Stephanopoulos: Sources Say Vote “Unlikely” Before Wednesday

First they take my money to buy stock and get a commission . The stock drops I lose money and now they want my tax dollars to bail them out, There is something wrong with this picture. If wall street gets a bailing so should main street, and the fat cats that get the millions in bonuses better be penalized and fined.

He came out of nowhere and blow the bailout plan wide open. If he is really interested in solving it, lets see if he will “suspend” his campaign until Wednesday. Country first afterall ha?

There wasn’t a deal. Your democratic leaders lied to you.

Pelosi can pass this anytime she wants, the Democrat votes are there, she’s not doing it because she’s scared to take responsibility for the bill. Once again, Pelosi and the Democrats show that they’re not capable of handling the majority position ion congress.

This is what political correctness and government regulation gives you. Forced lending to people who don’t deserve it.
Thanks, Government.

Dave & TRBoston….get a clue. Twerps.
Photo-Op? Where are the photos of McCain glad-handing? Oh wait – there’s photos of his cancer surgery on MSNBC – another smear job.
People haven’t been sold on the bailout plan. It’s complicated, and anyone that thinks otherwise is a damn fool.
I think there is time to think about this and make it better. You don’t just go sign legislation of this magnitude in a rush. Mr. Market did not melt down today (though I expected it to).
How about let’s see how this plays out before assigning blame.

Thank goodness John McCain stopped this train wreck and was able to get GOP input.

Rose Szymanski | Sep 26, 2008 5:46:31 PM
Good idea! And lets start with Obama’s friend’s Raines, Johnson and Gorelick.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are liars and will say anything to save their as*ses. There was no deal with republicans and if she wanted it passed, they’d have passed it already. She just doesn’t want only democrat fingerprints on it when it blows up in OUR faces (which is why Obama didn’t want to be anywhere near Washington DC this week).

Pelosi knows that if the Dems pass it without Republican support they will lose the seats that are being hotly contested right now in this election year. The Dems needto be able to blame the Republicans if this turns out to be a failure. Harry Reid has been lying all along that this was McCain’s fault for not getting passed. The bailout as it stood was a farce. Why should the American people want corrupt groups like Acorn to benefit from this? The Dems are in control, they can pass it if they want to.

Why haven’t the Democrats called for investigations? They have used every excuse on the planet to launch witch trials and yet, not one call to investigate the largest financial disaster in history? Gee, I wonder why that is? Could it be becuase they know it leads right to them?
Most ethical Congress evah!

The only think to Really worry about debating, is, can those surronded by corrupt money, is turned Clinton from Deocrates. And seems to buy fixed records. What if Clinton, and Rick Davis, knew they could buy anybody they wanted. It Fixed McCains Record in the past. And Do not, forget how it bought, Nixons election. I am sure, that special interest groups, who have paid lobbiests, could fix any paperwork. Clinton, had bought de-regulatios, paperwork fixers, and now McCain will have to distance himself, from Rick Davis and Clinton scandels. After all, what if they try to buy Joe Biden. They made Obamas paperwork disappear before. After all, the FBI has been bought before. Those special interest groups, are still on Wall Street, and in other postistion in HIGH Government. McCain should not Debate Obama. McCain is still best friends with Clinton, and has covered up Rick Davis’ Paperwork as best as he could. The ‘Secret Government’, is still in place. We WILL remember McCain has been in Government, a LONG TIME. Imagine that McCain has MORE POWER to fix the POLLS, and FIX PAPERWORK. How Will AMERICANS, Be able to trust a MYTHICAL SECRET ILLUMINATI. The Debates should NOT go on. Fox news was Bought, by special interest groups. Watch CNN and MSNBC. How many in the Senate are still corrupt. The Republican Cocus, has been caught in Lies TOO.
So the question becomes, what happened to paperwork?
Well United America. You already Know, you can not, get into collage without a Birth Certificate, Which the Collage had on Record. Yes, I would ask WHY, it Disappeared.
WHO DE-REGULATED, the OVER-SIGHT, of PAPERWORK RECORDS? The current government, has made people disappear BEFORE. WHY? Corruption? Buy offs? Well Bill Clinton and Rick Davis, STILL has not been Questioned, in FRONT of the WORLD. Notice how FOX NEWS does NOT, show ALL the STORY. WHY?
CNN and MSNBC, has shown MORE about BOTH Canidadates. Both SHOW mistakes made, by Obama, McCain, Palin, and Biden. FOX DOES NOT. Interesting…
Are we headed, for another Flip-Flopping, Senate?
The Out of Touch, Has been Caught Lying, and Would agree, then not agree.
WHY? Why has McCain, Not Givin’ his View on the Bill? The Out of Touch Senate, DOES NOT have the answer either. CNN and MSNBC ask ALL Senate Members. None can give an answer.
Call your Senate Office, and ask Why.
Watch on CNN and MSNBC as ALL the Senators, give the ANSWERS.
Be an INDEPENDATE VOTER. NO DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN VOTES, VOTE UNITED. INDEPENDANT, and FAIR. Who has access to fixing Paperwork. De-Reagulaters. ‘Free Market’ means NO PAPER WORK IS WANTED. Is Wall Street Crooks Gone Yet? NO. Is Paperwork Still Being Changed? YES. What will Corrupt Wall Street do? Hide the Money for Rick Davis? Another Clinton and Davis Fannie Mae? Has Goldman Sachs been De-Regulated? NO. So WHO CONTRIBUTED MONEY? :) WE SEE THEIR PICTURES. Thanks Guys…..You Just showed the world WHY the REPUBLICAN SENATE Can NOT AGREE…. :) Thank You

The only think to Really worry about debating, is, can those surronded by corrupt money, is turned Clinton from Deocrates. And seems to buy fixed records. What if Clinton, and Rick Davis, knew they could buy anybody they wanted. It Fixed McCains Record in the past. And Do not, forget how it bought, Nixons election. I am sure, that special interest groups, who have paid lobbiests, could fix any paperwork. Clinton, had bought de-regulatios, paperwork fixers, and now McCain will have to distance himself, from Rick Davis and Clinton scandels. After all, what if they try to buy Joe Biden. They made Obamas paperwork disappear before. After all, the FBI has been bought before. Those special interest groups, are still on Wall Street, and in other postistion in HIGH Government. McCain should not Debate Obama. McCain is still best friends with Clinton, and has covered up Rick Davis’ Paperwork as best as he could. The ‘Secret Government’, is still in place. We WILL remember McCain has been in Government, a LONG TIME. Imagine that McCain has MORE POWER to fix the POLLS, and FIX PAPERWORK. How Will AMERICANS, Be able to trust a MYTHICAL SECRET ILLUMINATI. The Debates should NOT go on. Fox news was Bought, by special interest groups. Watch CNN and MSNBC. How many in the Senate are still corrupt. The Republican Cocus, has been caught in Lies TOO.
So the question becomes, what happened to paperwork?
Well United America. You already Know, you can not, get into collage without a Birth Certificate, Which the Collage had on Record. Yes, I would ask WHY, it Disappeared.
WHO DE-REGULATED, the OVER-SIGHT, of PAPERWORK RECORDS? The current government, has made people disappear BEFORE. WHY? Corruption? Buy offs? Well Bill Clinton and Rick Davis, STILL has not been Questioned, in FRONT of the WORLD. Notice how FOX NEWS does NOT, show ALL the STORY. WHY?
CNN and MSNBC, has shown MORE about BOTH Canidadates. Both SHOW mistakes made, by Obama, McCain, Palin, and Biden. FOX DOES NOT. Interesting…
Are we headed, for another Flip-Flopping, Senate?
The Out of Touch, Has been Caught Lying, and Would agree, then not agree.
WHY? Why has McCain, Not Givin’ his View on the Bill? The Out of Touch Senate, DOES NOT have the answer either. CNN and MSNBC ask ALL Senate Members. None can give an answer.
Call your Senate Office, and ask Why.
Watch on CNN and MSNBC as ALL the Senators, give the ANSWERS.
Be an INDEPENDATE VOTER. NO DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN VOTES, VOTE UNITED. INDEPENDANT, and FAIR. Who has access to fixing Paperwork. De-Reagulaters. ‘Free Market’ means NO PAPER WORK IS WANTED. Is Wall Street Crooks Gone Yet? NO. Is Paperwork Still Being Changed? YES. What will Corrupt Wall Street do? Hide the Money for Rick Davis? Another Clinton and Davis Fannie Mae? Has Goldman Sachs been De-Regulated? NO. So WHO CONTRIBUTED MONEY? :) WE SEE THEIR PICTURES. Thanks Guys…..You Just showed the world WHY the REPUBLICAN SENATE Can NOT AGREE…. :) BOTH DEMOCRATS and INDEPENDENCE ARE ASKING FOR INVESTIGATIONS. CNN and MSNBC.

Bullying You Can Believe In: AIP Responds to Obama’s Attack on the First Amendment
Washington, DC – September 26, 2008 – Barack Obama is now using local law enforcement officials to carry out his campaign of legal intimidation by assembling a group of high-ranking Missouri police officials and prosecutors – including St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCullough and City of St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce – to identify and target anyone the campaign determines is producing “misleading” political advertisements.
“This is an outrageous and shocking attempt by the Obama campaign to again employ Stalinist, police state tactics against those who dare to disagree with Barack Obama,” said Ed Martin, American Issues Projects president. “I am frankly stunned to see public officials like McCullough and Joyce abusing their official prosecutorial positions to serve as attack dogs for a national political campaign. I am quite certain Missourians elected these individuals to enforce the laws and arrest criminals, not to throw people in jail for daring to practicing free speech.
“The Obama campaign continues to provide a chilling preview of what would happen to political freedom in an Obama administration.”
This new effort is only the most recent attempt by the Obama campaign to crack down on free speech. Obama’s lawyers twice demanded the Department of Justice investigate and prosecute the American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors. The campaign also threatened stations running American Issues Project’s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot, and ran its own ad in response.
Notably, this ad failed to dispute a single fact the American Issues Project has put forth.
http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

REPUBLICANS = FEAR = VOTES

NYT Revealed True Cause of Fannie Mae Crisis — In 1999!
In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.
The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.
Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
“Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990′s by reducing down payment requirements,” said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae’s chairman and chief executive officer. “Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.”
- New York Times, September 30, 1999
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

Why did this happen?
Search You Tube: Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?
PS – Check out Naked Emperor News

McCain Leads, Obama Follows
The neat thing about a presidential race between two Senators is that voters can make direct comparisons between the candidates that otherwise are not possible. This year, the comparisons work in John McCain’s favor.
McCain pushed for the “surge” in Iraq. Obama opposed it, saying it wouldn’t work. When it worked, Obama said he knew it would work, but defended his vote anyway.
Two years ago, McCain warned that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were in serious need of reform and he so-sponsored legislation to reform it. Obama did not support this legislation, which the Democrats blocked. Obama was near the top of the list of recipients of contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, and two executives from these outfits were among his campaign advisors.
McCain also had the right line on the Russian invasion of Georgia (though this was not a legislative issue). As Rudy Giuliani recounted at the Republican Convention, Obama waffled for a while and eventually adopted McCain’s view. McCain led; Obama followed
Most recently, McCain figured out that he needed to get back to Washington to engage, and if possible provide leadership in, the momentous issue of the financial sector bailout. While McCain opted to help make something happen, Obama said he could be reached by phone if anything did happen.
Obama’s position was untenable, so he eventually followed McCain back to Washington.
Hoping to cover for their “follower” of a presidential candidate, Democrats are claiming that McCain has done more harm than good in the legislative debate. Although this is always a possibility with McCain (and, indeed, just about anyone who is willing to lead), the Democrats’ case is absurd.
Their argument is that Congress was on the verge of a deal until McCain entered the picture and caused Republican House members to block it. The problems with this script are several. First, there is no evidence that House Republicans were ever on board with any deal. Second, the support of House Republicans is not needed to pass bailout legislation. The Democrats control the House.
The Democrats counter the second point by saying that a majority of House Dems won’t support a deal unless House Republicans provide “cover.” But this argument raises more problems than it addresses. First, it is a serious condemnation of House Dems (too gutless to do what they think is right, even in the face of a potential economic meltdown). Second it is a serious condemnation of Nancy Pelosi (too ineffective to whip her troops into line even in the face of a potential economic meltdown). Third, it casts serious doubt on the wisdom of the deal that McCain is falsely accused of scuttling. If the deal made sense, House Dems wouldn’t believe they need “cover” from House Republicans.
Fourth, the “cover” argument shows what a non-factor Obama is in all of this. The Dems complain (preposterously) that McCain has riled up House Republicans or failed to bring them around. Meanwhile, no one seems to be asking why Obama hasn’t helped the House leadership obtain sufficient support from House Dems.
There’s a reason why this question isn’t being asked. Obama is lightweight from whom leadership is not, and should not, be expected.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/09/021613.php

A+ for Steve

“Why on earth is there money allocated (earmarked) by Democrats for ACORN in bill???”
There isn’t.
“It would surprise me if they even know ACORN is included in the democrats version of the bailout.”
It would surprise me too, because it isn’t.
“the Democrats (per their leader Obama) are trying earmark money for ACORN in the Bail Out Bill”
They’re not.
Seriously, do you all believe everything you read on blogs, etc., without investigating it yourself?
What’s included is a provision for what happens to the profits resulting from the bailout bill, if they actually are any. That’s not a earmark, that’s an inherent, necessary, part of the bill. The provision is that 20% of them will go to – no, not ACORN – the National Housing Trust Fund. This is a trust set up to provide affordable housing for low-income Americans.
The only link to ACORN is that they are one of many organizations that have applied for and received grants from the fund in the past. In order for them to receive money from this bill, there would first have to be profits, and ACORN would then have to successfully apply for a grant from the trust fund. Note that there are limits on how much any one institution can receive, and numerous conditions attached to grants, including prohibitions on what they can be used for. Google ‘national trust housing fund’ and check their website for more details.

Better bail out me too

I SENT THIS LETTER TO MY REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS:
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the “Bail Out Bill”. In addition we do not want a payout to ACORN — or any organization like ACORN.
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork or allots money to ACORN.
I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED AWAY WITH TONS OF MONEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BAIL OUT.
If the government agrees to pay off mortgages for people who bought homes they could not afford — then the government needs to pay off ALL mortgages for ALL legal American citizens.
I don’t want my tax payments used to pay off somebody else’s home!
I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST A WALL STREET BAILOUT BUT AT LEAST FORKING OVER A THIRD OF THE MONEY — WITH THE REST CONTINGENT ON EFFECTIVENESS — MAKES SENSE.
I AM TOTALLY AGAINST GIVING 10% TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE “ACORN”. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BUY HOMES THEY CAN’T AFFORD. DO NOT BAIL THEM OUT.
NORTH CAROLINA TAXPAYER

Watching John McCain this evening, I felt increasing ALARM that 4 years under him would make the Bush debacles look like a Sunday school picnic.
His responses are “shoot from the hip”….example, his “freeze all spending except on defense” just rolled off his tongue and falls Alarmingly short of the considered response one demands of our President. His fixation on the “surge” shows a lack of understanding of the far more relevant matter of his reckless bad judgment in sending our troops into harms way in the first place. He is obsessed with putting a band aid on a broken leg, and offers no solution to the fundamental issue which is that the Iraqi economy is still hobbling around on crutches, while draining us of $100 billion per year. He is so out of touch that does not even embrace Iraqi’s own leaders loud support of a timetable for disengagement.
Each point he made was childishly simplistic. He treated each issue in isolation of its knock-on impact on other issues. I don’t think he ever heard of Root Cause Analysis! I heard an ALARMING amount about quick fixes to symptoms, and he showed no capability to put his finger on the underlying cause and fix it. Did he address Lack of Regulation…..no. Oh, but fire the head of the SEC….yes. Use Diplomacy to engage problematic states….no. Isolate us from our enemies and our friends alike…..yes.
I always tell my teenagers there is no place for sloppy thinking and slap stick solutions to complex issues. John McCain is no teenager but he clearly needs this advice, for on his current path, as a President he would represent an Alarming Danger to the American People.

Let’s be clear, there is blame to be spread around all sorts of members frm both of the oligop parties for this mess. It was right last night for Obama to ask how we got here. But the answer is hardly às he presents: no regulations, republican free market policies, etc.
Has he never read this article? Or does he choose to ignore it?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Much more could be stemmed all the way back to the LBJ administration.
Why no talk of the Federal Reserve manipulating interest rates? None. Why no supporters of èither Obama and McCain talk about what possible role the Fed has played and what should be done about it? Why? Why the silence?

ClassicLiberal,
No one wants to admit that they are responsible for it. Clinton came close to admitting his role in it yesterday, which was huge.
The problem is that mortgages are foreclosing–mortgages which never should have been written in the first place–to poeple who never had any hope of paying the money back.
Vote no on the bailout.

I agree midwestlady. There are alternative solutions out there. Simply putting a 2 year moratorium on m2m accounting rules in regards to banks would free up more time to find a private solution and let the market liquidate this toxic debt.
More info on Fannie/Freddie:
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/financial/2008/07/28/080728ta_talk_surowiecki

Thank God the all the idiots didn’t sign on to the original pork filled plan (ACORN gets 20% etc) This may take a little longer, but hopefully better for the tax payers. People. You need to chill out. McCain didnt kill anything. He only wishes he had that much influence. Dems can pass whatever they want right now. They just dont have the balls to go it alone, because many are up for re-election and this bailout, FACTUALLY, is not popular with the public. Getting something passed is all about politics, retining a majority, and spreading the blame. Its about presidential AND congressional politics alike. AMercians, you need to take your partisan blinders off. There was no DEAL, it was a setup. That has been exposed. IT was a pressure tactic from the left to get the right to vote for a bill that was BAD for taxpayers and spread the blame. But more importantly, it was a chance for some dems who are running for re election to vote NO as a safety net for their re election bids, while dems know they could pass it without one republican vote. THey need the republican vote to untie the hands of the dems running for re election, as an offset, and to share any blame if the bailout fails. The Right saw this, McCain took the bait Reid offered, and Reid then said never mind, we dont need you. Of course, the “cancel my campaign” thingy, while maybe appearing to be noble at the time, was obviously a stupid thing to do. We have bigger problems people. Our government is not funtioning properly on our behalf. Both presidential candidates tax plans will add “TRILLIONS” to the national debt. The US government has outgrown the people, its not ours anymore. We have been brainwashed into taking a side, sometimes splitting families right down the middle. Last time that happened un such a grand scale we had a civil war. Government is too big, its that simple. They spend to much, and waste too much in the process, sometimes we get less than $0.50 on every dollar they collect. The minute they take it, half of it is gone. We may have to bail out, or LOAN some money to get liquidity to the market, but we should not just give them 700B. Oh, and If you lost money in the market because you trusted somebody else with it, your a damned fool. Dont blame ANYBODY but yourself. Its called gambling, and sometimes, no, most of the time, you will lose.

“Posted by: Aengil | Sep 26, 2008 9:03:45 PM”
You are officially in denial! ACORN has no business getting anything from the taxpayers — not dime one! They have engaged in criminal voter fraud in multiple jurisdictions.

Roflmao!!!!
I agree with you on one thing… Don’t vote for either McCain or Obama.
But all I really saw was your cheerleading for CNN, MSNBC, and CBS.
Roflmao!
Blah, blah, blah..rah rah CNN…blah, blah, blah… Rah, rah MSNBC…blah blah blah… Rah rah CBS.
What a joke!
Good luck!
CL