Record Breaking Granny: 1,400 Relatives
ABC's Simon McGregor-Wood reports from Jerusalem:
Rachel Krishevsky was 19 when she married her cousin Yitzik from within the ultra orthodox Haredi community in Jerusalem. The young couple then set about following the Jewish commandment to be “fruitful and multiply.” And they certainly succeeded.
By the time she passed away last Saturday in Jerusalem aged 99, Rachel had according to her family, no less than 1,400 children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and even great-great-grandchildren. She and her husband had seven boys and four daughters. Among the ultra orthodox jewish community large families are seen as a blessing. Each of their 11 children followed in Rachel’s footsteps, resulting in 150 grandchildren. In turn these descendants had 1,000 children of their own and in the last few years several hundred great-great-grandchildren started to appear.
According to one unnamed grandchild Wednesday, “grandma knew all of her descendants by name.”
Despite such a fruitful life members of Rachel’s huge family said they felt great sadness at her passing.
“Grandma was a God-fearing woman her whole life, and her door was always open to the homeless and poor near the market. We are sad about her death, but proud of what she achieved in her life,” said another grandchild.
Mrs Krishevsky lived near the Mahane Yehuda market in West Jerusalem and was a well known local figure. The area is a center for the strictly orthodox sects of Judaism, most of which follow the tradition of having large families. In recent years the demographic mix of the city’s population has been changing as a result.
According to the Israeli daily paper Yedioth Aharanot, Rachel Krishevsky’s achievement although remarkable was not record breaking.
The paper claims at least two local people are known to have great-great-great-great-grandchildren. And one senior rabbi Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, recently celebrated the birth of his great-great-great-grandchild’s first child.
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Precisely why we have over population of the human species, and are rapidly destroying the planet.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 22, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Yeah, so true Rick, how dare people bring children into the world and raise families! Instead, they could be spending their time and money buying Carbon Offsets from Algore…
Posted by: Pkpost | September 22, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am
its not so black and white, pkpost. no one is saying not to have a family. but having 14 children who’s children have 14 children and so on is excessive. resources ARE limited.
Posted by: dog | September 22, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Rick, no one is rapidly destroying the planet. God won’t let it happen.
Posted by: texastig | September 22, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
dog, this might not be politically-correct to say, but if you’re so worried about limited resources, why aren’t you yelling about sub-saharan Africans who have 7+ kids? They have far more limited resources than people living in developed parts of the world, like Israel. You don’t seriously expect me, living in wealthy North America, do give up having more children so that I leave “room and resources” for someone in Somalia, do you? Pft…
And plus, how selfish to bring children into the world when you live in a country full of disease and starvation. Those Africans should all be neuteured and should let childbearing to those of us who can offer a more human existence to our children. Right? Right? Does that sound about right, people?
Posted by: westbgal | September 22, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Before anyone needs to talk about over-population of the planet, I challenge anyone to make the case that we would ever run out of resources. You just can’t say, ‘do the math’… that’s lame. There are so many variables to our existence and is way more complex than predicting what the stock market might do on a given day.
I thought recycling/reclaiming coupled with best practices for our existence might have a go at it. Gee, I guess God must have made a mistake when He designed the planet. Surely He would have seen this one coming.
Posted by: Grandmondo | September 22, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am
So how many of these 1400 people are on public assistance?
Posted by: Digital Bob | September 22, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
they do conserve water! ever come near one of those hassidim?? pheew!
Posted by: Pope Piusz | September 22, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I would like to say the world is NOT over populated. As a matter of Fact every human in the world (6 billion) would fit into the state of Texas and have 15 square feet of space each! That leaves the rest of the entire world to raise crops for food and explore for natural resources. I say God bless the big families!!
Posted by: Runningace | September 22, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
I love how people want to say that believe in God is childish, but don’t stop to think that believing in things magically appearing in all the right places is a viable solution. They are the same people that if they came up to an abandoned campsite would say “gee, I guess all those piece of wood came together magically and started to burn on their own, and that the rocks around them formed around them over millions of years.”
I love people who don’t believe in God. Someday, they’ll grow up and believe in something greater than their selfish selves.
Posted by: David | September 22, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
I love how people want to say that believe in God is childish, but don’t stop to think that believing in things magically appearing in all the right places is a viable solution. They are the same people that if they came up to an abandoned campsite would say “gee, I guess all those piece of wood came together magically and started to burn on their own, and that the rocks around them formed around them over millions of years.”
I love people who don’t believe in God. Someday, they’ll grow up and believe in something greater than their selfish selves.
Posted by: David | September 22, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
and to think that England wants to have older people volunteer to die early….
Posted by: l | September 22, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
“The young couple then set about following the Jewish commandment to be “fruitful and multiply.” And they certainly succeeded.”
Hrm, I always thought the commandments, especially this commandment, was for human beings, not just the Jewish people. But then again, I don’t work for ABC so what do I know?
Posted by: Nick W. | September 22, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am
this is disgusting. This family should move to china for a couple of generations to pay for their social crimes. its religious freaks like these folks that has put us into the population situation we are in worldwide. my main question is why would you want to have 11 kids? there is NO way that all your kids were loved equally. oh and congrats on remembering all the people in your family names. what an achievement.
Posted by: Ferhat | September 22, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Let’s put this into perspective.
This woman and her husband had whole families wiped out in the Holocaust. They were merely replacing what was stolen from them. I, myself, can count over 400 family members, great-aunts & uncles, cousins, lost.
Posted by: JimmyDaGeek | September 22, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Here’s a thought..The planet was put here for you by God…Not the other way around…Big families are a blessing. These people who disagree should try a big family and they would be much happier. Instead they would rather complain about life and resources. Plus, how do you know that one of these children are not going to create something beneficial (cure for cancer, etc.) I think Rick would change his mind then.
Posted by: mjones | September 22, 2009, 11:27 am 11:27 am
@Ferhat
Did you know if you stacked everyone in the world side by side, they wouldn’t fill up the state of Florida? That’s a fact.
You’ve been duped, buddy. You’re apart of the evolutionist religion.
Posted by: TWBonUTube | September 22, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
6 million down, now 1400 back up. Who is saying this woman is wrong?
Posted by: anti-hitler | September 22, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
For all the environmental-whackos that say we are destroying the Earth with overpopulation; go green, save a tree and mother Earth…rid the planet of your carbon foot print.
Posted by: BamBam | September 22, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
I would just like to point out that “Runningace’s” math was off a little bit. When this person said “…every human in the world… would fit into the state of Texas and have 15 square feet of space each!” this was in accurate! Actually, if you put everybody in the world into Texas they would each have 1,145 square feet each! That’s much more impressive then 15! Let take this up a notch. If you but everybody into Rhode Island they would have 7 square feet each which sounds small but if that whole tiny state were built up like Manhattan then it would easily hold them all! Over population is a complete myth! Busted!!!
Posted by: Nathan | September 22, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am
You can fit the entire world’s population in Texas. So grow up and think for yourselves. This is the same crap they were SCREAMING about in the ’70′s except then we were all going to freeze to death and swine flu would kill us all. SAME OLD FEAR/CONTROL METHODS! Just a new decade… Live bravely and freely!!!
Posted by: Bryon | September 22, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Absolutely beautiful…God Bless
Posted by: NYC_Chic | September 22, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
The way they are spelling her last name, did they really get that from data on her, or is it actually Kryzewski?
Posted by: Jeff | September 22, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Why are people attacking the lady? She made a choice to have 11 kids and her kids followed in her and her husband’s footsteps. That many kids in any many societies is not unheard of.
As for resources every species has a carrying capacity (along with many other factors) and when they reach that that carrying capacity is reached the population stabilizes (barring other factors). Human carrying capacity can not be really calculated as humans are able to increase their carrying capacity through the use of technology.
Posted by: Kevin | September 22, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Why do we view humans merely as consumers of resources instead of valuable, contributing members of society? If they raised these kids well, they have done us all a great service.
Posted by: daHawaiian | September 22, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
For those of you whose first, knee-jerk reaction is “overpopulation”, the trend is increasingly to have few, one, or no children. Especially in the rich countries that use up the most resources, there is a high percentage of individuals who don’t want any children. This is why the invite immigrants from countries who have lots of children. So it is the wealthiest nations who are doing their part to cut down on population growth, and poor countries which are having most of the kids.
This instance is an exception. Indeed, when Rachel had her kids, Israel was a poor country.
It could be that within the next 100 years, even without any catastrophic event, we may start to see an actual decrease in world population.
Posted by: Mr Happy Man | September 22, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Knowing all 1400 names. Wonderful! I have a husband and a son … and sometimes I mix their names up. Thankfully, we don’t have pets to add to the mix, or else I’d be in real trouble! ;)
For those who read the article and only saw the ‘numbers,’ how about I ‘donate’ the 1.5 kids that I’m not using to her? And … I’ll throw in the 1.5 that my Mom didn’t use. Does that ‘legitimize’ 3 of her brood? Get a grip people. A family … a COMMUNITY is grieving the loss of a loved one.
Shalom.
Posted by: ida | September 22, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Nice to see that Malthusians are alive and well in the 21st Century.
The fact is, we are continually developing more and better ways to feed the world. We have barely tapped the planet’s resources, and are findng that some crtical ones (such as petroleum reserves) may in fact be renewing themselves.
Rather than condemning, I think we should celebrate the life of a woman who apparently wanted to simply follow God’s word as she understood it.
A final note on her marrying her cousin — such marriages were common in the West until recently, and remain common in many parts of the world today. Try not to impose your parochial views on others, eh?
Posted by: MrSpkr | September 22, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
That is great! Congrats to that family!
Posted by: Omeca | September 22, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
God bless this woman. I hope that she is safe in heaven.
And all you overpopulation grouches, do the rest of us a favor and just turn off your computer for the week. With the birthrate of many countries at less than 2.0, we are barely replacing ourselves, let alone increasing! And anyone notice Alaska? Plenty of room left on our planet!
Seriously, Italy is aging badly, the birth rate in most European countries is 1.something, and people are still talking about a population problem.
Come on!
Posted by: Adeone | September 22, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Before you let the commie overpopulation police take away more of your rights.
Why not start complaining about all those dogs and cats, eating hundreds of millions of tons of food.
Why is it always humans that must be aborted?
Try mandating the reduction of the pet population first…see how far you get.
Posted by: Simon | September 22, 2009, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Now that’s what I call Social Security!
Posted by: Sophie | September 22, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Those of you who think that the world is overpopulated, usually are referring to everyone but yourselves.
Since you have already been born by “Divine Decree” you think everyone else is just taking up “your” space. How blind, selfish, narrow minded, utilitarian, evil, and wrong of you!
If you think the world is overpopulated, then why don’t “you” practice what you preach and be the first to lead the way and lower the population count by at least “one”?! That’s EXACTLY what you’re demanding others to do.
Rather, I say, save, plan, and produce, the greatest natural resource we have–Human Beings!
You’re welcome!
Posted by: Blessed2bBorn! | September 22, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
I would just like to point out that “Runningace’s” math was off a little bit. When this person said “…every human in the world… would fit into the state of Texas and have 15 square feet of space each!” this was in accurate! Actually, if you put everybody in the world into Texas they would each have 1,145 square feet each! That’s much more impressive then 15! Let take this up a notch. If you but everybody into Rhode Island they would have 7 square feet each which sounds small but if that whole tiny state were built up like Manhattan then it would easily hold them all! Over population is a complete myth! Busted!!!
Posted by: Busted | September 22, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Good for grandma! What a gal.
Posted by: margaret | September 22, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Resources are not limited! If government gets out of the way, farms would flurish, we have enough new discovered oil to last hundreds of years. Global warming and over population are a ploy by the far left to control your life, how many children you can have, what you eat, how much power you can draw, where you live, you name it they want to control it. There is a revolution coming your leftest! And its coming for you!
Posted by: KenoCO | September 22, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
The people claiming that the entire population can fit into Texas are terrifyingly ignorant. Sure, it’s all well and good if people don’t do anything besides stand there in their little bit of land, but first of all most people take up a lot more space than 15 square feet. (and HELLO all of the land that’s inhabitable by most humans?) If the entire world lived like the average American, it would take the area of 5.3 planet Earths to provide all of the necessary resources. We move around, eat, build houses and families and all sorts of other things. Food is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of land use. Land had to be used to mine for the metals in your computer, to provide gas for cars, coal for electricity etc. Land was take up to supply and build all of the Walmarts, parking structures, and strip clubs of the world. Population’s impact on the environment has SO much more to do with affluence and the resources used than simply the number of people alive.
So kindly stop bashing the little old lady and try to educate yourselves a little bit about some of the current issues of the environment. Believing in God or not shouldn’t have anything to do with how you treat the planet.
Posted by: Erica | September 22, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Thank God that there are still ppl out there who believe that having a big family is truly a blessing of God. The ppl on here yelling about how wrong they think this is should be busy yelling about some unemployed woman in California being artificially impregnanted with 8 kids. I mean this woman is Jewish…that means 1400 bankers, lawyers, Doctors, Actors. How could this be wrong?
Posted by: um... | September 22, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Overpopulation is nothing more than fear mongering by the dog and pony show of politics. If we cut our per capita consumption down to 2000 calories per person per day the United States could feed a population of nearly 750 million.
Posted by: JB | September 22, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Well said UM!
Posted by: 1MANA55 | September 22, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
This is a disgusting story. It’s people like this family that are virus’ upon the earth.
Posted by: Tony | September 22, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
1. The overall world-wide Jewish population is actually in decline. Only among the orthodox is the population increasing. There is too much intermarriage with the surrounding peoples (mostly in America).
2. Successful culture and beliefs will grow. A culture in decline will lose population. So… will people with your beliefs and culture become an ever-decreasing minority? Will you be like the French who are in danger of losing their country to the Muslim minority that is out-breeding them?
Posted by: Ken | September 22, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
If the world couldn’t support 6 billion people there wouldn’t be 6 billion people. Every generation has claimed the world is overpopulated. Until the population actually stops growing, it’s simply not true.
Posted by: Matt B. | September 22, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
That’s that calculation include us fat people? I may need a little more space. LOL
Posted by: Larry | September 22, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Enough already!
Posted by: Paul | September 22, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Ten to the 5th power or generation is one billion! May your tribe increase?
Posted by: Paul | September 22, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
@Erica
God says to multiply. Yes, humans need more than 15 feet of room. But it shows how dumb this “we need to quit breeding” crap is. If we were truly over-populated, no one would eat, and no one would be able to go camping because humans would just be enhabiting the areas. It’s a stupid, false illusion.
Go look at satallite images of earth. How much occupied to unoccupied earth do you see? There’s MILES of land that is unoccupied. Just a thought..
Posted by: Nick W. | September 22, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Never mind the snarks and cynics here…I think it’s a wonderful story. So rare to hear of truly happy and FUNCTIONAL families these day. RIP Rachel Krishevsky. Her life sounds like a life well lived and filled with love. The rest of us should be so lucky.
Posted by: Sabrina | September 22, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Funny how the hypocrites who whine about overpopulation never volunteer to remove THEMSELVES from the planet.
Posted by: Heywood Jashuddup | September 22, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
I would love it if all of the idiots who think world doesn’t have a resource crisis brewing b/c would move to Texas and stay there; never leaving again!
Posted by: drew | September 22, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
This is in responce to the person who wrote that we could fit everyone into texas… 15 square feet is less than 4′ x 4′. How hot do you think that would be? There are too many people.
Posted by: Nathan McDowell | September 22, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
What did she accomplish other than gratification?
Posted by: randak | September 22, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
You have to count for more than body space when addressing over population. How about all the additional resources required for their life support….entertainment, food, shelter, and clothing.
Posted by: randak | September 22, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
We sure don’t need or want them here.
Posted by: Jack Kinch(1uncle) | September 22, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
I have eight daughters and three sons and my children do frequently say, “Just think, Mom, you could have a hundred grandchildren!”
The gloom and doomers have nothing on their side but an abundance of pessimism. They’re welcome to it.
Posted by: mommy211 | September 22, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I bet there isn’t even more then 15 million Jews in the whole world.
Overpopulation is big problem but that message needs to be heard in a place like India not Israel.
Posted by: Tom | September 22, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I say God Bless the real families. To the people that can’t afford to feed themselves and have 8 kids hoping one of them will become a big football star… Who am I to judge though.
Posted by: Rizz | September 22, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
The world’s problems will NOT be solved by fewer people, but will be solved by MORE human brains working to solve problems.
The human brain is the most complex known structure in the universe with 100 billion neurons. Why not put 6 billion brains to work to solve world problems?
The more the merrier, and smarter.
Posted by: BellaMia | September 22, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
NOW I WILL TELL YOU THE BACKGROUND STORY WHICH IS SO WELL KNOWN IN ISRAEL THAT I TEND TO BELIEVE THE ABC REPORTER LIKE MOST LEFT LEANING REPORTERS WILL NEVER MENTION ANYTHING THAT BRINGS UP THE HOLOCAUST.
NEXT TO MAHANE YEHUDA MARKET SPREADS NOW INTO A VALLEY, FRANKLY I CALL THE VALLEY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. IT FALLS INTO AN AREA THAT IS CALLED MIR SHARIM, WHICH IN HEBREW MEANS THE RIGHTEOUS GATES. AND IT TRULY IS, I KNOW PERSONALLY I LIVED THERE, IT IS MADE UP ALMOST ENTIRELY OF ASKANSNZI JEWS WHICH ARE EUROPEAN JEWS, AND THEY CAME FROM LITERALLY THOUSAND GENERATIONS OF PRACTICING TORAH JEWS WHO THE NAZIS HATED FIRST AND NOW I AM SO SAD TO SAY THE SECULAR JEWS HATE FIRST AS WELL. ALL THESE JEWS IF THEY MADE IT OUT OF THE REACH OF THE NAZIS GAS CHAMBERS, THEY DON’T HAVE ONE LIVING RELATIVE. AND WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE FIRST HAND THE BRUTE TRYING TO WIPE YOU FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY KILLING EVERY RELATIVE YOU HAVE AND EVERY PERSON YOU KNOW. IT BECOMES THE MAIN FOCUS OF YOUR LIFE, WHEN YOU HAVE NO GUNS, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE SOPHISTICATION TO COMBAT THIS HORRIFIC CRUELTY THAT YOU HAVE WITNESSED AND SUFFERED DOWN TO THE DEPTHS OF YOUR SOUL. SO THE ONLY HONEST TORAH WAY YOU CAN OVERCOME THIS VAMPIRE DEVIANCE IS TO HAVE AS MANY BEAUTIFUL JEWISH CHILDREN RAISED IN TRUE TORAH RELIGIOUS TRADITION WHERE HOME AND FAMILY AND LOVE IS THE WALLS OF ALL YOUR REALITY. AND SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.
TO BRING IT IN AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE, IN ISRAEL OR IN AMERICA WHEN I MENTION I LIVED IN MER SHARIM, I AM HIT WITH A GASP, LIKE I HAD SAID A CURSE WORD. AND WHAT DOES THAT SHOW YOU. THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE SOCIALIST SECULARIST IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY BOTH IN ISRAEL AND AMERICA HAS TURNED THE LOVE AND FEAR OF G-D OF HUMBLE AND PIOUS PEOPLE INTO SOME KIND OF PITIFUL ALIENS. AND THAT IS ALSO EXACTLY WHAT SECULAR SOCIALISTS ARE TRYING TO DO WITH EVERY RELIGIOUS CHRISTIAN IN AMERICA. FACT.
Posted by: Ahuva | September 22, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Rick McDaniel, you have 1/4 of the facts and 100% of the mouth
Posted by: SeeTheLight | September 22, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Runningace and Nathan, My kids love to use this logic in discussions. Often, they get the response, “But I don’t want to move to Texas!” =8-O
I’ll suggest that my kids work the math for Rhode Island too, so they can add that to their list of logical answers!
Well done, y’all!
Posted by: TN Lizzie | September 22, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Kudos to this family. Osama bin Laden has 89 siblings – his father has over a dozen wives. Islam allows a man to have up to 4 wives at a time. God’s plan was for one man and one woman to be fruitful and multiply. Rachel was only following the plan laid out for her by her Creator. Prophet Muhammad changed all that so now there is an abundant of Muslim would-be terrorists being trained in madrassas all over the world including the US and UK. There are more important things to be thinking about than this grandma’s fruitful genes – leave her alone.
Posted by: naomi | September 22, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
In a world that’s running out of pretty much everything, this is an obscenity.
Posted by: Urbanspaceman | September 22, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
I love to see you all doing math so well. Now I personally feel so much better about not being overcrowded. I think larger families are wonderful. I am an only child, which is horrid, and it was not intentional. So, I had 3 children and now have 8 grandchildren just think how much fun it would be to have a family party in that family of 1,400. God does provide and always will.
Posted by: Sharon | September 22, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Right on Nathan.
Posted by: Ben Linus | September 22, 2009, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
God bless her soul and her whole family. This is a beautiful story.
Posted by: Teresa | September 22, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I’d rather see one adult man and one adult woman love each other and have many children that contribute to the planet than a cult of one man with 50 plus sister wives and more children with his last name than he can afford and thus puts illegally on welfare.
I would say G-d bless you, Mrs. Krishevsky, but it seems He already has with such a wonderful family, and they with you as its matriarch during your time on earth.
Posted by: Katherine | September 22, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
population control is at the crux of the democratic/liberal agenda. They fake it into the global warming scare and everything else.
If you don’t think exactly like they do, then you are evil.
Dem
Posted by: eldon | September 22, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I just don’t get how you can see it as a blessing from god
why do people just throw god into everything
God this god that
if you believe you believe but saying that having 11 children is a blessing from god is pointless
Posted by: Lt | September 22, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
COUSINS, hello !!!
Posted by: CAROLE | September 22, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
These people have it all wrong.
To be fruitful and multiply means to: work hard and be productive, and LEARN YOUR TIMES TABLES so you can use quantitative reasoning – something lacking in this family!
Posted by: Flannigan | September 22, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Calculation:
Texas has 261,914 square miles of land.
The world has 6,255,121,726 people.
If everyone in the world moved to Texas, the density would be 23,882 people per square mile.
Brooklyn New York has a population density of 35,219 people per square mile.
So,is that enough truth for you? MR.ERLICH!Screw Earth day 1970.
Next we take on the rape known as global warming-remember we have the right to use deadly force as a defense against economic enslavement.
Posted by: Htos1 | September 22, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Carole:
There are many states in the U.S. in which it is still legal to marry your first cousin. Until recently, it was a fairly common phenomenon in the United States–many of us have cousins, even first cousins, in our family trees. Just because it has become a taboo in the United States and Europe does not make it a taboo in the rest of the world. Please keep your judgments to yourself.
Posted by: Patty | September 22, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
The headline said 1400 RELATIVES. She has millions of relatives. They should have said 1400 DECENDANTS
Posted by: CarlNB | September 22, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
@Rick
Oh, please. It’s so stupid to say the earth is over-populated. Over-population is a MYTH.
According to the U.N. Population Database, the world’s population in 2010 will be 6,908,688,000. The landmass of Texas is 268,820 sq mi (7,494,271,488,000 sq ft).
So, divide 7,494,271,488,000 sq ft by 6,908,688,000 people, and you get 1084.76 sq ft/person. That’s approximately a 33′ x 33′ plot of land for every person on the planet, enough space for a town house.
Given an average four person family, every family would have a 66′ x 66′ plot of land, which would comfortably provide a single family home and yard — and all of them fit on a landmass the size of Texas. Admittedly, it’d basically be one massive subdivision, but Texas is a tiny portion of the inhabitable Earth.
Such an arrangement would leave the entire rest of the world vacant. There’s plenty of space for humanity.
Posted by: Heidi | September 22, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Those two people who had great, great, great, great grandchildren would have to have a tradition of getting pregnant at 14 and living to 105!
Posted by: Brian | September 22, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
If one travels away from the cities and built up areas, there are all kinds of room and resouces. Canada and Siberia are vast land masses, thinly populated, due to climate. Wraming climate will open these areas up for development.
For many, many millenia the earth has been a balanced self-sustaining system. If humans overpopulated the earths resources, doesn’t follow that they would die off until equilibrium was restored? Who is to say that in a misguided effort to save the planet, humanity might destroy itself?
Posted by: Sibbitt | September 22, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Yeah, but you’re ignoring how many acres of farm land it takes for growing/raising food, and all the other land and resources it takes to support us (especially in developed nations), the land/resources taken up to support us with jobs, bureaucracy, services, schools, etc. Also, only a small fraction of dry land is arable or has mineral resources. Fresh water is limited, and transporting it to where it’s needed costs money, energy, and other resources.
I have to side with the Marxists on the over-population concerns. The carrying capacity of any planet is limited. Unless there’s some cool Star Trek food synthesizer in the near future, we’re looking at more competition for resources, higher prices, more wars, famine, etc.
Posted by: RR GOP | September 22, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
May she rest in peace….and may the joy she brought to her family live on through each of them!! She sounds like she was a real blessing to each of them.
Posted by: Chukkal | September 22, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Hey, I live in TX. Whatever the math you come up with, it sounds like a long wait for the bathroom.
Oh, and my condolences to Rachael’s family.
Posted by: Naan | September 23, 2009, 12:09 am 12:09 am
oh vey
Posted by: Andrew | September 23, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
We are commanded in the Bible to be fruitful and multiply, it’s part of God’s plan.
Posted by: Pierce | September 23, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
The lack of intelligence in these comments is disturbing.
Posted by: mystere | September 23, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Why is this turning into a debate about god? Believe in what you want to believe in and KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!! If these people can afford to support their oversized families by themselves without assistance, then let them. As soon as the hand comes out for money, cut it off.
Posted by: Jamie | September 23, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am
@Paul
The worries with overpopulation isn’t what’s happening right now, but what’s going to happen eventually, since pop. growth happens exponentially. we’re getting by for 6 billion people, but will we have enough in 2040 when it’s projected to reach 9 million? that’s only about a generation or so away.
We don’t need to quit breeding, (unless you are china, we can’t stop it even if we tried, so why bother?) we should just be thinking about our greatgreatgrandkids and the world they are going to inherit. We need to manage growth well and keep it from sprawling and degrading too much more of nature. There’s so much more to protecting nature than being a dirty treehugger. If God gave us this planet to manage, shouldn’t we do it well? Having a healthy environment is just better for mankind, and you can’t have a healthy environment if it’s all being used for agriculture or being inhabited by humans.
I still am not understanding why people are choosing to reject scientific concepts because of faith. they ARE NOT mutually exclusive.
Posted by: Erica | September 23, 2009, 1:52 am 1:52 am
Overpopulation is a myth! The world’s population will never boom so much as during the last era because nutrition and medicine nearly doubled the average person’s lifespan. It will now creep up gradually due to medicine and nutrition, but people won’t suddenly start doubling their lifespans again. Overpopulation is a myth and in many places people are contracepting themselves and their culture out of existence. Not everyone would have a family as big as this granny’s (many people do prefer smaller families) but what a wonderful legacy to leave behind.
Posted by: rosarose45 | September 23, 2009, 3:55 am 3:55 am
If 6 million of us can be ruthlessly murdered while the world watches silently, I think that the world can be silent and admire a woman who chose to bring 1,400 of us into the world.
Posted by: EH | September 23, 2009, 4:11 am 4:11 am
I agree with a previous post. I’d rather literate, productive people reproduced by the droves rather than illiterate, consuming, dependant people, of which there seems to be no shortage on the earth.
Posted by: BB | September 23, 2009, 4:52 am 4:52 am
Hey, leave Texas out of this!
Posted by: TruTexan | September 23, 2009, 6:01 am 6:01 am
You do notice that stacked horizontally and vertically, all of the people in the world would fit in 1 cubic mile, with some shaking room… we aren’t overpopulated. as to the late grandmother of over 1400 people, I say cheers.
Posted by: Yelphin | September 23, 2009, 6:32 am 6:32 am
Some of you guys need to calm down.
This woman died at 99 and probably had the last of her children by the end of WWII.
The thing that is principally unique is that the family is so close knit that that they know each other. All of you probably had the same number of children in your ancestors families if you went back to 1909, but you have moved countries and lost track of each other.
Posted by: BertieW | September 23, 2009, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Some of you haven’t mentioned the other end of the spectrum. There are those of us who are not even able to have children though we’ve greatly desired them. I would think those able to have children are a balance for those of us who can not! God’s richest blessing on this entire family and those able to have them!
Posted by: Teresa | September 23, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
What a beautiful story. Children are a blessing.
Posted by: E Go | September 23, 2009, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Erica:
There is a policy in China that those living in cities are limited to one child, those living in urban areas are limited to two, and those belonging to certain ethnic groups are allowed three. It has lead to abortions and baby girls left to die or in orphanages as these parents attempt to have a boy to carry on the family name and take care of the parents in their old age. Say what you will about overpopulation, but the Chinese actually have very strict rules involving their citizens and reproduction.
Posted by: April | September 23, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Sorry, typo, I meant to say ‘rural areas’ as opposed to ‘urban areas.’
Posted by: Patty | September 23, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Ok who are we to say that she was wrong for having that many children? We have no place to judge others. 1st off back in the day there was no birth control and 2nd off the birth control we have today isn’t 100% effective. my sister is a good example of that. Why can’t we just be happy for her that her children and grandchildren and great grandchildren are healthy and that God has blessed their family? We need to stop thinking of “Me” and starting thinking about God and His will.
Posted by: Katelyn | September 23, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I am so shocked to hear all of these comments you people are making about this BLESSED WOMAN! God has truly Blessed her and her family..she should be PRAISED Not put down for having a large family….Are all of these comments from CHRISTIANS…if so you better get down on your knees tonight and ask for forgiveness! yeah do it now don’t wait for tonight! God Bless Rachel and her Family!
Posted by: Nancy from Salinas, ca | September 23, 2009, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
I think this is a beautiful story. I come from a pretty large family though nothing like this account, and whatever you have to say against it, I just know my experience that my big family is a joy filled place.
“Grandma was a God-fearing woman her whole life, and her door was always open to the homeless and poor near the market. We are sad about her death, but proud of what she achieved in her life,”-I think that just says it all.
Posted by: Beth | September 24, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Dog, resources are limited IF you’re dependent on humans to provide for you. But when your Father is the Creator God, there is no limit to His provision. “Limited resources” is a lie to advance the plans of power-grabbers.
“Christianity has not been tried and been found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.” G.K. Chesterson
Hope to see you in eternity!
Posted by: fortruth | September 25, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
For all the environmental-whackos that say we are destroying the Earth with overpopulation; go green, save a tree and mother Earth…rid the planet of your carbon foot print.
Posted by: WPclassifieds.net | October 10, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
The funny thing is a Haredi family of 14 still uses less water than a American family of 3 and a couple of dogs.
On that point, most Haredi families do not have a car and those who do, do not have more than one. Why? They live in neighborhoods that don’t require you to have a car, let alone two.
Posted by: Shimon | February 27, 2010, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm