Eight Children, After Six: Anything Wrong With That?

I could ask the same kind of Questions of the Republican Party.

I think that the mother could have lied about how many children she had already.

Who is paying for the medical costs associated with this birth? Is California’s welfare system going to support these people.

The fertility doctors were out of line. This is a single mom with 6 kids. Now who will pay for all 14 kids? We will, with our already too high taxes and give away programs!

Who paid for all the fertility treatments? News says the grandfather filed bankrupcy last year, no father in sight for the other 6? Who is going to pay all the hospital bills? Taxpayers I guess as always. Go get a job and off the welfare rolls.

Why would any fertility Dr do fertility treatments on a woman who already has 6 children. This is more than unethical it is downright criminal. thye should lose their licence to practice medicine in any state!

I would like to know who pays for the healthcare for these babies considering fertility treatments are voluntary. I also want to know if Social Services is going to pay a visit to this woman’s other 6 children to ensure they are not being neglected. To seek fertility treatments for your 7th child is an indication that this woman was OFF her rocker, and the physicians’ are clearly guilty of ethical malpractice. I’m tired of “political correctness” taking the place of common sense.

i think those fertility doctors should
support those children, or else they pay all the medical expenses, because
i have a feeling tax payers will end up
footing the bills if you know what i
mean.

Not only is thie a question of money but it is question of physical and emotional support. How will she ever be able to emotionally support all 14 children?! And this is simply irrisonsible.

I am amazed at how quickly the media went from love affair to judgmental ninnies when the mother’s life and financial situation came to light. No matter what happened or why, there are eight new people in this world, and making their parents into monsters (though most of the criticism is heaped on the mother alone, thank you, Patriarchy) isn’t going to help them or us. No one is freaking out that the Duggars are still having babies and making money off of it.

The Dr. who implanted the embryos should have his medical license revoked…Why was this mother even considered for infertility with six children?

Did she plan on selling them? What kind of arrangeent does she have with the father?

If she has the money to have fertility treatments, then we can assume that she has enough to take care of her kids….as long as she isn’t on public assistance, it isn’t anyone’s business but hers. Furthermore, how her family members handle their money doesn’t neccesarily mean she will do the same.

This is the kind of greedy self centered thinking that has helped to collapse our country.
Think of this as the waves of uneducated, unfed masses roll through your town in search of food.

mother could have lied and not told the doctors how many children she had already. I hear there is no husband on the horizon. How the heck will she manage, even if she has her parents. To me, it seems ridiculous and someone has sawdust in their brains. Who will pay for these kids, me and you and foodstamps, and other freebies.

I think this woman must be just having babies to collect child welfare! How else can you explain a “single” woman undergoing fertility procedures when she already has six children?? This is disgusting! She is not being fare to her parents and most of all to these new babies and her other six. Where is the husband? This just sounds like the “puppy farms!”

Maybe she can pimp them out like the Gosselins are doing with their kids on TLC. That will help with expenses.

My question is this – why in the world does a single mother want 14 kids? I guess because we, the taxpayers, will pay for this “breeder’s” kids the rest of their lives. Sounds like we need some sterilization for this woman.

Where is this woman’s husband? Nothing is being said about him or if she is she not married? We worry about the ethics of eight embroyos being implanted what about the moral situation if she is not married?

I cannot even imagine the doctors involved in all of this. Doe this woman even have a husband? If shes living with mom it sounds like she couldnt take care of the children that she already had. Just proof of one more thing wrong with the whole system.Where is all the money going to come from for these kids and the hospitol? We all know.Theres people out there that cant get any help that need it and this kind of thing is wrong.

Who is PAYING for this??????

Fertility treatment after 6 kids already? Dare we ask …. Who paid the bill for this treatment?

How is this any of our business? Isn’t this slander? This woman made a decision. She did not go to the media with it, and the media is not only invading her privacy, but they are also accusing her of poor parenting amongst other things, without even knowing her complete story. Live and let live!

Before I became pregnant (after 12 years of marriage) I did everything to make myself as healthy as possible. It too my husband and me 2 years to get pregnant but I refused to go for fertility treatment. When my son was born, he was beautiful and healthy until he was diagnosed with Autism at age 3 1/2. I did everything I was supposed to do to have a healthy child and yet, I still had a child with a diability. I love him dearly but when my husband and I wanted more children, WE ADOPTED! When I felt the pangs for another baby, we GOT A DOG! Whatever happened to ZPG? My son with Autism is now 18. I have lost thousands of dollars in salary, pension, etc. and spent thousands of dollars for his care. It would not be moral or ethical for me to have another child knowing the potential for more children with disability. The doctors this woman went to should have asked more questions. Where were her parents in allowing her to do this? There are better ways to get your 15 minutes of fame. What will be the long term effects of the premature birth of 8 babies? How much will this cost for them to get all the help they need for the rest of their lives? And I pray somebody makes sure this woman doesn’t do this again!

There’s plenty wrong with this story.

WHY WOULD ANYONE IMPLANT A WOMAN WHO HAS HAD A BABY (OR TWO) ALMOST EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS? I THOUGHT THIS SERVICE WAS INTENDED FOR THE INFERTILE, THIS WOMAN IS UBER-FERTILE! THE FACT THAT SHE’S POOR, UNMARRIED, ON WELFARE & LIVING WITH HER PARENTS IS ABSURD. WE ALL WILL PAY FOR 18 YEARS + TIMES 8 FOR HER SELFISH DECISION.
BEWILDERED BEYOND BELIEF

I would like to know how the women who just gave birth to eight children got the money to pay for infertility treatments. Didn’t she have a background check

This is totally disgusting! They shouold be taken away from her. To me this is a Mortal Sin! I wonder if she has any brains. Why fertility drugs when she has 6 children? The Doctors should be examined too. It is so very wrong from all points!

“This lady has the right to have as many childern as she wishes and it’s no ones business.
Why don’t you all worry about your own busines and maybe this would be a better world for all of us to live in.”
And it’s not her business to pick the pockets of responsible people who made choices that were not a drain on others…”mind your own business”???? When someone burdens others to this degree…it’s everyone’s business….

Why does a woman who has 6 children NEED fertility drugs? Where were the doctors brains? In their wallets? I think this is a shame that this was done. The people responsible should all have to explain why it happened. Who will care for all these children, especially if they have medical and social problems? Why all of us, of course.

No one is questioning whether or not children are blessings. However if we put the kids first in this situation, what kind of life do they have ahead of them? If they can truly afford to support them all and raise them up right more power to them. If not, the kids are the ones to suffer.
Oh and now that she has had all of these kids, I hope she is not expecting any help from anyone else, including governmental help. If it gets to that the kids should be taken and placed with people who can afford to give them the love and support they need.

Why is anyone who already had as many children as this woman, even considering more children? The fertility clinic should have refused her.

Before I became pregnant (after 12 years of marriage) I did everything to make myself as healthy as possible. It took my husband and me 2 years to get pregnant but I refused to go for fertility treatment. When my son was born, he was beautiful and healthy until he was diagnosed with Autism at age 3 1/2. I did everything I was supposed to do to have a healthy child and yet, I still had a child with a diability. I love him dearly but when my husband and I wanted more children, WE ADOPTED! When I felt the pangs for another baby, we GOT A DOG! Whatever happened to ZPG? My son with Autism is now 18. I have lost thousands of dollars in salary, pension, etc. and spent thousands of dollars for his care. It would not be moral or ethical for me to have another child knowing the potential for more children with disability. The doctors this woman went to should have asked more questions. Where were her parents in allowing her to do this? There are better ways to get your 15 minutes of fame. What will be the long term effects of the premature birth of 8 babies? How much will this cost for them to get all the help they need for the rest of their lives? And I pray somebody makes sure this woman doesn’t do this again!

Who is paying for the 8 newborns to stay in the hospital “expensive care unit” for the next few months ? My taxes ?

Mother and fother had to many kids and they are to old how are they going to pay for these kids

Are these eight babies going to be on welfare? Then the American people have a say in how big a family should be.
If she is able to raise them on her own without taxpayer help then its none of Americas business.

No single parent with six children should be allowed to undergo treatment that produces more babies. Who is going to pay for the astronomical medical bills and daily care for these babies?
No doubt it will fall on American taxpayers. Care for premature babies averages one million dollars per child for hospital treatment. The bigger question is although it may be legal, is it morally and ethically correct to inplant this many embryos into a woman who already has more children than she can care for. Surley i’m not the only one who sees this as madness on the mothers part. also, what did the doctors get out of this besides lots of money?

I am sicken by this mother who is taking advantage of the system. There are lots of children that she could foster or adopt. . .oh but wait. . .they probably figured out her story. She was definately not truthful with the fertility clinic. Sorry CA that you have to pay for her stupidity and lying.

I didn’t like how they suggested that it would have been better for the children if they had not been born when they said that the children will have a difficult beginning.
We seem to see more and more in media the suggestion that unless you are at least middle class you don’t deserve to be born because of your heritage.
Just a lot of speculation here, we want to believe that this mother is being malicious or the doctors are. But what if the lady just wants a big family. Perhaps she chose this fertility clinic so she would have a large number of children. Maybe she wants a large family, it wasn’t too long ago when large families were common and welcome, before personal wealth and prosperity overrode our desire to raise a healthy family…

What was this woman thinking about? She and the doctors need their heads checked. I would not allow her to apply nor get government aid. This is so very foolish!

1.) How is this unemployed woman who lives at home caring for these children? If it’s Welfare, she should be forced to give up her children for apotion (or temporary custody), get a job and take care of herself and her children- any child support for the first 6?
2.) Every doctor and Nurse involved in this fertiliztion should be stripped of their licenses and brought up on charges of Endangering the Welfare of a Child. I will pray for these innocent babies and the soul of their mother.

I am both furious and sickened by the birth of the “litter” of 8 babies to the California couple. With so many millions without health insurance, I’d like to know who will pay the millions to take care of these premature infants. My guess it will be you and I. Too bad we can’t stick the fertility doctors who let this happen with the bill. What’s wrong with these people, anyway? They already have 6 children!!!! I’d like to know what their yearly income is. If they’re filthy rich, then good luck to them. If not, shame on them. Actually, shame on them anyway.

One should ask the question who is paid for this procedure and who is paying for these children. A single mother with 6 children living with her parents probably indicates some one who does not have a good paying job to be able to support herself and family and that includes health benefits. ( Which by the way , a private health insurance plan problably wouldnt be paying these costs or have a limited $ amount to spend). California residents should be asking if their Medicaid program supported this procedure and now these 8 children and if the answer is yes, someone needs to have their head examined especially in light of the finincial problems the state finds itself in. It is amazing to see what state Medicaid programs cover as health care when you or I as private citizens cannot get our health plans to pay for .

I’m so angry over this. She’s unmarried, unemployed, and living at home with her parents and 14 children. Ultimately who is going to be paying to raise these children . . . We are!
I have only one child because I can’t afford to have any more . . . because of people like her who have babies like puppies and count on the state to support them! This is so wrong. It makes my blood boil to think about. How dare she!

What is wrong with this woman. Ok Ok Ok I get it. Living with mom and dad, no husband, = welfare life. Apparently she was getting kicked off of welfare so this is her way of keeping and getting more from the US tax payers.
She should of went out and got a job like the rest of us tax payers instead of having more children to live on welfare. That is what is wrong with our system already. To darn many hand out to those who can work and are just lazy. And not enough help to those who really really need help. Instead of cutting the welfare to the lazy asses that do not want to get out of bed or get off the drugs or booze. They are cutting the support to the elderly and handicapped. What is up with that. The system is so broke that I dont see any fixing it. Until people start raising their kids the right way. They keep saying that the children are our future. If people dont start raising their children right then, we are going to be in a bad state. Matter of fact in this womans position with six kids already. She should have been spayed after the sixth one.

A farmer living in the 30′s probably would have thought he was blessed because they would have been his future farmhands.
I don’t know what doctor in his right mind would want to bless a woman with more children when she already has 6.
I thought the fertility treatment was for those who haven’t had any children.

Let her do this on her own. No aid form the state of the federal government. No houses built form TV shows and/or free food and stuff from sponsors. I think she did this to get a free ride. It’s disgusting. Maybe she can get a bail out from the federal government !! NOT !!!!
WHAT PEOPLE WON’T DO FOR A FREE RIDE !!!

I would like to know what this mother does for a living? Is she on welfare and if so, how could she be allowed to have this many children? Seems to me that the Doctors were not doing their jobs by not asking questions first! I do believe that all children are a blessing, if you are the one supporting them, and not your community!

My God! What an act of incredible stupidity, not only by the woman, but by those at the fertility clinic! The clinic needs to be shut down, the guidelines tightened, and the counseling improved. Also, the woman needs to be counseled now to allow for the state to take custody of these poor babies and place them for adoption to families who will love and care for them….one to each family. These babies deserve better!!! (Also, I don’t understand the comment from “Thinking” which refers to the Republican Party????)

Who is supporting the other 6 kids that that woman had? I guess she wants to stay on Welfare and Medcaid for the rest of hers and their life.
I can’t think of anything really nice to say about the doctor either.

To all those that say it is not our business!! 1. Medical Insuarance PAID BY US, Special Education PAID BY US, Public Assistance PAID BY US. Let’s just even begin to discuss the added population concerns or all other Macro issues. Yes, it is her “rights”. But her “Rights” effect my “rights” and the big difference – is I have to pay the bill.

What were they thinking? 6 children all under the age of 7!! This woman was not having any kind of fertility problem! I am concerned that these children were forced into a single parent home (no grandparents are not parents). In what is obviously not a financially plush household, this family will more than likely turn to the state of California to support these children and the 6 others. These children will have a difficult time while growing up. It is a heartbreaking story. I am a single mother of 1 7 year old and constantly struggle with making sure that I give him enough attention, how can you support your children and give 14 enough personal attention. Oh that’s right California is going to support them so I guess there is nothing to worry about.

This woman should have been sterilized not receive fertility drugs and the doctor should be disbarred. It sounds like she must be mentally unstable but her doctor should not be. All of her children, including the ones she already has, will pay all of their lives for the unbelievable stupidy of their monther and her doctor. So will the taxpayers.

I think they should have tied her tubes after the sixth baby was born!

Why does a single woman with six children need fertility treatments??? She saw a way to get more money and support from the government, and took advantage of it, as most people do. All that does is cut out the people that need it too, but are told, they don’t qualify, when in reality they do. They may not have 14 kids, but the still need help. She should be made to support all of her children by herself. And what kind of fertility clinic would implant like that? They need to have their license revoked. Since we, the tax payers will have to support those children, we have all the rights in the world to question her private life

I am not sure that this woman is single…as I do not recall hearing that. I have to believe that there is a huge difference ethically in “natural” pregnancies vs. those that are “planted” or induced through some from of fertility enhancement. I feel this is the dilemma in privacy that has been mentioned. I will be angered if this becomes a tax funded family. There is no longer a right to privacy when the “state” gets involved in the rearing of children by irresponsible behaviors and decisions. Also, if there are ethics standards on the books regarding fertility treatments AND those standards were not followed; then I would hope that the clinic that was responsible should face serious consequences!

Unbelievable that this woman would even conceive a thought of having additional children. Of course, since the bankrupted State of California is paying for them, which undoubtedly they will be forced to do because of the financial costs, these new 8 kids probably won’t cost the mother much at all monetarily … in fact, is she already getting a check each month for the 6 who are at home? And, who underwrote the cost for the infertility … a mother of 6 must have difficulty making ends meet, especially since she is living with her parents. Is she an American? The 8 new babies are.

I am OUTRAGED by this audacity of this woman! She should have never allowed this to happen, nor should the fertilitiy drs. I frightens me to think these poor children (and many others with selfish mothers like them) who will likely face major illness (both mental and physical) are the future leaders of our country.

I feel sorry for the poor babies and the grandparents. Thru no fault of their own they will suffer in so many ways. Aside from that what was the mother’s motive for this? Is she hoping for a new house from Extreme Home Makeover. How much will she be getting each month from the welfare system? Maybe the Drs.should cough up the $$$ instead of the taxpayers who have half a brain.

Its oncontionable that a fertility clinic let this women with six other children ,with obiviously no husband in the picture,have other children by implanting embrios. What kind of counceling did she get and who is paying for this procedure? You mean she has the money to go through this procedure and support six other children? Why did she need other children? She was not a candidate in the first place. She already had six children !!! If the state comes in and takes care of these children, the taxpayers get it again for someone who is acting irresponsible. The clinic should be held responsible also for allowing this to happen. Something doesn’t ring right on this situation anymore.We don’t know the whole story. Its too bad the kids will suffer in the long run by perhaps being wards of the state and perhaps have many medical problems. Who’s going to pay?

There is overwhelming dissent for in-vitro fertilization for this woman.
Pros: none
Cons:
* This woman already has 6 previous
young children. This places ethical
issues to the forefront.
* She is a single Mom: no father in the
picture
* Her parents previously filed for
bankruptcy, placing into question her
financial support
* There are only two people to raise
all these children: mother and
grandmother
* Cost: infertility costs tens of
thousands of dollars, and caring for
8 premature neonates can cost an
additional hundreds of thousands of
dollars. This is before the children
make it home!
* Medical: why would an infertility
specialist inseminate a woman who
already has 6 children. Was this
information available. It should have
been. Why were 8 embryos implanted
instead of 2. Asking the woman to
consider an abortion after all the
embryos have taken raises additional
ethical concerns. There needs to be
oversight in the process.
Kevin, Green Bay

I don’t understand why a women with six small children under the age of 10 would need to go to a fertility clinic. Was this person counseled? Did she talk to a psychiatrist? Should her mental state have been questioned? Why did she want to have another baby when she’s living with her parents? It seems that the fertility clinic only didn’t think about the patient’s well-being….

I have a couple of questions about this. Why in the world would any woman (apparently single, living with Mom & Dad)who already has 6 kids undergo fertility treatments and procedures to have more? Also, who’s paying for all of this? I sure hope it’s not the taxpayers.

These DRs. were very irresponsible if you ask me.Who paid for her treatments? Who is paying for these babies? She should have been turned away. This service is wonderful if done for the right reasons such as women who have tried everything else to conceive. There has to be a screening process.This is just wrong on so many levels.

Beautiful statement to life that the eigth children are given a chance to live the dream as Dr King would say the same as you and me. Congradulations to the monther for choosing life for her children.
ABC your report was disgracefully anti-life….shame on you

The mother is a selfish woman and the doctors and hospital are greedy for publicity. My heart goes out to those babies. Besides the financial costs that the family will incur & more than likely the people of California will be taking care of, look at the publicity the hospital and the physician’s group will get. I’m sure they thought initially it was going to be positive, being the second goup of 8 to be delivered alive. I believe all will find it back fired for both and the children will pay the price.

Does this woman have a job? Is she supporting her any of her children or are the American tax payers?  Is the father or fathers paying child support?  What ethical Doctor would implant ANY embryo into a woman who already had 6 children under the age of 8?  This is what is wrong with the government completely supporting people so that they can do nothing but breed!  She should have to figure out a way to support her kids without the people who get up and go to work everyday and do their best to take care of their families having to do it for her! Sick and tired of dead-beat people who do nothing but suck off the government teats of hardworking, taxpaying Americans.

There are so many unwanted children in this country- the United States of America- the fact that a doctor implanted that many embryos in one woman is beyond description. If the population continues to increase at this rate and ilk, the Darwinian Theory will prove out and the human race will be doomed.

This is way beyond ethical, it is malpractice. If she just “wanted a big family” then perhaps she should have considered having the children over time and not as a liter. The years of medical support and special eduction will be a burden on the family for many years to come.

Modern medicine sometimes mimics miracles, which is a good thing. But where is the wisdom and rational, not to mention ethical, reasoning behind providing fertility treatment to a woman who has obviously exhibited fertility six times already? I agree that every child is a blessing but in this case the blessing(s) artificially produced to excess. Hopefully all eight will be healthy but odds are against that. Quality of life may be a huge issue. While I question the sanity of the mother requesting fertility treatment, the ethical judgement of her physician should also be addressed – what was he thinking? If this had been her first successful attempt at conception and delivery I would have hoped she would have counted her blessings and stopped precreating. I wish them all well and the wisdom to no longer “go forth and multiply.”

I feel that the fertility doctor should have researched the mother. I believe the doctor would have reconsidered treater her if they knew her financial state and that she had 6 children already. I also feel she was trying to pull on the human heart strings and scam to get out of their 3 bed room home.

I totally agree that this woman should not have received fertility treatments. However, I believe it goes further. Every time some woman delivers a litter of babies they’re paraded on national TV as heroes and followed for years on the kids’ birthdays. It makes me want to vomit. Be responsible, for God’s sake.

She’ll more than likely have a tv show on TLC or Discovery. That will take care of her bills. She’ll also get a book as well as other things us normal folks don’t get.
I’m not worried about her being the straw that breaks the taxpayer’s back, I’ll leave that to Obama.

You’re kidding me! Who paid for the fertility treatment? Who’s paying for the hospital care? Everyone involved in this from the mother to the mother’s parents to the doctor’s should all have to pay retribution for this debaucle! If the mother was too stupid to know better, where were the parents? I guess they’re too stupid too! And the doctors – My God they should certainly know better. ABC news just announced that California is putting a freeze on helping the elderly, but they are going to pay for this mess!

Who are we to question this mother about her private life? We are,the people who are going to be paying for the care of her children. And,for the record,she made her life public information. This is not only a disaster but an outrageous too. The director of the fertility clinic and the mother should be criminally charged. What sane person would implant eight embryos into the womb of a person who already has six children ages 7, 6, 5, 3 and twins aged two? Does a woman who has at least one child per year really need fertilization? Any wonder why California is bankrupt?

It is ridiculous to pose the question “was she counseled…” Obviously, all the counseling in the world would not have mattered. The physician(s) involved should have their licenses revoked. As many others have already said–she clearly did not have a fertility problem and now the taxpayers are stuck with supporting 14 children, plus massive medical bills, instead of a mere six kids.

I think the fertility clinic which participated in this travesty should be identified and held up to public ridicule. You know they didn’t provide their services gratis.
This is an example of capitalism and greed at its best. Follow the money!

In the first place, how was she approved for IVF?? Six kids under age seven certainly doesn’t even hint of a remote possibility of conceiving problem. Question that arises regarding the six other youngsters, were they conceived naturally or through IVF and if so through IVF she is a pathetic and selfish individual that only looks at having another child as a means to increase her income by public welfare support. Take away all the children and let those that desperately want children experience the most precious and rewarding experience of loving a child…do not let this most abusive and sickening type of child abuse to continue with a woman that shouldn’t have the the right to even be considered a mother.

Idea…… Fine the doctors, fertility clinic and anyone else that was okay with this woman getting pregnant and invest the money in a trust for the children’s future/education.

Ethically, anyone agreeing to implant eight embryos into a woman who already had six children, is unmarried with no visible means of support is criminally irresponsible. Who are these physicians? What criteria do they have before they agree to use fertility methods to induce pregnancy? How was this woman able to afford the procedure which I understand is quite expensive? It seems to me that the hippocratic oath to “do no harm” has gone the way of many other ethics in this country. For shame.

Eight children after six children is a disaster, this mother and the doctor both should have a long holiday at a psychiatric house.

I would really like to know who paid for this procedure???. I know it is not likely being paid for by any insurance company! Not many policies cover this. How can anyone with 6 children afford this?! My daughter & her husband are PAYING for their proceedure to hopefully get pregnant with 1 (or no more than) 2 babies and she is only 30. They have been trying for 5 years to get pregnant. They have NO children. She is getting NO help from any insurance or government agency. It really angers me to think anyone would even entertain the idea that they need more children with their youngest being twins at 2 years of age???? She must have started this fertility proceedure when the twins were, what ONE year old?? What is wrong with this picture. I have to worry about any doctor that would even think this could in any way be ok at a time when so many Americans are losing their jobs and homes. Privacy ??? They should have thought of this a long time ago. Just maybe this is one of the problems with our system that needs to be fixed. Have we paid for the other births too?

“burden on the family for many years to come. ”
And, a burden on the taxpayer.

I guess her and the State of CA are happy Congress will pass the NEW extended S.H.I.P.

I am so very saddened and sickened to hear about this situation. As a young woman, I understand the want to be a mother. I had to have a hysterectomy and I know that I cannot birth children. I find what this woman and her doctors did to be appalling and irresponsible. I understand the need to be a parent and to have the family that you want, but at what expense? It all just sound so selfish. This women and her doctors are the reason why IVF and other fertility treatments get such a bad name. I just don’t understand what her fertility doctors were thinking. I mean did they do this for the money and the publicity? I hope that she is a good person and a good mother to the 6 children she already has, but what she and her doctors did was unethical and irresponsible. Her and her doctors were messing in a “world” that they shouldn’t have been messing in. I do hope that because of this situation, we decide that we need to create some sort of laws so that this never happens again!!!!!

Mind your business!!!

Patricia N. -
This is our business!!!
Yours too!!!
Can I send you my part of the bill?

I’m in agreement with the majority here..it’s difficult to even comprehend

The fertility clinic should have its license pulled and charges filed against the doctor who implanted this woman. Since when is it the American taxpayer’s responsibility to support and pay the medical bills for this ludicrous act and this irresponsible mother who cannot even support the six children she already has. I cannot even stand to listen to the news on this story as it makes my blood totally boil!!

Absolutely shameful. I believe it’s all about the money and the medical ego. I can’t stand the lack of responsibility, GREED, and the “I’ll do what I want and the hell with everybody else” mentality. Same as Wall Street, Big Oil, Big Banks, the Fat Cat CEO’s/Politcians, and the board members who vote them in to await their kickbacks.

ABC should look into the fertility clinic that treated her. According to the medical ethicists interviewed about this case, the doctor who implanted this woman should not have implanted more than two embryos.
A doctor should be able to tell that a woman has given birth to 6 children (including two-year old twins!) when performing a medical exam. Why on earth would a clinic agree to provide fertility treatments to a healthy young woman who has had 6 live births?
Answer: GREED
This clinic should lose its license. Immediately.

I would like to know what the heck she and her parents were thinking????
Are they starting their own cult ???
Who do they expect to pay for all their needs at the hospital and as they grow?? Oh yes of course the Taxpayer right?? Well not here..You did it you pay for it and don’t expect welfare cause that is just sick and wrong!!!!!!

I totally agree that Americans are pumping out way too many kids! It makes me sick when these women get pregnant for state assistance. If this woman was half way intelligent would leave 7 babies behind for adoption when she goes home. If she was even smarter she would tie her tubes while she was there! It is time for tougher reform on state assistance rules. I am personally tired of paying for all these people who sit on their cans with no jobs collecting more money than I do working 60 hours a week!

This woman clearly has to have some mental/psychological issues. There is absolutely no reason in this 7Billion world to have more than a kid or two, I don’t care how rich you are. There is simply no need for them, other than selfishness. I knew something was not quite rihgt when they were trying to keep her identity a secret.

Why in the world would a woman who already has 6 children be eligible for fertility treatments. Not for nothing but this type of procedure should be limited to women who can’t conceive a child on their own and don’t have any or perhaps 1. It is totally irresponsible on everyones part to allow this to happen to someone who already has six children. This really smacks of greed!

What ever happened to personal responsibility? That includes the fertility clinic that did this. If the government (us) would stop giving welfare checks per baby and the parent had to pay expenses maybe it would make women think twice about having babies for money. How can a single mother give each of these children the personal care they need. What she did was selfish.

There is so much blame to pass around. I hope the media doesn’t make her a celebrity single Mom, instead she should be shunned and shamed. And yes it is our business. Esp.if you live in Calif.Calif is going bankrupt. I think she may have lied to a fertility clinic
wanted to have 6-8 kids so she could get fame and have house built for her and free diapers etc. etc. This is a form of child abuse. Authorities should consider if she is an adequate Mother to take care of these innocent babies. Also the last news says she is single and used a sperm donor.

We could stop this from happening by refusing to pay for it.

As long as this person is not on welfare there is no problem with what they want. If however this person is on welfare there is a REAL BIG PROBLEM. I should not be made/forced to pay for their children and their upbringing. It is bad enough that there is abusers of welfare. I am hoping that this person is not on welfare of any kind. That is a subject that was not talked about on the NEWS about this issue. They only stated that this person still lived at home and did not give the reason why. It is sensationalism to not report the truth. Don’t report parts but the whole story.
Pete

This disgusting situation once again underscores that it is well past time that our society to muster the courage to address the elephant in the room. Just how much should society at large subsidize other peoples children? These children will no doubt cost the taxpayers MILLIONS… why should society foot the bill for such an extreme and unnecessary family?

We shouldn’t mess with nature. If you cannot reproduce naturally, then let it be. I am not naive, I know all the arguements for allowing these treatments. Again, shouldn’t mess with nature.

The hospital will go into debt, pass any costs it can to other patients, and the state and all of us will support these kids and their mother (her plan, I suspect). This is ethically and morally wrong and should be denounced in a world where so many children are starving every day. Shame on all who knew, but still went through with this!!

nice comments jd~~not~~ to answer the original question: yes, there is a great deal wrong with any mother with 6 children undergoing fertility treatments. if taxpayers are underwriting the cost of raising these children (and we absolutely are) then the problem is more significant.

The state requires you to license your dog, but anyone can have a kid…..or 8 of them. RIDICULOUS

Six kids, living @ home…where did she get the money for the procedure in the first place plus we hear nothing of the father. Another family on welfare.

I hate being negative about this one but… I question her sanity, considering her current circumstances this is a decision a “normal” thinking woman would not have considered whether it was just for one more or not, her hands are full already. As others have mentioned I hope she’s not looking for public assistance as a means for their support. It makes you wonder.

This is a great wake-up call for all men to take care where they store their sperm. I’d bet down the road there will be some sort of lawsuit claiming the sperm donor has responsibility for the 8 kids(maybe 14 as one news organization said the other 6 kids were from same type of procedure.)

As a retired teacher, I’ve seen too many children who have physical and mental/learning problems. Life is difficult for them. Where do we think these poor children, born to a single mother,living with her parents, will end up?
I have two adopted children and a (surprise) “birth” child. My children are the most precious things in the world to me. But when I gave birth to my youngest, I had my tubes tied, knowing that I had three children who depended on me.
The mother of these octuplets seems to have no such concerns. All, or some, of those babies will have problems, whether physical or mental. How can anyone who love children do this?
The doctors who did the in vitro fertilization should be made to bear the tremendous costs that are sure to appear. Their ethics must be “lower than a snake’s belly”. Even if they didn’t know about her other children, it was irresponsible to place eight embryos in her.
Everyone connected to this fiasco should be ashamed. We, the California taxpayers, should not have to be held responsible for their (mis)behavior.

Many questions arise from this news…and yet no answers are given. It’s pretty clear that you and I, the hard working, tax paying, moral,ethical and God fearing will be stuck with the bill….our children and their children will pay and keep on paying…and just think….there’s no place for us to go and start a NEW “America” as our forefathers did 209 years ago.. Yes we all have the right to birth as many children as God will give us….But, this woman did not get these babies from the “Father” but only from MAN’S intervention. Time will tell, but we already know that this whole story doesn’t have a happy ending for the taxpayer….we will continue to fork out of our own proceeds and pay for those who know how to use the system. My question is, When will ABC start sharing with the world how the majority really feel and report the news in favor of Freedom and Capitalism instead of Socialism and Control by the government? When will “WE THE PEOPLE” ALL STOP PAYING for those people who suck all the blood from our wonderful country, never giving into the system but only takeing, takeing, and takeing………………………… The Bible tells us that if man wants to EAT he must WORK by the sweat of his brow. As a Born Again Believer, I believe in helping those less fortunate…to take care of the widows and the young women with children whos fathers have been robbed of their lives …..But where does one get the idea that they can do unethical things and reap good rewards….OUR COUNTRY IS GOING BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS WOMAN AND HER PARENTS AND THOSE FERTILITY DOCTORS, THAT HAVE NO REGUARD FOR OTHERS….AND NO RESPECT…THEY THINK ONLY OF THEIR OWN AGENDAS, WANTS AND DESIRES AND ARE THE ULTIMATE IN SHELFISHNESS….MY ONLY CONSOLATION IS THAT IT WILL END with JESUS’ comming as HIS word says…The bible is the only book of prophecies that all have come to pass accept those that have not yet happened….not any other prophetic book or writings have that claim….So, Lord Jesus come Quickly………. We are failing to be sympethetic and need your return….
As for the Babies and the parents of the new mother and the siblings and the mother…They will have no worries…because heart strings have been pulled and as “PAM at posting 9:14:21 on 1-30-09″ stated…someone will come and give them free everything and you and I will still be working hard to make ends meet paying our bills like responsible americans and getting no where fast….Only GOD can bless us…cause we aren’t about to go have more children than we can afford so that we can become famous when the media picks up our story and ushers us into fame…. shame on you ABC…..It might make a better world to report only those stories like the “Person of the week”

My concern is that this family – mother, father and daughter, are using these children to get government assistance with payments for each child to cover their costs of their home and family life and quite frankly I don’t appreciate the fact that it is our money paying to keep their lifestyle.

What’s even more disturbing about the whole situation, is that there are people here commenting on how we should mind our own business and condoning this irresponsible woman’s actions.
Some have mentioned if they have enough money, why not. well, they don’t. They filed for bankruptcy last year. And who do you think is going to foot the bill for all those 14 babies?

I saw a report that these eight babies will cost around $50,000 per year, excluding medical expenses. Add in the six other kids, and it will be $70,000 or $80,000. I hope this woman has a good job! The cost of living in California is no joke. Even though she’s living with her folks, she better be making well over $100,000 per year to support herself and her 14 kids.
I’m just barely hanging on, and California is going broke. This was her choice. I hope she doesn’t expect the rest of to pick up the tab. That’s not fair to us OR her 14 kids!

Could she have been implanted in another country???

Now we learn that the latest mother of octuplets is a single mom who already had six other children and lives with her parents. Imagine the cost to the taxpayers of subsidizing this woman’s neurotic prolificacy for the next twenty years. (Could that have been what she had in mind?) This was not a medical miracle, it was a medical sideshow. Where is the outrage from the AMA? And where is the condemnation from our sanctimonious religious leaders?–if their god intended octuplets, he’d have given Eve eight teats. The fertility “expert” who enabled this unconscionable obscenity should lose his professional license–permanently– and be sentenced to handwashing these babies’ diapers until they’re all fully potty-trained!

You all need to get over yourselves. If this was a bid for “15 mins of fame” don’t you think she’d have contacted the media? TLC loves thus stuff. They probably would have paid a bundle to follow her pregnancy. And the women continues to keep her silence. She could be raking in the bucks from Dateline, Primetime Live, etc giving hospital interviews. Yet she remains silent. If she wanted money and fame, she’d be far more vocal than she’s been.
You are all being sucked into this media firestorm. This lady won’t talk so they find all the dirt they can on her, her family, whatever in an attempt to get her to speak out. I say good for her. She’s holding up well. Most people would be angry if the media was talking about them and their family this way.
State aid did not pay to get her fertility treatments. She had to pay for it herself. There is no evidence that she has ever been on state aid for her or her children. So until there is proof that she is asking for a hand-out, you shouldn’t act as if she is reaching into your wallets.
As for limiting the number of children people can have (single or married) that is beyond stupid. Do you really want the gov’t telling you how many children you can have? If so, move to China. This is America.
There is also no conclusive evidence that the fertility docs implanted 8 embryos. Guidelines dictate that they implant no more than 4. Give her history of twins, it is possible that the embryos implanted split into twins, triples, whatever. Doctors do their jobs. These docs were paid to help this lady get pregnant. They also counseled her to reduce the pg. It was her right to decide not to reduce. Living in a pro-choice society, women have the right to choose to continue or not to continue a pregnancy.
She made a hard choice and it was far more likely that she’s loose all her babies than to be able to gestate them for 31 weeks.
These babies are a miracle. People should just butt out and let the family alone.

Poor babies; poor grandparents!
A news show stated that she had a psychology degree and was working on her masters. (I don’t know if this was verified.) Question is: didn’t she learn anything in school?
Also, it’s been reported that she is working as a psychiatric technician (and that she had a license to do so).
Here in Louisiana (and probably most places) there is no license for this job. It pays very poorly.
Well, the babies are here. I hope private citizens/companies/churches/,etc. will pitch in. The woman obviously needs help in more ways than one.

It is my feeling that the biggest question here is the ethics of fertility treatment on an individual who already has six children. Her marital status/financial status should have no bearing on the decision, but the fact that she already had a houseful of children should have made an impact. Fertility treatment should be reserved for those who have no children, or few children, at the least. Now these children will face many years of medical treatment as a result of having been born early – this was a know outcome when implanting that many embryos. There is a serious flaw in the ethics of this case, in many ways.

this woman did not bear children, she created walking dolls for what seems like a childhood she is trying to create for herself. obviosly she has not grown up. and now is dependent on us working taxpayers to pay for her and her doll collection. she should be fined. and put those children in a good home, with parents who can give them quality care, which they truely deserve.

hmmmm,So how will the mother decide whether to visit her 8 babies or to stay home and take care of her 6 children for the next couple of months, there are only so many hours in a day. To me all 14 children are being neglected already. She can not expect her mother and the nanny to watch the kids. Why have the children if you can not give all of them your attention. And it sounds like the father of all 14 children are the same man???? Make him pay! I do agree that this woman should have all 14 children taken away!

I think it’s outrageous. Think of all the couples out there that cannot conceive, wait years to adopt and have many disappointments with IVF. I feel that it’s unethical, putting the blame on the physician that did this. Who is going to pay for these children’s special needs?? Guess who…this is attrocious.

The mother is nuts, that is a fact. I just feel sorry for all these children’s lives, their lives will be far from normal and I mean it in a bad way…

I think both the doctor & the mother need their head examined. There’s women in the world that can’t have babies, then there are this type who vie for attention. Sicko.
God help those babies.

Listen here – those of you that say it is none of ‘our’ business…..Wake up!! It IS our business because yes, we (including you) ARE going to be paying for these children one way or another all because of the mother’s selfishness!! If she has money, why is she living at home then!!! Huh? And putting money aside – this day and age there is no way she can physically care for these 14 children giving them the love they all deserve. She will be soooo stressed and tired it will be impossible!! Good luck! And, I agree, enough with the T.V. shows about the Duggers and John and Kate make 8 or whatever it’s called. Fine to have lots of kids, but hmmm can’t support them on your own evidentially, you need US to pay for them by being on TV!!!!

I wasn’t going to post anything because most people have covered how I feel about this issue. It was unethical and selfish of this single mother to have 14 children to please herself while paying little attention to how this would affect the children, her parents who have to help her care for them, and the wider community who would have to foot the bill if she failed to provide for them on her own. Needless to say, Child Services needs to get involved in this case immediately. The fertility doctors also acted unethically and should be penalized. But I really had to respond to the people who keep comparing this to Jon & Kate Plus 8. This is not even close to being the same! Kate didn’t already have six children and wanted more, and she wasn’t single and, at the time, financially dependent on others. Jon and Kate were both employed, had two children and wanted one more. No greed, irresponsibility or craziness here. As God-fearing people, they often receive blessings, such as an outpouring of love and gifts for them and their kids, but they don’t seek these things out. And they have worked hard over the years to take care of those kids every single day, without Govt welfare.

Jon/Kate and Michelle/Jim Bob have nothing do with this women breeding children. They are married and are supporting their families the best they can. This women having 14 children is a crazy thing for any one person to do. No one person can take care of 8 babies and 6 other children by them self. Daycare or childcare provider can’t even by law take care of 8 infants at one time.
This woman needs mental health help. Quickly before she has anymore children. These children all 14 of them are at a very strong disadvantage for a happy or successful life. Who is going to pay to rise these children??
I pray that this woman (she not a mother she a breeder) finds away to rise these poor helpless children. With all the love, support, caring and respect they deserve. May God watch over these children.

This story demonstrates the absolute stupidity operating in the U.S. today.
The woman should be committed to a mental institution;
the fertility doctors’ medical licenses revoked and then jailed or made to work to support the last 8 kids;
kids placed for adoption to sane families;
fathers of first 6 kids chased to ends of earth to pay child support; and
California should review entire welfare system.

Someone who’s obsessed in having children especially in this economy should have there head examined. What man will support her now??

so.. who will pay for all FOURTEEN of these kids… WE WILL. i think the doctors who did this should support and pay for the medical bills for these children for the next 18 years. Then see how quickly they start monitoring what they and and who they do it too. It’s insane

Obama should be checking into the octtuplets finances and make sure they never get a dime of taxpayer money. She wanted to have them now she can get off her butt and support them. That means she can pay for their special ed and any medical needs. if she can’t pay then she needs to give them to a loving family that can make sure they can support them and provide them with a stable environment.

A single mother,,,, six kids in tow already,,, eight new babies to care for,,, and no husband in sight! Guess who pays the bill? That’s right, you ‘n me. This sounds like the American entitlement program dream come true. If this woman can’t pay for the care of these children, then the doctor(s) who planted those little seedlings should. And they might as well throw in a little extra for forced contraception and counseling for her too!

This type of fertility treatment is criminal and should be considered malpractice.
Who even allowed this woman to have treatment with 6 other children?
Who followed her pregnancy and allowed her to keep them?
Fertility treatment like this was designed for women who have difficulty conceiving. At this point she should not be allowed to keep any of her children. It is very cruel to them. She has just selfishly forced 8 newborns into lives full of suffering from health and developmental problems. There are more restrictions for getting a driving license!

Six kids already?
I think she has a new syndrome, probably some variation on Munchausen by proxy – instead of getting sick, she gets pregnant. Drs. need to take responsibility for their action, fertility treatments shouldn’t be treated like a drive-thru menu, 8 implantations sounds like they offered to super size her fries.

As a child advocate and pro-lifer I find this story very disturbing. First it is very sad that these children are being birthed into poverty and unfortunate that the children often pay for the folly of the parents.
This mother needs to be evaluated mentally for her actions in using fertility treatments and having no income. Obviously its not challenging enough that she is struggling in her life circumstances but she invites 6 then 8 more. I guess misery loves company.
The state needs to seize custody of all of these children until it can be established how they will be cared for. 14 children in a 3 bedroom house is a health hazard.
She could also be immature like a lot of clients I’ve worked with who think “have a baby get free stuff (i.e. WIC-cereal, juice, cheese; Section 8; public aid-cash, medical and foodstamps).” Her approach to the poor economy seems to be to coast on welfare and other free stuff from a sympathetic public (i.e. Jon & Kate plus 8). And you know what. It just might work.
There isn’t anything noble about poverty and though I am happy the children were allowed to be born, I have nothing but sympathy for these children. They would be best served been placed with families who can provide for their basic needs.

these babies should be taken away by DCFS and given up for adoption to couples who have no children and are desperately seeking to adopt.

I just have to say that I have been asking the same questions since the news broke about this womans financial situation. Are they members of a cult or something?? Trying to breed an army? The grandfather told reporters that they would not be living in the house shown on the news, they were moving somewhere bigger at an undisclosed location.
I do believe the doctors should be charged by the state for malpractice. Any “fertility DR” should be able to do a physical exam and tell the women had multiple children already. Documentation should have been requird as to financial ability to care for these children and proof of existing children before treatments started.
For a Dr to implant 8 eggs in the uterus of a women who is obviously not infertile is a crime and the Dr’s should have topay restitution (child support) to help care for these children.
No, II don’t wish to live where the government dictates how mant children an individual may have, but the guidlines for fertility treatments should be just as stringent as adoption guidelines. Why have a litter of kids when you could adopt and give a home to children already here in need??

I believe that she needs to be given the option to put these children up for adoption. First, I don’t think that anyone needs to be having more than 2-3 kids in this day and age. No matter religioius preference!(Duggars included)
I am outraged at this situation as a taxpayer and as a mother. I have 3 children 5 and under and find it hard to give them the time and attention that I would like to. And no matter how you schedule/plan it you simply cannot adequately care for so many children whether it is 6 or 18! She obviously needs some mental health attentiona nd then adoption should be posed to her as an option. I have so many friends and family that have tried for so long to have a child and they are able to support and love one. Why is it the undeserving that can have children in “litters”?!
There is just so many things wrong with this situation and others similar(Duggars) that it is hard to know where to begin. In the end though, it will be the children that will suffer and no child should have to be put through that.
We need to take our concerns to our government and make our displeasure heard. Blogging about it doesn’t keep it from happening again but lobbying our government for change may.
‘Live and let live’ in this ever-changing world just no longer applies.

First, I am glad the mother did not decide to abort these children after her unfortunate decision to seek out this fertilization to begin with. Not to overlook the doctor that would put her at this type of risk. She could have died and left behind the other six children. Now according to the news she is asking for $2 million dollars for her story to help take care of these children. Well I don’t know the woman or her ethics. It all just makes you wonder. We all have freedom and choices but it should include responsibility and thinking of others. (including the unborn) And not just pleasing ourselves. Still wish her family the best. Children need strong role models that includes an involved father figure. It is sad when some in a society see the male or female as only donors to childbirth. It is so much bigger than that, the true meaning of mother and father.

First, I must say congratulations to the woman. A birth is a miraculous thing; especially the birth of eight babies.
A family’s structure is private. How many children a person or couple chooses to have, and how they raise their children, is an inherent freedom that every American (and every person should have).
UNTIL:
1.) There is any sort of abuse or neglect that puts the child(ren) at risk.
2.) The person or family goes onto public support and expects tax payers to pay.
Your children have rights too. And so do they tax payers. The minute you harm your child or go on use public welfare, the government and the media have a right to step in.
If you are using tax payers money to support your child, the tax payer has a right to know and to comment.

This is an outrage and another example of what our “free” system rewards. This mother will make more money from welfare by having more kids and somehow sees a personal, probably monetary benefit by creating more children. She may only be trying to “survive” and may simply be taking advantage of the system we have allowed for years. We all observe firsthand the continual waste and poor appropriation of money in our country. There is no fear. Our present economic situation really should not be a “surprise”. Those in charge are the ones responsible: all the presidents, congressman, Ceo’s and ultimately, the people who are continuing to vote for and ALLOW all this foolishness. We are fast losing our place in the world w/ our arrogance, poor responsibility and/or financial acumen about what is happening, lack of willingness to support those leaders who want to do something about it. Leaders who have plans that include sacrifice and budgeting are usually voted out. This may not include Obama. He has yet to prove his direction and ability to change things. We are simply reaping what we have sown. We are extremely spoiled. Good luck to and God help us all, we are going to need it, since, in my opinion, our common sense went out the window long ago.

” believe that she needs to be given the option to put these children up for adoption. First, I don’t think that anyone needs to be having more than 2-3 kids in this day and age. No matter religioius preference!(Duggars included)
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Dont be surprised when this story finally boild down to some truth of her rerasons for doing this, that the idea of being the next “Duggars” or “Jon & Kate + 8″ and getting a TV show might be a big part of her thought process!
Thsi woman has no husband is living with her mother with 6 kids under the age of 8 !
There is absoultely NO rational explanation why anyone would even think of doing this in this situation, let alone ACTUALLY doing it!

I’m sorry, but this woman isn’t a mother. She’s a breed mare. This whole thing is downright obscene. Humans were born with TWO breasts for a reason. We’re not meant to have LITTERS.
It’s one thing the couples that couldn’t get pregnant at all and use IVF and their first successful pregnancy just happens to be multiple births. You can’t help that just like moms of natural born triplets or twins can’t help it, but to use IVF, have SIX kids, be in her life circumstances (no money, no job, no husband, no independence) and then go and have ANOTHER IVF treatment and add EIGHT kids, something about that is just wrong. I have no ill feelings towards her newest batch of babies because they are innocent in all of this, but because of her actions and the actions of her IVF doctors, there are eight newborn babies in this world that have been made into collateral damage because of this freak show. It’s just wrong. This is not fair to those kids.

This situation is ridiculous and obscene. I’m sure the hospital will foot all its own bills (look at this great publicity after all) but this woman now has 18 years of HUGE bills. My cousin has sextuplets and she and her husband are drowning in debt as both of them work and their families take turns watching the babies.
The scarier issue here is what the fertility doctors could have been thinking!!! I find most fertility drs to be total quacks preying on people who just want one little miracle but whoever performed this procedure needs to have his license taken away to fast it makes his head spin. I’ve grown up surrounded by doctors all the time but I have NEVER heard of something so disgustingly unethical in all my life.

I was told at one time it was a woman’s right to have a child or children. I agree with that, IF you can afford them.
The publicity (2 million for an interview – absurd), donations, etc. Others have done this, and it is good to a point. But when there is already 6, why would you want more? I don’t think it’s possible that she could earn enough to support these children along with 8 more. It isn’t up to her parents, welfare or anyone else to support her and the children.
Many, many people have one or two children. they want to be able to support them and give them college educations.

The State of California Family Services Division should intervene. First, there are too many people in the existing household. These children should be placed in foster care and the family should be evaluated for mental and financial capacity to care for these children.

she has told friends that she will get paid for having all thes kids. she is living off the six kids has at home through public assitance an food stamps
those kids don’t see any of that aid the money goes into her pocket,an now she has the guts to come on the internet asking for donations.now that is a sign of a very sick women

Paternity…if she goes on TANF, there has to be a father involved to shake down. If she dies….these kids have no connections except the grandparents. Pretty weak…I guess there is a lot of “faith” here. I am not so trusting of fate.

“This lady has the right to have as many childern as she wishes and it’s no ones business.”
NO, she doesn’t. this entire planet is being crushed in the weight of an excessive population because people seem to think they have the “right” to as many children as they please.

” Why judge her for what god has given her some women who want children and cant have them would feel blessed.why judge her for something that she had no control over.”
Because “God” didnt give her this, the taxpayers and the invirto clinic did!
And I’d say she had a great deal of control over this whole sorry affair.