More Scientology Defectors Alleging Violence

Well, I can’t wait to see the Pro-Sci spin on the NYT piece. I suppose they are all liars and bigots too, eh?
For anyone with a somewhat objective mind, you must see a pattern here.
The tech doesn’t work and the cult places little value on human dignity.
Keeping my fingers crossed for the vote in the Aussie senate this week!!!!!
If the vote passes, and the Senate inquiry moves forward…Yet another domino will have fallen.

as someone who lives in clearwater, florida – the home of the HIVE – i can tell you they are taking over everything little but little. businesses downtown and around the city are run by Scientologist and they make money that is then given to the church. all the little “minions” run around and they all dress alike – just like Nazi’s. they are freightning but will anyone do anything? nope. all someone has to do is set up shop, call themselves a “church” and they get instant tax havens and credits – and do nothing but brainwash the populous. it’s time to really sit up and take a look at this money making, pyramid scheem, brainwashing, LYING “church”.

ABC Nightline coverage was excellent, but IMO, it was just the tip of the iceberg. It’s much worse than you think.
This cult gets away with its criminal activities by promoting that it is recognized as a “church” in the USA by the IRS. This is extremely embarrassing for America.
There is now more than enough evidence in the media and recent books to start an investigation of this mafia-like cult. If the IRS and Justice Department continues to sit on their laurels, then they have betrayed the US public.
I wonder if the IRS would approve them today, now that so much evidence is out there? If they would, we are clearly in trouble as a nation.

It appears that with Scientology they teach their flock how to become control freaks.
Having a alot of little Hitlers all over the place must be their concept of what is an Operating Thetan.
Scientology must attract control freaks

I met a few Scientologists when I was in my early 20′s. They tried to talk me and a few friends of mine to go to a meeting. We found out they actually pay the church every month to be members. I couldnt believe it. The people appear to be brainwashed. They all dress and act the same. They are very creepy. I think people who are easily manipulated could get stuck becoming a Scientologist.

Getting tired of all the “accusations” of wrong doing. What is not being written is that these people knew what they were getting into from the start. Even the novice Scientologist knows about the “low-pay and long hours” or the “free-loader” debt — these aspects are also well known by novice Scientologists and well documented at the very start of your SO internship. Another well known fact is that: One does not join the SO to work for a company or to make money. One joins as a higher calling, much like joining the priesthood or a buddist temple. These accusations are salacious enough to make headlines and act as fodder for anonymous (both the noun and the adjective) forums but that is as far as it will get. A recent German commission found no evidence of such activiity, Belgium has been trying to find such evidence for over 10 years — nothing, and recently a EU high Court found no evidence of “any criminal activity” emanating from the COS in a case for religious status in Russia. A recent Cal OSHA investigation also found nothing after a “anonymous” complaint regarding the COS ‘s movie studios. The alledged former SO members know all of the above. They know that they have failed their Church, their fellow Church members and, most importanly, their own personal integrity.

first, I would like to say that I am not a Scientologist, but I am a member of an interfaith group where there is a greater supporter and member who is a Scientologist and in fact I am a Muslim. Whether what happened happened it is irrelevant. What happened is a personal conflict between the Miscavige and the accusers. In a court of law he does not have to prove that he is innocent and certainly there is no proof that what happened happened except by allegation. whether it is true or not. If someone does not want to be a part of religious movement or group is their personal choice.

Open your eyes!!!! Big Pharma has druged millions with their mind altering drugs and makes 100′s of billions each year while doing it, Litracy rates have dropped dramatically creating a population with lower IQ’s thereby making them unable to reason properly,Big Governments AKA “Homeland Security” keyword triggers every phone call you make and every e-mail you send, The Monetary Crisis has destroyed the value of your money, Recession and possible Economic Depression is looming… And you want me to buy the idea that Scientology is the big bad wolf ? Start looking at the real threats to life and society if you dare!

mathew ch 17,GOD spoke from the sky,to eyewitnesses,JESUS is GODS son,listen to him,mark ch 9,luke ch 9:28-36,,,peter ch1:16-18,all these historians record this,and put it in 1 BIBLE.GOD never spoke from sky,listen to l ron hubbard,or muhhammed,or hare krishna,or BUddha.exodus ch 19:9-11,,,dueteronomy ch4,,,ch5,GOD spoke from sky,to 2-3 million eyewitnesses,exodus ch 12:37-38,believe in moses forever.i researched every world religion,i can find,in 30 years.

I would buy a car from the young Scientology speaker. However, the girl was on 3 months ago and was claiming to be a “new member” but now is claiming she was a long-term staffer. The others ex-staffer’s are all lying too – my feel for it.
With all the BS going on in politics & government, it occurs to me that Scientology somehow stands against the destruction of America. I am going in to find out for myself about this, I bet they have a lot to offer everyone.
Scientology seems to be opposed to “psychopolitics” (read about it on the web). Of course they are being made to look bad – they are opposing the dark side – quite simple really.

Scientology – bah! It’s a social philosophy, not a religion. Where else does one reveal the secrets of an entire lifetime, to several helpers who record it all? Confession in Catholicism is nothing compared to this practice. Does anyone wonder why the big stars of today who are Scientologists stay that way, despite what they may actually WANT to do?? They’re afraid their careers will be ruined by a little snippet or accidental leak of some of these recorded secrets. Scuttlebutt has it that Travolta wants out but can’t leave because of what the “church” knows about him. And no other religion forbids family members from seeing each other if one rejects the “faith.” What a bunch of horsenonsense.

So where are your Gods now that the world is in so much turmoil..you can call out for any one of the religions gods or devil and they will not apear
or come to u try it if you dont beleave me…what u dont want to meet your god.
Dr s call seeing gods angles halucinations, they medicate you and lock you away with a court order in the united states for that

Virgin woman gives birth to a tiny god. Love that one. Finally someone says it. Thanks.

But guys take a look there is nothing to refute because there isn’t a single substantive offered.

Potential recruits are not told upfront what they are getting into. At first they are told they have some problems and scientology can help. They are then pressure-saled into expensive TRs (training routines). These TRs are LITERALLY hipnotic devices. Look it up. It puts people into a highly-suggestable state that sometimes includes a feeling of euphoria. THIS is where new recruits are first conditioned to accept the odd things going on around them. If they want to continue with scientology they will proceed to “auditing”. In the auditing sessions the person will be asked about traumatic events in their life. The auditor will keep trying to go back in time to a younger and younger age until FINALLY the new recruit starts to talk about trauma in the womb (like we would remember that!) and then they try to go back EVEN FURTHER into past lives. They try to get people to admit the horrors that were done to them (or they did to others) in past lives. If a person gets to this point they have COMPLETELY lost their ability to know reality from fiction. They are now ready for REAL scientology.

The SeaOrg is compared to joining a monastery or sisterhood by Scientologists eager to shrug off the claims of abuse, torture, lack of pay, and long arduous hours.
There are many differences, however. First, monks and nuns are not used as labor forces by their respective churches. Within the Church of Scientology (CoS), the SeaOrg are the exclusive labor force for ALL activities on CoS compounds.
This extends beyond “Church activities” and goes into production facilities, maintenance and upkeep, and numerous technical areas that members are woefully unskilled in. Even those monks and nuns who are engaged in manual labor are required to be fully trained and licensed in their technical areas and the organization abides by all safety and health codes. Again, the exact opposite is true as SeaOrg members are forced into cleaning out filth and garbage without safety masks, work breaks, or proper training in hazardous material handling.
Monks and nuns dedicate their lives to their faith, but only after an extended period of time (over 2 years) where they must “intern” at their organization and experience it on a trial basis before making the full commitment. It is only open to individuals who are over the ages of 21 and who have received complete formal educations and in many instances a degree in Religious Studies is required. Those who DO eventually change their mind are permitted to leave of their own free will. The SeaOrg coerces individuals as young as 16 with no trial period, utilizes a military boot camp indoctrination process to brainwash members, separates them off from exposure to any aspect of the outside world, and utilizes coercion through the seizure of passports and other forms of identification to prevent members from leaving.
The SeaOrg is nothing like a religious order, instead it is closer akin to a slave labor force that is kept barely alive through the minimum amount of food and sleep (and even then, that can be taken away), and if you are bad you are placed into the Rehabilitation Project Force, something far far worse.

Im not a scientologist, but i would like to say that whenever i watch the videos of Tom Cruise i can’t help but feel that this is a very happy man who must know a thing or two about life.
I mean, he can have almost anything he wants and the one thing he wants is to show the world how GREAT scientology is. That means something.
And if scientology is so bad then why do they keep building all these wonderful buildings? If scientology was bad they wouldnt make money!
And if the Church really believed all the crazy things that people say they do, then the Church would come out and admit it. The fact that they dont talk about aliens and stuff is proof that it is all lies.
PS. Im really not a scientologist, i just wanted to see how disgustingly dirty i felt after saying that stuff. There is no amount of money in the world that could make me repeat that crap i just said. Im gonna take a shower now.