Palin Silent on Supreme Court Question
ABC News’ Ariane de Vogue Reports: In an interview with CBS’s Katie Couric on "The Evening News" Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin could not cite a Supreme Court decision she thinks was wrongly decided besides Roe v. Wade.
In the interview, Palin refereed vaguely to the "great history of America" but neglects to mention some of the most historic decisions that have troubled many Americans.
A few example might be:
–Dred Scott v. Sanford 1857 which held that blacks–slaves or free–could not be or become U.S. citizens
–Plessy v. Ferguson 1896 the court upheld racial segregation under the doctrine separate but equal
–Korematsu v. United States 1944 upheld the internment orders for Americans of Japanese descent during World War II
The vice presidential candidate seemed to have forgotten that three months ago she criticized the courts ruling in Exxon Shipping v. Baker which gutted a damages award after the 1989 oil spill. At the time she released a statement saying,
"While the decision brings some degree of closure to Alaskans suffering from 19 years of litigation and delay, the Court gutted the jury’s decision on punitive damages."
Palin also failed to mention some cases recently decided which have troubled her running mate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. For instance last term, the court overturned a Louisiana law allowing the death penalty for someone who rapes but does not kill a child. McCain said the decision was "an assault on law enforcement efforts to punish these heinous felons."
And McCain called last term’s Boumediene decision which found that detainees held in Guantanamo Bay had a constitutional right to challenge their detention in U.S. courts, "One of the worst decisions in the history of this country."
Palin did say she thinks there is an inherent right to privacy in the constitution, a notion that Chief Justice John Roberts shared in his confirmation hearing without commenting directly on Roe.
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., who appeared on the Wednesday program in a separate interview, when asked which case he thought was wrongly decided, referred to but did not name United States v. Morrison in which the court overturned portions of the Violence Against Women Act, legislation that Biden had spearheaded.
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Posted by: Will | October 1, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Shouldnt the headline read “Palin Silent on EVERY question?”
Posted by: sue | October 1, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
The woman has zero interest and knowledge about America, it’s history or foreign policy.
Unfortunately many of her supporters don’t care about any of them either.
Posted by: Truth Matters | October 1, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
More gotcha journalism:
now, ms couric, are you trying to raise your dismal ratings to support your collosal failure going from Today to the evening news? How about this? Why don’t you ask Obama what newspapers he reads? Are you afraid of being called racist if you did ask him that? Why target Palin? what kind of stupid quesiton is that?
Ms couric you will always be fluff, and your biased treatment of the mccain campaign will not support your meager credentials as a fluff journalist.
Posted by: liberati | October 1, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Quick name me 3 superme court cases………..from 1972…….go
Posted by: jmdady | October 1, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
This is embarrassing for America.
She seems like a nice lady but Sarah Palin is simply out of her league.
Can you really imagine her as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?!
Posted by: Kirk | October 1, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Is McCain going to show up at the debate to support his soul mate?
Posted by: doug | October 1, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
It’s just so offensive that until she accepted the VP nod, she didn’t really show interest (outside of Alaska) in anything having to do with our country…our history, our troubles with the economy, our allies, our laws.
She comes across as a self-obsorbed woman who thinks she can get by on her being a woman and attacking Obama…oh, and “zingers”. As if having the best “zinger” is going to validate her readiness for the job.
She knows she’s not ready, but very selfishly and for her own political gain, she’s determined.
This is so offensive.
Posted by: tanya | October 1, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
She should just quit. She just does not have what it takes to be even the VP, forget about the presidency.
I feel sorry for her.
Posted by: Eric Totter | October 1, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
i dont care what she knows or doesnt know; i care that she is from middle america and has our values at heart. she is not dogmatic; she is practical. and i care about the issues that confront this country not about passing a journalist’s pop quiz.
from a social studies teacher in louisiana
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
all journalism should be gotcha journalism. Palin is obviously an idiot.
Posted by: Eric | October 1, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Gee..If these questions were directed at Obama, I wonder what his answers might be?
Huh, huh, huh, oh, oh, oh..
That’s CORRECT Sen. Obama!
Posted by: Voter In America | October 1, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Isn’t that kind of like voting “present”? At least she didn’t say it was above her pay grade…….OY!
Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | October 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
ps. the journalists have their research teams look up the questions and they hold the answer document. i have known several of them and they are not the brightest bulbs in the pack: they are news readers, period.
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Sarah you are only a lipstick tube of a candidate, Ms Couric could have asked you many tougher questions but instead allowed you to come up with a case, ANY case, but you flumberedstumbled. Gotcha is only gothca if you dont have an answer…any answer. Thank you to Moravian College an Prof. J Reynolds for making me write so many reviews of courts cases during summer Constitutional law class! I know more than a V.P. candidate. Take away her lipstick and she’s got nothing.
Posted by: scott Garner | October 1, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
It does not surprise me that Palin has no knowledge about Supreme Court rulings. She has never been on national stage until now.
I confess I do not know all the Supreme Court rulings, either. But I am not running for the VP!!
The idea for her being a VP is like a successful local grocery store owner tries run an international company.
Posted by: CT | October 1, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
This was a political choice – and not much thought was put into the decision to pick Sarah Palin. She is an airhead, and he might as well have picked Paris Hilton.
The sad part of this picture is that she is not bright enough to see that she is a “fool” – and how silly she looks – If I ever thought I was out of my comfort zone as she is, I would back out -
Posted by: patricia burkhart | October 1, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Yeah defintely no Hillary clinton. This is just sad. I disagree with the supreme court’s decision in 2000 to make George W Bush president.
Posted by: rachel | October 1, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
and biden saw fdr on t.v
Posted by: colorado | October 1, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
“Palin Silent on Supreme Court Question”? If only she had been…
Posted by: rst | October 1, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Could ANY Obama supporters name one Obama’s interview that had ANY substance besides his empty suit?
Think about this, he is very slick ONLY with “printed materials on the teleprompters.” Otherwise, he is going to huh, huh, huh, oh, oh, oh…
Posted by: Voter In America | October 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Well she brought up Roe v. Wade. What did they want? For her to recite the ruling?
Posted by: PalinRocks | October 1, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“and, like, such as”
Posted by: rst | October 1, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Robert, you seem to know so much about Palin you must go to the same church…..
Posted by: PalinRocks | October 1, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
liberati: I dislike Katie Couric, but I don’t think Gov. Palin is being targeted on account of her sex or her political views.
Gov. Palin is being asked these questions because, until McCain chose her as his running mate, she was unknown outside of Alaska. We still know very little about her.
I guarantee you that if Barak Obama had selected a running mate as little-known as Gov. Palin, he or she would be get the same questions from Couric — fluff, but an attempt to find out who that person was.
Posted by: Alex | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Neither the so-called journalist and monitor-head Couric or Gibson could carry Palin’s dirty underwear. They are so full of themselves. Yet,neither brings much to the table on any given day. Just so much grade b Hollywood fluff.
Posted by: j greenlee | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I can see the moon from my house. I’m now qualified for space walk!!!!
You got to be kidding. Sarah Palin is the most unqualify VP candidate ever. What was McCain thinking. Certaintly not the country first.
Posted by: hoosier | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
jimmy carter knew everything and was an ineffective president; obama claims to know everything–so did bush–and the latter was a disaster and i am betting the former would be too. can you define former and latter? who cares if you can? the press is out of control.
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Perhaps Joe 6 Pack could not answer that question but for someone who wants to be one of the top two leaders in this country? I find it sickening that she is not capable.
Someone said shame on Couric but there is no shame in knowing and doing your job..unlike Palin who can’t do her’s apparently. Reach a little too far there Queen of the Moose hunters?
Posted by: Debbie | October 1, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
To you think tanks who believe this is another example of “gotcha journalism”, what is so wrong about asking a VP candidate about past supreme court decisions? As someone who could conceivably become the President, don’t you think it might be just a teeny weeny bit fair to ask her which decisions she might be in agreement with-particularly if she might have to one day appoint a justice or two? Nevermind, I’m just happy that she actually knew what the supreme court is. Have our standards for a candidate’s insight and interest into national /world affairs sunk so far that we are okay with electing this no subtance cardboard cutout to the whitehouse?
Posted by: cbot2255 | October 1, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
she could have cited Gore vs. Bush
a decision that has resulted in the bankrupting of America, an unnecessary war, and a President who now has the lowest level of approval in the history of the USA.
Posted by: Gus | October 1, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
in miranda v arizona the supreme court ruled that those arrested must be read their rights. is this an absolute right? must the police read one’s rights in every arrest? cameras blaring, millions watching…now you answer.
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Robert, sweetie I’m simply commenting on your asute personal knowledge of who Gov. Palin is. I figured if you knew that much about her you probably know her on a social level such as church outings and whatnot….
Posted by: PalinRocks | October 1, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
time is up. the police are only obligated to read suspects their rights in felony cases. that is seventh grade social studies….and you didn’t know it. what has this world come to?
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Voter in America,
It appears that you are a Palin supporter. Can you name something Palin said is intelligent in any interview she gave??
BTW, she did give a great speech that Bush’s writer wrote for her during the GOP convention.
Posted by: A Voter | October 1, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Palin is woefully unqualified and unprepared for the office of vice-president. I am truly embarrassed for John McCain for picking this woman. She is a trainwreck.
Posted by: Gina | October 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
For those of you who think this is gotcha journalism, how’d you feel about Palin’s inability to name a single newspaper or magazine that reads regularly? Still more gothca? Quit apologizing and admit it: she’s not qualified. She lacks the kind of curiosity about our country that is frighteningly on par with the person whose seat she seaks (and for those Palin apologists who think I just made a gaffe, think about who’s really been running the joint up there the last 8 years and who’s just been along for the photo-ops).
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
McCain’s pick for V.P. is an embarrassment, and while the rest of the free world shakes its head in amazement we all shake in our boots at the spectre of this shrill,snotty airhead’s finger on the nuclear button. God help America
Posted by: thorninurside | October 1, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Palin called herself a “Federalist”. Isn’t that the exact opposite of what she was trying to say. A Federalist is for a strong central government; not each state deciding its own laws. But then I’m not running for VP.
Posted by: bill | October 1, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Well Palin says it is a States issue then in the same breath she says she is a Federalist in repect to THAT ISSUE. She doesn’t even know what she is a blabben at Ya…
Federalist
Specifically: (a) Composed of states or districts which retain only a subordinate and limited sovereignty
Posted by: Kim | October 1, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Even if the media is playing Gotcha!, which it isn’t…if she can’t handle Katie, how is she going to handle Putin and other world leaders. Are we going to blame Putin for being too tough on McCain’s girl? Palin and McCain are high risks, a risk we can no longer afford to take. Maybe McCain should have picked Katie for his VP pick.
Posted by: John | October 1, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
i think that there is a good chance Paulin can be a president of the America. this is too scary…She isn’t smart at all, she is just a hockey mom from Alaska with 350,000 population (less then in bronx)…
Posted by: sb | October 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Liberati: “Biased treatment of the McCain campaign”
She posed the exact same questions about the supreme court to Biden.
If you can put aside party politics for a second, you would have to admit Palin is not ready. You can claim it is ‘gotcha’ journalism, but she knew in advance she was going to be interviewed, it is irrelevant what questions Katie Couric asked her, Palin should be prepared. I do not expect her to know the answers to every question, but I do expect her to sound intelligent when she does respond– She does not!
Posted by: John | October 1, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Nice job there Robert, but stick to what you know, and it’s not constitutional law. Miranda rights extend apply to anyone who is in a custodial interrogation. The offense (i.e., the reason the person is in custody) is unimportant.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
The world is facing the worst crisis after The Great Depression and to take America and the whole world out of this should be the top priority of the next president.This great job requires leadership,skill and understanding of economic issues.John McCain has already showed his ignorance on these issues.I can only sympathise with those conservatives who still thinks that Palin has the qualifications to be the VP and Commander in Chief if need arises.Only God can save america from the Conservatives and Palin maniacs!!
Posted by: Shashi Panikar | October 1, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Ron, if you truly are a social studies teacher, your post is one of the saddest things I’ve read in a long time.
You said, “i dont care what she knows or doesnt know; i care that she is from middle america and has our values at heart.”
I agree it’s important to pick candidates who shares one’s core values, but to dismiss lack of knowledge as unimportant is sheer folly. You’re a teacher, and you don’t care if a vice-president — a potential president — is ignorant?
Any citizen of this nation should be able to refer to a couple of Supreme Court cases, something I and my children learned in junior high and high school. It’s not a “pop quiz” or unfair to ask Gov. Palin to do so. She was asked to name a few, not provide detailed legal analysis.
Governor Palin’s inability to answer this question — on top of some similar poor performances — shows that she’s just not up to the job she aspires to.
Posted by: Lia | October 1, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Seems there is another john here, but we seem to agree for the most part. I’d be happy if she’d just ANSWER all the questions, kinda hard on her without McCain there holding her hand.
Posted by: Independent John | October 1, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Here are the QUESTIONS should be asked of Obama:
On Economy: Obama blamed on the deregualtions for the financial crisis, what DEREGULATIONS cause the current financial crisis and what consequences of those deregulations cause the Wall Street Bankcrupt?
On Jobs: Obama BLAMED the Bush Adm for “shifting” jobs oversea. He proposed MORE UNIONS to keep jobs here.
How does MORE UNIONIZATION make us more COMPETITIVE with Foreign’s market to strengthen our econmy?
On Taxes: Obama said his tax plan would cut taxes for 95% of American. If that is the case, then how many Americans shouldn’t pay any taxes?
Those are IMPORTANT questions that Obama needs to answer to the American Voters.
Posted by: Voter In America | October 1, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
It is time for Sarah Palin to recuse herself to spend more time with her family.
Posted by: AliceJ | October 1, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
To the person who wrote that Obama would not know supreme court rulings — you are extremely ignorant my friend. He was a law professor (and president of Harvard Law Review). He passed the bar — better than JFK Jr, anyway. So while you may not agree with him, at least criticize facts. He has faced unscripted interviews and debates numeruos times.
Ms. Palin had a very unimpressive higher education career. While I don’t think higher education is a sufficient qualification for higher office, I find it hard to believe that the Republicans could not have found someone with at least a B average from one of America’s outstanding educational institutions.
Posted by: daveforobama | October 1, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
oh, by the way, did a history check and the questions Katie asked were nearly the same questions she asked Biden. Only difference is, Biden answered them with intelligent answers. It has nothing to do with her being a hockey mom, or a women or even experience…it has to do with this, can you lead America? I’m afraid she isn’t ready, maybe in a couple decades, but not now. It wouldn’t be such a big deal if America wasn’t dying, but it is and she’s too dangerous to be a heartbeat away from the oval office.
Posted by: Independent John | October 1, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
To A Voter,
Right back at you!
Name somethings that Obama said anywhere w/out the teleprompters.
Huh..huh..oh…oh…
Posted by: Voter In America | October 1, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
The more commentators try to paint her as a backwater know-nothing hick the stronger she gets with middle America, I hope you are aware of that. So she isn’t as versed on Washington in’s and outs.. big deal. Most Governors aren’t, and that’s why McCain picked her cause she is an outsider. I’d take someone that is a bit new to the Washington scene as a VP for on the job training anyday to a green President who cites running his campaign for President as experience to become President. Obama is a socialist, and that’s not the direction most Americans want. Hence the publics rejection of the “bail out” plan. You want Socialism were the Governments punishment on the wealthy for their hardwork stagnats an economy, vote for Obama. You want Capitalism where you can actually make money and climg a ladder to success, vote for McCain… It’s that easy America!
Posted by: MiddleAmericaFYI | October 1, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Isn’t Sarah Palin a journalism major? I do not see how long McCain and company can keep saying all of these journalists are playing “gotcha. The sad fact is that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be anywhere near the White House.
Posted by: Brad | October 1, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I watched him walk around Ohio and many other campaign speeches with his hands in his pockets WITHOUT a teleprompter. So it’s your turn, when has Palin performed without a TP or earpiece?
Posted by: Independent John | October 1, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Here’s the problem for Palin supporters. They want to make the case that most Americans identify with her, that they see themselves in her, that she’s just one of the guys/gals. Now, after the Couric interviews, what most Americans see in Palin is indeed something easily identified, one of the guys/gals we know all too well: the one you’ve learned never to believe, and never to trust, because most of the time, she’s just spewing BS.
Posted by: rst | October 1, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I suppose the McCain campaign are just running out of excuses. Time for them to go to plan B…rig the election. I swear, Palin makes Bush look like a genius.
Posted by: Independent John | October 1, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I know the people of Alaska are proud of this person. They are in most part a fiercely independent lot, but in all do respect how in the hell did she get to be Governor. What in their minds did she reach a connect? Perky sound bites and being nice looking is all it took? She is now reflecting not only on McCains misjudgment but also on the people of Alaska and their mindset.
Posted by: Kim | October 1, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
MiddleAmericaFYI. A bit new to Washington??? Is that all it takes to buy your vote? Someone who is a bit new? Call me crazy, but why not throw in some intelligence, some awareness of external events, and maybe just the hint of comprehension of the issues of the day. By your standards (and McCain’s), who couldn’t be vice president?
Posted by: cbot2255 | October 1, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
having knowledge and being able to communicate it to a national audience must be difficult beyond belief to those new at the task.
her heart is good; her mind clear; she LOVES this country unlike some intellectuals i know and this liberal dem supports her.
and miranda applies only to felonies, period.
teacher 36 years
clinical professor
author
catholic deacon
past editor of university historical gazette
*and i do not care about what she knows but i do care about her ability to learn. those who think they know it all are dangerous.
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
yes .. we should only have LAWYERS as President and vice President.
I’d rather have some that studied OTHER than the law…
the lawyers have screwed up way too much already.
Posted by: earl lutz | October 1, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Ind. John, why just ask Obama those questions? Why not McCain too?
On Economy: the answer is Phil Gramm’s lobbying efforts led to the passage of several laws that helped to deregulate Wall Street, including a law commonly referred to as the “Enron Loophole,” which loosely translated, allows speculators to bet on which direction the price of oil will go. Nearly all economists believe that, if this loophole were closed, it would drive the cost of gasoline down almost overnight by 25% to 40%. Phil Gramm is a key advisor to McCain, though he was relieved of his “official” status after calling Americans whiners who were suffering from a “menal recession” just weeks before the blow-up on Wall Street 2 weeks ago.
On Jobs: Unionization will not necessarily create or keep jobs here, but it will allow those folks who work here to have better jobs. Take, for example, a certain “Big Box Retailer,” which makes you work 29.5 hours a week because it doesn’t have to pay insurance if you work fewer than 30 hours a week. A union would stop that, and those kinds of jobs are not going overseas, unless you think Americans will shop in Europe to save a few dollars on grab items.
On Taxes: Obama said his tax plan would cut taxes for 95% of American. That’s 100% true. The problem with your implied assumption is that the top pay the most in terms of actual dollars, so cutting taxes for the rest of us (A) is more helpful because $1,200 or so to me means a lot, but not so much to a guy who drives a Bentley or owns a yacht. McCain wants to give those guys the tax break. McCain’s tax cut is estimated to drain $300 billion from the budget, and if you think that’s a good idea, I’d vote for McCain. But so far, the idea that when the rich have a lot of money we all do better (the so- called “trickle-down” economy) hasn’t worked so well. Ever.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
First it was Gore’s election was “stolen” (if he’d have won his HOME STATE of Tennessee he would have won the election). Then Kerry was “swift-boated”. Now if McCain wins it will somehow be “stolen” again…. Give me a break. Maybe most Americans just dont like the mean spirited and leftest principles of the current Democratic party? But I guess being a Democrat by definition makes it easier to be a victim.
Posted by: middleamericafyi | October 1, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
To Voter In America,
Did you watch the debate between McCain and Obama last Friday? I do not think the debate organizer allowed any teleprompters in front of the candidates.
BTW, you have not answer my question yet.
Posted by: A Voter | October 1, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
How come every body think she should no about a court thing that did not concern her. Here in Wasilla we is tought to mind are own business. ……..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/01/rednecks-for-palin-wasilla-aa/
Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 1, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
This is another of Sen. McCain’s publicity stunts that’s backfiring on him. Sarah is great at snarky, sarcastic humor (like Joan Rivers), but Sarah hasn’t evolved beyond serving McCain as a publicity stunt brought into the campaign to develop and entertain giddy fans.
Posted by: Pat L | October 1, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Please let this poor woman alone. It is too painful too see in writing what she has said – she is speaking in tongues out arising from an inner sense of panic. The kindest thing that could be done for her and for the nation would be to let her go back to Alaska where she was comfortable. She is a fish out fo water and we should blame McCain for placing her in this tortured position. She lives a daily nightmare that we have all had of being in the public spotight and not knowing what to say. She doesn’t deserve it and neither do we.
Posted by: jefflz | October 1, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
To Voter in Am.,
I can name a speech Obama gave that was intelligent and done without a teleprompter. I met Mr. Obama personally one year ago this past June. It was at a private residence. I was so impressed with him (no teleprompters, he just spoke from the heart) that I later switched my allegience from the Republican Party (I voted for a ticket with someone named “Bush” 6 times in my life). The problem is, those speeches are not covered by TV. So if you see him on TV, he’s probabaly reading from a teleprompter (as they all do).
By the way, Obama even answered spontaneous questions from the crowd! Even the gotcha questions.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
cbot2255, She has executive achievements as the Governor of Alaska, and as a Mayor and head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission. Foreign policy isnt her strong suit I’ll give you that. The point is that she has executive achievements beyond anything Obama has and to portray her as a shoeless hillbilly only strenghtens Middle Americas resolve and love for her.
Posted by: middleamericafyi | October 1, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
I think Palin will do fine in the debate with Biden. She had been through debates successfully when she ran for the governor in Alaska. She also devoted few days to prepare for this debate. She will, and should, be OK on Thursday. I am looking forward to what she has to say.
Posted by: CT | October 1, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I have noticed that the quality of the statements used to defend Gov. Palin has been steadily declining over the past few weeks, not that it was anything special to begin with. Whereas a month ago people were quick to spout the default tripe about “executive experience” or “proven reformer”, now they are unable to actually defend her and must resort to the tried and true fallacy of attacking the messenger.
Seriously, if you want to defend Gov. Palin, TALK ABOUT WHY SHE IS QUALIFIED. Don’t waste your time or mine by bringing up stuff that has no relevance (ie, Katie Couric’s ratings, Rev. Wright, etc).
Posted by: Los | October 1, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
I particularly like the argument from so-called “Middle America” – whoever that may be: She is as uninformed as we are that’s why we like her and want her to run the country. These people are not the real middle America that works like heck to make a living and wants someone who knows what they are doing to run the nation so there will be something left for their kids. How dare these mindless Palin supporters claim to speak for middle America.
Posted by: jefflz | October 1, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
The only thing her supporters see is female trouble is she makes all females look bad for shame
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | October 1, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
You work like heck to make a living jefflz? How will Obama help you to make your life easier. Give you “free” health care? Give you this, give you that? Most Americans dont want handouts and our votes to be bought out by a candidate for President via socialistic goals. Sure times are tough, but the American worker has more resolve then to settle for economic leftists. Do you think they would be easier and better for the American worker and economy under socialism? What kind of “change” would Obama give us that isnt big government solutions like Fannie May and Freddie Mac the Democrats gift to America …
Posted by: middleamericafyi | October 1, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
> Gee..If these questions were directed at Obama, I wonder what his answers might be? <
Well, given the fact that he was editor of the Harvard Law Review, and a lecturer at Univ Chicago Law school for 12 years, I'd say they'd be pretty insightful.
Posted by: know your candidates | October 1, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Please someone hand Mrs. Fluff a dictionary maybe than she can be an answer debater and not an non answer
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | October 1, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Many on this blog site Gov. Palin’s lack of experience disqualifies her for the Office of V.P…..However, you will note from all the years of experience that members of our federal govt. currently have they continue to mismanage our hard earned taxpayers money. Looks like experience isn’t necessary to hold a position. I don’t particularly like any of them.
Posted by: Tom R. Jones | October 1, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
How on earth can anyone say they “look forward to what she has to say” with a straight face? Not even her supporters can look forward to what she has to say. She’s either going to unknowingly contradict their core beliefs (the “right to privacy” in which she shore does believes is the basis for the Roe v Wade decision) or she’s going to mail in the next Tina Fey script… seriously!
Posted by: rst | October 1, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Why isn’t joe Biden ever considered an insult to Americans-or at least, Dems. Biden was rejected 3 times for president. They thought he wasn’t qualified. Now, where he couldn’t get in the front door, he sneaks in the back. That’s an insult.
Independent for Sarah Vin@www.wegotsarah.com
Posted by: vinprose | October 1, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
The liberal press in this country needs to get back to unbiased journalism. I’ve quit watching Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric. Others are also on the list. Glad Dan Rather is already gone!
Posted by: Tom R. Jones | October 1, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
“Well, given the fact that he was editor of the Harvard Law Review, and a lecturer at Univ Chicago Law school for 12 years, I’d say they’d be pretty insightful.”
Just what America needs… Another Lawyer in Charge with more hot air then a blimp. Maybe with all his insight he could have not just voted “present”.
Posted by: middleamericafyi | October 1, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I can’t believe she didn’t mention the Supreme Court letting Exxon get away with paying only half of the settlement to those people affected by the spill on Prince William Sound–and in a year when Exxon made record profits. I thought she was a “barracuda” who stands up to the big oil companies. Guess not.
Posted by: Linda | October 1, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
This was painful to watch and listen to.
Posted by: WATCH US EXPLODE | October 1, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
elitists cannot stand a commoner. too bad. truman was such a person and was a great president. you little obama worshippers can pretend you’re listening to adlai stevenson when you hear obama’s sweet nothings. both are losers in the political realm.
Posted by: ron | October 1, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
For a president to be effective congress both houses must be willing to work with the president and vice versa, you just can’t have it one sided. And the president can not have tunnel vision . And must be able to juggle 9 or 10 things at once. This country is in the mess it is in because we have had a president that got up in the morning and did not see America he saw Baghdad. And if you want to be honest with your self you will alll agree with me.
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | October 1, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
yes, TomRJones. Those mean ol press people-asking those very, very unfair questions about the supreme court, the economic bailout and all that other non-important stuff. What questions should we ask her?
Posted by: cbot2255 | October 1, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
This woman is dangerously unqualified. If McCain had any integrity at all, he’d ask her to step down.
I wouldn’t vote for Sarah Palin for president of the PTA, let alone Vice President of the United States of America.
Posted by: FemaleVoter | October 1, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Palin represents everything the feminazi liberals HATE. So I’m not surprised. Especially when they are just transferring their anger at her for the fact that the party chose to throw Hilliary under the bus for Barack and another wedge group. Playing off gender vs. race. Some “unity” we got here. And now all those women who can’t go after Obama because it isn’t very PC, are eviscerating Sarah Palin, which is bad enough; But then she has to take McCain’s crappy positions and his Bush polices on as her own and not give voice to her solid, and real views. It’s disgusting how the liberals are treating her for no damn good reason. She’s just as experienced as Obama (Community oragainzer, 1/2 term Senator, JEEZ, at least she was a Governor of a state and had to work for a living!) and yet the feminist have to destroy here for having the gall to be a Republican and worse pro-Life; And then to make it worse, actually act on her beliefs! (Holy crap! We’ve got a complete monster here!) It’s despicable. And shows just how empty the feminist and the DNC is. They don’t care about women or “the glass celing”, they care about welfare, abortion, paying women to keep fathers out of the home, and being subservient to almighty government in perpetual slavery to the state. It’s a shame that those who profit off of intellectual slavery can still inflict their hegemony upon those who dare to think for themselves, and REJECT those who would think for them!
Posted by: hmn | October 1, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
help Sarah Palin clean up Washington, she may not know everything but she knows a snake oil salesman politician when she sees one and she will can his ass, visit http://www.sarahpalinhasaposse.com
Posted by: obvious guy | October 1, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
I’m sure Palin doesn’t fit the mold of the “good old boy politician” that no one believes anyway. America needs honesty in their public servants. No one is going to be close to perfect. I do know that all of us should turn to our God for daily direction.
Posted by: Conservativeandproud | October 1, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Please, please, please I spent most of my life in Europe before returning to the U.S. I remember people could not even name who the vice president of US is. Just check out Jaywalking segment on Jay Leno show and it will tell. People are worried about their finances not supreme court decisions. By the way, the gentleman who has been ib Washington for 36 years is getting it wrong on depression and the president in office.
Posted by: Mark | October 1, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Reminds me of the Miss Teen USA contestant from South Carolina…Sarah Palin is a bumbling idiot who is so unqualified to be in any office much less vp of the usa it isn’t even funny. That interview was painful to watch. I wonder how Katie Couric kept from busting out laughing at her.
Posted by: Lily Bell | October 1, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Can’t wait to see Tina Fey on SNL this week. SHOULD BE HILARIOUS!!!!
Posted by: Lily Bell | October 1, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I remember people could not even name who the vice president of US is.
Posted by: Mark | Oct 1, 2008 10:20:07 PM
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I’d be willing to bet those people were not running for vice president.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Can’t wait to see Tina Fey on SNL this week. SHOULD BE HILARIOUS!!!!
Posted by: Lily Bell | Oct 1, 2008 10:27:45 PM
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She probably cannot believe all the free copy she gets from Palin. She doesn’t even need a writer.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
No more excuses from the reps … it is her “job” to know this stuff or at least talk coherently about it.
Maybe reporters should stick to asking her about the hair color she uses or what designer she has on today. She might be able to tell you that … Darnit, there is just simply too much “Gotcha” press personnel out there don’t you know.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The people defending Palin sound eerily similar to those who defended George W. Bush. This is getting scary. We need leadership people. Not some folksy mom with 5 kids and zero knowledge of the world.
Posted by: Iraq Vet | October 1, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Hey Sarah Palin – I can see the Atlantic Ocean from my house…I’M A DOLPHIN, I can see the moon from my house…I’M AN ASTRONAUT…
Posted by: Lily Bell | October 1, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
They took Palin on a field trip a few days ago to meet nine heads of state and Bono. When she was done she was a bona fide expert on foreign policy. When you add this to the experience she gained looking out of her window to one of the Russian islands, she became completely prepared to lead the free world. Isn’t that special?
On the way home they took her to the store and bought her balloons and candy.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
rhbate ……and I’ll be willing to bet those people running for vice president have no clue what goes on in the life of ordinary people!
Posted by: zeferimus | October 1, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
If she said she disagreed with the Dred Scott case, Jake Trapper would run the headline, “Paldin disagrees with Supreme Court decisions, could affect Roe Vs. Wade” I’m happy she’s not playing the Media’s “gotcha” scam.
Posted by: Uncle Moe | October 1, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
rhbate ……and I’ll be willing to bet those people running for vice president have no clue what goes on in the life of ordinary people!
Posted by: zeferimus | Oct 1, 2008 10:42:25 PM
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Who wants “ordinary people) for their president. I want an educated, intelligent person with a curious mind.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Did anyone read where Palin’s advisors were trying to “dumb her down” before the debate so she can only come out looking better than expected??!!
Posted by: Lily Bell | October 1, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
To Eric, Truth Matters and others who made comments alluding to the possibility that Obama wouldn’t be able to answer questions regarding Supreme Court cases. Obama not only graduated from Harvard Law, but Obama is widely touted as a CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR. He taught constitutional law at University of Chicago, one of the best law schools in the country. So, Truth Matters, shame on you, for insulting Ms. Couric instead of seeing the truth. Palin answered the question poorly.
It is that simple. Stop acting like a journalist’s questioning of a VP candidate has suddenly become evil. Stop defending her. Will you be defending her against Putin or Chavez as well if she were to say something to them she has no business saying? Come on people, get real. Regardless of which side of the aisle your on, her answers over the past week are seriously worrisome. I am from Middle America myself and I want someone in the White House who can not only represent my values, but the image and integrity of our values and policies abroad. It’s that simple.
Posted by: LD | October 1, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Do not under estimate Governor Palin.
Remember the convention?
Also, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say it anything at all.
Remember your parents taught you to be respectful. Who knows your parents may be reading this stuff.
Undecided in Minnesota
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Personally, I find it encouraging that she isn’t focusing on Supreme Court cases and how to reform or overturn them. Frankly, she is interested in doing away with corruption which makes her totally at odds with the Obama/Biden ticket, she wants to cut out government waste of finances and she’s going to be an advocate for special needs children and probably everybody has one of those as a relative, if not in their immediate family. I really hope Rezko sings like a canary before the election.
Posted by: JKIR | October 1, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Her problem is: She had no knowledge of the Dred Scott case, or any other case, for that matter. If she calls every question asked of her a “gotcha question” and doesn’t respond, she’ll just look like and idiot. If she responds as a person capable of being president, she’ll be treated accordingly.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Do not under estimate Governor Palin.
Remember the convention?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | Oct 1, 2008 10:50:34 PM
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Remember, at the convention she was reading from a teleprompter; at the debate she’ll be on her own.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I think that i am most concerned about the fact that this lady could possibly be president of our great nation. I guess that it might be too much if i asked for someone with a little education and not another president bush in the white house!! I AM ALSO SORRY!!! BUT I DO NOT WANT “JOE SIX PACK” IN THE WHITE HOUSE.. HE WILL BE TOO BUSSY GETTING DRUNK TO DO ANYTHING…
Posted by: TIFF | October 1, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
rhBate…I remember you from a BLOG on Sunday. Hope you are well.
I did see clips of her debating when she was running for governor. She did very well. I”m not soo impressed witn Senator Biden.
This time tomorrow evening, all questions or at least most questions will be answered about Mrs. Palin.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Palin is talented at zingers, you know like that nasty bully girl in high school. That skill doesn’t go far when it comes to leadership skills needed.
Posted by: McGreen | October 1, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
rhBate…I remember you from a BLOG on Sunday. Hope you are well.
I did see clips of her debating when she was running for governor. She did very well. I”m not soo impressed witn Senator Biden.
This time tomorrow evening, all questions or at least most questions will be answered about Mrs. Palin.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | Oct 1, 2008 10:57:38 PM
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Thanks for the sentiments you expressed; I hope you are doing well also.
As far as the debates are concerned, I believe it’s a matter of knowledge and that Biden has a clear edge in that department. There’s a huge difference between debating small-town political issues and debating world issues.
As you say, we should know by this time tomorrow.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I would say that 32% of people who will vote in the general election, will vote for a candidate that they like (someone they can have a beer with). Those voters could care less about leadership. To them, it will be the “like-a-bility” factor.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I would say that 32% of people who will vote in the general election, will vote for a candidate that they like (someone they can have a beer with). Those voters could care less about leadership. To them, it will be the “like-a-bility” factor.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | Oct 1, 2008 11:03:25 PM
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I don’t think this nation can stand four more years of someone we “can have a beer with,” been there, done that.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
yeah, but she’ll be the most fertile VP ever!!!!!!
Posted by: raknyc | October 1, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
yeah, but she’ll be the most fertile VP ever!!!!!!
Posted by: raknyc | Oct 1, 2008 11:06:18 PM
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She’s proved that alright.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
I was doing business at a hospital recently and ask a service worker which candidate does she supports in the presidential election. Her answer was, “I know I am not voting for Obama because he is not American. He look like he is from Somolia.”
That answer floored me. I told her that I his mother was American and father was from Africa, and that he grew up in Hawaii.
She responded, “Well, he don’t look like it.”
I said, “Have a nice day, goodbye.”
True conversation
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Self-proclaimed she “stands up to the big oil companies” yet can’t name the Valdez ship in Exxon v Baker? It happened in ’89, but was only decided this year…IN ALASKA! It was arguably the largest environmental disaster in recent history. I can’t believe she didn’t read it in “any or all of the newspapers and magazines with which she educates herself.” LMAO. C’mon people – this election is over already.
Posted by: jcool | October 1, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I’m really starting to feel sorry for this woman. Perhaps she has some sort of learning disability. That, or her well coiffed do is there to hide the pull-string at the back of her neck that sometimes gets stuck.
Posted by: Don S. | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
The fact that Obama is not being grilled like Palin has no bearing, and gives no excuse, for her not knowing these issues and answers. And by knowing I mean thoroughly versed on all sides of these issues and any relevant material, and able to clearly decide what is right and what is wrong. A feat not possible having learned it the night before in a world-events cram session. We are talking about leadership of the Free World, people! Do you really think Obama not knowing the answers excuses Palin for not knowing them? Are we to be ruled by morons simply because the other other side got unfair support? Mindless support of Sarah is as disgusting as the social elite tripping over themselves with tingling legs to worship Barack Hussein. It seems the core of both sides could prop up a potatoe and leftwing wimps and rightwing nutjobs would cheerfully vote and poke the eyes out of the other potatoe!
Posted by: biograd | October 1, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
She responded, “Well, he don’t look like it.”
I said, “Have a nice day, goodbye.”
True conversation
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | Oct 1, 2008 11:10:20 PM
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I wouldn’t predicate any projection of the election on the ignorance of people. And, fortunately, they are in the minority.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Again…This election is over already
Posted by: jcool | October 1, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Ok, as everyone can tell I’m an idiot. My post are quite unintelligent. I know this, but this is my way of being devils’ advocate. I am a small minded person (pea brian really). I almost graduated from the 8th grade. I still live in my mothers’ basement. But I do have a FOX News first rate education. I even have a degree to prove it. I’ll keep posting stupid post, so don’t hold it against me. I’m just stupid … Like Sarah P.
Posted by: Voter In America | October 1, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Here’s what I don’t get from the Palin defenders. When Obama first came on the scene, the McCain group said he has too little experience. Now, they proclaim Palin’s lack of experience. Which is it? And by the way, being on the PTA or the mayor of a town that was smaller than my high school (and had fewer employees) hardly qualifies as “experience.”
To the joker who said Dems. don’t like commoners, who do you think the Democratic party helps more? Geo. Bush’s oil and gas buddies, or the everyday American. The fact of the matter is every Bush 41 & 43 are elitists. The Great Trick they played on the American people was convincing us that they were one of us (because we’d want to have a beer with them). For more than a generation, Republicans have accused every Democrat, from the son of Greek Immigrants, to the son of a single mother, to being “elite.” While I am not defending every Democratic presidential nominee, this “elitism” charge is growing tired, and the latest polls demonstrate that Americans are finally wising-up.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Again…This election is over already
Posted by: jcool | Oct 1, 2008 11:15:32 PM
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I think most people are prepared to say; President Barack Obama.”
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Are there more liberals or conversatives in this land of opportunity (Good ol’ U, S of A)?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Ron –
Read the law. Miranda was decided in the ’60s. It has been extended since then. Public intoxication is not a felony (unless you’re driving in most states), and if the police arrested, they would be required to Mirandize you before asking you how much you to drink. Please stay away from complex legal questions if you don’t know what you are talking about.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
I don’t know why Republicans think that’s it ok for Palin to avoid the question, not answer, BS around the question or as usual, blame the media and even the questions themselves!!! “it was the wrong question to ask”, “why are they asking her those questions”, yes, it’s definitely the questions and the news reporter who are at fault! I just want to say, if Palin ever becomes President, don’t expect her to answer your questions, because know in advance that you didn’t ask her the right question! such as:
“President Palin, what do you plan to do with the Pakistan situation?”
Palin: “Oh, they’re a bit too far, I can’t see Pakistan from my house, but I’ll get back to you!” (Big Smile of course)… if that day ever arrives…there is only you to blame!
Enough is enough! No more Dumb People running the country!
Posted by: all4Obama | October 1, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
At least Sarah Palin did not think the questions are above her pay grade.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Oh Paul..SNAP!
LMAO
Maybe Ron could learn to play the flute
Posted by: jcool | October 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
P.S. to Ron –
Think about it. Many times, a person is called into the police station without any charges against them (and in many cass, the police won’t know if the crime is a felony or a misdemeanor until after they have completed their investigation, which INCLUDES the interrogation). So if Miranda applies only to people charged with felonies, the police could escape the Constitution by not charging someone wiht anything until after they interrogated the suspect.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
What about the moderator? Should someone else moderate the debate?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
More sanctimonious drivel from underemployed elites whose parents paid their way through college. Have your partisan goggles blinded you to the numbers of powerful but really stupid people in Wall Street and Washington who have education but no learning?
Now let’s look at life’s little experiences as applied to the candidates.
A: A senator, born wealthy, went to all the best schools, with 30 years in the Senate with no track record except a well-deserved reputation for stupid statements (Stand up, Larry!).
B: A senator born (where?) who (someone) paid to go to some of the most expensive schools in the country (Punahou, Columbia, Harvard), and yet with all that book-learning has achieved exactly zero in his short life and still cannot speak three sentences without somebody writing it down for him so he can read it on a teleprompter.
C: A senator who has produced some major legislation (even though in my personal view it was some of the stupidest legislation in the past 50 years) and of course has ample evidence that “suffering” means a heck of a lot more than “can’t afford so many lattes”.
D: A woman, who took the trouble to educate herself when life didn’t hand her a free ride to college; raised kids; worked her way through the political process and actually _did_ something for her community and as a state governor has a 70+% approval rating — but happens not to have taken a pre-law course.
Gee, I wonder which two of these four we should be looking at as role models?
Posted by: gottabesomeonebetter | October 1, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Judge –
The PROBLEM is Palin doesn’t know when a question is above her paygrade!!!
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Yes, Palin doesn’t have a lot of experience but she isn’t the one running for president, Obama is. Palin has proven that she can lead as Governor of Alaska. She has a huge approval rating. Obama has 160 million dollars frivoled away from the Annenberg School project(his ONLY executive experience), the Garden to Nowhere, substandard housing projects, etc.
Posted by: JKIR | October 1, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Ken –
I think someone else should moderate. Maybe the Republicans would feel better if a dog asked the questions. Or maybe not. After all, a dog is MAN’s best friend, and Sara is a woman.
To anyone who thinks the moderator should be replaced, please exlain why? Gwen Ifel is an African American woman. Doesn’t that mean that she should be equally torn between seeing the first African American President and the first female Vice President. If you don’t think so, you should ask yourself what in this logical equation is wrong (or, what’s wrong with you).
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
GottaBe – if you take that much time to write each entry, you’ll never keep up with the blog. Concise please. I choose A & B over Palin and her running-mate.
Posted by: jcool | October 1, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
I see both sides here. . . . I’ve never seen interviews like this in my life. She’s being pop-quizzed to death. It’s like “name 20 senators, you have 30 seconds. . .go!” Journalism at rock bottom. On the other hand, she doesn’t have the answers . . and she should. They’ll keep quizzing her until she makes them look foolish. She just needs to take one question, and knock it out of the park. Wouldn’t Couric feel foolish if Palin wasted 10 minutes of that interview, reeling off the details of 10 major supreme court decisions, making her sorry she had ever asked. That’s the only way she’ll stop it. So far she’s struck out, every time.
Posted by: Present | October 1, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Why do we go to great lengths to defend a politician? Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth as well as Biden, McCain, and Stalin…oh I mean Palin.
But, I guess we have to choose one of those tickets. Unless you vote Green, constitution, libertarian, or some other political gang.
Think back to W’s promises?
Logic would say vote democrat because a republican has been the top dog for the last 98 months, and look where we are now.
Cast the right vote, we can’t afford to get it wrong this time around.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
I’m almost beginning to feel sorry for Mrs. Palin–almost.
Posted by: Hardlabour | October 1, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
FINALLY some of you seem to be getting it — NO ONE is asking Obama these questions. I have not seen even ONE journalist put him on the spot with an impromptu question. PULLEESE – one can look up Supreme Court decisions, if one cares to know. I want someone I can understand and who is in there fighting for ME! Wonder what Sarah REALLY thinks about the “Bailout”??
Posted by: Patricia | October 1, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Paul
Obama is not worth any pay grade.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I’m tired of hearing gotcha-journalism. DO we not want to ask the hard questions to get to the good answers? Bill O’Reilly has been comparing people to Hitler for years (but he’s not making any comparisons, for those left-wing liberal crazys). Let’s just have the election and vote Obama in already. I’m too young to see this happen for another 8 years…or I’m moving to Canada
Posted by: jcool | October 1, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
JKIR –
I am happy to see that at least one Palin supporter acknowledges Palin’s lack of experience, but the problem with the carryover you use to Obama is that Obama’s lack of experience is a myth. He’s been in public office about 12 years, 7 years in the Illinois legislature and 4 years in the U.S. Senate. That’s almost as much as Palin, if you simply think that years equal years.
What’s more, unlike Palin, Obama has a clear vision for where he wants to take country, and for nearly every American, Obama’s economic vision will be better for us than will whatever McCain wants to do (unless you are one of the mega wealthy who will get a nice fat tax cut. . . again).
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
I am reading a book called “SARAH” by Kaylene Johnson – written BEFORE her nomination as VP. This tells me all I need to know about the REAL Sarah Palin – GREAT reading! A true inspiration
Posted by: Patrica | October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Palin has no one but herself to blame for the so-called ‘pop quizz’ questions. Fool me once, shame on the question; fool me twice, shame on the media, fool me a third time, need to study more.
Paul: Right-Wingers will try to make an issue of the fact that the moderator has written a book regarding Black politicians, and may have inteviewed Mr. Obama.
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Present –
Good thing Couric didn’t have to waste time hearing Palin give us her “two cents” on the Supreme Court. The problem is, she also couldn’t name one newspaper or magazine she read. Do you think that question was out of bounds, too? More “gotcha.”
I will say that I think she is smarter than she plays. The problem is that McCain doesn’t know what she thinks because he picked her–not because she was the best he could find for the country (as he says he puts “country first”)–because she is a base pick. A base pick is someone who appeals to all of you out there defending Palin. You ARE the base and that’s why McCain picked her.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Every time I hear some cretin talk about how “she is like one of us” or how they can relate to her, I cringe. I ask, would you like your surgeon, your attorney, or your financial advisor to be just somebody you can relate to regardless of qualifications or somebody who is eminently trained and of superior intelligence? But yet these people are wiling to vote for a completely unqualified person to potentially be the president of the US one day just because she is like one of them? Do these people think so little of their own country that they think any average Joe can run it?
Sarah Palin is clearly a regular person, but mediocre, probably nice enough, but embarrasingly and frightening unqualified to be VP and certainly president. We are the laughing stock of the world!
Posted by: Maritza Rogers | October 1, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Mr. Paul:
“I will say that I think she is smarter than she plays. The problem is that McCain doesn’t know what she thinks because he picked her–not because she was the best he could find for the country (as he says he puts “country first”)–because she is a base pick. A base pick is someone who appeals to all of you out there defending Palin. You ARE the base and that’s why McCain picked her.”
WELL SAID!
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Give McCain a break – he only met Palin once, went with his gut. Maybe he should have taken some tums, his blood pressure medicine and maybe he could have gotten through his panic attack of
the DNC (80,000 people). We know McCain knows at least where the White House is located – he just ran there in panic to bail out of his own debate. I hope Palin has her GPS working to get her to 1600. Oops, does she know what GPS stands for?
Posted by: brazil | October 1, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I think McCain should take 90% of the blame for the way Palin is being perceived. I think the other 10% of the blame belongs to Palin herself for accepting when she thought she was ready. He should have NEVER picked her. Doesn’t experience tell someone if another person is ready to lead or co-lead a nation? I guess not when it’s blinded by the desire to win. I kind of feel for Palin you know, because she’s just who she is and she knows what she knows. The media seems to be exploiting her because many still don’t know much about her.
Posted by: j in Kansas | October 1, 2008, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Maritza makes a good point, but I want to take it a step further and apply it only to cretins. If you are a cretin, do you think you want someone like you, or someone you would like to be (for example, smarter)? Oh, that’s right, cretins don’t think. For me, I’d prefer someone smarter than me, someone better than me. That’s neither McCain nor Palin.
McCain WAS an honorable man, but after claiming he was going to run a clean campaign (I would have voted for him in 2000 but he didn’t survive the primaries before it reached me), he has run one of the most dishonest, disrespectful, and disgusting campagains, all the while blowing his own trumpet that he is doing this not because he wants to win but because he wants to help me. He has proven he will say or do anything to win this election.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Judge –
What was Jesus’s pay-grade?
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Brazil –
True enough. But it did take him 24 hours to get from NYC to D.C. Maybe he got lost before he found the White House!
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
John McCain, like everyone else, will die someday.
Unlike the rest of us, however, he could die in the White House, where he would be 80 at the end of two terms. So it’s rather surprising that as the general election hits the homestretch, the McCain campaign has effectively squashed efforts by journalists, medical experts and the political class to fully examine his medical records.
The most recent review of McCain’s records cannot be described as independent or thorough. In May, the campaign gave a limited group of reporters only three hours to review thousands of documents. Aside from the time limit, the selected reporters were “ensconced” in a cone of silence, as CNN reported. The campaign banned the use of cell phones or e-mail for journalists, who might have consulted with experts while assessing the medical information. It’s not clear why so many news outlets consented to such terms.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Even with all the negative comments about the Palin/McCain ticket, the race is still very close.
We have to get this right this time.
How much time has Sarah had to be with her infant child?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | October 1, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
For months, the McCainiacs have said they will run on his judgment and experience. In his first presidential decision, John McCain has shown that he is willing to endanger his country, potentially leaving it in the hands of someone who simply has no business being a heartbeat away from the most powerful, complicated, difficult job in human history.
For a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain’s age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.
McCOMA NEEDS A CHECKUP FROM THE NECK UP!!
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
So this is what constitutes a popular politician in Alaska, eh?
Posted by: deaner | October 1, 2008, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Kenneth W. — I think this race comes down to a simple basic question. Who is more likely to do better for most of us? I think that answer is Obama.
Obama has demonstrated conviction. He doesn’t go to a tree-huggers hang-out to tell people we need to make more fuel-efficient cars. He went to Detroit.
He didn’t go along with the “gas tax holiday” gimmick that McCain pimped over the summer, even though it was popular with a lot of voters. He told us we needed to fundamentally change the way we think about things.
And unlike McCain, most of Obama’s so-called “flip-flops” are the public’s failure to understand a distinction in his position. For example, a lot of people say he’s flipped on offshore drilling. He has not. McCain has. What Obama said was that he was against offshore drilling. He later said that, if elected president, and if necessary to pass a comprehensive energy bill, he had to agree to offshore drilling, then he would.
McCain on the hand said he was opposed to offshore drilling (back in May) and now claims he’s for it because it will help out. Not only won’t it, but his reason for changing his position is nonsensical. He claims he switched because oil is at an all-time high. The problem is oil is no longer at an all-time high, but back when it was at a then all-time high early this year (crossing $100/barrel for the first time ever), he still said “no” to offshore drilling. So what’s changed?
He realized that Obama, by sticking to a conviction — no gimmicks, tell the voters the truth — had won over voters so McCain is once again appealing to trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Don’t let it happen again.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
How much time has Sarah had to be with her infant child?
Posted by: Kenneth W. of Minneapolis | Oct 2, 2008 12:00:01 AM
_________________________
Not enough, but I’m sure she’ll have plenty of time for all of her children in the near future.
Posted by: rhbate | October 1, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
By the way, who wants to bet that, before this whole thing is all over, McCain will do a full frontal personal character attack against Obama? I’ll bet anyone $10,000 that that happens (unless, of course, gambling is illegal on this website or wherever it may be read). The only real bet is, what will it be this time? He’s a Muslim? The anti-Christ? (Who saw that last night?) He swore on the Koran? He’s a terrorist?
By the way, the only “small print” here is that Fox, the RNC, Limbaugh and the whacko right “count” as being within the McCain campaign, particularly where the McCain campaign is now taking its “talking points” from Fox.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
McCain made an impulsive decision picking Palin. He was also impulsive in cancelling the debate, then reversing his decision. His performance at the debate was ok, he clearly knows foreign policy, but there was this simmering anger that made me think he was going to run to Obama and slap him at times. I’m afraid that so far his method for making important decisions in this election has been impulsive and even reckless. And then I found out that he was near the bottom of his class at the naval academy (correct me if I’m wrong…)So in the end, McCain, a person I actually respected initially, is now somebody I fear because of his impulsive nature, his willingness to risk the country’s welfare to win the election (the selection of Palin and injecting himself into the bailout talks), and the fact that he appears to be of limited intelligence.
Posted by: Maritza Rogers | October 1, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Maritza –
Dumb and angry. Bad combination. Seriously, I don’t think he’s dumb, but he did graduate 5th from the bottom of his class. He actually brags about that.
But you know the joke, what do they call the person who graduates last from medical school, right?
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
The responses on here against Obama are weak. Just admit that she doesn’t know anything and should be on the first flight back to Alaska and get it over with. I know these same people who take the time to come on these boards to defend Palin are the ones knocking her when sitting at home. The woman can’t be compared to Obama no matter hard people try. He has proven himself to be ready, willing and able to get this country back on the right track. McCain can’t even keep his campaign from falling apart. How is he going to keep a country from falling apart? We are in a mess right now and it is time for us to stop putting the so called “average American” in the White House.
Posted by: NYC | October 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
More “pop quiz” questions from a bias media. Sarah isn’t running for a seat on the Supreme Court. Why is that evil little Katie Couric taking these gotcha potshots? I think Katie is jealous. But just wait until the debate. Sarah will show everybody how good she is after a few days of training. Her father said she is a very fast learner. And McCain aides have been pressuring the debate commitee for fewer foreign policy questions. If that bias moderater stays away from those, Sarah is going to SHINE!
Posted by: Pubby | October 1, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Pubby –
You do know that the President appoints Justices to the Supreme Court, don’t you? So it’s relevant for Couric to ask someone who may be a heartbeat away from that job what Supreme Court cases she disagrees with because that will tell us something about how she views the Court.
That’s why the question is fair.
The problem with Palin is that, this is not a college oral. You can’t cram for a test where the subject is “anything in the world.”
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Boy! The Dems are really dumbfounded about Palin to the point of foulness, anger, resentment (for being a mother?), having a family (many Dem extremists usually have dogs, of the same gender, of course), having shot a gun (why do the celebs needs guns, they hire people to carry those), and be married for more than five years (What? Only one spouse?), actually being in a place that none of those that speak so ill of her could even approach, also not having an Ivy League education (What? Nobody can think without that, and the relgion thing (Man she should just go away, how could anyone actually believe in that stuff).
The Repubs seem to really keep asking for answers (we know you won’t get one, duh!), and keep finding out the unsavory relationships and associations of Obama, knowing that we will pay more and make less, and run from any enemy until they hit us here in the U.S., and no use even commenting on Biden (everyone knows what he’s about), but them singing kids are brainwashed.
Okay. So if America is so divided to the point that no one can civilly talk, my Ivy League religious training suggests that Isaiah’s prophecies were right: All the chariots of Egypt (the one that supported Isreal) will be gone, and the world will be in awe.
Let us bring someone fresh, that doesn’t know more than the average American — we do it with jurors all the time, and what is more important than liberty of a soul. Why can’t a mother who is in touch with the mainstream Americans be President? Who thinks they are qualified to determine who should or should not be President? If you do, state your qualifications — your Ivy League educations? your pride? your ability to be able to beat up an enemy better than any other?
The Isrealites thought they qualified to make their determinations without the temple, and without knowing they were hypocrites. Will our fate be similar to theirs? Can anyone in this blog answer that question? I’ll give you a hint: You can find the answer in Isaiah: “The advisers to Pharoah were fools and thought they were wise men.” 19:12
Oy! This poor country!
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
FINALLY some of you seem to be getting it — NO ONE is asking Obama these questions. I have not seen even ONE journalist put him on the spot with an impromptu question.
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Patricia, no one needs to ask Obama these questions because Obama is there everyday, in your face, campaigning, talking about issues, his plans…and if you’re not at one of his campaigns, it’s posted all over the internet, and he constantly is making comments about issues, his views. How much has he said about the bailout??? Don’t tell me you haven’t heard his answer yet??? Now, can you say the same about Palin? Where does she stand? about anything???? Where does she stand on gay rights? Palin: “my best friend is gay”. Now that does that tell you anything about issues???? It’s not enough to be able to understand a candidate and think that they are on the same level as you. Because they are not! The President of the United States is just not like you. He/She should care about you, and understand you, and represent you, but believe me, the White House is nothing like your house! Don’t be delusional and believe that just because she talks the talks, and walks the walks, she’s a pitbull with lipstick! FYI: She is not a pitbull in case you haven’t figured that out yet. But she does wear lipstick.
Posted by: all4Obama | October 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
NYC –
I must disagree with you. To claim that the responses against Obama are weak suggests that punches are being landed (just that they are weak). I don’t think I’ve seen a punch (weak or otherwise) land. And I have never before voted for a Democrat for president.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Wow,
My yellow lab looks real smart next to this woman. I don’t feel sorry for her. She should have known her limitation and said no to McCain. McCain now has to tell the media he asks her about national security questions. John, please! Even my dog max understands that is not true! Admit your mistake.
Posted by: jerryz | October 1, 2008, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
shogunjse –
I like your sense of humor, but since you brought up the “guns and religion” thing, everyone needs to understand the context in which that statement was made: Obama had given a long speech discussing Republican tactics over the years to inject so-called “cultural” issues into presidential politics. Remember when people used to vote their pocketbooks? Well, for the last 8 years, either the election has been fixed by the Top 5% or that no longer happens.
Why did 11 battleground states suddenly place “gay marriage” on the ballots in 2004? Not because of any groundswell of support for it, but because Rove knew it would get out the vote of the “culture” voters who are too stupid to recognize that they are being used by Republicans and Karl Rove.
And, incidentally, I don’t know a single Democrat who wants to take anyone’s shotguns. They do want to restrict access to assault weapons, “cop killer” bullets, and similar things that have no business in a civilized society.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
It’s NOT fair. The MSM doesn’t ask Obama the hard questions. They just go all google-eyed and swoon over him!
As regards to “college oral” that’s exactly why Sarah is against sex education in the schools. If only our children weren’t exposed to that, maybe they wouldn’t be so obsessed with sex and drinking by the time they get to college!
Posted by: Pubby | October 1, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Pubby –
Please tell me you are kidding. Please tell me you are kidding.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Paul
Frankly, I doubt it really matters much if Isaiah is right: All of our chariots will be gone! And the world will be in awe! If we reject the one that lead Isreal, we will meet the same fate as Pharoah.
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
The bailout has no restrictions for controlling abuse of credit by persons that spend more than their financial means. The bailout is socialistic and the bailout should not pass the house. Their must be guidelines for credit abuse by immature individuals applying for credit.
Obama wants gun control, but I have not heard a word about credit control. I guess McCain has not given credit control a thought either.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
If you were the boss, who would you hire???
OBAMA: Harvard law professor, Juris Doctor of law degree, constitutional law expert, Senate committees: foreign affairs, homeland security, veterans affairs, family, education, health.
BIDEN: Juris Doctor of law degree, Senate committees: Foreign affairs (chair), economy, health, crime, women’s affairs, education, technology, environment
McBUSH: graduated from the naval academy in the bottom 5% of his class, senate committees: economy, environment, official conduct (arguably the 3 biggest Republican failures!!!!!!!!!)
PITBULL PALIN: went to 6 different universities before finally getting a BA degree in journalism, no domestic or foreign policy experience but can see Russia from her house.
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!!!
If you vote McBush/Pitbull, the fate of your country will be in jeopardy. Everyone here in Europe is laughing at Americans— America has become the butt of all jokes— people are asking, how can they seriously consider voting for McBush and his Pitbull for another 4 years of Bush’s failed policies? Don’t they ever learn???
Remember the frontpage headline of London’s Daily Mirror newspaper back in 2004 when Americans re-elected Bush: HOW CAN 59 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO DUMB?
Posted by: kate buckingham | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
By the way, with all of the “Palin is Stupid” stuff in the media over the last few days, has anyone noticed that a serious question (the Trooper Gate investigation) has fallen off the front page.
Maybe Hillary was right and there is a vast right-wing conspiracy, and the MSM has fooled everyone–even the vast right wing–into believing that they are liberal when, in fact, they are working behind the scenes by focusing on trivial things, like what our possible next VP thinks, while suppressing important things like how Palin abused power in her home state and has covered up that abuse.
Come to think of it, that sounds familiar. Maybe Palin is VP material. What do you think, Mr. Cheney?
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
ABC = Obama campaigners. It is as simple as that. They will never have a shred of credibility from here on out. I will never patronize any advertiser on this website . All of the so -called journalists have alot more to be embarrassed about than Sarah Palin ever will. Why do they key in what she doesnt know, instead of keying on how she gets things done? Where I come from,,production, and accomplishments, are the measuring stick, and Sarah Palin has alot more than the top of the Democratic ticket.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
HEY REPUBLICANS!!!
You have less than 24 hours before your pretty Moose with lipstick Palin, takes McCain and all the rest of you Republicans down the drain!
I bet all of you Republicans long for the days right after McCain drug her out of Alaska to be VP… Those were the days, huh?
I remember how all of you Republicans were dancing in the streets back then, slamming all of us Obama supporters…
That was before you and the WHOLE COUNTRY found out she was DUMB AS A ROCK and a pathological LIAR!!!
So as you watch tomorrow nights debate, listen for that sound. That would be the sound of all McCain’s hopes and dreams for the presidency going down the drain! It will sound like this – FLUSH!!!!
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Davis | October 1, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
Judge –
Do you read up on the issues, or just listen to Limbaugh and the talking points?
The so-called bailout doesn’t pass, the likely consequence is unemployment the likes of which this country has not seen in more than 3 generations, the sharp devaluation of the dollar (which means it might cost $20 for a gallon of milk), and a whole host of other horribles. Most of why we are here now is because Phil Gramm helped to deregulate Wall Street. Gramm was one of McCain’s top economic advisors until he called us whiners (and then McCain put had him “officially” removed, though Gramm is still an “unofficial” advisor).
And Obama does not support gun control as president. He thinks that is a “states right” issue, though as a state lawmaker, he did support gun licensing laws and laws that banned assault weapons.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Gov. Matt Blunt sited Obama, the expert on Constitutional law, for using police tactic in Missouri. Obama gave no thought to the BILL OF RIGHTS violations.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Badger — go ahead and take your marbles (i.e., brains, if you have any) and go home. We didn’t like playing with you either.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Ron you are an idiot. Shes NOT from middle america you nitwit.
>i dont care what she knows or doesnt know; i care that she is from middle america and has our values at heart. she is not dogmatic; she is practical. and i care about the issues that confront this country not about passing a journalist’s pop quiz.
from a social studies teacher in louisiana
Posted by: yep | October 1, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Matt Blount is a McCain supporter. He did accuse Obama of starting a police state.
Obama’s crime: Obama has an organization called the “Truth Squad.” Its mission: to correct untruths told about Obama.
Sounds like a police state to me.
Again, quit relying on the talking points of idiots like Limbaugh and Fox (or anyone else). When you hear something that sounds stupid, it probably is. When you repeat it, you sound stupid.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I guess Obama chanaged his mind again..
Sweeping federal gun control legislation proposed by Sen. Barack Obama (D-13th) would increase the penalties on gun runners who are flooding Chicago’s streets with illegal weapons.
At an anti-gun rally held at the Park Manor Christian Church, 600 E. 73rd St., headed by the Rev. James Demus, Obama also said he’s backing a resolution being introduced into the City Council by Alds. Toni Preckwinkle (4th), Ted Thomas (15th), Leslie Hairston (5th) to call for a “shot-free” millennium celebration.
Obama outlined his anti-gun plan that includes increased penalties for the interstate transportation of firearms. The maximum penalty now for bringing a gun across the border is 10 years in prison. Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home. [!!!]
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Badger,
Palin will effectively end McCain’s bid for the White House tomorrow, so you don’t ever need to come back here again!
Just listen for the big FLUSH about halfway (or earlier) through the debate tomorrow night.
After tomorrow nights debate:
Palin = LAUGHINGSTOCK!
McCAIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK for picking Palin!
Posted by: Davis | October 1, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Davis
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God! Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the earth! Matt 5:22 (Angry with brother?)
Just thought you’d like to hear these in our time of need. But maybe you think these words have a pathological falseness of some type?
Why can’t we see ourselves in comparison to that which brought us a higher, but more difficult, light? Maybe we never sought the light.
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Paul
The truth squad threatened persons of arrest for using the BILL OF Rights…Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. Gov. Matt Blunt did his job of telling Obama he is immature for trying to use police tactics.
I saw the TV broadcasts Do not try to hide from the truth.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Judge –
You sound like one of those people who don’t under nuances, like the difference between the different roles played by state and federal gov’ts.
As President (i.e., federal law), the only gun control laws Obama supports are those that 99% of all Americans think make a heckuva lot of sense. Like you shouldn’t have armor piercing bullets (does Bambi wear Kevlar?) or guns that fire 20 rounds 20 seconds. If you need that many shots to hit a deer, try a different sport?
Do you gun nuts not remember things like West Virginia? How many times do dozens of innocent people need to be shot and killed because some crazy gets his hand on a gun.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Judge –
The story is all over the Internet. The Governor simply said that the Truth Squad would stop “debate.” He did not claim, as you wrongly do, that people were threatened with arrest, etc.
But let’s assume he did. You’re an idiot. So I guess you are because I said you are. If not, what’s the difference between my claim and the Governor’s?
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Judge –
Here’s the story on Gov. Blunt.
“The main newspaper in Springfield, Mo. says Missouri Gov. Matt Blunt ‘has gone off the deep end’ because of the way he responded to the Barack Obama truth squad story.
“‘This is bad, folks,’ the Springfield News-Leader said in an editorial.
“The newspaper told readers: ‘No matter who you support for president, you should be outraged at this kind of campaigning in the guise of governing. It’s not only unethical, it seems to fly in the face of disclosure laws concerning work contributed to political campaigns.’”
So I guess Blunt is unethical because the paper says he is. Oh, that’s right: it’s the liberal media. I forgot. You win.
But in case you want to read the story, here’s a link:
http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/OPINIONS01/809300326&template=printart
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Ken Blackwell , African American, Republican, Ohio, made a very sobering observation the other night on Hannity and Colmes. He was discussing Obamas ties to radical left people, and organizations. He mentioned Ayers, Alinsky, and Acorn, then stated, “and we’re not even out of the (A’s ) yet ” Where is ABC on this stuff? Never mind, I already know
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I think it is a little tough to come up with something in a short amount of time. I know that I would have a tough time naming any decision other than Row vs Wade.
However, I think could have bumbled through a few bad decisions by description. The 1896 comes to mind which basically declared African Americans to be an inferior race — thus upholding separatism.
I thought it would have been very interesting and bought her a lot more moderate votes if she talked about the 2000 decision between Bush & Gore.
Posted by: johnk | October 1, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
Badger –
I thought you were leaving. But in case you forgot, Blackwell, while he is African American, is also the same Bush hack behind the fiasco in the 2004 election that resulted in long lines in African American precincts (some reports said 15 hours because they only had 1 or 2 booths for literally 1000′s of voters) and very short lines in white neighborhoods.
Blackwell was the REPUBLICAN secretary of state who allocated voting machines in Ohio. But I am sure he was very unbiased.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
I agree John K — not many people (even lawyers) know cases by name, but they should at least be able to say something about the case.
By the way, the case you’re referring to is Plessy v. Ferguson (created “separate but equal” and concerned a Louisiana law that had separate street cars for blacks and whites). Overturned by Brown v. Board of Education. Just in case you were wondering!
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
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Posted by: palin pal | October 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
They continue to mock the Sarah Palin at bottom of the republican ticket, even while she has far better credentials than the top of the democratic ticket. Isnt that kind of like bringing a knife to a gunfight?
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Paul
Obama’s words not mine.
Sweeping federal gun control legislation proposed by Sen. Barack Obama (D-13th) would increase the penalties on gun runners who are flooding Chicago’s streets with illegal weapons.
Police were told to arrest those that violated the truth squad. Get the facts straight. I heard and saw all the TV braodcasts.
Keep your support and distortions for the people that just do not understand the truth.
Never a voter for Obama. It is a closed issue.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
John K P.S. — if we assume Palin is smart and knows these famous Supreme Court decisions, like Plessy, one would have to conclude that she did not mention it because she did not disagree with it.
So, we’re stuck with a choice of (a) she did not know about it or (b) she did not disagree with it. Either way, she’s not competent for the job.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Paul
Sorry, but your reply is irrelevant. It doesnt change the fact that Obama is well connected to, far too many corrupt, anti-american radical left people and organizations.
That is NOT good, man.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Judge — I did get the facts right. I said Obama supported gun laws that 99% of America supports. I think 99% of America would support tougher penalties for your term: “runners who are flooding Chicago’s streets with illegal weapons.”
Are you trying to start a war? Why in the hell would any idiot oppose a law aimed at stopping the “FLOODING” of Chicago streets with ILLEGAL weapons? Are you a fricking moron?
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
HELLO?????? ANYBODY HOME IN LEFT WING LIBERALVILLE????
You people are only obsessed with what Sarah Palin doesnt know, because youre too afraid to acknowledge what she has achieved. If only Obama had run a city twice elected, and then became a governor with a 65-80% approval rating.
Hey , but he is good with a teleprompter, and he was a community organizer, even though all of his prijects were failures.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
“Obama is proposing to make it a felony for a gun owner whose firearm was stolen from his residence which causes harm to another person if that weapon was not securely stored in that home. [!!!]”
________________________________________
This is the most sensible thing I’ve ever heard. I’ve been challenging the gun nuts on this for years.
Here is the problem, the pro gun crowd always argues with statements like “responsible gun owners”. Then the next sentence they talk about “protecting my family”. My response has always been that responsible gun owners have the gun locked in the gun cabinet, and the ammo locked in the ammo safe, which should be totally seperate of each other. If an intruder invades your house then how exactly do you get the keys, unlock all of these locks, get the gun loaded, and “protect” your family? You can’t. The only way to guarantee this protection you champion is to keep a loaded gun & readily available which puts all of society indirectly at risk……… not to mention the immediate risk to your family (especially children) because you can’t keep your eye on that loaded weapon 24/7.
To me the quoted Obama statement makes a ton of sense; you’re either a responsible gun owner or you’re responsible for your gun……
Posted by: dk | October 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Badger –
You have to consider your source. Blackwell is a hack who violated federal law in the 2004 election by denying 1000s of people the right to vote.
If that’s your witness, and you’re in a courtroom, you’d lose your case.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.
“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts – not a free society.”
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I shot the fastest crossbow in US last week. 350 fps. I also ate some carribou, and some elk jerky. Me and my two ten year olds are going to get some bows and practice all winter and get some meet to pack our fridge for next winter. My boys need some non steroidal meat to keep from growing extra body parts, or ones that aren’t desirable for boys, or young men.
So you think you’re gonna stop the flood of illegal guns? Ya, right!
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
She is entirely unqualified to be VP. In short, she is a moron.
Posted by: jen wilson | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Okay dk, it’s late here. And I’ve got to get up tomorrow early. Can you take over? I’m signing off for a while.
If Badger says anything, ignore him.
If Judge says anything, he’s probably wrong. Just tell him that. He’ll fight it. But in his heart, he knows he’s wrong.
Good night to my Obamacans! And even to you McCainiacs.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
What scares the heck out of me is that this race is still is close.
Posted by: steve9337 | October 1, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
People, be careful! A phenomenon has recently been on the rise by both parties where all over the blogs there are traces of ‘Plants’ or fake bloggers that attempt to stir opinion for either the right or the left.
Watch for the misspellings that look contrived.
Watch for no response when challenged.
Watch for posts that are not related to the original topic.
Don’t get caught up in debating partisan talking points that are old or have already proven false.
Shu
Posted by: JShimota | October 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Judge –
Once again. That is what Blunt says. The papers say he’s crazy. And so are you.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Paul
Youre not good at dodging the facts. Obama IS connected to Acorn, Ayers, and Alinsky, whether Blackwell stated it, or not. When you attempt to discredit what Blackwell stated, you only discredit yourself. This isnt rocket science.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Today it’s “gotcha” journalism. Before it it was “sexim”. Tomorrow it will be “elitism”. Excuses, excuses, excuses . . .
Posted by: Connie Pluck | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
“help Sarah Palin clean up Washington, visit http://www.sarahpalinhasaposse.com”
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One things is for sure, if you send her to Washington then Alaska will be a much cleaner place………
And just think, Bristol will have a shorter distance to travel to get to the Maury Povich episode titled, “27 Eskimo’s tested and still no Daddy…”
Posted by: dk | October 1, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
shogunjse,
No, I don’t think I’m going to stop gun running or any crime. That doesn’t mean that when someone FLOODS our streets with ILLEGAL guns that they shouldn’t be arrested, prosectured and, if found guilty, sentenced to a long time in prison.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Paul
Another distortion from you and the Obama supporters.
Paul Said, “I said Obama supported gun laws that 99% of America supports. I think 99% of America “.
Not true,….99% of Americans do not support gun control that Obama represents
Another FREEDOM of the BILL OF RIGHTS.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
Paul — you ever been huntin?
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
They continue to mock Sarah Palin who is at the bottom of the Republican ticket, even while she has far better credentials than the top of the democratic ticket. Isnt that kind of like bringing a knife to a gunfight?
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I’m not a true dyed in the wool blogger, but I couldn’t resist making a comment here or perhaps it’s better to say, “…asking a question here.”
People keep talking about the candidates. But, there’s an even greater issue that we need to be thinking about, and that is the future of the children of this nation–our posterity.
People who say that knowledge doesn’t matter too much are out of step with the global market place, i.e., you don’t seem to realize that what used to be “us against them” in this country had better change to “us against them” outside of this country, namely the China and India. While we’ve been busy bickering and hating one another in this country with our stupid, petty prejudices, the world has been moving on making strides in education and technology while at the same time, stealing our weaponry secrets and everything else they could get their hands on.
Anyone who thinks this election and its rhetoric is just like it has been in the past has had their head buried in the sand. We are in trouble in this country. Period. Whether it be Obama (my choice) or McCain. If we don’t learn that it isn’t the same old game anymore, we’re sunk as a nation. I’ll bet Rome never thought it could happen to them either, but it did.
As far as Madam Palin is concerned, I’m sure to a limited degree she is dumbing down. I’m also quite certain that she has not demonstrated that she has what it takes to run this country. I’ll give it to McCain that he could run this country. I just don’t believe he’d do as well as Obama because I personally believe that he’s projecting when he accuses Obama of having his own self-interest for wanting to be president.
But, Palin owes it to this country not to “dumb down” IF she knows what she’s talking about. She certainly hasn’t shown me anything worthy of my vote.
This is as nice as I can be on the Palin question.
Posted by: Sj | October 1, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
“So you think you’re gonna stop the flood of illegal guns? Ya, right!”
________________________________________
So what I read into this is since we can’t stop it then we should embrace the illegal gun trade? I guess you would agree that we should just let any Mexican or Chinese illegal in the country and stop guarding our borders and I’m sure you’ll find no problem with the tons of cocaine, pot, and heroin they happen to carry in either.
If you can’t beat um join um right?
Posted by: dk | October 1, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Paull — I guess you disagree with the Supreme Court as does Obama about the right to bear arms. Yahoooo! But my point is who needs to run guns. They are made in every lathe shop across the country.
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Gov. Matt Blunt was doing his job protecting the great people of Missouri, reminiscent of the Sedition Acts – not a free society.”
Just like an Obama suppoter to call people crazy when confronted with the truth.
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Okay Badger –
Here it goes. Let’s assume Obama is connected with ACORN. McCain is connected to Exxon. Does that make McCain responsible for the Valdez?
As for Ayers, he’s not “connected” to him unless you count the fact that (a) they lived in the same neighborhood and Ayers once donated $200 to Obama when he first ran for the state senate. Oh, and they both sat on the board of (I believe it was) a charity.
I have been asked to sit on boards before. One had 500 members. If one of those folks was a bad guy, does that make me a bad guy?
And Allinsky? He’s most noted for being the founder of modern community organizing. He was awarded the Pacem in Terris Peace and Freedom Award, which has been awarded annually since 1964 in commemoration of Pope John, 23rd. What’s your point?
My point–and your Allinsky reference proves it–is that you right-wingers listen to Rush, Hannity and any other numbnut who calls these people radical and so you believe it.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
The sun is high where I now live, with warm breezes and ocean cool blue waters now beckon me. Good-bye
Posted by: Judge | October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Let’s see, which guns are illegal? Oh, ya. The ones that Iran is trying to get. Other than those, I can go get all I want a block away. No need to go to China or Mexico. Or cheaper yet, everyone knows a machinist. But who needs guns, compound bows these days are more quiet. The point is that there is no illegal market for guns, except for criminals who aren’t supposed to have them anyway. There’s your market, and they are already illegal, duh!
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
shogunjse and Judge –
You two are too stupid to continue arguing with.
Judge, you make vague claims that you cannot prove and no one can deny. But I suspect that most Americans–indeed, I suspect nearly all Americans except you and shogunjse–would agree that FLOODING streets with guns is a bad thing.
Likewise, a nationally respected newspaper has reported that Gov. Blunt went off the deep end and that his actions were obviously political. I don’t have time to argue with you when you refuse to accept basic tenants that organized society recognizes: like gravity, or that the Earth rotates around the sun, etc.
To shogunjse — I do hunt. I have shot rifles and shotguns. My wife and I have owned custom-made shotguns, specifically fit for us. But you don’t need armor-piercing bullets to hunt.
Posted by: Paul | October 1, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
Why can’t she just say she doesn’t know?
Posted by: Kathy | October 1, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Well, I don’t have armor bullets, but I could see a need with the vests criminals wear these days.
And gosh Paul, why the personal attack. These are only opinions. I don’t mean to offend you.
I don’t see the need to add extra laws, as Obama didn’t see a need to add an extra law in the abortion issue, even though the child was alive.
Paul, get some sleep, would ya? :)
Posted by: shogunjse | October 1, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Paul
I barely know how to respond to such utter baloney. Obama is much more intimately connected to Acorn, and Ayers.
Obama was chosen by Ayers to be his Chairperson for CAC . He celebrated his right of passage into Chicago Politics at Ayers home, etc.
Obama as a lawyer represented Acorn,, and has mentored many of their team members.
Alinski was completely anti-american for starters. And wrote the book Rules For Radicals
Obama is a FRAUD. Accept it and be saved.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
Kathy
I agree 100% with you. Sarah Palin should not be trying to BS people. Having said that, she stilll has far more of a record of achievement to stand on than Barack Obama, who is good at BS-ing people.
Posted by: Badger | October 1, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
What a waste of time this post is…
While these little minds disect how important Dred and Plessy is Franklin Raines is getting ready for another 9-11 raid on our national stability.
Just keep keepin on Kati
you will look great in a burka
Posted by: Gilby | October 1, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
–( I agree 100% with you. Sarah Palin should not be trying to BS people. Having said that, she stilll has far more of a record of achievement to stand on than Barack Obama, who is good at BS-ing people. )–
Ok, so you are saying that she has a record of achievement in what regard? In running a government.. such as that 6000 person town in Alaska, or being the Governor of Alaska?
If so, can I ask how much experience McCain has in that regard?
Posted by: Concerned American | October 1, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
The logical fallacy of guilt-by-association is getting pretty tired. All of them have at one time been associated, lived near or worked with someone who has done questionable actions.
Most arguments wind up with comments such as “you will look great in a burka” or “Barack Obama, who is good at BS-ing people”, and completely duck the real issues facing this nation. Most are nothing more than bigoted statements lacking in substance, and completely duck real issues and the differences between the candidates.
Posted by: jj1221 | October 1, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
There is Nothing wrong with SARAH PALIN..there IS something WRONG with American voters who are fooled by cute SNL skits. Fooled by “snip its” of interviews . It’s a media circus, not election coverage.
Posted by: disillusioned2008 | October 1, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Well, the press can’t bother to ask Joe Biden if he could give us a ballpark estimate on when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president — or maybe take a stab at guessing the decade when televisions were first available to the public.
Posted by: Chris Anderson | October 1, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Yeah…, well how about some gotcha for Biden and Obama?
Where do ya find the best Moose liver?
What does the Kremlin look like on a clear Alaska morning?
How many shotguns does it take to force a frightened boy into marryin your daughter in time for an election?
What? Don’t know? Hah! Gotcha!
Posted by: J | October 1, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Anyone notice that she called herself a federalist … and then proceeded to give an anti-federalist position (states rights) …. ?????
Does she know what a federalist is? She’s anti-federalist on a few other things, too, including drilling at ANWR.
Posted by: waynew | October 1, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
But she’s a MAVRICK, see, she’s gonna “shake things up” .. she’s “country first” …
did i mention that she’s a MAVRICK???
Posted by: johng | October 1, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
energy,taxes,illegal immagration,foreign policy,jobs,russian aggression,iraq,iran,north korea,all the things you would think a reporter would ask ask i find in funny the questions the news wants to ask is what books you read ,mccains voting history might as well ask her how many molecules in water or what color pantys you like best cant the news find questions that might really be in the minds of voters
Posted by: david reyes | October 1, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
by the way i love bill clintons answer on whats the differance between hanging with david duke or rev wright after 5 minutes of thinking he said i dont wanna go there
Posted by: david reyes | October 2, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., who appeared on the Wednesday program in a separate interview, when asked which case he thought was wrongly decided, referred to but did not name United States v. Morrison in which the court overturned portions of the Violence Against Women Act, legislation that Biden had spearheaded
he spearheaded and couldnt remember the name oh myyyyyyy
Posted by: david reyes | October 2, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
“Well, the press can’t bother to ask Joe Biden if he could give us a ballpark estimate on when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president — or maybe take a stab at guessing the decade when televisions were first available to the public.”
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Or more importantly, What Sarah Palin did with the 300 million dollars of your money she took from the federal govt although she oppossed the “bridge to nowhere” and doesn’t believe in earmarks?
Posted by: dk | October 2, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
What i find most offensive is that she now tries to come off as a “Joe 6 Pack”, the average american. I sincerely hope that most americans are not like her.
I dont believe the average american believes earth is 4000 years old and dinosaurs coexisted with man. Or want creationism taught in public schools. I dont believe average americans thinks the Iraq war is a mission from God or that abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape.
Extremists are not avarage.
Posted by: JoeShmoe | October 2, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
here’s my question, why is everyone so quick to give excuses for Sarah Palin? Obama has been GRILLED by Republicans and the media. Joe Biden has been grilled by the media. Asking Palin a question like, name a specific newspaper that you read. Good Grief! How difficult was that? That’s not a “Gotcha” question, it’s an interest question. EVERYONE should be able to answer that, even if they DON’T read one, just say so. She was trying to look intelligent. Well, that backfired. Palin needs to step aside. She doesn’t represent America at all.
Posted by: amanda | October 2, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
By the way, wasn’t she a journalism major? What did she do with that degree anyway?
Posted by: amanda | October 2, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
“Gee..If these questions were directed at Obama, I wonder what his answers might be?”
Obama went to Harvard Law School and Columbia University. He taught law school in Chicago. Obviously, he can answer the question. This only shows how little YOU know about Obama and his qualifications to pass legislation.
And I would prefer a law professor to a sports journalist as professor any day.
Posted by: James | October 2, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
liberati, why do you Conservatives always cry “Gotcha Journalism” whenever your candidate flunks the most basic or elementary questions? How difficult is it for anyone to name one or two newspapers or publications? You ask if Obama would have been able to answer the same question … hell, yeah! I can (USA Today, Wall Street Journal), and I’m not running for political office, and I’ll bet you can too. Couric’s question is not stupid as you assert. What one reads offer an insight into that person’s views and presence of intellectual curiosity. I’m not a fan of Couric myself, but she is known for her sympathetic interview style and throwing softballs to interviewees as evidenced by her helping Palin complete her sentences (providing her with the word “mocked” when she couldn’t come up with it) and the newspaper question. Perhaps you can attribute Palin’s embarrassing performances without a prepared script to nervousness and over-cramming on subjects she doesn’t know about. But the fact remains that a person who has shown such supreme incuriosity about national and world issues has no business running for the second highest office in the land. A pretty smile and charm are not prerequisites for the VP position, much less POTUS.
Posted by: annaloh | October 2, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am
Whats this? Just another voice joining in on the abc fatwa against Palin.
You guys need something really interesting to do such as looking into the claims of the WSJ op/ed column this morning. I know, looking into the “doings” of crooked Lawyers and money changers is difficult but finding out those who were responsible for massive losses around the world isn’t as juicy as someone who doesn’t know where Sandra O’Connor buys her shoes at.
Posted by: david | October 2, 2008, 2:07 am 2:07 am
A Presidential candidate should be able to answer any question thrown at them with a reasonable degree of intelligence. It’s very clear this woman is trying to fake her way through.
Anyone on this post who defends the ignorance of Ms. Palin is being un-patriotic. The ONLY civic duty you have of great importance here is to competently choose the two people who will represent you here and around the world.
For the last 8 years, we’ve had a man who has been an embarrassment intellectually and it’s affected us – both in our standing and in the concrete thinking of his legislation. And look where we are.
So, for all of you who see this as a game where YOUR SIDE needs to win, it’s not about that. It’s about hiring the most competent people for this very complicated and difficult position, and this woman is far from qualified in any political scenario.
Posted by: hansel | October 2, 2008, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Obama does not know American history. Obama stated he will be the first Afro–American president. He is worse than Sarah Palin because it applies to Afro-Americans. Surprise Obama; you may not be the first Afro-American president of the United States of America. There are six ahead of you. Obama fails and cannot be a candidate for president because he never referenced the material about Afro-American presidents. He is not college oral.
Link:
http://g33klite.com/index.php/facts/general/76-general/188-6-black-american-presidents
After a thorough investigation, there is no doubt in backing and voting for
Ralph Nader.
http://www.votenader.org/about/
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am
I do not understand why some feel questions asked by Couric are biased and “gotcha” questions. These are questions to a VP canidate. If you feel they were unfair question, give some examples of what a VP should be asked?
If she were a man this wouldnt even have been brought up. I want her to do good tonight. Even though I am a Obama supporter, I will sleep easier if I know she can be a good VP and has the qualifications to sit in the Oval Office if called upon. Who knows–McCain/Palin might win and if so, knowing we are in good hands is important. Biden should not take the debate lightly. Palin won the debate on the Gov. race. Why does it seem a woman canidate has to be treated with special gloves. Equality is exactly that. She should be treated the same, same questions on domestic and international issues should be asked and the debate should be fair game for both without worrying if Biden picked on her.
Posted by: CW | October 2, 2008, 3:10 am 3:10 am
Barack Obama, Resume*1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland on Chicago’s South Side.*1992 Led Chicago’s Project Vote! push. This effort resulted in a record number of voter registrations, over 600,000 in Chicago. 1)Teaching*1993-2004 Visiting Law and Government Fellow, then Senior Lecturer, in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.Law Practice*1993-2002 Worked as an associate attorney with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.Illinois Senate 1996-2004*Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee, Illinois Senate***United States Senate 2004-present*Member, US Senate Foreign Relations Committee*Chairman, US Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs*Member, US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions*Member, US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs*Member, US Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs————-Obama probably could name a paper or magazine or two. He could also answer Sup. Court decisions—–For those of you that want to compare Palin to Obama.
Posted by: CW | October 2, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Sarah Palin – Meredith Viera (sp?)will not be moderating the debate…you won’t be able to use a lifeline…
Posted by: Lily Bell | October 2, 2008, 3:27 am 3:27 am
“gotcha journalism” = asking questions to which Palin doesn’t know the answer.
Posted by: plantain11 | October 2, 2008, 3:29 am 3:29 am
I know PhD engineers that have a stack of books for reference. If a person knows how to use and understand references, that is all that is needed of them. Let me ask Obama and Biden some questions. I know that they would not be able to answer one question. The questions would about world affairs and American history. You cannot expect Sarah Palin or Obama to have total recall. You people are living in an unreal world.
No vote for Obama
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
I’d like Obammie to answer that question. good grief people – you ask her these questions, then cite court cases from the 1800′s (when you google them) and damn her for not knowing off the hip?
FREAKS.
Posted by: obamayomama | October 2, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
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Posted by: historyremembered | October 2, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am
You forgot a few things about Obama.
http://www.theobamafile.com/
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
obamayomama – you blurted “I’d like Obammie to answer that question.” Were you aware that Barack Obama was a senior lecturer on Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School? I’m sure he would have had no problem answering.
Posted by: plantain11 | October 2, 2008, 3:50 am 3:50 am
Obama on constitutional law and the Bill Of Rights
http://www.infowars.com/?p=4897
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 4:05 am 4:05 am
I am observing this debate from Europe and just saw her last interview. I am shocked. Maybe her silence implies her acceptance of the Hamdan and Boumediene decisions? I am not sure…
Posted by: eve | October 2, 2008, 4:06 am 4:06 am
Some of you people are clueless. She can’t even come up with Exxon v. Baker, a case “she” wrote an op-ed piece about? You would defend her against any statement. Fortunately, only 25% of the country is so blinded by their politics.
Posted by: Exxon This? | October 2, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
Palin certainly seemed overwhelmed when asked about Supreme Court decisions. I’m fascinated more by Palin’s apparent inability to name a single newspaper or magazine that she has read. This subject is so basic, so non-gotcha, that anyone should have been able to come up with an answer. So why not Palin? Here is all I could come up with.
The McCain/Palin camp is so afraid of losing votes — any votes — that they don’t want to choose a periodical that might be perceived to slant one way or the other. This seems unlikely however when you consider she is already on the record leaning far right.
Like Chance the gardener, she gets all her news from TV. Possible, but she still should have been able to fake it, and toss off the name of any mag or paper. Unless the comparison to Chance is – I won’t go there.
She didn’t want to play favorites. Unlikely since she (or McCain) have had no problem thus far picking and choosing between TV interviews.
Can anyone come up with a good reason for Palin’s lack of an answer on this no-brainer?
Posted by: Rudy | October 2, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
at least she did not ask a parapalegic to stand up and take a bow.
Posted by: geroge | October 2, 2008, 4:17 am 4:17 am
Europe is approving codex. That means complete control by the prescription drug companies for vitamins, minerals, herbs, food supplements, and anything that is healthy. The drug companies will raise prices of healthy products by as much as six times.
This is how socialized medicine works in Europe, plus the long lines for necessary surgeries. Obama’s national health plan is a no vote. No vote for Obama.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Don’t underestimate the therapeutic value of placing someone dumber than ourselves in positions of power. The past eight years have done wonders for my self-esteem!
Posted by: Rodger | October 2, 2008, 4:20 am 4:20 am
You don’t know crap … Judge
“This is how socialized medicine works in Europe, plus the long lines for necessary surgeries”
In Canada, I pay NOTHING for drugs/dental/surgery whatever. Our model is based on the European Medical system.
Saves big time on the long lineups at bankruptcy court ….
Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 2, 2008, 4:26 am 4:26 am
You would not expect the average individual to be able to name Supreme Court Cases, however, you would expect a Governor running for VP to be able to site more than Roe v. Wade. Those that support Palin feel that Katie is unfair, how is that she asked Biden the same question. I wonder why she can remember the script when it comes to taking shots at Obama and Biden but she rambles when it come to responding to issues that are of great concern to all Americans.
Posted by: Bmoe | October 2, 2008, 4:33 am 4:33 am
Beyond the tap dance around the Supreme Court decisions, her comments on the constitutional right to privacy are fascinating. In once sentence she agrees in a constitutional guarantee, in the next she says it can be dealt with at a local level.
http://palincounter.blogspot.com/
Posted by: billthomson | October 2, 2008, 4:34 am 4:34 am
Judge –
I am left of center but it’s people like you that make me question the wisdom of free speech.
Posted by: Paul | October 2, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am
PaulinVanc
I heard many complaints when I was associated with a 700 bed hospital in the US for over 30-years… You pretend to live in Canada, I doubt it. That is why there are many foreign doctors working in the USA.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 4:43 am 4:43 am
Go ahead and give up all your freedoms under the American Constitution and the Bill Of Rights. I could care less when you live from day to day not knowing what is about to happen to you. Look at the Russian failures and the long lines for just a loaf of bread.
I am set for the remainder of my life. I own property and have more than enough money. Without freedoms, you will never come close to what I have.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 4:48 am 4:48 am
To Voter In America
Obama is a frigging professor of law for f*** sake! That means he teaches United States law to would be lawyers and judges. Don’t you think he’ll be able to answer a supreme court question? Or are just too much of a muppet to see beyond your ignorance?
Posted by: Voodoo | October 2, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am
If Rick Davis is MORE CORRUPT than Acorn, Why does Capital Socialists only focus on Acorn.
Say No to McCains Pork add on’s to the Bill.
Say No to Wooden Arrows.(If wood=Metal, then you can figure out Arrows) :)
Say No to WallStreet Rescue
Watch CNN and MSNBC
Checkout Turning Points, with Tom Brokow, for History Outlines and Debates. Including JFK’s Debate.
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Posted by: historyremembered | October 2, 2008, 5:02 am 5:02 am
So she froze in an interview. Now we know she opposed Exxon Shipping v. Baker.
Most people can’t cite Supreme Court cases off the top of their head.
Posted by: JimBeam | October 2, 2008, 5:10 am 5:10 am
You can put lipstick on a pitbull, but that won’t make any smarter.
On the upside, Nov 5 she can go back to shooting animals. At least they don’t ask funny questions first.
Posted by: rogerthomas | October 2, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Most of you probably do not know that there has been no Supreme Court case challenging the internment of German Americans and Italian Americans during World War II.
And why is this?
Posted by: CrystalCity1945 | October 2, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Voodoo
Here is Obama’s answer to the American Constitution.
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=2413
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
Joe Biden is a law professor. Of course he knows Supreme Court cases.
Yet he gave a wrong or irrelevant answer to the Roe question. Roe does talk about trimesters. But that part of Roe was overruled by Casey. Biden was talking about a ruling that is no longer good for that point of law.
That’s a very technical error, but Joe Biden should know better.
Posted by: JimBeam | October 2, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am
CrystalCity1945
Only Japanese went into camps. No Germans and Italians went into camps unless they served with or for the Nazis. Please, go get a history lesson about World War II.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 5:18 am 5:18 am
So what if Palin is stupid? Bush is stupid too, and look how many people still support him, even on top of years of failures.
People in general are stupid. Wouldn’t it be nice to live in a place surrounded by smart people? On the other hand, it would be that much harder to get ahead.
Posted by: Life | October 2, 2008, 5:22 am 5:22 am
Well Judge, I am not going to give you my address but I can assure you I do live in Canada. In fact I live about a block away from the US.
There are many doctors who leave Canada in search of the big dollars in the US .. now where do you think those dollars are generated .. off the backs of those who can least afford it.
From your posts, it would seem you are one of the “lucky” rich folks who simply want to keep the status quo. Part owner in an HMO are you?
The rich are ok down there not everyone is so lucky. Doesn’t everyone deserve basic human healthcare so that you can concentrate on rebuilding your country?
The last eight years has been a disaster and left the US in such a mess. McCain and Palin talk about “change”. What you really need is real change.
Posted by: PaulinVanc | October 2, 2008, 5:32 am 5:32 am
Paul –
If speech were not free, then intellectually bankrupt folks like “Judge” would not be able to speak!
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 5:52 am 5:52 am
And let’s not forget the Chinese Exclusion Case,in which the Supreme Court ruled that Congress had the right to exclude all Chinese immigration to the United States “for the preservation of our Civilization.”
Posted by: molama | October 2, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
BFD- What does that have to do with being the V.P. Its a history lesson. Obama didnt realize the Russians freed the Auschwitz victims. Obama didnt realize his parents were not a Selma. He also didnt realize, after 20 years that his pastor was spewing hatred toward whites and the government. He also didnt know that his buddy William Ayers bombed the pentagon. Why not print that
Posted by: gomac | October 2, 2008, 5:53 am 5:53 am
Wasn’t Bush a regular guy that everyone wanted to have a beer with at a BBQ? How did that experiment workout?
Posted by: John In Canada | October 2, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
Gomac,
Talk about “gotcha.” The Obama statement you’re referring to is one in which Obama said his grandfather helped free one concentration camp when he actually helped free another one called Buchenwald. The fact is that Auschwitz is synonymous with The Hollocaust, so what difference does it make.
What a ridiculous criticism.
Posted by: Paul | October 2, 2008, 6:00 am 6:00 am
DJZ
You talk just like an Obama supporter, all wind with nothing to support your empty words.
I have all that I need because there was a hint of this financial crisis. It was thougth to happen in the year 2002.
I own a lot of property FREE and clear because I do not spend money I do not have. My money is safe because I am not an Obama supporter. Just wait, this is not over by a long shot.
I’ll on my pristine beach not thinking of you.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am
Links to socialized medicine:
For Canada:
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/08/another_sociali.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/socialized.htmlJudge
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am
@Federalist-sorry, but YOU got it wrong-federalism is more baout regional or state autonomy than otherwise. Get your facts right before you jump all over Sarah Palin, okay?
Posted by: Tim | October 2, 2008, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Judge –
You seem to miss the point, again. My critique of you is based on the fact that you cite quotes from people as proof of the underlying “fact” (like you did with Blunt). Or some out of context “talking point” from morons like Rush and Fox News.
What you seem incapable of doing is critical thought, so like most of your cohorts, you resort to attacks of the “liberal” media and anything else you don’t like. For people like you and, sadly, the Republican Party, politics has become a game of “win at all costs.”
I have followed politics closely since I first became interested in them more than 30 years ago as Reagan was becomming popular, and McCain and the Republicans — and people like you who support them — have run the most dishonorable campaign I have ever seen.
Because you’re on the wrong side of this election — at least by what most polls are saying today — you resort to lies, rumors and innuendo in a lame attempt to discredit the candidate who is on the right side.
So I suspect you are telling the truth when you say you own lots of property and are sitting on a beach somewhere. And I also suspect that’s why you oppose Obama: because every INDEPENDENT economist in the country has said his economic plan is better than McCain’s for 95% of the country, and 95% of us don’t own “a lot of property FREE and clear.” We own one house and when asked, we know we own only one house.
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:18 am 6:18 am
Dan Quayle set the bar pretty low for VP candidates and we seemed to muddle through the next four years somehow. But that’s because he was VP to a knowledgable and healthy G.H.W. Bush in the White House.
The stakes are much higher this time. For someone who is a ‘heartbeat away from the presidency’, the Pale ‘Un is in way over her head. McCain is old, diseased and seems half crazy at times. If he suddenly went south during his term of office, would the lady be up to the challenge of taking over?
Tune in tonight and let’s see how well she does after completing a week at an intensive debators’ boot camp.
Posted by: Arturo Bandini | October 2, 2008, 6:21 am 6:21 am
by Pierre Lemieux
http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html
“The most visible consequence of socialized medicine in Canada is in the poor quality of services. Health care has become more and more impersonal. Patients often feel they are on an assembly line. Doctors and hospitals already have more patients than they can handle and no financial incentive to provide good service. Their customers are not the ones who write the checks anyway.”
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am
Tim,
If you were not in America, you would be right. But Palin is in America, and therefore she’s wrong. In the States, a federalist is one who supports a strong central government, e.g., George Washington and John Adams, whereas the anti-federalists supported a weak confederation, like Jefferson and Madison.
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
The Vice President and President of the United States SHOULD be able to name court cases, they should be able to discuss complex issues that the “average Joe Six Pack” doesn’t know about. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD HERE!!! Not you and me going to our jobs — sure we’re smart. I’ve accomplished a lot but I am NOT ready to be a heartbeat away from becoming the President!! AND NEITHER IS PALIN!! Doesn’t mean she is the devil – but come on!!
Posted by: frank | October 2, 2008, 6:23 am 6:23 am
Judge –
You are a moron. Healthcare is ALREADY impersonal. HMOs tell doctors what procedures they should or should not perform.
Try to look behind the obvious and see what’s really going on (sort of like seeing the forest through the trees). The folks who oppose some kind of healthcare plan seem to overlook who benefits most from not having one: insurance companies.
So once again the Republicans have succeeded in convincing the unthinking into believing that they are one our side when in fact they are quite the opposite.
Though I suspect they are on Judge’s side, given that Judge has so much property and all and is very, very rich. I would say you are intellectually consistent, but before I could say that, you have to show you have intellect.
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Next time just ask her about moose hunting,i bet she still going to look stupid…NO more dummy in the white house,enough is enough..O.B.08
Posted by: PAT IN PARIS | October 2, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
Diz
Connect the with the links I supply. I hope you do not mind waiting in an ER for six hours for the pain you suffer.
by Pierre Lemieux
http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html
I really do not care who gets your vote.
I will not be suffering your pain.
No Vote For Obama!
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
Judge –
I doubt the lines will be 6 hours long, and since you are so very, very, very rich, you probably have not had to worry about getting healthcare. But try your argument on someone who has been diagnosed with a rare disease and has been told by his or her insurance company that they won’t pay for your treatment.
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:37 am 6:37 am
Palin, what an airhead. If McCain puts as much thought into our country as he did Palin,,,,bend over,,,we’re doomed.
Posted by: indaoffice | October 2, 2008, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Hey Judge,
Sounds like even McCain supports Obama. This morning, on Fox News, he basically cribbed off Obama’s economic policy for job creation by saying his policies would create more new jobs in the area of renewable energy.
Obama’s plan has been saying this for 18 months. But just 4 months ago, McCain’s plan to fix the energy problem was to give us a gas tax holiday. Remember that?
Posted by: Paul | October 2, 2008, 6:47 am 6:47 am
To all you who keep railing against the “liberal media,” where were you earlier this year when we spent 3 weeks listening to the same 30 second soundbite of Rev. Wright? Where were you when the Rezko and other “sketchy” characters were talked about nonstop?
We know where the Judge was. He was in one of his many, many homes, probably near the beach. But where were you?
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am
P.S. — To all you who keep railing against the “liberal media,” the difference between the media’s treatment of Obama and Palin is that the country got to know Obama over the last 2 years, and certainly over the last 9 months, but the McCain campaign has practically hidden Palin except when she’s giving speeches. Then, when the media asks her the tough questions like, what newspapers or magazines do you read, they are called biased.
Give me a break!
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 6:51 am 6:51 am
Mrs. Vice-President, has killed the President, now _you_ are President. A nuke has blown New York! What should we do?
VP: “I think I’ll have to get back to you on that one :-) !
Get the picture — if you are a rue Republican, vote Barr.
Posted by: torres | October 2, 2008, 6:57 am 6:57 am
Time to do more important things then trying to show Obama supporters the err of their ways. America is at a critical time in its long great history, without a true leader to help it be rise high again. Obama is a socialist and we all know about Russia’s failures to a proud people, standing in long lines for a loaf of bread that was not there.
Obama points to the Chinese remarking of all their great accomplishment, like the man who was arrested for trying to earn a little extra money by selling extra pies he made and not telling the local government. He went to jail and no one ever saw him again. But what does it matter that is only a man, so insignificant unless that man is you. So look to your Obama and then one day cry, I wish I was a free man again, with the chance to serve a great country and not just one man.
Good-bye, I will be enjoying my pristine beach when the sun rises again, and for sure I will not be thinking of you. I am positive you will get what you deserve
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
One last word from me…..Again, Obama steals an idea and tells everyone it is his. Green Peace an other organization has been calling for renewable energy for more than ten years.
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 7:13 am 7:13 am
One cannot not be this stupid its got to be an act seriously like one post said snl doesnt even have to write, Tina fey can do Sara based on Sara no script writing sad sad and just to think some want this ticket GOD HELP US!!!!
Posted by: angie | October 2, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Judge, how many Green candidates are there in the House? The Senate? How many Green candidats have been elected President?
The difference between Obama and McCain on energy is that Obama is the first electable candidate who has won broad-based support for these ideas. And once that happened, McCain said, “me too.”
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
We previously discussed the language in the new Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, in particular those clauses that eliminate federal forests as a source of biofuels material [here, here]. The protests in that regard by numerous involved citizens has borne fruit.
Last week a bipartisan coalition of representatives introduced H.R. 5236 to correct the language in the Energy Act. The following is taken in its entirety from Greg Walden’s website [here].
Herseth Sandlin – Walden Bill Would Promote Development and Use of Cellulosic Ethanol Derived from Wood Waste on Federal Lands
February 7, 2008 – WASHINGTON, D.C.
Last night, Rep. Herseth Sandlin (D-SD) and Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR) introduced the Renewable Biofuels Facilitation Act (H.R. 5236), legislation that would promote the development and use of cellulosic ethanol derived from woody biomass on federal lands. The bill would significantly broaden the definition of cellulosic ethanol within the Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) to include more biomass gathered from federal lands.
The Link:
http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2008/02/11/bipartisan-house-coalition-introduces-legislation-to-fix-biomass-definition-in-renewable-fuels-standard/
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am
Judge — I’m drinking coffee now, thank you for your concern. One of the key pieces of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 is the requirement that U.S. automakers improve fuel efficiency to 35 MPG. This term has been repeatedly opposed by Republicans and the automakers (and it largely explains why U.S. automakers are trailing their foreign competition by such a sizeable margin).
Obama has been discussing these kinds of terms at least since he begin running for office. I first heard him say this last summer. He did not give this speech to a friendly bunch of tree-huggers. He said it in a Detroit factory. He won support for this idea because many people recognize that as long as Detroit continues making gas-guzzlers, it will not be competitive in the global market, and that will hurt the U.S. economy.
Do you have enough caffeine?
Posted by: DJZ | October 2, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am
DJZ
I am a purist. In other words, a health nut. Moreover, I am 70-years-old and my youngest daughter will soon be 3-year-old. I do not believe in socialism and socialized medicine. I do not like Obama’s background and he can never change that. I like the free enterprise system because I did very well, even though I was born very poor and fatherless. Many times, I worked eighty-hour weeks so I can be where I am today.
I must now go because where I live now it is night. The pristine white beach is waiting for me in the morning. A final good-bye
Posted by: Judge | October 2, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
I am a Democrat, and hold firm to my beliefs; however, I am certainly open-minded enough to listen to the opposing view and entertain other viewpoints. And, I am intelligent enough to admit when my own party needs to make changes or has weaknesses. When Barack received the nomination his lack of experience was questioned, particularly foreign policy experience. What did he do? He choose a VP candidate to fill that gap. John McCain is weak concerning economic issues, by his own admission. What did he do? He choose Sarah Palin. His choice was clearly to try to manipulate the STRONG, INTELLIGENT American women by choosing a candidate who has only one positive; she’s female. How insulting? Does the Republican party really feel that negatively about American women? Do they really believe that we are that easily manipulated? How is it that the women in the country are not irate over this? Republican or Democrat, how can ANY person with, never mind intellect, just pure common sense defend this choice?
Posted by: LORI | October 2, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
this is unbelievable! how can she be running as vp and not know at least one supreme court case she does not agree with. seems to be, based on her republican convention speech, she could have at least recalled miranda.
what i also don’t understand is all those defending palin with the “well, most americans cannot name supreme court cases off the cuff like that.” my response – most americans are not running for vp of the united states. don’t we want our vp to be held to a higher standard? or has the last 8 years really lowered the bar that much that we just want one of the gals or one of the guys in office?
Posted by: NHasan | October 2, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
This was a simple question most of us learned in school. Most of us can name Supreme Court caes…MarburyVSMadison, BrownVSBoardofEducation,ThePeopleVSLarryFlint;). Oh, Palin could have talked about the Supreme Court ruling that slashed the amount that EXXON has to pay for the 1989 EXXON Valdez accident. I am sure that she disagreed with that and that she had plenty to say about it. She said nothing.
Posted by: Francheska | October 2, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
How rediculous is it to say that Couric was out of line asking her to comment on a Supreme Court decision, she’s running for Vice Preident for Christ’s sake. And now you can’t even ask what newspapers she reads?? Give me a freaking break, conservatives are absolutely pathetic with these “Gotcha Journalism” claims.
How come Biden had no problem giving an answer? I think CBS has truly stumbled upon a great new way of enlightening the public to the shortcomings of the Republican candidates. I don’t see the Democrats railing about how unfair it was for her to ask Biden that question and when you put the two side by side it’s clear she has no clue what the hell she is talking about.
She is doing herself, the country and her party a disservice by continuing to run in this election especially since party members have to go out there and defend her by defiling themselves making rediculous claims about “gotcha journalism”. Can you really look at John McCain the same way after hearing him say that asking Palin about what newspapers she reads or to name a Supreme Court decision is out of bounds and “Gotcha Politics”. Give me a break.
If you feel differently feel free to email me bziegs@yahoo.com, I’d be happy to hear your opinion
Posted by: Bryan | October 2, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Badger, I have no idea where you are digging up your information. When I want to check info on a candidate, it helps to search these sites: the Annenberg Political Fact Check, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania; the Washington Post’s The Fact Checker; PolitiFact From St. Petersburg Times and Congressional Quarterly; and Snopes.com investigates urban legends. Factcheck.barackobama.com and JohnMcCain.com. It’s clear both sides are exaggerating. But you repeated posts about debunked stories are beginning to sound shrill. McCain’s campaign is stretching the truth in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama on “housing and mortgage policy.” And the William Ayers connection is tenuous mud slinging. The Marxist connection is bogus. And Obama’s campaign has presented its own misrepresentations. Expand your information.
Posted by: Center One | October 2, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
Palin is her own worst enemy !! All the late night comics have given their joke writers the day off because all you need to do is repeat Sarah’s words. She is a complete idiot !! My 5th grader speaks better than she ever will. All we get from Sarah is ramblings, disoriented facts (if you can call them facts), exaggerations and lies. I can guarantee that Sarah will rely on her nasty digs and uncalled for remarks to win points at the debate. There will be no substanance to anything she has to say. She is a common street fighter who only knows how to throw low blows and has the mouth of a truck driver. This is not the debate for Governor of Alaska. This debate is for the VP of US. She is totally out of her league. Let’s not give the rest of the world more reason to laugh at the US.
Posted by: Jacki L | October 2, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am
“I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.”
Posted by: Lauren Upton | October 2, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
What matters is that a person who is a heart beat away from leading this country knows nothing about the major issues facing it. she is NOT from middle America and whom ever suggested that is a fool. What a joke. Palin is G W Bush jr. No experience and a weak gov from a weak state. How does the rest of the country not see this?
From a social studies teacher in Ohio!
Posted by: will | October 2, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
We deserve better than a Vice President with six years of transfer credits to a farm University for a degree in broadcast journalism. No wonder she cannont communicate any depth of understanding about US current events or history. She can see Russia from Alaska? Putin in Alaska air space? unreal.
Posted by: CaliRules | October 2, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
She thought the question was about the musical group the Supreme’s and she seems to know more about Country music.
Posted by: kent | October 2, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am
All she had to do was metion the Exxon vs baker case and nto by name even. She rallied for it and was upset when the Supremes did away with the billions of dollars in punitive damages that SHE rallied for; that the state of Alaska filed a brief in the case. You can read for yourself about her rally for this Supreme Court case.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS140270+25-Feb-2008+PRN20080225
She could nto remember it? It effected her state under her watch to the tune of BILLIONS.
As to what she reads, had she not said, I did nto go back packing I learned from reading, then the question would be irrelevant. She said thatis hwere she got her knowledge of the world.
Please please listen to what she is syaing and nt saying. She speaks in generalities. This woman also beleives that your, yes, your, daughter, niece or sister if raped, even by her uncle should have to have the baby or it would be ILLEGAL not to do so. There but for the grace of God go any of us.
Biden and she were asked the smae questions and you heard the answers, but were you really listening.
Posted by: Shocked | October 2, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
As a lawyer, I am not concerned that Palin could not recall a Supreme Court case during the interview. (Since she was recently critical of the court’s handling of the Exxon punitive award, you would think that case would have popped into her head.) No, what shocked me was her statement that the consitution does provide a right to privacy followed by the contradictory assertion that the state was the best party to protect that federal right! She apparently has never considered the legal arguments that have gone back and forth in the abortion debate for decades. She just thinks the issue is “so important” the states should decide. Non-sequitur.
Posted by: J Ward | October 2, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
I am also a woman, also practical, also have this country’s best interest at heart. Am I qualified to be the Vice President of the United States? NO.
Posted by: drose33 | October 2, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
You repubs get on my nerves. At first I was ignoring your unwarranted hate for Obama because you want your candidate to win I understand that. However Obama can name Supreme Court cases and he can speak about foreign policy. Gibson asked Palin “tough questions” and people were mad because they were issue questions not the softball questions Obama supposedly gets. Katie Couric ask her to list things and those are “gotcha” questions. Do they need to ask her about shooting things and having babies for them to be fair questions. I can’t think of any question easier than name periodicals that shape your worldview. I just got asked a similar question in my graduate level Research Methods course, instead of periodicals I was asked to list experiences. She could have said that my life shapes my worldview not the media. That would have a been a gotcha answer.
I know Obama understands the constitution and how to relate to people of other cultures, and how the economy runs. I actually can say that about McCain too.You don’t have to agree with Obama on these things but you do have to admit he at least understands them. The same can’t be said for Palin.
Posted by: Ashley | October 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Bias article and comments. Not even voting R or D but can see that people hear and believe what they want, not the facts.
Posted by: bittersweet4u | October 2, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I have never liked K. Couric. However, I am beginning to get very worried about Sarah Palin. I should John McCain should have chosen someone else as his running mate.
Posted by: Lisa Again | October 2, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
If Obama can go on The O Factor and stand up to the grilling,on The Fair & Balanced network, then why are repub. crying because Sarah P. couldn’t stand up to her grilling. Repubs. what do you want Affirmative Action (SMILE)
Posted by: timl wash | October 2, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Why don’t you ask Obama if he knows the answers to the questions that Palin has been asked. He has even less experience than Palin but yet who qustions him? Obama has been in senate for 2 years and only around 6 months to vote. Yet what did he mark when he was there–present. God forbid the man have an opinion. Thanks to Tina Fey, who knows nothing about politics, we have an impression of Palin that all liberals and Bush haters love. Let’s actually get serious and look at the fact people.
Posted by: Jill | October 2, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
In the end, Palin’s answer about the Supreme Court is just as unimportant as when Obama’s, when asked which Supreme Court Justice he would have not appointed, said Clarence Thomas “because he didn’t have enough experience” when appointed – not enough experience?? Of course, no one in the media pounced on that even though Clarence Thomas had more “experience” than any other sitting judge. The media gave Obama yet another free pass on that one.
Posted by: Me Again | October 2, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
I agree with the poster above who said that if Tina Fey can do the impersonation without one drop of script change from the original…we are in deep doo dah.
And Obama’s grand father was in the liberation group that freed Buchenwald in Gen Eisenhower’s army. It’s synonymous and symbolic as is Frigidaire with refrigerator or tissue with Kleenex.
Why doesn’t everyone just admit to the the fact that Senator McCain and Governor Palin have WHITE PRIVILEGE. Google it and see what it means.
I just know that President Obama will not imprison people or have an enemy’s list and that makes my conservative sensibilities feel nourished.
Posted by: sallylacovitzer | October 2, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Who was the biggest bleeding heart Liberal in written history……
Come on you can figure it out….
Jesus of Nazareth. Apparently, being a Christian is the exact opposite of being a conservative.
Conservatives only care about themselves and their God “Money”
Posted by: Tom | October 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Why does anyone really care which Supreme Court decisions she agrees with? She’s not an attorney, doesn’t need to study the law – even if she doesn’t agree with a ruling, the vice president (or even the president) can’t overturn SCOTUS decisions – neither the president or the vice president decide which cases are heard before the SCOTUS. All the president can do is APPOINT a justice if there is a vacancy – What Katie Couric should have kept her questions relevent – what characteristics would you look for in a Supreme Court justice; which justice do you least agreed with, or which justice you would not have appointed. Asking her to list rulings she doesn’t agree with is crazy. As a voter, I don’t care about that, I just want to know who she would appoint and why.
Posted by: Why? | October 2, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Mc cain is awsome, palin is the smartest woman i have ever seen. You are all to ignorant to realize the truth about the true patriots!
Posted by: IloveJESUS | October 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Mc cain is awsome, palin is the smartest woman i have ever seen. You are all to ignorant to realize the truth about the true patriots!
Posted by: IloveJESUS | October 2, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
According to the article, Biden, when asked the same question cited only one case (that involved legislation he was involved in). Palin cited one case she didn’t agree with … is there a reason why Palin was asked to cite more cases then Biden?
Posted by: Hmmm | October 2, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
“I agree with the poster above who said that if Tina Fey can do the impersonation without one drop of script change from the original…we are in deep doo dah. ” Thats not what I said. You can take any conversation and twist it the way you want w/o changing any words. Its not hard, ask all those sketch people. What does Obama’s lineage have to do with him being experienced enough for President. IloveJESUS made a GREAT point. Come on people, STOP believing the media and their one side. God forbid we don’t listen to what they have to say and take their every word to hear. And sallylacovitzer, lets touch on your topic. What does money have to do with Conservatives? Hilary Clinton is a liberal, yet she has one of the highest dollar amounts of earmarks. So I guess we can deduct that liberals only do what is in their best interest and not of this country. McCain, by the way, has NONE and he has been around longer than Clinton.
Posted by: Jill - from above | October 2, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am
after the debate to night, j.mccan, will come up with a way to canciel the election for president.
sorry j.mccan, you lost.
Posted by: dustyridge | October 2, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
after the debate to night, j.mccan, will come up with a way to canciel the election for president.
sorry j.mccan, you lost.
Posted by: dustyridge | October 2, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
after the debate to night, j.mccan, will come up with a way to canciel the election for president.
sorry j.mccan, you lost.
Posted by: dustyridge | October 2, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Obama’s experience has been in question, however, he has been on the campaign trail for over a year, managed to overcome a most formiddable opponent to achieve the nomination, and has EARNED his way to where he is. His hard work, values, intellect, judgement, emotional intelligence… is very apparent, and is why the American people support him. Palin came in on top, a handout if you will, and has promptly convinced the majority of people that she is NOT QUALIFIED. You can’t compare the two, the differences are obvious and glaring.
Posted by: ed | October 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Obama is nothing but a smooth talking politician. We need no more of those people in office. He is nothing more than an opportunist. HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE. No matter who he beat on the campaign trail. Experience is experience and you do not get it by campaigning. But nice try on trying to give him a position he isnt in.
Posted by: Jill | October 2, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
I am not a big Political person and therefore not a huge Obama supporter…but i will say this, Ron “the teacher” is an idiot.
I mean really…saying “she can learn”..since when is VP an learn-on-the-job type of position.
Really, a teacher? Louisiana must have really low standards for teacher credentials.
Posted by: Rob | October 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Okay since when is the President of the United States a “on-the-job” position? Let me quote Hillary Clinton, “When that phone rings, whether it’s 3pm or 3am, in the white house, there is no time for speeches or on-the-job training.”
Doesn’t it usually work like this: Master Craftsman trains the Apprentice… How come the Democratic ticket has the Apprentice leading the Master Craftsman?
Posted by: LionJayson | October 2, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I live in Singapore and US politics interest me. For few days now, our radio hosts has making fun of McCain/Palin. “When we look outside our window, we see Malaysia our neighbor country. That makes us qualified to be Foreign Minister.” Laughable. I believe Obama/Biden ticket is the best for Americans. They are both intelligent and charismatic people and Democrats has full loads of intellectuals smart people compared to Republicans.
In Asia, we hope and wish Obama/Biden to win the election. We see Obama/Biden as an ideal figure to lead and bring prosperous and respects to the USA. May God Bless America!
Posted by: misssg | October 2, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
The Republicans have done a pretty good job of vilifying their opponents as eggheads and “elitists” while they themselves are wealthy and attended prestigious universities. They foster and pander to anti-elitist sentiment to get votes while actually supporting the uber-wealthy elitists!
Posted by: Dragun | October 2, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Urrrrghhhh! I am so disgusted to listen to all of this ridiculous bunch of garbage about how Sarah relates to middle America. Give me a break! If there is anyone out there that does not believe that the most powerful political leaders in this country have to have a HIGH LEVEL OF INTELLECT, you are just plain ignorant yourself. To be an effective leader, you have to have critical and creative thinking. People with high intelligent display these characteristics. She is about an embarrassment to the American people. She knows NOTHING about NOTHING, except how to NOT answer a question. Why? Because she cannot think on her own. She LACKS intellect. She is so out of her league.
And, to the social studies teacher who made the comment about not caring what she knows, are you kidding me? Please tell me that this is not what you teach your students. Please tell me that you do not tell them to judge their potential political leaders by if you feel comfortable having a cup of coffee with them. Goodness…our students need to understand their responsibility as American citizens on a higher standard than this. Hopefully, you will think about those statements and reevaluate.
I pray that this country wakes up and screams from their rooftops, we are not this easily manipulated.
Posted by: LORI | October 3, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Palin’s dismal lack of knowledge about the “great history” of the United States that she purports to support is embarrassing: Embarrassing for anyone who wants to be second in charge as the “Commander In Chief” and being only a heartbeat away from being able to appoint justices to the US Supreme Court. Are we kidding here? Maybe your average citizen has no appreciation for the Supreme Court, but someone vying for the VP spot needs to be an expert. She couldn’t even name a case. That is pathetic. Message to McCain-Palin supporters: WAKE UP!
Posted by: CW-SQR3 | October 15, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am