McCain Errs About Ayers
ABC News’ Ron Claiborne reports: In his interview with Charles Gibson on "World News," Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., makes a point of saying the former 1960s radical William Ayers said on 9-11, of all days, that he wished he had committed more acts of violence against the U.S. government.
"I don’t care about Mr. Ayers who, on Sept. 11, 2001, said he wished he’d have bombed more," McCain said, while explaining that what really matters is that Obama hasn’t been forthcoming about his association with Ayers.
Ayers admits to having bombed a number of government buildings during his days with the radical Weather Underground. The quote McCain referred to was Ayers teling a newspaper reporter, "I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough."
That he would say such a thing on 9-11 suggests not just an "unrepentant terrorist," as McCain labels Ayers, but someone especially cruel, vicious and insensitive to utter such chilling words in the midst of a national tragedy.
The only problem with this account is that Ayers did not say that on Sept. 11. He said it some days earlier. It happened to appear in the New York Times on Sept. 11. Ayers’ memoir, "Fugitive Days," had been published the day before and he did a number of interviews, including with the Times, to promote the book.
McCain also told Gibson several times that Obama has dismissed any relationship with Ayers by saying he was "just a guy in the neighborhood."
"He said he was a guy in the neighborhood," McCain said. "We know that’s not true."
"He wasn’t a guy in the neighborhood," he continued a little later. "He launched his political career in his living room, in Mr. Ayers’ living room. And I don’t care about two washed-up old terrorists that are unrepentant about trying to destroy America. But I do care, and Americans should care, about his relationship with him and whether he’s being truthful and candid about it."
In the McCain campaign’s new Web ad, "Ayers," the narrator details Ayers’ violent acts as a leftist radical and points to Obama’s ties to him years later. It concludes ominously: "When Obama just says this is a guy who lives in my neighbhorhood, Americans say, ‘where’s the truth, Barack?’ Barack Obama. Too risky for America."
Obama made the "guy in my neighborhood" comment about Ayers in answer to a question about their relationship at the Democratic presidential debate, just before the Pennsylvania primary last April. He clearly tried to downplay his acquaintance with Ayers, but he did more than just breezily dismiss hum as some neighbor he barely knew.
Obama said, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis."
The McCain campaign asserts there must be more to their relationship because Obama attended a political get-together in Ayers’ home in the early 1990s, and because they served together for a few years on two nonprofit organizations in Chicago.
To McCain, these intersection connections are evidence that Obama had a closer relationship with Ayers than he will admit to and that’s he’s hiding something.
McCain raises suspicion, but he and his campaign have never said what they suspect.
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I promise not to vote for Ayers/Wright, Senator McCain. Where were they on the ticket? Oh yeah, a figment of your imagination…
How about we talk about your disastrous health care policy next…
Posted by: MIguy | October 9, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The above story is a WEAK attempt to discredit McCain’s attack on Obama’s relationship with this terorist. Even the “semantics” are questionable. Ayers’s “Get together” was actually a KICKOFF FOR THE OBAMA SENATE COMPAIGN IN IL!! CALL THIS WHAT IT IS!! ANY SELF RESPECTING AMERICAN WOULD NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH THAT TERRORIST CREEP!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Look, who cares… we all know McCain is not being honest about Ayers.
How about some articles on the economy. That’s why it is falling a part. WE ARE NOT FOCUSED.
Focus on the issues people
Posted by: we all know | October 9, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Yet another “Open Mouth – Insert Foot” moment for McCain.. It would be funny if it were not so sad.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
This was not an error by McCain, it was a lie by McCain.
McCain is a disgrace to our system of government with his lies. McCain is a scumbag, and he has no right to lie about his opponent like he is doing. He has crossed the line. Who in the hell does he think he is, the arrogant bastard. As long as McCain is going to lie I will treat him like the scum he is.
Posted by: The Unshrub | October 9, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
McCain/
Epic Fail ’08
Posted by: helloworld | October 9, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Obama’s health care plans? How can Obama as a chain smoker have the “BALLS” to present any kind of a health care plan? With the medical knowledge we have available today, people who smoke are just plain dumb!! Obama – GREAT EXAMPLE FOR AMERICA’S YOUNGSTERS!!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Reminder to John SYDNEY McCain III: “It profits a man nothing to gain the WHOLE WORLD yet suffer the loss of his soul.”
But for the White House, SYDNEY?
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
I want everyone who has the time not to focus on the economy to focus on trooper-gate…. the real story the McCain campaign is trying to drown.
Posted by: troopergate | October 9, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Sen. McCain, please tell the story about how me “Joe six Pack” is losing her retirement account!
Posted by: Terry | October 9, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
McCain is a liar and a coward who sang when his fellow prisinors did not!
Posted by: jen | October 9, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Unshrub: But how do you REALLY feel?
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
I didn’t get the open mouth insert foot moment above. I appreciate that fact that ABC news is FINALLY showing some critical pieces on Obama. Even if it had to come from an interview with McCain. I am equally happy to see McCain fighting finally. Republicans wouldn’t felt compelled to bring up Ayers/Wright/Phlager(sp?)/Rezko if Dems would quit acting like McCain is running with Bush!! The healthcare problem is only a problem when people settle for mediocre jobs. Personally I am very happy with my healthcare situation. I have made a responsible choice and PURCHASED it for myself and my son through my job. It’s a very novel idea.
Posted by: Jessica | October 9, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
THANK YOU John McCain!
Thank you for lying about Obama’s tax proposals.
Thank you for lying about your plan to kill consumer protections for health insurance companies.
Thank you for lying about Obama’s tenuous relationship with Bill Ayres.
Thank you for diverting your own campaign away from any issue that might matter to voters!
———–
Oh, in case you want to have some facts at your disposal for your next memorior, Ayres has made himself into an expert on educational reform that routinely shares panels with people of all political stripes: Democrat, Republican and Independents!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | October 9, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
The Unshrub.
Liar? Scumbag? Bastard? Since you have no inductive statements, your adjectives say much more about you than Sen. McCain. Brilliant dialog!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
McCain is obviously willing to sell his soul, but even the devil doesn’t want it. Satan has standards I guess.
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Jen-
That really wasn’t called for. I would venture to guess that you have never been a POW who was tortured and broken and far away from home. I don’t know how you can be so critical of someone in that situation. I would imagine that it wouldn’t have taken you 10 minutes before you were singing like a mockingbird. I wish you would think before spewing your hate next time.
Posted by: Jessica | October 9, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
McCain doesn’t suspect anything! He knows Obama is a loyal American,loving father and husband, and dedicated public servant. But, he will say and do anything in an effort to get more power. He doesn’t hesitate to fire up crowds of hateful people until they yell things like “terrorist” and “Kill him”. John McCain has gone from being a war hero to character assassination, all in a desperate grab at power. Shame on him. If I was on the obama secret service team I would be furious with him knowing he and Palin are putting my life in danger by stirring up his fanatics into rabid hatred.
Posted by: Matt Stratton | October 9, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Charles Keating is the only terrorist anyone cares about right now!!! It is Keating and his sidekick, McCain, who did everything in their power to deregulate the banking industry and now you are seeing the result of that deregulation. I hope all you conservative capitalists are enjoying yourselves. Hopefully, I’ll catch you all jumping out of windows soon.
Posted by: Monk | October 9, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
This whole trumped up Ayes association is so thin. How desperate can John McCain be that he follows the no nothing Sarah Palin lead instead of vice versa. This guy is a privileged punk who would have flunked out of the Naval Academy except for his father and grandfathers heritage. He was a crappy pilot and only command in the Navy was a training squadron. Now he wants us to believe because he was so cocky he got shot down that he is this brave, intelligent hero. Give me a break.
Posted by: paul m. | October 9, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Jessica
Your candidate is a lying piece of shi#
Posted by: jen | October 9, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
McCain/Palin = fascism in high heels and lipstick.
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
such a sad spectacle!
Please someone just put that old man out of his misery! make him president of a condo association in Del Boca Vista in Florida or SOMETHING!
PLEASE!
Posted by: GIGI | October 9, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
The Unshrub.
With proud supporters such as yourself,it is reason enough NOT TO VOTE FOR AN Obama-nation.
Posted by: cuznmikie | October 9, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
GiGi — what do you have against us geezers in Del Boca Vista?
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I happen to believe that your candidate is lying. I won’t go to the bottom of the barrel by calling your candidate names as you did.
It’s funny that Obama supporters (Obama media included) are MAKING UP stories of hateful remarks from McCain supporters when it’s Obama supporters are the only people to use vulgar hateful comments on this site.
Posted by: Jessica | October 9, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Ironic that Obama probably could not have received much military security clearance if he had served. Military frowns on past associations with terrorists. Yet, half the voters in this country trust him with our defense and worse – his finger on the nuclear button. The stupid deserve what they ask for – THE REST OF US, DON’T!!
McCain/Palin 08
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
My last post was in reply to Jen’s comments. Sorry I didn’t specify that.
Posted by: Jessica | October 9, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
ANY SELF RESPECTING AMERICAN WOULD NOT BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH THAT TERRORIST CREEP!!
Posted by: Temagami |
***************************************** Well, except for all the self respecting and well respected people who do spend time with him.
Do you feel the same way about the ‘terrorist’ college students from Kent State U. who were also protesting the Vietnam war and were shot in the back by our National Guard?
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 9, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
McCain should have looked at sarah and Todd Palin’s relations with Alaska Independet party, the ones that hate the American Flag. Even this year she was at their meeting, told them to keep up the good work. Read article at salon.com
Posted by: Batsy | October 9, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
So, someone who bombs government buildings is not “someone especially cruel, vicious and insensitive”. Tell that to the people of Oklahoma. And someone who knowingly associates with such a man is not too self-absorbed and naive to be president. Tell that to the American people. Keep saying it as if it’s true. And because we are in the midst of a financial crisis, we should follow Obama off the cliff of unenlightened self-interest and ignore dangers from around the world? Tell that to the Europe who suffered from appeasement and to the America that was too absorbed in it’s financial woes following the stock market crash to appreciate the gravity and danger represented by Hitler until we were plunged into world war. Why would we prefer a man with deep personal experience in world affairs and firsthand understanding of the cost of service over a man with thin slogans and dubious politics? Can we be that stupid? Yes we can! I just pray we are not! Some say Jesus was a community organizer, and he was and so much more. But so was Hitler and he was so much less. Obama was just a cheap suit and a pretty face willing to do the bidding of the unscrupulous to achieve political notoriety and to advance his own cause. Do not support this charlatan. Our country can’t afford the hit.
Posted by: hopeful | October 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
JOE V
What High School do you attend?? You didn’t make that quite as clear as your Sophomoric attitude; you and Unshrub should share some time together.
Posted by: cuznmikie | October 9, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Temagami:
I completely agree with you, but be prepared to be assaulted by the hateful Obama mob for expressing your opinion.
I hadn’t thought of your view in quite that way until you said it, but I totally agree with your point!
Posted by: Jessica | October 9, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
McCain should NOT give up on this! In fact he should bring out more things like this about Obama! We need to know about all of associates and about all of the corruption that he’s been involved in!
Posted by: carlyonsue | October 9, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
This approach to undermining Obama failed miserably in the primaries. McCain/Palin are trying to drown out the troppergate scandal which will be out for our viewing pleasure shortly. It will be the final nail in the McCain campaign. I for one am loading up the liberal 527′s with funds. It’s time to fight fire with fire. ENOUGH !!!!
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
There are no errors here. Obama has long associated himself with far left wing socialist ideologues, who bear great dislike for this country. The list includes Ayers, Alinsky, Farrakan (million man march), Flager, and Wright. Make no mistake, these are the types of people he will bring into the White House and who he will appoint as judges in our courts. You may love his rhetoric, but his associations and his record speak the real truth. By the fruits you will know the tree! You should be very afraid.
Posted by: philphat | October 9, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Wow I guess it would have been ok for any self respecting public figure to have Timothy Mcvey kick off their political career after oklahoma had he been released on an investigative technacality.
Posted by: kim | October 9, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Temagami —you guys gave us eight years of Bush/Cheney and they damn near destroyed our economy and country. Haven’t you GOPers done enough damage or do you really want McPalin to totally finish the USA off?
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Since Palin stepped into the scene, the McCain/Palin ticket has been one lie after another.
Two trashy people.
Posted by: newz4i | October 9, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Truth Matters.
Kent State is a few miles south from where I live. Protesters were ordered to leave. They not only did not leave but some stared confrontations with the guard. I do not remember exactly what happened except that either a commander or guardsman panicked and shots were fired. I cannot condemn the guard either – both groups were in the wrong.
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Yeah, and we need to know more about that black child that McCain fathered.
Posted by: samurai | October 9, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Temagami — Less than a week before Kent State, then Governor Ronald Reagan said of the spreading antiwar student protests, “If it takes a bloodbath to settle this, let’s get it over with.” Don’t take my word. Google it.
Posted by: Joe V | October 9, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Bet you didn’t know that Obama was part of the Alaskan Independence Party? An organization that wants to secede from American. Oh wait, that’s Sarah Palin’s husband. But Obama knows Joe Biden, and he debated Sarah Palin who is married to Todd Palin.
Anyway, amuse yourselves how you must. People vote their pocketbooks. McCain and Palin are reliving some bad 60′s flashback while the rest of us are living through a 21st century disaster.
Posted by: MIguy | October 9, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
So why didn’t the COWARD McCain say it to Obama’s face at the debate??? Please, John, open up your big mouth and insert your foot, AGAIN.
Posted by: Monk | October 9, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Those who support McCain/Palin are:
1. RETARDS
2. RACISTS
3. RELIGIOUS FANATICS
4. RICH
Posted by: Sanjoy Das | October 9, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
If the McCain campaign was so concerned about Ayers why didn’t they bring it up once Obama clenched the nomination in June?
Instead of doing celebrity ads in August if they were so concerned about Obama’s “associaton” with Ayers than why not do ads against Obama with Ayers then?
It’s just because McCain is behind in the polls that he is bringing Ayers up now.
Posted by: Carrie | October 9, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Temagami – well, I guess you need to include a whole bunch of republicans in your tirade as well, because they too had “ties” to Ayers. This whole thing is so stupid, and, my friend, so are you. Anything to distract from the fact that McCain’s campaign is imploding from a lack of brains.
Posted by: counting crows | October 9, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Temagami
You’re response to the Kent State incident is as appalling as the McCain/Palin attacks. Your plane is crashing, jump out and pull the rip cord.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Our financial system has gone over the cliff,we are in wars that we should not be in, our finest soldiers have been given the wrong direction and losing their lives, and McCain is talking about Ayers.
Give me a break, he has been in Washington for 26 years and is part of the problem.
He is has sunk very low. Look carefully, he is not about change, he cannot fix our problems, he is the same old Bush policies that has brought us where we are today. Wake up my friends, step back and look at the real picture. We must move forward in the right direction.
Posted by: James Harris | October 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Jessica.
Thanks. Re use of liar, scumbag and other colorful adjectives, it must be said that they are usually used by those who are not capable of presenting thoughts requiring deductive or inductive reasoning. One thing that I have noticed – when you read something off the wall and respond with “Explain or “Relate source,” most of the time the author does not nor cannot respond!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
The McCain campaign has waged a hateful & yes insidious racist campaign the past few days. Its shameful & a black mark on America’s image. Rather then merely reporting on the rhetoric, isnt it time CNN took a stand on this? Do you really want your next President to be tarnished like this? Out of common decency , call the McCain campaign on these horrific tactics & get them back on track before it gets even further out of hand!!! They are inciting an angry mob mentality that everyone is now recognizing couldl get out of control Do the right thing & call it as it is!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dee | October 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Here’s a CNN article (10/7/08) that gives more details on the Ayers/Obama relationship. I suggest you read it:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/07/obama.ayers/index.html
Posted by: BobP | October 9, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
In the circles that Obama runs in, Ayers, Dohrn, Wright and Farrakhan are respected members of the community.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I’m so glad to see a news organization calling McCain on his lies, misquotes, and taking things out of context.
By the way, Ayers’ quote “I feel we didn’t do enough” is always taken out of context and therefore given a meaning completely opposite of what he intended. He NEVER meant he wished they’d bombed more. He has explained in numerous articles that the “I feel” means “we Americans” and the “didn’t do enough” means to get out of Vietnam, protect our innocent men. Ayers was not a terrorist. He was one more Vietnam era radical protesting the war. They never intended to kill anyone.
Ayers TURNED HIMSELF IN. I’ve done quite a bit of reading on the guy, and frankly, he seems like he rehabilitated into an AMAZING man.
Why aren’t Christian-claiming Palin and McCain speaking of “redemption” and “forgiveness”? For crying out loud, Saint Paul was the sinner named “Saul” before he had a transformation. But did Jesus tell him, “sorry, dude, you can’t be one of my apostles because you did some nasty things in the past.”. NO
So all this crap, the lies and deceipt that McCain/Palin are conjuring up, not to mention the racism and hatred they are inciting, is as un-Christian as any behavior could be. EVERY accusation that comes out of their mouths could be used on themselves (dangerous… “who is John McCain???”, etc.)
Posted by: Mary Pat | October 9, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
John McCain – an American Hero’s Fall from Grace. Ready to Lie.
Its just sad to see how far he has fallen into erratic and confused lies. Truly Unamerican.
Posted by: Dave | October 9, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Look to those one hangs with to learn much about them. If it had been just one of them….okay understandable, coincidence…2, hmmmm something to think about but potentially coincidence….3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc….Okay, NOW we have a problem. You can BLOW off one poor association decision but one after another. Wright and Ayers is not just a coincidence but DANGEROUS and too much to ignore. I initially was leaning to Obama, but after learning the TRUTH about the economic issues (our friends Dodd’s, Frank, etc) and Obama’s just flat out pathetic judgement for choosing his pastor and associations, my vote it secured for Mccain. I just hope the rest of the country WAKES UP.
Posted by: seek the truth | October 9, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Lou-NH.
Please explain using some kind of rational thought!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Ask McCentury about his connections with G. Gordon Liddy……
Ask Half baked Alaska about her ties with AIP…..
Didn’t think you would
Posted by: l | October 9, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
“By the way, Ayers’ quote “I feel we didn’t do enough”
How about this one “Guilty as hell and free as a bird America is a great country”
You’re making yourself look foolish trying to justify the actions of a domestic terrorist.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
DEEper and DEEPER he goes in his own Quagmire of LIES- !
Posted by: tkforchange | October 9, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Well another one of Obama hateful friends have shown his true colors today. In a speech given to a large group of muslim clerics. Louis Farrakan called Obama “The Messiah” so I guess they are going to be dancing in the streets if he is elected. There is no where else for him to go. Community Organizer, State Senator, U.S. Senator, President, oh wait what next? “The Messiah” unbelievable, can’t wait until all of you ignorant obots lose your freedoms.
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
“Here’s a CNN article (10/7/08) that gives more details on the Ayers/Obama relationship. I suggest you read it:”
Was it written by jack cafferty or roland martin?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
So, someone who bombs government buildings is not “someone especially cruel, vicious and insensitive”. Tell that to the people of Oklahoma. And someone who knowingly associates with such a man is not too self-absorbed and naive to be president. Tell that to the American people. Keep saying it as if it’s true. And because we are in the midst of a financial crisis, we should follow Obama off the cliff of unenlightened self-interest and ignore dangers from around the world? Tell that to the Europe who suffered from appeasement and to the America that was too absorbed in it’s financial woes following the stock market crash to appreciate the gravity and danger represented by Hitler until we were plunged into world war. Why would we prefer a man with deep personal experience in world affairs and firsthand understanding of the cost of service over a man with thin slogans and dubious politics? Can we be that stupid? Yes we can! I just pray we are not! Some say Jesus was a community organizer, and he was and so much more. But so was Hitler and he was so much less. Obama was just a cheap suit and a pretty face willing to do the bidding of the unscrupulous to achieve political notoriety and to advance his own cause. Do not support this charlatan. Our country can’t afford the hit.
Hopeful, this is fantastic! I wish I had your articulate gift! God Bless You.
Posted by: DeDe | October 9, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I used to respect John McCain, but I am appalled at what a pathetic, cowardly man he has become.
If Obama’s relationship with Ayers was so important, why didn’t McCain accuse Obama to his face of “palling around with terrorists” Tuesday night? He didn’t dare, because Obama could have deftly exposed his lie and returned fire in front of millions of viewers about McCain’s links to Keating, Bonanno, Liddy, and anti-semites.
Perhaps worse, McCain’s stupid. Voters increasingly are turned off by his shameful lies about Obama — and yet McCain’s campaign is incapable of talking about anything else. All this does is keep the extreme right wing happy.
Posted by: Alex | October 9, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
What McCain is engaging in here is McCarthyism. He’s firing wild guilt by association charges at Obama that have no basis in fact. Not only is McCain wrong and desperate, it’s unconscionable that as the American economy is shaking at its roots, he chooses this smear as his main focus as a candidate for president. Shame on McCain and shame on the GOP.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | October 9, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
seek the truth.
Exactly, yes, you can excuse one bad association, as in Wright, but when you throw in Ayers, Resko, Saudi/Harvard connection, ACORN and now Kenya, a pattern of bad baggage is pretty telling!! Lack of judgement re. associations travels with Obama into the White House. DANGER HERE!! AND… when you consider adding Pelosi and Reid … FORGET IT!!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Here is a link to a factcheck on the relationship.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-is-obama-palling-around-with-terrorists/
This scenario reminds of the cold war. Remember mutually assured distruction? If McCain continues down this path then all of his questionable past alliances will come out and the American people will lose. The Republicans have had almost total conrol for the last 8 years and this country has never been in a bigger mess. The answer is simple for me.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
“He didn’t dare, because Obama could have deftly exposed his lie”
What lie? The one that is lying is your Messiah, who refuses to ever take any kind of responsibilities for his actions. He is a coward that sat in a racist church for 20 years without a peep.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
also – I read an interview where Ayers sounded mightily repentant to me. From Wikipedia:
“Chicago Magazine reported that “just before the September 11 attacks,” Richard Elrod, a city lawyer injured in the Weathermen’s Chicago “Days of Rage,” RECEIVED AN APOLOGY FROM AYERS AND DOHRN for their part in the violence. “The were remorseful,” Elrod says.
Later, regarding the oft quoted lines of “I feel we didn’t do enough”, it says,”Ayers has not denied the quotes, but he has protested the interviewer’s characterizations in a Letter to the Editor published September 15, 2001: “This is not a question of being misunderstood or ‘taken out of context’, but of DELIBERATE DISTORTION.”
In a letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribun, Ayers wrote, “I condemn all forms of terrorism – individual, group and official”. He also CONDEMNED THE SEPTEMBER 11 TERRORIST ATTACKS in that letter.
Posted by: Mary Pat | October 9, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
just want thank McCain for really showing the nation what he cares about, part of our company was just shut down, it’s Archway cookies in Ohio, I was republican, but this election I’m voting for Barack Hussein Obama, his name does not scare me, losing my job does, America needs to grow up, fast!
Posted by: So Long | October 9, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Bill Ayers has redeemed himself. He is an education reformer. A lot of us do stupid things in our youth, but we change for the better. God Bless Bill Ayers.
No one can prove he has had any personal associaton with Barak – only wild accusations
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | October 9, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
The longer McCain distracts, the lower his numbers will go.
Posted by: it's the economy | October 9, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
– You may love his rhetoric, but his associations and his record speak the real truth. By the fruits you will know the tree! You should be very afraid. –
Good point.. now, go check out the Kosovo Liberation Army web site (www.kosovoliberationarmy.com)
Those are the people who John McCain directly supported, both with funding and with arms, knowingly, willingly, and vocally on the floor of the senate. He continues his support today as evidenced in the last debate when he came right out and said it. No tenuous ‘association’ but willingly and knowingly. Then perhaps go do a little research on the Albanian American Citizen League, which continues to provide campaign funds and praise to John McCain for all he has done to support the KLA.
Then read a few books on history regarding the Iran-contra debacle. Again, John McCain knowingly and willingly subverted US laws while sitting on the advisory board of an organization which covertly funded those militants after Congress stopped doing so.
No tenuous connections, but direct and willing support to not only assist terrorists, but to circumvent the law in order to do so. Not exactly a shining example of someone who wants to be leader of this country.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
You can vote Republican or American. But you can’t vote both. Your choice.
Posted by: Dave | October 9, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
“Here is a link to a factcheck on the relationship.”
Yes obamachecker is non-partisan. And before you open your mouth, google them, so you can see for your self that they have been proven to be biased.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
The more lies the Republicans spread, the higher Obama goes in the polls. Keep up the lies!!
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 9, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
This is what and Obama moonbat sounds like, it’s hilarious, you people will wake up on November 5th wondering what in the world happened. http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Temagami
Is that all you have? The list for McCain is enough material to write a book. The point is that no one wins this war.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
“Bill Ayers has redeemed himself. He is an education reformer. A lot of us do stupid things in our youth, but we change for the better. God Bless Bill Ayers.
No one can prove he has had any personal associaton with Barak – only wild accusations”
What planet are you from? Or are you a paid obama blogger?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
John McCain is a decent man who served his country with HONOR! It is because of men like him and my father who served his country in 2 wars, with honor, I might add, that you continue to have the freedom to voice your opinions. No matter how disrespectful they are.
Posted by: DeDe | October 9, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
“The more lies the Republicans spread, the higher Obama goes in the polls. Keep up the lies!!”
Again, what lie? Just because you refuse to believe it doesn’t make it a lie.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Trooper Gate Reports Comes Out Tomorrow…. Abuse of Power fits Palin. CANT WAIT! She doomed the Republican ticket from the moment she set foot on the stage – pregnant daughter and all.
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | October 9, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
McCain looks silly saying this on yet another day of 600+ stock market loss. Our saving and retirements are at risk and he brings up the character issue in the 11th hour. Nice.
Posted by: Mavericks Gettin' Mavericky | October 9, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
And lastly, Ayers responded when asked about the past: “it’s impossible to not have lots and lots of regrets about lots and lots of things”
That sounds like a repentant person to me.
And all you people trying to skewer a Vietnam radical protester, again, COME INTO THE PRESENT. Isn’t that what your darling Palin chided Biden for in the debate, for looking backward instead of in the present and future?
For all you judge, jurors and executioners out there, AYERS HAS BECOME A RESPECTED PERSON. When Obama met him it was THIS NEW Ayers, not the other.
You people must have loved “The Scarlet Letter”.
Posted by: Mary Pat | October 9, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
McCain is losing his mind. Yesterday he said “my fellow prisoners.”
PTSD?
whatever it is, he’s losing it.
Why can’t McCain lose like a man instead of resorting to desperate lies and actions?
Posted by: Gus | October 9, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
John McCain served his country with honor. He is not acting honorable today.
Posted by: Hero | October 9, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
“Trooper Gate Reports Comes Out Tomorrow…. Abuse of Power fits Palin. CANT WAIT! She doomed the Republican ticket from the moment she set foot on the stage – pregnant daughter and all. ”
I’m happy that she fired him. I would have done the same. Ayers is a hero and so is a man that gets drunk and tasers a young boy? Where are you people from?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Sorry Mack — You have no solid proof of Obama and Ayers. Serving on a board is not proof. There were Republicans there too. We have proof of Keating and G. Gordon Liddy. Also of AIP. What say you?
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 9, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Cindy Lou.
What you said is sometimes true – BUT NOT IN THE CASE OF WILLIAM AYERS. He has recently said that he wished that “HE HAD DONE MORE!” BOMBING?? and … it isn’t just Ayers, OBAMA HAS A TRAINLOAD OF BAD ASSOCIATIONS!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
“For all you judge, jurors and executioners out there, AYERS HAS BECOME A RESPECTED PERSON. ”
Respected by whom? Other far left wing radicals?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
There is so much hate in the republican party. I can’t believe that McCain is really a member of congress. With people who are filled with so much hate and rage as this man making policy decisions for this country — no wonder the international world is sitting back laughing their $%#%$% off at the US. Then we see the McCain rallies. Citizens filled with hate and desperation. You can tell this isn’t about a democrat leading a republican in the polls — it’s about an African American leading an old grumpy white man. A man most republican would have never support had he been running against another white man who presented the same ideas/concepts as Obama. If Obama wins, he will basically destroy the sterotype that too many want to hang onto. If he loses — which will only be due to the color of his skin — he will be an example to the world — the U.S. is the most racist nation in the world! The republican will do anything, I mean anything to win. They have even begun to plant people in the audience at rallies to raise issues and act outraged at Obama. Today, an African American begged (actually begged) McCain to be more aggressive, and he was pleading to the verge of being sicking. This was such an act. McCain is selling his soul, and this man not only sold his soul — he sold his heritage. McCain and Keating, Thurman, etc… good friends –so the pot shouldn’t call the kettle black. The difference here, McCain wasn’t 8 years old.
Posted by: wyoung | October 9, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
“Sorry Mack — You have no solid proof of Obama and Ayers. ”
You’re blindly following a liar. I feel bad for you.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Could you imagine if a Republican running for any office and had a 15 year relationship with say an abortion clinic bomber and the mainstream media telling us that this would not matter, it is all in the past.
Change you can believe in.
Posted by: edword | October 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Concerned American
I could not have said it better myself. It has been my point this entire blog. This is mutually assured destruction. Bring this campaign back to the issue and let the best candidate win. This country needs a functioning President when this is over not one that leads half a nation.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Our nation is in an economic crisis that could end in a Depression. We’re bogged down in a seemingly endless war in Iraq. And all McCain can do is bash Obama.
I am independent who doesn’t want to hear about Ayers. I don’t want to hear what McCain is against. I want to hear what he’s for and how he plans to lead us out of the messes we’re in.
I dislike dirty campaigning, and I don’t care if the offender is a Democrat or a Republican. McCain is waging the filthiest, most dishonest campaign I have seen in 40 years of voting.
Posted by: Kate | October 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
the program that Obama and Ayers worked on was backed up and supported by a republican….
Posted by: mike p. | October 9, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Dede,
I thought John Mccain was a war hero too, but I’ve read so much lately and heard interviews with so many military officers that knew him. Did you realize his nickname with the other POWS was “Songbird”.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/2
What’s especially disturbing to me is that before he got shot down over Hanoi, his plane caught the aircraft carrier he was on on fire, and over 100 men on the ship were killed. Instead of helping them, he scurried below and watched them trying to save each other from the comfort of the breakroom via closed circuit TV. Then, when the cleanup and burials began, he hitched a ride to Hanoi for some R&R with a NY TIMES reporter. Paybacks are bi***, eh? too bad…maybe I could have voted for him before.
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
John McCain now thinks he was set up by…wait…not Charles Keating!!! Did you know James B. Fowler, McCain’s friend who was busted for smuggling heroin out of Thailand, is the same guy who shot Jimmie Johnson, an unarmed black man, and set off a movement that led to The Voting Rights Act? Ironic that McCain knows the guy whose killing of an unarmed black man led to the Voting Rights Act. Very Ironic.
47% of the people think McCain Won’t Make A First Term. Hence, the defections are all about Sarah Palin Doesn’t matter what he says. People think McCain’s lying about his health too, and he’ll leave us stuck with her like some very sick joke.
John McCain also seems to have paid to have others killed through the racist Council For World Affairs, of which he was a paying Board Member. “John McCain did not load and launch the explosives; John McCain supplied the explosives that killed Benjamin Linder and Sister Maureen Courtney.”
John McCain, who has risen to political prominence on his image as a Vietnam POW war hero, has, inexplicably, worked very hard to hide from the public stunning information about American prisoners in Vietnam who, unlike him, didn’t return home.” wrote Sydney H. Schanberg in The Nation. When will the press ask John McCain why he covered up information for the Pentagon about other POWs. Was that part of his release deal? John McCain does not deserve either our respect or our trust. John McCain is that old man going crazy who can’t stand the sound of people having a great time because he can’t get up and dance anymore.
Posted by: kravitz | October 9, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Oh yeah, by the way, McCain is best buds with Phil Gramm – his economic guru, remember? I seem to recall him calling this a mental recession. Have you check your 401k lately?
Divisive politics are exactly what this country does not need. We are facing, as a country, a severe economic crisis that requires unity. Those spreading messages deliberately intending on dividing the US are being counterproductive.
Posted by: MIguy | October 9, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Mccarthyism….give me a break. 20 years with a pastor who is a flippin lunatic? Scheduled to do his invocation at his presidential campaign kick off? At first it was just ‘an acquaintence…then it was ‘oh we were on a board together, then it was Oh, yeah my political career kicked off in his living room, then it was oh yeah a couple of boards for YEARS together then exchange of MONEY in sums of ten’s of thousands for community issues?’ that’s MORE than just a passing acquaintence. WAKE UP
Posted by: seek the truth | October 9, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
“The difference here, McCain wasn’t 8 years old.”
How old was Obama was he sat in Ayers’ living room and shook that scumbag’s hand?
Did he give Bernadine Dohrn a hug and kiss hello? The woman that said the following :
Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!” Dohrn also charged that her fellow left-wingers showed themselves to be scared “honkies” for not burning down Chicago when Black Panther leader Fred Hampton was killed, and urged her audience to arm themselves and be “a fighting force alongside the blacks”.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Obama was a community organizer working with ACORN, the voting fraud group, and sued banks to make loans to unqualified borrowers that now have destroyed the economy.
Obama has given ACORN $800K to register voters but in the FEC filing they lied about the payment. Not surprised that the mainstream media is not interested.
Posted by: edword | October 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Edword,
McCain had an association with a woman who admitted to killing a doctor at an abortion clinic. There is transcript of him sitting and listening to speeches commending the woman for her acts.
Don’t believe me? Research it it’s true.
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Guess what people, the economy is bad and things will probably get worse before it gets better, but it will get better eventually, we will all have to buckle down and find our way through it, but at the end of the day, when the economy turns around because it will, we have done it before and we will do it again, we will still need to have someone in office who will go to bat for this country like never before, we need someone who will show sound judgement and although these things sound little right now, when you string them all together they can become big. What’s in play here? well we have people that will be selected by the next president to run each and every Government department, this will require good judgement, these people can make or break us. We will probably have one or two judges appointed to the Supreme court, this can make or break us, we will have people appointed to high ranking Milatary positions, this can make or break us. Judgement is crucial, we can have the best economy in the world, but if we have a jacked up administration we will still lose in the end, that is why Aeyers, Wright, Khalid Mohammad and all the others are important because this all leads to a question of judgement. We have heard it a million times from our parents and older members of our family, you are judged by the company you keep. I you take each individual in America and you take 5 of their best friends and 5 of their closest acquaintances, you will find without a doubt that there is one common thread that will run through the entire group, they will have different personalities and they will come from different walks of life, but there will be that one thing that threads them all together, we are instinctively drawn to people who share most of our basic beliefs, if each of you are truly honest with yourself and you step back and take a look at the people that you call your friends and acquaintances you will see that this is 100% true. That is why this matters. You can spew hatred and you can talk trash all you want but if you have just one drop of intelligence you know that this is true.
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
You can read an advance of the TROOPERGATE ARTICLE by the NY times on the Daily Kos website. It doesn’t look good for the Palins
Posted by: Michelle | October 9, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
William Ayers HOSTED Obama’s kickoff campaign for the IL senate IN HIS HOME, DOCUMENTED!!!!!!!! DOES THIS NOT ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIPO BETWEEN THE TWO. END OF STORY!!!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Temagami & Cindy Lou
You need to read the post by Mary Pat | Oct 9, 2008 11:34:26 PM
Fact check it yourselves. Ayers has shown remorse unlike what you have been led to believe. Wikipedia is a great non-partisan source.
Posted by: Lou-NH | October 9, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
“Our nation is in an economic crisis that could end in a Depression. We’re bogged down in a seemingly endless war in Iraq. And all McCain can do is bash Obama.”
And people are pulling their money out of the market in anticipation of Obama’s proposed increase in the capital gains tax. You’re going to vote yourself out of a job.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | Oct 9, 2008 11:35:32 PM
“Bill Ayers has redeemed himself. He is an education reformer. A lot of us do stupid things in our youth, but we change for the better. God Bless Bill Ayers…….”
Really………when did he redeemed himself???
After 2001 when he made the comment “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.”
OR after Obama started to run for President???
Posted by: O-IS-A-Liar | October 9, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
“Our nation is in an economic crisis that could end in a Depression. We’re bogged down in a seemingly endless war in Iraq. And all McCain can do is bash Obama.”
NY Times has about as much credibility left as US Weakly.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Michelle.
When did the NY Times EVER write anything good about Palin? THE NY TIMES IS IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA – AND JUST ABOUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT!!!
Posted by: Temagami | October 9, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Polls show that people switch political sides less often than their religions. And ideologues on both sides seem more in thrall to symbols than substance. But for you harder-nosed realists, issues like Ayers or Palin’s latest don’t amount to chump change, while those with more than media hype on their minds know to ‘FOLLOW THE MONEY’.
So, if you want your vote to count toward a positive future, instead of what’s going on now, and also think it wise to look both ways before crossing, try ignoring your favorite talking heads for just one day, to review a few carefully vetted wikipedia articles, with their lengthy reference lists, plugging into
http://en.wikipedia.org , with
Dirt on McCain:
John McCain
Phil Gramm
Enron loophole
Aig
Credit default swaps
Basel II
Rick Davis (lobbyist)
Silver State Bank
Keating 5
Charles Keating
Jim Hensley
Carol Shepp
Dirt on Obama:
Barack Obama
Bill Ayers
Tony Rezko
Jeremiah Wright
Then decide for yourself which associations seem symbolic or substantive, tenuous or tenacious. The above is only the beginning. If you know where to look, the amount of factual info on the web is truly amazing.
Posted by: Jillian | October 9, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Oh…by the way…The head of the Alaskan Independence Party that the Palins are so intimately involved in…you know…the one…that talks about hating America?….well…that guy was killed during a deal to buy plastic explosives..
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Mack, That makes sense take out the stock while it’s 40% down to avoid the capital gains tax. Nice logic.
Posted by: wow? | October 9, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
I find it rather disgusting that there are people who are still believing everything that McCain and Palin has to say. For the past couple of days, they’ve basically incited riots at every campaign stop, but yet McCain is this great leader…
Ayers was hashed and rehashed during the Democratic primaries, along with Rezko and Rev Wright. For anyone who hasn’t heard of these names before until recently has been hiding under a rock.
Obama has addressed these issues time and again, it’s just no matter what the facts are it’ll never be good enough.
You people are the same ones who think Obama is a Muslim and his birth certificate isn’t authentic. So for you people to claim that Obama has a greater connection to Ayers than he actually does doesn’t surprise me, it’s just the hateful way that your kind of people think…
Posted by: Jennifer | October 9, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Senator McCain, you said that you would be above the fray. You said that you can bring this country together again. You said that you would help America heal. Well after seeing what I have seen on the campaign trail the past few days it doesn’t look like that. You seems to love the hatred you party has towards other Americans. Please stop what you are doing before you get a lot of people killed or murder.
Posted by: Ethel | October 9, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
McCain has nothing to lose. So, he gambles again. He is losing this big.
Posted by: Wheels on the Bus | October 9, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
For those of you stuck to this blog, you are missing the breaking news that Sarah Palin cleared herself of any wrongdoing in the ‘troopergate’ thing. It’s gotta be nice to not be accountable to anyone – she really is trying to emulate Bush/Cheney after all…
Posted by: MIguy | October 9, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
“Obama has addressed these issues time and again, it’s just no matter what the facts are it’ll never be good enough.”
Addressed? He needs to explain why he lied and said that he was just some guy from the neighborhood and that he barely knew Rezko….for 20 years. The man is a pathological liar.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
McCain is a lying creep. His smile is even creepy! I get chills when he says “my friends”. hes a scary guy that has no business trying to be president.
Posted by: Fairfax | October 9, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
How do you bring a country together again like McCain says he can do, by deeply offending half the electorate? Anger is palpable on both sides because of these attacks.
Posted by: question | October 9, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
If people don’t want to hear about Ayers how about hearing that Obama has taken the 2nd most money from the crooks at Fannie may in the last 20 years and he has only been in the Senate for 4 years.
He has taken $23 million from companies like Countrywide, Lehman and Bearn Stearns just to name a few. His senior advisor is Franklin Raines, who should be in prison. But instead he just bought a $5 million dollar NYC penthouse today.
Democrats took over Congress 2 years ago with a record stock market and record low unemployment. I am even shocked at how quickly they have been able to destroy the economy.
They would rather hold hearings on steriods in baseball then the criminal enterprise call ACORN and Fannie Mae.
They would rather hold hearings to destroy US energy companies. One of the sectors that is providing jobs but instead of drilling in the US they are letting foreign companies take those jobs.
Change you can believe in.
Posted by: edword | October 9, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Sorta funny how the people squawking about questions on Obama’s character have to resort to pointless cursing and accusations that they know to be untrue themselves.
Want to stick to the issues? McCain is on record as trying to do something about the politicians and financial industry getting too cozy. True, he lost that fight, but he fought it. Obama, meanwhile, was taking massive donations from those interests and supported those who voted McCain’s propsals down. So the meltdown is McCain’s fault?
The fact of the matter is that these seeds were laid in the Clinton administration by threatening to put banks out of business unless they made loans to people who couldn’t afford them. [PS - Obama criticizes McCain for not personally going to Osama's cave to arrest him. Who was it that was handed Osama on a plate 3 different times and declined in case it violated his rights?]
Let’s face it, the market is too complex for a bunch of politicians to “fix” it. Trillions of dollars handed out to banks, Wall Street and rum distillers and the situation keeps getting worse. If the problem was easy enough for a politician to solve, trust me, it would have been done already. Handing the economy over to a bunch of corrupt, stupid, self-serving politicians and their cronies is the worst possible recipe. Pretty soon we will be just like Russia.
Socialism hasn’t worked anywhere in the world, and millions of people have died, mostly at the hands of PC police, to prove it. For some reason milliopns of American voter is determined to ignore all that experience (eeeew, experience is for old people) and elect an avowedly Marxist President to work with a wacko socialist Nancy Pelosi (“we can’t worry about the markets, we have a planet to save here”) and Harry “the war is lost” Reid. This is what 40 years of socialist propaganda disguised as education will do for you.
Posted by: gottabesomeonebetter | October 9, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
“Mack, That makes sense take out the stock while it’s 40% down to avoid the capital gains tax. Nice logic.”
I didn’t say that everyone was pulling their money out for that reason. Although I haven’t heard anyone say that they were pulling their money out because of John McCain.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
question
outstanding good points
Posted by: seek the truth | October 9, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Mack,
You feed into my point exactly. No matter what the facts are, you’re going to have a negative dispostion about Obama regardless..
He addressed these issues in a primary debate and TV and newspaper interviews. He even held a press conference about his relationship to Rev Wright. So now a press conference isn’t good enough??
Posted by: Jennifer | October 9, 2008, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
McSame = Keating 5 = Vile Bush Policies
McSame = Deregulation
McSame = Open ended Iraq war
McSame = 300 billion that rewards banks
McSame = Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
McSame = Cigarette exports to Iran, ‘That is one way of killing them’. quote from McIdiot.
McSame = Palin choice(unvetted and unqualified)
McSame = Pool class records at the Navy academy
McSame = For immigration reform then against.
McSame = whoring around when he was a young cadet. The christian right of course overlooks this.
McSame = Incorrectly states countries that don’t exist
McSame = Against drilling then for it. Still not for it in ANWAR. Point of contention with Palin.
McSame = Bitter and VERY old that is running a very dishonorable campaign that is full of lies.
Posted by: truthbetold | October 9, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
You dumb asses – Ayers hosted a dinner fundraiser for Alice Parker — not Obama. That’s how far the lies have gotten out of hand. The Republicans (Palin) don’t even know what the truth is.
Also, if he is so bad, why did Ayers go to jail — like Keating?
TrooperGate will shut their mouths once and for all!
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | October 9, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Come now people, is this guy Ayers running for president?. It’s so appalling that some sections of Americans would buy into this stupid attacks. Wow!!! I thought Americans are more sophisticated voters who would deal with issues instead of the trash been spewed by the self styled MR. MAVERICK McCAIN and this tweeter Sara Palin.
Posted by: Martin | October 9, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Is it possible that McCain and Palin are trying to incite hatred that would cause someone to kill Obama?
Are they desperate enough to do that in order to win?
Posted by: Dee | October 9, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
WHAT THE F***??
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, McCain campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.
Nice try you idiot with lipstick!!! Hey if I get arrested for something, can I just get my brother to make up a “report” for the judge and then expect to get off??
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!! WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
THE BOMBS START DROPPING ON THE PALIN/McCAIN CAMPAIGN TOMORROW!!!!!!!
By Monday they will both be TOAST!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
edword
Awesome!
Posted by: seek the truth | October 9, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Let him whom is without sin cast the first stone. When making an accusation make sure you have the proof to back it up. I would love to meet the perfect person the only one I have ever heard about is God, Jesus and His mother Mary.
Posted by: Rose Szymanskir | October 9, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Polls show that people switch political sides less often than their religions. And ideologues on both sides seem more in thrall to symbols than substance. But for you harder-nosed realists, issues like Ayers or Palin’s latest don’t amount to chump change, while those with more than media hype on their minds know to ‘FOLLOW THE MONEY’.
So, if you want your vote to count toward a positive future, instead of what’s going on now, and also think it wise to look both ways before crossing, try ignoring your favorite talking heads for just one day, to review a few carefully vetted wikipedia articles, with their lengthy reference lists, plugging into
http://en.wikipedia.org , with
Dirt on McCain:
John McCain
Phil Gramm
Enron loophole
Aig
Credit default swaps
Basel II
Rick Davis (lobbyist)
Silver State Bank
Keating 5
Charles Keating
Jim Hensley
Carol Shepp
Dirt on Obama:
Barack Obama
Bill Ayers
Tony Rezko
Jeremiah Wright
Then decide for yourself which associations seem symbolic or substantive, tenuous or tenacious. The above is only the beginning. If you know where to look, the amount of factual info on the web is truly amazing.
Posted by: Jillian | October 9, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
“He addressed these issues in a primary debate and TV and newspaper interviews. He even held a press conference about his relationship to Rev Wright. So now a press conference isn’t good enough?? ”
In a word no. He only left that church because he was forced to, otherwise his mentor Wright would still be a part of his campaign. I know that he stayed in the church out of political expediency, but he needs to be held accountable for his actions and doesn’t deserve to be President of our nation. He gambled and lost.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
you people are worthless, now wonder you are voting for a empty suit thug, even when they come into your houses and drag you off at night you will still be blaming everyone and anyone but he annointed one for making it happen. I feel sorry for your ignorant souls, most of which are probably still living off of mommy and daddy’s money anyway and have no clue about responsibility.
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
McCain still has lobbyists in his campaign… They all took money. McCain too. Betcha!
Besides, he’s too old and senile to be president. I would hate for Palin to meet with foreign dignitaries and heads of state talking “Betcha and Joe 6-Pack. Where did she attend College. Certainly not Harvard or Princeton like the Obamas.
She is an uneducated tramp with brat children. What an embarrassment!
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 9, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Poor Jennifer, did the Kool-aid taste good?
FACT: Obama hasn’t really addressed the issue. He has obfuscated and revised his story each time he comments on his Ayers connection. I actually think is connection goes all the way back to 1988 when Michelle worked with Ayers wife, Bernadine Dorhn.
Jennifer, please look up the Cloward-Piven Strategy. Start there if you dare.
Obama’s cronies all use the same ad agency.
http://www.gmmb.com/political/
Posted by: TxTeaParty | October 9, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
“I feel sorry for your ignorant souls, most of which are probably still living off of mommy and daddy’s money anyway and have no clue about responsibility.”
That has to be it because they have no concept of reality. They think that we can all live on hope and change with no need for a job or money. We’ll all live off of tree sap and pine nuts.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
And what nefarious relationship doesn McCain have with G Gordon Liddy the convicted felon and Nixon-era anti-american thug? Liddy have a fundraiser for McCain and the two claim to be great friends.
Oh, thats right, the media wont cover that.
Posted by: bubba | October 9, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Now, Now Deena:
Sarah Palin is too educated. She went to 5 different colleges in 4 years doggonit. Betcha she did!
Wonder why she never released her transcripts. LOL
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | October 9, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Lol, the repugnants are in scare mode. McCain is losing his marbles! Look at all the repugs scurrying like crazy to make Obama out to be evil. A depression isnt all your gonna have to worry about if McCain gets elected you idiots. Losing your job is nothng compared to losing your life. Money must be all you care about, but we will see…
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 9, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Yeah, I guess I missed the part where Ayers said, “OK, I don’t regret setting off bombs and committing armed robbery and stuff, but I do regret for that coming out on 9-11…shucks, what a tragedy.”
Actually he was going, “Airliners as bombs? Why didn’t WE think of that?!”
And, thanks to the poster above for making me rich because I’m a McCain supporter…daaaaannng…didn’t know that’s all it took!
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 9, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
“Sarah Palin is too educated. She went to 5 different colleges in 4 years doggonit. Betcha she did!
Wonder why she never released her transcripts. LOL”
Speaking of transcripts, where are Barry’s?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
you wanna see what’s funny, you obots are a riot.http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Why does sarah palin support the Iranian-backed AIP? Why did her husband join the group?
Normally Iran sponsors groups like Hezbollah so why would Palin have a relationship with a group that Iran supports?
Iran asked the group to come speak to the UN in 1992 (to bash the US, whom the AIP hates).
Posted by: red | October 9, 2008, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Kim, Thug is just a euphemism. The rest of us aren’t stupid or living off of our parents. We’re just tired of the politics of divisiveness that you practice. Oh, and we’re also worried about our savings and retirement accounts. In short, we could care less about these distractions and will elect Barack Obama.
Posted by: debate is ok | October 9, 2008, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Grand Old party, Nah it doesnt take being rich to be a McCain supporter. It just takes being a brainless moron like yourself. There are plenty of poor idiots, who are supporting the wealthy old racist. You are evidence of stupidity at its finest!
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 9, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Obama’s transcripts from Harvard Law School were made public in 2005. Check it out before you speak please. Don’t disrespect the next president – Obama . Thank You.
McCain is talking nonsense while the Stock Market crashes. Yea, we trust a man like that – who dishes out wild accussations without an ounce of proof.
McCain is toast. Look at the polls.
8 years of Republican rule is enough
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who | October 9, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
This story, if you read it and understand it, confirms McCain’s statements. Ayers clearly was influential with Obama. It shows that Obama is easily taken by those around him. It does not bode well for his Presidency. Frankly, I don’t think McCain can overcome him, so the American public better hope that the right people end up around Obama. If not, there will be hella public outcry. Prepare for the worst.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | October 9, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Obama continued to praise Wright in July 2007 even after Wright said our chickens came home to roost on 9/11.
This showed terrible judgement to use a speech praising wright after Obama knew he said our chickens came home to roost on 9/11.
Posted by: Dan | October 9, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
edword
Awesome!
Posted by: seek the truth | Oct 10, 2008 12:03:57 AM
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Not sure what you find “awesome” in edword’s tissue of lies, “seek the truth”.
Those of us who actually read the news, rather than relying on Hannity, Beck or Limbaugh for our information, see clear evidence of an unhinged, paranoid mind in “Edword’s” claims .
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Edword = the desperate, wheezing last gasps of McCain’s dying campaign.
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
“McCain is toast. Look at the polls.”
If polls were that accurate then Gore would have been elected. 2 weeks ago McCain was ahead and in 2 weeks he’ll be ahead again.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
The Republican are desperate. They are throwing out every thing — including the kitchen sink trying to put Barak in a bad light. It won’t work. Hillary tried that already, remember. All it got her was a sideline seat. TeeHee
Now TrooperGate and AIP will shut them down for good.
Posted by: Deena Rockefeller | October 9, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
McCain is desperate, and it’s sad to watch him stoop to this pathetic drivel.
What about Iraq, Afghanistan, the Economy, Russia, Energy independence, health care????
We need a forward-looking leader. Not a gossip running around whispering about Ayers while the stock market drops 600pts. Pathetic.
Posted by: mgks | October 9, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
“Frankly, I don’t think McCain can overcome him, ”
Probably not when you have ACORN registering the dead around the country.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
– FACT: Obama hasn’t really addressed the issue. He has obfuscated and revised his story each time he comments on his Ayers connection. I actually think is connection goes all the way back to 1988 when Michelle worked with Ayers wife, Bernadine Dorhn. –
It was Sen. Clinton who first hinted at the connection in the Phil. debate. When asked to respond to the relationship, the GOP took a segment of his response; “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and ran with that, claiming that there was more and that he was somehow hiding it.
The full response was:
“OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.
The fact is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.
Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those, either.
So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.”
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
hey debate is ok-your bed, lie in it, just take responsibility in the end, look directly in the mirror and blame the person looking back at you when it all goes south.
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
THE TROOPERGATE BOMBS START DROPPING ON THE PALIN/McCAIN CAMPAIGN TOMORROW!!!!!!!
And the NEWS is NOT GOOD -Impeachable offenses!!
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548955.html
By Monday they will both be TOAST!!!!
Keep talking about Ayers tonight Republicans, because after tonight the TROOPERGATE REPORT will be the ALL over the news for the next two weeks until the election!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Oct 10, 2008 12:17:29 AM
I’ve read some of your posts in the past. While I generally don’t agree with your political views, I never pegged you as a crank.
All your Ayers talk leads me to revise that opinion.
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The same logic that ties Obama to Ayers, could be used to tie McCain to Vietnamese Communists. After all, McCain did return to Vietnam in the ‘Eighties”, forgave his captors, and made peace with “the enemy”. So, because he worked with Vietnamese Communists in the ‘Eighties is McCain now a ‘Commie?
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Jessica, what nobody is telling the public is, McCain has done a lot of shady things. Obama’s campaign is holding off because of Obama. There are nasty things out there about McCain. You think if there were some corrupt dealings by Obama the McCain campaign will spare him an inch? No, not with the desperation that camp is in right now.
Posted by: Martin | October 9, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Kim – I see all the Bush voters doing that now as the country struggles.
I have no problem with responsibility.
Posted by: debate is ok | October 9, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
WestCoastMoron, We have already had the worst, and he is McCains buddy King G. W. Bush. You are at least consistently idiotic in your posts, I will give you that. McCain is the wrong choice for America, even though you cannot see that, because you are blinded with racism. Obama isnt perfect, and he may not be the very best choice for president, but he is WAY better than McCain and that total Imbecile Palin. McCain will die in office and leave that nincompoop in charge of our country? I dont think so. She makes Dan Quayle look like a genius!
Posted by: grumpybumpy | October 9, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Look its simple, even the McCain campaign said “If we talk about the economy we’ll lose”.
Theyre so desperate now its funny. I cant wait to see them run around like headless chickens when he Troopergate report is released.
John McChicken
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Desperation brings out the worst in these Republicraps! McCain’s/Failin 08!!
Posted by: SemperFi | October 9, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
debate is ok-as they should be!! to bad it’s getting ready to happen all over again. Guess some people are a glutten for punishment. Bush was also supposed to be Mr. Change and Hope!!
Posted by: Kim | October 9, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
TO Jillian,
Obama’s list is a little longer that what you provided for research. I have updated it.
1. Father – Communist activist
2. Mother – Communist symphasizer
3. Brother(Roy) – Luo activist, militant muslim, marxist
4. Raila Odinga – Luo activist, militant muslim, marxist
5. Frank Marshall Davis – Communist mentor, CPUSA
6. Bill Ayers – American terrorist, marxist
7. Bernadine Dohrn – Wife of Bill, American terrorist, marxist
8. Rev. Wright – Racist, anti-american, marxist
9. Father Pfleger – Race baiter, marxist
10. Louis Farrakhan – Racist, anti-semite, marxist
11. Rev. James Meeks – Racist, marxist
12. Alice Palmer – Communist senator, World Peace Council
13. Robert Malley – Anti-semite, talked with Hamas terrorists
14. ACORN – Socialist organization, voter fraud
15. Democratic Socialists of America – Socialist organization
16. Bernie Sanders – Closet communist senator of Vermont
17. Endorsed by Communist Party USA
18. Endorsed by Chicago Young Communists Leauge
19. Endorsed by Marxists/Communists/Socialists for Obama
20. Endorsed by Across the Atlantic – Party of Europes socialists
21. Endorsed by Hamas terrorist group
22. Tony Rezko – Convicted felon
23. Emil Jones Jr. – Proven fraudulent Illinois senate president
24. Rashid Khalidi – Palestinian scholar, anti-semite
25. James Johnson – Fraudulent Fannie Mae CEO
26. Michelle Obama – Marxist, race baiter, Public Allies director
BTW – this article below could be a huge bomb in the Obama campaign tomorrow. Trying to interfere in a war. I think that is considered Treason.
WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq… Developing…
Posted by: TxTeaParty | October 9, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
TxTeaParty.. the vast majority of your ‘list’ is covered on snopes and politifacts.. good try though, but we already been there and done that.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
“Grand Old party, Nah it doesnt take being rich to be a McCain supporter. It just takes being a brainless moron like yourself. There are plenty of poor idiots, who are supporting the wealthy old racist. You are evidence of stupidity at its finest!”
Sounds like you’re disagreeing with your slimy Liberal bud above then, Grumpy Commie Dude or whatever your handle is…either that or you two are actually the same ObamaTrollBot.
Yes, Obama is just so down with the poor folk. He wouldn’t let you wipe his arse if his hands were broken…because you are far beneath his educational level and his superior intellect.
The racist thing…Yeah, you’re right…let’s mess up the economy of a country of 300 million so minorities can move into homes they can’t afford. But I’m glad you’re such an enlightened non-racist, because, after all, you’re helping to pay for it, too. Nice to see Liberals put their money (or other people’s-same thing to you I guess) where their big mouths are-and a good thing, too because that big mouth of yours needs to hold a trillion bucks.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 9, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
All of you folks complaining about Ayers are barking up the wrong tree.
If you have a complaint about Obama’s working association with Ayers, you should take it up with the Annenerg Foundation, which sponsored him, or the University of Illinois at Chicago, which has hired him as a Professor of Education.
Obama met Ayers while Ayers was a Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Both met when they were appointed co-chairman, among several others (including Republicans) to work on the Board of one of Annenberg’s programs in Chicago.
So, Obama worked with Ayers in his capacity as an employee of Annenberg, one of the most respected and reputable non-partisan foundations in the United States.
Annenberg Foundation
http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/
University of Illinois, Chicago
http://education.uic.edu/
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
All of you folks complaining about Ayers are barking up the wrong tree.
If you have a complaint about Obama’s working association with Ayers, you should take it up with the Annenerg Foundation, which sponsored him, or the University of Illinois at Chicago, which has hired him as a Professor of Education.
Obama met Ayers while Ayers was a Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Both met when they were appointed co-chairman, among several others (including Republicans) to work on the Board of one of Annenberg’s programs in Chicago.
So, Obama worked with Ayers in his capacity as an employee of Annenberg, one of the most respected and reputable non-partisan foundations in the United States.
Annenberg Foundation
http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/
University of Illinois, Chicago
http://education.uic.edu/
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
“Bush was also supposed to be Mr. Change and Hope!!”
From the frying pan into the fire. From the far-right to the far-left. Is someone closer to the center too much to ask for?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Since we are bringing up the past. John McCain (Arizona senator) voted against making MLK a national holiday in Arizona. But he stated in a recent interview he was wrong and has changed his opinion. Is that a flip or flop? It would be if Obama done it.
Honestly, when they announced Sarah as the running mate…I said the republicans are giving it away. Everyday, I say it more and more.
Unless McCain pulls a 2000 Bush election, he is history.
I am a woman and cannot see Sarah as my president…even staunch republicans are shaking their heads…and for the record I WAS a republican but I am definitely voting for Obama.
HELLOOOOO….? Saddam Hussein was our friend at one time and we killed him for….uh those Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found.
So talk about lying? The republicans ALWAYS use fear to get their agenda done.
I love hearing McCain say it’s time for a change. I guess Obama didn’t have time to get that slogan copyrighted because I heard it first from Obama.
Good grief McCain, it’s hilarious to see what you will do next.
Posted by: jahree2 | October 9, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
AAUURRRGGGG! This drives me totally nuts. In case McCain has forgotten it’s 2008! NOT 1968! William Charles “Bill” Ayers is a very well respected member of his community in Chicago! He is an elementary education theorist and former, leading 1960s anti-war activist. He was a member of the S.D.S. in the late ’60s and one of the founders of the Weather Underground, a group of radical activists that protestedviolently against the War in Viet Nam. I was a teenager and young adult during those days. I know how it was back then when people really stood up for what they believed in no matter what the consequences. People today have not seen that kind of passionate demonstrations of huge numbers like in the ’60s and ’70s. People today are not willing to do the same. BUT – that was then this is NOW! Bill Ayers works in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. He is no longer a member of the Weather Underground – it no longer exists! It went extinct a long time ago. The F.B.I.also dropped all charges against him a long time ago. He is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the title of Distinguished Professor. Get your facts straight, McCain! Stop promoting the grotesque lies. Barack Obama and Bill Ayers have done more good for the people of Chicago than most people do for their communities in their lifetimes. Check out the FACTS at FactCheck.org. FACTS equal the TRUTH which is the foundation for your INTEGRITY! Do you know even what real integrity is Mr. McCain? From where I sit that is very, very doubtful.
Posted by: Wendy Powers | October 9, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
TxTeaParty, Typical liar. Typical Texan. You are really stretching on that list. Haha What a loser. Get used to saying President Barack H. Obama. I think it will grow on you. We will send your boy W. packin for home soon, you can have him back now that hes broken.
Posted by: JJ | October 9, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Treason?
You mean treason as in belonging to a secessionist party that hates America and wants their state to become an anarchist republic?….like Todd Palin?
You mean treason like willingly making 30 or so propaganda tapes for the enemy like John McCain? So willingly he was called “Songbird” by the vietnamese.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Hey txteaparty.. care to discuss the us council for world freedom or their parent organization the world anti-communist league, their founders and what they have supported?
don’t worry, i don’t expect a response.. wouldn’t want to bring up those and many other skeletons in macs closet, would we?
Posted by: sammy | October 9, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
McCain and Palin can’t say a damn thing about Obama. It’s like the pot calling the kettle black.
All of them have skeleton in the closest. Some more than others. No one is completely innocent of wrong doing. Ayers, Keating, AIP, Liddy, Wright, Bush and Rezko are all bad people to be associated with.
Meanwhile, the stock market is crashing – you morons.
Posted by: Fannie Mae Green | October 9, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Think its about time to kick some conservative butt. Bout had enough of the nazis. They wanna call us commies, so we will call them nazis. Maybe we need a little commie vs. nazi war.
Posted by: SemperFi | October 9, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Senator McCain is the guy who got away with anything and everything and can’t bear to see the presidency slipping away from him so he’ll say anything, allow his partisan followers to say anything, and do as much damage to his competitor as possible. He has no conscience. He left it behind years and years ago. God help us if we have another boy for president who is trying to prove he is better than his dad.
Posted by: Mary | October 9, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
“The F.B.I.also dropped all charges against him a long time ago.”
Tell the whole story, no matter how hard it may be for you. He got off on a technicality and then made the following statement:
Guilty as hell and free as a bird! America is a great country!”
You apologists make me ill.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
One thing is good though: lucky McCain wasnt already president and had bet all the social security funds on the stock market like he WANTS TO DO.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
John mcCain a man who once had an abundant of respect from the people.. is slowly climbing into the TOILET.
As independent thats very sad to see.
When he pick palin i was off that bandwagon,now all this gutter politics plus the economy, really have me depress and i know i am not the only one.
Posted by: alice | October 9, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Why does sarah palin support the Iranian-backed AIP? Why did her husband join the group?
Normally Iran sponsors groups like Hezbollah so why would Palin have a relationship with a group that Iran supports?
Iran asked the group to come speak to the UN in 1992 (to bash the US, whom the AIP hates).
Posted by: bubba | October 9, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
Most of us don’t care about Ayers, a rotten person from the PAST.
The problem with McCain AND Obama is all they can seem to talk about is the past and/or how bad the “other guy” is.
We need a solution to our failing economy; we are headed into a possible depression and all these two guys can do is insult each other.
Posted by: Rhys | October 9, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
“One thing is good though: lucky McCain wasnt already president and had bet all the social security funds on the stock market like he WANTS TO DO.”
Talking about liars. You learned well from that one.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Hey–GOP’s out there: What would Jesus do?
Love and compassion, eh? hmm.
Christians acting like the angry, torch carrying mob, where have I seen this before?
Get over yourselves. Didn’t your parents teach to to lose gracefully?
Posted by: Knight | October 9, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Everyone needs to watch The McCain-Palin Mob on U tube
Posted by: Kathy | October 9, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Everyone needs to watch The McCain-Palin Mob on U tube
Posted by: Kathy | October 9, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Everyone needs to watch The McCain-Palin Mob on U tube
Posted by: Kathy | October 9, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
I see I struck a nerve with all those Astroturfers from HuffPo.
Obama is a member – New Party Socialist Organization
http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html
Posted by: TxTeaParty | October 9, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Boy Howdy liberals – check this out…McCain’s S*** gets deeper and deeper.
Lesnik and other observers point, for example, to McCain and his supporter’s affiliations with long-time anti-Castro activists like Roberto Martin Perez. Perez, a member of numerous Cuban exile groups who appears in a recent McCain campaign ad, is one of the chief sponsors of a campaign to free Eduardo Arocena, the Cuban exile leader of the alleged terrorist group, Omega 7. Arocena was convicted on 25 counts and is serving a mandatory life sentence for his role in several terrorist incidents including 32 bombings and 2 politically-motivated murders. In his summary of the Omega 7 case, New York Appeals Court Judge Lombard declared, “From 1975 to 1982, Omega 7 conducted a series of bombings in the New York metropolitan area that injured bystanders and damaged homes, businesses, and a church. The bombsites included Avery Fisher Hall, Madison Square Garden, JFK Airport, the ticket office of Aeroflot (the Soviet airline), and the Cuban Mission to the United Nations.” Arocena supporter Perez was recently seen hugging the GOP presidential candidate at a recent campaign event. In addition to Perez, supporters of Arocena, whose victims include Eulalio José Negrin, a New Jersey man who died in his 13 year-old son’s arms, include one of John McCain’s closest allies, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman. As recently as last July, Lieberman promised Arocena’s wife that “I will carry it [the pardon request] back. I will carry it back. Yeah. I feel…I think of you like you were my family.”
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
“Everyone needs to watch The McCain-Palin Mob on U tube”
Right after I’m done watching the Obama youth marching around in their fatigues and pledging their allegiance to the one. Nation of Obama?
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
We need a solution to our failing economy; we are headed into a possible depression and all these two guys can do is insult each other.
Posted by: Rhys | Oct 10, 2008 12:45:10 AM
_______________________________________
I think Barack do want to stick to the ISSUES but McCain wants to take it to the gutter, as a voter that should be red flags to all you need to know; and we cant fault Barack to want to defend himself.
but i do understand where you coming from.
Posted by: cris | October 9, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
“Obama is a member – New Party Socialist Organization”
That’s where all of this is heading, to socialism.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
I wonder what Todd Palin gets in return for taking the fall in Troopergate? Maybe he was promised he could be president of Alaska or something….
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
TxTeaParty..
wow your link looks really….archaic?
Question though -was the New Party secessionist? (and did their leader get killed by plastic explosives during an arms deal gone bad…a month after Waco)…(SEE AIP/PALIN).
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
“I think Barack do want to stick to the ISSUES but McCain wants to take it to the gutter,”
I live in a swing state( where Obama is spending some of the 29 million that he blows each week) and have been bombarded with Attack ads from Obama on TV and radio for 3 weeks, so please give me a break.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Does anyone know what Todd Palin meant when he spoke of “Alaskan families” vs “American families” in an interview???
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Funny how radical organizations like the Alaskan Independent Party is just soooo repugnant to the Libs all of a sudden. After all the negativity the Left and many Republicans have heaped upon Alaska, I can’t blame them for wanting to secede.
Bill Ayers wasn’t just some hippie out there shooting his mouth off about “Imperialist America” and Vietnam, but someone involved with crimes. How would you Leftist knuckleheads gloss over his record if was wearing a white robe and burning crosses in civil rights workers yards?
Keating was a Democrat and a scumbag (starting to wonder if the two are mutually exclusive). The Obama drones would prefer to bury him but his tenuous relationship to McCain is about all they have left to grasp at. Even with a Dem-controlled committee running things, they ended up exonerating McCain because they had nothing. They strung him along because it was embarrassing to have 4 Dems alone getting their just deserts.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 9, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
THE TROOPERGATE BOMBS START DROPPING ON THE PALIN/McCAIN CAMPAIGN TOMORROW!!!!!!!
And the NEWS is NOT GOOD -Impeachable offenses!!
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548955.html
By Monday they will both be TOAST!!!!
Keep talking about Ayers tonight Republicans, because after tonight the TROOPERGATE REPORT will be the ALL over the news for the next two weeks until the election!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
“Does anyone know what Todd Palin meant when he spoke of “Alaskan families” vs “American families” in an interview???”
I’m not sure but I wouldn’t mind if he ran you over with his snow machine.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
osted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 12:46:12 AM
But McCain DOES want to privatize Social Security:
“When it comes to Social Security, Sen. McCain is a longtime supporter of private accounts, in which younger workers could divert a portion of their payroll taxes into personal accounts that would be invested in the market…y.”
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Funny how radical organizations like the Alaskan Independent Party is just soooo repugnant to the Libs all of a sudden. After all the negativity the Left and many Republicans have heaped upon Alaska, I can’t blame them for wanting to secede.
Bill Ayers wasn’t just some hippie out there shooting his mouth off about “Imperialist America” and Vietnam, but someone involved with crimes. How would you Leftist knuckleheads gloss over his record if was wearing a white robe and burning crosses in civil rights workers yards?
Keating was a Democrat and a scumbag (starting to wonder if the two are mutually exclusive). The Obama drones would prefer to bury him but his tenuous relationship to McCain is about all they have left to grasp at. Even with a Dem-controlled committee running things, they ended up exonerating McCain because they had nothing. They strung him along because it was embarrassing to have 4 Dems alone getting their just deserts.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
“Keep talking about Ayers tonight Republicans, because after tonight the TROOPERGATE REPORT will be the ALL over the news for the next two weeks until the election!!!!”
I would have fired the drunk too. Tasering a young kid is inexcusable.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
osted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 12:46:12 AM
But McCain DOES want to privatize Social Security:
“When it comes to Social Security, Sen. McCain is a longtime supporter of private accounts, in which younger workers could divert a portion of their payroll taxes into personal accounts that would be invested in the market…
From Wall Street Journal
http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122204378523361477.html.“
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Ayers turned himself in, was cleared of all charges in the 70′s, and is now a distinguised professor. He works on educational initiatives in Chicago (and no, they aren’t trying to get kindergarteners to have sex).
John McCain, however, has direct ties and close personal relationship to right-wing radical and convicted felon Gordon Liddy, whom McCain praises for being a great and patriotic American.
As Media Matters for America has noted, Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.
Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.)
During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May.
An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.”
During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”
Liddy called for the murder of federal agents, served time in jail, plotted murder – and after that, John McCain applauded him and took his money.
McCain – a new Nixon for 2008.
Posted by: MCS | October 9, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Hey Grand Old Party…
Keating is just the beginning.
Lesnik and other observers point, for example, to McCain and his supporter’s affiliations with long-time anti-Castro activists like Roberto Martin Perez. Perez, a member of numerous Cuban exile groups who appears in a recent McCain campaign ad, is one of the chief sponsors of a campaign to free Eduardo Arocena, the Cuban exile leader of the alleged terrorist group, Omega 7. Arocena was convicted on 25 counts and is serving a mandatory life sentence for his role in several terrorist incidents including 32 bombings and 2 politically-motivated murders. In his summary of the Omega 7 case, New York Appeals Court Judge Lombard declared, “From 1975 to 1982, Omega 7 conducted a series of bombings in the New York metropolitan area that injured bystanders and damaged homes, businesses, and a church. The bombsites included Avery Fisher Hall, Madison Square Garden, JFK Airport, the ticket office of Aeroflot (the Soviet airline), and the Cuban Mission to the United Nations.” Arocena supporter Perez was recently seen hugging the GOP presidential candidate at a recent campaign event. In addition to Perez, supporters of Arocena, whose victims include Eulalio José Negrin, a New Jersey man who died in his 13 year-old son’s arms, include one of John McCain’s closest allies, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman. As recently as last July, Lieberman promised Arocena’s wife that “I will carry it [the pardon request] back. I will carry it back. Yeah. I feel…I think of you like you were my family.”
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Please, John McCain KNEW what he was doing was illegal and improper.
“Senator McCain knew the facts, because we had briefed him. He knew this was a criminal enterprise. He knew that was beeing done was improper.”
http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
The verdict was that McCain was the ONLY ONE of the “Keating five” who had benefitted both personally and politically.O
John McCain – a dirty corrupt politician.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
osted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 12:46:12 AM
But McCain DOES want to privatize Social Security:
“When it comes to Social Security, Sen. McCain is a longtime supporter of private accounts, in which younger workers could divert a portion of their payroll taxes into personal accounts that would be invested in the market…
From Wall Street Journal
http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122204378523361477.html.“
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?…..think about it.
Would the country’s collective point of view be different?
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including
a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while
he was still married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Se nators accused of corruption
in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings
and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
disc ipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money from beer distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would b e as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qua lities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in
another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background:
Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Acade my – Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism
Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.
Posted by: richardcranium1 | October 9, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Nothing is more important than knowing whether a candidate will work for us or for our enemies. That’s why we must question Obama’s numerous and close associations with people who hate the U.S. and seek to destroy it.
And we must question Obama’s links not only to home-grown Marxists and terrorists but also with foreign Marxists, such as his Kenyan relative Odinga.
Obama used his elected office—and taxpayers’ dollars—to support Kenya’s Raila Odinga, self touted as “Your Agent for Change,” a violent and dangerous man who made a pact with the Muslims to institute sharia (Islamic law). Odinga’s followers killed 750 people and burned a Christian church with 50 people, many of them children, inside.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c30_1223478281
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4353
Posted by: Antonio Sosa | October 9, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq… Developing…
Posted by: TxTeaParty | Oct 10, 2008 12:31:17 AM
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thats very good, it shows boy genius is already on the job before day one , and to think many was worried if he was ready .
he is a Senator abroad and is allowed to give his 2 cents on what the senate might do after a new president take over.
Go ask any political science PROF,No silly cry of treason here , he was well within his rights as a member of congress.
BTW this is old news .
Posted by: sam | October 9, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
“Ayers turned himself in, was cleared of all charges in the 70′s, and is now a distinguised professor.”
“Guilty as hell and free as a bird, America is a great country! – Obama’s gloating terrorist buddy, Bill Ayers.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
osted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 12:46:12 AM
But McCain DOES want to privatize Social Security:
“When it comes to Social Security, Sen. McCain is a longtime supporter of private accounts, in which younger workers could divert a portion of their payroll taxes into personal accounts that would be invested in the market…
From Wall Street Journal
http://www.wsj.com/article/SB122204378523361477.html.“
Posted by: m@chiavelli | October 9, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
“Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices in
the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. ”
Bush graduated from Harvard too. Pfffffttt
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
These comments to discredit Obama only serve raise ddoubt about his own credibility.
Posted by: barbaram | October 9, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Wow….see we could keep at this all night…a couple of choir boys we don’t have…
problem is…the country’s tankin’ and people want change….and they want calm cool collected and smart…and willing to listen to experience and intelligence.
Obama/Biden
Posted by: karen | October 9, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
John McCain has crows about his support from Annenberg who was an Ambassador in the Reagan Administration.
This same Annenberg actually sponsors the Education Board on which Obama & Ayers served.
If Obama pals around with terrorists; McCain pals around with people who sponsor terrrorism or terrorists!!! Also what about all the students (past & present) of Ayers?? Are they all terrorists now!!! Is UIC a Madrassa!!!
Posted by: Jack Smith | October 9, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Obama used his elected office—and taxpayers’ dollars—to support Kenya’s Raila Odinga
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Oh PLEASE!! Who cares thats Africa affairs.have nothing to do with us or the elections .
many would say the CHENEY/bush/mccain entice the georgian president to tick off the Russian, So some form of conflict can arise which may help McCain cause.
of course It didn’t work.. and the russians deliver a beat down.
Posted by: henry | October 9, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
“problem is…the country’s tankin’ and people want change”
What change? What is he going to change? What has he changed in the past. Please post some examples. He is a slick Harvard educated Lawyer, that has conned the desperate and the feeble minded.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
“Bush graduated from Harvard too. Pfffffttt”
Yeah but Bush is an idiot.
So is the fatal cancer Palin.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
“If Obama pals around with terrorists”
Hamas supports Obama in this election. Enough said.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
“Hamas supports Obama in this election. Enough said.”
Stop dwelling in the past Mack, Hamas said later that McCain and Obama would be just as bad.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
“Hamas does not differentiate between the two presidential candidates, Obama and Mccain, because their policies regarding the Arab-Israel conflict are the same and are hostile to us, therefore we do have no preference and are not wishing for either of them to win,” – Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Liddy’s a goof ball…but he was obviously talking about illegal Fed Gestapo tactics against innocent civilians. He himself was a Federal agent, so the idea he’d advocate random murders of other agents is stretching it.
Ayers and his associates did more than talk.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 9, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Bush graduated from Harvard too. Pfffffttt
Posted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 1:03:27 AM
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Bush got tru harvard doors because of his pedigree,trust me they are very very rich people that can get their average kid into some ivy league school, and their low marks can be ignored with a nice donation So the kid can stay afloat long enough to get a degree.
So dont read much with bush coming from harvard and try to tie him in with Barack, if Bush was joe public his application would have seen the paper shredder.
Posted by: charles | October 9, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
“The Obama campaign has claimed to be “flattered” by the fact that the Hamas endorsement compared their candidate to Kennedy. Obama himself told the Atlantic magazine that he understands why Hamas would support him. “It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more”
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
“Bush got tru harvard doors because of his pedigree,trust me they are very very rich people that can get their average kid into some ivy league school”
Sort of like affirmative action.
Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Blah blah blah lets focus on the issues not who he hangs out with.
HOW IS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HANGING OUT WITH TERRORISTS WHO BOMBED PARTS OF THE COUNTRY HE IS TRYING TO RUN, NOT AN ISSUE?
If Mccain were to hang out with say, timothy mcveigh, if he were alive today, he would be a RACIST ANTI AMERICAN. But oh ayers has “changed his ways” so its ok for barack.
YA, OKAY.
Posted by: Obamination | October 9, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
The one site for FACTS about John McCain: http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
“Senator McCain knew the facts, because we had briefed him. He knew this was a criminal enterprise. He knew that was beeing done was improper.”
The verdict was that McCain was the ONLY ONE of the “Keating five” who had benefitted both personally and politically.
John McCain – a corrupt politician who takes bribes.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
You guys are just too funny.. and now Palin, in anticipation of the investigation report coming out of Alaska has released her own ‘conclusion’ stating that she is ‘innocent’ and that the report contains false accusations.. even before she has read it! Sad..
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
Obama pals around with terrorists”
Hamas supports Obama in this election. Enough said.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 1:11:04 AM
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Man I hope you are right, because that means the TERRORIST WILL LEAVE US alone and go elswhere, and boy the BILLIONS we can save in fighting them .
All those people ever WANTED is for us to LEAVE their LAND and LEAVE them ALONE. THATS ALL THEY EVER WANT.
Imagine if another country came and ocupy us … you think we would just sit stil as citizens.At times step out and look at it from both sides.
Posted by: common-sense | October 9, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
– Sort of like affirmative action. –
Maybe.. kind of like the only way McCain got into the US Naval Academy was due to his father and grandfather.
And last I checked, don’t matter how you got in.. they don’t give special tests depending on entrance methods.
And yet, McCain finished 5th from the bottom and would have been expelled if it were not for his families influence, while Obama finished top of his class. Transcripts released in 2005. Pretty amazing difference.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Sort of like affirmative action.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 1:25:45 AM
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One problem affirmative action dont make you head of the law review .
so run along and please do try again.
it may give you a shot to get in a college but NOT any college .your MARKS STILL have to be there.
affirmative action just state if 2 people walk in with the same marks,the minority should be allowed in too or ahead if there is one spot.
Posted by: i-see-dumb-people | October 9, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
It is very sad to see that Senator McCain, a patriot and statesman, has morphed into a bitter, old man who seems out of ideas. That is the true tragedy of his campaign.
Posted by: redgirl | October 9, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
I’m voting Obama (mainly due to Palin), but I do wish he would clarify for everyone what his relationship was with Ayers. Clearly when you work with someone on a charity (funded by a good friend of Reagan, who had no trouble giving Ayers 50mill) you are more than simply acquantainces. Fact is Ayers was Chicago’s citizen of the year in 97, so many many Americans didnt have a problem with him. It’s a legitimate issue to bring up, but it certainly wont eclipse the economy and the polling deficit. In my opinion its a negative but not a real big one. AND Obama hasnt had contact with him other than on the street since joining the Senate, and noone has proven that in the 2 years he’s been running for Prez. Hannity complained how long this election cycle has been yet acts as if noone has vetted Obama. I am sure that there has been an awful lot of cash thrown around looking for dirt, and this is all they’ve got.
Posted by: Scott F | October 9, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
What difference does it make if Ayers said what he said on 9/11 or just a few days earlier? His dispeakable comments appeared in the New York Times on 9/11.
Shame on ABC that had the audacity to even present this as an issue – trying to divert the attention from that convicted terrorists’ comments.
ABC you are a disgrace to serious journalism. You pathetic left-wing-liberal Morons make us want to vomit!
Get your heads examined Marxist Morons. Go on with your filthy cover-up of That One and his buddies – the terrorists, the drug dealers, and the rest of the Chicago criminals. I guess we call Obama’s associations with convicted terrorists “community organizing” in our days! Where have you come America to even remotely think about electing Barack Obama as our Commander in Chief.
Shame on all un-patriotic Americans who are so blinded by the freaking left-wing-liberal media as to not even demand some real answers to the Ayers and other serious issues about Obama’s character and judgememt.
If you think that the economy will beter be served by a man who launcehd his career in the livingroom of a convicted terrorist go ahead America… listen to Obama’s “pretty speeches” and excuses and elect him to Office. Go ahead America… Don’t ask any questions…follow like the sheep your “Chosen One” – “God’s Gift to America” per Bela Pelosi! Do not question him – do not touch him! He is above all that…
Shame on anyone who is calling him/herself an Americans who is so blinded by the “economy” and forgets that character and judgment are far more important.
We need a man with character and judgement to lead our country and fix our economy. And, Obama has not demonstrated that he has the character or the judgement to be our next Commander in Chief. Period.
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
– Bush graduated from Harvard too –
The ignorance around here is amazing.. Bush went to Yale, not Harvard, and graduated with a ‘C’ average. McCain graduated with a ‘D-’ (in his own words).
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Something is very wrong with cadre of reporters at ABC News. The company needs to take a hard look at these people. They are not journalists. Of that I am certain. This latest piece from Claiborne is sheer nonsense. If this level of nitpicking becomes the status quo, then everyone will have to communicate via formal press releases that have been vetted by an army of lawyers. Guys like Claiborne are sucking the humanity out of everyone they report on.
Posted by: jcarob | October 9, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
The Obama-Ayers Coverup [Update]
Will the media ask questions about the Obama-Ayers relationship and its beginnings before 1995, when Ayers helped arranged the hiring of Obama as head of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and maintained a close relationship of its board for years?
Here are some questions the media should be asking and did not ask throughout the long primary season, abdicating its responsibility. Imagine what would have happened if the media had fully vetted Obama and practiced journalism as they should have done.
1.When did Barack Obama first meet Bill Ayers? Was it in New York City? Under what circumstances? Was it at Cooper Union when Ayers was a graduate student there and Obama at Columbia? Was it at Columbia when Ayers was at the teachers’ college?
2.Did Ayers play any role in Obama coming to Chicago as an organizer in 1985? Did the Ayers influence the Woods Fund in any way to subsidize through the Gamaliel Foundation Obama’s job? (The Woods Fund was created by the family of the Safari Coal Company, a major supplier of Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO was Thomas Ayers.)
3.Did Ayers introduce Obama the organizer to his family, his father Tom and brother John? Did they involve Obama in the school reform movement they led in Chicago?
4.Did the Ayers family help Obama become a summer associate at Sidley Austen, the father’s company’s law firm?
5.Did Bernardine Dohrn know Michelle Robinson when they both worked at Sidley at the same time? Did she or Ayers introduce Michelle to Barack at Sidley?
6.Did Dohrn, who attended the University of Chicago Law School with Judson Miner, play any part in helping Obama get a job at the Davis Miner law firm?
UPDATE: It was 40 years ago today that William Ayers was arrested at the Democratic national convention — just like the “Recreate68″ extreme-left protestors at this convention:
It was forty years ago today that Barack Obama friend and political ally, and unrepentant terrorists, William Ayers was arrested while protesting the DNC proceedings. William Ayers set no bombs that day, but he was only working his way up from petty criminal to domestic terrorist. And of course this was long before Barack Obama and he struck up the friendship that would lead Ayers to launch Obama’s political career at his house.
Still, the McCain campaign would take this opportunity to remind voters that those responsible for the violence in 1968 have since been incorporated into the party they once protested, and have been revered even by the likes of Barack Obama, and this despite the failure, in the case of Ayers, to ever apologize for the violence he committed against the American people. (Read all)
The media had better start asking these questions, and demanding answers.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/28/the-obama-ayers-coverup/
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
To my friends who keep pushing the Ayers, Rezko connections. Obama’s connections to these two are tenuous at best. Neither were paid private lobbyists serving at the highest level of the Obama Campaign. There are a half dozen such connections or associations in the McCain campaign and his policies reflect their influence.
When you can show a connection between any corrupt or criminal activity of Ayers and Rezko and an official action or political position of Barak Obama, then come back and we will talk. If you cannot you probably will never know what is about to hit your candidate November 5.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Ah, Natasha the cut-n-paste queen! Oh, and Ayers didn’t say it on 9/11, he said it a couple days before anticipating the release of his new book :)
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Lynn wrote: “Someone needs to get Palin to shut up and stop being reckless before she incites a tragedy~~~one that would send this country over the edgE”
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How convenient, hah?! You want to get Palin or Cindy, or McCain to shut up so to avoid taking the mask off the real Obama? Get real!…
YOU, left wing liberal Morons have spent weeks on personal attacks against Palin and now all of a sudden you are becoming “testy” because we are determined to get American voters to learn about the “Real Obama” and his “sweet deals” with convicted terrorists, drug dealers, and a lunatic anti-American Marxist pastor of his for 20+ years!
The real tragedy will be to elect Barack Hussein Obama President. The real tragedy will be to elect someone who refuses to place his hand over his heart during our National Anthem and refuses to wear the American flag. But off course, what do you expect from an Un-American, Non-patriot, MARXIST Barack Hussein Obama, who launched his campaign in the livingroom of convicted terrorist Ayers …
I guess this is what community organizing was all about for Mr. Barack Hussein Obama! He was “organizing the community” spreading his Marxist ideas around in perfect harmony with terorists and other criminal elements of the Chicago underground!
Oh, I know…he speaks well!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-defends-a.html?cid=133892075#comment-133892075
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Sort of like affirmative action.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 1:25:45 AM
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Dont worry your pretty head , whites still rule the day ,go across all the fortune 500 companies , you are still hard press to find minorities.
blacks may catch a break in getting a education but when they graduate thier white counterpart still will be ahead in getting the better and higher paying jobs.
so you can still feel better tonite , no one is taking anything from you.
Posted by: gail | October 9, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
geez wrote: “am so tired of Obama-haters crying “terrorist.” If that’s all you’ve got, then you are straight delusional… blah blah blah”
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I am so tired of Palin haters bullshiting about “pigs and lipsticks” and crying about which newspaper Palind reads, while they are trying to divert from the far more imortant issues of Obama’s character and judgement. How convenient, hah?
Obama is running for President – not Palin – and yes, we will keep on bringing up his character flaws and his poor judgement. And, please do not try to use the economy as being an issue above character and judgement to avoid Obama being unmasked.
We need a President with both “strong character” and “excellent judgement” to fix the freaking economy – not someone wjo launched his career in the livingroom of a terrorist – a MARXIST “community organizer” – organizing the underground criminals of Chicago – that is what “That One” was doing before running to be our Commander in Chief.
Wake Up America – Take the darn blindfolds that the media partisan Morons have forced upon you for a long long time. The truth about Obama must be told – even if the left wing liberals are having a coniption about it and divert from this serious issue using the economy as an excuse. Enough is enough….
DO NOT VOTE FOR “THAT ONE”… THE MARXIST CHICAGO COMMUNITY ORGANIZER
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/cindy-mccain-ta.html?cid=134082873#comment-134082873
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Who is going to work with President McCain and Vice-President Palin when they get elected? He is throwing everyone in congress under the bus. She is as trustworthy as a weasel.
Posted by: doug | October 9, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Of Course Ayers is Relevant wrote:
“That One, yeah, the communist radical one.
Obama stresses his commonality with the American people. Do most people feel comfortable working closely with unrepentant domestic terrorists who still want to overthrow the capitalist system in America?
Obama presses educational issues as part of his campaign. He spent years working with Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which pushed efforts to create primary educational organizations that would create political activists for the Left – and which largely failed in any of its intended purposes.
Obama has lied and obfuscated about his relationship with Ayers. Clearly, Ayers was not just “some guy in the neighborhood”, but a political adviser at least on educational issues who provided a key launch for Obama’s political career.”
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That One, yeah, the MARXIST radical one!
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
ABC NEWS – That One, Too
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/that-one-too.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
My my, Natasha seems worked up tonight.. Natasha, I thought you were going to fly up to Alaska so you could keep an eye on those Russian planes while Palin was out running errands..
Speaking of Palin, I believe the best description of her and John McCains treatment of Americans for choosing here was written by Matt Taibbi in his October 2nd article:
“Sarah Palin is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States. As a representative of our political system, she’s a new low in reptilian villainy, the ultimate cynical masterwork of puppeteers like Karl Rove. But more than that, she is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power. Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she’s the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV — and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.”
Nails it pretty much right on the head, and shows how stupid Americans have become (particularly in light of the numnuts currently in office).
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
My friends on the right. You can say Obama attended an early event in his first campaign in Ayer’s house and it would be true. I can say Sarah Palin wrote a letter of recommendation for a brutal man who got hired as an Alaska state trooper and I am telling the truth. Both statements distort the heck out of what really happened.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
The ignorance around here is amazing.. Bush went to Yale
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yes bush have a undergard degree from yale before he went to harvard.
Your last school is mostly mention, but i will agree bush is smarter than mccain, its not even close thats even scary.this guy got this far on his POW Violin tune.
thats what many keep saying he is NOT educated enough for higher office . its one big joke . maybe this time around it look like the SMART GUY will be president.
Posted by: barney | October 9, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
Theres an eerie connection here. The republicans hate the press. Guess who also did while trying to get elected? Hitler!.
Hitlers henchmen beat up reporters and editors and burned their offices. Now Palin supporters scream obscenities and racial slurs at reporters who covers Palin rallies.
As for now, its only a mild lynch mob atmosphere at Palins rallies. But what happens when these nuts go to far?
I guess we’ll soon see a torched lit parade and smashing of minorities store windows too from Palin supporters.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
“problem is…the country’s tankin’ and people want change”
What change? What is he going to change? What has he changed in the past. Please post some examples. He is a slick Harvard educated Lawyer, that has conned the desperate and the feeble minded.
Posted by: Mack | Oct 10, 2008 1:09:32 AM
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If nothing’s gonna change you suggest vote for the McCain to maintain the same. I maintain that you and McCain are lame and America cannot afford more of the same.
Moreover, “Hello my fellow prisoners” quote from John McCain. Proof that he suffers PTSD post trumatic stress disorder from being a POW.
McCain is too erratic, risky and unstable to have authority to push the red button as POTUS.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 9, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Let lightning strike MCCAIN AND PALIN THE SCUMBAGS, every time they tell a lie.
Posted by: mary | October 9, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
You can define change as a lot of things. But one thing it is NOT is voting with Bush 95% of the time. Thats NOT change. Its bad enough he voted with Bush 95% of the time, John McCain is proud of it!
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
If McCain is ‘supposed’ to represent honor and patriotism – THEN I DON’T want any part of it!
O and Joe ’08
Posted by: Leah | October 9, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
The McCain / Palin rallies are frightening. Of course people have the right to free speech: that’s a fundamental right in the Constitution. But shouts of “Kill him” etc., etc.? No. The fact that both of these candidates refuse to take responsibility for the increasing fervor in rallies that are starting to look as if they were being held in Germany in 1933 is an insult to democracy.
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The only thing missing from a McCain/Palin rally are people actually wearing their hoods and sheets.
Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | October 9, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
– yes bush have a undergard degree from yale before he went to harvard. –
Well I be amazed! He did indeed go to Harvard and got a MBA.. that makes his dismal performance even more profound!
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
My friends on the right, you can say Obama served on the board of an organization with a man who once was involved with domestic terrorist acts.
I can say Obama showed bipartisan leadership by serving on a board to improve public schools that was funded by a Reagan Republican ambassador.
We would both be correct and refer to the same board. The ambassadors family supports McCain, who serves on a governing body with Barak Obama, who served on a board with Bill Ayers. Small world isn’t it? And tell Sarah it’s more than 6000 years old and isn’t flat.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Of course Bush went to Yale. His daddy did to and got him in. That was called a legacy admission. That is the term for affirmative action applied to unqualified whites. I believe that is how McCain got into the Naval Academy as well. Double legacy. Admirals.
Neither Bush or McCain did well but muddled through. Obama, on the other hand, excelled regardless of how he gained admission.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
McCain lost and needs to deal with it. His Campaign is the worst run in history, he has nothing to offer and Biden is correct when he said that McCain hadn’t a new idea since Palin was six.
Posted by: Thinking | October 9, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Ah, Natasha the cut-n-paste queen! Oh, and Ayers didn’t say it on 9/11, he said it a couple days before anticipating the release of his new book :)
Posted by: Concerned American
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Mickey Mouse; My comments are my comments and I have the right to do whatever I want with them including using them from one blog to another since it appears to me that the Obama-Ayers issue is not going to stop being a “hot” topic any time soon. Haha!
So, as long as the topics are similar, whether you like it or not I will decide how to use my comments – not you and not anyone else. This is America, baby – not Cuba! (That’s where you and That One belong)!
Btw, I told you to stop taking lessons on plagiarism by Joe Biden. Start posting your sources (links). LOL!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Are the american people so foolish to believe such hateful and dangerous lies, coming from obama’s opponents at this late stage in this race?” “Can you not detect the finger of the interferer?” I mean by that,the sinister activity at work. Is this the only route to power for the macain/palin team?” The good Law firmly commands, that we should not criticize, judge, or condemn, and such behaviour will cause their downfall, as it has resulted in the current conditions on Earth today. It is high time now that we come to our senses by returning to living in harmony with the good law, the only panacea for solving all our problems. Obama will be good for America, for he is an honest and good man.He is also a person of great integrity and extremely capable. Both himself and his wife michelle truely love America,and its peoples,and I firmly believe that he will do his utmost for this country America,and will also strive to bring about a more peaceful world. May God continue to bless America
Posted by: rev norbert | October 9, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
– My friends on the right, you can say Obama served on the board of an organization with a man who once was involved with domestic terrorist acts. –
Yup, however they are unable to come to grips with the fact that McCain served on the advisory board of an organization that covertly funded terrorists and subverted US law to do so and whos parent organization was linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/10/07/ap5522185.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
My friends on the left, if you cannot humiliate these fools with humor and logic, play elsewhere. And do not mind Natasha. She is jealous of Campbell Brown’s stellar intellect, all American good looks, fine education and excellent family.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Natasha, here is one for you.. from one of your favorite sources, Jerome Corsi (sound familiar?)..
Titled: “Group tied to al-Qaida backs McCain for prez”
Excerpt:
“McCain co-sponsored the legislation despite serious concerns voiced at that time in Republican policy forums, warning the KLA was a criminal terrorist organization with ties to al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57678
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Oh, and Ayers didn’t say it on 9/11, he said it a couple days before anticipating the release of his new book :)
Posted by: Concerned American
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I do not give a damn about the date of the Ayers’ comments – it is his comments that are important! But you left-wing-liberals [in the name of the economy]are diverting again from the real issue which is Barack Hussein Obama’s association with convicted terrorist Bill Ayers.
The real issue is Obama’s messed up character AND judgement!
Booooooooo!!!!!!!!!
*Coming up soon at a theater near you*
**The next October Surprise**
***ACORN***
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
My friends, Barak Obama has renounced the terrorist acts committed when Obama was eight years old by a man from an older generation with whom Onama served on a board three decades later. Sarah Palin’s closest political adviser joined an organization whose founder was sponsored in the U.N by the Islamic Republic of Iran. He has not renounced that sponsorship even though Iranian leaders call for the destruction of Israel.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Sorry Natasha but its you repukes who wants to ‘divert’:
McCain campaign: ‘If we talk about the economy, we’ll lose’
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
McCain is an old dirtbag.
Posted by: anon | October 9, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
This election is history repiting itself. I remember the Hitler days. Hitler was our great leader, our great Messiah. But it turned out ,that millions and millions of people lost they’r lifes. This time i hope it will not happen, but there is a great danger that this could much bigger, and much more destractive to all of us and to the entire World.
Posted by: Walter | October 9, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I hope the wing-nut faction will react in a calm and adult way when all their conspiracies do not shake the resolve of the majority of Americans when they elect Obama for President.
Posted by: doug | October 9, 2008, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
– I do not give a damn about the date of the Ayers’ comments – it is his comments that are important! –
Well, I’ll remember that, so I won’t vote for Ayers.. oh, wait.. he isn’t even on the ticket! Nevermind, I’ll keep my vote for Obama.. rather have someone who may have sat on the same board with a terrorist than a guy who provided funding and arms for them.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
I interviewed with ACORN in the mid-90′s. It was basically going into the poorest neighborhoods of Boston, such as Mattapan, and helping to organize neighborhood committees. A person would host a meeting, neighbors would come, and they would do things like try to get a stop sign at a dangerous intersection. Or have the city come in and board up abandoned buildings. I didn’t take the job, not because it wasn’t worthy, but rather I didn’t want to risk my white back-side walking around late at night in high crime neighborhoods.
Posted by: Craig | October 9, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
McCain should be swift boated like Kerry was… Dems have too much class to resort to band aids.
Posted by: JoeyZap | October 9, 2008, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
“She is jealous of Campbell Brown’s stellar intellect blah blah blah”
Posted by: ricky
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Bwtween two Morons (you and her) yeah, I guess she is a bit smarter than you!
Before fluffing pillows on the today show at NBC she was teaching English in Eastern Europe!! (haha!) Perhaps she should leave her position as “Witch of CNN” and go back to… fluffing pillows! Oh she comes from a good family too…her dad – a convicted criminal (insurance fraud)who lied to the FBI!
(and she has the audacity to talk to us every night about the AIG crooks! Ahahaha!)
Hey- Do not forget to change you IP once in a while if you are going to post under different names! LOL!!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
McCain was the one who bombed civilians during the Vietnam war. McCain killed people with his bombs. McCain and the bombs on his plane killed 200 American sailors on his aircraft carrier. Let’s put war protestor Ayers up against eager war-maker McCain and count who killed more people. Don’t tell me Vietnamese civilians at home in their own country don’t count. Those of us who protested the war in Vietnam remember My Lai, Kent State, chemical warfare, napalm, the bombing of Cambodia
Posted by: Dr.Dan | October 9, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Speaking of October surprises.. seriously, this is so funny you couldn’t make it up if you tried:
“Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing.”
Is that not incredible! And it gets even better:
“Lawmakers are expected to release their own findings Friday. Campaign officials have yet to see that report — the result of an investigation that began before she was tapped as McCain’s running mate — but said the investigation has falsely portrayed a legitimate policy dispute between a governor and her commissioner as something inappropriate.”
Ok, so we are supposed to believe Palins report about herself instead of the real one that nobody has even seen yet? This is indeed the most absurd thing I’ve seen during this entire campaign.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5990499
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Barack Hussein Obama (Author)
“The Audacity of Hope” (page 261)
‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
Quote by Barack Hussein Obama….
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
To criticize McCains service would be unthinkable…but wait a minute didn’t the neanderthal Right do that to Kerry? To criticize Republicans or anyone for being gay would be wrong…but Mark Foley, Ted Haggerd, Larry Craig, Bob Allen and Glen Murphy jr. were all Republican gay bashing closet homophobes. Once again their HYPOCRISY makes them fair game.
Posted by: JoeyZap | October 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I think McCain is an arrogant, angry man with contempt for Obama’s surprise ratings over him.His Sarah Palin was a dud and continues to make a fool of herself.Obama was intriguing at first, a chance for something new and maybe some much needed change.Now it seems there are more questions than answers as to regards to wht this man truly intends for our country.Biden, is a liar so both are equal in VP choices.Neither party has done anything to prove that true change will come.Scary times indeed.
Posted by: McCain/Obama for a ruined nation | October 9, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Does anyone else think that the GOP really knows Obama is the better candidate so are deliberately trying to tank McCain? It sure does look that way!
Posted by: sammy | October 9, 2008, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Booooo – Jon Clown – as in Jon Klein – President of CNN…
CNN: “But Obama Ain’t Palling Around With Terrorists Now!!!”
Via CNN which does a ‘fact check‘ of the Obama – Ayers connection: Verdict, the two men do not have a close relationship now, and there is no proof that they were working together closely at any point “in the last three years.”
And what sources does CNN quote to determine that Palin et al. are lying completely about the Ayers – Obama connection?
The New York Times article cited by Palin concluded that “the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers.” Other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-times, The New Yorker and The New Republic, have said that their reporting doesn’t support the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship.
And again others did, right? Like the Wall Street Journal and National Review Online. I’m guessing that when you’re fact checking you take those reports into considerations right? Especially because they actually uncovered quite some evidence indicating that the relationship between Obama and Ayers was closer than Obama is willing to admit.
Right?
Nope. That was it. That was CNN’s ‘fact check.’ It simply repeated the conclusions of pro-Obama publications, and then concluded that the accusation is false.
Another point of significance: no one’s saying the two are close now. That’s not the point. It’s nice of CNN to try to spin this thing for all it’s worth, but the accusation is that the two had a professional relationship in the 1990s. That Obama served on the board of an education organization founded by Ayers, that the two attended meetings together, that Obama endorsed a book Ayers wrote about education, and that Ayers held a private fundraiser for Obama when the latter launched his political career.
It’s nice of CNN to swiftboat the matter, though.
Is there actually anyone falling for this ‘reporting’ and ‘fact checking’ or are the only ones accepting CNN’s words as ‘true’ those already in the tank for Obama?
CNN: But Obama Ain’t Palling Around With Terrorists Now!
http://poligazette.com/2008/10/06/cnn-but-obama-aint-paling-around-with-terrorists-now/
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
“Hussein” is as common as “Smith” in most of the world retard. Try getting out of your small inbred village idiot.
Posted by: JoeyZap | October 9, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
WHO IS REAL SEN JOHN MCCAIN?
Here is real Sen John McCain. Our hero and our American dream
Sen John McCain should be rewarded with the Oval Office for all his unparallel work in Vietnam.
Here are the reasons:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/schanberg
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1794
Posted by: keny | October 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Mr Obama has lied about Bill Ayers on numerous times now.
Why would a Presidential Candidate lie about Bill Ayers and his friendship and association with him, if he had nothing to hide?
Mr Obama is supposedly an intelligent man, Did he not think someone would know or find out? Why lie then.
Knowing Mr Ayers is a professed Communist, has a history of declaring war on America, setting off bombs on american soil, and has no remorse about it and has said he would do it again.
That makes Mr Obama very bad and Questions his motives for lying about it.
Posted by: seah | October 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Oh Natasha, you can do better than that can’t you?
About your quote, which has appeared in numerous spam e-mails attacking Obama:
“Anyone looking for Barack Obama’s real sentiments about whites, blacks and Muslims won’t find them in this scurrilous collection of falsified, doctored and context-free “quotations.”
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
THE TROOPERGATE BOMBS START DROPPING ON THE PALIN/McCAIN CAMPAIGN TOMORROW!!!!!!!
And the NEWS is NOT GOOD -Impeachable offenses!!
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548955.html
By Monday McCain/Palin will both be TOAST!!!!
Keep talking about Ayers tonight Republicans, because after tonight the TROOPERGATE REPORT will be the ALL over the news for the next two-three weeks until the election!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
– Mr Obama has lied about Bill Ayers on numerous times now. –
Nope.. The GOP tried to make it look like that by taking his response in the debate and clipping a single part; “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood”. That isn’t the whole response, which was:
“OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I’m talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense, George.
The fact is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.
Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn’s statements? Because I certainly don’t agree with those, either.
So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They’re not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn’t.”
Yet, true to their Roveian style, they keep repeating the lie over and over again hoping that someone, anyone will believe it.. and look, some of you have!
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
WHO IS REAL SEN JOHN MCCAIN?
Here is real Sen John McCain. Our hero and our American dream
Sen John McCain should be rewarded with the Oval Office for all his unparallel work in Vietnam.
http://www.rollingstone.com/issue1063
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Natasha is simply upset because Campbell Brown, as a mother herself, expressed concern for Sarah Palin’s daughter after Palin announced her pregnancy to the world.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
How pathetic it is to see the once powerful GOP resorting to this desperate “Ayers” crap. It’s kind of sad in a weird way. Obama was 8 freaks! Ayers was reformed and had become an expert at community work and natually ended up on boards and committees. The committee was funded by the conservative (Ronald Reagan favorite) Annenberg family! Republicans were on the committee!
Lost is the fact that Obama was giving his life to his community and trying to improve things for those less fortunate. He frick’n graduated from Harvard law School with honors- could’ve made a killing!
What was Bush doing at that age?
Posted by: JoeyZap | October 9, 2008, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Page 261 from Obama’s own book…
The Audacity of Hope…
Obama and your sources can sugar coat anything they want…
The quote reads exactly as I have posted it. I am not going to buy That One’s explanation that he means American Muslims only. Had Palin or someone else said something like this the democRATS would have chopped their head! Perhaps Obama should have been a bit more articulate if he wanted to convince us that he meant only American Muslims! (I thought being articulate was his strong point!)
Barack Hussein Obama (Author)
“The Audacity of Hope” (page 261)
‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
Quote by Barack Hussein Obama….
AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
It is our duty and our responsiblility NOT to elect as our next Commander in Chief a man who was serving on the board of several organizations side by side with convicted terrorists like William Ayers – the Pentagon Bomber!
Our country deserves better than that!
A USA Military History (Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6370539579217643597&hl=en
God Bless America!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Natasha is a feminist. That is why she would not associate with a married man who would hit on a young girl almost twenty years his junior in a bar.
Posted by: ricky | October 9, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Misleading e-mail: From Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Actual quote from “The Audacity of Hope” [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Obama did not say he would side with “the Muslims,” which could easily be read as meaning he would side with the world’s Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States. He said he would side with “them,” referring back to his mention of immigrant communities and specifically to “Arab and Pakistani Americans.” Furthermore, he was speaking of an “ugly direction” like the mass internment of Japanese Americans.
This false quote goes hand in hand with the equally false rumor that Obama is a Muslim.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Video…
Obama Soviet Anthem: Hilarious
http://www.wikio.com/video/389423
O’ Hail the Messiah Lord Obama
Glenn Beck Parody base on the Hymn “Gimn Sovetskogo Soyuza” (The National Anthem of the Soviet Union)
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Boris_natasha_fearless.jpg
Natasha – the “Deranged” Moose Hunter
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
– It is our duty and our responsiblility NOT to elect as our next Commander in Chief a man who was serving on the board of several organizations side by side with convicted terrorists like William Ayers – the Pentagon Bomber! –
Yes, instead we should be voting for a man who sat on the board of an organization who supported islamic militant terrorists with funding and arms, subverted the law to do so, and also provided funding and arms to terrorists known as the KLA.
Sorry, I think NOT! rather vote for someone sitting on the board of a charitable organization that might have had a ‘terrorist’ 40 years in the past, than one who sat on the board of an organization that directly supported terrorists.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Yup Bullwinkle.. Natasha is not really an American either. She really is a Russian who wants to sneak planes in via Alaska, which is why she is so concerned about Palin and her vigilant duty up there keeping an eye on them. She knows that if McCain is elected, Alaska will be wide open and ripe for invasion.. it’s all an evil Russian plot.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
THAT MAKES IT 15 TIMES today that I’ve been called a racist by BHO supporters.
I’M BLACK.
Posted by: J.D. | Oct 10, 2008 12:50:04 AM
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Shame on OHB supporters…
Btw, leadership starts at the top – OHB is an anti-American – it does not matter if you are black or white – he is an “elitist” Marxist who hates any patriotic American no matter what their color!
Oh, he is an egomaniac, too!
Obama Buys Primetime Television Time Before Election
(ahahahaha! OHB – the TV Star!)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-buys-prim.html?cid=134139259#comment-134139259
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Does anyone care that John McCain was an active participant in the Contra affair that was headed up by Oliver North during the Reagan administration? Or that he was on the board of the World Council for Freedom from 1981 to 1984, but never admitted that on any of his disclosure forms during those years – or since?
Does anyone care that Obama has had the class and graciousness to not bring up these associations?
Posted by: Kaelinda | October 9, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Obama met Bill Ayers, a respected Professor of Education at the University of Illinois in Chicago.
They worked together as board members on a program being sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation, one of America’s leading, non-partisan educational foundations.
The Annenberg Foundation was itself funded by a Republican.
Other members of the board on which Obama and Ayers worked were respected Republicans.
Bill Ayers may indeed be unrepentant about his past, but that is his business. If you don’t like his lack of repentance, take it up with the Annenberg Foundation or take it up with the University of Illinois at Chicago.
Obama’s work with Ayers was entirely devoted to educational reform, nothing the Annenberg Foundation sponsored had anything to do with Ayers past.
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Does anyone care that John McCain was an active participant in the Contra affair that was headed up by Oliver North during the Reagan administration? Or that he was on the board of the World Council for Freedom from 1981 to 1984, but never admitted that on any of his disclosure forms during those years – or since?
Does anyone care that Obama has had the class and graciousness to not bring up these associations while the discussion should be about the economy?
Posted by: Kaelinda | October 9, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
i just heard ed rollins say on CNN that “obama will win in a landslide”. and this is coming from one of the biggest repub strategists.
looks like the party’s finally over for the GOP!! time for Bush and mccain to get outta dodge… and for palin to go back to her view of russia.
Posted by: mccain lost | October 9, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Does anyone care that John McCain was an active participant in the Contra affair that was headed up by Oliver North during the Reagan administration? Or that he was on the board of the World Council for Freedom from 1981 to 1984, but never admitted that on any of his disclosure forms during those years – or since?
Does anyone care that Obama has had the class and graciousness to not bring up these associations while the discussion should be about the economy?
Posted by: Kaelinda | October 9, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Does anyone care that John McCain was an active participant in the Contra affair that was headed up by Oliver North during the Reagan administration? Or that he was on the board of the World Council for Freedom from 1981 to 1984, but never admitted that on any of his disclosure forms during those years – or since?
Does anyone care that Obama has had the class and graciousness to not bring up these associations while the discussion should be about the economy?
Posted by: Kaelinda | October 9, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
– Obama Buys Primetime Television Time Before Election (ahahahaha! OHB – the TV Star!) –
Now you are just starting to look pathetic Natasha.. how about telling us how you feel about McCains health plan? You know, a real issue for a change?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Uh McCain has been known to pal around one of the biggest terrorists of them all. “W” lol
Ayers was awarded a citizenship award in Chicago.(1997)
“W” was not even allowed at the GOP convention. Talk about not wanting to be associated with somebody.
So bringing up Ayers is so not an issue with Dems and moderate Republicans, it only holds sway to those desperately wanting McCain to win because he is their equivalent of their favorite football team. Only that comparison/analogy matches up with the fervency of wanting to win no matter what the cost.
I can honestly say if Barack was Republican and he presented the same ideas and plans… I would have voted for him.
I recognize him as the choice to vote for, not bec he’s a Democrat, not for being a black man, but for being a stellar example of an American.
Sometimes in the heat of the moment, some of us forget we are all Americans. So imperfectly perfect.
Barack as The President is what is going to happen. Don’t forget that once that happens we will all be FREE from the yoke of Bush/Cheney.
McCain hasn’t demonstrated that he’s willing to shed his parties influential tendencies to a degree that a change in direction warrants.
Posted by: keeyoni | October 9, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
Its ok Natasha, we know you’re frustrated with McCains flawed tactics that handed Obama the victory. Just take a deep breath and accept it.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
“I’m really bummed that I’m going to be busy on Oct 29. I’m going to have to miss Obama’s TV special, featuring his big Ego.”
Posted by: S Adams
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Thank God that he announced it in advance… Even the most stupid movie will be better than watching That One – that MARXIST Community Organizer!
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-buys-prim.html?cid=134139259#comment-134139259
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Obama’s Illegal Alien Roommate
Obama’s friend and roommate while he attended Columbia University was an illegal alien from Pakistan. Obama sure seems to have had a lot of friends from Pakistan.Obama had numerous unpaid tickets while in school. He only paid them before he ran for president. Obama doesn’t seem to like to the obey laws.
http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=864701
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List of Barack Obama’s friends and roommates
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_Barack_Obama's_friends_and_roommates
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Yes Kaelinda, it has been brought up more than once.. however, most of the anti-Obama, McCain (non)supporters are blinded to facts, and stick to their fiction in order to shore up their stance in fear of shattering their world view.. to the detriment of real Americans who actually care about the direction of this country..
Want proof, just ask one of them why they support any of McCains positions. Most don’t even know what they are or what they would do for the country.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
McCain lost,
You’re right I heard that from Ed Rollins on CNN as well. He is one of the most pro-McCain Republican talking heads out there – Also one of the most honest!
HE SAID LANDSLIDE BY THE WAY!!!
And after the TROOPERGATE REPORT comes out tomorrow he might be right. As all attention will shift away from Obama and this “old news” Ayers stuff to Palin and her abuse of power scandal!!
Man what a tough break for the Republicans and that old fool McCain!!
First the economy goes south because of deregulation that McCain “chanted” for years, and now that stupid pick of Palin without vetting her is coming up to bite him in the ass!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
Come on Natasha, copy/paste of material open to public editing is foolhardy at best.Where is a real thought composed by you and states what you really feel not some blog hype.
Posted by: Don't believe wiki/metapedia | October 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
– I can honestly say if Barack was Republican and he presented the same ideas and plans… I would have voted for him. –
Absolutely! I don’t give a rats backside what party they are.. it’s where they will take the country. I’d vote for Obamas plans over McCains regardless of party, name, color or religion.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Hey Natasha -
Love the crazy foreign accent.:-)
Vee mast ketch zat MOOSE Borerees! And zet squirel eez drivink mee kraazi!
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
47% in the polls thinks John ‘one foot in the grave’ McCain will not survive his first term.
The reality is a vote for McCain is a vote for Palin as president. You know, the “I can see Russia from my house” experienced candidate.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Hey McNatasha,
You sure are a nasty thing! Your Republican lies won’t work anymore and you really should stop watching Hannity and FOX Noise and listening to that fat drug addict Rush!!
Tomorrow your new orders and talking points will come down from Republican headquarters – Spin baby spin, as hard as you can to cover up the TROOPERGATE report!!
You will have good company, as I imagine every Repulican loser and talking head will be trying to minimize that one, ouch…
Tomorrow is Christmas in Obamaland!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Posted by: Davis | Oct 10, 2008 3:34:12 AM
Is that “Jingle Bells” I hear playing?:-)
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
“Obama step down before the Federal Court rules against you! Illegal aliens are not allowed to run for public office.
Read: case UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, :
Plaintiff :
vs. :CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, :
Obama produce your;
1. “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate
2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
http://WWW.obamacrimes.com
Honesty is the Best policy!”
Posted by: Just-the-facts
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Ahahaha…ha! OHB and honesty! He plays naive about it!
:-)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/obama-buys-prim.html?cid=134139259#comment-134139259
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Or is is rather “Joy to the World”? ;-)
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
“Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago.”
See the link below for facts and pictures:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
– 2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
– 3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
I got my New York birth certificate, but I don’t have those.. does that mean that for 50+ years I have not been a citizen? Or is it yet another grasp for straws by a drowning candidate?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
On a lighter note… (ahaha…ha!)
Pelosi and Frank Show Their Ass to Taxpayers: It’s Butt Ugly!
Written by Morse Story written: 29 September 2008
Washington, DC/ Washington Post – Just when American Taxpayers thought they had seen it all, Democratic Leadership in Congress Mooned them in one of the most Cheeky displays of unadulterated hubris in political history, not seen since Frank showed his bare ass to the $80 male hooker, Steve Gobie.
Blaming the Republican Administration for the nation’s economic woes, prior to the historic vote to secure the financial stability of the nation, the Speaker of the House, Pelosi, third in line to the Presidency, abdicated her leadership role in favor of narrow minded partisan politics.
Backing her up was the House Court Jester, Barney Frank, who made light of the situation and apologized for hurting the feelings of his Republican counterparts in the House of Representatives.
The Democratic Congress, in the majority since 2006, now has an approval rating sinking faster than the DOW Jones Industrial Average. They have given new meaning to the term “Do Nothing Congress”, while blaming the administration for the energy and financial crisis.
In a touch of irony, not noted by The New York Times, it was the anniversary of their 1999 article announcing that Fannie Mae would be easing credit restrictions for unqualified applicants under pressure from the Clinton Administration, and under the guidance of the $97M Golden Boy, Franklin Raines, now one of Obama’s confidants.
This astute financial program was defended again and again by Barney Frank who as late as 2003 said “we are not feeling any kind of financial crisis” in a response to continued efforts by Republicans to put a lid on irresponsible lending.
Meanwhile in the Clinton camp, a financial spokesman said everything was fine. “Hillary and Bill shorted everything in the market on information from Sen. Dodd, and they’re even better off then after Whitewater. By the time the market closes this Friday, Hillary should have enough to BUY the Presidency next time!” he said smugly.
The story above is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i41396#this
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Hey Nasty Natasha,
You really are a grubby little pea brained “cut and paste” bi*ch aren’t you?
Well tomorrow your little Republican smear fest party is over!!!
CAN YOU SAY OCTOBER TROOPERGATE SURPRISE??
Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way, oh what fun it is to smash that lying Palin today!!
Posted by: Davis | October 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Virginia is going blue and so is Wisconsin:
“The latest CNN poll of polls has Obama leading McCain 49 percent to 45 percent. A CNN/TIME/Opinion Research Corporation poll conducted September 28-30 shows Obama with an even bigger lead over McCain, 53 percent to 44 percent. The CNN poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.
For the last 10 presidential elections, Republicans have been able to bank on Virginia delivering its 13 electoral votes to the GOP. President Bush won Virginia by 8 percentage points in both 2000 and 2004, and President Bill Clinton was never able to capture the state when he ran in 1992 and 1996..”
Seems the Virginians has finally seen the true McCain. The McCain who sold out to savings and loansharks.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
– 2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
– 3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
I got my New York birth certificate, but I don’t have those.. does that mean that for 50+ years I have not been a citizen?
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If you were a citizen of Kenya at any point in your life YES you would have to provide those documents unless of course you want to be a Citizen of Kenya ALL YOUR LIFE!
LOL!
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Hey author, nice job pointing out McCain’s mistake that Ayer’s didn’t crow about bombing America on 9/11 but a couple of days after. Then you put a quote from Obama about how Ayers is an English Professor. Why don’t you correct Obama too? Ayers is an education professor, not an English professor.
Michael Phelps won 8 gold medals at the recent Olympics. Don’t you think he should have been forced to give 7 of them to people who didn’t place? Wouldn’t that have been “fair”?
The New England Patriots finished their 2007 season 16-0. THe Oakland raiders finished it 4-12. Shouldn’t the Patriots have been forced to give the raiders 7 wins to bring the Raiders up to a “fair” number?
Let’s say you have a 4.0 GPA from studying rigorously and working hard. Your friend the partier has a 2.0. Shouldn’t you be required to give him a point from your GPA so that it can all be “fair” at 3.0?
Those making $250k in this country gave 35% of their money to the federal government in income and a certain percentage in state income, as well as sales tax, property tax, etc. Many other people have no job, or a job that pays them less money. Shouldn’t those making $250k be forced to pay an even higher percentage of their salary to bring up the “salary” of those who make less or nothing at all? Isn’t it more “fair” if everyone makes the same?
Posted by: SmallBiz241 | October 9, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
TIME MAGAZINE PHOTO
BOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!
Obama: No Hand on Heart for National Anthem
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1662530_1446035,00.html
Posted by: Natasha | October 9, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Natasha tell the truth youre not even American are you? Are you from Panama like John McCain?
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 9, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
– If you were a citizen of Kenya at any point in your life YES you would have to provide those documents unless of course you want to be a Citizen of Kenya ALL YOUR LIFE! –
Q. Is Obama a Kenyan Citizen?
No. He held both U.S. and Kenyan citizenship as a child, but lost his Kenyan citizenship automatically on his 21st birthday.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Posted by: Davis | Oct 10, 2008 3:44:57 AM
Here’s another early Christmas song for you:-)
Jingle Bells
McCain Smells
Palin Laid an Egg
Th’ Straight Express Lost a Wheel
Obama won the day!
Jingle Bells
McCain Smells
Palin Laid an Egg
Th’ Straight Express Lost a Wheel
Obama won the day!
Jingle Bells
McCain Smells
Palin Laid an Egg
Th’ Straight Express Lost a Wheel
Obama won the day!
Obama’s going all the way…
to the White House!
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 9, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
– Obama: No Hand on Heart for National Anthem –
Oh Natasha, this one is so lame it’s even on snopes!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp
Can’t wait to see what you come up with next.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 9, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Posted by: SmallBiz241 | Oct 10, 2008 3:51:01 AM
1. Obama only intends to RESTORE taxes to the levels they were at under President Ronald Reagan.
2. If you can come up with some way to pay down the deficit that DOES NOT involve restoring a higher tax rate (from its currently artificially low rate, as set by Pres. Bush), I’m sure we’d all love to hear it.
3. McCain is all about cutting taxes, but he never says how he’s going to pay down the deficit. I’m sorry, cutting “earmarks” is just not going to solve the problem. Maybe if McCain actually had a proposal he’d be running a more competitive campaign. As it is, his proposal consists of reducing federal revenue, which will only inflate the current deficit even more – a recipe for disaster.
4. If you don’t like the tax rate, move to Bermuda. :-) I hear their rates are exceptionally low, many American corporations already have their headquarters there, and the weather is fine.
The rest of us Americans want to put our financial house in order, a first step involves paying down the federal debt, and that means raising taxes.
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 10, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
You say Ayers, and I say terrorist.
You say Wright, and I say Racist.
Racist, terrorist, terrorist, racist, let’s call Obama out.
You say Razko, and I say corruption.
You say ACORN, and I say voter fraud.
Corruption, fraud, fraud, corruption,
let’s call Obama out.
You say small town, Obama says bitter
You say America, Obama says not proud
Bitter, not proud, not proud, bitter,
let’s call Obama out.
Posted by: SmallBiz241 | October 10, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am
McCain is so fake even his own side starting to raise their voices:
Kathleen Parker: “Only Palin can save McCain, her party and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.
Do it for your country.”
David Brooks: “Sarah Palin represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party.”
Doc Thompson: McCain is breaking from the free-market principles that Virginia conservatives support and not stopping “the march toward socialism”.
Wow, coming from your ‘supporters’ it must be hard to have a fatal cancer VP candidate and a socialist on the top of the ticket.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am
From an article by RFK Jr.
Palin’s husband Todd was an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/alaskan-independence-part_b_133261.html
Palin is about as UN-AMERICAN as they come!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 10, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
It is not custom to place ones hand over the heart for singing the National Anthem… only for the Pledge of Allegiance.
Posted by: Fannie Mae Green | October 10, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Oh lord.. SmallBiz241 is another one of Natashas personalities!
Biz.. the top 5% of this country earn more than $250. The top 1% controls roughly 40% of this countries wealth. For those of you making more than $250K, taxes will return to levels below what they were under Clinton. Corporate tax rates will remain the same, which really doesn’t matter much, since the corporate tax code has so many loopholes that most corporations do not contribute to the federal tax pool anyway (For example, Cisco and Microsoft pay zip in federal taxes).
If you are indeed a small biz, only slightly over 2% of them, according to IRS data, generate over $250K in personal income.
Please see:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Posted by: SmallBiz241 | Oct 10, 2008 4:07:34 AM
SmallBiz, you’re fooling yourself if you think this stuff matters to most voters.
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That sort of nonsense is only going to turn out the Republican base, currently between 30% and 35% of the American population.
If you can’t come up with something more compelling than a handful of marginal relationships Obama has had with various folks over his political career, then McCain’s campaign is indeed dead in the water.
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The more you post about Ayers, Rezko, etc. the more I see a blow-out this Nov. 4!
LOL
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 10, 2008, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Hey Bullwinkle,
Are you honestly suggesting that the 850 billion in new spending that Obama has suggested will help balance the budget?
Reducing spending is the best method. If we could operate on the same federal budget we had in 2000, we would have a surplus of over 1 TRILLION per year. McCain hasn’t committed to that, but at least he wants to LOWER spending rather than increase it.
Raising taxes seems attractive to politicians, but higher taxes are only helpful when the economy is good and a lot of money is changing hands. Higher taxes also has the effect of discouraging business. For example, Obama’s corporate tax increase will result directly in 1) increased prices on all goods and services made in America, 2) increased unemployment as small businesses like mine lay off all nonessential workers, 3) job migration out of the country. These factors slow the economy and reduce the tax base. So, raising taxes is a catch-22. It may fill the coffers briefly, but once it kills the economy it is diminishing returns. Not to mention the effect of disincentivizing excellence and productivity.
If Obama were to raise the corporate tax rate as he plans, I will be letting 20 employees go. I will not allow the identity and policies of the president of the United States to cause the failure of my business. So, save up your tax refund, because you will be paying it many times over in increased costs of goods and services as businesses like mine adjust to an Obama presidency. And pray that your job is absolutely essential to the day-to-day operations of your employer, because if it is not you may well find yourself not having to worry about paying taxes at all.
PS The top tax rate at the end of Reagan’s term was 28%. If that is Obama’s target, then I am pretty cool with that. However, when Reagan first entered office, he inherited a 70% top rate from Jimmy Carter. Obama has already broken his promise on public funding of the campaign, I do not believe in his promises where money or taxes are concerned. He didn’t even have the grace to wait until after he was elected to start breaking promises.
Posted by: SmallBiz241 | October 10, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 10, 2008 4:13:41 AM
Thanks for your detailed last post.
I’ll keep that info in mind the next time someone like SmallBiz tries to pass off some more voodoo economics.
For my part, I try to point out to Republicans that Obama is not so much intent on “raising taxes” as he is about restoring taxes more or less to the same rates that applied under their favorite President Ronald Reagan, the original “Tax-cutter & Spender”.
Posted by: Bullwinkle | October 10, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Mickey Mouse: (that goes to left-wing-liberals-socialists-marxists BHO supporters):
It will be over in a day or two! Palin is NOT the one running for President – Barack Hussein Obama is!(you forgot?)
The American people (the morally sound American patriotic people that is) are not as stupid as you think. Obama’s character and judgement regarding his association with terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals are NOT going to go away – trust me!
We know that the media clowns and the left-wing-liberals will try to make a bigger deal of that “drunk on the job” state trooper/Palin issue than the Obama/Ayers association! That’s OK …(America votes for the top of the ticket, bambinos!)
If you think that the American people will be thinking of that “a—e” trooper on election day and not Obama’s “sweet deals” with Ayers and other Chicago criminals you must be smoking something really funny!
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
As to the associations of these candidates, McCaine’s involvement in the keating five probe is much worst than sitting on a board with someone who did something dispicable when you were eight years old. Based on what is going on in the economy with banks, the Keating debacle shows that mcCaine has terrible judgement and laxed knowledge. He is always involved in things that work against the economic well being of the country. Another important area is his call for the privitization of social security. What would happen if all of the people security(retirement savings accounts) was presently tied up in wall street?
I will continue to repeat that McCaine is incompetent and has ridden an incident that was the result of that incompetence to the threshold of the presidency. But it seems that the american people like presidents that are not the top of their class.
So much for telling kids to strive for good grades when the Republicans always want the country to elect incompetent, bumbling C students.
Posted by: mal | October 10, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
To all of you who say that John McCain is a traitor I want to tell you that you would do the same that he did if someone were beating you everyday and you feared for your life! They even broke both of his arms and one of his legs! There is just so much torture that ANYONE can take including John McCain or you! After a while you would do the same thing that he did just to stop them from hurting you!
Posted by: carlyonsue | October 10, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Obama and Ayers on Walter Annenberg’s charity board. Ronald Reagan appointed Annenberg as an ambassador. So by association as configured by Repubs, Annenberg and Reagan are terrorist sympathizers.
Posted by: Lisa | October 10, 2008, 12:40 am 12:40 am
– association with terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals are NOT going to go away – trust me! –
And McCain sure wishes they would.. bet he wishes he never sat on the board of the USCWF. You know, that american branch of the WACL which had ties to ultra-right figures and Latin American death squads. Roger Pearson, the chairman of the WACL, was expelled from the group in 1980 under allegations that he was a member of a neo-Nazi organization. Sure wish they never covertly provided funds and arms to the Contras so they could overthrow the Nicaraguan government, circumventing the law as he did.
And I bet that he wishes he hadn’t supported legislation to fund and arm the Kosovo Liberation Army.. you know, that group of Islamic militant terrorists responsible for mass murders, church burnings, torture and rape of innocent civilins over there in Kosovo. And I sure he wishes that the Albanian American Citizen League would stop giving him money and praise for his help getting arms to the KLA. And I bet the Congress never wrote that white paper expressing concerns with the KLA, particularly with their funding method of drug running and other criminal activities, not to mention the other nasty stuff. And I really bet he hadn’t expressed his support for US involvement in Kosovo during the 2nd presidential debate.. another open mouth insert foot moment he seems to be having a lot of lately.
Not only supported terrorism, but circumvented the law. Hey, that also sounds a little like Bush!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/why-mccains-time-with-cou_n_132470.html
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Just to provide a little personal insight regarding Indonesia. I am in Jakarta, Indonesia right now. I’ve been coming here for over five years. It’s true that there have been clashes between Muslims and Christians in parts of Indonesia, though in my view, Jakarta is more tolerant. Although some 9% of Indonesians are Christian, I suspect that the percentage is much higher here in Jakarta. I am Christian, and recognizably American. Yet, during all the visits I have made to this country, not once has anyone shown anything other than kindness and respect to me. It has not been unusual for me to walk down the street and have children look up and say, “Hi Mister,” with wide smiles on their faces. These are good, caring people. I don’t look at them and see Muslims or Christians; I see human beings who have dignity and deserve respect. I’m not saying that there are no radical Muslims. But the same can be said for Christians. As is the case in life, if you are persistent you will always find that for which you look.
Posted by: lionheart46 | October 10, 2008, 12:50 am 12:50 am
– make a bigger deal of that “drunk on the job” state trooper/Palin issue –
Please check your facts (again) Natasha.. the ‘issue’ isn’t about Palin and a state trooper.. it was her abuse of power while in office, and one of the things that was looked at was her termination of the Alaska Public Safety Commissioner for refusal to fire a trooper.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Concerned Americans, Palin is a true American. She believes in the right to bear arms, freedom of religion, and lower taxes. Not like Obama who stands for Marxism which goes against the very individualist fiber of America. Obama who says we are clinging to our bibles and our guns and should pay more taxes and our business should pay more taxes for us. Obama is for people who don’t want to work and want the government to care for them
Posted by: Hank | Oct 5, 2008 6:23:51 PM
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Yeap! Obama will be having us wait on line so he distribute a quarter of a loaf of bread to each one of us like in the good old Sobiet Union! There will ne no rich people in America- we are all going to be equal under Obama the Messiah (that is what Carl Marx was preaching to the masses).
You know, this is freaking scary! Come to think of it that’s how it all started in Russia and we all know the result of the October Revolution!
Here, the Obama Movement is a Communist Revolution…..look at the economic conditions – that is exactly what he is taking advantage of to get his Movement (Revolution) going!
Oh Lord, help us… an Obama Marxist Revolution?… and the month is…October! (Brrrrrrrr!)
Oh my God! Carl Marx was a sweet talker also! BHO has blind-folded all of us! And we have fallen asleep at the switch fearful about our “economy” – that is exactly how Obama wants us to be so he can bring his “Change”…
America will never be the same as we knew it if Obama proceeds with his … “Marxist Style Change” !!
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
Today is TROOPERGATE!!!!
Posted by: Carrie | October 10, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
You do have a vivid imagination there Natasha.
Posted by: Concerned American | October 10, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
– make a bigger deal of that “drunk on the job” state trooper/Palin issue –
Please check your facts (again) Natasha.. the ‘issue’ isn’t about Palin and a state trooper.. it was her abuse of power while in office, and one of the things that was looked at was her termination of the Alaska Public Safety Commissioner for refusal to fire a trooper.
Posted by: Concerned American
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Marxist Moron- stop patronizing me…
I know exactly what its is all about – keep reading your ABC and watching CNN -I get my knews from more serious sources and with much better analysis – you may want to try reading some serious mewspapers and for a change from “mickey mouse news” try BBC, Deutsche Welle…that is to name just a few.
Try as hard as you may – the palin issue is not going to affect the election as much as Obama’s sweet deals with convicted terrorists!
Are you that NAIVE???!!!
Hey- STOP writing with a half a dozen different names, Mickey Mouse!
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
October is OHBTERROGATE
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
OCTOBER IS OHBTERRORGATE!!!!!
OCTOBER IS ACORNGATE !!!!!
***OBAMA+AYERS***
BOOOOOOOOOO!!
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
Just wondering who really needs to care so much about what Senator Obama did in the past. Or what Senator McCain did in the past. Absolutely, each person’s past contributes to who they are. But it’s often the very errors we make when we are young that make us better, stronger people as we get older. But that’s our own choice. It’s what we do with what we’ve learned that shapes who we are. If it’s all about judgment, look at the person today, then decide. I don’t care about Senator Obama’s or Senator McCain’s past. In truth, in today’s world I can search for, find, and read whatever I want, and believe anything I choose to believe, then document as many reasons as I need to justify that belief, molding them to meet my own desires. And I can keep doing that again and again, reinforcing my own belief, often blind to my own prejudices. That’s what many people have done, including myself. Just look around at what is happening today before your eyes.
And so, now I choose to examine who these candidates are today, right now. And I especially look at how they respond under pressure, how they think, and how they communicate. Most importantly for me is, do they have a positive outlook? Do they think positively? Act positively? It was Abraham Lincoln who once said that people are just about as happy as they make up their minds’ to be. It’s not the circumstances of our lives that make us happy, it is our own choice to be happy, even in the most dire of circumstances. With a positive philosophy we can shape our own lives for the better, rather than being aroused and engulfed by negativity. You can believe what I say, or not. Some people will, some won’t. After all, it’s your choice.
Posted by: lionheart46 | October 10, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Ayers is already old news.
Today is Troopergate day!
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 1:31 am 1:31 am
Absolutely, each person’s past contributes to who they are.
lionheart46
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Absolutely, Obama’s past – associations with terrorists/radicals and a lunatic pastor for some 20+ years certainly have contributed to who Barack Obama is!
So- in your opinion if 10 or 20 years from now an American is found to have had ties with Osama Bin Laden or some other terrorist we should have no problem electing him/her President because so many years have passed! Even in the event that the person has absolutely nothing to do with Osama bin Laden or any other terrorist for…many years!
This is a “pretty speech” but let’s get back to real life and our concerns as citizens of this great country who is about to elect a President! This is not a PR contest or a contest in which people to appear “politically correct”.
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:41 am 1:41 am
VOIGHT: My concerns for America
Obama sowing socialist seeds in young people
The Washington Post
Associated Press
We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.
The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away.
Those same leaders who were in the streets in the ’60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war and to attack our president, and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.
Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we’ve almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake.
If Mr. Obama had his way, he would have pulled our troops from Iraq years ago and initiated an unprecedented bloodbath, turning over that country to the barbarianism of our enemies. With what he has openly stated about his plans for our military, and his lack of understanding about the true nature of our enemies, there’s not a cell in my body that can accept the idea that Mr. Obama can keep us safe from the terrorists around the world, and from Iran, which is making great strides toward getting the atomic bomb. And while a misleading portrait of Mr. Obama is being perpetrated by a media controlled by the Democrats, the Obama camp has sent out people to attack the greatness of Sen. John McCain, whose suffering and courage in a Hanoi prison camp is an American legend.
Gen. Wesley Clark, who himself has shame upon him, having been relieved of his command, has done their bidding and become a lying fool in his need to demean a fellow soldier and a true hero.
This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America. If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way.
Jon Voight is an Academy Award-winning actor who is well-known for his humanitarian work.
The Washingtom Post
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/
Posted by: Natasha | October 10, 2008, 1:48 am 1:48 am
You Obama supporters are nuts first Rev. Wirght / Bill Ayers / Tony Rezko /ACORN and now this!
Farrakhan thinks Obama is the Messiah? You Obama supporters are SICK!
Farrakhan on Obama: ‘The Messiah is absolutely speaking’
‘Barack has captured the youth,’ will bring about ‘universal change’
Addressing a large crowd behind a podium with a Nation of Islam Saviour’s Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaims,
“You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”
Posted by: chuck | October 10, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
The Republican Statergy
“We suck, but what about this accusation….”
YAWN
Posted by: Hear the Despersation | October 10, 2008, 2:26 am 2:26 am
Every negative ad John McCain makes Obama gain lead in the polls. Virginia, who has voted republican the last 10 elections, is going blue cos they know how fake McCain is. Obama leads in Virginia 49% over McCain 45%.
“CNN/TIME/Opinion Research Corporation poll conducted September 28-30 shows Obama with an even bigger lead over McCain, 53 percent to 44 percent. The CNN poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.”
Keep up the negatives. In Wisconsin Obama leads by 5 points. A state that was won by 1% in 2000 & 2004.
The map is going blue, and McCains face is going red. Its good to see the common people of America arent extremists.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 2:29 am 2:29 am
$300 BILLION MORE TAX DOLLARS to bail out banks holding bad mortgages?
I’m tired of McCain’s SOCIALIST policies!
That’s just so much fun to say!
Posted by: Oh the Irony | October 10, 2008, 2:30 am 2:30 am
The republican ticket:
A socialist on top and a fatal cancer as VP. Said by their “own”.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 2:32 am 2:32 am
So John McCain wants to associate Obama with Ayers as being connected to a terrorist. Then why is John McCain accepting money and listed the number two person on his list of his former Ambassadors who supports McCain, Annenberg. Annenberg is the perason who put Ayers on the board of the Annenberg Foundation that Obama worked on with Ayers. Doesn’t that also show McCain is associating with terrorist loving people and accepting their money? What deep dark secret is McCain keeping from everyone. I mean the person who installed Ayers to be a board member on her foundation is backing & supporting McCain is like having the terrorist cell leader supporting you and you gladly put Annenberg as the second person on your list of supporters and campaign contributors. Does that mean McCain also associates with a leading terrorist by his own definition?
Posted by: doug | October 10, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
McCain seems very concerned about a domestic act of terrorism from forty years ago. I on the other hand am very concerned about the FINANCIAL ACTS OF TERRORISM that are happening right now and which also happened in the Keating Five mess. The Senate went easy on McCain and only said he showed poor judgment. But I remember that he went twice and tried to stop the investigation of a guy who ruined many people. The policies and laws that McCain fought so hard for in his efforts to be “the greatest deregulater” are the very things that allowed Wall Street to get so greedy that it self destructed. As a result, the country and in fact the world, are on the brink of economic disaster. Many people will die as a result of this. Some in wars, some as a result of less food supplies, some as a result of wealthier nations having less money to give for charity–but many people will die. There has never been an act of physical terrorism that killed as many people as this disaster will claim. I don’t care about some little bomb in a cloakroom that didn’t hurt any people and wasn’t even supposed to hurt any people forty years ago. I care about the acts of people that John McCain enabled with his deregulation. I care about the results we face now from
FINANCIAL TERROISM!!!!!
Posted by: karela | October 10, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Talk about spliting hairs ABC, the substance of what he said was correct!!!
Take the lipstick off of the pig and tell the story for the reader to draw his own conclusions……
Posted by: tom albright | October 10, 2008, 2:38 am 2:38 am
I hope McCain and Parrot keep using this as their main talking point!
While Obama and Biden are showing leadership and telling Americans how they can help our country, McCain and Parrot are spending their days name calling.
People see the news. The know the economic situation, and they know McCain is plummeting in the polls.
McCain and Parrot’s sad display just proves they can’t win on issues. They have no plan. They have no vision.
Team GOP is just an sad, eratic old man and his insult spewing sarcastic parrot.
Last week Obama ran 36% negative ads, McCain 100%!
(And how’s that working out?)
Americans want a leader. Americans need a team with vision, a plan, and hope for our future. That’s Obama/Biden.
McCain and Parrot only offer name calling and smears. It’s the “We suck, but what about this accusation” strategy.
That’s why, unlike he did in Iraq, McCain and Parrot should start working on an exit stategy.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | October 10, 2008, 2:43 am 2:43 am
Oh by the way just another thought. Isn’t John McCain associated with people who associate with people you want to tear America apart? Didn’t Sarah Palin give three diferent speeches at the Alaskan Independance Party’s conventions? Who’s docturine is to break away from the US? Also wasn’t Todd Palin Sarah’s husband a member of the party that wanted to take away US assests by tearing apart the US and becoming their own country right around the time that that McCain insists that Obama associated with Ayers, who was installed to the board that they both worked on by one of his own supporters & contributors? What’s McCain answer to this burning burning question? I guess he doesn’t see that he also is associating with some kind of terrorist link or even worst traitors who want to break up the US.
Posted by: doug | October 10, 2008, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Just went over to FOX. 5 of 6 political tag lines are anti-Obama. The othr is about how Palin is “cleared of wrong doing” (though it’s not the real investigation report).
Yah, they don’t have an agenda.
They’re unbisaed. They say so every day.
OBAMA/BIDEN – The only positive choice in this election!
Posted by: From the gutter | October 10, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am
McCain and Parrot only offer name calling and smears. It’s the “We suck, but what about this accusation” strategy.
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So TRUE!
No solutions, no direction, no plan…just distraction = McCain.
Posted by: Dave in VA | October 10, 2008, 3:01 am 3:01 am
4,000 dead Americans in Iraq. Iraq was never a threat to America. Look at the video of the first war. Now there was competence.
This is a war personally waged by Cheney and the Republican party that has killed more Americans, for no other reason than to satisfy one person’s ego,
than all the terrorist acts against this country.
Cheney and the republicans are the real terrorists in this country.
Vote American. Vote against the anti American Republican party.
Posted by: Steve W | October 10, 2008, 3:03 am 3:03 am
I just think this headline on CNNs political ticker is HILLARIOUS:
“AP: Palin pre-empts state report, clears self in probe”
Thats just…wow…I dont even know what to say. It should be illegal to be as stupid as Palin.
Palin – the fatal cancer.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
The end of the Ayers issue is confined to a few short TRUTHS that no one with a working knowledge of the subject can contest. – EVERY government employee (including military) with access to secure information MUST undergo a THOROUGH background check by the FBI. There are NO exceptions. EVER. If Barack Obama (or any other person) failed that check, they would be denied that clearance/status. Neither Obama or Todd Palin (who the left shouts is guilty of secessionist intent) have FAILED that investigation at this point. That is THE bottom line.
Posted by: Jay G | October 10, 2008, 3:06 am 3:06 am
So the Annenberg Foundatiion gave Ayers and his colleagues $40+ million for education reform. And Annenberg’s widow has endorsed McCain. So terrorist Financiers are in bed with McCain.
Posted by: nh bob | October 10, 2008, 3:07 am 3:07 am
Chuck, If you go to the dictionary you will find that not only is messiah a reference to the biblical jewish saviour, but also it can be used to define “any expected deliverer”or “zealous leader of some cause”. Now I know you have high jewish or christian regard for Farrakhan so I guess you think he is calling Obama Jesus or the second coming, which he doesnt believe in by the way, but considering Farrakhan isnt Jewish nor Christian, I would expect as a rational man, that he is referencing Obama to the second definition. As an expected deliverer of Hope and Change for America. A zealous leader of the cause which is most important to us.
Posted by: JJ | October 10, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Palin Clears Self – great story.
Also in the news, O.J. Simpson finds self not guilty.
Posted by: nh bob | October 10, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
Question that I would like to be answered. ABC – Political Radar: Please tell us why are you not reporting on the ACORN voter fraud issue that is popping up all over this country?? And the fact that Obama is front and center? I find it interesting that you are ignoring this. You are working for the American people. Do your job for god’s sake.
At least some of the media tells it like it is…I found this article…
For starters, Obama paid ACORN, which has endorsed him for president, $800,000 to register new voters, payments his campaign failed to accurately report. (They were disguised in his FEC disclosure as payments to a front group called Citizen Services Inc. for “advance work.”)
What’s more, Obama worked as executive director of ACORN’s voter-registration arm, Project Vote, in 1992.
Posted by: ml | October 10, 2008, 3:21 am 3:21 am
talk about friends:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
American Independent Voters for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Independent Voters | October 10, 2008, 3:23 am 3:23 am
How about the contributions:
Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.
Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees.
There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for the wall street crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 when this all started makes the answer pretty clear.
Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that’s worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.
Posted by: Independent Voters | October 10, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Because there is a chance for Barack Obama to win the race for US President, we are advising people holding a US dollar cash position to move your cash into the Japanese Yen and the Swiss Franc. The dollar rally appears to be temporary. In addition, adding gold (not gold stocks) is advisable to round out a portfolio.
The Democrats have caused a world banking failure by lowering credit requirements in the Jimmy Carter and the Bill Clinton administrations. It is not possible to service all the debt created by Democrat federal regulations. President Bush and John McCain saw the problem in Freddie and Fannie in 2005, but Barack Obama and his Democratic friends ignored the financial problem. This alone makes John McCain the better choice for a US President.
Recapitalization of high-risk banks must subside. If not, it will be necessary to print money without the proper backing with gold. The more money that is printed, the more inflation will rise.
Barack Obama’s economic plan will raise inflation and lower the value of the dollar. There is not sufficient capital to fund all of Barack Obama programs. Because Barack Obama flip-flops his economic plans, there is no way to give any accurate financial direction. However, we suggest considering the India, Hong Kong, and China markets.
American Independent Voters for John McCain and Sarah Palin
Posted by: Independent Voters | October 10, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
“Washed-up old terrorist” pretty well sums you up, Senator McCain.
Here’s a real American hero:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2003562133&zsection_id=2002111777&slug=watada8m&date=20070208
“What I was saying was that I intentionally missed the movement because I felt like participating in that movement would make me a participant in war crimes and an illegal war. … I have always believed that I had a legal and moral defense,” Watada told the judge. “I realize that what the government is arguing is contrary, but that does not negate that belief.”
Posted by: mic | October 10, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
Palin- wrong on every count: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_OIL_EXPORTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-10-09-21-03-10
The so called ‘energy expert’ doesnt know her a** from a hole in the ground.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am
This is all thats left for this old man and his time bomb to yack about.She is a crook using her power he is washed up with no new ideas.Sorry same old crap not for us….
Posted by: NH voter | October 10, 2008, 3:31 am 3:31 am
For Barak to be so much for the common man he sure has friends in high places, all loaded with money; Ayers,Farrakan,al-Monsour (Don Sutton),ten dollar mansion man, reverend Wright, thief and business partner Rezco.
“Birds of a feather flock together”.
Posted by: david | October 10, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Put on your DEPENDS DIAPERS MCCAIN AND CHECK INTO A NURSING HOME–BUT BEFORE YOU DO GO TO CONFESSION FIRST–CONFESSING YOUR SINS SHOULD TAKE UP THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. WHAT A SLEAZEBALL !!!
Posted by: Dan A | October 10, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
david, This coming from a supporter of a guy with 10 houses and 15 cars. A friend of NOTHING but millionaires. McCain doesnt even know ANYONE who is the common man. At least Obama, as a community organizer, has dealt with the common person.
Posted by: Jo | October 10, 2008, 3:39 am 3:39 am
John McCain and his all lobbyist staff – his board membership on the Anti-communist hero league or the world that was associated with right wing death squads – his hiring Richard Quinn – editor in chief of Souther Partisan – the pro-slavery pro secessionist right wing rag – McCain’s courting of Hagee who calls the Catholic Church the “great whore of Babylon” – his embrace of Rod “let’s bomb Iran now” Parsley – it goes on and on – haven’t even gotten to Charles Keating yet….
Posted by: nh bob | October 10, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
John McCain and Sarah Palin are both “honorable” candidates, like the conspirators who killed Caesar and said they did it for the good of Rome. I guess they think slinging mud, no make that blood, makes them honorable and they can justify it by saying their blood letting campaign is for the good of this country because they are such patriots. A true United States Patriot stands up to unjust wars. A true United States Patriot does not support lies about the war in Iraq. A true United States Patriot does NOT send this nation’s young people into an unjust war to destroy a country so it can be controlled by the Republican oil men. McCain and Palin are NOT patriots. Both are only interested in their own self-serving benefits of office. Their recent lies, cheap tricks, and downright stupid antics should make EVERY PATRIOT IN THIS COUNTRY VOTE OBAMA-BIDEN. God, grant us the wisdom to select cool-headed, wise leaders, who seek more level-headed solutions than merely BOMB,BOMB, BOMB!
Posted by: Terresa | October 10, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
As an American Living in Europe I see things a little different than most Americans. I served in the first Gulf War and I am a veteran of 20 plus years.
The current situation in the U.S. and the world situation at present, calls for a President that will lead and is not out of sync with the world. If all you can do is to point fingers and start slamming mud around you are not a leader and not in sync with the rest of the country or the world. I will not cast my vote for someone like that and I think that is also true of many Americans. The Obama campaign is not digging up trash that wasn’t already there. The McCain campaign is trying hard to find something to throw out there to get votes. Seems like desperation has set in to me. For all of the respect that I have for a Veteran that was a POW, it is very saddening to see that John McCain has forgotten how to lead in a desperate situation. To Sarah Palin all I can say is that she flat out talks more crap and is slinging more mud than she should be in her current situation. That also is not any form leadership. To the McCain/Palin campaign: The old military saying “Either, Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way!” applies. So get the hell out of the way, your not impressing anyone with these political tactics. Mr. Obama has a plan, I’ve read it and believe it will work for the good of the country and the world. I’m voting for him and not for someone who wants four years to point fingers and place the blame on others. Its time to put a leader in the White House who is respected not only at home but around the world!
Posted by: Bill Perry | October 10, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
The economy is tanking and the repubs can’t let go of old lie and fear attacks of the Carl Rove era. Who really cares, Obama was 9 years ld when Ayers did his deeds. Its not relevant but saving America is.
Posted by: mike | October 10, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
Hey you republicans should spin around Michael Moore and replace Palin with a ficus.
Narration in ad:
“Sarah Palin doesnt know her a** from a hole in the ground, vote Ficus. His a** IS a hole in the ground.”
Whats really scary, in real life the ficus is smarter than Palin.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 3:40 am 3:40 am
“On 9/11″ or “Before 9/11″, WHO CARES?
The main issue is Obama befriended a terrorist.
For those who defend Obama choice of friend, let me ask you this question: would you befriend one of those 9/11 terrorists if he were still alive? Would you befriend Tim McVey if he were not executed for his bombing the federal building in Oklahoma City, which killed hundreds of people, including innocent children at a daycare center in that building?
Ayres was involved in the bombing of US government building. He is a terrorist. Yet Obama befriended him.
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 10, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Obama was eight years old when Ayers bombed a US government building. He was an adult when he and Ayers were invited by a prominant Republican (Annenberg) to be on a blue ribbon panel about education. Ayers, by this time, had done his jail time and turned his life around. He was an award winning and highly respected educator and college professor. It was during this time that Joe Voglar was forming the Alaska Indepence Party and advocating violent succession from the United States. Obama and Ayers went their separate ways after the education project. Todd and Sarah Palin got involved in the AIP, including Sarah speaking at their 2008 party convention. This was less than a year after she was aksed by her preacher to cast the “witches” out of government and embark on a journey to rid the country of all religions except the “right” religion. (Her preacher is guilty of accusing a woman of being a witch in his home town in Kenya, then having her run out of town by a mob. Her crime…she was alledgely responsible for a rash of traffic accidents.) Clearly, both McCain and Palin are trying to shift from talking about issues to swift boating. I find this ironic, because McCain was sift boated by Bush and vowed never to do anything so low, because the American public deserves better. He’s a liar and she’s a flake.
Posted by: algwriter | October 10, 2008, 3:57 am 3:57 am
You right- and left-wing talk boxes can ramble on ALL you want about Obama and Ayers, but I repeat…
The end of the Ayers issue is confined to a few short TRUTHS that no one with a working knowledge of the subject can contest. – EVERY government employee (including military) with access to secure information MUST undergo a THOROUGH background check by the FBI. There are NO exceptions. EVER. If Barack Obama (or any other person) failed that check, they would be denied that clearance/status. Neither Obama or Todd Palin (who the left shouts is guilty of secessionist intent) have FAILED that investigation at this point. That is THE bottom line.
It is an issue of National Security; not partisanship. No man with known terrorist associations will sit three chairs from the standing US President.
Posted by: Jay G | October 10, 2008, 3:58 am 3:58 am
NoNonsense-Comparing Ayers to Tim Mcveigh or the 911′s is a stretch of the imagination, considering that Ayers went out of his way to ensure that people were not harmed, and Mcveigh went out of his way to harm people, even children. Ayers agenda wasnt to kill anyone, it was to bring to like the atrocious behavior of the american military machine in asia. I know he is considered a “terrorist” but so were our freedom fighters of the american revolution. Terrorist title can be applied to anyone who is opposed to your way of thinking, and uses their ideology to strike at the heart of that problem, but we should distinguish between those who want to harm innocents and those who want to harm interests. Ayers considered the military terrorists because they targetted women and children in vietnam. I am not condoning his actions, but you are painting a much too wide swath of your term terrorist. Benjamin Franklins son was considered a terrorist because he raided towns in the name of the british crown, he was a royalist.
Posted by: Jo | October 10, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am
mccains lame attacks are a sighn of what he is —desperate–desperate–and comimg from a guy who should have been tried for treason years ago—-he is nothing more than an evil little man–cindy and palin came to pa and tried to incite the white extremest—-these people are getting a little sick—-or should we say sicker.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
maybe we should fully expose mccain and his relation with the north vietnamese.
that would be a real story—-sing on old songbird of the hanoi hilton.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am
Bill Ayers helped Barack Obama find a home near his house and Tony Rezko help him buy it.
Posted by: wadddogg | October 10, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
**McCain should NOT give up on this! In fact he should bring out more things like this about Obama! We need to know about all of associates and about all of the corruption that he’s been involved in!**
Then let’s also bring up the iran/contra scandal, the savings and loan downfall, the skull & Bones club, etc… Funny, how everyone wants to jump on this and forget all the things McSame was involved in and let’s not forget about all the Palin ghosts either!
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:13 am 4:13 am
bullwinkle run run—the evil boris and natasha are after you—the gouls want to eat you—–shame on the badenoughs.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:14 am 4:14 am
Hey ABC, How and WHY did the Republican Party just get an 8 million $$ bailout from failing Wachovia Bank?? Wachovia stiffs it’s stockholders but has the money to bail out the Repubs??
Posted by: Clint | October 10, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am
jennifer—–introduce them to the songbird of the hanoi hilton—we still cannot figure how many lives he may have cost us.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:16 am 4:16 am
This is just in on CNN: “McCain faces conservative backlash over mortgage plan”
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/mccain.mortgages/index.html
Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin: “We’re Screwed ’08.”
Conservatives are tired of the socialist McCain!
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
How about the character check on McCain. The man who cheated on and then dumped his first wife for a floozy with money?
Posted by: Richard | October 10, 2008, 4:19 am 4:19 am
Recapitalization of high-risk banks must subside. If not, it will be necessary to print money without the proper backing with gold. The more money that is printed, the more inflation will rise.
Barack Obama’s economic plan will raise inflation and lower the value of the dollar. There is not sufficient capital to fund all of Barack Obama programs. Because Barack Obama flip-flops his economic plans, there is no way to give any accurate financial direction. However, we suggest considering the India, Hong Kong, and China markets.
There is a saying to not throw good money after bad money. Unfortunately, Barack Obama’s economically program does just that. The government can’t continue to support everyone’s wish list with creating more of a financial crisis.
American Independent Voters for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
Posted by: Independent Voters | October 10, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
I was on a board of a non-profit for six years. I realize now that I made a very serious mistake by not obtaining extensive background checks on every member of the board and all employees of the organization. We didn’t discuss politics or our earlier lives at board meetings, so how was I to know? Who were they really? Terrorists? I guess I’ll never be able to run for President now.
Posted by: Steve | October 10, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
mccain is here he is there he has the answer to everything—-THE WRONG ANSWER——BUT COULD YOU EXPECT MORE FROM THE —-D—STUDENT—YOU KNOW THE ONE –THE ONE YOUR TEACHER PASSED JUST TO GET RID OF HIM.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
WANT TO LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT CHARACTER——LOOK IN LIBRARY FOR OLD NEWSPAPERS CIRCA 1969—-GET TO KNOW THE REAL MCCAIN.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
Really, jo? Here’s what SLATE said on Ayers (you know SLATE is not pro-McCain):
“Ayers omits any discussion of his famous 1970 statement, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” He also omits any discussion of his wife Bernardine Dohrn’s famous reaction to the Manson killings, as conveyed by journalist Peter Collier: “Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!” (In a 1993 Chicago Magazine profile, Dohrn claimed, implausibly, that she’d been trying to convey that “Americans love to read about violence.”)”
Calling people to kill their parents is not only a terrorist act, IT IS INHUMANE.
http://www.slate.com/id/1008160/
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 10, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am
I FULLY EXPECTED TO SEE MCCAIN IN A SHEET AND PILLOWCASE WHEN CINDY AND PALIN WERE IN PA SPEWING HATRED.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am
**jennifer—–introduce them to the songbird of the hanoi hilton—we still cannot figure how many lives he may have cost us**
True, so true. And how his father got him in the academy and he finished at the bottom of the class. Then got him in pilot school where his peers said he was the worst pilot ever. He crashed 5 jets and was hotdogging on the deck of a navy carrier and injured several crew members. And BTW I am a veteran and it irks me how he uses his military background to try and make himself look like a hero when he wasn’t!
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:31 am 4:31 am
DID I MISS SOMETHING OR IS AYERS RUNNING FOR OFFICE—-I WILL MAKE A BET WITH MOST ON HERE AND THAT IS AYERS HAS DONE MORE GOOD IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THAN YOU WILL DO THE REST OF YOUR LIVES—YOU KNOW THAT CHARITY THING.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
jennifer 132 dead
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am
Wow Rodney – thanks for posting that. People need to wake up and realize that McSame is not all that he makes himself out to be.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Mr Obama’s neighborhood is filled with socialists and guys like Ayers and Wright. They are the norm and respected in THAT community. Would they be in YOUR community?????
That is the real story.
Posted by: geevill | October 10, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Ethics watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, commonly referred to as “CREW,” has requested that the Senate Ethics Committee investigate whether Sen. John McCain failed to disclose gambling earnings as required by federal law and the Senate’s own rules.
Citing recent press reports, CREW alleges that McCain failed to disclose income earned from gambling on the personal financial disclosure forms he’s required to file as a senator. “Given Sen. McCain’s history of gambling on a regular basis over the years, it is nearly impossible to imagine that he never won over $200, the amount that triggers the reporting requirement,” CREW’s request says.
Posted by: Rodger | October 10, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
McCain has not always voted for money for the troops. On one troop-funding bill supported by Obama, McCain missed the vote and encouraged President Bush to veto it, because it did call for withdrawal.
Posted by: Jeff | October 10, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
i have been trying to tell them for months.they really need to get to know the real mccain—there are a lot of angry nam vets out here—i was not in the service but followed him carefully –as he is admiral mccain son the man in charge of the pacific fleet at that time—and son john was a great dissapointment to him–mccains angry behavior is that he is still trying to prove something–his father covered up a lot about him.
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
In mid 2007, Senator Reid noted that McCain missed 10 of the past 14 votes on Iraq. However, here is a summary of a dozen votes (two that he missed and ten that he voted against) with respect to Iraq, funding for veterans or for troops, including equipment and armor. I have also included other snippets related to the time period when the vote occurred.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/?Page=Article&ID=9559
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
Rodney you are right, yet again. All this dirt that McCain keeps talking about is just them trying to get the american people off his and Palin’s misdeeds and focused on something different. Really people do some research on the man.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
And this from the Army Times: The nation’s most prestigious group for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans released a congressional scorecard on Tuesday that ranks Republican presidential candidate John McCain as having one of the worst voting records when it comes to supporting troops and veterans.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_vets_congress_reportcard_100708/
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
as we can see the hero pow crap is not posted anymore he can run but he cannot hide from his dishonorable past—
got to go
talk later
Posted by: rodney | October 10, 2008, 4:57 am 4:57 am
John McCain is concerned that we are about to elect a wet behind the ears person of questionable character who will ruin America forever. He’s an old man. He hasn’t got a very long time left in this world, so it isn’t about him. He is simply concerned for our nation as he sees the stupidity of panicked voters like the ones who elected hitler. Doesn’t that concern you??
Posted by: Jose Cantanko | October 10, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
I’ve gone from having respect for you McCain, to being very disapointed to now feeling nothing but disgust for you and your pathetic ideas and hatred.
You always were in this race for yourself! Never for any other reason. And you will sink to any (ANY) level just so you can be called “Mr. President”
You sold your soul to the very powers you used to stand up against. And you are ready to use my hard earned savings to pad the bank accounts of those who already have more money than they know what to do with. You economic ideas are highway robbery! “Oh the lenders won’t have to shoulder any responsibility under my plan…but you tax payers will. But you’re OK with that right? After all, I’m not someone who knows someone who did something bad a long time ago.”
You are a pathetic old man.
Posted by: Greg in MN | October 10, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately ‘wet-started’ his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.
‘Wet-starts’, done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. ‘Wet starting’ was a common practice among young ‘hot-dog’ pilots.
In McCain’s case, the ‘wet-start’ ‘cooked off’ and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it’s 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.
134 Dead, the worst disaster for the Navy in the Vietnam War.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
Posted by: nononsense08 | Oct 10, 2008 8:27:43 AM
This is also a terrorist act.
“During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004
Posted by: J | October 10, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
Ayers,Ayers,Ayers…please give me a break! If this man is so much of a threat why is he free and a professor at a college.This is a sad attempt and slimy attack by the McCain camp to reenforce the hatred that is in the heart of some McCain supporters.
Posted by: TV | October 10, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am
America is on it’s way towards socialism. Get used to it. It’s like that in Europe and they are doing just fine. It’s not the end of the world. At least we’ll be taken care of (although it will be very crappy care to be sure) and we won’t all die. The economy is dictating that America of the past will be no more. It’s the perfect storm. Learn to adapt and quit your whining. Thanks to Bush and all the rich crooks on Wall Street we will put an end to lassez faire capitalism. It was a great 200 years for some, not so good for others. Now prepare to deal with it.
Posted by: John Stalinsky | October 10, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am
What is McCain’s plan to help make college more affordable for average Americans?
Posted by: TV | October 10, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
The “charitable” Joe: NBC Today just reported that despite Joe Biden’s claim of being “just another middle class Joe”, his tax records showed his combined income (including wife’s and book deal) was approximately $300,000. That’s not middle class, Joe. But wait, out of this 300-grand income, his charity donation was at the max $200.00. YES, TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS. Hm…that will make 0.067% of Joe’s income. Middle class? Catholic charity? LOL
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 10, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
What is McCain’s plan to help make college more affordable for average Americans?
Posted by: TV | Oct 10, 2008 9:09:00 AM
Same as the plan for the economy, he doesn’t have one.
Posted by: J | October 10, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
At the time of the Forrestal disaster, Admiral McCain (McCain’s father) was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds).
TV – does he have one? He is so busy trying to make Obama look bad I’m not sure where he stands on any issue!
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am
John has no plan to help folks go to college that I know of. He really just wants to nip the election of a possible low-life, nut job, leftist in the bud. He does this as an American hero. He is sacrificing for America. He would rather just rest, but he feels it is his duty to prevent the disaster the American people are about to inflict on themselves by electing a leftist extreme person to POTUS.
Posted by: Han Chang | October 10, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Posted by: nononsense08 | Oct 10, 2008 9:11:12 AM
How much is McCain and his wench worth? Are they middle class….I think not.
Posted by: J | October 10, 2008, 5:14 am 5:14 am
j (or is that jo?). McCain never claimed himself “middle class”. That’s the difference between a liar and truthful person.
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 10, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
nononsense08:
John McCain answered a question: at what income is a person “rich”?
John McCain answered ” how about 5 million dollars”. If McCain think thats the point of “rich” then a guy who earns 4 million dollars must be middle class.
John McCain doesnt know how many houses he owns. John McCain is out of touch.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 5:17 am 5:17 am
j (or is that jo?). McCain never claimed himself “middle class”. That’s the difference between a liar and truthful person.
Posted by: nononsense08 | Oct 10, 2008 9:16:29 AM
You have the nerve to talk about lying??? McCain and Palin every time they open their yaps a lie spills out…lol
Posted by: J | October 10, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
nononsense – I don’t think $300,000 a year is that much of a stretch to be middle class. Not anymore.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 5:21 am 5:21 am
Well, all I know right at this moment is that Joe Biden’s claim of being middle class (to appeal to the middle class Americans) on his +$300,000 income IS A LIE.
Jennifer, Obama’s own words “middle class = less than $250,000″. You may say $50-K difference doesn’t mean much to you. But to the real middle class people, that’s a lot of does.
Posted by: nononsense08 | October 10, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am
I should qoute exactly what John McCain said:
At a debate 16 august 2008, in Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California:
The question pastor Rick Warren asked was “Give me a number, give me a specific number.. where do you move from middle class to rich?”
John McCain: “If you’re just talking about income…..how about 5 million.”
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am
“At this point, if you still support Obama, you are OK with his very close relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor and priest. You are OK with his long-term friendship with an unrepentant terrorist. You are OK with his close friendship with a convicted felon. You are OK with the fact that he is complicit in the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac boondoggle. And you are OK with his attempts to steal the election through ACORN and voter intimidation. All of this has been reported by the MSM and is no longer a secret.
That said, in my opinion, if you still support Obama knowing all this, I have to question your patriotism. There is no political party or ideology which could coerce me into backing such a reprehensible individual to become the President of the United States. I just refuse to believe there are that many Americans out there who hate this country.”
Posted by: HP Boston | October 10, 2008, 5:37 am 5:37 am
“Jennifer, Obama’s own words “middle class = less than $250,000″. You may say $50-K difference doesn’t mean much to you. But to the real middle class people, that’s a lot of does.”
So nononsense08 i take it you dont agree with John McCains $5 million?
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 5:38 am 5:38 am
$50,000 is a lot of money to me, but I don’t think that makes it a lie by Biden. 250,000 – 300,000, not a big difference when you are talking about a line between classes. Now if he said that but come to find out he made a million, now that would constitute a big lie!
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
HP Boston – do not question my patriotism!!! I am a vet and really do not appreciate that! Keep the personal attacks to yourself. Oh wait – never mind you are a McSame supporter and that all you guys know how to do!!!
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 5:48 am 5:48 am
Does anyone acknowledge the fact that although Ayers had an infamous past, he is now a respected and “Distinguished Professor” at the University of Illinois with 2 Masters in Education and a Doctorate in Education.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Doesn’t every one in America deserve the right to be forgiven of their past. If Obama met him and worked with him while he was a prominent member of the Chicago elite, why are we questioning Obamas patriotism. How many of you have worked that hard to right the wrongs in your life, like Ayers has?
Posted by: Jae | October 10, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
I think the facts are clear people have no F&^%(ng idea how the real world works.I guess I will be punished for being a hard worker 60+ hours per week.
This way some lazy a$$ people will get the fruits of my labor.While I have no problem helping my fellow americans,I am tired of the excuses of deadbeats always looking to blame someone or make someone fix there mistakes.I am tired of people saying you dont know what it is like to struggle and not meet my bills,I do.I have not even graduated from high school and in this country I love I started with nothing and worked and worked and made it to a point where I own My own Buissness that employs 10 people.Under Obamas plans I would have been stuck in the mud.Life is about rolling the dice,taking a chance without failure there is no such thing as success.It saddens me to see Americans not wanting to live the American dream rather having it handed to them as some sort of right!!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | October 10, 2008, 6:15 am 6:15 am
In Letter to ‘NYT,’ Man Who Prosecuted Weather Underground Hits Linking Ayers to Obama
By E&P STaff
Published: October 10, 2008 9:00 AM ET
NEW YORK In a surprising a letter to the editor published in the New York Times today, the chief prosecutor of the Weather Underground in the 1970s expressed outrage over the linking of Barack Obama to Bill Ayers by the McCain campaign, adding, “Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.”
William C. Ibershof also corrects a charge in the Times: “I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of ‘prosecutorial misconduct.’ It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.”
Felt, of course (you may have already forgotten) was also known as a guy called “Deep Throat.”
The full letters follows.
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As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.
Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.
Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.
I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.
William C. Ibershof
Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008
Posted by: Rodger | October 10, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Rodger – wonder if McCain had any involvement in the case of the weather underground. Now that would be something I would like to know about. But actually I guess not, he was probably still in the military then.
Posted by: Jennifer | October 10, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am
McCain has become a dishonoroble man in his last ditch attempt to become president that he squandered his life’s work. He is out of touch with the American people and if he thinks he can be a dummy for VP, he’s also out of touch with the conservative movement. W. H. Buckley is rolling in his grave.
Posted by: AE | October 10, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Think John MCain is a military hero? Read some of the articles about how he leap frogged the Naval promotion system to become a Carrier Pilot when he was branded a lousy pilot. And al because his daddy and grandfather pulled strings just like Bush’s father did.
Think he knows a lot about military and how to fight a war. He had already crashed three planes before he was shot down. He only had twenty hours of actual combat hours when he didn’t use the evasive facilities on his plane and allowed himself to get shot down. Tortured? Just a few days in the torture, he was known as a “songbird” who told the Viet Gong everything he knew about the ships, when they would attack and in which order. Then after he returned to the States, all he wanted to do was go to Rio because he had a better chance of getting laid there even though he had a wife and three kids. This should all come out and dispel the notion that he is a nice guy. His only strength is that he is white and the Red Necks are scared shitless that a (half) Black man might end up running this country.
Sad state of affairs.
Posted by: Jakop | October 10, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
Haha i just found out that the ‘report’ that McCain campaign released that ‘clears’ Sarah Palin from any wrongdoing is 21 pages.
The real Troopergate report however is 263 pages.
Uh yeah… you ‘investigated’ yourself real good there Sarah, youbetcha doggone it.
What a joke the fatal cancer is.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
“At this point, if you still support Obama, you are OK with his very close relationship with a racist, anti-American pastor and priest. You are OK with his long-term friendship with an unrepentant terrorist. You are OK with his close friendship with a convicted felon. You are OK with the fact that he is complicit in the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac boondoggle. And you are OK with his attempts to steal the election through ACORN and voter intimidation. All of this has been reported by the MSM and is no longer a secret.
That said, in my opinion, if you still support Obama knowing all this, I have to question your patriotism. There is no political party or ideology which could coerce me into backing such a reprehensible individual to become the President of the United States. I just refuse to believe there are that many Americans out there who hate this country.”
Posted by: HP Boston | October 10, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am
IF OBAMA WINS, WHITES WILL RIOT IN SUBURBAN AMERICA! BE WARNED.
Posted by: FRED | October 10, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am
THE REAL RELATIONSHIP WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT
Let’s be very clear. The truth is yes, Barack Obama was on the Board of Directors for the Chicago Anneneberg Challenge. William Ayers helped to write the grant proposal that this group used to land $49.2 MILLION for the Chicago public schools. Where did this money come from? It was donated by Walter Annenberg, a lifelong Republican who served as the US Ambassador to the UK under President Richard Nixon and is well-known to have been good friends with Ronald Reagan.
At the end of the day, this relationship has brought much needed money into the public schools of one of our biggest cities.
There’s also another truth. John McCain has been voting in lockstep with the Bush Administration over the last eight years, endorsing Bush’s foreign policy and financial strategies. What has this cost the American taxpayer? We’re currently spending of $10 BILLION PER MONTH to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, wars that have lasted longer then World War I or World War II. Thousands of young Americans have given their lives in a war that John McCain said would be quick and easy with the Iraqis, “greeting us as liberators.” And the deregulation of the financial markets helped get us into another situation that is costing us an additional $700 BILLION.
Now tell me, which relationship has had a more damaging effect on our country? I don’t think it would take any of us too long to realize that we are much worse off now then we were eight years ago. And as much as the Republicans try to lay blame on the Democrats, common sense always tells us that whoever was in charge is to blame. The blame is rightfully fixed on the policies of George W. Bush, policies that John McCain has supported time and time again.
If there’s a relationship that we should really question, it is John McCain’s allegiance to George W. Bush.
Posted by: Dave | October 10, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am
The man, I thought would not fall into the tactics of the right wingers who have destroyed this country by fear and dividing us. This is how they won the last two elections, and look where they have got us into. The slogan says “Country First.” It is clear Country is last in their mind. All they care is winning at any cost, even diving and creating hatred among us.
Posted by: Naveen | October 10, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Senator Barack Obama has no moral compasss regarding bad relationships or bad behavior. He knew or should have know about Ayer’s terrorist activity and his political agenda, yet he chose to associate himself with this scum.
Also, it is the Democrats who are responsible for the sub-prime mortgage meltdown and the resulting economic downfall around the world. Even those in Paris or Berlin are blaming the US and the Democrats who put the legislation in place for people who could not afford/pay for homes. This happened duering the Clinton Adm. and now it is in full bloom. THE DEMOCRATS AND THEIR SOCIALIST AGENDA ARE 95% RESPONSIBLE. The Bush Administration is only responsible in the fact they did not purge such give-away housing programs. Obama, the candidate, like the idea of something for nothing approach. He has the same insane ideas for health care.
Posted by: Marla | October 10, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Haha Marla didnt you hear? Hugo Chavez welcomed Bush into the socialist club today (presumably McCain too since he is Bush’s lapdog).
McCains 300 billion bailout reveals McCain the socialist. The conservatives are failing McCain!
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/mccain.mortgages/index.html
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 10, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am
WOW, McCain is really getting desperate now! I can’t wait to see Barack Obama win the presidency. McCain is no maverick, he is just going to be four more years of the Bush policy. We need change!
http://www.congratstothewinners.com/2008/10/really-what-is-maverick.html
Posted by: Friendly Fred | October 10, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Certainly no person is perfect but I cannot remember a time when a politician EVER associated in ANY way with a DOMESTIC terrorist. The Democratic party used to be liberal in my thinking but I’m fully convinced that they are socialists who are intent upon dismantling this country’s identity. I am fully convinced that they believe they are doing the right thing and that Socialism is right for this country. I may have my beef with the Republican party and their erroneous diversion from what truly caused the greatest economic growth of our time which was Newt Gingrich’s Contract With America, but I will never ever be convinced to subscribe to Socialism. A socialist president with a socialist congress will cause much harm to this country. I sincerely hope the mainstream news media picks up on this and asks themselves if they truly want this to happen to our country.
Posted by: Jeff | October 10, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Maria, the reason we are into this mess is not Clinton or Democrats. After 9-11, George Bush and the republican congress with Greenspan created a policy and atmosphere of borrowing and spending. Look at their legislations about how much they themselves borrowed and spend. Banks thought money is free and they kept on lending and people kept on borrowing. The idea was that this will grow the economy and produce goods and services. It can, but if you pour too much water in a container which cannot handle it, it burst, and that is what happened. Banks were not getting money back from the lenders fast enough to sustain their business.
Posted by: Naveen | October 10, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am
The times are too serious to be pulling cheap dirty tricks like this. At home, we’ve got a heightening economic crisis, increasing joblessness threatening to undermine the livelihoods of entire towns, people’s retirement savings decimated, folks getting thrown out of their homes, and a regulatory framework guided by ideology rather than pragmatism. Overseas, we’re fighting two wars, an increasingly belligerent Iran, a resurgent Russia eager to reassert it’s influence on the former soviet bloc (and now Venezuela), Ukraine destabilized, China rising, and North Korea unresolved, our alliances strained due to our unilateralism..the global tectonic plates are shifting…and here we have John McCain playing these dirty totally irrelevant political games, blatantly repeating lies, inciting hate in the electorate, destabilizing the markets with his political maneuvers, appointing an extremist running mate who knows NOTHING about the economy and the world a 72-year old heartbeat away from presidency, and dividing the country along choices (guns, race, abortion, religion, left-right) that are totally irrelevant to this new and very threatening environment, and having absolutely no solid plans to get us out of it. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I cannot believe that John McCain is STILL not interested in challenging Obama’s plans, and presenting to the American public why his plans are PRACTICALLY superior or relevant to the current environment, or how they are actually DOABLE. He has not explained ow his approach is a significantly different approach to the failures of the last 8 years. His healthcare plan is a farce, taxing my health benefits to give me a healthcare tax credit which will not buy me even a bare bones healthcare plan, his tax plan is unsustainable and rewards those who don’t need it, he has absolutely no solid ideas for our recovery plans, he has offered no answers on how he is going to pay for the buyout of these bad loans, is spending freeze of 18 billion will not even come close to paying for his tax cuts AND his $300 billion ideas to pay for his home owner bailout ‘plan’, and absolutely no transition plan for when he assumes power so he can get to work on day one (he felt winning the election was more important than planning ahead), and shows the underlying influence of special interests in his policy making and his past judgement, and his foreign policy positions have been PROVEN wrong consistently, with his war mongering rhetoric getting increasingly aggressive…and NOW THIS???!!! YOU CAN HIRE EXPERIENCE, AND YOU CAN BUY KNOWLEDGE, BUT IF YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS MISALIGNED YOUR EXPERIENCE IS OF NO USE TO US. Stop telling us you can do it John McCain, TELL US HOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT. It infuriates me the absurdity that this once great man has stooped to. Is he THIS out of touch with reality? We need a serious president, with a steady and even temperament, who is willing to listen to EVERYONE and come up with solutions that work for ALL OF US. We need a president who has the intellect, and the moral compass pointing true north to our interests, who helps the nation focus on what we have in common, not why we are different…we need a president who understands that issues should lie at the foundation of political attacks, not baseless associations focused on dominating the next news cycle. We need someone whose inner circle of influence is not tainted by special interests and lobbists, who has the highest probability of reforming Washington. We need someone who understands the new world order, and who understands that war is but ONE tactic, along with intelligence, diplomatic and economic leverage in our overall strategy to counter our foreign policy challenges today. We need a president who is a calming voice in this cacophony of chaos, who calls out to the best within all of us to lead us out of this hole we’ve dug ourselves into, not divide us and calls on our hate. We need a President who is a pragmatist, who has been consistent, with judgment that is guided by good nature rather than a thirst for power. We need someone with new ideas, and a new approach to change our course in history. ENOUGH WITH THIS PETTY HATE MONGERING, THE TIMES ARE TOO SERIOUS FOR THIS KIND OF NONSENSE. I DON’T CARE IF HE IS BLACK, BLUE OR PURPLE, AND I DONT CARE IF HE IS PRO OR ANTI ABORTION, OR LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE…I JUST CARE THAT HE IS RIGHT FOR THE CHALLENGES WE NOW FACE. The dirty voter suppression and caging efforts of 2004 and 2000 are very much underway and already making huge impacts across all the swing states, we are now facing the possibility of THOUSANDS of obama voters getting turned away on election day, and the campaigning is only going to get more hateful. Do not believe the polls. Obama may be ahead, but they could steal it again unless we SHOW UP IN FORCE AND GET OUR PAPERWORK STRAIGHT. We cannot let them steal it again.
Posted by: roarks | October 10, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am
McCain is do deperately trying to tie Obama with Ayers but he will never be successful at this LIE. The facts are the facts – Sen. Obama was only 8 years old when Ayers engaged in his horrible acts. Some 40 years later, Ayers became a teacher at the Univ. of Chicago. Sen. Obama was a Community Oganizer in Chicago and he sat on a school reform project board with Ayers and nine other people. They were never friends,and that’s all there is to this story. When Sen. Obama found out who Ayers was and what he did, he spoke out against his deplorable actions. McCain and the whole world already know this.
No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me,” declares the LORD. – Isaiah 54:17
” I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run.” – Exodus 23:27
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. – 2 Timothy 4:18
11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. – Psalm 91:11-13
I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. – Luke 10:19
It’s time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It’s time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Amen.
Posted by: Barack Obama IS Our next president and Joe Biden is the VP | October 10, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Posted by: cindyct | October 10, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
Ver well said roarks. We should reject McCain for the shake of the county. COUNTRY FIRST, AND MCAIN LAST.
Posted by: Naveen | October 10, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am
Let me make sure I understand
The economy is well into the danger zone
We are fighting in Iraq and Afganastan
Schools, already struggling in many areas will now face budget cuts
There are children going to bed hungry every night in this country
Many elderly on fixed incomes are seeing a source of income crashing down
Not to mention subjects such as the environment, health care, etc.
And Senator McCain is trying to get elected on inuindo, falsehoods, namecalling, and just plain meanness.
Is this the kind of man he thinks we want running the country? Is this really how he wants to be elected?
Anybody remember the line from “The American President”….”they are making this up as they go along.”
I see know discussion of issues, no connection with what the American people want and are worried about…I see playground mentality of calling names and playing games.
Get real
PLEASE
Posted by: Marli | October 10, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
McCain is a coward and a traitor. too bad Charlie didn’t finish him off
Posted by: Jethro | October 10, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
“McCain raises suspicion, but he and his campaign have never said what they suspect.”
Exactly. Because they’ve got nothing.
They never mention that another member of the Chicago Annenburg Challenge board was Arnold Weber, former member of the Nixon administration and recent McCain donor either.
Posted by: Aengil | October 10, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
John McCain’s Terroist Connections and Why You Should Care
How close are John McCain and Gordon Liddy (a convicted criminal and an advocate of domestic terrorism)? Far closer than Obama and Ayers ever were or will be. In 1998, Liddy’s home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator’s campaigns — including $1,000 this year.Last November, McCain went on Gordon Liddy’s radio show. Liddy greeted him as “an old friend,” and McCain sounded like one. “I’m proud of you, I’m proud of your family,” he gushed. “It’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.”Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn’t disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (fortunately never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history — and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as “a prisoner of war.”All this may sound like ancient history. But it’s from the same era as the bombings Ayers helped carry out as a member of the Weather Underground. And Liddy’s penchant for extreme solutions has not abated.In 1994, after the disastrous federal raid on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, he gave some advice to his listeners: “Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they’re going to be wearing bulletproof vests. … Kill the sons of ####.”He later backed off, saying he meant merely that people should defend themselves if federal agents came with guns blazing. But his amended guidance was not exactly conciliatory: Liddy also said he should have recommended shots to the groin instead of the head. If that wasn’t enough to inflame any nut cases, he mentioned labeling targets “Bill” and “Hillary” when he practiced shooting.Given Liddy’s record, it’s hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy — or celebrating his service to their common cause.How does McCain explain his howling hypocrisy on the subject? And what about McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin with her own connections to domestic terrorism?
Posted by: Jane Sixpack | October 10, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Digging up dirt is what politicians do so well as we have all seen in the past and now in the present. The Bill Ayers topic is just one more thing to create diversion off of the subject that really need our attention. I was a Pacifist during the Viet Nam War, but I was a teenager and young adult in college. SDS came to our campus, a small all girls college in NH., and I listened, but I did not partake. I do not find violence an answer to anything. Not even the toxic, verbal violence as I read on many blogs! Yes, Ayers got off on technicalities of improper wire tapping and other stuff, but it was a long time ago. Forgive and let go does not mean to forget, but what is the point of beating a dead horse (as the saying goes)? Huh? Let’s focus on what is important and going on right now! The market has not bottomed out yet. Banks are now going under world wide. Out of control greed has swelled the housing and financial markets for too many years. Now it is all collapsing. We need answers from our two candidates! Not more party rhetoric. Not more avoidance of the issues. Not more lies and distortions. Not more smear campaigns. What are these two men going to do to really help us? What are they going to do about Global Warming? What are they going to do to help our schools? How are they going to stop the out of control deficit spending? How are they going to ‘clean house’ and deal with those in our Congress and Senate who are not doing anything productive nor positive for us and our country? How about those executives at AIM? Did you all hear about those greedy big wigs getting bailout approval and then taking their sales staff of an elaborate vacation to some resort on OUR tax dollars? What are they going to do about that? Come on people! We are all Americans – not just Republican or Democrats, conservatives or liberals – we are the PEOPLE! Have you taken the time to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights lately? We need a President who knows what those documents say and what they mean! Those documents are the foundation for our freedoms! They need to be fully understood and totally honored by all who lead us no if’s, and’s or but’s about it! We have not had true allegiance to those documents that for almost eight years. That is what all of us should be demanding of those we elect into office. And if they cannot or refuse to do that we should eject them from office by whatever legal means available to us as the citizens of this great country. Government of the people, by the people and for the people are words our forefathers gave their lives for to give us the freedoms we have today. Come on! This back stabbing, slandering, smear campaign election techniques are so high school and petty. I am sick of it – aren’t you?
Posted by: Wendy Powers | October 10, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Apparently Johnny can’t keep his temper under control – especially when he is out gambling at a casino. See:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-09/john-mccain-shooting-craps-pissed-off/
So much for character. So much for family values. So much for integrity. God Save America!
Posted by: Jane Sixpack | October 10, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
This is the first time I have written a comment. But i abhor what the Republicans are doing to deface Obama and twist the facts, citing a part of quotations but dropping the rest of it, thus presenting lies.
It is distressing to see how vicious and dishonest McCain/Palin are being. Now think about it, if they show their dark colors in this campaign, how will their mode of operation work with our country and the world. I bet that after all this dishonesty and avoidance of the issues/details he is well practiced to do this in the future to us and the world. He does not have the wisdom and temperament for any high office, and the presidency.
Some questions:
1. Can the behavior, qualities and beliefs of McCain be what our country/world needs and can survive? We need honest straightforward leadership. Not McCain’s negative brand of thinking and attack methods. (Imagine how his behavior would go over with our people, and other countries! Would anyone trust him?)
2. Yes, in his youth he was a war hero. We do not know how he behaved before his capture. And, what says his experience indicates he is presidential material. Does that mean that all of our military heros are also qualified for the presidency? I think the his horrible experience could also warp his mind the set him up for resentment and retaliation of a negative sort.
3. McC/Palin pride themselves at being mavericks. The term maverick can be a fearful and negative quality to a person. Dictionary:maverick-an independent individual who refuses to conform with his group. McCain takes pride in being a maverick. What does this really mean? It sounds to me that he is capable of being stubborn and turn from truth and wise counsel to maintain his maverick trait. Now think, can a self-interested maverick repair and strengthen our country and relationships abroad? I don’t think so.
4. At his age, McCain is a risk of a weak person. Will he stay in good health? Will his mind weaken? And a big concern, should he fail to do the job, could you survive an inexperienced, vicious, truth twisting leader like Palin? WITH AGE I doubt that McCain could do a second term…thus requiring a new president.
I believe that we need a strong leader who can serve 2 terms to provide continuity for our progress and healing of the problems of the nation.
I HAVE MORE CONCERNS, BUT WILL END WITH THIS:
OBAMA IS THE LEADER WE NEED, NOW AND FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS! I BELIEVE IN HIM AND HAVE FAITH THAT OUR COUNTRY WILL SEE BETTER YEARS WITH OBAMA/BIDEN IN THE LEADERSHIP!!!
DEMOCRATES ARE STRONGLY SUPPORTING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TO BRING TO OUR COUNTRY A TRULY GREAT LEADER!!!
Posted by: Josephine | October 10, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
For those who say no one should be caught dead with Ayers, then what ever are you going to do with Mrs. Annenberg, former Reagan supporter and John McCain supporter, WHO APPOINTED BILL AYERS TO THE ANNENBERG FOUNDATION BOARD IN CHICAGO? Yikes – does that make McCain an associate of Ayers for taking money from the woman who funded the position on the Board Ayers filled? Double Yikes. If you have a problem with Ayers, maybe you should ask Mrs. Annenberg about it? SHE made the decision, not Barak Obama. And there were several Republicans on THAT SAME BOARD – so what does that make THEM? Wow – this is getting confusing. From your analysis, all these Republicans are really fellow travelers with terrorists. Hmmmm.
Posted by: Choicelady | October 10, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
VOIGHT: My concerns for America
Obama sowing socialist seeds in young people
“We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.
Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.
The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.
The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away.
Those same leaders who were in the streets in the ’60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war and to attack our president, and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.
Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we’ve almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake.
If Mr. Obama had his way, he would have pulled our troops from Iraq years ago and initiated an unprecedented bloodbath, turning over that country to the barbarianism of our enemies. With what he has openly stated about his plans for our military, and his lack of understanding about the true nature of our enemies, there’s not a cell in my body that can accept the idea that Mr. Obama can keep us safe from the terrorists around the world, and from Iran, which is making great strides toward getting the atomic bomb. And while a misleading portrait of Mr. Obama is being perpetrated by a media controlled by the Democrats, the Obama camp has sent out people to attack the greatness of Sen. John McCain, whose suffering and courage in a Hanoi prison camp is an American legend.
Gen. Wesley Clark, who himself has shame upon him, having been relieved of his command, has done their bidding and become a lying fool in his need to demean a fellow soldier and a true hero.
This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America. If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way.”
Jon Voight is an Academy Award-winning actor who is well-known for his humanitarian work.
The Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/28/voight/
Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 2:17 am 2:17 am
Todd & Sarah Palin’s America is an America MINUS Alaskans an all those Natural Resources, [Oil, Gas & Gold]….
The Former AIP Leader, makes Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers look Angelic !!
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AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,”
from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.”
It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent Anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler….
“I’m an Alaskan, Not an American,”
Reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website,
“I’ve got no use for America or her Damned Institutions.”
According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States.
Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark……..
“should be an Independent Nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.
The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that….
“The Fires of Hell are Frozen Glaciers compared to MY HATRED for the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.”
He cursed the Stars and Stripes, Promising…
“I won’t be buried under their DAMNED FLAG …
When Alaska is an Independent Nation they can bring my bones home.”
Sara Palin has not DENOUNCED Vogler or his Detestable [Anti-Americanism].
Todd Palin: Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from [1995 to 2002]
Sarah can be described in McCarthy-Era Palaver as a “Fellow Traveler.”
While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s [1994 convention] where the party called for a [Draft Constitution to Secede from the United States] and Create an Independent Nation of Alaska.
The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s [2000 Convention].
She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a Keynote Address at the…
AIP’s [2006 Convention] and she Recorded a video greeting for this Year’s [2008 Convention].
In other words, this is not something that happened when she was [Eight]!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an..
[America without Alaska].
In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving EQUAL TIME to Palin’s Buddy list of [Anti-American Bombers] and other radical associates?”
Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
NIE: National Intellegence Estimates, says “Victory In Iraq is Not Certain”
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New NIE warns that “Victory’ is not certain in Iraq”
A new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) reportedly “Warns that unresolved Ethnic and Sectarian Tensions in Iraq could unleash a New wave of Violence, potentially reversing the major security and political gains achieved over the last year.”
McClatchy notes that the NIE’s
findings “cast doubts on McCain’s frequent assertions that the United States is “On a Path to Victory” and instead Echo Gen. David Petraeus, who has objected to using the word “Victory” for War in Iraq”
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BBC News: General Patraeus said “I would not ever use the words [Victory] to describe the Iraq Occupation ”
General Patraeus: “The Iraq War does not lend itself to a Victory Slogan”
General Patraeus: “The Iraq war is not simple as taking a Hill and planting a Flag and going Home to a Victory Parade”
John Mccain, John Voight, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove,Brit Hume, Glenn Beck and Fox News as well as You Mccain-Palin Followers…
Chastise General Patraeus…
Fox News and other Conservative Outlets don’t and won’t mention these Very Recent Quotes from General Patraeus…
Next Debate Obama had better bust Mccain’s Chops with these Quotes from Patraeus, to Shut Mccain and this “Surge” Bull Spit Up, once and for all !!!
Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
For those of you who are hell bent on believing that whole Ayres smear:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html
Check it out. Factcheck has a lot of information. Even some of the comments here about McCain are not true as you will see.
Posted by: Teleparent | October 11, 2008, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
H P Boston:
I’m was raised a Catholic. If we are going to assume that what our pastors or priests do reflects our beliefs and the way we conduct our lives then that would make me a pedophile and a child molester. When 300 million catholics walk out of their churches for the disgraceful way their priests, bishops, cardinals and yes, the Pope condoned and covered up these atrocities and allowed them to continue for generations, then we can talk about why someone would not walk out of their church because a pastor occasionally said something controversial. And, while you’re fuming over this, why don’t you expend some energy and google Jeremiah Wright. You’d be surprised to see how many U.S. Presidents have honored him. If you’re too lazy to do that, then just fume.
Karen “Hussein” Downs
Posted by: Teleparent | October 11, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm