Dec 29, 2008 7:58pm

Bristol Palin Gives Birth to Baby Boy

Bristol Palin, the 18-year-old daughter of former GOP vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, gave birth to a 7-pound, 4-ounce boy, Saturday morning, sources tell ABC News. Bristol and her fiance Levi Johnston welcomed their son Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston into the world in Palmer, Alaska. Keith Johnston, Levi’s father, confirmed the news to ABC News’ Josh Gaynor. He said Tripp was born Saturday and left the hospital Sunday. The new grandfather says he hasn’t seen Tripp yet, since he is out working in the oil fields. Colleen Jones, the sister of Bristol’s grandmother, Sally Heath, said in an interview with People magazine that the baby is healthy. "The baby is fine and Bristol is doing well. Everyone is excited," Jones said. Levi Johnston, a former Wasilla High School hockey player, dropped out of high school to take a job as an apprentice electrician on Alaska’s North slope. Bristol Palin is completing her high school diploma through correspondence courses, People says. The couple has been dating for three years, and Johnston told the Associated Press in October that they plan to marry in 2009. The teenage couple has been in the spotlight since Sarah Palin announced Bristol’s pregnancy in September, just three days after joining the Republican ticket.

User Comments

Seriously, is this “breaking news”????

Posted by: TT | December 29, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

Well I wish Palins Grandson all the best…and hope her daughter and the baby’s daddy have a job to support the child they created.

Posted by: chattyway | December 29, 2008, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

My Gosh! Since when does an illegitamate birth of a baby born to an unmarried girl who just happens to be the daughter of a Bimbo Republican governor qaulify as “Breaking News!!???

Posted by: proscene | December 29, 2008, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Great family values! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: Jeebus | December 29, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Is this news? Well, if it was Obama’s daughter having a baby out of wedlock, it sure would be, and the same people supporting Palin’s “family values” would be condemning instead.

Posted by: Tim | December 29, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

h o h o h o–party of values

Posted by: pax | December 29, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

Lovely to see nothing is beyond politicization or party contempt I’m guessing in 30 years or so, Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston will still be thankful he got a chance to live…and I’d say the same for any grandchild of Obama’s…no matter the circumstances.
Welcome to Planet Earth, Tripp…lot’s of winners out here to hang out with.

Posted by: Juan Cockstostan | December 29, 2008, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

My best wishes to that baby. He’s going to need all the help he can get, with unmarried teenage parents who have not graduated from high school. I still don’t understand why Republicans can’t teach their children about sex and pregnancy in such a way so that kids actually learn how to prevent teenage pregnancy, not to mention sexually transmitted diseases.

Posted by: dejune5678 | December 29, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Bristol does indeed have higher family values than those who abort their babies.

Posted by: Wayne-O | December 29, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Congrats to the young couple…Tripp is a nice name.
Not everything has to be critized or politized. A new child was born healthy, that is enough to be happy for.

Posted by: Old Woman | December 29, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

I’m not sure why this is breaking news, but I wish the family the best, a new life is always a wonderful thing and God don’t place any being on this earth that he does not already have a path for. God Bless them all. From a Liberal who believes in the Power of Life and Love.

Posted by: Kim | December 29, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

“More souls go to hell because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason.”
- The most holy, most pure, most blessed and glorious Lady, the Mother of God and ever virgin Mary to Blessed Jacinta of Fatima

Posted by: Ken | December 29, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Bristol needs to stop naming her children trashy names! Trig and now Tripp. Sarah I do hope at least one of your children complete highschool. Stop using them as props!

Posted by: Tom | December 29, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

proscene, people like you make a bad name for all Americans, why does Govenor Palin have to be a bimbo, because she is a beautiful Married woman with the guts to go out and make a difference for others? whether it is 1 or 600,000 she is not on this earth taking up oxygen she is making life better for others. Is this what we teach our children? to name call and be hateful and envious of others? No wonder these little girls in school are so nasty and mean spririted because of people like you and parents that think like you. Good Luck to the Family.

Posted by: Karen | December 29, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Okay,Now is it really necessary for that young man to drop out of school to be a for real stupid dad!!! Could he have done that and still stayed in school? At least with a high school education he stood a little bit better chance at life in case he wanted to better his life later.Duh???? Do you think that really smart Sarah talked him into quitting? We all know how smart she can be at times….Duh!!!!

Posted by: Bobbie | December 29, 2008, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

I am actually surprised the baby didn’t suffer some type of alcohol poisoning given the reports of the mother’s heavy boozing. It is good to hear the child is OK (but sounds like he got lucky).

Posted by: Surprised | December 29, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

Congratulations to the Palin & Johnson families..
Levi is working as an Electrician Apprentice to obtain a Family Supporting occupation so that he can take care of his family.
Bristol continues to study for her GED.
You can bet this is child born to young adults ( he is 19 and she is 18)that will not be supported by our tax dollars and he will be a father to his child.

Posted by: s. morgan | December 29, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm

Why is this travesty “breaking news”?

Posted by: Kennedy | December 29, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Glad to see most of the comments are supportive for a couple that really have nothing to do with politics – and have a lot on their plate right now. I wish them all the best. As for calling Palin a ‘bimbo’ governor – Proscene – when they were passing out class, you must’ve been absent that day.

Posted by: bill | December 29, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Ken–wow

Posted by: pax | December 29, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm

Of course it is news. Governor Palin has been in the spotlight, and as a result of that so has her family. If the press had spent half the time trying to find out if Obama was actually born in the U.S., making him eligible to run for the presidency, as they spent trying to smear Governor Palin’s reputation, the election may very well have had different results.

Posted by: Ameraucana | December 29, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

For Karen . . . . Now don’t get your holier than thou family values, Republican feathers all up in an uproar! Odds are the happy couple will never marry anyway and Sarah’s shining star will all but be forgotten by 2012 as well.

Posted by: proscene | December 29, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm

YEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAWWW!!!!!

Posted by: Eric | December 29, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

I am glad that they had a nice healthy baby boy. But why do we keep making big news and celebrating babies born out of wedlock. This is nothing to make headlines about. So much for abstinence training

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

Amercuana . Obama could have been born in a swamp in Ecuador and I would have preferred him as president then hypocrticial Sarah Palin ( who also opened her legs before marriage and was knocked up when she married

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

Congratulations! With that said, this child needs to stop having children and she does need to go back to school – 2 is enough at her age. Palin is a bimbo period.

Posted by: Sarah | December 29, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Bristol Palin: The poster child for “abstinence only education” doesn’t work.

Posted by: texasgirl | December 29, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Wayne O Bristol Palin is a trollop who likes to drink heavy and have alot of sex . She is no role model.

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

Who cares! When is the wedding now that will be news to hear. I wonder if he is willing the raise the 1st child as his too?

Posted by: Dude | December 29, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

I like how the liberals say about the women who wants to be a man has a kid and any negative comments about them they say “hey mind your own business blah blah blah” even though they go on tv, grant interviews left and right and all of that. But a couple people who got famous because of her mom and not because of something she has done who hasn’t granted a national interview (that i’ve seen) the same liberals are saying that these people are losers, who have trashy family values…shouldn’t you start to mind your own business if you’re going to preach to others about how they should mind their own business about two females that can’t even have kids naturally who give interviews to anyone that is willing to listen

Posted by: dan | December 29, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

*yawn*

Posted by: Jaylah | December 29, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm

Let the savages take their pound of flesh. Pastor Wright was right GD America… The mass of Americans are despicable. How dare they take joy in tearing down a fellow citizen for her mothers career choice. Ahh, don’t ya just LOVE those women’s libbers and demoncrats who are all for everything pro-women, until they dare to venture of the intellecutal gulag of socialist liberalism. How DARE you women even THINK for yourselves, SHUT UP and let the politicans and the special interests groups outsource your thinking for you!!! That’s after all what feminism was/is all about, right? You people are in need of a doctor, and that right Soon!

Posted by: please! | December 29, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Who said this is news worthy?

Posted by: Mic | December 29, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm

At last, a positive Palin family story. I guess, as positive as being an unmarried, high school dropout, who lay seed to a high school dropout, future daughter in law to an indicted drug dealer, daughter of a political reject could get.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

ooo-WE!!!! BabyDoll NEWS!!!
Well… myself, probably now known as one who is somewhat critical of BabyDoll…err Governor Palin, I am sincerely happy that she has a healthy grandchild. May he have a very long and happy life! However, I DO hope the grandparents encourage/advise their young people regarding the importance of obtaining their high school education and beyond. Also, in just having a thirst for knowledge about the world we live in. Although, Hot Momma Jr…err Bristol Palin, is lucky to have a Governor as a parent, she is still going to face many of the trials of being a single parent (I for one don’t believe the wedding will happen–if so, well…some of us know how that works out. I hope I’m wrong.)
I hope this incident will cause the Governor to refect upon her positions on sex education, abortion rights etc. It does not mean she has to change her stance but hopefully she will have a clearer vision about such matters and realize that not all families are in such a fortunate position as she and her daughter. I wish them well!

Posted by: FS | December 29, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

also, to everyone who is saying “abstinence only education isnt working”, so any time a parent who preaches that its alright to have sex and only use condoms and birth control who still get pregnant means that that it doesn’t work as well, as i’ve seen A lot more girls get pregnant with this type of “teaching” than parents that teach abstinence only education. 100% sure chance of not getting pregnant is abstinence.

Posted by: dan | December 29, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

So if the Palins are such a fine, moral family, why didn’t Bristol and Levi get married PRIOR to the birth of this child. What is this trend of having babies out of wedlock and then walking down the aisle in a wedding dress and having a ceremony holding the baby. They had plenty of time to get married, then if they wanted a ceremony with friends and family that would have been more appropriate.
I think the Palins are trash basically.

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Sorry to break your heart Tasha, I have a 24 year old son and gee had my college degree and was MARRIED to his father when I had him. Im not someone living in the “hood” either. And I think its very sad what is happening in some of the inner cities with women having unwed kids with multiple fathers.

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Tasha, There are pictures of Bristol drinking heavily at parties with buddies and she is under age. It was on her facebook. The pictures are everywhere. I think Trig may be her child too but I dont have any evidence of that so I dont say thats her baby. But this girl is a partier who loves to drink. Go google for the pictures. Maybe her mother needed to stay home and see what the heck Bristol was doing

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Gee, now Trig has a little brother. Trig and Tripp…What is it about the letter “T” that Bristol likes so much? Could it be that the entire Palin family is TRASH??

Posted by: Marlene | December 29, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm

Tom – Our President-elect is named “Barack” and you are slamming the name “Tripp”????? (And stop with the insinuation that Trig is also Bristol’s – that is just a ridiculous notion) By the way, “Tripp” is the nickname of one of the main characters in “Dirty, Sexy, Money”.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 29, 2008, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

I have a silly question…
Who is paying for the hospital bills and additional medical care for this child and Bristol Palin?

Posted by: FS | December 29, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

what a stupid name for the baby. by the way, i guess the wedding’s off since sarah didn’t become the vp. these are truly some low-class folks.

Posted by: Liz | December 29, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Dads real smart quits school …..

Posted by: indp voter | December 29, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Wow… aren’t you all a judgemental group? Let’s see a show of hands of those who waited until AFTER they were married to have sex…WOW not very many of you, huh?? Me either….

Posted by: Love2BRight | December 29, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Tripp
Origin: English
Meaning: The English name Tripp means – traveler
Great name if you ask me!

Posted by: S. morgan | December 29, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm

Putin flew over this morning in his jet to congratulate the family.

Posted by: tim | December 29, 2008, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

I don’t think much of Sarah Palin, but I won’t trash her new grandson. I hope this child does well. I hope his young parents manage to finish school and pull themselves together in order to create a good life for their son and any future children they might have, together or apart. It doesn’t matter what political party they happen to belong to; only morons would wish a newborn ill.

Posted by: Eleonora27 | December 29, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Carramea I am with you. What is the hold up there? Are we just insisting on looking fab in the big wedding gown or what here? And Tasha? I just can’t even put my head around your post. First off – not all that live in trailers are trash. You seem angry. Like you take it personally. Since he dropped out of HS at age 19 (um, was he already behind?) I’m going with odds are he might not amount to much. Or so these things tend to go. I can’t believe they didn’t stop him from not graduating. I can rather understand her having a hard time and needing to go the GED route. Not him.

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm

Our President-elect was conceived out of wedlock and his parents soon divorced… SO WHAT?? Don’t be so quick to point your finger – you might find it is pointing back at you.

Posted by: HappyAgain | December 29, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

FS- What business is it of yours WHO is paying the hospital bill??

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 29, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm

Perhaps they are waiting for Levi to finish his apprenticeship.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 29, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

Happy,
Our President-elects parents WERE married by the time he was born. They divorced when he was about age two. Your point being? Hopefully you are not insinuating Lil-Tripp has a presidential pedigree? Puleaze, spare us!!!

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

ells – Palin chose to put herself out there knowing her daughter would get trashed over it. Blame her. In fact it was one of the issues I had with her. The second issue was all of the bashing Sarah herself did. You know – parts of the country are more American, etc. Add in a dose of this comes from the side trying to be “morally superior” and well, it just lends itself to this. And maybe if some of you guys are so worried about mean speak you should have had a bit of an issue with most of the stuff out of Palin’s mouth. Boy was she rough.

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

JD,
His mother gratefully realized he was not getting a top notch education while in Indonesia, and sent him back to live with his grandparents. I’ve been around the world, and have seen American kids trying to get education while in foreign schools….it sets them FAR behind their counterparts back home.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Yeah. . .who cares . . .What we really want to hear about is every little detail of the lights going out on the Obama’s Hawaiian vacation home. Now that was riveting.

Posted by: Spread The Wealth | December 29, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

susan–The fact that liberal woman, the same ones that fought for women’s liberation, immediately bashed Palin was an exercise in hypocrisy. There is no arguing that. An attractive, powerful woman with a strong family is the enemy to fat, hairy, unmarriable women across the US. And their are plenty of them.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

ellsbells930,
Well… given that neither of the young people are gainfully employed, I think its a fair question. Are these bills covered by the parents insurance? Is this a cost that must be borne by the parents–that’s not fun, but what must be done, be done? Do these kids have some sort of trust fund to pay the bills–that’s possible. OR… is this something that taxpayers are burdened with? If its the last option (and given the Governor’s position)I think its worth some ink.

Posted by: FS | December 29, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

congrats on the new baby, I was going to say I can’t beleive the dems would be so nasty towards a new born no matter who’s it is, but that is their mentality, can’t see the forrest from the tree’s, grow the freaken hell up! kids

Posted by: aussieabrat | December 29, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

If they are planning on getting married, what’s the upside to waiting until AFTER the baby is born???

Posted by: JW | December 29, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

bruhman–I’m talking about his REAL father/sperm donor. The KENYAN father of the year for 1963. Atleast get BHO’s lies correct when defending him.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

JD,
I hope you’re not suggesting that a high school dropout, reproducing for a high school dropout, while unmarried, one grandmother recently indicted, the other recently rejected is a STRONG family?!?!?

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

JD I’m going to try this one again. Women want choices. That doesn’t mean we don’t judge some on the choices they make. IF God throws you a curve ball in the form of a special needs child (this requires more than even normal parenting) it’s NOT a great time to take an unreasonablly more time consuming job when you already have a fab career and then some. It’s not like she needed the money. Anybody can spit a child. It’s all about doing what you need to do to raise them. Notice he’s out in the oil fields as this article goes to print. So he’s no stay at home dad. Get it?

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

FS, most likely Sarah Palin has her daughter insured under her ( the girl was under 19 ) and therefore the babys birth would be covered. The interesting part will now be when they turn 19 and there is no insurance. I am sure Babygrandma can help out with this until Levi gets his electrician apprentship.
I am not knocking what I am sure is a lovely newborn baby boy. I am just sick of people celebrating teenage pregnancies and babies born out of wedlock. I dont admire Tom Cruise or Katie Holmes either
These kids should have worked hard and gone to college. They are lucky , Bristol has a mother who makes some money and the Palins own a fishing boat. So many other young couples are not so lucky.
I would have liked to see these kids get married PRIOR to the baby being born. That would have set a moral example

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

So much hate and judgement from BOTH sides of the fence. This story has hit every major media outlet and EACH and EVERY one has lunatics just like each of you giving their hate-filled opinions… WOW!!

Posted by: ARGO | December 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Welcome Aboard Tripp.

Posted by: Omentum | December 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Susan- You just proved my point. That attitude is one that mature people left in middle school. “She said things I don’t like, so I’m going to say bad things about her daughter”. It’s one thing to bash Sarah if you don’t agree with her, but it is immature & stupid to bash her daughter. That girl has done nothing to deserve this.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

What about his REAL father? You asked why he was raised by his grandparents. HIs mother was remarried, living in Indonesia when he went back to Hawaii. His “sperm donor” father, as you call him, was a drunk living back in Kenya. Ohhhhh, such a hard choice for his mother….send my son to Hawaii where I know he’ll be raised correctly or to Kenya, where he’s never been, to his father who hasn’t seen him in five years? I think she made the right choice…look where it lead him.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

carramea–You must be one of the aforementioned liberal women. First off, a BHO groupie “waiting for Bush to leave office” is not worth typing. Secondly, there is no need to inform all of your income level. You can tell plenty by the way posters type and phrase their sentences.
Did I mention I’m Superman and Batman. Just because you type it, doesn’t mean it’s true.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

JD I am married sorry to ruin your theory ( oh yea I got hair on my head) I dont like Sarah Palin for most of what she stands for. I didnt think she was very bright and she incited hate where ever she went. I do admire many women in politics and have voted for women. Just because you can not tolerate one candidate doesnt mean you hate women. I dont think shes that attractive anyhow. Shes got a jaw like a lantern

Posted by: Carramea | December 29, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

I am suprised that ABC – ALL BARACK CHANNEL – would waste their time on a blessed event – I thought they were supporting abortion…. Oh no I’m mistaken, they are only interested in making Sarah Palin transparent and open to the American public…Now whose line was that ? Sound familiar ? Maybe we can find out how many corrupt Chicago thugs she has hung out with, ya think ?

Posted by: lotzahair | December 29, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

LOL! And the name is “Tripp.” Am I the only one thinking drugs, as in bad trip? I doubt it.

Posted by: Scorpredhead | December 29, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

fs – do YOU live in Alaska? If not, then it’s none of your business.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 29, 2008, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm

JD,
Great enough to earn his way into Occidental College, Columbia University, Harvard Law and become President of the United States…I agree, great gene pool.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

With Lil-Tripp’s pedigree, he’ll be lucky to finish eighth grade!!!

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

ells considering I didn’t REALLY trash her child I don’t think I quite fall into that category. Unless you count me asking why they wouldn’t already have married (I’d say this about anybody doing it this way) and my questioning the move of him dropping out of HS. Both of which are worthy points and hardly a cheap shot. They’re famous. She put them there with her choices.

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

carramea–You call it “incting hate,” I call it raising something people felt passionate about. Like strong family support, traditional values, and a love of civic duty. Is that not enough?
Or am I too stupid to notice my own thoughts and emotions?

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm

If Bristols name choice was a TRIPP, her soon to be husband is a good lookin TRIP – Congrats Palins, hope he is perfect in every way.

Posted by: lotzahair | December 29, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

JD – “loosely moraled?” Like Bristol you do mean? What is this? A republican does it and “aren’t they special for not having an abortion?” A democrat? They’re trash?

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

bruhman–I and you wouldn’t know. BHO won’t/can’t release any of his early documents that ALL other Presidents make public. Transcripts, thesis papers, etc…, even his own “birth certificate” is questionable. Being that it is only a “Certificate of Live Birth.” All that proves is that he was, indeed, born.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm

JD,
As apposed to Lil-Tripp being hatched, I guess. My birth certificate original also says certificate of live birth. Get a grip, that’s a dead issue. Barack Hussein Obama could have been born on the moon, and I would have voted for him over McCain/Palin any day of the week, and twice on Sunday!!!

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

Good for them, I hope they are happy.. But family values? Come on… Levi’s father hasn’t seen his grandson several days after it’s born… What kind of man is that? I understand that in this struggling economy, it’s hard to take off work, but to not make time to see your newly born grandson? Seriously? I’d rather get off work, drive 5 hours to see the child for 30 min, drive 5 hours back and get back to work without sleeping instead of not seeing my grandchild…. Also, lets be honest, just because Sarah Palin doesn’t believe in abortion doesn’t mean she has the highest family values.. She exposed her children and used them as pawns during the campaign to show that she’s a “soccer mom”.. Not to mention she had her baby out to all hours of the night on the campaign trail as a symbol of how she is a “great person” for keeping a child that she knew had down syndrome…. Family values my @$$…..

Posted by: what the deuce? | December 29, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Congrats to the Palin family.
Some of the comments on here are shocking. This is a 18 year old girl people. The election is over so why don’t you leave these children alone.
Everyone wants to condem the Palin’s for this child and I ask why?
People will say that its because of her values and that she is thus a hypocrit.
Thats bull in my oponion. She is a religious person, so what, she has never tried to force her values on anyone else. Never did anything as govenor to impliment abortion laws.
So why the hate towards this women and her daughter? The election is over, the MEssiah has prevailed, so why don’t you people focus your hate on something else

Posted by: jon | December 29, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

My family members are so proud of Bristol Palin not to choose abortion of
the adorable son who comes from God’s precious gift. God bless all family of
Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Janet -NY | December 29, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

Those of you who have negative coments for the new parents, I want to ask you, Do you have kids? whenever they leave the house and said they are going to the mall with their friends, do you know where they are really going. I am not a republican, but gosh the nagative coments are sickening, get real, grow up and wish them them best. At least the young man step up to the plate. did your son, or will your son step up to the plate? I am a conscious black man, and its time we stop spreading hatred, it spread like bad weed. STOP IT NOW!

Posted by: jerry | December 29, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

bruhman–you getting a little chubby talking about BHO? All those exclamation points are signs of overstimulation.
Pretty soon, you will learn that your superstar is, in reality, just another slimy lawyer/politician that will say anything to get elected.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

JD,
Have you ever been to Hawaii? I have, six times. It’s very much an international flavor. So, the fact that his mother married a Kenyan, and an Indonesian is of little concern. Does Todd Palin love America? I’d think not by joining a political party that desires to secede from our union!!! Why do the Palins hate America? Can you honestly believe such blatant Anti-Americanism from a state governor? Palling around with drug dealers and terrorist (the AIP is a terrorist organization). I guess she has no use for America or her damned institutions after all. So says Joe Vogel.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

JD you’re one “partisan” hypocrite. Either it IS or ISN’T O.K. to get preggers out of wedlock. See, this is what I mean. Your side will call Obama’s mom trash for having him and then complain if women abort. This mentality fuels abortions? And somehow because Brystol has a mother you’re hot on she’s all good and they’re pure? Your entire argument is nuts. You’re taking a similar situation and picking it apart in a partisan way.

Posted by: Susan | December 29, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

jon–Don’t forget BHO’s auntie that lives illegally in the US in public, taxpayer funded housing.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm

Why do republicans hate America? Whenever they lose an election, they cry like babies. I happen to think Obama is just that…a politician. He campaigned on a platform that was appealing to a majority of the voting public, and won.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

susan–If BHO’s mom was in America earlier in her term, she probably would have aborted.

Posted by: J D | December 29, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

My maturity level? I guess your comment that I’m overstimulated by Obama because I used exclamations is purely adult. And yes, 6% and 188 electoral votes is a great feat. Bush barely squeaked out two victories and that fool acted like he owned the world.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

Woo hoo BruhMan. A positive story about the Palin family indeed. Well said!
>>>At last, a positive Palin family story. I guess, as positive as being an unmarried, high school dropout, who lay seed to a high school dropout, future daughter in law to an indicted drug dealer, daughter of a political reject could get.

Posted by: Momof3 | December 29, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

JD,
You’re showing how much you hate America….Hawaii IS in America.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm

jon; Sarah Palin not only carries the cross of her own nastiness, and devisiveness. She carries those of the Larry Craigs, Haggartys, Mark Allens, and Foleys. Heck! She is basically carrying the whole load regarding the Karl Rove “Family Values” agenda.
In my opinion, it is not that we all don’t want to have a value system, and rear good, contributing American citizens. But my point is; what might work for you and your famiy just might not be in the best interest of me and my loved ones. For example; I want my children to be exposed to yoga. I think its a great exercise and teaches many valuable principles. We ARE Christians by the way. I am highly offended that a “conservative right-winger” nearly had such a program eradicated from the public school system because HE felt it promoted Hinduism and not Christianity. Instead of choosing that his child not participate in such an activity, he was hell-bent in having no child receive such exposure. Where’s the choice? Where’s the freedom?
Another example; I know gay people…I have members of my family who are gay. I don’t want them to be subjected to discrimination and beaten in the streets. If you met them, even you would admire what such upstanding citizens they are, and be bowled over by how much they contribute to the community as a whole. Trust me, you would never know they were gay unless they told you. …Don’t they deserve the same opportunities and rights?
Te “hard” right conservatives…these are people (Sara Palin included) who passed, supported legislation which curtailed such rights and many, many others. I’m against guns but I will fight for Sarah Palin’s right to have one.
So, Ellsbelle asking how her daughter’s pregnancy and grandson’s birth are being paid for IS a valid concern since she proposes/supports certain legislation which curtails one’s freedom to choose. Besides being taught abstinence, I want my children to have sex education to help support what I teach them so that they can HOPEFULLY make wise choices.
Sarah Palin is only receiving the brunt and backlash of that agenda.

Posted by: FS | December 29, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

don’t beleive you, any biz person would be outraged at the tax hike that obama is going to give you, he is going to kill your biz, and make sure he quashes the american dream of starting their own biz with his dumb ass rules

Posted by: aussieabrat | December 29, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Whether you believe me or not, has no bearing on how I’ll live my life. I happen to have voted on issues beyond taxes. That part of the feeble republican problem, one issue platform. Tax and spend label…but also tax and spend like the bank account has no end. So, I’ll pay an extra bit of taxes, I’ll help someone who can’t make what my family does. And, it’s not that much more I’ll pay. The two business my wife and I own are not multi-billion dollar businesses. They’re local service, and retail. My accountant is skillful enough to make sure I don’t get killed, but we do end up paying each year.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

bruhman, good luck with that roflmao

Posted by: aussieabrat | December 29, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

BruhMan,
I don’t know about you, but it is a little insulting to me that someone thinks I need to help someone else.
I help my family DAILY. My father-in-law just died and we did not hesitate to pay for the funeral, although my wife was going through a serious operation at the same time. (HAVE NOT GOT ALL THOSE BILLS, YET)
My parents are in their 70′s and 80′s. I have to spend a lot driving up and down the road to take them to the doctor’s and to get groceries. All my aunts and uncles are in their 70′s and 80′s and I go and do all I can for them.
My elderly next door neigbors can’t get around and they have no children (that will take their time to care for them).
So, we spend time helping them.
I THINK I ALREADY DO MY PART!?? I think it is really pissy that someone seems to think that I don’t. Actually, it is pretty damned insulting!
So, I am sorry, I LIKE A HELL OF A LOT of other AMERICANs already give! Why does someone think I need to share more???

Posted by: ajax | December 29, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

internet videos. I will fall within the $227,000-$603,000 (that’s take home gross, not net sales as Joe the Non-Plumber thought) bracket and pay a whopping $12 more in taxes. Hell, I spend more than $12 before I brush my teeth in the morning. I can surely go without a latte twice a week and get by. Yep, I see my mistake, I’m glad you’re informed on the issues. I didn’t say anything to or about you. And, if paying a little more to help someone else is insulting….whoa, aren’t you a little bah-humbuggish.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 29, 2008, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

@BruhMan,
I think if you read what I said, you would see that I ALREADY pay to help others.
I have no problem helping others. What I find insulting is someone thinking that we Americans ARE NOT ALREADY giving to help others.
Someone drinking lattes, evidently has the time and the money to give. :)
I was not picking on you, but at your and others remarks that makes it sound like American’s don’t ALREADY GIVE. A lot of us, already do.
Sorry.

Posted by: ajax | December 30, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

@Bruhman,
This was your comment.
“So, I’ll pay an extra bit of taxes, I’ll help someone who can’t make what my family does.”
That is very nice of you, but why should all of us that already do give be expected to give?
Oh yea, you are on a public forum. You are talking to me and everyone else out here. You don’t want someone to read your stuff, don’t post it. You don’t want someone to comment on what you post, then don’t post.
I am sorry, I don’t agree with the “Share the Wealth” crap. Sorry.
I already share everything I make and the time I have.

Posted by: ajax | December 30, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am

which is worse?
1 – ABC runs this as important ‘news’.
2 – People actually blog post as if it is important news

Posted by: Tor | December 30, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

7 billion people on the planet wasting resources like there is no tomorrow, and the Palin clan keeps poppin em out like they are something special and needed

Posted by: Tor | December 30, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

I wish Tripp every blessing that a new life will need in this world. He is a precious innocent child and deserves all the support he needs.
However, for the parents to exploit this event and sell baby pictures to People magazine for $300,000 is absolutely unconscionable! They are teenage unwed high school dropouts. Where is the glamor in that? This sends the message that it’s ok to get pregnant as a teen, it’s ok to drop out of high school, it’s ok not to get married if you don’t feel like it, and if you can make money from your mistakes, you should absolutely do it!
If Sarah Palin allows Bristol to glamorize this birth, what kind of message is it sending to Sarah’s other daughters?
I think it’s incredibly sad that so many people find this to be an attractive story. Where is our moral compass, America?

Posted by: idlspn | December 30, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

Idspn I hope that you are as appalled by the celebs both single and wed that do the same thing.

Posted by: karen | December 30, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am

Past quotes from Babydaddy Levi.
On advice to avoid the media:
They’re not telling me anything right now. It’s pretty chill.”
On joining the campaign and parading in front of the cameras:
“At first, I was nervous. Then I was like, ‘Whatever.’ ”
On Sarah Palin:
I just hope she wins. She’s my future mother-in-law. She better win.”
(Unfortunately, Levi neglected to register, so he couldn’t vote for Grammy Sarah.)
I can’t wait for his next interview with more riveting dialogue like this!

Posted by: Rudy | December 30, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

karen, the difference between the Palins and the Brangelina clan is that the Brangelinas don’t tout themselves to be devout Christians advocating abstinence and holy matrimony and moral conservatism.
That this is coming from Sarah Palin who invoked God’s name many a times during the campaign, this is what is appalling to me.

Posted by: idlspn | December 30, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Tabloid tripe…that’s all…I mean really…Palin’s daughter’s giving birth is worthy news? What rubbish.

Posted by: jd | December 30, 2008, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Idlspn, there is no justification on either end and there are a lot of people that invoke God in their daily, lives but fall short, no one is perfect, all you can do is dust yourself off and keep on trying it is never do or die, if you are appalled be appalled by the act don’t pick and choose which one is worst and I was not speaking of any particular star because they all do it.

Posted by: karen | December 30, 2008, 2:00 am 2:00 am

Tim:
Putin just shouted through the window,
“C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S”!

Posted by: Rosie | December 30, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

breaking news! Central New Yorkers struggle to pay utility bills!!
More than 60,000 customers with unpaid bills have had their service shut off by National Grid during the first 11 months of this year, a 16 percent increase from 2007.

Posted by: Hussein N.Y | December 30, 2008, 4:10 am 4:10 am

Susan – You said that Sarah brought this on her daughter. No, she didn’t. It is the immature, ugly people who CHOSE to react the way they have who have done this to this young woman. You, apparently, thought it was fine for them to say awful, ugly things about Bristol -and THAT is what I was talking about.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 30, 2008, 6:25 am 6:25 am

Hmmm well let’s see baby born out of wedlock , underage teenage sex, Self-Rightous self appointed moralist mother, Watching THE GOP, THE RNC,THE RELIGIOUS, AND ALL OF THE REPUBLICAN FAMILY VALUE ,ABSENTINCE ONLY PARTY EAT THEIR OWN WORDS (PRICELESS).

Posted by: KWOLF443 | December 30, 2008, 8:12 am 8:12 am

ells – She brought it on her daughter by choosing to run knowing she was pregnant. Had I stood in her spot I would not have said yes to a run because of Brystol. For two reasons. People are mean and I would not choose to put her thru that. It wasn’t like she needed the money nor didn’t have a fab career already. Not to mention that due to all of the preaching on morals and values from the party she would represent it would lend itself to a harsh bit of talk as well regarding it. This is what happens when you soapbox your beliefs as superior against what it is your child ends up doing. What I think has no effect on any of this and frankly I think people say horrible things on here daily. I can’t be held responsible for what they say. It was more toned down on this link than I thought it would be. You’re on here a lot as well and I know you’ve seen far worse. I can’t get all boo hoo about what you are saying there as I’ve listened to republicans run down about everything there is about liberals and their children for years. I doubt you cared much then. There’s more mean by far off the right.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am

Tim: Why don’t all you commentors who have so much hate for Palin watch the Maury show and you will see how many young girls are having babies out of wedlock plus don’t know who the father is. And don’t tell me that college student’s aren’t having sex in the dorms. All of you should clean out your own closet’s before talking about someone else. I am well aware of people having their children out of wedlock and then getting married later. And that could be your own parent’s having you before they married.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 30, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

idlspn: The Bradgelina clan are nothing but bums to me. Angelina Jolie broke up Brad’s marriage and had no shame about herself doing it. They were having sex all the time he was married to Anniston so don’t put a halo around their head’s. He is no saint and she is a sham. Brad should have divorced first. Get a grip. I am aware of the fact that people like you and 52% of college student’s are having sex all the time. But they are not in the limelight because no one cares what they do. Guys and girls in the same dorms. Get lost.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 30, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Man – liberals are gonna have a field day with this story. What say you, Rush?

Posted by: Bob | December 30, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Tim: They are too young to have sex but wait until later. They might just have sex before marriage, not get pregnant but get married later. Of course with all the security people surrounding them they won’t even have a normal life of their own. And Obama had enough news with his ties to corrupt people and its people like you that got duped like the rest of the public voting him in for change. What a laugh that is now.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 30, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Ken: God forgives but you cannot go on making the same mistakes over and over. Having a baby out of wedlock is not a crime. You know it like the rest of the world knows it. Abortion is the crime and you can bet that young girls are having abortions every day of the week. It just doesn’t make the news. And woman are having babies out of wedlock every day getting married later. This made news because Palin was chosen to run for the VP spot. And Palin’s daughter and future son-in-law are not doing drugs and don’t having a booze problem. And I know that is a big problem in the colleges today as stated on the news. Plus boys and girls living in the dorms together? Get real. Wasn’t Obama himself an avid drugger and boozer in college. I am sure he had plenty of sex in his day.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 30, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Susan: What has Palin’s daughter got to do with her running for the VP spot. Who cares if she was pregnant. Its going on all the time and young girls and guys are having sex everyday of the week. And many are getting abortions that you don’t read about. Wake up. This is not the thirties, forties and fifty’s. Walk past Wrigley field when the Cubs are playing and you will see how many young guys and girls are getting drunk hanging on to each other. No doubt having sex later. All you people commenting about Palin’s daughter are a joke when your doing the same thing. And college student’s are having sex in the dorms. We know it and the news media knows it.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 30, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Congratulations to the Palin family. I’m sure little Tripp will do well. He will have a loving grandmother and grandfather as well as two devoted great grandparents to look after him.
I look forward to his grandmother becoming our president in 2012.

Posted by: Nikki | December 30, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Mariann frankly I don’t care. It is the republicans that have spent the last few years damning liberals over this sort of thing – like they’re the only ones doing it. The hypocricy is the only thing I care about, and it appears it bit em in the rear. However, I do find it stupid the father dropped out of high school. Oh, and did I mention I would not remotely give Palin “Mom of the year” for the way she tends to the kids? Anybody can give birth. It’s what you do to raise them. So far she’s batting poorly. The rumors on why the son signed up for the Army imply it wasn’t a big patriotic thing either. Could it be the children are not being watched as much as they should be? It’s 2008 and is any child of hers going to make it to college you suppose? I voted left and am a stay at home mama with one heading off. So yup, I do what it is I say I’m judging on here.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

It is funny to see all the libs attack Sarah Palin for supporting her daughter. Sarah Palin is doing what any loving parent would do. Even if a child makes a mistake, they deserve the love and support of their family and Britol is fortunate to have just such a supportive family.
I guess ideology is more important to liberals than the support of family.

Posted by: Nick | December 30, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

The intense interest in anything related to Sarah Palin is amazing and a clear indication that both sides see her as the candidate in four years. I believe that is a good thing. We need someone in Washington that will bring new ideas. It seems both the Democrats and the Republicans have become the same. They both pursue the same failed big government ideology.
I believe Sarah Palin would finally bring a new perspective by redefining the role of the federal government. She seems supportive of states rights and an advocate of transferring power back to the states as the framers of the constitution envisioned.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

susan said “Nick, Liberals are attacking Sarah Palin because they can’t stand her period. She’s a hag”
Do you realize that it is this attitiude that caused the Republicans to lose this election? If Dems and Libs continue to attack without providing and new ideas they will be defeated just as the Republicans were. Now, I happen to believe that would be a good thing but I have to believe that you don’t. I guess I just fail to see why you would want to define yourself and your party through attacks. It is clear that Americans will not be supportive of this.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Wow – Well said.

Posted by: Laurie | December 30, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Bristol and Levi are just carrying on a family tradition. The reason Sarah and Hank Williams Jr. related so well was their family tradition.

Posted by: Trent | December 30, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Wow, you are now a target of the so called “tolerant” left. How dare you be born out of wedlock? Don’t you know you and society would be better off if you had been aborted? Your mom should be stoned for her egregious behavior.
Welcome to liberal America 2008.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

James, prior to Palin I might agree. But nope. She needs to go. They seriously need to get that she’ll never get in. This is helpful to them. I’m the centrist that can’t stand the woman. She’s just too mean for my tastes. I’m not sure if this is the real her, or if that persona was an invention. All I know is we react. Not to mention she lacks what I think somebody on top needs in the brain dept.
However, if you’d agree we just ditch both parties and start over? I’m game. She’s out tho. She’s practically invented division and she’s not welcome.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

You guys that like Palin must not “hear” the mean spirited mouth speak she did the entire time on the trail? Play back some of her speaking engagements and picture how you’d take her if you didn’t lean towards that side. She took it entirely too far.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Susan, what exactly has Sarah Palin said that was mean? She said Barack was “palling” around with a domestic terrorist. Well, Bill Ayers is a self described anarchist (IE: terrorist). She had a little fun with Barack Obama’s background as a community organizer – again, do you believe this is mean? Really?
Please provide some examples.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Wow…I wouldn’t call this “breaking news.” I feel teen pregnacy is a PROBLEM in this country and more needs to be done in teaching these kids about sex education. Parents need to take more responsibilty in the education of their children.

Posted by: Marie | December 30, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

I’m really amazed by how many people are calling this a “happy event.” Yes, it’s wonderful the baby is healthy. It’s wonderful they have the support of their families. However, it absolutely is not wonderful to see children find themselves in the position of having a baby. One of these kids has quit school, the other one has probably lost any chance of anything beyond a high school education and they are getting married because of a baby. Very few of those marriages last. In the end it is a terrible situation for these kids and for the baby.

Posted by: Becca | December 30, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Can we PLEEEEAAASSEE Stop wasting media space on this bunch of dumb losers? Drugs, out-of wedlock pregnancies, school drop-outs…Sounds like they belong on Jerry Springer, not in the national news.

Posted by: capnmike | December 30, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

@Marie “Parents need to take more responsibilty in the education of their children.”
Does that mean that we hold parents accountable if their children decide to not listen or if they make a poor choice? Should parents get jail time if their daughters get pregnant? What if a teenager tries pot? Should the parents be sent to jail? I just want to know so I can decide whether I need to lock my children in the house so they can’t possibly mess up. I can’t afford to go to jail or my family won’t be able to eat.

Posted by: Nikki | December 30, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

I’m not saying this to argue. I’m merely pointing out she’ll NEVER play well in the middle and we now see the middle is important. “Parts of the US are more patriotic.” Inciting people to yell to “kill him.” Yeah, that’s my idea of “united.” Well, not really. The ones turning to the black camera guy yelling “down boy” were really ugly. It’s clear on the many tapes on YT that her followers take her a bit too much to heart and it seems to bread some rabid pit bull mentality. Haven’t you guys gotten that many voted against this very thing? It went too far. The people spoke. Not to mention she’s appears to lack a great mind. The days of division races need to cease too. Such as catch phrases like “small town values” implying NYC is evil or something. I’m telling you, since you like her you’re missing how offensive she really was. She’s now “over my dead body” with me. I absolutely can not stand her whatsoever. She’s toast. I know many that feel this way. Many in the middle. The night she spoke at the RNC is the night I immediately donated a wad to Obama against that woman. That was his biggest night. She’s like “liver.” Love her or hate her. I doubt she’ll ever change my mind.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Susan, none of the things you listed rise to the level of being mean. Part of youe response seems to indicate that you hold Sarah Palin responsible for what others thave done. Well, how about the Obama supporters that attack Governot Palin’s family? Is Mr. Obama not as responsible for those attacks as Governor Palin is for a few of her supporters being irresponsble?
The bottom line is you probably oppose Governor Palin because of her stance on social issues. If you were upfront and simply argued those points I would have more respect for your position. Instead, you and others have simply resorted to personal attacks against the governor as a proxy for those arguments. In four years we will reevaluate Mr. Obama. I believe we as a collective group will find his performance in office to be wanting. Governor Palin will provide an alternative to this failure and the continued belief in both parties that big government is the answer. I only hope you will listen to Governor Palin and solutions with an open mind. Governor Palin has a long history of working with people of both parties.
One way you can have an open mind is to be fair in your consideration. You attack Governor Palin for saying “small town values” but you simply gloss over Barack Obama saying people in small towns are “clinging to God and guns”? Which of those two statements is more inflammatory? A decision based on perspective to be sure…

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

I was not a Palin supporter and I thought she was delusional for getting pregnant at 44. Kind of like playing Russian roulette for Down Syndrome, ya think? I also thought it was sad that this Bristol Palin didn’t use birth control in a day when it’s so easy to get. If you aren’t married, then you don’t need a kid, and it sounds more and more like the baby’s Dad isn’t up for marriage or it would have happened before the birth. Given all of that though, I feel badly this this new baby has gotten a rough start to his life. A grandma on drug charges? Another grandma who is the butt of many jokes? Yeah, life can be interesting.

Posted by: Mitsy | December 30, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Obama was right about small towners clinging to God & Guns, and moose-shootin’ Sarah Palin is their poster child.
Dear Editor,” Mayor Palin once wrote. “San Francisco judges forbidding our Pledge of Allegiance? They will take the phrase ‘under God’ away from me when my cold, dead lips can no longer utter those words. God Bless America.”
She don’t just cling to God & Guns, she has a death grip on them.

Posted by: Rudy | December 30, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

The baby is innocent in all of this no matter what we think about Sarah and Levis’ mother,or Sarah Palins views.I hope that Bristol continues her education though.

Posted by: andie | December 30, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

James, I absolutely hold a speaker responsible for how the audience is affected. She sits the tone. These are your party members misbehaving and evidently you approve? BOTH statement are inflamatory. Only she said FAR MORE on a constant basis? I am a stay at home mom that takes raising kids VERY seriously. And I do judge her on that. She calls herself “average hockey mom” so it’s more than fair. She should not have agreed to the big “promotion” because of the special needs child. Special needs means they need both parents more than most kids. She had a perfectly fine career. So, nope. I am rather more old-fashioned than she is a bit here? Perhaps if Sarah didn’t come across as a smug “B” then so many wouldn’t attack her. She began with this persona. She can deal with whatever it brings is my take. I doubt seriously she cares. The woman appears to be totally into herself more than anything. Once again – you stick her out front in 4 years? You’re looking at more liberal rule. That’s my prediction. She’s too controversal. And notice how you assume I have no morals and values if I put her down? This is exactly what I’m talking about. Some moral and value contest. We can dislike this woman for many reasons and last I heard it was O.K. in the US to not take to somebody.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

James, One more thing. Governor Palin and Troopergate. She’s vindictive and I loathe vindictive. I don’t care if she would bring small government. There are many aspects to her personality I simply don’t approve of. Actually I am pretty sure I have more morals and values than she does. Anybody can say they have these. It’s how we live that proves it. I don’t go after people due to my ego or whatever it is that prompts her. And the trooper guy isn’t the first.

Posted by: Susan | December 30, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am

I want to wish the new Baby Tripp the best and welcome him into our crazy world. I wish all the family the best and I am pleased that they chose to keep the baby…the one thing that S. Palin wanted to take away from everyone else. “The right to choose”
Still, I wish them all the happiness.

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | December 30, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

HE ONLY GOT HALF OF HIS SALARY=THE AUTO WORKERS GET 95%.GIVE HIM A BREAK= HE STILL OWES $14.000.000 ON HIS APT.

Posted by: GENEO | December 30, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

My best wishes to that baby. He’s going to need all the help he can get, with unmarried teenage parents who have not graduated from high school. I still don’t understand why Republicans can’t teach their children about sex and pregnancy in such a way so that kids actually learn how to prevent teenage pregnancy, not to mention sexually transmitted diseases.
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dejune5678 ,
Are you completely insane???
Take a look acroos th ecountry – especially in the inner cities (where by the way we have poured trillions of dollars over the past 40 yrs!) where you have women who are practically baby factories. multiple pregnancies by multiple men.
Where have all these liberal social experiments done for us….NOTHING!!!!
I’m pretty sure Palin’s daughter did not plan to get pregnant. She made a mistake. Last time I looked, most of us made a few mistakes at that age!
You liberals have for decades said a woman should be able to be a mother and a career woman. That was fine until a conservative woman decided to do it. Then it was all out attack on every aspect of her life, INCLUDING the fact you claimed she could not possibly devote the time to the job because of her kid! What a joke…more evidence that liberals libe and die on their motto – DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO !!!!
She does have a family to support her, more than one can say for a large number of “illegitimate births”.
As far as her values go, I’ll take her and her values any day over Barney Frank and his so-called values!

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Congratulations to the new family.
To those who think that the birth of a child is a good time to spew your hateful comments, please chill out and try to see the beauty in the world. Life is a sad thing when you can only focus on the negative aspects of every story.
Teen pregnancy is a nationwide epidemic and family values really has little to do with it – girls from good, moral homes get pregnant every day. Most have abortions.
What really has most of you upset is that Bristol did not abort her child but instead chose life and decided to see this pregnancy as a blessing, not a mistake. But don’t worry, soon, when Obama passes the abortion rights bill, teenage girls across the country will be able to get an abortion without parental consent (your teens will still need your consent to get their ears pierced or to see a dentist, but not for abortion). That should make a lot of you very happy. We can then go back to pretending that only the low-class teen girls from immoral homes are the ones that get pregnant.

Posted by: c'est moi | December 30, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Lily Bell – if you are sick of the Palins, why did you spend your time reading this story and writing a comment? If you are really sick of them, there are plenty of other news stories that might be a better use of your time.

Posted by: It's another great day for me | December 30, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

I just wish the new family member and his parents well…I hope when the parents marry they are happy. I also wish them all the luck…With society the way it is they will need it..Those casting stones should take a better look at themselves and their own lifes. There’s just too many hipocrites in the world.

Posted by: AnnD52 | December 30, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

But don’t worry, soon, when Obama passes the abortion rights bill, teenage girls across the country will be able to get an abortion without parental consent (your teens will still need your consent to get their ears pierced or to see a dentist, but not for abortion).
Posted by: c’est moi
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Psst, did you know that currently in Sarah Palin’s great state of Alaska, teen-aged girls can get an abortion without parental consent or even parental notification?

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

WWW – “Did you know that currently in Sarah Palin’s great state of Alaska, teen-aged girls can get an abortion without parental consent or even parental notification?”
Nope, I didn’t know that, but it’s good to know that despite that, Bristol still chose life over the easy way out – that takes bravery and faith. Soon, those same laws, erasing parental notification rules, will go nationwide.

Posted by: C'est moi | December 30, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

I feel sorry for the kid but not for the rest of the trashy family. The poor little guy will research his famous grandmas and find out the truth.

Posted by: Torque | December 30, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

AnnD52 and just an innocent baby – I agree with your comments. All this bashing is ridiculous. We all made mistakes at that age and continue to use poor judgment in our lives. The only questionable thing in my thinking is why they have not already married. I understand how accidents happen, but it bothers me that the two of them are not putting the baby first. They are still determining what is best for the two of them. That is just my opinion and I know there are good arguments for what they are doing.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 30, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Psst, did you know that currently in Sarah Palin’s great state of Alaska, teen-aged girls can get an abortion without parental consent or even parental notification?
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Hey WWW,
Do you want to add a few real facts to your insinuation ????
Alaska’s supreme court made this possible by throwing out a law that required parental consent. The vote was 3 to 2. Palin was against the court’s decision.

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Sarah’s first grandson name is Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston. Tripp Johnston, the name is much better 1,000,000 times than Barack Hussein Obama as an American.
HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR on All Palin’s family with new Baby.

Posted by: Sharon-NY | December 30, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

“So, every unwed mother that choses life is destined to kill their child?”
Enough of them do, and enough of them don’t have the education or maturity to take care of the kids once their born. Funny thing about sex, the least intelligent are the most prone to get preggers. People that are responsible take precautions. But, you must think unprotected sex is just okay-dokey.

Posted by: Torque | December 30, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Mike_C wrote, “Do you want to add a few real facts to your insinuation ????”
I insinuated nothing. I said “currently in Sarah Palin’s great state of Alaska, teen-aged girls can get an abortion without parental consent or even parental notification?”
That’s a fact, Jack, no matter how you slice it.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Funny, it was Bill O’Reilly who called the PARENTS of pregnant unwed teenage girls “pinheads” and said they were responsible (by being irresponsible parents) for their daughters’ predicament. At the time he was talking about Jamie Lynn Spears, but there is absolutely no difference between the Spear’s situation and the Palin’s situation…..

Posted by: SearamblerOne | December 30, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Poor right wingers are forced to defend teen pregnancies and unprotected sex because of Palin’s hot to trot daughter. Hope your children read a book and learn how to protect themselves because they sure won’t be taught the right thing by their parents.

Posted by: Torque | December 30, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Some of the ultra religious believe that homosexuality is a threat to marriage. Here’s the REAL threat:
A public official’s unwed teenage daughter gives birth to an illegitimate son and it’s “just precious!”
Why respect marriage when even our “leaders” and their families don’t?

Posted by: Constanza | December 30, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

SearamblerOne – it may surprise you to know that not everyone hangs on O’Reilly’s every word or agrees with everything he says. Of course, premarital sex, especially among teenagers, is immoral and should be discouraged. But the reality is, teens do have sex and they do get pregnant. Some handle that pregnancy with maturity and grace while others do not. It doesn’t take O’Reilly to tell us who the pinheads are.

Posted by: Who in Whoville | December 30, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Palin opposes a woman’s right to choose. Palin has also stated her opposition to abortion even in cases of rape or incest.

Posted by: andie | December 30, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

“Enough of them do, and enough of them don’t have the education or maturity to take care of the kids once their born. Funny thing about sex, the least intelligent are the most prone to get preggers.”
Hey Torque, I’m still waiting on those statistics that show that unwed mothers kill their kids in disproportionate numbers compared to married mothers. Also, still waiting for the stats that show it’s only the dumb kids that get pregnant.

Posted by: C'est moi | December 30, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

When Bristol was baking a bun, her parents said, “We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents.” So how could Bristol have made a “decision” if the Palins don’t believe in the right to choose?

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

It seems the Palin family is very close. Even though their daughter made a mistake they are there to support her and to make the best of a bad situation. The world would be a better place if we all followed this example. Don’t condone poor choices but realize our kids will make mistakes and be there for them if they do. The family being so involved and ready to help is quaint in some people’s eyes but I find it refreshing. Governor Palin has shown she is not blinded by her own personal beliefs. She seems more likely to believe that you try to instill your own values in your kids but you accept them even when they fail to live up to those values.
I would very much like to hear from Governor Palin again in 2012. She was probably not experienced enough in the last election but should be more than ready in another four years. Her willingness to reach out beyond her own personal beliefs to embrace a very human response to her daughters mistake demonstrates the kind of willingness to deal with reality that we need in government.

Posted by: Kim | December 30, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

People don’t want to get married becuse they want to fool around some more. Cry you rebuplicans, cry …you lost bigtime and Sarah Palin scared off the middle with her rants. The fact she couldn’t hold a press conference on her own shows what a piece of trash she is. Palin was just McCain’s way of being a maveric against Rove. Just about any other pick and he might have won. Sarah Palin is the bridge and the road to nowhere.She has no depth. SHe was way out of her league. I feel sorry for her, that McCain went psycho when picking her.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Kim – Amen to that!

Posted by: anotha momma | December 30, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

People who are unhappy with themselves cannot stand someone who is happy, confident, and that is loved very much by a lot of realistic sensible people. Laying at the bottom of the trash heap of society, they let their negative human nature get out of control and try to smear someone else like Sarah Palin or her family to overcome their own shortcomings.

Posted by: Dawn | December 30, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

c’est moi wrote: “Try to have a good day.”
LOL, I rarely have a bad day, but thank you for your concern.

Posted by: Torque | December 30, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

Dawn, I think you are right on. Sarah Palin is a happy person with a loving spouse and family. She is a successful governor as well. I think a lot of people just don’t like people who seem to have it all because they think they have to measure up to that standard. It really is ridiculous to think that way. No one has to compete with anyone else to be happy. Find joy in your own family or your own successes. Sarah Palin isn’t going to judge you if you don’t match her accomplishments. My guess is she is the type pf person that would be there to cheer you on no matter what challenge you face. Just as she is doing for her daughter.

Posted by: Kim | December 30, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

TO:WWW
The word bastard is a very ugly word, and you know it. Would you call your love ones ‘bastard’? Well, maybe you would. I don’t know.
FYI: This young girl only has one baby.
People are writing that she has two. Sorry, no. She’s the sister to her little brother. You know this.
There’s a lot of hateful people here.
The Palins welcomed this baby into their family. She did not abort.
That is indeed Christian values, and you can’t stand it.
I think misery loves company: that’s why there’s a whole lot of hate showing.
Now go away and be miserable by yourselves. The Palin family are sticking together – eat your heart out and be hateful somewhere else.

Posted by: that's an innocent baby - so shame on YOU | December 30, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

It really is sad when a daughter becomes just another way to attack her mother. Do you people who are attacking this family have perfect families? Not one of your relatives has challenges? Not one of your relatives has made a mistake?
I guess there are a lot of people who have deluded themselves into thinking they are better than anyone else.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

who in whoville wrote: “Of course, premarital sex, especially among teenagers, is immoral and should be discouraged. But the reality is, teens do have sex and they do get pregnant.”
Do you suppose it’s possible that, had Sarah Palin actually taught her children about birth control (instead of simply preaching abstinence-only), her daughter could have avoided becoming pregnant? Even while engaging in the “immoral” act of premarital sex? Shouldn’t the mother have acknowledged the “reality” that teens do have sex?

Posted by: SearamblerOne | December 30, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Palin “family values”: High school dropouts,unwed mother,redneck teenage father with a drug dealing addict mom. Great role models! From your “family values” party. Can you say do as I say,not as I do? You betcha!

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

torque wrote: “Poor right wingers are forced to defend teen pregnancies and unprotected sex because of Palin’s hot to trot daughter.”
How true! And the really pathetic thing is these exact same people would be screaming ‘immoral’ and ‘no family values’ and ‘bad role model’ if the unwed teenage daughter involved was the child of a democrat…..

Posted by: SearamblerOne | December 30, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Everyone one makes mistakes, but Hey why don’t you people go ahead and put Bristol before a firing squad..Everyone can be judgemental. How much of your paycheck is withheld for all the welfare programs where the kids just keep on coming, but you don’t see that as a PROBLEM ? And to ridicule their choice of names, that is their business. The media, like ABC (ALL BARACK CHANNEL) jumps on the chance to discredited the Palins or anyone outside of the BARACK loop. If Barry and his proud american wife decide to have more kiddies maybe they can name it SPOCK (since he is a trekie) or DUMBO

Posted by: lotzahair | December 30, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

I thought all Conservative family values Republicans were holier then thou? You mean they’re not perfect? And they have the nerve to want to control everyones life and tell you how to live,what to think etc. These people need to mind their own business and attend to their own screwed up families. The Palin family being Alaskas version of the Jerry Springer show.

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

What is with all the hatred towards a teenage girl? It appalled me when people heaped insults on Amy Carter and Chelsey Clinton. It irks me to see attacks on Bristol Palin.Some of you act like you are still in High School.

Posted by: MM | December 30, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

That is indeed Christian values, and you can’t stand it.—— Not everyone is Christian. I think the pro Palin camp can’t take any heat. Think of the heat if she would have won the election. Im happy. I am not running for president. Im happy Obama won. As a citizen I can say that Palin didn’t represent anything, period. She was so evasive until she finally got caught. It took another woman to uncover the lack of depth that Palin represented. If you can’t talk to Katie Curic how are you going to talk to Putin? An unplanned pregenacy gets alot of attention for a has been polititan. SOme press is better than no press I guess.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

that’s an innocent baby – so shame on YOU wrote, “The word bastard is a very ugly word, and you know it.”
Not so. It’s only an ugly word when used in its slang connotation of a vicious, despicable person. Of course there are euphemisms like illegitimate, baseborn, or maybe Babydaddy baby that you might prefer.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Some one mention Obama’s Birth cirtific. Has one ever shone up, or is that going to be a dead issue since he was elected? And when he gets away with it, then is that the new standard?
What is wrong with just being American?
I also dod note vote for the Draft dogger for President.
Where did Daver& www get so inteligent?

Posted by: AkelaJoe | December 30, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

The child is a bastard. Truth hurts doesn’t it. I’ll alwyas remember this birth as what family values means to rebpublicans.It means “your family values are not as good as mine”. BS My son is a doctor. Married with two daughters. Not some truck driver that knocked up my daughter and failed to make a woman of her with marraige so he can fool around with other women. I think we need a new term, “Democratic family values” where children are apreciated and don’t go off and have unprotected teen sex before marriage. Maybe they should have just called the baby “Condom” it makes as much sense as Tripp.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Does anyone remember the days when liberals were all about love, acceptance, unity and free choice? What happened? They now characterize the exact opposite of those ideals. Just read through some of the comments from those who I assume call themselves liberal. Very scary to see the hate.

Posted by: Just wondering | December 30, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Rightwinger can dish it out but can’t take the heat. America rejects Rightwingers. You people need to mind your own business and attend to your families and help prevent teenage pregnancies.Just saying “no” never works! Stop being such hyprocrites.Sarah Palin is a “huge” hyprocrite,but I almost forgot she can see Russia from her igloo.She’s a foreign policy expert.

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Just wondering–I ain’t no stinking liberal, try centerist and I am not taking the BS about the baby. You can’t be for family values and preach this to the nation and not expect some snears at your daughters out of wedlock bastard child. You just hate having another opinion that conflicts with your own.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

AJ,
Interesting how now your all of a sudden so concerned about the relationships surrounding a public figure. You moronic fool. I thought your set of values was that all the relationships that a person (Obama) has in his life actually have no meaning at all!
Once again….DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO.
You liberals are so stuck living that motto that you can’t get out of the way.
So what is it AJ?…Do these relationships that people have matter or don’t they?
Dont sprain your brain working on this now!

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Daver – OK. I’m glad that you’re a centrist (I am too). But I think the whole idea of family values is not to promote the idea of the perfect family, but to accept family members with all their imperfections and love and support them. Face it, teens are downright stupid sometimes (I was one once, I know) – they don’t always think straight, they make stupid mistakes and sometimes they embarrass their families. The smart ones though learn from their mistakes and grow to become good, honest adults. Those who are truly behind family values stand behind those teens throughout it all.

Posted by: Just wondering | December 30, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

“I think we need a new term, “Democratic family values” where children are apreciated and don’t go off and have unprotected teen sex before marriage.”
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LOL….good one Daver….you can have John Edwards & Bill Clinton as your Poster Boy’s for your “Democratic Family Values”…..LOL

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

If Sarah Palin had her way your teenage daughter who was raped by a serial rapist and got pregnant would “have” to carry the fetus to term. So what if it psychologically screwed her up for life! If Sarah had her way your pregnant wife who would die if she carried a fetus to term would have no choice but die. It would be “Gods” will of course.

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Daver,
Let me know when you can walk on water and then turn it into wine. I’m sure we would all love to be as perfect as you!
I wonder what we might find if we dug into your life at before your 20th birthday!
Any old girlfriends who might have a story or two to tell? Crack up your parents car after going out and drinking or smoking or snorting something illegal ? Run a red light and crash into an elderly couple’s car?
I wonder………

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Hey Mike Rightwingers are a dying breed! Thank God! I bet you voted for Bush! He ruined this country! Heck of a job!

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

I’d be very interested in seeing the pic of the baby. There is some allegation that the baby’s father is Black. Interesting concept here!!
LET’S SEE THE PICTURES!!!!!!!!

Posted by: QuietStorm | December 30, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Daver,
Of course it makes no sense to you. You don’t want to admit the common link. Edwards and Clinton both had affairs while running for and actually being the President. LOVELY VALUES!!!!
Now do you think you can “get it” ???

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

AJ,
LOL…well…if you want people like Barney Frank & Al Franken running the country….well YOU GOT IT!!!!
Just remember that Barney Frank is the man most responsible for the current economic crisis!

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Just wondering –sounds interesting but that is not how the game is played. The people on the right are creepy. Just some of the crowd chatter from a Palin rally is evidence enough. From creepy people you get judgemental hypocrites. Its not a far leap to make that connection. Republicans think they are better than the average American, they’re not. IF Palin’s family is any indication they are worse than the average family in the US. Palin would have made a better case if she would have admitted her faults like the mother in law, the divorse and the trooper, etc.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

AJ – that’s nonsense! IN the vast majority of rape cases the morning after pill is used, eliminating the abortion discussion in cases of rape! Even if Roe-vs-Wade were ever overturned, it would NOT outlaw abortion – it would make it a state’s right’s issue and chances are, even the most conservative states would still allow abortions for those difficult cases. Yes, Palin believes that pregnant women should carry their fetuses to term, but turning that belief into the law of the land is not as easy as you make it sound, even if she had become vice president. After all, Pres. Bush shares that belief and abortion is still alive and well in this country.

Posted by: Nogin | December 30, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Daver, true, but there are creepy, judgmental hypocrites on both sides of the political spectrum. I think with Palin, her family is a typical American family, faults and all. Rather then hide those faults, they own up to them, stand by one another and support each other. You don’t have to be a creepy hypocrite to see the beauty in that .

Posted by: Just wondering | December 30, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

This is hilarious – just think back to our dear Democrat Bill Clinton’s impeachment hearings when he asked for the word “SEX” be defined and the word “IS”. LOL, a president that doesn’t know the meaning of the word, and now we have his carbon copy of family values…Barry..Barack…Hussein…Soetoro…Obama…Dunham…Mr Transparent…Mr Open….no birth records…no marriage or divorce records…no records for college…no health records…no selective service records…He is transparent alright, almost invisible, no traces. You must be proud, you have certainly improved you high standards with a nobody Chicago thug, next time maybe you Dems can nominate, Blago, Rezko, Ayers, Larry Sinclair that would be another step up in your morals, standards and values. Congrats, you deserve it. It is obvious by your hate blogs you are proud Americans.

Posted by: lotzahair | December 30, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Mike_C–Sorry I was an A student and didn’t hang with losers. My son applied for Dr without boarders, I was proud. What does your sorry ass do?

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Mike_C: Were you aware that over the past 8 years the US spent one BILLION on abstinence-only programs? Clearly, our country needs to make changes when programs don’t work, or are strangled by underfunding. It’s not just “liberal social experiments” such as inner city Block Grants, but also failed Bush era projects like No Child Left Behind. Get over “liberals” vs. “conservatives” – we have to work together – our country’s future is at stake.

Posted by: Center One | December 30, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Nogin, I’m not so sure Palin supports the use of the morning-after pill. Remember this exchange from the Katie Couric interview?
Couric: Some people have credited the morning-after pill for decreasing the number of abortions. How do you feel about the morning-after pill?
Palin: Well, I am all for contraception. And I am all for preventative measures that are legal and safe, and should be taken, but Katie, again, I am one to believe that life starts at the moment of conception. And I would like to see …
Couric: And so you don’t believe in the morning-after pill?
Palin: … I would like to see fewer and fewer abortions in this world. And again, I haven’t spoken with anyone who disagrees with my position on that.
Couric: I’m sorry, I just want to ask you again. Do you not support or do you condone or condemn the morning-after pill.
Palin: Personally, and this isn’t McCain-Palin policy …
Couric: No, that’s OK, I’m just asking you.
Palin: But personally, I would not choose to participate in that kind of contraception.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

Just wondering– I thought Palin avoided the press. She said she wished she hadn’t after the election. That’s not standing by family that is avoiding the dilemma it creates.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

WWW – Well, I don’t know but I think the morning after pill technically prevents conception doesn’t it (as long as an embryo hasn’t implanted, it’s considered pre-conception, I thought, but I could be wrong)?
But yes, it does sound like she’s against it, but so what? Bush is adamantly opposed to abortion too and what did it get him? Safe and legal abortion is here to stay and even most conservatives (maybe not Palin or Bush, but most others) do not oppose the morning after pill, expanded birth control services and safe and legal abortion, so long as it’s not used as birth control or population control.

Posted by: Nogin | December 30, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

WWW –Thank you for the quotes. Now I see the gaffs. I think life begins with the first breath outside the womb. But who am I to say. That is my religion and I will stick by it.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Daver,
They’re just liberal, elite media until they show up with “front” money for Grammy Sherry. Then, they become “defense fund” contributors. Any of ‘em, all of ‘em, that have been in front of Her Holiness…just as long as you keep Katie Couric away.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

lotzahair- I wasn’t an A student you moron. Can’t you take a joke. Never tried crack. You must have to be so brazen. Who the hell’s business is it what I do? I’m not running for president.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Hey Center,
How many trillions have we spent in the past 40 yrs to fight drugs & alcohol?????
Only a a moron beleives that human beings can live up to any set of reasonable moral values 100% of the time! The point that people should be focused on here is that this child will have a complete family around to support it.
Contrast that with the situations in many cities where single moms have multiple kids from multiple fathers and have zero support around them.
These are two yong people who certainly did not plan to have a child at this point in their lives. They are working hard to to the right things for this child and the family is there to help & support them. For some reason, liberals seem to find this a great source for ridicule.
As I stated above, ALL of us made mistakes at that age. It was in that liberal kingdom called Massachusetts that we had the case of the high school girls all getting pregnant at the same time. Some by total strangers! Where were Ted Kennedy, John Kerry & Barney Frank then???
How many teen pregnancies are their in your own local high school this year alone ?
Family Values are a set of principals we try our best to work to. Like most things in life, we do not always live up to the goals we set for ourselves.
Would all you liberals feel better if Palin tossed the kid out on street? Or told her she HAD to get an abortion?

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Daver – I never heard her say anything negative about Bristol, Levi or the choice they made. Seems to me like they are welcoming this grandchild into the family. You can say a lot of things about Sarah Palin (and I’m not a big fan of her’s either) but you have to admit, she’s been rather steadfast in standing by her family. I’m sure that like any family, when Palin first heard the news of her daughter’s pregnancy, I’m sure she was mad, disappointed and maybe even worried about how it would impact her politically, but in the end, I think she handled it well. I’ve known parents to kick their teen daughters out on the streets upon learning of their pregnancy – does that sound like true family values to you?

Posted by: Just wondering | December 30, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

daver,
LOL….my “sorry @ss”..keeps you free to be an idiot! I’m an engineer with 25+ yrs of experience working on things that most people never see, until they country needs them.
My son is a 4.0 student/athlete at one the country’s elite engineering schools.
I made my share of mistakes at 18, and I’m damn sure you did too.

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Just wondering –she is under the spot light. If she want to run in 2012 and I hope she does, she has to make concessions. Look at when she isn’t in the spot light she is breaking every rule to get some ex-husband trooper fired. Or she just builds a road to nowhere.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

James- you moron, Obama hasn’t even taken office and you are going gonzo anti-american. Get a grip.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

To all you Sarah Palin apologist…she’s a fraud. She hates America. Her whole holier than thou persona is garbage. She’s a political novice. She governs a state less populated that the city of San Diego (is that Karl Rove I hear in the distance?) Every exit poll suggests she is the reason McCain lost the election. The foolish thing was perpetrating a 72-item questionnaire, and 15 minute interview as a VP candidate. She’s made ZERO executive decisions as the so called “Commander-in-Chief” of Alaska’s National Guard. Furthermore, she’s not even briefed on activities of the Guard. Putin hasn’t reared his head over Alaska…there hasn’t been a Russian-American airspace violation in over 20 years. Witch Doctor Muthee must not have laid the Wright hands on her Nov 4th. God Bless America that this evil was confronted, and stopped.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Daver…I don’t care what you do. You shouldn’t call an innocent child a bastard nor ridicule a name that he did not select, like you suggested “Condom” please, talk about brazen, get real

Posted by: lotzahair | December 30, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

Hey Daver,,
You sound like all the nut case on the right still claimimg that obama’s birth cert. is fake.
Palin did NOTHING to get any trooper fired. Like we all say about the stupidity of the birth cert…..GET OVER IT ALREADY!
Man, your one of the most frightened liberals i have seen out here. Your scared to death of Palin, but your happy as a pig in mud to let Pelosi/Reid, Barney Frank & Co run this economy into oblivion.
You voted for it….you got it….and its an “E” ticket ride!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Mike_C — I actually stayed at home with my ailing mother duirng my tweenties, taking care of her. Not really doing things for myself. I too am an engineer in computer science. What a small world. You sound so important. Im into crypto. Do you know what that is? I got my degree at MIT. But I am sure you are doing import things too. Good luck with your son. Tell him to use a condom.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Daver, Obama has taken huge sums of money from the trial lawyers. You don’t think this signals his take on tort reform? Obama has proposed a trillion dollars in new spending. Does this sound like he will be concerned with getting a handle on spending? He is also proposing another trillion dollars for a so called stimulus package. Mr. Obama also seems to be more concerned with deflecting attention from Rahm Emanuel and Bill Richardson than he does in making sure they have not broken the law. This has happened before he has taken office but he is the president elect. He promised to bring change. This does not look like change at all – it looks like politics as usual.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Mike_C- my mistake. After reading all the rightwinger bashing of Obama in this discusssion I couldn’t help myself. And you are a right winger that has to respond to every thing about your candidate like an engineer of sorts. What you couldn’t just let it go either?

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

“I actually stayed at home with my ailing mother duirng my tweenties, taking care of her. Not really doing things for myself. ”
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LOL….Daver….Wow…sounds like your up sainthood …did you you also run a home for all the oppressed and give all your earnings to Green peace ???

Posted by: Mike_C | December 30, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Daver is so cute. He’s like a little boy that still hasn’t decided whether he likes girls yet. It’s OK Daver, Sarah won’t bite.
Awww the little ones are so cute…

Posted by: Nikki | December 30, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

James- this surprises you? Your depth of understand seems alittle light. Give him a chance when he is in office to start the bashing. If it means being out of work and no food on the table after Bush I will welcome Obama.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Nikki – my reaction to Palin’s nomination (and thanks for the cute comments) was that it was great that women were going to get representation in the executive branch. But when she opened her mouth it was shrill. And when she hid from cameras and interviews it was noticable. But now women have represnetation in the State department and if the world is any indication she has a lot of work to do.I’m talking about Hillary.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Daver, what is to understand? Obama is proposing a trillion dollars in new spending. Doesn’t seem too hard to understand what that will do for deficit spending.
It also isn’t hard to understand that when a Democrat takes money from the trial lawyers (Example – Bill Clinton) they will do whatever they can to prevent tort reform.
The only other thing I can imply from your answer is that Obama lied on purpose during the campaign and is now going to return to his “responsible” side. That to me seems like a lot of audacity – maybe too much audacity to be taken seriously.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

Nogin,
Many believe that conception occurs at the moment of fertilization. I believe that’s why Palin seems unsupportive of the morning-after pill.
Also, George W. Bush isn’t nearly as adamant about abortion as Palin. He’s against them except in the case of rape or incest; she’s against them always unless the mother’s life is in danger. I suppose that’s her brand of Christian charity.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

2008 kitchen table political issues:
1. Economy
2. National security
3. Education…
10. Iraq…
100,000. Tort reform

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

For all you folks who have a problem with the term bastard, here’s a “softer” name: Fitzlevi.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Mike_C – I have never ridiculed these new parents, so don’t call me “you liberals” – it’s patronizing. You say – “Contrast that with the situations in many cities where single moms have multiple kids from multiple fathers and have zero support around them.” One reason is that the population in the US has doubled over the past 50 years and it’s time to change old programs, including Welfare, that are not working. For example, other industrialized countries that teach age-appropriate and science-based sex education in the public schools have much lower rates of single teenage moms, abortion, and STDs. When the Republicans stubbornly promote abstinence-only programs, in spite of clear evidence it is not working, it is held up for ridicule.

Posted by: Center One | December 30, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Mike_C – one more point: According to a study by Nobel Prize economist James Heckman, US “moral failure” can be improved through education. High school graduation rates peaked in the U.S. in the late 1960s, at about 80% and have fallen ever since. Heckman says this is not because of poor schools or lack of funding for college – it is American family environments which have deteriorated over the past 40 years. He points to huge gaps in a child’s ability to learn by age 5. IQ matters, but Heckman says equally important traits are established in very young children: motivation levels, emotional stability, self-control and sociability – you know – traits kids need to continue in school and get a job. Heckman says early childhood education can help break the cycle of drop-outs, teen pregnancy, and generations of welfare moms – similar to the bi-partisan supported Head Start program. This successful program has seen its federal funding strangled over the past 8 years while the US instead spent 1 Billion on failed abstinence-only programs.

Posted by: Center One | December 30, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

BruhMan –LOL, that is my answer to James.

Posted by: Daver | December 30, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Personally I don’t care if Bristol Palin F&%*s like the energizer bunny. More power to her, but Mama and the Religious hypocrites need to come off their high horse. If Bristol were black (or in Wasilla) Native American and on welfare the goody-goody 2 shoes would be blasting her for being a “harlot”. Levi is not in any hurry to marry Bristol because they are honestly not sure just who is Daddy. Booze makes for foggy memories.

Posted by: Wasilla Jackie | December 30, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

We thought the little guy would be named Trapp. I’m amazed at how close we were.

Posted by: Curzin | December 30, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Daver,
I know I’ve had thousands of hours of political debate, conversation, and arguments with family and friends. Tort reform has never, ever, EVER come up as an issue. James just sounded like he had a beef with lawyers, period.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

I hope Caribou Barbie runs again she’s a Jerry Spinger wannabe for sure. I wonder if her witch doctor friend will cast some more spells for a 2012 run? only the extreme Rightwing fringe would EVER vote for Caribou Barbie. You betcha! Wink! Wink! John McCain probably curses every time Palins name is mentioned in private!

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

All will take for Palin to run, is hearing an imaginary voice in her head, that she’ll no doubt claim is God, telling her 2012 is “her time”. She’ll just plow right through that door…maybe prematurely, but all she needs is a crack, and she just plows right through. Never will she stop and maybe listen to God tell her NO, NO, NO Sarah, I don’t approve of your hypocritical, religiously phony, hateful lifestyle. For a political novice to come on the scene, with that kind of hate speech, and limited knowledge was comical. I mean, she played well for the camera (what a waste of $150,000)…but GD, there was absolutely no way in hell she could even have been considered. She absolutely made FoxSports Far NorthWest proud, with her journalism degree, and all.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

With her stellar qualifications, I’d be surprised if in 2012 Lisa Salters, Robin Roberts, Cheryl Miller, and maybe even Keith Olbermann wouldn’t consider a run at the Republican ticket. Hell, they all have journalism degrees too.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

After four years of failure under Obama, the Republicans will run on a platform of change in 2012. I also believe Governor Palin will push states rights specifically as a way to reform Washington. The federal government has proven they can never be trusted to provide responsible governance. Social programs and other governance issues can be more effectively addressed at the state level.
Governor Palin understands this and will make a compelling argument for fundamental change through states rights. She will restore our federal government to what our founding fathers envisioned; a government where states become the laboratories of government and the people can be ensured of good governance either through change in their local state legislatures or by moving to another state. Neither of these things is possible under the current model of strong centralized control.
Governor Palin will be a strong voice for this fundamental change. Obama will prove over the next four years that “change” was just a slogan. We need REAL change not a slogan.

Posted by: James | December 30, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Nov 5, 2008 the beginning of Sarah Palin as a has been. In my opinion, should never had been. And never will be. James, how do you reconcile every exit poll that indicates Palin was the cause of McCain’s loss? And, she’ll need more than Alan Greenspan’s book to get abreast of economic issues. She’ll need more than a ten minute meeting with foreign leaders at the U.N. Assembly to get abreast of international issues (and, no, imaginary trade missions with Russia do not qualify as international experience.) She’ll need more than a Dancing with the Stars stylist to give her cross section appeal. If she was such an advantage, she’d have helped McCain win now, get experience and be in position to succeed him. SHE WAS A POLITICAL BUST!!! She drove ingrates, thinking with their sex organ to the polls. Fortunately for our great country, that evil was confronted and defeated.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Any of the chants of ‘Sarah’ or anything that maybe also would look like maybe anything was Sarah-centric control, is, again, on my part, I know that it is not me personally, that the cheers were for. It’s for, ‘Cool, we’ve got a woman on the ticket, also the laboratories, and a platform for change, also we’ve got this manifestation of progress and fundamental change in America. Governance issues, again, as a slogan, but not me, personally, were those cheers for, but it was also just for the representation of a woman on the ticket, a mom, again somebody who loves this country so much, somebody very, very committed to policies that, again, I believe, will progress states rights in this country in the right direction. I think that’s what that was all about too.

Posted by: Sarah P. | December 30, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Maybe Obama is a Muslim, maybe Obama is a socialist, maybe Obama wasn’t born a US citizen, maybe Obama is the most liberal person to run for president, maybe Obama is the least experienced person to run for president, maybe Obama isn’t black enough, maybe Obama is white enough, maybe Obama heard anti-American things at church, maybe Obama palled around with a terrorist when he was eight years old, maybe Obama caused the gas prices to rise, maybe Obama is the cause of global warming, maybe Obama wants to raise a white flag of surrender in Iraq…all of these maybe’s and Palin still couldn’t win one for the gipper. Over 8,645,000 more votes…6.8 percentage points more, 365-173 electoral LANDSLIDE. Palin’s got some work to do James.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 30, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

No Liberal or Moderate voter would EVER vote for Caribou Barbie! Only a few Kool-aid Bible thumping Lush Limbaugh morons would vote for her!

Posted by: AJ | December 30, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

I get the feeling that Americans have so much hatred for each other that we really don’t need outside forces to cause this nation to fail. It sounds like we are no longer the “United” States.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 30, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Why does everyone assume that Bristol knows nothing about birth control because her mother favors abstinence only ed? She probably had sex ed in school & read magazines. And why does everyone assume she didn’t USE birth control? I know plenty of people who have gotten pregnant while on the pill. One friend of mine got pregnant 3 times while on the pill. Another got pregnant after her husband had a vasectomy. Then she had her tubes tied & got pregnant again. As for bashing Sarah Palin about her family values, she has not been hypocritical at all. What a shock… she taught her daughter not to have sex before marriage & the teen went & did it anyway. How many of you have your children follow everything you tell them to do? She stood beside her daughter & supported her… just the way you would expect someone to who has the values she does. And for those who think she shouldn’t have accepted the nomination knowing her daughter was pregnant… why shouldn’t she have? Should every woman who has a pregnant teen daughter quit their job? Not take a promotion? Not apply for a better job? The idea is ludicrous & sexist.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 30, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm

ellsbells980 wrote, “Why does everyone assume that Bristol knows nothing about birth control because her mother favors abstinence only ed? She probably had sex ed in school & read magazines. And why does everyone assume she didn’t USE birth control? I know plenty of people who have gotten pregnant while on the pill. One friend of mine got pregnant 3 times while on the pill.”
Obviously, you know plenty of people who don’t follow directions. The pill is more than 99% effective when used as directed. Using a condom with the pill is a virtually foolproof method of contraception and, furthermore, helps prevent STDs. But Mommie Dearest wouldn’t have informed Bristol of these facts because of her belief in abstinence-only sex education. And it’s unlikely that Bristol received sufficient sex ed in school because Wasilla’s schools do not teach detailed information, according to local residents.
Poor Bristol. Poor, poor Tripp.

Posted by: WWW | December 30, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

“And for those who think she shouldn’t have accepted the nomination knowing her daughter was pregnant… why shouldn’t she have? Should every woman who has a pregnant teen daughter quit their job? Not take a promotion? Not apply for a better job? The idea is ludicrous & sexist.”……. You left out the special needs child Ells. Yup, she should NOT have accepted the job. She chose to have a pack of kids, one special needs, a couple having issues and nope, should not have taken the job Ells. Because while women want choices? Most choose with their family in mind first, THEN their own selfish desires. Or so that’s how I parent.

Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 31, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am

chattyway: I guess you don’t know but the baby’s daddy does have a job and a very good paying one, too. He is an oil field electrician apprentice. He will make over $75,000+ next year and when he finishes his training and apprenticeship in five years his salary will be over $100,000+ a year! That is VERY good for a nineteen year old without a high school diploma!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 12:30 am 12:30 am

sara wilson: Your ignorance and stupidity is showing! You know absolutely nothing about downes syndrome or you would know that, granted more babies with downes are born to older mothers, but they can be born to women of any age! They are also born to families of any social class or income from the richest families to the poorest! Downes syndrome knows nothing about social class or income and doesn’t discriminate! A baby with downes can even be born in your family sometime!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

sara wilson , Your comments about the origin of Down’s Syndrome “doesn’t Down Syndrome come from incest…or being too old to have babies,” are the stupidest I have seen on this site.

Posted by: MM | December 31, 2008, 12:54 am 12:54 am

Sarah will be back in 2012 but this time no one will be able to say that she’s not experienced or qualified for whatever office that she runs for. She will be ready in 2012! You can count on it! She will be completely read up on all of our laws and foreign policy and she will know what to expect in a national campaign. She won’t be caught off guard next time! She will also know what to say and what not to say to reporters next time! Go Sarah in 2012!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am

I would have preferred more opportunity to speak to the media more often, because there were a lot of things that I think it could have, should have said that could have, would have helped John McCain. But by 2012, Putin will have, can have, shall have reared himself over this great state of Alaska, progressing my foreign policy expertise. I may have – no, will have, shall have, must have a list of newspapers ready for Katie Couric. Too, I shall not, will not, must not do interviews whilst turkeys are slaughtered. Again, you can count on it also.

Posted by: Sarah P. | December 31, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

that’s an innocent baby_so shame on you: I agree with everything you said!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 2:16 am 2:16 am

I don’t know think that Sarah Palin will be any more politically savvy in the next election. And that’s if her party nominates her. She should concentrate on educating herself more and being a supportive mother and grandmother.

Posted by: andie | December 31, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

We can see where the hate is coming from: the left.
You can’t stand Palin. Okay, that’s your right – no problem.
But to write such ugly words about a BABY, is just plain hateful.
Where’s your values?
Where’s your morals?
Where’s your sense of fair play?
Hey, nobody isn’t saying that the girl and the guy were not foolish to get themselves into this situation. They might be pinheads – or whatever you want to call them. I don’t care.
HOWEVER, they could have gotten an abortion. They decided to have that baby. So good for them.
This is where the hate comes in that I will never understand.
So for all of you who wrote such hateful words regarding this baby:
SHAME ON YOU. MAY NOBODY EVER CALL YOUR BABIES IN YOUR FAMILY THOSE NAMES.

Posted by: this is an innocent baby | December 31, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

What names??

Posted by: Rudy | December 31, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Trig and the newborn Trip are both innocent babies. They don’t deserve the hateful things that have been said about them.

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

In a year or two after Obama has taken ALL of your money and completely emptied your 401k’s and your IRA’s and put all of your money in a government fund, as he promised he would do in one of the debates, and you are flat broke and the bank has taken your home and you are living on welfare and food stamps, you will be BEGGING Sarah Palin to run for president! Your opinion of her will change very quickly when you lose everything! You will suddenly think she is VERY intelligent! You think the last few years with George W. Bush have been bad. You have not seen anything yet! You will soon think they were good years compared to what’s coming! I think the honeymoon with Barack Obama will end very quickly and soon and before the next four years are over you will be calling for his impeachment!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

BruhMan you’re an idiot and you know nothing about the Bible! You should read it sometime, especially the part about love and how to treat others! You might learn something!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

What hateful things???

Posted by: Rudy | December 31, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Read the Bible? The same one of yours that predicts Obama stealing everyone’s money and destroying the world? The same one that Witch Doctor Muthee slapped Bible Spice across the grill with? Oh, yeah….i need to read the Bible.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 31, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

carlyonsue, why did you change your name to countrygirl? You’re still getting a big lump of coal next Christmas.

Posted by: S. Claus | December 31, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston is already in the midst of a tabloid bidding war—which is rumored to have started at a sweet $100,000—for the exclusive first photo. The asking price, which is supposedly around $300,000, wasn’t due to the popularity of grandma Palin, but to the fact that the mother of Bristol’s baby daddy, Levi Johnston, was recently arrested on drug charges.

Posted by: mclaw | December 31, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

BruhMan: I never said the Bible said anything about Obama! You said that, not me! I just gave my opinion of the man and I repeated what he said in one of the debates!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

S. Claus: Just because carlyonsue and I agree does not mean that we’re the same person!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

WWW – but the pill is NOT 100% effective, even when used correctly. And the people I know did follow directions. How do you explain the couple who had the vasectomy & tubal ligation still getting pregnant? As for Bristol…. every girl 13-15 that I know reads Seventeen magazine & every girl 16-21 reads Cosmo. There are plenty of articles about birth control in BOTH of those publications. But you completely missed my original point…. too many people ASSUME that Bristol & Levi did NOT use birthcontrol. We don’t know whether they did or didn’t.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 31, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Rudy: Trig and now the newborn baby Tripp have been called every hateful name that they can be called. Trig has often been called an idiot and a retard because of his downes syndrome and now baby Tripp has been called a bastard. This is an eight month old baby and a newborn baby that we are talking about! That is the kind of hateful people that we have now!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

ellsbells930: You are right!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

countrygirl, you agree with carlyonsue about what? She hasn’t written anyting on this blog!
But let’s compare from an old blog just for giggles.
I think that before Obama’s term is over Sarah Palin will seem like a genius to you Obama supporters after he has raided your 401ks and your IRAs and deposited your money in a government fund and left you nothing for your retirement and not done half of the things that he promised! You’ll regret voting for him and turn on him and start calling for his impeachment! Your love affair with him and your honeymoon with him will definitely be over and you’ll be BEGGING Sarah Palin to run for president in 2012! …carlyonsue
In a year or two after Obama has taken ALL of your money and completely emptied your 401k’s and your IRA’s and put all of your money in a government fund, as he promised he would do in one of the debates, and you are flat broke and the bank has taken your home and you are living on welfare and food stamps, you will be BEGGING Sarah Palin to run for president! Your opinion of her will change very quickly when you lose everything! You will suddenly think she is VERY intelligent! You think the last few years with George W. Bush have been bad. You have not seen anything yet! You will soon think they were good years compared to what’s coming! I think the honeymoon with Barack Obama will end very quickly and soon and before the next four years are over you will be calling for his impeachment! …countrygirl
The same person didn’t write those two comments???? ROFL!

Posted by: S. Claus | December 31, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

ellsbells, read what I wrote one more time. I didn’t say the pill was 100% effective, I said it was more than 99%. The pill used WITH a condom IS nearly 100% effective. And I didn’t say one word about vasectomies or tubal ligations because they are not appropriate methods of birth control for TEENAGERS! But since you brought it up a vasectomy is 99.85% effective – only 1 or 2 women out of 1000 will get pregnant after her partner’s vasectomy. Tubal ligation is about as effective as the pill – fewer than 1 in 100 will get pregnant. The numbers don’t lie but perhaps your acquaintances do. Either that or they are GREAT at beating the odds and should play the lottery.
If Bristol and Levi PROPERLY used the pill WITH condom, it is HIGHLY unlikely she would have turned up pregnant.

Posted by: WWW | December 31, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Nobody called Trig any names on this blog and Tripp is a bastard! The word isn’t hateful unless it’s used in its slang connotation. If you folks would take just a moment away from your bible readings to look up the word, you would find that its primary meaning is a baby born out of wedlock. The word is not derogatory unless used in a derogatory fashion!

Posted by: WWW | December 31, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Uhh-ohh, People Magazine has rescinded the $300,000 offer for Lil-Tripp’s pictures. So, slow down Grammy Sherry, that “cof” shipment will have to wait. And, Nana Holiness, put that Nieman-Marcus shopping spree on hold. I guess papa Todd will have to sell a few more snow mobiles this winter.

Posted by: BruhMan | December 31, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

S. Claus: I’ve read carlyonsue’s comments on other blogs. (I read them, too, just as you do. I just don’t keep a record of what everyone says like you do! I have a life and I have better things to do!) I know what she said. I don’t need to be reminded. I just happen to agree with her! We are not alone in our opinions either! There are amny others who agree with us!

Posted by: countrygirl | December 31, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

www- you implied that my friend couldn’t have gotten pregnant on the pill without not following directions. And the reasone I spoke about the vasectomy & tubal ligation was that NOTHING is 100% effective. The real point is that many on here have ASSUMED that these young people did not use birth control. We don’t know if they did or didn’t. And how dare you call my friends liars. You don’t know them & you have no basis to say such a thing. Just because it hasn’t been your experience, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen to them.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | December 31, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

ROFL, carlyonsue, you just don’t know when to stop with the fibbing! ROFL! Not only are the two messages exactly the same in substance, you typed some passages word for word, punctuation for punctuation, and even typed the very same word in UPPERCASE! Let’s compare the writing styles in more detail, shall we?
*emptied your 401k’s and your IRA’s = raided your 401ks and your IRAs
*put all of your money in a government fund = deposited your money in a government fund
*you will be BEGGING Sarah Palin to run for president! = you’ll be BEGGING Sarah Palin to run for president in 2012!
*Sarah Palin will seem like a genius = you will suddenly think she is VERY intelligent!
*the honeymoon with Barack Obama will end = your honeymoon with him will definitely be over
*calling for his impeachment! = calling for his impeachment!
BTW, I don’t keep a record of what everyone says; Google does that, and does it very efficiently.
Oh, and your claim that Obama said in a debate the he was going to put 401(k)s and IRAs in a government fund – do you remember that as distinctly as you remembered Katie Couric asking Palin sexist questions? ROFL!!!!

Posted by: S. Claus | January 1, 2009, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Why should we assume that they didn’t? You do know what they say about people who assume? All of your statistics in the world don’t mean a damn thing if they are in that .02% that gets pregnant anyway. I’m not sure why you put “experience” in quotes, other than you don’t believe me – but that’s not my problem, it’s yours.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 1, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

In the last few years, plenty of my closest friends have won the top prize in the Powerball Lottery. The odds were 146 million to 1 each time. But pay no attention to those astronomical odds, they don’t mean a damn thing. If my friends can win, anyone can. It’s wrong to ASSUME that you will lose; you must always keep in mind that you COULD win the big prize. So bet every last dollar you have on Powerball picks, because no one KNOWS who the next big winner will be. (It won’t be Bristol or Levi because Powerball isn’t available in Alaska. Of course they will be busy anyway tending to the miracle baby that ellsbells believes was just as likely to have been conceived whether contraceptives were in use or not.)

Posted by: WWW sharing a hypothetical experience | January 2, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am

The only 100% method of birth control is abstinence. The main reason birth control fails is not that they are used and fail, but because of imperfect use. Sarah Palin opposes abortion in all cases and opposes the use of birth control pills and condoms even among married couples. I hope that Bristol will not become a baby making machine. Since the birth of Sarah’s downs syndrome baby she has stated she would not be having any more children so I wonder what she and her husband will do to prevent that? Perhaps she is not opposed to surgical sterilization.

Posted by: andie | January 2, 2009, 9:39 am 9:39 am

andie, where are you getting your information about Palin’s views on contraceptives? In 2006 during the gubernatorial debates, she called discussion of condoms during sex ed “relatively benign,” and said she was pro-contraception.

Posted by: WWW | January 2, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am

WWW sharing a hypothetical experience – Did I EVER say it was a miracle baby? NO. All I said was that people should NOT assume what they couldn’t possibly know. It is rude, immature & quite frankly, makes the poster appear ignorant – as does putting words in other people’s mouths.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 3, 2009, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Back to my hypothetical experience. The husband of one of my friends purchased a Powerball Quick-Pick at the local drug store then gave it to her… and she got the big one! But there’s even more to the story. That same woman decided to try the Powerball again… this time she bought her own Quick-Pick at a convenience store. She won the jackpot a second time! But incredible events don’t stop here. Another of my many friends who have won the Powerball did so not once, not twice, but three times! If that’s not strange enough, this woman’s therapist advised her all along to continue playing Powerball in spite of a gambling problem. Go figure.
Now, certain ignorant accusers claim that my friends are probably winning due to sheer dumb luck. Nothing could be further from the truth. I was with my friends when they made their picks and saw for myself that they were following all directions and buying their tickets at the same time of day. The accusers also said that some of these women might be lying about their methods or, worse yet, implying they were receiving extra tickets on the side! How dare they!
Again, I say spend every last dollar on Powerball picks. Raid your children’s piggybanks if you must, just buy those tickets! Even with nearly incalculable odds, people SHOULD NOT ASSUME they won’t win. To make that assumption is rude, immature and ignorant because they cannot possibly KNOW they won’t win and win and win again! Trust me; statistics are meaningless when you win. And if you don’t believe my incredible experience, that’s your problem, not mine. Too bad Levi and Bristol can’t participate in the fun. Of course they will still be busy tending to the miracle baby that ellsbells believes was just as likely to have been conceived whether contraceptives were in use or not. (Note that the preceding sentence is not a quote; it is MY interpretation based on cumulative comments. With a plethora of pregnant friends who shouldn’t be, and as a part-time nonbeliever in statistics, ellsbells is a veritable miracle baby magnet, or miracle baby magnate maybe.

Posted by: WWW | January 3, 2009, 8:36 am 8:36 am

WWW -Show me EXACTLY where I used the word “miracle”? Someone falling into the small percentage of birth control failure is NOT a miracle. It is simply someone falling into the small percentage of birth control failure. And still, none of us knows one way or the other if these young people used any form of birth control and it is not up to us to ASSUME anything – nor is it any of our business.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 4, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

It doesn’t look like very many folks here have noticed, but….
The ONLY people who have “confirmed” the alleged birth of this baby Tripp have received their information by e-mail or telephone from another one of the extended family members.
One “witness” lives in Kennewick, Washington, most of two states and several Canadian provinces south of Wasilla AK — and the other “witness” is up on the North Slope oil fields, snowed in and far from civilization.
How weird is it that the first witness broke the news to celeb mag People, and the other called ABC? Did NO ONE at either of these entities think to ask any questions? Did they take the 3rd hand information as verified?
If this is today’s news reporting, I’m glad we have Internet blogs to get our factual information.

Posted by: Karen | January 4, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

When *I* used the word “miracle”, it was in the non-biblical sense, meaning “a wondrous or remarkable event or thing.” In my opinion, someone falling into the small percentage of birth control failure IS remarkable, and in the case of the woman who became pregnant after her husband’s vasectomy and her own tubal ligation, a wondrous event.
Using FDA statistics, there’s a 0% chance that Bristol Palin was using abstinence as a form of birth control. There’s only a 0.1% chance that Bristol was using the pill and using it correctly. There’s a 5% chance that she was using the pill, but, oops, wasn’t using it consistently. There’s an 85% – 95% chance that she wasn’t using birth control at all. (There are of course other birth control methods with somewhat different statistics.) Since Bristol hasn’t broached the subject herself, it’s a reasonable PRESUMPTION that she didn’t use birth control, based on the numbers.
Unfortunately for Bristol Palin, she was forced to ride her mother’s coattails from Alaska’s small public stage into the big spotlight. Her inability to control physical urges, and the circumstances surrounding her “sins” became fair fodder for public speculation. The same goes for Levi.

Posted by: WWW | January 5, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

WWW: I disagree with you! It is NOT fair what people have been saying about Bristol and Levi! A polititian’s family is NOT fair fodder for public speculation no matter whether their family is constantly in the public eye or not. Comments about their family should be off limits to the public because the public doesn’t vote for their family. They vote for the polititian. And another thing “public speculation” is putting it MILDLY what has happened to Bristol and Levi! Open public ridicule is more like it! The comments that some people have said about them have been downright nasty and hateful!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 5, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm

Why should a politician’s family receive special treatment? ANY staunchly religious family with extreme reproductive views whose daughter pops onto the scene, seventeen, unwed and pregnant… people are going to talk. The staunchly religious Palins with extreme reproductive views, who were all decked out down to their underwear by a $55,000 fashion consultant and paraded in front of America… people are going to talk and talk and talk and talk…

Posted by: WWW | January 5, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

Well, so much for that great apprenticeship job that Levi had. According to the Anchorage Daily News, Levi “has quit his North Slope oil field job over questions about his eligibility to work in an electrical apprenticeship program.” It seems that one must have a diploma to participate in the apprenticeship program. Levi’s father said his son always struggled with school and never got his diploma. He blames the media’s close scrutiny for his son’s decision to quit the job. “He has to do everything by the book now.”
God forbid they should have to play by the rules like ordinary people.

Posted by: Rudy | January 6, 2009, 5:07 am 5:07 am

WWW: People might talk but unless they are perfect themselves and unless they have a perfect family who has never committed a sin and never done anything wrong, they don’t have a right to talk! And as far as the clothing goes, you know as well as I do Sarah DID NOT shop for those clothes herself! When did she have time? She was either on the road or in the air traveling from rally to rally nearly 24hrs a day for over two months. On most days she was in three and sometimes four states. For two months just about the only time she wasn’t campaigning was when she was sleeping. Exactly when do you think she had time to shop? She didn’t buy those clothes and you know it! RNC aides bought them! The only thing that she did was give them their sizes and they did the rest. I doubt that she told them where to shop. It was probably the aides idea to shop at the most expensive stores because they thought a VP candidate should not wear cheap clothing. No doubt if Sarah had her way they would have bought the clothing in much less expensive stores. In fact she would have been very happy to just wear her own clothes and she said so! Also I haven’t heard if all of the clothing was retrieved or not, I haven’t heard anymore about it, but right after the election RNC aides were supposed to travel to Alaska and sort through Sarah and her family’s clothing and see that none of the clothing was kept. If that is true and if that was done then it’s time people forgave her for the clothing expenses especially if she kept none of it! She had nothing to do with the buying of it anyway! She couldn’t because she didn’t have time! All of that flack about the clothing was just another thing that the media used to smear her anyway.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 5:14 am 5:14 am

Rudy: The company that he worked for knew when they hired him that he didn’t have a diploma and yet they hired him anyway. Now they tell him that it’s their rules that all of their apprentices must have a high school diploma. That seems strange to me! They should have told him that when he applied for the job and they shouldn’t have hired him in the first place! I don’t blame him for quitting! It sounds to me like they were about to fire him anyway and that was just the excuse that they had.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 5:42 am 5:42 am

According to the ADN story, ASRC, who offers the apprenticeship program, issued a statement saying in part “The information provided by the applicant to the company is relied upon to be true and correct.” Levi’s father said his son never told ASRC he had a high school education when he really didn’t. The lack of a diploma was something that was simply overlooked as Levi transferred from the Valdez job to the Slope job. He also said “Sarah had nothing to do with him getting hired on the Slope. If there was any help getting him on up there, it was because of my associations and no one else’s.”
There is no indication that the company was about to fire Levi. Rather, it was a column in ADN’s Sunday newspaper that brought the diploma issue to the forefront and opened this latest can of worms.

Posted by: Rudy | January 6, 2009, 6:19 am 6:19 am

Calm down, countrygirl/carlyonsue, I didn’t say Sarah shopped for the clothes herself. Read my comment again. I said they were “decked out down to their underwear BY A $55,000 FASHION CONSULTANT.” According to a NY Times article: “The McCain campaign paid Lisa L. Kline, a New York stylist who appears from campaign finance records to have been Ms. Palin’s fashion consultant, $54,900 in mid-October.”
Palin’s father told the AP: “[Sarah] was just frantically … trying to sort stuff out. That’s the problem, you know, the kids lose underwear, and everything has to be accounted for.”
The Palins were all gussied up to be appealing commodities for the American public to savor and consume. As it turned out, a good number of American voters chewed them up then spat them out because of the bad taste. As a footnote, some of us believe in free speech even with all our imperfections.

Posted by: WWW | January 6, 2009, 8:05 am 8:05 am

I guess the ones who do the hiring at ASRC don’t listen to the news or read the newspapers or log on to the internet. The fact that Levi doesn’t have a high school diploma has been worldwide common knowledge since the Republican convention in September. It’s been all over the news media websites!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

WWW: I wonder who is paying for the Obama family’s hotel bill for the next two weeks in one of the fanciest four star hotels in Washington? I also wonder who paid for their recent vacation in Hawaii? I doubt that Barack paid for them! The taxpayers are probably the ones who paid for them but nothing has been said about that and he’s not even president yet! I also wonder who is really paying for the Obama girls tuition to that fancy exclusive private school? I doubt that their father is!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Rudy: If the fact that Levi didn’t have a diploma was something that was simply overlooked when he was transferred from Valdez to the slope then that was not his fault. They should be forced by law to keep him on as an apprentice because if he told them on his application that he didn’t have a diploma then he is not at fault. The fact that the information was overlooked was their mistake not his!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

countrygirl since you don’t believe anything that you have read, seen or heard how is anyone going to prove you’re wrong? Also Keith Johnston said his own position as an ASRC construction engineer accounts for any help his son received in landing work in the first place.

Posted by: andie | January 6, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

WWW: Have you read the latest on donations to the Obama campaign? You should read it! You might be enlightened on some things! It seems that not all of individual donations were within the legal limits!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

andie: He said that it might have. He didn’t say that it did. He did say that Sarah Palin had nothing to do with Levi receiving the job, though.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Actually, Sarah wrote a generic letter of reference which said in part “I have known Levi and his family for many years and am most impressed with Levi’s work ethic. Levi is organized, efficient, extremely competent, and will prove to be an excellent employee. Also, Levi’s physical strength and determination are assets that will be useful to your company.”
Whether or not the letter had any influence on the hiring of Levi remains to be seen.

Posted by: WWW | January 6, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

lol country-carlyonsue, I hope you’re not being serious about Obama using taxpayer bucks for his personal expenses. But if you are, run, don’t walk to Fox News and tell them of your suspicions. If there is ANYTHING to the story, they’ll be all over it like Sarah Palin’s helicopter over a herd of moose.

Posted by: WWW | January 6, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

WWW: You didn’t say whether you have read the latest about the individual donations to Obama’s campaign or not. You really should read it. David Rubin isn’t the only one who gave over the legal limit. There were many others. That is just the beginning of the information that is about to come out about the donations to the Obama campaign. Things are about to come out that could stop the whole inauguration!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

WWW: You should read “Funny Money: How Barack Obama Bought the White House for $668 Million” edition of Newsmax magazine. They are reporting that David Rubin’s donation to the Obama campaign is not the only one that went over the legal limit. They are reporting that there were many more.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Newsmax… isn’t that the super-conservative rag that publishes lots of bogus stories such as Bill Clinton having a secret son with a Little Rock, Arkansas, prostitute?
But I’m curious, if the inauguration will be stopped, who becomes president? What is the impeachment process in the case of a President Elect?
But then again, this blog may not be the right forum for such questions.

Posted by: WWW | January 6, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

WWW: Considering Bill Clinton’s past the idea that he might have a illegitimate son with a Little Rock prostitute is not immpossible! In fact it’s entirely possible! His “escapades” with other women are well known and you know it. Since Nancy Pelosi is the speaker of the house of representatives, she is third in line for the presidency. If the inauguration is stopped it’s possible that she may be asked to take the presidency and that would be worse than Obama! It is also possible that George W. Bush may have to continue on as president until a special election can be held. No one really knows what will happen if the inauguration is stopped because the United States has never faced that situation before that I know of.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 6, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

I propose that the name of this blog be changed to The Blog That Will Not Die.

Posted by: WWW | January 7, 2009, 1:34 am 1:34 am

countrygirl – If it were determined that Obama was ineligible to be sworn in, then Biden would become President. It is clear that would be the procedure. – Now if it had been determined before the Electoral College “met” Dec. 15th, that would have been another story all together.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 7, 2009, 8:24 am 8:24 am

www – pretty creative fairy tale – but next time, try not to plagiarize. Oh- and by the way, the definition of a miracle “an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.” So therefore, if Bristol & Levi were using ANY form of birthcontrol and the chances of getting pregnant were .000000000000000000000001% and she still got pregnant – NOT a miracle.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 7, 2009, 8:28 am 8:28 am

Ellsbells, you neglected to cite the source of your definition. Interesting, considering you brought up the subject of plagiarism. I found it anyway – you used the Ask online dictionary. But I said I used the word in its non-biblical sense, which means you must look BEYOND biblical definitions. In the Ask dictionary, definition #3 is: a wonder; marvel.
So let’s look up “wonder”:
something strange and surprising; a cause of surprise, astonishment, or admiration – That building is a wonder. It is a wonder he declined such an offer.
OR
miraculous deed or event; remarkable phenomenon.
Let’s also define marvel while we’re at it:
something that causes wonder, admiration, or astonishment; a wonderful thing; a wonder or prodigy – The new bridge is an engineering marvel.
And “remarkable:
notably or conspicuously unusual; extraordinary: a remarkable change.
OR
worthy of notice or attention.
So we don’t need to go to the .000000000000000000000001% level except in the supernatural biblical world. Here in the real world, 1 in 1,000 qualifies as a miracle – A REAL miracle baby.

Posted by: WWW | January 7, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am

WWW: You’re the one that brought him up in this conversation! I didn’t!

Posted by: countrygirl | January 7, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

OK, so your rule actually goes: Unless they are perfect themselves and unless they have a perfect family who has never committed a sin and never done anything wrong, they don’t have a right to talk, unless someone else brings up the subject first.
And if someone brings up a subject first, are you then allowed to expand on that subject or must you stay within original boundaries?

Posted by: WWW | January 7, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

“Bristol does indeed have higher family values than those who abort their babies.” – Wayne-O
I get the last word for this blog because I called it.
Last Word.
Amen

Posted by: Noz | January 7, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

WWW: I am saying that unless you have straightened up yourself and you are perfect and sinless and you have seen to it that your family is perfect then you shouldn’t criticize other people and their families. I admit I’m not perfect and neither is my family and, therefore, I don’t have the right to say anything more than what has been published all over the world for years. Bill Clinton is well known for his escapades with other women. That is no secret to anyone. And, to answer your last question, I do have a right to respond when someone makes a statement to me.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 7, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

Bill Clinton is well known as a womanizer. Certainly we know all the nasty details of the Monica affair. But does being a womanizer mean that a man also uses the services of prostitutes? DNA tests were allegedly done which put the prostitute story to rest. Supposing those tests were accurate, do you still have the right to make the leap from womanizing to prostitution, to illegitimate children?
Or how about when Newsmax and Rush Limbaugh reported that John Kerry flipped off a Vietnam vet in front of a bunch of children? Are two sources enough to start talking trash about Kerry’s middle finger and the locales in which he uses it?

Posted by: WWW | January 8, 2009, 2:38 am 2:38 am

WWW: I did not make a “leap” as you called it. My exact words were that I said it’s not impossible and that it is entirely possible. I DID NOT say that I knew for a fact that Bill Clinton had *** with a prostitute or that he had an illegitimate son with a prostitute. I said considering his past, it’s possible. You are trying to twist my words and add more to them than what I said.
I don’t know anything about the other incidents that you mentioned, therefore, I’m not going to comment on them. You are just trying to keep this argument going and I’m not going to bite this time. You and I need to just agree to disagree and let it go at that. We will never agree and you only want to argue so, therefore, I’m going to say goodbye to you and end this discussion.

Posted by: countrygirl | January 8, 2009, 3:46 am 3:46 am

Oh Boy! WabbaU and S Claus.
What a waste of chemical reactions.
Last Word.
May Liberals be tolerant of opposing view points in 2009
Amen

Posted by: Noz | January 8, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Sarah Palin is the biggest crybaby I have EVER seen! First she blamed the media for her problems. Then she blamed the McCain camp. Now, she blames class issues! She even had the chutzpah to issue a PRESS RELEASE about it, straight from the GOVERNOR’S OFFICE! LOL, check out this quote about Caroline Kennedy: “It’s going to be interesting to see how that plays out and I think that as we watch that we will perhaps be able to prove that there is a class issue here also that was such a factor in the scrutiny of my candidacy versus, say, the scrutiny of what her candidacy may be.”
This, and a ton of other waa-waa crap, can be found on the State of Alaska’s government web site. What the hell is this woman thinking?

Posted by: WWW | January 9, 2009, 4:04 am 4:04 am

She’s right!

Posted by: Sooner | January 9, 2009, 4:31 am 4:31 am

No kidding. She’s as far right as they come.

Posted by: Later | January 9, 2009, 4:45 am 4:45 am

“Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says CBS News anchor Katie Couric and comic actress Tina Fey have been “exploiting” her.”
–she certainly gave them the ammunition since she brought this on herself. Is she ever going to just fade away or isn’t there a photo op or interview she won’t use to stay in the spotlight? She should work on improving her abysmal record on the Environment, Native Rights and Tribal Sovereignty, and Domestic Violence during her years as Alaska governor. She is also going to hate that photo of her pouting-pass the tissues please.

Posted by: andie | January 9, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am

The main stream medias need to back off. Sarah is the real deal! She is my kind of folk!
Go Sarah 2012!

Posted by: Jimbo Billy Bob Bubba Joe Darrell Earl John Boy McCoy | January 11, 2009, 5:53 am 5:53 am

Last Word
May Libs and Neocons learn to live in peace during this New Year of 2009.
Amen
: o )

Posted by: Noz | January 13, 2009, 8:03 am 8:03 am

When it comes to the rumors about Trig being Bristol’s baby, all the press did was repeat what the McCain camp said.
According to Media Matters:
Contrary to Palin’s telling, most media outlets only addressed that story after the McCain campaign called attention to it on September 1, when it revealed that Palin’s unwed 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant. The campaign insisted it had to go public with the news in order to deflect the “disturbing, nasty smears” being spread online.
Only after Republicans threw a spotlight onto the online conspiracy theory did the press make references to it. And once the McCain campaign claimed liberal bloggers had spread the rumor, the press dutifully repeated the claim -
[Bristol] is pregnant — a revelation the Alaska governor made public yesterday to refute rumors spread by liberal bloggers that she’d faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her daughter’s earlier one. (New York Post)
The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child. (Reuters)
The announcement came after a swirl of rumors by liberal bloggers that the governor’s fifth child, who was born in April, was in fact her daughter’s. (The New York Times)

Posted by: WWW | January 14, 2009, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Hey WabbaU, almost nobody cares about any of that rumor stuff.
God Bless Bristol for having her baby.
Since she was raised right I doubt that abortion ever was an option for her.
Last Word.
May God bless all the little children.
Amen.
: o )

Posted by: Noz | January 20, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am

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