being pointed out.
Posted by: Kitty | September 13, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
timaaa7,
If “Mission Accomplished” was for the deployment of that CV, it was poor judgment (by someone who has a track record of that) to air it on National Television and imply otherwise.
Also backed up by Cheney/Rumsfeld and their repeated one liners”
“We’ve Turned the Corner”
“They Are on the Run”
etc.
If you like to read, read Bob Woodwards
interviews with your fearless leader
and then tell me who cares about our forces.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
j – she is not a porker with earmark’s you moron. she used her earmark’s in a responsable way. it is called pork when the earmark’s make no sense and waste tax payer’s money which is not what she did. earmark’s are legal and has been helping American’s since our founding. it’s when it’s wasteful spending on things not needed and make nosense that you call it pork! get your facts straight. pork is an example of taking advantage of tax payers money and good earmark’s are an example of being responsable with tax payer’s money.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
The Obama campaign has a cease and desist order re. anti Palin remarks. That will not stop the legions of liberal news freaks from going after her. PALIN’S ANSWER…. CHECK OUT RECENT TRENDS IN POLLS – ALL OF THEM… ie – FACTS TALK AND BS WALKS.
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
BTW,
Anyone have the GWB action figure in flight suit for sale? That little stunt was just for the benefit of the flight deck personnel according to some here.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
WOW!!! Beauty AND brains, wrapped up with INTEGRETY. Liberals don’t he a clue on what’s hit them. The Obama Lemmings have no argument that does not make themselves look like the lamest ‘gonna take my ball and go home’ wennies on the Planet!! LMAO!!
Keep telling it like it is to those O’lemmings in their fantasy land.
MCCAIN/PALIN — sanity makes a comeback in America.
Posted by: freethought4u | September 13, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Settle down people.
Let us all bow our heads and pray for a pipeline. Because that’s what God wants – a pipeline.
And if you haven’t seen it yet, there’s actually a VIDEO of Palin asking her church to pray for the construction of a pipeline. THIS is the person the Repubs wants to have as 2nd in command?
Posted by: God according to Palin | September 13, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
freethought4u,
MCCAIN/PALIN — sanity makes a comeback in America.
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A comeback from what?
You do know the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results don’t you?
The Ministry of Truth is passing around the Kool Aid again.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
timmaaa7
Easy, If you spent zillions of hours in front of airhead loon professors of whatever, you would be a little slow too.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.
So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agency.
True reform comes from the heart – it is better to feel your way than to think your way.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
LP…I believe the true story was like this:
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her altitude
and spotted a man in a boat below.
She shouted to him, “Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would
meet him an hour ago, but I don’t know where I am.”
The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, “You’re in a hot air
balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above
sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100
degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.
She rolled her eyes and said, “You must be a Democrat.”
“I am,” replied the man. “How did you know?”
“Well,” answered the balloonist, “everything you told me is technically
correct, but I have no idea what to do with your information, and I’m still
lost. Frankly, you’ve not been much help to me. And you are another liberal idiot”
The man smiled and responded, “You must be Hillary.”
“I am,” replied the woman balloonist. “How did you know?”
“Well,” said the man, “you don’t know where you are or where you’re going.
You’ve risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made
promises that you have no idea how to keep, and you expect the country your
problems. You’re in exactly the same position you were in before we met but,
somehow, now it’s the vast right wing conspiracy’s fault.”
“Who is that big eared dumbo in there with you?” asked the man!
The woman replied, “Oh that is just Obama. He is no help either since he is an idiot like me!”
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
“WOW!!! Beauty AND brains, wrapped up with INTEGRETY”
No suprise that a McCain supporter cannot spell ‘integrity’. Had you been unable to spell ‘brains’ you would have knocked it out of the park.
Posted by: Evan | September 13, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
To all you uneducated , bible loving racist rednecks , its about time the media uncovers all the bullshit lies the MCcain / Palin ticket are feeding the American people.. Our country is on a very dangerous path right now and you rednecks want this election to be a showcase on which presidential canditate is going to be the dumbest in the world . That seems to be the only way you people can indentify with your leaders..they have to lower themselves to your level …. the last 8 years have shown us what happens when you put a dumb guy in charge of this country…and you want 4 more years of that??? Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
Posted by: hvdk54 | September 13, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
You forget Palin has a month and half to stick her moose foot in her mouth. Couple that with McCain doing some more lying. People are not as stupid as they think.
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I agree with the first part. Moose foot still can blow it. But on FOX? Probably not. They’ll spoon feed her lead-in questions so she can recite her memorized answers. (This time without the deer in the headlights look)She won’t do more tha a couple interviews and then they’ll put her back in her box where she can’t screw up.
BUT EXPECT THE TOUGH QUESTIONS FROM FOX:
“Explain how a soccer mom becomes governor”
“Well I just think about what is best for America every morning and know things will work out”
“Wow. That was so inspiring to all of us. Thank you for your time.”
YAAAAAAAAK
But NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American public. They’ll buy anything if it’s marketed right.
Republican administrations always cater to the rich and screw the middle class. But every four years, the Republican leaders pull out their waving flags, play the national amthem, and say “un-patriotic” about their opponent. And it works!
The GOP never helps the majority of Americans, but the easily mislead will still vote for them. Uneducated rednecks who never learned to think vote on emotion, not policies. They just a’ love that wavin’ flag. And they aint gonna have no uppity ni%%er in the white house.(And these words are almost verbatim from interviews we conducted in VA)
The others are the fat cats like Carl Rove and friends who just want more money at the expense of the middle class. They’re the ones selling the story.
Posted by: Grumpy Old Man and the Pagent Princess | September 13, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
To all you uneducated , Obama loving racists, its about time the media uncovers all the bullshit lies the Obama/Biden ticket are feeding the American people.. Our country is on a very dangerous path right now and you liberals want this election to be a showcase on how to elect the dumbest candidate in the world . That seems to be the only way you people can indentify with your leaders..they have to lower themselves to your level …. the last 8 years have shown us what happens when you put a Clinton in charge of this country…and it takes a long time to clean up after him! Unbelievable!!!!!!!!
Posted by: hvdk45 | September 13, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
“WOW!!! Beauty AND brains, wrapped up with INTEGRETY”
No suprise that a McCain supporter cannot spell ‘integrity’. Had you been unable to spell ‘brains’ you would have knocked it out of the park.
DESREVES A REPOST…TOO FUNNY!
I is a Rubepublicin. I no Im smartr than ewe Democrates.
Posted by: Comedy Central | September 13, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
hvdk45 sez:
the last 8 years have shown us what happens when you put a Clinton in charge of this country…and it takes a long time to clean up after him!
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Well then using your argument we should be expected to clean up our own mess!
Finally, complete agreement on something.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
But NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American public. They’ll buy anything if it’s marketed right.
WRONG! We won’t buy Obama’s BS no matter how you market it. Rev Wrong made sure of that! Rezko, Sinclair, Ayers…etc.etc. No matter how you package a scumbag like Obama, he is still a racist scumbag!
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
she is not a porker with earmark’s you moron. she used her earmark’s in a responsable way. it is called pork when the earmark’s make no sense and waste tax payer’s money
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BRIDGE TO NOWHERE ANYONE? ANYONE? BEULLER? ANYONE?
YES, SHE DID SUPPORT IT. SHE DIDN’T BACK OFF UNTIL CONGRESS KILLED IT. JUST ANOTHER PALINIAN LIE.
Posted by: Palin for Pork | September 13, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
hvdk54
… and that “MY FRIEND” is also very PROFOUND!! TODAY’S POLLS GOT YOU DOWN?? Actually, I WOULD like four more years of keeping our butts safe over here. Increasing our domestic supply of oil and gas, NOW, to help buy us some time to develop alternative forms of energy that are in reality YEARS AWAY. I would like for the fed to cut corporate taxes (which are the 2nd highest in the world) and promote resurgence of private enterprise, which along with the independent spirit and Judeo-Christian value system – BUILT THIS NATION.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
hvdk45
How funny and sad ……I pray for you !! I bet the majority of people in this country are longing back to a CLINTON administration. The nineties were a time when ordinary people had jobs and prosperity …
Posted by: hvdk54 | September 13, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
I think Manitu might be a supply-sider.
That worked well.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Manitu…good post! I agree!
LP…I’m glad we agree about Rev Wright and Obama. Glad to know you are coming over on our side!
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Washington Post: Many Versions of ‘Bush Doctrine’ – Palin’s Confusion in Interview Understandable, Experts Say
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091203324.html
Posted by: LightSeeker | September 13, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Unlike the “bridge to nowhere”, the study of seals, sea lions, and halibut fisheries, and sea crabs appear to be related to stopping the decline of those populations. As they are related to the food supply and the economic livelihood of Alaskan populations, any university or bonafide study entity for the public good would welcome such funds.
Prioritize and cut out the wasteful spending. That is what McCain and Palin will do!
McCain/Palin ’08
Posted by: georgia | September 13, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
leonard – we’ve turned the corner, we got them on the run, your right about what they said but forgot one more thing, that mean’s on to the next mission, duh!!! McCain/Palin08
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Ed is awfully fearful of the black man’s uprising. Don’t them black folk know their place? Ultra-intelligent black folk scare ol’ Ed. Make him feel all uncomfortable and inferior.
Let’s get a couple white people with barely mediocre intellegence. Folk who barely got through school. They’re like Ed, so he’ll vote for em.
I got it! McCain and Palin. Neither was considered smart. Both did poorly in school. One was in the bottom 1% of his class and the other went to multiple schools just to get a journalism degree. HA HA HA HA HA HA…Journalism. My God we’re scraping the barrel to appeal to guys like ol ED aren’t we?
And why won’t Palin release her college transcripts exactly? Bet it isn’t because she was an A student. The GOP would have been salivating overthose transcripts if that were the case. But that’s ok because she’s ust like good ol’ Ed.
There ya go Ed. You can vote for the morons if it makes you feel better.
We’ll take the smart guys!
Posted by: Message for Good Ol Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Lightseeker,
Then why did she not take the opportunity to elaborate on “In What Context Charlie?”
and dazzle us with her foreign policy expertise.
That would have ended the subject. Another opportunity lost to engage us with her insight and wisdom.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
The anti Palin airheads have no Idea that it is in no small way one of the reasons the polls have gone bonkers for McCain/Palin. LIB ELEVATORS NOT GOING TO TOP??
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
McCain voted for the Republican leadership in Congress that let Abramoff and a horde of other K street lobbyists sneak earmarks into bills at the last minute without fingerprints or a chance to review them.
When the Democrats took over Congress after the 2007 election, the first thing they did was to be sure the source of every earmark was identified. So McCain may complain about earmarks, but by supporting the Republican leadership [by voting for them to lead the Senate] McCain supported the worst earmark abuse. Then he voted AGAINST the Democratic leadership that made the whole earmark process [which does bring things communities need, not just enriching lobbyists as the Republicans did] more transparent.
Posted by: Lynn | September 13, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Messenger,
Eds problem is that he knows in 20-30 years there won’t be enough Republicans left to elect a dog catcher and what he really fears is that all those non-whites will be making the 50′s permanently unreachable.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Why is everyone so hyped up to “drill baby drill”. We have a limited supply of this stuff and the minute the price goes up to 3$ you want to start drilling everywhere? (Not like that will really change the price… everyone pretty much agrees on this… we just don’t have very much oil even if we drill everywhere). In 10 years the price will be 10$ a gallon… we’ll get a hellofalot more for it then. Why don’t we save it til then… sounds like a pretty good way to make more money. Sell your resource when the price is really high. No?
Basically this looks to me like it is just the oil companies trying to make a quick buck. Companies would rather make 3$ now than 10$ later. Why? Because the present CEO wants the profits now rather than when he’s been replaced.
Dont’ be stupid. Leave the stuff in the ground til you can get a decent price for it.
Posted by: drill | September 13, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Manitu
Build this nation!!! To-day our nation is owned by foreigners.. We talk tough on China,Russia but it’s all BULL …
we are totally powerless … If those governments including Japan would demand all monies we owe right now we would be bankrupt. Our financial system is in such shambles to-day ..All because of bad governmentpolicies which Mccain palin will continue…just borrow money and put the country in more debt….. have you forgotten who has been in charge for the past 8 years ..future generations will suffer tremendously from these past 8 years of mismanagement. where have you been ???on the moon…
Posted by: hvdk54 | September 13, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
drill,
The Rovian idea here is that if the economy crashes before the election it will be proof that we need Republicans to get us out of the mess they created by not having an energy policy for the last 8 years.
Wait, I can’t say that in honesty. Cheney had those meetings behind closed doors and won’t release the transcripts so maybe this is the policy after all.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Everybody knows by now that the truth is a liberal bias.
The GOP is strictly anti-truth!
Posted by: Truth Matters | September 13, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Washington Post: Many Versions of ‘Bush Doctrine’ – Palin’s Confusion in Interview Understandable, Experts Say
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091203324.html
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 13, 2008 9:12:49 PM
The thing is he said what do you interpret it to be? Her answer was wayyyyy off. She had a chance, she failed.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Does anyone even remember McCain’s involvement in Keating 5. For those of you who dont’ know.. basically he accused of corruption. He escaped being thrown in jail, but was slapped with a reprimand for very “poor judgement”. This poor judgement cost the taxpayers — 124 BILLION DOLLARS! when the S+L collapsed due to poor oversight and poor judgement. Just look up the details on google.
This is not the guy I want in the white house.
Poor judgement: Like sending the army to Iraq when we don’t have an exit plan. Cost to taxpayers: 1 TRILLION DOLLARS. End result — Al Qaida is stronger, Iran is stronger.
Poor judgement McCain.
Posted by: Keating5 | September 13, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Truth Matters,
GIBSON: But it’s now pretty clearly documented. You supported that bridge before you opposed it. You were wearing a T-shirt in the 2006 campaign, showed your support for the bridge to nowhere.
PALIN: I was wearing a T-shirt with the Zip code of the community that was asking for that bridge.
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How True.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
And Obama lied about not knowing what Rev. Wright was really saying about White Folks. Every candidate can withstand a few skeletons in their closets (but not too many)and must have pluses as far as the voter is concerned to outweigh the minuses.
Why are the Alaskan earmarks such a big issue now, but weren’t years ago except for the Bridge to Nowhere? What about the millions upon millions in other states? Why is it a problem that she later rejected the bridge plan in the original form, long before she was VP candidate?
How come voters don’t complain about pork in THEIR backyards-just in other states and when it makes those they oppose look bad? If you or I had a politician bring in millions of Federal dollars into OUR state we’d be like, “Wow, he/she’s really looking out for us!” It’s all hypocrisy.
Earmarks are a sham plain and simple. If appropriations can’t stand on their own they shouldn’t make it to the President’s desk, and they also can cripple more important legislation by veto because of the pork coupled to it. And no president is going to veto a bill providing funding for homeless, one-legged, abused puppies.
Pork will always be there, but at least let it stand alone, and be fought over in Congress through the usual give and take, wheeling and dealing of politics so that hopefully the stuff that benefits few citizens will not see the light of day.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 13, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
timmaaa7.
You may have observed, it’s fairly easy to tell military or former military from the wannabees. This morning I was attacked by VIET NAM VET FOR OBAMA (on ABC Site) After my response – never heard from him again. Actually, anyone who can spell correctly would have caught this fool. NOT THE FIRST TIME. One of the ploys the libs are using, is to show military support for Obama. The communists were (and are) MASTERS OF DECEIT. Some of these crazies are just bringing it up to date.
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Chad.
“My friend,” sorry that you are in denial. EVERY POLL IS DEAD EVEN? A few clicks of mouse COULD bring you back to reality!
Posted by: Jimbo | Sep 13, 2008 7:54:40 PM
haha, +2, +3 isn’t huge. Esp. with sampling errors of +/- 4%. I’ll concede mccain is up in some, but other polls say tie or obama +1. they are in a STATISTICAL DEAD HEAT.
Posted by: Chad | September 13, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Leonard…you and Obama seem to have the same racist problems you accuse me of! Funny you should mention dog catcher
because that is about all Obama is qualified for! Thanks for the info…and good luck supporting an America hating sleaze like Obama and his Uncle Rev Wright! You must belong to that same church, right??!!
P.S. I am not a Republican…I am an independent!
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
GOP,
I actually agree with you and your assessment of the situation. The problem comes when you run on a platform that says “I Will Eliminate Pork!!” and not explain how such a thing can be accomplished. It isn’t a confidence builder.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Ed,
Whatever your political affiliations are, your fear is palpable. Not really sure why you see yourself as an independent but that is your business.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Jimbo.
I never claimed to be ex-military.
I just wanted to follow up on timmaaa7′s
comment that the Mission Accomplished banner was for the flight deck along with his jump suit.
So I’ll ask you. Was it?
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
What gets me the most about thisjoke of a VP candidate is that as governor of Alaska she kept the federal money after the “Bridge to Nowhere” was dead (then claimed she put a stop to it)and said if they wanted a bridge that Alaska would pay for it. Well she used the federal dollars put earmarked for the bridge to build the “Road to Nowhere”. Now if they wanted a road why did they not build it themself? Here she was given $1000 dollar checks back to Alaskan citizens due to tax revenue from the high cost of gas, and at the same time she is using federal tax payer’s money for a “Road to Nowhere”. i think instead of giving $1000 checks to Alaskans that she could have used that money to build the “Road to Nowhere”. She is a complete liar and a fake. She is no “Reformer”. A reformer would not have kept the money put aside for the bridge and then use it on a road. That is not doing away with wasteful spending, but the true definition of wasteful spending in itself. By the way, for all those who say she has such a high approval rating as governor, what do you expect when she is giving each Alaskan a $1000? That is why she has a high approval rating.
Posted by: Brandon M Casey | September 13, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Leonard…duh…I guess you are right. I should have seen what a wonderful breath of fresh air Obama is. Rev Wright is also a great preacher. Rezko is an honest businessman and Ayers is just a misunderstood mad man with a chip on his shoulder! Sinclair only used drugs with Obama but didn’t actually have a gay relationship with him. He didn’t actually inhale and there was no anal penetration! Oh now I get it..this is what makes Obama so very presidential. Right!!!
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Ed,
Everyone will see what they want to and our food-fight here will likely change nothing.
I don’t know about you but I do this for the fun of it.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
These libs are in a tough spot. They NEED to tear down Gov Palin in every possible way, but on the other hand fair minded Americans of ALL persuasions have ALWAYS rallied around someone who is unfairly being trashed. Recent polls seem to confirm that statement. ALSO, ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS MOST NEWS MEDIA IS SUPPORTING OBAMA – SOME VERY OPENLY, SUCH AS NY TIMES AND MSNBC, IS THAT THEIR FINANCIAL LIFE IS TIED TO AN OBAMA VICTORY. THEIR CORRUPTION HAS COST THEM BIG TIME – AMERICANS ARE NOT STUPID. MANY NEWSPAPERS ARE IN TROUBLE ANYWAY, BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN CORRUPTION… THEY NEED HELP ….. AND THEY ARE COUNTING ON THAT HELP FROM THE DEMS!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Later Peeps,
I expect you to have this all sorted out by the time I return.
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Leonard…you are right and on that we can agree! (After all we are all Americans) I just do it to see if I can get someone pissed. Obviously, you are too intelligent for that! I had some on here real upset with me earlier! Later!
Posted by: Ed | September 13, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Can’t help myself.
Yep Those Corporate Suits who have to answer to their stockholders every 3 months and will do ANYTHING to increase the value of their commercial airtime are biased toward someone who will likely support increased anti-trust regulation
of their industry.
That’s it, gotta go
Posted by: Leonard Peltier | September 13, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I agree, Leonard. It does raise serious questions that they must either clarify or own up to. That would be refreshing coming from any politician. But I am convinced that McCain is against corruption and has walked the walk better than most in Congress.
Someone here mentioned Wal-Mart? Hillary Clinton sat on their board of directors when they were in the process busting unions representing Wal-Mart employees. She did nothing, said nothing, and refused to be interviewed on the matter. I don’t understand this perception that the Democratic Party supports labor…neither party does in my book.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4218509
At least the Daly machine did some good.
I’m an active union member and shop steward for several years now. I have yet to see one thing that any political party has done for labor. It wasn’t just Reagan busting PATCO, but there was also Truman fighting a railroad workers strike in 1950.
The old ‘solid south’ that the Democrats used to run have made it so that unions are still weak in the South to this day. They used black prisoners hired out in shady deals to contractors-de facto slavery really.
Minimum wage is a tool employers use to keep wages low. They have the attitude of, “Well, that’s all we legally have to pay you…take it or leave it.” And a quarter an hour raise means you should name their first born after the boss I guess.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | September 13, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
jimbo – great point, they get mad, point thier finger, then run (maybe to canada)because they have no point or proof of anything, the reason they run is because they are weak in moral’s and are just angry and ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
The American people beganing to see that Sarah Palin is a very inteligent women, and a real leader.Obama is not a leader , bashing everything American and insulting is not leadership. McCain/Palin will be good for America.
Posted by: Jambres | September 13, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
hey jimbo——-REMEMBER THE FORESTAL.——REMEMBER PROPAGANDA FROM THE HANOI HILTON.
MCCAIN IS A –D—STUDENT JUST PLAIN DUMB DUMB
GOODNIGHT.
GOODBY
Posted by: rodney | September 13, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Goodnite Rodney!
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Jambres.
Agree about Palin. She is also a very CLASSY LADY. Sadly, many on this site have no idea what the term means. And, actually, despite all the spin, SHE DOES HAVE MORE “EXCUTIVE EXPERIENCE” THAN OBAMA AND BIDEN COMBINED!! AS THEY SAY…. YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
rodney – abraham lincoln was bad in school and had trouble reading and pronouncing words, and since he was from a poor family he had to stay home and help the family survive. and what did he do, he worked hard and educated himself and look where that took him. you democrats critized him then on his speech and so called lack of foreign experience and look what he did. john f. kennedy was not at the top of his class in school yet he commanded a boat in ww2, and look what he went on to do, become president, robert kennedy was the smartest in his family when it came to books but also had heart just like his brother to back it up. my point is you don’t have to be A+ book smart to have commonsense to do the right thing. people with true hearts and commonsense surround themselves with book smart people to do the right things and have multiple avenue’s to take for the best interest of thier position, which is serve and protect this nation and it’s people, not to destroy this nation and it’s people. like you said, goodnight and goodbye to jimbo, i guess you must of took off to canada?
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
From what I’ve seen, I like Palin on a personal level and Bush for that matter. But, it does not change the fact that she is ill-prepared to be Vice President. She offers Obama-like platitudes with no substance and without at least the ‘hope’ Obama offers.
Worse for McCain, he has chosen someone as polarizing as Hillary Clinton. Someone who clearly generates divisiveness when our country needs unity. It’s disappointing, because he would’ve won with Romney and could have actually gotten something accomplished. Now, even if he wins, his pyrrhic tactics lead to two more years of stalemate with a democratic congress.
I’m not sure what to think of the GOP anymore. They don’t seem to stand for anything anymore and seem to want to become Democrats.
Posted by: 1percenter | September 13, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Just read the well documented (sources named etc.) large article about Palin as an Alaskan politician in The New York Times.
Wow.
If the masses still support her after all we learned about her this week, it can only be because they’re cynical and do not trust Washington politics anyway.
Palin and her hubby are the prime examples of “old boy” and “old girl” politics. I’m convinced now that McCain, who alas has turned into McNasty again in this campaign, did not have her thoroughly vetted.
The NYT report is a disaster for the GOP ticket.
Posted by: harriet | September 13, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Manitu.
You forgot about Gov. Palin’s 80 percent approval rating. Libs are afraid. THE MEDIA’S “GOTTCHA ON THAT ONE,PALIN” MENTALITY, kinda sorta pales by comparison. And remember that most of the news media HAS A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN GETTING OBAMA ELECTED – GOV. PALIN IS A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THEM -HENCE – TRASH THE LADY!!!
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Harriet.
WOW!! THE NY TIMES TRASHES PALIN? I DON’T BELIEVE IT!!
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Sarah Palin-
Unqualified
Religious wacko
Liar
Scandal after scandal
Warmongerer
Thinks Iraq caused 9/11
Thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Fires people for personal vendettas
George Bush with lipstick!
Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Yep, you’ve got it right GOP. All the media is biased towards you, everyone is sexist, and Barack Obama is apparently a radical black Muslim with Indonesian citizenship (even though he was born in the US and is a Christian), and Charles Gibson just wants to take down Palin. Give it up! The GOP is pathetic. Think Palin’s interview was tough? Check out Obama’s interview with Bill O’Reilley. Barack held his own, and even neo-con God Bill O’Reilley admitted that he was impressed by Obama and that he could clearly sense Obama’s sincerity and conviction. We don’t need a bunch of sissies in the White House who cry sexism when Ahmadimajad makes Palin cry. Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: Kristen | September 13, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Temagami, the NYT is not simply trashing Palin in today’s large article. They did a great journalistic job, the kind of job a democracy has its free press for: truth finding. And my o my, the Palin truths will be hard to swallow for a lot of her initial, uninformed supporters.
Posted by: brent | September 13, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Bob.
PROFOUND. NO WONDER THE TERRORISTS THINK THAT WE’RE A BUNCH OF WHACKOS!!
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Republicans need to change their party’s mascot from an elephant to an ostrich because they do not listen to reason and only bury their heads in the sand. They back a lying, bible thumping, hypocrit for VP. So much for Republican family values. LOL No matter how much evidence turns up about how much like Bush that Palin is, they will argue and bash Democrats and claim she is a reformer, they label us as “Liberals”. I love being called a “Liberal”. It means I am open minded and can think for myself. I am not a “conservative” puppet. It is pretty sad when the republicans have to try to run a BS campaign against their own party. McBush tried to criticize Obama for never voting against his party. That is funny. Why would he have to vote against his party if they are trying to change from the crooked republicans? I mean that is why democrats have a majority in both houses. As for all you moronic republicans saying it is a “Do nothing congress”, they do not have a fillibuster proof majority yet. They have passed a lot of good legislation, but have not had a fillibuster proof majority yet. There are too many of the past 8 years narrow minded republicans as well as the worst president in history keeping them from passing good legislation. I am optomistic that will change after Nov. 4th though. When Barrack is president and the democrats gain even more seats. Then you will see a lot of things change for the better. Reap the whirlwind you worthless republicans.
Posted by: Brandon M Casey | September 13, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
brent
….and the NYT also has a major financial interest in getting Obama elected!!! As does MSNBC, among others. SO WHAT IS THE “BIG NEWS” THIS TIME?
Posted by: Temagami | September 13, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I have no inside knowledge of what terrorists think, like the poster above, but I do know we should not go about putting unprepared people in the Executive branch. I thought that of Obama and now feel the same about Palin. Unlike the intellectually dishonest bloggers who railed against Obama and now swoon over Palin, I think that there needs to be some consistency here.
Posted by: 1percenter | September 13, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Sarah Palin-
Unqualified
Forgot a couple-
Religious wacko
Liar
Scandal after scandal
Warmongerer
Thinks Iraq caused 9/11
Thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Fires people for personal vendettas
Barely made it through college
Bought and sold by big oil
Book banner
Failed world geography
Can’t expalin the Bush doctrine just like Bush can’t
George Bush with lipstick!
Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Interesting that a bunch of Dems comes on this site out of the blue. Hmmmmm.
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
bob – nice one liners you moron, can you show us anymore anger and ignorance which is evidently your democratic plato! democrats never lie? that’s a freakin joke you lib.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Hey libs, I’ll hang around with some in-depth discusion of issues? Anyone? Second shift dem bloggers see the polls today?
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Sarah Palin-
Forgot a couple of more
Grossly Unqualified
Religious wacko
Liar
Scandal after scandal
Warmongerer
Thinks Iraq caused 9/11
Thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Fires people for personal vendettas
Barely made it through college
Bought and sold by big oil
Book banner
Failed world geography
Can’t expalin the Bush doctrine just like Bush can’t
Thinks gay is a choice
Appoints incompetent cronies to official positions
Thinks torture is a Christian value
Wants to force rape and incest victims to have the baby
Against sex ed (how ironic)
Can’t answer questions withou flashcards
Avoids press conferences
George Bush with lipstick!
Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Fact aren’t liberally biased. That’s the problem when it comes to McCain/Palin.
Posted by: freedomfighter1975 | September 13, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Palin’s problem is not that she was mayor of a small town or has only been in the Alaska governor’s office a short while. Her problem (and now ours) is that she is not well versed on the critical matters confronting the country at one of the most crucial turning points in its history.
The economy is in a tailspin. The financial sector is lurching about on rubbery legs. We’re mired in self-defeating energy policies. We’re at war. And we are still vulnerable to the very real threat of international terrorism.
With all of that and more being the case, how can it be a good idea to set in motion the possibility that Americans might wake up one morning to find that Sarah Palin is president?
Posted by: Hillaria | September 13, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Some of you are ignorant. You blatantly ignore the facts and treat them as fables. The truth of the matter is Obama requested about 97 million for 2008. Meanwhile Palin has requested 197 million. In addition, her per capita earmarks amountto over 257 per person in her state, whereas Obama’s amount to only 22 dollars per person in his senatorial district. A huge difference.
Posted by: william | September 13, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Sarah Palin-
Forgot a couple of more
Grossly Unqualified
Religious wacko
Liar
Scandal after scandal
Warmongerer
Thinks Iraq caused 9/11
Thinks the earth is 6000 years old
Fires people for personal vendettas
Barely made it through college
Bought and sold by big oil
Book banner
Failed world geography
Can’t expalin the Bush doctrine just like Bush can’t
Thinks gay is a choice
Appoints incompetent cronies to official positions
Thinks torture is a Christian value
Wants to force rape and incest victims to have the baby
Against sex ed (how ironic)
Can’t answer questions withou flashcards
Avoids press conferences
Denies global warming
Okay with polar bears drowning
Buddy of indicted Senator Ted Stevens
Gets paid to stay home while not working
Against women’s rights
Refuses to cooperate in investigations of herself- cites executive privledge
Goes AWOL from her job frequently
Buddy of John McCain
Supports George Bush 100% (not 90)
George Bush with lipstick!
Posted by: Bob | September 13, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
timmaaa7
I am not asking your age. I am almost 70, but can you imagine an adult in the 1950s (of any political persuasion)witnessing Bob’s current posts? I am sure that he has no idea what I am talking about when I say that what he has written shows how far we have gone down as a nation (assuming that he is an American).
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
I agree with Bob.
Posted by: J | September 13, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Wait till these airhead libs see todays polls. NC, VA, OH, ND, NM , CO – turnng red and PA has closed pretty close.
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
polls are for strippers
Posted by: 1percenter | September 13, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
It’s refreshing to me that Mccain and Palin have differnt views on some things. The thought of Joe Biden, Oblahblahblah and a Democratic controlled congress all at one time makes me think about investing in something overseas.
Posted by: Kitty | September 13, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
“The NYT report is a disaster for the GOP ticket.”
Preaching to the choir. NY times is only relevant to the far-left.
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Kitty: if you haven’t invested in something overseas already, you are unwise, the returns have been much better than the US market.
Posted by: 1percenter | September 13, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
“Okay with polar bears drowning
Buddy of indicted Senator Ted Stevens
Gets paid to stay home while not working
Against women’s rights
Refuses to cooperate in investigations of herself- cites executive privledge
Goes AWOL from her job frequently
Buddy of John McCain
Supports George Bush 100% (not 90)
George Bush with lipstick!”
Matt Damon, is that you?
Posted by: Mack | September 13, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Manitu.
I thought that the definition of a liberal is one who considers all sides of an issue objectively, and then makes a determination on that issue based upon inductive or deductive reasoning? With those profound words of humor, I’ll say nite, nite!!
Posted by: Jimbo | September 13, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
*yawn* ABC is just comedy hour and the only reason I come here. Their liberal bias is so so obvious. One reason this Hillary supporter is voting for the McCain/Palin ticket is they have differnce of opinion on some issues ie abortion, and that to me will mean that maybe, just maybe some compromises will be made with both parties to put this COUNTRY FIRST. Gooooo Sarah you mop the floor with them. McCain/Palin08
Posted by: Dot | September 13, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Kitty.
If Obama is elected, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT IN A VERY LONG LINE TO INVEST OVERSEAS. SO MUCH FOR OBAMA’S PLAN TO SOCK IT TO THE FAT CATS – UP TO US POOR SLOBS STO PAY OBAMA’S BILL NOW. WOOPIE!!
Posted by: Manitu | September 13, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
hillaria – correction, you libs are the one’s in a tailspin, and you all are out of control with no return, thank GOD.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
bob – your parent’s must have dropped you on your head more than once, the must have been more worried about that joint and line of coke then your mental stability and well-being. i can really tell now you have no moral’s in that wasted skeleton.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Bob, typical I am going to make up as much fiction as I can and they will not pay attention to our over whelming short comings. Stutter much, I did not know it affected the typing aspect. Grow up.
Jimbo, Bob has no clue and I am scared of this generations way of solving problems and disagreements.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Will someone tell me the names of all the states that did not request money from Congress? Every state, university, city and small town request funds. Many have specialist who write the request.The real issue is how the request was made not that it was made. Wake up and give her a break.
Posted by: William | September 13, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Boy are the liberals reaching here. Charlie Gibson is so boring, questions straight from the democratic playbook. Sarah held her own and gave some great answerers concerning abortion and her answer on God’s plan was just outstanding. Liberals now think that you are a “wacko” if you believe in God. Sarah is in good company with Presidents who believed that God has a plan. This is mainstream Christianity, with Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, JKF and now Sarah Palin believing that God is in fact God and that God has a plan for good in this world. Obama’s remark of people being bitter, clinging to their religion and guns, and now Charlie Gibson falls right into the mainstream liberal mindset. There are a lot of Christians in the United States and Liberals need to think again when they go down this road of attacking people of faith. Liberals trying to make Sarah Palin out to be a radical is going to back fire. Just like their sexist attacks and lies concerning her personal life.
Sure she changed her mind on the Bridge to Nowhere. And this was the right thing to do. She also sold the Governor’s jet, let the Governor’s chief go and drives herself to work. Liberals fail to mention that Obama submitted 114 earmarks last year with his wife receiving a $195,000 raise for her husband (Obama), now Senator, getting the Hospital she works at a $1 million earmark. Now, Obama has also changed his mind concerning earmarks. However, McCain has a consistent record against earmarks with $0 earmarks last year.
Posted by: Lyndylou | September 13, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
William, all 57 states, just ask Obama.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
jimbo – i am 31 and was raised on christian moral’s from my grandmother. i love my parents dearly, but even their ways where example’s of the future of our kids and how they would act and treat other’s. this to me sir is actually what i call the 2nd greatest generation, but only to our service member’s this time around. ww1 and ww2 men and women have my up most respect of their duty, strenght, and honor at home and in service of this country. since i had a chance to know some of those people who dealt with those moment’s of change, that’s were i gained that respect. most women now day’s are selfish and ignorant of reality and most of today’s men are moron sperm donor’s with no idea of how to treat a woman and raise a decent respectful kid. GOD, please have mercy on this nation is Jesus name, Amen
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
PALIN IS THE NAZI OF THE NORTH!!
Throughout her career, Sarah Palin has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and blurred the line between government and personal grievance…
Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy.
Rick Steiner, a University of Alaska professor, sought the e-mail messages of state scientists who had examined the effect of global warming on polar bears. (Ms. Palin said the scientists had found no ill effects, and she has sued the federal government to block the listing of the bears as endangered.)
An administration official told Mr. Steiner that his request would cost $468,784 to process!!!
When Mr. Steiner finally obtained the e-mail messages — through a federal records request — he discovered that state scientists had in fact agreed that the bears were in danger, records show.
“Their secrecy is off the charts,” Mr. Steiner said.
Dan Fagan, a prominent conservative radio host and longtime friend of Ms. Palin, urged his listeners to vote for her in 2006. But when he took her to task for raising taxes on oil companies, he said, he found himself branded a “hater.”
It is part of a pattern, Mr. Fagan said, in which Ms. Palin characterizes critics as “bad people who are anti-Alaska.”
Sound familiar? Unpatriotic (or hater) if you opposed Bush, his policies or his insane war??
We don’t need this kind of administration again, turning this country into some kind of a information black hole and a police state!!!
NO HOW, NO WAY, NO McCAIN NO PALIN!!!
Vote for smart leadership this time, vote Obama/Biden 2008!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 13, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Hey Kin since no one can find a birth certificate maybe he was hatched . Linda in carolina when were we bombed looked like jet planes going into these buildings not bombs. When China wants the money the USA has borrowed what is this country going to do?? Give them part of the USA and change the name to New China niccolio now here is someone with their head in the sand and it must have been there for some time
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | September 13, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
It’s scary how sarah palin lies with ease !!! and she stands on her lies!!
It’s a scary Bush clone, maybe the next STALIN of the history of the USA !!!
Posted by: tomq | September 13, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Did you know there are 2 people running for VP?
Why is not one from the AP covering Joe Biden?
Does everything have to be about Wailing Palin?
Come on ABC, lets report on the whole crew here… you keep leaving out Biden
Posted by: l | September 13, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
THats all they’ve done for 2 weeks now-find something wrong with Palin to drag down mccain
from NYT and CNN and donnt even bother listening to msnbc. that one is obama forum
they were already getting ready for the obama coronation. we sent them packing,,, we rained on their parade.
Hurrican Palin is coming back tomorrow, so tell obama to go into hiding.
Media Obamamaniacs.. advocate journalism..an insult to 1st amendment.
Obama appears very bemused and confused..
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | September 13, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
McCAIN AND PALIN ARE BOTH LIARS!!!
The pile of lies is getting bigger by the minute!! Let’s get Palin in front of a news conference with real questions and reporters, not this “Charlie Gibson softball BS” at Palin’s home in Alaska…
What kind of nonsense is this???
She wants to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency, the most important job in the world? OK, let’s grill her then! None of this softball stuff!!!
THIS IS IMPORTANT AMERICANS, REMEMBER COUNTRY FIRST!!!!
Come on Republicans, what are you afraid of?? Obama does it all the time and Biden too!!!
There are 7 weeks to go kids and McCain and Palin are already “flaming out!”
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Vote for real leaders that don’t read from a script! Obama/Biden 2008!!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 13, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
If Obama gets in we will have the best organizer in the world. That comes in handy when asked to make American life changing decisions. Organizer definition from Answers.com: 1. To put together into an orderly, functional, structured whole.
2.
1. To arrange in a coherent form; systematize: organized her thoughts before speaking.
2. To arrange in a desired pattern or structure: “The painting is organized about a young reaper enjoying his noonday rest” (William Carlos Williams).
3. To arrange systematically for harmonious or united action: organize a strike. See synonyms at arrange.
4.
1. To establish as an organization: organize a club. See synonyms at found1.
2. To induce (employees) to form or join a labor union.
3. To induce the employees of (a business or an industry) to form or join a union: organize a factory.
v.intr.
1. To develop into or assume an organic structure.
2. To form or join an activist group, especially a labor union.
[Middle English organisen, from Old French organiser, from Medieval Latin organizāre, from Latin organum, tool, instrument. See organ.]
organizer or’gan·iz’er n.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Obama appears very bemused and confused..
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | Sep 14, 2008 12:59:46 AM
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I don’t think so fool! you better go to you tube and watch his speech today in New Hampshire in front of 10,000!
Obama is back on his game Republican idiots and there are still 7 weeks to go!!!
Obama/Biden 2008!!!
Posted by: Davis | September 13, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
This is hard to believe. Sarah Palin has began to use that line again about the bridge to nowhere. Utterly shameless.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/13/1394679.aspx
Posted by: Evan | September 13, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I am writing form Germany. Anybody who have seen the whole Palin interview MUST recognize that she is NOT AT ALL QUALIFIED to be vice president of the grand and proud United States of America. I admire you country so much, you have done so many great things to the world and for the freedom of all people in you history. I would not care if it is Obama or McCain, but this woman has absolutely no clue of anything. I mean she may be a good mayor but the national stage is far too big for her. The pick of her for VP was only intended to fool you guys, only to have an attractive candidate that can get votes. But she does not stand for any issues, of course she has her views, but is that enough to be VP? We all have views, but to be a VP of the big United States of America, whose politics influence the life of the whole world she is not at all qualified. The republicans have so many good politicians, but now the whole campaign has turned into a circus game. The republicans blame Obama for being a celebrity but play the celebrity card at the same time. Thats double standard. A woman who does not even now that her county can attack other countires preemtively is NOT NOT qualified to get such an important position. What if McCain gets a heartattack? The she is your president guys. Please don´t let your country be fooled. Stand up for another republican VP or vote Obama/Biden. Times are too serious to play games.
greetings from Berlin
Ben
Posted by: Ben | September 13, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
I am writing form Germany. Anybody who have seen the whole Palin interview MUST recognize that she is NOT AT ALL QUALIFIED to be vice president of the grand and proud United States of America. I admire you country so much, you have done so many great things to the world and for the freedom of all people in you history. I would not care if it is Obama or McCain, but this woman has absolutely no clue of anything. I mean she may be a good mayor but the national stage is far too big for her. The pick of her for VP was only intended to fool you guys, only to have an attractive candidate that can get votes. But she does not stand for any issues, of course she has her views, but is that enough to be VP? We all have views, but to be a VP of the big United States of America, whose politics influence the life of the whole world she is not at all qualified. The republicans have so many good politicians, but now the whole campaign has turned into a circus game. The republicans blame Obama for being a celebrity but play the celebrity card at the same time. Thats double standard. A woman who does not even now that her county can attack other countires preemtively is NOT NOT qualified to get such an important position. What if McCain gets a heartattack? The she is your president guys. Please don´t let your country be fooled. Stand up for another republican VP or vote Obama/Biden. Times are too serious to play games. Please excuse my bad english, it is not my mothertongue.
greetings from Berlin
Ben
Posted by: Ben | September 13, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Obama/Biden 2008!!!, Obama tried a large presentation before. I can not wait to see if he is nominated for an Emmey.
Evan, If you do not use the whole situation a person can change the meaning of almost anything. Why is Biden hiding at home? I think he wishes he was on McCain’s ticket as he said he would if asked during the primaries.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
ARRRRRG! you dang fools!
Posted by: Thinking | September 13, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Funny thing about that grizzly bear study that ABC forgot, I believe McCain voted to authorize it.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | September 13, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
rose – how did china get 3/4 of their wealth? U.S.A! if you would stop buying their cheap bull crap product we would not be in that situation with china! buy mexican and south american and give them the jobs and trade agreement’s and the border problem would solve it’s self. democrats are the one’s in bed with china. republican’s have more commonsense of how to deal with the immigration situation with trade deal’s that create jobs with border security, not unrealistic deal’s with china who does not give a crap about the U.S.A. why do you think china makes and sells that crap so cheap, money! and it’s your money going in thier pocket’s.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Obama’s blogs are even filtering the posts. I have had two that were submitted and they said it is being cached. Never showed up. MSNBC Obama blog.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
“democrats are the one’s in bed with china”
The facts say otherwise. John McCain’s senior advisor Charlie Black is a lobbiest for a Chinese Government owned Oil Company.
Posted by: _ | September 13, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Regarding the internet rumor about a lawsuit challenging Obama’s citizenship, it is false. I recommend the following:
http://www.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/1714085.aspx
John McCain was born in Panama. I would note that John McCain was not born in the US, but is, apparently considered a natural born citizen, so how could it be different for Obama? The justification for McCain being regarded as a natural born citizen comes from a 1790 congressional act that states that children of citizens are considered natural born, regardless of their place of birth (http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_can_panamanian-born_mccain_be_elected_president.html). THEREFORE OBAMA IS A CITIZEN REGARDLESS OF HIS PLACE OF BIRTH UNLESS JUST AS JOHN MCCAIN IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REGARDLESS OF HIS PLACE OF BIRTH. If you challenge one, you must challenge the other.
Posted by: DrDLO | September 13, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Re: Earmarks. Basically it comes down to earmark requesters being children in a candy store and congress being the parent. Kids want candy and it’s the responsibility of parents to say no because they have the responsibility for the budget. If congress wanted to give money to Alaska, why should Alaska (or Illinois) refuse? I put the blame on Obama and Biden (and congress as a whole) for the earmark problem. Palin was just doing her job trying to better her city and state.
Posted by: David | September 13, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
davis – first of all, do not use the presidency as a tool for most important job in the world you fool. the president serves the people of the united states, not other countries. you must have dream’s of a one world goverment run by osama, wait, sorry obama. country first? then vote McCain/Palin you idiot! i guess a senator with less executive experience running for the presidency is a better choice than a V.P. with more executive experience, give me a break. what about biden taking over for obama, or are you still dreaming of a hillary resurgence to power. biden has been in the senate longer than McCain! president clinton never had foreign relations experience, only executive from his govenorship, and you still elected him. so what’s so bad about someone who is American born and raised with moral’s with executive experience for V.P. like Gov. Palin. if she is so inexperienced let her learn more while serving as V.P. or would rather have the president have no executive experience and learn as he goes from a 30yr. senator as V.P. who also has no executive experience also. use your freaking brain you moron and this country will be better off.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
david – you have it right on the mark (earmarks).
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
“Re: Earmarks. Basically it comes down to earmark requesters being children in a candy store and congress being the parent. Kids want candy and it’s the responsibility of parents to say no because they have the responsibility for the budget. If congress wanted to give money to Alaska, why should Alaska (or Illinois) refuse? I put the blame on Obama and Biden (and congress as a whole) for the earmark problem. Palin was just doing her job trying to better her city and state.”
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That’s the most wilfully myopic thing I have read all day. You blame the Democratic candidates for your candidate being caught out in a massive lie about her claims on earmarks and spending. You will invert logic simply to hold onto your cherished image of her even though she has attempted every day to deceive your party and the country. Remarkable – you deserve her.
Posted by: Reggie | September 13, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
davis, no way, no how, no mac cant…no mc alzheimers, no mc lame, no mc no way.
go dems, i truly believe that if and when obama wins the election, he will pick hillary as secretary of state. that would be perfect for her. i just hope that mc can’t mc alzheimers mc dumb mc idiot doesn’t win…hahahahahahahahahaha
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
carlasue – you seem to have a serious speech problem. if you are educated talk normal, if not, then need to rap with some commensense!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
timmaa, sorry if i misspelled. for goodness sakes, you are attacking davis just because he is open minded and speaks his opinion. let’s not get into mud slinging here…..i am a staunch hillary supporter that will vote dem in the fall……believe me, the clinton dynasty will have a role in the obama presidency. he has already said that.
don’t vote mc alzheimers. this is nothing against palin. sure, i am a woman, a hunter, a blue collar worker, but i have the brains enough to vote for who represents me the best. stop name calling….you are the idiot here.
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
timmaa7, i don’t have a speech problem moron. and i dont rap either. i speak the frickin truth. so what do you think about that…
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
carlasue, You are such a card!!!!!!!!!!! You should write children books.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
really dadminnesota, you know, i have had that offer seriously….my best friend has written several.
on a serious note, mc alzheimer’s is not prepared to run the country. i admire his service to the country…..but so did my late father who served in the korean war. he also met general mc arthur. i am the epitome of blue collar white working class catholic women who have a strong voice here….don’t doubt or try to intimidate me…
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
by the way dadminnesota, i have several relatives there, and have caught many fish out of your 10,000 lakes. love your state…..but too damn cold for me to move up and live there…..i am a warm weather girl.
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
carlasue, No intimation here. I just enjoy the colorful and the uneducated, vicious way some try to get a point across. I do agree with your late father about admiring McCain and he would now also.
Posted by: dadminnesota | September 13, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
dadminnesota, please do not call or insinuate that i am uneducated. i hold my BS in engineering, quality, and now i am in charge if you will, of traffic coordination at a fortune 70 company. yes, i am strickly blue collar, and i do thank you for your nice comment about my late father. if an F-whatever tornado came thru this town here in missouri where i live, the first thing i would grab would be my late father’s flag and his medals……god bless….
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
dadminnesota, also, sorry to extend this, i have lots of family in your great state. and yes, i am colorful, and free spirited. but sir, i am not uneducated. and yes, my late dad had admired mc cain. but at the same time, my late dad was a union man, a teamsters leader, a democrat….but you are right he would not slam ma cain for his service to his country. even i admire him for that. mc cain that is. god bless..
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
carlasue – more like a warm weather bit** with that attitude. am i here calling hillary name’s and you tell me to stop the name calling, grow up you freaking self-centered liberal. you say your for hillary now voting for obama, what you need to understand is that there are more female’s(GOD bless them all)who are voting McCain/Palin because of commonsense issue’s which is apparent that that is not your strong point you idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!! dadminnesota had it right, you should write children’s book’s and teach them how to be ignorant like your liberal wino a**.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 13, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
timmaaa7, you are such a bitc^ moron……i don’t have an attitude you bastard. i am not a self centered liberal either. i am for the working man you moron. how dare you send me an email, or response like that. the gloves come off…..where would you like to meet you coward a## hole
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
timmaaa7 btw, just because palin is female does not give her a free ticket to the wh. just like it didnt’ give hillary one. i am a staunch dem, and if you can’t handle it that is your problem…..i will call obama and make sure he throws your dumb ass under the bus.
there is no way every woman in the usa will vote for mc can’t because he has palin as his vp. who cares. i don’t need a man telling me what to do with my body if i got raped and pregnant. f you…..you sound like you are an old fashioned women don’t matter idiot…..bring it…
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
well timmaaa7, no comment….chicken shi*
Posted by: carlasue | September 13, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
The astroturf Obamabots are really freaking out. The polls look bad, key states look bad, and their candidate looks even worse.
Keep posting, guys. I’m sure you’ll convince someone.
If ABC can’t do it, you tools aren’t going to have any luck except preaching to your own choir.
I can’t wait to see McCain whip out the veto stamp. Congress is going to have a cow.
Posted by: Terry | September 14, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Hypocrisy Unleashed: In the Earmark Game, Obama Beats McCain, $740 Million To Nothing
“Sarah Palin is a Governor who reduced her state’s earmarks by 63%, nearly 2/3rds, since taking office. It’s still high in Alaska (for reasons the article describes), but it is only a third of what it used to be.”
http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/09/08/in-the-earmark-game-obama-beats-mccain-740-million-to-nothing/
Posted by: Terry | September 14, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
carlasue, please take a Valium. It’s ok to disagree in Politics, not everyone has the same world view and they are not evil if they don’t see things the same as you.
I’m a pro-life woman and voting for McCain/Palin. Not all women are pro-choice liberals and Sarah is their voice and her actions speak louder then her words. It’s fair game to disagree with her positions, but please stop the hate.
Hillary was way more qualified to be President then Obama and why didn’t he choose her to be his running mate? It seems that Obama has been making a lot of mistakes lately and opened the door for McCain to pull ahead in the polls. This was Obama’s election to lose and McCain is just out campaigning him right now.
Posted by: Lyndylou | September 14, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
carlasue, please take a Valium. It’s ok to disagree in Politics, not everyone has the same world view and they are not evil if they don’t see things the same as you.
I’m a pro-life woman and voting for McCain/Palin. Not all women are pro-choice liberals and Sarah is their voice and her actions speak louder then her words. It’s fair game to disagree with her positions, but please stop the hate.
Hillary was way more qualified to be President then Obama and why didn’t he choose her to be his running mate? It seems that Obama has been making a lot of mistakes lately and opened the door for McCain to pull ahead in the polls. This was Obama’s election to lose and McCain is just out campaigning him right now.
Posted by: Lyndylou | September 14, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
lyndylou, thanks, but no thanks….i don’t need to take a valuim, whatever that narcotic is. yes, i agree obama makes a lot of mistakes, especially of late. and i will agree with you that mc can’t is out campaining obama right now. but i will say this……bill clinton is behind obama, and there is no political dynasty bigger than that of the kennedy’s than the clintons. be that as it may, we shall endure. hillary will be a strong force in this country, even under obama. obama has said he cannot win without the clintons. anything else???
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 1:29 am 1:29 am
I believe Palin’s ‘Gun Toting God’ figure, went by the name ‘Ba’al the Storm God’, in the bible. She put herself into this position. And she wants everyone to own guns? So she made a few mistakes. If she was in the White House, she could have more resources, to cover-up more mistakes. How many times, do you think she fired her gun, into Russia? Maybe her brother-in-law caught her seal bashing, or poaching polar bears? Why would she earmark money for seals, when she could have earmarked money for education.Palin and McCain have such different views of ‘earmarking’, that I wonder which one really wears the ‘pants’, in the campaign?
Posted by: historyforgotten | September 14, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am
historyforgotten, i watched on cnn troopergate..sounds highly unlikely to me that she should be prosecuted for anything at all…..i am trying to be so fair. i am a staunch dem and even tho palin is female, god bless her, and i think troopergate is unfounded, i really don’t think she would be ready to lead the country in the event of the death of mc can’t……not that i wish it….but i would rather see obama win, with hillary as secretary of state or speaker of the house…..i am not really big on biden either….he had nothing in the primary polls of the dem race…
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
hi lyndylou, i am pro choice…..yes maam, i do believe in life, as i love it so much, but god help a woman or a girl that has been raped, or incest, become pregnant. who shall then tell her what to do with her body…..what a mess….
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Lindylou: I’m a pro-life republican Christian too… and actually I’m voting obama. While Palin is clearly pro-life, the top of the ticket is McCain, and it is pretty clear to me that he SAYS he is pro-life, but he is not really. He was pro-abortion his entire life — until after the 2000 election when all of a sudden he realized that he would never get the nomination with this position. So he flipped his position. But I think this was just a shrewd political maneuvre and he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. So I give McCain no credit for being pro life.
Then I look at the rest of the candidate’s position and I ask myself, WWJD? Frankly, I think Obama wins on that score. McCain is pro-war, causing tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. I think Obama will be much wiser with the use of force. Obama seems to me to care about the poor and sick in our country. He has a better idea for getting people healthcare, and for lifting up the middle class. McCain seems more concerned with corporations and the rich in this country.
Yes, the pro-life issue is a big one for me. But I dont’ honestly believe that McCain believes what I believe. Although I believe Palin does (she’s lived it) once they get elected, I’m sure it will only be McCain that counts — thats the way it always is with Veeps. For example, Palin has already bent her stem-cell position to match the approved platform. So since I don’t think McCain really is going to live as a pro-lifer, I have to look at the other positions the candidates have.
As a whole package, Obama looks better to me.
Posted by: Really | September 14, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
lyndylou, please don’t see me as being evil, as so many other bloggers do. i am just a democratic, catholic, white, working class woman, trying to make ends meet. and i do believe in life at conception…..i don’t believe in back alley abortions, i don’t believe in late term abortions….but i will be god damned if some man tells me, my daughter, my grandaughters what the hell to do with their body….no way no how no mc cant….
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am
I’m another pro-lifer, but I HATE the idea that abortion should be illegal even in the cases of rape and incest. I can’t imagine every making it illegal for these cases. That is WAY too extreme for me — and that is Palin’s position.
Palin seems like an extremist to me. She has a made a bunch of other very strange statements that seem very frightening to me also.
Yes, I am pro-life, but I don’t want the republican party to have a lock on my vote just because of this one issue.
When I look at all of the important issues in this election, I think Obama is a better choice.
Posted by: AnotherProLife | September 14, 2008, 2:13 am 2:13 am
really, where have you been…you sound like me, and i have been attacked all nite and have had to defend myself… help
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:14 am 2:14 am
another pro life, right on…..i think obama is the bette choice….i don’t need some man telling me what to do with my body…..neither do my daughters, or my granddaughters..
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am
Palin is a way out religious fanatic.
Saying that we need to pray for her pipeline is just absurd. Frankly my opinion of religion is that God could be rather annoyed if a bunch of people start praying for something so obviously corporate.
It is amazing what bizarre and absurd things you can find her saying on you tube.
My opinion is that Palin was a clever political trick by McCain (I’ll give him that) in order to solidify the right wing of his party. But she is a horrible candidate for vp or for pres.
Posted by: StrangePalin | September 14, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Did you see the damning article about palin in the NYT this morning –
She seems just like Bush : Appointing unqualified friends to high positions, punishing anyone who disagrees with her, then exerting executive powers to prevent anyone from finding out what she is doing!
Her policies are just like Bush too!
She’s Bush with lipstick!
Posted by: Veep | September 14, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
i agree veep….
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 2:57 am 2:57 am
ABC Absolute Biased Commentary
The liberal elitists will do anything and stop at nothing to defame McCain/Palin. Pathetic is the term for the elitist media that has made this thing called Osama Obama a rock star like Jagger, Springsteen,Bon Jovi and the list goes on with the likes of Streisand,Michael Moore,Matt Daman,Pam Anderson( she;s done a heck of a lot for women) and so many more of these liberal elitists who want the rock start created snake oil salesman to be President. In less than three tears in the Senate he has done nothing other than request a billion for bogus projects for his home state and learn the route to the rest room. I am told he spends quite some time in there with all the BS he spews. Any of this money go to Reverend Wright and that other white bashing American hating pastor. Did any go to his friend the former militant bomber against his own country that said recently he is sorry he didn’t bomb more targets or to his convicted felon friend that helped him get his million dollar home. The pathetic ignorant liberals will say that McCain has 8 houses,they were all bought with legitimate money from his wife whose family worked hard. Any of you lefties ever have a beer because that’s the business they are in. You are so jealous at the american dream which has been a nightmare for you because all you do is complain about your country. You lefties also favor the re-distribution of wealth a policy made famous by communist and socialist states which has not worked. And where are the women-Obama dissed you for J Biden I guess you will tell me he used good judgement.Did you know that Obama was not even in the Senate when he misleads the citizens when he claims he voted against it. Do you know that Osama voted against the military appropriation bill and surge. Voting against this bill would have left our troops without supplies and Iraq would not be relatively safer with the surge. Osama still cannot get himself to admit he was wrong. He is an arrogant egomaniac who is dangerous to our way of life. And why is it wrong to be pro life?Don’t we have birth control and do not tell me unwanted pregnancies only occur in the ghetto’s wherever they are. And what of the the rights of the male after all it takes two to tango. Is it wrong to favor life over indiscriminate sex. What is wrong with favoring life you make it seem so wrong. A comprise could bee worked out without giving away the right of a woman to decide. I am not sure of what that is but having unwanted pregnancies because it is easy to abort them is lowering the morals and values of this country.Just think about it. ABC is a pathetic left wing organization that is slowly losing its viewers and I can’t wait for their last show and McCain’s victory. And do not tell me that won’t happen. You know they said that TiTanic wouldn’t sink and the last I checked it is still at the bottom of the ocean.If you liberal lefties elitist snobs have read this far then congratulations you may win a trip to Kenya or Indonesia.
Posted by: stan plagianos | September 14, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
carlasue, you are certainly confusing, you say you’re pro-life and then you make a statement that McCain is not pro-life when actually he is, Obama has paid millions in ads to make this point.
Actually Obama is not only pro-choice but he voted against the born ALIVE infant protection act.
Obama’s words:
“We’re saying they are persons entitled to the kinds of protections provided to a child, a 9-month child delivered to term. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal-protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child.”
Does this quote mean he voted against it because it would not allow someone to kill a child?
This is an extreme position. To abort babies outside the womb.
Posted by: Lyndylou | September 14, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
ABC Absolute Biased Commentary
The posters who claim the are pro lifers are so full of s*&t. It is so obvious that this is being done to make it seem like their is resistance to Palin. It is not wrong to be pro choice but is not horrible to be pro life. Is there nothing more sacred and joyous then a new baby.I have mixed feelings about this issue but unwanted pregnancies go hand in hand in with voluntary sex (not in all cases).By the way the polls indicate overwhelming support for the McCain Palin ticket for those who are PRO LIFE.And, for the elitist these are a mix of blue collar and educated women low income to high income woman.
Posted by: stan plagianos | September 14, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
carlasue, you are certainly confusing, you say you’re pro-life and then you make a statement that McCain is not pro-life when actually he is
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Actually it’s only McCain who is confusing. McCain did several interviews where he elaborated on his PRO CHOICE position.
It wasn’t until sometime after he lost in 2000 that he “changed his mind” on the issue.
If a person in his late sixties, and now mid 70′s, does not know what his beliefs are; if that person keeps changing their mind about things “he could not do in good conscience” just a couple years ago; how can you trust him OR ANYTHING he says? Especially when he’s telling lies repeatedly? (That’s not conjecture, look at fact check, he and Palin are spewing non-truths and distorted information daily)
McCain has not only sold out his integrity to get the nomination, but he has flopped on most of the few GOP issues that he originally opposed. These were the very things that made him seem like a “maverick”.
The “maverick” died when he started campaigning this time. It’s a joke to think he will be standing up to anyone. He’s already shown he will cave in. You don’t think the hundreds of lobbyists on his campaign staff will expect something in return? Palin, of course, will do as told, that’s why the GOP (gas, oil, pipelines) loves her. She can recite her memorized lines and tow the party line.
Posted by: Who's Confused | September 14, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
Liar Liar Liar!!!!!!!!
1.Palin said that she has been to Ireland but she stopped there for refueling.
2. She said she has been to Iraq but never pastThe Kuwait-Iraq border.
I think she is not telling the truth to the Americans. She is not honest or trustworthy.
Posted by: I.A.T smith | September 14, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
Its Sunday,
“Please join with me and pray for construction of a pipeline.”
Sarah Palin, Spring 2008
“Ms Palin, there just might be a few things in your world more important than an oil pipeline that I need to attend to first”
GOD spring 2008
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THE QUOTE FROM A VIDEO OF PALIN. Sorry, but I had to paraphrase God. I don’t have Palin’s connections.
Posted by: Southern Baptist | September 14, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
exactly, i will and always will support a woman’s right to choose, however, i don’t believe that abortion should be a form of birth control. god help us all….if you cannot support, raise, feed, raise or give to a child, please, please give it up for adoption….but let me make my point clear. i am NOT for abortion as a form of birth control
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
Liar Liar Liar!!!!!!!!
1.Palin said that she has been to Ireland but she stopped there for refueling.
2. She said she has been to Iraq but never pastThe Kuwait-Iraq border.
I think she is not telling the truth to the Americans. She is not honest or trustworthy.
Posted by: I.A.T smith | September 14, 2008, 3:48 am 3:48 am
Some of you McCain-Palin supporters had better wake up! Palin is dangerous. Read the MSNBC article. Palin is hateful! She is not VP material.
Wake up People! Some of you are so bent on the fact she is a white woman who you think looks good, well you had better look beyond the surface!!! She is NOT what America needs!
She is vindictive and arrogant! That does not translate into strength, but it does translate into misplaced power and self-centeredness!
America you need to really know what this woman is about! She does not work for the good of the people, but for the good of PALIN!!
Wake up America!
Wake up America!
Posted by: Shay | September 14, 2008, 3:52 am 3:52 am
i am a staunch dem and always will be, and i will make my voice on abortion, the right to live, quite clear….
i love life, i got pregnanat at the age of 19, by someone who could have cared less aabout me///he wanted me to abort, but i said no way in hell….you should see my daughter…she is so beautiful…she is going to school for criminal justice degree…i am so proud…if i would have aborted, or given her up, i wouldn’t have had the highs and lows in life…..that is what life is about. not everything is easy….not everything is for free…we must all sacrifice and learn what life’s lessons are. i am tired of being smeared on these blogs tonight….i challenge anyone to walk in my shoes, the shoes i have worn and walked in and raised my two kids in, without anything, no help , no welfare, just the work off my back…..
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
Election before integrity!
GOP before country!
Lies before facts!
Vote McCain/Palin!
How many more lies and incredibly misleading and distorted stories (can’t call them facts) do you need to realize we are seeing Bush and Cheney once again? Can Americans be THAT gullible to fall for it again?
Does anyone really think these two are going the “change” anything?
Posted by: Same Policies, Different Lipstick | September 14, 2008, 3:56 am 3:56 am
going to say goodnite everyone…..there are a lot of folks who disagree with me, or agree with me…..that’s ok…..we have our right to freedom of speech, and freedom of expression….
god bless you all…god bless our veterans, our late vets,(especially my late father) god bless the working man…god bless the single mothers….(i was and still am one) and god bless those who have loved ones in iraq. i would love to talk but i must go to sleep now. thank you for agreeing to disagree, but that is what makes us so diverse, and so great as a country.
good nite, and i will talk at y’all as soon as i can.
from a lady in a small town in nw missouri……a blue collar worker, catholic, white lady…….
Posted by: carlasue | September 14, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
carlasue, please get your facts straight, McCain has a consistent voting record of Pro-Life. Here is the statement from Naral Pro-choice of America:
Sen. John McCain’s Record on Choice
Sen. John McCain served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1983 to 1986 and in the U.S. Senate from 1987 to present. During his four years in the House, then-Rep. McCain cast 11 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues. Ten of these votes were anti-choice. In the Senate, Sen. McCain has cast 119 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues, 115 of which were anti-choice.
In addition to his solidly anti-choice record, Sen. McCain has never cosponsored or supported legislation that would prevent unintended pregnancy or reduce the need for abortion.
Voting Record: Senator John McCain (R‐AZ)
Sen. McCain received the following scores on NARAL Pro‐Choice America’s Congressional
Record on Choice:
2006: 0 percent
2005: 0 percent
2004: 0 percent
2003: 0 percent
2002: 0 percent
2001: Because only one choice‐related vote was taken in 2001 – to confirm John Ashcroft as
United States Attorney General – no numerical score was given for the year. Sen.
McCain voted anti‐choice.
2000: 0 percent
1999: 0 percent
1998: 10 percent
1997: 5 percent
1996: 0 percent
1995: 0 percent
1994: No numerical scores were given this year; of the three choice‐related votes taken in 1994,
Sen. McCain voted anti‐choice on all three.
1993: 5 percent
1992: 10 percent
1991: 0 percent
1990: 0 percent
1989: No numerical scores were given this year; of the two choice‐related votes taken in 1989,
Sen. McCain voted anti‐choice on both.
1988: No numerical scores were given this year; of the 14 choice‐related votes taken in 1988,
Sen. McCain voted anti‐choice on all 14.
1987: No numerical scores were given this year; of the two choice‐related votes taken in 1987,
Sen. McCain voted anti‐choice on both.
Posted by: Lyndylou | September 14, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am
“The Palin family gets upset at personal issues,” he added. “And at our level, they want to strike back.”
While Ms. Palin took office promising a more open government, her administration has battled to keep information secret. Her inner circle discussed the benefit of using private e-mail addresses. An assistant told her it appeared that such e-mail messages sent to a private address on a “personal device” like a Blackberry “would be confidential and not subject to subpoena.”
Throughout her political career, Palin has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials.
Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.
NEW YORK TIMES
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HMM. Govern with Secrecy, using public power for personal issues, SOUND FAMILIAR????
Posted by: NO WAY NO HOW! | September 14, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Southern Baptist comments:
“Please join with me and pray for construction of a pipeline.”
Sarah Palin, Spring 2008
“Ms Palin, there just might be a few things in your world more important than an oil pipeline that I need to attend to first”
GOD spring 2008
_______________________________________
With Gas at over 4$ a gallon I’m also praying that the “do nothing congress” will vote to drill for more oil and put our nation one step closer to energy independence. THIS IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE!
Wow! now the liberals make fun of people who pray.
Posted by: Ron | September 14, 2008, 4:21 am 4:21 am
Like the NEW YORK TIMES is not biased, lol, what a joke. Don’t beleive anything that is written in that newspaper. They have no credibility.
Posted by: Ron | September 14, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
Lyndylou,
Please get YOUR facts correct and quit trying to beat a dead horse.
McCain stated on NATIONAL TELEVISION that HE SUPPORTED a woman’s right to chose. That is a documented fact from the 2000 campaign. Millions of people saw it. It has been replayed on news channels recently to show how McCain’s “values” have changed since starting his campign.
So, either McCain is a BLATENT LIAR (which certainly seems to be his avenue of choice these days) OR he only recently changed his position to appeal to the right wing fringe of the Republican party.
And if you claim he didn’t vote for choice, then he obviously lied on National TV to try and get votes. So, since he will lie about his policy stances, we can’t trust ANYTHING he is saying now can we?
Maverick? Sure. Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Posted by: elephants can't remember | September 14, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
Palin has a lot to answer for. And I believe she will be revealed as time goes on, but we forget, it is McCain who is the big ‘spinster’. He picked Palin as a ‘shocker’ V.P., who may not be ready to lead this country.But McCain is the real Bush. Palin may even be unaware of the posistion, McCain put her in.She is only human, but McCain is a robot for Imperialism.
Posted by: historyforgotten | September 14, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am
Has this country gone crazy even considering that yenta palin and even worse bushes buddy mccain{voted bush 97%of the time }a real free thinker.Look around you you want 4 more years of this plus having that fairytale moose eater as vice president. Wind her up and she says the same ol lines a real dunce imo.Im still waiting for a plan from mc cain like the energizer bunny waiting,waiting,waiting!!!Wake up america vote OBAMA-Biden for real change
Posted by: Geo hd | September 14, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Where’s Sarah?
During the last legislative session, some lawmakers became so frustrated with her absences that they took to wearing “Where’s Sarah?” pins.
Many politicians say they typically learn of her initiatives — and vetoes — from news releases.
Mayors across the state, from the larger cities to tiny municipalities along the southeastern fiords, are even more frustrated. Often, their letters go unanswered and their pleas ignored, records and interviews show.
Posted by: Our VP Choice | September 14, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
As Ms. Palin’s star ascends, the McCain campaign, as often happens in national races, is controlling the words of those who know her well. Her mother-in-law, Faye Palin, has been asked not to speak to reporters, and aides sit in on interviews with old friends.
At a recent lunch gathering, an official with the Wasilla Chamber of Commerce asked its members to refer all calls from reporters to the governor’s office. Diane Woodruff, a city councilwoman, shook her head.
“I was thinking, I don’t remember giving up my First Amendment rights,” Ms. Woodruff said. “Just because you’re not going gaga over Sarah doesn’t mean you can’t speak your mind.”
Posted by: FREEDOM OF SPEECH | September 14, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
Four months ago, a Wasilla blogger, Sherry Whitstine, who chronicles the governor’s career with an astringent eye, answered her phone to hear an assistant to the governor on the line, she said.
“You should be ashamed!” Ivy Frye, the assistant, told her. “Stop blogging. Stop blogging right now!”
It is part of a pattern, Mr. Fagan said, in which Ms. Palin characterizes any critics as “bad people who are anti-Alaska.”
Posted by: Truth Seeker | September 14, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
WASILLA, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin lives by the maxim that all politics is local, not to mention personal.
So when there was a vacancy at the top of the State Division of Agriculture, she appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to the $95,000-a-year directorship. A former real estate agent, Ms. Havemeister cited her childhood love of cows as one of her qualifications for running the roughly $2 million agency.
Ms. Havemeister was one of at least five schoolmates Ms. Palin hired, often at salaries far exceeding their private sector wages.
SOUNDS LIKE WHEN BUSH HIRED “BROWNIE” TO RUN FIMA
Posted by: The Record Shows... | September 14, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
Thank Goodness for the bloggers who are reading and finding out more about Palin!
SHE IS NOT AMERICA’S CHOICE! She is McCain’s choice because his campaign is soooo boring! Republican’s appear to be enthralled with someone they don’t know and don’t care to know. The fact Palin is a woman is good enough for them. History in the making??? NOT!!!!
God Help America!!!!!!!
Posted by: Shay | September 14, 2008, 5:00 am 5:00 am
John McCain should really be called Mr 10% because he only represents a 10% change from George Bush based on his voting record. A 10% change is NOT a real change but a fine tweaking of existing policy assuming that things are going well. A 10% change is not what we need but wholesale changes.
What is even scarier is Sarah Palin, personal vendetta that she has waged on all Alaska employees who have disagreed with her in any way. The NY Time article on her http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin is super scary.
Please don’t vote for Mr. 10% and Ms. Personal Vendetta. Barak Obama is the vote for change.
Posted by: Scott | September 14, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am
Let’s not forget what Obama has been listening to for the past 20 years.
Malcolm X’s statement on Black Liberation Theory:
“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.”
Posted by: 777 | September 14, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
how can some people believe that Obama’s a muslim?? I would hope after decades of decades of rasism this country would change and change is what we need. I think McCain is just tryin to steal Obama’s mantra by claiming to be of change “yeah sure you want change, when you finally woke up and realized that’s what majarity of the country is for.” McCain doesn’t realize and can’t relate to real Americans, because real everyday americans can’t afford 9 homes must less are lucky if they get to own 1!!! McCain and Palin are rich snobs and in secret probably racist.I hope majority of this country realizes this because if they do then,McCain will see how out of touch this 74yr old is!! and the Democrats will win!most of the people in this country are not rich they are poor and middle class so if they come out and vote for someone who supports the workin class then will win. people who actually have to work, to survive and need thier jobs, and helathcare that they can’t afford to loss, and live from pay check to pay check these are everyday americans.That’s what those rich republicans can’t relate to. most republicans come from money and don’t understand what it’s like to work for your money and have to work for a living.I am a true blue democrat and hope that all the democrats come out and vote for our guy
Obama!!!!
Posted by: jenn | September 14, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am
The links below shows Picture of Lou Dobbs patronizing Racist vendor selling Waffles boxes with racial stereotype of Obama’
Please see the Waffle box in Lou’s hands at the Values Voter Summit in the pictures below.
Sources: Ben Smith of Politico.com and the New York times allso wrote about the event.
See Links below:
http://images.politico.com/global/waffe2.jpg http://images.politico.com/global/obamawaffle2.jpg http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Obama-Waffles.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Sol
Posted by: Sol | September 14, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am
Enough “he said/she said”.. Spare me the labor story, show me the baby! The message is: the states have been wasting money, McCain & Palin want to stop that. End of story.
Posted by: disillusioned2008 | September 14, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
The press needs to give a more fair and balanced coverage of Sarah Palin and her family. Here are pics and videos of Sarah’s unmatchable sacrifices for the betterment of Alaska:
http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm
Posted by: Sam | September 14, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Palin seems like a nice lady, but are we really ready to have John McCain a heartbeat away from the presidency?
Posted by: Jeff | September 14, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Sarah Palin and John Mccain are big fat liars. Its just that simple
Posted by: I dont vote for liars | September 14, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
John and Cindy McCain looked very patriotic visiting ground zero, hand in hand. Barack Hussein Obama looked like a guy who couldn’t get a date to the prom. Where was Michelle Obama? Does she really hate America so much that she celebrates the terrorist attacks of 9/11 at home in a turban?
Barack Hussein Obama and his anti-American wife spent 20 years listening to spews of hatred and “God Damn America” in a so-called church of God. Apparently Michelle believes America caused 9/11. All these radical teachings have been instilled in their brains by Jeremiah Wright.
For over two decades Obama turned to, was counseled by, and formed a strong personal bond with a minister who is a divider and a hatemonger. This simply cannot effectively act as a unifying force for the USA.
The best result out of Obama’s campaign may turn out to be progress in the form of all American cultures accepting that each individual, regardless of race, is to be rightfully held accountable for their actions, affiliations, as well as the doctrines that they adhere to and cultivate in others.
The embarrassing litany of anarchy, filth and hate that Rev. Wright spews should not be excused away as simply “the way our people speak”. Wrong is wrong and is not to be determined on a sliding scale according to skin color.
Obama has told too many lies. He has too many ties to anti-Americans and terrorists.
Have you thought about what might happen if Obama really is a closet Muslim and becomes president?
Vote for John McCain in November. Country first!
Posted by: NINE-ELEVEN! | September 14, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
don’t let leonardo fool you, he’s a jack-ass who wear’s purple lipstick. as he always says , hehaw hehaw hehaw hehaw heaaaaawccak, sorry hairball, hehaw hehaw.
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 15, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
NINE-ELEVEN
Anyone in these times that can still believe Barak Obama “might” be a Muslim deserves to be called an idiot. The rest of your tirade is just as intelligent.
Have YOU thought about what might happen if we have to endure four more years like the last eight?
The world’s financial markets are once more on the skids; good luck to any of us that were depending on our savings during retirement. I suppose I can always live in the house I’ve been trying to sell for over two years…..oh, you probably don’t know that you can’t sell homes in America anymore, do you?
I retired over two years ago on George’s watch with a million dollar net worth (not kidding) and had to move out of the country so I could afford to keep eating. Also not kidding….after my $1,300 a month health insurance bill there was a whopping total of $700 a month left to live on. Of course I can always keep supplementing that with my retirement savings……oooh, I forgot, they’re almost all gone !!!!!! I’m using them to pay for the house I can’t sell………..
Sure, I’m just itching to vote for another four years of Republicans. Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Can't stand it | September 15, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Cant Stand It dont worry. Henry Paulson is sending his plan to Congress next month, then quitting in January. Im sure he will get hired by a big bank to consult on the plan he wrote. Following McCain picking Palin as VP we can look forward to CArly Fiorina as Sec of the Treasury who will do the same wonders for america that she did at HP. WE’ll see her preening on tv plenty but she wont actually do anything but ‘let markets work’ while regular people lose their shirts.
Vote 3rd Party this year, yup time for a change alright.
Posted by: WhatAboutBob? | September 15, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Holy crap, you’re missing the big picture here.
PALIN ADJUSTED A BILL BEFORE CONGRESS WITHOUT ANY AUTHORITY!!!
That’s the only way she could request an earmark.
A Governor is allowed to request spending, but a Governor has no call on the Federal Bills, and no say in whether a request will be funded by a spending bill, by an earmark, or rejected.
However Ms. Palin HERSELF requested earmarks? WOW that is impressive.
Did she sneak into the Capitol building and adjust the text of the bills while nobody was looking? Did she have a disguise and pretend to be someone else?
Or are you dishonestly claiming that she did something she didn’t have the authority, ability, or opportunity to do?
Oh, it’s just the last one? Not quite as exciting then. You just lied and claimed she did that when she did nothing of the sort…
Good job.
Posted by: Gekkobear | September 15, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
OTHER BLOGGER’S – what the he heck is going on here, there was multiple post on this topic with the name leonard p. acting like a moron liberal that kept making ingnorant comment’s about lipstick, and he said he’s voting for obama. his last post was right above my last post about him wearing lipstick and sounding like a jack-ass he-haw. now all his post are gone, where did they go? now you talk about liberal bias bull crap, especially abc. they must think people are idiot’s. they must be taking post of people voting for obama acting like moron’s off the topic site’s. i think it must be so that even with the lipstick deal, the leftest must be trying to make other blogger’s voting McCain/Palin look bad by trying to show and point the finger, saying hey, look at how ignorant, angry, and vulgar the other side is acting. because i don’t understand how my comment could be understood with-out the other blogger’s comment’s not being there anymore, where did they freakin go? abc must be trying to make independents(like me)and republican’s look like moron’s. i know the lefties can make joke’s about what i just said, but i’m serious. why does it seem like left wing nut bloggers comment’s are being removed, but center to right blogger’s showing vulgar comment’s are staying, i see a conspiracy of hypocrisy here! keep an eye on the name’s and post of bloggers you see and talk to voting for obama that are acting like idiot’s to see if they are being removed! this is not right!
Posted by: timmaaa7 | September 15, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm