Angry Chinese Mob Turns On ABC Reporters & Crew

Liberral [sic] Media is typical of the educated Chinese nationalist cheerleader of his/her government’s oppression and brutal treatment of a despised minority with truth and justice on its side. We should never forget that the Nazi SS had scores of PhDs on its member rolls. People like this have paid for their privileges by giving up their own personal liberty and cannot stand it when a Tibetan or Uighur is unwilling to make that sacrifice. When you ain’t got nothin’, you got nothin’ to lose.
More trouble coming without question.

It would be nice if you explained what you though was wrong with the article Edward Mangan. Or even brought a bit of coherence to your reply. No offense but from where I’m sitting it’s not the Americans that look brainwashed. This primitive nationalism that some Chinese like yourself are infected with will end up hindering China’s attempts to project itself onto the world stage. You and people like you are a stumbling block to China’s long term interests.

The Urighur are an oppressed and disriminated Minority. It’s that simple.
And Edward, what is there to learn about a mob of 30 Han beating up an Urighur for no reason? Footage is footage.
ABC just caught footage of what happens to Utighur on a regular basis. Props to ABC

@Bob
I was, though one can never be sure I think Edward Mangan would be unhappy with anyone labeling him Taiwanese. Edward Mangan seems to be a specimen of a certain group of Chinese given very limited (and when it come to history biased) education. Without the education and training in critical thinking, to know better, these Chinese not on only drink the Koolaid of government propaganda but chug it down. At times though, like with this recent unrest, Beijing through more flame on the fire then they actually wanted through their propaganda. It will be interesting to see what Beijing does with these useful idiots in the coming decades. The fervent nationalists are starting to be too blunt an instrument to be employed in most situations.

Please give American the truth as you are a reporter not an acompany with the Uighurs terrorist used by someone protected by some governments.They take use of your regime and partiality with no guilty feeling after killing ao many people even babies and pregnant woman, if the baseless words you can believe in, why you ignore the true????From the foundation of China, we han Chinese and Uighurs chinese work together and live together very well and I also have some Uighurs friends, some of them are very nice and bright, we all love China and want to get a better future,Please don’t mislead Amweican with you heart.

I am so glad that the world got to hear your voice Edward Mangan Beijing, China.
Now that it is clear to everyone who reads this article of what the chinese’s point of view in this conflict. It actually very much support the accuracy of ABC’s report. More chinese people like you should post their comments on the internet so the world could get a better understanding of the red china.
China is slow coming out from the closet to show its true face. The scarry thing is that they’re all over the world and among us. Becareful!

it is very sad to see many innocence citizen, woman, taxicab drivers and children got killed or got injured in the street riot of Xinjiang a few days ago, west of China by the some extremers and terrorist groups. Yet, it is even sad to dissappointed to observe some western media like this crew, has they has no profeesional conduct journalism. Selectively reporting one-sided negative story in the past few days. Knowing the fact that many innocence citizen got killed or got injured in the street riot of Xinjiang by the extremer and terrorist group. Why? just because they are in the wrong place and in the wrong time? Yet, there is no single coverage by any of ABCnews, they don’t deserve the attention? don’t they and their family has nay right? would the news team interview victim family in US? Yet, Is any of the family victims regardless of the ethnic group get interview or even being cover by our American media? NONE! where is the basic human right and voice of the victim. yet, 80% of wording by our media is to cover political viewpoint of Uighur extermer oversea and in US. Are this terorrist riot fund and support by the special interest group and CIA? Shame on you! Like reprot of ABC here, solely high light ethnic hate, ethnic difference and solely be posted one-sided story for Uighur extermer. After reading what these so call “Journalist”‘s report, I am not sure if people would still respecting these gang? Are they reporters or are they just some political speaker of special interest grop and terroist group? If NOT, why are they suppporting killing and beautify the action of exterme terroist group? They id it in Olynmpic and they did it here. Shame and disaapointed of ABC to support extermer and terrorism. It is interesting to point out that, even this report, the being demonized Chinese police officer are protecting all citizens of all ethnic group; “The police dragged the Uighur away and put him in a vehicle for his protection”

West Media like you have made me really sick.
I read CNN and Bloomberg every day and keep this habit for over 10 years, and, I check up many other west media like your web when somthing comes out. With a dear heart to double check what the China State Media may cover up, in the end I always find myself falling in love with China more and more after seeing so much biase and prejudice and fact-distortion in the West Media toward China, Chinese and the regime. This love may go further to understand better the regime and the government, especially since last time Lasha riot, I started to feel sick of West Media.
I think my case is a representative of many highly educated Chinese.

@ dave
funny i don’t recall china invade any country lately, last time i check xinjian and tibet are part of china. no country recognize xinjian or tibet is a independent state.
Also why is my post that shows evidence of uighur beating and killing han chinese was not posted.
is this blog only want to shows one side of story??

I think China’s lack of empathy for the viewpoint of others dooms any attempt on their part to be a major player on the global stage. A Chinese rise is likely to be checked by their neighbors who fear them more than the US. Incidents like this only serve to increase the suspicion with which the world views China. If China wants to be a global player a lot of things are going to have to change, otherwise the world will keep China’s ambitions penned in.

Here’s another one from the same editorial of the Chinese newspaper in Hong Kong:
“As of last evening, 140 people had been killed and 800 others injured in the riot in Urumqi. Most of them are Hans. According to an injured citizen, rioting Uygurs beat up any Hans on sight.”

Workers paradise…

This article, from the very beginning, frames the story as if the Han Chinese discriminate against minorities!
is it the case? obviously, not. for the minorities including mobs that attacked Han Chinese, the Chinese government has sort of affirmative action in place. Uigurs can get accepted into college at very low score. Uigurs can bully Han Chinese without less severe punishment. For instance, my undergraduate college in Beijing accepts many Uiqurs every year. These guys are completely mobs, and they can beat Han students without any punishment from the school authorities because of the trickiness of the ethnic issue. The school does not want to run into any sort of ethnic tension. Also, the one-child policy does not apply to minorities, and they can have as many as they want.
they become umemployed because they dont work hard!
at the end, I want to say Uigurs have never built up any country in history, and Xinjiang is not their motherland. If you are interested in history, you can google it.

The Chinese government pays people to post on websites like this in defense of the communist party- beware anyone who says they are from China and are defending it, they are most likely on the government payroll.

China confuses me. They could be a great super power but they have this nationalist streak that doomes them to failure. Edward phrased it perfectly when he insulted the media for reporting the truth when it makes china look bad. China will never be a superpower cause its government treates its citizens like children. Censuring the flow of data into the country and crushing any protests with brute force. You sure showed myanamar and Iran a thing or two about crushing dissent. I hope the peoples will wins out…but it doesn’t look good.

Blind nationalism of any type just shows a lack of real education. It doesn’t require any deep thinking to accept the party line. I’ve lived in China, & I saw this willingness to believe anything that the goverment puts in to the media. This kind of thinking only hurts China in the long run.

It sounds like the riot police care more about the Uyghur man then about the ABC news crew.

To Jimmy,
you began your comments with my comments are interesting. This exactly shows that western media only cover one side of the story.
To the noble guys here,
before you speak, google first. plenty of free information online can give you a good background for what it is going on.

I don’t know about this.
A lot of you here just don’t have any basic knowledge about this situation.
My friend’s husband, an American English teacher living in Urumqi witnessed the whole thing. He said that, “the police didn’t do anything wrong and the Uighurs just went berserked and started to hitting people.”
Also, the uighurs like many other minorities in China enjoyed actually better rights, well just like Native americans in the U.S.
i.e. 1. they can have multiple kids.
2. they can carry knives on the street.
3. they have preferred college enrollment rights

The US Media *did* report beatings of Han Chinese by Uighurs.
China has never attacked someone beyond what is a land dispute where China claims ownership, Mongolia excepted but they had their turn being the aggressor, too.
US News is censored by the corporations that own them, of which there are several. In China, the media is censored by the government, of which there is one.
The Chinese should heed the comments that behaving like vicious bullies will get you nowhere in the long run. You have to learn to take criticism and to use diplomacy in your responses. You just can’t dish out hatred everytime someone criticizes or disagrees with you.

Funny how most western media are trying quite hard to make the victim the agressor and the agressor the victim in this incident. Just like last years Tibetan Incident.
As usual, AP also tried to make it as if the communist party and goverment encouraged the Han Chinese mobs to form and attack uighers, saying Urumqi’s Communist Party leader Li Zhi was “chanting” to the mobs “pumped his fists” “beat his chest”(such colorful words, erh?), to “strike down” poor old innocent 62 years old Kadeer, while in reality he was just trying to assure the mobs that the goverment will and can handle the thing and trying t dispers the mob and telling them to go home.
One Journalist also said out clear trying to indicate that without foriegn journalist this HUGE event would “properbly” have gone suppressed and unreported because of chinese media control, this frase was obviously removed later. Guess imaginary event is now also part of the free reporting? Or they are still living in Maos time when the chinese themself have already went forward? As I recall the chinese state media was just as quick to show this news as the “free” media this time, and not even the remotely visited tibetan incident last year was covered up.
This is the power of suggestive indication mixed within the news, first they paint up a background picture of thier choice and from thier(political correctness and jounalist+editors) own wanted perspective for you and then they tell you the news, result is easy effective and unsuspecting brainwash, while at the same time noone can even blame them for not telling the “true” news however discolored those are, the chinese propaganda department certainly is outdated and have alot to learn from the “free” media.
But just to be clear, I certainly doesnt like the chinese propaganda department and media restrictions either, and are in no way believing that the chinese state media are objective, but neither do I think the Western “Free” media is much better, infact I belive it to be more decieveful cuz people in the west lack the same kind of vigilence and suspicion as when they are watching the Chinese state media.
All in all, China are today in a time of great social and economical changes, I am actually suprised that these kind of incident havnt occured more early and more often, I am sure that more will come in the coming couple decades until this time of great changes settles, would predict at some day in the middle of the this centry.

Communism is what it is– it was no different for the people living in the old USSR–they could not speak freely, only memorized propaganda. People disappeared for no apparent reason, never to be heard from again. Gangs of thugs, needing a release from all of the repression, would beat up anyone who crossed their paths for no reason whatsoever.
Many Chinese students who have been fortunate to come to the United States for education cry in relief when they are here because they do not have the weight of oppression on them here in the United States. They are no longer under the watchful eye of “Big Brother”–who could be a neighbor, a friend, a relative who is willing to turn in a dissident to the authorities in exchange for favors.

@Wocao Nima
Could you rephrase what you were trying to say to me, the language barrier makes communicating on these complex subjects difficult.
What you said seems strange when my entire post was on how there are two sides to the issue. How long have you been in the US?

This is a simple ethnic brawl, were alot more of these in India, even more bloody, but west have a way to focus its eye on China, since its a “evil” communist country.

This is Bush’s fault right?

Wow, the PRC got its money’s worth on this thread.

@marsha ross
no, it will be Palin’s fault.

No Wocao Nima I’ve heard quite a bit over the last decade about the Chinese government’s affirmative action policies, and the other reasons for the Han Chinese to feel abused. Your post was simply the most readable expression of those grievances posted so far on this thread. Again I’d like to note the validity of your concerns. What I wonder is whether you can see any reason why the Uighur’s might have valid complaints as well?

remember the Los Angeles riots of 1993? another explosion of ethnic anger, except this time it is in China.

@Ananda
And you think the 1993 race riot didn’t effect the way the world see’s America. Besides three times the number of deaths recorded for the LA riot have already been reported in China.

I think you westerners are always prejudiced to China and Chinese.I can see this will not be changed for a short while,but as a Chinese,I only want to tell you,if you’d like to know a real China and real Chinese people,please come here.I can guarantee,What you see here must be amazing and fascinating!You can also understand,what you learnt from your media is distorting and untrue!!!

you said angry chinese han is mob, but why they are angry ? why didn’t tell public why the chinese han is very angry ? because uighur mob killed more chinse han harmless victims. they becoem angry. they stand up to protect themsevlf. why you have so much prejudice to chinese han ? do you mean the uighur should killed harmless chinese han kids, woman, or old man or woman? do you mean uighur should kill all chinese han ? are you sure you are not a mob or idiot ? why uighur killer killed harmless chinese han is right ? but the chinese stand up to protect themselves is worng ? do you mind the uighur go to your home to kill your kids or mom ?

Bottom line: any news should report the fact, agree? Respect the truth, isn’t that the very spirit of the western culture?
Well the fact is:
1. Urighur killed most of the 156 death as the FIST event that’s followed by all the things happened later.
2. Most of the death are Han!
Now tell me,
1. is this “peaceful protest”? or is this even a “protest”
2. same thing happen in any western country, what the government is going to do?
3. if your family and friends are killed, you don’t simply have the anger and want to revenge as human nature?
Very very bottom line: Even the evil Chinese government is treating Urighur unfairly, holding up political prioners, DOES THAT give Urighur the rights to kill innocent people? to kill woman and child? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!
Every coin has 2 sides. There’re pictures and videos of the kills by Urighur everywhere, NOW WHERE’re evidence of the Police kills innocent people this time????? Give me a single one, please!!!
OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

I am a Han Chinese here in US. The reported 156 people died are believed to be innocent ordinary people, and the majority of them are said to be Han. It is chilling to see that ABCnews does not dine to mention it in the title, rather, it finds it more appealing to describe the revenging Han group as a mob. But this could probably also explain why the abc reporters & crew were targeted.

Say NO to Chinese Communism. They were a threat 30 years ago and they are STILL a threat today.

Actually, for the goverment’s rool ,the Han people in Xinjiang are the second class citizens , all the Chinese people know that. Because the Han people fight with other nations, the goverment always punish the Han people, they always say that the other nations need more protection.
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Why you show these photo all the time, but you didn’t show the 156 died people and over 1000 people in the hospital????!!!!!! They are killed and hurt by Uygurs !!!!
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The police must catch the killers!
… You just show pity for the Uygur women, but why did you forget their son or husband just killed the harmless Han people ???!!!! Even a 8 years ole kid!!!!!!!

btw, western people, you’ve always been trying hard to claim China is a threat to the world peace and is going to invade other countries,
guess what, why not just to google or wiki some history about the last 800 years?
Which country HAS BEEN INVADED by dozens of other countries, again and again?
Let me see… oh yeah, that was China!
And who invaded China? Wow, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Japan, ….. I can’t even count with my fingers!!!! And now you claim China as the one who’s always trying to invade others?????
And that also reminds me another simple question: There have been 2 World Wide War. And who ignited them? …………….. OH AGAIN, IT’S THE WESTERN!!!! And what on earth the logic is to conclude the one who has always been hurted is the treat to the peace?

I need the other-side of the story!Please give the whole one!

You know guys the western media would be happy to show pictures of the 156 dead, if they had pictures. To a degree the western media is just showing what they can get there hands on. Maybe if the Chinese government allowed greater access there would be more balanced coverage.

“This region is of particular interest to China’s central government as it is rich in resources in particular natural gas”
hahhahaha , that the way you US guy thing. Every thing you think about is interest. Did you know, when xingjiang become a province of China , there was EVEN no any investigation of natural gas??
there was EVEN no one known how they can use gas?
Do you US guys cared about the life who lives in middile east, when you did not know there is oil under there houses?!

pls do not believe this news.
If you want to know the true ,pls come to China.
Welcome to China

what is the regular basis.The U.S killed thousands of Muslim in Afghanistan for Revenge after 2001.you people bing them fear,engry,death.Where is the human right. Do you think you have any rights to Comments what happened in CHINA,I don’t think so.

@Benjamin Yu
I think I know the videos your talking about. Like the one with the two bloodied Han woman protesting? I have to admit I am growing a bit skeptical of this 153 dead number, we haven’t seen any videos to prove it, after all. The Chinese governments often uses the age old tactic of giving the people an enemy so they won’t focus on thing closer to home (this happens to the US and Japan in China as well). I am not saying the Han’s concerns are invalid I am simply saying that there being manipulated by their government. Unfortunately for Beijing things got hotter than the originally planed.

Liberal media???? What are you people talking about? How is ABC reporting WHAT THEY SAW being biased “liberal” media. You’re ignorance is astounding! I, am a member of the media, however not on the network level. First of all, we report what we see, and we do our best to get both sides of the story. You blast ABC for what they are reporting, just because you don’t like the fact that your side isn’t being portrayed positively. Well guess what? That right there should tell you something.
Second, I’m sick of people saying, “liberal” media. I’ve met some of the most conservative right wing republicans I’ve ever known working in this business. Including a journalist that had a framed photo of George W. Bush on his desk.
What is happening in China is terrible. But the fact of the matter is, a group of people are being treated badly because they don’t share the beliefs of the governmeant. Communism is an outdated philosophy. If you truely want China to achieve it’s rightful place in the world, you need to catch up with the 21st century.

The Chinese commenters can argue and argue and argue all they want. Images are powerful, especially visual.
All the world is seeing are Uighurs being killed in their “own land.”
If East Turkestan (I refuse to call it Xinjiang any longer) is truly Uighur land then why are Han being relocated out there?
Why are Uighurs being treated like lower citizens in their “own land.” I haven’t been watchin, but I know Uighurs from having lived in Central Asia.
Someone said it best, someone with nothing to lose is the most dangerous opponent.

Chineese government conducted 46 nukleer tests in uighur. And forced 15 million abortions. And by government, under employement opportunities program 300 000 uighur girls were forced to sex slaves. By government newspaper, a lie story was told that uighurs harassed han girls which was a lie so that they can go on kill all uighurs. But uighurs know where uighur is located. Even if chineese kill all of them this will not be forgotten in 5000 years to come.
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SUCH A IDIOT WILL BELIEVE THAT.OMG,,GIVE US THE PROOF WHICH CAN PROVE WHAT YOU SAID.YOU LEARN THAT FROM WHERE? MAKING UP STORIES CAN NOT BE A SOLUTION AND RELIEVE THE SITUATION. THERE.WHAT WE NEED IS TRUTH NOT STORY.

The fact is simple. It is like what happened in the USA. Aferican Americans are an opressed and discriminated minority, but can it be an excuse for them to slay white Americans? Only 33 of 156 killed people are Uighurs, the rest are all Han Chinese. That is the criminal nobody can tolerate, wherever it is. It is that simple.

ABC Reporters & Crew are risking their lives to bring bias reports to the world. Bravo! Hey, next time don’t forget shooting even one single picture of Han Chinese victims.

Oh, come on now, wen. Tibet has been “part of China” only since 1950, after an unprovoked invasion of military conquest and ruthless ethnic cleasing on the part of the Mao regime. No amount of crude, hyper-nationalistic Chinese posturing can ever change that.

what are the Han chinese doing in xianjian you do not belong there just like you do not belong in Tibet, i know what you have done to the tibetans ie: torture ,forced abortions and sterlization ect ect, and i am sure its not so different in xianjian. I am not in the slightest supprised what has happened in xianjian, why should any people anywhere in the world put up this type of FACIST control ,the chinese goverment even kills its own people (han chinese) have you forgotten Tianmen Square, wake up china your goverment is not so different to many other facist goverments around the world ,its all about power and control, a human life means nothing to these facist they are just sick and driven by the quest for more power

hi message to Annie,+ anyone else who hasn,t been totally brainwashed by world goverments/facists,yeah i get most of wat ur saying Annie ,not sure wat country your in but not buying anything made in China here in the uk is now virtually impossible + i am not totally against buying chinese products cos i am not against the chinese people i just dont agree with lots of things their Facist goverment does, but anyway its all the other FACIST goverments and big buisness thats doing the trading with them, i dont really need garlic all the way from china, cos french, spanish, or italian is fine + you can get good home grown garlic here in the uk