Thimerosal in Vaccine Out as Autism Cause

Why would we believe a government committee with the outcome of this decision. After all, they are they ones to pay if it is proven to cause Autism. DUH

There are, without a doubt, thousands of parents who noticed an immediate change in their children following immunization which progressed to a diagnosis of autism. It is foolish to think that any one toxin would be responsible for the epidemic of autism…consider however, the overall toxic exposure all children are faced with combined with toxins from vaccines and an underlying genetic predisposition for autism (for which we have no reliable tests for)…..Toxic Load + Vaccines + Genetics = Autism

Very simple experiment…follow 1000 unvaccinated children and 1000 vaccinated …compare results. Why is no one doing this?

The special committee fails to take into account not only the circumstancial and anecdotal evidence but fails in the tradition of ‘observation science’. The very significant numbers of children who exhibit and ‘contract’ autism can’t be ignored and eventually the evidence will be uncovered to prove that combining vaccinations instead of spreading them out stresses the developing brain in small children. How many “safe” and “approved” drugs have eventually been found to cause significant damage; ie, Thalidamide, and may other example.

There is no dought in all parents minds vaccines are causing children t end up with autism. If you took a count, it would be overwhelming.

No. I believe that vaccines are causing brain damage, possibly including autism and asperger’s syndrome.
“Vaccines like pertussis are actually used to induce encephalitis (experimental allergic encephalomyelitis) in laboratory animals.” Levine S. Lowinski R. (1973). Hyperacute allergic encephalomyelitis, Amer J pathol, 73: 247-250.
Plus, adults are also falling victim to Hepatitis B vaccines. Here’s what one woman, originally diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome found out happened to her:
“In my case, when I received the inoculations, my body formed no antibodies. Instead, the substance attacked my central nervous system. I was asked if I’d ever had electro-shock treatments. Apparently my brain scan showed this type of damage.”

I am actually amazed that the Federal Government would even try to approach the subject of vaccines related to Autism in children. They have covered up for the Food and Drug Administration as well as the drug companies to the point now of me wondering who all is actually involved and on what levels. I personally know doctors that have gone to Washington to address this issue and have proven that the mercury levels between 1990 and 2000 in vaccinations were causing autism in children and serious illness in soldiers that were adminstered vaccinations. What a sad state we are in in this country when we spend tax payers money to investigate a situation that has made so many people so sick knowing full well the outcome will be in the governments favor. The government is so involved in shielding the drug companies from this disaster that they wrote protection for them in the Terrorists Act. What is terrorism again???? I’m just wondering??? What an atrocity! How can we ever trust the government on anything again? Only if you make it to the top of that political chain will we ever see what really goes on. Frankly, I am more certain now than ever before that the preservative in the vaccines have caused autism and many other illness and the that the government has a great deal to hide from us all.

As an Aspergerian (its what some of us with Asperger’s Autism like to call outselves), I saw this outcome comming years ago. Frankly people these days are going crazy over autism and it’s rather sickening, rather than trying to help us, they’re trying to help themselves by trying to find a way to get rid of us.
There are many organizations and charities dedicated to “helping” autistics, that never actually bother to ask autistics how they can help us. Sure they may be parents, or doctors, or both, but when it comes right down to it, no one knows more about autism than us, because it is who we are.

And so it continues…
No matter who conducts research there’s is always going to be someone shouting foul play. Look at the facts:
1. Thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001, yet autism is still on the rise
2. Could it be as simple as the testing for diagnosing autism/asperger’s has advanced over the last decades. I know going to school as a child there were a lot of kids who, looking back, probably were suffering from autism, but because proper tests were not in place, these kids were just placed in “special ed” classes
3. Andrew Wakefield, the lead author of the 1998 article published in The Lancet that brought this “link” to the public, had received funding from British trial lawyers to seek evidence against vaccine manufacturer’s. The other 10 coauthors have since retracted their interpretation. Other speculation is that Mr. Wakefield knowingly withheld evidence that contradicted his claims of an autism-vaccination connection.
4. Whether or not you trust the US gov’t, there have been studies in Sweden, Denmark, UK, another funded by the EU, Japan, and others, who have found NO scientific and concrete link between vaccinations and autism.
5. Is no one concerned that the incidence of measles has risen?

MY son,up until a little after 2yr old,was progressing like a regular tot. after the vaccinations he regressed. I believe the pharmaceutical took our children s future away from us and them. They will not admit to any harm from the vaccine because of multiple law suits At least compensate them for misfortune that was thrusted upon them,and the toll it takes on each and every family.Lastly all the family with children or family members who have autism should write the President Obama to do more for children and family’s that care for them.

First of all, I don’t trust the US government to conduct such a study. It is in their best interest to keep parents lining up for vaccines.
Secondly, even if the study was conducted ethically, it doesn’t convince me of the overall safety of vaccines. We weren’t meant to inject things into our bodies. There is a whole body of evidence against it that the government and medical community at large are ignoring.
When you compile all the statistics regarding vaccines, your child is actually more likely to suffer from an adverse vaccine reaction than to contract one of the illnesses, let alone suffer permanent injury or death from said disease. Using simple statistical math, the choice is clear.
When a doctor is considering treatment for any condition, the risks and benefits of the treatment are discussed and the treament is only administered if the benefits outweigh the risks. This, however, is ignored when it comes to vaccines.

For the “Aspergerian” Ren;
Asperger’s is not Autism. Asperger’s and Autism have seperate DSM IV DX codes. Asperger’s and Rett’s do have the same DSM IV code (299.80) but no ” Aspergerians” I know of say they have Rett’s.
If someone were to ask my adult son who has Autism (299.00) what people should do for autistics, he would probably just repeat the question, which is his way of saying “I don’t know” or “I don’t understand the question”. If you asked my neighbor’s 17 year old granddaughter the same question, she wouldn’t say anything. But she has never said anything.
So, who should speak for them???

I never questioned the vaccination concern. Autism is hereditary. Plain and simple. Check your genealogy. Accept reality. Don’t find anything? It’s not autism.

To “Rick”
The DSM-IV codes are merely a classification system, like the Dewey decimal system.
Let me provide an example,the numbers are from the top of my head since I’m not going to take the time to actually look up the actual numbers of a book. Lets say we have two Books on George Washington, one on his childhood family life, another on his death, they have two different numbers, but they are without a doubt still about George Washington.
The same applies here, and it should also be noted that Rett’s is also on the autistic spectrum.
But if you insist on having a “pureblooded” autistic, I know of several high functioning autistics who can also speak on behalf of autistics as well. Either way, autistics have a voice, and it needs to be heard.

What a crock ABC!
Do you seriously think this “case is closed?”
And why hide behind the the name “thimerosal” when you know most viewers have no idea you’re talking about a KNOWN NEUROTOXIN — mercury — that was injected into our children’s boides?
If it’s soooo safe, why not just state the REAL facts so your viewers can get the REAL story?
Kelli Ann
(not to be confused with the “other” Kelli who has commented on this story!)

Actually, the federal court’s Special Masters simply wrote, “Having failed to satisfy their burden of proof under the articulated legal standard, petitioners cannot prevail on their claim of vaccine-related causation.” The Special Masters, lawyers all without even a single science undergrad degree among them, made no claim about whether vaccines were or were not causally related to the children’s autistic regression. They simply said that the petitioners did not present enough evidence to support their claim.

Perhaps,it is not the thimerosal in the vaccine that causes autism. That is not to say the vaccine is not responsible. Changes in the immune system may be triggered by vaccination, predisposing some children, not all, to conditions like asperger’s and autism. Maybe, just too many vaccines, too soon and too close together is the cause.

Vaccines save lives, that’s a given. Perhaps millions of lives in poor, malnourished third world countries through out time have been spared horrible diseases and have simply died of starvation or the atrocities of war.
Yes vaccines save lives, as do weapons of mass destruction or other so called deterrents. The cost of such programs and the human fallout as a result of implementing such programs is another thing.
Why would the government or any nation that has the authority to send cruise missiles into neighborhoods or inject known neuro-toxins into the bodies of children admit anything that would call into question the reasoning of such actions. After all the action is for the better good, it is to save lives.
The vaccine program is a national security issue as illustrated in the Patriot Act. There will never be anything that would call into question the program, collateral damage is just one of those sad consequences of war, war against disease.
The US Department of Health and Human Services issued a statement about the vaccine court’s decision, in it is the following quote, “The safety and efficacy of vaccines—and the public’s confidence in them—is one of our highest priorities. ” Public confidence is a top priority.
HHS Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, in her interview with Arthur Allen for The Reader’s Digest, on February 5th of this year said the following, “There are groups out there that insist that vaccines are responsible for a variety of problems despite all scientific evidence to the contrary. We have reached out to media outlets to try to get them to not give the views of these people equal weight in their reporting to what science has shown and continues to show about the safety of vaccines,”
The head of the government’s Health and Human Service agency says that the government has made an effort to censor the media coverage regarding vaccines.
There will never be any government funded scientific acknowledgment of a connection between vaccines and anything remotely linked to autism. There is too much at stake. They will admit that on occasion they maim, they cause brain injuries and that they kill, but they would never admit that vaccines cause lingering burdens on society in about 1% of the child population and their families.

I have no medical or scientific expertise and I cannot dispute this claim on medical or scientific grounds.
I am very familiar with the history of the credibility of claims made by both the United States government and the pharmacutical industry on many issues.
Why should I believe that either one is FINALLY telling the truth?
That’s what I thought.

Yes. Absolutely.

“See results of recent study on vaccines in primates in NeuroToxicology. ”
You mean the study by Andrew Wakefield, recently found to be unethical and callous towards his study subjects by a recent hearing? The study that was recently pulled from the journal before it was published?
That’s the best you’ve got?

“Those in the know…know better. No one expects pharmaceutical companies to lose this one.”
That’s because those of us in the know realize that the pharmaceutical companies weren’t involved in this one.
This was a case against the U.S. government.

Re Clare at 1:27 AM “First of all, I don’t trust the US government to conduct such a study. It is in their best interest to keep parents lining up for vaccines.”
Um, how? It costs the government money to give people vaccines. If vaccination rates fall, then the government doesn’t have to spend as much money on immunisation programs.
Of course, it *is* in the government’s interest to have high vaccination rates, because low vaccination rates = sick babies, children and adults, and dead babies, children and adults. That’s not good for the government. But that’s not what you meant, right?

Oh, bad example bensmyson. Measles is far from a benign disease. A carer might miss a day or two of work to look after someone with a headcold. Symptoms of measles include a painful and dangerously high fever of 40C/104F+ and photophobia (essentially a migraine that lasts for up to 2 weeks). So the patients who end up ‘fine’ are very sick for a couple of weeks, often requiring hospitalisation (which, btw, costs more to the government than the forgone taxes from a carer staying home during the illness).
Relatively common complications include pneumonia, bad ear infections, corneal scarring, and encephalitis. These complications can lead to permanent hearing loss, blindness, and brain damage.
Oh, and death.
In otherwise healthy populations, 1 in 1000 people develop the serious complications I mentioned, and 1 in 3000 die. That might sound low to you, but you don’t know very many people. It’s actually a high rate. Imagine if everyone stopped vaccinating and 1 million people caught meales–that’s 300 deaths and 700 people who end up blind, deaf or brain damaged.
The 99.9% figure you quote only refers to children in otherwise healthy populations, btw. The complication rate is higher among adults and among people with other health conditions. In immunocompromised people the fatality rate is up to 1 in 3 people.
200,000 people died of measles in 2007 so let’s knock off calling it a mild disease, OK?

Maybe mommy used too much makeup and the toxins in it caused autism in their child. Why not since you are so quick to think that vaccines did it, why not mommy’s makeup?
And no, they will not compensate unproven claims. If they did that they’d have to compensate anyone who claimed anything. Like makeup toxins being the cause of autism.
The anti-vaxxers (no, you can’t choose which vaccine is good and which is bad) are making babies sick and causing deaths, but you don’t hear them talk about that do you? You don’t hear them talk about herd immunity that could prevent these illnesses and deaths because they choose to ignore their deadly handiwork as vaccination rates drop and disease rates rise. You don’t hear them talk about Andrew “he lies” Wakefield’s fall from grace, either. Why let reality get in the way of their irrational and unfathomable fears of vaccines, vaccines that have been _proven to save lives._ Anti-vaxxers truly disgust me.

Vaccines are safe! Vaccines are safe!! Thimerosal (fifty percent organic mercury) is harmless as a lullaby! Thank you Nightline for spinning, er I mean breaking the story! And Big Thanks to Big Pharma for putting paid to all those crybabies (not the autistic ones who don’t cry). A big ‘shot in the arm’ to Fedzilla the govt monster who never admits wrongdoing!!!