Fact Check: Can You Keep Your Current Health Plan?

So, the right wing nutcase argument needs to stop!!

Great and fair reporting, I wished more of the media would begin challenging some of this misinformation.

Perhaps you’ve seen this circulating with a picture of Charlie Gibson and the President:
FINALLY…THE $64,000 QUESTION WAS ASKED…YESTERDAY ON “ABC-TV” (BETTER KNOWN AS THE ALL BARRACK CH ANN EL)
DURING THE “NETWORK SPECIAL ON HEALTH CARE”….OBAMA WAS ASKED:
“MR. PRESIDENT WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW ‘UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM’ THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE ON ????”….. (BET YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER)…
THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT !!!…
I know I saw this live, but cannot find it on ABCNEWS.COM. I know that the President has never had a moment of “stoney silence” in any interview. His answer was pretty good if my memory is correct. Please post a link to this interview.

Every economic book should contain the following as an opening flyleaf:
For any entity (individual, family, business, town, county, state, country, corporation):
((Assets – Expenditures + Earnings) over time from creation to the present) must be gte zero.
Ignore this basic law and pay the consequences of economic and entity demise. Otherwise, discuss trivial economic details to distraction without encouraging understanding and without ever solving anything.
Where does this put Obama and all his snake oil?

Am surprise that some people don’t seem to see the goodness of this programme their government is introducing. I think the myopic few are not telling the masses their inward fears about how Obama will become more popular if he goes through with this plan,because they choose to play politics rather than see simple reason,that this is very helpful and it saves lives. They should come to Britain and ask us what health care is all about and what they are missing.It’s really a shame that people should not embrace the programme and stop playing politics and allowing the insurance companies determine their fate. Here in Britain,no one is loosing their sleep over medical bill,and we get the best when it comes to health care.It is true that change is always difficult,but now,it seems that politics has taken over the importance of the programme and people are getting only the wrong informations about the programme.If they don’t get it done now,then America should forget it forever,cos,the arguement will always kill the efforts,no matter who is the president.

Page 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC Bill – YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC Bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get
Page 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC Bill – HC will be provided to ALL non-U.S. citizens, illegal or otherwise
Page 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Health Care Card will be issued!
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Page 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations (ACORN).
Page 72 Lines 8-14 Government is creating a Health Care Exchange to bring private health care plans under government control.
Page 84 Sec 203 HC Bill – Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private health care plans in the Exchange
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The government will ration your health care!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Government mandates linguistic appropriate services.
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The government will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for government Health Care Plan
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members – Your health care WILL be rationed
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
Page 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue the government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against this government monopoly.
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors/ #AMA – The government will tell YOU what you can make.
Page 145 Line 15-17 An employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE
Page 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part-time employees AND their families.
Page 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer w/ payroll 400k and above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
Page 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between 251k and 400k who do not provide public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Page 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable health care according to government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay).
Page 195 Officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans’ financial and personal records.
Page 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it says that.
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, it does not matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.
Page 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of doctors’ time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
Page 265 Sec 1131Government mandates and controls productivity for private health care industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The government will penalize hospitals for what government deems preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and release.)
Page 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors that treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission- Government will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investmen t. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand.
Page 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception, BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!
Page335 L 16-25 Page 336-339 – Government mandates establishment of outcome based measures. Health Care the way they want. Rationing.
Page 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Government plan.
Page 354 Sec 1177 – Government will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people!
Page 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy – Tele-health Advisory Committee. Health care by phone/Internet?
Page 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consultion. Think Senior Citizens end of life.
Page 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.
Page 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The government has a say in how your life ends.
Page 429 Lines 1-9 An “advanced care planning consult” will be used frequently as patient’s health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12 ” advanced care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.
Page 429 Lines 13-25 – The government will specify which doctors can write an end of life order.
Page 430 Lines 11-15 The government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Page 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services=Non- profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?
Page 489 Sec 1308 The government will cover Marriage and Family therapy. They will insert government into your marriage.
Page 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.
Page 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.
Page 503 Lines 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.
Page 503 lines 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the U.S. who have any of your data.
Page 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published and unpublished (that means public and your private info).
Page 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
Page 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from Health Care consumer reps – Can you say unions and ACORN?
Page 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.
Page 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what quality means in health care. Since when does government know about quality?
Page 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, government will transfer money from other government Trust Funds. More Taxes.
Page 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes and functional status of patients.
Page 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to profile you including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc.
Page 628 Sec 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.
Page 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those multi-stake holder groups include unions and groups like ACORN deciding health care quality.
Page 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of health care services as they see fit.
Page 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services and Dialysis Services.
Page 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Government wants to shine sunlight on doctor but not government.
Page 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections – Looks okay.
Page 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.
Page 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.
Page 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. Do they mean like the government with an $18 million website?
Pages 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of health care plan isn’t in Government Health Care Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.
Page 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints (ACORN) on health care provider or supplier, government can do background check.
Page 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny health care providers/ suppliers admittance into Health Care Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.
Page 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.
Page 722 Sec 1639 Government MANDATES doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.
Page 724 23-25 PAGE 725 1-5 The same government certifications will apply to Medicaid and CHIP (your kids).
Page 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other health care service.
Page 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement, proposes the Secretary-HHS will give Attorney General access to ALL data.
Page 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (That’s your tax dollars people).
Page 757-762 Federal Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)
Page 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin.
Page 765 Sec 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)
Page 768 Sec 1713 Government – Nurse Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks).
Page 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Services include economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness.
Page 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services – “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies. ” Government ABORTIONS anyone?
Page 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion and State Sovereignty.
Page 789-797 Government will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought to market. Bye innovation.
Pages 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control doctors’ educations.
Page 801 Sec 1751 The government will decide which health care conditions will be paid. Can you say RATION!
Page 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. req. to register. Government takes over private payment system.
Page 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.
Page 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.
Page 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self-insured to pay for Trust Fund!
Page 835 11-13 fees imposed by government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.
Page 838-840 Government will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families expecting kids.
Page 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes government coming into your house and telling you how to parent!!!
Page 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000, 000. Yes that’s billion.
Page 865 The government will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.
Page 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where doctors perform mandatory health care for two years for part loan repayment.
Page 876-892 The government takes over the education of our medical students and doctors.
Page 898 The government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure supply of public health prof.
Page 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.
Page 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of officers of Regular and Reserve Corps of Service.
Page 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.
Page 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular and Reserve Officers. HC Draft?
Page 910 The government will develop, build, and run Public Health Training Centers.
Page 913-914 Government starts a health care affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.
Page 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDDATES Cultural and linguistic competency training for health care professionals.
Page 932 The Government will establish Preventative and Wellness Trust fund- initial cost of $30,800,000, 000 billion.
Page 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. That means controlling YOU!!
Page 936 Government will develop “Healthy People and National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?
Page 942 Lines 22-25 More government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Svc, Minority Health, Women’s Health
Page 950- 980 BIG GOVERNMENT core pub health infrastructure including workforce capacity, lab systems, health info sys, etc.
Page 993 Government will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won’t have a chance.
Page 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say government brainwash!
Page 1001 The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?
you want the Gov to be able to get into your Bank account? and why do they want to? Do you know what bill you will be under? None of us do and none of us kow what has been added. Read this and think. please

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ddg. If the staged disruptions would stop long enough, the people who know what the h____ they are talking about could be heard and could address these issues. But the plants, and many of them are just that, have no intention of allowing a civil, in-depth discourse to happen because insurance companies want that of all things to happen the least.

My congress man eluded to the fact that some businesses may be forced out of their current insurance thus switching to a public option. —————— If that happens will Charlie Gibson will say I’m sorry?

No mention of tort reform to control malpractice suits and the burden they impose on MDs in malpractice insurance and as cause of excessive testing and treating.

One of the dilemmas of our current system of employer-based health insurance: The breadwinner of the family pays half the costs of his employer-provided health insurance and it covers the whole family. If any member of the family gets ill, as long as the breadwinner is still working, life goes on. If the breadwinner loses his job – the whole family loses their insurance. Or they can pay COBRA at TWICE the price they were paying through their employer ( remember – no money coming in now either). Or if the breadwinner is the family member who gets sick and can’t work, how long does the employer continue to pay the insurance cost? THey lose their insurance and their house eventually, and with a pre-existing condition he can’t even get coverage again on his own. I saw a documentary about health care and one case involved a working man who was in danger of losing his foot. The doctor said he could save the foot if the man stayed off his feet for three months. The dilemma: if he stays off work for three months he loses his insurance. The man actually chose to have his foot amputated instead, so that he could return to work sooner with a prosthetic foot and keep his job and insurance. Employer-based care has lots of drawbacks – some noted above. Also, it is a disincentive to job creation because every position created is very expensive ( hence, so many part-time jobs with no benefits these days – and I would do the same thing as an employer). We need sensible reform, not NO reform. Right nhow all I hear from the right is “no reform”….can’t we have rational discussion and make big improvements in the USA or are we going to throw all reform away because we’re afraid an illegal, or a lazy-butt is going to get something for nothing? Can we please hear better proposals instead of just damning the present one? Offering a better proposal is the right way – shouting down opponents is shameful and counter-productive. I have checked the HR 3200 sections that are purported to create death panels, fund abortions, let the government have access to your bank account, kill all private plans, etc..and these outrageous things just aren’t there. If this plan is so terribly flawed, why do some people have to make up lies to criticize it? My Republicans are looking like people who belive in flying saucers and think Elvis is still alive. I’m embarrassed by these antics.

Sometimes I fear that, in order to feel good about their own situation, some must have to know that there are clearly people who are much worse off than they are. How can those people think we can have a Nation if we don’t extend at least the true fundamental necessities to all in the Family? What a pathetic condition this Nation is in . . .