All Hands on Deck in Economic Crisis: Biden Says Obama Offers Steady Hand, McCain an Uncertain One
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden wrapped up his Show-Me State whirlwind tour by stating that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill, offers "steady hands" and "the most respected economic team of advisers ever" to lead the nation past its current financial crisis, while Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., offers only "an uncertain hand" and "the same economic advisers that got us into this place."
"The tools to deal with this problem are available to us," Biden said at Jordan Valley Park in Springfield, his fourth and final Missouri event in the last 24 hours. "It’s within our capacity to deal with these problems, particularly this economic crisis, but here’s the question for the American people. It’s simple and straightforward. Into whose hands are they gonna place these tools? Into whose hands are they gonna place these tools? The steady hands of Barack Obama backed up by the finest pool of advisers this country has ever seen? Or, or, what I think is fair to say, you’ve observed the uncertain hand of a McCain administration, backed up by some of the very same economic advisers who got us into this place in the first place."
Biden, D-Del., who noted that he has "never seen people as apprehensive and some literally as fearful as where we are today," said that only a leader with "a steady hand" can help the country recover from this economic crash.
"We’ve been through tough times before, ladies and gentlemen, and we’ve emerged from those tough times in our history stronger than before we went into those tough times. And we’ve done this, we’ve done this when we’ve done it because we’ve had leaders, leaders who have had a steady hand, sound ideas to get our country back on track."
The six-term senator recalled a comment he made to President Bush about the importance of leadership in times of crisis.
"President Bush once said to me in the Oval Office, he said "Well, at least I’m leading". On a different matter. And I said "Mr. President, look behind you, I don’t see anybody following you." So folks, you can’t lead if people do not follow. And Barack Obama is a leader."
"Don’t think for a moment, folks, that we cannot get ourselves out of this problem," Biden reassured Show-Me State supporters. "We have done it time and time again. We know how to get this job done, and we’re gonna get through, we’re gonna get through and turn the country around."
While Biden had harsh words for McCain on the economy, his remarks about the Republican’s running mate Gov. Sarah Palin bordered on condescending.
"She’s kind of, she’s kind of neat, isn’t she?" Biden asked the audience, who responded with scattered boos.
"We had a debate, I think it was a debate," the Delaware lawmaker continued. "And, at one point, at one point she turned to me and said "Well, I was only in second grade when Sen. Biden was elected to the United States Senate." What I refrained from saying was the last time, you were in sixth grade the last time John McCain had a good idea. You know look, the only new idea John’s come up with in this campaign is a very, very bad idea: the one he announced to spend $300 billion of your money to continue to bail out the banks and the people who took the risk."
But Gov. Palin didn’t make that comment during the St. Louis debate, but rather at a September 29 rally in Columbus, Ohio.
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Oh wait where are all the obama supporters now saying if you have the answers lets have them.If obama has the greatest economic advisers in the country.Why have they not fixed the problems or weighed in on them??
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I don’t think Biden is perfect in the way he speaks, but I do think his heart is in the right place when it comes to fighting for everyday Americans.
My ballot is in the box already. That envelope will help bring Obama and Biden one step closer to an Ohio victory!
Posted by: Reason | October 10, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
For you die-hard supporters for His Nothingness. The market crash is a vivid warning of what you will see under a Zero-bama administration.
Zero-bama pushed hard to pass a so-called economic stimulus program, basically giving some of you up to $700 bucks, to “save” the economy. On the contrary, HRC wanted a targeted economic plan aimed at banking and mortgage crisis – this was 12 months ago! Yet, the Congress, headed by his House Mommy and Senate Daddy wanting to show their support and to pick an Affirmative Action candi, went along, ignoring the real crisis and a viable solution at that time, again 1 freeking year ago.
Now, this $700 did nothing, as characteristic to His Nothingness, to the economy; actually it led to the down-slide of more than 40%!!!! in the market. On top of this, this phony still wants to give you $1000 to (1) buy your vote if you vote for him, and (2) boost and rescue the economy if you elect him.
This is a serious judgment problem. Has he really ever made a good judgment call when he has the responsibility of doing something????
Are you blind supporters really as moronic as this phony is!
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
John McCain is like a rat backed into a corner, he is blustering, clawing, hissing – really scary – what is next?. ………
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/10/john-mccain-is-dangerous/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 10, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
republicans keep crying all your tears only make us stronger
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 10, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
I suppose you don’t think the comments Palin has made not only about Biden, but about Obama have been condescending? If Palin had the Harvard Law degree and were treated with such disdain by the Obama campaign, the uproar would be unimaginable. Palin showed such class, she trashed Biden as he was away from the campaign to attend his mother-in-laws funeral. I think Larry King’s show last night with Kathleen Parker and the daughter of former Senator Paul Laxault showed a much more mainstream side of the Republican Party. Michelle Laxault said that Wm Buckley and Ronald Reagan would be horrified at what the party has become in this election – questioning patriotism, calling someone a traitor, allowing the rhetoric at their campaign rallies to spew racist hatred and incindiary behavior. She said that was not the Republican party she had been raised in. I can’t understand how it is pertinent to make these inconsequential asides as what is at the end of Jake’s blog, when Rome is burning and we all know that McCain’s campaign is only about distraction at this point in his desperate campaign. McCain is an angry, erratic, out of touch politician whose sole focus is not the economy or the American people. It is solely about putting McCain in the White House. The voters see right through this.
Posted by: winter99 | October 10, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?…..think about it.
Would the country’s collective point of view be different?
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including
a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while
he was still married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Se nators accused of corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
disc ipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would b e as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qua lities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in
another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Acade my – Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.
Posted by: richardcranium1 | October 10, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Did anyone follow up with the obvious question-Then why is Obama and his team do something NOW instead of letting the market crash?
Oh, That Media
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Why Obama hasn’t fixed the economy? One President at a time. The democrats will fix the economy before Republicans find weapons of mass destruction or even find Bin Laden.
Hey dO the anwser is yes. Better than what you can offer.
For you die-hard supporters for His Nothingness. The market crash is a vivid warning of what you will see under a Zero-bama administration.
But this a Republican administration, not Obama’s, yet.
Posted by: dog shooter | October 10, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
please tell me what john mccain has done this economic crisis besides run around like a chicken with his head cut off
when he suspended his campaign to save the economy and get the bailout finished, and then it didnt work he said it was obamas fault and he gave all these reasons as to why it blew up and it was the dems fault
today the campaign is saying they meant to blow it up
so what is it
i mean its like the troopergate investigation, how many different things did palin say she fired wooten for?
i mean it changes week to week.. and the same can be seen with the financial crisis.
Mccain camp keeps changing their story.
Suddenly they went there to blow up the bailout deal? taht sure wasnt what we all saw happening, and it is backed up by three days of mccain trying to figure out a way to make himself not look like a gimmick.
and this is just today… the stories constantly change with these people
and still no talk about what they woudl do with the economy or hell even any talk about the economy whatsoever
they want to talk about obamas associations but not their own
its just pathetic
mccain was suppose to be an honorable man and his campaign has turned into a sleaze fest
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 10, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
geevill besides advice what policy could the inact ? what could the do without the power to enforce or push ahead an agenda untill they are in office and can appoint some of these people to post and what could they say even if good and would work that YOU , Mccain/Palin and others would just say that’ll never work . So we’ll have to wait till the Obama admin. takes office in Jan. to get things done we will then have a MAJORITY that can do things not this small one that makes it look like the dems are in charge you know the kind that the GOP had the previous 6 yrs and did nothing but tax breaks for the wealthy , NCLB that they never funded but you had to comply with oh but they gave us the war , deregulation,and the mes we’re in right now
Posted by: richardcranium1 | October 10, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
– they want to talk about obamas associations but not their own
– its just pathetic
It really is.. he is doing what Bush did to him back in 2000.. and back then, McCain said:
“I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
McCain truly has no vision and everytime he articulates “Maverick”, I think of those rust-buckets Ford made back in the 70′s.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
It is about lying and how Obama will continue to do what he has his whole political career nothing and lie
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Announcer: Who is Barack Obama? A man with “a political baptism performed at warp speed.” Vast ambition.
After college, he moved to Chicago. Became a community organizer. There, Obama met Madeleine Talbot, part of the Chicago branch of ACORN. He was so impressive that he was asked to train the ACORN staff.
What did ACORN in Chicago engage in? Bullying banks. Intimidation tactics. Disruption of business. ACORN forced banks to issue risky home loans. The same types of loans that caused the financial crisis we’re in today.
No wonder Obama’s campaign is trying to distance him from the group, saying, “Barack Obama Never Organized with ACORN.” But Obama’s ties to ACORN run long and deep. He taught classes for ACORN. They even endorsed him for President.
But now ACORN is in trouble.
Reporter: There are at least 11 investigations across the country involving thousands of potentially fraudulent ACORN forms.
Announcer: Massive voter fraud. And the Obama campaign paid more than $800,000 to an ACORN front for get out the vote efforts.
Pressuring banks to issue risky loans. Nationwide voter fraud.
Barack Obama. Bad judgment. Blind ambition. Too risky for America.
Posted by: Children of the ACORN | October 10, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
“geevill besides advice what policy could the inact ? what could the do without the power to enforce or push ahead an agenda untill they are in office and can appoint some of these people to post”
No answers. No clues. Just elect Obama so he can appoint leftist liberals and socialist. Obama loves the living wage idea. Complete welfare package.
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Where are these “steady hands and the most respected economic team of advisers ever” to lead the nation past its current financial crisis”?
Weon’t see anything now except promise.
Posted by: beth | October 10, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Has obama gotten any of the oil companies to give every citizen of illinois 1200 dollars????
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Obama’s economic advisors are the same as Bill Clinton 92′ and 96′.
I suggest Republicans start bracing themselves for an Obama win.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 10, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
Obama’s economic advisors are the same as Bill Clinton 92′ and 96′.
I suggest Republicans start bracing themselves for an Obama win.
Posted by: Vanessa | Oct 10, 2008 3:59:57 PM
You mean the ones who advised him to give fannie and freddie less regulation and the ones who allowed him to deregulate the glass steagall act??
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING DOWN yaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no more repukes!
Posted by: angie | October 10, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
– Has obama gotten any of the oil companies to give every citizen of illinois 1200 dollars???? –
Something that McCain has stated over and over again he will not do. He will not enact windfall taxes. He is for the wealthy and big corporates and his tax policy is a continuation of what we have had for the last 8 years.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
– You mean the ones who advised him to give fannie and freddie less regulation and the ones who allowed him to deregulate the glass steagall act?? –
No, that would be primarly Phil Gramm, McCains advisor. And it was eventually passed in a non-partison fashion in Congress so it could not be vetoed.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 4:06:03 Pm
Uhm check the facts yes gramm pushed it but clinton had the power to veto it!!!
What nothing about fannie and freddie????
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
The bill that ultimately repealed the [Glass Steagal Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (R-TX) and in the House of Representatives by James Leach (R-IA) in 1999. The bills were passed by a 54-44 vote along party lines with Republican support in the Senate and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives. Nov 4, 1999: After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bipartisan bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. Without forcing a veto vote, this bipartisan, VETO PROOF legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
I cannot believe Cindy McCain would say this today:
she called Sen. Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign “the dirtiest campaign in American history.”
after the way her husbands campaign has been pounding the airwaves with untrue,demaning ads. The McCain campaign pledged a clean cmapaign, and they started the negative ads.
Posted by: formerhillary | October 10, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Apparently Johnny can’t keep his temper under control – especially when he is out gambling at a casino. See:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-09/john-mccain-shooting-craps-pissed-off/
So much for character. So much for family values. So much for integrity. If anyone wants this old dude McCain running the economy or the country, God Save America!
Posted by: Jane Sixpack | October 10, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Not all African American in this country believe Obama is Messiah
Posted by: Ken Coleman | October 10, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
The FM’s? You mean S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005; which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole.
The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Anyone who thinks the repeal of Glass-Steagall was forced on an unwilling Bill Clinton need only read Rubin’s testimony. A year later Sandy Weill set in motion the forces that would finally end Glass-Steagall.
Weill proposed the most audacious financial merger of in American history: he would merge one of the largest insurance companies (Travelers), one of the largest investment banks (Salomon Smith Barney), and the largest commercial banks (Citibank) in America. The problem was the merger was illegal in terms of Glass-Steagall. Independent Community Bankers of America CEO Kenneth Guenther captured the audacity of the deal
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 10, 2008 4:08:51 PM
Fact is, the economy was in a BOOM during the Clinton years. 20+ million new jobs. 500 billion+ surplus. That’s the Obama’s economic advisors.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 10, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
The FM’s? You mean S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005; which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole.
The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby.
What is this????
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko, and I approve this message.
Posted by: Rezko | October 10, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Claim: McCain championed legislation that would have prevented the current financal meltdown and the Democrats killed it
Fact: False/Misleading
In his September 19th speach in Arlington, VA., Sen. McCain states:
“Two years ago, I called for reform of this corruption at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress did nothing. Senator Obama did nothing, and actually profited from this system of abuse and scandal”
What he is referring to is a Senate bill (S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005) which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole. It was not until after a 2006 Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Report to Congress outlining problems with the two organizations that Sen. McCain decided to add his name to the bill as a co-sponsor. The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby. The statement about Congress and Sen. Obama doing nothing is true, but misleading, since there was nothing that they could have done until the bill came to the floor of the Senate, which it never did.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 10, 2008 4:08:51 PM
Fact is, the economy was in a BOOM during the Clinton years. 20+ million new jobs. 500 billion+ surplus. That’s the Obama’s economic advisors.
Posted by: Vanessa | Oct 10, 2008 4:17:16 Pm
When was the 10th worst stock market crash in history?????
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
How many voters turned against Bush after it was too late?
How many will no longer support Obama after he gets elected?
Do we really have time to try him out on our time and money?
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Would you put your money in McCains hands to invest: for deregualtion; for investing SS in stock market; for taxing health benefits; calls us “My fellow prisoners”; changes his policy everyday….
Wow, he is a sure thing,huh?
YOU BETCHA………
Posted by: militarymom | October 10, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Claim: McCain championed legislation that would have prevented the current financal meltdown and the Democrats killed it
Fact: False/Misleading
In his September 19th speach in Arlington, VA., Sen. McCain states:
“Two years ago, I called for reform of this corruption at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress did nothing. Senator Obama did nothing, and actually profited from this system of abuse and scandal”
What he is referring to is a Senate bill (S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005) which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole. It was not until after a 2006 Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Report to Congress outlining problems with the two organizations that Sen. McCain decided to add his name to the bill as a co-sponsor. The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby. The statement about Congress and Sen. Obama doing nothing is true, but misleading, since there was nothing that they could have done until the bill came to the floor of the Senate, which it never did.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 4:19:58 PM
How about Clinton lower the standards in 1995????
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Yeah, some people never learn, huh?
Posted by: YelloDog | October 10, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Rodany…do you want 4 more years of this crap?…that is what McCain is offering.
he thinks nothing is basically wrong….
Zeezzzzzzzzz
Posted by: formerhillary | October 10, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Real nice, Rezko. When all else fails, resort to hate language.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
His quote Bush leading could be applied to McCain. McCain is a leader with no following. I’ve believed for some time now that the vast majority of voters are either pro-Obama, anti-Bush\McCain\Palin, or anti-Obama. Vert few voters are really pro-McCain. That makes him a leader with no followers.
Posted by: indy_voter | October 10, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Blind ambition catchy with blind voters.
Posted by: Jay Erin | October 10, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
morons that don’t know that the glass steagall act was pushed through by Gramm… a deregulation expert…and although “bipartisan” it was overwhelmingly republican and veto proof so Clinton could not veto it.
If you do not know what it is…
because a bunch of morons are trying to put this all on fannie and freddie and the idea of getting more people in homes…which with just enough regulation in securities would have been a good goal economically and morally…
here is what gramm’s legislation said in so many words…
just to be clear who is to blame…
“The repeal enabled commercial lenders such as Citigroup, the largest U.S. bank by assets, to underwrite and trade instruments such as mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations and establish so-called structured investment vehicles, or SIVs, that bought those securities. [12] Citigroup played a major part in the repeal. Then called Citicorp, the company merged with Travelers Insurance company the year before using loopholes in Glass-Steagall that allowed for temporary exemptions. With lobbying led by Roger Levy, the “finance, insurance and real estate industries together are regularly the largest campaign contributors and biggest spenders on lobbying of all business sectors [in 1999]. They laid out more than $200 million for lobbying in 1998, according to the Center for Responsive Politics…” These industries succeeded in their two decades long effort to repeal the act.
It is the same beliefs that brough us Enron.
so anybody who wants to blame the massive reach of this on anything outside deregulation
is lying.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
The media is giving McCain a pass on his association with the US Council for World Freedom and its ties to ultra-right-wing death squads in central America. He should be held accountable.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
If McCain picked Biden as VP, then he would say ‘McCain offers a steady hand while Obama offers uncertain one.’
If Hillary won, and she picked Biden as VP, what would he say about Obama?
Politician.
Posted by: golfgirlusa | October 10, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Reddog, you do seem to have tunnel vision, I’ll give you that!
Care to explain how trickle down taxation works when history has shown it doesn’t?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 10, 2008 4:20:29 PM
I would rather a market crash then our nation in $10,000,000,000,000 in debt.
Clinton left our economy w/ a $500 billion surplus. 20 million new jobs.
Bush will leaves offices w/ $296 billion deficit w/ the worst economic situation since the great depression.
THAT’S WHY OBAMA’S LEADING IN EVERY POLLS.
Obama straight to the white house.
Posted by: Vanessa | October 10, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
My eyes widened after I saw how the Democrats pushed so hard for O’Bama over Hillary, so I had to find out why this was happening to her, and what I found out wasn’t pretty. O’Bama, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank are the nastiest thing to ever hit this country.
Posted by: Nicolas127 | October 10, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Touchy people these Obamanites, eh? Poke a little fun at their Messiah and off they go. Relax. Take a chill pill. It’s still a free country… freedom of speech and all that. Let’s not have the Dems repressing thoughts and ideas
Posted by: rallph | October 10, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
I’m with you Vanessa. I sure which I had the return on my investments that I had during the Clinton years. Eight years of Bush has left us in economic ruin.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Talk about racists! Those Obamas and their cult following are the worst. But worse of all I won’t vote for a drug addict who has gay sex in the back of a limo.
Posted by: pam | October 10, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Oh, I don’t know Nicholas. How about Larry “foot tapper” Craig, Mark “page boy” Foley, Phil “nation of whiners” Gramm, Carly “McCain couldn’t run a company” Fiorina, Sarah “I can see Russia” Palin
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Michelle Obama first lady……ROFL thats funny more like first charcter in the Planet of the Apes” NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, SHE DOES HAVE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO ZERA! BUT NOWHERE NEAR THE SCRUPLES! MICHELLE SHOULD BE BANISHED FROM THE USA.
Posted by: GORIILAS R US! | October 10, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Vanessa,
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago :
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high–14,000 +
5) American’s were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!…
But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes–we got ‘CHANGE’ all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increas e);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure, with no indication that the trend will reverse any time soon. In fact, many sub-prime ARMs are just getting to their “re-set” point…the carnage will continue.
6) THE DOW is probing another low~~ $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
7) Do we need to be reminded that the roots of the sub-prime debacle can be traced BACK to the Clinton Administration?
8) Do we need to be reminded that it was during the Carter and Clinton Administrations that we began to turn our backs on Israel?
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE…AND WE SURE GOT IT! …
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
What has Nancy Pelosi, Dodd, Schumer and Obama done for you?
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?
Posted by: Nicolas127 | October 10, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
ralllph
do you mean the “timothy Mcveigh”/ “joe Vogel” style rallies that Palin has been inciting?
is that what you mean by free speech
because you must not realize where our worst and most numerous cases of domestic terrorism come from…
the same cvalues that were on display at the palin rallies this week.
America should be disgusted.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
– But worse of all I won’t vote for a drug addict who has gay sex in the back of a limo. –
Good thing that McCains wife isn’t running for office then!
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
I get it now. It’s not about Obama.
You would vote anyone who opposes McCain.
Once an McCain opponent is found, THEN you start looking for reasons to support him (Obama in this case).
What did you know about Obama 2 or 3 years ago?
Posted by: Jay Erin | October 10, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Reddog, you do seem to have tunnel vision, I’ll give you that!
Care to explain how trickle down taxation works when history has shown it doesn’t?
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 4:26:18 PM
It is called capitalism it is how this country was founded.We need to stop blaming the goverment and take some pride in ourselves.By american products stop forcing our corporations to leave.Buy what you can afford.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
One would have to have the cerebral capacity of a cockroach to buy into Obama’s inspirational BS. The man has a resume that could be printed on a postage stamp and he thinks he’s qualified to be the leader of the free world. We already have an unqualified idiot in that job and sure as hell don’t need another one.
Posted by: ted | October 10, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
…and suddenly Michelle too has all what it takes to become a first lady.
Michelle/Barack ’08
Posted by: Jay Erin | October 10, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Nicholas
nice try…things started heading south on many early “flags”
that is why we ended up with a democratic congress
the mess was created from 2000 to 2006
the last 2 years has been all about “crate and barrel” clean up
they broke it…America bought it…
the dems are trying to figure out how to pay for it and put it back together…
it’s a lot easier to break things than it is to put humpty dumpty back together…
the last 2 years and the next 20 are the hangover from 200 to 2006
and anybody who tries to portray it differently is badly lying.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
once a muslim, always a muslim
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
just cannot see that stuttering, Curious George looking, Black militant in the wgite house. I am sure Jeremiah Wright would be hired to be his spiritual advisor. I will not pay reperations to some black man who was never a slave for something my great-great grandaddy did.
Don’t worry this will soon be over and Obama and his horrible angry wife will be history.
Guess what both Obama and Osama have in common?
They both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.
Posted by: sarah | October 10, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I’m with you Vanessa. I sure which I had the return on my investments that I had during the Clinton years. Eight years of Bush has left us in economic ruin.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 10, 2008 4:28:05 PM
I dont know if you know this the dow was at 14,000 a little more than a year ago up from 7500 when clintons was in office
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Michelle,
Pitbull with a spike collar…. lipstick doesn’t show!
Posted by: Nicolas127 | October 10, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Hussein, Hussein Hussein” the crowds will shout from the burning streets.
“Bring forth our New King.” Barry “Himself” The Chosen One. Praise be to the clean negro. Praise be to Allah. God Bless Bill Ayers for giving us our man. We love Bill Maher he’s funny. Our man is a smiling man you can trust a smiling face. “Hussein, Hussein, Hussein”
Posted by: HUSSEIN BLOBAMA | October 10, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
oh boy
seems Palin’s call for an army of Timothy mcVeighs/Joe Vogels is starting to work on the ten people supporting mccain on here.
ignorance just needs a match
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
GEVILL WRITES: Did anyone follow up with the obvious question-Then why is Obama and his team do something NOW instead of letting the market crash?
Oh, That Media
I Say, Oh McSame. How many times has McSame said he knows how to track down Bil Laden to defeat him, he knows how to do it. When he’s President (in his dreams) he said he will do it because he knows how. So Gevill, tell all of us, with THE most notorious murderer on the plant still on the loose, and McSame saying repeatedly he knows how to do it, why then hasn’t he accomplished this feat yet? Why hasn’t he told Patraeus how to find Bin Laden yet? McSame-Patraeus best buds, right? Not sure who’s more full of BS, you or McSame.
Posted by: Sandra Johanson | October 10, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
How many voters turned against Bush after it was too late?
How many will no longer support Obama after he gets elected?
Do we really have time to try him out on our time and money?
========================
So you think it’s better to continue with the same strategy that got us into this mess then. At least we know we’ll get screwed right?
And led by McSame and Parrot?
I think I’ll take the smart guys this time!
Posted by: Obama/Biden - the only Positive choice! | October 10, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
McCain = legendary temper
McCain = irrascible
McCain = de-regulation/regulation flip
McCain = against GI Bill
McCain = tax your health benefits
McCain = criminal pal Chas. Keating
McCain = cited for “poor judgment”
McCain = bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
McCain = wipe out N. Korea
McCain = voted no 7 times on vets health care
McCain = voted no on mandatory rest period for troops between deployment
McCain = 19 paid lobbyists for Freddie/Fannie on his campaign
McCain = missed 400+ votes in Senate
McCAin = voted 90% with Bush
McCain = voted no on safety equip. for Reserve troops
McCain = ready for war with Russia
McCain = voted 17 times in 4 years for deregulation
whew, I’m tired!
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Hey tell me how it was with Jimmy Carter in office times were good !!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
you can put lipstick on Michelle, but it’s still a GORILLA!
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Obama did mention something about his “first term”. Is he expecting a second term as well?
Would Obama Govt. even survive the first term?
Posted by: Joey | October 10, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Obama did mention something about his “first term”. Is he expecting a second term as well?
Would Obama Govt. even survive the first term?
Posted by: Joey | October 10, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
reddog
what we have learned in the past three weeks is that 14000 was built on nothing
these investment banks that backed mortgages at a rate of ten to one for the money they actually had.
it was built on the back of Gramm’s bill…
it was built on the backs of deregulation
you see that is what rampant deregulated speculation can do
just like Enron.
ugh
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
– George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine. –
Then you have a strange idea of economy. His first year he took a balanced budget and federal surplus and still managed to raise the deficit by $133 billion due to his tax cuts. By 2004, the unemployment rate rose from just under 4% to almost 6%. In 2003 and 2004 he set the record for the largest yearly jump in deficit spending.
And gas prices began to rise due to the Enron loophole written by Phil Gramm. The year it was enacted, natural gas prices, after maintaining flat prices for over 15 years, rose 320%.
Since Bush has been in office, he has vetoed 11 bills. Only one of those were when the Republicans had control of Congress. In 2008, Congress was finally able to push through legislation which, among other things, would have closed the Enron loophole. Bush vetoed it not once, but twice.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
let’s take real polls…. not Acorn/Ayers style….. is this what Obama is afraid…. the polls don’t show the truth, they only show those multiple registry’s?
Posted by: Nicolas127 | October 10, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
McCain = cheated on first wife after her disfigurement
McCain = in-laws tied to organized crime in AZ
McCain = wife stole drugs from charity
McCain = Keating Five
McCain = Crashed 7 planes
McCain = 154 lobbyists in his campaign
McCain = $214,000 from Chas. Keating
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | October 10, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
reddog
what we have learned in the past three weeks is that 14000 was built on nothing
these investment banks that backed mortgages at a rate of ten to one for the money they actually had.
it was built on the back of Gramm’s bill…
it was built on the backs of deregulation
you see that is what rampant deregulated speculation can do
just like Enron.
ugh
Posted by: dl | Oct 10, 2008 4:38:53 PM
MORTGAGES THAT FANNIE AND FREDDIE WERE HANDING OUT
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Notice that 80% of the Pub comments are simply childish insults.
That’s the “base”. That’s all they know. And that’s all they have left.
Hahahaha
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
Better get used to it!
Posted by: Obama/Biden - the only Positive choice! | October 10, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Senator Obama has not put forward one workable solution to our economic crises. In fact, his Democratic Party and their sub-prime legislation without safeguards or regulations is the reason for the chaos. And he wants to help by increasing taxes on dividends, capital gains and those high income people who start the businesses and hire the workers. His economic policies are backward from rational thinking. The overseas markets are blaming the USA, the Democrats and their sub-prime mortgage legislation for the world wide financial crises. Check it out on CNN International, London and other foreign news outlet.
Obama and his Democrats need to be taken to the wood shed and locked up.
Socialism is evil and wrong. The Republicans can be blamed for lots of thing but not this, the sub-prime mortgage debackle. His health care package will be very bad too. Obama needs to be truthful about the cause of this but he refuses and lies again and again. It will take five years at best for most families to recover to where they were on June l, 2008.
Posted by: Marla | October 10, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
– By american products stop forcing our corporations to leave. –
Isn’t that what McCain told autoworkers in Michigan? Only to find out that he has several foreign made vehicles which kind of upset them after he told them the he only buys American.. not to mention his stance of saving gas, yet drives a cadillac and also a F350 pickup.
Obama has a Ford hybrid.. at least he practices what he preaches :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Just remember what the polls looked like when Bush got elected.
Posted by: Joey | October 10, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
My friends, John McCain says he has all the answers to our woes. I guess he is just toying with us by telling us one thing one day and the next day something else, guess he will tell us what the real plan is if he wins the election. Come on my friend, John, tell us what your real plans are, we need to know now.!!
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | October 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I’m out, you Obama supporters make me sick! Allowing our Democracy go to pots….you’ll be sorry.
Posted by: Nicolas127 | October 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
MORTGAGES THAT FANNIE AND FREDDIE WERE HANDING OUT
——————
Yet another parrot
The SEC’s deregulation that allowed banks to lend at 40 to 1 instead of 12 to 1 led to the failure.
There would be no subprime loans if this deregulation hadn’t occured. The banks wouldn’t have had the money to loan.
But keep spewing the party line. Don’t let facts get in your way or anything.
Posted by: Milton Freedman | October 10, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Nicolas127,
False information.
After Bush and his Republican domination of Congress passed the Bush tax cuts… the unemployment rate went from 4.7 to 6.2
After Democratics won Congress in 2006, unemployment rate fell to 4.6
Then the biggest blunder occured. Bush and McCain invaded Iraq to later find Iraq has NO weapons of mass destruction.
And so… we are now losing in Afganistan. Our men and women fighting tour after tour in Iraq will deploy to Afganistan… some.
Without the Bush/McCain blunders… we would have saved BILLIONS from Iraq and could have possibly won the war in Afganistan.
Our economy would be in shape.
Thanks Bush/ McCain
Obama/Biden
It’s a landslide
Posted by: Vanessa | October 10, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
– Senator Obama has not put forward one workable solution to our economic crises. –
He absolutely has! His tax plan would inject immediate capital into the economy by giving larger breaks to working Americans instead of those earning over $100K, and the modestly increased taxes for the wealthy would increase government revenue. In addition, his health plan would save corporations an estimated $140 billion a year, which would inject even more capital into the system. On top of that, the increased number of currently uninsured Americans (estimated 47% compared to McCain at 7% at peak) would provide additional revenue to health care providers.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
– By american products stop forcing our corporations to leave. –
Isn’t that what McCain told autoworkers in Michigan? Only to find out that he has several foreign made vehicles which kind of upset them after he told them the he only buys American.. not to mention his stance of saving gas, yet drives a cadillac and also a F350 pickup.
Obama has a Ford hybrid.. at least he practices what he preaches :)
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 4:43:34 PM
It is what has gotten us to this point we dont manufacture much in this country .People who say they care about there fellow americans only care when it comes to there pocketbooks.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Socialism is evil and wrong
——————-
And yet McCain proposes $300 BILLION DOLLAR ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS TO BAIL OUT BANKS WITH BAD LOANS
I will not support that SOCIALIST McCain!
God, the irony is too funny!
Posted by: Who's a "socialist" again? | October 10, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
MORTGAGES THAT FANNIE AND FREDDIE WERE HANDING OUT
——————
Yet another parrot
The SEC’s deregulation that allowed banks to lend at 40 to 1 instead of 12 to 1 led to the failure.
There would be no subprime loans if this deregulation hadn’t occured. The banks wouldn’t have had the money to loan.
But keep spewing the party line. Don’t let facts get in your way or anything.
Posted by: Milton Freedman | Oct 10, 2008 4:45:38 PM
Fannie and freddie were the ones pushing I dont think you undersatnd how it works.
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
We might not need good answers and solutions.
When we like somebody we can’t really explain why.
And then we realize…
4 years to wait till vote can be straighten up…
But we’re already 4 years older.
Anyway…
Posted by: Sunny | October 10, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
dog shooter,
Are you simply shooting dead dogs?
Zero-bama missed the opportunity one year ago by trashing Hillary Clinton’s plan to target the banking and mortgage problems rather than giving you $700. His congress, lined up to pick an Affirmative Action phony, backed him up, and you got your $700 check.
This is a serious judgment mistake. Had he had the vision, not his own, but following his fellow democrat’s, and supported his then opponent, for the good of the country and for the sake of your own retirement accounts – if you had a job, you probably would have not witnessed this nearly 50% decline in stock market and your own retirement accounts (not to care about your own investment account – I suppose you have no idea what I am talking about).
Zero-bama simply has no clue about anything, except deception to win blind votes like yours. It is not cool to vote him just because he is black.
Am I a racist now!
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
reddog
fannie and freddie are not what cost where we had to spend money…
everyone committed sin
BECAUSE there was no “risk”
because of speculation …
because the regulations were removed by a very evil and stupid man
Phil Gramm pushing this through a republican lead congress
just like he did with energy speculation
this guy as far as I am concerned …should be shipped to Alaska with the Polar Bears… and maybe if we are lucky…Sarah palin will mistake him for a wolf and earn herself 20 points in the “helicopter game”.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
In fact, his Democratic Party and their sub-prime legislation without safeguards or regulations is the reason for the chaos.
—————————-
Yet another parrot
The SEC’s deregulation (IN 2004) that allowed banks to lend at 40:1 instead of 12:1 (dollars loaned to capital reserves)led to the failure.
There would be no subprime loans if this deregulation hadn’t occured. The banks wouldn’t have had the money to loan. They would have had to have more capital reserves and would not been able to give risky loans.
But keep spewing the party line. Don’t let facts get in your way or anything.
Posted by: Let's try this again | October 10, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Biden is kinda stepping on his own point. He’s apparently “too old” to remember who said what and where.
Posted by: gaypastor | October 10, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
reddog
I don’t think you get how it works
EVERYONE who was involved in it was “pushing it”
because in their minds …there was no risk.
It wasn’t just fannie and freddie
oy.
it was the fact that basic common sense and regulations were not in place because the worst man in America as far as I am concerned …pushed to remove them…through a republican congress.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
YOU REPUBLICANS THINK TROOPERGATE IS NOTHING? YOU’RE IDIOTS, CNN IS DOING UPDATES ON THE STORY ABOUT EVERY 15 MINUTES -Waiting for the report to be released!
TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK-TICK-TOCK….
The clock ticks down waiting for the TROOPERGATE BOMBS TO FALL!!!!
This is going to make Ayers look like “childs play!” Impeachable offenses for Palin in an ABUSE OF POWER SCANDAL!!
CAN YOU SAY OCTOBER SURPRISE REPUBLICANS??
Today the Palin/McCain campaign comes to an end!!
http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/551531.html
Posted by: Davis | October 10, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Obama’s close relationship with Ayers
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim is one of sheer panic — and they have a good reason to be scared witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors — all of them dark red!
If the truth becomes better known — and it will if the Ayers issue is doggedly pursued — it will be clear that Obama was not only deeply immersed the fetid swamp of Chicago’s far-left political scene, but was from the very beginning of his career carefully groomed by the city’s socialist left to follow the path he’s on now in his quest for the presidency of the United States.
Giving credence to the charge that Obama was “groomed by an older generation of radical leftists for insertion into the American political process, trading on good looks, brains, educational pedigree, and the desire of the vast majority of the voting public to right the historical racial wrongs of the [past]” as the American Thinkers’ Thomas Lifson has written:
• Obama belonged to the socialist New Party, described by Lifson as “a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far-left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left.” A March 22, 1998 article by John Nichols in These Times revealed, “After six years, the party has built what is arguably the most sophisticated left-leaning political operation the country has seen since the decline of the Farmer-Labor, Progressive and Non-Partisan League groupings of the early part of the century.”
• Obama has been allied with ACORN and their Project Vote, the radical leftist group now charged with massive vote fraud aimed at electing Barack Obama president of the United States. Obama has long been directly involved with ACORN. An article by Toni Foulkes of ACORN, “Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign,” which appeared in Social Policy magazine in 2004, Foulkes revealed ACORN noticed Obama when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project. Wrote Foulks: “He was a very good organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by the National Voting Rights Act … Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar … and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them). Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office.”
• Obama and Bill Ayers were close associates for years, going back as far as 1995 if not earlier. According to CNN: “A review of board minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project. The Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match local private funds to improve schools… Obama was asked to serve as the board chairman in 1995… For seven years, Ayers and Obama — among many others — worked on funding for education projects, including some projects advocated by Ayers … The board, for example, gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Ayers’ small schools project… The funding, according to records… CNN reviewed, came directly from the Annenberg foundation which Obama chaired. While working on the Annenberg project, Obama and Ayers also served together on a second charitable foundation, the Woods Fund.”
No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-limits.
Posted by: George | October 10, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Vanessa,
You are dirty slump bag, now that you say Clinton has done something good and Zero-bama uses his advisers. Is your memory so tiny to fill your bad mouthing the Clintons during the primaries?!
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Actually there is no quick fix to the mess we are in. All those loans that were defaulted on have to be paid for and guess who gets to do it? You , me and all the other people who work, pay taxes and do what responsible people do. Bidens would be boss has been a shaker of the federal government money tree for years, not only that he actually sued to make banks such as citigroup make these risky loans and as of last year favored the business model of freddie and fannie. Our politicians that pushed programs such as these should be jailed and driven from office but instead we will watch mindless minions in search of the next handout elect a man who helped to create the problem.
And this man is an agent of change?
Posted by: david | October 10, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
Obama-bots remind me of Mao’s Red Guards. It’s a cult of personality. Ready to mindlessly act on anything the great helmsman says, with no regard to logic, reason or morals
Posted by: pat | October 10, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Palin’s staff ordered to preserve emails… ooohh, nasty.
Posted by: bubba | October 10, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
– There would be no subprime loans if this deregulation hadn’t occured. The banks wouldn’t have had the money to loan. –
And sub-prime loans wouldn’t make a difference if the banking industry had not been deregulated by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed parts of the Glass-Steagall Act prohibiting banks from offering investment, commercial banking and insurance services, and removing many of the regulations that were in place for the finanical services sector For the first time since the 1920′s, banks were allowed to take mortgages, package them up, and sell to investors.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
DAVIS, DIDN’T YOUR MOMMA GET YOUR LAZY ASS OUT OF HER BASEMENT YET?
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO GET A JOB.
AT MCDONALS FOR STARTERS.
Posted by: pop | October 10, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Just goes to prove, you can take the boy out of the Ghetto but you can’t take the Ghetto out of the boy. Barry is a Fraud and always has been a FRAUD!!! America is finally waking up to this fact. Thank God!!!!!
Posted by: sis | October 10, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
http://netspeex.com/post/2008/10/10/Obamas-close-relationship-with-Ayers.aspx
Posted by: snoop | October 10, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
and be very clear because if one more person talk about the letter Mccain wrote in may of 2006
guess what the meltdown started then
his letter was about 6 years too late…
you know back when he and his buddy Gramm pushed for the repeal of those regulations that would have kept this in check.
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
======================================
JOE BIDEN THIS FOR YOU….AND INCLUDING
YOU……..
I DON’T BELIEVE EITHER CANDIDATE HAS
ANY SOLUTIONS…………
DO YOU REALLY WANT SOLUTIONS???????
-REPLACE 535 MEMBERS OF CONGERSS INCLUDING McCAIN,OBAMA,THE ADMINISTRATION,WALL STREET AND THE FAT CATS,SEC CHAIRMAN,CEO’S,EXECUTIVES,
CABINET MEMBERS……
OUTLAW LOBBYISTS,SPECIAL INTERESTS ETC.
PASS STRICT LAWS AGAINST CORRUPTION AND
ENFORCE THE LAW OF THE LAND……
PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION
OF U.S.A……….
Posted by: Nicholas | October 10, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Obama is a fraud, and his wife needs therapy, she has an inferiority complex. They both are racists. What more do we need to know? We don’t have time to find out right now. NOBAMA 08
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
======================================
JOE BIDEN THIS FOR YOU….AND INCLUDING
YOU……..
I DON’T BELIEVE EITHER CANDIDATE HAS
ANY SOLUTIONS…………
DO YOU REALLY WANT SOLUTIONS???????
-REPLACE 535 MEMBERS OF CONGERSS INCLUDING McCAIN,OBAMA,THE ADMINISTRATION,WALL STREET AND THE FAT CATS,SEC CHAIRMAN,CEO’S,EXECUTIVES,
CABINET MEMBERS……
OUTLAW LOBBYISTS,SPECIAL INTERESTS ETC.
PASS STRICT LAWS AGAINST CORRUPTION AND
ENFORCE THE LAW OF THE LAND……
PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION
OF U.S.A……….
Posted by: Nicholas | Oct 10, 2008 5:01:31 PM
I am with you!!!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
The quote from Rick Davis saying McCain campaign doesn’t need to talk about the markets because they “aren’t a CNBC news show” sums up why McCain has zero traction on the economy. Voters who are both struggling and panicked want candidates to chat up what they would do about their, yes, daily problems.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | October 10, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
The sub prime loans were from Carter first then clinton COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Disclaimer – I think Bush has been a weak POTUS. The worst? Probably not. Dealt a tough hand? Possibly.
But put your campaign buttons down for a moment and consider the considerable spin of recent weeks/months.
There’s no doubt that the US economy is struggling horribly. Has Bush helped much? Doubtful. But before you ‘punish Bush and Republicans’ for everything…consider:
- Bush set most of the foreign and domestic policies, but his spending/budget plans were approved by congress. The last 2 years by a dem congress.
- Credit and monetary policy is set by the Fed. They may not be above political influence, but acts largely independently.
- The US yields great (but waning) global economic influence. Consider that the world markets are trembling. Foreign instutions are failing just like the US. If corporate America has been drunk with power and greed, Europe and Asia have been loyal wing-men.
My point is, there’s sufficient mistakes to share across all aspects of global business, government, and, yes, the global consumer population.
Don’t be naive a make a naive decision to cast a vote based on campaign spin, party strife, and hate for Bush. The economy will not heal in a week, but your vote can affect 4 years.
Posted by: NoKneeJerk | October 10, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Yes George.. we are all well aware of Obamas tenuous ‘relationships’. The do pale in comparison to McCains direct involvement with terrorists, and his circumvention of the law to provide funds and arms for them. USCWF, WACL, AACL, KLA, etc.. he has had his hands in a lot of the more shady events in our history, both directly and indirectly. Go look at http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com, and realize that it was John McCain who pushed legislation to provide funds and arms to that group, has been praised by the AACL for doing so, and continues to support US actions in Kosovo as evidenced by his recent statement to that fact in the last presidential debate.
I’d rather vote for someone who sat on the board of a charitable organization which may have had a ‘terrorist’ of fourty years past, than a man who sat on the board of an organization that knowingly and willingly funded and armed terrorists, and skirted the law to do so.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
I’ll say one thing about Obama; he has managed to rally together the most nasty people in the country together to build his coalition. Just read your own blogs right here–nothing but hate filled personal attacks. The more you people speak, the more votes your candidate loses.
Posted by: tammy | October 10, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Obama-bots remind me of Mao’s Red Guards. It’s a cult of personality. Ready to mindlessly act on anything the great helmsman says, with no regard to logic, reason or morals
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Hahahahaha
And YOU have Palin. Who mindlessly acts herself.
Posted by: Whatever | October 10, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Cab I just take a minute to break from the partisan bickering to tell a bunch of strangers on a blog…
I just got off the phone with my father…
My dad lost his pension when Polaroid closed shop and sold out their workers…
he recovered by working really hard on staying on top of investments he made with what little money he and my mom had…
today …he called and asked if they could move in with me…
and a very proud man cried.
too bad someone couldn’t look into the future back in 1999 and we pulled all this speculation bologne off…
Posted by: dl | October 10, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
– Bush set most of the foreign and domestic policies, but his spending/budget plans were approved by congress. The last 2 years by a dem congress. –
During his term in office, Bush has vetoed 11 bills coming out of congress. Only 1 of those was when the Republicans had control. Two of his vetos were on bills that would have closed the Enron loophole, providing an immediate reduction in gasoline and natural gas prices. Congress can only do so much with a big-oil, big corporate president. McCain is almost identical in his stance in that regard.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
What has Barry done lately? Less than four years in the senate, 2 of which have been spent campaigning? Campaign for Raila Odinga, his militant Kenyan cousin that has killed hundreds of innocents after he lost a democratic election? “Community Organize” on Chicago’s South Side and leave those neighborhoods in worse condition than he found them? Ring any bells?
Posted by: / | October 10, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
MY WIFEY WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY, SHE WOULD ONLY BE PROUD OF AMERICA IF GOOD OLE BUCKY WAS ELECTED PREZ. NOW DON’T BOTHER ME ASKING ABOUT ISSUES ANYMORE. (yes but mister president, it’s time for the State of the Union Address). WELL, JUST RUN THAT HOPE AND CHANGE CAMPAIGN SPEECH BY THOSE SUCKERS AGAIN.
Posted by: oprah | October 10, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Obama and this ACORN have been all about registering voters, mostly from the lower economic class. The Republicans have demonstrated in the last several elections that they are about robbing Americans of their right to vote, mostly those from the lower economic class. I prefer some mistakes of the enfranchisement side than on the disenfranchisement side.
As for bank loans to people who might have trouble paying the loans back, i.e. trying to make loans available to the poorer people, this is not what caused the crisis, and let’s get that straight. The crisis was from Republican deregulation of wall street and the banks, so these loans were oddly packaged into “derivatives” and traded like stock on Wall Street, and that is what caused the crash– not the loans themselves, but the overvaluing of them through investment funds and stocks by Wall Street traders. I am sick of seeing stupid right-wingers try to blame poor folks and Dems for this debacle when, as history will one day very clearly demonstrate, it was deregulating banks and trading LOANS LIKE STOCK, which was a rich wall street Republican stunt. I am also sick of seeing right wingers make accusations that ACORN is some scandulous organization. You ever notice all those voting irregularities, those voters lists they made in Florida and Ohio, did not cause the state prosecutors to barge into the offices and seize evidence? Why? Because the Republican buttwipes own the machinery, and they decided to use it against ACORN. Long live ACORN, long live democratic enfranchisement of all citizens– you want to know who is behind phony vote registration to destroy ACORN? You’ll find out later it was voter provacateurs, a Republican operation to besmirch and hopefully shut down voter registration drives because Republicans don’t want Americans to vote, that’s what they proved time and again.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Right Joe … where are the answers that all these smart people who follow obama have? … half the country is not following obama … and he is seeking to divide the country just like he did the democratic party!!!!
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | October 10, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
A shocking admission from McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis:
“‘There’s very little a candidate for president can say and very little the president can say about what’s happening in the stock markets except hope that they correct themselves,’ Davis said.”
Sorry, we don’t need another president who thinks he can’t do anything on the economy except “hope it corrects itself.”
Obama/Biden ’08
Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 10, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
PUTIN IS ON THE PHONE? TELL THAT BRO TO WAIT A MINUTE, UNTIL I CAN STOP STUTTERING. WHAT? NUCLEAR MISSLES HEADED THIS WAY? TELL HIM I HAVE A PLAN FOR HOPE AND CHANGE, AND I’LL GET BACK TO HIM AS SOON AS I FIGURE IT OUT!
Posted by: sal | October 10, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
– What has Barry done lately? Less than four years in the senate, 2 of which have been spent campaigning? –
Go look.. Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored over 130 pieces of legislation in this session of congress.. McCain only has 38. In addition, McCain has missed more votes in congress than any other senator this session, and during the same time, Obama has voted more than McCain.
http://thomas.loc.gov/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Barry H. Obama has learned most of the things while caimaigning.
Must’ve been quite an experience for him.
What a ride!
Posted by: snoopdog | October 10, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
I wish they would name their advisors and committee members they would have their teams.
I think it would be a game changer.
Posted by: becky | October 10, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
who in the world would want to vote for a an anorexic chain smoking drug addict, with a muslim background, a hypocrite who says he is a Christian but belongs to a racist all black church, and very limited experince in politics, a cardboard cutout full of hot air who came from nowhere, that no one heard about until a few months ago? I know who! A bunch of idiots, half the democratic party, just like half of the country that voted for Bush not once but twice!
Posted by: keti | October 10, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
MY FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!!!!!
HUSSEIN OBAMA AND JOE BIDEN ARE LEFT
WING SOCIALISTS……..
AMERICANS DESERVE REAL LEADERS!!!!!!
Posted by: Nicholas | October 10, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
dl,
This is a serious problem and the sad truth is that Zero-bama has not showed any clue he is capable of guiding the economy to a recovery.
He seems only knowing how to pander the voters, first promoted the so-called stimulus $700 check for some of you, and then promising to give you $1000 bucks if you vote for him.
He is currently having his House Mommy to do yet another check giveaway.
Has any of these “stimulus” helped your friend’s dad’s pension?
Ask yourself one question, aside from party politics, from this used-to-be democrat: What if Zero-bama takes his country first and made the correct judgment to support his former opponent’s idea of rescuing banking and mortgage financial sectors, rather than giving $700 money away to individuals, ONE YEAR ago? Perhaps, that $300 billion dollars at that time would have helped the real problem of this “economy”, which is still banking and mortgage. If he supported it, the House and Senate which wanted to support him, this phony, would have gone along. Perhaps, your fiend’s dad would have not been crying now.
Zero-bama is simply not to be trusted. He has never helped anyone, certainly has not put his country first, before his own interest of buy your votes.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
caught off guard and without a telepromper, Bucky stutters like Porky Pig on cocaine. And Michelle comes across as an angry militant racist gorilla.
don’t let these freaks anywhere near the white house
Posted by: NO BAMA 081 | October 10, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
– This is a serious problem and the sad truth is that Zero-bama has not showed any clue he is capable of guiding the economy to a recovery. –
He has. His tax plan would inject immediate capital into the economy by giving larger breaks to working Americans instead of those earning over $100K, and the modestly increased taxes for the wealthy would increase government revenue. In addition, his health plan would save corporations an estimated $140 billion a year, which would inject even more capital into the system, create jobs and stimulate the economy. On top of that, the increased number of currently uninsured Americans (estimated 47% compared to McCain at 7% at peak) would provide additional revenue to health care providers.
What has McCain proposed? Deregulate, cut taxes (except for employer provided health care) and give an across the board tax credit. His tax plan, like his health plan favors the wealthy and would do nothing to turn around the economic problems.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Sal, By now a majority of Americans are sick and tired of scare tactics and fear mongering. Yet that is what Palin has been doing lately, “I fear that Obama doesn’t love his country because he pals around with TERRORISTS!” Disgusting. Not but a decade ago we probably would have called Ayers a “militant protester”, but now we get to use the !!!T!!! word and drag in all that fear they have crammed down your throats for the last eight years. Yes, Ayers was militantly against the Viet Nam war back in the sixties, so F#%ing what? That was about forty years ago, and yes, now he has that same sense of passion about education, so he is a professor of education and runs programs to help educate Americans. That guy has gotten a bum rap out of you, America. He cared enough about his country to fight against Viet Nam, that was not to destroy America, it was to stop Americans from dying by the thousands. Ok, he should not have blown off dynamite, but I am sure he is much wiser today. I don’t see him blowing off dynamite to stop the Iraq war. Instead, he is trying to educate people. You guys dig up anything and everything, matter of fact I don’t know why the f&^% I am even discussing Ayers, what the hell does he have to do with the Obama campaign? Veeeery little indeed, but it’s all you creeps can dig and dredge up. It’s stupid and I do not believe the majority of Americans are going to fall for the old !!!!T!!! label stuck to Obama, it’s a travesty against common sense.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
He has. His tax plan would inject immediate capital into the economy…
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 5:22:04 PM
—
Yes, he promised to give you $1000 bucks if you vote for him.
In my book it’s called fraud.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
– In my book it’s called fraud. –
Well, you can lead a horse to water, but some are too stupid to see it.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
don’t let these freaks anywhere near the white house
Posted by: NO BAMA 081 | Oct 10, 2008 5:19:21 PM
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Man you’re right about that! Who wants that old fool McAlzheimer’s, his evil wife, the wicked witch of the southwest and that lying parrot airhead Palin anywhere near the white house!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 10, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
I have never heard of Obama until not too long ago. A very obscure senator, yet wannabe president.
Posted by: Aaron | October 10, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
– I have never heard of Obama until not too long ago. A very obscure senator, –
Then you haven’t been paying attention, starting back when he was all over the news when he became president of the Harvard Law Review.
And I suppose you had heard of Palin before a month or so ago?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Sorry to hear that dl. We actually had a friend who worked for Polaroid years ago.
I’m afraid there’s going to more of your kind of stories no matter who wins this election.
Posted by: Dave in VA | October 10, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Concerned American,
If you are indeed concerned, you would have seen it.
It’s not cool to vote for Zero-bama simply because he is black, or simply he is not from George W. Bush’s party.
Zero-bama lacks the basic judgment to be in that office.
I would have not hesitated to vote for Joe Biden for the Presidency. I’d be willing to consider John McCain. But, I will certainly not vote for Zero-bama.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
–And I suppose you had heard of Palin before a month or so ago?–
Yes, I’m from Alaska. However I did hear about Ayers and hes not from Alaska.
Posted by: Aaron | October 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
reddogg
i suppose you are refering to alaskas dividend?
i will tell you i lived in alaska from 6th grade till i finished high school.
and even then i stayed there for a few years after highschool. In ketchikan of all places too… which is the place where the bridge to nowhere was planned…
but thats besides the point…
i havent lived in alaska since 2000, so palin didnt come to power until well after i left.
I can assure you that i recieved a dividend every year i was there except the first year.
As it takes a year to become a citizen of alaska.
So palin never introduced your dividend. And the state has always taken oil revenue and given it back to its citizens
once again… palin had nothing to do with it…
Also her pipeline she always talks about has yet ot be built and exists only on paper.
Once it is built i am sure the dividend will go up… but once again.. palin will have nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Bhrandon | October 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Look at you right-wing idiots, using “Hussein” to imply and smear your lies and deception, and AGAIN it is fear-mongering at its most stupid and base. A guy’s middle name = !!!T!!! because it sounds Islamic??? How f%$#ing retarded can you guys get. And calling Michelee a gorilla??? You guys embarrass me and make me sad that such countrymen are out there sharing my nation. Go crawl in a hole for the next four years and shut the f^%$ up, you had your turn and showed what you are, fake patriotism, hipocrisy stinking to high heaven, lies to start wars, total lack of compassion for people living in other countries, ignorance, false pride, blustering ignorance, I’m so sick of seeing idiots rule. I voted twice against Bush, and now you all finally know why.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
JOE WHY DID YOU MEET WITH A FINACIER OF THE LEAD HIJACKER ON 911. THE VICTIMS FAMILIES HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW…
Posted by: hmn | October 10, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Then you haven’t been paying attention, starting back when he was all over the news when he became president of the Harvard Law Review.
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 5:28:51 PM
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Being the President of Harvard Law Review, Zero-bama wrote exactly zero opinions, articles, or commentaries combined.
Zero is the character of 0bama (and that 0 is a zero).
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
– Yes, I’m from Alaska. However I did hear about Ayers and hes not from Alaska. –
Good! Now, have you heard about the USCWF, WACL, AACL, KLA or did you ever read about that Iran-contra thing?
Take a look at http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com and see what McCain supports, in both funding and providing arms, and subverted the law to do so..
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Reynold,
Hussein is just as bad as Barack or Obama
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
caught off guard and without a telepromper, Bucky stutters like Porky Pig on cocaine.
——————-
Your well crafted, astute, and highly intellectual position on the matter has been noted. And in retort, all I can say is:
“But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas. A
And trade we’ve got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade sector today. We’ve got to look at that as more opportunity. ALl those things under the umbrella of job creation.
This bailout is a part of that.”
Posted by: You were saying? | October 10, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
– Being the President of Harvard Law Review, Zero-bama wrote exactly zero opinions, articles, or commentaries. –
Not as president, that isn’t their job.. think if it as editor in chief. Not surprising that you wouldn’t know that however..
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Concerned American:
I’m a vet.
When you go to war you don’t ask “why”.
You shouldn’t be that concerned if you served the country.
Posted by: Aaron | October 10, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Bob, what’s in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
– Zero-bama lacks the basic judgment to be in that office. –
Funny you would say that given the dismal lack of judgment that McCain has shown over the past several years, not to mention his biggest blunder of picking Palin as running mate.
If the two platforms were reversed, I’d would vote for McCain with serious reservations about Palin, and only hope that McCain wouldn’t kick it before the end of his term. Obamas tax plan is better, his health plan is better, his energy direction is better, his foreign policy stance is better, and he is by far more intelligent and has shown better judgment and the ability to rationally make decisions and has insight into what those decisions will do long term.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
–Bob, what’s in a name? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.–
hows this for a name?
Posted by: You can call me Hussein "the Christian" | October 10, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Aaron, So if the American government declared war to commit genocide, or they ordered you to go and kill when it was obviously wrong, you wouldn’t even ask why? Let me tell you something, that mentality betrays everything our founding fathers believed America should be. You are not to be some robot who just follows orders like a stupid Nazi, you are supposed to be an intelligent American who has the courage to overthrow his own government if it creates tyranny, that is your job as an American, soldier.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
– I’m a vet. When you go to war you don’t ask “why”. –
Nope, but you should at least trust your leaders not to put you in harms way unless it is absolutely necessary. McCain’s shoot first ask questions later stance mirrors that of Bush, who led us into Iraq simply to distract away from his failed attempt in Afghanistan. McCain has already indicated he has his sights set on Iran, Libia, Syria, North Korea and others. Not the kind of person you want in charge of the largest military force in the world, and not someone who, as an ex-marine, I would want as my leader.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Concerned American,
You name does not match your action.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
guess what I got Michelle for b’day?
A box of GORRILA FACE COOKIES1
Posted by: BLOBAMA HUSSEIN | October 10, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
You can call me Hussein “the Christian”
Oh, now we have a namebook and are deciding who can and can’t be Christian according to whether the name is in your stupid book??? Maybe you forgot the message of Jesus, you remember, the story about the robbed man, and who helped him out of the ditch? It was a guy named Hussein, but since he is named Hussein we should cut his hand off for pulling us out of the ditch.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Not as president, that isn’t their job.. think if it as editor in chief. Not surprising that you wouldn’t know that however..
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 5:37:42 PM
—
Anything works for you, as long as it is Zero.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Concerned American,
There you go again using that logic stuff again
Really now, using rational thought just makes them more confused.
You really need to get a waving flag behind you, play the national anthem, and say “freedom” a couple dozen times.
Then put things into one and two syllable words whenever possible. And sum up all arguements in an overly simplistic sentence so it’s easily repeatable.
If you’ll just do that first, it’ll be just like the sheep in Animal Farm. Trust me, it works every four years for the RNC.
But, if you want to get all fact oriented and logical, you go right ahead. But don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Dave
Posted by: Dave in VA | October 10, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Former GOP Gov. Of Michigan unhappy with Mccain:
He endorsed John McCain in the presidential primary, but now former Republican Gov. William Milliken is expressing doubts about his party’s nominee.
“He is not the McCain I endorsed,” said Milliken, reached at his Traverse City home Thursday. “He keeps saying, ‘Who is Barack Obama?’ I would ask the question, ‘Who is John McCain?’ because his campaign has become rather disappointing to me.
“I’m disappointed in the tenor and the personal attacks on the part of the McCain campaign, when he ought to be talking about the issues.”
Posted by: Paige | October 10, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
– You name does not match your action. –
How so? By voting for the candidate who would best change the direction of this country for the best? Who has shown he is for working class Americans instead of the wealthy and big corporations? Who is concerned about health care, energy independence, affordable housing, equal rights, veterans, national policy regarding our overseas relationships?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Reynold,
That’s a perspective. Your only and lonely perspective.
Posted by: Aaron | October 10, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Aaron, go read the words of Jefferson, fo read the U.S. constitution, maybe you’ll figure out that that is the perspective of the folks who created your country.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Sorry Dave.. Just can’t help it :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Our country came into being because people overthrew a government, Jefferson believed we would occasionally have to overthrow our own government in order to stay free men. Jefferson would despise the idea that, as a good American soldier, you’ll do what the Federal government says, no questions ask. You really are betraying our founding fathers to have that attitude.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Reynold, if you’re not from this country you should’n be allowed to post here.
Posted by: Aaron | October 10, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Maybe this will help:
McCain Tax Plan.. Bad
Obama Tax Plan.. Good
McCain Health Plan.. terrible
Obama Health Plan.. brilliant
McCain Energy plan.. Bad
Obama Energy plan.. Good
McCain Foreign Policy.. Kill ‘em first
Obama Foreign Policy.. talk then kill
McCain.. stoopid
Obama.. intelligent
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Mr. McCain is losing the election and may lose in a landslide. This isn’t a cult or socialism or Messiah-speak like some of these silly posts. This is the continuance of the anti-Republican wave. The democrats came in real power in January 2008 when they could override the veto. Bush was the greatest user of veto power. They get into real major power in January 2009 when they can override the fillibuster.Democrats only had power for about 9mo before the crash.
Most people are tired of the Bush/Cheney rape and pillage of our country. It’s “kick the bums out!”. McCain has voted 90% of the time with Bush over the last 4yrs. He was a Bushie sidekick and erased any non right wing Republican stance right then and there. He made up with the fringe evangelical Christian right, the actually speaking-in-tongues and Republican neoconservative speak- the true cults and nationalists. Silly pawns. You are voting not in your best interest.
Our constitution has been pillaged, our Blood and Treasure abused and we have over $800B in spending on a war of choice “by cult neoconservatives”. Our country has fallen into an economic tumble the worse since the Great Depression.
It’s no accident that both Senators Obama and Biden are constitutional lawyers and know the stakes for mending our constitution, restoring rule of law, restoring the Supreme Court balance. They are wise and have the best of our thinkers and doers in the land; the best economists and financial wizards, health and human services wizards, and so on. We will need the best of our land to rebuild our nation for the 21st century.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 10, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
“Look at you right-wing idiots, using “Hussein” to imply and smear your lies and deception, and AGAIN it is fear-mongering at its most stupid and base.”
OH WHAT A POOR LITTLE SENSITIVE BRAINWASED OBOT.
GET USED TO IT FREAK. AFTER ALL THE NAMES YOU CALLED HILLARY AND MCCAIN , PAYBACKS ARE GOIN TO BE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE!
Posted by: MICHELLE IS A GORILLA | October 10, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I was born in the USA, my great grandmother was a Native American Indian, but I am a typical white boy. Aside from your weird misjudgment based on a NAME, I would disagree with you completely. I welcome the opinions of other countries because they might offer a perspective we don’t see as Americans. You are stupid, I am not answering to you ever again, go ahead and make some ridiculous statement, there’s no schooling the hardline fools.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Here is McCain on when to use Armed Forces – August 1, 2000:
LEHRER: .. when should the United States deploy its armed forces abroad, and what criteria should be used? Are you comfortable with the decision-making that would – that a Bush-Cheney- Powell triumvirate would make?
McCAIN: Yes. I’m extremely comfortable and basically it’s when American interests and values are threatened. And sometimes when our values are threatened, over time our interests can be threatened. I can’t make an argument to you that Kosovo posed an immediate threat to our national interest. But I can argue that it offended our values to a degree that if allowed to go unchecked, then unrestrained, once Milosevic started to do his ethnic cleansing, then sooner or later our interest would be threaten because that same kind of scenario would transpire in other places in Europe.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html
Posted by: sammy | October 10, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
lucy2008 rocks
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Obama said he was going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states — did he just “lose his bearings” or was it a Freudian slip? Does he have Islam on his Muslim mind?
Posted by: / | October 10, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Could be Michelle become a control freak? Or is she already?
Posted by: Jason M. | October 10, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Yeah, remember when he campaigned in downtown-Berlin? What the heck was that for?
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
“OH WHAT A POOR LITTLE SENSITIVE BRAINWASED OBOT.
GET USED TO IT FREAK. AFTER ALL THE NAMES YOU CALLED HILLARY AND MCCAIN , PAYBACKS ARE GOIN TO BE YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE!”
Sticks and stones, my friend. The real issue I discussed, which you of course missed, is the idea that using a name like “Hussein” is supposed to imply terrorism. That is so retarded I cannot believe there are so many people out there thinking like that. People must be brain damaged to think a name somehow = “terrorism”. It’s all false, you are living in an illusion and cannot even see it. Please wake up before it is too late.
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
– Obama said he was going to campaign in 57 states, –
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
The Berlin speech had two main purposes, one domestic and one for abroad. Europeans really want to see Obama in office because they know he will bring some common sense and diplomacy back the the nation. But the speech was also for Americans to see that he is an international statesman. If you remember, McsAME challenged Obama to go abroad, so he did. But then of course they criticized him for doing it. Typical…
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
‘DAMN IT, WILL YOU TELL THEM TO WAIT A MINUTE? I NEED TO FINISH MY SMOKE IN THIS HEAR BATHROOM IN THE WHITEYHOUSE, I’LL BE RIGHT UP THERE FOR THAT MEETING IN A MINUTE! OH TELL MY KIDS TO QUIT SWINGING FROM THE CHANDELIERS TOO! AND DON’T LET ANYONE IN THE LINCOLN BEDROOM, WE ARE HAVING A CRACK PARTY AND GAY SEX!
Posted by: / | October 10, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
“Obama said he was going to campaign in 57 states”
Indeed he did say that, and the rightwingnuts claim there are 57 terrorist states (again, absolutely retarded). Do these guys even LOOK for the truth? No they do not. If they did, then the first thing they would do is count up the U.S. states plus our territories, like Peurto Rico and others = 57. Obama just wanted to include those territories without having to explain it, but of course the rightwingnut dummies need everything explained to them very slowly, then they still twist words to mean things they should not. Typical…
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
reminded me of Adolf
Posted by: Rasmunssen | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
yep, and then we’ve got his kids swinging on the chandeliers in the White House, while he’s doing coke and sneaking cigs in the bathroom before a meeting. And the revival of affirmitive action, slave reparations and all kinds of horrors.
Posted by: sue | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Ok, I can’t take anymore of the racism and ignorance, it doesn’t seem there is any intelligent conversation to be had, mostly people making racist comments and stupid statements. You guys win…
But you won’t come election time :-)
Posted by: Reynold | October 10, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
once a muslim, always a muslim
Posted by: barb | October 10, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Born an idiot, die an idiot.
Posted by: Bo | October 10, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
The double standard in all this is amazing to me.
Three weeks ago, when John McCain suspended his campaign in an effort to return to Washington and assist in the bail-out plan, and might not participate in the first debate, and the nation’s economic recovery was more important, everyone was saying he didn’t need to do that, go back to the campaign, go to the debate, etc. etc.
Now that he’s gone back to the campaign trail, and everyone doesn’t like what they’re now hearing from his campaign, all of a sudden now they want him to pay attention to the economic crisis.
Three weeks ago, he wasn’t supposed to care, now he doesn’t care enough.
This man cannot win with you people no matter what he does.
Posted by: SandyB | October 10, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
don’t know what’s more scary, the cover up by the MSM for Obama, or his brainwashed Nazi Youth supporters like Reynold, who typically respond to any questioning of their Messiah with an angry barrage of hate filled insults.
Guess what Obots, your candidate was never vetted at all and has run the most corrupt campaign in history.
Better get used to people like Natasha, and millions of others who will only make sure to find out about Obama especially if he does steal the Presidency.
get used to it. He will never escape the upcoming scrutiny.
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Mr. H. should not be afraid to go campaigning in all Islamic countries and have a tea with their leaders.
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
MCCAIN: “I just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.”
(The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, 2/21/2000)
Apparently McCain, and his supporters indeed have no vision, and the only thing that has been articulated is “Maverick”, which reminds me of the rust-bucket car Ford produced back in the 70′s, a fitting comparison.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
We live in a democratic republic with checks and balances defined by our constitution. It is the “check” of the American people to vote and to use “freedom of speech”. It is written in the constitution and the Federalist Papers and by many written documents that the American people have a role in their government. As part of that role, a patriot asks “why” of their government and even “why” when it goes to war. A patriot protests war by using “freedom of speech” and the “vote”. Civil disobedience is up to the heart of every patriot who uses their “freedom of speech” and other actions though they may suffer the rule of law.
I am a patriot to say that I am against the Iraq War. Another is a patriot to say they are for it. This is our country for which it stands.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 10, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Zeig Heil to Bush and the neocons, Zeig heil to AMERICA
Posted by: . | October 10, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Everybody blamed McCain for temporary leaving the camp.
Nobody blamed Obama for camping in Germany.
NOOooBama!!!
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Concerned American:
Zeig Heil to Messiah!!
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
lucy2008 Rocks
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“Ok, I can’t take anymore of the racism and ignorance, it doesn’t seem there is any intelligent conversation to be had, mostly people making racist comments and stupid statements”
It’s ok Reynold, take your mental toys and go home now.
YOU SUCK AS AN OBAMA BLOGGER ANYWAY!
Posted by: joy | October 10, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Erasmus shouldn’t be posting here, his name proves he is from Greece, or maybe RUSSIA.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Silly posts.
The use of language like “nazis”, is very much misused. The Nazis were nationalists.
In our country, the party that behaves like nationalists is the current morphed version of the Republican party (no longer the party of Lincoln). They shout neoconservativism preemptive 1% doctrine, intolerant evangelical Christian religion, country “right” or “wrong”, homogeneous member groups (few ethnic minorities), are merged at the hip with the rich elite capitalists, hate and contempt for minorities and the educated and poets.
Posted by: lucy2008 | October 10, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
That’s just it, Reynold unfortunately left because so many of you have no mental toys whatsoever. Just ignorant sticks and clubs, those are not very nice mental toys, girls and boys.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Lucy2008, careful, they are about to call you a loonie liberal, a Marxist and socialist, though they do not even understand what these words mean.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I think we’ll just call him,
that one, Bucky Hussein Nobama.
how’s that sound?
Posted by: j | October 10, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Matter of fact, Lucy2008, I want to show you something you’ll see is true. Look at those who support McCain/Palin, and then look at those who support Obama/Biden. If you read the posts you will notice something. The educational level of those supporting McCain is much lower than those who support Obama. You’ll see what I mean if you go through the comments. The Repugs use bad logic like guilt by association, or insinuate that a name means something, general lack of thought, they also spell badly and have trouble writing grammatically, plus their ideas are often disconnected or they are simply making racist or other types of bigoted comments based on, once again, ignorance. I hope the more intelligent half of America wins next month, I really hope so because we have had too many years of ignorance ruling the roost.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
McCain didn’t look Obama in the eye, well I wouldn’t either.
He was an ugly, angry gay halloween monster.
Who did his makeup? They should be fired! He was dark and sinister, those damn eyebrows and scowls.
He just lost all the old folks vote.
scary as hell!
Posted by: lee | October 10, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
reddog0216, your ignorance is not the Obama campaign’s problem. Paul Volcker, former chairman of the federal reserve, has been warning about the very problems that have arrived us here for most of this decade, (warning specifically something like 5 years ago that, “if we do not change our policies, there is a 75% chance of a major financial crisis within 5 years”. Volcker endorsed Obama in the primaries, has been advising him ever since and wrote this today:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122360251805321773.html
Little wonder the WSJ didn’t want to identify him as an Obama advisor: it just reflects too well on the candidate. He also gets advice from Summers, Rubin and a host of other heavyweights (though I can’t say as I’m ecstatic about Rubin). Meanwhile, McCain’s got Phil Gramm and Carly Fiorina. Check. Mate.
Posted by: Dan Hunt | October 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Of course I am generalizing, but that is what any study or set of statistics does to reach a conclusion, i.e. I can inductively PROVE that the educational level of McCain supporters is much lower than Obama supporters. And you know what, it isn’t actually that many of these “Obama Supporters” are actually “Obama Supporters”, I believe more the case is that they are very strong Neoconservative Republican NONSUPPORTERS.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Nobody can touch blacks. They are somehow protected and this way the race becomes unfair and unfortunate for the rest of the people.
Should all blacks become presidents?
May the experience be the criteria.
Posted by: Billy Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
–scary as hell!–
lee, just don’t look at his dark-blue lips
Posted by: lee | October 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
I’m a typical lazy a$$ black on welfare, and my man Obama is going to give me more free money, like slave reparations from you white folk!
Posted by: tutu | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Billy Bob, you are the one who just pushed Obama into the category of “blacks”. You belie your own tricks.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Dear Lord, please let those Americans who can see past race really look at these candidates, objectively, and see which direction is best for the country.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
did you see fake Obama guy from the Jay Leno’s show?
Posted by: Will | October 10, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Bob, some of these guys aren’t open to discussion, there is no reasoning, it is evil ignorance on display for the world to read.
Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Bob:
race ok, religion too?
Posted by: Will | October 10, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Ahh….that was him on the cover of the “Curious George” childrens book! Now I get it!
LOL !
Posted by: lil' michelle | October 10, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
yeah, just see past:
race
religion
experience
beliefs
association
everything
just always vote for the black guy and you’re good to go
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Al, you are probably right, but I hope there are 51%, come election time, who will actually think about issues and really look closely at the candidates proposals, before they decide. At this point, McCain seems to be leading his legion into the kind of statements we see here, blind accusations and bigotry. He is already a bad leader for leading the attack like that.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Bob, he is giving them what they want, he is expressing the attacks that were on these blogs before he started attacking, it’s kind of like they feed him and he feeds them, but it is a negative cycle that had best not win next month, or we are in some serious trouble and will not work together to turn the country around. This really is the most important election in the past 50 years, and these knuckleheads are completely blind to what’s at stake.
Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
PICK UP THE GUY WITH MIXED RACES AND
MIXED RELIGIONS AND GIVE HIM THE NUCLEAR BUTTON AND AIRFORCE ONE
Posted by: elektor | October 10, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
That’s the thing you cannot understand Erasmus, I am not voting for a “black guy”.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
me neither
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
As for those using all caps, go count that too and you’ll see it is 90% of the time the McCain supporters. Now why is that? First of all, because they think using all caps somehow makes their statement more forceful, but research shows that it is much harder to read all caps. The second reason not to use all caps is that you have nowhere to go from there, so you lack stylistic choices to use all caps, IDIOTS.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
So who are you voting for, then?
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
I don’t think these are “blind accusations.”
These are items that had the MSM been doing their job all these months would have come out a long time ago.
Obama received a pass for so long on everything, that his supporters and associates thought they could do whatever they please.
Posted by: SandyB | October 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
So you are voting for a white guy because you refuse to vote for a black guy, whereas I am voting for a candidate who will not continue taking our country down the wrong road. Methinks my reasons are better than yours.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
A pass? This is simply a return. This was not passed, if you mean the fake Ayers guilt by association argument, this came up and was dealt with once, but will be dealt with again, and again if necessary.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
‘the fake Ayers guilt’ — not a real guilt (just one by association)
but a real concern
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
as per ACORN-Obama association – yeah, guilt by association
Posted by: Erasmus | October 10, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Why is that a concern, Erassmust? If Ayers was a concern he wouldn’t be lecturing in a University for the last two decades. You are taking something this guy did forty years ago, and are pretending it is something he did last week. He was a leftwing radical as a college student, back when Obama was a child, and you are pretending somehow that relates to the present. It doesn’t. Obama cooperated with a Professor of Education through a charity organization. You are n’t very smart to make this into a guilt by association with a terrorist, it just doesn’t fly, it doesn’t even make sense. I am surprised you can’t see that, but just a bit ago you were on to Obama being black, so if I connect your ignorant racism with this, then it makes sense that you don’t have much sense when it comes to this guilt by (non)association.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Obama and this ACORN have been all about registering voters, mostly from the lower economic class. The Republicans have demonstrated in the last several elections that they are about robbing Americans of their right to vote, mostly those from the lower economic class. I prefer some mistakes of the enfranchisement side than on the disenfranchisement side.
As for bank loans to people who might have trouble paying the loans back, i.e. trying to make loans available to the poorer people, this is not what caused the crisis, and let’s get that straight. The crisis was from Republican deregulation of wall street and the banks, so these loans were oddly packaged into “derivatives” and traded like stock on Wall Street, and that is what caused the crash– not the loans themselves, but the overvaluing of them through investment funds and stocks by Wall Street traders. I am sick of seeing stupid right-wingers try to blame poor folks and Dems for this debacle when, as history will one day very clearly demonstrate, it was deregulating banks and trading LOANS LIKE STOCK, which was a rich wall street Republican stunt. I am also sick of seeing right wingers make accusations that ACORN is some scandulous organization. You ever notice all those voting irregularities, those voters lists they made in Florida and Ohio, did not cause the state prosecutors to barge into the offices and seize evidence? Why? Because the Republican buttwipes own the machinery, and they decided to use it against ACORN. Long live ACORN, long live democratic enfranchisement of all citizens– you want to know who is behind phony vote registration to destroy ACORN? You’ll find out later it was voter provacateurs, a Republican operation to besmirch and hopefully shut down voter registration drives because Republicans don’t want Americans to vote, that’s what they proved time and again.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Biden whatcha Hiden? Have you and Obama got a plan? Lets us hear it.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 10, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
And another thing, you guys just take the headline slurs, whether from Fox or ABC, and you run with it. Have I mentioned headline slurs against McCain or Palin, do I actually care about Trropergate of Keating 5 or any other smear crap? No, I don’t care because it doesn’t matter, now does it? What matters is what I see in the candidates. I see a lot of ignorance and petty ambition in Palin, I see a willingness to go very negative in the Republicans, I see evasion and distraction from what we ought to be talking about, and I see Biden saying that just today. They want to stay on the issues that matter, now why would I vote for the people who don’t even want to concentrate on the issues that Americans care about? Why would I want to dig into militant protestors from four decades ago, or into scandals McCain was in a two decades ago? Both might have changed (Ayers and McCain) through the years, might have become better people, so that does not matter like looking at the candidates in 2008 and what they stand for.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
– You name does not match your action. –
How so? By voting for the candidate who would best change the direction of this country for the best? Who has shown he is for working class Americans instead of the wealthy and big corporations? Who is concerned about health care, energy independence, affordable housing, equal rights, veterans, national policy regarding our overseas relationships?
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 5:50:10 PM
—-
Are you serious? Really.
Zero-bama, promised to vote against and filabuster GWBush’s spying bill during the primaries to pander the far left voters and moveon.com, only to change voting for it. Yesterday, it was reported that Bush’s government, using its newly found green light given by Zero-bama, listened into Americans conversations abroad, including those serving in Iraq phoning home on private matters such as “phone sex and pillow talks”.
Hillary Clinton and John McCain voted against it.
Zero-bama, voted for giving the big oils of billions tax breaks, which he lies to you that his opponents give the big oils taxes breaks.
Hillary Clinton and John McCain voted against it.
Zero-bama, promoted to give some of you $700 cash to “stimulate” the economy, but in reality using it to buy your votes, including the empty promise of giving you another $1000 if you elect him.
His opponents proposed a target rescue on the banking and mortgage financial sectors, ONE year ago. Zero-bama put his own benefit before his country, derailed it because his congress Mommy and Daddy wanted to pick up an Affirmative Action candidate and will do anything this Bonehead wants. This led to the current melt down of the banking and mortgage sector and the stock market. Perhaps you are too young to understand, but your daddy and granddaddy are crying for losing 50% their retirement accounts in the past month.
Zero-bama, on energy and oil-independence, wants to build 1 million electric plug-ins in 10 YEARS, use corn-enthanol, and reducing 30% consumption by YOU, but not telling you (1) that 1 million cars is less than 0.3% of the current 250 million vehicles on the road, consequently, it will do no sh!t to the energy or oil-independence. (2) He does not tell you that the electricity is generated by burning coal and natural gas, generating CO2 to warm up the globe, making Al Gore waking up in the middle of his dreams. (3) He does not tell you he is really against nuclear energy, the only clean, unlimited energy source on this planet.
McCain happens to support nuclear energy, and proposes to build 90 nuclear plants, still way to small a number, but better than Zero, characteristic of Zero-bama His Nothingness.
Posted by: d0 | October 10, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Bob A very important issue that matters to me is the Acorn Voter scandel. And if Obama really cared as about anything but winning he would be denouncing this at every rally. Sorry, but this is the truth and one reason the anger is mounting is some people are for McCain and we do not want our vote to be wiped out by fraud. The bigotry and name calling has to stop, but so does the voter fraud. But the left wing media has also contributed to this for months and fueled people to the point of frustration. At least it has fueled me. I never thought I’d waste my time blogging. But to be honest the media really ticked me off.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 10, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Conf1689, right now the Republican party has been in the news for several different cases of disenfanchisement. The Republicans work to take away voter rights, ACORN works to increase voter rights. There may be a few cases of voter fraud, but can we plead innocent until proven guilty? The voter disenfranchisement lists are proven, the Republicans are guilty of using tactics to take away the legitimate right for some Americans to vote (usually the poor, or minorities), ACORN works in the other direction. If there are some illegitimate registrations, then let’s find them and eliminate them, but at least it isn’t the other situation, i.e. that voters who should have the right to vote are being robbed. That’s worse, the Republican tactic is much worse.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
As a matter of fact, I am glad to see Dems trying to register every possible voter. Recently, they tried to open a few extra offices in Ohio (in poor neighborhoods) to allow people living there to sign up for voting, and who do you think objected and put a court injunction in to close down the registration offices? The damned Republican party, because they don’t want Americans to vote– at least not the poor people who are likely to vote for dems.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
In other words, your party has been robbing Americans of the right to vote, and they steal elcetions through such techniques. It’s about time the Dems put up an opposing strategy to counter that.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
We’re fighting for it this year, because the Republican party is dirty, so Dems just have to get dirty too, I do not want to see another Al Gore kind of loss, we’re the real leader and winner gets kicked out from being too much the gentleman. I hope McCain loses, though I hope the election is fair as far as the cheating goes.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Either way has Obama announced at any of his rallies for Acorn workers to stop. I have seen on the news quite a few states have multiple voter registrations coming in with the same name and fake addresses.The numbers is in the thousnds not a few. I am for everyone having the right to vote as long as they are legitimate. we can plead guilty till proven innocent as long as we have a real person and know who it is we’re accusing. Could we start with Ohios Sec. of State? Gotta go my demotratic friend just stopped by. Have a good night. And lets hope all turns just and right.And shame on Republicans if they stop legitimate people from voting. This is why I am registered Independent.
Posted by: conf1689 | October 10, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
LOOKS LIKE MCCAIN HAS INCITED THE SKINHEADS AND THE KKK ON HERE TONIGHT
but it wont work sidney you silly sawed off little runt—–no wonder you were a dissapointment to your father—he kept hoping he fathered a man—not a slimeball.spewing hate and discontent.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
mccain has had 26 years experience but it doesnt seem like he learned anything–he cannot adress the real problems–and his hate campaigh is disgusting——-the headlights have passed you and you are in the ditch.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
mccain tries constant distractions —and for the real problems he dont have a clue
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
now mccain is trying to appologize –trys to make believe he was not aware of what his wife and palin were doing—–man we dont want this guy in office–to many lies too much deciete and no clue as to real problems—-it is absolutely disgracefull what his wife and palin do—-more like white trash every day.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
The Obama compaign has contributed at least $800,000 to ACORN for voter registration. That means he contributed to the voter registration fraud in the 13 states now under investigation by state or federal authorities. And Obama will not acknowledge the problem caused by his money and support.
Many domestic and foreign financial managers say the sub-prime mortgage legislation was written and passed by the Democrats without the safe guards and regulations in place. It made easy home ownership and mortgages for those who could not afford them. Isn’t socialism great? Hence the world economic chaos. Thanks a lot, Obama, Democrats and their supporters. Senator Obama has no plans to help us out of the economic mess in a real workable way. Senator McCain’s plans are more intelligent and with more help for homeowners.
This is one voter who can not trust or believe Senator Obama. His long-term associates are very troubling. Proves he lacks integrity and good judgment.
Posted by: Marla | October 10, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
hey marla
how do you explain the republican registrarions that were bad—dont tell half truths.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Marls,
Thanks for the Fox news summary, now try to go and think for yourself for once.
Posted by: Bob | October 10, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
no one paid my mortgage for me —why the hell am i paying someone elses—-you get in too deep it is your problem—get your self out.or move out get something you can afford.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
palin found guilty of abuse of power —–the woman she portrays to be is not the real palin—mccain sure can pick them—i never in my life have seen anything like mccains wife and palin spreading hate
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
caught off guard and without a telepromper, Bucky stutters like Porky Pig on cocaine. And Michelle comes across as an angry militant racist gorilla.
don’t let these freaks anywhere near the white house
Posted by: lil' rodney | October 10, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
guess what I got Michelle for b’day?
A box of GORILLA FACE COOKIES!
Posted by: BLOBAMA HUSSEIN | October 10, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Speaking of uncertain. Biden in his debate Mr. Biden stated that the US and France had kicked Hezzbollah out of Lebanon which has never happened. In addition no proof that Obama suggested Nato troops be sent in to fill the vacuum.
I am really wondering these days if anyone in DC knows anything about anything.
Posted by: david | October 10, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
hey marla”
how do you explain the republican registrarions that were bad—dont tell half truths.”
ACORN made many of the illegal registrations Republican to make it look legit. They still were going to cast illegal votes for Obama.
Hey Rodney perhaps you belong to ACORN?
ever her Jackie the Jokeman doing his give Rodney another chance joke?
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Obama may have steady hand, but he doesn’t have a plan. The market needs calm now, Obama has done quit enough. Remember the very first day when Obama was running around depression, depression. When John McCain attempted to get some calm rational thought Obama attacked him. Now Obama is saying McCain wasn’t calm. Obama acted irresponsible and it has cost me almost all of my retirement account. SOmeone should have told him that you need tread carefully and not panic the market. If only Obama would have taken his only advice earlier we might not be in such bad shape.
Posted by: ubu1991 | October 10, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Obama invoked FDR today with the quote, “All we have to fear is fear itself.”
If Obama is the new FDR, does American really need a FDR style ‘New Deal’?
FDR’s socialist reforms held us in a depression until we were pulled out by WWII.
What we really need is more ‘Reaganomics’.
Reagan pulled us out of a deep recession and stagflation, with conservative supply side economics.
Republicans understand this, a democratic ‘New Deal’ will not.
Posted by: lee | October 10, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Biden doesn’t even know what day it is!
He probably thinks that George W Bush’s
Father is still president!
Yeah Obama offers a “steady hand”!
A $1000 welfare check for all
Americans, Universal Healthcare for
all Americans. College money for
all Americans.
Mortgage bailout money for all
Americans.
Billions and Billions of dollars in
foreign aid for The Georgia Republic
and The Ukraine!
Billions of dollars for the U.N.!
Billions of dollars to be “invested”
on wind, solar, bio-fuels!
In this financial situation where on earth is Obama going to find all of this money that he proposes to spend?
If Obama is elected he will make the
economic pain we are suffering now
seem like “the good old days”!
He would have to raise taxes on
everyone!
Electing Obama would be like pouring
gasoline on a fire!
Wake up America!
John McCain is the only sane choice
for president!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 10, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
WAKE UP, AMERICA. SENATOR OBAMA IS A CHARMING, GOOD LOOKING CON MAN. HE WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO WIN. HE IS SELLING SNAKE OIL TO FIX ALL OUR ILLS.
Posted by: Marla | October 10, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
WOW, I just watched ABC’s Nightline…
A last minute scathing addition to the end of the program about Palin and her CONVICTION in Alaska!
Gee, since it was a last minute thing they threw together Terry Moran didn’t quite have all the facts, so he made it sound REALLY BAD… Like she was going to get IMPEACHED OR SOMETHING!
Of course that was after the long report (half the show) about McCain’s ANGRY MOB SCENES!! And of course a minute or two on how ERRATIC McCain has become!
Ouch! Sorry about that one Republicans! That one is going to hurt!
But don’t worry, they showed Obama’s best steady and calm soundbites of the week, during the whole first 15 minutes of the show!
So it is all good!
Hope you got a chance to see the show to!
Posted by: Davis | October 10, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Marla above makes a good point. McCain is not about de-regulating government, but de-regulating private business. The two are getting melted into one by Obama and his Storm Troopers.
I don’t consider the Federal Reserve banks, nor Fannie and Freddie to be truly private enterprises…it is lack of oversight over the Freddie and Fannie in particular that led to this mess. I find it odd that the IRS can regulate OUR personal finances (well, the half of us that actually pay taxes), but the GSEs are exempt from oversight even by the SEC…in retrospect, that should exonerate Cox.
I’m sure that McCain believes that businesses should not get away with embezzlement, stock value inflation, book entry tampering and the like…but you simply cannot legislate a good economy. That is unless we want to have 5-year plans like under Stalin.
A person who starts a successful business has a personal attachment to it. These bean counters that come along later with their golf-playing, cocktail party schmoozing could care less about that company. They are in it for themselves.
It would make sense to do away with bonuses and exorbitant salaries. Give the CEOs preferred stock as their salaries. If they screw up, they truly share the pain of the other stockholders. If they do well, everybody prospers.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 10, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
reddogg
i suppose you are refering to alaskas dividend?
i will tell you i lived in alaska from 6th grade till i finished high school.
and even then i stayed there for a few years after highschool. In ketchikan of all places too… which is the place where the bridge to nowhere was planned…
but thats besides the point…
i havent lived in alaska since 2000, so palin didnt come to power until well after i left.
I can assure you that i recieved a dividend every year i was there except the first year.
As it takes a year to become a citizen of alaska.
So palin never introduced your dividend. And the state has always taken oil revenue and given it back to its citizens
once again… palin had nothing to do with it…
Also her pipeline she always talks about has yet ot be built and exists only on paper.
Once it is built i am sure the dividend will go up… but once again.. palin will have nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Bhrandon | Oct 10, 2008 5:31:32 PM
No actually, I am talking about the extra 1200 she forced oil companies to give back to the citizens last year with the high cost of gasoline
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
OBAMA MISJUDGEMENT CONTINUES–more info George Steph and ABC won’t report
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525564.aspx
Posted by: George Steph of ABC Loves Obama | October 11, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
Joe Biden is a disgrace to the
U.S. Senate and the Democrat Party!
If Obama is elected(God forbid) foreign
leaders would have to refrain from
laughing at this buffoon!
You’d better hope that Obama stays healthy. Biden makes Bush look like
a genius!
Posted by: reaganfan | October 12, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm