Jan 30, 2009 4:04pm

Banker Bonuses: Any Way to Get Them Back?

ABC News’ Reynolds Holding reports: President Obama called Wall Street bonuses paid by bailout recipients "the height of irresponsibility." Sen. Christopher Dodd promised to use "every possible legal means" to claw them back. Powerful politics, but legally speaking, it’s tough to imagine that the senator has a leg to stand on. Here are the legal approaches he could pursue, none of them a likely winner: Sue for Fraudulent Conveyance. New York and other states allow a creditor to force a debtor to get back certain payments that could hurt the creditor’s interests. So the government could sue the banks if they didn’t have enough capital at the time they paid the bonuses AND the recipients didn’t actually earn the bonuses i.e., the banks didn’t receive "reasonably equivalent value" for them. Even if the feds could overcome the capitalization hurdle (Merrill Lynch and Bank of America weren’t considered undercapitalized), it would be very tough to show that the bankers didn’t earn the compensation that they negotiated with their employer. Sue for Securities Fraud. The feds would have to show that bank executives somehow misled their board of directors about the bank’s financial condition, its employees’ performance or some other important fact that led to the payment of bonuses. It’s very unlikely the directors didn’t know what trouble the bank was in.

Demand Bailout Money Back. Officials could simply demand that the banks pay back bailout money in the amount of the bonuses. The problem is that there doesn’t seem to be any legal basis in each bailout agreement for doing so, and it would be difficult to take back bailout money that the government determined the bank still needed to survive. The banks could argue that the feds were guilty of laches: a legal term for the defense that the feds waited too long to say the bailout money couldn’t be used for bonuses. They could have made that a condition of the bailout in the first place. Pass a Law Requiring Repayment. The government could simply order bankers to return their bonuses, but that would almost certainly be an unconstitutional taking under the Fifth Amendment. Order the Banks to Claw Back the Bonuses. Banks could ask bankers to return their bonuses, maybe in return for the prospect of a bigger payday later, but requiring the bankers to cough up the money would probably violate their employment agreements as well as state wage and hour laws. Dodd’s best hope, it seems, would be to whip up public anger at the bonus payments so that the banks are shamed into returning a portion of the bailout money and agreeing not to pay bonuses while the money is outstanding. That’s no doubt what he had in mind in the first place.

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The Height of Irresponsibility,
Mmmmmmmmmmm… I think that best characterizes the American People electing this Moron!!!
Geo. Washington(I was REAL CHANGE)

Posted by: mark | January 30, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

I love that pic of Zerobama and the Secretary of Tax Cheats!!!
Tax Cheat(thinking): Wow, I can’t believe he said that. I hope he doesn’t bring up Tax Cheats! Please, Lord, Don’t Bring up Tax Cheats!!! I want my Mommy!!!

Posted by: mark | January 30, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Do these people have any shame?
Just don’t do business with these banks.
Boycott them UNTIL they do right.

Posted by: hit them where it hurts | January 30, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Publish the names and photographs of the people suspected of taking these huge bonuses. Maybe the shame will make them return the money.

Posted by: rod-the-farmer | January 30, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Absolutely, publish their names and pictures. The people who took the bonus and the people who gave the bonus need to be on the ‘wall of shame’ for all to see. There something to be said for peer pressure. If WE are the government, then WE need to take a stand now.
They had enough for the bonus money; they just ran out when it came to them begging for the bailout money.
How interesting.

Posted by: htwih | January 30, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

NoBo is a NoGo. He hasn’t made that decision yet for an executive order.
Time is ticking.

Posted by: htwih | January 30, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

The banks have proven that they no longer are financially sound or fiscally sane. It is time for the government to nationalize them, negotiate a reduction of salaries and bonuses, and re-start the lending instutions.

Posted by: Jerald Clayton | January 30, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

If the bonuses can’t be taken back legally in exchange for bail-out money, then publish the names of those who gave and those who received it. Then send Diane Sawyer after them!

Posted by: Tom | January 30, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

Chris Dodd seems to like to be free with other people’s money. I’d love to know who contributed to the establishment of the Thomas Dodd school of government at the University of Connecticut which has the dubious distinction of being the only School of Government named after a Senator who was defeated for re-election after a Senate censure for financial misconduct. I’d love to know who the contributors were, what businesses were they in and what favors, if any,they got?

Posted by: David | January 31, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Let’s remember it was BUSH that pushed for these bailouts. Google the names and political contributions of these greedy individuals and see to whom they made political contributions.

Posted by: blackrattler | January 31, 2009, 1:13 am 1:13 am

It is easier to put the blame on someone else. Pres. Obama voted for the money with no strings attached.

Posted by: Lizzie | January 31, 2009, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Banks are out of control.My credit card limit was cut from $20,000 to $2,000.My interest rate was increased from 9.2% to 27%. Why? Heck if I can find out.When I called them on it they said it was not possible to disclose their internal decisions.I have banked with Citi Bank for over 10 years, and have been an excellent client.We should pay off our cards and buy with cash!

Posted by: madder-than-a-hatter | January 31, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

NoBo needs to make an Executive order and freeze the bank accounts of the bonus recipients and then transfer the money back to the government.
Figure out the legalities afterward.
The IRS does this sort of thing everyday to normal tax paying americans.
The government can do this to the Wall Street Gang no problem.

Posted by: Noz | January 31, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

I think all the assets. homes (many of these executive bankers have two or three homes), priceless art, vehicles, jewelry, etc. should be frozen assets by the government, sold & this money paid back to their companies for the money given for the bailout of their banks or companies. Many of the people doing business with these executives lost everything they had worked all their lives for, like savings & retirement. After the executives & their companies were bailed out, many of these same people took exotic trips & Citicorp had a $50 million airplane that was been built for them, when this was publicized on National News, Citicorp said they were not going to take delivery of the airplane. They will probably wait “till the dust settles” & then take possession of that airplane. How can we citizens of the United States continue to “be slapped in the face by these large companies & politicans”?

Posted by: Shirley | January 31, 2009, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Hope this new president can stop those Bush buddies on the Wall Street from stealing billions of tax payers’ money by using the freehand given by the Bush administration. Thank you, President Obama!

Posted by: cbs_bull | February 2, 2009, 4:25 am 4:25 am

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