Nov 12, 2008 3:29am

The Note: Obama Gambles on Bailout Bill

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports in Wednesday’s Note:

Whatever the outcome of the clash between the Bush administration and the Democratic Congress over a bailout package for Detroit, know that President-elect Barack Obama placed himself at this table — and promptly tossed some valuable chips into the pot.

He had an easy way out: the one-president-at-a-time line. He’s just a senator until Jan. 20. He didn’t have to turn his Oval Office session with President Bush into a lobbying powwow. And with just the two of them in the room, he certainly (as the Bush team reminded him with a high hard one tossed via Drudge) didn’t have to turn private talks into a public spat.

With House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Harry Reid pushing a measure to help automakers during the lame-duck session, they have a partner in ownership: Obama.

It’s a quiet kind of power play by a president-elect who’s seeking a delicate balance: Obama, insisting that the economy needs more help now, is showing action, not just talking about it.

If it works, Obama would notch a legislative victory even before he’s president — in a quick payoff for his union backers, and (just maybe) for a troubled industry and the economy as a whole.

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But if it fails to pass, or if it passes and then fails to work, or even if it works but fails to impress, the president-elect owns an issue that helped get him here a bit earlier — and more completely — than he did before.

“Democratic leaders in Congress said Tuesday they will push legislation next week to use the $700 billion Wall Street rescue fund to bail out Detroit auto makers, and President-elect Barack Obama ordered his transition team to look at ways to aid the car industry even before his inauguration,” The Wall Street Journal’s Jonathan Weisman, Greg Hitt and John D. McKinnon report.

“For Mr. Obama, the crisis in Detroit is turning into an early test of his leadership. Organized labor, including the United Auto Workers, invested heavily in Mr. Obama’s campaign,” they continue. “It’s a situation Mr. Obama’s team had hoped to avoid, potentially giving the president-elect responsibility for an emergency before he has any real authority to deal with it. . . . For Mr. Obama, a public intervention on behalf of Detroit puts his political capital at stake on behalf of companies that have lost the confidence of investors and many consumers — reflected in the reluctance of banks to lend to the companies and their continuing loss of market share.”

“A senior Democratic official . . . said Ms. Pelosi had decided to challenge Mr. Bush to work with the Democrats or veto aid to the teetering auto companies — and take the blame if one of them fails,” David M. Herszenhorn and Carl Hulse write in The New York Times. “The White House has resisted calls by Congress to use the $700 billion to help the automakers, saying that money is better spent easing the credit crunch at the heart of the economic crisis.”

Key detail: “Congressional aides said Democratic leaders were coordinating their activities with [Obama’s] transition team,” Herszenhorn and Hulse report.

What of his role? “Mr. Obama does not intend to play a leading role in the [lame-duck] session. Aides said he was focused on the economic packages he would offer as president, as well as working behind the scenes with Congressional Democratic leaders,” Herszenhorn and Hulse report. “But aides have not definitively ruled out the prospect of Mr. Obama casting his vote if it was needed. His Senate replacement will not be named by then.”

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ABC News’ Hope Ditto contributed to this report.

User Comments

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Posted by: ILOGHALU | November 12, 2008, 3:41 am 3:41 am

Mr Obama along with the entire Democratic Party, Has been Raping and Pillaging the American people and the Country for a few years now. This year at an all time high.
The bail outs are wrong.
Many companies and Industries have failed or bankrupted over the years. No one lifted a finger to assist, aide or bail them out.
Bail outs are only extending Mismanagement and poor buiness Practices and Lining someone ones Pockets with The Countries and peoples money.
The Government having their fingers in or a vested interest in any Company or buisness is Wrong, and against anti trust lawa.
It makes it to easy for these Buisness’s and Industries to be assumed by the Government, Causing Something that shoule never be in America.
The Only ones to benifit from these bail outs are the Democrats in office, coming into office. and the peoples pockets they are lining.
If The Democrats care about America, The American People then how could they do this to them.
They always say they are for the people, and do the absolute opposite. then Throw the people crumbs to appease them.
I know I was better off three years ago, before the Democrats started their Doom and gloom Campaign and playing with the economy.
From one Bitter Democrat to the Democratic Leadership. Stop Exploiting and abusing the people.

Posted by: seah | November 12, 2008, 3:55 am 3:55 am

Iloghalu, give it a rest. We have bigger fish to fry.
As for the bailout of the Big 3 … what a crock. If they had remained competitive and put out a decent product maybe they wouldn’t be in this boat. The arrogance, not only of the companies, but of the UAW, is breathtaking.

Posted by: JDD | November 12, 2008, 4:00 am 4:00 am

If O were concerned about our economy, he would be acting NOW, he would quit playing games and attend the economic summit to which he was invited and used the same excuse…one president at a time! BS! Quit playing political games!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: samhiguchi | November 12, 2008, 4:07 am 4:07 am

Whack Obama – he isn’t even in office yet. Put the blame where it belongs.
In case you aren’t aware the Republicans have been in office the last eight years. So who’s been exploiting and abusing the people.
How do you figure it was the Democrats who did the bailouts, Republicans voted for it also, including MCCAIN – a republican.
Look at the facts before placing blame. Obviously, you don’t who’s in office or who the president has been the last eight years.

Posted by: smt | November 12, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

Whack Obama – he isn’t even in office yet. Put the blame where it belongs.
In case you aren’t aware the Republicans have been in office the last eight years. So who’s been exploiting and abusing the people.
How do you figure it was the Democrats who did the bailouts, Republicans voted for it also, including MCCAIN – a republican.
Look at the facts before placing blame. Obviously, you don’t who’s in office or who the president has been the last eight years.

Posted by: smt | November 12, 2008, 4:18 am 4:18 am

‘Green’ Autos, anyone?

Posted by: Deep Release | November 12, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

smt – Ummmmm first of all the democrats have been in control of congress the past 2 1/2 years, whoa and didn’t they sure do a hell of a job! Can’t wait to see what happens when they control all three branches! not! (but I don’t suppose you have ever heard of checks and balances)
This recession was caused by sub prime mortgage lending, all the democrats idea of spreading the wealth. Bush was calling for regulation (I’m not sure if you are aware of this but that is the complete opposite of handing mortgages out to any idiot that wants to buy a house, thus not causing it).
Wow. That’s all I have to say.

Posted by: here it goes | November 12, 2008, 4:36 am 4:36 am

The only “Change” is what will be coming out of YOUR pockets… Let the “bailouts for billionaires” resume. Pathetic.

Posted by: hmn | November 12, 2008, 4:37 am 4:37 am

Nancy Pelosi needs to step down. Obama wants to raise higher taxes on people making $250,000 or more. That’s BS. He doesn’t need to raise taxes at all. Why should we pay for the bail outs of companies that can’t keep their own records straight. Lehman Bros. Auto Industry and AIG. If the government can bail them out then they have billions of dollars to spend. They don’t need our money. And Obama isn’t fooling me. The tax increase will hit everyone not just people making $250,000. Who is he kidding. How about all the senators taking a 15% decrease in their salary. They sit on their butt doing nothing all day long getting big salaries. With the economy being so bad this is not the time to take people’s money.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | November 12, 2008, 5:04 am 5:04 am

Let the US automakers declare bankruptcy–so they can re-negotiate their outrageously generous union contracts and retirement packages.
Unless that happens, they can never be competitive against foreign automakers. Taxpayers will keep having to them out in the future–even though Carl Levin and John Conyers would love that.

Posted by: Rust Belt | November 12, 2008, 5:05 am 5:05 am

hmm, evidently my comment got deleted.
:(
E-mail your Congressmen to vote “NO” on Car Bailout!

Posted by: ajax | November 12, 2008, 5:06 am 5:06 am

“How about all the senators taking a 15% decrease in their salary. They sit on their butt doing nothing all day long getting big salaries. With the economy being so bad this is not the time to take people’s money.”
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I love it!!…Best Idea on this site in MONTHS!!! cut the $$ in their pocket!!…BOTH PARTIES!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am

seah: You said a mouthful. But the public went overboard to vote Obama in office. They don’t know what’s coming to them yet but they will get a taste of it shortly. Before he became the nominee and listening to his speeches on the platform told me he would dictate to what he wants and don’t want. I believe I am right because Rep. Broun stated the same thing on the internet. Obama is dictating to the lobbyists already. And there is more to come. I didn’t vote for him and have no regrets about it even if McCain lost. The reason that Obama wants many of Clinton’s people is because he needs good training for the presidency. And they know more than he hasn’t learned yet. The majority of the young people think that he is so brilliant but they are going to get fooled. He will become a ruler instead of a president.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | November 12, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am

smt – Dems have been running Congress fro the last 2 years (and shutting down all Republican effort s at regulation in the year prior) They are SQUARELY to blame for the current crisis – their socialist policies towards the lending industry (forcing banks to make loans – at a losing interest rate – to risky (read unable to repay) targets. They forced the govt to support FannieMae, even when failure was leaking. They covered up for Raines et al and – when he was busted for cooking the books – they STILL demanded that our money go rescue FM!! Bailouts DON’T WORK!!! In addition, Dems want NO ACCOUNTABILITY for the bailout results. AIG blew their bailout on spas, luxury goods for the execs and NOW want more!! Call your congressman and tell them: NO MORE BAILOUTS!! btw, if the auto workers hadn’t just blown billions of dollars paying their workers to strike, they may not have been in this “LookingForAHandout” position

Posted by: gael | November 12, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am

In case you aren’t aware the Republicans have been in office the last eight years. So who’s been exploiting and abusing the people.
How do you figure it was the Democrats who did the bailouts, Republicans voted for it also, including MCCAIN – a republican.
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Let’s see “how do you figure” ????
I know this gets hard for you liberals, but in these cases, we use MATH.
Very Simple MATH!!!
The Total Congressional (House + Senate) vote on the package
Dem. 211 – 72 75% FOR
Rep. 125 – 123 50% FOR
Now, that is HOW you figure it out.
By the Way, OBAMA also voted for it!
From time to time, why dont you look up at least one or two facts before spewing the same old rhetoric.

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 5:16 am 5:16 am

Gael,
I agree, no oversight and we already handing this money out. No bailouts for anyone until some kind of oversight is established.
Pelosi & Reid are already off and running with that bag of money and telling us “Trust Us – We know better than you how to hand it out”
By the time these idiots get around to looking at the oversight issue, the 700 Billion will be long gone!
Oh, you have to love this, that woman is slapping all of America in the face by asking Barney Frank to draft legislation for this!! Barney “Oh its not my fault I said Freddie/Fannie would be fine” Frank!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

Mike_C: Your right. Both parties. Good thought. I’m with you all the way.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | November 12, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

$700 billion Wall Street rescue fund to bail out Detroit auto makers
Bailing the above people out has
become a American pastime…
The are going down and not coming back…
This Resection / Depression is going
to last a long long time…..
and we are dragging the world with us.

Posted by: Anita Yova | November 12, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am

Well Maybe if we had a President for the last 8 years Be a President and care what was going on in our Country and stop trying to Dictate other Countries and stop DEREGULATING EVERYTHING And payed more attention instead of being an INACTIVE PRESIDENT We Might not be in these messes THANKS ALOT BUSH THANKS FOR NOTHING!

Posted by: Angie | November 12, 2008, 5:31 am 5:31 am

Why don’t we just call this what it is – “A Bailout of Labor Unions”! The Unions have controlled the U.S. Auto Industry for too long and outworn their usefulness. We still have the best Designers, Engineers, and Production Workers in the World, but something has to give and it should not be We The People of the United States. Put the “bailout” money into the hands of the American consumer and watch the economy recover. $428,000 to each Citizen over the age of 17 will move the economy like we have never seen it move and it will cost less than the AIG bailout!

Posted by: Jerry | November 12, 2008, 5:35 am 5:35 am

The 110th Congress was sworn in Jan, 2007, so that would be 1 year 10 months, not “2-1/2″ years.
The crisis was cooked in the books with the policies of the GOP policies long before, and the presiding president has had his way on tax cuts and deregulation for the past eight years…now it’s the dems fault?
The Great Depression, for a large part, was due to non-regulation of the banking industry, and the highly leveraged climate of Wall Street.
The current recession was fueled by lenders eager to turn mortgages regardless of ability for the borrowers to pay long term (such as ARMs that once balloned had only one outcome). And no one was watching (deregulation)
These mortgages were then flipped to other institutions who then carved them up and sold them as mortgage backed securities. Once the defaults started hitting, these became next to worthless, and trillions of dollars evaporated.
A lot of blame to go around, but to say that was caused by the dems in congress for less than two years is laughable.

Posted by: Brian | November 12, 2008, 5:55 am 5:55 am

Shame on you who doubted our Greatest Leader’s integrity and honor.
Don’t worry about the small details that he earmarked $1 mil to the employer who raised his wife’s salary by 150%, and he was heartfelt and honored by the endorsement from the war criminal who sold the war to the world, the very war based on which he got where is is.

Posted by: Follower of Dearest Greatest Leader | November 12, 2008, 6:01 am 6:01 am

it’s payback time, folks.

Posted by: Follower of Dearest Greatest Leader | November 12, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am

OFFF,
Thanks for providing a litle historical background for those who only see these issues through partisan eyes!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

A lot of blame to go around, but to say that was caused by the dems in congress for less than two years is laughable.
Brian,
The point is that since jan 2007, they have controlled the agenda that goes on in congress. They have not in al that time put forth a bill that would have limited sub-prime lending and restored reasonable limitations on what any one borrower would be allowed to qualify for.
Barney Frank was the point-man for the dems on pressuring for these kinds of unsafe lending practices.
Certainly over the years as OFFF has shown, BOTH parties have chunks of the “blame pie”. But to sit there now and claim its all GWB fault is total BS!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 6:42 am 6:42 am

Wow. Lots of sore losers here today. LOL

Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 12, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

“Wow. Lots of sore losers here today. LOL”
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LOL….you can call us that if you wish, but soon you & all sore winners wil be joining us.
Now there are no more scripted rallies to attend or flowery speeches to deliver, Obama is about to find out its MUCH MUCH harder to actually produce results thanit is to promise and blame!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 12, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Everyone join together stop the bailouts!!!!!

Posted by: me | November 12, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am

The way a lot of us see it is that it’s not just the Republicans who are ‘losers’ but all Americans-well, except for Ayers, Wright, the Black Panthers, Sharpton, Dohrn, Jackson, Oprah, Walters, Matthews, Olbermann,,,OK I guess there are a lot of folks up there with a thrill going up their legs right now.
You’re right. When Obama is sworn in, he’ll wave that Clinton magic economic wand and fix everything.
Or, you can get a clue and follow the money and it goes right back to the Socialist operations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with the Social Democrats sitting right on top of it. And the lazy-butt Republicans who have done nothing about the GSEs,,,there again, if they did, they’d be accused of being racists and not wanting poor folks to have homes, so I guess that was a no win proposition from the get-go.
McCain was right, I believe from what I’ve been able to figure out-swallow the bitter pill and buy up the bad mortgages to unfreeze the credit.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 12, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

BAILOUTS ARE COMPLEX BEASTS
Here is a workable plan with common sense for the U.S. Auto Industry -
Do not leave it to Paulson or Congress to come up with a creative plan or consider taxpayers’ interests.
There is much creative talent hidden inside the U.S. Big 3 that has been smothered by mismanagement and the UAW.

Posted by: PacificGatePost | November 12, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I’m a union member myself, but am well aware of the pitfalls of that noble endeavor. These union leaders tend to be political and corrupt and routinely get their workers more money and benefits—considering decades of union elections, that adds up to a heck of a lot.
Those things, however, does the worker no good if the company folds.

Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 12, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

BailOut!!!!
What really needs to be done
1. Buy up sub-prime mortgages…NOT at the companies cost or FMV but at a significant discount.
2. Reduce the homeowners mortgage by that discount and redue the mortgage terms this will keep people in their homes.
3. Tell the Big three to file Chapter 11 and tell the Unions that they will no longer pay the benefits.
4. Place regulation on all companies participating in the mortgage buy-back program from above.
5. In the future sell the mortgages for more than what was paid…Profit anyone!!!
6. For anyone who voted for Obama How can you increase spending, decrease taxes not possible. It’s when he will break his promises not if.

Posted by: James Lewis | November 12, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

For those of you who saying let the American auto industry go under are showing just what kind of moron’s you are. If this industry goes under there won’t be any recovery in America’s economy. What a bunch of macaroon’s.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 12, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

Whatever the people in Washington are doing – giving out bogus loans or not regulating the industry or now proposing wild patches – they have certainly fixed the stock market – down $1,000 in 5 days.
I guess this is the flood of money leaving the US. Kind of like the manufacturing jobs the Clinton administration exported in all of their trade deals. Really glad the dems got into control in 2006 and were able to do things in so quickly – nice going.

Posted by: etothex | November 12, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Bailed out Chrysler years ago what is good for the goose is good for all the ganders, do for one do for all or don’t do for anything or anyone. Sorry people out there if you don’t like it. It is just the way everyone feels. What is good for one is good for all.

Posted by: Rose Szymanski | November 13, 2008, 5:01 am 5:01 am

Rose, Chrysler got a loan and paid it back.
Now we are willing to give money to the big 3 and get nothing in return.
No bailout for the Union, who got the big 3 into the mess with inept mgt. Let the Union bail out the big 3 they have enough money, or did they spend it all on parties and retreats. The car companies in the south are doing fine and there is no union envolved. Look at Saturn.

Posted by: usa | November 13, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

If the purpose for bailing out the auto industry is to save jobs, then the government should only bail out the ones who didn’t outsource their labor to other countries. GM is one of those company that didn’t care about the jobs of those american citizens they laid off in order to out source to countries like mexico for a $1.50 an hour for labor, but GM what those same U.S taxpayers and others to bail them out. Now that is wrong on GM’s part.

Posted by: Robert Boyd | November 13, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

If GM, Ford, and Chrysler collapse America will go into a flat spin that it will never recover from.
The stock market will tank to the 5000 range because of the domino effect.
Even if this doesn’t threaten your job now your 401K will lose another 20 to 30% of it’s value.

Posted by: Hippie Smasher | November 13, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Hey I got it!!! our country is in a financial freefall….LETS SPEND A FEW TRILLION!!!!

Posted by: Obama | November 13, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am

in a quick payoff for his union backers
sheeeez…. this is change????

Posted by: pat | November 13, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Hippie Smasher,
the country is already in a freefall,
and the Dem. won’t stop here it will go on and on until we are all poor and a socalled third world country.

Posted by: usa | November 13, 2008, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Just the fact that Obama believes he is qualified to handle what’s coming shows how poor his judgement is.
Here is the first hint of the coming train wreck…he’s not even in office yet and he is being pushed into another theft (er, bailout) by the unions who helped destroy the very industry now being handed cash. Next move is this whole involuntary membership in those unions.

Posted by: Chris | November 13, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Just the fact that Obama believes he is qualified to handle what’s coming shows how poor his judgement is.
Here is the first hint of the coming train wreck…he’s not even in office yet and he is being pushed into another theft (er, bailout) by the unions who helped destroy the very industry now being handed cash. Next move is this whole involuntary membership in those unions.
And to you ILOGHALU, you really need to back off the ridiculous rhetoric. Sarah Palin a terrorist? You are forgetting who Obama’s friends are, aren’t you. The hate that gets spewed toward her illustrates your unbelievable hypocrisy.
Posted by: Chris | Nov 13, 2008 6:41:58 PM
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And Bush has a MBA but the economy in the toilet. So what does that tell you about Bush are 8 years in office?

Posted by: McCain/Palin = Corporations First | November 13, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

BAIL OUT! WOW! Why don’t we just keep printing money and close all banks. It’s amazing how many people just don’t understand basic principles. Do you go into a restaurant and order a meal knowing you don’t have money to pay for it? Its the fear factor that stimulates people into believing in bailouts and the lets not forget, the rich people don’t want to lose on their investments. Don’t feel sorry for folks who buy big houses and cars that they can’t really afford so they can look like their neighbor’s. Basic rules for life. Live within your means and quit listening and believing in the rich who preach about how they are going to help the poor. They are helping their pockets first.

Posted by: CHARLIE | November 14, 2008, 8:38 am 8:38 am

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