Stock Market Dives — How You Doing?
Okay…what about that 700 billion dollar rescue plan? Well, that’s going to take time we’re told. And unfortunately there is NO quick fix for the VERY bad news in jobs, home values, and consumer confidence. The market is off nearly 700 points right now. To give you a sense of how bad the market has been of late — If you bought Microsoft 10 years ago — you just watched your gains ERASED. So, what are you cutting back on or doing without these days? Tell us.

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Posted by: Christa | October 6, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Panic is the enemy. The numbers are bad and things will get worse before they get better, but nonetheless they will get better. Make sure you have enough cash on hand to pay your bills for the next few months and you’ll be fine.
Posted by: 1percenter | October 6, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I just finished reading an article on the Great Depression and guess what? Almost mirrors what is happening except for FDIC insured money which is being used up fast.
Leham Bros: Fult is testifing that he deserved the millions in salary and bonuses…they all should be sent to jail!
Posted by: cissy55 | October 6, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
This problem is said to be caused by the bad home loans so why are we bailing out the companies that provided them? If the government wants to bail them out here is my suggestion.. Pass another 750 Billion bill and give each taxpayer $300,000.00. For a married couple they would get a total of $600,000.00. They can than take this money and pay off their homes (on average $250,000.00). This would clear all the bad debt the banks are saying are causing this problem. The balance of the money given to the taxpayers would surely be put back into the markets and the economy would be flowing. It is about time the Government takes steps to help all American not just Corporate American. Everybody should write their Congressmen/women and tell them we want a stimulus package stated above! What better way to help companies get back on their feet (we can retire their debts) give us the money!
Posted by: chuck | October 6, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I will probably be worse tomorrow when I come to work and the doors are locked.
I just lost my retirement. I am 50. I do not want to live on the streets, I worked so hard my whole life.
Thank you Bush… thank you McCain.
I know you guys will be just fine the next 20 years. You have Billions of our money to keep you fed and warm.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
We live well within our means….we own a house way below what we can afford. We have NO credit card debt. Our daughter will graduate from college this year debt free. We only buy what we can pay for in cash. We drive older cars. And, we sock away as much as possible for our retirement. How much lower can we go???? What else does this economy expect? I thought we had done
all of the “right” things to insure a secure future but I see it all going down the toilet….
Posted by: yvonneh120952 | October 6, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Chuck.. I was told this will not work because the cost of everything would have to increase to keep balance. So you will see your milk cost go from $5 a gallon to $250 a gallon.
Crazy world!!!
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
700 billon dollars, just to start mind you. More will be transferred at Bernanke’s discretion. Probably to his buddy Paulson. And yet they STILL decided to tank the market and implode the economy to make even MORE money. Think the government looks out for YOU, look around! See those tent cites, foreclosed houses, unemployed neighbors, and increase in prices while your hours get cut and your pay goes down. Then ask yourself, how the men who sat and allowed this to facilitate itself (Namely Obama, McCain, Hilliary, Biden, et. al) are supposed to be expected to acknowledge their own complicity while sacrificing their bankrollers who make it possible for them to enjoy thier life of luxury. If you buy into that then your are surely deluded enough to cast a vote (That may or may not even be counted anyway) for Obama or McCain. It’s time to stop cooperating with this system that is created to destroy us. We either have to run and take over positions of power. Or take the necessary steps to abolish it. Anything else is a recipe for our own destruction.
Posted by: hmn | October 6, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
You don’t lose unless you sell. Just like your home. Would you sell it now when values are down?
Hang in there. I am staying fully invested as through other rough times. Been invested since 1959. Still working so I don’t need the retirement money. May sell when the value goes back up.
Posted by: egret77 | October 6, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Hmmm… lets see… I’ve lost over $300,000 dollars since the market started falling off. Now’s the time to buy though! DOW is below 10,000!
Posted by: Chad | October 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
golly gee, I hope ABC, Charlie Gibson, Diane Sawyer all lost a bundle. Then, when their buddy, Obama, whom they are hell bent on putting in the white house gets in, I hope he redistributes all their wealth to me.
Posted by: on diability | October 6, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Beck:
If you could pay off your house and save on average $1500-$2500 per month it would be worth it! It is time for us tell our government We the People can bail these companies out, give us the money and let us do what is best! I can smell another bailout coming, this is just the start!
Posted by: chuck | October 6, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Not good! At 61 I’ll have to work untill I am 70 now to give time for the 401K to comeback. I know the trends, but if you look over the last 10-15 years I do not think I gained a thing.
We are all being taken for a ride. I think with the 401ks there are to much money chasing to few stocks, making them over valued to begin with. Supply and demand doesn’t work in the case of stocks. Stocks are supposed to valued based on Company assests and performance, not so today, just money comming into the system, into index funds, without any research, or reason for the purchase.
Posted by: Thinking | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
you can’t sell your house because Obama is going to raise the capitol gians tax to 30%.
Posted by: george | October 6, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
the market is reacting to an obama presidency.
Posted by: bob | October 6, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
hmmm: You started off good but in the middle you got confused.. I do believe you meant to say BUSH, MCCAIN, CHANEY, AND ALL THE OTHER REPUBLICANS.
FACTS:
Unfortunately, any lessons McCain learned from the Keating scandal didn’t affect his unbridled enthusiasm for deregulating the finance industry. “He continues to follow policies that create the same kind of environment we see today, with recurrent financial crises and epidemics of fraud led by CEOs,” says Black, the former S&L regulator. Indeed, if the current financial crisis has a villain, it is Phil Gramm, who remains close to McCain. As chair of the Senate Banking Committee in the late 1990s, Gramm ushered in — with McCain’s fervent support — a massive wave of deregulation for insurance companies and brokerage houses and banks, the aftershocks of which are just now being felt in Wall Street’s catastrophic collapse. McCain, who has admitted that “the issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” relies on Gramm to guide him.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Chuck: I am with you. I will take my chances. We need this money, we the people need the help.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
An Obama presidency with his spending programs will absolutely destroy this economy. Look at the states that are bankrupt. California and Massachusetts. he wants to give Health Care and College to 6 million illegal immigrants. He wants to increase the capitol gains tax. Business and Jobs will tank.
Posted by: allen | October 6, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Goldman Sachs exec takes over bailout?
….no tax for that golden parachute!
Posted by: LittleMissMooseShooter | October 6, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Beck:
If every “Taxpayer” wrote their congressman/woman and put pressure on them it can be done! It is about time the American people put their foot down and say enough is enough! Could we operate month after month with a 2-3 Million $$ lose like 1/2 these companies and than get bailed out? Can we pick up the phone at the end of the month if we are 5K short? We need to get the American people to say “STOP” If they government wants to continue down this road we have to say “NO”
Posted by: chuck | October 6, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
this is the market created by Bush/McCain
thanks but no thanks.
Posted by: Gus | October 6, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
It was the democrats in congress who were responsible for the failure of fannie may and freddie mack. They opposed any effort to stop the sub prime crisis. Obama did nothing to stop it. He has taken more money from freedie and fannie than any other senator except Dodd. He has former Ceo’s of Freddie and Fannie as economic advisors. His chief economic advisor , Penny Prtizker 2.3 billion dollar bank failed due to sub prime lending and irregular accounting practices.
Posted by: matt | October 6, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
christa – the media made Ron Paul out to look like a crazy old man because they selected their candiate – obama – and they don’t want anything to interfere with putting him in the white house. Ron Paul will be proven right.
Posted by: dean | October 6, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
matt: Stop with the half truths.. It all started with a Republican president and Republican congress for 4 years. Let’s do put the blame down.
Posted by: beck | October 6, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
This is the market created by
the democrats – the same democrats
that ran Fannie and Freddie -
the same democrats that are running
ACORN – the same democrats that refused
to pass regulations on their pals
at Fannie and Freddie when trouble
began in paradise.
This is the market
that when the bums’ actions came to
light, it was too late for the little
guy.
Those poor people lost their houses – and it was the fault of these democrats who ran these companies.
But it was just in time for those
democrats to get theirs – the golden
goose parachutes $$$$$.
The FBI is indeed looking into all of
this. I hope the democrats get stewed
in their own juice.
Posted by: ll/04/08 | October 6, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Dean: As you are well aware, Ron Paul is a Republican. He lost in the primaries because the media wanted their candidate, McCain (not Obama). If you need a refresher on what McCain thought of Ron Paul – watch the Republican debates again. In my opinion, McCain (and the other candidates) were disrespectful and dismissive of Ron Paul.
Posted by: MIguy | October 6, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
cissy55,
The FDIC reserve is not ‘being used up fast.’
Posted by: 1percenter | October 6, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
1percenter: lets see what happens!
Posted by: cissy55 | October 6, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
I think I just read “expect many more banks to fail”… thats what the FDIC takes care of. Sounds like it is being used to me. Or do we just go and pick the money off the money tree in the back yard to fund the FDIC?
Posted by: cissy55 | October 6, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Beck-
You need a history lesson. There’s plenty of blame to go around, including the Democrats who, during the Clinton years, put pressure on lenders to loan mortgages to low-income people who could not afford to pay the loans back.
Posted by: KJ | October 6, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Ok, neither candidates are wonderful. Both can’t tell the truth. I non of the above and let’s start over. :) The bail out was to save the market and keep lending open. I moved my money to gold several months ago as I could see it coming… Never thought it would get this bad but none the less, it was coming. It took more than Bush to get us here. It took those that let people barrow beyond their means and the people who went and got the loans. It took Crooked CEO’s that paid themselves while letting the company go down. It took overspending our tax dollars and that was done by ALL of them in washington.
Posted by: Lisa | October 6, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
It was in the Clinton admin in which the loan companies were “encouraged” to give home loans to people who couldn’t afford them. Loans were easier to get. People started living well outside their means. When Bush became pres, was he supposed to take that away and become a heartless leader? Get real democrats- it is because of the Clinton admin that things started tumbling downward. “role model” of a president- Clinton.
Posted by: Renee | October 7, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am