Syracuse Students Join Rally for Gay Marriage
ABC News on Campus Reporter Jason Tarr blogs: Tim and his partner have been together for more than 10 1/2 years. At some point he wants to marry the man he loves. But, more than a decade is a long wait, he says, and it feels as if it could be even longer with the recent passage of measures like Proposition 8 in California. “Just like this sign says, ‘Love is Love,’” he said. “If you love someone you should be able to be with that person and to be respected.” More than 3,000 miles from California, where voters passed Proposition 8 that restricted marriage to heterosexual couples, 171 people like Tim stood in front of Syracuse City Hall on Saturday. A light rain coated their clothes and they used plastic to cover their rally signs as they tried to take refuge under rainbow-colored umbrellas. In Syracuse, residents and local college students say the issue hits home just as much for them as anyone else. Students held signs that read “We didn’t vote on your marriage.” Talking with so many of the people at the rally, I found the reaction to the passage of measures like Proposition 8 to still be one of shock. The ballot vote overrode a California Supreme Court ruling that had recognized gay marriage as a right. Most people didn’t understand how the denial of gay marriage was approved, especially with so many liberal victories in the House, Senate, and most important, the White House, in the recent election. “Hopefully with Obama in the White House there will come some further change,” rally participant Amber Luce said. “Obama means more than just racial change.” But her colleague Janell Haynes quickly added: “Just electing Obama is not enough.” She said that is precisely why rallies like the one in Syracuse are so important to her and rally organizers. She and other people at the rally said they believe there is a lot of misinformation about same-sex marriage and that the only way to change things is to get out and put a human face on the issue. “People are seeing this as a moral issue and not as an issue of human rights,” Haynes said. “They (Prop 8 supporters) think it is going to affect their homes. . . but it doesn’t, it affects our homes.”
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Bravo for them! It is time we quit letting religion override our Constitution!!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | November 15, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
You know,,,,for years I always wanted to marry the man I loved.
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | November 15, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
==“If you love someone you should be able to be with that person and to be respected.”==
Nobody is stopping anybody from being with anybody.
The law doesn’t stop any man who claims to be homosexual from marrying a woman who says that she is homosexual.
In University of California v Bakke, SCOTUS says that groups have no Rights, that only persons/individuals do.
Thus, the law that defines “marriage” as the union of a “man” and a “woman” does not discriminate since all those who claim to be homosexual are either men, or women.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
The law says that two of the same sex may not marry each other. However, that goes for EVERYBODY, not just those who say they are homosexual. Therefore, again, no discrimination.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
==“People are seeing this as a moral issue and not as an issue of human rights,” Haynes said. “They (Prop 8 supporters) think it is going to affect their homes. . . but it doesn’t, it affects our homes.”==
B-b-b-b-b-ut, Hillary Clinton, a member of the Lib side, says, “It Takes a Village,” and we’re part of that “village.”
The reason we take it as a Morals issue is that it IS a Morals issue.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
==…the denial of gay marriage was approved…==
No, it wasn’t.
Men who claim to be homosexual may marry women who claim to be homosexual. So, what you call “gay marriage” was not denied.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
its simply unconstitutional to deny equal rights to law abiding citizens… if homophobes dont want gays on the alter of their church, that is one thing, but a marriage license is issued by the government and the government has no obligation to religitards, but they do have an obligation to uphold the constitution and not discriminate… but fear not, eventually gays will be recognized as fellow human beings because society is shifting, however slowly…
Posted by: earthisnotflat | November 15, 2008, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
I think it’s sad that certain groups, who can’t help the way that they were born, are not allowed the right (rite) of marriage. Would we ban physically disabled people from marriage? How about people who are mentally disabled or ill? Gay marriage doesn’t affect heterosexual people – so why the backlash against it? Keep religion out of it. This is not a religious issue. It’s a human rights issue. Banning gay marriage is no more right than banning two schizophrenics or two redheads from being able to marry. These are biological conditions – so why is one being punished? It’s no skin off anyone’s nose if a gay couple wants to get married. No church will be “forced” to act against its tenets. Gay couples will only be married in those institutions that will perform it. I know plenty of heterosexual couples who have been denied Catholic, Mormon or Jewish marriage ceremonies because they don’t meet the criteria, and there’s no law of the land that forces churches to perform marriages that don’t meet their standards. So – what are people so afraid of?
Posted by: Former Republican | November 15, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
People who deny the right of gay couples to marry are morally the same as people who tried to keep women and black people from voting and enjoying their full civil rights.
Bigotry is bigotry, and history is against the people who voted for Proposition 8.
Posted by: Alex | November 15, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
Mr. Incredible, you are, indeed, incredible, or, rather, UNcredible. What skin is off YOUR nose if two men wish to marry each other legally, or two women wish to marry each other legally? We hear of more spousal abuse ocurring in heterosexual marriages than among gays or Lesbians in long-term committed relationships; those who CHOOSE to bring children into their lives by whatever means available are known to provide loving, welcoming homes to those children — I’ve never heard anything about child abuse being imposed upon those children, but I’ve heard plenty about child abuse occurring to children born of hetero-sexuals. As for “morals”, I don’t believe it’s any less moral for two people of the same gender to commit to each other than for so many people in heterosexual unions who serially cheat on their spouses. Whatever religion a person subscribes to is a matter of faith and the relationship each person has with the Higher Power he/she believes in. I’m straight, but I sincerely believe that gays and Lesbians made no choice in their sexual orientation; they were born the way they are.
Posted by: nanameow | November 15, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
There are two aspects to the word “marriage.” The secular and the spiritual.
The secular aspect is the legal contract authorized by the state in which certain legal privileges and protections are available to couples meeting the requirements. The requirements currently are that the couple be one male and one female, of or beyond a certain age who have completed the required documents and filed those documents with the appropriate office.
The state has always regulated legal contracts and placed restrictions on them…including who may and who may not enter into one.
The spiritual aspects are whatever the couple want to make them…a ritual, swearing an oath, reading a poem, whatever they choose.
If the state offers the same and equal legal privileges and protections through a contract of a different name (like “civil union”)for same-sex couples, the rational course of action would be to enter into that contract with one’s partner in the belief that such partnerships will, over time, become a non-issue.
The irrational course of action is to demand that the majority abandon deeply held convictions and beliefs in order to have the word “marriage” appear on the contract.
Posted by: MizFW | November 15, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
If you are against Gay Marriage is because you must be in the closet, such an insecure human being!!! Morality? Oh let me think about that one, like priest and pastors and mormons sleeping with 13 year old children. Hmm!! morality!! Or how about this one, parents (straight ones) dropping their kids like flies in Nebraska! Oh yes that is very Moral and Christian!
GET A LIFE, COME OUT OF YOUR CLOSET! If you don’t want to be happy let others be.
Posted by: Antonio | November 15, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Oh boy, Same Sex Marriage,What’s next Human and Animal Marriage.
Posted by: KWOLF443 | November 15, 2008, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Who’s influencing these college kiddies, their WHACKO PROFESSORS? I think they should start doing ALL college classes ONLINE. Get away from these freakos (professors)!
Posted by: Anna | November 15, 2008, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
==its simply unconstitutional to deny equal rights to law abiding citizens…==
Nobody denies anybody’s Rights. Men who claim to be homosexual may marry women who think they are homosexual. No law requires that the man and woman be heterosexual.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
==…certain groups, who can’t help the way that they were born, are not allowed the right (rite) of marriage.==
University of California v Bakke. SCOTUS. It says that groups have no Rights, thta only persons/individuals do.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
==People who deny the right of gay couples to marry…==
Heterosexual men are stopped from marrying men, too. So, there is no discrimination.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
==What skin is off YOUR nose if two men wish to marry each other legally, or two women wish to marry each other legally?==
Hillary Clinton, who is on YOUR side, says, “It Takes a Village.” I’m part of the village.
== We hear of more spousal abuse ocurring in heterosexual marriages…==
Irrelevant.
==…I don’t believe it’s any less moral for two people of the same gender to commit to each other than for so many people in heterosexual unions who serially cheat on their spouses.==
God says different.
==… gays and Lesbians made no choice in their sexual orientation…==
Yes, they did.
==…they were born the way they are.==
No, they weren’t.
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
==If you are against Gay Marriage is because you must be in the closet, such an insecure human being!!! ==
It “must” be??? “Must”?
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
==Oh boy, Same Sex Marriage,What’s next Human and Animal Marriage.==
Why do you think they’re looking to the animals for sex tips?
Posted by: Mr. Incredible | November 15, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
See,,,I would love somebody and he would always leave me for another radio record AND ON TIME. Shoot! Now I am running between “as she rises to her apartment Chief, everybody else was sure to know, he’s watching her go”. Go? Go where? And who was “he”? I haven’t had a date in 8 years! North to Alaska so I can do my own brain tans? Or I can swing with Elton in 70′ and Honkey Chateau while these liers are running on the banks-”Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters, sons of bankers, sons of lawyers”. I guess it is the math pencil and 3 degrees so I can stick your lazy you know whats into the can for not respecting women-not to mention the guy I married which you shunned. In the meantime, good ladies,,,I am going for the Marvin Grants and the Calvin Kleins.If you think I am listening to this line of you know what-guess again-especially after being a Kundalini, drug and alcohol free Barter Fair freak. And let me tell you something else: Nothing replaces love and marriage. Nothing replaces love and marriage between a man and a women-even if they plan to wreck it on time. Nothing. Nowhere. Zero. Period. If any of you are lucky enough to find a person of the opposite sex who has the guts to stick it out through it all, you will discover the sacredness of a God given rite that was the mystery no one could even express. Lighten up. Its not over yet…..
Posted by: Suzannaquanashawn | November 15, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Face it…you homosexuals who want to diminish the word marriage… YOU LOST on Prop 8… Get over it!.. Prancing around the streets, demonstrating, DEMANDING people change their minds about the vote..presenting a “in your face”…”you better like it” or “this is the way it’s gotta be” attitude, is really the way to go!… Keep it up!… The people have spoken… Power to the PEOPLE!!!!
Posted by: stan | November 16, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Gayness is a deviate of normal. It is againt Nature, Against how the human body was design and what it was designed for.
It is a personal preference of sexual behavior.
If the government makes one abnormal sexual behavior legal, they will have to make them all legal.
Posted by: seah | November 16, 2008, 5:08 am 5:08 am
Nothing funnier than angry homos! Marching and prancing and throwing their hissy fits! If Cali said F you, then you can bet it will only be a matter of time before the rest of the US does. And BTW, Obama is against same sex marriage…just so you know :-)
Posted by: NubTail | November 16, 2008, 8:26 am 8:26 am
The very last worry on my mind is “gay rights.” How incredibly selfish. We are fighting for our very survival as a country. Those students need to direct their energy to volunteering to assist the elderly, mow some grass, shovel some snow, provide a meal to the hungry, join the military, GIVE BACK.
Posted by: Yankee | November 16, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am
I think there are more important aspects of the Bible that we need to focus on.
Did you know that right now, my fellow christians there are people in this very nation that are deprived of the Biblical right to sell their daughters into slavery? That there are christians eating shellfish, shorning their beards, and wearing clothing of mixed fabrics?
We should be demanding our government allow the selling of our daughters-it’s in the Bible!!!! We should storm the evil Red Lobster Restaurants and stone to death the patrons-It’s in the Bible!!!!! We should be on the look out for sinners wearing cotton and wool blends and keep a large smooth stone ready to launch at their sinful heads-It’s in the Bible!!!!!! And men who shave-beware their are christians watching you!!!!!! Personnaly if I dont see some stubble on that chin, well I know what to do, after all ITS IN THE BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Michael ONeal | November 18, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
In some places in this world, women are not permitted to hold jobs, drive, walk unaccompanied in public, show their faces or look a man in the eye. Women who defy the prohibitions may be beaten, raped or stoned to death.
These practices are backed up by centuries of tradition. They are codified into law. Religious scholars cite passages from the holy book to justify the practices. It is believed that this is the natural order of things, that women are naturally inferior and subservient to men. If the laws are put to a popular vote, they easily pass.
Does that make it right?
And if not… how much weight do the EXACT SAME arguments hold in the Prop 8 debate?
Posted by: Yukon Sam | November 19, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
i think that it is a moral issue. homosexuality is a horrible blight on society; one that our kids shouldn’t be exposed to. It is a choice…that’s right…so if a person makes a perverted choice, society shouldn’t have to pay for that choice. go be weird on mars…
Posted by: James | May 3, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm