Amanda Knox’s Slander Trial Moved to Florence

Feb 5, 2013 4:01pm
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Amanda Knox’s slander trial began today in Perugia, Italy, and it ended with another delay.  But Knox’s defense team successfully fought to have the case moved to another jurisdiction.

According to the Italian news agency ANSA, Knox lawyer Carlo Dalla Vedova asked that the trial be moved from Perugia to Florence, arguing that there is a conflict of interest with the prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini.   Dalla Vedova said Mignini, who was present in court today, argued the slander case even though he is one of the parties involved in making the allegation against Knox.

Knox is charged with slander for accusing Mignini and Perugian police for physically and verbally abusing her during a nearly 50 hours interrogation over four days in 2007.   During Knox’s trial in 2009, she testified that police had hit her in the head during questioning.

During the interrogation, Knox made a statement that said she had a “vision” that she was in the house where her roommate, Meredith Kercher, was murdered and that she heard screams.  The statement was ultimately ruled inadmissible by the Supreme Court in Italy.

Kercher was killed in November 2007 in the house she shared with Knox and two Italian women.  In 2009, Knox and her then boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, were convicted of the murder.  Knox was sentenced to 26 years in prison. A local drifter, Rudy Guede, was also convicted in a separate trial.

In 2011, Knox and Sollecito were acquitted and freed after having spent four years in prison.  Guede is serving a 16 year sentence.

Today a judge ruled the slander case be moved to Florence.

Mignini is no stranger to Florence.  In 2010, Mignini was convicted of abuse of office in another case he tried in Florence.  A judge decided that Mignini abused his office by wiretapping journalists and police officials.

The conviction stemmed from a series of killings in Florence — the so-called “Monster of Florence” case — and not the Knox prosecution. But Mignini continued to prosecute the Knox case, despite his own conviction.

In November 2011, the Court of Appeal in Florence overturned Mignini’s conviction for lack of jurisdiction and referred the case to the prosecutor in Turin to decide whether to re-file the charges

Knox returned to Seattle after her acquittal and is writing a book about her ordeal.   Knox’s memoir “Waiting to be Heard” is being published by Harper Collins and is set to be released on April 30, 2013.

 

 

 

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She may have been found “Not guilty” but we all know (apart from some americans who regard her somewhat of a sweet heart) she is NOT INNOCENT. looks play a big role ive noticed in these procedures, especially in the Americans public view. Im pretty sure if she was a fat minority she would be shunned in public. But she has that innocent look about her just like casey anthony… sad.

Posted by: steve | February 5, 2013, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Actually, Steve, Knox was acquitted under the most favorable interpretation of Italian law — for not having committed the crime. In the case of the “staged” burglary, the court ruled her innocent because the crime itself did not exist. There is no evidence that places her anywhere near the crime scene and the real killer, Rudy Guede, is currently serving his sentence for the murder. So Knox is indeed legally and factually innocent.

Posted by: Barney | February 5, 2013, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

I don’t know if she can or can’t be extradited for this slander trial but If I were her I would just stay in the US and not go back to Italy innocent or guilty. Seems to be a trumped up charge anyhow.

Posted by: Tim C | February 5, 2013, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Well, Steve. If you are privy to some damaging information, then by all means, come forward with it. Otherwise, your opinion is just that–opinion. It was the drifter, Guede, who implicated Knox and Sollecito and got just 16 years while they got 26. Guede was the killer.

Posted by: Euro Expat | February 5, 2013, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Come on, Steve. Why do you have to bring up the race card in your comments? Justice is justice no matter what the color of a person’s skin. You are entitled to your opinion, but please, stop with the “fat minority” comments.

Posted by: SteveIsCrazy | February 5, 2013, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Hi Nikki. When are you going to detail for us how you furnished complementary airline tickets, gourmet meals and luxury hotel rooms to the Knox entourage during the trial? What was the final tab? Was it more than the $200,000 your network gave to another female murderer’s family? You are disgusting.

There’s no point in even trying to correct you, since you are not a reality-based person. But for the benefit of others: (1) Prosecutor Mignini is not one of the civil plaintiffs in this slander case, which include about half a dozen police officers and an interpreter. (2) It won’t be hard to prove that Knox has a history of lying under pressure, since an appeals court has already ruled this is true. (3) Knox admits she was treated well by police until the disputed two-hour period beginning shortly before midnight on November 5, 2007. The so-called “50 hours of interrogation” includes all the time during which she was waiting around and touring the crime scene with other housemates. (4) Knox never made a statement during the interrogation that she had a “vision”. Never used that word. Look it up. Since there is no such statement it cannot have been ruled inadmissible by any court. (5) “Local drifter” is an oxymoron, as well as being factually incorrect. Guede was a Perugia native and had lived there, most recently, longer than Knox. (6) Mignini was NOT convicted of abuse of office. He was acquitted of that charge, and on appeal the entire case against him was thrown out on technical grounds. (7) Why shouldn’t Mignini have continued to work while his illegal wiretapping case was under appeal? Knox’s murder case is under appeal and yet the media have no reservations about paying her millions of dollars.

Posted by: brmull | February 5, 2013, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Brnull: Vision? No. She said it was like a dream. Specifically, she had written…………”but I’ve said this many times so as to make myself clear: these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked. ”

No tape of the interrogtion. No slander. Its over. deal with it.

Posted by: wcg1989 | February 5, 2013, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

WCG1989: (1) The letter you are referring to was not part of the interrogation and was never ruled inadmissible by the Supreme Court. (2) No tape of the interrogation doesn’t give Knox blanket immunitiy to make defamatory allegations. A court must hear from the witnesses and determine who is more credible. It will consider her history and her motive to make a false accusation. Italian courts are much more favorable to plaintiffs in defamation cases than they are in the U.S. It’s a serious matter.

Posted by: brmull | February 5, 2013, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

@Steve…Really? I think they’re both dog face ugly. I never, ever understood why some people thought that Amanda Knox was ‘pretty.” WHERE? lol.. And Casey Anthony? For real??? She looks sort of like a horse faced weasel!

Posted by: sherri | February 5, 2013, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

The article is wrong, Mignini was not there. The Police is making allegations against Amanda Knox, Mignini is a State Prosecutor, independent from the Police. Amanda could not have been pressured by Mgnini who did not say anything when she made her declaration.

Posted by: Ludivine | February 5, 2013, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Even the rest of Italy was appalled at this whole situation and knew from the start that Amanda Knox was innocent!

Posted by: Ann | February 5, 2013, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

BR Mull, I’m afraid you grossly underestimate the seriousness of the Abuse of Office charges against Mignini. Remember that he is a public official with the responsibility of protecting us, but instead he has proven himself the very kind of person we need protection from. Law enforcers should not be allowed to charge anyone they want with anything they want, with no regard for the truth (like he does).

As far as Mignini’s acquittal is concerned, that hasn’t happened yet and I hope it never does. He was merely given a retrial because one of his victims was among the jury that convicted him before… but even with an impartial jury, he’s not likely to win, especially given that he continues to use the same gestapo-like practices that got him into trouble in the first place.

Although it could be argued that his continuing abuse is as much the courts’ fault for allowing it. Couldn’t they at least suspend him? Then, once his trials are complete, they can either restore him to office or forbid him to practice law enforcement ever again… and I hope the latter happens because as long as he is in power nobody in Perugia is safe.

On the other hand, with an imagination like his, he’d make a very good scriptwriter for a movie… as long as he doesn’t try to pass it off as non-fiction. His grasp on the truth is highly questionable.

Posted by: Dave | February 5, 2013, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm

the truth is this whole case was a railroad job from the start. Amanda and Raffaelle were innocent of the crime and its losers like brmull who cannot and will not admit defeat. besides why would anyone want to take advice from a guy who can’t practice medicine because he tried to choke out his patient. Just like brmull

Posted by: bill | February 6, 2013, 1:10 am 1:10 am

Dr Mull, why don’t you admit that you’re unhealthily obsessed with vilifying Amanda Knox?

For a man with a history of assault, suspended from his work as a result, are you subliminally trying to ensure that you’ll never be trusted in your profession again?

Maybe Mignini will give you a job, hunting down his detractors.

Posted by: Joe | February 6, 2013, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Why are reports about the case riddled with errors? Mignini was not convicted of abuse of office and he was not there when Amanda made her spontaneous statements. She made them after a 2 and 1/2 hour interview, just learning her boyfriend had withdrawn her alibi.

Posted by: elizabeth | February 6, 2013, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Elizabeth, it is not true that Amanda’s boyfriend withdrew her alibi. The police falsely represented his actual statement to her as if he had withdrawn it.

Mignini was in fact convicted of abuse of office. On appeal the proceedings were moved to a new jurisdiction, and nothing has been heard since.

Posted by: Rikard Ettberg | February 6, 2013, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Dr. Mull, neck surgeon emeritus.

Posted by: Maryville | February 6, 2013, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Richard he has not been convicted so stop repeating this error. He was not present when she made her spontaneous statement, the author needs to correct her mistakes.

Posted by: elizabeth | February 6, 2013, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Elizabeth, he was convicted and given a jail sentence. A longer sentence than the prosecutor had asked for. However the case has gone into limbo at the appeals level.

Posted by: Rikard Ettberg | February 6, 2013, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

The conviction was overturned, if a new case is not filed in Turin and to date it hasn’t been then there is nothing to mislead people about.

Posted by: elizabeth | February 6, 2013, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Please! Stop the posts that hint at identity of commenter BRMULL. This is nasty bullying and extremely inappropriate! There are more sock-puppets joining in since the others were removed.Please close the comments if you can’t stop the abuse.

Posted by: miranda | February 6, 2013, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Why isn’t there a link to report offensive/libelous comments?

Posted by: miranda | February 6, 2013, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Amanda Knox is innocent and if the court does convict her on the slander charge, the U.S. authorities will not allow an extradition unless the Italian authorities can prove Amanda really did commit a crime and there is no way in hell the Italian authorities can prove it.

Not to mention the list of people the stupid prosecutor wanted to prosecute for slander includes not just Amanda and her parents, a man who does not even like Amanda Knox to begin with is also on the list of persons to be prosecuted all cause of a comment he made on the case.

Posted by: Ryan McReynolds | February 6, 2013, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Don’t forget all the journalists Mignini has been harassing, too. They’re all being sued for slander too.

Posted by: Dave | February 7, 2013, 12:15 am 12:15 am

You lie about Mignini. He doesn’t hassle journalists. Total fairytale. Knox and Sollecito killed Meredith Kercher.

Posted by: miranda | February 7, 2013, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Miranda: No, you are completely wrong. Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito had nothing whatsoever to do with the brutal sexual assault and murder of Meredith Kercher. Rudy Guede killed Ms Kercher, got 30 years in prison and then, thanks to your buddy Mignini , got his sentence cut in half so he will be back on the street in just a few short years to potentially rape and murder someone’s else’s daughter. It seems to me that should concern you a bit more than perceived insults to bmull or Mignini!

Posted by: riverlady99 | February 7, 2013, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Mignini has a bad track record of false convictions that got appealed, Amanda and Raffaele are not the only innocent persons to have won appeals against convictions under him, the same has happened to others.

As I said before even a journalist that does not like Amanda Knox to begin with is on the list of whom Mignini wishes to prosecute.

Not to mention Mignini is super obsessed with allegations of satanic rituals, I am Lutheran myself by the way but if I were a Prosecutor, I would not include satanic rituals in a criminal case unless there was solid evidence such really was involved in a crime.

So if I were a Prosecutor and I was sure that the suspect was a devil worshipper, I can’t use that unless I can prove the crime was related to devil worship, and if I can’t prove that, then I cannot use that no matter how I personally feel about the personal beliefs of a suspect.

Unfortunately Prosecutor Mignini forgets that and comes up with false assumptions, on top of that he is already under scrutiny for the way evidence was presented against Amanda, including a possibility he might be forced to pay costs back to the Prosecution office.

What can I say Italy is still as Fascist as it was under Mussolini and USA kicked Mussolini’s butt once again when Amanda was set free, I even wrote a song celebrating her release from prison.

Posted by: Ryan McReynolds | February 7, 2013, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Amanda should have said she was Palestinian Terrorist. Italy would have let her go. (Achille Lauro)

Posted by: JackDMontana | February 7, 2013, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

When the prosecutor presents to the U.S. his “evidence”, he should be charge with felony (lying) reporting of a crime. A warrant should then go out for his arrest. Donald Trump should do his good works by paying Xe (Blackwater) a bounty for him.

Posted by: JackDMontana | February 7, 2013, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

Brmull has been making accusations and claims for years, but fails to provide any evidence for them.

1) Mull claims Mignini isn’t part of the defamation suit yet the judge who changed the venue seems to think he is. Perhaps Mull needs to inform him?

2) The appeals court upheld the slander conviction against Lumumba but Judge Hellman made it very clear that it was done “in a situation of considerable psychological pressure (to call it stress seems an understatement” and that “it is understandable that Amanda Knox, yielding to pressure and fatigue, would have hoped to put an end to that situation by giving her interrogators that which, in the end, they wanted to hear: a name, a murderer.”

3) At least brmull admits now that there actually were 50 hours of interrogation. Most colpevisti claim she only made her statements after a couple hours, totally ignoring the cumulative exhaustion of those 50 hours in 4 days that contributed to her statemnents of Nov 6.

4) Mull is splitting hairs when he says Knox didn’t say she had a “vision”. Knox wrote ” In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images,” and ” these things seem unreal to me, like a dream, and I am unsure if they are real things that happened or are just dreams my head has made to try to answer the questions in my head and the questions I am being asked.” What is a vision if not something one sees in one’s mind or is more like a dream than reality?

The statements the POLICE wrote in ITALIAN and had Knox (who spoke only rudimentary Italian) sign were derived from what she had said above. Those statements were ruled inadmissable because she was denied a lawyer. Of course, the interrogation was not recorded as required by law, either…even though the police had recorded her for the last 3 days, including in the police station.Curious, no?

6) Mignini WAS CONVICTED of abuse of office. It was only overturned, not because he was acqutted of the charges, but because of a jurisdictional technicality. The case was sent to the proper jurisdiction to review for retrial.

7) Mull apparently doesn’t understand the difference between a man already convicted of abuse of office (and only under appeal) continuing to prosecute a murder trial and a woman already acquitted being paid for a book about the crime.

Posted by: Stacyhs | February 7, 2013, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

Stachys,
1) The judge ruled that Perugia wasn’t a neutral venue, but Mignini is not one of the plaintiffs.
2) Having understandable motives is not an excuse to lie. Most liars have understandable motives.
3) 50 hours was approximately her total time with police. The total time in one-on-one interviews was, according to my calculations, about 14.
4) Knox talked about a “dream” in a letter she wrote after being formally arrested. The Supreme Court did not rule this statement inadmissible, contrary to what Nikki wrote.
6) I stand corrected and I apologize. Mignini was in fact convicted of one count of abuse of office, and acquitted of the other one. At the appeals level, he was not acquitted. Rather, the case was dismissed because of numerous conflicts of interest. This is worse than an acquittal from the prosecution’s perspective, because an acquittal could be appealed to Cassation.
7) Mignini was still in legal jeopardy at that time. Knox and Sollecito are still in legal jeopardy at this time. Therefore the comparison I made is valid.

Posted by: brmull | February 7, 2013, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Interesting new development: According to Italian newspapers yesterday, at least two of the cops who are plaintiffs accusing Knox of slander are themselves under investigation for abuse of their powers in an unrelated but serious case of witness harrassment/intimidation.

Maybe it’s not so surprising that the judge in Knox’s slander trial agreed that Perugia wasn’t an appropriate venue and decided to move it elsewhere.

Posted by: Rikard Ettberg | February 8, 2013, 9:39 am 9:39 am

Rikard Ettberg,

One of Raffaele Sollecito’s chief interrogators the night of Nov 5/6 2007 was D M Profazio, the head of the Squadra Mobile (Flying Squad) in Perugia. In 2009, Profazio was in the news again as having elicited false confessions of rape from two men later proved innocent.

Posted by: Stacyhs | February 8, 2013, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

Mignini has been cleared Andrea Voght tweets today Thanks Andrea for accurate reporting!

Posted by: elizabeth | February 8, 2013, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Elizabeth,

That is not what Vogt’s twtter says. It says:

>Andrea Vogt‏@andreavogt

Italy’s high court: #Florence abuse of office charges against #amandaknox prosecutor G.Mignini for MOF case are “inadmissible.”<

It does not say he has been cleared.

Vogt's twitter raises a question; how can "charges" be "inadmissible"? Evidence or testimony can be "inadmissible", but charges cannot be. The twitter doesn't even make sense.

Posted by: Stacyhs | February 8, 2013, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

What Vogt is twittering about is that the SC has confirmed the change of venue to Turin, where the case against Mignini for illegal wiretapping will now need to be started again from the beginning. It voids the charges that we have been talking about earlier in the thread, but it is not an acquittal because the case can be reopened in Turin.

Posted by: Rikard Ettberg | February 9, 2013, 4:22 am 4:22 am

@STACYHS

Thanks for providing a documented recent example of the Perugian police eliciting false confessions from wrongly accused suspects. I wish I could say I was surprised, but I’m not.

Posted by: Rikard Ettberg | February 9, 2013, 4:31 am 4:31 am

@ RIKARD ETTBERG

Thanks for clarifying that regarding Mignini’s trial. I searched unsuccessfully for anything on the internet about it. I will be following the case.

I was amused by ELIZABETH’s claim that Mignini was “cleared” and how she thanked Vogt for “accurate reporting”! There was nothing “accurate” about her twitter as it didn’t even make sense. Charges are not “inadmissible” or “admissable”.

Posted by: Stacyhs | February 9, 2013, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Anybody that doesn’t realize that Rudy Guede is the murderer is an idiot.

Posted by: John Howard | February 11, 2013, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

The way she right after the crime and the way she was behaving as Meredith’s roommate (e.g. all those signs of borderline personality disorder – the drug-fueled nights with her boyfriend, the explicit stories she wrote, the bloody tampons and vibrator she left out in the bathroom, the cartwheels she did at the police station, and the fact that she TOOK A SHOWER IN A BLOODY BATHROOM) point to a seriously disturbed woman. It all seems too fishy for her to be “innocent.”

It’s too bad the Italian legal system botched the prosecution.

Posted by: Aly B. | March 2, 2013, 5:07 am 5:07 am

The slander was committed by Giobbi, Napoleoni, Stefanoni, Mignini, Comodi, and Maresca – among many other, lesser Italian police and prosecutors.

And Aly B… the bathroom was not “bloody” when she showered: that was a chemical reaction to a regent applied much later by police that detects protein and also soap. It was not blood and was really little different than PAINT. It sure fooled you, however!

Posted by: JLS1950 | March 24, 2013, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

Regarding Dr. Brendan Mull, no one is defaming him. The information is online, courtesy of the Medical Board, California USA. It’s not liablous to point out things that are fact, and that are very much in the public domain. I think it is valid to note that this man ‘may’ have an issue with women, and that he therefore shouldn’t necessarily be making nasty comments aobut Amanda Knox. To his credit, he is not attempting to hide his identity. That does make him less of a coward than most of the nasties who post vitriolic comments behind the safety of their fake ID’s in cyberspace!

Posted by: Angela | April 27, 2013, 5:02 am 5:02 am

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