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By: ELLIS GOLDBERG

ELLIS GOLDBERG — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:50:22 +0000

A Nov. 15 2007 AP story indicates Chevron was fined $30M by the SEC for bribing Saddams’s thugs in the “oil for food” deal and that Chevron may face tax evasion charges later. The bribes were in the millions so someone pretty high up at Chevron had to sign off on the payments. Unfortunately the AP story did not mention Dr. Condoleezza Rice the Chevron board member and the chairman of the “Public Policy Committee” which is responsible for making sure this kind of activity does not happen.
The Chevron website says the committee’s purposes include “identifying, evaluating and monitoring social, political and environmental trends, issues and concerns”, “analyzing how public policy trends could impact business activities and performance”. Dr. Rice never discussed the Iraqi bribes on the record (not in the minutes) at company meetings. That should not surprise anyone who is familiar with her lack of response to 911 warnings.
President Clinton put sanctions on Iraq. Actions by Chevron and Rice clearly violated those sanctions and amount to treason. I urge our new Attorney General Michael Mukasey and California Attorney General Jerry Brown determine who at Chevron authorized the millions in bribes.
Ellis

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By: NBM

NBM — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:04:24 +0000

Good Lord, what a joke! If any woman in Condi’s position is offended by this, then she doesn’t have the preverbal “balls” to be in the job. I read the transcript and this is so over blown it’s ridiculous. All she meant was the neither had no family members that were being affected. Which is a fact.
Talk about spin…. To use this as a springboard for any discussion is a joke.
Female psychological warfare??? I think I must be reading a comic book here.
What do you label it as when men speak frankly?

By: Sandra Lang

Sandra Lang — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:21:21 +0000

While I have very little respect for Secretary Rice’s policies, I can not overlook the snide remarks from Senator Boxer.
As a reasonably successful (divorced)African American female, with no children, I understand the difficulties associated with finding an appropriate partner. Successful African American males are few and far between when compared to the number of available successful African American females. Rather than kick Dr. Rice to the curb because she has no children, I would tell Senator Boxer that it is to Dr. Rice’s credit that at least she has not crossed the color line in matrimony as she has done in her public policy work.
There are many single African American women similarly situated i.e. Oprah Winfrey, that theoretically could have any man their money could buy. Yet, they remained mindful of the fact that race matters in the USA.

By: Zizi Yosheved

Zizi Yosheved — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:46:13 +0000

Politicians who have a heart that says ‘when you hurt, I hurt. Your loss is mine as much as it is your’ are fast becoming an ‘endangered species’. I don’t think the Senator’s remark to Dr. Rice was as much a snide at the well accomplished Secretary as it is an unwitting admission of her own shameful selfishness. Of course, her children are either too old or too young so she has nothing to lose personally. Well, this is about America and not about the Boxer clan. Now, we know whether or not the Senator is for “God and Country” or for “me and my own”. Go Boxer, you have nothing to lose, not even your reputation because it is already in the mud!

By: papau

papau — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 04:52:58 +0000

So with 3019 US troops dead from combat in Iraq, perhaps 600,000 Iraqi civilian deaths (at least 30,000 admitted by US and Iraqi officials), an Iraqi standard of living destroyed economically, socially in terms of human rights for females and non-Muslims, and in terms of security – all for a war of choice so that Bush could satisfy an Oedipal need to show up his daddy, and so Rice could please her – as she said – “husband” (meaning Bush) – all this and the thing ABC wants to discuss if whether or not Boxer was being mean in noting that Rice had no one that had been, was, or would be at risk from the Bush/Rice decisions to invade a country that did not threaten us, under the cover of a lie that the country did threaten us.
The media (including ABC) was never been other than a cheerleader for the Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney/Rice war to get votes, and now the media wants us to ponder if Boxer was mean. Pathetic. But such is to be expected of a media not controlled by the right wing GOP Rich and Corporate – they just act that way.
Loved the way you folks never do a flip-flop count on Bush and the GOP like you did on Kerry, or a Brown suit means less of a man story on a GOP political fiqure, like you did on Gore. But ABC Political Boss Mark Halperin does not see a bias – so I guess there must not be one.
Picking up Murdoch’s NY Post and Fox News Smears is just reporting what other responsible media outlets are reporting – eh?

By: Robert R. White

Robert R. White — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 03:09:08 +0000

Senator Boxer, although fundamentally valid in her pointed frustration, was more of a grand stander, in her address to Secretary Rice. Who pays the price; was her banter, but what exactly was her point? Why was she acting like she was engaged in caring for the concerns of our countries patriots. Where was Senator Boxer when terrorism was known throughout the Clinton years? This is not a simple matter of winning freedom for Iraq. If we can not launch operations from a friendly ally in the Middle East we are going to be in deep trouble when Iran and Syria escalate the threat; and ‘yes’ they will escalate the threat. We need an ally in that geographical location or we are going to be continually threatened by extremist.
My heart breaks for my comrades in arms and their children and loved ones who suffer with them; however, we do not honor or help them by tearing our country a part in political debate. If Boxer really wanted to help she would find a way to unite this country in a campaign that spurs this nation towards a collective stand; one that supports the necessary sacrifice to defeat this threat. Terrorism is not going to go away… even the President stated, during the early days of 911, that this fight will be ours, our children’s, and our children’s children, to fight. Wake up! ‘Career politicians;’ who ‘this American’ feels is the real problem.
It is time for senators and congressmen to quite running for office, using the Presidency as a scapegoat, and start doing their job to support their country. We are at war and politicians need to also be soldiers in combat; servants that do not have the option of saying ‘no’ to their commander and chief’s call to duty. Our governing officials should be helping the enlistment efforts; after all, they are a paid servants just like those in boots. They need to get off their aristocratic pedestals and start earning that fat pay check, benefit package, and ‘pork feed’ job security.
Why do we keep pointing out the fact that other nations are holding back their support? When has any nation given more towards the pursuit of world freedom than the American people? Wake up! It is time to quit filling the media with pessimistic commentaries that only weaken our countries posture; if the world has no respect for us, the congress, senate, and every condescending American is responsible.
It is my prayer that a shift of spirit and resolve will sweep upon this great nation so that every American will realize the need to get involved and support our efforts towards global stabilization. If there were a past mistake worthy of mentioning it would have to be the moment, after 911, when the country was told to go about their business as usual. In stead, Americans should have been instructed in ways to become involved; much like the efforts to conserve resources during the Second World War. We needed a readiness plan. Failing to involve every American was the biggest mistake; and one that the enemy does not hesitate to employ in their media exploits.
Do not waste our time, Senator Boxer, with your unprofessional outbursts, aimed at the heart strings of Americans. These are the times when the tough need to get tougher and we need to get behind the efforts to stop the insane ‘world’ violence that will, if not dealt with, bring this great nation to its knees. Make no mistake, all you on the hilltops of society, it is not the warriors, or their families, that do a disservice to this nation; instead, as Senator Boxer alluded, it is those that do not have any vested interest or are not choosing to “Pay the Price.” In the Second World War the home front united and paid the sacrifice to win the battle; where is that commitment now?
God Bless America
Robert R. White
Former Gunnery Sergeant
United States Marine Corps
Portland, Oregon

By: James Danley

James Danley — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:45:20 +0000

I thank God every day for the courage that President Bush has demonstrated throughout his presidency. Unlike his predecessors, who were only interested in keeping the status quo in the Middle East — in spite of the building powder keg and frequent suicide bombings — President Bush has a vision of a free and democratic Middle East. But this is a lengthy, expensive and very painful process.
This is analogous to a cancer patient. One can just maintain the status quo and treat the pain with painkillers, but the cancer still eats away the tissue and eventually the life is lost. Or one can attempt to eradicate the cancer with chemotherapy, radiation therapy, biological therapy, surgery or a combination of some or all of these treatments. But each of these treatments may have extremely serious side effects, which in and of themselves, can be unbearable. And the patient may frequently express doubt as to whether it is worth all the pain. But if successful, the patient can live a normal life for years. And, undoubtedly, the patient is forever thankful for having gone through the process.

By: Theresa

Theresa — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:12:52 +0000

I was a Bush Supporter, “but now I am not!!”
Why does that sound familiar?
First I was for it and now I am against it.
You people crack me up!
A little late now don’t ya think!
Senator Boxer did the right thing….period!
“President Bush has the SOUL responsibility to protect our country and citizens. He is standing alone right now in the face of considerable oposition and standing up for the courage of his convictions. He told us after 9/11 that he would do everything in his power to prevent another attack on the United States. He has done so. ”
Yeah! well I have some sad news for you Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11!
Thats why there was an attack on the US Embassy in Athens this morning.
He said he would get Bin Ladin.
Well there is no hide or hair of him is there.
Condie Rices excuse for him not listening to the memos in 2001 before 9/11.
He was tired of swatting flie! I like to know what flies he was swatting, unless of course that was her way of saying there was going to a lot of horse……. coming out of the whitehouse!

By: James Danley

James Danley — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:25:54 +0000

Sen. Boxer lodged a personal attack on Dr. Rice during her nomination hearing. So it isn’t much of a stretch to believe this was a continuation of her animosity towards Dr. Rice. Had a Republican made the same comment to an official within a Democratic administration the Democrats would be demanding an apology. But I, personally, believe too much is being made of the comment. Dr. Rice showed much grace and dignity in not responding to the comment.