‘If Fred Got Two Beatings Per Day…’ Homework Asks
Third graders in in Gwinnett County, Ga., were given math homework Wednesday that asked questions about slavery and beatings.
Christopher Braxton told ABC News affiliate WSB-TV in Atlanta that he couldn’t believe the assignment his 8-year-old son brought home from of Beaver Ridge Elementary school in Norcross.
“It kind of blew me away,” Braxton said. “Do you see what I see? Do you really see what I see? He’s not answering this question.”
The question read, “Each tree had 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?”

Another math problem read, “If Frederick got two beatings per day, how many beatings did he get in one week?”
Another question asked how many baskets of cotton Frederick filled.
“I was furious at that point,” Braxton said.
“This outrages me because it just lets me know that there’s still racists,” said Stephanie Jones, whose child is a student at the school.
“Something like that shouldn’t be imbedded into a kid of the third, fourth, fifth, any grade,” parent Terrance Barnett told WSB-TV. “I’m having to explain to my 8-year-old why slavery or slaves or beatings are in a math problem. That hurts.”
“In this one, the teachers were trying to do a cross-curricular activity,” Gwinnett County school district spokeswoman Sloan Roach said.
Roach said the teachers were attempting to incorporate social studies into math problems.
“We understand that there are concerns about these questions, and we agree that these questions were not appropriate,”
she said.
ABC News affiliate WSB-TV contributed to this report.
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Of course these were provided by the district,,, but the teachers will get the blame for using what they were given to use. I would never send home something like with my students, I’d give up my job first.
Posted by: Full Name* Kate Livi | January 7, 2012, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
I thought teachers were supposed to be intelligent.
Posted by: jigglypuff | January 7, 2012, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Yeah….I would have been upset, too!! That’s ridiculous!
Posted by: Kristina | January 7, 2012, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Math and history are two different subjects, or couldn’t the school system see this ? It’s important to teach appropriate history at an appropriate age. This math homework is absolutely outrageous. Whoever wrote this, and whoever approved it, needs to be FIRED !!!!
Posted by: calvin | January 7, 2012, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
“If Frederick got two beatings per day, how many beatings did he get in one week?”
- Enough that you’d better not turn your back on him……
Posted by: Frederick | January 7, 2012, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
This is why our child goes to a private school now in Georgia. This isn’t news to me, the work our kids are being given is incomprehensible to say the least. I cannot believe how “dumbed down” our public school system is just to be sure “no child is left behind”. As for most parents out there, I bet most of them didn’t even know about this because they are not involved in their children’s school work; they feel it is the schools job to raise their kids so they can grow up and support them when welfare runs out.
Posted by: Kevin | January 7, 2012, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Here’s a math and social studies problem for you: if three federal agents investigate a seemingly racist school district, how many civil rights violations will they find? There is no reason in the world for any teacher to utilize “slaves” and “beatings” as a teaching tool. This is truly beyond belief!
Posted by: susan | January 7, 2012, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I’m more interested in did the students come up the right answers than worrying about yet another thing for blacks to moan and complain about.
Posted by: Bruce | January 7, 2012, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
This is disgusting, and no doubt the sort of thing Rand Paul has in mind when he talks about doing away with the Department of Education because states know what is best for their residents. The example he gave when I heard him speak (by phone, he doesn’t make public appearances with constituents who disagree with him – too many heads to stomp) was: “Do we want our children learning GEOGRAPHY from text books written by people in New England?” Seriously. GEOGRAPHY, as though they can rewrite that the same way they do history or social studies.
Posted by: Sandy Knauer | January 7, 2012, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
These questions didn’t come from the school district. Every district’s approved curriculum is scrutinized by people who would/could never- in this day and time- allow this material to enter a classroom. However, teachers do have autonomy to create supplemental instructional materials… which these teachers did, without a CLUE as to the stupidity and/or serious implications of their actions.
That response…from the district spokesperson… Trust me! That was a district’s carefully constructed response concerning unionized workers. And, it really meant: “Oh, trust! We don’t like this, and they WILL regret it.” They won’t come out of it smelling like roses, at all. This is a big mess. And districts absolutely HATE negative media coverage and any activity they could be sued over…
Posted by: Mrs. School Teacher | January 7, 2012, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Someone was asleep at the wheel. You see, that is why the boss makes the big money, they are responsible. Hell, where is this, I want to run for office there, just send me the damn paycheck, I promise not to do a damn thing either!
Posted by: 19kilo | January 7, 2012, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
omg this is really sad
Posted by: st.louis | January 7, 2012, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
I can’t believe this would be a problem in todays world. There is no excuse for teaching elementary children something like that…as someone already stated math and history are two different subjects and should be treated as such.
Posted by: Gloria | January 7, 2012, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Is this the NEW-NEW-NEW math? Guess regular math was too boring so we had to add an element of racism into the mix to “keep the students motivated” ???? Jesus who comes up with this crap?!?! And if teachers can’t even decide what materials to use and are being fed crap like this is there any hope for better educational standards in this country?
Posted by: dc_cliff | January 7, 2012, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
As a white man, I am offended by having to recognize that slaves existed and that my ancestors would beat them. I DEMAND ACTION!
Really though, I see nothing wrong here. There is no racism involved in this. Slaves picked fruit, they picked cotton, and they were beaten by their masters. It is a dark part of history, but are we supposed to ignore it? Your kids aren’t stupid. Rather than focus on being politically correct, we should teach our youth about the past so we do not repeat our mistakes.
Also, in elementary school, teachers need to be comprehensive. The teacher that teaches math is very often the one that teaches history. If occasionally integrating the two subjects help them learn more, then we should do so.
Posted by: Tommy Nickels | January 7, 2012, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Correct me if I’m mistaken but, I believe this question regarding the oranges is written
incorrectly. How can the tree be picked if there are no oranges on it? The statement says
that it HAD 56 oranges, not has.
Posted by: michael | January 7, 2012, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
slaves?whats that?
Posted by: ih2puo | January 7, 2012, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
MICHAEL: “Correct me if I’m mistaken but, I believe this question regarding the oranges is written incorrectly. How can the tree be picked if there are no oranges on it? The statement says that it HAD 56 oranges, not has.” – - – Okay, since you asked. Slavery and the orange picking event happened in the past. Therefore, past tense is appropriate because the tree had 56 oranges on it back in the past when there were slaves around to pick them.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | January 7, 2012, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Also, in elementary school, teachers need to be comprehensive. The teacher that teaches math is very often the one that teaches history. If occasionally integrating the two subjects help them learn more, then we should do so.” – - – EXACLTY! I made the same point a while ago but the ABC censor did not like if for some reason. To everyone whining about how the math problems were inappropriate or racist – what part of cross-curricular lesson did you not understand? Try engaging in some critical thinking instead of reacting emotionally. IF the kids were learning in authentic American History lessons (unlike the white-washed version of history I was taught in the 60′s & 70′s) that we used to practice slavery, and that slaves did nearly all of the work – including picking cotten and fruits -, and the slaves were beaten, then what on earth is wrong with reinforcing THE SAME UGLY TRUTHS in a few math problems? And if the science lessons can do the same thing then great. That is the whole point of cross-curricular lessons – to use some of the same material in mulitiple disciplines. The school is only wrong for backing down like the cowards they are.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | January 7, 2012, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
TOMMY NICHOLS: “Really though, I see nothing wrong here. There is no racism involved in this. Slaves picked fruit, they picked cotton, and they were beaten by their masters. It is a dark part of history, but are we supposed to ignore it? Your kids aren’t stupid. Rather than focus on being politically correct, we should teach our youth about the past so we do not repeat our mistakes.” – - – I completely agree with this also. And no, the ABC sensor did not like it when a tried to make that same point a while ago also.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | January 7, 2012, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Let’s hope that teacher doesn’t teach English. Each tree had should be “has,” and how much should be how “many.”
Posted by: MicheleinCa | January 7, 2012, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
This is the dumbest math lesson ever. Teaching kids in history class that slavery happened is one thing. But having them do math problems on subjects like beatings is nuts.
If there is a class covering the topic of child abuse in high school should the math problems ‘integrate’ and have them calculate the numbers of beatings a child received? Of course not.
Posted by: Librarian53 | January 7, 2012, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
i think kids should know about racism and slavery and the acts done to all races in their time of persecution. and seeing it as an math question is way better than having it done to you or seeing it done to someone else. what about Lawrence King? or Matthew Shepard? two boys from our great nation murdered in cold blood because of their sexual orientation, Lawrence being a 15 year old eighth grader. do you want your kids against persecution at a young age? or do you want your kids bullying, beating, or even killing others? i think those math questions produce a value in moral and when i have kids i would love for them to be taught by these teachers.
Posted by: Keegan Kangas | January 7, 2012, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
@B-K KnightRider & Tommy Nickels – The point you’re both trying hard to miss is that this is not how you do cross-curricular coursework. Explain how having kids calculate how many oranges a slave can pick is historically educational in any way shape or form. You both know it isn’t. They could have for instance asked the students to subtract the dates for things like the beginning and ending of the civil war, drafting and issuance of the emancipation proclamation. Adding the states mentioned in the first part of the EP and those in the second part. This one would in fact include Georgia which would be particularly educational for these students. These are just a few of hundreds that would have been actual cross-curricular coursework. Were these people trying to be racist? I couldn’t say but frankly if this is their best effort they shouldn’t be teaching.
Posted by: glacia | January 7, 2012, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
what do black people who still live down south expect? I moved down to south carolina in the late 80′s and moved right back to connecticut less than a year later because it was so racist. I’m not saying everyone can afford to move on a whim but why are they surprised by this?
Posted by: ray | January 7, 2012, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
This is typical of a southern racist state that has no cares about how the children of today are taught. Is the school board really that ignorant as to what is going on in their school system.
Posted by: larry baker | January 7, 2012, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
oka people this aint raciest at all i agree they do this so the kids can learn 2 things at once and to save time to learn other things its a really smart idea because kids in elementary school have the same teacher for every class. And to everyone that needs to go back to school i guess the question is correct it says HAD due to it being past tense if it said HAS then it is present and you can put how MANY or how MUCH its all proper for this question.
Posted by: Norman | January 7, 2012, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
The odd thing about our history and slavery is white people would like to forget about it more then black people would. History is history. Abuse is a abuse. I wonder how many people will be up in arms when ask about Jamestown. There was one husband eating wife, and wife eating children. Start making up math question related to that. Ask question about how many times the white have killed the Indians. Truth be told white people dont want to remember thier history, only when it seem justified to them.
Posted by: Toni | January 7, 2012, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Are you kidding me? These teachers KNEW this would be a problem. I’m interested to hear what the teachers have to say for them selves…they would lose their jobs in our county…we are in GA folks and if nothing else, there needs to be a little cultural sensitivity…if they are not displaying sensitivity inthis area, I’m. Retain they are not doing so in any other area…further, as a parent, I would demand that my child be removed from their class room….I don’t care your ethnicity, this should concern EVERYONE!
Posted by: ProudTeacher | January 7, 2012, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
As soon as I saw this I knew it was to go along with them teaching about slavery. Everybody let your breath out.
Posted by: lexingtonlady | January 7, 2012, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Who said they were BLACK? Maybe they were WHITE slaves. Would that there be the same uproar! The South had white slaves as well. The North had Black slaves….Slavery has been a part of history since history began!
Posted by: Huh? | January 7, 2012, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
GLACIA: “Explain how having kids calculate how many oranges a slave can pick is historically educational in any way shape or form. You both know it isn’t.” – - – Wrong. I don’t know anything of the kind, and I already explained how it is historically educational. IF the children are being taught that slaves picked oranges or cotton or anything else then there is NOTHING wrong with teaching EXACLTY the same thing in two different ways. The FACTS they are being taught are identical. The ONLY difference is how the SAME information/facts relates to two different disciplines. There is no friggin difference between the same facts in two different subjects. How exactly was the lesson racist? It did no treat blacks any differently than how they were actually treated in history. If did not teach that blacks are or slaves were inferior. There was nothing racist about it.
Posted by: BKKnightRider | January 7, 2012, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
and if that wasn’t bad enough, it was bad grammar! It switched from past to present voice. “Each tree HAD… if 8 slaves PICK”
Posted by: TK | January 7, 2012, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
I actually think that the oranges question was wrong because the answer is zero! That was why the lazy slave got the beating in the first place. But in all seriousness, what are the state and teachers thinking? Have they really left their brains behind? What are we paying them for. And finally, is this how we see ourselves becoming great again?
Posted by: Anti_slavery | January 7, 2012, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
So the teacher tried to get creative by incorporating their current history lesson into their math lesson. It was a FAIL but I’m sure it was not intended to be offensive. If the teacher now understands why this was inappropriate we should all just move on. We learn best from our failures.
Posted by: Puck | January 7, 2012, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Liberal crap meant to inflame… pure and simple.
Posted by: cjatlanta2 | January 7, 2012, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
7 oranges, 14 beatings, 30 pounds of cotton. The questions are moot — because there are no slaves!
Posted by: Gary | January 7, 2012, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Ok bkknightrider and any others who agree that this is appropriate, how about we ask the question, “HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO STEAL LAND AND ENSLAVE OTHER PEOPLE BASED UPON THE FACT THEY ARE DIFFERENT”. or, HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO SELL OFF ANOTHER PERSON’S BABIES? HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE A SERIAL KILLER? OH OH Lets not forget, HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO START WARS, STEAL FOLKS RETIREMENT MONEY ETC. NOT COOL!!!!! While I believe history should be taught and not forgotten lest we are doomed to repeat it, This is NOT THE WAY. Political correctness has NOTHING to do with it. How about just exhibiting COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT. Or should I ask HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO DISPLAY THOSE CHARACTERISITCS. MY APOLOGIES TO MY CAUCASIAN FAMILY, FRIENDS AND FELLOW POSTERS. I AM ONLY TRYING TO MAKE A POINT
Posted by: Felicia | January 7, 2012, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
There’s no good way to begin to introduce children to the uglier aspects of human history, but there are some exceptionally bad ones. This is one of those. In these kind of word problems, even a third grader gets that the verbal set up is a triviality, a throw away.Fred could pick oranges without being a slave or being beaten and without putting a degrading , violent institution in a trivial ,incidental or casual light. If this is supposed to kill two birds with one stone , it’s short sighted to say the least to think that a matter as significant as slavery could be treated in an offhanded way without that offhandedness being the lesson.
Posted by: Jean Wall | January 7, 2012, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
To all my fellow white humans who think that black people are looking for “something to moan and complain about”, (as Susan said above–this also includes the other “logically” slanted folks too, Ha! Please make note that you are NOW the minority and your projection of cultural and human insensitivity will come back to you and your descendents 100 fold…Karma is real and it wil really happen to YOU! So be it! That is all!
Posted by: TheOrator713 | January 7, 2012, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Here’s a better question. If the government continues to reduce educational spending…How old will the books have to be, that they continue to use this test out of?
Posted by: Michael | January 7, 2012, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Can the human race sink any lower?
Posted by: xargaw | January 7, 2012, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
It makes me think of the movie Life is Beautiful about the Nazis and the Italian teacher is amazed by the fact that little children under the Hitler regime were being asked a question like “If each Jew costs the government so much per month, how much would the government save if they kill so many Jews?” which makes the people at the table open their mouths in disbelief of that kind of questions and she says something like “Exactly! They are indeed a special race (or more inteligent)” or something like that. I say that school district should be fine big time that. We say there are no stupid questions, but there are and there are stupid people too.
Posted by: Eduardo | January 8, 2012, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Yes its the truth about the past, unfortunately. However, this is too inappropriate for 3rd graders! Yes slavery went on for hundreds of years, but even if you are trying to incorporate history with math, the avg THIRD GRADER won’t be able to grasp the full concept of slavery in his/her brain! And won’t this stir up controversy between the kids? Black boy/gir to white boy/girll: your people beat mine so now I get to beat you! Here’s another one. White boy/girl to black boy/girl: haha, you were beaten, cause you’re dirty and nasty. TRUST ME, I’ve seen it happen so many times! I’ve been in that situation before. I’m from the south, and its ugly! This is just sickening.
Posted by: Sarai | January 8, 2012, 12:44 am 12:44 am
I think that some of you are getting a little off track with the comments. I find these questions very offensive and I am WHITE. I am also from one of the Southern States. This is crap if my child was to bring this home on their homework I would want to smack the teacher. Their is still racism in our country today and it is not just black and white. Slavery is over it is history and that is where it needs to stay. I love the other comments about How many slaves were slod bfore the age of ten. If your going to try to put 2 subjects together make sure you use all the facts of history not just part of them.
Posted by: concerned parent | January 8, 2012, 12:45 am 12:45 am
WHO CARES. The crap in school is so boring that it’s hard to learn. Everything is so dry and uninteresting. This adds some fun and entertainment in education, which every student needs. The only thing that students get from schools these days is stress….and then more stress and more stress. I actually find this quite refreshing.
Posted by: John | January 8, 2012, 1:46 am 1:46 am
UNBELIEVABLE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HASN’T DONE AWAY WITH THESE KINDS OF INAPROPRIATE MATH QUESTIONS. THIS IS 2012 PEOPLE! WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS. UNBELIEVABLE. EVEN FOR GEORGIA.
Posted by: Alex | January 8, 2012, 2:23 am 2:23 am
This story made be LOL big time. Since when is slavery racist? Typical liberals trying to bring race into something to keep the controversy alive!
Posted by: Bojangles | January 8, 2012, 2:25 am 2:25 am
The biggest thing about teaching slavery to children is to make sure they realize that it is wrong. It is wrong to own another human being. If you teach it in a math problem, you are tacitly accepting that slavery is ok. I.E. the question about oranges. If so many slaves… This phrasing, like any word problem, makes the children assume there are slave, for this is the “given” part of the problem. The same with the beatings problem. These issues are too adult for young children, and I honestly think they would be offensive or threatening to younger children.
Posted by: Phil | January 8, 2012, 4:24 am 4:24 am
This is a complete outrage. Fire the teacher responsible for these questions. This smacks of ignorance and insensitivity. So glad I don’t live in the South. How did the black students in the class feel about these questions?
Posted by: pearl | January 8, 2012, 6:16 am 6:16 am
Grooming all those non-thinking young voters.
Posted by: newcountryman | January 8, 2012, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Whoever set these questions should be fired.
No excuses. No “explanations”.
Posted by: Perspective rules | January 8, 2012, 6:23 am 6:23 am
Slavery and the orange picking event happened in the past. Therefore, past tense is appropriate because the tree had 56 oranges on it back in the past when there were slaves around to pick them.”
Except that PICK is the present tense of a verb. Didn’t go to that school by any chance did you?
Posted by: Duoscool | January 8, 2012, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Well….its news alright!
Posted by: Tomt | January 8, 2012, 7:09 am 7:09 am
I’ve been an educator for 35 years. This is disgusting. I agree that the person(s) responsible for such stupidity should be replaced by someone with an ounce of sense. People with that kind of insensitivity should NOT be in a position to influence children (or adults).
Posted by: Les | January 8, 2012, 7:36 am 7:36 am
I wouldn’t have believed it but here it is in black and white……..I want to know where this came from and who is responsible for this horrible, insane and insulting racist crap……..This school district is broken in the worst possible way………Nothing less than a full investigation will be acceptable…. …..What else is going on in the class room ? Find it and fix it, now………….
Posted by: Jim | January 8, 2012, 7:49 am 7:49 am
“Crossing curriculums???” Exactly what CONTENT regarding “social studies” is being communicated in this homework? Merely mentioning a WORD used in social studies (ie, “slave” or “beating”) does not achieve the “crossing” of curriculums! Would I be successfully “crossing” english with physics if I merely mentioned the word “proton” or “electron” in an poem? I can’t believe these “teachers” graduated from college! Are these the same teachers protesting because they might have to contribute 1 or 2% of their insurance/pension?
Posted by: AJ | January 8, 2012, 7:54 am 7:54 am
The sad thing about this is if you tell a kid that he is inferior and if you do it long enough, he begins to believe it. A good teacher and a good school system should be teaching these kids that by doing the hard work and applying themselves, they can be anything in the world they want to be. The payoff of this would be less people on welfare and dependent on others and you do this regardless of the color of their skin, sexual orientation or religion. Do you all realize that in a few short years that the white race will be a minority? Maybe then you will sadly understand that being jerks is the only thing you have left to hold onto. And I, FYI am a white person.
Posted by: howdymo1 | January 8, 2012, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Schools in the U.S. are run by the Goverment, “Leave NO child behind”, Bush said, to the public, but what was done was we just left them All behind, After all it takes less to control someone that isnt as smart. Maybe someday soon we too can be become one of them there moslums like the present dent. What ya all think? Just My thinking, don’t take it personally.
IT SEEMS in theU.S.
ONE MUST
Fear your goverment, becouse your goverment has NO fear of YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Garold | January 8, 2012, 8:28 am 8:28 am
y’know what? I think these slaves were in Egypt picking oranges as the other slaves built the pyramids. And most of those slave owners were (Gasp!)….black. And the orange picking slaves being beaten were white. Gosh, try as hard as I might, I just can’t work up any false indignation or fake outrage. Must not be cut out to be a liberal.
Posted by: Libwatch | January 8, 2012, 8:40 am 8:40 am
THe best part about this whole thing is people need to grow up. I think that there are more important things that we need to worry about in schools. Also relieze that slavery WASNT just in the US. Also its been over for how many years thats what I thought stop acting as if it is messing up your life and get over it. Back to the homework thing as I said its really not that big of a deal start worring about how to fix the lack of students who make it out with a good education. I say if people have to spice up the lesson plans do it if it gets the student to learn. All you parents that let your kids watch and play all these video games with killing and stealing and fighting is that any different than a lesson plan that doesnt say anything about the race of the slave nor the race of the guy being beat please think before saying anything else and just be glad your child is doing their homework
Posted by: Jmg11 | January 8, 2012, 8:46 am 8:46 am
E looks like su’m foowl got trolled like a bee-yatch, Holla!
Posted by: DiggerNick | January 8, 2012, 9:06 am 9:06 am
KKK enrollment must be down. Time to recruit!! This is atrocious! The educators who were involved in preparing and distributing this test should be fired. There is no excuse, No, oh we meant nothing by it. These people have no place teaching children. Frightening!
Posted by: mbriggs | January 8, 2012, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Department of Communication and Media Relations Sloan Roach, Executive Director
678-301-6020 / fax: 678-301-6030 (Instructional Support Center)
Office of the Governmental Liaison/Community Ombudsman David McCleskey (Part-Time) 678-301-7319 / fax: 678-301-7326 (Instructional Support Center)
Posted by: Klick Konner | January 8, 2012, 9:31 am 9:31 am
if fred gets two beatings a day he should call the dept of family services.
Posted by: laurie | January 8, 2012, 9:42 am 9:42 am
While the questions are inappropriate and pointless, there is nothing racial here at all. It NEVER mentions race whatsoever anywhere. Just about every country in the world at some point in history endured some sort of slavery
Posted by: david | January 8, 2012, 9:51 am 9:51 am
If there would have been other test questions such as “If Master White enjoys raping 3 slaves a night and 1 during the day, how many slaves did he rape in one week?” would the not-black people be upset? I think so. This test question makes it seem like slaveowners are rapists and that they enjoy raping because it is done repeatedly. I do not think the non-black, aka White, people would like this. I also think that this type of question would support the telling the truth about slavery argument as we have seen posted here.
Another argument we have seen here is about the cross-curriculum argument. I attempted to find the lesson blown up to read the other questions but why weren’t general American history questions asked as well. “If Betsy Ross made 3 flags a day in a week, how many stars and stripes did she make in a month?” If these types of questions were on there it would support that argument.
I think the truth is that these teachers probably really didn’t think that Black parents did homework with their children so they didn’t care if anyone saw the questions. They probably thought it would be funny to have little black kids answering the questions.
Posted by: Craisin | January 8, 2012, 9:54 am 9:54 am
To those in favor of the questions swith the questions, I ask you this…
Suppose that a sex ed teacher and a math teacher devised similar questions. Or, suppose that a religion teacher and a math teacher devised similar questions. I’ll spare this forum the questions that we came up with…. Especially in the case of religion, it wouldn’t take too long and we would hear the words: bigot, zealot, and extremist coming out of your mouths.
If we follow the logic of those in favor — “all these teachers are doing is attempting broaden our children’s perspective.” How wonderful. This mentality shows a complete lack of judgement on multiple levels.
Posted by: FirstQ | January 8, 2012, 10:16 am 10:16 am
All you have to do is go to Google, “Gwinnett County Public Schools” to get all sorts of numbers, so you can register proper complaints with the people responsible. A bunch of backward morons…
This is hard to believe in America, in 2012. And Sloan Roach, who is interviewed on camera, is the Queen Moron!
Posted by: Klick Konner | January 8, 2012, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Well, We are talking about the state of Georgia, need we say more.
Posted by: Victor | January 8, 2012, 10:22 am 10:22 am
This is the lib recipe for creating “Occupy” types. Instead of teaching them to compete in society, they’re taught to angrily blame society for their failure. These are mostly black kids who are being taught to be society’s beggars and Dem voters. It makes me want to puke.
Posted by: shovelready randy | January 8, 2012, 10:29 am 10:29 am
-NORMAN “Truth be told white people dont want to remember thier history, only when it seem justified to them” Norman, it reads as though you may be a racist against white people for your ignorant comment, as if all white people in America have the exact same beliefs. Grow up and stop reliving the past and hating white people. And last to DAVID, your comment was equally ignorant, and you may be a racist as well. Stop assuming. Why would white people take offense to the “slave owner’s are rapist” scenario? It is a fact of history as well. Also, none of us were alive then and had nothing to do with slavery, but black people look at us(white people) like we are responsible. No we are not, the government of that time was for allowing it to be legal. I guess there are racist people of all color……
Posted by: James | January 8, 2012, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Hahahaha.
Posted by: Jason | January 8, 2012, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Come on people!!! This is an honest attempt at creative learning! At first I was taken back, but then I really understood that these teachers are doing more good than harm. It gives the students a very good VISUAL of the HISTORY they would normally gloss over in their soc studies. A word problem enable the student to repeat, vidualize, and come up with the answer. As they are doing this particular set of problems, they are going to internalize exactly HOW wrong Fred’s life was. Hence, they will get a real good history lesson as the solve otherwise mundane arithmetic. Lighten up, we are ALL minorities and you should be MORE worried about how oppressed EVERYONE in the world CURRENTLY is…let’s do a math problem: There are 7 billion slaves in the world who consume way too many resources. The There are about 500 million so-called royals or global leaders that want and need these global natural resources. 1hat would be the quickest way to eliminate 7 billion useless eaters? That”s what I thought…WAKE UP, sheeple!!!
Posted by: chrissy dc | January 8, 2012, 10:53 am 10:53 am
The teacher should have used grade appropriate language…….the slaves got into trouble…….but as I think about it, I am sure she could have ” crossed curriculum” in some other fashion. If twenty slaves escaped every day for a month, how many would be free by the end of the month?
Posted by: Barry W | January 8, 2012, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Come on people!!! This is an honest attempt at creative learning! At first I was taken back, but then I really understood that these teachers are doing more good than harm. It gives the students a very good VISUAL of the HISTORY they would normally gloss over in their soc studies. A word problem enable the student to repeat, visualize, and come up with the answer. As they are doing this particular set of problems, they are going to internalize exactly HOW wrong Fred’s life was. Hence, they will get a “real” good history lesson as the solve otherwise mundane arithmetic. Lighten up, we are ALL minorities and you should be MORE worried about how oppressed EVERYONE in the world CURRENTLY is…let’s do a math problem: There are 7 billion slaves, uh, I mean, humans, in the world who consume way too many resources. Then there are about 500 million so-called royals or global leaders that want and need these global natural resources. What would be the quickest way to eliminate 7 billion useless eaters? That’s what I thought…WAKE UP, sheeple!!!
Posted by: chrissy dc | January 8, 2012, 10:55 am 10:55 am
All you have to do is go to Google, “Gwinnett County Public Schools” and “Superintendent’s Office” to get all sorts of numbers, so you can register proper complaints with the people responsible.
A bunch of backward morons…
This is hard to believe in America, in 2012. And Sloan Roach, who is interviewed on camera, is the Queen Moron!
Google the following;
Department of Communication and Media Relations Sloan Roach, Executive Director
She is quoted on camera in ABC’s report. ABC is restricting my posts, so you have to look it up yourself.
Posted by: Klick Konner | January 8, 2012, 10:57 am 10:57 am
HE SHOULD BE FIRED FOR BEING A JERK, HE KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING, ANY TEACHER THAT HAS WASTED THIER EDUCATION ON SOMETHING SO RUTHLUESS SHOULD BE HANGING WITH AN APPLE IN HIS BIG MOUTH. GOD BLESS HIS LOUSY SOUL, HE WILL NEED A JOB SOON. FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRED HIS BUTT.
Posted by: DeBora Ansley | January 8, 2012, 11:05 am 11:05 am
If Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery AND of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
blacks and whites, BLACKS COMMIT 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent. To what degree do the majority of blacks need to be removed from society?
Posted by: Jeff | January 8, 2012, 11:06 am 11:06 am
“….and for today’s current history and math lesson, students, solve this problem: Jose robs three stores on Monday and three more on Tuesday. If he continues at this rate, how many stores will he have robbed by Friday? Oh, you’d like a problem a little more difficult? OK, then boys and girls, let’s look at Dorita, Velveeta and Chiquita…..” Are you kidding me? Were these teachers seeing the larger picture or have they been distracted by all of the requirements on schools today? Is this the result of the PC cultural sensitivity atmosphere, anti bullying programs, gay recognition rights, federal assessment performance mandates, funding problems, etc.? Where did common sense go?
Posted by: oubaddog | January 8, 2012, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I am white middle class male born 1952, college educated. So much for me. Slavery was a part of our history; however there are things that our children should know but should be presented at the proper developmental stage, and in an appropriate manner. Would we teach children in the 3rd grade about the concentration camps ? If you answer yes, then do we also teach them about the horrible experiments done in those camps ? If you answer yes, then do you also teach them in the 3rd grade the details of these? I hope not. Do they need to know ? Of course, but at the appropriate time. Should our children know of the atrocities during the indian wars ? Sure, but do we tell them as third graders the details? If you believe so then read I Left My Heart at Wounded Knee and answer that question again. Should the board fire the teacher ? That is another discussion altogether.
Posted by: Bruce | January 8, 2012, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Quite frankly, what I find appuling about this is that there are people on this fourm that think this is acceptable. Imagine if instead the questions were “John has sex with three women a day, and one in 10 women have an STD. How long should it take for John to contract an STD?” Would you be offended? I fail to see how desensitizing children to sex is worse than desensitizing them to slavery. I would rather see a sex obsessed society, than one that is ok with slavery any day of the week.
Posted by: Josh | January 8, 2012, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
I’m going to have to side with most people on here in asking WHERE is the “racism”? NOWHERE in this article nor the questions did I see anything pertaining to a particular group’s skin color!
Now, could other historical facts been asked? Of course. But there is NO racism in what was used.
Posted by: Common Sense | January 8, 2012, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
“KKK enrollment must be down. Time to recruit!! This is atrocious! The educators who were involved in preparing and distributing this test should be fired. There is no excuse, No, oh we meant nothing by it. These people have no place teaching children. Frightening!
Posted by: mbriggs | January 8, 2012, 9:20 am 9:20 am”
Why don’t you get your facts straight. There are MORE KKK groups IN THE NORTH!
Posted by: @Mr. Briggs | January 8, 2012, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
“Well, We are talking about the state of Georgia, need we say more.
Posted by: Victor | January 8, 2012, 10:22 am 10:22 am”
Oh please, like ANY city/state is sparkling clean? Would you say the same statement had this been Florida, NY, California, Hawaii?
Posted by: @Victor | January 8, 2012, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
reverse racism ,keep it up
Posted by: jon casey | January 8, 2012, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
LOL! That is wrong, but funny.
Posted by: kevin | January 8, 2012, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
History is history – the past. Often times its ugly and incorporates all colors of humans that inhabit Earth. Slavery & beatings have happened to all the colors. When do we get past COLOR & RACE and think in terms of humans. People/humans come in all colors and all races. Throughout history, attrocities have happened to all colors & races – to place “more has happened to MY color & race” is ridiculous. Lets see, had the question been rearranged to all the nicknames for Jewish, Indians, Italians, Irish, Hispanic, etc etc – would it had passed without notice? I am neither black or white – I am BEIGE. When can we stop assigning COLOR to people? When can we get past the importance of race and where your 100+ years ago ancestors came from?? You were born in United States – you are an American. Born somewhere else and became a citizen – then you can use your prior nationality. Lets see, that makes me a BEIGE Philippino-American. I wish we could stop constantly using African/American or start letting everybody add their country of choice to be hyphenated in front of American.
Posted by: Terry Perrone | January 8, 2012, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
“Well, We are talking about the state of Georgia, need we say more.
Posted by: Victor | January 8, 2012, 10:22 am —–I’ll take Georgia over California any day.
Posted by: darla | January 8, 2012, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I went back and re-read the story and watched the video clip after reading all of the comments. I think that a lot of people have made the assumption that a white teacher or white school board members wrote this. I can’t find anything that states that fact. I know this area of Gwinnett County and I can assure you that whites are a minority (about 5 or 10%) in this area and many of the surrounding school districts. You can research it if you do not believe me. The schools are usually listed as 60% black, 10% white, and 30% “other”. I really can’t understand why the catagory of other as it should probably read 25% hispanic and 5% other. In any event, the majority of teachers in these districts are also black. Is it possible that a black teacher or black school board member(s) who pick the subject matter did this because they want to keep white hate alive????? Just asking because it seems reasonable.
Posted by: MAGGIE | January 8, 2012, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
So then why cant the problem read “how many beatings did Jesus have to endure?”
Posted by: JustSaying | January 8, 2012, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
I say that the Social Studies Teacher AND the Math Teacher need to take their rightful place in the Unemployment line ~ IMMEDIATELY!
Posted by: Johnny Popp in Los Anhgeles | January 8, 2012, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
And people actually try to make the argument that racism is over in America!
Posted by: Jean Tampabay bay | January 8, 2012, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
This was so heinus that I can not describe my disbelief. As a person who has been in the middle of racist environments, on the job, it is no wonder we are still at war with other races than our own. I think that the lessons of the Holocaust, slavery, civil rights, etc all should never be forgotten and addressed in the appropriate context. I am still so incredibly unable to reconcile this total disregard for history and lessons learned. Would you send home a biology test asking, “what would happen if you tied two cats to a rope and slung them over a clothesline?”
Posted by: Karem | January 8, 2012, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Crazy
Posted by: Grey | January 8, 2012, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Referencing slavery is racist? really? It certainly isn’t the subject matter for third grade math, but it isn’t really racist, considering slavery has happened to a majority of the races on earth. This isn’t racist, it’s just stupid.
Posted by: Kevin | January 8, 2012, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
People. The school is only 5% white. The principle is Hispanic. The school is mostly Black and Hispanic and many if not most of the teachers are too. 47% of the school is considered “non english proficient” which means many didn’t even know what the word “slave” even meant. So, why didn’t the press interview the teacher, or the school principle, instead of just the superintendent? Well, maybe because they aren’t doing their job well enough, or they want to make a lot of implications that this is a whites vs blacks matter in the Old South, etc. Get a clue and quit making idiots out of yourselves publicly and quit perpetuating the false image the left wing media is trying to create. Just show us the black teacher who did it so all this can die down like all left wing media inspired controversy can die back down.
Posted by: James D | January 8, 2012, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I wonder how the math teacher would feel if an English teacher at the school gave the following homework assignment: “A math teacher at the school gave the following problems as homework (insert problems here). Some people see this as being rascist and others see it as being stupid. Your assignment is to decide whether you think this was rascism or stupidity, and then write a paragraph to explain your answer.” Let’s see this would be incorporating Current Events (news article), history (explaining slavery, rascism), ethics…and so on. This was RIDICULOUS on so many levels. And, as a retired math teacher of 32 years I am totally appalled!!!!
Posted by: Rae Smith | January 8, 2012, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
As a third grade teacher myself, I would have never used any kind of questions like these! I’m shocked that any educator would think this is ok. There are many more effective ways to teach history and math without using these problems. I’m horrified. I’m a parent also and would be mortified if my daughter brought this home!
Posted by: Amy | January 8, 2012, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
This is just appalling!!! if they wanted to combine social studies and math, they could ask questions like “There’s 88 countries in the world. If 12 speak english as their main language, how many countries do not speak english?”
I have no idea if those numbers are correct so before people go look them up and tell me I’m wrong, yeah, i know.
Posted by: David | January 8, 2012, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
One more time; Fred lives in a town with a population of 12,000. If Fred is one of the 1%, how many SOB’s live in Fred’s town?
Posted by: newcountryman | January 8, 2012, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Well the bible is all for slavery and stoning so what’s the prob?
Posted by: YankeeRay | January 8, 2012, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Two prostitutes each see 10 johns a night, one has a pimp….
Posted by: Marlene Dotzler | January 8, 2012, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
if these questions are o.k how about this for the ugly truth……….if 3 illegal aliens cross the border and each have three anchor babies… over the next 2 years how much tax money is spent on all illegals
Posted by: redeye | January 8, 2012, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
This shows the lack of respect that other races have for the Black and African American community it is past the time that we as a people unite and be as strong as we were when our lives depended on us sticking together I am a business man I make my money by buying local businesses in the part of town I grew up and giving people jobs I support my people all the way. It is time for us to rise to our once glorious time.
From Chicago,IL West side
Posted by: Tyree Broadnax | January 8, 2012, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Most of Georgia is very red. Gwinett county is very “blue”. Doesn’t surprise me.
Posted by: newcountryman | January 8, 2012, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Why ALL White Countries and ONLY White Countries have to accept Mass-Non-White immigration?
No one says we need to “Diversify” Africa
No one says we need to “Diversify” Asia
No one says we need to Diversify Non-White areas because they are already 100% “Diversified”
It’s not Diversity, This is WHITE GENOCIDE
Posted by: Mike | January 8, 2012, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
In your opinion, do Black people have a right to their own countries in Africa and the Carribean? Nigeria is 99% Black, are the Nigerians obligated to “assimilate” with millions of non-Blacks to solve the “race problem”? Or is it only White people who you demand be blended out of existence in our own countries? Are you only anti-White, or do you want Black Genocide also? Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
Posted by: Zrinski | January 8, 2012, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Hey folks, this is history. And a great way to make it real for the kids. Look how the adults are reacting, this is real, it happened. So many people are denying that the Nazi’s ever killed Jews. Do we want our children believing that concentration camps are a myth? Do we want them to believe that America never legalized slavery? Or believing that women were always allowed to vote and receive equal pay? We need them to know the truth so that they can grow up and make sure that nothing like this ever happens again;. in America or else where.
Take the opportunity presented and use it to educate our children.
Posted by: Brandy Smith | January 8, 2012, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Though poorly the question was poorly worded, alluding to history is not racist! What a ridiculous accusation. Should we just pretend that slavery never existed in this country? The parent who wanted his child to remain ignorant of it is the fool here, not the teacher who assigned these problems.
Posted by: ratgirl | January 8, 2012, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
I find these offensive but not racist. No where in any of the questions does it mention race. I did not connect the beating question to slavery, I viewed it as abuse at home. Regardless, the topics of slavery and abuse are not something that should introduced in a light context.
Posted by: Harry | January 8, 2012, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White Countries for Everyone
There will still be Africans in Africa. There will still be Asians in Asia. But my race is set to be blended out of existence through mass immigration and forced assimilation.
That’s genocide.
This is happening in ALL white countries and ONLY white countries.
This is genocide through racial replacement.
Wake up and fight the system!
Posted by: Zrinski | January 8, 2012, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Why do Africans think they are the only slaves in history? Jews were slaves too, you know. How many Jews are upset by these questions? Slavery happened. It happened to a lot of people & even happens to people today. Unless YOU were a slave, shut up.
Posted by: dumbo | January 8, 2012, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for this. You cannot tell me that a teacher reading this would not have found it offensive themselves & if not, they don’t have the brains to teach anyone’s child … white, black or any ethnicity. As for the excuse of cross referencing, nice try, but NOT BUYING WHAT YOU’RE SELLING. Teach slavery issues in a social studies class, and try to get it right.
Posted by: eve marie | January 8, 2012, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
“The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don’t do anything about it”. – Albert Einstein ‘This is relative’.
Posted by: HARRIET | January 8, 2012, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
If two teachers do something inappropriate and stupid and their union defends them, how many students lose?
Posted by: LagunaTriMom | January 9, 2012, 12:49 am 12:49 am
It burns me up that this story got the attention it did. They said they were cross teaching. It should have stopped there and the national press should not have picked this bogus story up to race bate like it has. Schools have done cross teaching for years and I could tell as soon as I saw this what they were trying to do. Shame on everybody for just assuming these teachers are bad. The press needs to get some class, but evidently they love to crank up the race war.
Posted by: lexingtonlady | January 9, 2012, 1:30 am 1:30 am
It is stories like these that make people think ill of teachers.
Posted by: rock | January 9, 2012, 2:03 am 2:03 am
there’s a right way to combine the subjects and wrong way, this is just so wrong(funny, but wrong). For the ones that are ok with it we should try these problems with other applications…..How about Hitlers gas chambers holds 300 Jews, if he has 5 gas chambers, how many Jews can he kill at once?? or how about Crucifying Jeus requires 3 nails, you only have 1 nail….how many more nails do you need???
Posted by: Avi | January 9, 2012, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!
Mass immigration and “assimilation” forced ONLY on white countries= WHITE GENOCIDE!
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
Posted by: GregJofski | January 9, 2012, 9:59 am 9:59 am
The teacher should be relieved of any license to teach and the whole school administtration should be fired. It is unacceptable in our society today to have anything like that presented to our children. Let the parties slide and it happens again and again. People brush it off. If the consequences were more serious things like this would happen less…..
Posted by: tebb47 | January 9, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am
It’s amusing to see the comments from people saying this is why we need to abolish the dept. of education, that the administrators should all be fired, etc. If you actually watch the video, you will learn that these problems were made up by the teachers. They did not come from administrators, the district or the dept of education. This is exactly what happens when you cut “the bureaucracy” and give states and districts free rein to do whatever they want. The problems in the country such as the mortgage mess, oil spills and the wall street meltdown can all be traced back to lack of regulation, not big government.
Posted by: Ignorance | January 9, 2012, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Some of you are simply contrarians. This is not okay. It’s not necessary, it’s disrespectful, and it’s STUPID for a teacher to hand out this homework. History needs to be taught, absolutely, but a math worksheet that is utilizing these examples as a practice for everyday application is just WRONG.
Posted by: Jenni | January 9, 2012, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
this is absolutely unacceptable!!! This is wrong on so many levels. I cannot believe they had the audacity to include such content in student assignments. This needs to be addressed at a much higher level than the school board officials. It’s always “better to ask for forgiveness, than permission”. If this type of ignorance is easily dismissed, expect other educational institutions to do the samething, but in a much subtle way. . Open your eyes people!!!
Posted by: Michelle | January 9, 2012, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
I don’t see anything that specifies what race the slaves were or what time period the slavery took place. Does anyone see anything that specifies race, location or time period?
Posted by: Giant Chicken Weasel | January 9, 2012, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
I am outraged by this. Not only these homework comments, but to the postings I have read here. Equal for all, north south, east and west, regardless of color. Or did I miss something? It is ok to teach math and incorporate social studies into word problems, but some teacher should have had discretion and re-worked the problems. Any good teacher would have. I know I would have and I would have copied and protested this worksheet to my building principal and superintendant. I never would have given this to any student. I am a teacher. I know equality. I’m not from the south, I’m from the north. Anyone that feels that these types of questions are okay to be given to young impressionable minds is an arrogant ignorant person. To the one that stated “I’m more interested in seeing if the kids came up with the correct answers” Are you kidding me?!?!!!!! What type of person are you. Any student can perform basic math if they are taught correctly in an warm and supportive environment that is condusive to learning. Also… these types of questions would never be asked in this manner on a standardized test. SHAME on the district. I hope they get fined and sued!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mickey Rourke | January 9, 2012, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
I’ve been reading these posts. I feel like I just got off the bus at a mental institution.
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | January 9, 2012, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
To Giant Chicken Weasel.. anyone with half a brain will know that the Frederick referred to is Frederick Douglass. What other country would talk about slaves and beatings? Don’t add insult to injury!!!
Posted by: Mickey Rorke | January 9, 2012, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
You know what I see here? A bunch of people outraged about something that didn’t happen to them, while holding someone responsible for it despite the fact that they didn’t do it.
Since we’re placing blame here, I’d like to take a moment to point something out: There were far more Africans than there were slavers. If the Africans had got it in their minds that they didn’t want strangers taking people, they were more than capable of putting a stop to it. The white slavers didn’t usually just wander into the African jungle and grab people at random. These guys usually PAID the tribal leaders for them.
Some things never change, right?
Posted by: AmericaThePitiful | January 9, 2012, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
And we wonder why we our educational system is rated so much lower than many other first-world countries. Yes, the horrible actions in history should be taught to all students – lest we forget the lessons we should be learning from the past. Yes, these issues should be taught at an age where the students can cognitively understand the context in which it occurred. Randomly throwing poorly written, demeaning questions into a math test is just ignorant. I don’t care if the teacher in question is white, black, purple, or pink polka dotted. That doesn’t affect the lack of age or context inappropriateness. I agree with other commentors that there are many, many other scenarios that could have been incorporated into the test that would have accomplished the same integrated teaching goals, without creating yet another reason to mock the U.S., and especially southern-states’, educational systems.
Posted by: RedStatesShouldSecede | January 9, 2012, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
ok so everyone thinks that the civil war was over slavery but it wasnt there are even some tachers who thiink this but it was over states rights slavery just got pulled into it and if you want to get technical whites did not steal land from the blacks it was the indians. slaves got brought over from afica hence african americans due to where their ancestors came from. also slaves have been around for as long as man has white black hispanic asain indian and other races not just from the era of the civil war had taken slaves look at ww1 and 2 prisoners of war they were of all races. if the school wanted to cross history and math without causing a uproar then they should have asked ” when the southern sates suceded from the northern states how many years/ months between each states sucesion was there?” i am white not racist if my chld brought hme these problems and asked “mommy what is a slave i would tell them someone who is or was held against their will and worked for lttle or no money it is a dark part of our history but history is in the past not present and a slave can be any race.” i would not blow it out of the water i would also ell them to ask their teacher
Posted by: heres the thing | January 9, 2012, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Americathepitiful, your history facts are not accurate. Tribal leaders didn’t sell their own people. Warring tribes would catch and turn over their ‘enemies’, much as other countries did all the way back in ancient history. It might surprise you to know Africa isn’t one big country, just like Europe and Asia, there are different countries and cultural groups within them.
No one complaining about those idiotic questions on the math assignment is re-complaining about slavery, but the stupidity of putting questions about the unpleasantness of slavery in a casual math problem for 3rd graders.
In my opinion, serious, horrible subjects like our history of slavery should not be taught in detail until 6th grade at least.
Posted by: Librarian53 | January 9, 2012, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Here’s another thought….it doesn’t really say slavery in the beatings question, so what if the children think it was about the little kid who lives down the street, named Frederick or Samuel or Benjamin, who gets beatings regularly. They might think that this is normal, because it is showing up in a math problem.
It is 2012 and we are still dealing with such incredible ignorance…and from our teachers????…omg!
Posted by: P Marvel | January 9, 2012, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
What I have to wonder is why anyone assumes that these slaves were black…As if slavery is confined to US History. Perhaps Hebrew people should start getting upset because their people were enslaved at some point. Sure…I get it. We shouldn’t be talking about slavery in a math class…but I also get it that slavery was a problem and still is a problem for many people today. Perhaps the moral of this story is that there are a lot of people out there who are unwilling to accept the “slavery” problem and there are even more who are unwilling to attempt to solve it.
Posted by: David | January 9, 2012, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
This is an outrage! Where on Earth could this happen in this day and age? Oh Georgia? never mind.
Posted by: Art | January 9, 2012, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Cross-curricular? Really? That’s their excuse for stupidity? What’s worse is that they probably thought it was funny.
Posted by: Taintedbylies | January 9, 2012, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
I don’t understand what all the outrage is about. This is one of the biggest problems in the black community. We are always up in arms about what someone says or writes about us. I wish we would have this much passion when test score in our schools are the same as if they guessed the answer. If this was my child, the only question I would ask him is did you get the answer correct and he got it wrong them he would have a big problem.
Posted by: sadindetroit | January 9, 2012, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
What the hell is wrong with you damn teachers. Math and history is two different subjects and there are different because they do not need to be mixed together. Black is a race. White is a race. God created us all. God makes no mistakes so can’t we all lessen to get alone. Stop being judgmental. God runs this world not white people. You choose your destination that you will go to after death. Choose wisely. #GodBless
Posted by: Pam | January 9, 2012, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
“Each tree had 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?”
If the tree “HAD” 56 oranges, they must have fallen down to the ground. Then who knows how much oranges and dirt the slaves would like to pick from the ground? However; if the oranges was picked by others then it’s nothing to pick neither from the tree or ground.
Posted by: Steinar Hansen | January 10, 2012, 5:31 am 5:31 am
Given that the school is mostly non-white, I would imagine these questions, if anything, were aimed at promoting racism against white people. I doubt even that though, I think they were just tie-ins to other things the students were learning at the time and were pulled out of context. What I find truly amusing here is that there is no reference to time period, country, or ethnicities in any of these problems. There’s no slant to them. They’re very straightforward. The questions are inappropriate, for sure, but the only racist interpretation I can get out of them given their context within the Gwinnet public school system, is anti-white, but that’s a hell of a stretch. What’s even more amusing than that, is that people are complaining about racism being so horrible, but they have no problem throwing a whole state of Americans under the bus as a bunch of ignorant, racist hillbillies, which I think is the REAL aim of the article. The South is a lot more complex than that.
Posted by: Kyle | January 10, 2012, 6:57 am 6:57 am
I don’t view these questions as cross curricular. I see this as subliminal messages to our young that slavery and beatings are normal, which is a bad way to teach. That’s why there’s so many more children that are being home schooled. The person who created these math problems should be fired.
Posted by: kunstank | January 10, 2012, 8:16 am 8:16 am
someone mentioned blacks committing crimes more than whites.
pls consider that maybe blacks are wrongly accused and arrested more than we are?
just a thought.
final analysis, the choice subject was absolutely wrong for a math class no matter what color the slaves might have been, but lets be honest -we all know they were talking about Black slaves.
Posted by: hhuh? | January 10, 2012, 11:39 am 11:39 am
School districts have this thing for cross-curriculum. My husband is a math teacher and has to somehow incorporate other subjects into trig and calc. I’m sure this teacher did this out of spite and I’m really glad it happened. Maybe it could help show how stupid the idea of forced cross-curriculum is, especially when it comes to math.
Posted by: H | January 10, 2012, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
This is mind blowing stuff, as a Norwegian living in the states it furies me and breaks my heart.
This person or people who made this should be fired and put to trial.
I’m baffled after listening to the schools respond and excuse for this math assignment.
This is cruel to “desensitize” an extremely important subject and history as slavery into kids math assignments, like wise beatings? What have beatings to do into it too?
What’s next? ” if Linda’s mom made $300- $500 a night at the strip club, how much would she make aproxamently a month after lindas mom paid $100 a rent a week for the trailer they lived in and?” next assignment ; ” Linda’s moms boyfriend drinks 3 6 packs of beer each day and each pack cost $5, how much must Linda’s mom pay for her boyfriends beer a month?” or ‘” Linda’s mom and Linda get beat up by Linda’s moms boyfriend 3 times a day, how much beatings do they get each a year?” this is outrageous and does not fit into any math assignment.
Disappointing and narrow minded cruel, super racist and dehumanizing teaching for future generations! We as people are BETTER than this, enough is enough!
Posted by: Solfrid ormbostad | January 10, 2012, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
First of all, everyone needs to get their facts straight before they make a post about anything they see, including ABC News. The math problem given to the children was created by ONE teacher. Secondly, not all teachers gave the problem to the students, it was actually 4 teachers out of 9 who did. The other 5 did nothing wrong at all and didn’t hand this worksheet out. Hell, they didn’t even look at the sheet because most lessons written by other teachers and passed on are ever really used, they have their own lesson plans. I’m not saying that the problem sheet given out was ethical, what I am saying is that everyone is so quick to judge a group of people, even the media, when no one has their facts straight. Blame the ONE person who created this worksheet and reprimand the other THREE teachers, but don’t come down on the entire school or other teachers at the school who had nothing to do with this because of 4 ignorant people. Get your facts straight and learn to do better investigative reporting ABC.
Posted by: Scuba13 | January 10, 2012, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Just in time for Black History Month at many schools around the country. Does this mean January was White History Month? Or is that some other month?
Posted by: Jimmy D | January 10, 2012, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
This story is so sad. I am an educator and I would not present any type of information to students regarding race or religion in a home assignment. I believe all the teachers involved with this assignment should removed from their positions at this time because their poor decision making ability that affected several students, parents, the trust in the other teachers and school district. By removing the four teachers involve will send a strong message to the community that the school district is serious about managing racial issues and inappropriate educators. There are so many excellent teachers who are unemployed and are searching for a job, why allowing these individuals to make another mistake on a homework assignment again
Posted by: KKB | January 12, 2012, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Yep, I get the part about combining subjects and that the intent was simply to enhance the kids’ learning and retention of the social studies material by incorporating it into math as well. But it should be obvious that the attempt to do this was extremely poorly executed, that making the historic slaves’ humiliation a subject of the same type of cold calculation that their owners probably engaged in would, as one commenter here correctly said, more likely desensitize children to it. It would be one thing if the math problems were centered around highlighting the unfairness to the slaves, like how much their labor was really worth versus what the lodgings and food given them was worth, how many middle-class-suitable homes the plantation owners could buy with their yearly profits vs. how many their workers could buy if they were fairly paid. But as someone else pointed out, a lot of this would still be hard for a lot of third-graders to get their minds around, and a better decision would be just to do something else with the math and perhaps combine social studies with language skills instead.
Posted by: humbill | January 12, 2012, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
UNBELIEVABLE that such low-brow bigotry is being promoted to children like this. People need to be fired . There are so many good people out of work, and anyone who allowed this pure crapolla to pass as history or appropriate does not need to be one of the employed.
Posted by: DC Matthews | January 15, 2012, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
I understand that this was NOT the teachers fault, as they weren’t the ones to write these problems, HOWEVER, if I reviewed this page BEFORE sending it home for homework, I would have opted to personally write out math problems and photocopy enough for the whole class; then, I would have take these papers to whomever is ranked above me, or even taken it back to the district, expressing to them how I would NEVER send those papers out as homework, classwork, WHATEVER!
Posted by: Pamela | January 20, 2012, 1:27 am 1:27 am
It is true that there was no REASON for the teacher or those who approved the assignment to use “slave” “beatings”, etc. to educate the students, however, I am willing to bet there was an AGENDA, and that was to promote hate.
Posted by: Angela | February 1, 2012, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Will people please stop being so ignorant. Slavery is a part of our history in third grade we began learning about the civil war. Don’t hide children from the past let them learn from it. By learning from our mistakes we can improve upon them and make them better in the future. Nothing is more frustrating then seeing a teacher crucified over a simple math assignment because people are to sensitive in this day and age. This is insane to crucify a teacher for actually incorporating history and mathematics into one worksheet. God forbid you have to explain to your children something that happened. What’s next are we going to start hiding the Holocaust, slavery, etc from our younger generations? The softer our society gets the more vulnerable we are to those who withstand a tolerance, and those who accepted their pasts and learned from them. This teacher should not be punished for such an assignment. The parents of these children should be ashamed that they cannot accept America’s history themselves.
Posted by: Tech9 | February 15, 2012, 11:03 am 11:03 am