Would a Shopping Bag Tax Make You Use Re-Usable Bags?
Paper, plastic or – neither?
That’s what environmentalists would prefer. Across the country, local governments are starting to enact shopping bag taxes in an effort to cut-down on the amount of waste the bags make. Some estimates are that every year 100 billion plastic bags and 10 billion paper bags are disposed. That means a loss of 14 million trees, and tons of used bags clogging up the nation’s landfills.
Outside the U.S., taxes on shopping bags aren’t new. They charge 33 cents per bag in Ireland, and 90 percent of shoppers there now carry re-usable cloth bags.
San Francisco took action and banned plastic bags two years ago, and the city council in Washington D.C. just approved a 5 cent tax per bag. But the question is – will it work? Will a bag tax cut down on waste, or is it just another expense for already cash-strapped consumers? How much would it have to cost per bag to get you to shop with re-usable bags?
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I use them because I do not like to produce unnecessary waste. Speaking of which, can we somehow stop the junk mail. I am against most government regulation, but there is a place for one.
Posted by: Huh | June 3, 2009, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
This is a GREAT tax – there is no reason why people can’t spend 99c for a cloth bag and reuse it. We need to focus on raising money for our communities and improving quality of life. Hopefully the bag tax will go towards local environmental improvements and/or public use funds.
Posted by: kapt | June 3, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I think its crap paying for bags,groceries are high enough as it is
Posted by: bob | June 3, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
THIS IS REDICULOUS NEXT THE GOVT WILL BE CHARGING YOU FOR TOILET PAPER USE IN PUBLIC PLACES. GET A LIFE.
Posted by: CHARLES LANE | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Every time I hear someone referencing “cutting down 14,000 trees,” to make paper, they always fail to mention that paper manufacturers are NOT cutting down national forests. Paper manufacturers cut trees on tree farms that are grown for making paper. Then the manufacturers plant NEW trees to replace the ones used. That’s recycling at the source!
Posted by: Tracy Sullivan | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I think people should be taxed, as long as the tax goes to environmental preservation, not to pork projects. I understand the concern for low income families, but the bags don’t have to be expensive, just functional.
Posted by: Katherine | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I don’t need a tax to get me to use reusable bags as I have been doing so for quite some time, but if it will get others to use them, then I would be in favor of a tax. Unfortunately I don’t think it would change the usage habits of the public at large. I think a ban on plastic bags would be a better first step.
Posted by: Cathy | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I’ll be willing to pay a tax when Nestle stops bottling water. I’ll be willing to pay a tax on paper or plastic bags when the products I purchase from the store isn’t in a paper, plastic, cardboard container (ever notice all that paper & plastic?)
Why not use tap water & glass containers?
Posted by: Gimme a BREAK | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I completely agree we should eliminate plastic bags and I use reusable bags often. However, I use paper bags most every week when I grocery shop because when I’m done with them I use them to collect my kitchen garbage instead of buying plastic bags. I see it as being doubly environmentally conscious!
Posted by: Marla | June 3, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
It’s been long since time that we start paying for the “embodied value” of all the trash produced by our current way of living. 5 cents a bag is cheap; it could be quite a bit higher.
In the last few years, we’ve been trying very hard to use only cloth bags and have been mostly successful. And lots of the bags we use were free give-aways, so there’s very little reason for people not to switch RIGHT NOW.
Posted by: Atlant | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Just the idea of this pisses me off. Trying to reduce waste is fine, but to me, this is just another way to drain money from already struggling consumers. I don’t believe this is the right way to go about making things better. Reusable bags cost more and are much less convenient…I don’t think charging a tax on plastic/paper bags is going to make people more environment friendly, because we are a nation of convenience.
Posted by: Shannon | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I’m all for a user tax for plastic/paper bags at the store. I currently bring my own reusable ones. But I’m very curious as to how much of a gain this is for stores. They must benefit from customers bringing their own bags because it means they don’t have to supply as many. Is the reduction in their costs reflected in their prices? Or, better yet, what they ought to do, is pay the customer 5, 10, 15 or whatever cents per bag the customer supplies!
Posted by: mhugos | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I already use them. BUT I still use the small bags in the fruit and vegie setion since many of the fresh items I buy are wet. Taxing these would be annoying.
Posted by: K B | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Taxes are annoying but not as annoying as people who thoughtlessly use tons of these plastic bags. People, bring your own bag to the grocery store, the hardware store, everywhere. Its easy. In the meantime, yes, lets put a 25 cent tax on all plastic and paper bags. This is NOT a “tax on the poor.” Anyone can bring their own bag to the store – this is matter of education and incentive not an attack on anyone.
Posted by: CHinNYC | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
My owner uses the plastic bags to clean my litter box. I don’t think it matters if she uses grocery bags or buys plastic bags to do so but either way we would have to pay.
Duncan Frevert
Posted by: Duncan Frevert | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Everyone should have cloth bags, i have done so for years. Even when I forget one I refuse plastic or paper bags and put my items in the car without a bad.
People should stop being so lazy, just say no to plastic bags at the check out. If it is small put it in your purse, if not just take it to the car and unload it at home. You probably need the exercise.
Posted by: Corinne Broskette | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
so if there is a tax on plastic bags, does that mean a refund on those bags that are brought back to the store to be recycled? i would hope so.
Posted by: allen neitsch | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I try very hard to use cloth bags rather than plastic or paper. I feel guilty when I bring items home in a paper or plastic bag. If I go to a store and I forgot my cloth bags, and I only have a few items I often ask to go without a bag. My local grocery store offers a $.5/bag refund when you use cloth or even recycle old paper or plastic bags.
Posted by: Heather | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
SILLY TAX TOILET PAPER USE AND JUNK MAIL.
Posted by: CHARLES LANE | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
It would help immensely if the sackers at the grocery stores would put more than one item in each bag.
Posted by: Patti | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I have a problem for a tax on paper bags. I understand the concept to get people to stop using them so less trees are cut down, but many people, like myself, use paper bags instead of plastic to recycle all my junk mail, newspapers, etc. in. I do have re-usable cloth bags, but sometimes, you just have too many groceries for not enough bags.
Speaking of recycling, why can’t they start making RECYCLED paper bags? Hmm?
Posted by: Sean | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
It’s a great idea. I already use the Whole Foods bags, for shopping. They are great for the Farmer’s Markets, where I reuse plastic bags, too. We could use them for other items, as well. I remember using my own “bolsa” when I shopped in Mexico.
Posted by: Charlotte Herzele | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Europeans have been doing this for years, and I think it is about time US consumers started doing their part.
Posted by: John | June 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
to make it really work?
50¢ minimum…
Ireland did it. everyone can. it’s a no-brainer.
Posted by: mike/ | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Instead of taxing the paper and plastic bags why not give a credit to those who bring in their own?
Posted by: Gerriann | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I hate the government forcing this. If I want to recycle I will do it on my own. More taxes are not the answer. I have lived in Europe and seen how their governments, SOCIALISM, force people to do things like this and it’s sad. We are the USA, lets get back to acting like it!
Posted by: world travelers | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I’ve been carrying my own bags for years and am still encounter push-back from the cashiers and bag “boys”. They say it is harder to bag, especially groceries, so I always offer to help which also is usually met with a look of distain. Nevertheless I continue to use my own bags. I estimate I get less than 1 disposable bag a week.
Posted by: Sherry Gibbs | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I would be glad to use reusable bags. However, does that mean that I have to now buy plastic or paper bags to line my wastebaskets? I already re-cycle all the plastic and paper bags we get. Seems to me that this is another one of those things that hasn’t been fully thought through.
Posted by: SML | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I hate plastic bags and take my own cloth to the store. There should be a surcharge for using the store plastic because they are choking our landfills and are often found in trees and water outside. At least paper will biodegrade and can be made from recyclable material.
Posted by: Jennifer | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Probably the only way to get people to stop using paper or plastic is to add a tax. I hate to see it though because it is just another expense on the poor working class.
How about we send all the garbage one way to the moon?
Posted by: Betty Townsend | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Why doesn’t somebody come up with biodegradable plastic bags?
Posted by: Virginia | June 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I use the resuable bags and keep them in my car so I have access to them. I feel the stores should have to pay the tax per bag they issue. Maybe this will stop them from placing 1-2 items in the bag then going to a second one. I hated it when I would walk out with a ton of bags that would only be about 2-3 paper bags. I love the resuable bags and feel we should get a credit when we use them.
Posted by: MJ | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Americans generally do not go for “punishments” they would rather pay the shopper tax then remember to bring the bags with them to the stores. I remember back in NJ there was a store who offered incentives if you brought your own bags or even reused plastic bags. You would recieve 5 cents off for each bag you brought in, people would come into the store with a bag stuffed full of plastic bags. This would solve any problems of “unfairly targeting the poor”
Posted by: Ziporah Paskman | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I would not pay a tax on shopping bags because it is ridiculous for any company or government legislative to ASSUME they have the AUTHORITY to charge a tax on a way for me to transport my goods that I have already paid for to my home or wherever I may use those goods.
Posted by: Taxed_To_The_Max | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Tax plastic bags 25c each. They are made from oil based product and take hundreds of years to decompose. I use cloth bags almost all the time.
Posted by: David Hay | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
A great many people re-use plastic and paper grocery bags to dispose of trash and cat litter. Would you prefer that we buy NEW plastic bags for those purposes?
Posted by: tippi | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Taxes like this make me want to punch the person who suggested it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with paper bags. Completely renewable and biodegradable. All you green freaks that want to tax everyone out of their cars and back to their tents make me really mad.
Posted by: me | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I’m
Posted by: Gordon | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Why not give a discount to those who DO use the resuseable bags?
Posted by: Joyce | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I have a cottage in Ireland and you are right in your report, they do charge around 30 cents per bag and everyone carries a canvas bag
It is a way of life there along with many other ‘green’ actions. There is a pride in how they treat the Earth and a respect for all things.
Unfortunelitly we here in America have become a throw away society :(
Posted by: Kathy Monahan | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
When we lived in Italy, they charged per bag and you had to ask the cashier for the bags. Those who did not have reusable bags, stuffed as much into one sack as possible, so as to use as few as possible.
I have bought my reusable bags, but I often forget to take them to the store. If I knew I was going to pay more I would probably remember.
I disagree that this tax would put a hardship on anyone. It is not that expensive to get reusable bags to easily avoid such a tax. Most stores sell them for $1 or less.
Posted by: Texas20s | June 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I would not have to pay the tax because I would be the first in line with re-usable bags.
Posted by: Carol | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I believe that one should carry their own cloth bags to the supermarket. Plastic or paper bags should be banned completely. Its just sounds a lot of trouble but we all will get used to it soon. And why not, for all the trees saved and less garbage to deal with!
Posted by: Sandeep Sharma | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
why doesn’t an industry come up with biodegradable plastic bags
Posted by: Virginia | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
This seems to be another bandaid solution to a serious problem. Why would we tax a consumer’s bag and allow manufacturers to produce so many plastic jars and bottles. I may be old but I remember deposits on glass bottles. Where did we go wrong!
Posted by: A.Cariddi | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Americans generally do not go for “punishments” they would rather pay the shopper tax then remember to bring the bags with them to the stores. I remember back in NJ there was a store who offered incentives if you brought your own bags or even reused plastic bags. You would recieve 5 cents off for each bag you brought in, people would come into the store with a bag stuffed full of plastic bags. This would solve any problems of “unfairly targeting the poor”
Posted by: Ziporah Paskman | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Yes, local governments should tax anything as wasteful and irresponsible
as the use of plastic and paper bags.
They should charge the same amount as what a cloth bag costs.
Posted by: Jenny Dean | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
i think that putting a tax on bags is a dumb ideal because one people spend enough money on food already and should not have to pay for the bags to carry their stuff. I would not pay for that i would flat out tell them just to put it in my cart and i will take it out one by one if i have to but i will not pay for the price of bags………
Posted by: brandy | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
A great many people re-use plastic and paper grocery bags to dispose of trash and cat litter. Would you prefer that we buy NEW plastic bags for those purposes?
Posted by: tippi | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
What is the big deal about buying a set of bags and taking them to the store when you shop? Americans are so incredibly spoiled and lazy! What has happened since the days when our ancestors fought for this country’s freedom? What has happened to common sense? Does America want to be thought of as the spoiled child?
Posted by: Barbara Balchunas | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I have been using reusable bags since the 80′s. Once you get into the habit of keeping them in the back seat of the car, it is no big deal. I am sure a tax would encourage the development of this habit in others. People do not realize that plastic bags are a petroleum product and their use is adding to our oil dependence. Also, the next time you are driving, count how many plastic bags you spot.
Posted by: Lill Becker | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I think a shopping bag tax is ridiculous. We are already taxed enough. I think that our government official should be working on alot more important things. I would think they have plenty to do other than sit around and think up things to tax the american people on and if that is all they have to do then we should probably be eliminating some of them from there positions like alot of other americans are loosing there jobs.
Posted by: Todd | June 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Americans generally do not go for “punishments” they would rather pay the shopper tax then remember to bring the bags with them to the stores. I remember back in NJ there was a store who offered incentives if you brought your own bags or even reused plastic bags. You would recieve 5 cents off for each bag you brought in, people would come into the store with a bag stuffed full of plastic bags. This would solve any problems of “unfairly targeting the poor”
Posted by: Ziporah Paskman | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
In the words of Jackie Gleason on the movie Smoky and the Bandit, “What the hell is the world comin’ to?”
Posted by: Shane | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
The higher tax per bag the better. I have reusable bags and keep them in my car. A tax on the plastic bags will make me purchase several reusable bags and keep some in each of my vehicles. Europe has used reusable bags for a long time. This simple solution is something all Americans can do for the environment and keep the use of crude oil to make the plastic bags down.
Posted by: Mark and Marie | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I use plastic bags to put dog poop in for the garbage, same as when I am walking her, to pick it up. Without plastic bags, am I to put it in a canvas bag and then throw that away? I also re-use plastic and paper bags to line the inside the house garage cans. Taxing the use of these bags is ridculous.
Posted by: Nancy | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
why doesn’t industry come up with a biodegradable plastic bag like they do for leaf collection
Posted by: Virginia | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
My local grocery chain has recycle bins for the plastic bags, while also selling and promoting their reuseable bags. I reuse the plastic bags too. They make great liners for waste baskets. Instead of taxing the use of bags, how about an incentive of 5 cents for using the bags. With money so tight for many families, why tax them even more? Those who are struggling to feed their families need to spend the money they have on the food for the table, and should not be penalized for using the bags when they can’t afford to buy a bag. That money gets spent on food not a bag. Stop making people feel guilty for not being able to afford to be politically correct.
Posted by: janet h | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I re use plastic and paper bags for my trash cans. If I can’t use them because of a tax, I’ll have to buy plastic trash can liners at the supermarket. This will not only cost me more than paying a bag tax but will also produce more trash than the original bags.
Posted by: stuart fisher | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Americans generally do not go for “punishments” they would rather pay the shopper tax then remember to bring the bags with them to the stores. I remember back in NJ there was a store who offered incentives if you brought your own bags or even reused plastic bags. You would recieve 5 cents off for each bag you brought in, people would come into the store with a bag stuffed full of plastic bags. This would solve any problems of “unfairly targeting the poor”
Posted by: Ziporah Paskman | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
A great many people re-use plastic and paper grocery bags to dispose of trash and cat litter. Would you prefer that we buy NEW plastic bags for those purposes?
Posted by: tippi | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and if those pathogens. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Have you ever had one of those plastic bags fly up and stick to your windshield?
Terror! Hate them. Don’t think there should be a TAX, just stop making them!!!!
I recycle them and use the paper for many other things. If supermarkets didn’t supply bags, people would have to bring their own. Make sense?
Posted by: Terri | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
It’s great to use cloth bags for shopping–why doesn’t anyone think to put a stop to disposable diapers? Why not back to cloth there?
Posted by: Sharlene | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Plastic bags are healthy, stay clean and should not be replaced by bags that become contaminated.
Posted by: lucien lapointe | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Tax the stores for the over excessive use us them. Not the people. I use reusable bags and love them.
Posted by: MJ | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I’ve been using canvas bags for years and it’s no big deal. Most stores are selling them now for about $1 each. But I can see how it might be unfair to those who are struggling with food stamps. Keep the tax, but let people on food stamps buy the bags for 10 cents each or something reasonable. The more people who use them, the better our environment will be.
Posted by: Betty | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
All For Taxing Plastic, Paper, Tin Cans, Pets, Airline Flights, Cars, etc.etc.
Whatever you want as long as I can bring it back for my money back.
Posted by: Irrelevant Jim | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
i don’t mind using the cloth bags, in fact have tried to. but the grocery store baggers don’t know how to bag/pack them…they are too heavy to pick up. they are nice big bags and hold alot, but by the time you fill them up, you can’t pick them up!
Posted by: sandra todd | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I say tax the plastic bags, and tax them big ! It is the only way people wi
Posted by: Karen | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
there should not be a tax, but people should be more responsible and take it upon themselves to use reusable bags. they hold more, less waste, just keep them in you car so you will always have them. they are cheap to buy. there is no reason not too.
Posted by: cathy | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I wouldn’t pay a single cent for plastic shopping bags. So I think taxing the bags is a great way to encourage people to use re-usable bags. I have re-usable bags in the back of my car but sometimes I forget to use them. I’m sure I won’t forget if I have to pay for shopping bags!
Posted by: Environmentalist | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I have a degree in Forestry. Paper for paper bags do not come from virgin forest. Fast growing hybrid trees are typically planted, grown, and harvested, and replanted. Paper bags are bio-degradable and support jobs in the paper industry.
We purchased our own cloth bags but paper is prefered over plastic when we are without.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Tax the stores for the over excessive use us them. Not the people. I use reusable bags and love them.
Posted by: MJ | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I find it offensive that a company or any government ASSUMES they have the AUTHORITY to make me pay a “tax” for the way I transport my goods I have purchased from where I bought them to my vehicle/home/destination.
There is no place for any more government regulation, ANYWHERE in our future. More regulation does nothing to prevent or avail our current problems as a nation.
Posted by: Taxed_To_The_Max | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I think it should be at least 30 cents a bag. The ditches are scattered with them, trees have them caught in the branches, our cities are littered everywhere with plastic bags. I also feel that there should be the same on every plastic and glass bottle, and even on aluminum cans. We have gotten to be to much of a throw away society. And yes I do use cloth reuseable bags and recycle all the bags, bottles and cans that I can. Fortunately in Minnesota we have some fairly good recycling programs in place.
Posted by: Lyle | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Such a simple thing to do for the environment. I have been using them for years. If taxing bags makes people more environmentally responsible the do it!
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I am typically ‘far right’ on the political spectrum, but I am very much an environmentalist. Reusable bags just make too much since. Why trash our land and waterways when there is such an easy alternative? As for the cost…I have 8 bags and I paid for a grand total of 2 (@ .50 each). Saying they cost too much is just a cop-out.
Posted by: jen | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Why are we always thinking of way to tax and take away from people? Why don’t grocery stores give you a rebate of $.30 if you use your cloth bag. I think using a cloth bag or another bag of my own is a great idea,but right now people are just taxed out.
Posted by: Nancy | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I use reusable bags when I do small orders. We are missing the boat when we worry about the bags we are carrying the goods in and not the goods themselves. When are we going to get away from plastic bottle packaging for everything we buy? STOP Plastics period!!!
Posted by: John Kauffman | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Tax … NO … A deposit YES … Put a 10 to 20 cent deposit on them … and allow people to turn them into a recycling center to get the money for them. That way People will clean up the mess. Just little the Bottle Deposit is supposed to do. If people don’t want to pick up the bags … then let others profit from doing the work people won’t
Posted by: RS | June 3, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
I so use the reuseable bags. Check out clerks need to accept the reuseable bags. Hellooooooooo. They move my bag; just use it!!!
Were the tax/service charge implemented, it could be worse for the check out clerks who do not acknowledge the bags a buyer is using.
Betsy
Posted by: Betsy Lee | June 3, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I put myself through college in the 80s by being a ‘bagger’ at a grocery store. You don’t see too many of those around anymore.
How on earth are they going to ‘tax’ the number of bags you use? Is the cashier going to hold up the line until you finish bagging your own groceries or ‘guesstimate’? Or would there be a second stop to pay for the bags? I bag faster and fewer than most because of the experience, but I don’t want to be slowed down by those who are trying to figure out how to get their stuff in less bags. I can also scan groceries faster than the self-serve machines and it drives me NUTS to use them. Heck, we used to get a weekly quiz on what the fruits & veggies were in the produce area – and the results were part of our review! We didn’t have the number stickers to rely on.
Posted by: Lucky | June 3, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Eliminate all bags: While we are on the edge of change with automobiles, why not build them with a grocery box/storage container capable of removal, and installation that supports the average grocery cart load. You can use it or just transfer groceries back into your cart and off load in the auto for quick removal when you get home.
Posted by: Tom | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I think a $$$$ incentive is the best way for our wasteful habits in the U. S. to be curbed. I’d also like to see fast food restaurant workers at the drive-in window be way more conservative in the amount of napkins they dole out (e.g. 6 napkins when a person orders one hamburger.
Posted by: sandi f. | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
All For Taxing Plastic, Paper, Tin Cans, Pets, Airline Flights, Cars, etc.etc.
Whatever you want as long as I can bring it back for my money back.
Posted by: Irrelevant Jim | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I would no mind purchasing the cloth bags but I also think the manufacture of water in plastic bottles should be discontinued, this would also help the enviornment.
Posted by: Ginny | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I say tax them and tax them big! It is the only way people are going to stop filling our landfills with them. I gave reuseable canvas bags to all of my friends for Christmas.
Posted by: Karen | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Although many stores now offer discounts for bringing in your own reusable bags, it hasn’t inspired enough people to actually participate. Taxing plastic bags will make everyone realize that they SHOULD be using reusable bags once it starts affecting their bank accounts. I agree with Ireland…tax 33 cents or even higher!! Just as long as the price is high enough to get people to start using reusable bags.
Posted by: Rebecca | June 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
As soon as we stop using plastic to package all the goods we buy. It is a farse to start at the cash register and not the shelf.
Posted by: Jack K | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Grocery stores are mostly to blame for all those bags out there. They bag up things that have their own handles, like milk and laundry detergent jugs. I not only use a number of re-useable bags, but also many bags I’ve found blowing around on merchants’ parking lots.
Posted by: Pepelaputr | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I have a degree in Forestry. Paper is not made from trees from virgin forests. Typically, fast growing hybrid trees are planted, grown, and harvested. Paper is bio degradable and supports paper/forest jobs.
We use cloth. But paper is better then plastic.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I have used reusable bags since the 1970′s. Europeans, men & women carry their own bags or baskets when they shop. Just keep bags in the trunk of your car or briefcase. We should charge a sizable amount (10 cents) per bag. People would get screaming mad and start carrying shopping bags. The proceeds could be used to clean up local environments.
Posted by: fmg | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
It’s about time we joined the rest of the world and brought our own bags into the markets…
Posted by: Jan C | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
They should charge for bags without a doubt, that is going to be the only thing that wakes people up to bring their own bags! It is so much pollution and so much waste! Plastic bags also clog the machines used for recycling other products. There is nothing good about plastic shopping bags! And don’t even get me started about paper ones! Charge people $1, $5, $10, $100!!!!! Whatever it takes! WAKE UP AMERICA!
Posted by: Karin | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
if we don’t get free plastic bage we’ll just buy plastic trash bags so what’s the difference
Posted by: betty woods | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
They should charge for bags without a doubt, that is going to be the only thing that wakes people up to bring their own bags! It is so much pollution and so much waste! Plastic bags also clog the machines used for recycling other products. There is nothing good about plastic shopping bags! And don’t even get me started about paper ones! Charge people $1, $5, $10, $100!!!!! Whatever it takes! WAKE UP AMERICA!
Posted by: Karin | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I have used reusable bags since the 1970′s. Europeans, men & women carry their own bags or baskets when they shop. Just keep bags in the trunk of your car or briefcase. We should charge a sizable amount (10 cents) per bag. People would get screaming mad and start carrying shopping bags. The proceeds could be used to clean up local environments.
Posted by: fmg | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
They should charge for bags without a doubt, that is going to be the only thing that wakes people up to bring their own bags! It is so much pollution and so much waste! Plastic bags also clog the machines used for recycling other products. There is nothing good about plastic shopping bags! And don’t even get me started about paper ones! Charge people $1, $5, $10, $100!!!!! Whatever it takes! WAKE UP AMERICA!
Posted by: Karin | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Even in rural Kansas, we get credit for having bringing bags!
I also LIKE the concept of charging for plastic. For it to be effective, it would have to pinch a bit!
No matter the cost of groceries, everyone can be responsible enough to bring their own bags!
Posted by: mj | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I’am all for recycling but if we are gonna tax grocery bags what are we gonna do to reduce the use of garbage bags I myself recycle my grocery bag into garbage bags.
Posted by: steve | June 3, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I’ve been using a cloth bag for many years but I still need a plastic bag to use for the cold and/or wet items before placing them in the cloth bag. The bags that I do use are given a second life as a garbage bag. If I did not use the store’s plastic, I would need to buy plastic trash bags for the garbage.
Posted by: Misty | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I have been using cloth bags for at least 25 years. It does help the environment, but also, cloth bags do not tear, carry more and you don’t have to figure out how to get rid of them. I can remember when everyone used to carry a crocheted bag around with them to carry their purchases. Everything old is new again.
Posted by: Suzanne | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
A tax on bags is fine with me, I’m tired of the plastic clogging up our world, using a cloth reusable bag isn’t that big of an inconvienience. America is getting lazy and we take our world for granted.
Posted by: Deb | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I already use the canvas bags, and my grocery gives a 10 cent credit for each bag. I prefer an incentive to a tax. The down side: they always overfill the bags and then I can’t carry them.
Posted by: TJ | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
just ban plastic bags. then, ban paper bags. it would take very few trips to the store by people who “forgot” to bring their own bags to make them remember to do so. this has nothing to do with the rich and the poor. anyone who says this is equating low income with stupidity. costco and sam’s club don’t provide bags, and their lots are always full of people loading huge amounts of stuff into vehicles. i don’t think that lack of free bags will hurt business. bags last a long time. some of mine are 30 years old!
Posted by: linda bishop | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
I think it would be great if they did away with plastic bags. I fish and see a lot in the water as well see fish dead trying to either eat the bags or trapped inside. They are a hazard to man and wildlife. I say do away with them.
Posted by: charles | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Has this been well studied? Does ABC support it? Cloth bags absorb fluid contaminations … from fruits and vegetables. HOW MUCH RISK WILL THIS MEAN TO NATIONAL HEALTH … WHEN DIRTY CONTAMINATED BAGS ARE USED OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR FRESH FOODS?
Posted by: Don | June 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
KB you ignorant idiot….poor and lack of education go hand in hand….
Posted by: Ziporah Paskman | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
As soon as we stop using plastic to package all the goods we buy. It is a farse to start at the cash register and not the shelf.
Posted by: Jack K | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
We personally use cloth bags but a tax on plastic or paper bags is nothing less than ludicrous. If local governments and others wish to raise money then let them fine the waste disposal services for not recycling materials that pass through their plants every day. People in America can only bleed so much money and it’s time governments everywhere figured that out.
Posted by: Mikee | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I think assessing a tax for using something other than re-useable bags would definitely be a good thing. Right now, I use the plastic bags and the paper bags and I keep them (don’t throw them in the trash), but I always forget to take them to the grocery store with with. Assessing a tax would fix that! The only thing I think the stores should do is to give people who have saved those plastic bags a credit toward purchasing the re-useable bags if they turn the plastic bags in.
Posted by: Pamela | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
I didn’t hear any mention that these plastic bags are RECYCLABLE. That being the case, I like getting plastic bags because I use them as small trash can liners and I recycle the excess bags. This saves me from spending money for trash bags. The paper bags I get, I use to hold my recyclable newsprint, then recycle the whole bag when it is full. I’m not seeing the waste as long as you recycle.
Posted by: debby | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Paper or plastic? Once again ABC News thinks the rest of actually care about “San Francisco values” and place the “environment” above people. So what if thousands of trees are cut to make paper bags? How many jobs does the paper industry provide to men in the woods, truckers, plant workers and store employees? Compared to billions of trees that are allowed to burn each year, (whatta a carbon output!)thanks to environmental regulations prohibiting logging already – the bag ‘issue’ is a waste of our time.
Posted by: Sharperpen | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Did you ever have a pet choke on a plastic bag? Then you will will switch in a heart beat. I lost too many pets to have a plastic bag in my house again.
Posted by: Hope to Save The Earth | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
As said before, Europe has been doing this for years. We need to step up to the plate. Many stores do give a credit for using my own bag. Now I’m trying to get in the habit of using my own bags in all other stores, not just grocery stores.
Posted by: Sharn | June 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Another tax!? Why not have shoppers bring their bags back and have the store recycle them. A bag for a bag.Many people just throw their bags away which go to a landfill, paid for them or not. If you had to return one to get one and the store recycled wouldn’t that be better. By the way where would the tax money go if you had to buy one? Everyone is just trying to find a way for more revenue which hurts the next guy—all because no one wants a depression, where we might learn not to let it happen again. Why do we(taxpayers) have to learn from our mistakes but Wallstreet, large companies, stockholders and our government, and we the voters don’t have to?
Posted by: richard | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Great idea. Tax everything–including wacko ideas like this. No wonder it started in San Francisco. Here in Chicago, we need revenue so bad, the thieves here will tax toilet paper. A better idea would be to cut out the large private jet for Nancy Pelosi–tell her to try video conferencing.
Posted by: norman | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Eliminate all bags: While we are on the edge of change with automobiles, why not build them with a grocery box/storage container capable of removal, and installation that supports the average grocery cart load. You can use it or just transfer groceries back into your cart and off load in the auto for quick removal when you get home.
Posted by: Tom | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Which is more harmful :
a loaded gun …. in the dump
or
a plastic bag …. in the dump
How many guns are there ?
Posted by: lucien lapointe | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
We are a part of an extremely wasteful generation, and our lands, oceans, waterways and air all suffer greatly. Greatly. People are angry about having to pay for bags. Well we will all eventually pay an extremely high price for our excessive use of plastic and non-renuable resourses. If it takes taxation to get people to make the right choices (reducing waste/recycling), than sobeit. It’s sad that many people won’t make the right choices without being forced into it. I personally find that using reusable bags is not only very convenient, but MORE convenient than either plastic or paper bags, in that my reusable bags don’t break and they hold more than other bags. I am honored to do whatever I can to help save this planet for future generations
Posted by: Sue | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
When I was a child in Philadelphia,PA we had trash and garbage. Trash was collected in front of the house and it was clean. Garbage was wet and it was collected from the back of the house. The garbage was emptied into a truck and taken to the pig farms in NJ. I am willing to purchace cloth bags for my groceries but what about trash cans and garbage?
Posted by: Jeanne Lutz | June 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
We are killing the Earth due to our laziness. It is time to clean up our act bigtime and plastic bags are just the start.
Posted by: Scott | June 3, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I wholeheartedly agree that we should pay something for each plastic or paper bag we take out of the grocery stores. How difficult can it be to get used to always bring a bag INTO the store to put the groceries into? They have done it in European countries for years and nobody complains. Some stores here already pay me for each bag I bring in. If I only buy one item, I don’t take a bag but carry it out to my car in my hands. Thanks for letting me have my say. I think this is a very important issue.
Margit Kohl
Posted by: Margit Kohl | June 3, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
It’s a shame that we have to tax in order to instill responsibility. But if that’s what it takes to decrease waste then let’s do it to it. Then next, plastic bottles and junk mail….
Posted by: Jenny Dean | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
It is not about the government taking your rights or telling you what to do it is about making less of an impact on the environment! Using cloth bags is easy, and thy dont break before you get home with them. On a recent trip to Ireland they charged 33 cents each and we followed the natives and used a cloth bag. It was simple, try it before you complain.
Posted by: N Haley | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Any tax at all would be enough to convince most, but that’s the sacrifice we have to make in these ecologically drastic times.
Posted by: Carolyn | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Typically fast growing hybrid trees are planted, grown, and harvested for paper bags. Virgin forests are not cut down for paper. paper is biodegradeable and supporst jobs in the paper and forest industries.
We use cloth but paper is better then plastic.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I just moved back to the U.S. after living in another country. We were also charged for plastic bags so learned to bring our own. One thing we need to be aware of is keeping our bags clean. Spilled milk, meat juices all make for unsanitary conditions in our “green bags”. Think of the store bagger that has to handle those “dirty” bags plus they are slid across the area where other groceries pass.
Posted by: C.White | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
I use the store cloth bags or bring my own for shopping. The one thing that really bothers me is that the consumer isn’t the one who started the usage of the plastic bags. The stores started to use these years ago. I am sure that many consumers would gladly give them up. Perhaps the stores should give consumers the opportunity to purchase their cloth bags at a discount rate for a week or something like that.
Posted by: pam | June 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
We are killing the Earth due to our laziness. We need to stop a whole lot more than just disposable bags.
Posted by: Scott | June 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
America seems to have no shortage of really BAD IDEAS lately. I would not pay for that at all. Nada. Don’t even ask me. I already recycle every single plastic and paper bag I get by using them as trash bags. That’s what my local municipality demands — organize your trash in a bag or they won’t take it. So now I am supposed to buy bigger plastic bags for the trash? Why? Can’t someone launch a business making something useful out of recycled plastic or paper bags? Can’t the be manufactured in such a way that they break down fast in landfills? Why is the only solution to charge people for them or force us to carry our meat in “sanitary” canvas bags? I vote NO on this Bad Idea.
Posted by: BossLady | June 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
It makes sense to not waste. I can only speak for my home town, Gainesville, FL,we are fortunate to have recycle pick up with our garbage. Being the home of the gators, we have blue bins for glass and plastic and orange bins for paper and corigated cardboard (and our stores have bins to recollect plastic bags). I would say (ball-park) about 20% of us are using “reusable” bags. I am so used to being able to recycle that when we travel out of town I’m surprized it’s not an option- unless you want to use gas to travel to a recycling facility. So taxing, maybe a small tax is a good place to start, but hurting someone in the pocket book at this time, in the grand scheme of things- not so much. There are other more pressing places to focus on first. Thanks…
Posted by: charise | June 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Typically fast growing hybrid trees are planted, grown, and harvested for paper bags. Virgin forests are not cut down for paper. paper is biodegradeable and supporst jobs in the paper and forest industries.
We use cloth but paper is better then plastic.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Great idea. Tax everything–including wacko ideas like this. No wonder it started in San Francisco. Here in Chicago, we need revenue so bad, the thieves here will tax toilet paper. A better idea would be to cut out the large private jet for Nancy Pelosi–tell her to try video conferencing.
Posted by: norman | June 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Any tax at all would be enough to convince most, but that’s the sacrifice we have to make in these ecologically drastic times.
Posted by: Carolyn | June 3, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I know in Germany you pay about the same as in Ireland, but these are sturdy plastic bags, unlike the thin ones we usually get here and which I find often have holes in them (probably why they double bag). I’m all for charging extra and it being an incentive for us to use cloth (or reuse any bag) instead.
Now what about more manufacturers using plastic packaging that CAN be recycled?
Posted by: Robin | June 3, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The store I go to recycles the plastic bags I use and return. How come that isn’t discussed?
Posted by: Vince | June 3, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
You have to be kidding me a tax for grocery bags. It should be called a tax for American workers or jobs. Most of the eco friendly bags are made over seas. As for the paper bags they are made from a renuable source. Yes people trees can be planted and grown back. Unlike the plastic bags that are oil based. But all in all the tax could cost Americans there jobs.
Posted by: Yogi | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I think its a great idea. People need to recycle everything! Use cloth bags or reuse the plastic bags you already have!!
Posted by: mary | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I am not for any kind of tax. This is the most ridiculus thing I have ever heard of. Pretty soon everything will be taxed. Oh, that’s right it already. I say no way. Just another way to extort money.
Posted by: Not Happy | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these and the pathogens get on food that won’t be cooked such as vegtables. I don’t have a problem using paper bags, infact I prefer paper bags, but you can’t find them anymore.
Posted by: Laura | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Typically fast growing hybrid trees are planted, grown, and harvested for paper bags. Virgin forests are not cut down for paper. paper is biodegradeable and supporst jobs in the paper and forest industries.
We use cloth but paper is better then plastic.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I often use reusable bags, but honestly – if they are going to charge for the use of paper and plastic bags, stores should have to be more responsible for making sure that their employees put more then one item in a bag. If stores took more action in that, it would cut the waste by huge numbers.
Posted by: Brandi | June 3, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I’ve been using reusable bags for a while now and they really aren’t that incovenient to use. I keep mine in the car so when I go to the store I already have them right there. Then after unpacking the bags, I take them right back to the car for the next time. I don’t think a tax is right, either. I think they should just stop making plastic bags totally and less paper ones. I agree with the person that said that more of the grocery packaging should be in recyclable materials in the first place. Fast food restaurants are another place, they used to use wax covered paper boxes, etc. and those seemed to work just fine.
Posted by: MaryL | June 3, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
We understand cash. To be taxed on “conveniences” that are costly to the environment, not to mention wasteful,is a good thing. Aldi (grocery plus) even charges for bags and it is a reminder that I need to shop with cloth bags in my car and remember to USE them. A good and simple thing to do and all together it makes a difference! ReUSE–preach it!
Posted by: Joyce | June 3, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I think taxing bags is a great idea – should have been done years ago! I’ve been using my own bags for over three years – back when it was not in vogue. Reusable bags are affordable – my grocery store has them 5 for $4. AND I get a credit for bringing my own bags. Go and tax away so people are not using 20 bags for 25 items.
For the folks who do not want to see another tax – do you want the next generation to be able to survive with all the waste that is produced today? This is obviously not incentive enough but money talks.
Posted by: Recycler101 | June 3, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I wonder how many people are carrying home plastic garbage bags in their reusable grocery bags? And how funny is that?
I get my groceries in paper bags (which should be made from recycled paper, not trees)and use them for garbage and to sort my recyclables. My city requires office paper, magazines and newspapers to be sorted and bagged for recycling.
When I build up a stock of paper bags I start using my re-usable bags for groceries – all of which I got free, mostly as giveaways at the State Fair.
I rarely get plastic grocery bags but when I do I add them to my probably endless supply and use them for picking up after my dogs. I’m pretty sure I still have 15 year old bags from when the daily newspaper was always bagged for delivery (Washington Post.)
And I’m already paying a tax because most of the stores I shop at give a discount for bringing your own bag.
Posted by: Jane | June 3, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
We have been using plastic or paper grocery bags we get with our groceries in our kitchen garbage can afterwards. Now that I am switching over to reusable bags I will need to buy the kitchen trash bags. These are, of course, plastic. So, are we better off?
Posted by: Annie | June 3, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Aaarg…was is public demand that implemented the use of plastic grocery bags??? Monumental, forced changes almost invariably start with someone in a government office who has way too much time on their hands. Now, so many years later, it’s the public that is blamed for using what was foisted upon us. And, as usual, in the name of solving a problem that it created, it’s the government that wants to add a tax to again enforce a change on the hapless people.
Posted by: 2CentsWorth | June 3, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Great idea. Tax everything–including wacko ideas like this. No wonder it started in San Francisco. Here in Chicago, we need revenue so bad, the thieves here will tax toilet paper. A better idea would be to cut out the large private jet for Nancy Pelosi–tell her to try video conferencing.
Posted by: norman | June 3, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
yes yes yes
Posted by: Razor | June 3, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Taxing would help people take seriously the habit of carrying bags for shopping.
ReUSe is a lesson we need to keep working at for the sake of reducing trash and helping the environment.
Posted by: Joyce | June 3, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I think its a great idea! people waste way too much plastic. its stays in landfills FOREVER. use cloth bags or reuse the plastic bags everyone already has in a cabinet!!
Posted by: mary | June 3, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Please get your facts correct. Are you sure about the # of trees being cut for paperbags? Could it possibly be that those bags are being made from recycled paper? Also some bags are made from tree farms when a tree is cut down, then another one is planted to take its place…or are you more concerned with selling huge amounts of lumber to Asia?
As for the plastic bags, I use those in my little wastebaskets….I could buy Glad or the no name store brands & use those in my wastebaskets. I also use the plastic ones when I walk my dog to pick up his bowel movement vs leaving it on someone’s lawn or sidewalk. What kind of cost break do I get if I bring a cloth bag? Are you going to make sure we get a discount at the register? I doubt it. We are over taxed now as it is….when is enough, enough?
Posted by: michele rossini | June 3, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Typically fast growing hybrid trees are planted, grown, and harvested for paper bags. Virgin forests are not cut down for paper. paper is biodegradeable and supporst jobs in the paper and forest industries.
We use cloth but paper is better then plastic.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
This bag tax is giving environmentalism a bad name. It may have its heart in the right place, but the approach is way off. The basic psychology of this situation is that it is counterproductive—it turns the green movement into something that people see as a burden. It gives the average person some extra rule to loathe. Environmentalism needs to be seen for what it is—the only logical, beneficial, and responsible methodology for survival. Reusing resources like cloth bags is basic common sense, and we should positively reward those who do so. We will get nowhere through punishment. Have we learned nothing as a society?
Posted by: Winfield | June 3, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
How about no taxes…just STOP producing the bags! Shoppers would learn quickly to bring their own cloth bags if no other bags were available. This is such a simple solution.
However, for those people who have no ecological conscience, a .50 @ bag tax would get their attention and stop the wasteful convenience.
Posted by: Gwen Bell | June 3, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I’ve started using my own cloth bags, it’s funny to see a bagger trying to figure out how to use it! I think it’s a good idea to encourage consumers to use their own bags to help save the environment and if it takes a tax, so be it. But you know, it’s not our fault we have gotten out of control, whose idea was it to start using plastic in the first place?
Posted by: LTS | June 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Whenever I have plastic grocery bags I reuse them for my daily trash and used kitty litter, so I never have a surplus. Then I hardly ever have to buy large or small plastic trash bags. Is there a better alternative for bagging trash?
Posted by: Lorraine | June 3, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
i feel its a great idea but there should be a deposit not a tax. should put a deposit on all plastic bottles from water, milk, laundry products and last be not the least beer, wine etc… think about all the trash that would not find its way too the oceans and land fills.
Posted by: cindy | June 3, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Its not bad enough that I have to pay to dispose of my trash; now they want me to pay for the bags to put my trahs in. When will it stop. I haven’t worked in two years and I can’t afford regular trash bags. I guess I’ll just start throwing my trash over the hill…
Posted by: Robin | June 3, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I think the government should allow everyone or household to receive a voucher for reusable bags like they have for digital tv. After a certain date then charge .50 tax on paper or plastic bags. And so that jobs are not lost help change over the factories to make reuasble bags vs paper or plastic.
Posted by: Jeff Standley | June 3, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
I use reusable bags a lot of the time. I also re-use my plastic bags from the grocery store to pick up my dogs poo in the neighborhood and yard. If I have to start buying bags jusut to pick up poo that would be annoying.
Posted by: Nicole | June 3, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Plastic should be banned. If Rawanda has enough sense to do it, you would think we could get on board.
I think it might take a bigger tax, say $1.00, for some people to change their habits voluntarily. Some people will never believe there’s a problem, much less recognize how bad the problem really is. Plastic bags should be banned. After seeing the destruction to this planet that plastic bags have caused, I’m surprised this is even being discussed. What’s wrong with us?
Posted by: bobbi | June 3, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Has all the politicians in every state gone out of there minds in Washington DC? Who was the insane person that came up with a bag tax?
I Wish the politicians would put there taxes where the sun dont shine!
Every little thing you can put a tax on is being done in the United States are we going to stand for there BS any longer we are being tax to death!
How on earth can we afford to pay for our homes or cars if we have to pay all these tax?
What good was it for President Obama to give all us a tiny tax break when you going to take it away on another tax?
We didn’t screw up this country!
The Federal Government did!
what else would the government makes us pay more tax on next? A bag tax now you got to be kidding!If I wasn’t so mad about taxes,I would laugh in your face!The Federal Government pulling at straws now because of all the bailout money spend nothing to back it up!Right It will fall in the taxpayers lap it never fails to do so!
Posted by: BrendettNC | June 3, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I think the grocery stores like this idea because it will improve their bottom lines.
It is also another case of eco-snobs trying to impose another meaningless practice so they can feel good about themselves.
Posted by: Ray | June 3, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I think this is just another excuse for the government to tax. I use my plastic bags for my garbage. What about all those plastic bags people buy to put their garbage in? Why not tax all the plastic milk,soda,cat litter,bread,lettuce bags/containers too?
Posted by: Faye | June 3, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
I think that it is a good idea for bag tax I also think that the Americans should fallow the Europeans with charging for a cart at the grocerie store. In Germany You are charged 1 euro coin to use the cart and when you are done you must bring your cart back to the bin that you got it from if you want your Euro coin back…This will help eliminate the carts from all store being left everywhere. this will also save money in the long run
Posted by: Dennis | June 3, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
I use reusable bags, i think it is a great idea to tax for use of paper or plastic bags. Reusable bags are $1. If we don’t do something like tax people no one will ever change.
Posted by: Jayme | June 3, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
should be a deposit not a tax there should be a deposit on all plastic, glass, cans, anything that can be recycled should have a deposit, in these hard times it should not cost to recycle, but refunded.
Posted by: cindy | June 3, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I think this is just another excuse for the government to tax. I use my plastic bags for my garbage. What about all those plastic bags people buy to put their garbage in? Why not tax all the plastic milk,soda,cat litter,bread,lettuce bags/containers too?
Posted by: Faye | June 3, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I bought those $1.00 store “cloth” bags, which ripped in no time at all. Groceries have skyrocketed. For those of us on fixed incomes the added nickle, or God forbid as someone suggested, 50 cents, would be a hardship. Better yet, don’t provide bags at all. Provide boxes as they at Sam’s Club. Why pay for a bag when they throw out perfectly good boxes. I won’t pay for plastics or paper bags. I’ll take my own boxes.
Posted by: Alice | June 3, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
On the report tonight was show virgin timber being cut to make pulp to produce paper bags. Trees used in the making of pulp for paper bags and other paper products are generaly grown on industry and private tree farms. The tree farm is harvested like other crops and re-planted to be harvested again.
It is a bio-degradable and replenished resource.
Posted by: Tim Hale | June 3, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
No tax on bags, NO BAGS period, paper or plastic, at grocery and convenience stores.
What makes many of the posters think they have a RIGHT to a free bag when they buy something?
All other wasteful packaging is a separate issue and should be dealt with separately. Standard excuse — fix something else first.
Posted by: John | June 3, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
I live in Southeast Wisconsin and here you are charged 10 cents per bag although most people do not see it because if you use your own bags you get the 10 cents off for each bag you have. Do people not think that they are paying for the bags anyway? I am tired of hearing the excuse “I’m poor and can’t afford it.” Cloth bags sold at the stores start at 50 cents. Laundry basket works as a bag as well. I say $1 tax per bag.
Posted by: Are you kidding?? | June 3, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Yes, tax to the max! And provide enough incentives that people with turn in the already choking amount of plastic out there destroying the environment and wildlife. Grociers can afford to give out cloth bags as customer appreciation gifts, to do their share.
Posted by: Shirley R | June 3, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Charging for bags is the great idea, go SF for being a leader. This is how we can get conservation started in the smallest ways and the ordinary person can participate in. I use reuseable bags already and they cost as little as a 1.00 in some stores. For those of you that thinks this is a bad idea, shame on you, we need to save this planet. We need to do it on our own or we pay for it.
Posted by: Cohee | June 3, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I use my own canvas bags. But my husband who is in charge of the garbage asks “How do we dispose of our garbage without plastic bags? “
Posted by: Eve Winer | June 3, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
I use cloth bags but what am I supposed to use for disposing of kitty waste; and what should dog walkers, who are required to scoop, use??? all stores, including department stores, use plastic bags…I refuse bags when I have forgotten my cloth bags, which often end up in my husband’s car; to carry it further, do away with plastic diapers, etc. etc. 5 cents each sounds
right…
Posted by: Vicki Reed | June 3, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
One poster commented that Europeans have been doing this for years. I lived in three countries in Europe for seven years. They bought food every day because of their small refrigerators. The little string bags were sufficient to hold a day’s groceries. I doubt many Americans would agree to shop every day for the day’s meal.
Posted by: Alice | June 3, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
I use cloth bags when I haven’t fogotten them at home, or refuse a plastic bag…but what am I supposed to use when scooping kitty litter…and what about dog walkers who are required to pick up waste???
5 cents per bag sounds right…but let’s do away with ALL bags…department stores, etc., not to mention plastic diapers.
Posted by: Vicki Reed | June 3, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
I don’t even know why we use bags? we put our groceries in the cart,take them out at the cashier,pay for them.instead of putting in a bag why not put them back in the cart and out to the car where people could have a box in the trunk and put the grocieres in that and drive home.no bags! mark snyder cambridge springs pennsylvania,videographer
Posted by: Mark J Snyder | June 3, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
This is probably the most ridiculous idea ever. Have we become so panicky and ignorant that we are willing to do anything in the name of “being green”. If environmentalists think this is such a good idea, they can pay my share of the bag tax, because I’m not.
I live in DC and have actually carried groceries out in my arms to avoid the tax. Btw, according to NRDC most re-usable bags purchased are never used and the energy and resources needed to make just 1 re-usable bag is the equivalent of making 1000 plastic bags.
Posted by: Steve | June 3, 2009, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
I take my plastic bags back to Giant & they recycle them into park benches. I think that is a good deal. Who decides what the tax on bags is spent on?
Posted by: wayne | June 3, 2009, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
I shake my head every time I hear this debate because it’s so STUPID. Just last year, I was amazed by the number of MORONS on line at a NYC Whole Foods at 5am, in the pouring rain, all because they started selling a canvas shopping bag. Clearly, it was more about a fad and being seen than saving the Earth. And it takes minimal thinking to see why…
Who said that plastic shopping bags need to be thrown out immediately? We reuse every one of them to hold the trash. You can simply use a small trash can (which can be emptied daily) or a special frame made specifically to hold grocery bags (see link below). What amazes me are people who complain about grocery bags yet don’t give a second thought to buying plastic trash bags. Not only is that a waste of money but trash bags are also worst on the environment because their extra thickness requires added plastic.
And frankly, there is no good alternative to plastic trash bags. Since kitchen trash is often wet, not using a bag is not an option. Think about the environmental impact of using detergents to clean the unlined trash bin, not to mention the wasted time and money. And paper bags won’t hold in moisture. So clearly, plastic bags are necessary for the garbage.
Which is better for your wallet and the environment: Re-using plastic grocery bags or buying new trash bags? It’s a no brainer and something my barely-educated immigrant parents have been doing for decades.
Toting around a dirty reusable canvas bag simply means you need to buy trash bags. And dirty food since canvas absorbs odors and germs.
So again, I don’t understand the debate at all, and the maligning of plastic grocery bags. I wish lawmakers would just think before proposing these stupid taxes to cover their governmental waste.
Here’s a rather nice frame to use grocery bags. I’ve seen others for as little as $5.99
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=14071520
Posted by: Sam | June 3, 2009, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
Instead of charging people for bags they store should pay people who bring their own bag. The money is with the store not with the poor people who are already pinched tight.
Posted by: Tom | June 3, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
I like the cloth bags. Of course, like anything, there are some that are much better quality than others.
I know of one of the BIG chains in the Denver area that gives a credit for bringing in your own bag….I think that should be offered by more stores.
shirley
http://www.proorganizer.com
Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
I was of the belief that we were re-planting more trees than we are using. If so, what is the concern? I personally use paper bags for our garbage as I have been led to believe they are bio-degradable. Should we not encourage their use, verses plastic, in these circumstances?
Limiting the use of plastic bags has a number of positive aspects.
Posted by: Mike | June 3, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
I would not enjoy another tax at the store. I would use my reusable bags when shopping as opposed to paying an additonal tax.
Posted by: Linda Gordon | June 3, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
In 1985 my family lived in Switzerland for half a year. We had traded houses (and cars) with a Swiss family we knew. Upon arriving there, one of the first things I was told was to take my own bags to the grocery store – otherwise I would be charged for any bags I got at the store. I forgot only once.
Now I take my own cloth bags to the grocery store here.
I think the proposed bag ‘tax’ is a good idea.
Posted by: Linda | June 3, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I already use reuseable bags, but would use them more often as opposed to an additional tax.
Posted by: Linda Gordon | June 3, 2009, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
like many of the other posters, i think this is a great idea, but only if the monies collected go directly to environmental causes. perhaps there could be a way to underwrite the cost of cloth bags for those who are genuinely unable to afford their purchase. (not those folks who simply resent having to be responsible stewards of our earth.)
Posted by: justsane | June 3, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I think it’s sad but a great idea, way to go SF and DC for being leaders in this conservation approach. Sad because many americans should be doing these little things without the business or gov’t getting involved. As americans we need to be leaders in this effort to save the planet. I use my reuseable bags and they cost only a 1.00 in some stores. This isn’t a hard thing for us to do. I feel bad for those who think it’s an attack on them personally.
Posted by: Donna | June 3, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
I have also been using clothbags and nets for a long time. But then, I am from Europe where this practice has always been in use. Plastic bag users get charged per bag. I think we all should do our part to reduce waste. it’s just too much with the world population the size it’s getting.
I use some plastic bags for cat litter etc. And I like the occasional paperbag for my newspapers. It’s such a habit to empty the bags, hang them on the door and take them back out in the car next time I drive. A tax on plastic bags would be great, and yes, it should be used for the environment. The grocery store I go to gives a couple of cents credit for each bag I bring. I think a tax would work better to get shoppers to participate in less wasteful behaviour.
Posted by: Ingrid | June 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Here’s a much better idea: Stores (or food chains) voluntarily discount a nickle for each cloth bag you use. No government interference, no mandates on the businessman. I’d give priority to that store, not so much for the nickle or two, but that it’s a business that’s helping with a problem without being given a mandate.
Posted by: Phil Richter | June 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
This is a great idea. It raises revenue for environmental causes and reduces the landfill materials. Europe has been doing it for a long time. The effort is minimal. And “this is unfair for the poor”? I just don’t get it. Cloth bags are often given for free or can be purchased for as little at 25 cents at a church rummage sale. How is this unfair to the poor?
Posted by: Elliott | June 3, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Plastic bags should be taxed at least at 50 cents a bag!
Gad people buy a reusable, or merchants should be required to hand them out.
I live in a windy climate in eastern Colorado and in winter especially they are seen blowing in the trees, along the fences, and along every highway all year long. If people were not so careless they would not have to be taxed.
The fact notwithstanding they can choke eagles, hawks, and other tree nesting animals who use them to biuld nests by mistake.
Why is it in Canada they make a bag just as firm made of cornstarch and wood chips that desolves in the rain, and the Safeway stores in the US cannot do it?
Save the oil, save the environment from unsightly litter.
BAN ALL PLASTIC BAGS NOW !!
Posted by: raccoon | June 3, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Gerriann -
Whole Foods takes 15¢ off your bill for each reusable bag you bring in.
Posted by: mike/ | June 3, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
I already use reusable bags because we need to do as much as we can to thwart the effects from climate change. This is something simple you can do, and we need to be much more aggressive about facing and dealing with this issue than most people are. Many people feel like it will not have much of an effect on them in their lifetime, and aren’t doing much to change what they do. We need to be a lot less disposable- minded than we are, and not using plastic bags is a little step that will hopefully lead to more people doing more things to reduce our effect on our environment. Ignoring it is what got us in this position in the first place. It is unwise to continue to ignore it.
Posted by: Rose Neuben | June 3, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
We have been using canvas bags for almost a year except the the few plastic bags in the store for produce.
We got them from CHEAPTOTES.COM for 0.99 each plus s&h. Plastic bags not only polute the environment but they’re made from petroleum, the cost of which is rising again.
Posted by: BelmontEd | June 3, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
What about people like me who recycle plastic bags? I don’t want to be taxed!!!
Posted by: Tee | June 3, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
We have been using cloth bags for almost a year, except for the few plastic bags used for produce and we always return them to the store. You can get them from “cheaptotes.com”. They’re a bit of a pain because there’s no rack to hold them. Some one will come up with a solution to that problem soon.
Posted by: BelmontEd | June 3, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Omigawd, I agree 100% with Sam at 7:50pm! I saw the same news report about those idiots in NYC. It was REALLY pouring rain yet the line went around the block at 5am! All for a stupid canvas bag that wasn’t even free.
The report also said that several people got trampled when the bag went on sale in Hong Kong. I guess stupidity is international!
Seriously, it’s all about vanity and being seen with that stupid logo (something like ‘I am not a plastic bag’). Recyclable canvas and plastic shopping bags have been around for decades, i.e. Lilian Vernon catalogs. Where were all those idiots then? Was the Earth less important because canvas bags weren’t chic yet? Geez!
Posted by: Brianna | June 3, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
i am amazed at the number of posters who are just repeatedly posting the same thing over and over again…
“I am against the use of reuseable shopping bags simply because they have been shown to harbor foodborne pathogens. People don’t wash these…” ~laura~
hey laura; the bags being reused are YOURS. the person responsible for washing them is YOU. if you are concerned about germs in your bags, wash them!
Posted by: justsane | June 3, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I walk or take public transportation everywhere – so I already carry on my person (at all times when out) a backpack full of everything a driver would keep/leave in their car. I stopped shopping at WholeFoods because I can’t carry 4-5 paper sacks of groceries home walking/riding any easier than I could carry around reusables with me at all times just to have them when I stop to shop on the way home. I also reuse my plastic grocery bags in place of the trash bags most others purchase to then throw their trash away in. I haven’t purchased a box of plastic trash bags in at least a decade – but no one’s talking about outlawing those. This debate has felt like a feel good issue from the beginning…those burning up fossil fuel to and from the grocery stores can feel a little better for not loading their vehicles up w/plastic or paper grocery bags….but it leaves all those either reliant on or choosing to use public transport and their own legs and feet up a creek. I suppose I could simply cut back my grocery/shopping consumption to cover the tax, or to not have to cart around as many reusables as I’d need. Say, King Soopers offers back a small credit for every reusable used in place of a paper or plastic store bag – inspiring those w/vehicles to do so since it saves them money while still not alienating those using public transport or walking and hoping to buy more than 10 items at a time…..perhaps not as radical or back pat worthy, but it seems to work well – and they’ve kept me and others as customers…..if I only buy a few items I take the credit and pack the items in my backpack – if more items, I take the plastic bags and then use them for trash bags.
Posted by: Denverite | June 3, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
A minimum of 35-40 cents per bag is required to pay for the cleanup of already used bags–not including the new bags that are going out. They are NOT groceries, as another respondent commented. They are just another convenience we are and will be paying for in taxes as time goes. The same (at a lower cost) applies to paper bags
Posted by: John Hopkins | June 3, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Do you think the grocery store will quit selling Glad, Hefty or Zip Lock plastic garbage bags? Of course not… so if we don’t get them for free we will buy them. This is just another way for the government to get more money to mis-manage and increase control on us! If you think they are going to use a bag tax for environmental causes you probably also believed that loto funds would increase education funding… I would pay ZERO. Fools, you follow like sheep!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Posted by: RLWARD | June 3, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
I walk or take public transportation everywhere – so I already carry on my person (at all times when out) a backpack full of everything a driver would keep/leave in their car. I stopped shopping at WholeFoods because I can’t carry 4-5 paper sacks of groceries home walking/riding any easier than I could carry around reusables with me at all times just to have them when I stop to shop on the way home. I also reuse my plastic grocery bags in place of the trash bags most others purchase to then throw their trash away in. I haven’t purchased a box of plastic trash bags in at least a decade – but no one’s talking about outlawing those. This debate has felt like a feel good issue from the beginning…those burning up fossil fuel to and from the grocery stores can feel a little better for not loading their vehicles up w/plastic or paper grocery bags….but it leaves all those either reliant on or choosing to use public transport and their own legs and feet up a creek. I suppose I could simply cut back my grocery/shopping consumption to cover the tax, or to not have to cart around as many reusables as I’d need. Say, King Soopers offers back a small credit for every reusable used in place of a paper or plastic store bag – inspiring those w/vehicles to do so since it saves them money while still not alienating those using public transport or walking and hoping to buy more than 10 items at a time…..perhaps not as radical or back pat worthy, but it seems to work well – and they’ve kept me and others as customers…..if I only buy a few items I take the credit and pack the items in my backpack – if more items, I take the plastic bags and then use them for trash bags.
Posted by: 1denverite | June 3, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
How will poultry be packaged? It’s packed in plastic containers and leaks at tmes. Putting packaged poultry in
canvas bags is not sanitary at best and can lead to cross-contamination when packaged with tomatoes, apples,peppers, etc. in same bag.If people are serious about pollution why not start with the 3 most common items at landfills: news
papers,food containers and disposable diapers (each requiring 8-oz. of oil in its manufacture)?
Posted by: mandy | June 3, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
One problem with no plastic bags. All our garbage and items to be recycled are required to be in plastic bags.
Therefore, I use these plastic bags for such purposes.
Hence, no bags from the store means they must be bought from the store. So what has been gained? It just means I must pay for the plastic bags for garbage & items to be recycled!
Posted by: Bob Scheidemantle | June 3, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
No More Taxes…Read my plastic bags
Posted by: MicheleAnn99 | June 3, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
If the gov’t really wanted everyone to stop using plastic bags, they would just ban them like San Francisco did. But by taxing the bags, they get new tax revenue, which they will probably use to pay for a new program. If everyone stops using the bags, the tax revenue dries up, and the gov’t is forced to (a) cut the program that the revenue was paying for, or (b) find another way to pay for their programs, which probably means another tax. So, the real motivation behind a tax like this is (1) get more tax revenue, and (2) please the environmental lobby. Money and power – plain and simple.
Posted by: Stephen | June 3, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
A few months ago I started using reusable bags . I even bought a large purse that can hold several of the bags. I like the ones that snap shut …they are more compact.
I am still surprised how many people are still bagging in plastic.
Yes Yes Yes…a tax ….! Great idea. …I think that will be just the encouragement need by shopperes.
Posted by: Lynn | June 3, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
I support a tax on bags. The world needs to be more eco-conscious. Even better though, are stores that give a bag credit. At local Harmons grocery store in Utah, consumers can buy the store’s reusuable bags and receive a $.05 credit/bag on their grocery bill. What a great incentive to be “green!”
Posted by: Cyndi Lloyd | June 3, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
I cant believe they are going to tax me for bags. I guess if all I used was one bag like you showed, that would be fine, but most of America have a family of four. I usually use 10 bags or more and most of them are doupled because the bags are so thin. I agree we show do something but please don’t charge me more money, my groceries are quite enough.
Posted by: marion | June 3, 2009, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Simple answer:
We must be responsible citizens of our global environment. Is it too much for us to carry our own reusable bags to the store. Large shopping clubs don’t give bags, just boxes if you choose to use them. Why in the world would global citizens continue to destroy our planet for conveniences. Use your heart and save mother nature before she kicks our asses. Be responsible for everything you do, it’s the only way to save ourselves and our only planet which we call home.
Posted by: Lynne | June 3, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
YES! I think the tax is an excellent idea!
Posted by: Priscilla | June 3, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Yes, a tax would work. I travelled from Phoenix to Yuma Arizona in January and saw an incredible amount of plastic bags in the desert. My mother, a resident of Yuma, said yes…, that is the state flower of Arizona.
Posted by: jdhkgb | June 3, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Simple answer:
We must be responsible citizens of our global environment. Is it too much for us to carry our own reusable bags to the store. Large shopping clubs don’t give bags, just boxes if you choose to use them. Why in the world would global citizens continue to destroy our planet for conveniences. Use your heart and save mother nature before she kicks our asses. Be responsible for everything you do, it’s the only way to save ourselves and our only planet which we call home.
Posted by: Lynne | June 3, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
I already use reuseable bags….so tax away!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: vickii | June 3, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
For the lady that can not afford to buy bags. Why not reuse the plastic and paper bags you can? Each time you shop buy one bag a visit. I have purchased bags for a $1.00 ea at Whole Foods. They are affordable. Times are hard but a little goes a long way.
Posted by: Dorothy | June 3, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
It’s almost 100% when I tell the clerks that I don’t need a bag (I don’t carry one into the store either) that they will ask “Are you sure you don’t need one?” It’s automatic that it goes into the bag first and I have to pull the items out. So it’s not just the consumers, it’s the psyche ingrained into the bagger.
Jack
Posted by: jacktechie | June 3, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
i use plastic grocery bags for trash so i don’t have to buy trash bags which are also made of plastic. i think a better way would be to give incentives for people who bring their plastic bags to a proper disposal facility like they do for plastic bottles.
Posted by: maria | June 3, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
germany makes you pay for bags since 80s why not get on the ball and get some reuseable bags and help save the planet tom from vegas
Posted by: tom | June 3, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Our city garbage men require that trash be bagged. Currently I use the grocery bags to do this. If I go to cloth bags for groceries I will have to buy plastic bags for the garbage. I can’t win.
Posted by: Homer | June 3, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
What do the stores think? When I bring in a fist full of plastic bags, this slows down the bagging process, because the checkers have to open the bags without the use of their handy bag dispensers. (Right now the bagging process is so fast I can hardly get my change into my wallet before the next customer is trying to get out of the checkout aisle behind me.) I do bring in my own bags, but I often slow down the line in doing so.
Posted by: Bonnie MacKenzie | June 3, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
how many people are going to wash green bags after each use. consider sweat from milk containers, meat package leakage, a squashed grape etc. , building up bacteria in these bags. in addition dirt and bacteria from vehicle trunks, bus floors, roach and insect larva transferable on paper and cloth – will then be brought into the store to be placed on the same checkout counters where you are placing your purchases. we are sanitizing our hands but we are going to put food in unsanitized bags. the bags are a convenience for the store as customers will buy more and they are already an expense covered in our cost . what about incineration or compaction of plastic bags that are not recycled for garbage as many if us do in place of buying ruffies or heftys. let’s remember health safty we just got over a pandemic scare.
Posted by: karen | June 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
We reuse our bags for our garbage. I guess we will have to buy our garbage bags
now. We recycle and compost everything.
Posted by: Michael | June 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
i thank it was the environmentalist who pushed the plastic bag to start with,over papper bags. so let them pay for it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: larry boggs | June 3, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
I already use cloth bags – 10 made from a $2.00 old sheet from the thrift. I would have no problem with a 50 cent tax, or even a dollar . . . maybe people would buy and use the cloth bags available at the store for a dollar paid once only.
Posted by: Yvette | June 3, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I am against this
Posted by: MIKE MELVYN | June 3, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
We’ve been shopping with tote bags for years. Discouraging the use of plastic bags is LONG overdue.
Hannaford’s super markets, until recently, gave a five
cent reward for any bag you brought in and used but
they have given up on this because people continued
to use plastic anyway.
Posted by: Guy Stoye | June 3, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I’ve used my own tote bags for a long time; it’s long past time the US started pulling its own environmental weight. We’re drowning in toxic plastic we’ve thrown away. The earth carries us on her back every day. Is this too much to do in return? So many objections to acting sensibly & responsibly. Think creatively & look for information, folks. This isn’t a tax on the poor. Use your own .99 tote for groceries. If you need plastic bags to sort recyclables into, get free plastic buckets instead from any restaurant. Reuse your own small plastic & paper grocery bags. Buy biodegradeable garbage bags. BTW, someone touted tree farms that supply wood pulp for bags as being good for the environment? Not really.
Posted by: hamster | June 3, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I reuse my plastic bags for trash & all kinds of things. So do most people. The groceries are already priced to include the cost of bags,& the plastic/paper/styrofoam that they are contained in. Stuff costs more than enough. I am aganist the taxing to death of the people. Especially when we’d have to buy trash bags to put our trash in anyways. This is a way to keep people broke, nickle and dime them to death. Control, control, control.
Posted by: NotAPlanToMe | June 3, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
I think the U.S. should use Germany as a guide. Their Grocery stores do not provide ANY containers for your groceries. You bring your own bags or boxes. Let us do that while we still have some trees left.
Suedell Powell
Posted by: Suedell | June 3, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Where is this tax money going? Is it a deposit like cans and bottles or is it just going to disappear into the black hole of government finances?
Posted by: ak | June 3, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
We should do what they do in Holland — sell the bags. If you forget to bring a bag, you purchase one from a vending machine. We paid half a Euro a bag. It was rather pricey, but we used it several times.
Posted by: davevanfunk | June 3, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
There are good biofrgradeable plastic bags. Here is some Do it yourself home guide to making your own plastics that are biodegradable, the same type material that some companies use to make their new biodegradable plastics. So you too can show your family, friends and neighbors that you are a mental genius and wizard and that there are real alternatives to banning plastic bags, replacing them and using these ‘new plastics’ that can decompose into compost.
Secret Natural Ingredients to make biodegradable plastics:
a) Starch (different types of starches have different strengths, durability’s and decomposition time periods)
b) Glycerin
c) Water
d) Vinegar
Mix, will appear milky, Heat in a container (pot, can, etc) stirring constantly with spatula till it become clear and bubbly, remove from heating source, pour onto silicone pad, spread to desired thickness with the spatula or add elements like fibers or food coloring to add strength or pour into a mold and cool for 24 hours.
For more information:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Potato-Plastic!/
I hope this was fun, informative, stimulating and helpful…….sounds like a fun project to try and do……
Posted by: James H Knott III | June 3, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I have been using cloth bags over a year, we need to not to be so wastefull, and care about the earth. Ralphs supermarket in CA does give a 5 cent credit when you use cloth.
Posted by: Patricia | June 3, 2009, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
I am all for doing eberything we can to improve and save our environment. We need to get serious about our world. I think the tax is a good nudge in the attempt to change things for the better. One question does remain. What would the collected tax money be used for?
Posted by: Steve | June 3, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
I use cloth shopping bags and put them inside each other and put them in my shopping cart. I bag my own items and even have a thermal bag for my dairy items. I’m doing my part. The grocery stores should be fined for having them
given to you automaticly at a regular check out line. At home I use paper bags and line them with foil and wax paper so there is no leaks. I make my own bags for my smaller pails in my bathroom from wax paper. I get my cold cuts and cheeses put in wax paper not plastic and transfer to rubbermaid or tupperware containers at home. I took all my old plastic bags and wrapped my Christmas ornaments in them so they wouldn’t break and packed them away. I live in a small town so my garbage pickup is once a week. I put my paper bags in a large lawn leaf paper bag and put it in my pail for garbage pickup. I DO MY PART AT THE STORES AND AT HOME. Let the grocery stores get taxed. They pack meat in plastic should I pay for that too! I didn’t ask
for plastic. Why should I pay.
Posted by: J. La Torre | June 3, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I think taxing plastic and paper bags may become a must, but perhaps we could simply start with an incentive to use cloth or reuseable bags first. In Northern CA our grocery stores offer a couple of cents rebate for each reusable bag you bring in, 10 cents per bag would be better. I know I try to remember to bring my bags in with me but sometimes forget and sometimes I end up buying more groceries than my bags can fit. I know we have to start doing more but I’m really tired of being taxed every time I turn around.
Posted by: AC | June 3, 2009, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
MANUFACTURERS neeed to be held responsible for all of their plastic packaging.
Posted by: malaria_kils | June 3, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
I would prefer to see a comparison of total energy used to manufacture, transport, and recycle each bag type, as well as volume taken when disposed of and number of uses employed. For example, Joule per cubic centimeter uses. I believe this would be an objective way to make an informed view on what bags are best for the ecology. Also, don’t forget that those 14 million trees used to make paper bags grow back. Finally, let’s make a truce: I’ll stop taking tax money out of your wallet for my social experiments if you do the same.
Posted by: Master Bagger | June 3, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
People are so concerned about convenience and not about the planet…interesting. I wonder if people will not care when the plastic pags cant be disposed of anywhere esle but by using eminent domain and destroy your homes to make a new dump. Its not that hard to bring a bag. We all have all sorts layin around the house. Ill even carry things in hand or in my pockets. No biggie to loose the plastic and paper so I can do my part. And if i really need a bag for some strange reason… 5 cents is not gonna kill me. Its a choice, u make it.
Posted by: Jose | June 3, 2009, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I use cloth shopping bags when I go shopping for groceries. I bag my own items and I even have a thermal bag for my dairy items. I believe that the grocery stores should be fined for giving their customers plastic and paper bags. I use 4 paper shopping bags for my garbage at home a week. I line my bags first with foil then with wax paper so they don’t leak. I make my own very small bags from wax paper for my toilet trash pails. When I buy cold cuts I ask for wax paper not plastic wrapping. When I get home I put them in my drawer in the fridge. I took all my plastic bags and wrapped my Christmas ornaments with them so they wouldn’t break and packed them away. I
put my garbage out in large lawn leaf paper bags. I sought my recycles and bring them myself to the recycle center. Are we going to be taxed for food wrappings too! I didn’t ask for my steaks and chickens to be put in styrofoam and plastic. Let the grocery store pay the tax. I DO MY PART AT HOME AND AT THE GROCERY STORE. I DON’T THINK I SHOULD BE TAXED, LET THE STORES GET TAXED. (they’ll probably increase their prices if they are taxed anyway.) BETTER YET–F I N E THEM, AND YOU’ll SEE HOW FAST PLASTIC BAGS DISSAPEAR RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES!!!!!
Posted by: J. La Torre | June 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
I re-use the plastic bags to hold dog feces and I re-use the paper bags to line the bottom of a bird cage.
Posted by: John | June 3, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
If people would return their used plastic bags to the recycyling bin in front of most every supermarket we would not have a litter problem and the plastic would be reused.
I use the grocery store bags to carry lunch to work, to carry dirty clothes in my suitcase when I fly, to cover garden plants when there is a frost warning. If I can’t get them at the supermarket I will have to buy plastic trash bags. And we would need at least 20 of the little cloth bags to hold a weeks groceries, and they will have to be run through the washing machine after the salad bar leaks ranch dressing into one of them. If the bags are taxed I will just carry all the groceries out to the car in the cart and load them into the trunk.
Posted by: DanS | June 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Environmentalists are responsible for the many increased costs levied upon us through higher taxes and more government mandates.
Posted by: mel | June 3, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
i use neither paper or plastic but lets get rid of all the plastic bottles water soda oilcans antifreeze etc …. baby pampers we all need to take care of mother earth !!!!!!
Posted by: leonardo torrez | June 4, 2009, 12:09 am 12:09 am
I really think that the stores should pay for the tax for the plastic bags that they buy to provide the shopper. The stores should offer some kind of discount for shoppers that bring in their own bags. Maybe, give the shoppers a 10 cents or more off, if they bring in a bag. I think any discount off your purchases will make people recycle and reuse things. It would also encourage people to not waste and use plastic bags and that will in return reduce plastic bags in our world. It is the stores that are making all of these problems to our world happen. If they use different forms of packing our items, we will follow. So, let the stores pay for the rubbish that they started in our world and let them end it.
Posted by: TRISH | June 4, 2009, 12:29 am 12:29 am
I just saw your article “Paper or Plastic”. I have shopped with re-useable bags for many years — cashiers were always surprised by this. Now I am living in Germany and nearly everyone carries their own bags. I am still using bags I bought in 2002. The lady in thenews piece stated this would be a hardship for the poot — perhaps, for a few months, the store could give a free cloth bag to customers who spend over $100. We all would benefit from these actions.
Posted by: Lorene Simmons | June 4, 2009, 1:57 am 1:57 am
Come on folks! I’m for cleaning up the environment as much as anybody, but I support doing it without having money flow into municipal coffers. In this case it often turns out to be just a revenue grab with a phony green face. It would be much more appropriate for stores to eliminate the offending bags. Let the stores worry about the economics and keep the revenue grabbers out of it.
Posted by: Wakeup | June 4, 2009, 1:58 am 1:58 am
No absolutely not. I’ll sooner not shop any store that’s going to try and slap me with a bag tax rather than pay it. I’m all for less waste, I’ve got a closet full of plastic bags and I already reuse/recycle them.
But the environmentalists also need to make up their minds! First it was we needed to stop using paper, the poor trees we’re cutting them all down. Move to plastic and save a tree! Now that we’re using plastic, we’re having to hear about how it’s making us dependent on oil, that they’re not as biodegradeable as everyone thought and they can’t be recycled anywhere near as easy as a…you guessed it, a paper bag!
Had they championed recylcing back in the late 70′s early 80′s rather than force a switch to plastic I’m sure we wouldn’t have this problem now…
KB
Posted by: K Blanco | June 4, 2009, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Groceries are sky high now and we do not need to pay for paper or plastic. Maybe we should eliminate the plastic and go back to paper only, like it used to be before we had any problems. There should not be a tax or charge.
Posted by: Sue Thomas | June 4, 2009, 5:27 am 5:27 am
I’m stationed in Japan and the local nationals charge 300 yen for each plastic bag used, which is about $3.00 a bag. It is not hard to bring a couple of cloth bags with you when you go shopping. It is also fairly inexpensive for something you can use over and over again (less than a top at Macy’s)and it makes you feel good about doing your part for the environment. If you don’t want to pay the tax then buy the cloth bags. If you don’t want to buy a cloth bag then pay 5 cents to save the earth. Isn’t the earth worth it?
Posted by: Jen | June 4, 2009, 5:33 am 5:33 am
I’ve purchased cloth bags for use at my favorite grocery store, and they’ve already paid for themselves because I get a 5-cent credit for every bag I bring. I wish all stores would do this – it would encourage more people to bring their own bags.
Posted by: Debbie | June 4, 2009, 5:35 am 5:35 am
I have stopped using plastic grocery bags and carry my own reusable fabric bags to be green & eco friendly. But now I find that I have to purchase plastic bags to throw out my trash instead of using the free grocery bags. Oy!
Posted by: Sara | June 4, 2009, 7:23 am 7:23 am
Shopper’s has the right idea! Each time I use my re-usable bags they GIVE ME FIVE CENTS. That’s money in my pocket and one less bag in a landfill. j
Posted by: Kelly | June 4, 2009, 8:40 am 8:40 am
why can’t people recycle their bags? I do….Walmart has a box right by their entrances. It is obivious that most of the population is still not geared to recyling. When are we going to get with it.
Posted by: sue | June 4, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am
I already pay extra for Curbside Recycling each month… Wouldn’t it be a little ridiculous to have to pay a tax on paper or plastic bags that I’m already paying to have recycled!
Posted by: Steve | June 4, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am
to make it work charge $1.00 for every paper or plastic bag needed at every store that will make every costumer bring in thier own bags
Posted by: marisela | June 4, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am
This is a terrible idea. Plastic bags are fully recyclable. All a person has to do is bring them back to the store they got them from and put them in the bins. Reusable bags carry lots of bacteria from using them over and over. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER TAX!
Posted by: ron | June 4, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am
I’m in agreement that they should start making recycled paper bags. Are they saying they can’t recycle paper shopping bags?
Posted by: GWP | June 4, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am
I don’t have a problem using recyclable bags, however, then what am I supposed to put my garbage in? The plastic bags sold for garbage are not environmentally friendly, are they? I also hope that if bags will be taxed that the baggers at the stores are properly trained. I don’t want to pay for numerous bags that only have a couple of items in them.
Posted by: kg | June 4, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Where I live this is very hip, people typically don’t do a weeks worth of grocery shopping because they believe food is fresher when bought that day (often a fallacy). Most women I know wouldn’t be caught dead with a plastic or paper bag so this may catch on without a tax. Great for the environment so people should go for it because they want to, not forced to.
Posted by: Hege321 | June 4, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am
If you are still resisting using reusable grocery bags you should use your favorite search engine and type “plastic bags oceans”. If that does not change your mind, then maybe we can bury you in a landfill at the end of your life. It is estimated there are approx. 40000 pieces of plastic floating around per square mile of ocean. The pics are disgusting and make me ashamed to be human.
Posted by: justlookin09 | June 4, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Stores need to train the employees to sack things properly so far fewer bags get used. At most stores they don’t pack the bags efficiently and I often find only a couple of items in a bag. I try to help out by grouping similar items on the conveyor belt but usually by the time I turn around and look at what’s been loaded into the cart it’s all messed up. Also – I never use the small plastic bags for fresh fruit and vegetables and that eliminates one level of waste. I wouldn’t want to pay a tax on excess bags that are wastefully packed so you’d have to watch the cashier like a hawk. How would that be fairly implemented? What about when you buy something breakable and they wrap it in a bunch of plastic bags? Would you pay a tax on the packing? The idea that I could carry enough canvas bags for all my groceries isn’t very practical.
Posted by: Wanda | June 4, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
In my opinion, grocery stores should not be offering either paper or plastic bags. Get rid of them altogether! Most grocery stores in my area (upstate New York) offer nice sized reusuable bags for as little as $.99 a bag. For an investment of $5-$6, it’s way more convenient to use these bags than to have to deal with a ton of plastic or paper bags. And even if people don’t want to make that investment, they could just reuse the tons of plastic bags they must have floating around their house!
Posted by: Anne | June 4, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Why should I pay Taxes at the store for paper or plastic when I have to pay county property taxes that inclued my recycling which my family does recycling I feel that is wrong paying twice for the same bag
Posted by: Eddie | June 4, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
I reuse the plastic bags at home in my trash cans in the bathrooms and on the dryer. What am I supposed to to, empty them in the trash can outside and let the trash men pour the stuff all over the road? How many cloth bags am I going to have to buy to load $100 – 200 worth of groceries. We are in a RECESSION. Give us a break and go after something else!
Posted by: Fonda Svatek | June 4, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am
The local chain of Reasor’s groc stores gives a 5 cent crdit for [each] cloth bag customers provide for their groceries. Great idea! Would make it greater if they charged customers 5 cents for each plastic or paper bag.
Posted by: Jack Welsh | June 4, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Just stop giving out paper or plastic bags in grocery stores and people will bring their own.
Posted by: Lizzie | June 4, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
I live in the rural south and use the reusable bags. most people in my area do not use these bags. our grocery/discount stores give me a hard time using them. they complain and often think they are too hard to use. only our local drugstores find them easier to use. i think alot has to do with where you live and the attitude of clerks as to if a person uses them. our area is mainly low income with a high unemployment rate, so a tax would be an undo burden on the people in my area. BUT I DO FEEL THAT USE OF THESE BAGS ARE WONDER THING AND I TRY TO USE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE (SOMETIMES I FORGET THEM). but a tax is really ridiculous.
Posted by: Katherine Williams | June 4, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Kudos to SF for eliminating plastic bags altogether. At a minimum, there should be a tax on plastic and paper bags. I have been using cloth bags for several months now and it isn’t a hardship. It simply involves a change in behavior.
Posted by: Terry | June 4, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Cloth is reusable, but how was the cotton grown? What pesticides and herbicides were used? How was it harvested? What kind of dyes or bleaches were used in decorating the cloth bags? Were the people sewing the bags treated and paid fairly? There’s more to this than just paper or plastic.
Posted by: Mindy | June 4, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I REUSE my plastic bags as trash liners, otherwise I’d have to BUY new ones for that purpose. I also REUSE my bags to stuff my kids poopy diapers in them! I don’t want to buy more to do the same!
Posted by: frida | June 4, 2009, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The taxes are only plausible if the money goes towards an environmental cause.
Posted by: Rich | June 4, 2009, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Anyone heard about the high rate of salmonella posioning lately? A recent study concluded that the bacteria came from re-using the reusable grocery bags. Folks are buying their meat, putting it in the bags, and raw meat juices are contaminating the bags. Nice. The post re the “paper farms” is correct, bags are not made from trees outside of farms. We stop using paper, the tree farmers go out of buiness. I reuse my plastic bags and recycle them, so how am I hurting the environment? Only the “sheeple” will swallow this one, it’s just another tax for the government to get more money from us. And far from helping the environment, it’s going to put genuinely “green” workers out of business. Great plan.
Posted by: R. F. | June 4, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
dont we get taxs enough the gov. trieding to take over we dont own anythings here on the earth not even our own home . next they will make us paid for the air
Posted by: vivian | June 4, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
we get taxs enough the govment takeing over we dont even own the home you buy if you dont paid taxs on it they get it too next they will taxes us for air
Posted by: vivian | June 4, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
My local supermarket gives us a 5 cent discount for each canvas bag we use. They sell them for 99 cents each, so the payback is quick.
Seeing shoppers leave with a cart-full of plastic bags is offensive to me. We use so much worthless packaging in America that it’s ridiculous. Items with a handle are put into a bag, and I have to beg the cashier not to give me a bag for the ONE ITEM I’m buying. I can carry it without the bag.
Posted by: Anthony | June 5, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Just another way for them to make poor people poorer
Posted by: Lewis | June 5, 2009, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Wonderful. Another damn tax. Since when is it OK to use the tax code for social engineering? Damn environmental whackos.
Posted by: Libertarian | June 5, 2009, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Ridiculous. Paper is a renewable resource. Trees are cut down and more trees are planted. Trees aren’t just disappearing. It’s in logging companies’ best interest to keep forests plentiful. Why would we hurt their livelyhood for no good reason? This is just an excuse for the government to reach into our pockets and try to make us feel good about taking more of our money by scaring us and labeling it an “environmental” issue.
Posted by: Paul | June 5, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
I think that is ridiculous. we already pay for high prices for food. and then have to pay for our bags. if people were not so greedy this wouldnt be a issue.
Posted by: Dorene | June 5, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am
im a cashier at a drug store, and when you work retail you tend to learn alot about people in general. the one thing that annoys me to no end is when someone buys one thing like mascara or a bottle of Tylenol, and they ask for a bag even though they have a giant purse. and then when i put it in the bag they carry it by the item in the bag not by the handles. i just see that as completely useless. i always give the customers a pat on the back when they say that they brought their own bag or dont need one. i have also noticed how companies use as much cardboard as possible to take up the most shelf space. i defiantly think that this needs to be regulated as well.
Posted by: gabe pronesti | June 5, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
i think we are already tax to much now! We don’t need to be taxed any more. They are killing us in TAXES!!!!
Posted by: connie | June 5, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
If you don’t want people to buy nuclear material, you just don’t make it available. You wouldn’t put on the market for sale with high taxes!
If you don’t want to pollute the environment with plastic or paper bags, you would offer alternatives without options to use Plastic and Paper… Although Paper will breakdown. If it is not available as a choice, we won’t pollute the environments. The same goes for plastic packaging; if you don’t want to pollute the environment, manufactures should use other methods such as rice based fillers and biodegradable packages.
Don’t blame the consumer. My vote, do not tax; but, stop making it available. That saves money for everybody as well as the environment.
Posted by: J.P. | June 5, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I don’t know if I’m in favor of a tax for shopping bags or not. I think what we need a social awareness rather than a tax…whatever works. One one hand I’m staunchly in favor; I’ve hated those @&%! things since day one. Except for maybe cost, there is absolutely nothing to their advantage. But on the other hand, at $7-10 a pop in most places no one is making it any easier to switch to a reusable fabric one. I was lucky enough to purchase one for about $1.50. But I want an inocuious bag that isn’t green and/or have some cutsey eco-slogan.
Posted by: AJ | June 5, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I don’t know if I’m in favor of a tax for shopping bags. I think what we need a social awareness rather than a tax…whatever works. One one hand I’m staunchly in favor; I’ve hated those @&%! things since day one. Except for maybe cost, there is absolutely nothing to its advantage. But on the other hand, at $7-10 a pop in most places no one is making it any easier to switch to a reusable fabric one. I was lucky enough to purchase one for about $1.50 and I found one. But I want an inocuious bag that isn’t green and/or have some cutsey eco-slogan.
Posted by: AJ | June 5, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I personally use re-useable bags now whenever I can. I can see the point of the tax on plastic bags, but I think it would be more beneficial to phase out making them all together.
Posted by: Tricia | June 6, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Cloth bags? I don’t oppose them but just how many cloth bags do you think would be needed for a weekly shopping trip to the supermarket for a typical family? Or is the idea that everyone should shop daily and buy only enough to fill one of those bags each time. Environmental impact of all of that driving back and forth?
Posted by: Bill | June 6, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am
I think we live in a FREE country and we should have the right to CHOOSE! When I was a kid all we had was paper then the plastic came out and paper seemed to be forgotten. I don’t mind a reusable bag if that is what you want but lets look at the health side of this- Do you want to be shopping next to someone who has fleas in their home and now they are loading up 10 bags of groceries? Anyone who has had fleas knows those little devils get in everything. If it is outlawed or ridiculiosly taxed then maybe someone who has lice unknowlingly and their kids plays with the bag- maybe i am going ot far but lets face it if I am spending $100′s on groceries AND other household items at your store you better not charge me for my bag!!!
Posted by: Jamie | June 6, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
To avoid the tax, simply spend $5 on 5 cloth bags that you can use for the rest of your life. This is seriously not a hindrance to anyone. Or, pull out some bags that you have lying in your attic. Nation of convenience or not, it’s easy and it just makes sense.
Posted by: Simmy | June 6, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
If we go to cloth bag how may job will we lose. It is like the gov wants you to think they want to make job but then tell us to stop useing plastic and paper bag. That creat hundreds of job that could be lost.
Posted by: Brian | June 6, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Does this idea pass the LOGIC test? Below are a list of facts and the pros and cons which should have been in the story. Poor, agenda driven reporting seems to be the norm for ABC “news” or propaganda, the latter seems to fit better.
Facts:
1) Logically if a product is scientifically proven to be lasting danger to people and permanently to the environment, then just BAN THE PRODUCT. This is just another ploy to tax the people by government under the guise of “protecting the environment”.
2) FACT: The plastic bag will degrade! Especially under sunlight, they are designed that way.
3) FACT: Many stores have recycling for the plastic bags. Alternative to a tax would be a discount for bringing the bags back to the store. (but then the poor govt doesn’t get a cut)
4) FACT: The paper bags will degrade and are also recyclable.
5) FACT: Tress Regrow and there are Tree Farms for this reason. More trees are killed for printing and writing paper and boxes. (do you want to tax all those too?)
6) FACT: There are other plastic “bags” used in a grocery store for sanitary reasons: i.e. the bags used for produce and meats. Are they included in the Tax, as they are more likely to be thrown away and not reused?
Pro’s:
1) Reduce or eliminate use of plastic bags at checkout. Reduces plastic bags and paper bags in landfills.
2) If GOVT is doing this for the correct reasons then Tax revenue can be used to reduce the cost of permanent bags (directly at the store), but this seems unlikely since govt want to control.
3) Reduces trees being cut down.
4) May reduce prices of goods at the store since the store no longer needs to purchase the bags or in less quantity*
5) Short term increase of production of reusable bags (but may be made in China), thus new hires will be needed until saturation, then fall off to current levels to maintain.
*Cost of goods will most likely not change.
Con’s:
1) Taxes people so that they can not spend money elsewhere (disposable income reduction). This will hurt the economy.
2) Reduces demand for plastic bags and Paper bags, thus the companies that produce these items will be forced to layoff people. This will hurt the economy.
3) Tree farm land no longer in use may be sold and clear cut for farm land or development, thus not as good for environment? Potentially hurts environment.
4) Spontaneous buying will be greatly reduced. Mall scenario… would you go and buy clothes in a department store spontaneously if you did not happen to have your “green” bag? This will hurt the economy.
5) People will have to spend extra on secondary uses of these bags, meaning less money to spend elsewhere (disposable income reduction). This will hurt the economy.
6) Must have several reusable bags always in your vehicle for unplanned store stops: Home Depot, CVS, Quicky marts, Best Buy, etc. This will mean that those bags will deteriorate faster (Heat damages)! Also, do you really want to use the same bag for groceries as bug spray and weed killer?
7) Are there unintended consequences like with CFL (mercury)? Reusable bags… are they recyclable (most are low priced are Plastic too! non- woven polypropylene -made in china)? Is there a program in place? how long does it take reusable bags to degrade in landfills?
8) Shop lifting may increase since all people will be carrying non-see though bags in all stores. This will increase cost of all goods. This will hurt the economy.
Conclusion:
There are other ways of influencing people to use reusable bags, such as recycle credits. The proper type of Reusable bag must be used since many are currently plastic and will cause just as much of a “problem” and will not degrade as quickly as the current bags. Cloth bags leak and you will still have to use bags to hold produce and meats. Do these bags get taxed too since they are unavoidable? From the pros and cons list, the economy will be affected negatively with the tax method.
I just wish that ABC did their job put in as much effort as I did, which is not much, to look at this idea from all angles. I just wish that Govt did the same!
Posted by: bob | June 6, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Unfortunately, a significant percentage of the populace is lazy, self-centered, ignorant, and generally unwilling to do anything that might inconvenience them or do something to contribute to the common good or the benefit of the environment.
I think plastic bags should be banned completely or be subject to a considerable surcharge. Cloth bags ROCK!
Posted by: MarkyMark | June 6, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
I think its absolutely absurd. To tax already struggling consumers is ridiculous. Especially this new walmart bag swap in California. They are selling reusable PLASTIC bags for 15 cents. Most of the pollution created by plastic bags is in the manufacturing methods especially in the creation of “nettles” or whatever they’re called.
Corporations spend over 4 billion dollars a year purchasing plastic bags they give away free. So are the corporations that are charging for they new bags going to lower their prices of products since they are now 4 billion dollars more profitable.. NO! They are still going to charge the same thing. This is the definition of greed. “Save the environment” is just a ploy by all corporations to make you think they are turning green, yeah they are turning green sucking it right out of your wallet.
Posted by: Greg | January 12, 2010, 12:18 am 12:18 am