Super Sunday: Does Obama Have the Votes?

I sure hope he doesn’t. The current the healthcare plan will continue to destroy this country. Obama and the liberal democrats don’t get it. The majority of the American DON’T want this plan!

I sure HOPE not. The American people do NOT want it. The democrats are power hungry and are going to shove this on us even though it will distroy our great nation. Nancy Pilose is Evil and the democtates in Congress will be signing their own termination papers. The people are getting fed up.

WE DO NOT WANT THIS HEALTHCARE REFORM! How dare they ask us to line their pockets further? This package doesn’t affect one person in Congress! They’re too far removed from the people to really know and care what their constituents want – and we’re the ones who hired these people?? Pushing their own agenda of socialism through without a vote?? Socialism at its absolute finest – NO WAY! WE ARE AMERICANS LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY, AND AS AMERICANS WE MUST STAND UP AND SAY “NO” AS LOUDLY AS WE CAN, AS LONG AS IT TAKES, UNTIL THEY FINALLY HEAR US AND STOP THIS INSANITY!

I sure wish these propaganda wielding republicans would stop using the term “The American People” as if my and half the rest of the country are not Americans. I guess that goes back to the sole root of this fight though. The republicans simply do not care for their fellow man. First you wanna wage war on other countries and let their people die and now us? I doubt jesus would want to save your malicious souls – you scoff at the very fact of helping your fellow man. Disgusting. Simply Disgusting. Go make some more batman posters and prance around like idiots – This bills going to pass and 32 MILLION Americans (along with the rest of us that are fortunate enough to actually have insurance) Will be having the last laugh come election time. I can’t wait to see how real scholars portray you in history’s books (assuming you don’t corrupt those with even more propaganda for our children).

ABC is asking the wrong question. Obama and co bribed, berated and extorted votes yet still could not get their MAJORITY to vote for this monstronsity without resorting to procedural tricks (reconciliation). And when even that couldn’t make a bad bill palatable to *their own people* they fall back on attempting to “deem” it passed even though that’s blatantly unconstitutional.
And remember that under even the most conservative estimates, this plan costs a trillion dollars over TEN years but only gives benefits for SIX years. (And that’s only with some highly questionable accounting that was provided to the CBO). ABC … you should be all over this instead of asking “Oh, do you think we have the votes?” What a softball question.
The question that needs asking is WHY haven’t ABC, NBC and the rest of the media been outraged (or even critical) over these thuglike tactics? Why are they continually downplaying legitimate criticism of these tactics and acting as Obama/Pelosi lapdogs? Why aren’t they covering the fact that even the CBO cannot keep up with the different versions of this bill but dems are going to ram it through without public support and without the votes to pass it openly and honestly. Crickets?? The network I loved and supported no longer exists. I’m ashamed of you ABC. I don’t need you to skew conservative … but I do ask you to at least REPORT both sides of the story in equal fashion.

Yes, it is time, and it will pass. In spite of the lies and brainwashing by the Republicans and the conservative haters who have everything in their power to ruin this presidency and this once-great country. When this bill passes and only good things come of it, the Republicans and their lemming followers will be again exposed for the greedy and immature bunch they really are.
And as for the Right crying over hardball tactics: if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Freakin’ hypocrites.

Interesting comments coming from the “no” side. They post, “Americans Don’t want this!” Um. Hello? THIS American wants this.
Also, “the CBO is fudging the numbers!” Sure they are. There’s always a conspiracy involved with anything that doesn’t go your way.
And, “it’s too costly!” Not according to the CBO, which of course is involved in that conspiracy thing. Right.
More fallacies from the anti-health-care side:
Appeal to Fear: Gov’t corruption, kill grandma, Socialism.
Appeal to Popularity: Surveys are great – as long as they “prove” your own position, and “Americans don’t want this.”
Appeal to Tradition – We need to get back to “traditional” values (whatever they are).
Poisoning the Well – “Obamacare”, “Pelosicare”, …
Red Herring – The bill is over 2000 pages long!!!!
Relativist Fallacy – I’ve never had a problem with health care, so there is no problem.
Slippery Slope – “Gov’t take over” (it’s really not) will bankrupt us! (Not according to the CBO.)
But, in all the time the Republicans use these (and other) fallacies, they’ve never really had a coherent, actionable, believable set of proposals that could be called a “bill”. Oh, there were some proposals that were good, and were put into this bill. But on the whole, the Republican leadership just dropped the ball on this one. For decades (this isn’t new), they just sat on their hands, watching the train at the station. Then, once the train actually left the station, they expected it to stop, come back, and star over – just for them.
Look, Republicans can bluster all they want. The fact is, there are existing models for this in other countries. It’s not new. It’s even been shown that it’s not perfect. But the positives have been PROVEN to outweigh the negatives. AND there’s nothing in the US Constitution that prevents this, or reconciliation, or deem-and-pass.
Get over it Republicans, the silent majority has spoken (as opposed to the loud minority). HCR will pass.
Your Tea-Party mind tricks don’t work on us.

Speak for yourself when you say “we” do not want it! A better expression would be “I” or my family does not want it. You really are only able to speak for yourself just like me. If I used your logic, then I can counter with WE DO WANT IT, because I do want it! Do I think that the bill is the best it can be? NO! Obamas intent was to allow each of us to have access to health care without restrictions to factors which we often can’t control. Example being a pre-existing condition. To have health care like that which our elected officials have and enjoy. Along the way towards that goal, however, his originally proposed plan has been forced to change and compromise. Expected by all. It has been altered to serve various interests, watered down (single payer option removed), ridiculed, sabotaged and all but stopped by opposing parties who for their own selfish gains want it derailed at all cost! He campaigned on that issue and a MAJORITY of Americans put him in the WHITE HOUSE. He has endured incredible obstacles, placed before him by special interest groups and lobbies who have used every means at their disposal to defeat this important to America bill! The reality is that many of the VERY people (House members) who are currently entrusted with this incredibly important decision/vote CAN NOT really relate. They ALREADY HAVE the best health care insurance available, and don’t want to share access. A better scenario (to level the playing field with constituents in need) would be to have each of them give up their privilages of insurance for say a year or more, lower their pay to that of the average currently struggling American, take away access to their sheltered money and randomly assign health or illness to each. Following which, then, and only then, allowing a vote on behalf of their constituents. That vote would represent the reality that a constituent faces. If the vote was no I could accept it with a greater understanding. UNTIL such time comes (I know it never will) I ask as a citizen and VOTER that they vote YES to the passage of the Health Care Reform Bill. If we can FIND and SPEND 1 (one) BILLION DOLLARS of American taxpayers money to ensure that EVERY man, woman and child in Afghanistan is provided with health care coverage surely the American people deserve the same! Each of us faces loss of employer provided coverage or self insurance status due to circumstances we can not many times control (loss of job, extended illness or change of employment to one that does not offer benefits). Those who have it and are urging you to vote no, are just as much in jeopardy of loss of coverage. House Representatives please REMEMBER that all those who want the bill to PASS VOTE TOO!!! Have COURAGE to support and PASS this bill! It is RIGHT for America and its people!

“Enough?”
No one wants it!
It is unconstitutional and horrific meddling in every family’s budgeting process! Congress is so arrogant and elitist to think yhey know best what each and every one of us “can afford” and and should do. What has happened to America?

Gee, if only the zealots would have thrown up such a fuss when Bush and Co. were busy ginning up a couple of trillion dollar wars. Are we really supposed to believe they care about fiscal responsibility? Don’t they realize how silly they sound getting up in arms about furnishing health insurance to the uninsured when they helped march us into two fruitless wars with nary a whimper? Please Americans, I realize many of you don’t believe in book learnin’ but try not to sound quite so stupid. It makes us all look bad.

Lets get this insurance reform done, its a good bill. Then we can start working on a public option.

I think this is horrible! I cant believe those who support this bill do you no the facts i dont think so. This bill goes against everything this country stands for and no one can deny that. If you want universal health care go to a different country because this is the United States

I am an American and I support this healthcare bill.

Healthcare and education are cheaper than wars.

This president is determined to socialize, only the men and women sent to Washington AND YOUR STRONG VOICE, can save our American drive and independance – IF THEY ONLY HAVE THE COURAGE.