By David Schoetz

Jan 27, 2009 11:52pm

Closing Arguments: Obama’s Bipartisan Play

President Obama met behind closed doors today on Capitol Hill with House and Senate Republicans. He appealed to the lawmakers to put aside party politics and support his economic stimulus plan — an $825 billion combination of tax cuts and public works spending. But Republicans want greater tax cuts and less public spending, particularly on projects they consider wasteful. And before Obama arrived, GOP leaders urged members to reject the new president’s proposal unless significant changes are made. So tonight, we ask: Is this economic crisis the time to put politics aside? Or are the Republicans right to say "no" to Obama’s plan? Tell us what you think.

User Comments

Of course the Republicans want more tax cuts – continue the policies that helped create the economic disaster we now face!

Posted by: Martha | January 28, 2009, 12:10 am 12:10 am

Yes.
It’s time to get money flowing through the economic pipelines. Get people working. Get people able to spend. Whoever wants to stand in the way of enabling the general public worker to advance: woooooe be it.

Posted by: bbear | January 28, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am

If bipartisan politics cannot be put aside now, when? In my opinion, there is never an appropriate time for partisan politics. Let’s get on with what’s best for restoring the dignity and well-being of our country and all Americans.

Posted by: SoonerCat | January 28, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am

The republicans are fulfilling their role by questioning administration proposals. Checks and balances are good. Just maybe Obama does not have it perfectly correct.

Posted by: Bob Harrris | January 28, 2009, 12:12 am 12:12 am

the republicans are right to say “no” to Obama’s plan if they disagree that it is the best thing to do for the country. That is the beauty of our system. We can disagree. I don’t think the solution is to spend more taxpayer money.

Posted by: Tamara | January 28, 2009, 12:12 am 12:12 am

Trust Obama

Posted by: Sue | January 28, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am

The stimulus plan looks pretty good to me and it looks good at our state level: NC .
I’m glad President Obama’s not spending more on tax cuts. I feel he has compromised on productive investments too much already with the current level of planned tax cuts.
It’s not clear the current Republican leadership in the House will agree to anything reasonable.

Posted by: jill | January 28, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am

This is way too much money to spend without first studying the effects on the future. The huge amounts of money that FDR spent did not get us out of the depression. Rather, it made things worse according to a recently published study at a CA university. It was WWII that actually brought us out of the depression.

Posted by: M.Jahn | January 28, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Trust….but verify!

Posted by: Bob | January 28, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Republicans are right to say “NO” to Obama’s plan to further drive us into debt. All Obama’s public works have to do with Big Government Welfare and discourage personal responsibility.

Posted by: sugar5802 | January 28, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am

Hell no they shouldn’t “go along”…..Someone needs to stop this from getting out of hand. Add a Trillion dollars to the debt? Then what? What happens when that doesn’t work? They’ll spend another 350 billion soon and I’m sure they’ll find a way to bring that up to a trillion without thinking too hard about it.
Come on, where is this money coming from?These guys are going to put the car companies out of business, they’re going to destroy the banking system. The government does not create anything but dependents.
My God please stop them, someone!

Posted by: william Skrainski | January 28, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am

I think the Republicans should hold their gound. I also don’t think we should have bailed out the banks. Citigroup is buying a $50 million dollar jet for it’s corporate executives and they also keep raising the interest rate on their credit cards such as Home Depot, Sears, etc. And we people are already having a hard time paying their bills at it is. What Obama needs to do is put restrictions on the interest rates the banks can charge, not to mention the cost of late fees, over limit fees. How do they expect people to pay their cards off if they continue to raise and add more fees. I do realize that people put themselves in those situations, but everyone is struggling. Give us a break.

Posted by: Mary | January 28, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

I don’t know why Boehner et al are stuck advocating strategies that have been tried and failed, failed, failed. I honestly can’t believe that Republicans really believe what they’re saying. It’s a very dangerous kind of posturing…and confirms that Obama probably was the only one with the vision to get us as far as we’re going to be able to go..

Posted by: cbadc | January 28, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Republicans must might against this plan, It will do nothing for immediate help to the economy and put us further in debt while using our money for pure political purposes.

Posted by: Marilyn Harris | January 28, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

William. WAy to go. Agree 100%

Posted by: Bob | January 28, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Put aside party values? No!! Obama continues to blast Bush. He is willing to continue the KILLING of over 50 million human lives (our babies); wiping out a generation of Americans. Planned Parenthood hurts African Americans, too, yet these people continue to support Obama when he supports the cause that hurt his race.

Posted by: Becky White | January 28, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am

obama needs to go right to the people if republican’s only want to protect there big businesses. we are going to change things.
the republicans are slowing things down and its going to anger there constituants if they know whats going on.

Posted by: adam jones | January 28, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am

We need TWO political viewpoints debated in Washington, not one. I don’t want Republicans and Democrats to come together if that means coming together to do the wrong thing. Republicans must voice their opinions, as well as Democrats, even if their opinions are contentious and controversial.

Posted by: Matthew Scott | January 28, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am

The Republicans are right to be cautious, all of Obamas plans will have to be paid for by taxpayer money. We need tax cuts not more taxes and that is where the funds will come from. Also, no more bailouts-there is no accountability and they keep giving money out and its being spent on bonuses for the CEO’s. With our economy in the dire straits it is in, how can the president even think of spending any money on resodding the Mall-try some grass seed and water, or put it to gravel. People are losing their jobs-they don’t need the Mall resodded!

Posted by: mary hollenbeck | January 28, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Obama’s stimulus package is useless. It’s a spending package and we’ll never get out of this mess by spending more.
It’s a bipartisan problem because both parties have spent too much. The end result will be that the only sector of America that will fare well will be the Federal Government and if you’re not on the Fed gravy train, you’ll be out of luck.

Posted by: Kathy | January 28, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am

I believe politics needs to back a back seat. Our country is hurting. Unfortunately, these well paid politicians don’t realize or feel the pain of the working public. Let them lose their jobs or lose their home, I like to know then their priorities. Let our president lead the country…….we are at rock bottom, at lease daggling over the bottom.

Posted by: Karen | January 28, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Republicans need to remember what they did to help create the situation the nation is in now, and help the new president (the one that did not cause this) pass this stimulus package. Can’t we put parties aside and look at the nation as one and fix this mess we’re in. I make too much money to qualify for any government help, but not enough to pay for the rising cost of living. Enough is enough!

Posted by: Stacy | January 28, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am

I THINK THIS IS THE WORST THING WE CAN DO. THE REPUBLICANS BETTER STAND STRONG. OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE ONE BILLION TO ACORN. AFTER WHAT THEY DID DURING THE ELECTION THEY SHOULD B DISOLVED. IF OBAMA HAS HIS WAY THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET. NOT BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, BUT BECAUSE OF HIS IMMORALITY,(FUNDING OF ABORTION, AND GAY MARRIAGES) AND LACK OF EXPIERENCE. I FEAR FOR OUR SAFETY. THANKS FOR THE OPP. TO SHARE WITH YOU.

Posted by: JERRY | January 28, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am

We have to support President Obama and
give him a chance. He is our best hope
out of this situation we are in. If he
fails, as many Republicans hope, we fail
as a country.

Posted by: carlraney | January 28, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I agree with the Republicans. They need to remember we the people sent them to stand up for us. I am happy they will stand up for what they belive in and I hope they do not back down. I do belive we need help but the country will have to wait another 4 years before we get it.

Posted by: Regina | January 28, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

No, Martha, our economic disaster was perpetuated by Pelosi, Franks and Dodd. The republicans can’t stop this train; but they can register their constituents dissatisfaction with selling us all down the river. Let’s hope you and I both keep our jobs. We can and will, if our employers are allowed to make money. But you can’t have high taxes on business and expect to have low unemployment.

Posted by: Karen | January 28, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Republicans are simply belly-achers because they’re full of sour grapes. It’s opposition for the sake of opposition. If a Republican had come up with the plan, they’d back it 100% AND he’d be up for sainthood.

Posted by: Meme Bobinski | January 28, 2009, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Yes the Republicans are right. Most of America does not want this. It’s to bad that they are afraid to tell thier elected officials. This “package” doe’s not help anyone except big government spending and a pathway to taking away all of our rights and money. If the Republicans did not stand up to this plan that is sure to fail, they would be the scape goats for the democrats when it fails. Obama knows this and everyone will be up for election. He needs to keep his majority and act like he is partisan. Please give me a break.
Just another person with an opinion.

Posted by: Celeste Kowis | January 28, 2009, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Republicans are right. Let’s hope Obama sees the light-no more spending.

Posted by: Claudia | January 28, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am

$800B is more money than I can even imagine. If all 300M people in the US got a share, that would be over $2500 per person. I could use some of that cash. If the average consumer is exercising some restraint in spending, which seems like a normal thing to do during a recession, then why can’t congress? What exactly is so urgent that they have to pass this bill tomorrow? Why can’t they pass it in stages? Why should we have new grass on the national mall when home owners are sacrificing having new lawns outside their homes. I’ve not yet been convinced that this is the best way to help the retail and real estate industries.

Posted by: wsquared11 | January 28, 2009, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Karen: “No, Martha, our economic disaster was perpetuated by Pelosi, Franks and Dodd.”
Of course, never mind the Republican control of Congress and the Presidency followed by their record number of filibusters the past two years to keep their policies in place. It’s Pelosi’s fault (at least Republicans are finally passing the buck to someone other than Bill Clinton).
Do the Republicans, in power for the last 8 years (6 of them with all three branches of government), ever take responsibility for ANYTHING?

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am

It is such a shame that so many are willing to put faith in our govt spending anyone’s hard earned money. If this were a corp it would have been shut down a long time ago. Taking money from the private sector has never and will never stimulate an economy. The republicans must stand firm and not do what they have done the last few years, which is spend like liberals. Why are we so afraid of free market which we can always control by not patronizing a badly run company but eager to give it all to people who make nothing, produce nothing and use money to just get themselves reelected.

Posted by: Elizabeth | January 28, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am

The Republicans are correct in rejecting the Democrats plan to gain Republican support in a doomed, foolish plan. What the Democrats are really trying to do is create a class of voters who owe everthing they have to government handouts. For instance, BHO’s ACORN, under a different name , is going to be greatly enriched.

Posted by: Jim Kipp | January 28, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am

The Republicans are correct in rejecting the Democrats plan to gain Republican support in a doomed, foolish plan. What the Democrats are really trying to do is create a class of voters who owe everthing they have to government handouts. For instance, BHO’s ACORN, under a different name , is going to be greatly enriched.

Posted by: Jim Kipp | January 28, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am

I feel we are being “rushed” again into giving away our money. There are too many giveaways in this mess. Too many projects that WILL NOT help stimulate the economy. Not enough going to the people and small business but to the ones who caused this disaster. Are we to trust Congress with our money again? I feel Congress should get the views and opinions of unbiased financial geniuses who know something about money–not just these power seeking congressmen who do not have enough knowledge of such critical matters. After all, they just want to spend and spend–no matter where the money lands and want to push this through so we have no time to protest. It’s just yet another way to screw the people.

Posted by: Joyce | January 28, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am

BECKY WHITE:
Becky, Becky, Becky…
Go buy a brain.

Posted by: Becky's Mom | January 28, 2009, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Elizabeth: “If this were a corp it would have been shut down a long time ago.”
Right. The most powerful nation in the history of the world. An unprecedented standard of living. Near total literacy. Complete elimination of starvation. Unprecedented equality and opportunity.
Yet you see it as a total failure that should be shut down. Your ignorance of the accomplishments of this government, this country, as imperfect as it is, would disgust the Founding Fathers.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:30 am 12:30 am

No. We have been waiting atleast 8 years for some leadership with a back bone and bold ideas to take shape in this country. The republicans are still counting on the trickle down theory to work. It is obvious that technique did not work. I am willing to go along with tax cuts to business if it is directly linked to hiring workers and not stuffed in ceo and shareholders’ pockets. That is enough of a concession to them.

Posted by: jane | January 28, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am

President Obama is right to listen to the Republicans as a matter of courtesy, but he doesn’t owe them any further consideration. Eight years of failed Republican policies is what brought us to this crisis. Republicans always say “no” until they get everything just their way, so listen to them so as not to create open warfare with them and move on with the plan. Don’t ask the people who created the crisis to fix it.

Posted by: cindy | January 28, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Posted by: william Skrainski | January 28, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am

It is not partisan to stand up for what you think is right. I don’t think that throwing money (which we don’t have)at this will solve the problem. History has shown that tax cuts are the way to put people to work and get those who are working to spend more. I hope that the Republicans will have enough back bone to stand their ground.

Posted by: Carl Warren | January 28, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am

absolutely, NO to this huge spending. I do not want my children and grand-children to be strapped with this outrageous debt. Give more tax cuts and watch wall street and the economy turn around.

Posted by: nash | January 28, 2009, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Joyce: “Too many projects that WILL NOT help stimulate the economy.”
Name a few. As already pointed out, things like sodding the National Mall would actually serve as a pretty good stimulus – local labor, local materials (you don’t import sod from China), local business, even the heavy machinery is likely local (and Caterpillar is really hurting right now). A good way to maintain a park and keep a lot of Americans in work and through a bit of the recession. But does reality and those jobs matter if there are partisan points to be made by railing about ‘pork’ and willfully not thinking?

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Dear Dear Obama you have all the old poker players from Clinton how can anything be new or different watch your back the ship is in danger this mess is caused by the same group you seek help the fox is still in charge of the chickens.God bless America!!

Posted by: rukidding | January 28, 2009, 12:36 am 12:36 am

The Republicans need to get out of the way. The only thing that they can think of is to continue down the same path that they’ve been on for the last 8 years, the same thinking, or lack thereof, that has paved the way for our present disaster. It’s time for new ideas and bold action. In times of deep recession/depression, the gov’t needs to invest in something to create jobs and jump-start the economy. Why not invest in those things which we sorely need anyway and which have been neglected for decades, just as Obama has suggested? It’s time.

Posted by: Bel Gazou | January 28, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am

nash: “I do not want my children and grand-children to be strapped with this outrageous debt. Give more tax cuts and watch wall street and the economy turn arou”
You do realize the tax cuts being proposed add the same to the deficit and saddle your children with the same debt?
Think!

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am

jhw539
Government jobs do not stimulate the economy. The government does not create a product to turn a profit….It takes profit away from the individual!

Posted by: william Skrainski | January 28, 2009, 12:38 am 12:38 am

I agree with Jane, President Obama is good to listen for the sake of any courtesty, but they brought us to this mess, and I believe it is time for them to get behind his program, for the good of all Americans.

Posted by: Lillian Santiago | January 28, 2009, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Put $20,000.00 in the hands of each household and let democracy work.It would be a lot cheaper and show results a lot sooner.I hope the repubicans don’t give in to the pressure!

Posted by: Grandma | January 28, 2009, 12:40 am 12:40 am

william Skrainski: Your links have NOTHING to do with the derivatives and the breakdown of asset valuation that led to the real estate bubble and banking collapses. Even Fannie and Freddie were late to the bubble game – and if their collapse was the only problem, we’d have started pulling out the recession months ago.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:42 am 12:42 am

Anyone please, tell me what exactly happened to the $350,000,000,000 this bipartisan congress has already borrowed and spent? Does President Obama or the Congress know? The clueless media?
Also, if we’re in “the worst economic crisis since the great depression” why was it necessary to spend $200,000,000 on an inauguration, during which our president and chief justice could not even get the “sacred oath” straight? $200,000,000 would have covered alot of unemployment checks!
Think of it, Obama is only the third president who had to repeat the oath. The other two were Coolidge and Arthur, not the sharpest knives in the presidental drawers. Bad omen?

Posted by: Bill Weber | January 28, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Grandma: “Put $20,000.00 in the hands of each household and let democracy work.It would be a lot cheaper ”
Based on projections from the last census, there are about 111,000,000 households in the US. $20,000 x 111,000,000 = 2,220,000,000,000.
That is approximately DOUBLE the suggested stimulus, it would NOT be “a lot cheaper.”
How can there be a rational debate when one side seems to just flat out not care about reality?

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:48 am 12:48 am

Another thought, Obama needs two republican senators to pull out this package. All of the republicans need to stand up and fight. I only have a little bit of money left in my preferred stocks. I will take my money out and fight to put every repuplican out of office that votes yes on this package.

Posted by: Celeste Kowis | January 28, 2009, 12:50 am 12:50 am

Bill Weber: “Anyone please, tell me what exactly happened to the $350,000,000,000 this bipartisan congress has already borrowed and spent?”
The money was spent by the Administration of President Bush, as the Congress specified to prevent bank failures. Good luck trying to figure out how Bush screwed it up – many people still don’t know exactly how he screwed up Iraq this badly. Or even what happened to the budget SURPLUS the budget had when he took over (and got a Republican Congress within a year).

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:51 am 12:51 am

The republicans are only half right in rejecting Obama and the democrats’ plan to stimulate our economy. Not enough is being proposed or done to fix the root causes of the current economic mess. Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it. Both parties need to clean house of their own members who are central to all this mess. Congress (House and Senate) should start by putting themselves at economic risk before they saddle my (and Obama’s) children and grandchildren with insurmountable national debt. Their salary should be tied to the average American’s, (including the unemployed); they should not be able to vote themselves a raise. Their guaranteed retirements should be a thing of the past. If they are the guardians of Social Security and our budget and are supposed to be “of the people, by the people and for the people” they should stop putting themselves on pedestals. Economic recovery will come when confidence is rebuilt through a sound economy without the gimmicks and short cuts that got us here. Too many in Congress are more interested in ensuring their own re-election or lining their own pockets than in actually serving those whom they were elected to serve. All pork barrel spending must end. It is irresponsible to give money without ironclad accountability, without considering who will ultimately pay for it and without fixing the lending and credit laws, and securities and monetary fund oversights. Mr Obama does little to give me confidence when his choice for Treasury cannot get his own taxes right. I am no accountant but would be surprised if I had no taxes to pay! There is little confidence in the government fixing this mess as long as it is more of the same in Washington. Obama, change; only the names have changed!

Posted by: Tim Close | January 28, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am

jwh Tax cuts only bring about the same result if spending exceeds income. Funny we are told how bad that is for us and told how to tighten our belt but noone ever thinks the govt should cut their spending. We here that we cant let people suffer by having the govt give away less but never here about the ones suffering who have to put up more money. As long as we keep rewarding failure and punishing success we will keep spiraling downward. We keep propping up failing companies by taking money from successful ones. We take money from those who work and give it to those who dont. People that buy houses they cant afford are bailed out while those who buy ones they can lose value in their homes and then have to add insult to injury by giving money to the neighbor that screwed it all up to start with

Posted by: Elizabeth | January 28, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Stop Nancy Pelosi’s Taxpayer Funded Payoff Scheme
January 27, 2009 | Refer a Friend
Dear Becky,
Exactly what kind of stimulus did Speaker Nancy Pelosi have in mind? That’s a question more Americans should be asking now that details are trickling in about the controversial $825 billion “economic recovery” package. $200 million for lawn care in Washington, D.C., $360 million to potentially be used to put on transsexual beauty pageants and erotic art shows. These are a few examples in the $825 BILLION (and counting!), over 1,588 page stimulus bill. Speaker Nancy Pelosi argues this bill would stimulate the economy, however only 7 percent of the legislation actually goes towards infrastructure – the rest of the bill reads like a taxpayer funded payoff to groups that have supported liberal Democrats’ interests.
And what a pay off! ACORN, the long controversial group that purposefully tried to muck up last year’s elections to benefit the Democrats is being rewarded by Nancy Pelosi with potentially $4.19 BILLION in taxpayer funds. And more than 10 percent of the proposal-$87 billion-would be directed to groups like Planned Parenthood! The country’s recession is crippling families, and the Democrats’ solution is spending billions of dollars on contraception?
On the latest “This Week” program on ABC, George Stephanopoulos pressed Speaker Pelosi for an explanation. She implied that making sure there are less children is a great way to stimulate the economy! Meanwhile she helped stop an amendment to the bill that would have protected parental rights!
Contact your Representative today to vote against H.R. 1, the so called “American Recovery & Reinvestment Act of 2009″.

Posted by: Becky White | January 28, 2009, 12:54 am 12:54 am

The democratic party has been in charge of the house and the senate for the last two years ! Why do people blame Bush,when it was Reed and Pelosi that caused all these problems!

Posted by: Jane | January 28, 2009, 12:56 am 12:56 am

The Republicans are wise to avoid government spending. History has shown that government spending has only prolonged the effects of recession. Studies show that this was so even with Roosevelt’s “New Deal”. During Reagan’s tenure, we discovered that budget cuts in line with reduced government spending motivated/produced economic growth. We’ve not experienced such reduced gov’t spending since. Even Bush, although cut the budget, did not cut gov’t spending. Truth is, the economy cannot sustain a large amount of growth over a long period of time – recession was inevitable. If you look at the Dow since inception, you can see the large growth that took place before the crash. This large growth was primarily due to easy(loose) credit. The best and simplest thing to due is reduce gov’t spending and cut taxes – even a caveman could do it. Recent study was released which dealt with business in China. The study revealed that the main reason companies moved operations to China was primarily due to low taxes. Another study revealed that the poorest nations had the highest taxes and most social programs and the same was true for states in the US. If you need help locating these studies, let me know and I will try to locate them. I, like many, had hoped Obama would be more willing to listen to wisdom, but it appears he has already begun to fail us. I noticed his satisfaction polls have dropped more in the first week than any presidents that I can remember, but I haven’t given up on him yet.

Posted by: Brent | January 28, 2009, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Whether we invest in war or invest in rebuilding the country, it is the investment which will pull us out of this deep recession. FDR’s biggest mistake was to bow to Republican pressure to try to balance the budget and pull away from domestic investment during a depression. WWII lifted us out of the depression because we again invested in putting people back to work but this time making war material instead of building roads and schools. The point is to invest in putting people back to work to jump-start the economy.
The Republican mantra of tax breaks to the wealthy hasn’t worked in the past and certainly will not work now. Providing bailouts to the auto industry to produce cars no one can buy or bailing out banks who refuse to lend is pointless. People who are back at work will invest in cars as well as other goods and services, thereby stimulating the economy.

Posted by: Bel Gazou | January 28, 2009, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Elizabeth: Interesting collection of talking points, but could you offer any REAL, FACTUAL examples? I don’t know of ANY home owner who has been bailed out – although I heard that one bank postponed foreclosures scheduled for December until after the holidays. Is that what you mean by bailed out? And where SPECIFICALLY do you want to see government cut? Eliminate every cent spent on NASA to save 0.58% (and gut a historically very productive innovation pump)?

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 12:59 am 12:59 am

Politics aside please. We are one nation in the short and long term with a common interest, particularly now in a time of global crisis. If not cooperation and compromise do we continue to be a nation divided, or worse? Let us embrace the opportunity with a new administration to be the world leader that we have historicaly been and will continue to be.

Posted by: CJ | January 28, 2009, 1:02 am 1:02 am

Brent: “During Reagan’s tenure, we discovered that budget cuts in line with reduced government spending motivated/produced economic growth.”
Are you seriously referencing Reagan, the father of the multi-trillion dollar national debt era, while preaching for budget cuts and balanced budgets? REALITY EXISTS – look it up for goodness sake. The only administration that added more to the national debt was Bush II.
I know schools say to worry about self esteem and all that rot, but this level of irrationality and ignorance should be embarrassing.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 1:03 am 1:03 am

Stop making more debt. The tax cut now makes the best sense. … We can thank the Democrats for the housing mess thanks to Bill Clinton, as I understand it. We can also thank the Democrates for the raping of Social Security funds for other ‘projects’. … Politicians got us into this mess, and frankly, they should be cutting their own salaries, benefits and retirement accounts.

Posted by: History Buff | January 28, 2009, 1:05 am 1:05 am

Checked yesterday, checked today-Obama is still an idiot.

Posted by: Sluggo | January 28, 2009, 1:07 am 1:07 am

Republicans need to shut up. We’ve done it their way the past 8 years, and look where we are.

Posted by: vicki | January 28, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am

The beginning of this economic collapse started during Reagan’s tenure, when the “Depository Institution Deregulation & Monetary Control Act of 1980″ was passed. This lead, in the late ’80′s, to the S & L collapse and then the first stock market crash since 1929. The biggest coup de grace came in 1999 when Phil Gramm and McCain pushed for Gramm’s bill the “Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999″ which removed parts of the “Glass-Steagall Act of 1933″ which had been put in place to control speculation. (“Modernization” of protective legislation as though human nature and the propensity for greed had somehow changed since 1933.) This allowed banks to get involved in all kinds of areas which they had been denied previously, leading to a kind of bankers 10 Card Monte, giving us the present mortgage crisis. Not finished screwing the public (us “whiners”) and providing windfalls for his cronies, in 2000, Phil Gramm also sneaked in his bill, the “Commodity Futures Modernization Act”, into an 11,000 page appropriations bill. Warren Buffett called this bill “financial WMD”. Even Alan Greenspan admitted during his testimony before the Senate hearings on 10/23/08, that he had pushed for deregulation of the finance industry because didn’t think that banks would have become so greedy after deregulation.
China is a popular place for manufacturers to set-up shop because of the really low wages and lack of regulation. Now that Bush has put us into trillions of debt to China for his unnecessary war, we are awash in toxic and shoddy goods from China.

Posted by: Bel Gazou | January 28, 2009, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Cut Taxes, Not Children
When President Obama said the stimulus bill would improve “infrastructure,” he neglected to mention that all roads lead to Planned Parenthood. In what is proving to be a wildly unpopular move, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) injected their radical ideas about population control into the ballooning economic recovery plan. Their plan called for the bulk of an $87 billion state Medicaid expansion to be used help people, especially young teens, get their hands on more birth control. According to CNS News, the White House is denying that the “family planning” push was Obama’s idea. In fact, there was such outcry by groups like FRC that the President backed away from his personal support for these programs and called on his party to drop the provision. Late news reports have indicated that Congressional Democrats will bow to his request. If true, it’s a resounding victory for our movement.
However, the debate does underscore just how much influence Rep. Obey holds over the appropriations process. In today’s New York Times, the twenty-term congressman is featured as the architect of this stimulus plan. As a gatekeeper of our tax dollars, he must hear from you that funding “family planning” programs that promote abortion is not an acceptable use of your money. It’s not too late to sign onto our petition at http://www.frc.org. Join the 45,000 who have told Obey to keep Americans out of the abortion business.
In the meantime, the battle over birth control doesn’t end with the stimulus bill. If Pelosi doesn’t get her way with the recovery package, her Senate colleagues have a backup plan called the Prevention First Act (H.R. 819), which would infuse millions of dollars into the same contraception campaign. Unlike the stimulus bill, this legislation would go further in using taxpayer funds to push Plan B and also mandate abortion referrals. Make no mistake. The Left will use absolutely any opportunity to push its radical social platform–even if it means cloaking their agenda as “stimulus.”

Posted by: Becky White | January 28, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am

Cut Taxes, Not Children
When President Obama said the stimulus bill would improve “infrastructure,” he neglected to mention that all roads lead to Planned Parenthood. In what is proving to be a wildly unpopular move, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) injected their radical ideas about population control into the ballooning economic recovery plan. Their plan called for the bulk of an $87 billion state Medicaid expansion to be used help people, especially young teens, get their hands on more birth control. According to CNS News, the White House is denying that the “family planning” push was Obama’s idea. In fact, there was such outcry by groups like FRC that the President backed away from his personal support for these programs and called on his party to drop the provision. Late news reports have indicated that Congressional Democrats will bow to his request. If true, it’s a resounding victory for our movement.
However, the debate does underscore just how much influence Rep. Obey holds over the appropriations process. In today’s New York Times, the twenty-term congressman is featured as the architect of this stimulus plan. As a gatekeeper of our tax dollars, he must hear from you that funding “family planning” programs that promote abortion is not an acceptable use of your money. It’s not too late to sign onto our petition at http://www.frc.org. Join the 45,000 who have told Obey to keep Americans out of the abortion business.
In the meantime, the battle over birth control doesn’t end with the stimulus bill. If Pelosi doesn’t get her way with the recovery package, her Senate colleagues have a backup plan called the Prevention First Act (H.R. 819), which would infuse millions of dollars into the same contraception campaign. Unlike the stimulus bill, this legislation would go further in using taxpayer funds to push Plan B and also mandate abortion referrals. Make no mistake. The Left will use absolutely any opportunity to push its radical social platform–even if it means cloaking their agenda as “stimulus.”

Posted by: Becky White | January 28, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am

I think that the Republicans are correct. It will not stimulate the economy and I hope the Republicans vote against it and go for more tax cuts to boost the economy and keep people working.

Posted by: Suzan | January 28, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am

History Buff: “Stop making more debt. The tax cut now makes the best sense. … We can thank the Democrats for the housing mess thanks to Bill Clinton, as I understand it. We can also thank the Democrates for the raping of Social Security funds for other ‘projects’.”
Stop making more debt… by implementing the tax cut that will increase the debt (just like Reagan’s and Bush’s did)? By what new math does that make sense?
And now the housing mess is… Clinton’s fault? Wow. Just, wow. And the Democrats, who put forth Mr Al “put Social Security in a lockbox” Gore for president in 2000 are responsible for the looting of social security?
Thanks for a good chuckle before I head off to bed.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 28, 2009, 1:12 am 1:12 am

Yes, put partisan politics aside and in this time of crisis work together to pull us out of this mess. I’m tired of the hard line positions that lead us nowhere. It’s time our leaders begin to operate out of the thinking part of their brains and act like mature adults.

Posted by: Jude | January 28, 2009, 1:16 am 1:16 am

I’m against all of this and the previous TARP bailout. We should’ve let the market work…painful as it would and still will be. How could they not know and track where the money was going to go?!
The Republicans ought to show up and just not vote on it. If this is so good let Barack, Nancy, Harry, Barney and Chris and all of the other Dems take all of the credit if it works. They can also take all of the blame if it doesn’t.
We do have history and basic economic principles to go by and nobody has ever spent their way out of a recession.
If we must do it spend 1/2 on the Dem plans (bigger gov’t and subsidies) and let the other half go to Republican plans (tax cuts for all who actually pay taxes, lower captial gains, make the Bush tax cuts permanent and cut the corp rate of 35% in half and fix the AMT) and track the results. The tax cut side has proven time and again to speed us out of previous recessions and build jobs the fastest. How can anyone ignore the CBO and their report. The Dem plan isn’t going to do what they say it will because the bulf of the money isn’t really going to get spent until 2010 and 2011!
My/our children and grandchildren will have no future and no freedom because of all of the gov’t spending which is really borrowing. There is no free lunch!

Posted by: Grandpa_and_Vet | January 28, 2009, 1:16 am 1:16 am

FYI for every one dollar spent there is a
return of about a dollar fifty in actual
economic stimulus and that for every tax
break of one dollar there is about .75
cents in economic stimulus.
Before you answer without doing research
think of the American companies that are
closing because Americans are no longer
spending money ordering goods that will
once again be ordered as a result of the jobs
programs not to mention the real world people
who will be able to support the families they
love right now in the here an now Please do
not let rhetoric lead you to decisions that
are truly bad we have spent many of the last eight
years being led around by the nose! Americans
think for yourselves

Posted by: inlovewithourcountry | January 28, 2009, 1:18 am 1:18 am

HOORAY FOR JANE!!! Could not agree with you more, Jane! President Obama clearly got the support of the electorate to appoint an administrative team, committed to the interests of the GREATER American public, as they — i.e.,the Obama team — determine those interests to be. It may be impossible to gain the support of a party that clearly, is so thoroughly partisan and married to a failed ideology.

Posted by: Ms Jeff Bryant-Mazauskas | January 28, 2009, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Why is it considered “politics” when the Republicans want something and “bipartisan” when Obama wants something?

Posted by: Jack | January 28, 2009, 1:18 am 1:18 am

As I recall, allowing people to buy a house who had no way of repaying the loan and other social engineering schemes is what caused most of our problems. We have Frank and Dodd and others to thank for that. And didn’t Clinton with the aid of some Republican relax the banking rules? Are we going to follow the Pied Piper and go over the cliff? It makes more sense to me to let the people keep more of their money. It will find its way into the stores, car dealers and banks. And the sales tax generated will help the states.

Posted by: Gene | January 28, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am

I think the Republicans should have said “NO” quite sometime ago. Instead they said no to bipartisanism and went for yes to a reduction in business regulations and taxes. Seems to me a great plan it was not! We are now in the midst of a great national mess and Americans need the help that the current government is wiling to provide.

Posted by: Sam | January 28, 2009, 1:20 am 1:20 am

NO MORE DEBT.
Obama is WRONG. The best way for government to fix the mess we are in is to let the American People do what they do best i.e. Innovate, Create grow the economy. Plans like Obama’s have been tried in the past. They have NEVER worked. No country ours included has ever been able to spend itself into long term prosperity. 7 years of New Deal did nothing for the economy except prolong it. It took WWII to get us out of that one.
Tax cuts have worked better than increased spending but actual tax cuts are pretty much out of the question right now. Lets try some real change and give the American People a chance to fix our own problems.
You big time spenders in Washington are not smarter than us. You get us into this mess.

Posted by: LA | January 28, 2009, 1:26 am 1:26 am

The arrogance and left wing agenda should be the level of embarassment to you. The over taxing, the giving kids a pass when they don’t pass, give them self esteem when they don’t earn it. Make it a crime when thier feelings get hurt. Bottom line, don’t teach them anything, don’t let parents be involved, spend all of the money on big government BS, not on the teachers, supplies or the children. Keep on complaining. What part of Obama’s package takes care of the kids (oh, I forgot, his kids are going to private school) Let’s see this new change, or is it a new change to the old Clinton change? Obama is not reaching across the isle, he would like it to apear that way. I will eat my hat if he turns out any different than any other politician. There is one thing I do know. the Republicans did not stand up and riot on his inaguration day like all of the crazy paid off kooks from the left did on Bush’s inauguration. The democrats called Bush a Nazi and every other name in the book for 8 years. We are treating Obama with respect. Heaven help us if we have an opinion. When we do,I can guaranty you will say we are racist and not educated. Please bring it on. Obama is the President and he will be treated on a political level. I think the racist days are over, don’t you? Play nice. That is what Obama is doing (oh, I forgot he has not been told NO yet).

Posted by: Celeste Kowis | January 28, 2009, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Thank God! Thank God! Thank God! for the Republicans who have had the courage to stand AGAINST this porkulus bill – for it is what it is – a trillion dollar bill of pork that will be placed on the backs of our children, grand children and on, and on. Government interfering in our Free Market system will cripple our economy every time, and cause great financial burdens for those yet to be born. Does anyone understand what a One Trillion dollar debt means? Does anyone realize that it would take close to 2,800 years of spending 1 million dollars a day to pay back 1 Trillion dollars. If we spent 1 million dollars a day since the day Jesus was born 2,008 years ago, we would still have over 700 years of 1 million dollars PER DAY to repay the debt? This is NOT Republicans playing POLITICS!!! Thank God we have the
Republicans to do all that they can to protect we the people from this outrageous ploy by the Democrats to turn this great nation into a Socialist Democracy like France/Germany/Great Britain. Obama does not need ANY republicans to pass this Porkulus Bill. They need to stand firm against it, and let the Democrats carry the full responsibility and accountability for the consequences! It is also a REAL SHAME that our mainstream media truly did DIE in 2008. The blatant bias, outright lies and misleading reports are a disgrace! You will carry a great deal of responsibility for all of this along side the Democrat Party!
Has anyone considered Rush Limbauh’s BIPARTISAN suggestion for the 850 Billion dollar spending bill? Let the Democrats spend 54% of the 850 Billion dollars their way for the people that voted for Obama, and let the Republicans use the remaining 46% in providing the tax cuts they know would really begin to turn this economy around. This would be TRULY BIPARTISAN, and then we could track which actions provided in the bill affect the economy and how. With a bill such as this we would know once and for all what REALLY works – the Free Market OR Big Government!

Posted by: Justice | January 28, 2009, 1:36 am 1:36 am

The amount of money in the proposed spending package boggles the mind. Unless jobs are a direct result of the investment I don’t care if it’s Republican or Democrats or a blend of both sides….just give us a strategy that is well thought out & without special interest projects. I especially oppose funding to ACORN or any community action group that may have their own agenda. I see Obama’s popoularity is slipping abit and announcing that “I won…so do what I say” probably doesn’t invite cooperation. Bottom line…no more debt please.

Posted by: Catherynne | January 28, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am

C’mon ya’ll!!! use your freaking heads for more than an ornament. FOR ONCE!!! LISTEN CLOSELY…you want to play the blame game?? try the Fed, the Fed chair and all the bankers of the world who have drugged all of us and brought this to all our doorsteps.
Dems and Repubs are in their back pockets. play all your political games and Whodunits all you want but this will continue to spiral out of control until all the bankers are exposed for their deeds!!! money rules, right? follow the money. that is always the trail to take for TRUTH!!!!!!

Posted by: skip | January 28, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am

Republicans always want greater tax cuts and less public spending, and look where it got us. Obama assumes there is intelligent life left in the Republican party. Fugedaboutit Barak

Posted by: Bob | January 28, 2009, 1:56 am 1:56 am

The Republicans always signed off on Bush’s deals, and spent billions and billions over the last 8 years for whatever he wanted, until the Democrats took over. Now that the Democrats are in the majority, they call foul, and they want to say the Democrats are fiscally irresponsible, when in reality, the Democrats have been more conservative on spending than the Republicans have for many, many years. The Democrats are trying to right the wrongs that the Republicans have done to this country, and other countries, and the Republicans are afraid that what they propose will work, and make them look even worse than they already do. If the Republicans were really concerned about the people, and this crisis, they would not have got us into this in the first place! It is good for them to have to eat crow for a change, since they bullied us for long, and all they have to show for it, is the biggest deficit, the worst economy, and the worst war that was waged, for no good reason, they only war that should have been waged was against the Terrorist and Osama Bin Ladin in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Bob | January 28, 2009, 2:34 am 2:34 am

also in regards to all this Democrat bashing, I would like to add, that reality sucks for those who don’t like the truth. You can always put in a bunch of bull on planned parenthood, and the rest of the High and mighty bull. What you all really need is to learn to do your own research, and study what is really been going on since our civilization started, and what is happening now, and why, and then, just maybe you might get some insight into the truth, and stop all this right wing, high and mighty christian, better than though attitude, and think you know what’s best for everyone, and take all our privacies away, and be a police state, so you can rule with an iron thumb, and make everyoone be like you, and follow along like mice with the pied piper. No Thanks, I would rather be a patriotic american who served over 20 years in the military, for our rights, and for the chance at life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is not what the republicans running this country got us, they did just the exact opposite. So they are not in charge anymore, and will whine, and whine, and make up a bunch of lies, and say it as though it is wholly scripture, (which it is not), and will just have to learn the truth, as it is released, which Bush did his best to keep everything secret, that is the Republican way, not the Democratic way. We can jump for joy that the Republicans are crying out, because they have no way of ruining the country anymore, Thank GOD for that! I have watched, read, listrened, and kept track of what the Republicans have don for this country over the last 50 years, and I can honestly say, that the trickle down effect has never worked, and never will. The only thing that has ever worked is to start at the bottom, and work up, not the other way around. When you give the rich, more money to improve the country, they always, keep the most, and give little back, they are Greedy, and greed is one of the seven deadly sins, which by the way Jesus died for the sins of the people, and the people are supposed to repent, not do more of the same, which he spoke against, (remember the story of the money changers). Oh well, I know I am sounding off to the wall, because they have never listened and never will, they think they know it all. Als when it comes to planned parent hood, I guess a war which kills people, and chilkdren, and newborns, and women with child is okay, as long as it wasn’t aborted by the mother. It seems to me that there is some kind of contradiction to this way of thinking, and that if killing is wrong, then it is wrong, whether, by abortion,or by a false war, and brain wash the soldiers into believing that is for the prptection of Americans, when in reality, that had nothing to do with attacking IRAQ. So in closing, I would just like to say, that if you have something to comment, you really should do your research, and get it right, and not make up a bunch of bull to try and get a point across, which is not truth.

Posted by: Bob | January 28, 2009, 3:00 am 3:00 am

Tax credit for those who don’t pay taxes is ridiculous socialistic carp… first off that does not promote anyone to work any harder, its just plain stupid economics.

Posted by: legit | January 28, 2009, 3:14 am 3:14 am

Your question betrays your lack of impartiality and media bias. As of a week ago today, we now have a Democratic President, a Democratic-controlled Senate and a Democratic majority in the House. Where are the checks and balances now? I cannot think of a more important time for Republicans to keep a watchful eye on the billions of *our money* – *taxpayer money* the Democrats are proposing to spend fo *fix* the economy. If Checks and Balances mean anything to you at all, don’t even imply that Republicans should just sit back and *trust* the new President to know how to *fix* our economy by spending our money. Don’t you believe in our Constitution and the value of healthy debate?

Posted by: Sally | January 28, 2009, 3:18 am 3:18 am

The Republicans have lost 2 consecutive congressional elections. There is now a Democrat in the White House. It’s time for Republicans to listen to American voters. Your tax cuts haven’t worked. Give it up. Sit down and let the Democrats fix what you have broken.

Posted by: Cynthia | January 28, 2009, 3:22 am 3:22 am

Republicans are correct to resist. Remember – Republicans deal in fact, Democrats deal in fantasy.
Root cause of current economic crisis is the Community Redevelopment Act signed into law during the Carter administration. Nice idea – help low income get into affordable housing – but POORLY executed. Carter set the bomb.
Under Clinton, the underwriting requirements were totally removed so that anyone could get a home loan, regardless of ability to repay the loan. AND, lenders were severely fined by the government if they did not write these bad loans. However, they were assured that Fannie and Freddie would absorb them, so they did. And, as usual, mortgages are re-packed into the secondary markets and sold around the world as “mortgaged backed securities” a well-accepted practice, but frought with danger when the mortgages are toxic time bombs. Thus, housing market is flooded with buyers – bidding prices up for over a decade as law of supply and demand takes over. The Clinton lit the fuse.
Along comes the Bush 43 Administration and in early 2001, becomes aware of the pending financial crisis at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and tries to correct the situation. But, 9/11 intervenes and the country was refocused on Iraq. Later, in 2005 and 2006, the Republicans re-energize and introduce legislation and regulations to rein in Fannie, Freddie and the mortgage market. It was voted down along party lines in each Banking Committee (Sen Chris Dodd and Rep Barney Franks, both Democrats, chair their respective Banking Committees). Even Democrat Maxine Waters said everything was OK in recorded committee hearings, By the way SENATOR McCAIN sponsored some of the legislation that tried to correct the situation , but was voted down. The stage was now set.
You can see it coming…housing prices going way up…folks buy more house than they can truly afford…mortgage market sabatoged by the Democrats’ social engineering experiments. Something has to give. And it does…gasoline prices and adjustable rate mortgages reset.
The run up in gasoline prices. Some of it driven by world oil demand outstripping world oil supply (documented fact). Some of it by oil speculators (financial analysis). And, ARMS adjust so that family budgets become squeezed. Foreclosures start slowly, then start to pick up speed. Also, toxic mortgages start choking credit markets and businesses begin so slow down…can’t borrow to meet payroll..can’t expand..cash flow tightens,..gotta lay off a few folks to survive…which drives the foreclosures again, which gives more homes back to banks..who now service more of their own loans, making even less money available for businesses and personal loans..and the spiral just keeps tightening until the credit collapse in Sep 08.
So, the REPUBLICANS ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN CHALLENGING THE ADDITIONAL BAILOUT. They have already gotten $4M or $4B removed that was going to ACORN and $200M for condoms for Planned Parenthood (Nancy Pelosi sponsor), NEITHER of which will create any jobs at all. We have to do two things: First, document the government’s ownership of these toxic assets under TARP – it is our tax dollars being spent. Second, we need to go LINE-BY-LINE through this $800B disaster and evaluate each proposed expenditure as to its merits.
Jobs are created by businesses large and small, not by government fiat. Tax breaks for you and I and our employers is a start. Investment in game-changing technology. like renewable energy, can also do it, but renewable energy systems WILL NOT be here in three years – some, not all, of the technology will take some more time to mature.
Martha – please read up on the subject area. There is a lot going on that you did not address. Note that the Democrats’ social engineering and interference in the free market system are the ROOT CAUSE of this debacle we find ourselves in now. MORE OF THE SAME will stretch this recession into a depression that will last a decade, just as FDR’s New Deal did.
We need the best minds from our business schools USC’s Marshall, UCLA’s Anderson, and etc.) to advise us, NOT the politicians.
Please folks write/call your Congressman and Senators. Make them listen to you. Tell them NO PORK..give the TARP funds time to work…if the automakers have to go Chapter 11, SO BE IT. Do the right thing, NOT the politically correct thing. Because, when you go “politically correct” you warp reality, and no decision made under warped reality is ever a good one!!!

Posted by: Jim Rogers | January 28, 2009, 3:57 am 3:57 am

Right on, Jim Rogers!!! I 100% agree! For all of you who like to argue party affiliations and blame the other party – the main difference between Republicans and Democrats is: Republicans believe in letting the private sector solve and/or fix the social and economic problems of our nation. The Democrats believe in having the government solve those problems. NO WAY should the government be responsible or allowed to fix these problems. It only puts us further into debt and who pays for it? US! Many of us struggle enough as it is – even before the recession – why should we also have to help pay off these bailout programs we don’t even want or agree with, and which won’t work anyway? Not only will they not work, i.e. have the result you all are expecting, but they will make our economy and nation’s stability horrifically BAD !!! Republicans in Congress – please do not pass this most recent bailout or any ones in the future. Thank you for allowing me to share my thoughts.

Posted by: Marilyn | January 28, 2009, 4:20 am 4:20 am

“The huge amounts of money that FDR spent did not get us out of the depression. Rather, it made things worse according to a recently published study at a CA university” Incorrect… It was a return to balanced budgets and reduced spending that prolonged the great depression… this study has been debunked by many eocnomists as nothing but right wing propaganda. Even if you believe it…what do you think made WWII so stimulatory? Hint, it wasn’t tax cuts… it was spending!

Posted by: Mike | January 28, 2009, 4:28 am 4:28 am

“Republicans are correct to resist. Remember – Republicans deal in fact, Democrats deal in fantasy.
Root cause of current economic crisis is the Community Redevelopment Act signed into law during the Carter administration.”
Now, who’s dealing in fantasy (and racism)…. some 30 year old bill that gave some black people a chance to buy a house suddenly, of nowhere, is the root cause of all our problems. You’re the one that needs to get out into the real world!

Posted by: Mike | January 28, 2009, 4:37 am 4:37 am

“The tax cut side has proven time and again to speed us out of previous recessions and build jobs the fastest. How can anyone ignore the CBO and their report. The Dem plan isn’t going to do what they say it will because the bulf of the money isn’t really going to get spent until 2010 and 2011!”
Tax cuts haven’t worked the last 8 years… and the TRUE CBO report came out yesterday which showed that 2/3rds of the spending will be in the next 18 months…

Posted by: Mike | January 28, 2009, 4:38 am 4:38 am

“Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do before.”
So said White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel in November, and Democrats in Congress are certainly taking his advice to heart. The 647-page, $825 billion House legislation is being sold as an economic “stimulus,” but now that Democrats have finally released the details we understand Rahm’s point much better. This is a political wonder that manages to spend money on just about every pent-up Democratic proposal of the last 40 years.
[Review & Outlook] AP
We’ve looked it over, and even we can’t quite believe it. There’s $1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that hasn’t turned a profit in 40 years; $2 billion for child-care subsidies; $50 million for that great engine of job creation, the National Endowment for the Arts; $400 million for global-warming research and another $2.4 billion for carbon-capture demonstration projects. There’s even $650 million on top of the billions already doled out to pay for digital TV conversion coupons.

Posted by: NoMoreMr.NiceGuy | January 28, 2009, 7:59 am 7:59 am

Some $30 billion, or less than 5% of the spending in the bill, is for fixing bridges or other highway projects. There’s another $40 billion for broadband and electric grid development, airports and clean water projects that are arguably worthwhile priorities.
The Opinion Journal Widget
Add the roughly $20 billion for business tax cuts, and by our estimate only $90 billion out of $825 billion, or about 12 cents of every $1, is for something that can plausibly be considered a growth stimulus. And even many of these projects aren’t likely to help the economy immediately. As Peter Orszag, the President’s new budget director, told Congress a year ago, “even those [public works] that are ‘on the shelf’ generally cannot be undertaken quickly enough to provide timely stimulus to the economy.”

Posted by: NoMoreMr.NiceGuy | January 28, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am

This is supposed to be a new era of bipartisanship, but this bill was written based on the wish list of every living — or dead — Democratic interest group. As Speaker Nancy Pelosi put it, “We won the election. We wrote the bill.” So they did. Republicans should let them take all of the credit.

Posted by: NoMoreMr.NiceGuy | January 28, 2009, 8:02 am 8:02 am

The Democrats and Obama are playing people for fools. They are using a crisis to spend more money on totally needless things that aren’t going to stimulate the economy one bit and to make things worse they are forcing taxpayers to pay for it by raising taxes, not lowering them. Well you can bend over if you want…

Posted by: NoMoreMr.NiceGuy | January 28, 2009, 8:10 am 8:10 am

Anyone and everyone should question the contents of this massive spending bill. To do so indicates good citizenship and not partisanship.
The real question is why don’t the ABC supposed news reporters raise questions about the funding for ACORN and other social engineering components that are in the bill.
This is a classic Trojan Horse set up and the news media are contributing to its success. You should point out that the real “partisans” are those who slip millions of dollars into the bill as a payoff (to ACORN) and to further their own agendas (again, with ACORN). I am focusing on ACORN because funding it with my tax dollars is an example of egregious partisanship that will not stimulate our economy.

Posted by: veritas | January 28, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

1st of all we need to get those People
Out of the Places that Got us into this Mess…… ie AIG,CitiBank,Freddie,
Fannie Mac,ect…….
Then No More Partissanship just get the American People What they Need Most…
Help………….. We’ve waited Long Enuf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sgt Q | January 28, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

The Republican mantra is what got us into this pickle during these last 8 years. Paul Krugman (award winning economist & author) said that for every infrastructure dollar spend we receive back $1.56, and for every tax reduction dollar we receive back only $0.50. So we should not hold still for Republican backward thinking, but rather look forward to CHANGE, which is what the election was all about.

Posted by: Irene | January 28, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

The Republican mantra is what got us into this pickle during these last 8 years. Paul Krugman (award winning economist & author) said that for every infrastructure dollar spend we receive back $1.56, and for every tax reduction dollar we receive back only $0.50. So we should not hold still for Republican backward thinking, but rather look forward to CHANGE, which is what the election was all about.

Posted by: Irene | January 28, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

while I agree that money shouldnt be thrown at any problem and expected to fix it, I do believe that money spent judiciously and strategically is needed to get our nation back to work. The people doing this work will be paying taxes back into the system. if the government doesnt provide the jobs thru reasonable and cost-effective programs, who will? Should we give more tax breaks to the rich CEOs that make as much in ONE DAY as the average worker makes in a YEAR??

Posted by: Mel | January 28, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

If the Republicans can’t come up with something better than we’ve been doing for the last 8 yrs (and they haven’t) then they need to concede more than they are. However, I would like to see the Stimulus plan require any company that gets a bailout to cut by at least 20% the salaries of anyone making over 150,00 and freeze the salaries of anyone making from 100-150,000 as a condition on the bailout with no bonuses until the bailout money is paid back. There are a lot of unemployed business men out there who would be willing and able to take over for anyone who refuses to take the cut.

Posted by: Anne | January 28, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

I know Obama is proposing to use a lot of money and it may not even be enough. But the current crisis is compared to the economic difficulties of the 1930s. The only reason we don’t have food lines and more homeless is because of a lot of government programs put in place since those bleak times (BTW, the food banks are empty in NYC). Obama said the right thing when he said the question shouldn’t be whether the government is too big or too small, but whether or works. I’ll tell you tax cuts are not going to stimulate anything-we’ve had significant cuts when Bush was in power. Jobs through public work will put money in people’s pockets and fast. Investing in Education and Technology will have a multiplier effect. Please take my tax cut and use it to hire someone, preferably a volunteer who gives a damn about making this country a better place.

Posted by: Richard J. Montelione | January 28, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

History showed us that it was increasing
the federal government that catalized and perhaps even caused the Great depression. We need to learn fron the mistakes of previous presidents. Therefore spending more government funds is probably not going to help the country. Where will all this Money for the spending plan come from anyway? The answer is you and me. And even if this money exsited it will be dispursed over many years so we will not see significant inprovement in the econony for a decade if we ever see it. I beleive we won’t see it anyway.
Obama was elected because people are desperate for a change and voted for him but concern is when we don’t see the change. My concern is what will happen when all the people who thought neively that thing would get better and things would come up roses somehow don’t
get it and reality sinks in, the reality
that the economic crisis and the turoil all over the World gets worse. I love our new President and He needs our prayers support and love and I extend all of these to him… But what about tomorrow if it is not a brighter day…
Then what?

Posted by: Rick | January 28, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

The stimulus bill is much too large and the pork needs to be cut. The money doesn’t get into the economy fast enough to accomplish a stimulus.

Posted by: Ms M | January 28, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

This Bill is too large and no money should be giving to any one on Welfare or anyone who is recieving Goverment checks now. All this Plan is doing is telling everyone you do not have to work and make money to support yourself and your children.
We need to follow FDR’S policy and take every one that is recieving goverment checks to live on and all the people on welfare and on unemployment and put them to work repairing all the roads in the United States.
Put them to work getting the large reserves of oil that has not been tapped in the Western United States. If our taxes are going to pay for the millions of people out of work and for people who are just lazy, then lets put these people to work to earn there money they are recieving.
I have worked for the last 40 years and not a thing has ever been giving to me for free?

Posted by: J. Sadd | January 29, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

The Republican are absolutely right for trying to inject sanity into government. The Kensian economics theroy that you can improve the economy by public spending was disproved decades ago but the idea is still promoted by those whose adgenda is huge goverment. Each dollar spent by government to promote jobs is offset 100% by decreased economic activity due to less private spending due to taxes, to borrowing to finance the provate debt or by inflation if they just print more money. What this wild bailout mentality is really doing is vastly expanding the debt to the point that the govenments revenues after taxes will not allow it to pay social security without either cutting benifits or printing more money. If they print money rather tan cut benifits, and I predict they will, that will disrupt the distort economic conditions further and lead to additioal suffering. The best thing to do is help those affected by the economic down-turn and let this crisis run its course. Long run thst is far better than saddling every taxpayer with an additional $6700 of debt to pay interst on before the government can spend a dime on anythig else. If we keep going down this road we will not even be able to afford to defend this country.

Posted by: Patrick | January 29, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

How about cutting back on H1B visas? Hundreds of thousands of high paying jobs in America have gone to foreign-born workers at a time when our own children graduating from top universities can’t find work.

Posted by: Randall Gregory | January 29, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Tax Cuts For The Rich Is What Got Us In This Mess To Start.
If They Were So Smart Why Are We Now
In such A Mess After 8 Years .

Posted by: Frank Brawner | January 29, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

I don’t see anything in this billion dollar package to put money in the pockets of the millions of the disabled, retired, and unemployed. Tax cuts will not help us. At least they extended unemployment. Unfortunately in AZ that’s only $248 a week.
I also read in an AARP publication that although the Medicare RX plan doughnut hole has seniors angry, the government can’t afford to fix it because it would cost $3 bil. Yet they throw billions to the banks, insurance companies, and wallstreet, who don’t care about us at all. Is Washington trying to tell us we don’t count? It’s our tax money and our childrens that they are wasting.

Posted by: C Hines | February 2, 2009, 2:17 am 2:17 am

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