White House Reacts to Bob Woodward Book; Revelatory ABC News Interview From April
ABC News’ Luis Martinez reports: The White House has issued a statement tonight from National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley saying Bob Woodward’s new book paints an "incomplete" portrayal of the Bush administration’s Iraq policy in 2006 when it appeared that Iraq was spiraling out of control.
Hadley takes issue with Woodward’s claim in "The War Within: A Secret White House History, 2006-2008" that President Bush continued to maintain publicly that U.S. forces were "winning” in Iraq while privately he had come to believe that the long-term strategy of training Iraq security forces and handing over responsibility to the new Iraqi government was failing.
The book is scheduled to be released Monday, but the book’s contents have been written about in The Washington Post.
In his statement Hadley says, "The Washington Post article suggests that the President in his public statements during 2006 did not present a realistic picture of the situation in Iraq. This is not the case.”
However, in an interview in April with ABC News’ White House correspondent Martha Raddatz, President Bush himself acknowledged that he had not been totally forthcoming about his Iraq strategy in 2006 at a time when Iraq was driven by ethnic conflict.
President Bush told Raddatz that he had continued to deliver upbeat public assessments of how the war was going even though by then he believed the Iraq strategy was failing.
RADDATZ: Did you think it would fail?
BUSH: I thought it was failing, yes, I did, and that’s why — and I listened to a lot of opinions. And as you remember, there were like all kinds of opinions. ….
RADDATZ: … All during that period — April, May, June, July — when things were really going downhill, people were talking about there being civil war …
BUSH: Yes.
RADDATZ: … you were saying, "We’re winning. We have a plan for victory. We are winning," up through October.
BUSH: Well, there was — I also recognized — I think if you’d go through the — kind of fully analyze my statements, I was also saying, "The fighting is very tough, it’s — you know, the extremism is unacceptable. The murder is unacceptable." And you know, it’s very important to be realistic …
RADDATZ: … But the overall thing, when you say, "We’re winning," you know what the American people hear. You know how that will play.
BUSH: Well, yes. I think we — and I wanted — that’s as much trying to bolster the spirits of the people in the field as well as — look, you can’t have the commander in chief say to a bunch of kids who are sacrificing either, "It’s not worth it," or, "You’re losing." I mean, what does that do for morale? …
RADDATZ: It’s one thing for the troops and boosting morale. I totally understand that. But do you think you lost credibility with the American people? Do you think that’s one …
BUSH: Yes.
RADDATZ: … of the reasons you couldn’t sell this?
BUSH: I think the quickest way to lose credibility with the American people is for them to think the president makes decisions based upon the latest public opinion poll or what’s good for a political party.
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The President also loses credibility when the public perceives his decisions are based upon his biases rather than the intelligence that is available to him.
Posted by: msgijoe | September 5, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Posted by: newme234 | September 5, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Incomplete? You mean there is more?
Posted by: Ben Straub | September 5, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I watched both conventions and witnessed history.
Barack Hussein Obama is smart and has a great personality but he is not believable and cannot be trusted. Obama “HOPES” we won’t notice how many times he has “CHANGED” his mind. He has based his entire campaign on lies. He has too many ties to terrorists and anti-Americans (Ayers, Rezko, Said, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Wright ['God Damn America'], etc.). If you are the leader of a country — or a business for that matter, there are no “present” votes — That’s how Obama voted most of the time. He worked 142 days in the Senate and spent the rest of the time running for president. Obama will bankrupt America — especially with his capital gains taxes. His death tax will hurt our children and grandchildren. No one is experienced on ALL issues; however, he is not experienced enough ON ANY ISSUE to run this country. Obama is unqualified and unfit to become Commander-In-Chief. In fact, his association with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, among others, would prevent him from getting the security clearance needed to enter the military as a private. HE HAS NEVER SERVED OUR COUNTRY!
Joe Biden does have political experience. If Obama wins, he will be the puppet and Biden the puppeteer (vie Bush/Cheney). The only difference is that Biden doesn’t know when to shut his mouth or turn on his filter! In the debates, Biden himself said Obama was not prepared to be President and that it wasn’t a position to “test drive”. Biden was right — we do not need a president in training! Obama knew how his own colleagues felt about his inexperience.
The Honorable John McCain has worked for our country for all of his adult life. He brings years of experience. He has proven he loves our country enough to die for us! John McCain is a Hero and true American Patriot. He has shown his integrity. He is genuine — A man that I trust. As for his choice of Sarah Palin, she has a lot of good points herself. As one Proud American, he gets my vote!
Sarah Palin is smart, accomplished, believable and likable. She brings a breath of fresh air and offers change we can believe in. She has more executive and leadership experience than any candidate. She is governor of our largest state. She crossed party lines to do what was right for Alaska and will do the same for the United States of America! PALIN IS A STRONG COMBINATION OF GRACE AND STRENGTH. I have no qualms about stating that SOME DAY, Sarah Palin will most assuredly be the first woman President of the United States!
COUNTRY FIRST! THE HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN IN 2008 !
Posted by: CAROLINA GIRL! | September 5, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
This jackass excuse for a President can’t accept responsibility for anything, he is a lying piece of trash and I hope this selfish, incompetent poor excuse for a man doesn’t get a good nights sleep for the rest of his pathetic life. Thanks for disrespecting and dishonoring over 200 years of America you little worm of a man.
Posted by: Real Americans Don't Buy Into This Government | September 5, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Bob Woodward has something to say about leadership? Hilarious!! Who is he? How about a political stalker begging for attention…just like his silly buddy, al gore. HAS BEEN. NEXT!
Posted by: sunny | September 5, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Another day, another revelation of House of Bush un-American activities committee.
Carolina Girl: If as you say “Biden was right” and we don’t need a President-in-training, how can you possibly assert that Palin is a “breath of fresh air.” Surely the bar is even higher for her, since one week ago the idea of serving as President was the farthest thought from her mind. If she’s not available to answer questions from reporters in an unscripted environment she surely is nowhere near ready to handle national emergencies and foreign policy decisions with ramifications for thousands upon thousands of people.
I understand you are pumped up for your candidate, but you need to expunge the glaring contradictions from your argument. It makes you look like the girl at the pep rally who thinks that the loudest shouting the night before the game will actually matter once the ref blows the starting whistle.
Posted by: Mr Blifil | September 5, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
CAROLINA GIRL! – McCain should be disqualified for singing a song about killing Persians. Surely you can see the evil in the lyrics.
Posted by: Ben Straub | September 5, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
End of Republicans=End of War!
Posted by: mary | September 5, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
At the risk of being unfashionable on this silly site, I point out that history will judge your President, George W. Bush a great president and a great man. In fact, the savageness of the corrupt 8 year liberal media attack is in response to the fact that he made democrats even more irrelevant then they make themselves. I take great joy in debating you Bush haters in person because once faced with something other then the democrat media nonsense, the moronic generalizations you mistake for reality are exposed and you’re left stunned and silent. LOL Unfortunately, neither of these candidates are in his league and we will miss him greatly. Thank you GWB!!
Posted by: sunny | September 5, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Carolina Girl if your husband or boyfriend cheated on you and dumped you for a younger richer girl would he still be honorable in your eyes?
Posted by: nitty64 | September 5, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
United States VICTORY = End of failure loving democrat party
Posted by: sunny | September 5, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
End of Democrats = End of Hypocrisy
End of Obama = End of empty rhetoric and speeches about change.Changes that will never happen once he takes office.
The voice of Illinois “We voted for Obama as our senator. He said he would give us Change. Instead he used our change to pay for his presidential campaign”
Posted by: Samantha | September 5, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Bush is a moron; we’ve all known it. Nothing new here. So, now both McCain and Obama are claiming they are the agent of change. Seems pretty clear to me who seems more likely to be the one likely to change the status quo of the Bush presidency.
Posted by: MIguy | September 5, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has “evolved,” yet he’s continued to oppose key civil rights laws. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.McCain opposes a woman’s right to choose. He said, “I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned.The Children’s Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children’s health care bill last year, then defended Bush’s veto of the bill. Many of McCain’s fellow Republican senators say he’s too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He’s erratic. He’s hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.
Posted by: austinn04 | September 5, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
You libs. are sounding like your in a major meltdown.This is why the people that love this country are just plain sick of you folks.
Hey ABC….Why do you keep promoting this blowhard? This is a man that cruises around in a limo like he is the great credible source of everything.Whata joke.Is their anything new that we don’t already know? Gezzzzzzz
Posted by: OBXRAY | September 5, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
NO OBXRAY we are just pointing out the truth…John McCain is 72 years old. If elected, he’d be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for “inexperience,” here’s who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people. So because we dont agree with your point of view, we dont love our country….Play another song its getting old….
Posted by: austinn04 | September 5, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
McCain-Palin-Bush policy
…always always attack the messenger
Posted by: attackfirst | September 5, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Right up until the congressional election in November, 2006, Bush was saying that we were making great progress in Iraq and that Rumsfeld was doing a great job. The day after the election he fired Rumsfeld and started to concede things weren’t going well in Iraq. We don’t need Bob Woodward to tell us that Bush was detached and lying to the American people about the situation in Iraq!
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 5, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
It seems to me that I hear the GOP screaming how Obama is wrong on everything then the proceed to either follow his policies (attack Taliban/Al-qaeda in Pakistan, set timetable for withdrawal in Iraq, talk to Iran) or co-opt his ideas (suddenly John McCain is the new bastion of “change”?)
Need to get their own ideas, it seems to me, if they don’t like Obama’s…
Posted by: MIguy | September 5, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
forget the press – I’m waiting for Palin to take questions from average people in their famous town hall meetings. I would be an idiot to ask less.
anybody can say look at me make scripted attacks
Posted by: watching | September 5, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
At noon on 20 January 2009 this war criminal and traitor, George Worthless Bush, should go straight from the White House, to a 8 by 10 foot cell at the federal prison in Levenworth, Kansas and remain there then rest of his rotten, miserable, stinking life with no parole.And forced to clean toilets with his tooth brush the rest of his worthless life.
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 5, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Republicans lie at all levels; to Bush and Rove up is down, day is night, and wrong is right—distortions, misinformation and outright lies have eroded credibility with the President and his minions. Insecure, school yard bullies is what the Bush Administration and some Republican members of Congress have become; the time for this crowd to move along is timed to the November 4th election.
Posted by: Lou R | September 5, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Bush speechwriter Matthew Scully had crafted the speech and message even before Palin was picked. With minor changes to match Palins biography, A match made in heaven.
Posted by: researcher | September 5, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
forget the press – I’m waiting for Palin to take questions from average people in their famous town hall meetings. I would be an idiot to ask less.
anybody can say look at me make scripted attacks
Posted by: watching | September 5, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
If you put LIPSTICK on a pig…You still have a pig.
If you put LIPSTICK on a Republican… You still have a Republican..
But the pig smells better..
Posted by: P-51 jock | September 5, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Why is Obama afraid of a town hall meeting with McCain? Could it be his tele-prompter is not allowed. I will vote for a candidate, not a tele-prompter.
Posted by: John W. | September 5, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Bush lost credibility with the American people because he lied to us consistently and systematically. And now his GOP heir is telling us, don’t bother with the issues, just trust him. Enough folks were fooled in 2000, and then in 2004. If we don’t rise up and turn out this style of governance in 2008 we deserve to be lied to.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | September 5, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
This story proves that the Bush administration will come out and flat lie. Note the year Bush came clean that he bs’ed us, 2006… That is between presidential elections. Now we are in a presidential election cycle and they are back into extreme lying mode on a topic they have already came somewhat clean on.
Some people like “Sunny” get upset and whine about the “liberal media” making Bush look bad. Reminder: those were Bush’s own words. He admitted he was less than truthful about how things were going in Iraq. Now Woodward brings it up in a book before the election and here comes Hadley lying about it.
This is fair reporting. Just because it shows your “GW Boys” for the liars they are is no need to shoot the messenger. Blaming Woodward for GW’s lies is pretty stupid and shows your bias is stronger than your common sense.
Posted by: Scalliwag | September 5, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Bush got us into this mess in Iraq, now, McCain will get us out. His surge has worked, this is one republican that has true leadership. McCain is getting us out of the Iraq mess, without giving the terrorists one of the largest oil producing areas in the world. If we listened to Obama, we would have a return visit to Iraq in a short time. It’s better to fix the problem “right” the first time.
McCain-Palin in ’08 & ’12
Posted by: martha S. | September 5, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Woodward has caught the flavor of Bush, as we are aware.
We have the choice now to elect a proven leader, with leadership and experience to guide our country. However, we could elect a person that talks of change, but after 11 years of politics, he has no actions of “change”. I believe the last person of “change”, Bush, was proof, actions speak louder than words.
***** McCain/Palin *****
Posted by: Berger Johns | September 5, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Bush got us into this mess in Iraq, now, McCain will get us out. ”
BOTH Bush and McCain, AND a lot of other people, got us into this.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 5, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
END THE WAR! END THE WAR! END THE WAR!
This war is needlessly killing American Soldiers far more Honorable than McCain, who is part of the reason they were sent to die in the first place, based on some failed political posturing Bush needed to do to assert himself as the most powerful man in the world after the impotence he felt post 9-11.
WHAT A LOSER! PRISON TERMS WILL FOLLOW!
END THE WAR! END THE WAR! END THE WAR!
NOW!
Posted by: END THE WAR | September 5, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
MCCAIN = EXECUTIVE DECISION
OBAMA – “PRESENT”
PALIN = EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE
OBAMA = “NADA”
Posted by: McCain/Palin 2008 | September 5, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
END THE WAR:
Unfortunately, most Americans love war and bullying others as long as they do not have to risk anything. If our leaders were the main problem, that could be easily corrected. Unfortunately, America is a little rotten at the core.
Posted by: DennisNC | September 5, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
I am also a volunteer for the McCain camp to post and stir up trouble in places like this to intimidate Democrats.
I really am a normal guy who collects vintage toy robots in my spare time as well as a conservative Gay Republican.
I will do whatever it takes to put McCain in office, whatever it takes!
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
I am fed all the links I post by my supervisor, who in turn gets his feeds from thousands of other volunteers who search the net for this sort of incendiary content.
I do it because it’s fun to stir up trouble and no one can find me here in the Columbus region of Ohio.
In fact, even my Gay Democratic friends have no idea I do this. My lover thinks I will vote for Obama like him in Nov.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
I started doing this because until recently I never even voted. When I finally registered to vote, it was like being a born again Christian. You know, holier than thou and all.
I am actually tag teaming with a few other posters here who in turn pretend they are Democrats who become convinced of my rhetoric and concede point after point I make to them.
I do this because Obama does the same, except not as well as we do.
We have about 20 posters here alone who fire up drama back and forth, pretending to be stupid Democrats who pale in comparison to the Republican posters. The idea is to make the Dems look stupid.
I work 15 different blogs and boards with my team.
We all happen to be on the Gay Republican coalition. This was our way of volunteering our efforts to the elections.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
In fact, I am not always me. Other members of my team use the same names to post so it looks like we are always here.
This way we are dominating the board round the clock, even when I am sleeping or at work.
I am going to the vintage car show near here tomorrow with my lover. You wouldn’t know it was me if you saw me!
OK, enough of this chatter, let me go back to being the idiot you all know and love.
Actually, it’s time for another member of my team to take over now, so goodnight y’all!
Oh, one more thing, does anyone know how to repair a musical drummer toy robot?
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Dear Jim in OH
How refreshing that you share your gay schemes–three times no less. I have been reading your team’s provocative and hate-filled efforts in many blogs along with PUMAs and ‘alleged’ Democrats turning to the fabulous saviour McCain-Palin ticket.
It is just soooo obvious that even real people like me can see it. You need not snigger.
To show how smart we have become to Republican lies and games, 70-80% of Americans have figured out that Bush-Cheney have lied to us and led us in the wrong direction and into the wrong wars.
So we are changing Washington: McCain-Palin ’08, Palin ’12.
“Bomb, Drill, Attack, Lie, Shoot the Messengers.”
Posted by: susan | September 6, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
i’m not sure other than their constantly changing extremists philosophies full of excuses, fear-mongering, and empty promises, what right right-wingers have tearing down obama after 8 years of delivering nothing.
we now have 1 trillion debt after 1 trillion surplus clinton left – grand 2 trillion hole now, for what. other than tear people down bagging like punks, what record or results do yall have? nothing. and clinton was bad because yall poor folk got an avg $7,500 payraise. and w gave ya a $2,000 pay cut. ungrateful fools. admit it, your dumb. don’t resent that there are smarter elite folks out there.
heck making 260k a year, i’d get a nice bump with mccain’s tax giveaway to us top 5% upper income folk. i’m prepared either way the election goes just have a soul and don’t believe it’s fair to screw the country to get a tax cut i don’t need. other hand, yall right winger america forever crowd forget history of the smug english, french, spanish, to chinese empires before whose mighty empires crumbled cuz they were arrogant. and i think while i stay above water, yall could use a lesson in deep poverty under water to see what it’s like to be a humble human being once again. so that maybe humanity will mean something, and yall stop being fat and spoiled narcisstic assholes who live in the bubble now just thinly insulated from the reality that is rest of the world that’s right behind us about to out compete us and kick our asses.
other hand, f’yall. enough already. i’ve my children to think about.
Posted by: theo | September 6, 2008, 1:52 am 1:52 am
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION.
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES.
ENOUGH OF THE REPUBLICAN “PRO-LIE” AGENDA.
This year,
DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!!!!
Posted by: ENOUGH OF PRO-LIES | September 6, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Lord —- Please make 1/29/2009 come quickly so President Obama can start getting us out of the terrible mess we are in.
Posted by: Beto | September 6, 2008, 1:59 am 1:59 am
jimoh – since you have a deep hole of need of attention to fill, let me just say i truly feel sad for your inane covert preoccupation towards deception to win this election.
i’m a democrat and proud to say i’m a one-man team single-handedly does what you do with multi-tabbed browsing, notepad, and outlook and such, i just say my piece and stand by my words. like a real man.
your story would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
Posted by: theo | September 6, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Woodward is an honorable man and we should listen to him. I do not trust Republicans, END OF STORY.
Posted by: Perspective | September 6, 2008, 2:37 am 2:37 am
This is OUTRAGROUS in every way that we are even talking about the corrupt rancid leadship of Republicans. CLEARLY CLEARLY CLEARLY from day one Bush was not up to the job. He utterly overwhelmed him. all they can do is lie. that is Republicans middle name..lies. Unbelievvable…and Palin oh my God what Barack has in is toenail she doesn’t have in her shrewish body. Our country will CROAK if those thieves and lies who have PROVEN what they will do get in. We need smart, prescient leadership. Emphasis on SMART!! We have ONE ONE ONE last chance as the markets and a lost war continue to tank. Wake up America, think for once, and vote INTELLECT into positions of HUGE power!
Posted by: Natalie Rosen | September 6, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
It seems to me that Bush is mostly responsible for mess this country is in right now. He had total control of both houses when he started his term, and he quickly dumped the country into disaster in multiple ways (wars, financial crisis, economy). Maybe some of it was not his fault, but I think much of it was his fault.
A few months ago McCain was saying how proud he was that he voted with Bush over 90% of the time — more than almost any other senator. Now you don’t hear him advertise that.. but it is still true. And he has the nerve to claim he is the true agent of change?! — I don’t think so.
Posted by: Jane J | September 6, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Serendipity is a b!tch but there is little doubt that George W Bush has lucked into it, big time. If Saddam were still in Baghdad, and Iraq still had its dilapidated infrastructure, the oil coming out of that country would be a trickle and world oil prices would have been *way* out of sight. So, a gold star for W on that one. But, it’s not only that. Now that Iraq’s huge, huge untapped reserves are currently being offered to the world for development, how many US oil conglomerates would have been given a fair shot at their development by Saddam? None? Wow, good guess. Whatever you think of large oil companies like Exxon, they provide vast numbers of jobs here in the US. The more successful they are, the better my 401k looks, and the more I’ll have to spend when I retire (soon). You know, it’s not rocket science. History will, therefore, be a lot kinder to W than are the liberal nuts on this board.
Posted by: Marty | September 6, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
I’m a gay republican too. I admit it. I’ll tell you why. Because having a party that hates gays (the republicans) is actually the best thing for changing this country to allow more rights for gays. Sounds strange, huh? But its true. People tend to rally around the oppressed. The more us gays are oppressed by the republicans, the more sympathy they will get by the general public and the more rights we will eventually win.
I know this sounds crazy and contradictory, but the best thing for the gay community was when pastor Hagee said that Katrina hit new orleans because of all the homosexual sin going on there. To 90% of the country, this is just pure idiocy and it makes most people side with the gay community. This is exactly what we need.
Posted by: Marty | September 6, 2008, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Marty: “The oil coming out of Baghdad would still be a trickle”.
Buddy, I’m not sure if you understand, but the oil coming out of Baghdad IS a trickle. They’ve not been able to rebuild almost ANY of the oil infrastructure. It is a TINY TINY amount that is now being produced.
Yeah, they have tons of it and someday they will make a whole lot of money from it. But you think that the Iraqi’s are just going to roll over and let the US profit from their oil ? I don’t think so. Their government (if it is even remotely a functioning democracy) is going to arrange to get almost all the profit. Why shouldn’t they. They need the money to rebuild their totally crushed country. Most countries do end up getting most of the profit from their own resources (Nigeria puts almost 90% tax on oil exports — and they produce a lot). It is only the US, who lets their companies have all the profit (kind of strange, huh?).
People like Bush and McCain think that letting the oil companies have all the profits from oil is a great idea. Yeah, if you have invested in exxon this is great for you. And who has the biggest investment — oh, yeah, the rich. And who gets screwed… oh yeah, those people who don’t have enough money to be investing millions in exxon — meaning the middle class, like me.
Posted by: jon | September 6, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
I pray every day that Obama will be elected and will be able to change the path this country is on. People like me need a great leader like him.
McCain would just be four more years of Bush. So many people now are losing their homes. People are losing their brave children to a needless war. People are losing faith. People need health care, they need schools, they need jobs, they need a living wage. We need change. We need Obama.
Posted by: Mary | September 6, 2008, 3:35 am 3:35 am
Ben Straub, you’re a brain-washed moron!
Posted by: m7scorpius | September 6, 2008, 3:47 am 3:47 am
John McCain may have been a maverick on many issues in the past. Today he is not! He has now adopted the policies of the extreme right which he hopes will win him the election. Bush went to the extreme right, won the elections and look at what happened over the last 8 years. The debt of the country has doubled from 5 trillion to 10 trillion (and this ent in pesos), the US is in a recession, the cost of living has gone way up, the infrastructure is worsening daily (look at the in city roads, services etc, the pollution of lake rivers) — and yet you all are willing to go back to the extreme right that is strongly supported by big oil money. Barrack is a man with at least some semblance of a plan that would at the least improve life a little bit for the average joe. McCain will only bring more of the last 8 years — he is now fully tied in to the same people as GW Bush and my friends, nothing can change, these people will not allow it because to change things for the better means adjusting their lifestyles downwards which would never happen.
Posted by: Thinking of the future | September 6, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
The one who said his 401K is just ducky surely doesn’t jive with the people who have 401Ks who have told said ad infinitum they are in the tank. Look at the news and see the bail outs of HUGE companies because of lousy leadership which did not oversee them. I don’t know what that guy means when he says HIS 401K is just wonderful. Lucky him. Please post your investment broker to the rest of us. My friends 401K’s are IN THE SOUP. Moreover, do you think 4000 plus lives and an unstable Middle East and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead hundreds of thousands wounded and millions of refugees who did no harm to you is just fabby so that your GD 401K can be so wonderful for you? You and your Republican immoral and unethical sewers are taking this country into the black hole. We won’t be talking about 401Ks soon. We will be talking about physically just staying alive.
Posted by: Marcia | September 6, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
We look like total idiots to the rest of the world. Go ahead believe all this Republican talking points. They know they are talking to IDIOTS who will vote for them. Maybe for once for one lonely time the majority will see through to the guy behind the curtain. Republicans are NOT about most of us they are about the very few who are the top 1 percent adn they do NOT care a wit about us. I suggest that even THEY should care about us as who will they get to do their laundry if the market goes off a cliff? Who will save them then? NO ONE they will ahve to cut their own crass, do their own laundry and cook their own lousy food. And oh yes, the aids in nursing homes and hospitals won’t be there to take their pee or puke when they are ill. Have fun…it’s going to be a wild ride and ALL of us will be swept up in the misery even them!
Posted by: Ken | September 6, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
This entire bush/cheney adminstation has been a DISASTER. You repubs can try to clean this mess up all you want to. The republicans are a JOKE.
McSame and Palin will be more of the same GARBAGE and we all know it !!!!!!!
Obama/Biden 08 and 12 YES WE WILL !!!!!!
Posted by: Order | September 6, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
“we now have 1 trillion debt after 1 trillion surplus clinton left -”
Yes…and a Democratic nominee who has continually trashed the Clintons throughout the campaign.
The Democratic party you knew doesn’t exist any more.
Posted by: creeper | September 6, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
To Carolina Girl:
Those who protest this war also fight for our country.
From,
Carolina Boy
Posted by: Kenneth Pennington | September 6, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
Dont know anything about the book, but has anyone else here heard enough of “Bob and Lee Woodward” as I have? Seem like a nice couple, OK. But what they went through when Bob was injured was not as amazing as what regular folk go through. Most wives are not at “Disneyworld” like Lee was when they find out their husbands are injured. And most aren’t loaded onto a private jet to get to their husband and have NO financial worries while sitting by their spouse’s side day after day.
Posted by: stacie b | September 6, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
To all of the Obama Supporters who claim that their candidate will be better than McCain/Palin – where is your evidence? Where is your proof? Where is his record? Just show us his executive experience, or his major legilations, or his bipartisanship, or his history of successfully completing large projects, or his ability to deliver on what he promises. Where is the validation the keeps his promises, such as his promise to use Public funds for the general election? McCain has an actual verifiable history of heeping his promises. He has a history of reform and major legislation. He has a history of bipartisanship. On the major issues of our time, such as actually solving the situation in Iraq, he is the architect of our success. You say that you want improvement, but Obama has a much liklier probability of failure than George Bush had in 2000.
The fact is, you are reactionary. You hate George Bush to the core of your soul, a burning firebrand that sears your psyche every day. You are voting for Obama because he says that he is the anti-Bush. But what you are actually voting for is dangerous inexperience, and the same polar blank check authority (with a strongly democratic congress and Obama) that led to the excesses you accuse George Bush of. Giving Obama the presidency with a democratic congress is like giving a child an M16 with the safety off.
Posted by: HawkTheSlayer | September 6, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am
Bob Woodruff just wants to make money, honest or dishonest. He has written about every President since I have been alive. Wait two months, his book will be at half-price or at the dollar store. He nees to stop what he is doing.
Posted by: Janice | September 6, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am
McCain should be considered a hero for his life as a POW. The fact that he got into our alma mater (US Naval Academy) because his dad and grandfather were admirals does not impress me like the other sons of admirals I went to school with. The fact that he was 5th from the bottom of the class (see his biography) gives me pause considering Bush did not even do that bad at Yale. As a Navy brat, then Naval Officer and finally the husband of an heiress I can understand his statement “I really don’t know that much about the economy.” What was that statement “Its the economy stupid!”
As for Palin, googling her history is like that of a Black Widow. Give her an opening and she will find your weakness and kill you.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
So “All the Presidents Men” that brought down the Nixon Administration was fiction?
Government needs to be accountable to the people. If it is journalists that bring out that accountability than be it. Each administration tries to spin the facts to make them look good in present and as their role in history. So the journalists (who I am always skeptical of) have their place.
Posted by: John | September 6, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am
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Bush/Cheney a disaster? In the words of Slick Willie, “GIVE ME A BREAK”.
I only wish we had another 4 years of Bush. We could win another war, keep the economy booming, until democrats in congress do their thing.
We now have the Patriot Act to help prevent another 9/11, we have the Constitution finally being saved by the Heller decision, and we have democrats crying like babies without their bottles.
Sarah Palin? She hasn’t voted “Present” one time.
Oh, Woodward and Bernstein? How many times are they going to milk the country with their liberal BS?
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 6, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am
For those of you that say Obama can’t be trusted I have to ask what proof do you have that he has not or will not keep his word on everything he has done and said? I say that you are nothing but hypocrites because of the fact that John McSame has voted with bush more than 90% of the time and you imply HE CAN BE TRUSTED??? Let’s get real here and face up to the facts. It’s time for a real change and not mcsame.
Posted by: con me not | September 6, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
The majority of American’s know George W. Bush is the village idiot that gor elected to Office not once but twice. That is what the Republican party was willing to inflict on this country, and now they want to cram McCain who thinks we owe him the Presidency because he was a “POW”, well I don’t owe him one measley thing. The crowning part of McCain is, he’s willing put the most unqualified individual one heart beat away from the nuclear trigger. That alone tells me he nutzy wacko but then we knew that any way.
Posted by: ronnieraygun | September 6, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
Palin’s ok with me because:
She opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest.
She doesnt’ believe that global warming is real.
She thinks we should teach creationism in school.
She believes God told us to go to war in Iraq.
Sounds like the perfect woman for an conservative like me.
Posted by: Palin OK because | September 6, 2008, 5:46 am 5:46 am
Palin is a right-wing religious conservative…let me give you an example of a country that has been ruled by right-wing religious conservatives for centuries…Afghanistan.
Posted by: garysgary | September 6, 2008, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Ben Straub needs to be cut off from the GOP-Rush_Hannity cool aid. WOW!
OK About Bush…NO KIDDING! He lied? NO KIDDING? This guy is still after 8 LONG years still so not qualified to be President. So now the GOP is trying to pass McCain off as some kind of CHANGE candidate? LMAO you have got to be kidding. They must believe the American people are idiots. To bad for the RNC they finally have wised up after the Republicans have ruined our country and it’s going to be a LONG LONG time before they will be able to hoodwink the citizens of this country again. McCain…LOL.
Posted by: MJ | September 6, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Sarah Palin doesn’t have the knowledge nor the education to be #2 in this country.
No one wants to discuss her education. Why? Because it took the PTA/hockeymom 6 yrs and 6 different schools to complete a 4 yr degree in journalism with a minor in sportscasting.
The dishonest republicans will have you believe she is qualified to run a country of 300 million people based on being Governor for 1.5 yrs. As mayor, she left the small town with 22 million in debt. Oh yeah, that’s just what this country needs, someone without the knowledge and the education to make decisions on domestic and foreign policy.
Lets get real and HONEST people. She is not qualified.
Posted by: bc46 | September 6, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am
Well if I had to choose between telling the soldiers that we were losing and demoralizing them, and keeping them alive, I think I would have told them the truth and get them the hell out. To put them in harm’s way for political purposes is just plain shameful. With McCain there would be no change in this kind of behavior by our government. We cannot and should not ever put our soldiers in harm’s way for political convienences. I’m sure the families of the over 4000 soldiers that have died in this obscene war would have appreciated some honesty for paying the ultimate price.
Posted by: Jake | September 6, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am
01-20-09 The END of an ERROR…
Posted by: pt | September 6, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
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Bush/Cheney a disaster? In the words of Slick Willie, “GIVE ME A BREAK”.
I only wish we had another 4 years of Bush. We could win another war, keep the economy booming, until democrats in congress do their thing.
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 9:31:01 AM
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Hey genius, we haven’t “won” the first 2 wars yet.
Ignorance, the rally call of the Republicans…
Posted by: Ayma Dumass | September 6, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am
susan,
You are being duped by an imposter. My name has been hijacked (which is easy to do here). The posts you see above are being written by a moron who is just trying to discredit me because he doesn’t have anything substantive to discuss and is unable to rebutt my points. It’s disgusting, but not unexpected. Not only am I not anti-gay, I’m not even a Republican, and I certainly disagree with McCain on numerous issues as you can see in my posts this past week. I haven’t even contributed to his campaign.
Think about it. If I were an operative for McCain, why the heck would I reveal my plans on a widely read board and discredit myself? Don’t be so gullible. The imposter is simply trying to shut me down, but he’ll fail.
I’ll be back to make my points but under a name.
So from here on out, if anyone sees “Jim in OH” as a poster, you know it’s not me. I’ll post this message in other places as well.
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 6:19 am 6:19 am
The left party are liars and crooks!! They have made the American people believe that the President is a bad person. The President is a true American and loves his country. He has a different vision than the left has, so he gets downplayed so you vote against his party. HELLO!! WAKE UP AMERICA, DONT GET BRAINWASHED. This is called false propaganda. If anybody understands politics, then you will know this. The left is only doing this to get your vote. That is why they use the biased media to help them to get your vote.
Same thing with the oil companies. They make you believe that oil companies are bad, again a way to get your vote. Oil companies have less profit margins than most companies, for example Microsoft’s profit margin is twice as much as the oil companies. Just like any other business, there are cycles, in the 90′s it was the tech sector, and this decade it has been the commodities turn, so yes the oil companies have higher profits. This is called capitalism. The left hates globalization.
Oil companies are good because they provide everything we have and use in our lives. They create globalization!!!!Now, if any oil companies are performing illegal and fraudulent activities, then they should be punished, just like the Enron executives.
Another thing that the left does so to get your vote is that they always say that the rich are getting richer. If you think about it this is a poor man’s way of thinking, and that is what they teach the American people. First of all, the rich will always be rich, under every party, unless they screw up personally. We should be happy of the wealth of this country and that it is getting wealthier.
Second of all, every move that rich people make, they create jobs. When they buy mansions, they create jobs, when they buy yahts & planes, they create jobs, when they start a business, they create jobs, when they make investments, they create jobs, when they buy real estate, they create jobs, and so on. Rich people don’t hide their money under their pillow, they put it to work, thus CREATING JOBS!!!
Sadly, many people have been brainwashed, about everything, the economy, the war, our energy sources, global warming (this summer was not even warm, people please understand that most climate change is a result of the orbital eccentricities of Earth and variations in the sun’s output!!!!)…..
For example, Al Gore has already made 100 million dollars from his “global warming policies”. That is a lot of money. So, what was the result, did he save us from global warming, or he just took OUR MONEY??????
I do understand we have to protect our environment, but to come up with some BS theory and make speeches collecting our money. CROOKS!!!!!!
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Let’s tell the real truth…this war and the coming war with Iran is all about protecting Israel. Why do you think they had to “spin” the reasons for going to war in the first place? The Israel lobby controls our congress, our state department and certainly this administration. They will probably control our next administration regardless of who wins. All of us should tell the families of the dead and wounded that their soldiers died for Israel! A few hours before Palins speech Leiberman introduced her to members of AIPAC…now, why would he do that? Why is it so important for her to meet with AIPAC officials just a few days after she was picked? Some of you won’t like hearing this, but, it is true…we have become The United States of Israel
Posted by: garysgary | September 6, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
My new name will be David G. That’s my real name. You can also call me Mr.Atomic.
David
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Bob Woodward has lost all credibility since he is a Bush Whacker It is not that his hatred of Bush is so transparent, I feel his book should be an auto-biography of himself and be titled The Enemy Within. With “fiends” like him, we don’t need “enemies”. One has to wonder why the liberal media and journalists are so hateful and misleading. Our country is in a state of moral decay and we can only blame the liberal democrats for that who do not place a value of the most innocent and vulnerable of life. It seems they are into “if it feels good, do it” and what’s in it for me. The kind of self-serving mentality who practices what they preach… so let’s encourage our children to have sex for the mere pleasure of it and without having any responsibility regarding their carnal actions. After all, Barrack Obama says he supports abortion since he would not want his daughter to be punished with a mistake. Good thing his mother didn’t think he was a mistake when she got pregnant with him.
Posted by: Fran | September 6, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
I have been reading a lot of these posts and there are so many people that have been brainwashed by the leftwing politicians. We all know that the left likes bigger government, thats no secret, so the bigger the government the more money will come out of our pockets. This is a very logical statement. And here is an example. The state of california can’t still balance their budget even with the great, smart Schwarzenegger running the show. The simple answer is that the 4th biggest economy in the world has TOO many state agencies! Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and Biden will do exactly that, create too many government agencies. Our taxes are going to go through the roof!
Second of all, everybody bashes the economy and blame the President. How childish. They don’t understand that in capitalism you have economic cycles, it is part of nature, there are economic booms and economic busts. Just read about facts. What fascinates me is the power of US and that is what capitalism is all about. Lower taxes works!!! United States had the recession of 2001-2003, the tragic events of 9-11, two wars, the hurricanes, the real estate meltdown, mortgage meltdown and the financial industry meltdown, and these events have affected millions of people, no doubt. But despite all this, United States is still standing and the majority are still working, and productivity is up. Any other country in the world would collapse after all these events. Let’s be grateful.
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
Pffft. Not to worry, imposter. I’m not stupid enough to actually tell you my new name. You can just squirm and try to figure out what it is. Good luck, idiot.
The REAL “Jim in OH”
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
Here are my observations about the war, as I have visited and stayed in the Middle East in the 70′s and 80′s.
A brief history to why we are in a war now. The problems that we have today are because of a liberal president, Jimmy Carter, who planted his seeds in the Middle East in the late 1970’s. All dictators in the Middle East, Yasser Arafat, Mohammar Qadaffi, Saddam Hussein, and Ayatolla Khomeini, just to mention a few, were all brought to power around 1979 under Jimmy Carter. As a result, we have seen a rise in terrorism, poverty, genocide, and corruption in the Middle East during the last three decades, and now, another war. This is a well-known fact. Even Osama Bin Laden was working with the Carter administration in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s in Afghanistan. Today, Jimmy Carter is still praising the terrorist organizations in the Middle East.
Former liberal US president, Bill Clinton, former liberal French presidents, Mitterand and Chirac, and left extremists from the North Korean, Russian, Venezuelan, and Chinese governments, just to mention a few, were all supportive of the corruption in the Middle East and had ties with the regimes in power at the time. They all had close relationships with Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. The most visited foreign leader by Bill Clinton was Yasser Arafat during his presidency (compare that to George W Bush’s most visited foreign leader, Tony Blair), and during that time the media said that Bill Clinton was trying to restore peace in the Middle East. But come on, what peace? And, why didn’t Bill Clinton go after Osama Bin Laden after the first bombings of the World Trade Center and other terrorist attacks against the capitalistic world? Bin Laden was even caught in 1993 but nothing was done to him. Evidently, this lead to the tragic events of 9/11, the bombings in Madrid & London, more chaos, and now a war. Peace can never be achieved when you have corrupt leaders in power throughout the world.
Before, I get to the Iraq war, let me explain, why the left likes corruption in third world countries. The foreign policy of liberals in power and the left extremists consists of creating dictatorships in countries that are rich in natural resources. Just look at our world. It is not a coincidence that all “third world” countries, which are rich in natural resources, are all run under some sort of a dictatorship. Look at Africa, South America, some Asian countries, and the Middle East. And these continents contain the majority of the people in the world (roughly over 4 billion people!), living in poverty, oppression, corruption, wars, executions, tortures, genocide, exploitation and no freedom whatsoever. Where are the anti-war activists, humanitarian activists, or anti-genocide activists for these appalling events that are happening in our world every single day? Where are the liberals to protest against this cruelty that has been happening year after year throughout our history? The reality is that they only show up to protest passionately against George W. Bush, who has shifted the world towards capitalism. That is the reason for all the noise in the last 7 years.
The liberals in power then have business arrangements with these kinds of regimes, so that only them (left extremists) will benefit from it, leaving the majority of the people in the world in poverty and living under extreme hardship and tyranny. They like corruption in the world because that is how their fortunes and objectives are made. They oppose globalization and the growth of people around the world. This is truly very sad and disgusting. Moreover, they prevent businesses from growing by enforcing higher taxes and implementing more mandates and regulations. And in the third world countries, all businesses are controlled by the regimes in power. I wonder why?
Now, you understand why the liberals in US are against using America’s sources of energy! For example, they oppose offshore drilling for oil because they say that it will harm the environment and destroy the wildlife. But, it is okay for other nations, such as countries in the Middle East, to perform the offshore drilling. In other words, screw the people in the Middle East, screw their environment and screw their wildlife.
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
So far Sarah Palin is four more years of White House speech writers.
The press has a responsibility to burst through the bubble already created by the Bush/McCain team.
So far she appears as a line of lies, and eight years of that is enough.
Posted by: newz4i | September 6, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am
So Bob wrote a history book according to Bob. Big deal, I see a lot of ‘history’ books being sold on the sidewalks of cities across by mostly unlicensed booksellers too, written by ‘historians’. This is 2008, I don’t know about you but I’m moving on….
Posted by: Present130 | September 6, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am
http://impalin.com/impalin/
The real Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Mr. Mandel | September 6, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
oBAMA had a choice and he chose his ego before country. He is to blame for his poor strategy decision.
Posted by: Irma | September 6, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
Bush’s policy in Iraq is ‘succeeding’ for two reasons, and two reasons only: Ethnic cleansing has been completed (i.e., Baghdad neighborhoods are now either totally Shiite or totally Sunni), and we are paying our hard-earned taxpayer dollars as extortion money to the Sunnis and Shiites so as not to attack us. The ‘Surge’ as such, is nonsense!
Posted by: urtbvq | September 6, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
And here is my explanation of the Iraq war.
First of all, the Iraq war is extremely important and the US can afford the Iraq war. The cost of war (+/- $750 billion, a lot of money) has only been 1% of the $63 trillion GDP over the 5-year period of war. Right now, the Iranian regime has become very dangerous and is a huge threat. Looking at a map of the Middle East, Iran is currently being surrounded by the US and allies. You have Turkey, Russia and the Caspian Sea in the north, then you have Afghanistan and Pakistan in the east, you have the Persian Gulf in the southwest, and Iraq in the west. This tactic prevents Iran from mobilizing its army into the neighboring countries, and from attacking Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Moreover, it prevents Al-Qaeda from taking over Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, which could result in a possible India-Pakistan war again. Imagine what would happen if the allies and US left these regions. In my opinion, a huge disaster, and as a result, the US and Europe will then have to enter a much, much bigger and costlier war!
In addition, how can you create peace in the Middle East and the world when you have a bunch of dictators ruling (supported by left extremists), each worth hundreds of millions of dollars or more, whom keep threatening to attack US, Israel and the capitalistic world, and whom are depressing and executing their own people every single day, assigning teenagers to suicide bombings, demeaning women, and creating fear by coercion. This is not humanity or what liberal really means. I reiterate again that this is happening to the majority of the people in the world!
Fortunately, today all that is changing, slowly but surely. Saddam Hussein is gone, Yasser Arafat is gone, the Taliban is almost gone, and Mohammar Qadaffi, the smartest of them all (learnt his lesson from former US president, Ronald Reagan), opened his doors by giving in his warfare. We are also succeeding in the Iraq war. Additionally, we are seeing a gradual downfall of dictators in other parts of the world, such as in Africa and North Korea. A gradual downfall of terrorist organizations, such as the IRA from Ireland, again, an organization that was influenced by the radical left and trained in Syria and Afghanistan, and the left-wing FARC guerillas in Colombia, (the Spanish terrorist group, ETA was about to disarm in 2004 when right-wing president of Spain, Jose Maria Aznar, was in power, but the current socialist president, Jose Luis Zapatero, obviously did not follow through, which has led to more recent bombings in Spain). All this is one gradual step forward to democracy in the world.
Iran has become a very dangerous country. Hezbollah which was created by Iran gained power in Lebanon (neighbors with Israel), just recently, and the same for the terrorist group Hamas, that gained control of Syria. Iran is trying to expand, because they know that they cannot win a war with US or Israel, so they use terrorism. Do you get it now!!! Right now they are building a missile system in Venezuela, and God knows how many of these terrorist groups are here and in Europe.
You see, the LEFT PARTY always downplays these things. We have to learn from history. Before World War 2 took place all the liberals and socialsts and communists downplayed Winston Churchills concern about Adolf Hitler. So, you know how that ended. It cost 10 million lives, and destroyed the global economy.
Let’s not repeat history. This is why the Iraq war took place. Too many dictators with power and money, wanting to take over the world. And Saddam Hussein did have Weapons of Mass Destruction. He used them in the Iran-Iraq war in the ’80′s against Iran. He had chemical weapos. In that war 1 million innocent young Iranians died and 1/2 a million young innocent Iraqi’s died.
LIBERALS IN POWER are not what everybody thinks they are. Welcome to the world of politics.
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Finally,
I am not against Obama because he is black. My boyfriend is black too.
I am a gay conservative. I think women should have the same rights as men.
We don’t do abortion, so they can’t do abortions.
I do not believe in Gay marriage either. Marriage makes it too hard to drop one lover for another.
Jim in OH
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
I did not make that post above. The liberal media that controls this board used the name David up there to discredit me because they can’t stop me from telling the truth about the liberals.
That is not my moniker.
David
Posted by: Jim in OH | September 6, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
You gotta be kidding me. Woodward is such an opportunistic dirtbag. Everything he writes has the same melodramatic “All the Presidents Men” twang to ti, and to be honest I wish this old coot would retire already. I am not a Bush fan, but I’m sick and tired of these sensationalist geeks making mountains out of molehills to sell their slimy boomer books. Woodward is a loser. Face it. Where is his cabana boy Bernstein? At least when they co-wrote there was a collective IQ over 100. Speaking of low IQ’s, Bush is the most inarticulate moron to ever step into the White House. Worst decision Americans didn’t make
Posted by: Hangy Johnson | September 6, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
See, they did it again!
I will only post using my female names from here on to discredit the liberal media.
Jim in OH
Posted by: David | September 6, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am
Republicians make this country weak.
Posted by: True North 8 | September 6, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
Is it possible to impeach a presidential candidate?..
can we just get McSame/Pain out of the way now and spare the American people any further embarassment from their campaign?
Posted by: Lawrence | September 6, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
Whatever it is……I TRUST BOB WOODWARD MUCH MUCH MORE THAN BUSH’s WHITE HOUSE.
Posted by: Sutter197 | September 6, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am
According to Palin, Iraq war was a task from God. You know I dislike the type of religious fanatics that blames everything on God – a line has to be drawn somewhere for individual responsibility. God is not evil. The Iraq war was iniated on lies sporned by selfish motives.
Posted by: sally | September 6, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am
How can you believe and trust a political party that ruin the country’s economy and international image in the last eight years. Shall you give them another 4 years? No way, no how, no McCain!
Posted by: Sutter197 | September 6, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
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Really glad to hear that Bush is such a moron, dufus, chimp. After all, since he defeated two brilliant, educated, smart guys for president, just what does that make them??????
Palin is not educated enough? Well then why don’t we just elect a president of a university with a doctor’s degree to be president????
Probably because they wouldn’t know sheit from shinola about making a decision in the middle of the night. They would probably vote “Present” when the Russians are charging our coast.
A leader is someone who has faced the enemy, who will do more than studder and stammer and shake when he has to “face” O’Reilly.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 6, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am
Ol Bob is at it again……
He should be hung as a traitor!
Posted by: Ben | September 6, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Palin is reported to have attempted to ban certain books from libraries while mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.
Palin attends a church where speakers charge that violence against Israelis is divine punishment for the failure of Jews to accept Jesus, just two weeks ago.
Palin’s also used her line-item veto as Governor to slash funding for an Alaska shelter that serves teen mothers.
Posted by: starstruck | September 6, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
At 72, McCain looks like a retarded teenage trash, high in drug when he sing the song to bomb the Persian innocent people. By the way, I heard that dimentia people at old age resorted to behavioral change.
Posted by: Sutter197 | September 6, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am
Are we to wonder why Bob Woodward HAD to have this book published during the campaign? Just great timinng for Bob don’t you think? He could have waited to have this published after the election but it was toooo important to get his bias out there. Amazing, does this guy have ANY tact? Or for that matter,any class? Whether you were for this war or not, let it play out and let Bush finish his term before writing a book. I wonder how many books Woodard wrote about Clinton? I think personally Woodard LOVES the spotlight on him no matter who it hurts – democrat or republican. It’s all about him. He’s got to compete somehow with the four candidates. I think since Nixon, he wants to see who he can bring down. The higher up the better. He DOESN’T THINK ABOUT THE PRICE THAT IS PAID JUST SO HE CAN GET THE SCOOP! He doesn’t think what this has done to our relations with Iraq! The left is sooo much for diplomacy but if you burn your bridges, not a whole lot can be done to build them back!!! SHAME ON YOU BOB WOODARD!
Posted by: justrighttoo | September 6, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am
justrighttoo,
You poor thing. I am sure O’Reilly’s book or any other right wingnut’s publication would be readily rationalized as OK and relevant in your fragile eggshell mind.
OH, that’s right, you think he’s doing it out of his political affiliations, like a good commie.
You silly baby, he’s doing it because releasing it now will SELL and make him big buck$.
OH yeah, that doesn’t fit into your imaginary view of Democrats. Capitalism can only be exploited by Republicans.
Posted by: Nert | September 6, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am
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Studderer197, they want you back across the border.
Starstruck, get us some information that does not come from dailykos.
Haven’t you libs run out of stuff from the BS tank yet?
Give it up, it’s going to be ————
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 6, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am
Bush will go down as the WORST president ever. He lied constantly to the American public about the war so he and his buddies could make money and laugh all the way to the bank, while getting our guys killed. Why the hell Congress doesn’t impeach Bush and Cheney is beyond me. Maybe they’ve joined the other Republicans in the men’s room – tap dancing.
Posted by: AM 08 | September 6, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
Woodward is a hack journalist like so many others in the business.
Posted by: Sluggo | September 6, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
You people are confusing Bob Woodruff, injured in Iraq with Bob Woodward the author. Get your facts straight before you post incorrect and stupid comments.
Posted by: jel120 | September 6, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
There are going to be people who can’t understand why others don’t think Bush is a great president and others who can’t understand why everyone doesn’t agree that he did more damage to the USA than al-Qaeda could have ever hoped to do. I feel that most of those supporting Bush can’t possibly have any serious knowledge of history or mathematics, but that’s apparently why we have a Democracy. Of course, so did Germany in the 1930′s.
Posted by: Mickey | September 6, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
Hey, I’m contacting ABC News to see what can be done about this name hijacking issue. The psychopath that hijacked my “Jim in OH” name has hijacked others. I’m in information security. He can be traced.
I’m going to urge that they implement a name registration system like the other ABC blog and record IP information. That way, if nuts like this continue to cause problems, their IP provider can be contacted and they can be blocked.
Anyone who knows me here knows that I would never write in such a crass, outrageous way to incite others. I have a very unique writing style that looks nothing like the imposter’s, and that’s true for others here as well. This moron seems to be going back and forth hijacking different people’s names, making them seemingly attack each other. He’s a mental midget. In fact, some of the phraseology he uses is laughably sterotypical and designed to exploit to do nothing more than anger people and pit them against each other. It’s beyond the pale, but that’s where we are.
The real shame in all this is that this is a forum for the discussion of ideas. This is what makes America great in my mind. Attempts to discredit the integrity of other posters who have dissenting opinions for the sheer purpose of agitation is sick.
One thing is clear. Some Obama supporters will stop at nothing to stifle dissenting opinion of their candidate. Nothing. So just know that and question posts that look nothing like the user you’ve interacted with in the past. Everyone has a very unique style, and this idiot’s is nothing like mine. He has the intellectual capacity of rock.
I’ll likely check out for awhile or maybe post on a more secure blog. But know this, agitators. You will NOT stop dissent against your candidate. You are powerless to do it, even as you smear the rest of us.
The REAL “Jim in OH”
Posted by: DevolvingBoard | September 6, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am
==You people are confusing Bob Woodruff, injured in Iraq with Bob Woodward.
Posted by: jel120 | Sep 6, 2008 11:47:58 AM==
Gee, I didn’t know Woodruff was in Iraq with Woodward. I certainly didn’t they were both injured. Both ARE journalists though, right? I mean, they were in Iraq together as you say.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
Posted by: Dirk | September 6, 2008, 7:59 am 7:59 am
Bush will go down in history as the WORST PRESIDENT EVER!
Posted by: Atheist 1 | September 6, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
You people also know me to be highly intelligent and very capable of voicing my own opinions in clear and irrevocable fashion.
This pathetic, stupid, ignorant moron is obviously in collusion with the Liberal ABC news on this.
They are obviously revealing my IP address so the impostor can readily identify me as I change names here.
ABC, this is really an unfair, leftist tactic that will not work. I am in Information Security, so I know how they are doing it.
Otherwise, if ABC wasn’t working with them, they’d never know how to spot all of my IDs here.
In fact, it’s probably ABC pretending to be someone else just to discredit me!
Free speech out the window by the liberal fascists!
The Real “Jim in OH”
Posted by: DevolvingBoard | September 6, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Just remember, pit bulls are known for attacking w/out cause regardless of whether or not they wear lipstick!
I would not want to be likened to a pit bull if I were a soccer mom.
Says a lot about what she really is/believes in her inner being.
Posted by: Concerned | September 6, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
sunny,
I agree that GWB did a few great things. When he took office, Democrats in the House had just about given up ALL hope of ever being able to put together a majority (however slim) anytime soon. There was much talk about waiting until the NEXT generation … many leaders were planning to retire … others spoke of a PERMANENT MINORITY status … then along came GWBush and he did in 6 YEARS what should have taken a generation! This fall, the Democrats appear to be poised to take OVER 250 house seats! WOW! Not in my WILDEST dreams did I EVER think that would be possible … Nancy Pelosi will be SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE for LIFE!!
Thank you GWB …
Posted by: truth seeker | September 6, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am
CAROLINA GIRL! – its amazing to me that you people will just blow past the facts that Palin exaggerated her accomplishments and flat lied in her speech. It doesn’t bother you in the least bit. To Republicans a lie is ok if it is spewed to meet what they consider the higher propose. It doesn’t bother you in the least bit that John McCain was not allowed to make his own choice of a running mate that he was forced to go with Palin because the extremists in your party would not all Joe Lieberman. Total hypocrites, ALL OF YOU>
Posted by: dan | September 6, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Jimoh: you’ve succeeded in examplifying what the Republican party is all about. You’ll even lie to your lover.
Makes a truth out of the old saw that you’ll never find a Republican with a conscience or a heart.
Posted by: Caleb | September 6, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
Pit bulls are also dogs. Are soccer moms dogs that reproduce without end with offspring that reproduce w/out end as well?
Sounds harsh but I’m not the one who made the comment. I’m just evaluating what she said.
There is always much truth in jest!
Posted by: Concerned | September 6, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am
One has to wonder if the choice we now have is the lesser of the two evils?
Posted by: Concerned | September 6, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
Hijacked again (though I intended the name to be one-time use). And he used my “REAL” signature to look authentic. Just know that anyone can look like anyone else here. All we really have is our own integrity, of which this bonehead has none. Can you guys tell the difference between our writing styles? Pretty obvious, isn’t it? I don’t write one- and two-line paragraphs like that. I would never attack the forum provider either and I’m not paranoid. Take care and know that your name can be hijacked. Warn each other of it. Sorry if anyone was offended by the imposter’s statements. I assure you they weren’t mine.
When I hear from ABC News, I’ll be in touch.
I’m retiring this name now. Any further posts you see are not from me.
Jim
Posted by: DevolvingBoard | September 6, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Hijacked again (though I intended the name to be one-time use). And he used my “REAL” signature to look authentic. Just know that anyone can look like anyone else here. All we really have is our own integrity, of which this bonehead has none. Can you guys tell the difference between our writing styles? Pretty obvious, isn’t it? I don’t write one- and two-line paragraphs like that. I would never attack the forum provider either and I’m not paranoid. Take care and know that your name can be hijacked. Warn each other of it. Sorry if anyone was offended by the imposter’s statements. I assure you they weren’t mine.
When I hear from ABC News, I’ll be in touch.
I’m retiring this name now. Any further posts you see are not from me.
Jim
Posted by: DevolvingBoard | September 6, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Hijacked again (though I intended the name to be one-time use). And he used my “REAL” signature to look authentic. Just know that anyone can look like anyone else here. All we really have is our own integrity, of which this bonehead has none. Can you guys tell the difference between our writing styles? Pretty obvious, isn’t it? I don’t write one- and two-line paragraphs like that. I would never attack the forum provider either and I’m not paranoid. Take care and know that your name can be hijacked. Warn each other of it. Sorry if anyone was offended by the imposter’s statements. I assure you they weren’t mine.
When I hear from ABC News, I’ll be in touch.
I’m retiring this name now. Any further posts you see are not from me.
Jim
Posted by: DevolvingBoard | September 6, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
This book is probably the tip-of-the-iceberg. If America knew what this criminal Administration has done there would probably be an armed assualt on all of those useless and self-interest “law-makers”.
Posted by: john | September 6, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am
“We await your triumphant return.”
-The Village of Crawford-
Posted by: pLANETaX | September 6, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Greetings The Real “Jim in OH”,
“You people also know me to be highly intelligent and very capable of voicing my own opinions in clear and irrevocable fashion.”
I understand that a good laugh each day is good for ones health. If true, I want to thank you for providing TODAYS belly laugh …
BTW, the word you were groping for might have been either “incontrovertible” or “irrefutable”.
Posted by: truth seeker | September 6, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Sarah Palin is a Christian. She believes Jesus our Lord and Savior is guiding her hand. That’s all I need to know. God bless John McCain for choosing Sarah Palin. God bless George Bush for providing them with solid ground to continue the Lords plans for America.
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
The REAL Iraq Policy :
The NAZI FASCIST Bush CRIME REGIME
Deliberately Fabricated Reports
Intentionally Delivered to The American people
To Falsely and Fraudulently – Advocate a War ! !
Posted by: lastdance365 | September 6, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” Quote by Hermann Goering (1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich.
Posted by: dan | September 6, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Surely, voting with the worst president in history 90% of the time cannot be forgotten. In 2000 he was an option, now in the world of trees, he’s a bush!
Posted by: Nelly | September 6, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
CA Susan – are you telling us that you only have one criterion for choosing a president? Religion? Are you out of you’re mind?!
Posted by: dan | September 6, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Greetings CA Susan,
You say that all you need to know about your leaders is that “Jesus … is guiding her(his) hand”.
OK, in America you don’t need ANY valid reason to choose you candidate … however, my questions to you are …
Does it EVER enter your mind what might be BEST for AMERICA? Also, in your opinion, is there ANY difference in degree or kind between YOU and the TALIBAN we are fighting in Afghanistan. (and by hosting al-Qaeda the REAL culprits in the 9-11 attacks)?
And one more, what if I told you that RIGHT NOW, as I type this note to YOU, that JESUS is guiding my fingers …?
Posted by: truth seeker | September 6, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
dan,
Yes, that’s all I need. I know that middle eastern religions and the rest of the world, including the communists are all collaborating to destroy America.
Christianity is the only religion that is untainted by the middle eastern and communist influences.
As a European religion, Christanity addresses all of the needs of our true Americans.
Jesus is our lord. He will help us destroy all of our enemies. McCain will lead us into Holy War to abolish the unfaithful. We will reign victorious in God’s world, as he intended, as the chosen nation of God.
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
A lot of people believe God is directing them…the muslim terrorists, the guy who just killed folks this past week, and surprise, surprise, Sarah Palin. Since knowing God is directing one’s hand is enough for you, I’m sure a terrorist under the leadership of God would be ok as a president for you as well!
No wonder they say that to believe in Jesus you have to have your brain removed first!
Actions speak louder than words!
Posted by: Concerned | September 6, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
CA Susan
If you read another article on this web site, you will note that a man who murdered 6 people in Washington also said he was “following God’s plan.” How do we know he wasn’t? Because in the end we decide in our OWN hearts what is right, not what the preacher, or the murderer, or the Governor of Alaska says is “God’s plan.”
Posted by: jock59801 | September 6, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
dan – I am one of many that have strong faith. My Pastor talked of Sarah Palin long before she teamed up with John McCain. My mental health took a turn for the better since she joined the ticket.
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
CA Susan
On second thought, I have decided you must be pulling our leg. No one can be THAT much of a caricature of a religious fanatic unless you are doing it on purpose.
Posted by: jock59801 | September 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
jock59801 – Satin has tricks and your argument is one of them.
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Every election I vote on only Religion: which candidate honors God more and lives the life of a true christian.
This year I’m voting Obama.
Obama is truly concerned about the less fortunate, the poor, the homeless, and those without health insurance. McCain seems to be interested only in giving more tax cuts to the rich and leading the military into more war. In fact, he has admitted he doesn’t know anything about the economy. He is going to continue Bush’s policies of making the economic inequality in this country greater and greater until we are back to the victorian age of a few royalty and everyone else is starving.
Posted by: Joan S | September 6, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am
ALAS
America is going down the tubes
you should enjoy the ride
this is as good as its gets
this is “country first ”
God bless our bombs there
falling on us
Blessings — bobknab
Posted by: bobknab | September 6, 2008, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Susan,
Now hold on one minute. Don’t start talking trash about SATIN! I LOVE satin. I have some very fond memories of satin. I WILL admit that cotton/percale probably is better for every day use, but satin is always better for those SPECIAL times (such as birthdays, anniversaries, etc.) Hell, my FISRT time was on SATIN!!
Posted by: truth seeker | September 6, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am
CA Susan
On second thought, I have decided you must be pulling our leg. No one can be THAT much of a caricature of a religious fanatic unless you are doing it on purpose. Posted by: jock59801
________________________________________
jock59801 – LOL – you’re right. You wouldn’t believe how many of my relatives believe EVERYTHING I posted. They are absolutely NUTS. This Palin woman has the Republican “base” religious fanatics all fired up. If Democrats don’t respond in kind and get fired up to defeat these morons we can kiss civil liberties goodbye. Obama/Biden 08’
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Joan S – Thank you. It’s nice to see a Christian that truly considers the issues. You don’t know how much better that makes me feel.
Posted by: CA Susan | September 6, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Diebold has already chosen the next President!!! How to Hack a Diebold Voting Machine Aug 1, 2006 …
Posted by: Dave | September 6, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
truth seeker,
Obviously she meant to say Santa and mis-spelled it satin.
I love satin too! But my first time was on vinyl in the back seat of my mom’s chevy…
LOLOL
Posted by: LOL | September 6, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
One thing is for certain just as it has been these past 8 years, there will be change. The real question is, will there be any hope to accompany that change?
So far, I see none and I expect that there will be none for at least the next 4 years regardless of which party wins!
Posted by: Concerned | September 6, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 06 Sep 2008 at 06:09:50 PM GMT is:
$ 9 , 6 7 1 , 7 4 8 , 2 2 2 , 5 0 7 . 0 4
the estimated population of the United States is 304,679,189
so each citizen’s share of this debt is $31,744.04.
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.93 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
4 more of McSAME or a chance for change?
OBAMA 08!
Posted by: Thistles | September 6, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Bush will go down as THE BEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
He kept the country safe for left wing whackos to post mindless drivel on a public board.
We need CHANGE. That’s why Obammy chose a VP with 34 years in Washington.
Hopefully when Obammy gets in he will be “Present” more than 140 times.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 6, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am
This is not the united states of Obama or that of McCain. It is The United States of America. And, the United States of America has a common enemy:terorists. Obama or McCain will do the job. After the voting fever, whoever becomes comander-in-chief will be for all Americans!
Posted by: Olman | September 6, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
If Mc Cain is like Bush, then it must be said that Obama is like the Peanut Farmer Jimmy Carter who didn’t know a hell of beans about Foreign Policy and for that matter allowed Cuban immigrants into South Florida without any game plan. And, riots broke out on the streets and crime tripled in South Florida. Americans were told that WE had to speak English. Now look at South Florida… the new CUBA. This is something Obama would do. Hands down. Additionally, Clinton KNEW Osama Bin Laden was a threat to our country and ignored these threats while closing down military bases and cutting funding for our Military. Sound sjust like Obama. Ignore the threats YEARS, and then let someone else take the fall for it. Bush was in office for 9 months when we were attacked. I don’t agree with the strategy of the war, but I aso don’t believe for a minute that Clinton and the Democrats were not warned time and time again from the terrorists. Actually, I believe this is proven that Osama had been a theat way before Bush took office. Get the SHI# out of your own eyes before you start judging others. Additionally, Mc Cain is not Bush. If he is then Obama is the Paanut Farmer and the pedaphile.
Posted by: Michelle | September 6, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Wow, Michelle, there are too many lines in your writing that look slanderous. What you could have against Carter who admittedly had 4 years of not getting much accomplished because he had a Republican Congress who blocked him. Give good old Jimmy credit for seeing the problem our dependence on oil who be in the future, for which he set aside millions for research into alternative fuels. Unfortunately the next president, a Republican promptly stripped the money away from the program. Imagine how far we would be now, to the point we wouldn’t need any foreign oil!
On your other topic, Bush not only was in office for 9 months he completely ignored warnings from our own CIA that Bin Laden intended to attack within the U.S., he also ignored Clinton and his people who briefed him extensively on the way out the door that the biggest danger was from Bin Laden. It was documented by our own government when they investigated the whole mess.
On the subject of this article, Bush did mislead the public about the danger to our country posed by Iraq. He and Cheney and Rice repeatedly stated in speeches that Iraq had WMD, which they only had the flimsiest of evidence for and had a lot of stronger evidence that Iraq had no WMD. My daughter was home sick while we watched Colin Powell make his presentation to the U.N. and she thought the evidence was too weak to be believable. And she was only 9 years old! Read our own government’s report on the subject, we were duped into going into the Iraq War by the Bush administration. It has cost us billions of dollars, thousands of our soldier’s lives, thousands more of our brave men and women permanently wounded, and an estimated 80,000 innocent Iraq citizens killed or seriously wounded and millions of them displaced.
We need an intelligent leader like Obama to extricate us from this mess, try to heal the wounds this war has cost us in international goodwill and in the eyes of Arab people around the world, lead the fight to give our wounded veterans all the help they need, not to mention Obama’s great plans for improving our economy.
Posted by: Lydia | September 6, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
We cannot believe what Bush says, but can we believe what Woodward says?
The Bob Woodward Story, Part I,
or How to Make a Sharp U-Turn
Two young reporters, like all their kind,
yearned to escape their daily grind.
Keen they were, enthusiastic,
and prayed they’d clinch that scoop fantastic.
Little did they dream that fate
would lay before them Watergate,
and all the President’s men’s skullduggery
best described perhaps as thuggery.
Bob typified the dogged sleuth
who’d dig ‘til he unveiled the truth.
Investigation was his strength;
for a story he’d go any length.
He’d probe the White House fabrications,
delve into Nixon’s aberrations,
uncover every lie or prevarication
and expose a rotten administration.
So Bob and fellow newsman Carl
vowed Tricky Dicky to ensnarl.
Lucky for them a mole appeared
with a modus best described as weird.
He’d meet with Bob in a garage under ground
where his whispers did not make a sound.
He earned the nickname of Deep Throat
and he gave our Sherlock cause to gloat.
Bob and Carl gained widespread admiration
for what they did to save the nation.
They exemplified steadfast persistence
as they wore down editor Ben’s resistance.
So President Nixon was thrown out –
a mighty triumph without a doubt.
A task not easy to repeat
on a humble newsman’s normal beat.
New fields of effort they had to find
and leave their news desks far behind.
Carl’s modest ways stayed as of yore
while Bob’s huge ego was now a bore.
To young journalists he was quite the hero,
a role he took to like De Niro.
A real colossus he became,
a legend now of worldwide fame.
Made managing editor at the Post
he seemed to vanish like a ghost.
Now his by-line seldom would appear
and co-workers soon began to sneer.
They asked wherever could he be found
and why he was never seen around.
Eager hacks set out to trace him
and it did not take them long to place him.
He was seen as he left in a rush
from an office occupied by Bush.
The guy who hated presidents’ men
had now become just one of them.
The White House was in disrepair
as leaks oozed out from everywhere.
All around were phone call buggers
when what they needed were good pluggers.
George W. considered him a chum
and how could poor Robert not succumb?
He was handed info cherry-picked
and it dawned not on him he’d been tricked.
He played his cards close to his chest
and his editor did not keep abreast,
He was gathering all that he could muster
for inclusion in his next blockbuster.
He had once reported all the news
but now felt he could pick and choose.
He would decide which well-cooked brownie
to feed to editor Len Downie.
He appeared with awe-struck Larry King
who allowed him his own praise to sing.
His methods, once investigative,
had now become accommodative.
When asked if he felt any blame
for keeping mum on Valerie Plame
he denigrated the prosecutor
though some others called him a straight shooter.
There are many who have grown quite leery
as every word of his they query.
Why some still pay to hear him lecture
is only open to conjecture.
He no longer can be called a model
when all he says is now just twaddle.
But remember this, you who would berate him.
Bob’s still a reporter, though now verbatim.
The Bob Woodward Story, Part II,
or Bob’s State of Denial
Quick, finish dinner! At the TV we must look
to hear Woodward plug his latest book.
It’s easy to learn Bob’s point of view
for he’s on the networks, and on cable too,
As we wait for his findings to be revealed
we hope that nothing will be concealed.
Will he throw any light on that odd love affair
between George Bush and Tony Blair?
When he sits face to face with 60 Minute’s Mike
it’s awesome how they are so alike.
It’s hard to decide whose demeanour is sternest
as they prepare to discuss the book in earnest
No levity here, no how are the folks?
But we are all aware it’s no time for jokes.
Have such austere expressions been seen before?
Indeed they have, on Mount Rushmore.
So we anxiously wait and with bated breath
for Bob’s disclosures, we hope in depth.
What will he tell us? What can we expect to learn?
What inside stories that might cause concern?
He addresses Wallace in ponderous tones
as on and on and on he drones
with that steady and unblinking gaze
and then pauses for Mike his words to praise.
As he gives all his phrases the self-same stress
it‘s not easy their importance for us to guess.
Could anyone ever consider terrific
a delivery best called soporific?
Once he decided his reporting role to abdicate,
Was when Woodward began to pontificate.
Now, should he find things get too hot at home,
he could always hop on a plane to Rome.
Newsweek says he knows how to excavate
but that claim leaves room for much debate.
We recall how he lauded Bush’s “moral determination”
leaving none in doubt of his open admiration.
But wait! What is reaching my disbelieving ears?
The sound of Bob as he again changes gears?
Can he really be saying that his erstwhile cronies
Are nothing more than a bunch of phonies?
He swears that Bush has been known to lie,
and says things in Iraq have gone awry.
So it’s obvious that he’s now jumping ship
and has learned how to do a pancake flip.
We’re mesmerised by his asseverations
and dumbstruck at his aberrations.
Is he telling us that he has seen the light
in the book that he took two years to write?
Alas! What he serves us is reheated hash
when what we expected was a hot news flash.
So what may we get when the Post’s straight shooter
again hits the keys of his laptop computer?
Will he tell us that tomorrow the sun will rise?
That Polaris is seen in Northern skies?
That Cheney’s is not the steadiest hand
when he picks up a gun while he’s still half canned?
Will he discover that Halliburton steals,
charging millions for non-existent meals?
Will he say Condi continues with her to’s and fro’s
the reason for which God only knows?
Will he warn us the CIA makes mistakes?
Or tell us Laura is good at baking cakes?
Will he say the Intelligence Service we cannot trust
or drop another such nugget to leave us nonplussed?
There is one question I feel I have to ask
and hope that I’ll not be taken to task.
While Rummy’s stuff may happen, or perhaps may not,
for how much longer must we endure Bob’s tommy rot?
As I wondered what became of the Bob I once admired,
and, like many, whose footsteps to follow had aspired,
I realized I’d overlooked a significant factor,
That the Bob I was thinking of — is Redford, the actor!
Posted by: Phil Linehan | September 6, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Have you considered therapy, Michelle?
Posted by: richard b | September 6, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Wow now I understand why some of us still want more of the same. Let’s see you’d rather elect a 72 year old version of the same administration along with his inexperience joke as a VP, you’d rather endure 4 more years of the same instead of giving a chance to a Harvard graduate, intelligent compelling fellow, just because he’s black. I swear most of you would be voting for Obama in November had he been a white man. some of you would rather die than to have a black man as your president. The good news is you did not fool America with your all white convention, your all white music and your all white jokes and your all white issues. Who do you think you are fooling? Country first my A….
Posted by: yoye777 | September 6, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
(“We voted for Obama as our senator. He said he would give us Change. Instead he used our change to pay for his presidential campaign”)
This really made me laugh, Samantha. But isn’t this what he has been taught, ‘…whatever stated in the past, doesn’t count, because you just changed your mind’ God bless us. and God bless the USA!!!!
Posted by: estee | September 6, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I have to say I agree with yoye. The dark secret factor in this election cycle is Obama is black. Rarely have statements gotten more outrageous in a campaign. If he were white it would be the Camelot thing all over. Because he’s black he’s Obama Hussein, he’s not a citizen, if he visits the troops he’s out for publicity, if he doesn’t it’s because he doesn’t care: he can’t win because he’s black and racism isn’t about being fair. Of course, not everyone who favors McCain is racist but there is that dark underbelly of the right. McCain ends up ranking 894th out of his class of 899 and Obama is stellar at Harvard. The argument here appears to be seniority trumps brilliance.
Or Obama is elitist. What dishonesty! These same people will lie, cheat and steal to get their kid an advantage in attending an Ivy League school but since Obama did it, he’s elitist. McCain owns 7 or more homes but there’s nothing elitist or out of the ordinary about that!
Posted by: richard b | September 6, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
(“…instead of giving a chance to a Harvard graduate, intelligent compelling fellow, just because he’s black. I swear most of you would be voting for Obama in November had he been a white man)
Give me Clarence Thomas, M. L. King, Ms. Rise, and I’ll vote in a NY minute!!!
Posted by: estee | September 6, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
NEWSFLASH! THIS JUST IN:
McCAIN IS ACCUSED OF THEFT!
Apparently still reeling from being caught steeling no less than 12,000 US flags from the Democrats in an overnight raid recently, now authorities are revealing more theft complaints involving McCain and his personal entourage.
As if steeling 12,000 flags and blaming it on local Boy Scouts wasn’t enough, McCain now stands accused of steeling a copy of Gideon’s bible from a hotel in Minneapolis during his stay there for the convention earlier this week.
Hotel employees gave a list of several items missing from the Hotel after McCain stayed there, including the Bible. Other missing items included three cocktail glasses, an ice bucket, several bars of soap, three rolls of toilet paper and those tiny little ketchup and mustard bottles.
Boy Scouts den mothers also expressed their dismay given the recent circumstances surround the wild accusations that somehow Boy Scouts were wandering the Invesco Arena area during the late hours after the DNC Convention and had stumbled upon 12,000 US flags, which they were then alleged to have stolen and having fenced in Minneapolis to the RNC. “I am shocked” said one mother. “Little Jimmy is in by sunset in tucked in by 8:30 every night, including weekends”.
“These Bibles are no longer free to steal” said the Hotel manager anonymously for fear of scurrilous reprisals by Republican fanatics. “It clearly states on the inside cover that you have to send away now for a free copy of the Gideon’s Bible” exclaimed the Hotel manager.
“You can’t just go willy-nilly taking things as if you own the world” the manager added. “I hear he was illegally downloading music off the internet last month to use in his TV commercials to bash the Democrats.”
Apparently McCain has long suffered from a rare disorder called “Hotel Kleptomania” stemming all the way back to his days in the Hanoi Hilton, where staff still insist he would take spoons, which have not been accounted for to this day. McCain still holds a grudge against the Hiltons, recently implicating young Paris Hilton in one of his regular tirades about Barack Obama, his staunch Democratic rival for the presidency.
The Hiltons were not available for comment, but a spokesperson for the Hotel chain said that McCain has been blacklisted from staying at their hotels since the early 70s due to missing items whenever he would stay at one of their hotels.
This is just one more blow to the McCain camp, still reeling from theft accusations including stealing Barack Obama’s political campaign theme and message as well, a message of change and reform. “We knew he had taken the message”, as did several witnesses who spotted McCain, Washington insider and veteran politician for a quarter century, spouting the term change and reform where several members of the American public were gathered.
One witness said he knew McCain had stolen Obama’s message when he heard McCain having tremendous difficulty pronouncing the word “change”. “It sounded so strange coming from Mr. McCain that you could readily see he was unfamiliar with the concept or how to pronounce the word” said one eye witness. A local panhandler handed McCain a dollar, thinking McCain was begging for a hand out. “I just felt sorry for the guy” said the homeless man, he kept saying “change”.
Mr. Obama stated that “This is a sad day for all Americans” and lamented that McCain really had no message or content of his own to use for his campaign. Mr. Obama volunteered to donate his political message and theme to McCain just as soon as he was finished with them, after November 6th.
Democratic supporters feeling bad for poor McCain have started a campaign and are mailing McCain their loose change.
Posted by: THIS JUST IN | September 6, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
wait…where are those WMDs that were the reason we went into Iraq??? Oh yeah…they dont exist. another lie by Bush. I am embarrassed for the people who act like that does not matter. if you really cared about the soldiers you’d be outraged by this president too.
Posted by: Chris Hall | September 7, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
by the way…2 family members who are deployed to Iraq through July 2009 regardless of who wins the election. And another, a Marine, is in Kuwait before being deployed to Afghanistan so dont act like my opinion is just ‘liberal bias’.
Posted by: Chris Hall | September 7, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am
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ChrisHall, while you were out slopping your hogs a few months ago, Iraq was shipping 50,000 Tons of YELLOWCAKE to Canada. Saddam didn’t have that stuff to make CornBread!!!! OH NO, it’s kinda, sorta, maybee, could be —- WMD’S!!?!?!?!?!!?
Take off your Tin Foil hat and tell us just where Bush LIED. Take your time, now.
THIS president kept even morons like you safe, against my better wishes. God and President Bush takes care of little fishes and idiots.
Palin 08
Posted by: LarryMan | September 7, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am
What parallel universe are you people in? Bush stated Mission Accomplished back in 2003 – the war was over then.
Posted by: AM 08 | September 7, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Perhaps the White House should simply respond by posting
http://writingfrontier.com/2008/07/12/all-the-dead-presidents-men/
I’m sure your readers would get a kick out of that.
Enjoy.
Posted by: WritingFrontier | September 7, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
re; BenStraub; Your comments about Obama, his record in office, his beliefs, his works are completely wrong. He worked after grad. from Harvard, to come to Chicago, work for 12,000$ yr and an old car. He helped poor areas provide care and education for under priviledged. He did much good there. As for the claim he did not serve his country? You know not what you speak. He graduated HS 1979. There was no war at that time, he signed up as req. by law. Let’s look at the wingnut icons. Limbaugh= butt boil(?). Cheney = better things to do (5x)? Rove= bad knee? Bush= hide out in Guard, spend time in bars, wreck planes get out of jail card free/with coverup?
No one in Bush WH has had mil. serv. nor their kids.
Sarah…has charges aimed at her, she owes US 32Mill that she kept for the Bridge that she claims she did not want, but lobbyed for. (Theft)? Religious fanatic, secessionist(?) thought we decided that long ago? If you want to enjoy Mc’s military record, go to any site with McCain/plane crash; see how many he crashed and his part in Forrestall fire. Remember Keating Five? Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas. He is in the can with lobbyists up tohis neck. Ujnless you are in the top 10% and a fascist, don’t vote for the GOP ticket, anywhere . Looking forward to a start ona new world, with faith fairness, education, freedom for all. I’m fede up with the last 28 years fo PNAC lies and underhanded works with enemies to OUR detriment. Look it up. Read Get Smarter. Then vote!!
Posted by: georgia timberlake | September 7, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Amazing that we bring up John McCain’s rank in his class and compare it to Barack Obama’s education.
Having attended one of the service academies, I can assure you that the two educations are not the same.
Typically, the service academies in McCain’s day told you what to take with little or no exception to the rule. I completed 169 semester(not quarter) hours in 4 years with no summer school. That is over 21 hours per semester. McCain went through when the academies were more stingent.
A friend of mine was the Valedictorian of his high school class and finished near the bottom of his class at the service academy. When asked why, he said “I thought I was smart until I met the other 1300 valedictorians that showed up as my classmates.”
The classes were heavy math, science and engineering. On top of that, his class rank also reflected his “rebel outlook” and the many demerits he accumulated.
So, to say Obama was a better student (implied smarter) than McCain based on grades and standing from their respective institutions is probably a very faulty comparison.
Posted by: Scott Richburg | September 7, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Usually, the more words in a “comment”, the dumber the author.
Posted by: Robert Johnson | September 7, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm