Medal of Honor Winner Told ‘Take Down That Flagpole’
Col. Van T. Barfoot is a 90 year old veteran of Korea and Vietnam. He has been recognized with the Medal of Honor. Every morning, at his home in Henrico County, Virginia, he reportedly raises the American flag up the pole he installed on his front lawn. Every evening he brings it down. But Barfoot is being told – by 5 pm today – he must take the flag pole down.
Apparently flag poles are against the rules of his Sussex Square Homeowners Association. Barfoot has received a letter ordering him to bring down the pole or face legal action.
The standoff is getting a lot of attention. Politicians are coming to Barfoot’s defense.
Stay tuned.
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I support Mr. Barfoot and I feel he should maintain his tradition. It will be nice to here the names and see the faces of the people who want to do this terrible thing to a Medal of Honor winner. Let us see their children and what their children are learning in school about those who fought and died so they could learn in school. List all the names of the people who want the flag and pole removed.
Posted by: James L. | December 4, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am
What an insult to our country and one of its heros. What is wrong with these people? Are they anti-veteran or just anti-American? Who do they think fought and died to give them the freedom to have a flag flying? If the court allows this it should hang its head in shame!
Posted by: Larry | December 4, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am
My dad also served in Korea and Vietnam. He placed a flagpole in his front yard years ago and the flag goes up and down every day. Even after his passing in 2003, this tradition is still carried on by my mom. They have been honored in their local paper several times. We are with you Mr. Barfoot!
Posted by: Bob S. | December 4, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
These people from the homeowners association must be stoned. They should have to take a pee test immediately. How dare they try to pull this junk. They should be ashamed.
Posted by: Ray | December 4, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
We (They, the Homeowners Asst.)are being just a little too PC. Of course that’s where our “Diverse” socity has brought us by be too inclusive. If you think about the word “Diverse”, itcomes too close to the word “Devision” and that is what it accomplishes.
Posted by: Gunrunner | December 4, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am
There needs to be a moratorium on HOA’s nationwide.
The developers have turned the HOA into a Gestapo-like organization, and we need to see a ban or at least some major restrictions on the formation of these kinds of groups.
Not only are they fascist in nature, but the costs of supporting them are outrageous!
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | December 4, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am
It is the veteran who gave those loonies in the homeowner’s association the freedom to show their ignorance.
Maybe the Patriot Guard should ride in on their harleys and speak to the association!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | December 4, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
If this was an islamic symbol – nothing would be said.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | December 4, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am
I’m thinking Col. Van T. Barfoot should take down the flagpole.
Then he should shove it up each member of the Homeowners Association’s arse.
Then he should clean it well with some strong bleach.
At which point Col. Van T. Barfoot should put the pole back up and raise his flag.
Posted by: Noz | December 4, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I bet the Sussex Square Homeowners Association will regret this decision.
It doesn’t look good for them.
We’re with you, Col. Barfoot.
Posted by: ddg | December 4, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
I am a retired Army Veteran and hope that the people who want to remove the pole are identified to see there motive behind the request. The HOA should change the rule to pay for placement of every pole in every yard and fine those who do not have a flag. If this honorable Medal of Honor Winner is forced to remove the pole he should attach it to this home and fly it twice as high!
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Posted by: Joe | December 4, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
All Americans that love thier freedom should rally around this great American.
All retired and anyone that has served this country in uniform should cry out loud at out pitiful legislaters and force them to support our flag and any and all symbols of freedom, including the Ten Commandments.
Posted by: Phil Redden | December 4, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I, too, am retired military.
While I must condemn the action of the HOA, the fact of the matter is that the HOA agreement is part of the deed which Col. Barfoot bought when he purchased his house. That restrictive covenant is actually enforceable by law. The HOA could easily obtain an injunction within a day or two.
What should happen is the HOA should pass around a referendum among all the members, proposing an exception for an exceptional member: Col. Barfoot, CMOH.
Such an action would make it legal, and preserve the integrity of the HOA covenant, which actually serves some very useful purposes.
Wait until you have a neighbor with several old kitchen appliances in the front yard!
In point of fact, the restrictive covenants contained in most HOA agreements are part of the homeowner’s property rights. They help insure the value of the property and prevent the gradual degradation of a neighborhood.
Posted by: Mike Lee | December 4, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Not even the President of the United States and the entire Congress has the right to tell a war hero to take down the flag he fought for. I seriously doubt if that little homeowner’s association is collectively qualified to polish the Colonel’s boots.
My step-father served in Korea. I would not tolerate anyone telling him to take down his flag. I’d fight to keep mine and I’m not even a veteran! The people in that community and the entire state should take action immediately.
While we at it, I doubt if anyone at ABC is qualified to refer to Col. Barfoot by his last name alone. That’s Col. Barfoot or Mister Barfoot to most of us. And don’t forget to add ‘sir’ when you address him. The man has earned proper respect, show it.
We should have expected better of ABC.
Posted by: oonogil | December 4, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Dear Mr. Mike Lee,
You can write whatever you want in a HOA agreement, it doesn’t mean it’s legal.
It is against common sense and the law to prevent Col. Van T. Barfoot from having a flagpole and displaying old glory.
Period.
They don’t need to pass around a referendum to make an exception for Mr. Barfoot.
Anyone who wants to fly an American Flag has the right to do so.
You sir, need a priority check.
Posted by: Noz | December 4, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Even though the HOA has it in their covenent to prohibit flagpoles, they should make an exception for this hero and be proud that he lives in their community.
Posted by: Meloutoo | December 4, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Being a veteran myself, a agree that Col. Van T. Barfoot should definetly be allowed to display the U.S. flag he bravely fought for.
This group of HOA should even assign a person from this group to help the medal of honor winner with the raising of his flag every morning and again help with taking it down at night.
This group and neighbors as well should be honored to have such a hero living among them. Lets forget a little of the property values and recognize the valuable respect and honor Col. Van T. Barfoot deserves from all of us.
HOA council, leave this hero alone and find something better to do with your time.
Posted by: Jimmy | December 4, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Susses Square Homeowners Association Board should be ashamed. They dishonor their father and their mothers. They bring shame to each of their names. They should resign in mass. Americans everywhere should pay whatever it cost to support Col. Barfoot in this fight.
Posted by: Jim | December 4, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Well said, Mike!
Posted by: John Bland | December 4, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Well, you people seem to comment a lot while not knowing much of the story. Col Barfoot requested permission in July 09 to erect the flagpole and was denied permission (He was flying the flag off his porch). September 0f 09 he erected the flagpole anyway. I love my country, seved 25 years in the Infantry, but he knew the standards and refused to follow them.
Posted by: bob | December 4, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Yes, he knew (after he ASKED!!) that those were the “neighborhood standards”. Problem is, why would anyone NEED to ask permission to fly an American flag? Especially a man with his record of service. Sometimes the “standards” are arbitrarily set by a few who consider themselves to be the bosses of everyone. It would be very interesting to know who the other residents (not board members) feel about this flag.
Posted by: xtch3 | December 4, 2009, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
sorry about the typo: ” . . HOW the other residents feel . . .”
Posted by: xtch3 | December 4, 2009, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
The joint chief of staff should have a detail ( one member of each service to raise the flag on Col. Barfoot’s flag pole. 7 days a week ) In HONOR not only to him for his service , all veterans who have served.
Posted by: jesse peterson | December 5, 2009, 4:29 am 4:29 am
Dear “Oonogil”;
To quote you:
Dear Mr. Mike Lee,
>You can write whatever you want in a HOA agreement, it doesn’t mean it’s legal.
It is against common sense and the law to prevent Col. Van T. Barfoot from having a flagpole and displaying old glory.
Period.<
You are correct, but not to the extent you seem to think. Illegal items – stipulating that a property MUST have marijuana growing on it, for example – can not be enforced in a HOA covenant.
But there are no statutes which stipulate that every person has a "right" to fly a Confederate, Turkish, Russian, Italian or U.S. flag. Furthermore, when Col. Barfoot signed the restrictive covenant agreement, he specifically waived that option.
Specifications as to type of fence, whether front yard fences may be erected, specie of lawn grass, specie of trees and shrubs, decorative lighting, color of mailbox, etc. all can be included in restrictive covenants and can – and WILL – be enforced in chancery courts all over the U.S.
You don't need an attorney to learn about that — just talk with any licensed real estate broker.
Col. Barfoot was previously displaying the flag from his front porch, which didn't violate the covenant. But, when he decided he wanted a flagpole and undertook a unilateral modification of the contract he'd signed. A legally binding and enforceable contract. If the HOA fails to respond to that, they effectively set a precedent that essentially guts the entire agreement. The next homeowner might decide to put a billboard in his front yard!
As Rush Limbaugh put it "words MEAN things!."
Posted by: Mike Lee | December 5, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“But there are no statutes which stipulate that every person has a “right” to fly a Confederate, Turkish, Russian, Italian or U.S. flag. Furthermore, when Col. Barfoot signed the restrictive covenant agreement, he specifically waived that option.” – Mike Lee
Mr Mike,
There is a statute and it’s name is common sense.
Furthermore, when Col. Barfoot signed the agreement it wasn’t negotiable, in that respect he was an unwilling partner. If he could have had the opportunity to put in a few agreeable amendments at signing, then the HOA would be standing on firmer ground.
Your silly argument example about someone putting up a billboard doesn’t apply because that falls out of the realm of common sense, we are talking about an American Flag and a flag pole here.
Posted by: Noz | December 5, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
The HOA is an embarrassment to the State of Virginia and to the United States. It sounds to me like the HOA are a bunch of effete snobs, who never served our country, never put on a uniform and never made a significant contribution to the USA. They are the kind of folks that this country can easily do without.
Posted by: Doctor C | December 5, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
To All Who Support Col. Barfoot. Thank you for standing behind our Veterans! Especially a Medal of Honor Winner! Col. Barfoot has acheived the highest honor that our country has to offer to our military members. With that said he should be given the opportunity to fly his flag at his home. This is something that regardless of what he has been awarded should be allowed to be displayed by anyone and anywhere. The fact that he is a medal of honor recipient just makes it better for the community in the sense that they know that they have a MOH recipient that resides in there community. They should be grateful that recognized and unrecognized service men and women fought and died for the right of freedom. They were the ones that allowed americans to be free, and with freedom comes the righ to have a Home owners Association. Let it be known to the Sussex Square Homeowners Association, that this great man and many others fought and died for the right for you to have your Association, the least you can to do show your appreciation is allow Col. Barfoot to keep his flag of this great nation flying. He also has the right of freedom just like you and that right allows him to display his flag proudly. This man has done nothing but good things for this country, and you shouldn’t be the barrier that stops him from his right to display his flag everyday.
Thank you
LTC Rob Harper
US Army Retired
Posted by: Rob | December 5, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
oonogil:
I could agree that he should be allowed to fly his flag, and that the community should definitely be honored to have him in their midst. But re: ABC being “qualified” to call Col. Barfoot by his last name, that is ridiculous. It is correct, in journalistic style, to refer to the man by his last name after he has been identified in the first place. It is not, as you imply, a matter of disrespect. Further, you would only call him “Sir” if you were addressing him directly. (I’m an Army veteran AND a former journalist.)
Posted by: Kim | December 6, 2009, 5:21 am 5:21 am
Personally, I think one should work within community rules. But also, I think the Association’s position is ridiculous. Isn’t there any allowance for exceptions? My father was a disabled, decorated WW2 veteran who took part in the first modern American Commando raid as a member of Darby’s Rangers (when there was just ONE 400-man battalion of Rangers!) and was in the vanguard of amphibious invasions in North Africa, Sicily, Salerno, and Anzio. The gratitude he was shown throughout life by his community for his sacrifices (wounded on three occasions) made his disabilities more tolerable. Shame on this man’s neighbors. And even if this is a brand new flag pole and he just began doing it – I don’t see how it would lower property values of ruin the beauty of the community unless he’s directly blocking someone’s view of a waterfall, etc. which seems unlikely.
Posted by: The_Mick | December 6, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
I’m a Canadian and one of the things I’ve always respected and admired about the USA was it’s enthusiasm in displaying Old Glory. I’m jelous of America.
Col. Barfoot is a hero in my eyes and every American should stand with him in defending his right to fly the flag. He fought in two wars – probably lost friends in both of them.
Celebrate your Hero’s don’t embarass them with attempts at removing his rights that he fought for – both himself and America.
Col. Barfoot – fly the flag If they stop you – come to my home in Canada and Fly the American Flag – I would be proud to meet you and stand with you on this.
Posted by: Peter | December 6, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
There’s a fairly simple solution. A few years ago, Congress passed legislation that allowed people to put up a satellite dish, provided it was under certain size etc. This law preempts any HOA rules etc.
They can do the same with a flag pole that flies the American flag, provided the size is in keeping with the size of the house, it’s properly maintained, etc.
I bet this would sail through both houses of Congress in a day or so.
Posted by: peter | December 6, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Is this why the ‘great state of virginia’ wants to be referred to as ‘The Commonwealth of virginia’? The ‘people’ of the HOA should walk up and thank Col. Barfoot for his meritorious service to this country! It goes against what this country stands for, by forcing a Medal of Honor veteran to remove the flag he fought for and made sacrifices for! What are they going to do next, make President Obama remove the US flag form the White House? Wish they would come and try to make me remove mine! They are as unpatriotic as daylights! Sussex Square should be called ‘Little Berlin’!
Posted by: cajunwtr60 | December 6, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
I wonder if the illustrious HOA would have made Robert E. Lee take down HIS flag and flagpole?
Posted by: cajunwtr60 | December 6, 2009, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Bob, the HOA should have consented to Col. Barfoot’s request. That is one reasons many of us vets have a bad taste in our mouth for how we have been treated by some of these ‘good citizens’ we fought to protect. When I came home from SE Asia, I was not treated as a hero, I was among the many that was shoved off in a closet and forgotten. But now, the men and women in Irag and Afghanistan understand what we were up against- fighting insurgents instead of a recognized military force. Our country owes its gratitude to Col. Barfoot and all the others who fought to defend it.
Posted by: cajunwtr60 | December 6, 2009, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
He was willing to lose his life for that flag and no one is entitled tell him not to fly that flag. He is an old war hero and damn it, he earned that right to stick that flag anywhere he liked !!!
Like Mike Lee says, those HOA could save themselves a lot of consternations from us if they just be more flexible.
Posted by: catro | December 7, 2009, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Please let the poor vet fly our flag. without that flag you would not have your HOA to start with. Mr Barfoot fly that with pride it looks better in your front yard,than it does on Larry Flynnts butt in our federal courthouse!
Posted by: Tricky Dickey 13 | December 7, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
You go Colonel! I’m with you. I think it is a problem we don’t show enough patriotism and loyalty to our country these days. Our children aren’t learning love of country like our elders did and it’s a darn shame.
Posted by: Lori | December 7, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
So what if this guy is a veteran? Why should that mean he doesn’t have to follow the same HOA rules as everyone else? I’m sure he was given a copy of the rules when he moved in, and it was his choice to then live there.
Posted by: John | December 7, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
I agree that it’s a stupid thing to cause such a fuss over. But I’d be curious to know whether he entered into that contract, with that specific clause, before he put up the pole. Because then he probably should have read it over, and raised concerns then.
Logic over blind patriotism.
Posted by: Jim Beam | December 7, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
This is why I don’t like HOAs and would never purchase a property that has one on the deed. If I purchase a home It is my home not their’s! I’m retired I have a flap pole in my front yard and a fifth wheel tucked up behind my front set back line when not in use. I like my life style and don’t want anyone to direct me what to do. However I also respect my neighbors and their property. I hope he wins and the HOA allows the pole to stay!
Posted by: J79 Engine | December 7, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
The American Flag in not “junk”, It is not unsightly. It should not be compared to rusty appliances in someone’s yard. Political correctedness is ruining this country–the issue of flying the American Flag and showing patriotism should NOT even be an issue. This is the UNITED STATES– any other flag would be inappropriate. Anyone living in this country should be loyal to OUR FLAG– or get out.
Posted by: Oreisha | December 7, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
I too live in a HOA and was on the board for many years and know about all those restrictions but they are mainly to keep someone’s property from decreasing in value due to junk in the yard. So, I’m with the Colonel on this one!!! Let us know if you need any help, Colonel!!! When we had our satellite dish installed they put it in the back side yard, them months later the receeption got bad so they came back and moved it to the roof. Then we went to HD and couldn’t get anything so they came back and I had them put it on the side of our front yard in line with a tree. You can’t see it unless you really look for it because of the branches, but someone complained. We told them we had no choice. We also had 2 in our HOA that had white roofs put on. Tell me that didn’t stand out!! When he changes his roof, I’lll change my dish!!!
Posted by: nana12x | December 7, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
It would be helpful if someone from the homeowners association would explain their decision I believe Mr. Lee is correct regarding the legal status of HOA to enforce the association’s restrictions. The principle is is someone doesn’t approve of the restrictions then don’t buy property in the development. I think Mr. Lee’s suggestion to approve an exception is the proper course of action.
Posted by: David Hackney | December 7, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I wonder what “aesthetic” they are protecting in Henrico County. Isn’t that the area that was called “The Wilderness” during the Civil War? Creeps!
Posted by: Michael Quane | December 7, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
The absurdity is having some rules and permitting a HOA to run amoke. This is just one example but it is an unusually egregious one. I am a stong liberal and card carrying Democrat who would never, ever accept the infringement on my liberty by living in a community with an HOA and I don’t want neighbors who don’t want the flag flown with respect and honor in the neighborhood,
Posted by: Betty G. Withers | December 7, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
No one in this country has the right to tell another person that they may not fly our color’s ( in ground pole or not)–providing they follow the rules for flag etiquette–& especially not a M.O.H. gentleman–they should shake his hand.
Posted by: cindy | December 7, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Need help ?? It would be an honor to picket beside an M.O.H.winner!
p.s. bob (25 yrs as a 2nd Lt ?)
Posted by: brian h bourgoine | December 7, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
It is unfortunate the Home owners cannot find a way to keep the flag flying. It should remind all of us that as long as our troops are in harm’s way as long as the two wars now in progress will soon be going to Dover soon enough. I fly my Flag day and night with the flag illuminated per flag etiquette
Posted by: Charles A. Derrow, MD, FACP | December 7, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I’m surely on Mr. Barfoot’s side. As a Vietnam vet, and with a dad that was a WW II vet; we have earned the right to fly our flag on our property.
I too have a flag pole, lighted at night. At the first sign of a fray, the flag is replaced and the old one deliver to the local VFW.
Perhaps the Patriot Guard could pay a visit to the neighborhood.
Thanks for flying the flag Mr Barfoot.
Posted by: Ron Rus | December 7, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Where to start…….If I ever have the honor to meet Col. Barefoot I would one, salute the man because I am a retired Master/Sergeant , United States Army and this is a show of respect to those recipients of the Medal of Honor.Next, I would ask him to sign my Medal of Honor book given to me by another Medal of Honor recipient. The salute is an honor that military and veterans understand as both a sign of respect and a greeting between military personnel and only they have this privilege.
As for the HOA, let me say that they have their rights as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution because of veterans. The news reporters have their free press rights because of veterans. The same for members of the many religious denominations.
Where does America get people like Col. Barefoot ? They are us ! They are ordinary people who choose to take on the daunting task of being a warrior.It is this group of men and women who face death and the long separations from their family and friends so we have all that America provides for it’s people.
Flag waiver ? yes I am and I have seen countries where even the thought of disagreeing with the government could put you on the wall. Come on America, take the time to contact this HOA group and let them know that their attention to a mans flag is misdirected and most certainly UN-American. after all the flag is the sign of freedom and people around the world die trying to reach our shores through out the year. Ever see a line at the North Korean or Cuban or Iran consulate with people trying to get a visa to enter that county ? As for the veterans and our military they have laid to rest their Buddy’s and family members under our flag…More than a symbol this is who we are.
Posted by: Bill | December 7, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
It is time for the HOA board to meet, unanimously change their idiotic rule — At least amending it to allow any decorated combat veteran to install a 20-40-foot pole and fly the American flag.
I will guarantee at least one member of the HOA board was a draft dodger.
Regardless, those people are not qualified to make this decision for Colonel Barfoot.
Would John Bland state his combat veteran credentials?
Will the rest of the HOA directors state their combat veteran credentials??
Regardless, for any pack of sanctimonious incompetents to pull this officious nonsense on a Medal of Honor hero is beneath contempt
I suggest a Christmas Day DRIVE THROUGH AND AROUND HORN HONKING RALLY recognizing the Sussex Square Jackassery Crowd.
Possibly 10,000 honking, loud exhaust protestors will help those blockheads wake up!!!
Granted,it will not bring them up the IQ scale to MORON, but at least they will not be asleep Imbeciles.
Posted by: Dan Taylor | December 8, 2009, 6:48 am 6:48 am
It is a smack in the face to all Veterans when one is told they cannot fly the flag, especially a Medal of Honor recipient. I am a retired veteran and I also have a problem with it being an expression of Freedom of Speech to burn one. Not in America and better not be IN FRONT OF ME! I was trained to defend and protect it and all that it stands for.
Posted by: John Meadors | December 8, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm