Risks vs. Benefits of HPV Vaccine: Dr. Tim Johnson Weighs In
From ABC News' Chief Medical Editor Dr. Timothy Johnson:
Today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) contains two articles – and an excellent editorial – addressing the question of whether the benefits of the Gardasil vaccine outweigh its risks. The vaccine is designed to prevent infection by two strains of the HPV (Human Papilloma Virus); these strains are said to account for about 70% of cervical cancer cases. The vaccine is now recommended for 11-12 year old girls before they become sexually active. For the first time in my career, I cannot recommend a vaccine for its intended population — in this case, young girls. Therefore I am going to say that any parent considering this vaccine for their daughter should read the editorial in JAMA and then talk to their doctor before deciding.

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What should parents do that have already had their daughters vacinated??
Posted by: Kim | August 18, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
The vaccine is given in 3 shots so if one has already had the first dose, do they have to take the remaining 2 doses?
Posted by: Christine Mboone | August 18, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
i got vaccinations yesterday and my mom decided not to get me the gardisil vaccine. This article surprised me on the news today because of the fact that i DIDNT get the vaccine.
Posted by: Morgan | August 18, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
My 12 year old daughter has already received two of the three . . . should I allow them to give the third and if not are there any risk to just having two?
Posted by: Julie | August 18, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Dr. Tim Johnsson,
Thx for giving your unreserved endorsement of this product on an earlier broadcast. Shame on you!
Posted by: Mark White | August 18, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
You would do a world of good if you came on the news and announced your opinion, not us having to go a ‘blog’…this has been a sore spot for many mom’s and we do NOT agree with this vaccine! But the drug companys and dr’s kickbacks for the administering of this outweigh any thing that is the real consenus. Thank You!
Posted by: Coastal Lady | August 18, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Did you ever notice that all the ads for this vaccine do not mention that HPV is a sexually transmitted disease??Wonder why??? $$$$$$
Posted by: Sheila | August 18, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
As a parent of a daughter I, too, am opposed to the massive campaign to immunize without adequate proof of effectiveness. It seems that pharmaceutical companies are ignoring good science in the effort to make a quick profit. We have watched this happen with a number of drugs in recent years and I will no longer follow a doctor’s advice when it comes to new medications.
Posted by: J Nafzinger | August 18, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Dr. Tim you are singing a different tune today than you did when this vaccine came out. I remember you saying if you had a daughter you would get her vaccinated. Redness at the injection sight, dizziness and fainting were mentioned on our local news story. Seems as though any of those things could happen with any injection. These were also mentioned when this vaccine originated. These new findings should be broken down into age groups before uneccessary fear is spread. Too little information.
Posted by: christine | August 18, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
ref. your story on gardasil, why are girls the only target of the vaccine? I understand the virus comes from the male. Why no vaccine for the male, or is this the typical male controlling the female because the male is scared to death of their responsibilty in this issue? Lets get out of the dark ages and treat both sexes.
Posted by: joe winfield | August 18, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
What about older teens, say ages 16 to 19. Is this vaccine safe for this segment of the population, whether they are sexually active or not?
Posted by: Ann | August 18, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
WHAT SHOULD PARENTS DO THAT ALREADY HAD THEIR DAUGHTERS VACINATED? THEY ARE OLDER WHEN RECEIVED. ONE WAS 17 YRS OLD AND THE OTHER 23 YEARS OLD.
Posted by: SHARON | August 18, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Before we get hysterical, we should remember that the number of serious complications is very small compared to the total number of vaccinations given. I read all available material, talked to my daughter’s doctor, and discussed the matter with my husband and we decided to get the vaccination. My daughter has had two of the three shots, and she will received the third in two months. Anything I can do to lower her risk of cancer is my obligation. People were afraid of penicillin when it was invented, too. The chicken pox vaccine was controversial when it came out, too.
Posted by: Sherry | August 18, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
The vaccine is given in 3 shots so if one has already had the first dose, do they have to take the remaining 2 doses?
Posted by: Bonnie Parker | August 18, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
So happy my daughters pediatrician is conservative! She does not offer the vaccine. Thank you Dr. Bacola,for not jumping on the band wagon.
Posted by: kathy | August 18, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I want to know the same thing Sharon does – what, if anything, should parents do if they already had their daughters vacinated? Are they still in danger?
Posted by: kathleen | August 18, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Dr. Tim: Please respond to the questions posted here!
Posted by: Dad | August 18, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Very irresponsible that the broadcast did not address the concerns of parents that have already had their daughters vacinated. I immediately logged onto the world newser again to find minimal information. Very disappointing…
Posted by: Liz | August 18, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
What in the world ii going with these drug makers and what is wrong with the FDA. Why doesn’t anyone know what they’re doing. They tell us to give this shot to our children, then they say it’s no good for them. We tossed this idea of getting this for our daughter, finally, we thought she should get it. When she was a baby the chicken pox vaccine was new , I chose not to get it for her. She ended up in the hospital for 5 days with cellulitus from the chicken pox, I thought maybe the sme thing will happen without gardasil. She got it less than a week ago, NOW WHAT?????? I thought that good old Tim was going to answer these ????? We are not uneducated, we thought we were doing the right thing. I know that we are not alone, but why don’t you give us some kind of answers????
Posted by: Kelly | August 18, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Dr. Tim
I was reluctant to give this shot to my daughter but I repeatedly had physicians tell me that I was in “denial” that my daughter would be sexually active and that I should get her vaccinated. What now..should she get her third dose?
Posted by: sue | August 18, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
several years too late. People, including doctors, have been questioning this vaccine for years. Especially after Texas Gov.Perry by a quasi executive order tried to get every girl in Texas to take the vaccine, suspiciously Perry received money from Merck. As did Virginia governor Kaine who also was similiarly lobbyed apparently. I’m sure they weren’t the only politician. There also was a questionable group called “Women In Government”, funded by Merck but it is hard to find how much money they’ve given to politicians.
ps: I suspect the “swine” flu shot will be written about in a few years also– after millions are innoculated, and possibly harmed, and millions given to BigPharma and university/government researchers!
Posted by: Ed | August 18, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
And When your daughter has invasive cervical cancer at the tender age of 21, you all might think twice about what you are afraid of.
Posted by: Karen | August 18, 2009, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
I suggest everyone should read the study in JAMA before jumping to conclusions. The number of people reporting adverse effects is very small and similar to other major vaccines were have proven very safe and effective. Thus far for the two serotypes concerned, the vaccine has proven reasonably effective at preventing HPV infection and spread. The idea proposed in the editorial to follow women for 20 to 40 is quite frankly idiotic. I will have my daughter vaccinated and will continue to have her monitored against cervical cancer through PAP smears/etc. later in life…I will not deny her the opportunity for better health because I depended on ABC and a TV doctor to tell me what to do.
Posted by: Zack | August 18, 2009, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
My daughter is eighteen years old now and when she was seventeen she received the shot..I was extremely reluctant at the time, I remember my husband and I both talking about it and thinking there was not enough information out there for parents. Now after shoving that commercial down our throats for the last two years, your telling us you would not reccommend it. I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE GIRLS WHO HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN THERE SHOTS,no one addressed that on the broadcast!
Posted by: tracy | August 18, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Yes, it would be helpful to know how long after being vaccinated these girls could still be at risk for complications! I had four of my five daughters vaccinated two years ago. After receiving information from two ob-gyns and their pediatrician I thought it was a smart and safe thing to do! I read the information beforehand and discussed it with my husband also. It would be nice to know all of the facts! I’m so tired of hearing about these risks now after the fact! I would just like to have a little more information about these cases that have had negative affects.
Posted by: Kari | August 18, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
I am not too sure what to do now. My oldest daughter got the first dose or shot in June and is scheduled to get the second dose this month. I am not to sure if I should continue, especially with this report today.
Posted by: Jacqueline J Haubert | August 18, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Dr. Tim, I read the JAMA article that your current opinion is based on and I would have to say that everyone has to look at it individually. Personally, I’ve been there, first diagnosis at age 26, multiple surgeries later, screening 4x/yr for 5 yrs. At 35 I got the call I dreaded and the whole process started all over. Again, multiple procedures later and finally a hysterectomy. I have no children and HPV played a part in that. I wouldn’t wish what I’ve had to go through on any woman. I have a young niece, soon she will be old enough to have the vaccine. Obviously, I was one of the ones suseptible to the HPV viruses. Should my niece have to take the chance that she won’t be? Don’t let them fool you, just because you can detect cervical cancer early with PAP screenings doesn’t mean they can stop you from getting cervical cancer. Or that they can prevent you from having to face some of its tougher outcomes. Each parent has to make their own decisions, I will hope that your daughters don’t have to go through what I have.
Posted by: Been There | August 18, 2009, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Dr. Tim
I remember when you told us that you would give this vaccine to your daughter. You were all for it at the time. Please give us some advice on what we need to know now that we have vaccinated our daughters.
Posted by: Sue | August 18, 2009, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
I’m sure we’re not the only ones who wrote to Dr. Johnson when Gardasil was first promoted so positively. Merck already has a track record of putting profit before patient health (or even safety). Why do we allow big drug companies (now cutting backroom deals with Obama) to use our children as test tubes and profit sources, when their own ads admit they may be useless? The inmates are running the asylum — and making millions in the process.
Posted by: Jackie & Tim | August 18, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
I to would like to know what to do . my daughter just recieved her first shot? what are the sighs to look for ? and should I bring her back to see if she has blood clots? maybe a blood test?
what happeneds if i do not bring her back for her 2nd and 3rd shot?
she is 15. and she had other shots with that one also, flu. tdap. so now what?? or maybe i will just call her Dr. but I think everyone would like to know What the heck to do . thank you for your time. donna
Posted by: donna | August 18, 2009, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Where ARE the ANSWERS everyone here is asking for?!
Posted by: Kim | August 18, 2009, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
My 17 year old daughter got the vaccination and by the second shot was having seizures and memory loss. after the third shot she had a grandmal seizure and was admited to the hospital. She continues to have seizures ans is on lots of medication. It was very diffucult for her to finish her senior year of highschool due to the memory loss and seizures. I do not recomend the shot it is a chance that you are taking with your child and we don’t know if they will be able to have healthy childre of their own some day. Look on the internet and you will find thousands of girls with adverse effects from the Gardasil. DO NOT GET THE SHOT!
Posted by: Becky | August 19, 2009, 8:30 am 8:30 am
My 12 year old daughter heard the news about gardisil, she has already had her first dose, now she is terrified. She looks at me with distrust and thinks she’s gone to die.
Posted by: Sharon Holly | August 19, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am
In regards to kickbacks to physicians – I can personally tell you as an involved medical administrator that I know of NO pediatrician that has been offered or received kickbacks! Docs are NOT profiting financially from this vaccine – can’t speak for the manufacturer.
Posted by: Patricia | August 19, 2009, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Add Katie Tudor to the list of children who died after receiving gardasil. Do not lead your daughters to this cliff.
Posted by: dietra fischer | August 19, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Dear Dr.Tim
i had my daughter immunize against the HPV virus on the strong advice of our pediatrician at the age of 13.Iwas told this was going to be manditory for school just like the other childhood immunizations. Since recieving the Gardisil series all of my daughter’s hair has fallen out! we’ve been to numerous Dermatologists .the diagnoses alopecia aerata due to an autioimmune disease . Oh my God what poison has been allowed to be pushed on my child under the deguise of good?? At the time of her series of Gardisil there was alot of talk for the state that this would be mandatory for high school entry.
I can’t express my anger and the feeling of betrayal . please respond …
Posted by: Trudy Thompson | August 19, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Two years ago my daughter did a school paper on this vacine. At that time there were 9 deaths associatied with it, along with a host of other problems that the public didn’t hear about from the drug company or the FDA.Every health care person she has come in contact with since this campain was started has promoted this vaccine.Not only did she refuse …this free vaccine…..but also encouraged anyone who would listen not to do it. She was ridiculde by an employe of our local health department, who claimed it was perfectly safe. My question is who picked up the tab for these free vaccines….were our daughters just guinea pigs? Were there kickbacks given?
What took them so long to come clean?
How many deaths are too many?
If my daughter who was 17 at the time noticed these problems why couldn’t our trained professionals?
Posted by: Diane | August 19, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
I think everyone needs to relax a little. There are side effects with ANY vaccine given to children. It is a known fact. And if any of you have actually HAD cervical cancer, and have actually HAD the majority of your cervix removed through several painful operations, to the point that you can no longer HAVE children, then maybe you would reconsider your opinion. Take it from someone who’s been there. If the majority of side effects are minimal, then so is the risk. You take just as big a risk giving your child ibuprofen, as this too, can cause fatal side effects..rare, but possible.
Posted by: Vicki | August 19, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
In Dr. Tim’s defense, although he may have said “if I had a daughter I would get her vaccinated” when the vaccine was first introduced, he did report in August 2008:
“Well I think the company did a very effective job of glossing over these questions in its marketing campaign and convincing the public that this vaccine would indeed prevent cervical cancer. As Sharyn rightly points out, that simply has not been proven long term. So I think we have to be more cautious especially about mass vaccination programs, for example required for school entry. I’d also say, Charlie, that any parent, who after reading and thinking about it, wants to adopt a wait and see attitude, that parent should not be criticized.”
Posted by: Herb Newborg | August 19, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
my daughter is 12 and has already had all 3 shots is she safe?
Posted by: kenneth | August 19, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Medicine is not a perfect science!! So, listen up! ABC reported on a “editoral opinion”. Which, to me, is another example of the media’s ability to sensationalize an issue without basing the reports on facts. My daughter has had two doses of Gardasil with one adverse effect – syncope with the first injection. Before taking any medicine, read the information available, ask your clinician, go to the FDA’s Medwatch website – review the side effects and make an informed decision. WAKE UP AMERICA!
Posted by: Mike Kraska | August 19, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Dr. Tim and our medical unit have answered some of your most commonly asked questions. You can find answers to your HPV Vaccine questions here: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/WellnessNews/story?id=8367342
Posted by: ABC News | August 19, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
My daughter has gotten one of the shots will she be ok if we don’t get the other two
Posted by: Debbie | August 19, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
I had this vaccine last year, at 24-years-old, because my doctor recommended it. Within 30 seconds of receiving the shot, I passed out in the doctors office. I was taken to the ER, all the while having severe nausea. Later my doctor dismissed my claim this vaccine had anything to do with me passing out. Is there anything I need to do in terms of telling someone I experienced these side effects, since my doctor will likely not communicate my symptoms with others?
Posted by: Nicole | August 19, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I am so mad at myself for not listening to my gut instinct on this dangerous vaccine. It wasn’t out long enough and there weren’t enough tests done over time yet, pediatricians, nurses, tv commercials, mtv, peer pressure and even our very own Dr. Tim so easily and matter of factly pressured us moms and teens to vaccinate our kids with this poison. Shame on you all!
Dr. Tim Johnson, please answer whether this vaccine poses any long term risks for those who have already received one or all three Gardasil vaccines????
Posted by: Athena | August 19, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Oh and by the way Moms …
My pediatrician is no longer giving the Gardasil vaccines.
Our daughters should not ever have been guinea pigs for this vaccine. Way to go big pharmaceutical companies and all those who are in your pockets! When will you get that they are our precious children with their whole lives ahead of them, they are not money profits, numbers, and statistics, and their lives should not be a gamble.
Posted by: Athena | August 19, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
I think is SCARY that the article mentions that there are NO LONG TERM STUDIES on this vaccine. How could the medical community ever endorse a vaccine that has no long term studies? I am also suspicious that there is more to this story, that maybe more girls are being harmed than being reported since the press is usually so pro-vaccine. Ever notice how many drug commercials are on TV? How much are the drug companies paying the networks and press? This also leads to the next obvious question…what about all the other vaccines? How safe are ALL of them?
Posted by: lisa | August 19, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
my friend just buried her daughter….she got the shot and was dead in a few days. google gardasil videos and see the other parants holding pix of there dead children
Posted by: liza trainer | August 19, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
My college age daugher had received the gardisal 18 months ago. She was talked into it by her doctor. She became very ill. The second shot we were in the hospital shortly after that. I asked so many times if it could possibly be the Gardisial and they insisted it was not.
Well one year later she has an irreg pap. I am really worried about her.
Could it be possible that she has contracted the virus and now has a form of it from the vaccine?
Thanks for your comments
Posted by: Marie Eckhardt | August 19, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
I have read more than the editorial, and Dr. Tim is way off on this one, in fact, irresponsible.
There is no danger scientifically linked to Gardasil, in fact, the science proves this vaccine works and is as safe as any other vaccine.
Trust your doctors people, not the news media.
Posted by: Richard | August 19, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
I think that ABC’s presentation of this data on World News Tonight was unbalanced at best and has ratcheted up the fear factor for lay people.
While I agree the risk cervical cancer in the USA may have been overpromoted, HPV infections are a sexually transmitted group of diseases, and some HPV infections do have implications that may effect a woman’s future fertility. The HPV sub-types that this vaccine covers are some of the worst actors in regards to HPV.
All those experts recommending surveillance through PAP aren’t mentioning that once a women has moved into high risk, there are obligate biopsies and full thickness shavings of the cervix which have associated risks including cervical stenosis (closed cervix), cervical incompetence, and infertility.
HPV infections are rampant, and I believe any vaccine that cuts the risk of an STD and the possibility of cancer is worth consideration in this day and age.
Posted by: Andrea, M.D. | August 20, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Thx for the information about the affects and risks of Gardisal. I have taken the first dose of Gardisal but now that i have this information I have decided not to follow through with the rest. I still don’t understand how Gardisal has been advertising all these years about how it can prevent the HPV and doctors are saying otherwise
Posted by: Miyah | August 20, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
I am 16 years old. I got my first shot on July 2,2008 two weeks later I passed out in my living room. I got my second shot on September 2,2008 and on Sep 8,2008 i was in MAJOR pain and was taken to my first doctors appointment of about 100. From passing out and pain it went to head aches, racing heart rates, my toes would turn purple beause my blood wouldn’t flow right and many many other things. 7 months later they sent me to the MN Mayo Clinic. Finally they told me I have Autonomic Dysfunction and Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. I missed my 10th grade year of high school and I may never get totally better. DO NOT give your daughter this shot, I don’t want her to go through this.
Posted by: Katlyn | August 20, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
So many queries want to know what to do now that their daughters have received the vaccine. My answer is to take a heavy metal detoxifier, as all vaccines contain heavy metals, such as aluminum. If I may, I would highly recommend Detoxamin. It comes in a childrens and adults formula. It’s a suppository, so the EDTA is not ruined by the acid in the stomach juices. It’s the EDTA that binds with the heavy metals and removes them from the body.
Posted by: Mom | August 27, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Many queries are about what to do now that a daughter has been vaccinated. I highly recommend Detoxamin, as it is a heavy metal detoxifier, and all vaccines contain heavy metals such as aluminum. This product is a suppository that will allow the EDTA to bind with the heavy metals and remove them from the body.
Posted by: Mom | August 27, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
is there penicillin in the hpv vaccination (cervical cancer)
Posted by: natasha | September 13, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
The FDA thinks that the HPV vaccine that screens against cervical cancer is extremely important. Do you agree? Who am I supposed to believe. My doctor doesn’t offer the vaccine. I read this article: can anyone else recommend a reliable source? There is so much information out there!
Posted by: mary jane | November 30, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm