Violence Breaks Out at Anti-War Protest in St. Paul

Ah the hypocrites are so set against war yet love to get up in the face of the police.
These peace freaks always love to provoke the cops with their illegal activities and hate speech. Why is that? They promote peace, yet their actions are pure violence. Hypocrites!
But that is always the case isn’t it with these hypocrites. They are always claiming they want peace yet get violent with law enforcement.
Ironic that while these Marxists protest, the news finds a Marx to interiew.

Watch more closely – I doubt it is the protestors getting into the face of the police – rather it is the other way around.
this is america – land of the free – free speech
even for idiots like you. (you spew hate, violence, and hypocrisy – go look in the mirror
keep watch – many of the protestors are military – all branches – who oppose the lies, hypocrisy, and stupidity of the GOP administration

To bad they can’t run amok inside the convention hall. 4000 troops dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead, trillion dollars+ gone, standing of the US destroyed in the world, threats of more war with Iran. I commend the protesters for showing up. Just follow the law, but let yourself be heard.

Did these protesters not get the memo? US combat troops are already planned to be withdrawn from Iraq…What is blabbin “bring our troops home now” going to do exactly? Just seems really stupid…

Jazz – Near as I can tell, McCain sang a song about bombing Iran. You know that country with 75 million people next to Iraq.

Wonder why the anti war protestors who were at the Dem Convention were not an angry mob like at the RNC….could it be that this is another plot arranged by Obama and his gang of thugs…seems like that is exactly what is going on..oh, this bunch will stop at nothing!!!

All protestors are idiots. It wouldn’t break my heart if the police start shooting these idiots. Go home.

Neo Conservatism is a liberal movement. Real Republicans are anti war and pro personal freedom. There is nothing about the current Neo Conservative administration that is conservative.
Ron Paul is the ONLY Anti-Iraq War candidate.

U – God bless you. Finally someone with some sense. Ron Paul is awesome.

I live in Saint Paul and attended the rally and march from the Capitol to the Xcel Energy center this afternnon. It was a very peaceful march from my perspective, the cops and the SWAT teams were actually looking quiet bored. There is a difference between protesting the troops and protesting an unjust war. Support the troops and bring them home safely! Stop fighting an endless war and occupation. Iraq had never attacked us before we attacked them. If you’re not outraged, then you’re not paying attention! Get out, get active. And if you don’t vote in the upcoming election, then you have no right to complain with what the next President does.

Look at all of the allies in terrorism outside that convention. Those Osama binLaden supporters and Jihadists should be ashamed of themselves.
I bet most of this bunch cheered and still cheer when they watch the video of the planes crashing into our buildings. Disgustingly pathetic bunch of treasonous trash, but this is America. I would just love to be a cop.

Ben Straub: Why don’t you crawl back under your rock? Iraq is a tremendous success story in the face of extreme criticism from the same type of people who were ready to lynch Abraham Lincoln.

Isn’t this more of a police matter than a pro-war or anti-war matter?

Where’ Griff from FOX News shouting “Do you not believe in freedom?”

Seems that the anti-lib/dem clashes at the DNC were somewhat peaceful but of course, the lib/dems can’t show the same respect for the RNC. I say, go get ‘em cops! Clean out the scum.

Got news for you Benny. I’m not republican, I’m independent. And I think we did the right thing in Iraq by getting rid of the mass murderer Saddam and then sticking it out until the country could run itself. It is clear now our mission is succeeding. It is only buffoons like yourself that give the terrorists any hope at all.

With McCain having an even more radical position on the war than even Buch, saying stay a 100 years in Iraq, protests are even more appropriate.

Why aren’t these cakes working? Where do they get their money? Oh, I forgot, it’s from ANSWER, the communists.
Bush lied? Come on now, libs. Slick Willie and Hitlery were screaming for Saddam’s head in the 90′s. They just didn’t have any gonads to go get him. Well, Bill didn’t.
If it was me over there, I would mop up the trash in the street with one of them. Better yet, draft them to go fight in Afghanstan.

Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death’s construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds.
Oh lord, yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away.
They only started the war.
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeah.
Time will tell on their power minds,
making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
wait till their judgement day comes, yeah.
Now in darkness world stops turning,
ashes where the bodies burning.
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgement, God is calling,
on their knees the war pigs crawling.
Begging mercies for their sins,
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings.
Oh lord, yeah!
–Black Sabbath, War Pigs

Funny how this is a “Top Story”, yet the protests here in Denver were largely unreported by the MSM… but there is no double-standard… No, really…We swear!

Amy – violence? Hardly, no one has died.

republicans again using their power, looks like they are in RUSSIA instead of the USA. Republicians are disgusting

You people are really not very bright. You equate a protest with a full blown war that has cost thousands of lives and have maimed thousands more. Give me a BREAK!!!
It is really time for the Republicans to leave the White House. Their sense of logic and reasoning is severely and dangerously flawed.
I have a brother in Iraq, and if I have to endure a clash with the police in an effort to bring him home safely I consider that a very small price to pay.

The peace protesters are so ready to use violence to make their point. Just a little hypocritical don’t you think. Per usual, they are against violence except when they are making their point. Shades of many years ago via Vietnam. In reality they are more about making their point than a real concern about the loss of life in war. Just like in the Nam period. It was about saving your butt. Not about any real concern for Asian loss of life. The proof of this last point was seen in that their was not one demonstration in America for Cambodia when when they lost 1.5 million people to genocide during a 4 year period. Just silence on the streets. Shame on us!!!

Amy – violence? Hardly, no one has died.

Wow, it’s really funny how all these people who claim to love and support America get so down on people who exercise the very rights that make America great. If you are against these people protesting then YOU are against America. The Republicans, especially the Bush admnistration, and the police who do everything within their power to suppress, subvert, and hide free speech and trample on our rights are the ones against America. You, theits supporters, are just to stupid or too blind to see it. You are being controlled. You are being misdirected by the focus on a “terrorist threat” that’s practically non-existant and is a non-issue when compared to the cost in lives and money of most diseases and other concerns in this country. Go ahead though, give away your rights in the name of saftey, line the pockets of big business in the name of security, but when you, your children, and your grandchildren find every aspect of your lives watched and restricted and controlled for “safety” you will be to blame. When they’re arrested, beaten, or “disappeared” for acts that you took for granted as a child it will be your fault. When America the Great is America the Gulag it will be your fault. These people, like it or not, are working to prevent that from creeping up on you morons walking around with blinders on.

Outstanding. Wish I was there.

I hate jihadists
Israel has been in violation of U.N. resolutions for 40 years, so by your logic we should have gone to war with them a long time ago.
The Iraq war will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing foreign policy blunders in our history.

I see the article claiming that protestors are getting violent but from what I hear the police started the violence by trying to quash the protestors rights to speak. I also don’t see anything about the police raids on homes of people planning peaceful demonstrations. They raided, carted away everything they had, then released them with silly misdemeanor charges that wouldn’t get a legal search warrant in 1000 years. They even raided the non-protestors who they KNEW were going to stand back and document the demonstration on film to prevent the police from using violence and force to trample on the demonstrators rights.

sinclaire – Keep in mind the active duty support Ron Paul and Obama. I hope you realize that this means they disagree with you.

Ben Straub, kudos!

I have no problem with it if the protestors do get violent. The goverment contributes to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and then claims to be heroes. They might have been heroes in Nazi Germany.

sinclaire – I am a traditional conservative republican supporting Ron Paul. You are the new breed of neocon warmonger. Your breed has put our country in hell, and people like me will continue to resist you and make your lives hell with pleasure. Peace brother!

Ben Straub: Well, all of the Dems went along with the war too…so much for your theory….anti war protestors are the wussies that would rather not fight for their country… I did not agree with the war, however, at the least, this country stopped Hussein from genociding a million more innocent people! If Sadam Hussein were in control of this country, you wussies would be kissing his a&& to save YOUR pathetic a&&!

I’ve been to quite a few protest where there was a clash with the police, and in almost very occasion it was started by undercover police in the crowd working in a preplanned manner.
In the few occasions where I have actually seen the real protesters start anything, it was a very few who did not represent the majority of the people gathered.
Case in point was in Miami in 2003. A fire was started in the streets, but when the media followed some of the agitators around the corner, they were getting into police cars and driven away so the proetesters would not catch them. I myself witnessed them exchanging high fives with the other police.

mfmros:
“Well, all of the Dems went along with the war too..
That is a lie. Too many did, but many did not.

Ben Straub, you’re a crackup. A Libertarian, I presume. Your writing is pretty sensible, and it’s really amusing to see you promptly responding to all the right wing nuts who are still spouting their lines from … my god, it’s been five years now! … about how anybody who opposes the war is helping the terrorists, blah, blah. You’d think they’d eventually realize that people have wised up to them, but apparently not. You go, guy!

I was at the demonstration. I marched next to parents with kids in a stroller, veterans and your average citizen. There were about 8000 marchers who were respectful and peaceful. I saw no violence on the part of the marchers. So if 13 were arrested out of 8000 I think the characterization of the crowd as violent is irresponsible. I’ve never protested anything before, but decided to protest after reading about the attempts by the police to intimidate those planning to march. Read the Star Tribune’s (Minneapolis paper’s) articles on the local police raids intended to paint the protesters all as anarchists. This is America, Isn’t it?

There are about 1000 Iraq Vets and Afghanistan vets gathered in Minnesota protesting against the war. Are these the cowards all these people are referring too? Is this the group being called traitors, jihadist and “America haters”? The Veterans For Peace just had their national convention in Minnesota last week, and now there are thousands of US veterans marching in the streets.
I would be very careful who you call traitors. Many of these vets fought for your right to be able to say that and have the free speech you seem to want to steal away from anyone who does not share your narrow viewpoints and hate filled ideology.
That is exactly what the Nazis, Russians, Chinese, and every other fascist or communist country did to anyone who dared to try to stop government abuse and change things.
Just remember one crucial fact. In a 2007 survey by Stars and Stripes 72% of serving and active duty soldiers said they thought the Iraq War was a mistake and they would choose to come home immediately if given a choice.
Most of the military is now anti-war and opposed to fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan. I suppose they are “traitiors” too?

Ben Straub–its unfortunate that the Europeans, in general, put their heads in the sand. They have done the same thing with the Islamist threat–Islamic Terror rages in over 16 nations around the globe–even in China. The Chinese solution ultimately will be to cull their Islamic population if it gets too bad. But the unfolding story of Iraq’s incredible economic developments of late have been major news stories. As I write, we are witnessing a relative minimal amount of violence due to multiple variables–troop presence, the role of the Iraqi army/police, the groups paid to weed out foreign fighters, and role of Syria in blocking cross border terrorism. There is a small revolution that has accompanied this huge lull in terms of small business activity of all sorts. I am hopeful that as that gains traction, this will be a boon to Iraqi stability. It would be ironic if history records the era of the Iraq invasion as an ultimately benevolent turning point in the history of Iraq. We assumed the Iraqis would seize the moment of democratic possibility–but they were unprepared. Moreover, in the entire Arab world, there really is no true democracy. The Koran mandates a theocracy–only one reason why Israel is such a threat to Middle Eastern totalitarian regimes. I believe we will soon see Iraqi oil paying for Iraqi security. This is just, and Congress should demand it as the baby, Iraq, begins to grow up…For all the pain and suffering they have gone through, Iraqis will owe a huge debt to the idealistic intentions of the U.S. Don’t forget, the Iraqi invasion ALSO spurred Libya to abandon terrorism. In fact, Gadaffi openly warned Iran of what it will bring on itself if it doesn’t reform. And no doubt for N. Korea to see the handwriting on the wall.

marat – We can only hope for the best. I tend to think the country Iraq will always be fractured along ethnic or religious lines. The questions to really ask are 1) Is it our job to determine the destiny of other nations when great resentment could result, and 2) Is it wise when we need to borrow money from oversees to make it happen when that country has not done us harm? There are plenty of other questions of course, but I think the second questions rules these types of foreign engagements out for me. Not to mention lots of people die. I am not as optimistic as you on Iraq, but I hope you are right.

Oh I forgot to mention: All the Christians have pretty much been purged from Iraq. There are also 2 million refugees in Jordan and Syria. These are also travesties of the conflict that we are ultimately responsible for. I think Iraq was a huge mistake, and I hope we don’t make it again with Iran.

Ben Straub, I work with soldiers with PTSD. I have seen about 30 that I was involved with commit suicide. I know of over 500 so far who have done it just from the local PTSD clinic, and that is a far cry from the real numbers. I talked with an insurance adjuster with the VA and he says that he knows of at least 5000!!! who have done themselves in because they are just too messed up to see any other way out.
It’s a tragedy we’ll be paying for till at least 2070 if not longer. I’ve actually had a family member kill themself, so I know of it from a professional and a personal level.
I also was in the process of interviewing soldiers in Iraq who have killed themselves rather than face another day of combat.

I hate that “Violence Breaks Out” is the headline for such a positive day of solidarity and hope.
I was at the anti-war protest today and it was very peaceful. I told each of the police thank you I passed them. They are just doing their job — it’s so frustrating when people put their anger towards the wrong people.
Please do not generalize – of the thousands of people there, only a small handful were violent. It would be hypocritical of us as protestors to hold a peace sign while saying or doing violent things.
There were large groups of veterans for peace, people of all ages including many children and families. Thank you, police officers for keeping us safe!
I marched today for the millions of innocent iraqis that have died in the war. I marched today for the 4,135 american soldiers that have died. I marched today for the thousands of people wounded, and with mental health issues that they may deal with for life.
IT IS TIME for this needless violence to end. No more war on Iraq, no war on Iran. More lives are being lost everyday. It is time.

All these people have is violence. They wear black because they feel worthless and invisible. They have nothing and never will have a future. Sad, sick people.

i would say 100,000 people.

HermanG “Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you can criticize America.”
Yes it does mean you can criticize America. That is what the whole first amendment means.
Our founding fathers were not allowed to speak out against the British government and when they did, many times they were HUNG for being traitors.
This is the reason we have a Constitution and a first amendment.
I think you need to go back and actually read it.
So anyone who speaks out against the government or criticizes America is wrong??
hahahahahahahah! Clueless!
If it were up to people like you we’d already be on our way to the detention camps.
And “these people are terrorists”?? Did you not see that many of them just fought in Iraq and Afgahnistan over the last 5 years? And many hundreds more are veterans of other wars.
That is not a terrorist to me. Maybe to you, but you are so deluded it is not funny anymore.
Oh my country, my country, what have you become. I cry for my nation for we are in a time of crisis that many people chose to call freedom.

Freedom of speech DOES mean that you can criticize America – that’s why its called “freedom of speech.”
These protestors however are not protesting America per se, they are protesting what America currently stands for under the GOP administration.
They are speaking up because they have something to say about the Administration (in this Jenna – yes the Republicans – who lied, cheated, and have drug America down to be a disaster and an embarrassment in the eyes of the world.)

I wonder if Obama condones this? It would be interesting to hear his take on their so-called peace loving behavior. Maybe they should go to Russia & protest what they did to Georgia. We all know what would happen to them if they did that!

There have been 4 felony arrests for pete’s sake.
The liberals had their week last week. But as usual, they’re out trying to run over everyone else’s views. Politics as usual.

Grosheas,
It could happen. Obama’s people have been affiliated with these kinds of groups–most notably Weather Underground. The “coincidence” you point out might not be so far-fetched.

Only about 100 out of over 10,000 were engaging in violence.
It’s sad that so few people can cause such stupidity.
One of the other news stations in St. Paul is working on a story about how many of the ones comitting violence were actually undercover police officers.
In some pictures they are wearing exactly the same clothes right down to the same blue jeans and black police issue Hi Tech riot boots.
A reporter I know actually saw the group who broke windows on a police car getting out of a police van and being escorted away in the same van after they did their dirty deeds.

To HermanG, if I missed the irony I apologize. It’s hard to tell when so many people are being absolutely serious when they say stuff like that

Nice reporting–NOT–why didn’t you mention the smashed store windows, punctured car tires, damaged buses, dumpsters lit on fire and shoved into police cars, etc?

Being from the Vietnam Conflict era, I strongly support the protesters. Their are so many parallels that it’s not funny. They truly did have an influence in ending that mess! Remember, our government has and will lie to further their cause. They lied about casualties on both sides to sway opinion. In times of war especially, you cannot trust what they say completely. You protest all you like, I wish I could be there! I had 4 older brothers in that “Conflict”, it was wrong then and it is now!

Included in those arrested this evening is Amy Goodman, the lead reporter for Democracy Now! and two of the producers for the show. Should we be more concerned about a citizen’s right to protest, and a journalist’s right to cover it, and our own right to hear about it?
see democracynow(dot)org

the republican party… the party that unites the nation. what a joke. dissent is the highest form of patriotism and anyone who calls people against the war a traitor is the real traitor. i say protest the convention loudly…. let the GOP know how angry america is at the rape of our nation and how they disgraced our constitution. they have divided this nation and now it is time to heal. we dont need another 4 years dividing the nation.

ONE MORE THING, Republicans are so pro-life, they spend 6.5 Billion a year creating nuclear WMD’s, but that’s not the point here…
The point is that the Palin family has just also proven to the world (again) that the GOP is also anti-condom.
“Remember, Johnny, don’t use condoms, after all, the aids virus is a life form too.”

Ben Straub, an aside because you’re thoughtful and flirting with libertarianism. Libertarianism is a great counterbalance to those who want a nanny state, but I hope you’ll think hard before buying the underlying pseudo-philosophy that constructs an entire world view from a syllogism of “A=A” and “freedom is good, slavery is bad.” “Objectivism” is seductive if you think just hard enough, but it is fatally flawed by unwarranted absolutism, and in particular asserts a false dichotomy between freedom and slavery. You may ultimately disagree with me, but at least be on your intellectual toes if you travel that path.

I was actually a witness there today and I am telling you that the police did not overreact at all.
Firstly, the violent group was quite seperate from the main peace protest. They left the capitol about two hours before the later and were bound for trouble. I overheard a reporter from New York saying that the Police had no time to set up barricades so they had to form lines.
The police didn’t use any spray until the rioteers pushed hard against them, as you can see in the movie.
The crowd reached the Xcel Energy Center where they turned around. I think it was at this point that things turned for the worse.
It wasn’t long before the group was scatering newspaper boxes, benches, flower pots, dumpsters and whatever all around. Breaking windows of cars, buildings and other, At one point they dumped a bag of spurs on the road.
The good news is the quick citizen response there was after the mob had passed. Many peaceful citizens helped move the misplaced objects back to the right place and cleared out the road.
When the mob reached Seventh Place near the landmark center it dispersed. I observed some of the Anarchists in black change into normal dress and walk away.
I overheard a group of three boys talking about how they avoided arrest and needed to get out of there. I made notice of the fact that they had ten digit telephone numbers written on their limbs.
In the end, this was really just a disgusting act of senseless rage and really wasn’t a legal expression of free speech. I was surprised that police didn’t actually use more force than they did. The group was organized to well to their purpose, they were all prepared with various riot weapons, disguises and a plan to escape. They were intending to do this.
The actual protest took place a little later and to my knowledge played by the rules.

Thank you, thank you, thank you protesters. I am so happy that people are finally out in the streets.
What is wrong with the people who are criticizing these protesters? Innocent people are dying — the pawns of Bush (our dedicated and earnest military), and innocent humans in Iraq — women, men, children – civilians who are suffering so much because of the hideous Bush administration.
…and by the way, our American military killed most of the Vietnamese civilians (2-3 million), and destroyed their homes, land – our chemicals continue to cause birth defects, and our uxo (unexploded ordnance – 300,000 tons of it) continue to kill and maim every week. People need to understand what war is before you talk. Bush and Cheney, Rums, Rice, Rove, Powell, etc. should all be in prison.

BRISTOL PALIN was the kinda gal i liked in high school too!!!!!!!!!!
the right wing extreme prayed for it to rain on the DEM CONVENTION.. the weather was beautiful
God gave instead a hurricane for the REPUB CONVENTION
God also gave Palin a illegitimate grand baby!
YOU CANT CONVINCE ME GOD DOES NOT EXIST AND ON TOP OF THAT HE HAS ONE HELL OF A SENSE OF HUMOR
see the father of BRISTOLS baby here
LEVI KRUEGER
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2007/12/08/sports/doc475a740c27e58386258924.txt
PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS ME DEM DAMN BISQUITS AND GRAVY AND YA BEST NOT KNOCK OVER MY SHOTGUN WHILE YA DOIN IT!

Hmm… Violent protests ? Where is the violence ? Can’t the mickey mouse “news” network “report” anything about the Republicans that’s not a smear. I’m getting rather tired of it all.

They’re liberals,
Your a joke.. and I will prove it
If the N Vietnamese were so VERY terrible then why was your guy MCSAME huggin one of the main leaders in that Vietnam victory and praising him like he was his long lost brother when he came to Washington.. once a murderer always a murderer.. OOPS maybe Cindy wanted to open up a Bud Beer stand in Hanoi!
Have a good day but get your facts straight
LONG LIVE THE KEATING 5

RepubliCON losers. Where is the Nazi, White hooded Karl Rove? The coward is now in hiding. Let us ship his rear to the Middle East and let the little pig squeel…

yeap scarydave i bet it is fun to get paid to beat up people in the streets
i think you should apply for that job

I love democrats most of all. Your hate and anger feeds me and makes me stronger. Show your rage my children. I shall soon feast.

Mr President, is that you? I didn’t think your security, or your job, let you read much less post on blogs.

According to the dogs, Satan and Jesus are on the same side.

Only a few people actually had a hand in inciting the riots, and they were people who had no real affiliation with the cause of the group. What are you people, stupid? It’s all part of the spectacle that is this election. You people actually think you have a choice in anything? You’re freakin’ sick, gullible, and incredibly naive.

The childishness of people.. “Obama bin Biden” What are you, 12 years old? Here’s one for you: Obama and Biden have “been laden” with a clever but incredibly immature name. Neither candidate is going to give people what they want. My God, people…use your own heads instead of those of the media, government, and fellow “party” members. This election is a joke.

Jesus and Satan are just pretending to dislike each other. Like Bush and Putin, every con man needs a bogeyman.

There are worse things than anarchy.

Tommorrow these punks will be back in school paid for by their Republican parents.

If I was in charge of the police that day I would have had them dumped gallons of tear gas on these liberal lunatics.

Rob: [yawn] I’m not a republican, democrat, independent, or any other label. I’m simply an American who’s sick of the disgrace that our country has become, and the spectacles that our elections have become. I am in no way an anarchist either, kiddo. I point out the obvious to a country of selfish and blind people who can’t see past their own desires and FEAR to understand the truth. The only thing I’ve experienced from looking at these blogs is that most of the people are immature and make the most absurd assumptions about everything and everyone they disagree with that I’ve ever seen. If the people of this country actually think the way it appears they do, then maybe the people really do deserve all the problems they have. There’s always someone else to blame and no one ever looks at themselves (except for their own desires and points of view). When you look at the grand scheme of things, the election is a joke, a spectacle, and amounts to nothing more than reality television-style entertainment. It solves no problems and accomplishes no goals except for those of the people in the spotlight.

Hamburter – I suppose rebellion is part of childhood. Some of us grow out of it and become productive members of society, others become democrats.

some one posted:”These pathetic losers will just campaign against bush for the next decade or more., showing that the entire party is as shallow as its leader”. The truth is, Bush has been campaining for them for the past 8 years.No one has done more service for the Democratic party, or any other oposition party, then George Bush JR.

NOBOMMUNISM
NOHUSSIEN
NOBAMA
NOWAY
HITLER MADE GREAT SPEECHES TOO!
BABY KILLERS ARE THE REASON THIS COUNTRY IS IN A MESS
GAY COUPLES CAN’T PROCREATE, THEIR PHYSICAL ANATOMY IS NOT MADE FOR SAME SEX “UNION” THEY THINK THEY ARE A REAL FAMILY. SATAN IS DANCING WITH JOY FOR THEIR DISORDER.
DESIGNER BABIES, ISN’T THAT EUGENICS?
CONTRACEPTION, WASN’T MARGARET SANGER THE FOUNDRESS OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD OUT TO GET RID OF THE “NEGRO” AND ANYONE WHO WASN’T WHITE IN HER “NEGRO PROJECT” OH, YEAH BLACK GENOCIDE – PART OF HER PP OBJECTIVES – HITLER WAS HER MENTOR
NOBOMMUNISM
NOBAMA
NOWAY

Two antennas met on a roof, fell in love and got married. The ceremony wasn’t much, but the reception was excellent.

Scarybob – Just for clarificaton. Rider of White horse = Jesus. Handsome and eloquent “Savior” = Antichrist. Yes, two distinctly different folks coming to get us.

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other “Does this taste funny to you?”

Reality – Sovereign.

scarydave – Vote 3rd party.

Scarybob – I will certainly read that again soon after I finish smashing more dogs tomorrow. Oh, thats right they’ll be back in school. – Just kidding. I love those silly kids who think freedom is free anyway.

Joker – The cannibal joke was very funny.

A single Chinese man owns a Chinese restaurant, and one day a beautiful Chinese woman walks in. He immediately walks over and asks her out on a date. She agrees. They go out for a while, and soon, the man proposes to her. She says “Yes, but before we do, there’s something you must know. I have never had the sex, but I’ve read about it.” He says that it’s not a problem, and they are married.
On their honeymoon, the man tells his wife that since she’s a virgin, she can choose what they do first. She says “Oh, most honorable husband. I am honored to be your wife, even though I have never had the sex, but I’ve read about it. So, I have chosen to have #69.
The husband looks confused, and after thinking about it, he says “You want.. beef and broccoli?”

Excerpts from a Dog’s Diary”
8:00 am – Dog food! My favorite thing!
9:30 am – A car ride! My favorite thing!
9:40 am – A walk in the park! My favorite thing!
10:30am – Got rubbed and petted! My favorite thing!
12:00pm – Lunch! My favorite thing!
1:00 pm – Played in the yard! My favorite thing!
3:00 pm – Wagged my tail! My favorite thing!
5:00 pm – Milk bones! My favorite thing!
7:00 pm – Got to play ball! My favorite thing!
8:00 pm – Wow! Watched TV with the people! My favorite thing!
11:00 pm – Sleeping on the bed! My favorite thing!
“Excerpts from a Cat’s Diary”
Day 983 of my captivity.
My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects.
They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while the other inmates and I are fed
hash or some sort of dry nuggets. Although I make my contempt for the
rations perfectly clear, I nevertheless must eat something in order to
keep up my strength. The only thing that keeps me going is my dream of
escape. In an attempt to disgust them, I once again vomit on the carpet.
Today I decapitated a mouse and dropped its headless body at their feet.
I had hoped this would strike fear into their hearts, since it clearly
demonstrates what I am capable of. However, they merely made
condescending comments about what a “good little hunter” I am. Bastards!
There was some sort of assembly of their accomplices tonight. I was
placed in solitary confinement for the duration of the event. However, I
could hear the noises and smell the food. I overheard that my
confinement was due to the power of “allergies.” I must learn what this
means, and how to use it to my advantage.
Today I was almost successful in an attempt to assassinate one of my
tormentors by weaving around his feet as he was walking. I must try this
again tomorrow — but at the top of the stairs. I am convinced that the
other prisoners here are flunkies and snitches. The dog receives
special privileges. He is regularly released – and seems to be more than
willing to return. He is obviously retarded. The bird has got to be an
informant. I observe him communicate with the guards regularly. I am
certain that he reports my every move. My captors have arranged
protective custody for him in an elevated cell, so he is safe. For
now…

The troops aren’t fighting for freedom, they’re following orders of the CiC/CEO of America who lied us into an illegal war. But those troops do need prayer and thanksgiving anyway, because what they go through is pure psychotic mayhem…regardless of what the CEO/CiC (same thing) put them in harms way for.

Reality – Tell that to the millions of Iraqi’s now free due to efforts of the American liberation forces. The world is a safer place now that Sadam Hussein is not part of the conversation. As much as I dislike the French, when they had balls, they helped us out when we needed them or we would all be talking with a cool British accent. Oh yeah, goodnight dogs. See you tomorrow.

BlueDressBilly – At least tell me why I am a pain in the ass and a socialist. You are another republican apologist/neocon stooge, and your party of thugs is going down hard. Keep the insults flowing!

These Democrat/Socialist protesters here in St.Paul are sure poor representatives of their lame Party. Their psychotic behavior is very effective at exposing the violent Democrat message. America is watching, Demoroids. Your thugs will help lose this election for you. As much as we’d like to see our Law Enforcement grind the intolerant Democrat criminals heads into the pavement, maybe it’s worth letting the kook ‘protesters’ demonstrate what typical Democrat behavior looks like instead. Bye-bye Obummer.

demsaredumb – Lots of vets that have served, and quite a few republicans in those protest too. Surely the vets should be there.

A ventriloquist was making fun of rednecks with his dummy at a bar. Then an angry redneck stood up, rolled up his sleeves ,and yelled, “I resent that!”
The ventriloquist started apologizing to the redreck.
The redneck looked at him and said, “You stay outta this, I’m talking to the guy on your lap!

Is “Chocolate City” trying to get the word “Hypocrites” into his/her vocabulary? Well, use it vocally about another 20 times and you might succeed–personally I think two-faced covers it quite well..You’ll never be a Peace Freak CC with your anti-social behavior and solitaire games!!

I say pepper spray these violent criminals.

Four Catholic ladies are having coffee together, discussing how
important their children are.
The first one tells her friends, “My son is a priest.
When he walks into a room, everyone calls him ‘Father’.”
The second Catholic woman chirps, “Well, my son is a bishop. Whenever
he walks into a room, people say, ‘Your Grace’.”
The third Catholic woman says smugly, “Well, not to put you down, but
my son is a cardinal. Whenever he walks into a room, people say, ‘Your
Eminence’.”
The fourth Catholic woman sips her coffee in silence.
The first three women give her this subtle “Well…?”
She replies, “My son is a gorgeous, 6’2″, hard bodied, well endowed,
male stripper. Whenever he walks into a room women say, My God…”.

Carl: Your comment is exactly why you’re not fit to be in a position of authority.

What I saw in the video was police officers defending a line by using chemical weapons on unarmed civilians. From this video, the only thing that can be ascertained is that the police are too proactive in their authorized use of chemical weaponry and did so without warrant. But, hey… what’s new about that? The extreme right always applaud this kind of behavior.

throwing a brick trough the front window of a bus almost killing the driver there were reports of anarchists tossing things off briges which could cause murder.
a school bus with boy scouts on it attacked.
defeat they name is democrat
violence they name is anarcho-terrorist
black bloc anarchist should be in jail I suggest a part of GETMO

What ABC news won’t publish about what really went on during these protests.
“Five people were accused of setting fire to a trash bin and pushing it into a police car, St. Paul police spokesman Tom Walsh said.”
“Protesters attacked members of the Connecticut delegation when they got off their buses near Xcel Center, delegates told FOX News.com and a local TV station.”
“A group of protesters came toward the delegation and tried to rip the credentials off their necks and sprayed them with a toxic substance that burned their eyes and stained their clothes, delegate Rob Simmons told KMSP-TV.”
“One 80-year-old member of the delegation had to be treated for injuries, and several other delegates had to rinse their eyes and clothing, the station reported.”
“Delegate Arne Schoeller Jr. said that on the way back to Xcel Center, his bus driver was talking to St. Paul Police when a protester boarded the bus uninvited.”
“There were protesters laying on the ground, giving us the finger,” Schoeller, of Baltimore, said. “One got on the bus and ‘thanked’ us profanely, saying ‘Thank you for (expletive) up this country’ or something along those lines.”
“At one point, people pushed a trash bin filled with trash and threw garbage in the streets and at cars. They also took down orange detour signs. One of them used a screwdriver to puncture the back tire of a limousine waiting at an intersection and threw a wooden board at the vehicle, denting its side. Another hurled a glass bottle at a charter bus that had stopped at an intersection. The bottle smashed into pieces but did not appear to damage the bus.”
“Protesters were seen lying on an interstate exit ramp to block traffic in the downtown area and linking arms to block other roads.”
“On the weekend, authorities seized weapons and devices from a self-described anarchist group called the RNC Welcoming Committee, which was not among the organizers of the march. The devices were designed to disable buses, the sheriff’s office said.”
Unlike back in the 60’s, police cannot arrest peaceful protesters.
For more information please check out other national news media web sites on the Internet.

Kind of silly to protest the RNC now when they should have been protesting every year since the wars started, if they are truly anti-war. By not demonstrating peacefully, they are just as bad as the so called war-mongers. Demonstrating at the RNC is not going to change a thing. Life goes on for each and everyone of us.

More evidence of the DNC’s divisiveness campaign with protests escalating to violence against the Republicans. There is a big difference between the DNC candidates’s words and actions, preaching unity, and his supporters acting out with violence. The DNC nominee previously disrupted Hillary’s events with loud angry protestors sent to her campaign event sites. It was fortunate in most cases the local police could curtail the anger and violence of the protestors. The DNC is unable to bring the leadership we need, and even today with a Democrat majority in the legislature, the Dems prove they have a serious lack of focus. We need Republicans to get the job done and to provide leadership.

Can anyone appreciate how asinine it is to protest war by setting fires, breaking windows, damaging property and threatening and assaulting persons who have nothing at all to do with the war? Did the police officer assaulted while on his bicycle send soldiers to the war? Did the stores who’s windows were broken launch any missiles, drop any bombs? Did the people coming in on busses that were attacked with sacks of concrete dropped from overpasses destroy any buildings in Iraq? Many of those bus passengers weren’t even state or local government officials.
Protesting the use of force by the military by using force (violence) makes as much sense as protesting drunken driving by getting drunk and going for a drive.
People do have a right to protest, they have a right to exercise their civil liberties by demonstrating publicly. But civil rights end when they reach the point of destroying private property and infringing on the rights of other people to walk or drive down the street without fear of being attacked.
Most of these violent protests are organized, recruited and trained by the same leftovers from the 1960′s that used the same methods to protest the war in Vietnam. They’re older now, and often working in academia where they can instill their failed ideology into the kids we send off to college for an education, all unknowing the kind of education they’re getting. (Not all college teachers are at fault here, but when the likes of Ward Churchill, William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, and others are teaching socialism, marxism and revolutionism, violent protests like this is going to be the result).
EVERY ONE OF THEM who caused property damage, assaulted police or others, or attempted to do either, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent, and the offenses added to their permanent police records to mark the depths of stupidity they are capable of.
But, sadly, the ACLU will take time off from defending NAMBLA and child rapists in order to defend these morons.

Dissent is the highest form of patriotism— Thomas Jefferson

A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named “Ahmal.” The other goes to a family in Spain; they name him “Juan.” Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, “They’re twins! If you’ve seen Juan, you’ve seen Ahmal.”

Can’t people understand that protesting is as American as apple pie? Why must an anti-war protest immediately be labeled violent and Marxist? I for one am neither violent or Marxist an I can easily understand why people would protest against this administration’s war in Iraq. As an ex serviceman – 10 years in the military, I think this administration put our young men and women in harm’s way needlessly. Impeachment anyone?

Wow seriously, not only this people brought shame to minnesota behaving that way, But pure hypocrites, I love America i love this country i do. I agree with freedom of speech. I have nothing against with those people expressing how they feel but what i dont agree is the violence they bring and hate that they so much accuse the republicans having. practice what you preach. Im a republican and i have my own beliefs why i think McCain should win. And i know some of you are Democrats and i wont argue with you.I think thats the problem we argue and dont respect each others opinion is like we cant be civilized anymore instead we are behaving more like wild animals. I would say this republicans keep their opinions to themselves unlike the democrats, where i work all of them bash me for being a republican calling me stupid and telling me i should go for HOPE and CHANGE, sorry as i cant change your vote nor can you, but unlike you i dont tell you how stupid and blind you are for voting democrat.Like i said let this be at peace each of us voting whom we want and that is that.

Prominent Clinton Supporter Coale Mines Support for McCain:

I was at the protest, and I have photographs of many of the police faces. They should feel ashamed

gtessex – Nope all facts bud. Instead of calling me a moonbat why don’t you tell me where I am wrong.

Wonder if there is truth to Obama leaking Palin’s pregnant story to media, then publicly denounces it for political points? If so, is it because to distract the public of two of his personal issues that has been circulating all over the internet for 2 years… And they are:
1. His sex and drug rendevous with Larry Sinclar implicating closeted homosexuality – google “Obama’s closeted homosexuality” and,
2. Has Obama’s birth certificate been vetted? Is it legitimate? His citizenship is questioned because there are family members who witnessed his birth in Kenya? His mother married and divorced Indonesian man who adopted Obama? The actual birth certificate document confirms to be a forged copy. Apparently candidates have to be citizens to be eligible to run for President…..
Check out http://www.obamacrimes.com/

What does the elitist GOP expect? It has been Republicans who wrecked the economy and gave use $4 a gallon.

gtessex – Actually you are the one that is clueless along with your party, and the vast majority of Americans know it. You guys are going down!
The treasury has been raped – apporaching a trillion dollars, and that is just what they tell us. Lies, of course it was lies. No WMD and to spread democracy? How stupid do you republicans think we are? We all know Saddam was an egocentric ass, but most of the fearmongering by both parties is a bunch of hogwash. Now we have given Iran our supposed enemy greater influence, and of course there all all the other problems that I mentioned previously. You guys are going down, and I am going to enjoy your fate.

Awesome. Wish I was there.

DaveM – You would think they would listen, but the neocons can admit no wrong.

DaveM = another clueless loon. High gas prices are the result of clueless liberals not allowing the US to develop any energy sources…thus we get to import most of it from somewhere’s else.
Same thing with energy used to produce electricity. Get rid of Nuclear and all fossil fuels and replace it with wishful thinking.
You and Straub… Siamese twins attached at the head?

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gtessex – I believe the 911 commission report. I am a Paul supporter who believes in less government regulations. I believe in a combo of fossil fuels and renewables. I believe in humility in foreign policy. Eventually we will not be the big kid on the block and it would suck if those that are going to be more powerful have a score to settle. You are the one that is as you say f*cking stupid. Everything you said about me is false, but what can i expect from you Rove minions. You guys are going to hell for what you have done.

Wanna Bet – I don’t want Obama. Obama is a big government entitlement guy. I do however choose him over McCain because of foreign policy. I am working right now at a real job. Actually I am simulating stuff that takes awhile so I have some extra time to respond to your fearmongering stupidity. You neocons make me sick. You guys have tarnished our reputation and ruined our finances, and killed scores to boot. You guys suck.

Speaking of real jobs, why are you guys spreading your stupidity on here?

Well Straub, I’ll give you credit for not believing in this 9/11 conspiracy nonsense, regulations, developing all energy resources and not being a Obama supporter. From reading your posts…I got the impression you were just another far-left loon. You might wanna change your writing style.
PS: on Foreign policy…Obama is totally clueless and our enemies know it.

gtessex – Why do we have enemies? To me that is the real question. Could it be current belligerent foreign policy adopted by bith parties in particular the republicans. I think so. When you step on people enough they will resist.

mfmros – Funny. Paul supporters also had a march with thousands. He also had a book signing with thousands in Minneapolis. Why did the press decide to focus on a few anarchist and not the real conservatives out there. That is the real question. Ron Paul had over 10,000 marchers in DC a month ago, but it wasn’t anywhere in the press.

Ron Paul quotes..
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.” – Ron Paul, 1992
“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” – Ron Paul, 1992
“We don’t think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That’s true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.” – Ron Paul, 1992
“What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn’t that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?” – Ron Paul, 1992

“gtessex – Why do we have enemies? To me that is the real question.”
Why during the existance of mankind..has there been conflicts? Certainly didn’t start with Bush. We attempted to ignore Hitler..but common sense finally prevailed.
We have a choice. We can either be strong and defend ourselves or become weak and be conquered. I don’t want to be around when the USA ends up surrendering to some other country or terrorist group.

Quote – many of these quotes were attributed to Lew Rockwell by Foxnews a while back. Lew Rockwell was the editor and a contributor to these newsletters. Ron Paul’s name was in the ledger so he does bear some responsibility, and should have known what was being published. I do not defend him on these newsletters, but so much of what he says is truth and should be listened to over the two front runners.

Ben Straub: You are correct, it is unlikely this country will ever be taken over by military force. It will not be necessary if the Modern Liberal movemont gains much more of a foothold. A tyranical socialist need only to express a desire to run this country and the Libs will do all they can to enable that. Khrushchev recognised and stated this about us back in the early 50s and late 60s. I’ve no doubt that Putin feels similarly. By the way, we (the U.S.) don’t try to get people to THINK our way, we DO, however try to modify some of the more abhorrent BEHAVIOURS out there. You know, genocide, mass political imprisonment, etc. Of course, if YOU are in favor of such behaviour, state your case, I’ll listen. It similar to what’s happening in this story. If one is a radical, activist protester and one’s actions stay within the law, I support their rights. When they cross the line ( which they will ultimately do, because no one will pay attention to their drivel otherwise) then they need their skulls cracked.

Ben Straub: I suspect you’re right about our viewpoints. Yours are usually pretty well stated even if I’m against it. I KNOW we can both define socialism but “unnecessary” militarism is a tad tougher to get a handle on. Still and all, at some point I think we’d both agree “enough is enough”. Just where to draw the line that’s sticky. I’ll be watching for your posts, I’m always ready to learn although my capacity is limited.

Well I guess LIPLOCK LAURA wont be making her “goodbye” speech tonight…GOOD.

Hooray for all the protesters in St. Paul who are standing up against the death machine of AmeriKKKa in the Mideast and all over the world! Hooray for the millions of people in this country who are fighting to have the majority heard, recognized, and followed! Hooray for the voice of reason in a time of madness! You’re taking back the streets, taking back the cities, laughing in the face of fools who do and say pretty much anything to provoke a sense of fear, shame, or guilt. We are innocent, we are right, and we stand against state sponsored war, war profiteering greed, the exploitation of our youth whose lives have been destroyed by the elite minority of rich white men, and the fools who slavishly ape their masters, who despise them. Leave the hate-mongers to their teeth gnashing. Malcolm X judged them accurately, when he said: those slaves loved their masters more than the masters loved themselves. They made their bed, let them lie in it.
A shout out to Ben Straub, News Editor, JennaMN, Karen, Bill in San Diego, and all the other smart people who made this discussion so engaging and edifying!

The thing i dont understand is why everyone is spewing so much hate about these protestors. They were trying to walk down a damn street and got attacked. Why does that make people want to “kill” them? Ben Straub, your awsome.
Wanna Bet, burn in hell you racist bastar*d.

Mista Zach and zach-like who’re calling the protesters idiot/stupid etc., how old are you guys? Have you taken any history, geography or economy lessons AT ALL??? Someone above mentioned American soldiers getting killed. Let’s explore that phrase…not only a couple of soldiers…thousand is s small number today. Think about it, every single day as you zach-like are at your homes watching TV, enjoying greasy-burgers, barbecuing behind someone’s backyard and enjoying a chilled beer at some bars or clubs, these “American soldiers” are suffering – deprived of descent food, health, bed, clothes, missing their loved ones, and last but not the least RISKING THEIR LIVES…FOR WHAT??? OIL??? THAT WE’RE PAYING $4.00 FOR? Why do you think terrorists attacked America? Go out and smell the roses, majority of the people in this world don’t like American’s. Do you want that legacy to continue? If $$$s are spent in a similar fashion next 4 years, $ will have no value anymore, there’ll be more jobs lost, it’ll be VERY hard for American economy to recover, we’ll be in rising country like China’s mercy, we’ll have no money or man power to back our country anymore as we DEPLOYED ALL TO IRAQ and other countries, which will leave WHO US!!! vulnerable to attacks from ANYONE….THINK before you favor war again.

Anyone interested in what’s really going on: I recommend the book by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ron Susskind: THE WAY OF THE WORLD – A Story Of Truth And Hope In An Age Of Extremism, e.g. — “…there was a secret mission a few months before the war — a top-drawer intelligence-gathering mission that the United States was involved in — that found out everything we later learned. That there were no weapons. And we knew in plenty of time…It is a violation of American principle and law that lies, quiet and sure, beneath the country’s misfortunes. And, like a demon, it must be exorcised before doawn.”
Save the Humans.

George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush lied, and thousands of people died. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA

America needs to find out if the Military Draft is going to be reinstated.
It is not right or fair that only Mainstreet’s children are used as human fodder for the Iraq war time and time again.
Where are the children of Wall Street and Congress?