California Bans Gay Conversion Therapy for Minors

None of the news coverage is mentioning it, but this bill also protects transgender children from similar abuse. It’s not just about sexual orientation.

The issue is not about Gay at all here. The issue is parents rights. I just do not understand how if a parent believes being Gay is not natural and wants to somehow help their child they are not entitled to the basic right . Please do not waste your time giving me psychobabble about how Gay is normal and natural because I can give you psychobabble about how the same shock therapy used in “one flew over the cuckoo’s nest” received a name change to electroconvulsive therapy and is still used today. If you invoke the name of Christ and force your kid to go to church it’s abuse, but if you forced to let your kid go on doing what you believe is a sin, well that perfectly ok….. oh AND i want the word Gay back, and I am reclaiming the rainbow as something children get to dream about and paint on their walls….. Rant Over thank you for reading.

The “counselor” in this video is so sickeningly fake that anyone would react against him. No psychologist would do something this private in a public place. As usual, ABC, you are manipulating our emotions and Quinones should be fired for unprofessionalism. It is very important that young victims of same-sex sexual abuse be allowed counseling to help them purge unwanted same sex feelings as a result of their abuse. To enact a law to prevent it is state enforced child abuse. While we are outlawing this, we allow a 10 year old girl to get life altering hormone therapy to change her gender because she thinks she wants to be a boy. This is perfectly legal and is happening now. What have we become…facists?

Nice. States routinely ban medical quackery, and this should be no exception.

We’ve talked more about private sexx lives than public debt!

And another thing– who says some little girl knows she wants to be a boy so she takes hormones to grow a pair?? These parents just wish it was themselves changing THEIR OWN gender! Too late, Huh?

Born that way? Someone may be born with a tendency toward alcoholism or other addictive, harmful behavior. We dont tell them, ‘youre fine, you were born that way’.

This is the most ridiculous intrusion into parental rights I have ever witnessed. And what about religious liberty? The state of California just decided for all parents that they know what is best. How sad. I think I need to move to Texas.

Being gay is NOT normal. If it were a genetic condition, there would be no propagation. It’s a combination of bad parenting and a hypersexual society, coupled with an erosion of religous values. Sorry if my thinking is not “cool” or PC enough for you blue state libs out there. It’s sad, and no coincidence, that with Obama in office, we can’t even try to cure the illness anymore. Sick. At least when we had a CHRISTIAN president George W. Bush in office this kind of thing wasn’t US policy. you might have 2 sick dudes doing whatever behind closed doors, but that was between them and God’s judgement. Now, nobody blinks an eye if 2 bearded dudes want to wear dresses and get married.

That is ridiculous to think that someone can change one’s sexual orientation! Who we are sexually attracted to is about as primal as anything about a human being is! Being a straight woman, I can honestly say that I never had to choose to be attracted to guys, it was just who I am! And I can also honestly say that there is nothing in the world that could make me attracted to a female, that’s just NOT who I am. Just leave these people alone and let them live their lives, fercrissakes!

Either one believes in Darwinism or genetic sexual orientation. Can’t have both. if it were genetic, Darwin would predict that the anomaly would diminish to zero population over time. Instead, this anomaly has increased in population. More likely it is a predictable outcome of an increasingly licentious and decaying citizenry.

dear readers, keep in mind that the bill does not prohibit parents taking molested or even simply distressed children to licensed therapists. it simply says that therapies that are geared toward altering sexual orientation are not to be allowed. this does not say that a transgendered child can’t speak about their confusion. it doesnt say that a victim of rape or molestation cant speak about anger, fear, or other feelings. it doesnt say that a gay or lesbian child cant seek counseling for advice about themself. it seems to say that a parent cant take a gay child to therapy in attempts to make them normal.

but what do i know? ive just read the article a few times and attempted to see it for what it is.

So, I’m assuming all the people crying about parental rights are also pro-choice, because your posts clearly indicate you value a parent’s rights over the basic human rights of their offspring.

Upon completing his 8 years as president and returning to California, Ronald Reagan made the remark publicly that we should make California into a “rich mans state”. Meaning that we should make it into a state where only rich people could live. At the time there were already 2 former presidents and 1 former vice president living in California. 2 of those people lived in Palm Springs where organized crime (mafia, la cosa nostra) has a strong hold. So you all keep calling California a nut job state. It gave you your hero.

SAVEUSA101: “Being gay is NOT normal. If it were a genetic condition, there would be no propagation.” – - – WRONG. Clearly you are clueless regarding biology and evolution. There is a whole host of wide ranging genetic traits and conditions that are negative regarding propogation and survival that continue to appear simply because the vast complexity of human DNA makes it possible and inevitable. If you really want to save the USA go to college and take some legitimate science classes and learn enough to actually understand the topic.

Darwin would predict that the anomaly would diminish to zero population over time.—what???!!! If you have a recessive gene, and you marry someone with the same recessivef gene, guess what, one of your kids will HAVE that recessive trait. When we find the gene that makes someone gay, the wing nuts, again, will be seen as the ‘world is flat’ morons once again. Dont you folks get sick of always bein the stupid ones? I mean slavery is sanctioned by the bible…then Jim Crow…then women were inferior, now it’s ‘gays can be ‘changed’…sheesh. You’d think after a while, once you get an idea your head, just based on your track record, you’d stop and say “gee, maybe I should go against my instincts seeing how every time we dig our heels in, we make bleeding fools of ourselves!”

– this is widely and unequivocally considered malpractice.—and if the child IS gay, I say, as a parent, it’s child abuse. Do you tell your child that having blue eyes is evil? God will punish you. Let’s try to eat this, or do this, to change your blue eyes because you cannot havef blue eyes! It’s not natural! Is that child abuse??? ya think? And it also seems very often, the folks most weird about gays…..have gays in their family. Why is that???? Well, maybe you’ve got a gay gene, and you know it.

Children wouldn’t be wanting to have sex with the same gender if parents would raise there kids and educate the kids themselves instead of letting the all powerful government do it for them in the public education system. The schools and media thru tv brain wash the kids. This is psychological child abuse when a government system brain washes a child into thinking sticking there pee pee into another boys feces is called sex and is normal. the kids are not born with the desire to consume feces or have sex with it.

LARRY: “Children wouldn’t be wanting to have sex with the same gender if parents would raise there kids and educate the kids themselves instead of letting the all powerful government do it for them in the public education system. The schools and media thru tv brain wash the kids..” – - – ROFLMAO If there was one shred of possibility to that then how do you explain a long human history of hundreds and thousands of years of gay people long before public education or TV?

Thank you for passing this law. Even though I’m on the other side of the country, it makes me glad people are changing. I remember growing up, hearing my parents say how they would disown any child of theirs who came out as gay or came home with a black person. I remember how they would talk about how they thought gays needed to be put on an island somewhere and burned. How they never knew I was gay I do not know, I guess I’ve always been a good actor. I use to have a nightmare when I was a kid, it was probably my fear of them finding out that I was gay. I never even kissed anybody girl or boy until i was 19, but I thought they might figure it out. I’ve never told anyone about this dream…but here it goes. In the dream I was waiting on the elevator, the door opened and I was surprised to see my family inside, I said hey yall, they didn’t say a word to me, looked straight ahead and acted like they didn’t know me and just kept walking. That was the worst nightmare I ever had. I love my parents anyway, no matter if they hate the real me or not but I hope parents if your reading this will love their kids for who they are and not who they wish they were.

science is still split on whether or not people are bron gay. although the gay religion has pushed the born gay thing like its fact. its a gay religion fox news quality fact. the science is still split. read up on the ‘science nature vs. nurture debate’. some are likely born gay but not all, not by a long shot you liers. read the science and psychology before you push your gay agenda because your followers are blind clueless sheep with fox news quality facts spewing from their mouths. its offensive and stupid. the left is as fake and ignorant as the right.

the gay agenda is combating religion with more blind religion. its awful to watch and even worse to listen because a majority of it is made up or exaggerated

im a moderate who believes in science and psychology and thinks the left and right are wrong

Some psychological abuse on the part of a parent towards their child, is not reportable. Where is the justice?

The gay rights platform is becoming everything it supposedly fights against. Yes, perhaps there are parents forcing their kids into this kind of therapy, but parents can be like that. It’s not the therapists fault. Granted, the communities have cited “there is no evidence the therapy really works” but that can mostly be attributed to the fact that that they haven’t made any serious or legit studies yet. There’s no evidence that it doesn’t work or is harmful either. I think the fact that they used a one-sidedly homophobophobic (yes, I coined that word just now) episode of WWYD to stand with this article shows how ridiculous the whole thing is. This is a ban on choice, plain and simple. There must be a LOT more research into this before any ban should be considered.

I think that this is an excellent step in helping protect gay and lesbian people under the age of 18. Conversion therapy for gays and lesbians has been shown to cause irreversible psychological harm. It has been denounced by all major scientific organizations including the American Psychological Association or A.P.A. From all the research one can conclude that not only is this therapy dangerous; it is also unethical.

This is not a non-religious vs. religious issue. This is about the issue of protecting children from harm. It is not okay to tell a child there is something wrong with them just because they have a different sexual orientation. In my opinion good parents will embrace the differences in their children and teach them to embrace the differences in others. I hope other states follow suit with similar laws.