Oct 11, 2008 5:55am

Palin Says She Did ‘Nothing Unlawful or Unethical’

ABC News’ Imtiyaz Delawala reports from Pittsburgh: Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said she did "nothing unlawful or unethical" in removing her public safety commissioner from his position, the morning after a bipartisan state investigation concluded that the Alaska governor abused her power in the case.

The Alaska legislature last night released a 263-page report on the "Troopergate" scandal, centered around Palin’s firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan in July. Monegan charged that he was removed from his position because he refused to pressure subordinates to fire Palin’s former brother-in-law, state trooper Mike Wooten, who was involved in a messy divorce with Palin’s sister. Read more about it HERE.

As Palin left the Pittsburgh Westin Hotel this morning to board her campaign bus, a pool reporter yelled out, "Governor, did you abuse your power?"

Palin paused as she boarded the bus and responded, "No, and if you read the report you’ll see that there was nothing unlawful or unethical about replacing a cabinet member. You gotta read the report, sir."

The legislature’s inquiry concluded that Palin abused her power in the case, and that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten "was not the sole reason" but was "likely a contributing factor" to his firing.

The report, however, also concluded that Palin was within her right to remove Monegan from his position.

In an interview with reporters from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review last night following an evening fundraiser, Palin defended her handling of the case.

"It is important for a governor to take on the responsibility of making sure that everybody in her cabinet is in the right place at the right time to best serve the public," Palin said. "I dismissed a cabinet member because he wasn’t the right person at the right time in his position — dismissed him having nothing to do with telling him to hire or fire anybody else."

Palin refused to be interviewed for the legislature’s investigation, saying it had become a partisan inquiry. She has maintained that she will cooperate with a separate investigation by the state’s personnel board, which is conducting its own inquiry at Palin’s prompting.

User Comments

Why is she denying what we now know is fact.
Who is the “real” Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Vanessa | October 11, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am

THE “OUTSIDER” IS JUST ANOTHER INSIDER
Sure she says she’s “innocent”. She also said she knew nothing about all this a couple days ago. She cleared herslf.
But the investigation found otherwise.
GUILTY OF ETHICS VIOLATIONS
She was aware of what was happening AND she participated in it.
The METHODS used were what was unethical. The way they applied pressure to settle a PERSONAL vendetta was unthical.
And why is her husband, an UNELECTED person, spending 50% of his time using government power?

Posted by: Dave in VA | October 11, 2008, 6:08 am 6:08 am

Palin DID NOT break the law…and that should be the head line.
If the media wants to make a big deal out of this, then they should look into Obama’s illegal contribution list and he shady land deal with Rezko.

Posted by: Frieda | October 11, 2008, 6:10 am 6:10 am

Her statements about this investigation and what was revealed in the report are totally contradictory.
Is this the “reformer” who is going to “clean up” government?
Is this the one who’s been spewing about “honesty” and “ethics” in her speeches?
Who is the REAL Sarah Palin?

Posted by: Who is Sarah Palin REALLY? | October 11, 2008, 6:11 am 6:11 am

she wouldn’t know if she did… is half the problem.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am

CROOK

Posted by: YEA BUDDY | October 11, 2008, 6:14 am 6:14 am

She did nothing more than anyone of has done who has a freiend or relative that is a cop,dropping his/her name or PBA FOP card

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 6:16 am 6:16 am

Palin DID NOT break the law…and that should be the head line.
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You guys will rationalize anything.
Obama has never broken the law, but you smear his name every day. Sarah Palin is GUILTY on ethics violations. That’s a fact now.
There are ethics codes for reasons! To make sure that our leaders don’t abuse the power granted to them by the public.
Cheney and Bush fely they could do whatever thay wanted without recourse. They operated with impunity.
Now, Ms Reformer is shown to have the same concept of “leadership”.
Not a good trait for a VP candidate.
They never vetted Ms Palin and everyday it becomes more obvious they should have.

Posted by: Sorry, it DOES matter! | October 11, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

Stolen!! From ACORN of all things!
“Yes We Can!” – unbelievable!!
Check the 4:00 marker and the 8:25 marker on this video. Now you tell me?
Oh no he won’t!
http://blog.savejersey.com/2008/10/10/acorns-informational-video.aspx
Disgraceful!

Posted by: NoYouWillNot | October 11, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am

You guys are out of your mind calling her a crook.She took on big oil in alaska and forced them to give an addtional 1200 for every citizen in alaska.I dont know about you thats pretty good!

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Difference between a pitbull and a Republican VP candidate?
At least the pitbull has been vet-ed

Posted by: Comedy Central | October 11, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am

weird that a Republican would abuse their power…go figure

Posted by: mudge007 | October 11, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

She took on big oil in alaska and forced them to give an addtional 1200 for every citizen in alaska
———–
And isn’t it hypocritical that she is now AGAINST increasing taxes on the mega corperations?
That’s exactly how she got the money to pay people in Alaska

Posted by: Oh, the Irony | October 11, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am

Soon the Republican trolls will be doing the “Yah, our candidates suck, but what about this unsubstatiated accusation” response.

Posted by: To be expected | October 11, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am

She’s technically correct; her actions to remove the man were within her powers as Governor.
But she chose not to speak to the report’s conclusion that she permitted her husband and others to put pressure on Monegan. It was a violation of the State of Alaska’s code of ethics for public officials. She was silent on that part of the report.
She did not break the law. But her behavior sounds a lot like what Alberto Gonzaelez did when he corrupted the office of the US Attorney General. And I have had enough of that kind of behavior in Washington! No way she should be Veep!

Posted by: the old perfesser | October 11, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

Until I see some decent proof, I’m not falling for it.

Posted by: tennisguypitt | October 11, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

Palin can say she’s the queen of sheba. It doesnt make it so. That’s why we have seperation of powers.
10 republicans, 4 democrats. A bipartisan committe found she abused her power unlawfully.

Posted by: bubba | October 11, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am

Another good choice from McCain. This guy make bad choice after bad choice when he is not flip floping. We don’t want it as a president.

Posted by: goDem | October 11, 2008, 6:24 am 6:24 am

She took on big oil in alaska and forced them to give an addtional 1200 for every citizen in alaska
———–
And isn’t it hypocritical that she is now AGAINST increasing taxes on the mega corperations?
That’s exactly how she got the money to pay people in Alaska
Posted by: Oh, the Irony | Oct 11, 2008 10:21:04 AM
I know everybody hates corporations right now but the fact of the matter is they are the ones who create jobs.You think Obama is going to raise taxes on mega corporations.Did you know Ireland which had the worlds highest corporations tax lowered it and actually created more jobs and revenue???

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

Maybe she’ll agree to be interviewed so she can clear her name. But don’t hold your breath.

Posted by: samurai | October 11, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

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Who the heck cares? If it were me, I would have taken my moose gun after the dang hat rack. Palin dismissed a person whom she appointed? Her political enemies are trying to stir up a tempest in order to distract from:
1) world wide economic melt down
2) continued evil, satanic cult’s inroads into world domination.
3) possibility of US electing a known communist agitator as POUS.
4) culpability on the part of 90% of Congress in all of the above.
5) ACORN – could write a book about this but will reduce it to “osamabama’s (controlled by Soros) attempt to win the election by any means possible).
6) possibility of total control by socialist (pc term for communist) of the supreme court
if 3) becomes true.
AND, as a minor note, our only other choice for POUS is a butt-kissing “bipartisan” career politician who will give lip service to WE THE PEOPLE but go along with 99% of what the socialists (pc term for communists) want. The sole and only bright spot on the whole scene is Palin, who I am cynically sorry to say, will probably catch the same disease that permeates DC if she is elected.
Generations after generations of sacrifice, blood, sweat and tears are being pissed away by the destroyers of the true American Dream (no, Virginia, the American Dream is not a sub-prime house mortgage). How many more days will our Republic survive? Old as I am, I grow fearful that I will live long enough to see its death.

Posted by: Rose | October 11, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Troopergate is the tip of the Alaskan Iceberg. The AIP and Todd Palin’s seven year membership is next.

Posted by: Libratine | October 11, 2008, 6:26 am 6:26 am

OFF WITH HIS HEA… What? The report came out?
IMPEACH HER! IMPEACH HER! IMPEACH HER!

Posted by: Frenzied Republican Crowd Member | October 11, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am

tennisguypitt – same standard for the Ayers and Rezko association? or more bs from a small minded republican?

Posted by: mudge007 | October 11, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am

Another power hungry politician in a skirt. Her good looks hide her rotten core.

Posted by: jr64 | October 11, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am

Sarah Palin is only a reflection of the real powers behind her and her appalling statements. The hands of Rove, Cheney and their kind are st work here; beyond dangerous and inciting hatreds that should chill the hearts of decent people everywhere. I am horrified. Palin is a puppet. The puppetmasters are at large … again.

Posted by: Jane Singer | October 11, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

Eratic and Unethical
What a team!
This is the best of the GOP eh?

Posted by: Wow | October 11, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

This woman is a delusional idiot. She needs to step down from the McCain campaign.

Posted by: Restore Sanity Now! | October 11, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

She absolutely needs immediate electro-shock therapy or a lobotomy if she truly believes what she is saying. The investigative panel consisted of TEN republicans and FOUR democrats and absolutely found that she violated the ethics laws in the Alaska Statutes. Anybody that truly believes that is okay for an elected official (let alone a vp or p) should seek immediate mental health care themselves! What a joke they and the rest of their campaign staff are!

Posted by: Sharon | October 11, 2008, 6:32 am 6:32 am

Seems that Sarah Palin is about as much of an INSIDER as they come.
Didin’t you just know this was going to happen?
Those who live in glass houses should not throw lipstick!

Posted by: Rachel | October 11, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

Hey ABC, where’s the equal spin on Obama’s illegal activities with Rezko? Seems the palin feast is a bit one sided, don’t you think?

Posted by: Elwood P. Dowd | October 11, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am

She will be brought up on Ethics charges. You can defend her all you want but the facts remain–10 republicans and ONLY 4 demacrats found her guilty of this Dangerous abuse of power. So unless your a Pro-Bono attorney thats in contact with Mrs. Palin then your slanted,wish this would go away, OMG what a continuing nightmare,opinions are simply worthless. Now, say Goodnight Gracie.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 11, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am

Frieda – Don’t forget to come to attention and raise your right arm straight above your head and say sig sarah

Posted by: mike | October 11, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

She abuses power, lies, and has Karl Rove. Executive Privilege!! Oh– Sorry Karl, she cant say that. George Bush in a dress or better know has “Joe Six Pack” is needing a case of beer about now. McCain/Palin/Rove– Slip Sliding Away. I will give McCain credit for taking the mic from a lady that called Obama an Arab at his Town Mob Meeting.

Posted by: CW | October 11, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

Presumptive President Obama should stand up for Sarah Palin’s civil rights and demand due process for any alleged violations to be followed.

Posted by: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY | October 11, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

Enjoy your last few weeks riding on the Straight Talk and Country First Express. May they be the beginning of the end of your political career, SP. Go back into journalism — where you can wink all you like on the evening news and stick to what you know — praising your kids for getting pregnant, moose hunting…and watching Putin circling your [h]air space. Meanwhile the big kids will get back to work on the real issues affecting our country — you won’t even need to keep your passport.

Posted by: michael in ohio | October 11, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

Who are you, Sarah?
This is more legitimate question that Republicans have to ask at the rally.

Posted by: zen | October 11, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

I wonder what the next move for the McCain camp will be? What do they say and do now? I’m sure they will find a way to blame this on Obama as well. You all better get use to saying President Obama, because of McCain’s poor judgement on his VP pick (nice). We are all smarting than we were four years ago, and won’t fall for the same BS coming from the republicans. Your time has come to an end my friends…

Posted by: jeff | October 11, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am

Her political enemies are trying to stir up a tempest in order to distract from:…….
———————
Hahahaha
No, it’s been Palin herself who has been trying to distract people from the issues.
Palin is the one attacking and questioning obama’s honesty. Now we learn the Palinis liar.
Well, we knew that since she lied to the American public about her record, but this investigation just confirms it.
On the issues that face our nation – Pubs lose. Look at the polls. (Or ask McCain’s campaign staff.)

Posted by: Phi J | October 11, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

The GOP will find away to defend Todd Palins Associations with the AIP.
To be truthful the GOP would like to separate themselves from America anyway.
I can’t wait till they leave.
Since they hate liberals and living in the most liberal country in the world.
There racist views don’t fit here.
They need to move to Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Langx | October 11, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

Her preemptive “I’ve cleared myself in this matter” headline yesterday morning says it all.
She’s guilty. She’s lying. She’s not someone who might some day ascend to the highest office in the land.
This is the shining star of the republican party! The next generation of the GOP! The “new energy”!
Looks a lot like the old version doesn’t it?
Corruption becomes her don’t you think?

Posted by: Greg in MN | October 11, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

I don’t blame her at all for resisting this investigation. I thought the committee should have been disbanded when the spokesperson spoke to the press and said a lot of things he shouldn’t have, hinting at outcome before they had even launched their investigation. That report was on ABCNEWS.com and I really wondered how the committee could have any credibility after that. I’m willing to pay attention to what the Alaska personnel board has to say, but this committee seems to be tainted by partisan politics, so I fully understand why Palin got uppity with them. They should have been disbanded, if what ABC News said was true.

Posted by: Annie | October 11, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am

Walk into any prison, and most convicts will claim they are innocent. But 10 Republicans and 4 democrats concluded that she abused the power of her office. Public officials have to be held to higher standards. They are entrusted with the authority of their office for the good of the public, not for there own good. Palin needs to admit her misdeeds and apologize to her constituents. Her denials are undignified.

Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

Oh what a wicked web we weave….McCain is kicking himself in the buttocks now because the vetting procedure for VP was such a poor job.
Well Captain you have made a mess of this one…..
Lt. USN ret (mustang)

Posted by: Gary | October 11, 2008, 6:40 am 6:40 am

What does this really porve? She had a reason to act the way dhe did. I for one am glad a governor would react to such matters in this way. It shows leadership for the right reasons. Why doesn’t BAC,and all other main stream medias,folow the affairs of Obama. He gets a free pass on things that really matter. Whose judgement is worse? Palin or Obama?

Posted by: Jeff | October 11, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

To Mike: I find your portrayal of Ms. Palin as a Nazi offensive! Sig sarah. Many Nazi’s, as horrific and abusive and mentally sick as they were, as corrupt and perverse and….oh screw it, Sig Sarah- when your right -your right.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 11, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am

Mrs. Palin obviously doesn’t believe in taking responsibility for her actions, even when a bipartisan legislative panel found her actions to be unethical? What kind of response is that? While it is her right as Governer to replace people in positions she has authority over, it is unethical and illegal to do so for personal motives. And, since the investigating panel will not take legal action against Governer Palin as it was not within the scope of their investigation, the Alaskan government can and should see to it that such abuses of power do not take place again by way of legal proceedings against Mrs. Palin. Isn’t there a long-term Alaskan Senater already under court proceeding for similar behavior? The idea that the investigation against Mrs. Palin were politically motivated are not substanial. The bipartisan proceedings began before she was chosen to be the VP running mate. The Alaskan people should be more concerned about the future of their state government than they should be in backing a unethical junior governer for Vice President of the United States. How dumb does Mrs. Palin think the Alaskan and U.S. Citizens are anyhow? I read the full report. It does say Mrs. Palin abused her power in a unlawful manner. Shame on Mrs. Palin for not admitting her failure to act ethically.

Posted by: Jay Monson | October 11, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am

Palin is sooooo Busted!!!!!She KNOWS she abused her power, she acts so innocent and naieve! I cannot stand her or trust her…everytime she speaks that voice is like a nail is being driven through my head!!! Now she is blaming the Obama camp, saying they are out to get her…the investagating team was majority Republicans, she is just too dumb to live. Her “betcha’s, and winks and darn tootin’ hockey mom does NOT qualify her to be a Vice President!!
It is sooo unethical for a politician to WINK about anything!!NO CLASS at all!
I wish that the canidates would quit bashing each other and just tell us what they plan to do as President! I think at this point either one knows what the truth is! God Help the USA!!!

Posted by: arielem | October 11, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

Did you think she would cope to this even when printed in black and white ….She is as guilty as sin….Backfired in Mc Cains face and he is still causing trouble with some of the people.Cincy is as dumb as they come a good job would kill her.When some on provokes a crowd to yelling kiil him that to me is the lowest you can go.Palin is also to blame she wants this so bad it hurts, imagine dude in the white house uing our money ?????

Posted by: NH voter | October 11, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

For the GOP it’s Erratic/Unethical ’08!
The GOP is dead just in time for November 4.

Posted by: EDDIT | October 11, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

Scarry Palin is very good at one thing and only one – being a Republican.

Posted by: Douglass | October 11, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

Keep in mind– The investigation was started before her VP selection. 10 Rep and 4 Dems on the board that came out with this report. Sorry Reps. Not a leg to stand on and Karl Rove and Palin cant even yell Executive Privilege. Now I know you Reps, as usual want to change the subject. Ayers, the big terrorist. Which prison is he in? Why isnt the FBI knocking on his door?

Posted by: CW | October 11, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

I expected her to say “OK, I did it”. Please, she will never admit it. The problem is she did it. Both the Republicans and Democrats from her state said she did. Also, you have to question McCain’s judgement when he picks a running mate sight unseen. Bad decisions are already starting and he is just running. Weak.

Posted by: tewatkins | October 11, 2008, 6:45 am 6:45 am

she was the freakin governor people
are you going to pull these excuses when she is the Vice president
do you pull them for Cheney already
haven’t we been throguh these problems with excuses for ethics
FOR 8 YEARS OF DESTRUCTION TO OUR COUNTRY!?

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

I hope Alaska does not let her back into this office.Dude should be band from the capitol forever….Impeach her….

Posted by: me | October 11, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

She did nothing wrong, and she’ll have arrested anyone who says otherwise!

Posted by: Javalation | October 11, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

How about a little contrition Sarah? Just like Bush she can never admit when she’s wrong! She’s very self righteous, stubborn & she’s willing to break the law to get her way.
The facts are clear that Palin grossly abused her power & those were the findings of the bipartisan panel that was dominated by 10 republicans to only 4 democrats. This gives those findings much more weight. By refusing to show any contrition she will simply speed her plunge into the abyss in the polls.
John McCain showed extremely bad judgment picking Sarah Palin to be his VP because he knew that she was already under investigation. McCain gambled & just lost. Stick a fork in him.

Posted by: dee | October 11, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am

between her ignorance over what she is doing in her rallies
her ignorance in the interviews
her ignorance obviously on ethics and what is ethical
John… it’s time.
You know what needs to be done.
way over her head…
and way uninformed
you didn’t know who she was.. admit it…
and fix it.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

Obama DID break the law per his own admisson – drugs – meant he at least purchased them so he says – but also evidence he SOLD them.
Palin did not break the law – read the report – its available to those who want to read it instead of the Democrats so called synopsis.
This cabinet member was fired for a host of reasons and it is the cabinet member who is now being investigated by the Personal Commission and when its report comes out it will be clear to those who want clarity that Palin’s efforts to get a good cabinet member in place is what is behind this whole thing. Did you know the trooper who she wanted fired threatened her family, tasered a boy? So please keep your fingers off the diatribe keyboards you are using.

Posted by: Karl | October 11, 2008, 6:48 am 6:48 am

Sarah Sarah..see if you had just come out and said “I think my brother in law is a jerk and yes I pushed to get him fired and yes I let my husband use my office but I realize I was wrong but my heart was in the right place.” Americans can understand that…standing up for your family…it’s the deny deny deny that we don’t like. Now you’ve got this over your head and anything you say about truth and honesty well…you get it don’t you.

Posted by: linda n carolina | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

Stepped-up negative attacks on Obama, stirring up crowds with hatred, but wait!…
I’m beginning to believe in Karma.

Posted by: samurai | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

I am sure Alaskans are predominantly embarrassed at this point.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

Palin lied and abused her power. nuff said

Posted by: agentmckay | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

Like I said before, we can file troopergate investigation under the ‘INVESTIGATION TO NO WHERE’ along with that ‘ROAD TO NO WHERE’ that Sarah built with the money for that ‘BRIDGE TO NO WHERE’ which Sarah Palin claimed to have told Congress “THANKS BUT NO THANK” but the Republican VP candidate still kept the Federal Taxpayers Money and built that “ROAD TO NO WHERE” which ‘NO ONE’ on the Island Uses because it ‘GOES NO WHERE’.

Posted by: mere | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

She operates in a typical radical fundamentalist way. I’m right and I’ll do away with you because you disagree, and god will defend what ever I do because… I’m RIGHT!

Posted by: LittleMissMooseShooter | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

This doesn’t appear to be damamging to McCain’s campaign. A minor distraction at best.
However the real problem is she has dictatorial tenedencies which a democratic america should be afraid of. Both parties are guilty of abusing power and that is real danger to America. However Bush administration is the one that has scant respect for the democratic principles.
More serious about Palin is she didn’t anything to protect the women of alaska.
Outrageous is that women who were raped were charged for their rape kits. She being a woman should have done more and that she did not shows she is not the right candiate for women.

Posted by: INDEPENDENTOBSERVER | October 11, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

Presumptive President Obama should stand up for Sarah Palin’s civil rights and demand due process for any alleged violations to be followed.
——————
????????????????
There WAS an investigation. A bi-partisan committe examined the results and found her guilty.
She was found to have violated the ethical code of conduct.
To what due proceess do you refer?

Posted by: Strange logic | October 11, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Karl
their are ethics laws
and yes they are important.
read a little.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Why does she deny something that we now know to be a fact? Simple! It’s a pattern of behavior!
Just look at all the ridiculous claims she has made and continues to make: Obama pals around with terrorists; she sold the governor’s plan on eBay; she’s against pork and the bridge to nowhere; now add that she didn’t abuse or power as governor; all of these are outright lies, but anything to further her agenda is fair game in her eyes.
And that’s what makes this woman a serious danger to society if she ever gets in any real position of power. Wholly unqualified and intellectually incurious about anything outside her narrow-minded circle, she attempts to compensate with irrational confidence and manufactured “folksy” charm. I’m telling you this woman is the female version of George Bush…maybe even worse. At least Bush now admits that severe global warming is a man-made phenomena. Palin is still denying that.

Posted by: TVI | October 11, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

I read some of that report. You can download the pdf. I must say, the amount of phone calls and energy put into this Wooten guy by Sarah, Todd, and her staff was amazing. And, she doesn’t think she did anything wrong? Sure put alot of energy into keeping it quiet too. Still waiting on the emails. Cheney, Rove, Palin. No more.

Posted by: sus | October 11, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am

Gosh Darn it, Kharma is REAL!
You betcha!
(Can’t wait until Biden gets to talk about this!)

Posted by: Back at Ya | October 11, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

Obama is presidential!
McCain erratic. wanna know why?
Formula to there economic & foreign policy plans ( 3Cs )
Meaning, for Obama,
1. Consultation
2. Consolidation
3. Confrontation.
McCain.
1. Confrontation
2. Consolidation
3. Consultation
The difference is that Obama approach leads to “confidence” and “leadership”, while McCain’s lead to “confusion” and being “erratic”
My theory of leadership entails that before you take action i.e on economy, you consult with your advisers before coming out to make any statement, this also applies to consulting your allies before going to war.
But, he will do otherwise and at the long run he becomes confused. If you take a closer look, McCain is yet to get a stable slogan for his campaign.
First, it was “experience”
Secondly, it becomes “ready to lead”
thirdly, “Country first”
and now, “Change is coming”
McCain need to take a nap, period!

Posted by: Cole | October 11, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

OMG…f…ing delusional

Posted by: Lily Bell | October 11, 2008, 6:54 am 6:54 am

Wow. I’ll tell you who I’m afraid of.
I’m afraid of people like “Rose” – whoever that is – who incredibly find Alaskan airhead Sarah Palin the only admirable figure in this campaign.
Plenty of the ugly mud being thrown has stuck to this person, that’s obvious.
The far-right wing of the Republican with its blind religious faith in failed “principles,” is what’s just plain scary.

Posted by: Steve T | October 11, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Why do you always try to dishoner the Republicans.but never saying bad about OBAMA.and his Ties to ACORN who are destroying our right to VOTE.Please be hon

Posted by: Nick | October 11, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Why do you always try to dishoner the Republicans.but never saying bad about OBAMA.and his Ties to ACORN who are destroying our right to VOTE.Please be hon

Posted by: Nick | October 11, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Just because a committee with a Republican majority found you guilty doesn’t mean you have to admit it.
Keep denying it Sarah! Gullible people will believe you!

Posted by: Independent08 | October 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

It would truly be a terrible moment in our nation’s history if McCain and Palin were to be elected on their platform of hate and lies. There was a time I had some respect for McCain. But he has completely lost my respect. In fact I must have been mistaken all along to think that he had any honor. If he becomes president I will still have no respect for him. But even worse if he becomes president it will show the world that the days of an inspiring America are over. If he becomes president the world will see that America is ruled by hate, fear and bigotry and that every other country had better be afraid because a hate filled, angry old man and his ill-informed religious fundamentalist vp are in charge and they are erratic and filled with negativity. In fact negativity is their platform.

Posted by: Jim Dandy | October 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

People are confused on this report. It stated that a) she violated the Alaska Ethics statute, and b) she had a right to fire an executive appointment. The second does not cancel out the first.
Based on the report findings, Palin did violate a state stutute, the state can still move to censure Palin, and the State Attorney General can move on to other disciplinary actions. The state can even move to impeach Palin.

Posted by: Shelley | October 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

John McCain, you blew it big time

Posted by: Lily Bell | October 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

“Palin Pre-empts State Report, Clears Self in Trooper Probe”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/palin-pre-empts-state-report-clears-self-trooper-probe/
I still just love that headline, its even funnier when on FOX news. Megalomaniac? Nooooo!

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

Sarah, you are the ultimate case of being the WRONG person at the WRONG time for the position of VP. Do the country a favor, and FIRE YOURSELF.

Posted by: Veteran | October 11, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am

It is not Un-Ehtical to have someone fired by using your political clout, it is not unethical to destroy a state employee’s career to feed your own desires.It is not un-ethical to lie to your country about your wrongdoings if you realy didn’t mean it. Right and guess what else- Fat meat ain’t greasy!Now I know why all you right wing Republicans are so happy, cause Ignorance is bliss baby, Ignorance is Bliss.

Posted by: Roger Howard | October 11, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am

A typical Karl Rove trained response. Deny the reality. But it seems she is more than just a little disconnected from reality to begin with. Sugar, an INDEPENDENT investigation said you abused your power. And that it was unethical. You need to remove yourself from the ticket.

Posted by: Brad | October 11, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am

We just got through 7 1/2 of the most corrupt government in the history of our republic. Do we need more of this? NO. Drop out you snake!

Posted by: MooseCrap | October 11, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am

If McCain put the effort into vetting Palin as Palin put in trying to fire her ex-brother in law, he never would have picked her. The sad truth is that McCain gambled on an risky pick for VP without doing his homework. He was willing to put ‘That Women’ a heartbeat away from the presidency just to pander to the most extreme factions of the republican party. That shows a lack of judgment and character and (along with a long list of other reasons) disqualifies him from being the President.

Posted by: thebob.bob | October 11, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am

this is the same woman who can see russia from juneau. she probably looks at the sky and sees republican red while we all know it is democratic blue. palin is like a block of concrete tied to mccain and he is trying to swim for shore. not gonna happen!! this election is over and we can thank sarah the maverick palin for being just a bit too maverick! roflol

Posted by: sk8boardgrind | October 11, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am

Wow – at least the Dems don’t have any corruption – William Jefferson, Barney Frank and his Fannie Fanny, Chris Dodd’s loans, Tony Rezko, Lou Farrakhan, Billy Ayers – no just Palin.

Posted by: jamescbuilder | October 11, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am

My dead cat is smarter than Palin…. The only reason the grumpy old man brought her onboard is to capture the uneducated vote…. I smell a landslide…

Posted by: math ryan | October 11, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am

TROOPERGATE,
Yes, Palin ABUSED HER POWER. The question, unbelievers should ask themselves is why her husband had such a role? It her dismissal was indeed legitimate and not for personal reasons then WHY WAS HER HUSBAND SO INVOLVED?
Joe

Posted by: joe | October 11, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

This doesn’t appear to be damamging to McCain’s campaign
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As far as being an issue that dominates the headlines for weeks, you are probably right. Economy is still #1.
However, McCain and Palin’s campaign is based on the notion of “reforming the way Washington works”.
This event exemplifies that Palin is just another politician. She is simply more of the same hypocracy.
It’s the do as I say, but that doesn’t apply to me mentality.

Posted by: Some "Maverick" | October 11, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

She has no shame… she allowed her husband to use her office and staff and there is evidence that supports that she also was obsessed with firing the trooper.
No amount of spin from the media or McCains camp will prove different.
She is on the stump talking about how Obama is not honest… but she is the dishonest one… from the moment she took the stage at the RNC she has been lying about everything..
That so called pipeline hasn’t even been started yet…. and she keeps referring to it as if it has.
Her and her husband both belonged to the AIP and you don’t see anything about that in the media… she lied on her taxes by not reporting the per diem money she took and now she is unethical… YUP YUP she’s a winner alright.
Come monday, all you will hear again is Ayers…. ABC loves that story and they keep harping on it… the moment she takes the stump and utters that name, ABC will have 3 stories on it…
ABC where is the story about the other lawsuit that was heard on Friday also?
The one about the other private email accounts….
Kinda funny you don’t mention that one, since even in Branchflowers report it shows that people did testify that she was copying state business to her husband.
Palin is a pathological liar and a cheat and no way should she be allowed near the white house.
She is old politics as usual

Posted by: l | October 11, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Have any of you actually read the report? If you did it would become very clear just how hell bent Sarah and her family was at getting the trooper fired. At one point they were worried about whether or not the guy dropped his kid off at school in a police car and making that a case for firing him. Talk about petty. I’m not defending the trooper. What I’m saying is that Palin and her family were over the top in trying to “get” the guy anyway they could.
I can not imagine having someone so crazed on getting even running our country.

Posted by: Tina | October 11, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

Republicans don’t need to dress up for Halloween this year. They’re scaring the pants off Barack Obama’s followers by their mere presence. Anything they say, wear, or do provokes instant cries of “RAAAAACISM!” Wink, blink, or think critical thoughts about Obama? You’re a bigot!
How many racial bogeyman have Obama operatives and sympathetic journalists discovered lurking in “coded language” and attire? Let us count the ways:
*At Tuesday’s presidential debate, John McCain referred to Obama as “that one.” Official Obama press agitator Bill Burton sent off an e-mail blast to reporters: “Did John McCain just refer to Obama as ‘that one’?” Horrors. Taking their cue from Burton, spooked Obama supporters hyperventilated like teenagers on the set of the Blair Witch Project movie. “The racial undertones were subtle but unmistakable,” declared Maya Wiley of the leftist Center for Social Inclusion. “McCain was tapping into a current of superiority among white voters. It was an attempt to ‘otherize’ Obama.”
“Otherize?” Sounds like something you do to your car tires to prepare for winter.
UC Berkeley linguistics prof George Lakoff was also haunted by “That One:” “The phrase was meant to say, ‘You and I are in the same area, but he’s the outsider.’”
Memo to McCain: Next time, call him “The One.”
*Obama supporters on the heavily-traffic Democratic Underground website (where such mainstream Democrats as Elizabeth Edwards hang out) saw the ghost of the Ku Klux Klan in Sarah Palin’s white suit jacket. Yes, white clothes = racism.
“Palin is wearing white again, inciting the racist crowds. She should just drop all pretense and put on her white hood and light up a cross. She is a despicable human being,” fumed a DU poster. “Grand Princess of the KKK,” proclaimed another. They’re “trying to send subtle signals to their rabid base,” yet another member of Obama’s rabid base declared.
My racial decoder ring must be on the fritz. Because I’m not getting the signal. If she wears white stockings, drinks a vanilla milk shake, and refers to budgetary black holes, are those incitements, too? And what about her gorgeous white teeth? Perhaps she should drink more coffee — hold the white cream! — to avoid emitting further racial radiation.
*Such paranoia is not limited to the fever swamps of the Internet. Earlier this week, the Associated Press disseminated an “analysis” accusing Palin of injecting a “racial tinge” into the campaign because she criticized Obama for his longtime relationship with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers. Palin’s comments were completely unobjectionable: “This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America.”
I saw a vice presidential candidate drawing stark philosophical differences between two tickets. The AP saw Freddy Krueger with lipstick and a noose.
“Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as ‘not like us’ is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American,” the AP piece frothed.
Obama is half-black. Ayers is white. One of the Weather Underground’s victims was black police officer Waverly Brown of Nyack, New York. Where do I buy a pair of the super X-ray glasses that can detect the racism in Palin’s remarks about the Obama-Ayers alliance?
*I’ll have to borrow those hysterical-colored spectacles from Time’s Karen Tumulty, who spotted racist goblins in the recent McCain ad criticizing Obama for seeking advice from Fannie Mae corruptocrat, Franklin Raines. “Sinister images of two black men, followed by one of a vulnerable-looking elderly white woman,” Tumulty balked in a blog post titled “McCain plays the race card.”
Um, “sinister?” The ad’s photos of Obama and Raines were standard shots — some with dour expressions, others smiling. The fact that Tumulty perceived them as “sinister” suggests that she should perform a self-racism exam before diagnosing anyone else.
*A parade of Congressional witch hunters for Obama also detects the specter of George Wallace behind every policy bush. Democrat New York Gov. David Paterson says conservative criticism of Obama’s community organizing days is code for “black.” Democrat Rep. Gregory Meeks complained to the New York Observer: “They are trying to throw out these codes.” In the same piece, Democrat Rep. Yvette Clark divined segregationist intent in Palin’s references to Joe Six Pack and hockey moms. “It leaves a lot of people out.”
And Democrat Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid echoed Time’s Tumulty on the McCain camp’s Obama/Raines broadsides: “The only connection that people could bring up about Raines and Barack Obama is that they both are African-American, other than that there is nothing.”
The Washington Post reported that Obama’s office phoned up Raines for housing advice and has stood by its reporting. Is the newspaper part of the McCain/Palin hooded racists’ coven, too?
Obama’s witch hunters better beware. When there’s racism in every hiccup, nobody’s air supply is safe.

Posted by: HP Boston | October 11, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

And she also didn’t lie about the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere” and “I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM MY HOUSE” LOL.

Posted by: con me not | October 11, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

She says “read the report” — well, the report says she “violated state ethics law.”

Posted by: frank burns | October 11, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

TROOPERGATE,
Yes, Palin ABUSED HER POWER. The question, unbelievers should ask themselves is why her husband had such a role? If her dismissal was indeed legitimate and not for personal reasons then WHY WAS HER HUSBAND SO INVOLVED?
Joe

Posted by: joe | October 11, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

Again Republican lies are filling this board.
Obama did admit to using drugs the last few months of his last year in high school but quit when he reached his first year of college and realize that was the wrong path to take. What, three or four months?
Compare that to GW BUSH caught with Cocaine when he went AWOL while in the Military. Now how old was Bush at that time, was that really his first time? And then decade later caught once again on the White house lawn when his Father Bush was VP for Regean. Now what was Bush age at that time. Bush was never deserted by his father, and as a boy did not loose his mother to cancer so what was his excuse. Yet Republicans put cocaine crackhead Bush into office TWICE.
But then what would election year be without REPUBLICAN DOUBLE STANDARDS!

Posted by: mere | October 11, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am

“she wouldn’t know if she did… is half the problem.”
I’d say, that’s an even bigger problem — she doesn’t have a clue of what kind of conduct is expected of an elected official.
What the report highlights and what its conclusion — that Palin has abused her power — is based on is the tremendous pressure that Palin has exerted, directly by herself and indirectly through her husband and subordinates, on her public safety commissioner to fire the trooper. Based on such findings, the report actually concludes that Palin has violated the law.

Posted by: chris | October 11, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am

Oh BS. She used her office and can’t control her husband. JUST what we need in a VP or Pres. She is unethical and needs to be removed from the ticket.

Posted by: Scy | October 11, 2008, 7:05 am 7:05 am

Like John McCain this lady just doesn’t get it. She apparently heard a different version of the bi partisian investigating panel made up of 10 republicans and 4 democrats.

Posted by: con me not | October 11, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am

you loontune socialists aren’t lawyers but parrots of the Obama talking points, and to think that your politics are being taken seriously is very scarey

Posted by: ray sternberg | October 11, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am

reddog
she was able to get the money from the oil companies (as they paid for her inauguration and rehired her husband ugh) because they were seeing huge windfall profits…
she didn’t have to fight them for it.
that is a bunch of crapola
She also had this 80% favorability rating because she taxed the oil companies (and they were willing because that is where their oil was coming from oy) and increased her states budget by 60%
Paris Hilton and Hitler’s love child would have gotten 75.
this woman is very bad for our country
and John mccain knows it
and obviously from yesterday is starting to realize it more and more each day.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 7:07 am 7:07 am

oh,the irorny posted “I know everybody hates corporations right now but the fact of the matter is they are the ones who create jobs.You think Obama is going to raise taxes on mega corporations”
They were supposed to trickle down the tax cuts to lower and middle class. They shipped our jobs to China and Mexico. Raise the FRIGGEN taxes on these pricks and make them pay for the hijacking of US Taxes!

Posted by: MooseCrap | October 11, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

She’s incompetent. Her character is not my family’s first concern. She could have her finger on the launch button of 8,000 nuclear weapons in January if McCain dropped dead.

Posted by: ken | October 11, 2008, 7:08 am 7:08 am

ray
parrots can tell facts too
seems you should try listening
the other team doesn’t seem to be winning on straightforward facts.
same team
same tactics 9th year.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

It is so funny how everytime McCain or Palin do anything it is on every news broadcast, but all of Nobama’s shady doings are not. Ayers, Rezko, and now Acorn with all of the illegal voter registration. If we think it is bad now…wait until Nov 5th and there is Pres Nobama….God forbid!

Posted by: McCainPres08 | October 11, 2008, 7:09 am 7:09 am

I think Palin is not fit to lead anybody. How could she put her hand on a bible and swear to defend and uphold the constitution and laws of the United States? But then, this is also a lady who claims to be a Christian, but who has acted in a MOST UNCHRISTIAN manner since she was given authority over others. Meek and mild, Sarah. That is how Christians should behave. Not like Nazis. Shame!

Posted by: Deborah from NC | October 11, 2008, 7:10 am 7:10 am

Their all crooks and out for personal gain only!..including Palin,Obama,McCain,Bush all of them. We (the public) need to open our eyes and realize that we are only choosing between the lesser of the two evils. Its all about greed.

Posted by: 2die4 | October 11, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Yet again she is refusing to be interviewd. They will point the finger at someone else, go and speak at more rallies to promote hatred toward Barack Obama so they can use fear to gain votes, and her supporters will defend her every step of the way even if she refuses to speak to anyone about it like she has a few times already. Maybe she is getting coached first. If she would be such a great VP than why does the McCain campaign hide her and protect her as much as they do? She told the country she did nothing wrong, then they tried to stop the investigation when it started BEFORE she was picked for VP, then she said she wouldn’t cooperate. Now we know why the McCain campaign tried so hard to keep her away from that investigation because she did in fact do something wrong and they wanted to hide it from the American people.

Posted by: Andrea | October 11, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

and ray sturnberg
obviously from the Mccain rally we saw yesterday (and hopefully everyone gets to see the interviews that were outside the hall …it will send a cold shiver down your spine)
the “loontunes” that you want to refer to
have picked the same side as “timothy Mcveigh” and “Joe Vogel” would have… …Palin and Cheney’s

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Palin = liar

Posted by: Cia | October 11, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Well the McCain campaign wanted to shift the converstaion off of the economy, but I don’t think this is what they had in mind. Palin comes off as a vapid, vindictive beauty queen. She sets back womens issues 100 years.

Posted by: Mark in Florida | October 11, 2008, 7:11 am 7:11 am

First, how does Palin make any comments when she did not cooperate and submit her e-mails. First, she went against oil companies, however, she kept the money for the bridge to nowhere and request and accepted more money in earmark, even though she lied and said she has not. SHE IS A LIAR JUST LIKE BUSH AND MCCAIN. SHE IS ON THE RIGHT TICKET.

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Hey ABC, why no mention of The report from Louis Farrakhan that Obama is the “messiah” of the Islamic world? Isn’t that much more concerning than this one on Palin.

Posted by: Audrey | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

One of my favorite bits is when Todd spent the day stalking Wooten and photographed the trooper riding on his snowmobile.
Todd proud of this eveidence that Wooten rode a snow mobile while out on workers comp showed Monegan the photos.
Little did secret agent Todd know that he spent all day in the cold for nothing. Wooten’s doctor had authorized the snowmobile trip.
Poor Todd, i hope you didnt get a cold hiding in the droves of snow with your cell phone camera.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Let me get this right… The investigating committee knew from the get-go that the governor had the legal right to fire and replace any cabinet member she wanted. The jerk of trooper still is a trooper. No laws were broken. Mission Embarrassment accomplished at the cost of the taxpayers!

Posted by: Brad | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Posted by: Oh, the Irony | Oct 11, 2008 10:21:04 AM
I know everybody hates corporations right now but the fact of the matter is they are the ones who create jobs.You think Obama is going to raise taxes on mega corporations.Did you know Ireland which had the worlds highest corporations tax lowered it and actually created more jobs and revenue???
Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 11, 2008 10:25:57 AM
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I guess you don’t realize the Bush Tax cut was suppose to create joba. What happen? Job lose 750,000.000 in last 9 months. The corporations are getting tax cuts and creating jobs in another countries. Your opinion does hold water.

Posted by: valforobama | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Sarah Palin is a pathological liar.

Posted by: dewey | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

PALIN: AGREE TO BE INTERVIEWED!!!

Posted by: samurai | October 11, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Palin ran the state of Alaska like it was her high school student council. She appointed unqualified high school friends to positions such as Secretary of Agriculture, and she whacked the folks who wouldn’t wink at her. Is that such a bad thing? Only if you are worried that this person is a heartbeat away from the presidency and you don’t want the federal government run the same way.

Posted by: JAB | October 11, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

Rezko,Rezko,Rezko. Keep throwing that sick of butter to wall. Keep posting Ayres,Ayres,Ayres. Hillary threw that stick of butter too. It is not sticking.
These news agencies have checked and checked these allegations. There is little at best.

Posted by: MooseCrap | October 11, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

More proof that she is unfit for VP. She’s found guilty so she decides to ignore the findings. Basically ignores the law.
You’ve been found guilty you rabid pitbull! Just acknowledge it and and admit you were wrong.

Posted by: Marlene | October 11, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

It’s unfortunate McCain appealed to the loony right fringe when picking this incompetent VP candidate. If the fellow had picked a Hutchinson or Liz Dole, he could have cut a wide swath down the middle as Reagan and Nixon did. Palin is now a millstone around the McCain’s neck…one he chose himself. Only Republican groupies are so blinded to see her as a competent President in January.

Posted by: ken | October 11, 2008, 7:16 am 7:16 am

A State Trooper tasers an 11 old child and only gets a five day suspension…. and is not charged with child abuse……. and ABC and Democrats think Palin is the one in the wrong here, what a joke this WHOLE issue is……. never knew ABC and the Democrats love child abusing Cops so much…..

Posted by: Vet1973 | October 11, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

Sarah Palin is the mean pretty girl we all knew in high school. Most of these mean girls grew out of it. The proof that Palin did not grow out of it is that she still believes she did no wrong. She has no remorse.

Posted by: riddelup | October 11, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

I am an independent and have been since’98. Here’s my take, the GOP have selected the wrong nominee and he picked the wrong running mate. Sorry it’s just the truth as I see it.
Sure Obama is not perfect, who is? But he’s beating you on the issues, fund raising, intelligence and he’s beating you on the controversies. Let’s face each election will have one or ten.
McCain and Palin are handing Barack Obama the Presidency, and it just might be to late to get it back.

Posted by: GOP, you picked the wrong guy | October 11, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

She may not have broken the law, but they did find she violated ETHICS rules. Isn’t that bad enough? I think Palin should put a muzzle on when it comes to speaking about Obama’s character. Wouldn’t you agree? After all her character is now in question.

Posted by: Givemeabreak | October 11, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

You democrats are freakin’ nuts. Every line I read in the above confirm it. Talk about abuse. Let’s talk about murdering full term healthy babies and sucking out their brains as the head comes out of the birth canal. Pro-choice – ha – I say, Pro-murder. You just can not admit your sinister agenda. How pitiful, how murderous, how selfish and dangerous each of you are. All this rhetoric is just a pathetic distraction from what you really are. Don’t bother responding to me because I’m not reading ANYTHING more you idiots write.

Posted by: Susan | October 11, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

OBAMA BARACK has a beautiful name and was fortunate that his name was not taken from him and he was given a slave master name. TO ALL THE MCCAIN SUPPORTERS THAT ARE WORRY ABOUT AYERS, HOW ironic, from my perspective, We all know who has cornered the market on Domestic Terrorist and its funny to hear White America have a conscious now about being concerned about Ayers. I’m sure Dr. King, Medgar Evers and the thousands of blacks that were victims to America’s domestic violence are turning over in their graves!!! Is there a politician or government agency that was not a participant and is the University of Chicago now a terrorist?

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2008, 7:20 am 7:20 am

Say It Ain’t So, Joe!
Just like Gonzalas she abused her powers in office! Rumsfield, Bush and Cheney and now Palin. So much for her Maverick style. She is the same ol’ Washington politician. Abuse of Power!
So much for McCains judgement.
No Honor, No trust. No Palin!

Posted by: spoon2456 | October 11, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

Yup, Yup, they all say that!

Posted by: Thinking | October 11, 2008, 7:21 am 7:21 am

Why do you always try to dishoner the Republicans.but never saying bad about OBAMA.and his Ties to ACORN who are destroying our right to VOTE.Please be hon
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Nick,
First off ACORN registered 40% Republicans.
Second, Obama has NOTHING to do with the current accusations. NOTHING. Any wrong doing, which there may very well be some, are from individual employees not affiliated with him or his campaign. Anything beyond that is unsubstatiated accusation that comes directly from McCain’s campaign. Not the most credible source these days.
Most importantly, the Pubs have used voter supression in every election.
Their attempt to discredit ACORN is another example. They can eliminate entire voting blocks if they get to challange registrations. (Notice that all the challenges are in highly contested states and were started by Republicans)It happened in 2000, 2004, and it’s happening again.
BBC had a great program on how voter suppression has been accomplished. Also the relationship between the GOP and groups who suppress the votes.
But of course, the BBC is “biased” right? Sure, the British Broadcasting Company is also “in the tank” for Obama.

Posted by: This smear has gotten boring.... | October 11, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

Palin is in violation of the law, that she swore to uphold. Palin, therefore, must resign the office that she has betrayed. No more round-about e-mails, or refusing to answer questions by the duly elected legislature or feigning ignorance. 10 republicans and 4 democrats signed on to the single Gov Palin is in VIOLATION. Regular six-pack Joe’s get sacked for VIOLATIONS on the job. Or Is Palin just another bare-faced hypocritical Republican?

Posted by: Jack | October 11, 2008, 7:22 am 7:22 am

Palin fired a good and decient man because he wouldn’t do her spite work. How sorry can you get! this is shamefull!!!

Posted by: JimM | October 11, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

Why does she deny something that we now know to be a fact? Simple! It’s a pattern of behavior!
Just look at all the ridiculous claims she has made and continues to make: Obama pals around with terrorists; she sold the governor’s plan on eBay; she’s against pork and the bridge to nowhere; now add that she didn’t abuse or power as governor; all of these are outright lies, but anything to further her agenda is fair game in her eyes.
And that’s what makes this woman a serious danger to society if she ever gets in any real position of power. Wholly unqualified and intellectually incurious about anything outside her narrow-minded circle, she attempts to compensate with irrational confidence and manufactured “folksy” charm. I’m telling you this woman is the female version of George Bush…maybe even worse. At least Bush now admits that severe global warming is a man-made phenomena. Palin is still denying that.
Posted by: TVI | Oct 11, 2008 10:50:52 AM
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This statement is absolutely right on!

Posted by: valforobama | October 11, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

The scary thing is Sarah Palin seems to see nothing wrong with having her husband use the trappings of the governor’s office – for whatever reason. She was elected, not he!
She also should not have allowed her staff members to make numerous calls of the nature disclosed. Either this was done on her orders or she wasn’t keeping up with what her staff was doing. Which way should we read it?
What we’re seeing is true small-town politics from simpletons who are unfit for serving at a national level.
There’s a reason we need to have candidates who have been scrutinized at the national level for a reasonable length of time before catapulting them onto a national ticket. This is it!
Paul L

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am

Vet1973 is trying to justify this by using the trooper.
Again, the investigation was about abuse of power and the firing of a DIFFERENT employee.
This was not about the trooper.
The METHODS used and the fact that a NON-ELECTED individual used the offce of the governor for personal vendettas was the point!

Posted by: Here we go again | October 11, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

I am from Canada. We are also having an general election also. Guess what? The Canadian election is also Conservative vs Liberal. The only difference is there is hardly any personal attacks here in Canada. If you act mature, the world will respect you more. FYI, the rest of the world fear US because of their irrational behavior. The last 8 years US has became unpredictable because you can’t differentiate rights from wrongs, or for that matter, facts from fictions.

Posted by: kool | October 11, 2008, 7:25 am 7:25 am

Guys the Rep from Acorn was on Larry King last night and she made the perfect response to all this non-sense.
‘Good thing we have system that works, see everyone in every state needs to show a government issued ID so they can vote’
Disaster evaded.

Posted by: GOP, you picked the wrong guy | October 11, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

You betcha. What all you elitist Lower 48′ers don’t realize is that in Alaska, when a report says “unlawfully abused her authority” that actually means that nothing unlawful or unethical occurred. Well okely dokely! (Wink.)
Or… it means that Sarah Palin is a complete train wreck. One of the two.

Posted by: ElodieStClair | October 11, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

Yes, there are those good Christian values at work promoting vendettas, breaking the law and harassing a well respected man until he loses his job because he wouldn’t do the same thing.
As a Christian Ms. Palin’s proud ability to bear false witness is one reason I wouldn’t vote for her for dog catcher.

Posted by: Annie | October 11, 2008, 7:27 am 7:27 am

So what Louis Farrakan stated Obama is the Messaih, was Obama there. If Louis Farrakan like Obama and thinks he is the Messaih that is his business. I’m sure there is minister that thought Bush was GOD. Bush thinks he is GOD. Please Farrakan can say and do what he wants. Obama is a Christain and if there is a muslin that supports him, then let them support him. Stop trying to justify your ignorance. The only reason, you are made about Farrakan, Ayers is blantantly because OBAMA IS A BLACK MAN AND YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THAT “N” IS GOING TO BE PRESIDENT!! THIS IS 2008 NOT 1968, WHAT HAS BEING A RACIST DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY. IT’S LITERALLY DESTROYED MILLIONS OF LIVES AND I’M NOT GOING TO THE BACK OF THE BUS.

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

Sometimes what appears right is wrong.. and was appears wrong is right.
There’s more than meets the eye here- -and frankly, Gov Palin had no time to fight or justify her case. It seems to me the “victim” in question has been after Gov Palin for quite a while. She was fighting back justly– and now had to deal with all this backlog. This is just a non-issue..
(And yes.. I’m not a Palin voter– just a fair say).

Posted by: Ness | October 11, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Ray sternberg seems to be living in the same ethical desert as most of these right wingers. They run a man of no character professionally(Keating five read his pleading)and personally (his treatment of his 1st family which even he is aptly ashamed of) and a woman who so stupid they have to sheild her from the press. Just when you think they can’t be any slimier there’s this.

Posted by: Lincster | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

If elected, she won’t even have to clean out Cheney’s desk.

Posted by: Nelly | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

She did nothing wrong — you betcha!
After all, didn’t the McCain campaign clear her of any wrongdoing the day before the troopergate report was released?
Abuse-of-Power Barbie, I can see the end of your political career from my house!

Posted by: Katia | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

ABC describes her sister’s divorce as messy. That’s a blatant example of editorializing and bias within the mainstream media.
Tell me ABC, do think having the lives of you and your family threatened by the ex-spouse and your 10 year old child tazed by the same person is just your average messy divorce.
Do you believe this is proper behavior for a cop who is suppose to protect the public. This is where the real abuse of power occurred. If Sarah wanted this cop fired, she was doing the community a service by trying to get this guy off the force.

Posted by: Eng59 | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

Come on People everytime something comes up with Sarah Palin and her wrong doing or saying there’s a return request to compare to Obama, shhhh here’s a news flash OBAMA IS NOT RUNNING AGAINST PALIN, OBAMA IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAINST MCCAIN. Palin does not have the qualifications to run as vice president and to think she could be president. Let’ stick to the ticket OBAMA VS MCCAIN & BIDEN vs PALIN.

Posted by: flyingfree | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

I am so discusted with the smears, the lies, and the hate coming from the GOP. I will never VOTE for a Republican and this is why. Sarah Palin abused her power! If her dismissal was legitmate than why was her husband so involved?? Republicans are such hypocrits and full of double standards it’s amazing! I never have been so appauled by a campaign as the one being run by John McCain and his supporters.

Posted by: joe | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

initialy she mentioned that she has nothing to do with the removal of the COP, now she atleast agrees that she did remove him….
She acknowledged the LIE…
Thanks Ms. Sarah Palin…America doesn’t need your Services…

Posted by: R A | October 11, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

Palin broke Alaska’s ethics law. This was determined by an independent prosecutor, hired by a Republican legislature. The report was made public by a Repbulican dominated committee (10-4 Republican-Democrat) by a unanimous vote.
Anyone out there still feeling good about McCain’s fifteen minute vetting process?

Posted by: Jackie | October 11, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am

Neo-cons never think they abuse power, they think they’re entitled. Look at Bush/Cheney they don’t think they did any thing wrong either.

Posted by: JR | October 11, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

Palin had every opportunity to address this issue and she chose as she has throughout the campaign to hide froml the questions. Whether from the press or the ethics panel exploring Troopergate.

Posted by: lincster | October 11, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

People at SNl are disappointed … now they won’t get material for the show ever…

Posted by: R A | October 11, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Posted by: Oh, the Irony | Oct 11, 2008 10:21:04 AM
I know everybody hates corporations right now but the fact of the matter is they are the ones who create jobs.You think Obama is going to raise taxes on mega corporations.Did you know Ireland which had the worlds highest corporations tax lowered it and actually created more jobs and revenue???
You say: I know everybody hates corporations right now but the fact of the matter is they are the ones who create jobs.
Duhhh, have you read how many 10s of thousands of jobs have been lost? Yeah, your corporations are sure doing a good job of keeping our jobs with Republicans lowering their taxes.

Posted by: LOfromMO1 | October 11, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Well, that Palin has joined Macain as the only canidate to face ethics investigation and found tainted, I hope they honor their promise to clean washington and recuse themselves. For all those incredulous supporters who have no buisness with facts, neither Obama nor Biden have such “convictions” on their record. About that drug issue, the only person who is found guilty and sentenced to community service and led to the loss of a medical licence by her pusher is NOT Michele but Cindy macain!

Posted by: Zazu | October 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

The WORST candidate in my lifetime.
What she died is a violation of all laws covering dismissal of Law Enforcement Officers.
She will be a danger if she ever gets close to the White House.
Hitler in a DRESS.

Posted by: CHUCK | October 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

The MAIN reason for this investigation was SUPPOSIVELY to be whether or not she illegally fired Monegan —- the REPORT SPECIFICALLY SAYS SHE DIDNT…. so why does the MEDIA choose to IGNORE the PRIME issue and focus its BLARING Headlines on a MINOR side issue…… we all know why…. the Democrats and the MEDIA hate Palin….. so now they have a ONE-SIDED report written by a Democrat to go after her with on a SIDE issue. It’s nice to know that ABC and the Demoncrates are so concerned about a child abusing cops job…

Posted by: Vet1973 | October 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Why does she deny something that we now know to be a fact? Simple! It’s a pattern of behavior!
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Great post.
Of course it will fall on deaf ears.
Put a waving flag on a screen, play the national amthem, say a few psuedo patriotic platitudes and Republican supporters will believe anything you say – even though the facts show just the opposite.
The RNC convention proves this.

Posted by: Right on the money | October 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Well, McCain wanted a co-maverick for a running mate and he sure got one. Most everything that has come to light about her in the last few weeks has been questionable…from her questionable experience for qualifying for the VP position to her questionable ethics as governor (by the way her platform in 2006 for running for governor was “ethics reform”), to her quetionable ability in public speaking (she seems to be passable after receiving intense coaching from the McCain Team and when she memorizes/teleprompts scripts but has much trouble with speaking directly and coherently in unrehearsed interviews.) Lately, she has shown the ability to incite rage from crowds while publicly assassinating the character of Obama. In Alaska, they call her husband “co-Governor”. Yep, MacCain got a gun totin’, power abusin’, rage incitin’, unqualified, self-described pit bull, eye-winkin’, non-thinkin’ co-maverick in Palin. At the very least, she is an embarrassment to Alaska. At the very most, America (and McCain) “watch out for this maverick!”

Posted by: Vicki | October 11, 2008, 7:35 am 7:35 am

I was watching ABC’s Good Morning America today 10-11-08. How disappointing and biased. I listened to CNN and Fox news last night about the report that came out yesterday concerning the firing of Monegan. The report cleared Palin of any wrong doing in the firing of Monegan. He was dismissed simply because of budget issues and failure to fill troop vacancies. What the news does not tell you that he was offered another position as executive director of the Alcohol Beverage and Control Board, but at lesser pay. He resigned instead of accepting that new position. You twisted the facts. The ethic implication was that her husband and staff used Government facilities for addressing concerns over Trooper Wooten. A man who tasered his son, illegally shot a moose, drinking in his police car. He lied about injuring his back on duty to collect workman’s comp, but could not collect. He had to return back to work after proof that the injury did not impede his ability to ride his snow machine. He also threatened Sarah’s father’s life in a phone call.
I just listened to the full 24 minutes of the Baley Phone Call that the media is referring to the connection between Monegan and the firing of Trooper Wooten. It exonerates rather than implicates the Palin’s involvement. Baley stated that Gov. Palin does not hold a grudge, she likes Walt Monegan, and that Sarah and her husband Todd told her people to stay away, there is nothing we can do.
The Palins were coopering with the investigation until the involvement of democrats State Senator’s. Kim Elton, the chairman of the Legislative Council, and Hollis French, the Judiciary Committee chairman became directly involved in the probe. Later French stated in an Sept 2 interview with who else but ABC an “October surprise” that would “likely be damaging to the administration.” ABC was only too happy to give the American public a one-side view this morning. Shame on you ABC GMA, I only has two words for you, YELLOW JOURNALISM.
From Obama’s web site, any of these names look familiar.
The following Alaska elected officials are supporting Senator Obama’s campaign for president:
State Senators (8)
Bettye Davis, Anchorage
Johnny Ellis, Anchorage
Kim Elton, Juneau
Hollis French, Anchorage
Lyman Hoffman, Bethel
Albert Kookesh, Angoon
Joe Thomas, Fairbanks
Bill Wielechowski, Anchorage

Posted by: terri | October 11, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Just like Cheney…nothing “illegal” LOLOLOLOL whatever…

Posted by: monty | October 11, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

How many of us would accept “likely” as a legally prevailing standard if we were to be put on trial? What happened to “we have determined” or “the evidence makes clear”? Unfortunately, these stronger terms opens the accusers to a higher standard and in this case that standard obviously could not be met. This “mixed motive” finding smells of a fishing expedition with a predetermined conclusion. It is also strange that the panel cleared Governor Palin of the charge of unlawful termination that was the basis for the inquiry but still went on to smear her with an ethics accusation that was not part of the review. This is even more concerning when it appears the statute she was accused of breaking specifically requires some type of financial component. The investigator ignored this to make his allegation – also troubling.

Posted by: James | October 11, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Regardless if she broke the law or not, this displays poor decision making, which we DON’T need in the white house.

Posted by: Rob | October 11, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

The WORST candidate in my lifetime.
What she died is a violation of all laws covering dismissal of Law Enforcement Officers.
She will be a danger if she ever gets close to the White House.
Hitler in a DRESS.

Posted by: CHUCK | October 11, 2008, 7:36 am 7:36 am

Is this like “no controlling legal authority” that the republicans used against Al Gore?
That’s why they called it an ETHICS INVESTIGATION. Sarah violated ethics while sidestepping the law.
She will likely have charges brought against her, found guilty and fined for her “poor judgement” which is code for unethical behavior.
Sarah, she can dish it out, but she can’t take it.

Posted by: Crooked Palin | October 11, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

The facts from this story:
“The legislature’s inquiry concluded that Palin abused her power in the case, and that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten “was not the sole reason” but was “likely a contributing factor” to his firing.
The report, however, also concluded that Palin was within her right to remove Monegan from his position.”
“Troopergate” is a politically motivated non-issue.

Posted by: LJC | October 11, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

ABUSE OF POWER may not be illegal . . . but is this the kind of person we want in the White House? Not me.

Posted by: Aletheia | October 11, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am

kool:
Mind your own business. You Canadians wouldn’t appreciate it if Americans went onto a Canadian blog and threw in their opinion of Canadian politics.
This is our fight — you stay out of it.

Posted by: Lea | October 11, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am

Who is the real Barr..a..ck,… wait,….what, the report came out!?!? TODD! WHAT SHOULD I DO??!!!

Posted by: skulls&bones | October 11, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am

When I see the Palin/Heath families, I swear I hear dueling banjos from Deliverance.. If they honestly thought that the trooper that was married to Sarah’s sister threatened to kill the father (the Heath guy) the trooper would be history. This is just Alaskan family trash and the good folks in Alaska deserve better then this garbage.

Posted by: Clint | October 11, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am

You democrats are freakin’ nuts. Every line I read in the above confirm it. Talk about abuse. Let’s talk about murdering full term healthy babies and sucking out their brains as the head comes out of the birth canal. Pro-choice – ha – I say, Pro-murder. You just can not admit your sinister agenda. How pitiful, how murderous, how selfish and dangerous each of you are. All this rhetoric is just a pathetic distraction from what you really are. Don’t bother responding to me because I’m not reading ANYTHING more you idiots write.
Posted by: Susan | Oct 11, 2008 11:19:39 AM
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Good idea! Take your rage and hate to Mccain’s rallies. This about the economy stupid. Many republicans who voted for Bush because of his stance on abortions and now they are voting Obama because of the economy. Now you republicans losing your money and than don’t care now about the abortion issue at all. When comes down to your pockets books, life is means nothing now to these type of people who are anti abortion.

Posted by: valforobama | October 11, 2008, 7:43 am 7:43 am

This gives us great insight as to what a Palin vice presidency would be like. Shew ignores the findings of her own state.

Posted by: jamey | October 11, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Gosh, Kind of reminds me of Hillary and the Whitehouse travel office, where were you all screaming then. Mild abuse of power is one of its benefits, get over it.

Posted by: Phillip | October 11, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am

It was nice of the committee to dump this information on a Friday night. I find it the portrayal of the committee as a partisan attack as laughable. I mean there was 8 republicans and 4 democrats.
I love the spin of the mccain camp. agreeing with state law that she can fire anyone. Of course she can, but she can not abuse her power to get someone fired

Posted by: Pig | October 11, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am

Palin lies America dies. Abuse of power and the violation of public trust is the worst offense and elected official in America could commit. If allowed,it can destroy our uniquely American freedoms. The republicans can play word games to try to cover this up, but the facts are the facts. Palin is just like Richard Nixon, who resigned over abuse of power, after extensive denial. Palin will eventually be exposed for the arrogant power hungry politician she really is, this is the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: bob10001 | October 11, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Ethics Violation – John McCain
Ethics violation – Sarah Palin
Drug Charges – Cindy McCain
Seems what we really need to “reform” is the Republican party.
(Nomally I would leave Cindy McCain out, but since she feels she can say Obama has run the “dirtiest campaign in history”, we certainly can look into her credibility as well.)

Posted by: Reform Yourselves | October 11, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am

Abuse of power but nothing illegal….reminiscent of the current administration. If you want to see what type of VP Palin will be look at Cheney. She already said during the debate as much. And if you want to see what type of president McCain will be look at George W. Lunging from problem to problem with no coherent strategy.

Posted by: indy_voter | October 11, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

I cringe when I think of Bush representing us at this financial meeting with world leaders. It is embarassing but then I think of possibly Palin in the meeting and Bush doesn’t seem so bad. It would be even scarier to have a President Palin in these troubled times. We need smart educated leaders representing the USA in these meetings. . . .like Obama/Biden. I get sick when I think that some people vote for the person they want to have a beer with. I vote for who I want in a meeting with world financial leaders.

Posted by: MJ Donaldson | October 11, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

As governor, Palin had the authority to get rid of the commissioner for not doing his job and most especially the trooper for abusing his authority. The trooper should be in jail right now for tasering a 10 year old and making terroristic threats to the governors family.
If the liberals putting Sarah down on this post had a child that was tasered, you would be demanding the troopers head on a platter and the commissioners also for not doing his job.
As it was, Palin offered him another position and he turned it down and quit. I think that was kind considering all that had transpired.
The bigger story is the questionable donations to Obama’s campaign, his shady Rezko land deal and his friendship to known terrorists who should still be in jail for killing a police officer and bombing a family’s home, while they were in it.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:50 am 7:50 am

hmmmmmmmmmmmm…this isnt the headlines that some of the other national news agencies report….exactly the opposite from what m s n reported i believe…interesting.

Posted by: tweetysathome | October 11, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

“Stepped-up negative attacks on Obama, stirring up crowds with hatred, but wait!… I’m beginning to believe in Karma.”
They probably knew this report was going to look be for Palin and all the negative attacks were just pre-emptive damage control.

Posted by: Bushinaskirt | October 11, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

McCain has now lost the ethical card, after tossing out the ‘experience’ card by chosing Palin as VP. He needs to dump this woman TODAY and get back on track. She’s no longer just a joke…now she’s a bad joke.
In the next few decades everytime a sidkick is chosen the name ‘Palin’ will cone up as lesson in the need for diligence.

Posted by: ken | October 11, 2008, 7:52 am 7:52 am

“Tell me ABC, do think having the lives of you and your family threatened by the ex-spouse and your 10
year old child tazed by the same person is just your average messy divorce.
Do you believe this is proper behavior for a cop who is suppose to protect the public. This is where the
real abuse of power occurred. If Sarah wanted this cop fired, she was doing the community a service by
trying to get this guy off the force.”
No, this is typical white trash behavior and it’s what’s wrong with America. The trouble is, Palin and her husband are right in the middle of it.
Nobody should be above the law. The Governor is not the Attorney General. In the Wild West, she might have made a citizen’s arrest but this isn’t the Wild Wild West. We’re talking about the VP.
It is not enough to respect the letter of the law. The spirit of the law must be upheld by our elected officials and they must retain a level of propriety that is an example for all of us.

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Wow I could imagine Todd in the White House. Im seeing him issuing orders to Secret Service to ‘deal’ with anyone who has offended the ‘First Dude’ in the past or in the future.
Todd will finally reach the goal of his dreams; independence day for Alaska.
Sarah is scary, Todd is just unimaginable.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Okay Rob. You said, “Regardless if she broke the law or not, this displays poor decision making, which we DON’T need in the white house.”
You made a typographical error, it should be he rather than she.
HE, Obama, demonstrated poor decision making skills when HE chose to associate with Wright, Ayers, Raines, Johnson, Acorn, Woods Foundation.
Come on, when are you people going to stop drinking the kool aid, and see Obama for who he is. He will thrust this country into a far deeper recession if Obama and his congressional cronies have their way.

Posted by: ENG59 | October 11, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am

(AP) Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain’s Republican ticket.
Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report for a bipartisan panel that investigated the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.
The report said Palin played an active role in a vendetta against the trooper, Michael Wooten, involved in a bitter divorce and custody battle with the governor’s sister.
Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, which states, “…each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
The inquiry also looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire Wooten. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
The investigation revealed that Palin’s husband, Todd, who is not a state employee, has extraordinary access to the governor’s office and her closest advisers. The report said that he used that access to try to get trooper Wooten fired, and that there is evidence the governor herself participated in the effort.
The report found that Palin let the family grudge influence her decision-making even if it was not the sole reason Monegan was dismissed.
“I feel vindicated,” Monegan said. “It sounds like they’ve validated my belief and opinions. And that tells me I’m not totally out in left field.”
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Read “Troopergate” Report Findings
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Branchflower also said that the Attorney General’s office failed to “substantially comply” with his request for e-mails related to the case. After a delay in locating more than 200 e-mails from several employees in Palin’s office, the Attorney General notified investigators that he was asserted privilege over them.
The report criticized Palin, saying in her role as Governor …
“[Palin] knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired. She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to cease contacting subordinates, but she failed to act.
“Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interest for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior’s displeasure and the possible consequences of such displeasure. This was one of the very reasons the Ethics Act was promulgated by the Legislature.”
As the reports underscores, “Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional.”
Among the reasons Palin has stated as why she sought the termination of Wooten was because of alleged threats made to her extended family. However, the report questions the validity of that excuse, for several reasons:
“Governor Palin has stated publicly that she and her family feared Trooper Wooten. Yet the evidence presented has been inconsistent with such claims of fear. The testimony from Trooper Wheeler, who was part of her security detail from the start, was that shortly after [being] elected to office, she ordered a substantial reduction in manpower to her personal protection detail in both Anchorage and Juneau, an act that is inconsistent with a desire to avoid harm from Trooper Wooten or others. Moreover, assuming that Trooper Wooten was ever inclined to attack Governor Palin or a family member, logic dictates that getting him fired would accomplish nothing to eliminate the potential harm to her or her family. On the contrary, it might just precipitate some retaliatory conduct on his part. Causing Wooten to loose his job would not have de-escalated the situation, or provided her or her family with greater security. …
“I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons.”
Branchflower wrote that an interview with Palin (who refused to provide testimony to the investigation, after having first agreed to participate) “would have assisted everyone to better understand her motives,” and explain why she allowed the pressure to fire Wooten continue unabated for several months, even after knowing the trooper had already been disciplined and that his casebook was closed.
The report said that Palin had the constitutional authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads. Branchflower said that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten was “likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety,” but that it was not the sole reason.
As reason for terminating Monegan, Palin offered what she termed his “rogue mentality,” an example of which was his work with a Republican state legislator to seek funding for a program that she had previously vetoed.
Monegan, a former Anchorage police chief who was hired by Palin shortly after she took office, testified that he received repeated communications against Trooper Wooten’s employment.
In one case in August 2007, the governor had found out that Wooten was to work “light duty” at the state fair – in costume as “Safety Bear.” Despite the fact that Wooten would be unrecognizable in the mascot’s outfit, Monegan received a call from Kris Perry, director of the Governor’s Anchorage office, saying they had learned Wooten would attend at the same time that Palin was to put in an appearance. Monegan then suggested to Wooten’s supervisor that he not attend, suggesting the bear costume might restrict his vision or ability to move.
When asked if the reason Monegan had Wooten switched off the state fair duty was over concern for the trooper’s health (because of the confining suit) or some other reason, Monegan replied that he was more worried about his own health.
“Your employment health?” the investigator asked.
“Yes,” Monegan said.
The report notes that the governor “lost confidence” in Monegan when, on the eve of this year’s annual Police Memorial Day ceremony in May, he forwarded her a poster of a trooper holding a flag for her to sign and present at the event, not realizing that the photograph was of Trooper Wooten. Palin cancelled her appearance at the event.
Palin and McCain’s supporters had hoped the inquiry’s finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain’s running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama.
Several Republican state legislators went to court last week to try to block the release of the legislative council report, and appealed to the state Supreme Court when their request was denied. The high court affirmed on Thursday that the courts should not block the report.
Trying to head off the potentially damaging report, McCain campaign officials released their own report Thursday that stated Palin was clear of any wrongdoing.
But the panel of lawmakers voted unanimously to release the official report, although not without dissension. There was no immediate vote on whether to endorse its findings.
“I think there are some problems in this report,” said Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. “I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye.”
The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation; lawmakers don’t have the authority to sanction her for such a violation and they gave no indication they would take any action against her.
“It is out of the Legislative Council’s hands. It goes to anyone’s hands who got a copy or clicks the link on the Web,” said Democratic state Senator Kim Elton, the chairman of the committee that released the report. “I can’t tell you how the process ends.”
Under Alaska law, it is up to the state’s Personnel Board, not the Legislature, to pursue the governor’s violations of ethics laws.
The Personnel Board is made up of three members who are appointed by the Governor. One of the board’s members was re-appointed by Palin when she took office; another contributed to her gubernatorial campaign.
If action is approved, the board must refer the matter to the Senate president for disciplinary action. Violations also carry a possible fine of up to $5,000.
An attorney for Palin disagreed with the findings.
“In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain, usually financial. Mr. Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain,” attorney Thomas Van Flein said.
On The Early Show, GOP strategist Ed Rollins said that, with the McCain campaign “sputtering,” the Troopergate revelations are just “one more little thing.”
He focused on the report’s finding that she did not overstep her authority as Governor in firing Monegan. “There’s no evidence she did anything improper in firing the commissioner. She can fire anybody in her cabinet she wants to.”
Democratic strategist Kiki McLean, however, said, “I think most people have probably already settled on their opinion on Sarah Palin about whether they want her to be one heartbeat away.”
A Long-Running Dispute
Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over allegations that he illegally shot a moose, drank beer in a patrol car, and used a Taser on his stepson.
In proceedings revealed by the report, former Alaska State Trooper Col. Julia Grimes told investigators that Sarah Palin called her in late 2005 to discuss why Wooten hadn’t been fired, and Grimes told her the inquiry was confidential by law.
“Her questions were how can a trooper who behaves this way still be working,” Grimes said. “I asked her to please trust me, that because I can’t tell her details I would ask her to please trust me that I would take the appropriate action if and when I knew what the findings were. … I couldn’t have another conversation with her about it because, again, it’s protected by law.”
Grimes said Todd Palin also contacted her by telephone in late 2005 to discuss the confidential investigation of Wooten.
Wooten’s disciplinary case was settled in September 2006 – months before Palin was elected governor – and he was allowed to continue working as a trooper.
After Palin’s election, her new public safety commissioner, Monegan, said he was summoned to the governor’s office to meet Todd Palin, who said Wooten’s punishment had been merely a “slap on the wrist.” Monegan said he understood the Palins wanted Wooten fired. “I had this kind of ominous feeling that I may not be long for this job if I didn’t somehow respond accordingly,” Monegan told the investigator.
For months afterward, Todd Palin filed complaints about Wooten, saying he was seen riding a snowmobile after he had filed a worker’s compensation claim and was seen dropping off his children at school in his patrol car. Monegan said Wooten’s doctor had authorized the snowmobile trip and his supervisor had approved his use of the patrol car. Monegan said Alaska’s attorney general later called him to inquire about Wooten, and Monegan told him they shouldn’t be discussing the subject.
“This was an issue that apparently wasn’t going to go away, that there were certainly frustrations,” Monegan said. “To say that (Sarah Palin) was focused on this I think would be accurate.”

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 7:54 am 7:54 am

This is laughable, because for days she has been forcing the issue of Ayers being a “close” friend of Obamas and QUESTIONING Obama on that. Now she is just getting back what she dished up. She abused her power. Simple. KARMA!!

Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am

Well, governor Palin is a Real Politician after all. Kudos.
Where the report explicitly states that her conduct was unethical, she first sought refuge behind a legalistic defense.
As a governor she breaks no laws for firing anyone she doesn’t like the face, sound, or smell of; as long as she is able to raise the merest semblance of a conflict on policy issues. And a difference of opinion on whether trooper X should or should not be fired is a policy issue, see? So it’s “legal”.
Palin’s real political adroitness shows when she tries to negotiate “it’s legal” into “it’s ethical”.
Where I come from her behaviour would be called called mean-spirited cattiness. But ordinary rules don’t apply to politicians.

Posted by: Golodh | October 11, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

…and it turns out she’s just another neocon politician.

Posted by: Chris | October 11, 2008, 7:56 am 7:56 am

This Governor of moose and deers is practising to be a White House Insider, even to the extent of denying the obvious report of a bi-partisan team. She says that 4 Dems led 8 Reps, how laughable; she can’t even count numbers correctly. I didn’t know she is not only from the State of Alaska, but rather also from SD – State of Denial.
It is a given, this Mayor Newscaster Paylin won’t even get reelected in Alaska. But she is welcome to return as a TV newscaster… Too late, she can’t participate in anymore beauty contest because of her age……

Posted by: morningcalm | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

to the peron who wrote”You guys are out of your mind calling her a crook.She took on big oil in alaska and forced them to give an addtional 1200 for every citizen in alaska.I dont know about you thats pretty good!”
WHERE DOES THE BIG OIL GET THE MONEY FROM?
(GUESS IT IS NOT CHINA)
THAT IS WHY NOW IN NEVADA I AM PAYING THE ADDITIONAL 1200 FOR EACH ALSAKAN? WH

Posted by: RUFUSredFOX | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

I’m not surprise of the double standards the Repubs are doing. They said she done nothing ‘unethical’ yet they keep pressing the attack on Obama for Ayers. Like who are these people to call the kettle black for the truth?
What about the Keating Five? McCain was clear of any charges, yet so was Ayers. Who are we to keep bring up these events that has happened decades ago with no meaning for today. If the Repubs want to talk about ‘ethics’, they have to take the heat as much as they put it out. They can’t expect things to go only one way. Cowards.
Least Obama is talking about the issues Americans want to hear instead of blasting out attack after attack like McCain and Palin are.

Posted by: GWP | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Bottom Line:
By an unanimous vote of 14 to 0 (10 Republicans, 4 Democrats)the Alaskan Legislature finds S. Palin “GUILTY” of COMMITTING AN UNLAWFUL ACT. She’s a CRIMINAL!!She has no credibility when it comes to TRUST,LAW-ABIDING,AND AS A ROLE- MODEL FOR THE OFFICE OF VICE-PRESIDENT.

Posted by: ROC2341 | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Francheska hehe thats like something from My Name Is Earl.
She ignored Karma and Karma kicked her a**.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Paul L
read the freakin report
the investigator looked into it and said those threats were convenient and didn’t believe them
and he gives very good reasoning why.
ignorance and a match can burn down a house.

Posted by: dl | October 11, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am

Lets have a big shout out to all those hockey moms and Joe six-pack—there were ethics violations as well as the violation of the trust of the America people

Posted by: Tasha | October 11, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

The report cleared Palin of any wrong doing in the firing of Monegan
————————-
Terri,
Sorry, you are wrong. The investigation also indicated that Sarah Palin was also involved. (Though her husband much more so)
McCain campaign released a statement clearing Palin of all wrong doing. They cleared themselves. But that means nothing considering the source.
The findings were released last night and found Palin guilty of ethics violations.
And what is an UN-ELECTED person doing using the office of the Governor anyway? Who the hell is Todd Palin to think he can do that? Sarah Palin knew this was going on and she obviously thought it was ok.
BAD JUDGMENT! And it shows she’s just like every other politician she points fingers at.
The Pubs have a weak candidate and a weaker VP choice. Both have shown exteremely poor judgment and they are in no way “reformers”.
Palin says in her speeches now that this election is about trust.
Well, we certainly can’t trust someone who will let her husband run her office.

Posted by: She loses the "trust" arguement | October 11, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

If this is the worse you libs can get on Palin, you’re laughable. More waste of taxpayer’s money, and again, for nothing. Good job.

Posted by: Bogey | October 11, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

Lets give a shout out to obamas wife who hates white people.
How quaint – A racist first lady…
You won’t find this in the drive by media, so pass it on.This is one of the reason you have not seen much of Michelle Obama, they are trying to keep her hidden till after the Election.
According to Snopes.com, Princeton was requested to put a ‘restriction’ on distribution of any copies of the thesis of Michelle Obama (a/k/a/ Michelle laVaughn Robinson) saying it could not be made avai lable until November 5, 2008 but when it was published on a political website they decided they would lift the restriction.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp
Subj: Thesis – Michele Obama aka Michelle LaVaughn Robinson
OBAMA’S MILITANT RACISM REVEALED
In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on ‘crime and hatred’.
Moreover, she stated that whites in America were ‘ineradicably racist’. The 1985 thesis, titled ‘Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community’ was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.
Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to ‘Whites at Princeton , it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first…’ However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, ‘If those ‘Whites at Princeton ‘ really saw Michelle as one who always would ‘be Black first,’ it seems that she gave them that impression’.
Most alarming is Michele Obama’s use of the terms ‘separationist’ and ‘integrationist’ when describing the views of black people.
Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a ‘separationist’ view of race.
‘By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolutionas opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.’
Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her ‘further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant.’
Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.
Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

I feel sorry for Trooper Wooten.
So many people have taken as fact all of the accusations (tasers, drinking on the job, threatening to kill someone … even killing a moose!!!).
With all the lies coming out of Sarah Palin, why should we believe any of this stuff?
This poor guy has never had the opportunity to defend himself publicly – in fact he has declined to comment.
He’s probably dead scared of losing visitation rights for his children. With his ex-sister-in-law running the show up there, he’s probably right to keep quiet.
How many of us have gone through messy divorces in which the actions of the other party have seemed horrible to us at the time? Time heals most of the wounds and, with hindsight, we come to realize things weren’t really all that bad.
But in this case it seems Tod Palin (and maybe Sarah) has a real obsession and can’t turn the page.

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 8:04 am 8:04 am

I’m sick of liberal smear tactics when you’re guilt of something, point the finger at your opposition and create a distraction.
This issue with Sarah Palin is sucking a lot of attention away from the guilt in the democratic party for the real cause for your financial crisis.
Begining with Carter and implemented by Clinton the mortgage business went haywire when they wanted housing to be available to everyone whether they could afford it or not. Creative loans were developed to achieve this goal. Zero down, arms etc. What they ignored was when greety speculators hopped on this bandwagon and inflated the balloon. Years ago, members of the Democratic congress squelched efforts by the Republican party to put curbs on it.
Now the balloon has burst and now those same Democrats are pointing the finger at everyone they can in the Republican Party.
If you want your life run by the Government and you can’t find a job outside the Government, vote for Obama. Of course the people paying the Government payroll are the few of you left working outside the Government. Guess how you will pay for it? Maybe you don’t care but you will.

Posted by: Barney | October 11, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am

Sarah Palin lies again. When will it stop?

Posted by: mike | October 11, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

What a crock. The investigative team was formed before she was even named the VP and she agreed to coperate completely. If you agree to coperate completely then you also agree with the findings. It wasn’t until she became the VP nominee that she flip flopped. She needn’t worry about bringing that type of behavior to the White House. MAVERICK my A*S. What a hypocrite. She she do the honorable thing (if she know honarable is) and recuse herself for legal reasons and a need to address issue in which she was elected to do. Her nomination by one man does not over ride what the voters of Alaska expect from her. She would know that if she had any type of legal or constitutional training. But what can you expect from a person with a degree in Journalism. She thinks this is a story, and not her own personal issue.

Posted by: SD | October 11, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Good point on Michell obama

Posted by: Racist wife | October 11, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

Thank God, no one will remember Alaska after November 4.

Posted by: Trooper Gate | October 11, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

SARAH PALIN IS GUILTY OF ABUSE OF AUTHORITY BY A BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION – 10 REPUBLICANS AND 4 DEMOCRATS – THE VERDICT IS IN- SHE LIED !!!!!
The Networks and the McCain Campaign is lying again by saying this was a Partisan decision by the democrats. Just because you are an at-will(can fire for no reason) employee does not mean you can abuse your authority for personal vendettas. They need to fess up and grow up and take responsibility for their actions. This recent decision can bring further and future charges that could lead to censure and/or impeachment of Governor Palin. She is guilty of Abusing her authority as a trusted Government official and she based her qualifications for Vice President and for being a heartbeat away from the Presidency on her experience. She has lied about the reasons for firing the commissioner on several occasions. She personally defamed his character and libelously attacked his creditability without regard to the effect on him and his family for pure political gain and basically projecting herself as a moral Christian with nothing to hide. She initially said that he went on a trip unauthorized until ABC produced the document that said otherwise. Her constituents were not in agreement with her intimidating and threatening tactics, but carried them out for fear of their jobs. She had her husband run meetings and help in this attack even though he is not authorized and she overstepped her authority. She gave him permission to be her strong arm and he is clearly connected to and was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party created by Joe Vogler who was a radical Anti-American terrorist and she tried to appoint one of the radical terrorist, John Stein, to head City Council but it was rejected by the people. She used intimidation, manipulation and domination to run her position and that is illegal.
She has no creditability. She has no integrity. You cannot believe anything that she says.
It is blatantly clear that she is not qualified for Vice President, or President and now that
this decision has been confirmed and brought out, it is clear she is not even qualified for Governor either. I am also glad that they are looking into her paying herself taxpayer money for daily per diems including weekends to stay at home. The majority of the people I know work in a different city than where they live, however, they do not get per diems. She took thousands of taxpayers dollars. This is not a woman you want elected and she does not represent true Christianity.

Posted by: Woman for Truth | October 11, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

To Annie,
How naive ang gullible of you!!! Do you honestly believe that an Alaskan State panel appointed by Governor Moose will be impartial? They will be scared for their jobs if they find otherwise for Ms. Newscaster. They themselves will get fired. This is the sole reason why this Putin wants her own board, so they can decide at her own becking, and then fire any or all of them if they rule against her.
In essence, Gov. Putin is calling these 10 Rep. Senators mindless morons because according to her they were misguided by 4 Dem. Senators!!! If she can’t even count that 10 is more than 4, and all 14 of them voted she abused her power, then lo and behold, she can shoot you, too, while hunting!!! This is very laughable. Don’t get on my way, or “I will fire you.” You betcha you!!!!

Posted by: Morningcalm | October 11, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Curious George: Thank you for your posting. More proof that the Obamas’ are two peas in a pod, made for each other based on their identical ideals. Now, why won’t Obama release HIS thesis? I guess it’s obvious.

Posted by: Bogey | October 11, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

Todd Palin was apart of this Alaskan Independence Party up until 2008. Sarah Palin recorded a video showing Todd being apart of this group this year. During the 1970s, Vogler founded the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) and Alaskans For Independence. He also claimed to have organized the meeting which led to the formation of the Libertarian Party in Alaska. The AIP and AFI, as Vogler explained, were intended to function as strictly separate entities — AIP primarily to explore whether the 1956 vote by Alaskans authorizing statehood was legal, and AFI primarily to actively pursue secession for Alaska from the United States.
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
Todd Palin first registered to vote in 1989. From 1995 to 2002 he was registered to vote as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.[11] In late August 2008, The Politico reported that Palin was registered to vote as an independent (“undeclared”), and had never registered as a Republican.[12]

Posted by: Change Agent | October 11, 2008, 8:07 am 8:07 am

So she was perfectly within her authority to fire the man, regardless of circumstance or reason. But she did not restrain her husband, and that was unethical?
Read some history, people. Start with the Magna Carta and what was taken from that as we founded this nation. We do NOT hold folks responsible under law IN THIS COUNTRY for the actions of others. This is fundamental in our law. I’m a little surprise that so many, on the panel, writing about the findings that have not yet been released, and commenting on boards like this, seem to be ignorant of this little fact.
This is a non-story except for those looking to find something to be rabid about.

Posted by: Carrie | October 11, 2008, 8:08 am 8:08 am

Incredible, simply incredible that Alaska voters (regardless party affiliation) should tolerate this clearly $100,000 partisan attack paid for by taxpayers, which was quite clear to any rationale mind “pay back” for the courageous changes Palin made on behalf of all Alaskans. Bottom line, this brave woman has done more good for Alaska than any man in history…period.

Posted by: Daren Jack | October 11, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

The trooper still has his job!
What “power” has been exerted?
It was appropriate for everyone to question directly the troopers fitness to uphold the law.
Congress and the Bush administration have done the most unethical things as we see now, yet a senator is going to win the white house with great support.

Posted by: Joe | October 11, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

McCain Poor Decision making….
[The Keating 5]
[G.Gordon Liddy]
His Campaign Mgr. Lobbyist for [Fannie and Freddie Mac]
Selecting sarah Palin, without having her Clearly Vetted.
McCain’s Wife Cindy, who still did Big Business with Keating after the Keating 5 Savings & Loan Scheme that Cost the US Tax Payers Billions.
McCain sat on a Board of Racist and Anti-Semetites for YEARS
And this Country will be in Big Debt for some Time and this happened under a Republican, Predominantly White Male & Female Republican & Democratic Senate, Congress and Republican President, who EXPANDED BIG GOVERNMENT…
OPPOSED TO MAKING BIG GOVERNEMNT SMALLER, AS HAD BEEN PROMISED BY BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, ANNE COULTER, GLENN BECK AND OTHER SO CALLED [CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS]…..
Obama is Clearly not the one who is Responsible for this Universally Bunked Economy….
But John McCain & Joe Biden has their hand prints all over this Bottomed out Economy, Not Barack Obama…
Don’t Blame Obama
Sorry All You Low Life Obama Haters…
Look at what Your established Seantors, Congressmen and Women have done to this Society….
Its not Obama’s Fault

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

NOTHING AN ETHICAL? THERE YOU GO AGAIN PALIN!!!! WHY DON’T FOR THE FIRST TIME BE TRUE TO YOURSELF AND TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY ABUSED YOUR POWER BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR SISTER AND YOU WANT HER EX-HUSBAND OUT OF HIS JOB. FOR ONCE PLEASE BE TRUTHFUL. AYYAYAYYYYY!!!!

Posted by: McNoShame | October 11, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

Obama and his cronies in Alaska are smearing Palin. In addition, any Republicans who allowed this to happen are just mad at Palin for taking them on, being the maverick that she is. Nevertheless, the report found no illegal activity on the part of Gov. Palin and said as governor she has the right to fire whoever she wishes. Now I call on the pro-Obama media to really investigate in great detail Obama’s associations with convicted felon Rezko, anti-White, anti-American Rev. Wright; unrepentant US terrorist Bill Ayers, and anti-Semetic, anti-White, anti-American Louis Farrakan. Also let the public know the truth about ACORN (who Obama gave $800,000 to and who submitted to the democratic Secretary (Brunner) bogus voter forms in favor of Obama. Investigate Obama’s (and Acorn’s) trying to steal the election from McCain in all the swing and battleground states with the use of bogus ACORN voter forms. Stop the fraud now pro-Obama media!!!

Posted by: Doreen | October 11, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Next Stop for Palin after Nov 4 will be in an Alaskan court. Thank God, it won’t be in DC where serious an smart folks will be discussing the fix of the economy.

Posted by: Trooper Gate | October 11, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCain/Sarah 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Hillary’s supporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now am so sorry I gave donation to democrates!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Maca | October 11, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Can’t wait for the Spin on this one.
No doubt, Pubs will try to make this about the trooper and not about abuse of power. (Though the report indicates the trooper was never a threat)
Watching the Pubs spin their stories is like watching “Days of Our Lives” – you have to suspend all sense of reality to make anything they say believable.

Posted by: Like Sands Through the Hourglass | October 11, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCain/Sarah 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Hillary’s supporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now am so sorry I gave donation to democrates!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Maca | October 11, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Palin has the right to fire people but actually she wanted to transfer Monegan to a different position. He refused. Sarah launched the investigation into herself and then when she was running for VP, another investigation was begun by the state legislature of Alaska. In the meanwhile, the Personnel department is enquiring into the matter and this is where the matter should be dealt with initially at least! The enquiry concludes that firing Monegan was lawful and there were legitimate reasons to do so and it concludes speculatively that Monegan not firing Wooten was a contributing factor. Another conclusion by the report is that there was pressure to fire Wooten. Monegan did not fire him. Concerns about Wooten were numerous and serious they include him being drunk on duty (which involves driving), taisering a child and death threats against Palin’s father. Perhaps Monegan was lax by not doing more? Is it right that somebody can transgress rules and laws because they are divorcing your sister and you are frozen from doing anything? It may seem vindictive to do what at any other time would be the right thing? Yhere were reasons to transfer Monegan beyond Trooper Wooten. If this is all a toothcomb on SP can come up with, she passes the third degree WELL.

Posted by: ushi | October 11, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

It seems that her husband was a little TOO involved in her work as GOV. I am sure that Gov Palin could have handled her job without his involvement, she was elected to that post, not him. I am sure that the people of Alaska did not elect her just so that they would get a “shadow” GOV in her husband. Is this the kind of VP we could expect if she and McCain do manage to get elected? We have already had such shady dealings with Cheney for the last eight years.

Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

I love the way Gov. Palin is such a threat to all you libs. She’s the most honest, straight-shootin’ person to set foot in Washington in a long, long time … maybe ever. And this scares the hell out of you, doesn’t it? It’s so laughable — the potential future Vice President has much more experience than the potential President. I can see why you’re scared. I would be, too, but thank my lucky stars, I’m no lib. Thank you, God.

Posted by: Bogey | October 11, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

Here’s an article, written by Robert F, Kennedy Jr on Sarah Palin and her links with the separatist Alaskan Independence Party, which appeared in the Huffington Post:
“In 2004, America’s malleable mainstream media allowed itself to be manipulated by artful Republican operatives into devoting weeks of broadcast attention and drums of ink to unfairly desecrating John Kerry’s genuine Vietnam heroics while obligingly muzzling serious discussion of George W. Bush’s shameful wartime record of evasion and cowardice.
Last week found the American media once again boarding Republican swift boats against this season’s Democratic candidate armed with unfair and hypocritical attacks artfully designed by GOP strategists to distract attention from the cataclysmic outcomes of Republican governance. Vice Presidential hopeful Sarah Palin has taken to faulting Senator Barack Obama for his casual acquaintance with a respected Illinois educator Bill Ayers, who forty years ago was a member of the Weathermen, a movement active when Obama was eight and which he has denounced as “detestable.” Palin argues that the relationship proves that Obama sees “America as being so imperfect that he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”
The Times dedicated a page one article to Obama’s relations with Ayers and CNN’s Anderson Cooper obliged Palin by rewarding her reckless accusations about Obama’s patriotism with a major investigative report. Fox, meanwhile, is still riveting its audience with wall to wall coverage of this pressing irrelevancy.
But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America’s perfection that she continues to “pal around” with a man–her husband, actually–who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska’s rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America’s land base–an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.
AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.” It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?”

Posted by: AtlantaDem | October 11, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Sarah Palin is a liar. She lied repeatedly when claiming no one had pressured Walter Monegan to fire Palin’s brother-in-law. Todd Palin is a liar. He lied when he said (during a television interview) that he had only had one conversation about Wooten.
Sarah and Todd Palin are tax cheats. They owe tens of thousands of dollars in back taxes because they didn’t report her per diems or the ‘travel’ expenses she received for her husband and children.
Sarah Palin kicked off her state political career in the home of convicted felon Bill Allen.
Liars. Tax cheats. Felons.
Is anyone still happy with the McCain VP vetting process???

Posted by: Jackie | October 11, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Palin graduated from high school with a 2.2 GPA. Her SATs show that between 61 and 69 percent of the Amercian public are smarter than she is…she is not a person that I want running anything, must less MY country.
Columbia University, Harvard Law School, editor of the Harvard Law review, that’s the person I deserve.

Posted by: rukiding | October 11, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

This seems like a communist party to me and all those Obama supporters who posted comments here are exactly what is stated in this article. Pretty scary.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/the_coming_obama_thugocracy

Posted by: Jackie | October 11, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Sarah Palin couldn’t even spell the word ‘ethical’ let alone know what it means.

Posted by: PhilBgood | October 11, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

McCain was scolded by the senate ethics committe for “bad judgement”
Now Palin is hit with “unlawful abuse of power”.
McCorruption 08

Posted by: hank | October 11, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

JOE,
It’s not about the trooper. Get over that line of reasoning.
If you can read, the scandal centered around Palin’s firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

Posted by: You still Don't Get It? | October 11, 2008, 8:15 am 8:15 am

” I question the patriotism of both Sarah and Todd Palin. It’s no secret that Alaskan’s have no respect for those of us who live in the ‘lower 48‘. But the part that really troubles me is the association and membership that both Sarah and Todd have in the Alaska Independent Party which calls for Alaska to secede from the United States.
AIP founder, Joe Vogler has made the following comments regarding seceding and the United States in general: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” and “I won’t be buried under their damn flag,”
Sarah and Todd Palin have never repudiated or distanced themselves from those statements.

Posted by: Drew Hoffman | October 11, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

“If you want to see what type of VP Palin will be look at Cheney.”
indy_voter,
This is most unfair to Mr. Cheney. Whatever else you can say about him, Cheney is smart. Palin is stupid.
You’re right about everything else, though!

Posted by: Kate | October 11, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

The firing of Monegan was NOT the main issue. Having her husband use state offices and state resources while he persued a family vendetta IS the issue.
You people who are defending her: She is a LIAR. The Alaskan State Constitution prohibits the very type of behavior that Todd himself admitted to! Todd admitted having meetings with state officials in Sarah’s office. Todd is NOT an elected official!! THAT is the problem, not the firing of Monegan.
PERIOD.
This woman is SO clueless. She has no concept of ethics at all and that’s why she simply CANNOT be elected.
I would like to hear a psychologist weigh in on what type of personality disorder she is afflicted with… I would say “narcissism” if I had to guess.
She simply cannot admit she made a mistake.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:17 am 8:17 am

Look, obviously….how can you take anyone seriously who ‘clears’ themselves in a report?
“Palin Pre-empts State Report, Clears Self in Trooper Probe”
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/palin-pre-empts-state-report-clears-self-trooper-probe/
Palin is about as trustworthy as the former Iraqi Information Minister, maybe you remember him?: “We have them surrounded in their tanks”. Actually, I would trust that guy over Palin.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

She tells alaskans nothing happened, then admits it did when a tape surfaces, says she didnt know, now the report find her husband was making calls from her office (she made em too).
Sarah Palin, world class liar.

Posted by: constance | October 11, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

I love the way Gov. Palin is such a threat to all you libs. She’s the most honest, straight-shootin’ person to set foot in Washington in a long, long time … maybe ever.
——————-
Self delusion IS a powerful thing isn’t it?
Seriously, you guys amaze me. At this point you’re still buying all the hype from the RNC convention?
What has Palin shown other than an ability to read sarcastic speeches?
That would be- nothing.

Posted by: Whatever | October 11, 2008, 8:18 am 8:18 am

Love the way liars assume everyone else is a liar.

Posted by: Elliott | October 11, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Nothing unlawful or unethical??? Oh Boy, just wait till this family gets near the WH! You can betcha that first dude will run the show, and if you thought Cheney is DANGEROUS, just wait till the Palins get to town. If you thought that the Bush/Cheney team has, under cover of “security”, broke a lot of laws, just wait till you get the Palins in there. OMG, when did a “first dude” get that kind of power anywhere??? Everyone ought to take a good and clear look at this pair of “secessionists” (of Alaska from the United States), and think of where you will really be if people are FOOLISH enough to support them. You must never allow people like the Palins to enter national politics even if Alaskans are foolish enough to be led by their noses to a separate “country” by the Palins.

Posted by: Karen | October 11, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Yeah Palin scares me because she allows people in her crowds to shout “terrorist” “treason” and “kill him” at her rallies and says nothing to quell the outburst. At least McCain has tried to stop some of this stuff before it gets out of hand. Can you imagine if Obama was allowing people to say such things about her or her family? That man has two young daughters. The problem is that SHE KNOWS BETTER. She is showing the true ignorance that is still alive in this country. Then she comes off as Miss Goody-Two Shoes Joe Six Pack Hockey Pitbull and she is justlike any other politician…just trying to get elected.

Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 8:19 am 8:19 am

3 more weeks before the only news she will make will be in an Alaskan courtroom.

Posted by: Trooper Gate | October 11, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Let me get this straight – out of one side of her mouth she says that this is a “partisan” report, and presumably therefore it’s findings cannot be trusted – and out of the other side of her mouth she claims the mantle of innocence, declaring that the report vindicates her because it found that she broke no laws!
This woman isn’t fit to govern! Another McCain insult to the intelligence of Americans. What a disgrace!

Posted by: Rodger | October 11, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McCain/Sarah 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Hillary’s supporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now am so sorry I gave donation to democrates!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Maca—————Yea Right. You must think everyone is dumb.
Doesnt work anymore.

Posted by: CW | October 11, 2008, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Bogey-to be honest it looks like the Dems will get in and all we can say is I told you so. I dont deny that it is an up hill battle for Mccain because of Bush. But to elect a candidate with terriorist ties,a wife and Pastor who hates the government and white people is behind comprehension. He will raise my taxes to pay for the lazy which only makes people lazier when they get hand outs. And all we can say is I told you so, morons.

Posted by: Racist wife | October 11, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Palin + AIP = Treason!

Posted by: Fred | October 11, 2008, 8:22 am 8:22 am

The investigation was started by Sarah Palin and this was going on, well before she’d ever thought she would be selected as McCain’s VP choice….
10 Republicans & 4 Democrats in a Republican State…Please, the Witch is Guilty of Abuse of Power…Simple.
Regarding her “Great Contributions to Alaska”
Ha !!!
Wasilla had a 1 Million Dollar Debt, before palin, after palin’s Mayoralship, the Town incurred a 25 Million Debt !!!
So much for [Executive Experience]
Bridge To Nowhere…Ha !!!
Her Alaskan Gas & Oil Pipeline is a Joke…Because there is’nt any Gas-Oil Pipeline, otherthan…
The Gas & Oil Pipeline currently being Built by [Big Oil]
Palin’s Canadian-Alaskan Gas-Oil Pipeline is a stalemate, the canadian Native Americans will not Allow Canada using it’s Land…
You Palin-Holics need to really get off the Palin Sauce and Research…
She’s a FRAUD, FAKE and LIAR !!!
Her Husband was a Member of the of the [Alaskan Independence Party] 7 Years and is still an Unofficial Member.
He controls Sarah and he’s a [Shadow Governor]

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am

She’s a maverick OK. Taxes, honesty accountability = hating America.

Posted by: baffled | October 11, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Correct. Palin was well withing her rights to dismiss Monegan. Senator Hollis French who spearheaded this political smear campaign is a staunch Obama supporter and Walt Monegan and him are close friends. In fact French had stated that he promised his party
he would do whatever he could to bring down Palin. Senator Hollis French is also known in Alaska as the “phony soldier” for lying about his so-called service record by falsely stating that he was a Marine. As far as the conclusion of this panel, its opinion was based on an assumption by the investigator.

Posted by: Campbell | October 11, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Michelle Obama is a raciest that my friends is a fact. Read her Princeton thesis, but I am sure she got in because of affirmative action. That is a double standard if I ever heard one. But the Dems are ok with voting for a terriorist supporter and his wife that hates the whites.

Posted by: Racist wife | October 11, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

This is for all of the liberal dingbats posting in this thread. While you are here, your village is missing its IDIOT!!
Learn to read, then read something intelligent besides the garbage from the mainstream media. Allowing them to pump you into voting for a person UN-suited for the job, Barack Hussein Obama could NOT even do his job as a SENATOR, let alone POTUS. His associations with pals and preachers and hatemongers make any TRUE American cringe!! Darn!! Why am I wasting my time on you dimwits. You deserve your own fate, but not the rest of us!! Sanyaman

Posted by: Sanyaman | October 11, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

And another thing: DO you really want a vice president who has NO reading comprehension skills? She can’t (or WON’T) even read the document, or she would see in PLAIN text what the ethics problems are.
It’s very straight-forward and cut-and-dried. Any reasonable person can see that.
All of you who hate Obama and his wife, look at like this:
It would be like Obama getting elected and having Michelle hang out in the Oval Office telling United States Cabinet Members that she needs help with some family problems.
Does that not sound wrong? Because it IS!!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:25 am 8:25 am

I’m a moderate-to-liberal independent, but I respect intelligent and thoughtful conservatives. I would love to raise Barry Goldwater from the dead and ask his opinion of McCain and Palin.
I would need to get asbestos ear muffs first.

Posted by: Alex | October 11, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Of course, Republicans never see their acts as unlawful or unethical, even after 8 years of the most corrupt administration in the history of the US.
Face it, Palin is a loser, she only got her position by appealing to the same small time bigots she’s inciting now. McLame should be ashamed of the campaign he is running.
PS – Looks like Ayers has done a lot more for his community in recent years then most of you right-wing nut jobs ever have, get over it!

Posted by: Michael | October 11, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Racist wife
That kind of rhetoric is exactly what McCain was talking about.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

Bogey/Curious George:
Look up ‘Dreams From my Father’ by Barack (Barry) Obama. This will give you insight into how he feels towards “Whitey” as Michelle Obama refers to white people. God help us if Nobama is elected! I hope he raises taxes on the 5% of large corps and those small businesses that make over $250K….there are quite a few. These are the businesses that hire most of us hard working people. When he does, and businesses are forced to lay off workers, then maybe all the idiots that voted for him will realize their mistake.

Posted by: McCainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Sarah Palin 2008 Graduate of the Bush/Cheney/Rove School of Abuse of Power with a minor in Ethics Violations.
America has enough of these students already in power… ENOUGH !!!!

Posted by: nerakami | October 11, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

A fraud is someone who hides behing a lie, OBAMA is the biggest fraud out there. Wont come clean on relationship with Ayers. Sat in the pew with a white hating, government hating pastor. Then when he saw it would bring him down turned his back on his pastor of 20 years. Thats loyalty. Fraud, the real case is his realtionship with Rezko who actually is getting investigated for fraud. Talk about fraud, the Dems Pres candidate is a Fraud.

Posted by: Racist wife | October 11, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Uh…. this doesn’t have anything to do with being liberal or conservative. There are plenty of very prominent, well-educated CONSERVATIVES who think Palin needs to quit and go home.
Quit trying to change the subject away from your uneducated, ethics-abusing Barbie doll.
She ABUSED her POWER while IN STATE OFFICE.
PERIOD.
That is a VERY serious, easy-to-read fact!! Her OWN husband admitted he used her offices to meet with state officials. It doesn’t get any more OBVIOUS than THAT!!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

To be honest, I really like having Sarah Palin around. She has brought out the worst in McCain and ruined any chance he may have had to be elected.
He has been exposed as a hateful, erratic old man who makes hasty decisions he goes on to regret. He’ll do or say anything – including lying and inciting hatred towards a presidential candidate – in order to further his political career.
Don’t feel sorry for John. He and Cindy McSniff will be OK… in their eleven houses.
… and the maverick road off into the sunset – sorry – flew off in his Learjet…

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

Give me a break! We’re in the middle of a financial meltdown and now we’re supposed to focus on the partisan findings of some (wormy) state politicians. Do you really think the investigation was unbiased and above board? Can you be naive enough to think this kind of thing doesn’t routinely go on? It’s just that in her case it suits someone’s (wormy) political purpose to bring it to light now – close to the election. I say trash the report and focus on our economic problems!

Posted by: realitycheckplease | October 11, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

McCainpres08
I read ‘Dreams From my Father.’ If you ever did, you would find that there is nothing remotely racist in it.

Posted by: jock59801 | October 11, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Todd & Sarah Palin’s America is an America MINUS Alaskans an all those Natural Resources, [Oil, Gas & Gold]….
The Former AIP Leader, makes Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers look Angelic !!
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AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.” It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?”

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

I am an American. Served in the USAF. Love this country and I am voting for Obama/Biden. Does anyone think the next President will have an easy job? The next President will be handed two wars, high unemployment, a broken economy and a damaged reputation around the world. Is Palin with her smart alleck mouth and McCain with his old war stories the answer we need? McCain ran a good campaign in 2000, but, that was then…this is now. The world has changed. We need people who think out problems and not just have a trigger pull reaction to them. I want to be assured that the President is not off being MAVERICKY and getting us involved in more wars. I have had enough maverickness with Bush/Cheney…two more mavericks doing mavericky things is to much for me. ;-)

Posted by: Francheska | October 11, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Mccainpres08 you hit the nail on the head. Yes, he will raise my taxes by 3% to be honest it wont hurt me. It is exactly what you pointed out. Small businesses and the middle class will be destroyed because they will not be able to hire anyone. Me, I will be fine but the Dems just dont get it. The lazy will gt lazier an welfare reciepents will grow and sit on there tail like they do now.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

The presidential campaign ends on Nov 4 with Palin returning to Alaska in defeat just to be greeted at the airport by a judge. Troopergate part 2.

Posted by: Trooper Gate | October 11, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

Francheska I serve my country every day. I pay taxes and care for the poor. I love this country as much as the next person. I dont want to vote for someone who has ties with someone who BOMBED THE CAPITOL OF THIS COUNTRY OR THE PENTAGON. I guess you dont love it that much to vote for someone who has ties with those who hate it. GET A GRIP

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

Boo hoo hoo. Palin got a scumbag fired who happened to be an ex brother-in-law. If that’s the most they can get on her, and by God you know they’ve tried, I would say she’s a true hero. You Dems jumped on that like flies on honey like it was a big deal. It’s the ONLY deal and in reality, not all that big. Now let’s go look at your guy. What about the secret meeting with the muslim faith group in September???
Here it is if you’re curious:
http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525564.aspx

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:36 am 8:36 am

OK Ok, now that the three ring circus is over and we know what the Obama campaign findings would be since it was democratic Obama supporters sitting on the panel. Let’s get a REAL panel in there, people who have nothing to gain by their findings.I’ll bet it would have a different outcome.
The Obama campaign has had an army of lawyers in Alaska since the day after Sarah Palin was announced. This is all they have on her and it’s simply suppose to distract people from Obama’s stones around his neck. His terrorist and criminal friends, his inexperience, his part in the Fannie Mae financial crisis with the 2nd highest donations given in the least amount of time, his endorsements by terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah, and his involvement in ACORN.
I don’t hear anything about Biden and the lawsuit against his son and his brother for defrauding millions from investors.
Let’s keep our eye on the ball people, McCain and Obama are running for president.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Some of you people are SO clueless.
Sarah “launched” a separate investigation that has nothing to do with the report that came out yesterday.
The ORIGINAL investigation was authorized by a Legislative Council made up of
TEN (10) Republicans
FOUR (4) Democrats
The Council unanimously voted to investigate her ethics problems, only three weeks after she fired Monegan. For those of you who don’t know what “unanimous” means, it means that all 10 Republicans and all 4 Democrats voted to investigate her.
THAT is the report we are seeing now… NOT Sarah’s “own” investigation. How ethical is it to “investigate” yourself??? She can FIRE the people she ordered to “investigate” her, what does THAT tell you??
It never ceases to amaze me how people will make up their minds based on lies and rumors. You people need to do your research before you come here acting like you know what you are talking about!

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Yeah.. R=10,D=4.. II guess, if they had voted the other way, it would appear partisan.. but she accusing her own party with being “unfairly against her” To me, this sounds MORE like it was bi-partisan if anything.

Posted by: jrc903 | October 11, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Francheska
Well said.
We don’t need a maverick at the nuclear switch or ready to start up a few more wars and reinstate the draft.
We need a cool head.

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

A little more from Michelle OBAMA,she is just not right.
Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and omi nous in meaning:
‘There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black
community first and foremost.’
What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she’s first lady that will elevate black over white in America ?
The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.
‘Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments.’

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

All the people who keep harping on Rezco, Ayers, and Wright are just too cowardly to come out and say “I’m a racist, there is not way I’d vote for a black” I know this because the allegations are all BS, and none of you have a single good thing to say about the two pathetic losers you are supporting.

Posted by: Bill | October 11, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

Bill you are a moron. Nice try playing the race card. That is worn out and old. Incompetence is not racist.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

So many of you pro McCain / Palin folks just don’t want to see the truth here.
Don’t confuse me with the facts… I wouldn’t understand them anyway.
…. hmmmm

Posted by: Paul L | October 11, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

S Adams, you are one of THE most clueless. The investigation of Sarah was started in JULY, WAY before McCain ever picked her.
Obama has NOTHING to do with the investigation, nor do his lawyers have anything to do with it. NOTHING. That is FACT!! DO your homework instead of stubbornly clinging to LIES.
The only lawyers who were getting in the way and trying to interfere were McCain’s lawyers.
McCain was an idiot for picking this woman. Nobody in their right mind would pick a running mate who was in the middle of a CURRENT ethics investigation.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Todd & Sarah Palin’s America is an America MINUS Alaskans an all those Natural Resources, [Oil, Gas & Gold]….
The Former AIP Leader, makes Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers look Angelic !!
—————–
AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.”
It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler….
“I’m an Alaskan, Not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website,
“I’ve got no use for America or her Damned Institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States.
Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an Independent Nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.
The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that….
“The Fires of Hell are Frozen Glaciers compared to MY HATRED for the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.”
He cursed the Stars and Stripes, Promising…
“I won’t be buried under their DAMNED FLAG …
When Alaska is an Independent Nation they can bring my bones home.”
Sara Palin has not DENOUNCED Vogler or his Detestable [Anti-Americanism].
Todd Palin: Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from [1995 to 2002]
Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.”
While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.
The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s [2000 Convention].
She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s [2006 Convention] and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s [2008 Convention].
In other words, this is not something that happened when she was [Eight]!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska.
In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?”
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The investigation was started by Sarah Palin and this was going on, well before she’d ever thought she would be selected as McCain’s VP choice….
10 Republicans & 4 Democrats in a Republican State…Please, the Witch is Guilty of Abuse of Power…Simple.
Regarding her “Great Contributions to Alaska”
Ha !!!
Wasilla had a 1 Million Dollar Debt, before palin, after palin’s Mayoralship, the Town incurred a 25 Million Debt !!!
So much for [Executive Experience]
Bridge To Nowhere…Ha !!!
Her Alaskan Gas & Oil Pipeline is a Joke…Because there is’nt any Gas-Oil Pipeline, otherthan…
The Gas & Oil Pipeline currently being Built by [Big Oil]
Palin’s Canadian-Alaskan Gas-Oil Pipeline is a stalemate, the canadian Native Americans will not Allow Canada using it’s Land…
You Palin-Holics need to really get off the Palin Sauce and Research…
She’s a FRAUD, FAKE and LIAR !!!
Her Husband was a Member of the of the [Alaskan Independence Party] 7 Years and is still an Unofficial Member.
He controls Sarah and he’s a [Shadow Governor]
——————–
McCain Poor Decision making….
[The Keating 5]
[G.Gordon Liddy]
His Campaign Mgr. Lobbyist for [Fannie and Freddie Mac]
Selecting sarah Palin, without having her Clearly Vetted.
McCain’s Wife Cindy, who still did Big Business with Keating after the Keating 5 Savings & Loan Scheme that Cost the US Tax Payers Billions.
McCain sat on a Board of Racist and Anti-Semetites for YEARS
And this Country will be in Big Debt for some Time and this happened under a Republican, Predominantly White Male & Female Republican & Democratic Senate, Congress and Republican President, who EXPANDED BIG GOVERNMENT…
OPPOSED TO MAKING BIG GOVERNEMNT SMALLER, AS HAD BEEN PROMISED BY BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, RUSH LIMBAUGH, SEAN HANNITY, ANNE COULTER, GLENN BECK AND OTHER SO CALLED [CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS]…..
Obama is Clearly not the one who is Responsible for this Universally Bunked Economy….
But John McCain & Joe Biden has their hand prints all over this Bottomed out Economy, Not Barack Obama…
Don’t Blame Obama
Sorry All You Low Life Obama Haters…
Look at what Your established Seantors, Congressmen and Women have done to this Society….
Its not Obama’s Fault
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(CBS/AP) Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain’s Republican ticket.
Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report for a bipartisan panel that investigated the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.
The report said Palin played an active role in a vendetta against the trooper, Michael Wooten, involved in a bitter divorce and custody battle with the governor’s sister.
Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, which states, “…each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”
The inquiry also looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire Wooten. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.
The investigation revealed that Palin’s husband, Todd, who is not a state employee, has extraordinary access to the governor’s office and her closest advisers. The report said that he used that access to try to get trooper Wooten fired, and that there is evidence the governor herself participated in the effort.
The report found that Palin let the family grudge influence her decision-making even if it was not the sole reason Monegan was dismissed.
“I feel vindicated,” Monegan said. “It sounds like they’ve validated my belief and opinions. And that tells me I’m not totally out in left field.”
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Read “Troopergate” Report Findings
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Branchflower also said that the Attorney General’s office failed to “substantially comply” with his request for e-mails related to the case. After a delay in locating more than 200 e-mails from several employees in Palin’s office, the Attorney General notified investigators that he was asserted privilege over them.
The report criticized Palin, saying in her role as Governor …
“[Palin] knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired. She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to cease contacting subordinates, but she failed to act.
“Such impermissible and repeated contacts create conflicts of interest for subordinate employees who must choose to either please a superior or run the risk of facing that superior’s displeasure and the possible consequences of such displeasure. This was one of the very reasons the Ethics Act was promulgated by the Legislature.”
As the reports underscores, “Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional.”
Among the reasons Palin has stated as why she sought the termination of Wooten was because of alleged threats made to her extended family. However, the report questions the validity of that excuse, for several reasons:
“Governor Palin has stated publicly that she and her family feared Trooper Wooten. Yet the evidence presented has been inconsistent with such claims of fear. The testimony from Trooper Wheeler, who was part of her security detail from the start, was that shortly after [being] elected to office, she ordered a substantial reduction in manpower to her personal protection detail in both Anchorage and Juneau, an act that is inconsistent with a desire to avoid harm from Trooper Wooten or others. Moreover, assuming that Trooper Wooten was ever inclined to attack Governor Palin or a family member, logic dictates that getting him fired would accomplish nothing to eliminate the potential harm to her or her family. On the contrary, it might just precipitate some retaliatory conduct on his part. Causing Wooten to loose his job would not have de-escalated the situation, or provided her or her family with greater security. …
“I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons.”
Branchflower wrote that an interview with Palin (who refused to provide testimony to the investigation, after having first agreed to participate) “would have assisted everyone to better understand her motives,” and explain why she allowed the pressure to fire Wooten continue unabated for several months, even after knowing the trooper had already been disciplined and that his casebook was closed.
The report said that Palin had the constitutional authority to hire and fire executive branch department heads. Branchflower said that Monegan’s refusal to fire Wooten was “likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety,” but that it was not the sole reason.
As reason for terminating Monegan, Palin offered what she termed his “rogue mentality,” an example of which was his work with a Republican state legislator to seek funding for a program that she had previously vetoed.
Monegan, a former Anchorage police chief who was hired by Palin shortly after she took office, testified that he received repeated communications against Trooper Wooten’s employment.
In one case in August 2007, the governor had found out that Wooten was to work “light duty” at the state fair – in costume as “Safety Bear.” Despite the fact that Wooten would be unrecognizable in the mascot’s outfit, Monegan received a call from Kris Perry, director of the Governor’s Anchorage office, saying they had learned Wooten would attend at the same time that Palin was to put in an appearance. Monegan then suggested to Wooten’s supervisor that he not attend, suggesting the bear costume might restrict his vision or ability to move.
When asked if the reason Monegan had Wooten switched off the state fair duty was over concern for the trooper’s health (because of the confining suit) or some other reason, Monegan replied that he was more worried about his own health.
“Your employment health?” the investigator asked.
“Yes,” Monegan said.
The report notes that the governor “lost confidence” in Monegan when, on the eve of this year’s annual Police Memorial Day ceremony in May, he forwarded her a poster of a trooper holding a flag for her to sign and present at the event, not realizing that the photograph was of Trooper Wooten. Palin cancelled her appearance at the event.
Palin and McCain’s supporters had hoped the inquiry’s finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain’s running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama.
Several Republican state legislators went to court last week to try to block the release of the legislative council report, and appealed to the state Supreme Court when their request was denied. The high court affirmed on Thursday that the courts should not block the report.
Trying to head off the potentially damaging report, McCain campaign officials released their own report Thursday that stated Palin was clear of any wrongdoing.
But the panel of lawmakers voted unanimously to release the official report, although not without dissension. There was no immediate vote on whether to endorse its findings.
“I think there are some problems in this report,” said Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. “I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye.”
The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation; lawmakers don’t have the authority to sanction her for such a violation and they gave no indication they would take any action against her.
“It is out of the Legislative Council’s hands. It goes to anyone’s hands who got a copy or clicks the link on the Web,” said Democratic state Senator Kim Elton, the chairman of the committee that released the report. “I can’t tell you how the process ends.”
Under Alaska law, it is up to the state’s Personnel Board, not the Legislature, to pursue the governor’s violations of ethics laws.
The Personnel Board is made up of three members who are appointed by the Governor. One of the board’s members was re-appointed by Palin when she took office; another contributed to her gubernatorial campaign.
If action is approved, the board must refer the matter to the Senate president for disciplinary action. Violations also carry a possible fine of up to $5,000.
An attorney for Palin disagreed with the findings.
“In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain, usually financial. Mr. Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain,” attorney Thomas Van Flein said.
On The Early Show, GOP strategist Ed Rollins said that, with the McCain campaign “sputtering,” the Troopergate revelations are just “one more little thing.”
He focused on the report’s finding that she did not overstep her authority as Governor in firing Monegan. “There’s no evidence she did anything improper in firing the commissioner. She can fire anybody in her cabinet she wants to.”
Democratic strategist Kiki McLean, however, said, “I think most people have probably already settled on their opinion on Sarah Palin about whether they want her to be one heartbeat away.”
A Long-Running Dispute
Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over allegations that he illegally shot a moose, drank beer in a patrol car, and used a Taser on his stepson.
In proceedings revealed by the report, former Alaska State Trooper Col. Julia Grimes told investigators that Sarah Palin called her in late 2005 to discuss why Wooten hadn’t been fired, and Grimes told her the inquiry was confidential by law.
“Her questions were how can a trooper who behaves this way still be working,” Grimes said. “I asked her to please trust me, that because I can’t tell her details I would ask her to please trust me that I would take the appropriate action if and when I knew what the findings were. … I couldn’t have another conversation with her about it because, again, it’s protected by law.”
Grimes said Todd Palin also contacted her by telephone in late 2005 to discuss the confidential investigation of Wooten.
Wooten’s disciplinary case was settled in September 2006 – months before Palin was elected governor – and he was allowed to continue working as a trooper.
After Palin’s election, her new public safety commissioner, Monegan, said he was summoned to the governor’s office to meet Todd Palin, who said Wooten’s punishment had been merely a “slap on the wrist.” Monegan said he understood the Palins wanted Wooten fired. “I had this kind of ominous feeling that I may not be long for this job if I didn’t somehow respond accordingly,” Monegan told the investigator.
For months afterward, Todd Palin filed complaints about Wooten, saying he was seen riding a snowmobile after he had filed a worker’s compensation claim and was seen dropping off his children at school in his patrol car. Monegan said Wooten’s doctor had authorized the snowmobile trip and his supervisor had approved his use of the patrol car. Monegan said Alaska’s attorney general later called him to inquire about Wooten, and Monegan told him they shouldn’t be discussing the subject.
“This was an issue that apparently wasn’t going to go away, that there were certainly frustrations,” Monegan said. “To say that (Sarah Palin) was focused on this I think would be accurate.”

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

I think her position on this is that since she did not know it was WRONG to keep leaning on state employees over this issue, therefore, she did nothing wrong. Knowing what this women is about, I guess can buy that she is that dumb. So, that is the reason but it is not an excuse. How many times have we heard that phase “ignorance is no excuse for the law?”

Posted by: jrc903 | October 11, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Which means your candidate is incompetent, not that we are racist. Clarified.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Lol you republicans who keep mention Ayers, should watch the a**kicking Hannity gets from Rober Gibbs. The video is out on y o u tube.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

She fits right in!
I’ve been working for the government for the past 10 years and I’ve never seen such a childish hen house!
Anyhow, these power struggles go on and on in the house the tax payers built.
That’s what politics is. Childish little games. The politicians the puppets to which the big players pull the strings…
As long as the house plays these foolish little games of payback… we’ll always be in a mess of confusion.
For example, we have one director that didn’t agree with a managers direction. So, he squeezed the manager out by bad mouthing him to his colleagues. A simple little game. But, just a small example of the childish things that goes on.
Someone should be able to sue for defamation of character in this instance. But, would cost the manager thousands of dollars to ever have that heard in court.
All comes back to accountability.
Directors and managers have to be accountable.
Otherwise, the decisions they make that are not in the best interest of the country will end up hurting the common tax payer at the end.
We need some major reform and whistle blowing legislation to help protect those that wish to halt the process in place that may not be in the best interest of the country or is some biased decision of “pay back time”.
Childish games are played.
Usually at the expense of the tax payer.

Posted by: jc | October 11, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Someone from the GOP side will have to carefully explain to me how an elected official who violated ethics law and abused her power is going to ‘reform’ Washington. Sounds like more of the same of the last 8 years.
Unethical behavior speaks to the very core of one’s character. Sarah Palin has character issues. She is willing to do or say anything to further her agenda and is driven by unbridled ambition.
Stop saying that she broke no laws. The report says that she broke the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. That is a law. She broke it. The report gives the exact subsection of the law she broke.
There were two possible laws that she could have broke. The report says that didn’t break a law in firing Monegan, but that she DID break another law in putting improper pressure on him for her own personal purposes. Someone call her on this, please.
She’s the one who needs to read the report.

Posted by: jerryz Burbank,IL | October 11, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Yeah, Palin should left the guy the alone so that he could taser his next victim in the sheer delight that he seems to derive from it. With the guy’s mentality, I wonder what color his next victim might have been? Palin is a hero.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Yes, I am seeing another psychological phenomenon being exhibited here:
DENIAL.
Some of you are in COMPLETE DENIAL about the fact that Sarah was LEGALLY found to have abused her power.
She has a major ethics and judgment problem. MAJOR. This issue has NOTHING to do with Obama. It’s all about Sarah.
For somebody running as an “ethics reformer”, she is about as big a hypocrite as I’ve ever seen.
PERIOD.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

“Which means your candidate is incompetent, not that we are racist. Clarified”
Still can’t say why you like McLame huh?
Guess that one stung you a bit. Obama will probably be the best President we have had in many years, if he can get past the mess your party put us into.
The “race card” was put into play by Mclame, not Obama, and I stand by my comment. I have seen the people at their rallys.

Posted by: Bill | October 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

Curious George:
I wonder how Nobama says he will give 95% of Americans a tax break when only about 65-70% actually pay taxes. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think some sorry SOB that WON’T work deserves any help when I bust my butt to have what I have while they receive a gov’t check and then some more Nobama help.

Posted by: McCainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 8:51 am 8:51 am

So, if Palin got the guy fired because he tasered a little black boy… I wonder if things might be seen a little bit differently here…..??……..

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

This link with very damning photo will vindicate Sarah Palin.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Ay Bendito…! of course not…
….Saraha…Did you put the hands in the cookie jar..? (and Sarah answers with her mouth full of crums)”No sir, you better read the report” hahahaha what a bimbo!

Posted by: jibarorock | October 11, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Ummm….really?
Her response to the results of the bi-partisan investigation that began BEFORE she was picked for the Republican ticket insults our intelligence – once again the McCain/Palin ticket thinks we are stupid.
The hypocrisy is unbelievable. We know little about this woman, and the things we do know are horrifically bad. I do not understand how anyone with any brain activity whatsoever can support Palin.
By obscuring Obama’s position on abortion, not only is she spewing more lies she once again, tries to turn the topic to something other than our greatest crisis: the economy.
McCain/Palin supporters: doesn’t it bother you that they are trying to distract you from what really matters right now? The campaign ANNOUNCES they are trying to distract you – why do you continue to fall for it? We are smarter than this.

Posted by: DeniseFox | October 11, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Funny how Repubs think anyone who does not vote for their idiot candidate is on welfare. I have three kids, both my wife and I work, and I’m voting for Obama. Keep choking on your ignorance though. If you want more of the same after 8 years, bendover I say!

Posted by: Michael | October 11, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

If this is all you can find on Palin is an ethics charge tied to the firing of a scum ball, you are lame! Check out Biden’s illegal activities of the past 3 decades. Morons! This truly demonstrates why the inept democrats should not be in charge of anything!
Obamatax 08!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

The kid who was tasered was the Trooper’s son. The kid was curious about what it felt like to be tasered, so he ASKED his dad to do it. The taser was not on full power, and the incident happened in FRONT of the mother!!
What is WRONG with you people??? You are so easily manipulated you will believe ANYTHING!!
Not to mention, the trooper WAS disciplined for it. He had already paid his dues and had kept his nose clean for over two years. When Sarah got elected, she continued to harass him and try to get him fired. There were NO LEGAL grounds to fire the guy. He had a union contract; you can’t just go firing people for no reason.

Posted by: mavisdarling | October 11, 2008, 8:59 am 8:59 am

FRIEDA: Of course she didn’t break the Law….she is just guilty of “unethical use of power” hahahaha give me a break here…and that’s the kind of judgement you want over our nation if Mr. McCainn dies before his term? what a moron, please!

Posted by: jibarorock | October 11, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Wow barack,, $800,000.00 funneled from your campaign to Acorn through a front group and Acorn currently under investigation for voter registration fraud in 13 states????? Say it aint so Obama, or is it Soetero? Not looking good for you and your cheating corrupt bed buddies.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

I dont think you are on welfare if you vote for Obama I think you want WELFARE!!!

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Michael I am proud of you for working, I do too. We are part of the 65-70% that pay taxes. Would you want someone who CAN work that chooses NOT to work to get the same benefit as you and your wife? I wouldn’t. There was no mention of Obama voters all being on welfare.

Posted by: McCainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am

No, it was his STEPson. So if the kid asks his stepfather to shoot him so he can see what it feels like, his stepfather should do it? WOULD YOU? If you would, maybe you need your head examined. “The incident happened in front of his mother.” What in the hell does that prove?? It couldh have something to do with why she divorced the scumbag, moron. Man, people THINK!!!!

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Since when is wanting a deranged trooper who tazers a 10 year old a bad thing?
Then again, Obama supporters are for denying medical attention to born alive infants.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

reddog0216 – corporations mostly have only whites people working for them and this is why most blacks hate corporations becasue they never hiring any blacks. Even in 2008, most Corporations have many two blacks working for them which is a joke. Yes, I hate corporations and will only work government jobs that have a lot of minority workers. PLease give me a list of black CEO – You can’t becasue there isn’t any! My point!

Posted by: gl | October 11, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

I’ve been voting Republican since Nixon, but I won’t be voting for this Republican ticket.

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Since when is wanting a deranged trooper who tazers a 10 year old fired a bad thing?
Then again, Obama supporters are for denying medical attention to born alive infants.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

“I dont think you are on welfare if you vote for Obama I think you want WELFARE!!!”
Well, maybe, how much do you get a month, Dumbdog?

Posted by: Michael | October 11, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

DR Daneker
Good for you, as if we really give a damn. C-ya wouldnt wanna B-ya

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

BUSTED!!!! This link with very damning photo of the troopergate in the tank for obama investigators, and oversight man, will vindicate Sarah Palin.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

I have a question for anyone who can answer it. If this state trooper did everything Palin said he did, why wasn’t he arrested? Especiallly since he supposedly tasered a 10 year old, and made threats against her father, family, etc.? Were any charges filed? Did Palin know that troopers had a union and couldn’t be fired without hearings, etc.? If she didn’t she should have. But I’m really interested in why this trooper wasn’t arrested for at least child abuse if this incident actually happened (and I’m very skeptical that it did)

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Sarah Palin is a lying racist.

Posted by: bajacalla | October 11, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

reddog0216 – corporations mostly have only whites people working for them and this is why most blacks hate corporations becasue they never hiring any blacks. Even in 2008, most Corporations have many two blacks working for them which is a joke. Yes, I hate corporations and will only work government jobs that have a lot of minority workers. PLease give me a list of black CEO – You can’t becasue there isn’t any! My point!
Posted by: gl | Oct 11, 2008 1:04:47 PM
http://www.blackentrepreneurprofile.com/

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

reddog: stop justifying the unjustifiable…she’s a crook and that’s what she is.
Now, corporations don’t reinvent a country in problems, it’s grassroots movements like the one started by Obama the ones that change a nation for good.
Don’t look overseas for examples also can’t compare Ireland to USA…Ireland fits inside Texas 7 or 8 times.

Posted by: Jibarorock | October 11, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

The ignorance is staggering amongst republicans who brings up Wootens character as some sort of way to rationalize Palins abuse of power.
Wooten may or may not be a scumbag. Thats not the point. But try to explain that to ignorant people. Jeez, no wonder your party is imploding.
Nincompoops!

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation;
Lawmakers don’t have the authority to sanction her for such a violation and they gave no indication they would take any action against her.
“It is out of the Legislative Council’s hands.
It goes to anyone’s hands who got a copy or clicks the link on the Web,” said Democratic state Senator Kim Elton, the chairman of the committee that released the report.
“I can’t tell you how the process ends.”
Under Alaska Law, it is up to the state’s [Personnel Board], not the Legislature, to pursue the ..
Governor’s [Violations of Ethics Laws].
The Personnel Board is made up of three members who are appointed by the Governor.
One of the board’s members was re-appointed by Palin when she took office; another contributed to her gubernatorial campaign.
If action is approved, the board must refer the matter to the [Senate President for Disciplinary Action].
Violations also carry a possible fine of up to $5,000.

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

“I dont think you are on welfare if you vote for Obama I think you want WELFARE!!!”
Well, maybe, how much do you get a month, Dumbdog?
Posted by: Michael | Oct 11, 2008 1:05:24 PM
I am sorry I am one of those that works 60+ hours a week.And I dont feel it is right that someone who chooses to work 25-35 hours a week should get some of my money

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Obama is the racist with his 20 year racist church, and his endorsement by none other than the most infamous racist Louis Farrakhan. Obama is also a Marxist pig.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

ROSE:
Don’t worry hun…you’ll live enough to see this great nation bounce back to greatness in the hands of Barack Obama…

Posted by: jibarorock | October 11, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

oh, i get it now. She did nothing wrong because she is special– meaning, laws and rules don’t apply to her.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21820808/

Posted by: jrc903 | October 11, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Looks like the guy Palin fired will have a nice civil suit against the family.

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Why do Obamanuts cry racism, when it is there candidate and his wife who have the DOCUMENTED record of antipathy towards whites?
OBAMA: I ceased to advertise my mother’s race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.
From Dreams of My Father: I found a solace in nursing a pervasive
sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.
From Dreams of My Father: There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.
From Dreams of My Father: It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.
From Dreams of My Father: I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.
From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
If you need anymore proof, Just ask Obamas “typical white grandmother”

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am

I guess no one can answer my question, and there seems to be a lot of republicans on here who know a lot.
I have a question for anyone who can answer it. If this state trooper did everything Palin said he did, why wasn’t he arrested? Especiallly since he supposedly tasered a 10 year old, and made threats against her father, family, etc.? Were any charges filed? Did Palin know that troopers had a union and couldn’t be fired without hearings, etc.? If she didn’t she should have. But I’m really interested in why this trooper wasn’t arrested for at least child abuse if this incident actually happened (and I’m very skeptical that it did)

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

No mention of the corporate welfare that the Republican Party expouses. Yes, as a taxpayer, I’d rather see my taxes help out poor people and our schools, etc.., then go to line the pockets of Halliburton and Blackwater.

Posted by: Michael | October 11, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am

I guess the Obama drunk ignoramus’s didnt read the report. She was found to be within her legal right firing Monegan. Hello?? Anybody home in Obamaville?

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am

reddog: stop justifying the unjustifiable…she’s a crook and that’s what she is.
Now, corporations don’t reinvent a country in problems, it’s grassroots movements like the one started by Obama the ones that change a nation for good.
Don’t look overseas for examples also can’t compare Ireland to USA…Ireland fits inside Texas 7 or 8 times.
Posted by: Jibarorock | Oct 11, 2008 1:09:51 PM
Think what you wish

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

BUSTED!!!! This link with very damning photo of the troopergate in the tank for obama investigators, and oversight man, will vindicate Sarah Palin.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Appears as if Palin is prepared to easily step into the evasive, illegal and corrupt shoes of VP Cheney. She’ll do well, just deny, claim executive privilege when needed or exemption from the judicial investigations because you are a part of the legislative branch. Meanwhile, incite hatred and diviseness among the populace. I think we’ll see more of this ‘secretive and hidden’ government in a McCain/Palin Administration.

Posted by: Robert Dent | October 11, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Yes she was within her legal rights, but the pressure was not. Not a criminal case, but a great civil case. They stated they were pressuring him to fire the trooper – not allowed to use your office as a personal vendetta machine.

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Wow barack, $800,000.00 funneled from your campaign to Acorn through a front group and Acorn currently under investigation for voter registration fraud in 13 states????? Say it aint so Obama, or is it Soetero? Not looking good for you and your cheating corrupt bed buddies.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Badger – seems no one can answer my question about why the trooper wasn’t arrested since he tasered a 10 year old (allegedly)

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

Just goes to show the American people that Sarah Palin is the RIGHT person to clean up Washington. I would have done the same thing in order to protect the child. If Mr. Wooten would haved tasered a dog, he would have been cited for animal abuse, fined and probably thrown in jail. Just goes to show the the “DEMS” don’t use the right side of the brain.

Posted by: Irma in GA | October 11, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Thanks GOD!!!
The era of irrational conservatism is comming to an end in the beautifull, all mighty America.
It’s the sunrise of a new USA for the good of the whole planet.
Go OBAMA/ BIDDEN 2008!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: jibarorock | October 11, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

DR Daneker said
“Yes she was within her legal rights, but the pressure was not. Not a criminal case, but a great civil case. They stated they were pressuring him to fire the trooper – not allowed to use your office as a personal vendetta machine.”
Excuse me , but there finding is actually a matter of speculation. look at who headed the investigation, and lokk at the man who was supposed to make sure the investigation was fair. COINCIDENTLY they are both Obama supporters, seen in this photo at Obama headquarters
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

WHO IS REAL SEN JOHN MCCAIN?
Here is real Sen John McCain. Our hero and our American dream
Sen John McCain should be rewarded with the Oval Office for all his unparallel work in Vietnam.
Here are the reasons why McCain should be the next president of USA.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/schanberg
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1794
Any of them can be your relation.

Posted by: keny | October 11, 2008, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Mr. Palin in his affadavit admitted to it. Asking that this man be fired for the threats against family, etc. etc.

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

DR Daneker
The trooper ADMITTED to tazering the 10 year old, in his own words said, that the shock would have been equivalent to touching an electrified fence. Why he wasnt arrested doesnt make it justifiable, does it?

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

D.R. Daneker,
Have you ever been involved in a domestic dispute???They usually write a report and move along unless there is some evidience.who was going to areest this trooper another trooper rotflmao

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Also, we don’t know if the allegations of tasering are even true. And again, if they are, this trooper should have been arrested for child abuse – and I would imagine a felony. Since this didn’t happen, I doubt it happened. Why just get the guy fired, why not charge him with a felony?

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Generally with child felonies, the child themselves are the best evidence. No laughing matter.

Posted by: D.R. Daneker | October 11, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Somebody asked ” who is the real John McCain. I’m not sure, but I definately know who the real Barack Obama/Barry Soetero is, and I dont want ANY part of him.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Btw if McCain thinks Obama is ‘palling around’ with terrorists, why did he just recently at a rally told a racist old bag who said that Obama is ‘an arab’:
“No, ma’am. He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that’s what this campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].”
“But I will be respectful. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments, and I will respect him.”
Republicans, dont you think its strange that McCain respects and admires someone who is ‘palling around’ with terrorists?
Can someone who ‘palling around’ with terrorists be decent?
John McCain will be the butt of many jokes on the senate floor for a long time to come.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

D.R. Daneker ,
Maybe her sister was fearful of this guy and did not call this guys buddies to come to the house that day???You forget we are talking about something called the blue wall ever hear of it???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Code_of_Silence

Posted by: reddog0216 | October 11, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Political jobs 101 and being reasonable -
Ok, so anyone who understands the law and politics will know that Gov. Palin’s statement is 100% correct – she was well within her powers to relieve Monegan of his position. She did no wrong in firing him. His job was considered “serving at the pleasure of the Governor”. Basically this means that she can fire him without cause or reason. The report, same as in Whitewater, expanded the scope of it’s investigation to cover incidents reported that relate to the trooper in question. That’s where the abuse of power charge came into play. Now putting aside all partisanship, I’d like to believe that anyone here wouldn’t hesitate to act within the entire scope of their powers – even into a “gray area” – if there was someone out there threatening their family, tazing their nephew, etc. All of these charges have been substantiated in the report. She wasn’t doing anything for personal profit or monetary gain. out This is why I can give Gov. Palin and her husband the benefit of doubt.

Posted by: Loves this country | October 11, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

1. If Joe Biden’s Wife had used his office for the kind of business that TOD did , would the wing-nut outrage machine would be blowing gaskets….?
2. Is this helpful news? or not?
3. It seems her “act” and this story is very familiar isn’t it?

Posted by: thegwoe | October 11, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Wing-Nuts may love her.
I may dislike her.
********
But the polls are CLEAR.
She grows more and more and more
UNFAVORABLE every day with people who were neutral before knowing anything about her.
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McCain’s Reckless, erratic Judgment has been revealed again and again. He picked the wrong person to help him win. PERIOD.

Posted by: thegwoe | October 11, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Badger – WE CAN TELL BY HOW MANY TIME YOU POSTING THAT YOU ARE A RIGHT WING NUT! I BY PASS YOUR COMMENTS AND reddog0216. Sorry, it not looking good for you right wing nutS!

Posted by: gl | October 11, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Palins approval rating may have been 80% in Alaska but i think its closing in to be 80% NEGATIVE rating in this race.

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

There you go again, Charlie, George and all of the pro Obama media-ites, dog gone it!
You really just don’t understand anything about the heart and soul of Americans, who will rise up and vote their own conscience, not your self-serving, media-slanted viewpoints on the news projected within tainted polling practices.
When will the media investigate and report more on the increased corruption within the Obama camp of the OBAMA-ites who are fraudently padding the ballot box with bogus voter regisrations?
What about the “Obama-gate” that only swings one way and then opens up to march people through a fraudent voter registration process, that directly leads people by the hand to the nearest early voting ballot box for OBAMA? Is that the profile of Obama “leading” within the varied state polls, before the general election day? You would expect no less from third World, oppressed national election. Why not OBAMA?
Is this Obama, “short changing” the American people with deception and thereby taking the law into his own hands to benefit only himself?
The fabric of Obama’s campaign is interwoven with under-reported scandlous corruption within the underlying reality that OBAMA will do whatever it takes to win with such “dirty politics”. OBAMA is the one who put a media target on Sarah Palin as a distraction away from the truth of his own “biological” profile and political, global “bed-warming” with foreign leaders, who would compromise the safety and well-being of our country in a heartbeat.
Does OBAMA represent this kind of “change” that you want to vote for, that is nothing short of “more of the same” corruption within all of the Washingtonian “rank” and file?
The infectious seeds of government corruption is not restricted to party lines. Daily, our government is being bought and sold through Wall Street. The voice of the people is NOT the reflection of Wall Street, but rather foreign governments, who have an invested interest in our country.
Is our American right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness being re-negotiated with a price tag, everyday–to the hightest bidder? Are we voting for Wall Street in this election, or the voice of the American people?
Is the government–not party special interest groups–still representing the will and the voice of the people?
Go figure! OBAMA’s “biological-clock” is ticking away with minute-by-minute deceptions interwoven with corruption. We are witnessing the “new-birth” of awakening America to socialism. Is that the change that you want to vote for on election day?
We are in trouble, without Hope, because we have failed to acknowledge God in all our ways, placing our trust in mere men, rather than in God.
Even the smallest coin exchanged wtihin our nation–”a penny, for your thoughts”–already gives the most sought after answer to our present economic crisis. The most valuable truth and the ONLY present answer to our economy crisis is: In GOD, we trust”, not mere men.
How despeate are we to rather embrace OBAMA’S liberalized socialism rather than to become that nation founded upon “In GOD, we trust”?
OBAMA’s socialist idealogies are being stretched over the ole anvil of demoncracy and can be heard with every hammered blow, trying to reshape our world-view as we know it. OBAMA’s profile is filled with associative radical extremisms that would rather “damn” America, rather than to bless it!
So, dog gone it… I betcha the media needs to do some self-reflection within their tainted tide pools of journalistic reporting of this extreme OBAMA-ism. Is this what you really want to look like and be remembered for–for promoting a lie, instead of the truth?
The media continues to engage in their own agenda to support OBAMA, rather than to support a true American Hero: John Mc Cain… and a real “trooper” named Sarah Palin, who will fight for truth, justice and the American Way within the arena of adversity and tasered public opinion.
Who will win this election? The American People, who will prayerfully find their voice within this election.
Remember the popular vote of the people, is not characterized by the electoral vote dictated by gerimandering demographics, Maybe we should just abolish the electoral vote. Then, the media would not be trying to call an election, before even one vote is cast. Everyday the media is tasering away at “we, the people” of this great nation, with a stunning array of biased journalism.
Shame on the media who has tried to steal the voice of the American people and call an election that has not yet taken place. Shame on the media who tries to be the elected voice of the people.
God BLESS John McCain and Sarah Palin, who are the forerunners within this last frontier for truth, justice and the American Way!
GOD, BLESS AMERICA!

Posted by: Lindy Sue | October 11, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

10 republicans, 4 democrats. A bipartisan committe found she abused her power unlawfully.
THANK you! Her campaign releases a statement that said the investigation was started by Obama supporters. Please! Nobody outside os Alaska–or maybe Russians when they reared their heads–knew who Palin was before McCain decided to add her to his trophy case!

Posted by: J | October 11, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

==Why is she denying what we now know is fact.==
Which one is “fact,” Finding 1, or Finding 2?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

To all of you butthurt and ignorant McCain/Palin apologists who whine about Rezko, Ayers, Wright, ACORN, or whatnot, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
Here is the deal: The media HAS investigated these issues… there is no story. Obama’s opponents in the Democratic primaries brought all of these issues up, with the exception of ACORN. Obama is now the party’s candidate in part because these issues have no feet. These issues are dead horses that no amount of beating will move. Newspapers don’t like to print articles that don’t contain any NEWS.
On the other hand, if you clownish, mouth-breathing morons have anything remotely like evidence that Obama has done evil deeds, why don’t you just post that evidence in these blogs and discussions?
Answer: You have nothing but your own mindless hysteria to go on. Even FauxNews, smelly Rush Limburger and blustering “loofa-man” Bill O have nothing beyond cheap and empty smear and innuendo to throw at Obama. Even your main man McCain’t neglected to bring up any of these ‘issues’ at the last debate, though these issues seem awfully important to him now.
Guess what? McCain won’t be bringing these issues up in next week’s debate either. You wanna know why? Because McCain KNOWS this whole effort by his own campaign is total bull. He doesn’t want to give Obama the opportunity to politely force McCain to eat his own excrement on national television.
Fact is, everyone with an IQ over about 80 can see the garbage about Ayers, Rezko, etc for what it is: A desperate strategy of smear and innuendo by a pair of ambitious career politicians whose campaign is tanking badly but who have nothing of substance to offer. Why can’t you see that? Probably because your IQ is well under 80. In words that you might be able to understand “You’re really DUMB!”.
Now shut up and stop interfering with discussions among adults. Go back to lurking under your bridge (to nowhere?).

Posted by: BubbaBob | October 11, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

==Looks like the guy Palin fired will have a nice civil suit against the family.==
It WOULD look like that to somebody who hasn’t read Findings 1 and 2 and tried to determine which one is fact.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

==The media HAS investigated these issues… there is no story.==
There wouldn’t be in a news media “that is” in the tank for Rezkobama.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

SteveT, I agree with you about Rose. I wonder how that stupidity is working out for her? It certainly isn’t serving Sarah very well.

Posted by: Lisa | October 11, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

==A bipartisan committe [sic] found she abused her power unlawfully.==
Which Finding, 1, or 2, says that?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Either Sarahcuda abused her power and it is improper and illegal, or it is not improper and not illegal what she did and, therefore, isn’t an abuse of power. Which is it?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am

I heard OJ is seeking a new trial, he should just skip that and write a report to ‘clear’ himself. Hey if Sarah can do it then what the heck…

Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 11, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am

LOLOL Just what we need another cheny in a skirt with lipstick ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AMERICA wake up see palin for the fraud lying dangerous person she is! SARA PALIN=BUSH/CHENY IN A SKIRT!

Posted by: angie | October 11, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

==he [O.J.] should just skip that [seek a new trial] and write a report to ‘clear’ himself. Hey if Sarah can do it then what the heck…==
Sarah cleared herself of what, Finding 1, or Finding 2?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | October 11, 2008, 10:34 am 10:34 am

According to the AK Legislative Council report, Gov.Palin abused the power of her office because she “failed” to prevent her husband Todd, from exercising his First Amendment rights. Apparently the Legislative Council believes that Todd does not enjoy the FIRST Amendment Right to communicate political “concerns” directly to appointed members of the Governor’s administration. The sheer hypocracy of the Legislative Council’s decision “REEKS” of double standard. Apparently Hillary CLinton can sit in Cabinet meetings when Bill was elected to his first term and advise extensively on health care and other issues. But NOOOOOO, Todd Palin is supposed to keep quiet and not express any concern regarding this “FOOL” trooper Wooten, who TAZED his own stepson. Where the HELL is the ACLU when you need them?

Posted by: abcblogger | October 11, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

I saw O’bama yell “YO” at someone the other day.
Do we need a ‘YO-YO’ president!!??
Is such illustrative of a true presidential demeanor!!??
YO, YO, YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…………………..

Posted by: Anon | October 11, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

“I am pretty sick and tired of being called a racist because I don’t support Sen Obama”
Posted by mm
————————————–
But of course, they are playing the “race card” to divert the attention from Obama’s character and judgement…
I wonder why ABC and the rest of the left-wing-liberal media clowns are not reporting about this…
Associated Press:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Hmmmmmm!…..
Obama fundraiser, convicted of fraud, spills beans
The Associated Press
By MIKE ROBINSON – 7 hours ago
CHICAGO (AP) — Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive.
Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich, whose administration faces multiple federal investigations over how it handed out jobs and money with advice from Rezko, is considered the most vulnerable.
Rezko also was friendly with Obama — offering him a job when he finished law school, funding his earliest political campaigns and purchasing a lot next to his house. But based on the known facts, charges so far and testimony at Rezko’s trial, there’s no indication there’ll be an October surprise that could hurt the Democratic presidential nominee — even though Rezko says prosecutors are pressing him for dirt about Obama.
“I think this strikes fear into the Blagojevich administration and the Statehouse Democrats but not into the Obama campaign,” says state Sen. Kirk Dillard, R-Westmont, a John McCain delegate to the GOP convention but an old friend of Obama.
Rezko, 53, a real estate developer, was convicted in June of scheming to use his clout with the Blagojevich administration to squeeze $7 million in kickbacks out of a contractor and seven money management firms seeking to do business with the state.
Within two months, Rezko was seen in U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald’s office, along with his attorneys.
There has been no official confirmation that Rezko is talking but his sentencing has been postponed indefinitely and both sides say they are going to “engage in discussions that could affect their sentencing postures.”
“They never would have delayed the sentencing if he weren’t talking — it’s proof positive,” said Jay Stewart, executive director of the Better Government Association of Chicago.
In addition, attorneys say federal investigators have been questioning Blagojevich contributions around the state using information that only Rezko could have supplied. Finally, courthouse personnel requesting anonymity because grand jury probes are secret said Rezko has been repeatedly brought from his cell to the U.S. attorney’s office to talk to prosecutors.
Rezko could have a lot to tell. He has raised millions of dollars in campaign money for many Illinois politicians and according to federal prosecutors used his clout to control appointments to state boards.
Obama has sent to charity $159,000 that Rezko raised for his campaigns for the state legislature, the House and the Senate. Rezko raised nothing for Obama’s White House run.
Obama’s name came up in testimony at the trial four times, twice in connection with an obscure legislative memo, as a guest at a Rezko party and when defense attorney Joseph Duffy told jurors his client was a friend of the senator.
None of the witnesses accused the Democratic nominee for president of doing anything improper.
But questions concerning Obama’s relationship with Rezko linger, particularly over Rezko’s role in the purchase of the Obamas’ home.
The two have known each other for years, starting when Rezko offered Obama a job after he graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991. Obama didn’t take it, but a friendship developed.
The men talked politics frequently and occasionally dined together with their wives.
In 2005, the Obamas paid $1.65 million for their home near the University of Chicago. The sellers wanted a parcel they owned next door to sell on the same day, and Rezko’s wife, Rita, was the buyer. At the request of the Obamas, Mrs. Rezko later sold them a 10-foot strip of land to enlarge their lot. They paid $104,500.
The deal took place while Rezko was under investigation and when details of the cozy relationship surfaced, Obama said it was a “bonehead” error to have asked for the additional land because it looked like he was getting a favor.
“I regret it,” Obama said at the time. “I’m going to make sure that from this point on I don’t even come close to the line.”
McCain and vice running mate Sarah Palin have mentioned Rezko little if at all. But Republicans have aired a television ad focusing on Rezko. And McCain aides have repeatedly tweaked their opponent over the real estate deal in e-mails to reporters.
“We’re delighted to have a debate on judgment with Barack Obama, who bought his million-dollar mansion in a shady deal with a convicted felon,” McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said in August.
Blagojevich, meanwhile, got a black eye from the trial.
One witness testified that Blagojevich talked about hiring him for a major state job while his $25,000 donation to the governor’s campaign fund was lying on the table.
Two attorneys testified that Blagojevich hinted that they could get lucrative state contracts if they raised money — possibly for a future White House campaign.
Obama’s name has not surfaced in accounts of the investigation since the trial. But Rezko himself raised it in a letter to the judge months ago.
“Your Honor, the prosecutors have been overzealous in pursuing a crime that never happened,” he wrote. “They are pressuring me to tell them the wrong things that I supposedly know about Gov. Blagojevich and Sen. Barack Obama.”
© 2008 The Associated Press.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

“I am pretty sick and tired of being called a racist because I don’t support Sen Obama”
Posted by mm
————————————–
But of course, they are playing the “race card” to divert the attention from Obama’s character and judgement…
I wonder why ABC and the rest of the left-wing-liberal media clowns are not reporting about this…
Associated Press:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am

I wonder what the next move for the McCain camp will be? What do they say and do now? I’m sure they will find a way to blame this on Obama as well. You all better get use to saying President Obama, because of McCain’s poor judgement on his VP pick (nice). We are all smarting than we were four years ago, and won’t fall for the same BS coming from the republicans. Your time has come to an end my friends…
Posted by: jeff
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Ahaha…ha! Not so fast Mickey Mouse!
HOT OFF THE PRESS…
TONYGATE!!
Obama fundraiser, convicted of fraud, spills beans
The Associated Press
By MIKE ROBINSON – 7 hours ago
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Jeff wrote: blah blah blah…
“I wonder what the next move for the McCain camp will be? What do they say and do now? I’m sure they will find a way to blame this on Obama as well. You all better get use to saying President Obama, because of McCain’s poor judgement on his VP pick (nice). We are all smarting than we were four years ago, and won’t fall for the same BS coming from the republicans. Your time has come to an end my friends…”
Posted by: jeff
————————————
Ahaha…ha! Not so fast Mickey Mouse!
HOT OFF THE PRESS…
TONYGATE!!
Obama fundraiser, convicted of fraud, spills beans
The Associated Press
By MIKE ROBINSON – 7 hours ago
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hQmszDq4LOiRMcYNSaUdrmvTcB2AD93O8N500

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am

FOX NEWS, the most powerful Conservative channel, has been pounding the Media w/Rezco, Ayers, Rev. Wright since The Primaries w/Hillary Clinton.
Its continuing doing so now……almost 24/7.
Didn’t work then, it isn’t working now, and even McCain had to backup from his angry crowd before the negative campaign totally destroys him.
The Troopergate scandal is getting infinitely much more attention !
Does anybody believe that all this Rezco thing against Obama will actually break through ?

Posted by: skyglider2008 | October 11, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

and all of this talk about people being morons and simpletons and such. At least we’re all here, concerned about the same thing – our country and our livliehoods. How do differing opinions make the speaker a moron, just because they don’t see it like you do? We differ on the solution is all. I just find it hard to believe that people really think that either Obama or McCain will bring any real change. They are the sock puppets for those that truly rule.. I think the same was true for Bush, which is how he got into so much trouble… and also took the hit for it… while those pulling the levers, the ones who are really in control – and not elected to be sure, pull the levers… Maybe I’m just the lone ranger thinking this is the case, but nothing else makes alot of sense right now…

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Sorry Obamanuts, Palin was found NOT GUILTY of any wrong doing in firing Monegan. So the Obama supporter led investigators decided after spending all that money to make it worth their while by determining that Sarah was un ethical. HILARIOUSLY OBVIOUS partisan political BULLSHTT.
Here are the Democratic Skunks who headed this investigation coincidently in OBama headquarters.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The illerate jerks making remarks about Sarah Palin here are the same illerate jerks who gossip and accused the Ramsey’s of killing their own daughter regardless of what the EVIDENCE proved. This idiots would believe anything negative without any proof at all. This is why there should be a test of how smart people are before they can vote or have children. These fools that believe this BS that the Democrats are trying to pull just show how stupid they are when they suck into this without even READING the FACTS. All you need are some unethical, illeterate, biased reporters (Katie Couric comes to mind when she acussed the Ramseys), just like the stupid reporters who get caught making up stories and who have NO credability at all and ADMIT to writing total lies. However, these citizen fools believe every stupid slanted headline out there without checking out a single word to find out if it is true or not. This is why our country is going down the tubes because fools like these jerks get to actually vote.

Posted by: Barbara | October 11, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Well, Mr. Incredible, don’t leave things in the hands of the “liberal media” then. You clearly believe Obama has done evil deeds. Only a total f`tard would believe something without any evidence, so where is the evidence? Post it here and convince all of us too. Come on, dooshnozzle, cough up the evidence.
Or… maybe you are a simpleminded f`tard who believes things without evidence. If so, your opinions are worthless. Why should anyone listen to you?

Posted by: BubbaBob | October 11, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

PALIN IS A LIAR – AGAIN!!
“Monegan has said he was fired in July after refusing pressure to sack Wooten, who had gone through an acrimonious divorce and custody battle with Palin’s sister.
Palin and her husband, Todd, have consistently denied any wrongdoing, describing Wooten as a “rogue trooper” who had threatened their family — allegations Branchflower discounted.
“I conclude that such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family reasons,” Branchflower wrote.
THIS IN NOT SOME DEMOCRAT CONSPIRACY LIKE PALIN AND McCAIN SAY…
These are the findings of an 8 week investigation, 25+ witnesses “under oath” done by 10 Republicans and only 4 Democrats!!!!
PALIN IS A SHAPE-SHIFTING LIAR!!
PALIN IS A CRIMINAL AND BELONGS IN JAIL!!

Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

PALIN in 2008 says “there is no cover-up!”
“I AM NOT A CROOK!”
NIXON in 1974 says “there is no cover-up!”
“I AM NOT A CROOK!”
Palin is a pathological liar, and her and her husband the “First Dud” need to be behind bars!!
Maybe Bush can pardon them on his way out of office!!!

Posted by: Davis | October 11, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Now for more misrepresentations about the Palins’ membership in the separatist Alaska Independence Party. Which Sarah addressed at is conventions as late as 2006.
Look at the official state of Alaska website. See the official newsletter PUTTING ALASKA FIRST. see the pretty starry banner. Go to the Alaska Independence Party website. See the pretty starry banner and the slogan Alaska First. Any connection?
How does Putting Alaska First sqaure with McCain’s Country First slogan?

Posted by: earthmother | October 11, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

The outcome of Troopergate is not surprising. Palin is extremely smart when it comes to covering her unethical actions. Many people in office become either greedy or sordid after they get away with something a few times.
By history they eventually get caught.
24 days left and McCain’s numbers remain the same, that’s all thats counts.

Posted by: RosaritoBjaCa | October 11, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Sorry Obamanuts, Palin was found NOT GUILTY of any wrong doing in firing Monegan. So the Obama supporter led investigators decided after spending all that money to make it worth their while by determining that Sarah was un ethical. HILARIOUSLY OBVIOUS partisan political BULLSHTT.
Here are the Democratic Skunks who headed this investigation coincidently in OBama headquarters.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Seriously, is this all you people can dig up about Palin? That a commissioner (who has a domestic violence record himself) quits because he didn’t fire a child abusing trooper. Really?
As governor of a state, it is within her boundaries to take action, and she did. Big Whoop!
This is just a tactic by the Obama campaign to divert the attention from his horrible judgement with terrorist friends and criminals who are about to start singing against your little man-child.
How about all the questionable donations sent from people named jpigh jopikh from Anywhere, Utah. or Jem bojangles with a made up address in Boston. I would wonder if these contributions are from terrorist organizations. Highly likely considering Obama’s connections to Hatem El-Hady, of the Kindheart foundation, whose assets are frozen by the govt and on FBI watchlist for funneling money to Hamas, who by the way endorsed Obama.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Democrats are just bitter americans clinging to their stupidity and lies.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Todd & Sarah Palin’s America is an America MINUS Alaskans an all those Natural Resources, [Oil, Gas & Gold]….
The Former AIP Leader, makes Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers look Angelic !!
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AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.”
It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler….
“I’m an Alaskan, Not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website,
“I’ve got no use for America or her Damned Institutions.”
According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States.
Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an Independent Nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.
The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that….
“The Fires of Hell are Frozen Glaciers compared to MY HATRED for the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT.”
He cursed the Stars and Stripes, Promising…
“I won’t be buried under their DAMNED FLAG …
When Alaska is an Independent Nation they can bring my bones home.”
Sara Palin has not DENOUNCED Vogler or his Detestable [Anti-Americanism].
Todd Palin: Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from [1995 to 2002]
Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.”
While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.
The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s [2000 Convention].
She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s [2006 Convention] and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s [2008 Convention].
In other words, this is not something that happened when she was [Eight]!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska.
In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?”

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

This woman needs to withdraw from the republican ticket!

Posted by: Misspp | October 11, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Obama has run with radical left racist ideologues his whole adult life.
He went from being a self proclaimed heavy user of drugs as a teen right into a black nationaistic church and politics.
He then rubs elbows with adoring terrorists, racist radical left ideologues.
No chance obama, or is it soetero? Head back to chicago and make good on those failed community organizer projects.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

The investigation was started by Sarah Palin and this was going on, well before she’d ever thought she would be selected as McCain’s VP choice….
[10 Republicans & 4 Democrats] in a [Republican State]…
Please, the Witch is Guilty of Abuse of Power…Simple.
Regarding her “Great Contributions to Alaska”
Ha !!!
Wasilla had a 1 Million Dollar Debt, before Palin, after Palin’s Mayoralship, the Town incurred a [25 Million Debt] !!!
So much for [Executive Experience]
Her Bridge To Nowhere…Ha !!!
Her Alaskan Gas & Oil Pipeline is a Joke…
Because there is’nt any Gas-Oil Pipeline, otherthan…
There’s a Gas & Oil Pipeline currently being Built by [Big Oil]
Palin’s Canadian-Alaskan Gas-Oil Pipeline is a stalemate, Canada’s Native Americans will not Allow Canada using it’s Land…
You Palin-Holics need to really get off the Palin Sauce and Research…
She’s a FRAUD, FAKE and LIAR !!!
Her Husband Todd Palin was a Member of the of the [Alaskan Independence Party] 7 Years and is still an Unofficial Member. Todd Palin and his Son are Not Registered [Republicans]
Todd Palin controls Sarah and he’s a [Shadow Governor]
You Republicans Demand that Palin and her husband Todd Denounce the Very Un-American [Alaskan Independence Party]and what it Stands for and Represents.
You Low Lifes won’t and thats the Glaring facts regarding how you Blind your Eyes to The Palin’s and McCain, but Demand so much of Obama.

Posted by: o. | October 11, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Posted by: reddog0216 | Oct 11, 2008 10:18:40 AM
You guys are out of your mind calling her a crook.She took on big oil in alaska and forced them to give an addtional 1200 for every citizen in alaska.I dont know about you thats pretty good!
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She did “did not take on big oil and force them to give us an additional $1200″. The extra $1200 was from our investments in the Permanent Fund Divident to help defray the costs of electric, fuel, etc. I don’t care how they “spin” it she is guilty of abusing her power and we certainly don’t need someone like that in or near the WH!!!

Posted by: akskimo | October 11, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Barack Obama Couldn’t Pass a Routine Background Investigation
http://www.northstarwriters.com/gl045.htm

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Posted by: Badger | Oct 11, 2008 4:37:08 PM
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Obama or his supporters had nothing to do with this investigation. It was started long, long before Palin was selected to be on the McCain ticket. We, who live in Alaska, know better than to believe the “spin” they have tried to put on this matter. She is guilty of abusing her power!

Posted by: akskimo | October 11, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Sorry Obamanuts, Sarah Palin was found NOT GUILTY of any wrong doing in firing Monegan.
So the Obama loving investigators decided after spending all that money to make it worth their while by opining that Sarah was unethical. HILARIOUSLY OBVIOUS partisan political BULLSHTT.
Here are the Democratic Skunks who headed this investigation coincidently in OBama headquarters.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?num=1221142758;start=all
Sarah Palin ROCKS!!!!!!

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

askimo
save your BS. As soon as She was tapped for Veepee, this investigation became a witch hunt.
Here are the Democratic Skunks who headed this investigation coincidently in Obama headquarters.
http://www.libertynewsforum.com/cgi-bin/news/YaBB.pl?

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

badger….You, of course, are entitled to your opinion, right or wrong. The legislative council was comprised of 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats and their decision was unanimous!! Obama or his people had nothing to do with it. As has been stated everywhere, this was started long, long before Palin was selected for the ticket. The only lawyers up here having anything to do with it, were from the McCain/Palin campaign trying to “make it go away”!!!

Posted by: akskimo | October 11, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

I think her name is misspelled , should be Plain, Plain and Simple and unqualified to be VP

Posted by: pat | October 11, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

aksimo
Sarah Palin through fighting fraud and corruption in her own party, along with challenging an incumbent Governor and beating him created alot of animosity towards her.
Republicans and dems were out to get her. Think about this. They investigated her for firing a worker for personal reasons. They had no choice yesterday but to find her innocent on that.
Then they decide that they had to hang something on her, so they say she was unethical? Are you kiding me?
And since when is wanting a half deranged state trooper his has a licence to carry a gun to be fired who tazered a 10 year old a bad thing?
This whole thing was nothing but a witch hunt by partisan or vindictive politicians.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Just file this as the-troopergate-investigation-to-No-where along with that Bridge-to-no-where which Palin claimed to tell congress “thanks but no thanks, of which she still kept the money and spent it on that ‘Road to no where’ which Sarah Palin built, but no one on the Island can use because That Road Goes No Where.

Posted by: mere | October 11, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

aksimo
Sarah Palin through fighting fraud and corruption in her own party, along with challenging an incumbent Governor and beating him created alot of animosity towards her.
Republicans and dems were out to get her. Think about this. They investigated her for firing a worker for personal reasons. They had no choice yesterday but to find her innocent on that.
Then they decide that they had to hang something on her, so they say she was unethical? Are you kiding me?
And since when is wanting a half deranged state trooper fired a bad thing, after he tazers a 10 year old, and threatens the Palin family?
This whole thing was nothing but a witch hunt by partisan or vindictive politicians.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Sorry, msa123, but the opinion of a moron is not the same as the opinion of a thoughtful and intelligent individual who carefully considers the issues. It does not matter how passionately one believes something, a moron’s opinion is still worthless.
You (msa123) say “They are the sock puppets for those that truly rule.” It is true, both Obama and McCain are staunch capitalists (verbal diarrhea from morons saying one or the other is a communist aside). “Those that truly rule”, as you call them, are facing a fundamental and systemic failure of their entire economic model. The titans of capitalism are deeply divided on how to fix things, or even if they should bother trying. One side thinks things are fixable, but the other side says “Grab everything of value that you can carry on the way out…we’ll just let it burn”. I (a REAL communist) would like to see the entire finance industry nationalized; not just the debt, as the current plan is structured, but the assets too. Put it all under the control of a democratically elected committee. THAT isn’t going to happen any time soon, so we have to choose between two capitalist plans. Both plans will ultimately fail (both are predicated upon finance being controlled by the “Invisible Hand of the Market”, which is what got us here in the first place), but we can support one if it seems like it will hurt us regular folks less than the other.
So, msa123, which plan do YOU think will hurt us little folks the least? Obama’s “Tax the rich to feed the poor” approach or McCain’s “Give it all to the rich and hope it ‘trickles down’ to the rest of us”? Remember that this “Trickle-down Economics” experiment has been going on since 1980… and IT DOESN’T WORK! In retrospect, it is obvious that it couldn’t work. When money was given to rich people they found that they could make MORE money with it by speculating on real estate, oil, etc, than they could on creating new jobs (ie: investing in creating new manufacturing capacity). When new manufacturing capacity was developed, it was built in China. Soooo….give money to the rich and they will drive up oil prices, drive up real estate prices and move jobs to China…. GOOD PLAN!
On the other hand, we have Obama’s plan “Tax the rich!” “Isn’t that cruel”, you think, “picking on a tiny minority?” Well, let’s listen to the richest person in the world, Warren Buffet. He has been saying for many years “Tax us, you f`n morons! TAX US! We pay less taxes than you do, you simple-minded cretins!” Furthermore, Buffet is using his own cash to prop up failing finance companies, so he is certainly putting his money where his mouth is.
Just so that you know, Warren Buffet is on the side of the capitalist schism that thinks we can save modern civilization and get things moving forward again. The ones that still support “Trickle-down Economics” and deregulation are on the “Let it burn!” side.
McCain is politically aligned with the “Let it burn” faction, but he obviously has fundamental disagreements with them. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have enough understanding of economics (his own admission) to put up much of a fight against them. This is the cause for his confusion and contradictory policy statements since the economic crisis became impossible to ignore. All McCain can offer is to put on a brave face while he rides the nation into the ground.
So… capitalism has crashed hard. Everything was in its favor: Low taxes, weak regulation, war (you know that war is good for business, right?), low barriers to trade, supportive regulatory bodies worldwide. Unionism was down, wages were “under control”, productivity was up. What more could big business want? Nevertheless, the entire global economic system has just gone into cardiac arrest. (I know, I know, but time scales are different. You know how you have “dog years”(about 10 to 15 human years) and “cat years” (about 7 human years)? Well, only a couple seconds has passed in “Global Economy years”. Bystanders are still looking over the body on the ground and saying “Gee, that must have hurt. Should we call an ambulance?”) So, go with McCain’s solution to bomb and drill our way out of this mess or Obama’s “Tax the rich and try to move ahead” approach?

Posted by: BubbaBob | October 11, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Badger….First off, most everyone was elated when she beat out Frank Murkowski as he was an ignorant A$$! Her approval rating was very, very high….90 or so. Then came the firing. First she welcomed the investigation and pledged to cooperate. Then she was picked for the ticket and decided not to cooperate with the legislative investigation, but instead started her own investigation with the State Personnel Board, who serves at her pleasure and can be fired at anytime by her. Those proceedings are secret and take a long time. Now her approval rating here is in the 60′s. The unethical part comes in because “she knowingly let Todd use her office to try to get Wooten fired, in violation of the state ethics act”.

Posted by: akskimo | October 11, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

akskimo
youre still not providing any evidence of wrong doing on Sarah Palins part. Most of Alaskans polled said that they would do the same thing in trying to get an unstable trooper who carries a gun and a tazer fired.
If this is all they can dig up on Palin,, if this the extent of troopergate, its a joke, and a waste of time and money.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Who is the real Sarah Palin? The American hating Alaskan Independence Party member? The Nixon like bully that this report shows? Someone who doesn’t pay her full taxes? The American people have the right to know.

Posted by: Sean | October 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

I think her name is misspelled , should be Plain, Plain and Simple and unqualified to be VP

Posted by: pat | October 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

With the publication of the investigative findings in the Troopergate scandal, now is a good time to look even closer at Sarah Palin’s political record. The question on everyone’s mind in light of the Troopergate report is whether Palin is even qualified to be vice-president. Before you answer that question, go to The Dailysource’s website and get acquainted (or reacquainted) with Sarah Palin, the candidate. Go to http://www.dailysource.org/special/palin/205#troopergate%3A_palin%26%2339%3Bs_firing_of_the_public_safety_chief

Posted by: rpyon21 | October 11, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

WHy is Obama so protective to his own college days? What’s he ashamed of? That’s the scarriest part of his whole existance…good grief, America deserves better that this…Mrs Clinton could have been much better…but yet again, Biden even was against him befre he was chosen by him…haha…talk about politics…they are all the same…

Posted by: Only1MeBz | October 11, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

if you have the intellect, one can differentiate between right and wrong. Palin does not have that and therefore denies andy wrong doing.

Posted by: silkwool | October 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

The wrong doing was as I stated,”she knowing let her husband use the office of the Governor to try to get someone fired”. I’m not disputing the fact that the trooper is a poor excuse for a human being and should be disposed of. Also, first she said she fired Wooten because of a department reorganization and offered him another position elsewhere (which he declined). Then it was because he didn’t have her permission to travel to D.C. Then when there was evidence contrary to that, she said he was let go for insubordination, which I find questionable because she had offered him a position in another department. She had several different stories. Also the use of her personal email for State business was questionable. Her husband sat in on all the Governor’s official meetings and was cc’d official correspondence. We did not elect him to be governor. For the record, I did vote for her and supported her until it became clear that she was not much better than her predecessor!

Posted by: akskimo | October 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

I would have done the same thing if it would had happened to me. I see this many times happening in buisness and in government. Accountabiity is very important in any job. The rules are straight forward. A lot of people in high positions won’t take these kind of unpopular desicion because they does not want to be in the spotlight. Sarah is not on of these kind of people. This is not a popularity contest. Keep up the good work Sarah!!

Posted by: Donny | October 11, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

before* oops!

Posted by: Only1MeBz | October 11, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

PALIN is an unethical, pushy, dumb, uninformed you know what…I like that, they should be called ERATIC and UNETHICAL running for P & VP, what a team. Mc C. thought that women would vote for him because he got Palin for his running mate.. Guess what Mr. Mc Cain…These women ain’t stupid and not falling for your BS.

Posted by: Nanny | October 11, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

PALIN is an unethical, pushy, dumb, uninformed you know what…I like that, they should be called ERATIC and UNETHICAL running for P & VP, what a team. Mc C. thought that women would vote for him because he got Palin for his running mate.. Guess what Mr. Mc Cain…These women ain’t stupid and not falling for your BS.

Posted by: Nanny | October 11, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

…Wink, wink,,wink…Ohhhhh and I can see Russia from my house…giggle, giggle giggle….Yuck

Posted by: Nanny | October 11, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Sarah Palin is by far the best of the 4 candidates in this race.

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Has anyone ever seen a public figure in as far over their heads as Palin??? SHE ABUSED HER POWER AS GOVENOR!! What would she be capable of with more power to abuse??? to answer the aforementioned question,oh yeah, W. Let’s say no more to four more years of the same failed policies. Mc Cain and Palin do not care about our welfare they are looking to cement their legacies and grab more POWER to abuse!!!! She makes me ill!!!

Posted by: dave | October 11, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

bubba: I appreciate your thoughtful response. But the Robin Hood Plan doesn’t work. That system is also broken. Look at our welfare system. Look at the government housing and projects and squalor people live in. This keeps people uneducated and uninformed, just waiting for the government handouts. It doesn’t encourage any type of accountability or responsibility. I don’t agree that someone who makes over 250k should pay more in taxes. He may have earned his way to making that kind of money and more power to him. I am not that fortunate. I have my own business. I truly cannot afford health care for my employees. If I am forced to give them healthcare, some of them will lose their job. I do agree with some of what you are saying. But Obama’s philosophy is no better than McCain’s. It’s all about the extremely wealthy few at the top no matter how you slice it. They will always win, and we, the middle class and lower, will always lose.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Bubba: ps. I don’t mean to be such a naysayer… but it is irritating to me that so many act and talk as if Obama (or McCain for that matter) is going to save the world – our world. Putting that kind of hope in a human being – one who will have other forces at work behind him, pulling the levers and letting that man deliver their message to the people in a palatable way… it makes no difference who is in there, except for the social issues. Money, power, and greed have taken over the “big boys”… and we are at their mercy and are of little consequence to them. If Obama really thinks he is going to fix things, he is very naive.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

She VIOLATED Public trust( not my words -its paraphrased from the report)
Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.
This is Ethics – this is how you conduct yourself as a professional!
Looks like for Sarah Palin there is no line between personal and professional!
- especially disgusting in a public office!

Posted by: tkforchange | October 11, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Does anyone find it interesting that the recent succession of presidents we’ve had have tried (and succeeded) to come across initially as just ‘bubbas’ or good old boys? Carter (peanut farmer), Reagan (actor), Bush (not too bright), Obama (rags to riches)… but when they have gotten in there… it’s a whole different ballgame. Anybody ever wonder about that? Anybody ever wonder why they have such a need to try to ‘relate’ to us in such a way, and how we fall for it every time? And they’re all seasoned politicians. Wow.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Todd Palin wrote in his affidavit, “I have heard criticism that I am too involved in my wife’s administration. My wife and I are very close. We are each other’s best friend. I have helped her in her career the best I can, and she has helped me.”
Todd Palin had contacts with Monegan in the Governor’s office to discuss trooper Wooten. Now the McCain camp says Sarah Palin “did not learn of these contacts by Todd Palin, until August of this year.”
They are best friends, yet he doesn’t tell her what he’s doing in her office for two years? Hogwash… with or without lipstick.

Posted by: Here's One For Snopes | October 11, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

– I am not that fortunate. I have my own business. I truly cannot afford health care for my employees. If I am forced to give them healthcare, some of them will lose their job. I do agree with some of what you are saying. But Obama’s philosophy is no better than McCain’s. –
Well then msa, you will be pleased to know that your assumptions are incorrect.
Obamas health plan is to create an insurance company that can pool policies in order to better negotiate prices, similar to what the Senators have in congress. It will be affordable, optional and portable from job to job. In addition, he proposes tax cuts to business just like yours who provide health insurance coverage to their employees. It will save businesses and estimated $140 billion a year, spurring the economy, creating jobs and allowing for increased production. Also, the increase in the number of insured Americans (projected 47% of currently uninsured as opposed to 7% at peak under McCains plan) will further stimulate the economy and provide for additional job creation.. not to mention the ripple effect to related industries.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
McCain on the other hand simply wants to deregulate, tax employers for providing health insurance in order to shift workers to private coverage, and give a fixed tax credit to workers across the board regardless of income. Not only will more americans lose coverage under this plan due to inability to pay and pre-existing conditions, but it, like his tax plan simply favors the rich.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122152292213639569.html

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

Sarah Palin was absolutely right, and did NOTHING wrong. Unfortunately the main stream media is not putting out the facts of the case and are spinning it in the worst light. Whats new. We all know the media doesnt want to discuss obamas ties to acorn ayers, alinski, auchi, amd I’m not even out of the A’s yet.
Palin is a true american hero, Obama is true un-american zero

Posted by: Badger | October 11, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

– Unfortunately the main stream media is not putting out the facts of the case –
From the report:
“For the reasons explained in section IV of this report, I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by volating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.”
It’s not MSM, it’s the report.
Badger, do you by chance live in Florida?

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

When an official report is released stating that the object of investigation is ” guilty of abuse of power”, only an idiot would exclaim “I am not guilty!!”. This shows how stupid she is, and how irresponsible and arrogant she would be. Time for all those Alaskans to take a good look at the one who is bringing their state into disrepute. Meanwhile, the legislature should take a long hard look at who they have selected to lead the state and do what is right for all those law-abiding citizens who deserve better. OUT WITH THE PALINS, for the dude Todd has admitted himself that he had been greatly involved in state matters, even treating the office of the gov as his own domain.

Posted by: Karen | October 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Badger, read page 8 of the report. It’s even available from “Fair & Balanced” Fox News. You can’t blame this one on spin.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/DOWNLOAD.pdf

Posted by: Rudy | October 11, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Jailed Obama Fundraiser Spills the Beans
Obamas boy Rezko. You bonehead Dems have been swindled. And you will still vvote for this clown. Pathetic.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive.
Obama seems to be guilty here, why arent we talking about that. CORRUPTION,TERRIORIST, WHITE HATERS and you fools are still voting for the clown. That is just guilty of being an idiot.

Posted by: Curious George | October 11, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

concerned citizen: Thank you, for your thoughtful response and information you presented. Obama’s plan does solve the issue of the uninsured; however, I do not feel it is the responsibility of the employer to provide/foot the bill for insurance for employees. I do not understand why it should have to be this way. I do not like being forced to do so by the government. Yes, of course I would like everyone to have health insurance. But I don’t understand the concept that the employer should pay for it.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Think about this, you’ll have somewhere between four and sixteen years to kick Sarah Palin around. Won’t that be fun?
And you were worried what you’d do when Bush wasn’t around to be beat up.

Posted by: OB Ron | October 11, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

– Jailed Obama Fundraiser Spills the Beans –
He did fundraising for Obama in 2004, not this election, and Obama gave the money he raised to charity. The Horror! And even GOP supporters have said there is no smoking gun and Obama is in no way implicated.. The state legislature is getting a bit worried, but that’s about it.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

A vote for Obama means you want a hand out. Notice all the scumbag smoking cars that proudly display the “Obam/Biden 08″ bumber stickers.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Employers should not be mandated to pay for health insurance. It all started as a perk to attract high quality employees.
This nonsense that government should now provide health insurance for all is ridiculous. The absolute most that government should do is to step in when an unfit or otherwise failure of a parent is unable or unwilling to provide for their children.

Posted by: OB Ron | October 11, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

– I do not feel it is the responsibility of the employer to provide/foot the bill for insurance for employees. I do not understand why it should have to be this way. I do not like being forced to do so by the government. –
msa, you apparently missed the ‘optional’ part. You are under no obligation to provide insurance to your employees, unless local and state laws require you do to so, just as it is now. You will however have a tax incentive should you decide to do so, and those business who currently do will save an estimated $140 billion a year in savings which will be injected directly into the economy through increased job creation and production across all sectors.
Go read the analysis by the economic policy institute and the one by the wall street journal I provided links for. You may also want to see a side by side comparison of the plans here:
http://www.health08.org/FINAL%202%20CANDIDATES%20Side-By-Side%20July%2022.pdf

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

LA Times: January 20, 2008
“Sen. Barack Obama announced Saturday that he would donate to charity $40,350 in past political contributions, after his identity surfaced in a public corruption case headed to trial.
The case and the contributions involve Antoin Rezko, one of Obama’s earliest patrons. Rezko, 52, is scheduled to go on trial next month on federal charges alleging he joined a scheme to force investment firms seeking business from Illinois state pension funds to pay kickbacks.”
Please don’t make Obama look like a saint in this. It insults the intelligence…

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

She’s innocent. What else would you expect her to say.
And for all you ADD people out there, remember to stay on task here. The subject is Sarah Palin.

Posted by: AZMac | October 11, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Obama’s change means that middle class money will change hands with those not willing to work for a living. Go Obama!
Go away!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

– This nonsense that government should now provide health insurance for all is ridiculous. –
And they are not. Obamas plan is simply creating an insurance company that will provide affordable, optional and portable coverage, not a free ride at the governments expense. It’s goal is not to insure all americans, but allow more americans to be able to obtain insurance. And if you look at the analysis, both McCains and Obamas plans cost roughly the same, but Obamas will allow more americans to obtain coverage and be more efficent at doing so, and McCains plan would cause more americans to lose coverage due to inability to pay and pre-existing conditions.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

The Boston Herald
It is what it is: Obama allied with scoundrels
Saturday, October 11, 2008
In the best tradition of Bill Clinton’s declaration that the answer to the question of whether he was having an affair depended on “what the definition of is is,” Sen. Barack Obama was clearly concealing the truth when he said that William Ayers was “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood.”
The Ayers-Obama connection was, in fact, an intimate collaboration that it led to the only executive or administrative experience in Obama’s life.
After Walter Annenberg’s foundation offered several hundred million dollars to American public schools in the mid-’90s, Ayers applied for $50 million for Chicago. His purpose was to “raise political consciousness” in schools.
After he won the grant, Ayers’ group chose Obama to distribute the $50 million, and the future senator raised another $60 million from other civic groups to augment it. In doing so, he was following Ayers’ admonition to grant the funds to “external” organizations, like American Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), to pair with schools and conduct programs to radicalize and politicize the students.
Reading, math and science achievement tests counted for little in the grants, but the school’s success in preaching a radical agenda determined how much money it got.
Obama should have run screaming at the sight of Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. Ayers has admitted bombing the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon, and his wife was imprisoned for failing to cooperate in solving the robbery of a Brink’s car in which two police were killed. Far from remorse, Ayers told The New York Times [NYT], in September 2001, that he wished he “could have done more.” Ayers only avoided conviction when the evidence against him turned out to be contained in illegal wiretaps. He was, in fact, guilty as sin.
So let’s sum up Obama’s Chicago connections. His chief financial supporter was Tony Rezko, now on his way to prison. His spiritual adviser was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, of “God damn America” fame. And the guy who got him his only administrative job is former terrorist Ayers.
Not a good recommendation for a president.
The Boston Herald
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1124922

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Concerned citizen: I have read through the links. I don’t see the word ‘optional’ anywhere in Obama’s plan. In fact, in the second one it states: “Require employers to offer “meaningful” coverage or contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of the public plan; small businesses will be exempt from this requirement.”
And, what is the definition of a “small business”?

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Palin took on big oil in Alaska???? Maybe we should study the facts!!! and while she did refund each Alaskan $1200 she also let big oil raise the price of gas almost $1.00 a gallon..today guess who pays the most for gas in USA??? thats right ALASKA!!! yet with no state tax and import costs they should be paying the least!!!! was a nice political move for those who dont understand corruption…the oil companies just raised their prices and got all the money back PLUS!!!!!

Posted by: McDumb & McDumber | October 11, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

– This nonsense that government should now provide health insurance for all is ridiculous. –
————————————
Say NO to Obama’s “Nationalized Medicine”.
Obama and the fans of his “national healthcare plan” – a lemon – can pack their bags and move to Cuba or North Korea!

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Obama wants to force us all into what he says is right (a tactic of.. hmmm maybe SATAN!). Ha! What a goof! A vote for Obama is a vote for socialism! McCain is not perfect but probably less harmful to normal Americans.
And for all you Demos, Palin is not running for President. It’s McCain remember?

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

– Please don’t make Obama look like a saint in this. It insults the intelligence… –
The charges against Rezko are against Rezko, not Obama, and Obama had no participation in what was being investigated, as even GOP supporters involved in the case are now saying. And I think it admirable for him to take any money that might be tainted and donate it to charity once he found out about it (remember, that article was back in January)

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Who is the REAL Sarah Palin?
Seems she is Bush in Lipstick and a Dress.

Posted by: Sister Joyous Whip Of Enlightenment | October 11, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

“Concerned…” You speak ignorance. No worthwhile charity would accept money that has been obtained illegally, even if the check was written by his worship, Obama.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

– And, what is the definition of a “small business”? –
The cutoff point, used throughout his plan is $250,000 in taxable income. According to IRS data, small businesses earning less than that amount in taxable income represents 97.6%.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

People defending her…yikes! Read the report… no she didn’t commit chargeable crimes or impeachable offenses. BUT she did violate, along with her husband, serious ethics rules. Ethics… you know, that thing that McCain has vowed to bring back into the government. Ethics, a thing that should never be of question is a so-called religious person. Ethics… something we lost so much of during the Bush administration. Yes.. Ethics.

Posted by: Rick_VT | October 11, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Rick_VT, You babble about this like it means something. Palin’s ethics vs Bidens and Obama’s ethics? Get real. the great and powerful Obama is up to his ears in fraud! Biden, read a little about his doings.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

“So many of you pro McCain / Palin folks just don’t want to see the truth here.”
—————————————
We see the truth here! (see link)
(interestingly enough this article comes from Boston MA – a state that Obama lost to Hillary! Hey, not even the endorsement of the Kennedys helped Obama in MA!!!!)
The Boston Herald
Saturday, October 11, 2008
It is what it is: Obama allied with scoundrels
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1124922

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

– And for all you Demos, Palin is not running for President. It’s McCain remember? –
Go visit http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com and see what McCain supported, both in Congress pushing for funding and arms for them, then sitting on the board of an organization who covertly continued doing so after Congress cut off support, subverting the law while he did. And he continues to voice his support, as recently evidenced in the last debate and his statement that he supported the US involvement in Kosovo.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

The charges against Rezko are against Rezko, not Obama, and Obama had no concerned: “participation in what was being investigated, as even GOP supporters involved in the case are now saying. And I think it admirable for him to take any money that might be tainted and donate it to charity once he found out about it (remember, that article was back in January)”
I think you missed something. Obama only did this “admirable gesture” after his name was found out. You give LOADS of credit there, buddy. That’s how Obama has operated since the beginning of time. If someone becomes a problem for him, he changes course and denies association. He’s a very adept chameleon.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Theres a positive here!!! We dont have to worry about seeing Palin addressing important issues that concern Americans..It’s said she will only do interviews with the Bush News network..that way they can show her the question and give her the answer to read from a teleprompter..How dare the media ask such tough questions as..What books or papers do you read???? I can see why she was upset..they should have asked something like..your daughter is getting married on what date??? or is this another of her many lies???

Posted by: McDumb & McDumber | October 11, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

concerned: i want to know what threshhold OBAMA uses for his small business exemption, not what the IRS uses. The $250k he has mentioned did pertain to businesses in anything that I have heard or read.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

“Concerned…” You speak ignorance.
Posted by: Damocles
——————————
Damocles- don’t waste your time – he is a Marxist Moron, like That One!

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

concerned: – my last post got messed up – I’ll try again “The charges against Rezko are against Rezko, not Obama, and Obama had no participation in what was being investigated… And I think it admirable for him to take any money that might be tainted and donate it to charity once he found out about it (remember, that article was back in January)”
I think you missed something. You have got to be joking, no? Obama only did this “admirable gesture” after his name was found out. You give LOADS of credit there, buddy. That’s how Obama has operated since the beginning of time. If someone becomes a problem for him, he changes course and denies association. He’s a very adept chameleon.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

concerned: another correction (sigh) i want to know what threshhold OBAMA uses for his small business exemption, not what the IRS uses. The $250k he has mentioned did NOT pertain to businesses in anything that I have heard or read.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Speakin’ of chameleons, Sarah Palin changes her accent at will. Not a single droppin’ of her G’s when she addressed and God blessed the secessionist AIP.

Posted by: Rudy | October 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

“Concerned…” Kosovo! You are grasping at air. You wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the nose. Obama has accomplished nothing. biden has been a stifling factor for 30 years! Biden used his wife and child’s deaths for personal gain. Don’t spout crap!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

Ah but Damocles… it is McCain & Palin that are throwing all the “first” stones here. They are the ones casting themselves as self-righteous judges of all others. They are the ones in the self-anointed roles of the keepers of Christian values. I never said the other side is pure as snow but McCaian and Palin parodies of their own claims.

Posted by: Rick_VT | October 11, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Rick_VT, You must be kidding! You are delusional! There is no hope for Democrats so entrenched in believing the BS of headlines! read the whole story. Not just one source but all of them!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Go visit http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com blah blah blah – the US involvement in Kosovo.
Posted by: Concerned American
————————————-
I bet that you are from Greece!!!
I see that you are quite good at “cut and paste” Goofy!
I have seen this comment in other blogs! (stop giving lessons to others Goofy!) And, please provode links of your sources. (stop plagiarizing like Joe Biden!)

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Natasha, AMEN!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

McFossil and McPuppet have Christian values??…is leaving your wife in a wheelchair so you can have an adulterous affair with a millionaire beer heiress the values they preach?? is raising a teenage daughter to have a child out of wedlock the values they preach?? she could act like her mother and have a shotgun wedding could she not?? and talk about changing stances..thanks but no thanks?? McFossil changes everyday..Im not leaving Washington until the bailout is settled!!!!!! I will not be at debate unless agreement made!!!! oh well too many to type..those who live in 7 glass houses with a couple of jets and 13 cars shouldnt cast stones!!! but to them that’s the middle class American!! I seem to be 12 cars short!!!!

Posted by: McDumb & McDumber | October 11, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

rick: “Ethics, a thing that should never be of question is a so-called religious person. Ethics… something we lost so much of during the Bush administration. Yes.. Ethics.”
Yes, ethics. Yeah, these names certainly come to mind when we think of “Ethics”: Rezko, Ayers, Rev. Wright, Daly…

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

McDumb, you are as your name implies…

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

McDumb, do you know who McCain is married to? I think they can afford as many cars as they want. People who have money, inherited or not, seem to lust after that money. Hence the Obama Plan. Take from those who have and give it to those who don’t. Sounds like socialism to me. But hey, you might get an extra grand a year voting for the big O.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

This presentation is a must see for all left-wing-liberal media morons and everybody that reads this blog.
A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Should have read…. McDumb, do you know who McCain is married to? I think they can afford as many cars as they want. People who have money, inherited or not, seem to get those who do not have money to lust after their fortune. Hence the Obama Plan. Take from those who have and give it to those who don’t. Sounds like socialism to me. But hey, you might get an extra grand a year voting for the big O.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

I know, let’s ask Obama if he is familiar with the “Chicago Machine”.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

I know. Let’s ask Obama what important piece of legislation he was responsible for getting passed. Key word is ‘important’ here.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

I know. Let’s ask Obama if he has ever run a business of any sort.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Being a middle class American I dont have to worry about having 7 glass houses rest assured! Its all I can do to afford my single house and one car..but I can see why we should have tax cuts but only for the wealthy..look how many jobs it has created..lolol..NONE.the rich get richer..poor get poorer..middle class takes it up the ***..and for all the Palin (Mrs.Ethics) supporters I issue you a challenge..can you name just ONE other Gov. that charged their taxpayers a per diem for being home on Sunday??? I couldnt find one..their excuse..shes on call 24 hrs a day..lmaoooo..I guess everyone is! and here I thought being on home on Sundays with your family was family values!!! I didnt realize it was at taxpayers expense..will be waiting to hear your list of other Governors who charge taxpayers to stay home on SUNDAYS to be with family…post away!!!!

Posted by: McDumb & McDumber | October 11, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

I know. Let’s ask Obama if he was ever responsible for getting grants for his developer buddy Ayers to build projects, that have now already been condemned.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

– concerned: i want to know what threshhold OBAMA uses for his small business exemption, not what the IRS uses. The $250k he has mentioned did pertain to businesses in anything that I have heard or read. –
The threshold is dependent upon industry, Size Regulations are contained in Title 13 of the Code of Federal Regulations, part 121 (13 CFR §121).
Here is a good link for you regarding small business size and regulations on them:
http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/sizestandardstopics/size/index.html
You may also want to view the following document regarding small businesses and Obamas plan:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/documents/mclooneblog/FactSheetSmallBusinessFinal.pdf

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

I know. Let’s ask Obama if it is true that he sat in church every week for 20 years under a radical racist reverand, but denies he never heard such ‘rhetoric’ as the reverand so recently spoke.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

I know. Let’s ask Obama if he was responsible for getting grants for the company where his wife worked, and the next year she received a HUGE increase in pay…

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

concerned: I know what the IRS defines as a small business. I want to know what Obama defines as a small business. That is a little detail that I happen to care about. I wouldnt sign a contract to buy anything without reading the fine print. Pretty ambiguous as it stands, don’t you think? But I do appreciate the info. I just don’t believe Obama is on the same page.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

– I know. Let’s ask Obama what important piece of legislation he was responsible for getting passed. Key word is ‘important’ here. –
“Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.”
There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Let ‘em all fire each other, its politics, who cares. For those interested, it shows another glimpse into the REAL PALIN.
What bothers me is her great ability to generate such a mean division of people for her own agenda (recently like abortion).
Pit bull? Wolf may be a better description. Save the wolves – sure… but don’t let ‘em govern.

Posted by: HeyYou | October 11, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Come on REPUBLICRITES!!! Post the list of Governors who charge the taxpayers to stay home on Sundays with their families…is McPuppet the only one???? I will have to check tomorrow its time to head out..maybe I can find a millionaire heiress to bed tonight..but before you throw stones..understand I dont have a wife in a wheelchair raising my 3 kids!!! thats your candidate McFossil..putting family values first McDumb & McDumber 08!

Posted by: McDumb & McDumber | October 11, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Let ‘em all fire each other, its politics, who cares. For those interested, it shows another glimpse into the REAL PALIN.
What bothers me is her great ability to generate such a mean division of people for her own agenda (recently like abortion).
Pit bull? Wolf may be a better description. Save the wolves – sure… but don’t let ‘em govern.

Posted by: HeyYou | October 11, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

– I just don’t believe Obama is on the same page. –
The definition of small business is what is defined by law, as I pointed out, and Obamas definition is the same as McCains. That was not the IRS, but the US Small Business Administration which regulates them and the Federal Code that defines them.
However, judging from your recent posts, it appears you have no real intention at looking at the candidates platforms, and your queries were not indeed genuine.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

those of us who supported Sen. Hillary Clinton must remember that the persecution of women is something we must not let go rewarded.

Posted by: Clintonite for McCain | October 11, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

“And thankfully the truth was revealed there in that report that showed there was no unlawful or unethical activity on my part.”
Put the crack pipe down, Sarah. Put the crack pipe down.

Posted by: Rudy | October 11, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

concerned: You are incorrect, as I am quite interested in the candidates platforms. I think the problem is that I don’t trust Obama. Not that I necessarily trust any politician, including McCain. But Obama is much too slippery for me. There are 4 people we are looking at, and there is one that has many recent associations which he continuously denies. Or, he throws them to the curb when questioned. I don’t like that kind of person, and I don’t trust that kind of person. Not to mention that he was simply plucked from obscurity and has accomplished so very little. He is junior senator. Someone mentioned the federal checkbook online. Big whoop. Sorry… just my opinion here

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

PALIN is unethical & dumb. Talk about calling the kettle black, she use her power to fired someone. Not even blinking an eye, that man has a family to. You guys keep on harping on sitting in a church for 20yr and bill Ayers, etc, just keep it coming. But don’t say a damn thing when we all be sitting under Dumb Dora’s bridge to nowhere,

Posted by: Sherrie | October 11, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Palin’s lapse in ethics is a distraction It may force her to abandon her Nuremberg-style hate rallies for inciting fear and racism where she demonstrates that women can now be Black Shirts in a national campaign. She has the nerve to ask if we really know Obama whose record has been subject to intense scrutiny by the electorate, by Clinton as well as McCain for nearly two years. She, on the other hand, is a complete neophyte who burst onto the national scene six weeks ago. We really don’t know her at all. Troopergate is clearly a national issue only because of the poor judgment of McCain who took a wild gamble on her. Despite her earlier appeal to some, she is not paying off for McCain except as a rabble rouser for the extreme right. She is a flash-in-the-pan best left in Alaska

Posted by: jefflz | October 11, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

– Yes, ethics. Yeah, these names certainly come to mind when we think of “Ethics”: Rezko, Ayers, Rev. Wright, Daly… –
And yet you pay no attention to names like US Council for World Freedom, World Anti-Communist League and their neo-Nazi founders with ties to death squads in Latin America, Albanian American Citizens League and their praise of support by McCain for the Kosovo Liberation Army, , or such things as the Islamic Militants revolving around the Iran-contra scandal and overthrow of the Nicaraguan government, the tortures, beatings, church burnings and ethnic cleansing performed by those groups, and turn a blind eye to covert activities and circumvention of the law supporting those activities. All directly and willingly linked to McCain in both legislation pushed in Congress by him, and well documented in history.
I would rather vote for someone who sat on the board of a charitable organization that happened to have on it a ‘terrorist’ of 40 years past, than one who sat on the board of an organization that directly supported terrorist activities, and circumvented the law in order to covertly do so.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

you know, it seems the only talk about Palin involves “Troopergate”. Everyone knows that this kind of thing goes on in politics, corporations, you name it. And it’s not like the guy was a shining example by any means. He was a scum. Okay, so she had some pull and used it. Obama has had NUMEROUS issues and associations… NUMEROUS. He’s had pull and used it. In the Chicago Machine, he had the associations he did because they could help advance him politically. So what is so honorable about that?? You sound like parrots repeating the same thing over and over. Why do you believe Obama and not Palin? Why would you believe one candidate over another? What’s your basis? You think one is a liar and one isnt? Perhaps they’re both liars. How do you know and who made you the judge??

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

concerned: suit yourself

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

msa123–Don’t fall for the “universal healthcare is gerat for everybody” that the dems like to push. The truth is small business will be hurt by Obama’s healthcare plan. It is going to be a pay or play system. Employers will have to join or pay a payroll tax fund. The employers will find a way to off set the costs by raising prices on their services, lowering wages, reducing future wage increases, benefits, pensions and hire fewer employees. The low skilled workers will be the most affected.
Let’s not even talk about all the people who will be out of a job that work for these medical insurance companies.
The small businesses will also suffer under the $250,000 magic number Obama has set for taxes.
So under Obama’s plan you may not have enough money to eat or pay rent, but by God he will make sure you have a crappy health care plan.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

Honestly I think this sounds like someone is out to settle a vendetta against her.

Posted by: reality801 | October 11, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

msa123–you’re right. At least Palin and McCain have a record we can go by, Obama has nothing but his word. Why should we believe him? He has not proven himself, All we’ve gotten from him or flip-flops and terrorist and criminal associations.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Thanks, S Adams. I thought it was something like that. Otherwise, too many would still be left without insurance. Anyhow, I still don’t agree that businesses should be forced to cover people’s insurance. I don’t know where that crazy concept came from. It used to just be a ‘benefit offered’. Mandatory? No thanks. Concerned is obviously not a business owner.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Liberals have a very short memory span!
Liberals are the biggest bigots and liars!
Why do you think they always bring up the religious and racist remarks, because they have no morals because they don’t believe in GOD, and are actually the racist they speak of, just watch their hate an anger spew with gibberish! What typical bray’s they are!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Concerned–Where did you get your information on all the “supposed” organizations McCain is “suppose” to have been linked to? Obama’s is well documented.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

S Adams: “So under Obama’s plan you may not have enough money to eat or pay rent, but by God he will make sure you have a crappy health care plan.”
So eloquently to the point! Well said

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

MSA SAID: Perhaps they’re both liars. How do you know and who made you the judge??
PLEASE SEE HTTP://THOMAS.LOC.GOV/
TO SEE WHAT EACH CANDIDATE HAS SPONSORED IN LEGISLATION THIS SESSION. MCCAIN FOCUSES ON WAR, OBAMA FOCUSES ON AMERICANS
THEN GO TO THE ILLINOIS SENATE AND LOOK AT WHAT LEGISLATION OBAMA SPONSORED AND YOU WILL SEE THE SAME PATTERN: HTTP://WWW.ILGA.GOV/previousga.asp
IT IS OBVIOUS WHAT OBAMA STANDS FOR AND HAS DONE FOR AMERICANS. THANK YOU.

Posted by: DillWeed | October 11, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Whats you’re point concerned.
you named groups, no names, with no connections, you just think that those are connections to the right.
its the typical liberal conspiracy theories, with no proof to back any of it up!
Intelligence can be an effective weapon when needed, but to continually use it in improper ways, it back fires all the time, that’s a fact jack, and you and Obama are an example of that.
go back and recoup a comment of actual substance you ornery gaiety gaffe!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

And concerned-The huffington Post and Daily Kos do not count, I looked up some of these organizations that link McCain, they are all liberal websites.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

liberals intelligence cannot expand past the Hollywood movie set, where all these theories are brought to their dim light!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

This report is bogus!!! You do not mention she was found to have abused her position as Governor by pressuring to have her brother inlaw fired. Firing Police Commissioner was within her right, but his firing was result of her brother inlaw Wooten issue. Other reasons also existed. She approved of letting this happen..She violated ethic law. Verdict – She abused her power. Do write a mor accuratte account!! Not Palin’s version. I have watched this legislative investigation since she was first selected. She has lied, lied, with held information, etc. This investigation did not even get all the information they requested. Why?? Palin refused to produce. Hardly any emails turned over for the investigation. But still legislature found abuse of power existed – 100% approved release of report to public. This was totally bipartisan – was not Obama. Republicans far outnumbered Democrats in Alaska. Sarah Palins just lost – judge just ordered Palin, her administration they must preserve all emails – and all the private account emails used to avoid Public Records Act. Sarah Palin herself has blocked Alaska investigation every step of the way. She lost in court and lost at appeal level also. McCain and Palin are liars!! Sad – but is true!! Now we wait for the law suits!!! Whether Alaska punishes her?? Report off to next department. Sarah is guilty. She did same as Mayor of Wasilla. And she was almost recalled. Had to rehire librarian, police chief sued city. Police chief would have won because of an employment contract, but prior mayor had forgotten to pass through city council. Prior mayor had felt lis attorney document written by city attorney would hold up in court. It did not. Judge declared only reason why he lost. Palin is a dictator. Residents of Wasilla are careful not to be her enemy as backlash is huge. This lady can fool people for awhile, but they are learning in Alaska.

Posted by: Sharonklim | October 11, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

“Well, I’m very very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.”
Put the crack pipe down, Sarah. Put it down now!

Posted by: Rudy | October 11, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

So much vitriol from both sides. Can’t we sit down and talk about the issues like grown ups. Every time I hear negative ads I score a point for the opposite team. The more you rage, the worse you seem.
The truth is that republicans and democrats are not really all that different in this country. Go see how different political parties are in other countries — they make us seem like a one party state.
So would you all just SHUT UP with your screaming and talk about the real issues for once.

Posted by: middle | October 11, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

sharon – just like clinton?!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Hey Dillweed–I guess McCain wasn’t looking out for the American people when he wrote the letter to Frist, the Majority Leader and Shelby, the Chairman of the Banking and Housing for Urban Affairs Committee, on May 5, 2006, warning that something needed to be done with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac because it was at risk of failing and hurting millions of home owners. He was vilified by the Democrats in the Senate and called an alarmist. Of course, we know now that they were taking contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama getting the 2nd highest amount in the least amount of time. How was Obama looking out for the American people?

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Alot of the “work” Obama did in the Illinois Senate is really the work of Emil Jones. It is common knowledge Obama was given credit for bills he never even worked on in an attempt to help advance his career.

Posted by: reality801 | October 11, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

it’s kind of hard when the other side is shouting even louder with ignorant comments.
and you should not be voting on the basis of others comments, but your own by you’re own choice, CONSCIENCE, which is something Obama has a problem with!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

S Adams: It seems that only smart people can catch on to Nobama’s Universal Healthcare and the magical $250K tax break. When we are all unemployeed waiting on a government check and standing in long lines at the doctors office we can thank Nobama.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

– Concerned–Where did you get your information on all the “supposed” organizations McCain is “suppose” to have been linked to? Obama’s is well documented. –
So is McCains, in legislature and biographical books such as those on Oliver North. Just for starters, here is a report by Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/10/07/ap5522185.html
and here is a link to the KLA that he supported (warning, graphic images of the aftermath of their activities):
http://www.kosovoliberationarmy.com/
And here is a congressional white paper describing their concerns about the KLA and it’s terrorist and criminal drug ties:
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/fr033199.htm

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Obama = CORRUPT CHICAGO POWER POLITCAL MACHINE!
Most Americans never heard of it, or their actual doings, which are so unethical it’s pathetic, but the liberals never want to touch that subject, because they know it will destroy any politician on their side.
that’s why the FBI is so involved with investigations into political and business corruption in Chicago!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

THE PALIEN…
SHE LOOKED HUMAN BUT…
HAD THOUSANDS OF BABIES…
THEN ATE THE US CONSTITUTION…
PALIEN COMING TO GOP THEATERS NEAR YOU
PRODUCED BY MCCAIN / HITLER, INC.

Posted by: CHUCK | October 11, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

– guess McCain wasn’t looking out for the American people when he wrote the letter to Frist, the Majority Leader and Shelby, the Chairman of the Banking and Housing for Urban Affairs Committee, on May 5, 2006, warning that something needed to be done with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac –
Claim: McCain championed legislation that would have prevented the current financal meltdown and the Democrats killed it
Fact: False/Misleading
In his September 19th speach in Arlington, VA., Sen. McCain states:
“Two years ago, I called for reform of this corruption at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress did nothing. Senator Obama did nothing, and actually profited from this system of abuse and scandal”
What he is referring to is a Senate bill (S.190[109th] Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005) which was originally authored by Sen. Charles Hagel and co-sponsored by Sen. Sununu and Sen. Dole. It was not until after a 2006 Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight Report to Congress outlining problems with the two organizations that Sen. McCain decided to add his name to the bill as a co-sponsor. The bill never made it out of committee (Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs), which was at the time controlled by a
Republican majority and chaired by Republican Senator Richard Shelby. The statement about Congress and Sen. Obama doing nothing is true, but misleading, since there was nothing that they could have done until the bill came to the floor of the Senate, which it never did.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

–Of course, we know now that they were taking contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama getting the 2nd highest amount in the least amount of time –
Claim: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac gave Obama large campaign contributions, second only to Senator Dodd.
Fact: Partially true but misleading
Reality:
It is true that, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, the second highest recipient of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac contributions is Obama. However, these are from individuals who work for these companies, not the companies themselves (which would be illegal). Top spot is Sen. Chris Dodd with $165,400, with Obama being number two with $126,349. McCain has received $21,500.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html
Interestingly, if you look at contributions from Fannie and Freddies boards of directors and lobbyists, who are technically not employees, McCain has received a total of $169,000 and Obama has received $16,000. Combined, McCain has actually received more funding ($190,550) than Obama ($142,349) from these financial giants.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.html
For additional information, see:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/727/

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

Anchorage Daily News: Governor, finding No.1 on the report was that you abused your power by violating state law. Do you think you did anything wrong at all in this Troopergate case?
Palin: Not at all and I’ll tell you, it, I think that you’re always going to ruffle feathers as you do what you believe is in the best interest of the people whom you are serving.
Todd, can’t you get her to give up the pipe?

Posted by: Rudy | October 11, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Obama step down before the Federal Court rules against you!
ONLY AMERICANS IN OUR WHITE HOUSE !!!
Read: case UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE, :
Plaintiff :
vs. :CIVIL ACTION NO: 08-cv- 04083
:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, ET AL, :
Obama produce your;
1. “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version)
Birth Certificate
2. A certified copy of Certification of Citizenship;
3. A Certified copy of Oath of Allegiance.
http://www.obamacrimes.com
Honesty is the Best policy!

Posted by: steve in JAX | October 11, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

mccainpres08–Yeah after the long line at the Dr’s office, we can all go stand in line together at the welfare office.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

concerned: The problem is, you are looking for negative McCain’s and positive Obama’s. You don’t mention any positives for McCain or negatives for Obama. You and I both know this can’t be so… that one is a saint and the other the devil himself. I will tell you that McCain is not my favorite person. But again, I am going by character and experience. McCain is far from perfect and has voted on some issues where I disagree. But someone or some group has propelled Obama to where he is at today – it was certainly not by his own doing. McCain has a record of accomplishments, Obama does not. Obama has a trail of associations with ex-cons and radicals in a VERY SHORT political career. He is simply no different than the rest. I think your own conscience is crying out for justification, so you turn your head to Obama’s connections and dealings. No one gets a job like he wants that fast. No one. Think about it.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

– Yeah after the long line at the Dr’s office, we can all go stand in line together at the welfare office. –
Funny that health insurance coverage hasn’t done that in the past.. and if your doctor is overbooked, you are indeed free to go to another doctor you know.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

S Adams-better be careful how you use the word welfare. Some people will think you are implying ALL Obama supporters are on welfare. I caught that crap earlier.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Concerned–the difference being that Obama took funds over a 4 year period and McCain over 26 years.
Fannie Mae gave to Democrats 57% of the time and gave Dems more $$$$$.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

I took S Adams comment to mean that welfare would be the preferable route under an Obama presidency. I’ve considered it myself. It sounds like a really good deal.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

concerned: “Funny that health insurance coverage hasn’t done that in the past.. and if your doctor is overbooked, you are indeed free to go to another doctor you know.”
That is because we don’t have national health care. That is why Canadians come to the US because they don’t have to wait for surgeries and the like. Check out the health care system in Canada… wikipedia if you’d like.
And still, I have this issue with the notion that employers must pay for employees health care. That just doesn’t seem reasonable. WHY should they?? I don’t follow your reasoning on that. WHY do employers OWE health benefits to their employees?

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

I think the political persecution of Gov. Palin proves that she is every bit the Maverick John McCain is, the antithesis of a Miss Congeniality, the Washington insider with absolutely no Washington friends because he party poops the party and allows no one, neither Democrat nor Republican, to engage in the self-serving cronyism that brings the pork home and corrupt CEOs like Franklin Reines and Jim Johnson to go from embezzeling retirement savings to advising Presidential campaigns by stuffing their tip-jars unopposedly.

Posted by: Clintonite for McCain | October 11, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Concerned–We’ve never had a socialized medical plan before. If you have an HMO with your Dr, you have to go to the Dr the insurance will cover, if you have a PPO, you can go to any Dr. The problem with Socialized medicine, is that it will be set up like the medicaid system Not all Dr’s will take medicaid because they will recieve way less for their services. The govt will do the same thing. Dr’s can choose to take cash, or an insurance health care plan only. We have a greater population than say, Canada, and even there, their socialized medicine has limits. They can tell you that after getting cancer for the 3rd time and being 65 years old, they are no longer going to cover you. It happened to someone in Canada and she had to go across the border to the United States to get treatment.
Socialized health care or medicaid providers give inferior service than health insurance.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

S Adams: Again, well said. Socialized healthcare is not all that it’s cracked up to be… there is no good system out there. There are pros and cons to all. Certainly, it should not have anything to do with employers. If the government wants to pay for healthcare for all, let them – provided they have money trees growing somewhere. But don’t put it on the employer’s backs. That is a sleight of hand in the plan that no one notices because the average American is looking at “gee look we can all get healthcare paid by our employers, isnt that great?!” Although their co-worker will have just lost his job because the employer can’t afford to pay for everyone’s PERSONAL HEALTH CARE.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

– The problem is, you are looking for negative McCain’s and positive Obama’s. –
That seems to be the GOP campaign motto.. negative ads instead of issues..
– But again, I am going by character and experience –
Which ignores the issues. You can have all the character and experience in the world and still be an idiot. And I do question McCains character, not just in judgment, but in motives and his past actions (have you read his book?).
If the platforms were reversed, I would vote for McCain, although hesitantly due to Palin, and hope that he didn’t kick the bucket before the end of his term.
McCain in 2000 had a tax platform that mirrors Obama and critized Bush for his cuts for the wealthy. In 2008, he has reversed course and now pushes the same tried and failed tax policy of Bush. Here is one of his comments about taxes back in 2000:
JIM LEHRER: There was a suggestion today from some of Governor Bush’s supporters that maybe you’re not really a true blue Republican, that some of the things you support like campaign finance reform and your opposition to tax cuts are more like Gore and Bradley and Clinton and Democrats than Republican.
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: Well, I’m much more like Ronald Reagan, actually, than the present hierarchy of our party. I’m for tax cuts, but I’m for working Americans. Governor Bush wants to give 38 percent of his tax cuts to the wealthiest 1 percent. I want to give it to working families.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/jan-june00/mccain_2-2.html
I’ve looked at each ones health plans, and Obamas is better for America and Americans. Not only will it increase coverage for Americans, but will spur economic growth, and currently, uninsured health care is placing a strain on our economy.
Obamas foreign policy stance mirrors that of what even the 5 former secretary of states have suggested, and would have a far better chance of restoring the damage done over the last 8 years by Bush. McCain has a similar stance to Bush, although even more so towards military involvement. Here is what he said in 2000 about when it would be appropriate to use our armed forces:
LEHRER: .. when should the United States deploy its armed forces abroad, and what criteria should be used? Are you comfortable with the decision-making that would – that a Bush-Cheney- Powell triumvirate would make?
McCAIN: Yes. I’m extremely comfortable and basically it’s when American interests and values are threatened. And sometimes when our values are threatened, over time our interests can be threatened. I can’t make an argument to you that Kosovo posed an immediate threat to our national interest. But I can argue that it offended our values to a degree that if allowed to go unchecked, then unrestrained, once Milosevic started to do his ethnic cleansing, then sooner or later our interest would be threaten because that same kind of scenario would transpire in other places in Europe.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/july-dec00/mccain_8-1.html
I fully support closing the enron loophole, which Obama wants done asap, and would provide an immediate drop in our gas prices, which has caused prices of almost everything to rise from food to airfare. McCain simply says that congress is investigating it, yet fails to realize that Congress has already tried to push legislation this year which would have closed it, and Bush vetoed both times.
And I also consider intelligence and reason, particularly in light of Bushs apparent lack of either. Recent events have shown that Obama had the composure and rational to make informed and carefully thought out decisions, while McCain has put his foot in his mouth several times simply because he tends to over-react and comes up with knee-jerk responses.
I’m not looking for negatives, I’m looking for positives, and those positives keep coming out on Obamas side. And those positives provide a better chance for this country to regain itself and turn in the right direction.. a direction that will be the first step in a very long journey to dig out from what the last 8 years has done.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Democrats are scared to death of Palin because she is the outsider and will stand up to corruption. Palin and McCain will expose all that is wrong in Washington….Frank, Dodd, etc.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Concerned–No health care plan is foolproof. They are all going to cost money. I realize that there are 47 million people without coverage. I’m not saying to not do anything about the problem, but Obama’s is a social program, forcing to people to join whether you like the plan or not. McCain’s gives people a choice by giving $2500 to individuals and $5000 for families to offset the costs. You are not stuck with whatever insurance your employer provides but can even go across state lines. This will provide more competition among the insurance companies, making it more affordable to everyone. But Obama’s plan is not without merit, people whose employers do not provide insurance can benefit, just not at the cost of lost jobs. Maybe an expanded Medicaid plan would work for individuals without children. Currently in my state, you only qualify for benefits if you have a child under 18.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

October Surprise
“$100,000 of Alaska taxpayers money wasted on “HollisFrenchGate”!”
Conlusion:
Gov. has right to fire anyone for any reason. Everybody already know that.
Gov. Palin family tried to get Safety Commisionser to provide safety for her family members under threat by a trooper.
What is unethical or unlawful about that? She gained nothing financially.
Life, safety, equality and pursuit of happiness are unallienated constitutional rights of ALL citizens even the Govenor relatives!
Because the case shows they are being unfair to a 10yo. boy, women, elderly parent under threat.
More reason to reject “baby killers” like Hollis French, Obama or Biden.

Posted by: Reuel | October 11, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/09/1525564.aspx
I’m trying to figure out what to make of this article that appeared for about an hour on msnbc home page. wth??

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

I am one of the 47 million without insurance and I do NOT want a universal healthcare plan. I do not want the govt telling me which doctor I can see and when.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 11, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

Concerned only likes Obama’s health care plan, because it’s another government hand out, with little out of his own pockets!
Which means it comes out of heavily tax burdened Americans pocket.
And it’s not about waiting in line you idiot. Wait your turn in line idiot, it’s what you call respect and doing the right thing.
I don’t understand liberals comments about waiting in line, it’s like they think everybody should get out of their way because they hurt their knee and should not have to wait, I call that selfishness!
Tax dollars would go to education by actually educating our kids the right
way, not by indoctrinating them with radical government philosophies, which is what Ayers and Obama were and are still doing in Chicago.
You go to the majority of school’s and Universities throughout the states, all you see is the majority of kids being so disrespectful to each other and their elders. Just look what they are doing to McCain about his age. Yet Obama can’t do no wrong, LOL! That’s what I call and see as TRUE INDOCTRINATION AT IT’S PEAK, you can see and smell the stench from the left, just like Obama’s plane!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

– Socialized health care or medicaid providers give inferior service than health insurance. –
Are the Senators in Congress participating in socialized health care? I believe you just haven’t bothered taking a look:
Obamas plan:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
McCains plan:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm
Side by side summary:
http://www.health08.org/FINAL%202%20CANDIDATES%20Side-By-Side%20July%2022.pdf

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

concerned: Yes, as a matter of fact I have read McCain’s book, as well as both of Obama’s. I was trying to figure out who Obama really is. Unfortunately, it was still a blur after both books. Obama may have some good ideas (or his handlers do) but the problem is, that he cannot be trusted. He tells half truths, just like in his book. And McCain is not Bush. And it’s not fair to say that he is. There are many people in the current administration that are not ‘Bush’. McCain went along with his party, just like Obama has done 95% of the time. Where is the difference? Except that Obama has done nothing of significance whatsoever to make me believe he’s capable of following through on any of his promises. Nothing. Nada. AND, he lies about his connections and associations. He never associated with anyone that was questionable! And yet the record shows he clearly has! Why can’t he just level with the American people?? If he’d just level, I think alot of people might feel differently. He just calls himself a bonehead or whatever. The truth is, if he told the truth, his career would be over, wouldn’t it?

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

She needs to step down, I don’t want a possibility of another Vice President Cheney in the White House! She has to go!

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Concerned, you must not listen to the liberal media bias BS coming from liberal channels, you know which one’s I’m talking about. That’s why we point out you liberals turn a blind eye on your candidate, but act on the others candidate with that BS.
We talk about the issue’s just as much, but actually more, than you lefties. Your the one’s always bringing up the race factor and this Republican did this or that.
Then we point out the opposite, then the only thing you idiots can ever say is, why can’t you just talk about the issues, WHAT THE HELL!
It’s like a damn merry-go-round with you people. You must have a very short memory span, or you liberals are just conceded self-centered people!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

msa123–that is very interesting info coming suprisingly from the National Barack Channel-msNBC.
I son’t think the Obama supporters are taking the Muslim connection very seriously, especially the young people who do not remember such things as:
1. 1968-Bobby Kennedy was shot by a muslim extremist.
2. Munich Olympics-athletes were kidnapped and murdered by Muslim extremists.
3. 1979 U.S. Embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim Extremists.
4. 1983-U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by muslim extremists.
5. 1985 Cruise ship Achille Lauro a 70 yr old disabled american was murdered by Muslim Extremists
6. 1985- TWA flight 847, hijacked at Athens, a US Navy diver was murdered by Muslim extremists.
7. 1988 Pan Am Flight 103 bombed by Muslim extremists.
8. 1998-US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim Extremists
9. Let’s not forget 9/11, those were Muslim extremists.
This is why it is dangerous that Obama has so many ties to Muslim organizations and sympathizers like Ayers.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

McCain was involved with Charles Keating which turned into a huge scandal that cost tax payer money with the help of McCain and now Palin abused her power. We do not need another Bush Cheney presidency! It’s time for real change!

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

McCain was involved with Charles Keating which turned into a huge scandal that cost tax payer money with the help of McCain and now Palin abused her power. We do not need another Bush Cheney presidency! It’s time for real change!

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

– Concerned only likes Obama’s health care plan, because it’s another government hand out, with little out of his own pockets! –
Not a free ride, not a hand out.. people will still have to pay for it.
Guess that is why the Wall Street Journal considers it better than McCains plan, even though, just like his tax plan, it simply favors the wealthy:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122152292213639569.html
– Which means it comes out of heavily tax burdened Americans pocket. –
Nope, most americans would receive a larger tax cut under Obama than under McCain (where you won’t see a cut unless you earn over $100,000).
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/
– Yet Obama can’t do no wrong –
I’ll take your word on that one.. I have seen him do some things that I considered wrong, such as admit the surge worked when even Gen. Paetraus and US ambassador Hooker claimed that, while violence had gone down, the objective of buying time for the political process to take hold did not work, and that a lot of the reduction in violence would have taken place anyway, albeit slower, if the surge never happened. Here is some congressional testimony before the Armed Forces committee that you might be interested in reading:
http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT314/index.html

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

kathy: I just have to say something. It seems so many have fallen for Obama’s rhetoric that you sound like parrots repeating your owner’s words.
There is only one Cheney and one Bush and they’re about to go. There’s a whole administration there, that is not ‘Bush’. There are probably quite a few there who don’t much care for either one but can’t admit it yet or they’d lose their lofty jobs. Can you come up with something a little more original than that, and please if I hear the word ‘erratic’ one more time, I will buy you a parrot so you don’t have to keep repeating Obama’s words. You can think for yourself, and let the parrot do the chattering!

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

There is no muslim connection, give it up! And watch the McCain-Palin Mob video on U tube and if you’re like those people you should be ashamed of yourself!

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

J–Lol–Amen. If you go against Obama you are racist. They just see the man as their Messiah, the chosen one and are blinded by the social positions he is pushing that will cripple the country even more than it is. Be careful when you wish for change, the change may not be what you are hoping for.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

It’s not rhetoric, those are facts McCain was helping Charles Keating, look it up on CNN fact check, and you will also find that Palin did abuse her power, there is a 200+ page report that says so.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

kathy: have you ever been near a ‘mob scene’ that was being filmed? Do you realize how very few people it takes to create what looks like a real ‘mob scene’ on film? Just don’t believe everything you see on the tube dear. And where did the talk about muslim come from? you brought it up i guess.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Barack Obama will bring real change and the right change!

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Kathy – africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/senator-barack-obama-in-kenya-obama-and-odinga-the-true-story/
Sorry, I don’t cut and paste like Concerned!
Rashid Khalidi, hmmm, I wonder who he is, hmmm?!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

concerned–I am well aware of what each candidate’s health care plan is. You are not seriously suggesting that the washinton elites health care plan will be open to the over 300 million Americans . There is not enough money on God’s green earth, mars or the moon to cover that.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

“Off with his head!”

Posted by: Mild-mannered Republican | October 11, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

kathy: keating is very old news. is that truly all you’ve got on him? and Palin abusing her power in dealing with a scumbag officer employed by the state? It’s not like he didn’t do anything. Tasering his stepson? I don’t care if the kid begged, you don’t do that. I seriously don’t have a problem with it myself. I would have done the same thing – principles come first in my book.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

New York Times Trashes Obama’s Health Care Plan
Health Plan From Obama Spurs Debate
By KEVIN SACK
It is one of the most audacious promises in a campaign that has been thick with them.
In speech after speech, Senator Barack Obama has vowed that he will lower the country’s health care costs enough to “bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.” Moreover, Mr. Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has promised that his health plan will be in place “by the end of my first term as president of the United States.”
Whether Mr. Obama can deliver is a matter of considerable dispute among health analysts and economists. While there is consensus that the American health care system is bloated with waste, eliminating enough to save $2,500 per family would require simultaneous and synergistic solutions to a host of problems that have proved intractable for decades.
Even if the next president and Congress can muster the political will, analysts question whether significant savings would materialize in as little as four years, or even in 10. But as Mr. Obama confronts an electorate that is deeply unsettled by escalating health costs, he is offering a precise “chicken in every pot” guarantee based on numbers that are largely unknowable. Furthermore, it is not completely clear what he is promising.
His words about lowering “premiums” by $2,500 for the average family of four have been fairly consistent. But the health policy advisers who formulated the figure say it actually represents the average family’s share of savings not only in premiums paid by individuals, but also in premiums paid by employers and in tax-supported health programs like Medicare and Medicaid.
“What we’re trying to do,” said one of the advisers, David M. Cutler, in explaining the gap between Mr. Obama’s words and his intent, “is find a way to talk to people in a way they understand.”
The original arithmetic was somewhat basic. In May 2007, three Harvard professors who are unpaid advisers to the Obama campaign — Mr. Cutler, David Blumenthal and Jeffrey Liebman — produced a memorandum offering their “best guess” that a menu of changes would produce savings of at least $200 billion a year (it has since been revised to $214 billion). That would amount to about 8 percent of the $2.5 trillion in health care spending projected for 2009, when the next president takes office.
The memorandum attributed specific savings to several broad initiatives, with the numbers plucked from recent studies. Investments in computerized medical records would save $77 billion a year, the advisers wrote. Reducing administrative costs in the insurance industry would yield up to $46 billion. Improving prevention programs and chronic disease management would be worth $81 billion.
The total savings were then divided by the country’s population, multiplied for a family of four, and rounded down slightly to a number that was easy to grasp: $2,500. The average cost of family coverage bought through an employer was $12,106 in 2007, with workers paying $3,281 of that amount, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health research group.
Mr. Obama aspires to cover the country’s 47 million uninsured by requiring insurers to accept all comers, regardless of their health status, and by providing generous tax credits to low-income workers. The tax credits could be used to buy into a new federal health plan or private plans marketed through a government exchange.
The subsidies are expensive, estimated at well over $100 billion. Other components of the Obama plan also bear up-front costs, like a pledge to spend $50 billion over five years to speed the computerization of health records, $6 billion a year on tax credits to small businesses that provide coverage to workers, and an unspecified amount to buffer businesses from high-cost insurance claims.
The source Mr. Obama has identified to pay for them — the repeal of President Bush’s tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 — would cover only about half. That means additional health care savings would be needed, not only to keep premiums under control but also to help pay for the subsidies.
A consensus has emerged among health economists that at least a third of the country’s spending on health care is unnecessary. Both Mr. Obama, of Illinois, and his Republican rival, Senator John McCain of Arizona, agree that significant sums could be saved through reductions in unneeded procedures and improvements in electronic record-keeping, prevention and chronic disease management.
But the dollar values Mr. Obama has attached to individual components of his plan are beginning to attract scrutiny. In particular, the Congressional Budget Office issued a report in May questioning the amount to be saved from the computerization of health systems.
Mr. Obama took his estimate of $77 billion a year from a 2005 study by the RAND Corporation (which cautioned that reductions of that magnitude would not emerge for 15 years). The Congressional analysts found, however, that for various methodological reasons the RAND study was “not an appropriate guide” to potential savings.
This month, Mr. Obama’s health advisers tried to recast the debate so that the questioning of any one number would not undermine the plan’s broader credibility. They enlisted eight health policy experts to sign a letter that, without endorsing the math behind any single initiative, proclaimed it was “not only possible, but likely” that Mr. Obama could save $200 billion annually. They did not say by when.
Mr. Cutler, who helped collect the signatures, said he and his colleagues had decided “that our attempt to lay out one plausible scenario for the savings had created more problems than it had solved.” He added: “Putting the debate where this message puts it — do you believe we can save 8 percent of health spending through a major series of public and private reforms — asks the question in a way that is much more productive than the issue of ‘Do you believe a single estimate among many, many studies?’ ”
Mr. Obama’s economic policy director, Jason Furman, said the campaign’s estimates were conservative and asserted that much of the savings would come quickly. “We think we could get to $2,500 in savings by the end of the first term, or be very close to it,” Mr. Furman said.
The campaign won additional backing this week from Kenneth E. Thorpe of Emory University, an authority on health care costs who helped formulate Bill Clinton’s failed plan in 1993. In an assessment that he initiated in coordination with the campaign, Mr. Thorpe wrote that if all of Mr. Obama’s proposals were enacted they would reduce health spending by between $203 billion and $273 billion by 2012. He calculated that half of the savings would accrue to the federal government.
The Obama advisers said that while not all of the savings would translate into lower premiums, consumers would gain in other ways. The savings to employers would be passed along as higher wages, they predicted, and the savings to government would eventually mean either lower taxes or added benefits.
But whether employers and governments respond that way cannot be guaranteed, particularly in a difficult economy. And a number of health policy experts have questioned whether the $2,500 projection is either fiscally or politically realistic. Reducing health care costs, they emphasized, means taking money from someone’s pocket and rationing care that Americans have come to expect, a recipe for stiff resistance.
“There is no easy money because, as the saying goes, one person’s fraud and abuse is another person’s income,” said Joseph R. Antos of the American Enterprise Institute. “I wouldn’t think that four years or eight years or probably 10 years will be enough to see numbers of that sort.”
The Commonwealth Fund, a health research group in New York, published a study in December projecting that a robust overhaul consisting of 15 broad initiatives would generate savings of only 6 percent after 10 years. “Doing it by the end of a first term is ambitious and would require tough policies,” said Karen Davis, the group’s president.
Jonathan B. Oberlander, who teaches health policy at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, called it wishful thinking. “Do they have the potential to generate significant savings in the long run?” Dr. Oberlander asked. “Yes. Do I believe they will produce substantial savings in the short run that can be used to finance Obama’s plan? No.”
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/23/us/23health.html?ref=policy&pagewanted=all

Posted by: Natasha | October 11, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

kathy: and when I say i don’t have a problem with it, i’m talking about what palin did to boot the guy off the force, not the tasering. just wanted to clarify so i don’t get my head torn off.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Kathy–you live in LaLa Land or you are sitting in an Obama campaign office writing this. Everybody knows about the muslim-Obama connection. HIS FATHER WAS MUSLIM AND SO WAS HIS STEP-FATHER AND HE WENT TO A MUSLIM SCHOOL IN INDONESIA!!!!!!
He’s also being endorsed by radical muslim islamic terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah. Obviously they see something they like about Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

Someone in the blogs said there was a muslim connection, and I am making it clear that he is not a muslim, but about the mob scene, there are several videos of these ignorant people, and you might have missed one video where there was a whole line of them shouting out words like “terrorist” And today there was a man holding a monkey with an Obama sticker on its head, and at the rallies people are shouting out “terrorist” “kill him” “off with this head” “treason” and more. McCain is even being asked from his crowd about Obama being a terrorist. The point is Palin and McCain started the politics of fear hate and division. McCain was forced to defend Obama after he was put on the spot. It’s all very sad.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Natasha–That’s great. Did you get all that Concerned American???? Can we finish the health care discussion now? I think Natasha just put the period on the subject.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Kathy–It is very sad, but the monkey with the Obama sticker on it head? I know it’s wrong , but that’s dam funny.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

– I’m not saying to not do anything about the problem, but Obama’s is a social program, forcing to people to join whether you like the plan or not. –
No one is forced to join. And it’s a capitalistic plan that would simply create another insurance company which would compete with all the others. The major difference is that due to size, it would be more affordable and available to patients with pre-existing conditions. Something that McCain still hasn’t figured out how to deal with.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Kill hi…
Oh,dammit Kathy, you stole all my lines.

Posted by: Mild-mannered Republican | October 11, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Well it’s obvious that Republicans don’t care about ethics and why it’s important that were all ethical, especially the very people representing us. As for Barack Obama being a muslim, you couldn’t be anymore wrong. It is true that his father from Kenya might have been a muslim but you’re not taking into account that he only met him once, and as for his step father, he was only in Indonesia till he was 10 years old, he was than sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. Those are the facts and it’s your choice whether to believe it or live on being ignorant and close minded.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

The biggest hole in Palin claiming that this report was partisan is the not that there were 10 repbulicans and 4 democrats (although that certainly is a good reason by itself). It is the fact that this entire invesitigation started a month or two before her selection as the VP and at that time she said she would cooperate fully. The original release date for the invesitigation changed from late Oct 28th or so to this past Friday, and that is probably the only change. Frankly, it might have been worse for McCain/Palin on the original release date as this would be fresher in the mind’s of voters on election day. She goes from fully cooperating to not because it was “partisan” when none of the principal players involved had changed. Why would McCain have picked someone with an ethics investigation in a tight election unless she was not properly vetted. I find McCain and Palin to be an odd pairing as well, as besides their reformer status they seem to be opposites to one another on most other issues, and this seems to have contributed to the message coming from McCain’s campaign being erratic at times.

Posted by: Ordermonger | October 11, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Funny? I don’t believe it to be funny, and I guess your parents didn’t teach you any better.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

Kathy, do we need to start point out the biggest scandal and collapse of the financial institutions and their connections
Fannie and Freddie?!!!
That investigation will bring down the liberal democratic power in Washington, once the investigation is over. Resignations will be flying everywhere!
Franklin Raines – Obama campaign housing advisor, LOL!
James Johnson – Obama V.P. advisory committee chairperson.
Those are some pretty big ties to the biggest financial collapse in American History, and they are involved with Obama’s campaign, that should make everyone cringe!!!
McCain was exonerated, meaning cleared of any wrong doing, just poor judgement.
Exonerated – declared of guiltless!
But yet Obama won’t explain his past and present poor judgement! Why do you think that is?! Obama just won’t speak, why do you think he doesn’t like town hall meetings, even with his supporters!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

yes, I agree Kathy, it is all very sad. But i have to say i have seen some very, very hateful posts all over these blogs against McCain and Palin so i think it’s very much a two way street. I’ve seen hate posts from blacks to whites calling white people whitey etc. very derogatory, inflammatory comments… you know what i mean, so it didn’t start with McCain and Palin saying anything. They are right to question Obama’s connections and have every right to – just like if the tables were turned, Obama would have a right to question McCains and palins connections. But they don’t have anything except keating. The way the few people you were acting is despicable. It is crazy. But people are scared and feel cornered because everyone is so unhappy about the economy, they are opting for someone with ties to slumlords, terrorists, ex-cons, and a radical racist minister. They don’t see how that can be better than what we’ve got. And the guy is smooth and eloquent to boot. If those ties weren’t there, and he wasnt for socializing everything, they might think he’s okay. But that is not the case. And, he denies all of it, and that is just not the truth. So now there is distrust. It just goes on and on. But I agree. It’s sad all the way around.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Concerned–If Obama wants to go into business as an insurance provider, I think that would suit him better than President. Just hope he doesn’t make more than $250,000, because his company will be in the toilet.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

Palin can’t defend herself on this, she abused her power and there is no way it is partisan, there were 10 republicans and 4 democrats who made the ruling, she needs to step down now.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

“Whitey”? Yeah sure… I’ve never seen anyone make inflammatory comments like that towards McCain or Palin. It’s mostly been about the issues.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

I see this again and again on blogs on here, people falsely claiming that Obama is a Muslim. The fact of the matter is…Obama is a Christian but it should not even matter if he was a Muslim. There are plenty of decent Muslims in this country that work towards a common good for our nation. To say he is Muslim is not only false, but it racist, wrong, and ignorant. (Some of the same people that say he is a muslim also are saying stuff about Reverend Wright, making them obviously people spreading hate and fear, or paid republican smear artists. How can they say he is Muslim then turn around and condemn him for his Christian pastor?)

Posted by: Ordermonger | October 11, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

msa123–What is sad is that we are left with Obama and McCain. We could go for a 3rd party, but really, they have been pretty much excluded from the MSM and all debates that no one knows their positions.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

never mind, Kathy. IApparently I don’t live under the same rock as you do.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Ordermonger–his pastor preachered Black liberation theology, and Obama’s muslim past wouldn’t matter if he weren’t connected to Radical muslim extremist groups and sympathizers, like Ayers.
He’s also been connected to hatem El-Hady, chairman of Kindness foundation on FBI watchlist and assets frozen for funneling money to Hamas, a group that endorsed Obama. El-Hady had a page praising Obama on Obama’s website until March, when El-Hady was exposed, the page vanished.Every corner you turn from Obama’s past leads you to a terrorists.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

I’m not sure which is more troubling: the report’s finding that Sarah Palin violated ethics law or Palin’s delusional assertions that the report clears her of all wrongdoing.

Posted by: Mild-mannered Republican | October 11, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

The Keating 5 Scandal was far worse than anything they have against Barack Obama. McCain tried to pass legislation to delay regulation on the loans and savings industry to allow his friend Charles Keating to continue his fraud. I’m surprised he is still holding public office. The McCain campaign are trying to use guilt by association to tie Obama to Ayers. Just because you serve on a charity board with someone, doesn’t mean that you all of a sudden you agree with actions they committed when you were only 8 years old. It doesn’t make any sense.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm

Kathy–There have been horrible names launched at McCain, for his age, Palin for being a woman and McCain supporters have been called racist and whitey and a few that cannot be repeated here. I have had more verbal assaults hurled at me during the last few months than my entire lifetime.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

S Adams: Oh, I completely agree. Everyone is trying to defend their choice by saying the other guy is a creep. When in reality, both choices pretty much suck. So, I guess we have to pick the one that sucks the least. My vote is for no socialized healthcare and fewer ties to radicals, racists, American terrorists, and ex-cons, and against a guy who thinks it’s ok to let botched abortion babies die. All of those things go against my principles, is all. If I have to live on a pig farm and raise chickens, so be it. But I won’t vote for a man with Obamas idealogy or background – never.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm

Obama and Ayers met in 1995 when Obama was asked to be the chairman of the charity board for education that was funded by Annenburg which happens to be voting for McCain, and Ayers attended the board meetings to give his points on education. The board had both democrats and republicans. At this time Ayers was a professor at the University of Illinois teaching english. There are actual students who attend his classes, so you should ask yourself if whoever attended his classes are somehow disqualified to serve in public office or even be president. The point is this argument the McCain campaign are trying is just not going to work.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Keating 5 is non-issue, McCain was found innocent and 3 democrats were found guilty.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

Palin is a liar, she was found guilty of abuse of power. She has the ordacisty to question someone patriotism while she’s lying and not patriotic herself. Palin and her race driven rally’s are unamerican. Palin has no experience, no knowledge of the issues and can’t speak to reporters. A conservative woman said Palins’ role in the Mccain campaign is that of a secretary. Hillary Clinton may have put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling but Palin has pushed women back 60 years. How can Palin fight for the American people when she not in control of her actions in the Mccain campaign?

Posted by: madkeyra | October 11, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

S Adams: If that is the case, than why isn’t FOX, NBC, ABC, or CNN reporting about it?

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm

hey kathy. the 8 years old thing. You’re parroting again. I guess I’m going to have to buy you that parrot. Obama is smart. He knows that if he says the same thing over and over and over again, that everyone will start believing it and saying it themselves. Now THAT I give the guy credit for.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

S Adams: CNN fact check says that he did try to pass legislation to delay regulation on the savings and loans industry to help his friend Charles Keating continue his fraud.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

kathy: I;ll answer your question to S Adams… because its OLD NEWS. OLD news. Where have you been?

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

– Did you get all that Concerned American???? –
Absolutely.. seen it before and the posting verbatim was quite unnecessary (yet a particularly nasty habit of Natasha). It focuses on Obamas plan only in relation to costs without providing a comparison to McCains plan When the two are compared, it turns out that both would cost roughly the same, $1.3 trillion over 10 years for McCain, $1.6 trillion over 10 years for Obama.. yet Obamas would cover more Americans and be more efficient:
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/pm126
It also misquotes some figures, such as the $200 billion in savings, and misstates the assertion that Obamas “aspires to cover the country’s 47 million”, which it doesn’t, Obamas plan is to increase availability and coverage for Americans, however does not mandate everyone in America be covered, which would be impossible. The estimates put coverage of currently uninsured at 47% under Obama, while McCains would only cover 7% at peak. In fact, if you read the Commonwealth Fund report (the one mentioned in the article Natasha posted) on the plans and which one has the greatest promise, they conclude Obamas plan does:
“Obama’s proposal for mixed private–public group insurance with a shared responsibility for financing has greater potential to move the health care system toward high performance than does McCain’s proposal to encourage individual market coverage through the use of tax incentives and deregulation (Figure ES-4).
Compared with McCain’s approach, Obama’s approach could provide more people with affordable health insurance that covers essential services, achieve greater equity in access to care, realize efficiencies and cost savings in the provision of coverage and delivery of care, and redirect incentives to improve quality.”
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=707948

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

President Clinton – Well, that depends on what is, is! LMFAO!!!!!!!!! Kathy, with all due respect, and no-offence, but I’m 100% happy that you’re not my mother, or a family member with kids in my family. Just really think about ethics with the parties involved here.
Abuse of power went both ways, but the others parties involved went south, way beyond commonsense and grown-up actions of typical law abiding actions.
But no one is talking about the actual law breaking from the other side, wonder why that is.
If McCain had a family member that tasered a minor, there would be outrage beyond belief from the left, saying McCain’s family are a bunch of savages.
Give it a rest, commonsense ruled in Palin’s favor, and you just can’t get over that because she’s a Republican. Get over yourself, please!!!
This is just a political stunt you’re playing, and it’s not working.
Breaking news – case is over, no law broke!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

msa123: So speaking the truth is parroting? It is true he was just 8 years old when Ayers committed those despicable crimes, and trying to link those Obama and Ayers have fueled hate and division in the country. Obama does not believe in what Ayers did, he condemned it. There were many republicans and democrats who served on that charity board. Republicans funded the charity.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Y’all know who the big winners are with all this nonsense? The media. We the people are ignited by the news dweebs. All it takes is a good headline slamming palin and voila, we are at each others throats. The news folks laugh at us all! They want to be seen as liberal because they know that it will fan the flames! And so it goes…
Good night friends. As for ABC, you can go, well you know where to go and what to do when you get there.

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Obama’s path is intertwined with Ayers since Obama arrived in Chicago. Obama interned at Sidney Austin Law Firm in 1989, Ayers wife worked there. later Obama worked as assoc lawyer at Miner and Barnhill law firm, Judson Miner was a close friend of Ayers. Ayers and Obama worked on the Woods fund,ABC lobby group, Annenberg challenge and many others.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Governor Palin appears to be flawed on several fronts, and not necessarily a good choice for our country.
In addition to the recent report on the Governor’s ethical breach, she continues to regurgitate countless false accusations against Senator Obama.
Never mind her gross inability to articulate a clear, cohesive sentence. Her gross unprofessionalism at the microphone is merely a repeat of the pretender to the Presidency over the last 7+ years who has soiled our White House.
Senator McCain’s handlers made a bad choice for a running mate. He has also made several bad choices in his campaign, thanks to his handlers.
In fairness, Governor Palin is only doing what she is told, under the “guidance” of Karl Rove – as is Senator McCain. The RNC is alive and well, doing whatever they can to preserve the lease on the White House. No honesty – no ethics – no respect for the Democratic Party’s ticket or for the voters.
Shame!

Posted by: saftgek | October 11, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

I never said that what Bill Clinton did was right, but I am pointing out that Sarah Palin violated ethics laws and therefore she should not be allowed to hold public office because she cannot be trusted. And if you’re fine with her actions that obviously good ethics do not matter to you.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

S Adams: Show me something that says Ayers wife worked at the same Law firm as Obama because what I know about Ayers wife is that she also is a teacher.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

PS. Kathy, there is no truth in politics. Yes, nonsense! Ciao!

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

concerned: “Obama’s proposal for mixed private–public group insurance with a shared responsibility – ” woa woa woa.
SHARED responsibility? Is that what he calls it?? Sounds to me like employers are sharing the responsibility for all Americans who need healthcare. Thats the only sharing I see. So, employees are sharing NADA. How is that fair? Well, I guess if you’re the employee it looks fair, huh?
You’re just bound and determined that this is the greatest plan on the universe. But either you’re part of the Obama campaign or you are an employee who has never had a business. Or you just think it’s fair to make an employer pay for someone’s insurance for grins. Not sure which.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

Now that it’s apparent that Todd Palin was actually the “power behind the throne,” and that Ms Palin had a city administrator run Wasilla for her, it’s obvious to me that she has only ever been a figurehead leader and really doesn’t know what she’s doing in office. November 4 can’t come soon enough.

Posted by: Jane D. | October 11, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Palin abused her power, and it is shocking that it doesn’t bother any of their supporters.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm

Kathy: yes indeed, just SHOCKING. She abused her powers to rid the state of a scumbag officer that happened to be her ex brother-in-law. Oh my. I’m not going to sleep tonight!

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

As for the Keating-5, McCain was the only one of them who was personally and socially involved, having been flown at least 9 times in Keatings private jet at Keatings expense, and McCains family and baby sitter spent at least 3 vacations on Keatings personal island in the Bahamas. While not convicted, he was repremanded for his actions and told he showed poor Judgment. It was a political low point for McCain that almost ruined him.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

McCain and palin may not really be mavaricks but they are certainly trailblazers………
Now that Sarah Palin has been found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics, and lied about it .
The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 11, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

She tried to fire the man who wouldn’t fire her sister in laws husband? You don’t think that is unethical?

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Kathy–It is Obama’s judgement that is in question. He knew what Ayers had done when Ayers hosted Obamas kickoff to the state senate in his home. Ayers and his wife and the Weather Underground is guilty of killing to Police officers and blowing a prosecutors home with him family in it, including small children. If Tim McVeigh was alive today, would it be okay for Obama to associate with him? No, it is the same difference. My kid is 10, if he were to befriend Adams Gadahn, American Al Qaeda member, 10 yrs from now, people would call my son a terrorist. Ayers is unrepetent for what he did and says he didn’t do enough, yet Obama still considers him a friend.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

Bernadine Dohrn(Ayers wife)worked at the same law firm as Michelle Obama, they are best friends! Barack and Michelle have been married 16yrs., how do you think they met, hmmm, I wonder! 2008 – 16yrs. = 1992.
How long did Barack date Michelle before being married? Michelle hosted the fund raising event that kicked off in Ayers house for Obama’s political career.
Do you actually think Ayers, being the radical he is, would let a future politician into his home if he did not know or liked his political views.
It’s amazing, Bill Ayers political views are exactly the same as Obama’s. It really makes you think something like, hhmmmmmm, I wonder?!!!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

– Kathy: yes indeed, just SHOCKING. She abused her powers to rid the state of a scumbag officer that happened to be her ex brother-in-law. –
She exceeded her power and violated State Ethics Law in removing the Public Safety Commissioner, among other things. And the day before the report came out, the GOP had the audacity to release their own ‘findings’ that reportedly cleared her of any wrong doing:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/09/politics/main4512684.shtml?source=mostpop_story

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

If she tried to fire her sister in laws husband than it might not be as bad. But she tried to fire someone who did nothing wrong, and she lied about it. She can’t be trusted as president or vice president.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Concerned: Yes, it was poor judgement on McCain’s part. I agree. And the guy is not perfect. But neither is Obama. So then it comes down to the other things discussed over and over again that we’re all familiar with. It’s just a matter of your own principles and how well you think you’ll sleep at night knowing who you voted for. After reading and absorbing everything you can (books included not just the biased ‘news’ of course) vote your conscience is the advice I live by.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

What about his judgment? Ayers was a college professor at the time when he held a coffee at his home for Obama, not a terrorist. Alice Palmer invited Obama to Ayers home because she decided to step down as state senator and have Obama has her successor because she decided to run for congress. Obama has said that at the time he did not know of Ayers past. I do not think it matters whether he did or not because Ayers was a college professor at the time and it would be assumed he was rehabilitated.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Kathy–Once her days as an active terrorist were over, Bernardine Dohrn was employed by prestigious law firm Sidley & Austin from 1984 to 1988. Dohrn had been hired by Howard Trienens, the head of the firm and an associate of Thomas G. Ayers, Bill Ayers’ father. It is unclear whether Obama knew the former fugitive Dohrn through Sidley & Austin but there is no doubt that, by the time Obama joined Sidley & Austin as a summer associate, Obama had known Bill Ayers for two years through their involvement in Alliance for Better Chicago Schools.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

msa123: NOBODY IS PERFECT

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

Oh geez… “the AUDACITY”… this is politics people. It amazes me the AUDACITY of Obama to deny he ever heard his minister talk in such a radical, racist manner over a 20 yr span. It also amazes me the AUDACITY of Obama to make it out like his father was just a poor little goat herder when in fact, he was fairly well to do and had LOTS of Kenyan government connections which is how he got to school in America.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Obama would have a right to question McCains and palins connections. But they don’t have anything except keating.
posted by msa123
***************************************
Oh you are so very, very wrong. There are many more questionable characters in McCain’s and Palins very recent connections.
Obama is trying to stay on the issues as much as possible and not go into charater assassination, which is what you usually find the party that has nothing to offer doing.
But since you brought it up.
Let’s start with just one.
What about G. Gordon Liddy.
A crook, liar, would be murderer (by his own admission). Mccain has recently called him his very good friend. Palin is so impressed by him, she tried to get him to be her spokesperson.
Obama may not want to bring up MCCain and Palins recent connections to domestic terrorists, but many of we the people don’t have a problem with it, if that is where the MccAin campaign chooses to go.

Posted by: Truth Matters | October 11, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

J and msa123–got get out of here, good luck with Concerned and Kathy.
Peace out.

Posted by: S Adams | October 11, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

See ya.

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Sarah hassled Wooten because of personal family ties, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.
Such poor judgement and such small time politics.
If Wooten hadn’t been Sarah’s ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten’s suspension.
Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.

Posted by: pefros | October 11, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

Sarah hassled Wooten because of personal family ties, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.
Such poor judgement and such small time politics.
If Wooten hadn’t been Sarah’s ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten’s suspension.
Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.

Posted by: pefros | October 11, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

S Adams: Barack Obama has proved himself to be a man of good morals and values. He is a dedicated family man and christian. I have been following his candidicay for president since 2007 and I’ve thoroughly researched his background and the issues he represents. I will not be fooled by the politics of hate and division and I’m confident that other people won’t either. Times are too serious, and I strongly believe that we need fundamental change in this country. McCain hasn’t proved that he will offer that and Palin is just not qualified by any means to be president or vice president, and after finding out that she abused her power, it has turned me off even more.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

If you are truly being fair to both parties in this presidential race, then you would not just repeat the lies of the McCain Campaign saying “Who is Barack Obama and what is his relationship with Ayers the Terrorist?” You would not ask why Obama is running a negative ad campaign when you know he is only responding to the 100% negative ads of the McCain Campaign. This is not something that you do not know, but it is something that you do not mention and pretend that you do not know. This is insulting and condescending. You already know that Barack has denounced the actions of Ayres and that Barack was 8 years old at the time of these actions. You already know that McCain has a connection as well to the woman who headed the board which helped the children in the community. You are not being fair or equal and you know it.
You also already know that the board that Barack and Ayres served on was sponsored by a McCain supporter which links John Sydney McCain to Ayres also.

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 11, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

You do not mention the Keating 5 and ask do we really know John McCain. You do not mention the Iran-Contra group and how McCain not only supported this Terrorist group, but that his name was on their letterhead. Do we really know John McCain?
You do not mention John McCain and the rally he attended of a Hate group Terrorists who shot a doctor who performed an abortion and the delegate supporting McCain that called that individual who shot the doctor a good woman. John McCain did not walk out. He stayed their as if to support these actions. Do we really know John McCain?

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 11, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

msa123: It seems that you listen to too much conservative radio and maybe too much Sean Hannity

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

kathy: but you seem to think Obama is perfect. I have made honest comments on both sides of the coin, but you have not one time. You defend everything. “But the terrorist became a clown in the circus so it was assumed he was okay by then!” I believe you would defend Obama if he robbed a bank.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

The SPIRIT OF GEORGE WALLACE AND LESTER MADDOX IS ALIVE AND WELL IN JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN! I hope America is not fooled by this sudden epiphany AND RESPECTFUL REMARKS HE MADE RECENTLY TOWARD BARACK OBAMA of John Mccain! THIS IS THE SAME PERSON FOR OVER A WEEK SANCTIONED HIS CANDIDATE FOR VICE PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN’S EXTREME VIOLATILE, DANGEROUS AND MISLEADING RHETORIC AGAINST BARACK OBAMA WHICH IS REFLECTIVE OF JIM CROW AND KLU KLUX KLAN POLITICS! NOW, HE COMES TO HIS SENSES AGAIN AFTER HE SAW THE LATEST POLLS! THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN BY SARAH PALIN AGAINST BARACK OBAMA TO DISTRACT VOTERS FROM HER TROOPERGATE TROUBLE AND JOHN MCCAIN FROM THE ECONOMY, SHOWS THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUALS THEY ARE, AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO TO GET INTO THE OVAL OFFICE! THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO TOUT COUNTRY FIRST, TRUST, INTEGRITY AND JUDGMENT, BUT WHO USED KARL ROVE’S PLAY BOOK, GEORGE BUSH’S JUDGMENT AND FOX NEWS FOR CAMPAIGN STRATEGIES

Posted by: Lee | October 11, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

You also do not mention to Sarah Palin about the Joe Vogler and her husband. This is an Alaskan Independence Party who were terrorists and who her husband Todd Palin’s was apart of and registered with this Independence Party up until September of this year when Sarah was picked as Vice President. Vogler was quoted as saying the following:
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won’t be buried under their damn flag. I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” [3]

Posted by: Tired of the Bull | October 11, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

My concern and frankly my issue is that if you were true unbias fair and equal reporters who are impartial, why do you keep repeating the lies and smears of McCain and not addressing the true associations of Palin and McCain. Both McCain and Obama has ties to Ayres and McCain has more ties to terrorists than any candidate and Palin’s husband was apart of Terrorist group. When you truly are equally giving time and commentary to both’s associations, then I see you as impartial. If I found this information, then you know this information as well, but you never mention it or address it. Professionals address both sides, not just one. The next time George Stephanopolis says Why not Ayres? Ask for McCain or Obama? Then ask why not Keating 5? Why not Iran Contra connections with your name on the letterhead? Why not Hate groups who shoot to kill doctors? Why not the Alaskan Independence? Party? Why not McCain’s rejection of many bills for American veteran soldiers? Why not ask Cindy if she did not get a chill from the many bills your husband rejected, why did she not get a chill from a bill that would keep the soldiers in Iraq for an unlimited amount of time. An illegal war spurred by Bush/McCain? Why did that not give Cindy a chill? How about Obama voting for the Veterans 80% and your husband John voting 20% with the veterans? Did that give Cindy a chill? And can Cindy really handle switching shoes with Obama or Michele for 1 day Mrs. Bud? Can you really handle growing up the way Obama or Michele or any regular red blooded American, Mrs. Bud?

Posted by: Change Agent | October 11, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

kathy: i have never once listened to Hannity nor do i watch fox news. I watch the more liberal stations (abc, cbs, cnn, msnbc come to mind)so that i can see what is being said out there. I dont want to hear people who are more closely aligned with how i think. how could i learn anything if i just hear them parroting what i think? I can think for myself, and i do.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Show me how far the media has come and dare to address any of the above statements I’ve listed. I am not afraid to apologize and say that I am wrong, but I am sick of hearing from even MSNBC Ayres and Obama and not hearing McCain and Keating 5 and Iran Contra, Hate groups killing doctors and Todd Palin’s Alaskan Independence Party and McCain and how he voted against the veterans and your rebuttal of McCain not be a 30 second side mention after a 20 minute blowup of McCain’s misrepresentations and lies. What it looks like to me is that Republican people own these stations. Be fair to America and if they have a right to know about Ayres then they have a right to know about John McCain’s connections as well Palin’s connections, otherwise you and John McCain and Sarah Palin are the biggest deceiving hypocrites of all time. What you are doing is not Republican politics but modern day racism.

Posted by: Change Agent | October 11, 2008, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

msa123: I don’t believe that Obama has done anything wrong. Until CNN tells me he has, because that is the most trusted news on TV, than I will begin to research and find out for myself. What you are trying to do is make any innocent “association” into something negative to benefit McCain. I honestly believe that McCain is a good man, who served this country with honor, and I found even more respect for him after he defended Obama, but I do believe he will bring change and I don’t like his vice president Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

SARAH PALIN IS GUILTY OF ABUSE OF AUTHORITY BY A BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION – 10 REPUBLICANS AND 4 DEMOCRATS – THE VERDICT IS IN- SHE VIOLATED HER POSITION AND SHE LIED TO COVER HER ACTIONS!!!!!
The Networks and the McCain Campaign is lying again by saying this was a Partisan decision by the democrats. Just because you are an at-will(can fire for no reason) employee does not mean you can abuse your authority for personal vendettas. They need to fess up and grow up and take responsibility for their actions. This recent decision can bring further and future charges that could lead to censure and/or impeachment of Governor Palin. She is guilty of Abusing her authority as a trusted Government official and she based her qualifications for Vice President and for being a heartbeat away from the Presidency on her experience. She has lied about the reasons for firing the commissioner on several occasions. She personally defamed his character and libelously attacked his creditability without regard to the effect on him and his family for pure political gain and basically projecting herself as a moral Christian with nothing to hide. She initially said that he went on a trip unauthorized until ABC produced the document that said otherwise. Her constituents were not in agreement with her intimidating and threatening tactics, but carried them out for fear of their jobs. She had her husband run meetings and help in this attack even though he is not authorized and she overstepped her authority. She gave him permission to be her strong arm and he is clearly connected to and was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party created by Joe Vogler who was a radical Anti-American terrorist and she tried to appoint one of the radical terrorist, John Stein, to head City Council but it was rejected by the people. She used intimidation, manipulation and domination to run her position and that is illegal.
She has no creditability. She has no integrity. You cannot believe anything that she says.
It is blatantly clear that she is not qualified for Vice President, or President and now that
this decision has been confirmed and brought out, it is clear she is not even qualified for Governor either. I am also glad that they are looking into her paying herself taxpayer money for daily per diems including weekends to stay at home. The majority of the people I know work in a different city than where they live, however, they do not get per diems. She took thousands of taxpayers dollars. This is not a woman you want elected and she does not represent true Christianity.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

Posted by: Woman for Truth | October 11, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

msa123: Most of your arguments against Obama are from conservative talk radio and Sean Hannity. I’ve never heard CNN talk about Ayers wife and Michelle Obama working together or any of these other associations that you’re bringing up, except on conservative talk radio the Sean Hannity Show, that allows people like Jerome Corsi talk about his book of lies.

Posted by: Kathy | October 11, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Sarah hassled Wooten because of personal family ties with him, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.
Such poor judgement and such small time politics.
If Wooten hadn’t been Sarah’s ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten’s suspension.
Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.
The ruling was she abused her power, and that sounds exactly accurate.

Posted by: pefros | October 11, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

kathy: okay, Obama has not done anything wrong. So if CNN didn’t say it, then it isn’t true? Or whatever they say is true? Oh my God. Never mind. But it was nice of you to compliment McCain and I respect your opinion that you don’t like Palin. But please broaden your horizons by listening to Fox News at least, just to get a balanced picture (offset CNN), THEN read up on all you can OUTSIDE of the mainstream media, THEN decide what you think the truth is. Thinking CNN is the ‘real deal’ is giving them an awful lot of power over what you think.

Posted by: msa123 | October 11, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

It’s also funny how later on, Obama got hooked up with a crooked now convicted felon, Tony Rezko!
They got set up with a house, on the same street as Ayers and Farrakhan, only 1 mile separates them all.
Farrakhan speaks at Obama’s church, the same hate speech of America and white people(a so-called Christian Church). And Farrakhan and Rev. Wright has the AUDACITY to say they are peaceful and truthful, hell, Obama can’t even be truthful.
That’s one Christian congregation I would never be apart of, let alone visit.
A Muslim speaking hate speech at a Christian church, THE AUDACITY! A Christian pastor not speaking the gospel of Jesus Christ, but just hate, and using the pulpit to preach hate and division, along with revenge. THE AUDACITY.
Rev. Wright and Farrakhan speak highly of Obama, just as Ayers. Using the pulpit for political endorsements, hmm, I thought that was illegal!
I guess It’s not Illegal is you are a radical liberal!
And they all live close to one another! Give me a break!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

VIOLATION OF ABUSE OF AUTHORITY BY A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL CAN LEAD TO IMPEACHMENT.
THAT IS GOVERNOR PALIN’S REALITY. YOU CAN IGNORE IT IF YOU WANT. SHE HAS LIED TO AMERICA’S FACE ALL THROUGH THIS INVESTIGATION SAYING SHE NEVER PRESSURED MONEGAN. SHE VIOLATED THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE IN HER POSITION AS GOVENOR. FURTHER CHARGES MAY BE PURSUED. SHE HAS NO INTEGRITY. SHE HAS NO CREDITABILITY. SHE DOES NOT REPRESENT WOMEN. SHE REPRESENTS THE GAME “YOU’VE BEEN PUNK’D” BY PALIN.

Posted by: Change Crusader | October 11, 2008, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

When is Palin going to step down? Mitt Romney would be a better choice, he actually knows more about the economy than McCain and Palin put together

Posted by: Informed Voter | October 11, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

SARAH PALIN ATTENDED AND ADDRESSED MEMBERS AT AN ALASKAN INDEPENDENCE PARTY KNOWING THAT THE MILITIA MEMBERS INTIMATELY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. THEY HELPED HER GET ELECTED AS MAYOR. SHE REWARDED TERRORIST JOHN STEIN BY ATTEMPTING TO APPOINT HIM AS CITY COUNCIL. WHEN SHE RECEIVED RESISTENCE, HE WAS REJECTED. THIS WASN’T 40 YEARS AGO, THIS WAS RECENTLY. SHE IS THE TERRORIST AND SO IS HER HUSBAND. TODD PALIN, THE FIRST DUDE IS APART OF AN TERRORIST PARTY. SARAH PALIN IS THE PROFESSIONAL DECEIVER AND LIAR.
Todd Palin was apart of this Alaskan Independence Party up until 2008. Sarah Palin recorded a video showing Todd being apart of this group this year. During the 1970s, Vogler founded the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP) and Alaskans For Independence. He also claimed to have organized the meeting which led to the formation of the Libertarian Party in Alaska. The AIP and AFI, as Vogler explained, were intended to function as strictly separate entities — AIP primarily to explore whether the 1956 vote by Alaskans authorizing statehood was legal, and AFI primarily to actively pursue secession for Alaska from the United States.
The Alaskan Independence Party quotes Vogler as stating “I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”[1] [2]
Todd Palin first registered to vote in 1989. From 1995 to 2002 he was registered to vote as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.[11] In late August 2008, The Politico reported that Palin was registered to vote as an independent (“undeclared”), and had never registered as a Republican.[12]

Posted by: Change Crusader | October 11, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

CNN is the most trusted name in news and the Republicans and Democrats on CNN can actually disagree without yelling and disrespecting each other.

Posted by: Informed Voter | October 11, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm

Out, I have to give my lady a back rub, peace everybody.
Let’s ALL be Americans with diagreements, but never turn our back’s on our liberty!

Posted by: :] | October 11, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

– You’re just bound and determined that this is the greatest plan on the universe –
No, not the greatest, but better than McCains.
It is funny to note however.. Natasha puts up an article that supposedly shows how bad Obamas plan is due to cost, yet that article fails to compare it to McCains in the same terms or even at all. I point out that they both will cost roughly the same (with a link to the analysis on costs) and that is ignored. Then I show, using the very same commonwealth fund analysis that the original article used as evidence, what they said about the two plans and which one they considered better (and again, provided a link to it so you can read it for yourself), and you complain about it as well.
Listen, I’ve looked at just about every analysis of them both. It is something that I care about because skyrocketing health costs are killing me and my family, my friends, their businesses and their employees. Every single analysis I’ve seen that compares the two side by side in terms of cost, coverage and efficiency comes up with Obamas plan a better deal for Americans. Plain and simple.
But I’ve really wasted too much time on this.. it’s obvious your mind is made up regardless, so there is no point in wasting electrons. Hopefully, others will have read the information and been able to gain insight on the differences between the two and what those differences will mean to America and it’s citizens.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

DON’T BE FOOLED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
FOX NEWS AND CNN ARE ON MCCAIN’S PAYROLL. MANY PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IT.
KEITH OLBERMANN CALLS FOX, FIXED NEWS, BECAUSE IT IS FIXED TO WHATEVER MCCAIN WANTS TO PORTRAY. HANNITY IS THE BIGGEST BIAS INDIVIDUAL AND SO IS O’RIELLY. I WILL NOT SUPPORT OR WATCH THEM.

Posted by: Change Crusader | October 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Sarah hassled Wooten because of personal family ties with him, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.
Such poor judgement and such small time politics.
If Wooten hadn’t been Sarah’s ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten’s suspension.
Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.
The ruling was she abused her power, and that sounds exactly accurate. Petty, small-minded and not fit for national office.

Posted by: pefros | October 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

– “the AUDACITY” –
Yup, the audacity. I personally took that as an assult on the intelligence of the american public. They did everything they could to prevent the investigation from happening. Palin refused to testify even though she originally agreed to. Then the day before the offical report, they come out with their own findings clearing her of any wrong doing.
I’m amazed that people just bend over and take this from our parties. Apparently you have not problem with it, which is regretful.

Posted by: Concerned American | October 11, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

She’s UN-ETHICAL (and she did it with a vengeance):
Friday night saw the demise of Sarah Palin’s dreaded “Troopergate,” scandal with the release of a lengthy legislative report finding that the Governor had “abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. The ethics rule provides that “each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.” The report concluded that “(Palin) eport concluded that “(Palin) knowingly, as the term is defined in the above cited statutes, permitted Todd Palin to use the governor’s office and the resources of the governor’s office, including state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get trooper (Mike) Wooten fired.

Posted by: Rob H | October 11, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

What a crook! Why does anyone take this stupid woman seriously? This is Twilight Zone politics!

Posted by: disgusted | October 11, 2008, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

This witch should stay home and take care of her soon to be illegitimate grandchild.

Posted by: me | October 11, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

But Rob, Every time they vote themselves a raise, is that not an ethics violation. Is that not a “benefit?”

Posted by: Damocles | October 11, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Sarah hassled Wooten because of personal family ties with him, using her office to pursue a personal vendetta after a messy divorce from her sister.
Such poor judgement and such small time politics.
If Wooten hadn’t been Sarah’s ex-brother-in-law the matter would have been left to rest after Wooten’s suspension.
Unfortunately Sarah chose to use her office to pursue a personal family issue. Not smart at all.
The ruling was she abused her power, and that sounds exactly accurate. Petty, small-minded and not fit for national office.

Posted by: pefros | October 11, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

Lying, cheating, stealing, abusing power, she fits in with the rest of the republican trash that has been running this country.
President Obama! Get used to it!

Posted by: Independent realist | October 11, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

Sarah Palin is a narrow minded wannabe politician, who claims to be a regular “soccer mom” yet plays dirty politics like the Politicos.She is so good at blabbing out lies with a smile she certainly has a career as a late night infomercial sales person.Even worse, I get ill every night reading these blog posts by my so-called Country men/women who spread so much hate, fear, and uncertainty because their party leader decided it was the way to win votes.Our country is sick, people, we need to realize both parties are to blame for the madness and division going on.

Posted by: Palinsmaverickmoosehead | October 11, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

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So if you’re advocating giving her a pass on this should we let them all use their offices for personal vendettas and the like?
Sounds like “Lord of the Flies” to me.

Posted by: Rob H | October 11, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

I suspect that ca. 100% of the people who investigate themselves are found to be innocent.
Let’s try that in our courts. Simply have the judge accept whatever plea the defendant chooses to enter, making juries and a trial unnecessary. We would also save a lot of money because all our jails and prisons would be empty.

Posted by: Bugg | October 11, 2008, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

Oops, I guess I HTML’d my reference quote right out;
My last post was in response to:
-But Rob, Every time they vote themselves a raise, is that not an ethics violation. Is that not a “benefit?”-
Also, she’s further exacerbated her breach of the public trust by denying any ethics violation which was clearly violated according to the Alaska Statute 39.52.110 (a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.
But maybe that’s something she didn’t care to read just like she doesn’t care to answer open questions from the press.
I guess she’ll get back to us on that…

Posted by: Rob H | October 11, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

McCain and Palin have escalated the lies and smears against Obama to get our minds off the report that just came out on her.
Headlines all over the world: “Guilty of abuse of power.”, “Palin abused power as Governor.”
Americans should be ashamed that either party would nominate this person for the second highest office in the land.
She is a disgrace in addition to being risky and dangerous.
Let her and her Alaskan mentors just try to secede from the Union.
Only Republican partisans would deny reality.
Anybody but McCain-Palin ’08.

Posted by: susan | October 12, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am

So Palin claims she did nothing unethical. The report pretty clearly states she did several highly unethical things, and that she abused the public trust. Ms Palin, you cast the first stone, and now you’re reaping what you sow. The report makes it clear you’re totally unfit to hold high office in this country. You’re a danger to our democracy, and I for one will be putting my country first and voting for Obama and Biden specifically to keep you out of office. Sarah Palin is a disgrace to this country.

Posted by: Tom | October 12, 2008, 1:24 am 1:24 am

To me, the worst thing is Palin’s lies – even now she’s insisting she did nothing wrong. Well, it’s obvious she abused her power as governor, and it’s obvious she’s been lying about it from day one. Why doesn’t she just tell the truth and put it behind her? We simply cannot risk another administration that lies to the american people like Bush. We can’t afford another administration that puts politics above our laws and our system of justice. We need to take our country back from this sickness that’s infected it the past 8 years.

Posted by: Fred | October 12, 2008, 1:30 am 1:30 am

So Palin claims she did nothing wrong? I have a one-word response: BULLSH*T!

Posted by: Al Gonzalez | October 12, 2008, 1:34 am 1:34 am

Palin is just as dirty and crooked as the good ole boys of Washington politics.
She did admit she was a pit bull with lipstick but she forgot to tell us how
much a liar she is, and how hateful.

Posted by: MS | October 12, 2008, 4:02 am 4:02 am

She is nothing more than a liar. She acts like “Miss Goody-Two Shoes”, but we can see right through her. Furthermore, her husband has no business getting involved in her job. He should stick to his fishing or whatever he does.

Posted by: Roberta Cox | October 12, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am

The only reason Palin didn’t “break the law” is because there is no law written on the books to deal with this type of crime. The very fact that Palin STILL will not admit she did wrong and continues to defend her actions speaks for itself. She is a dangerous person with no morals. She stands behind her so called Christianity and says she wouldn’t abort her baby like that alone will gain her a spot in heaven. I got news for ya honey God is looking for more than an abortion stand to get you in the door. Palin is one of the most deceitful underhanded politicians I’ve seen in my lifetime. Even her own mother-in-law said in August she wasn’t sure if she’d vote for her.

Posted by: Julie | October 12, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am

Whenever I think of Palin’s cheering crowds, I’m reminded of the three monkeys: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. But this time, the stench of Sarah’s Troopergate manure is so pungent, it requires a fourth monkey. Smell no evil will sit at the far right, pinching his nose.

Posted by: Mizaru | October 12, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

I’ve noticed that the issue of racism is now subdivided between acceptable and unacceptable race based attacks. I just read a few comments here that suggest that the outrage expressed at recent McCain rally is not racist because it was not directed against African Americans. I am sorry, but racism is racism no matter who the intended racial class victim might be. I offer as evidence the comments of people at a recent McCain rally. The statement of one “very intelligent” lady in the red sweater that “she was afraid because Obama was an Arab,” may not be enough to convince. Indeed, even republicans admit these comments are bogus and that there is always at least one nut-job at these rallies. However, according to the results of other interviews at the same rally, they all believed Obama was an Arab. So, for those who say that since black people were negatively affected by these “domestic terrorist” means that these attacks on the liberal candidate are not racially based, I think we need to delve into this a little deeper. It may not be McCain’s fault that he can not attract anyone to his rallies beside these hateful folks. However, he should start trying to connect his “political speak” with the results.

Posted by: jrc903 | October 12, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am

Among the current choices, Governor Palin is still the best choice for America! She will become the next Vice President of America.
Go Palin!!!!

Posted by: McKinsey | October 12, 2008, 5:19 am 5:19 am

Perhaps, Palin’s real purpose was exactly what we see, someone who appeals to the “lowest” common denominator(s) among us. People, like herself. People who claim to be God-fearing Christians but make no apologies for hating everyone that dares suggest that “the earth revolves around the sun.” So, to counter their antipathy, maybe we should remember what Jesus Christ taught about situations like this. That is, “we must turn the other cheek”, and allow these people to rant and rave— because to waste time debating them plays into John McCain’s strategy. Sarah’s only purpose is to act like the rodeo clown, but in this case, distract the American people from focus on the real issues.

Posted by: jrc903 | October 12, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am

Let me get this straight….There’s nothing unethical about abusing your authority? Doesn’t make sense to me.

Posted by: Nancy | October 12, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

McCain/Palin Scares me and should Scare all Democrats.Under the Republicans the past 8 years, we have lost more rights then probrobly any other time in America’s History. The Taser is meant to be used when a Officers life is treatened.And is also a alternative to using a gun.Tasers are being used as a torture devise from what I see.How many Americans have been killed by the Taser? alot!Spying on fellow Americans, we all hear about it on the News.Vote No on the ballot to all Republicans and Vote yes To all Democrats, Keep Are Freedom alive!Vote Obama.

Posted by: Demo Rules | October 12, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am

McCain/Palin Scares me and should Scare all Democrats.Under the Republicans the past 8 years, we have lost more rights then probrobly any other time in America’s History. The Taser is meant to be used when a Officers life is treatened.And is also a alternative to using a gun.Tasers are being used as a torture devise from what I see.How many Americans have been killed by the Taser? alot!Spying on fellow Americans, we all hear about it on the News.Vote No on the ballot to all Republicans and Vote yes To all Democrats, Keep Are Freedom alive!Vote Obama.

Posted by: McCain/Palin Scare Me | October 12, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am

If Mrs. Palin was a doctor, would her husband be allowed into her office and fire her staff? If Mrs. Palin was a manager at McDonalds, would her husband be allowed into her office to harass her staff? If Mrs. Palin was a primary ed teacher would her her husband be allowed into her classroom to harass her aide?
This is about power and nepotism and a state government that has allowed a family to ascend to monarchy. How can any argument be made that there has not been violations of power and position. If she did not have power and position would Mr. Palin also see it as appropriate that he could co-lead (as a best friend?) a class room, a restaurant, a library? Why is or was this even allowed?

Posted by: Ana | October 12, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am

reddog, you’ve obviously never worked for a big corporation. Over the last eleven years, the increase in cost of living has far outpaced the increase in my pay. Giving my company a 10% tax break isn’t going to increase my pay or anyone else’s. It’s just going to allow the company to put more people in my position, so that their shareholders (people who actually have money to invest, unlike we employees) get richer on our backs while we fall farther and farther behind. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
There’s another way to create jobs– Put more money in the hands of 250 million poor and middle class people, and they’ll invest it and spend it on corporations, and then those corporations will create jobs. The GOP will never go for it, though, because rich people won’t get their cut off the top.

Posted by: Heliocracy | October 12, 2008, 7:38 am 7:38 am

What the report says is Gov. Palin is guilty of a ethics violation. Apparently the reason she doesn’t read newspapers or magazines, is she can’t read !

Posted by: tom cassidy | October 12, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Palin = SOCIOPATH

Posted by: Lily Bell | October 12, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I have been watching a lot of interview clips of Sarah Palin over the weekend. I truly am amazed at her ignorance. So many of her answers were so rambling that it was just embarassing to watch. If John McCain thinks this was the best choice in a VP, then he has absolutely no business being President.

Posted by: Lily Bell | October 12, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

If she’s such a stupid woman, why are you Libs still so afraid of her?
“Alaskans are calling for a complete and fair investigation into why Walt Monegan was fired and if it had anything to do with trooper Mike Wooten,” Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau
“Steve Branchflower is a highly respected prosecutor and public servant,” said Sen. Hollis French, D-Anchorage.
(Notice the “Ds”)
Branchflower was Anchorage DA while Monegan was police chief. Branchflower’s wife also was a detective under Monegan.
Couldn’t they have found a truly impartial party from the lower 48 (or even Canada for that matter)? Obviously, they didn’t want to.
Also, Monegan was originally quoted as saying that he wasn’t fired by Palin. Actually, she tried to re-assign him but he resigned. After the fact, he became convinced that he had been fired…huh?
I’m still trying to track down the politics of the people on this panel.
This was a milk-toast finding. They said enough to discredit her, but not enough to be easily dismissed by a court. It’s like punching a pillow.
However, the possible role of Mr. Palin’s involvement is cause for concern.
But…I don’t hear much about Hillary’s assignment to put together that oh-so-wonderful health care plan when she was First Lady, nor her involvement in TravelGate.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | October 12, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

I heard the other day someone calling Palin nothing but a Bush in a skirt. It will be a very sad and scary day IF they should happen to win. All this because a black man is running for President. Who gives a hoot, he has every right just as McCain. He’s got more smarts in his little finger than the whole bodies of McCain/Palin put together. McCain/Palin has the answer to everything and the solution to nothing. Their out there spilling their guts and not even agreeing on the same issues, one says one thing the other says another, give me a break. This Troopergate thing ain’t nothing but Palin sticking her nose into the sisters business it’s like I’m the Govener I can do what I want, and letting that husband of hers do most the dirty work. Not cool. Yup, a sad and scary day indeed should they happen to win.

Posted by: lawwal | October 12, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Posted by: Patty | October 12, 2008, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Palin: More of the same game. She is guilty. Instead of ranting, why not spend the time to read the report. She is guilty and a liar, and this is just the tip of the proverbial Alaskan iceberg.

Posted by: Acara | October 12, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am

partisan lynching committee went after SARAH/ things are done differently in ALASKA/ she had scumbag,wife beater thrown out, , good for HER/what is wrong with AMERICAs principles

Posted by: mike guyton | October 12, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko and I approve this message.

Posted by: Rezko | October 12, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am

I love it! The Obama lap dogs have been going CRAZY about Palin!
Rabid lap dogs! AAARPHH, AARPH,
go get your bone now, under your masters desk!
little black bone! LOL

Posted by: . | October 12, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am

don’t know what’s more scary, the cover up by the MSM for Obama, or his brainwashed Nazi Youth supporters like Bethb, who typically respond to any questioning of their Messiah with an angry barrage of hate filled insults.
Guess what Obots, your candidate was never vetted at all and has run the most corrupt campaign in history.
Better get used to people like Natasha, and millions of others who will only make sure to find out about Obama especially if he does steal the Presidency.
get used to it. He will never escape the upcoming scrutiny.

Posted by: pat | October 12, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Going back to all the talk about him being a Muslim. His given name at birth was Barry. I don’t know the Muslim faith, but I am pretty sure it would be a disgrace for an American to take a Muslim name just for the heck of it. Cassius Clay became Muslim…Mohammed Ali. Barry Obama became Barack Hussein Obama….sounds Muslim to me.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 12, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

In 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He has been
very open about
his two years at Occidental, where he admits using drugs and generally
wasting his time,
but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his
studies.
“Barry” (that was the name he used all his life), during his time at at
Occidental,
had two roommates… Muhammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from
Pakistan.
During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a
’round the world’ trip,
stopping first to see his mother in Indonesia. Next stop… Hyderabad,
India and then three
weeks in
Karachi, Pakistan, where he stayed with his roommate’s family. Finally, it
was off to Africa
to visit his father’s family.
My question is – Where did he get the money for such a trip? Nether I,
nor any one of my
children
would have had money for a trip like this when they were in college.
When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York .
It was at this time he began wanting everyone to call him Barack, not
Barry.
Do you have any idea what tuition is at Columbia ? It’s not cheap, to
say the least.
Where did he get money for t
uition? Student Loans? Maybe…
After Columbia , he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for
$12,000 a year.
Why Chicago?… Why not New York ? After all, he was already living in
New York.
By “chance” he met Antoin “Tony” Rezko, born in Aleppo, Syria, who was a
real estate
developer in Chicago.
Rezko was convicted of fraud and bribery just this year. Rezko had been
named “Entrepreneur
of the Decade”
by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association. About two
years later, Obama
entered Harvard Law School.
Do you have any idea what tuition at Harvard Law School costs? Where did
he get the money for
law school anyway?
More student loans?
After Law school, he went back to Chicago . Rezko offered him a job, which
he turned down.
But he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland and… guess
what? They
represented “Rezar,” Rezko’s firm.
Tony Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he
ran for office in
Illinois.
In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama, which Chicago Tribune
reporter David
Mendelland
claims was instrumental in providing Obama with “seed money” for his U.S.
Senate race.
In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in the Kenwwod neighborhood in
Chicago.
for $1.65 million (significantly less than market price). With ALL those
st
udent loans to
repay,
how did he qualify for a mortgage? Where did he get the money for the
property?
On the same day Rezko’s wife,Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for
full price.
The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born billionaire,
loaned Rezko $3.5
million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama had met
Nadhmi Auchi
on many occasions with Rezko.
Now, Barack Obama is running for President of the United States. Valerie
Jarrett, who was
Michele Obama’s boss, is now Obama’s chief advisor and he reportedly does
no t make any major
decisions
without talking to her first. So… where was Jarrett born?
Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern emerging here… or am
I simply going
crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama was
“sacked” after the
press found
out he was having regular contact with the Islamic terrorist organization,
Hamas, which has
undeniable political links to Iran.
Only this past week, buried on the back pages of some American newspapers,
Iraqi newspapers
reported that,
during Obama’s recent visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing
about the war
until after he is elected, and he will “take care of things.”
Oh… and by the way… remember the college roommates that where born
in Pakistan? They are i
n charge of all Obama’s “small” Internet campaign
contributions.
But where are they all coming from… the poor, the disenfranchised and
the middle class in
this country?
Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news… On September 7, 2008, The Washington
Times posted a verbal slip that was made on “This Week” with George
Stephanapoulos. Obama, while talking about his religion, said, “my Muslim
faith”. When questioned, the response was that he had simply made a
mistake.
All of the above information I found from sources online. If you would
like to
check it, please feel free to do so: Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack
Obama; Tony Rezko;
Valerie
Jarrett: Daily Times – Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington
Times
- September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIGGEST question of all… If I was able to find all this
information on my
own, why is it that all of the members of our ‘unbiased’ press haven’t
been reporting this?
Two
phrases keep ringing in my ears – “Beware of the enemy from within!” and
“Follow the money.”
Perhaps the media is ignoring these troubling facts because they are
concentrating so hard on
personally attacking
and mocking Sara Palin’s record as Governor and as a mother!
Also remember… Obama’s mentor during his formative years=2
0when he lived
in Hawaii was a
registered communist party member. And check out his affiliation with
ACORN… the radical group that
played a large role in today’s financial problems and continues to play a
role in the push to get
their candidate, Barack Obama, elected in November.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 12, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am

This is one of the many chain emails I receive daily.

Posted by: mccainpres08 | October 12, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

We need a leader like Sarah Paline in America now. She will be a great president and a great leader.Obama is not a leader, all he talks is this is wrong and that is wrong everything is wrong obout America for him. If he find so much wrong, he should move to Kenya,to his muslim cousin Odinga. We dont need Obama and we dont need Michelle.Every day he insults us Americans.
I’ll say one thing about Obama; he has managed to rally together the most nasty people in the country together to build his coalition. Just read your own blogs right here–nothing but hate filled personal attacks. The more you people speak, the more votes your candidate loses.

Posted by: . | October 12, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Obama-bots remind me of Mao’s Red Guards. It’s a cult of personality. Ready to mindlessly act on anything the great helmsman says, with no regard to logic, reason or morals

Posted by: pat | October 12, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

How do you Palin supporters explain her claims that the report clears her of all wrongdoing?
Is she is a pathological liar?
Is she is delusional?
She can’t see?
She can see but she can’t read?
Or is it something else?

Posted by: Rudy | October 12, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

I can’t believe she is still saying she did nothing unethical….the report clearly states that she has!!! She must be dipping into Cindy’s pills!

Posted by: imo | October 12, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

The fatal error of this entire probe is the claim that it was in Palin’s personal interest to question Wooten keeping his job and not in the public interest. Read the report and you will find that it was in the public interest. If it’s not, I suggest we take a real good look at the standards we expect from our law enforcement.
The other problem with the report is that her “abuse” is in “allowing” (not provable) Todd Palin to bug Monegan about Wooten. This is a stretch to say the least, and again, the assumption is that this action was in private and not public interest. I personally do not want cops like Wooten working in law enforcement.

Posted by: Mike | October 12, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

It seems like this woman wouldn’t know what is ethical if it hit her in the butt. Whatever it takes to advance her career is ethical. She has all the earmarks of a pathological liar … she’d look right atcha with those limpid doe eyes and lie right thru her teeth and fully expect you to be stupid enough to be taken in by her. Unfortunately, too many Conservatives have been hoodwinked by this con woman who makes up for her lack of intellect with a mastery in the art of deceit.

Posted by: annaloh | October 12, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On Todd & Sarah Palin’s America Hating Alaska Independent Party….
AIP: The Alaskan Independence Party
Todd & Sarah Palin’s Hatefilled, Secessionist Party,
The 3rd largest Political Party in alaska, Todd Palin was a Member for 7 Years and is Not a registered Republican.
Demand that Sarah & Todd Palin Renounce and Denounce the Anti-American-Secessionist beliefs and teachings …
Newsweek Magazine …
Please, I’m Begging You NewsWeek, Put Sarah and Todd Palin to task for their Anti-American Connections.
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler,
“I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website,
“I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States.
Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.
The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that,
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.”
He cursed the stars and stripes, promising,
“I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
Palin has never Ddenounced Vogler or his Detestable Aanti-Americanism.
Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002.
Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.”
While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the [AIP's 1994 convention] where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.
The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended [AIP's 2000 Convention].
She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the [AIP's 2006 convention] and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention.
In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska.
In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

Posted by: o. | October 12, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Mccain with all his Obama Attacks is in the Red in Florida and I don’t mean Red as a Good thing either….
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/53812.html
Even Gov. Charlie Crist, who helped deliver Florida for McCain during the primary, said he will spend the final weeks before Election Day minding the state’s weak economy rather than campaigning for the Arizona senator.
”When I have time to help, I’ll try to do that,” Crist said last week, after he flew around the state with McCain running mate Sarah Palin. Saturday, he skipped a McCain football rally and instead went to Disney World.
Once considered a potential running mate, Crist had pledged to do all he could for McCain and spent several days this summer campaigning for the Republican nominee in and outside Florida. He faults the tough economic times for McCain’s difficult time in Florida, where he trails rival Barack Obama by about 5 percentage points in the polls.
No Republican has won the White House in modern times without carrying Florida. The last to lose the state was McCain’s former colleague, Sen. Bob Dole, in 1996. Some Republicans say the state party hasn’t done enough, while others blame McCain’s national campaign.
Roger Stone, a longtime McCain supporter, said the state party and the national campaign bear almost equal blame.
”This effort lacks coordination and a cooperative spirit and it’s showing,” Stone said. “But it’s more than mechanics. The campaign has no consistent message.”
Over the summer, the Obama camp spent at least $10 million on Florida television ads ??? 4,000 of the spots attacking McCain ??? while McCain spent nothing.
The failure by the party and McCain’s campaign to respond to an Obama radio ad in Florida that bashed McCain over embryonic stem-cell research was ”a perfect example of them not being on the ball in Florida,” Stone said, echoing numerous Florida Republicans.
But national campaign officials said McCain is within striking distance of Obama in the polls, has ample time to turn things around, and had a winning strategy until Wall Street’s crash.
——————————-
AIP: The Alaskan Independence Party
Todd & Sarah Palin’s Hatefilled, Secessionist Party, The 3rd largest Political Party in alaska, Todd Palin was a Member for 7 Years and is Not a registered Republican. Demand that Sarah & Todd Palin Renounce and Denounce the Anti-American-Secessionist beliefs and teachings …
Newsweek Magazine …
Please, I’m Begging You NewsWeek, Put Sarah and Todd Palin to task for their Anti-American Connections.
AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”
Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!
So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

Posted by: o. | October 12, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

mccainpres08, you are the finest example of a Conservative ignoramus. How many times must someone hit you over the head before you understand plain English … Obama is a CHRISTIAN and an AMERICAN citizen who at a young age has spurned the high life of a lucrative legal career to work for the greater good of this country. He is not perfect … nobody is, but he is the closest thing to an intelligent, thoughtful, articulate President that we have. Certainly not McCain who graduated bottom of his class, destroyed airplanes through his own admitted recklessness and is now fumbling all over the place during this election campaign. And certainly not Palin, the self-professed pitbull who has been caught in abusing the power of her office and is consistently saying something stupid every time she opens her mouth without a prepared script … she is the greatest National joke we’ve ever had the misfortune of witnessing. And yet, idiots like you follow like lemmings foaming at the mouth.

Posted by: annaloh | October 12, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Mike…In regarding that she was “allowing” Todd to bug Monegan (and others) about Wooten..Todd said that he and his wife were “very close” and “each others best friend”. Just the fact that he had carte blanche where the Governor’s office was concerned and cc’d on all official State correspondence and sat in on most all official meetings also leads me to believe otherwise. That, I think, is totally unethical. We did not vote him in as Governor or “Shadow Governor”. I agree that Wooten is a horrible, demented person and should have been terminated a long time ago, but he is a member of a union and there are steps one must follow. The other question I have is, if she was so afraid of him, why did she cut her security detail?

Posted by: imo | October 12, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Mike,
Tell me what your explanation is for Sarah Palin stating that the Troopergate report clears her “of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.”

Posted by: Open Mike | October 12, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

She was guilty, guilty, guilty! She and McShame are both ethically challenged. Why is this so hard to believe? They are both republicans, what did you expect? Lying, Cheating, Abusing power, that is a typical republican!
President Obama! Get used to it!

Posted by: Independent realist | October 12, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

so who is really going to be VP IF she’s elected, her or her husband? it could be her momma or her dad, but we know it wont be her making decisions. think about it. her husband using airforce 1 to go pick up his friends to goto the superbowl and all she say is “you betcha”

Posted by: antoine | October 12, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

Obama the magic negro is going to prison.
I’m Tony Rezko and I approve this message

Posted by: Rezko | October 12, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

SARAH PALIN IS GUILTY OF ABUSE OF AUTHORITY BY A BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION – 10 REPUBLICANS AND 4 DEMOCRATS – THE VERDICT IS IN- SHE VIOLATED HER POSITION AND SHE LIED TO COVER HER ACTIONS!!!!! SHE MAY BE IMPEACHED !!!!
The Networks and the McCain Campaign is lying again by saying this was a Partisan decision by the democrats. Just because you are an at-will(can fire for no reason) employee does not mean you can abuse your authority for personal vendettas. They need to fess up and grow up and take responsibility for their actions. This recent decision can bring further and future charges that could lead to censure and/or impeachment of Governor Palin. She is guilty of Abusing her authority as a trusted Government official and she based her qualifications for Vice President and for being a heartbeat away from the Presidency on her experience. She has lied about the reasons for firing the commissioner on several occasions. She personally defamed his character and libelously attacked his creditability without regard to the effect on him and his family for pure political gain and basically projecting herself as a moral Christian with nothing to hide. She initially said that he went on a trip unauthorized until ABC produced the document that said otherwise. Her constituents were not in agreement with her intimidating and threatening tactics, but carried them out for fear of their jobs. She had her husband run meetings and help in this attack even though he is not authorized and she overstepped her authority. She gave him permission to be her strong arm and he is clearly connected to and was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party created by Joe Vogler who was a radical Anti-American terrorist and she tried to appoint one of the radical terrorist, John Stein, to head City Council but it was rejected by the people. She used intimidation, manipulation and domination to run her position and that is illegal.
She has no creditability. She has no integrity. You cannot believe anything that she says.
It is blatantly clear that she is not qualified for Vice President, or President and now that
this decision has been confirmed and brought out, it is clear she is not even qualified for Governor either. I am also glad that they are looking into her paying herself taxpayer money for daily per diems including weekends to stay at home. The majority of the people I know work in a different city than where they live, however, they do not get per diems. She took thousands of taxpayers dollars. This is not a woman you want elected and she does not represent true Christianity.

Posted by: American for Change | October 12, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

I love the comments demanding ABC show more Obama controversy as a result of this story…
Umm…we already have heard about Obama and Rezko, Ayers, etc.. that stuff was ALL OVER THE NEWS a long time ago. Most of it was exaggerated!
This though, well, this is a real story from reputable sources. See the difference?
Sarah, is that what all the winking meant? You weren’t telling the real truth?

Posted by: Matt | October 12, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

So having been found guilty of violating the Ethics Act, she then lied about that?
Color me surprised.

Posted by: JP | October 12, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

To all of you IGNORANT PalinBots….
The Good Citizens of Alaska are going to start IMPEACHMENT proceedings very soon. Not only will her and McShame lose the bid for the White House, but Princess Stalin will be IMPEACHED as Gov of Alaska.
This ain’t over by a LONG SHOT.
READ the Article in the Village Voice”
The Book of Sarah (Palin)
Strafing the Palin record
By Wayne Barrett
Wednesday, October 8th 2008
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-08/news/the-book-of-sarah/
Talk about “Good ‘ol Boy’s”…she is at the top of the pyramid! And wait until the IRS is done with her too!!

Posted by: MsRotten | October 12, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

McCain can still win. Drop Palin, reach accross the isle and beg Hillary to join his ticket. He would win in a landslide…

Posted by: Steve | October 13, 2008, 4:50 am 4:50 am

People think about it!She could be the President!Can you imagine her in the White House.I thought the last president couldn’t get any worse.It is neither Republican or Democrat.It is America we need to think about.A hockey mom running the country.We all should be afraid.

Posted by: chris | October 13, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Where is the fact stated that the Trooper used a tazer on a 10 year old child…? The guy was a maniac and Palin should have been trying to get him removed as part of her responsibility since everyone else turned a blind eye. Just like the Liberal Media is doing now!

Posted by: starmanres | October 13, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am

Palin DID NOT break the law…and that should be the head line.
*
Not according to the report, that states she did. Guilty of Abuse of Authority, voted on by 10 Republicans and 4 Democrats. Even if you like her, you can’t make it go away by being passive aggressive and pointing fingers at Obama.

Posted by: Vic | October 13, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

“Where is the fact stated that the Trooper used a tazer on a 10 year old child…?”
If true, it will be dealt with, but I’m too use to Republicans lying, playing passive aggressive and trying to redirect blame.

Posted by: Vic | October 13, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

…and we need 12 adults to determine that this was an ethics violation because…..???

Posted by: RJR | October 13, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Before you embraced the Branchflower’s OPINION as a verdict, read the rebuttal of Governor Sarah Palin’s lawyers.
Briefly, Palin’s lawyers concluded that Mr. Branchflower, the INVESTIGATOR in charge, overstepped his authority to render his verdict that “Governor Palin abused her power”.
I am quoting here an excerpt from the rebuttal from Mrs. Palin’s lawyers:
“As the Branchflower essentially concedes, and as Governor Palin has maintained for some time, ONLY THE PERSONNEL BOARD CAN MAKE A LAWFUL DETERMINATION whether the Governor violated the ethics acts. Mr. Branchflower’s OPINION is simply that.[...]
To be clear: THERE HAS BEEN NO OFFICIAL FINDING AT ALL ABOUT GOVERNOR PALIN’S ACTION. One man concluded that he was the investigator, the jury and the judge, all in one. Mr. Branchflower refused to allow the Governor to confront her accusers and cross examine them. He refused to allow her lawyer to attend witness deposition. He “investigated” in secret. These are funamental aspects of due process he ignored.[...]
Put bluntly, Branchflower misapplied the Ethics Acts and has sought to create a headline to smear the Governor.”
You can get more details at the following link:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/11/response.branchflower.report.pdf
So, learn to read both sides of the argument before jumping to conclusion.

Posted by: nononsense08 | October 14, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

This story should be titled, “Palin states that she doesn’t know what “wrong” and “unethical” mean.”

Posted by: Dave | October 19, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

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