Geithner: Global Cooperation On Financial Crisis Strongest Since WWII
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports:
In an interview with ABC News’ Charlie Gibson on the eve of the G-20 summit in London, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said the rest of the world stands with President Obama to implement stimulus measures until recovery from the current global recession is assured.
Watch "World News with Charles Gibson" TONIGHT at 6:30 p.m. ET for the full interview.
The Treasury chief said any differences between the United States and other major countries are "dramatically exaggerated", with world cooperation, he said, at its highest levels since World War II.
"If you look at the scale of commitments already made, programs passed by national governments and moving now into the pipeline, it’s very very powerful and we want to make sure it’s sustained, that all countries — and we’re all in different circumstances — are doing what’s necessary to make sure in their individual economies they’re getting growth back, too. Each of our actions are going to be more powerful if we’re moving together," Geithner said.
"I think the world is with the president on this. I think there is very broad support for it. I think the differences you’ve seen are dramatically exaggerated. Now we are in fairly different circumstances each of us and what’s going to be necessary to each of our economies individually is going to vary, but I think this is the strongest moment of cooperation globally you’ve seen since the Second World War.”
Geithner said major countries also share "strong support" for financial regulatory reform measures.
“We’re going to see very strong support around that table tomorrow, in the next two days, very strong support around the world, to put in place the kind of reforms around the overall international financial system that will deliver a more stable, more sustainable, more balanced growth for the world economy, so that’s the most important thing. Countries share that basic objective."
Geithner refuted claims that the administration had a double standard for the auto industry after President Obama’s auto task force asked General Motors’ CEO Rick Wagoner to step down last week.
"We’ve already seen very very dramatic restructuring across our financial system," Geithner said. "Just step back and look at the institutions that existed a year ago, some of the large institutions in the country – the landscape of the financial system has changed dramatically over that period of time. And where we provide assistance to the financial system, we’re going to make sure it comes on conditions to make sure the system emerges stronger. There’s accountability where we need to and the taxpayers’ interests are protected. That basic standard and basic objective is the same across everything we’re doing to help get recovery back on track. Now it is going to require different things in different cases, but if you look at where the government has already acted, we’re meeting that test consistently."
"If you look at where the government has already acted, if you look at AIG, look at Fannie and Freddie, where we’ve had to do exceptional things, we’ve made sure that that comes with the kind of changes in management or the board necessary to make sure these banks, these financial institutions, emerge stronger," he added. "That’s our basic test."
Also today, the Treasury chief rejected complaints by oversight officials Tuesday that the Department had not done enough to increase the transparency and accountability of the Troubled Asset Relief Program. He called the complaints "unfair."
He also reiterated that there was $135 billion remaining in the program after the watchdogs told Congress that the actual amount left was closer to $32 billion.

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Ok, this is an April fools joke, right?
Posted by: No To Be Fooled | April 1, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Rick Wagoner was only the sacrificial lamb. I’m sure Rick will load his accounts with millions of dollars and relax for the rest of his life while sipping tequila poolside. LOL. What difference will that make for us hard working Americans??
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Yea sure you betcha!
Posted by: Bondservant1958 | April 1, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Wow really $135B left out of what $700B gone with no accountability. um that is probably enough left for politicians to give themselves a pay raise!
Posted by: Bondservant1958 | April 1, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
April fools. I guess that england is so overcome with joy that they had huge protests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Joe Average | April 1, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
if only we could get obama to be more like germany and sweden.. no bailouts for business’s that put themselves at risk
Posted by: realityville | April 1, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
“Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.” -
– Mayer amschel rothschild
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Why should anyone believe Geithner?
Posted by: Joe Average | April 1, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The presidents pick for HHW the queen govenor of Kansas did not even know that wine (grapes) are grown and bottled in her own state. And she hired a tax professional to do her taxes and a tax perfessional to review her taxes when she was picked. And today we find a mistake she claimed interest on a credit card used to pay off a house loan? which all of us non previlaged tax payers know cannot be done? Another Dem. I may join this party. Sounds like if you join you are exempt from paying your fair share in taxes.
Posted by: Jim Rod | April 1, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Why is it that Corporations can search high and low in every third world country for the cheapest supply and labor costs but yet that same courtesy is not extended to consumers without tariffs and exchange rates. Shouldn’t there be an exchange rate for minimum wage?? Wouldn’t that level the playing field and make things more fair? Why do groups that supply goods get to play by a different set of rules than groups who demand goods?
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
What a joke. There sure is a double standard. Auto’s- you fools came to Washington on private jets! Banks- Certainly didn’t come in horse drawn carriages. Autos- You want 6 billion dollar loan (gasp – thats a lot of money, here is your notebook of rules with all the strings attached and you have a deadline to meet). Banks- Here let us give you another 30 billion (no strings attached, no oversight, no deadlines). Autos- You are performing lousy, glad you decided to work for a dollar with no bonus. Banks- Here let us give out 210 million in bonuses after the worst performance in history (public outrage leads to govt. response). Autos- actually make something tangible and contribute to major manufacturing in this country. Banks- make bad loans, risky business deals and lead us into the worst financial predicament in decades, thereby impacting the ability of every other corporation, including the autos, to function in a healthy fashion. No double standard, give me a break!!!
Posted by: MF | April 1, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
So much for change! (Sigh)
Posted by: Jeremy | April 1, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Double standard? Double standard? Please, THIS coming from Turbo tax cheat Geitner? Plan, what plan? By taking over the banks and automotive businesses here sure sounds like socialism. Geitner REALLY needs to see what happend in 1933 when the same nations got together then. Spending does NOT always help. I guess Geitner still believes that FDR helped get us out of the depression instead of making it worse. Obama is spending more than the previous 43 Presidents combined!!! Please, someone give him a clue! We are in deep doo doo. I’m afraid that only a conservative in 2012 can help solve the damage this administration is doing.
Posted by: justrighttoo | April 1, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Bondservant1958:”Wow really $135B left out of what $700B gone with no accountability.”
That word… I don’t think it means what you think it means. Being grilled before Congress is accountability. Being hammered by your boss for spending political goodwill is accountability. The GAO running releasing their own numbers is accountability. The work by the TARP Inspector General is accountability. Seeing enormous resistance to getting further funding from Congress is accountability.
It’s far from perfect or even good enough, but saying there is no accountability while standing in a whirlwind of it makes it look like you live in some ignorant fantasy land.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 1, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
You’re assuming, of course, that we even make it to 2012
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
I just want one thing…justice. All this talk of the banks and autos. Union members, make sure to take careful notes, remember who had your children’s best interests in mind and 4 years from now vote accordingly. Hint- It’s not the Democratic party.
Posted by: CTC | April 1, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Oh Look — It’s another person duped into thinking our “system of accountability” really means something. LOL
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Jim Rod:”And she hired a tax professional to do her taxes and a tax perfessional to review her taxes when she was picked. And today we find a mistake she claimed interest on a credit card used to pay off a house loan? which all of us non previlaged tax payers know cannot be done? ”
So her hired professional made the error but it’s her fault? A mistake that “all of us” find obvious? That seems like a pretty ambiguous definition of what ‘mortgage interest’ is to me, but I guess I’m just not as clever as you. Personally, I would have trusted the guy I was paying to do the taxes.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 1, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
justrighttoo:”I’m afraid that only a conservative in 2012 can help solve the damage this administration is doing.”
Only an all Republican government pretty much from 2000-2006, and then a never-before-seen record number of filibusters and a Republican President in 2007-2008 could dig a hole this big. But that’s just reality, don’t mind it.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 1, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
justrighttoo:”I’m afraid that only a conservative in 2012 can help solve the damage this administration is doing.”
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I think the damage was already done. Stop the partisan bickering – the rich and elite thrive on it – only when we can unite as a country of working Americans AGAINST politicians can we progress beyond just simple bickering.
Democrats – realize that your party is responsible!
Republicans – realize that your party is responsible!
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
From his mouth to God’s ear.
Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | April 1, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Propaganda seems to be like nothing since Germany’s WWII. George Stephanopolis just had a story about how the Treasury cannot even keep track of where the trillions of dollars are going for Wall Street. Silly stuff going on with journalism.
Posted by: kathleen | April 1, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
No-the differences are “transparent”
Posted by: Denisea213 | April 1, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
BS.
Posted by: FedUp | April 1, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Geithner “everyone is honky dory – pass the joint”.
Posted by: DadR | April 1, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I don’t think most people are paying close enough attention to the tactics involved. The dismissal of Rick Wagoner was a shot across the bow to the anks. Obama is playing good cop/bad cop. Some of the big banks will be able to survive with this public/private partnership strategy to sell off toxic securities and bad loans, but some of them will have to be nationalized. When that happens, shareholders will be wiped off, management fired, and the bank gets wound down by the FDIC. Have you not been paying attention to Sheila Bair? Why do you think she’s signed on to Geithner’s program? Previously, Bair and Geithner were oil and water. This is a precurser of nationalizing some, but not all of the banks, if necessary. I imagine that in the coming days and weeks, more and more lower-level management will be dismissed, and more and more non-core businesses contained in these big banks will be sold and/or restructured. Ken Lewis of Bank of America is essentially a “dead man walking” for doing that incredibly stupid deal with Merrill. Obama Administration will save the banks that they can save, but one or maybe more than one will not survive. Just watch.
Posted by: Laura Brown | April 1, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Does anyone, anywhere on this planet believe him? No double standards, no disagreement with other countries, everything’s fine, go back to your job (if you still have one) and let us rich guys handle the dough. We’ll take care of you. Right.
Posted by: rebbyp | April 1, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
“…everything’s fine, go back to your job (if you still have one) and let us rich guys handle the dough. We’ll take care of you.”
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True enough!
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Double standards BEFORE,DURING&AFTER being elected!And today bho’s father’s half sister-here illegally from Kenya had a behind closed court date on her case!EXTENDED until February 2010!She’s living off of taxpayer’s–low income housing-& getting government protection!!She was at the inaug. & ceromonies!!
Posted by: Denisea213 | April 1, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
If Geithner’s mouth is moving, he’s lying….
Posted by: Lumberman_63 | April 1, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“…everything’s fine, go back to your job (if you still have one) and let us rich guys handle the dough. We’ll take care of you.”
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In a sarcastic sense of course! LOL
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
It must be April Fools? This is some more bull. The only programs passed so far are full of wasteful spending and the only one being helped is the governement. And now they want to stick their nose into the Tobacco industry. Lets see if they can screw that up also.
Posted by: Aircav | April 1, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
G20 is divided already.
I saw the crowd in London break the glasses of the RBS and the police and one man seemed to be hurt. What bloodshed of the poor innocent souls who want to say something but we have the elites and the poor and those who simply fail to hear all. I understand it is difficult to change few, but the small and the big manage the economy. Why, Why, Why, Why do we have these demonstrations on the streets in London and the crowd disturbance surprises me at the time of the elites meeting? There must be something wrong with the elites.
The leaders of France and Germany delivered a stunning ultimatum to Gordon Brown tonight when they demanded binding reform of world financial markets as the price of their support at tomorrow’s G20 summit.
Nicolas Sarkzoy and Angela Merkel made the comments at a joint press conference at which they promised that they would “speak with one voice” at the meeting in London’s Docklands.
Having already scuppered Gordon Brown’s plans for the summit to agree on a massive and coordinated fiscal stimulus, the two European heavyweights are demanding that it now move to do away with the “light-touch” Anglo-Saxon model of regulation blamed for the current economic crisis.
I thank you
Firozali A.Mulla
Posted by: Firozali A. Mulla | April 1, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Anyone know the difference between a politician and a plecostomas?
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A. One is a bottom-dwelling scum-sucker and the other is a fish.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
How do you know when a politician is lying?
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A. The lips are moving.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
People, you don’t need jobs. Just pour your money into stocks along with the billions given to the Wall Street gang.
Posted by: Joni | April 1, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Is that Mark Twain talking from his grave that ” the report of my death is greatly exaggerated ? “
Posted by: austin | April 1, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Boy: Dad, what’s politics?
Dad: Let me set an example with our family. I have all the money so we’ll call me the management. Mom receives most of it so we’ll call her the government. We’ll call the maid the working class, you are the people, and your baby brother is the future. Do you understand now son?
Boy: I still don’t understand dad.
Dad: Think about it for a while son.
That night the boy wakes up because his baby brother is crying. He goes in and finds out the baby soiled his diapers. He goes to tell his mom but she’s asleep he goes in to the maids room but she’s in there having whoopee with his dad. He bangs on the door but no one can hear him.
The next day…
Son: Dad I understand politics now.
Dad: Good, explain it to me in your own words son.
Son: The management is screwing the working class while the government is fast asleep. The people are being ignored and the future is in deep doo doo!
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I once suspected, but am now convinced, that ABCNews is completely & utterly in the tank for Barack and his new administration. Why would their LEAD headline grabbing story be a lone, one-sided opinion quote from Geithner? On the eve of the G-20 Summit, Geithner wants nothing more than to be a cheerleader for Barack because he realizes that the stories about Europe not being happy with Barack’s stimulus plan are TRUE. This is Geithner’s shoddy attempt at spin & it is so over the top that its laughable. Charlie Gibson, George W., Diane Sawyer; these people are not journalists. They are celebrities.
Posted by: PhillyPaul | April 1, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Bush’s fault! Gotta be… It is the liberal media that is trumping up these exaggerated attacks on our President! If Bush was not guilty of war crimes the world press would not be making up these lies about Obama!!!
Posted by: JChilman | April 1, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I agree with PhillyPaul, ABC and the rest of the media is FOR SURE in the tank for Obama. Where’s the story about our illustrious leader giving the Queen and iPod? Just forget about that little issue will we? And the MSM wonders why we don’t trust them. A blind man wouldn’t and couldn’t trust the MSM.
Posted by: GP McClure | April 1, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Anyone know the difference between a celebrity and a politician?
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A. Nothing.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Geithner should know exactly how much money is left, and how the money is being spent – down to the penny. The taxpayers should have this information as well.
The idea of transparency is great.
The actuality of transparency is needed.
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The world needs to co-operate. It’s down to the nitty-gritty now – survival.
Co-operation is in. Grandstanding is out – for now.
Posted by: when push comes to shove | April 1, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
republicans are so stupid and petty ,in general anyway .
there is no need for supporting arguments for this assertion . just read a few republican posts,here and elsewhere and the blatant unfortunate truth is all too easy to see.
even their “intellectual champions ” (like george will /ann coulter ) are looked upon with a growing dubious regard , and no wonder.
the republican party has a pulse ,but it has been brain dead for +40 years.
time to pull the plug…
Posted by: Bill Franklin | April 1, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Oh, how cute, the photo ops of the Obamas at Buckingham palace. I wonder how long they prepped for that one? I’ll bet the makeup artists made big $$ on that contract. LOL!
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
APRIL FINANCIAL FOOLS DAY.
Posted by: CW | April 1, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Baloney!
Posted by: Allan J Krueger | April 1, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Washington and Wall Street created massive debt-fueled bubbles by convincing Americans to BURY ourselves in debt so we could spend like there was NO tomorrow. Why in the world would the rest of the world want to follow this strategy? Time to adjust. No more: “IN DEBT WE TRUST.”
Posted by: sarah | April 1, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Here’s to hoping the liberals make this usa so wildly liberal that the republicans all leave en masse.
talk about happy days…
Posted by: Kenneth Davis | April 1, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
GP McClure, if you don’t trust “MSM” then poof-poof be gone. isn’t it easier to tune in to Rush and not have to worry about having your own opinion or being informed when you can just mindlessly follow the great Limbaugh?
Posted by: Paul Wall | April 1, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Didn’t everybody get the memo?
Co-operation is ‘in’.
Posted by: Tim G. | April 1, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
sarah:”Washington and Wall Street created massive debt-fueled bubbles by convincing Americans to BURY ourselves in debt so we could spend like there was NO tomorrow.”
This is not the fundamental problem. The problem is that banks did not properly assess the risk of people being unable to repay the debts. Stupid individuals are a given, but it is breathtakingly shocking that banks would so completely neglect their fundamental job of properly assessing risk and protecting their shareholders. This is what Greenspan has publicly held up as his excuse for his monetary policy – he simply did not believe that bank management had become so insulated from the health of their corporations as to be so reckless.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 1, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Let’s see ACORN organize a protest bus to all the GM and UAW execs who are still getting paid big $$$ with bailout funds. Let’s see Congress publically demonize not only the executives but all employees of GM the way the did for every working stiff at AIG. That’s parity.
Posted by: bct | April 1, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
One thing is for sure , democrats did not ,and could not have done much law making or agenda passing over the past 8 years ; there was a republican president who could ,would and did veto anything even slightly out of line with hard core republican ideology( i.e. preserving and increasing the wealth of a very few at the cost of the average joe/josephine.)
Add to that a rabidly partisan republican majority in house and senate , who did in fact earmark any democratic proposal that somehow DID make it up to the table for a vote (rare) so to make said legislation republican in essence/effect.
Add to that blue dog democratic moderates [read : tepid republicans who can’t get elected in their state running as republicans…) playing footsie with the republicans ,and you have the situation at present, at least before mr obama.
It was fun at least while it lasted wasn’t it? and easy to do with a majority , as the republicans are now finding out ,now that the shoe is on the other foot.
Anyone who says this financial mess is the democrats fault is a revisionist liar ,and thats all there is to that…
Posted by: Dean Kolt | April 1, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Summary of America financial policy: ” Double or nothing on tax payer’s money”
P.S. Dont forget to tip BIG the executioner(i.e. Banker and CEO) of the Gamble.
Posted by: Swiftlearner | April 1, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I agree Dean , blue dog democrats like clinton were a big part of the problem .
True liberals are in charge now and the republicans still in office are trying their best , without success, to obfuscate/charm /bribe/ lie their way back into some measure of legitimacy and power but guess what?
THIS PRESIDENT ISN’T FALLING FOR IT !!
GET READY TO GET SOAKED RICH ELITISTS ,REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT ALIKE!!!
Posted by: Running Bear | April 1, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Ya right! The banks are like giant black holes they throw money at without question. The automakers which provide good jobs and represent the real economy are chastised for not being able to sell cars in an environment that the banks and wall street have created. Pathetic!!
Posted by: rightbehind | April 1, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
They use to call Clinton slick willie, now they need to call Obama slicker than willie. Notice how he fired the GM CEO and then made a point about how the bond companies were not cooperating but failed to say little of anything about the UAW????? Whats up here you might ask??? Very simple, Obama just paid back the UAW for supporting him and most of you never even saw it.
Posted by: billy bob | April 1, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
No double standard in our current government?
I’m gullible but not that gullible. The double standard is one set of laws for the elite and another set for the rest of us. I owe the IRS and they threaten to take everything I own. One of the elite owes the IRS and they give him a cabinet position.
That’s change I can believe in alright.
Posted by: Oonogil | April 1, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
No double standard in our current government?
I’m gullible but not that gullible. The double standard is one set of laws for the elite and another set for the rest of us. I owe the IRS and they threaten to take everything I own. One of the elite owes the IRS and they give him a cabinet position.
That’s change I can believe in alright.
Posted by: Oonogil | Apr 1, 2009 3:24:28 PM
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Classic rhetoric and hyperbole.
I just wanted you to know I am going to use your post as an example in my legal class . Thanks.
(note: you may want to work on your objectivity skills a little ,just a friendly observation/suggestion)
Posted by: Dean Kolt | April 1, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
How did obama “fire” anyone?
thats just really really stupid …
Posted by: haha | April 1, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
chard Apr 1, 2009 3:26:43 PM posted,
“Do you libs not see the lies right in front of you? Do you not see the gov’t take over of everything private?”
Relax. Not sure why I’m trying to explain this to you, but here’s the deal. Other people who are “libs” have trouble connecting your dots. It’s not clear how GM going into bankruptcy (as if that’s somehow “bad”) automatically leads to the government taking over “everything private”.
Posted by: Mrs.Robinson | April 1, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
As much as I hate it – Frank W is right. To not bailout AIG would have sent markets nosediving without stopping until every market hit zero. Unemployment would have hit 30% or more and the spiral effect would then take hold and would have sent unemployment even higher. There would have been no bottom. We would all have been unemployed and dangerous since the government hasn’t yet succeeded in rounding up all the guns but they’re working hot and heavy on it. You can count on that. There was even a transcript aired between Bernanke and Bush that basically admitted as much. That is also why the republicans agreed to the deal. It all goes back to my same basic theory – They cut backroom deals all the time while “we the people” are clueless.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
chard Apr 1, 2009 3:26:43 PM posted,
“Do you libs not see the lies right in front of you? Do you not see the gov’t take over of everything private?”
Yea, I agree with Mrs. Robinson, that’s just a wee-bit paranoid.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Ok, if that’s the case then where is the money for the jobs of the employees of the Big 3? I agree that they’re not like you and the President. They don’t wear $500 – $1000 suits to work everyday but they’re voters, Mr Secretary. Tell the Messiah he’s making a mess of things by not keeping jobs for Main St. while bailing out Wall Street.
Posted by: WhatChange? | April 1, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
gm comes begging for taxpayer cash every week or so anymore .
aig actually tried to avoid any taxpayer help until the market completely fell out from underneath them , thanks largely to derivatives trading that was conceived/ allowed with patent support and legislation UNDER MAJORITY REPUBLICAN RULE!!
once the bottom did fall out aig had no choice but to ask for tarp money ,and the government had no choice but to give them what they needed to stay afloat…bankruptcy for aig is NOT a viable option ,while gm is considered by many analysts to be more or less redundant ,especially lately.
i will admit clinton and his band of pseudo-democrats ,who stooped low to play footsie with the republicans were partly to blame for the fionancial mess as well ,but mr obama isn’t of that ilk.
he is a real liberal (thank god!) and he will make the blue dog democrats get in line with his plans or be ignored.
Posted by: barker jot | April 1, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Simply put: If Banks fail..cars and all types of manufacturing will fail! GM, Chrysler and Ford should have never received bailouts over and over again…They are responsible for themselves and any tax money comes with strings attached. Banks cannot file for bankruptcy like you and I!
Posted by: Really? | April 1, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
George Soros said, “According to the White House budget, the estimated national debt, or debt held by the public, in fiscal year 2010 would equal approximately $81,000 per U.S. household.”
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Imagine that! The paper money that the federal reserve created out of thin air is now going to cost you and I $81,000. Someone’s getting rich but it’s not you and I.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
I need solutions not this crap. So if you have any lest here em.
Posted by: Tyrone Norwood | April 1, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
When the dollar falls to the value of monopoly money (which is coming), then everything we have traded for paper money becomes worth even more. You know, the important things like gold, silver, and land. Except now they have all that stuff and all you and I have are stock and bond certificates and boatloads of worthless crap and 401K statements.
Detroit may have problems building quality cars but Wall Street along with the feds are selling make-believe.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I wonder how many people are actually aware that AIG holds the policy on almost every 401K statement in the entire country. While I don’t agree with the bailout in principle, no bailout would have rendered worthless every 401K statement in America. I wonder if all you partisan republicans understand that?
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Um really “Really”, the only industries that have received repeated “bailouts” has been the BANKING industry. Give me a break. The autos have received 2 “loans” total. That is not the defenition of multiple. And the reason that the autos are struggling currently IS due to the failure of the banks, the failure to loan !!!! More than just autos are affected by this too. Several industries and thousands of companies are struggling or failing due to bank incompetency. There is clearly a double standard. America’s education system may be poor, but it’s not that poor. People aren’t that stupid yet that they can’t recognize a garbage statement when they see it.
Posted by: MF | April 1, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
I agree. The current situation that has caused many labor struggles, including union problems, and countless cycles of inflation and deflation causing numerous bankruptcies over the years can be blamed on the creation of the federal reserve and the world banking system. Detroit is not where the blame should be placed. It should be placed squarely on modern banking practices. It is true that periods of boom and bust existed even on the gold exchange, but not inflation and deflation, which is strictly a tool elites use to increase their coffers at the expense of everyone else (see my earlier post quoting Soros).
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Dean Kolt
No problem. Just make sure you quote me correctly and take nothing out of context. Make sure I get credit too.
Posted by: Oonogil | April 1, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
It is true that the markets will recover – they always do. The only question is when? If you can’t afford to wait it out, then you need to do what’s best for your family.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
When people aren’t buying and banks aren’t loaning, most times it’s related to a larger number of people who cannot afford the given economic environment at the time which goes back to the system given to us. Does anyone realize the price of food has more than tripled in the last few years of the bush economy? What about the gas prices? They have doubled and tripled as well. Of course a larger number of people are not going to be able to handle repayment of loans. Of course, illegals always get factored in to the equation so the politicians have another “dragon” they can slay. IMO, illegals should not even get loans. I realize that many people are still getting loans but our economy is built on mostly everyone getting loans which has dried up given the current cost of living for most folks. You want to stimulate the economy? Give back to the worker who can then afford to consume goods as well as take out loans.
Posted by: UsaForNow | April 1, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
NOW FEDERAL PROSECUTORS ARE SAYING THE MADOFF PONZI SCHEME STARTED JUST ABOUT THE TIME REAGAN TOOK OFFICE…BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE 1980S…
can you say duuuuuuuuh?
Posted by: phantasea | April 1, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
wow where to start, dean…. quit blaming everything on bush… when you burn the chili or stub your toe i bet you blame him too. really dean (or anyone else)… can you sit ther and tell me you are comfortable with barney, dodd, rangel, pelosi, barry, waters, and the rest of the gang? really? do you really believe that it was all the big bad republicans fault? i know dumb question. the fact is both are at fault. the cra is at fault… bush is at fault… carter, clinton, all of em. get over “your” team or the whole team loses.
Posted by: stickman | April 1, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
some people like stickman evidently are trying to revise history to suit whatever ,(perhaps their conscience) ,likely because they themselves voted overtly corrupt and disingenuous republicans into power ,condoning and perpetuating ,or at least tacitly supporting them and their abjectly failed policies/agenda .
talk about buyer remorse , if i had voted republican , i sure would feel bad and would probably be trying to pass the buck along to someone else…sound familiar?
the republicans ,who legislated partisan ideology as national policy using majority rule and the veto pen as weapons, WERE MOSTLY to blame for the CURRENT ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL WOES this nation is currently mired in.
that is the truth , accept it or not.
believe whatever you like , but the facts are out there (and i don’t mean your brand of “facts” stickman )
Posted by: Truth teller | April 1, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
hey lie teller, first things first…. i voted for kerry. glad that didn’t happen. second off, if you READ what i wrote you would notice that i blame repubs just as much as the dems. you are just to biased to see it. thats why you avoided my question… do you approve of these people? also keep in mind that feinstein voted for the bush tax cuts while mccain voted against them. its not as black and white as you try to make it. is feinstein a right wingnut? is she the war mongering, rush-bot, liberal hating repub you are talking about? probably not. get off the left right to and fro and maybe ill reply to your next post.
Posted by: stickman | April 1, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
there are moderate democrats and moderate republicans . i approve of whoever has legitimate answers to the problems this nation faces currently .
the republicans have proven over the last 8 years in particular they cannot lead , or be trusted to lead , for whatever reason be it greed ,stupidity or both.
the question is not who is moderate or extreme within either party , the real question is …which party actually crafted/made the laws which were passed over the last 8 years and which party held the veto pen?
can you answer that with an honest answer instead of blaming people (the bad ol democrats you named) who voted almost LOCKSTEP AGAINST republican b/s?
you can cherry pick one or maybe a few democrats who voted for tax cuts ,but look at the real truth…if you dare!
btw , heres a question for you mr unbiased….how many republicans voted AGAINST bush tax cuts ,and how many voted FOR the obama stimulus package?
Posted by: Truth teller | April 1, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
No one is saying mccain isnt a moderate who will cross the aisle once in a blue moon or that feinstein isnt a moderate who will cross the aisle rarely on occasion ; but the truth is that they arent typical representatives of their respective parties ideologies ,and that is why mccain lost ,and why the democrats would NEVER run such a flip floppy “democrat” as feinstein their nominee.
HE IS A MAVERICK!! (LOL)
Posted by: Bill C. | April 1, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
We obviously need re-education camps for republicans.
wait a sec…they would have to be somewhat intelligent and have the basic capacity to accept obvious facts for that plan to work.
scratch that idea…
Posted by: Dan the MAN | April 1, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Would it be too hard to explain to the American people what the ramifications would be if the government just gave us all like $100,000. I would think people would retire thus creating jobs, pay off housing or buy housing thus not needing the stress out the banks, get off welfare, pay off taxes easing the states burdens. Not to mention afford health care plans and buy goods, services, and product thus pumping money into the economy. Can we get an answer from Mr. Geithner please.
Posted by: D Williams | April 1, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Why would someone who voted for kerry be “glad that didnt happen”
That would imply that you preferred the last 8 years of bush and his prototypical republican elitist agenda ,wouldnt it?
imho kerry would have been much much better than bush ,and i dont think this country would be in as bad a shape had kerry actually won ,so while i condone your vote for kerry , i heartily condemn you for preferring an idiot like bush to him and for condoning the rest of the conniving republicans and what they did to this nation over the last 8 (really many more ,since reagan ) years.
Posted by: Granny Apple | April 1, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Granny apple, i am glad it didn’t happen because of all the crazy rhaetoric i’ve heard from kerry and gore. super to far to the left. i will say it again and again and again. bush stunk. we get it. that does not give this president the green light to spend us into oblivion. hey truth guy, i was going off of my memory, do not have time to look up that vote, however, the reason every republican voted against the stimulis is obvious…. it stinks. 787 billion of nothing. worthless spending. a joke. to counter your point how many dems voted against the stimulis? none. thats the problem. left or right they both have it wrong. you just can’t admit that the dems stink just as bad as the repubs can you? it hurts i know. take off the rose colored glasses and join the 1/3 of americans who are starting to realize its not who voted what, or dem this repub that…… they are all crooks and we need to take our country back. get it?
Posted by: stickman | April 1, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Who is the elephant and who is the ant?
Firstly, I read this sentence and had to think up of what elephant was in the room. No one asked President Barack Obama directly about the elephant in the room on Wednesday. I guess this was the meeting to find out the elephant and the ant. The public showed this to us in demonstrating. But he brought it up anyway, during a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown. A British reporter asked Obama about the proper size of government stimulus spending, and the U.S. President decided to talk about the perilous balance of global trade. We have none now as the USA deals extensively with this trade issue. USA stops buying and boycotts some, the ones who are out de a slow death begging for aids. Here Mr. Obama is very clear about the power USA.
“In some ways, the world has become accustomed to the United States being a voracious consumer market and the engine that drives a lot of economic growth worldwide,” Obama said, hinting that this position may not be sustainable. “We’re going to have to take into account a whole host of factors that can increase our savings rate and start dealing with our long-term fiscal position as well as our current account deficits.”
Now comes the issue of revealing the truth as it ought to be.
Doggedly optimistic in the face of doubts, President Barack Obama and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown predicted Thursday’s emergency G-20 economic summit would produce a significant global deal to tackle the deepening worldwide recession. Sarkozy and the German is clear and we see this in the net and TV. The words are harsher then ever before. Sounds like we have the 1930 coming back and staying with us. Read on.
Others weren’t so sure.
France warned on Wednesday that neither it nor Germany would agree to “false compromises” that soft-pedal a need for tougher financial regulation to curb abuses that contributed to the spreading chaos. And outside the carefully scripted meetings, protesters smashed bank windows and pelted police with eggs and fruit.
Now we talk of any deals. The British Police and the public take the hammering in their own home grounds and USA states that USA is the biggest partner in trade. Does USA pay for the blood of the deaths on the London streets? I wonder. The above reads as the visit of Obama as the trade only talk and no more. IF ONLY the rest of the world were run like China, the global financial crisis would be over much sooner. The World Bank predicts 6.5% growth. Even Mr Zhou sounded a note of caution. Asked whether China’s economic slowdown had ended he told reporters on March 28th, during a visit to Colombia, that it was “still uncertain”. The answer, he said, depended on whether the global financial crisis had yet “reached bottom”.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla
Posted by: Firozali A. Mulla | April 2, 2009, 2:48 am 2:48 am
Mulla, First, America has enough death on its streets to deal with, especially with illegal aliens ignoring our borders and laws. We will not bare the responsibility for the death in the streets of London.
Also, the US Fed and Treasury are playing a dangerous game with our currency and commerce. China has no choice but to back us: If they don’t, their exports suffer, which is a bigger problem than losses on Treasury Bonds. China is now paying a price for their monetary policy. This doesn’t mean Chinese people deserve to bare the burden of the policies of their gov’t, no more than USA citizens deserve to bare the responsibility to bare burden of Bush/Obama commerce policies, much less the economies around the world.
The core issue blocking recovery of the US economy (and world) identified a year ago–the mortgage mess–is still unresolved. TARP, bailout, none of the official acts has addressed that issue. FASB and congress are finally testing the waters of changing mark-to-market valuation, which would enable banks to set realistic values on assets in their portfolio. This is should have been the first step taken last year.
Gregg Marinelli
Posted by: Gregg | April 2, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
I might add, the conservatives urged that approach instead of the TARP, last summer. (note conservative does not always equal republican)
Posted by: Gregg | April 2, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm