Closing Arguments: Geithner’s Future
Amid all the finger-pointing and AIG outrage today came calls for Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to step down because of his handling of the insurance giant. One Florida Republican called the entire Timothy Geithner experience "a disaster." The president, however, is standing by his man — for now. So tonight: we ask you: Should Geithner step down or does he deserve the public’s patience? Tell us what you think. And follow "Nightline" on Twitter: http://twitter.com/Nightline
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Sounds like some people want instant success in correcting a bad situation.
That’s a bit like the person who suddenly realizes he weighs 320 pounds and wants to lose 140 pounds by next week—then gets upset because it doesn’t happen—blaming the doctor or dietitian for not working miracles.
Patience is a good thing!
Posted by: George | March 18, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Geithner must step down. He either knew about the bonuses and did nothing to stop them, in which case he is ineffective and part of the problem. Or he truly knew nothing about them, in which case he is an ineffective and uniformed regulator, and completely incompetent. His choice – but either way he’s gone.
Parting irony — the “fix” to Geithner’s AIG bonus scandal may be to “tax the bastards” to get it all back. Funny, Geithner is something of an expert in not paying taxes.
Posted by: Voter2Be | March 18, 2009, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
No, why? Why would Giethner do that? None of this is his fault.
Posted by: rumki | March 18, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Timothy Geithner is billion times better than war mongers Republicans. We stand by Geithner as along as there is a corrective action from AIG. Financial situation like getting bonus getting back can be corrected, but, nobody can correct the sacrifices and money lost in war.
Posted by: JS | March 18, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Patience is one thing but pure denial and stupdity is another. The fact is that these bonuses are no surprise. They have been known about for awhile and a plan should have been in place prior to their distribution. Sorry Mr. Giethner but You’re out!
Posted by: Jolie | March 18, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Geithner should not step down. This whole AIG charade has been blown out of all proportion and to blame him is scapegoating. I don’t know whether I like him or not, I don’t know whether he is competent or not, but I do know one thing: The Republicans are trying to stage another witch hunt. That’s what I think and how I see it.
Posted by: sosupernova | March 19, 2009, 12:07 am 12:07 am
So, let me get this straight. In the middle of this mess, the Republicans want the President to also deal with replacing his Treasury Secretary…that right? Anything else we can put on his plate?
Posted by: LisaB | March 19, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Mr.Geithner should either step down or be fired.He was part of the first TARP which failed,and knew about the AIG bonuses all along.He is part of the problem!
Posted by: Kim | March 19, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
It is completely reactionary to be calling for Geitner to step down regardless of his roll in the AIG bonuses. We are in the middle of a crisis and he has a major roll in trying to turn it around. If he resigns who will take his place? There is no deputy at this time? How long will it take for the new pick to be confirmed? What will happen to the economy in the meantime? The administration will have to work quickly to squelch the calls for resignation and fire at Geitner’s door but resignation for Geitner would be disaster for Obama that is why republicans would like it to happen.
Posted by: Denise | March 19, 2009, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Were any of the Presidents or Politicians who promoted slavery asked to step down? There’s too much finger pointing at this brilliant President and his decisions just because he’s Black. He runs circles around the warped minds who thought it was ok to enslave a human being and call them three fifths of a person. For those of you who can’t get over it, maybe the conservative talk show hosts could use you in their cabinet.
Posted by: Pat | March 19, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Give Him time, Most people wait 8 years for this mess to get out of hand…So he has time to straighten it out..
Posted by: Cfordyy | March 19, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
I’ve got an idea: President Obama said that AIG and the bankers are like suicide bombers. If that’s true, let ‘em keep their bonuses and send them all to Afghanistan.
To LisaB: The one thing that we should insist the President put on his plate is the truth! Face it: he out and out lied to us when he feigned outrage over the bonuses that he had no idea about when he pressured Sen. Dodd to ensure the Stimulus Bill was amended to protect the AIG bonuses. That’s Change I just don’t believe in!
Posted by: Voter2Be | March 19, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Patience – this is a major mess. It will take time for this situation to corrected. We need people like Geithner on the job.
Posted by: VanLear | March 19, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am
If Geithner knew about the bonuses, it’s a no-brainer. Besides, didn’t the outcome of his first news conference, outlining his economic stimulas plan, result in a
down investing day at Wall Street because he was vague. Seems like this should not be an on-the-job training position.
Posted by: Mark | March 19, 2009, 12:21 am 12:21 am
VanLear: I respectfully disagree.
We need people like Geithner to pay their taxes.
Posted by: Voter2Be | March 19, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am
I know american people is mad at american international group or AIG but why does Timothy Geithner has to take the blame on the third month of the admintration. give him a brake. he onily been in the admontration for not that long. at lease the obama admintraion takeing action. that something you dont see the bush admintration doing. yes that was a mistake for him. but he is learning. and obama is backing him.
Posted by: Anthony Moya | March 19, 2009, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Geithner gotta go!
Posted by: Voter2Be | March 19, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
What if AIG,had filed for bankruptcy?. How would they have been paid?, or could’nt they have waited until the company start making profit before they start paying those bonuses with tax payers money?. Therefore, if Tim GEITHNER HAS PRIOR KNOWLEDGE before the “pay OUT”, I think he should step down.
Posted by: philomina fasae | March 19, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
Giethner is funny. The first time I saw him giving a speach, it looked like he was hidding something or at least that is what my instinct picked up. BO, are you too much into yourself not to see? I give you credit though for standing by your man but consider the cost.
Posted by: nobrainer | March 19, 2009, 12:27 am 12:27 am
I don’t have confidence in Timothy Geithner but the real responsibility here is with President Obama. Presidents almost always stand by their staff even though they sometimes later have them take the fall. I cannot find the performance in this latest incident acceptable. There was lots of negative press about golden parachutes and the like in recent months. In this go around with AIG I don’t believe the contract to pay “retention(?)” bonuses was a secret. Geitner either knew about it or should have known about it. People in the Senate had taken measure to premptively prevent such payments within AIG. They obviously knew of the situation. Unfortuantely powers in conference committee chose to strip those preemptive measures. That was either naive rotten judgement or, worse yet, another case of bipartisan bickering where a majority party refuses to give any credit to wisdom in a minority party. I think it was most likely the latter and both parties have been guilty of this awful behavior in recent decades. Many say give the guy a chance. But our econmic situation is just too serious a matter to entrusst it to a novice of questionable integrity. If the apparant bad choice for secratary proves to indeed be a bad choice, I hope our President will not make a further mistake by sticking with him too long. It is better to admit the mistake and move on than to continue in the folly.
Posted by: Ray | March 19, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Geitner knew about the bonuses 2 weeks before they were supposed to be paid. I have read that the news media was running stories on this last December. O.K. so he new about it 2 weeks before they were paid. Obama says he first heard about it last Thursday. Did they not talk for almost 2 weeks? It would be amazing that your Secretary of the Treasury knew about this serious situation and didn’t even inform you of it! Boy, I really believe that! Say it was true how efficient does that make Geitner? It is his job to advise the Presedent and it looks like he failed miserably. He should go or Obama should go(preferably the latter). One of them failed and lied. Either Geitner told Obama and he was to busy visiting England or something and didn’t do anything to stop it or Geiner didn’t do his job and tell him. Geitner started out saying that he didn’t know about the bonuses until a reporter found out he did know so he lied about that. In my opinion putting someone who was found to have cheated on his taxes is like putting a drug addict to work at the pharmacy. This whole thing keeps getting harder and harder to believe. We have such morons in charge!
Posted by: larry | March 19, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am
He’s been an embarrassment from the beginning. His departure is long overdo.
Posted by: BIGyin22 | March 19, 2009, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Dodd is saying that the feds knew of the provision for removing bonuses off the stimulus bill..
If Geithner was part of this, like he was back in sept. of 2008, then he should be removed….
But first the whole truth must be revealed and right now its not… too much is still not being reported.
For now, until the whole story is out there, I say let him stay… but if its found out that he did know about all this… then he has to go… no matter what.
Posted by: lm | March 19, 2009, 12:38 am 12:38 am
By merely putting Tim Geitner in this cabinet post, Obama has told the good ol’ boy network of Corporate fatcats and Wall Street theives “Hey guys, Its business as usual.” these bonuses were no epiphany, they were common knowledge for a long time, on paper, in contract form! Are Obama’s “Intel” sources really this bad or have Obama and his “Chicago-Clinton” cabinet of idiots been deluding each other?
either way the “I plead ignorance” defense won’t WASH. Sorry Tim you gotta go!!! Your past track record with other administrations speaks volumes.You have done a great job of cancelling your own FUTURE…
Posted by: The Pro from Dover | March 19, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Geithner should resign; what is going on!!!! The out of control spending isn’t enough?? Now, every democrat is faking outrage after the fact. Do they really think people are that stupid to believe, they had no clue.
Posted by: Elaine | March 19, 2009, 12:43 am 12:43 am
he is tainted..he will never live down the fact that he himself avoided paying taxes…intentionally or unintentionally…his job is that he should have dug into this bonus issue…It’s called due diligence…sorry liberals that’s the fact……
Posted by: nash | March 19, 2009, 1:00 am 1:00 am
There is no reason for Geithner to step down. This is a circus, and he is the least problem.
The largest problem is ignorance and news coverage feeding the ignorance
Posted by: JDS | March 19, 2009, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Mr. Geithner should resign.
Posted by: HGM | March 19, 2009, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Each of us deserves a chance to improve on the job. Can you imagine how you’d feel if you were held accountable for this big of a mess after less than 2 months on a new job? Heck, you’ve barely figured out where the pens and staples are. Wouldn’t you feel like the fall guy?
AIG execs got paid millions in bonuses *after* doing a horrendous job.
Geithner deserves the opportunity to show us what he’s really made of — under normal pressure conditions. I’d like to see what he can accomplish with a full staff and some sleep!
Posted by: Diane G | March 19, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Each of us deserves a chance to improve on the job. Can you imagine how you’d feel if you were held accountable for this big of a mess after less than 2 months on a new job? Heck, you’ve barely figured out where the pens and staples are. Wouldn’t you feel like the fall guy?
AIG execs got paid millions in bonuses *after* doing a horrendous job.
Geithner deserves the opportunity to show us what he’s really made of — under normal pressure conditions. I’d like to see what he can accomplish with a full staff and some sleep!
Posted by: Diane G | Mar
Diane , it seems as if he has been asleep. That is the problem! He has had plenty of company in dreamland though.
Posted by: larry | March 19, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
It all boils down to policy–and so far Geithner has proven he hasn’t got what it takes. Faking outrage after the fact was known is nothing short of hypocritical. When I learned that the stimulus bill was passed without anyone being able to read it first was more than astounding. Is this how things are going to be?? Where is the transparency promised??
Posted by: Elaine | March 19, 2009, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Leave Geithner alone for a while. Lots of people knew about these bonuses apparently including Bernanke. Geithner is not the best communicator but he’s trying — still finding his way around. Does anyone remember what it’s like to walk into a new job? We’re all mad as hell and we focus on AIG because at least we understand that bit. The Republicans are trying to pin all this on Geithner. They have amnesia for anything before January 20th! All this goes back to how Paulsen structured everything, all by himself, without any oversight or supervision, changing from day to day. But no, they don’t talk about Paulsen or Bush! They’re trying to re-write what happened and letting Geithner who just came on the scene take the fall. Where were all those Republicans when they were running up the deficit, getting rid of any kind of regulation and marching off to wars?
Posted by: inthewest | March 19, 2009, 2:04 am 2:04 am
” The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.” Adolph Hitler 1933
Lies are Lies anyway you look at them!!!
when this whole thing shakes out I think the people will see that it will come full circle to bite both Geitner and Obama in the ass.
In the case of our economy, FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION !!!
No room for plausible deniability…we find ourselves with the inmates running the asylum…with these cretins as our leaders, I fear for our Nation…this is not a time for stupid partisan bickering, both parties can be tarred with the same brush…Congress and the Senate both had knowledge of the facts before the bailout was accomplished.
The people need..No…DEMAND to know the truth !!!
Posted by: Nachthexe | March 19, 2009, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Let the guy fix it. People need to start taking into consideration the situational factors and look outside the box. This is what we call the “Fundamental Attribution Theory”…
Americans always underestimate situational influences and overestimate the dispositional ones.
Posted by: Ardeshir | March 19, 2009, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner should be FIRED! for ineptitude. The US treasury is not a cookie jar, you do NOT transfer the mega ca$h that is taking place without absolute certainty of accountability. He is a high ranking individual, and we expect high ranking results. WE THE PEOPLE, that own 80% of AIG, need not to ask too many questions … start firing executives left and right. Somebody PLEASE have some brass cojones and start replacing abusive and/or incompetent executives!
Next is Merrill Lynch, wait for the news on bonuses from those other PIGS.
Uncle Sam should confiscate everything any fraudulent “executive” owns, kill his goat, have s_e_x with his wife, date his daughter, and p_i_s_s on his coffee.
Amen.
Posted by: We The People | March 19, 2009, 3:15 am 3:15 am
Geithner is either a tax dodger/evader or totally irresposible. Both are bad so GET RID OF HIM!!!! If President Obama wants to redeem himself, he needs to fire Geithner besides he was part of the team who originally worked out the TARP $$ deal with Paulson on Bush’s watch. Paulson and Geithner are the same. Oh yeah get rid or the liars in congress like Barney Franks and Chris Dodd FIRE them Too!!! Remember Franks is the one who said that Fannie and Freddie were just peachy. We bailed them out!!! re: AIG Oh yeah don’t forget President Obama and Sen. Dodd were the two largest recipients of campaign contributions from the beleaguered company, and the only politicians to garner six-figure amounts from AIG in 2008 — $103,100 for Sen. Dodd and $100,332 for presidential candidate Obama. So much for TRANSPARENCY and no earmarks sounds like the Obama is just the SAME as the rest a Politician who will say anything to get elected and to payback his favors instead of looking out for us (the average American)
Posted by: lee | March 19, 2009, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Give the guy a break. Americans are too used to instant gratification. It took 8 year plus to get in to this mess, and this bailout began before the Obama Administration even took office. Let’s see how they go about fixing the AIG debacle. I have total faith and like what I’ve seen so far; big, positive changes have come fast and furious since even before the day the Administration changed, all for the better, in my humble opinion. Geithner deserves a chance.
Posted by: Cheri | March 19, 2009, 3:25 am 3:25 am
Geithner wrote the bailout clause that included those bonus payouts.
Geithner should be held responsible for his actions.
Posted by: Greg h | March 19, 2009, 3:39 am 3:39 am
Geithner had to have known about these bonuses. He should not have released additional billions to AIG without an agreement that this bailout money would not be used for bonuses. It’s quite a pity and he should step down.
Posted by: Quinder M. French | March 19, 2009, 3:42 am 3:42 am
It´s time for the buck to stop here, Geithner is a mental set from the past, an A.I.G. type himself. The time for correction is now, Obama should kindly drop him, and demonstrate that what he promised he means to practice. Not only the A.I.G. is guilty of treasonous bonuses, also my own bank in Philadelphia, PNC Mr. Rohr and company they got 3 million each-J. Wolf
Posted by: John | March 19, 2009, 4:52 am 4:52 am
Geithner should not step down. Most of the edealings were done through the FED. Reserve to begin with. The law was wrtten by Congress.
All these p[olitical lackies want a fall guy that is all.
I listened to the GOP fight against executive compensation restrictions last Sept. when thwey were telling us that if there was limits they would not accept out help, now thwy sing a different phoney tune.
Posted by: Thinking | March 19, 2009, 6:16 am 6:16 am
No he should not step down. The GOP needs to curb the rhetoric (because that is all it is) as they bear some of the responsibility for this meltdown. Perhaps they think that pointing fingers and complaining about Geithner will distract everyone from their responsibility for the financial mess this country is in after eight years of Republican mismanagement of our government. Geithner should be left alone to do the job he was hired to do. Neither he nor anyone else can solve these problems instantly. Give the man a chance.
Posted by: Brian | March 19, 2009, 7:10 am 7:10 am
It is true that we are held accountable for messes that we didn’t get ourselves into when we take new management positions. But if there is a contractual obligation on paper for retention bonuses, then I can see how TG felt he needed to honor that part of the business, given everything else going on. Bad judgement – probably. Will he make the same mistake again, lets hope not. Will he make more mistakes, yes. But there’s a big mess to fix here and its going to take time to fix it. He hasn’t even been in this job for 8 weeks. I know, you all think – well he ran the Fed in NY so he’s a Hank Paulson clone – not true. I agree the guy needs to work on communication skills, getting more people to work for him (transition team – where are you?) and having a “main street gut check” somewhere out there. But the reality is he inherited a mess and he’s got to be given time to figure it out.
I challenge any of you to walk into a new job where the previous guy left you four years of unfinished, behind schedule, overbudget, poor quality projects and handle them all perfectly in 8 weeks. I appreciate its our money and your ticked off that a-holes like AIG aren’t hurting when we are economically, but T.G. is not the guy to be hanging.
Andrew Cuomo is doing a good job at starting to put together a case to prosecute some of these guys – that’s where the energy should be – who committed the fraud in these companies and how can they be prosecuted. Have your congress rep throw some resources that way, and you’ll get your justice and stablized economy too.
Posted by: Probationary Period | March 19, 2009, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Geithner should not step down….the senators who opposed government involvement in regulating the salaries and bonuses, should step down. These Senators stated the Obama’s administration was “socializing” big businesses, and he was dictatorial in suggesting this. Now the Big Mouth NO Guys are screaming about The Bonuses. These people are trying as hard as possible to drive our economy and country in an abys. The American people are going to stand by this Administration because we can “see” and has been “seeing” for years just what these NO MEN is doing and has done. The Big Financial institution that was in the pockets of the Bush Administration is doing exactly what it’s been doing without regulations. They should be prosecuted, with full court pressing. This isn’t new….the NO Men are pushing to regulate the Auto workers pensions, insurance, bonuses, But they don’t want these institutions regulated. GO FIGURE.
Posted by: sngeorgia | March 19, 2009, 7:56 am 7:56 am
To be honest, this is alot of Hot Air….from these air heads on Capital Hill. They should leave government,because they’re only there to run another election cycle, get elected and put the “real Communist” in there. We have a judicial system that works well. The American people owns 80% of this company…..put your anger in the right direction. Apparently alot of you commenting has misplaced anger.
Posted by: sngeorgia | March 19, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Mr. Geithner deserves more than a little more time to do his job. He is working hard as he can, at fixing the mess left by the last eight years. Time for the loud mouthed Republicans to look in a mirror, and ask that person in the mirror…who created this fiasco. This started on their watch, while they were playing “yes” men to GWB! Barbara
Posted by: Barbara | March 19, 2009, 8:07 am 8:07 am
Step Down or commi…ah, I mean get fired.
Posted by: ajax | March 19, 2009, 8:13 am 8:13 am
I abhor this situation like the rest who have posted here, BUT the treatment Mr. Liddy received from legislators yesterday was uncalled for. Total grandstanding for the folks back home in the face of a decent man. Liddy, too,has just stepped into the quagmire and was not CEO when the bonus contracts were written.
Do I understand it correctly that the AIG office involved is in Connecticut and that state has a law giving employees the right to sue for double the amount of the bonus if not given as contracted? Perhaps there is more information Geithner et al were working with that we out here in Smartville don’t know. Give everyone a chance.
Posted by: Colorado Dem | March 19, 2009, 8:33 am 8:33 am
I don’t think Geithner should step down. He is doing a good job to clear up the mess that was created by Bush and Paulson. Paulson should be blamed on this AIG issue.
Posted by: Ivan | March 19, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Geithner has nothing to worry about. He’s not leaving. Think about it. Whose going to make him leave? The Republicans? HaHaHa! Only Obama can make him leave and he is not going to. End of story.
Posted by: leftyintexas | March 19, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Geithner gotta go! I’ve said this in the very beginning when the public learned that he owed tax and they were about to start the confirmation hearing. BO’s setting a bad precedence similar to when Bush turned to Michael Brown and said good job on Katrina. Geithner has no leadership quality – he’s a follower who may have been good with taking orders from the “Good Old Boy’s Club”, but poison to the American People. I expected any Sec. of Treasurer to have had the foresight to install new rules in writing and have an oversight body of the Govt. to oversee how hand-out tax payer money would be planned and used. This applies to all of these companies, like Citi, Fannie/Freddie, etc. It’s no wonder that nobody wants to spend any money now – we’re better off allowing all of these corrupt companies die their natural deaths.
Posted by: Monkey Wrench | March 19, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
He stays. He hasn’t done anything sigficantly wrong IMO, and he has an enormous amount on his plate. I think has is doing very well under the circumstances. Only recently have his deputies been nominated. And, he is dealing with the worst set of financial crises since the Great Depression. Give the guy a break.
Posted by: roos | March 20, 2009, 1:51 am 1:51 am
Geithner is brillant. And camera-shy which is endearing. Not your typical politician. I trust him. “Leave Geithner alone for a while. Lots of people knew about these bonuses apparently including Bernanke. Geithner is not the best communicator but he’s trying — still finding his way around. Does anyone remember what it’s like to walk into a new job? We’re all mad as hell and we focus on AIG because at least we understand that bit. The Republicans are trying to pin all this on Geithner. They have amnesia for anything before January 20th! All this goes back to how Paulsen structured everything, all by himself, without any oversight or supervision, changing from day to day. But no, they don’t talk about Paulsen or Bush! They’re trying to re-write what happened and letting Geithner who just came on the scene take the fall. Where were all those Republicans when they were running up the deficit, getting rid of any kind of regulation and marching off to wars?”
Posted by: sprowlindak | April 6, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm