A Heated Exchange for Hillary

I am an independent and would like to vote for Hilary, but it is the question of this war vote which forbids me. I can not vote for an individual who can not say,I MADE A MISTAKE. We are experiencing such an individual in the Whitehouse. We don’t need another.

If she thought she was just voting to send inspectors into Iraq, she’s far too stupid to be worth my vote.
I don’t think that’s the case, though; I think that she knew precisely what she was voting for and is now doing everything she can to distance herself from that vote.

Yet another example of the Clinton’s inability to answer a direct question…what is “is”, etc. Why can’t these people answer a direct question?

Lori: you are saying she thought she was authorizing only inspections (which were already authorized) and not a war? That would make her unique among members of Congress, the rest of whom understood they were voting on a war. If she really did think that, she is too dense to keep her Senate seat much less become president.
Of all the defenses I have heard of pro-war votes this has to be the worst.

Hillary is a liar

Way to go lori.
Your rant just gave a big boost to the GOP. Thanks.

Sen. Clinton knew exactly what she was voting for… go and google-up the speeches her husband made on Iraq, and it’s clear Bush is not guilty of lying; rather, he plagarized Clinton almost word for word on everything from WMDs to regime change. Seriously, go back and read Clinton’s speeches, and then Bush’s, Hillary’s and everyone else’s for that matter. They are all the same.
Further, the absurdity of saying basically: “Gee-wiz, if I had known now what I know then…” Yeah, and I wish I had bought Microsoft when it was $5 a share. This is leadership?
I have yet to read one serious piece on what may have been the possible outcomes had we not gone into Iraq. How can we judge if anything was a mistake without exploring the other possible outcomes. For instance, what would have become of the UN had it continued to be corrupted by countless billions floating through the system? What event or circumstances would have stopped that? …I could go on and on, but this whole mea culpa thing is pathetic.

Lori – You’re wrong. She did not vote to send inspectors; she voted to authorize military force and no matter how hard she and her supporters try to dance around it, it just will not fly.
Hillary will not be president because she’s fundamentally dishonest and a critical mass of Americans see through her like Saran Wrap.

Hillary and the the truth?
When pigs fly.

So she thought she was voting to sebd inspectors into Iraq? And how did she anticipate these inspectors getting into Iraq against Saddam’s wishes? The only way would be by being surrounded by U.S. troops, in other words by war. She can try to slip out of responsibility by this terminology, but it doesn’t work.

Ms. Clinton cannot have it both ways. If she did not read the report – and was mistaken that she was sending inspectors – then she is inept.
If she read the report – and came to a conclusion that most of the rest of the world came to – then own up to it. That would be honest.
With her stance right now – she is either dishonest or inept.

So she thought she was voting to sebd inspectors into Iraq? And how did she anticipate these inspectors getting into Iraq against Saddam’s wishes? The only way would be by being surrounded by U.S. troops, in other words by war. She can try to slip out of responsibility by this terminology, but it doesn’t work.

HEY LORI
HOW’S THE KOOL-AID.

Lori, you talk about Sen Clinton as if she is normal mother–just like any other in America. You ask us to imagine Bush “as a working Mom who just got home to 3 screaming, hungry kids,a blasting loud television,a barking dog, and an irate husband who needs you “now”!”, but is it any easier to imagine Sen Clinton in this situation? No, she is a politician and a politician’s wife. I guarantee that she shares few common experiences, outside of the act of childbirth, with the average American mother. I believe that men and women are equally qualified for tasks that physiology does not make especially difficult for one gender or the other. But just as I think you should not vote for a candidate just because he is a man, you should not vote for a candidate simply because she is a female. You need to realize that making general rules such as “men are better suited for the presidency” or, in your case, “women are better suited for the presidency” are simply ridiculous. These issues should be decided on a case-by-case basis because the individuals that make up each gender are not homogeneous. Therefore, given any two individuals, one male and one female, there is no way to predict, based on gender, which one will be better suited for the presidency.

She voted for War. She thought it would be a cakewalk and she would be percieved as strong. She was wrong.

What mindless drivel!!! If Hillary thought she was voting to send inspectors to Iraq it proves she hasn’t got a clue as to what is going on around her. Give me a break, she was briefed about everything. She is just another coniving Clinton trying to grab power for her own devious ideas.

Good grief, Lori! Stop drinking the kool-aid and think for yourself. Hillary is LYING here. She won’t admit it, but there is tape of her explaining her vote to AUTHORIZE THE WAR! I have watched a video of her explaining her vote to Code Pink. She doesn’t say anything about inspectors going in. The inspectors had been going in for years. She voted for the war. It is sad to watch her weasel out of it now. Vote OBAMA. Don’t vote for Hillary simply because she is a woman. How sad.

Senator Clinton is a joke. She sounds exactly like Kerry because it was him who uttered those exact words in the 2004 campaign, “If I knew then what I knew now”. When is she going to realize you cannot undo what has already begun. She will not admit to a mistake with her pro war vote and she’s to afraid to back away because she might offend the mainstream voters. Senator, have some courage because that’s exactly what a real President needs!

To: Lori
It seems you have a short memory.
You call Hillary Clinton “honest”.
I remember “Whitewater”.
I remember “The Rose law firm”.
I remember the firing of all the
Federal Attorneys.
I remember the hiding of school papers that Hillary wrote in college.
Halcion

>And we deserve the chance to prove we can run this Country much more, safely, effeciently,honestly and economically better than any man has thus far!!
Besides, it’s a woman’s perogative to change her mind.

Once again, Hillary Clinton refuses to answer a direct question. When will we learn?

James, your post wasn’t long enough. Even with that, I went to sleep anyway.
Would you repeat that once more? I wasn’t paying attention, and you got deleted.

To Lori:
My God woman, with all the information available to Hillary, if she really believed she was authorizing inspectors to go into Iraq, then she’s really not qualified to be president. When they voted, they voted to authorize war. They knew what they were voting for. Now, they may all be able to act like children and say they were fooled by this president with bad information, (which by the way, since they claim he’s so un-intelligent makes every one of them even more suspect), but for her to continue to stand up and expect us to believe she didn’t know what she was voting for?? At the brink of war?? She’s a liar, and she’ll say anything she has to in order to get your vote. If you think this president is dishonest, go ahead and vote her in and see what you get.

I am not happy with the war in Iraq – but I am way less happy with the thought of Billary Clinton back in the White House. I actually cannot think of a worse possible scenario than for her to be elected President – unless of course it was Al Gore…

You are wrong – hillary and every elected official who voted for the iraq war knew exactly what they were doing. They all saw the same information that Bush saw. Further, I do not need a person like Hillary to make me stop and take a moment just to realize how strong I am as a woman. My four sons, my husband and my entire family tell me this daily as I juggle a full time job, the daily household chores (which my sons AND my husband help me with). I am proud to be more of a productive member of society that Hillary or any other feminist can ever be. Women like me make the world go round, we keep it in order, our husbands and children admire our strengths, our strong hearts, our brilliant minds, I am sorry that Lori has such hatred in her hearts for children, men and dogs. My children, man and dogs all love me and help me – we work together as a family and we will be stronger that those like Lori with her man hating self. And if any of you like Lori feel you can do a better job of running the country, then start doing it. Strap on a gun and go to the border and protect our nation from drug smugglers, from human traffic smugglers, and when our nation is at war, put on a uniform and go over and get on the front line as my lovely niece has, as so many other women have – stop thinking you can act like a man but not be treated as one. God made the two sexes different for a reason. I willingly do dishes, laundry, clean house, etc. because I would much rather do those jobs than change a tire, rebuild a car engine (as my husband is doing now – out of necessity), make plumbing repairs, unclog septic lines. Multi task? You want multi tasking??? Try working on your car AND your son’s car (he cannot because he is in the Army fighting for YOU), both at the same time. You want to see multi tasking by a man? Open your eyes – I see it all the time – yes i do see men who are not able to multi task but i see just as many women also – Yes I am very happy in my life and I do not need liberal male bashing people like Lori to make me feel better about myself. The love of my family and my faith in God takes care of this for me. And a final comment, anyone who tries to justify their about face on the war vote by saying “If I had known then what I know now, I never would have voted to give this President the authority” and that she believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq does not need to be in charge of our nation – they are doing a poor job of protecting our nation if they are only “glancing” at such important information put before them. As leaders of this country it is their obligation to thoroughly research each and every single bill, proposal, amendment, etc. After elections the majority of Americans go back to their daily lives, assuming those they put in office will take care of everything. Parents who want their children to succeed will monitor their children’s progress. Isn’t our freedom and our nation worth it to start monitoring our “leaders?”

Lori, women, like you, also possess the ability to apparently create alternate realities, too. Personally, I wish Senator Clinton fit all those perspectives you projected.
The truth is she has a history of using government to attack enemies, fear of open debate, and hides behind her sex at every opportunity to excuse these continuing character issues at every corner. I want women elected to government, not drama queens. Shirley Chisholm screams out from the grave for a woman capable of being a lioness, not a house cat. A woman that would require election to the office of the Presidency because of her sex is not worthy of the position.
If only Senator Clinton could provide her expertise on futures I’m sure we would all be better off. But we won’t receive any honesty there, much as we will never receive acountability as to why the first ladies had access to FBI records of political opponents of her husband.

If Hillary didn’t know what she was voting on, then she is too stupid to be president. And to Lori; can you keep your next comment to under 10,000 words?

Anyone who believes Hillary did not know the facts when she voted, are as in denial as she seems to be.
The “if I had known then what I know now” excuse holds no water. You either believe and support your convictions, and I do use the term loosely in her case.
Her roadmap to the WhiteHouse is as the wind blows…

Lori, that is one of the most pathetic apologies for a terrible politician that I have ever read. All you are doing is describing incopetence on one of the most important issues the nation has ever faced.
Between James describing, accurately, her inability to admit error, and your unintentional illumination on how Clinton is incompetent (not knowing what she was voting for), this makes Clinton out to be all about her (current) tone, appearance, and spin, the worst qualities a politician can have…
Clearly, Clinton stands for whatever sells. We deserve far better than that.

James, how is it a “mistake” to make a decision based on the information at hand? That is what Bush did.
Lori, your claim that “She has admitted time and time again that she believed she was voting for sending inspectors into iraq” is not backed up by the facts. She knew exactly what she was voting for. Her husband initiated the “regime change” policy of the U.S. Her husband’s Admin. had the same intel as the Bush Admin. If you think that the intel changed much in a span of 2 years, then you are living in a dream world. But I guess that seems to be the case.
The whole “Bush lied” crowd either doesn’t know the definition of the word “lied”, are naive, stupid, or simply downright blinded by their liberal bias. Wake up.

“And probably the most necessary skill we women posess that men do not is our ability to Multi – task.”
Lori – Not only are you blind, but you are also a bigot.
Probably the most necessary skill we conservatives posess that liberals do not is our ability to be rational.

Lori, people call Hillary a liar because (among other things) she tells different stories revolving around her vote on the war.
She has stated what you mentioned – which is NOT true, because at the time of her vote, she said to an anti-war group that her vote was based on what she knew about Saddam and Iraq during her husband’s time in office.
Later she used the pathetic “I thought I was voting for the inspectors” excuse. Now, she’s blabbing on about “If I’d know then what I know now . . . ” and yadda, yadda, yadda.
She’s trying unsuccessfully to walk both sides here. With any luck, this will come around to bite her.

How can you accept the notion that Senator Clinton gave that she thought she was voting to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq? Read the title of the resolution! It clearly states that we were going to WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And if you go back and listen to her speach on the Senate floor you will see that she to came to the same conclution as the President and that we should go to WAR!!!!!!

“She has admitted time and time again that she believed she was voting for sending inspectors into iraq. This is not a MISTAKE!”
Very naive or a Hillary plant? Everyone knew that vote was to authorize war. She voted that for 2 reasons. If it worked she could say she was in favor of it. If it failed she could say she would have done things differently.
Sen. Clinton has no business being President. I don’t understand how any Democrat could vote for this woman. She stands for nothing the party does.

Hillary’s a lier. She lies constantly. When she’s not lying, she’s quibbling, hedging, and masking the truth. Wake up!

lori-take a deep breath and get off the soap box.Do youreally believe what you wrote? 1st-What is or are UN inspectors? That phase was over before the “VOTE” 2nd ALL THE PRESS notified the public that the vote was for yes or no. MS.Clinton should have fired her “breifing” staff.3rd-GULLIBLE-You can honestly believe the spin on this subject of voting on the war. Sounds like John F. Kerry & her husband all over again.

All of you liberals need to get your head out of the sand and remember the actual events as the were. She has said on many occasions that she did her own research on the matter and decided that the vote was correct. President Bush is one of the few men willing to put politics aside and try and protect us and keep the terrorist thugs from attacking us again like 911 (Remember that everyone)
If he were a liberal he would stick his finger in the air and see what he needed to do to get his poll numbers up, like Bill Clinton. He has taken all of the lies and distortions that the liberals and the media have put on him and has refused to attack them. The man has probably saved thousans of lives by being in Iraq and Afghanastan. I know it is easier to blame him than to have the courage to stand up to radicals who want to kill us. (even/especially liberals). Please think before you vote and above all be honest with youself.

Hillary Honest?? You are kidding right? Hillary and Bush are the same person, just a different gender. Pull your head out of the sand.

Hillary didn’t know what she was voting for? We need someone who DOES know – and it isn’t Hillary.

inspectors were in iraq for a long time. why would anyone believe that she thought she was voting to send un inspectors back in? that is absurd. think people…

The resolution CLEARLY autorized force and not just “authority to send inspectors” … we already had that authoruty and they were being refused entry.
Whether you approve or disapprove of the war and Bush’e actions, this is CLEARLY disingenuous and, I think, nearly diasqualifying. How could she POSSIBLY vote for or against such an important issue after only being “briefed”
LCC

So Hillary only voted to send UN inspectors to Iraq in 2002? Then how come she didn’t complain when troops were sent instead? I didn’t hear a peep our of her then.

Lori,
Wow! There is so much in what you said. I hope people read it and realize.
Thanks for your honesty. It helps more than you will ever know.

It is pretty clear Clinton did not read the info and based her vote on apparant heresay. Either way she screwed up. She didnt’t read it or employed someone who was incompetant to brief her. Isn’t this what we have today with GonzoGate?

So she says that she was briefed about what the bill contained and she didn’t understand what was it it!
So did you fire the person that mis-briefed her? And if not, how could she trust someone that totally mis-stated what was in the bill?
How many other things has she not read or understood and then voted on?

If Senator Clinton thought that her vote was only for UN Inspectors to go to Iraq, than she suffers from a form of stupidity and laxness of responsibility that I certainly don’t wish to see carried into the White House. Her statement implies that she didn’t read the bill! Duh!
To think that she could have been so ignorant and off the mark about what her vote was for is unconscionable. It would be one thing if it were some obscure Farm Aid bill, or one of the tedious votes that Congress passes each year. But something this important? Please.
You mean to tell me that she never once conferred with another Senator about the upcoming vote? I seriously doubt her truthfulness on this issue.

Calm down Lori! I would like her to answer the woman’s question. The reason she didn’t is that she (Clinton) did NOT read the report in question. If she won’t own up to that then she’s no better than most, if not all, politicians. As for honesty, we no she’s not because of the lies she told about the Rose Law firm files and other things during her husband’s Presidency!

Hillary doesn’t want to admit she made a mistake, she wants to keep her options open. As seemingly obvious as it is now to say the war vote was a mistake, let’s not forget how obvious a yes vote seemed at the time.
Besides, despite all the uproar from the left about her vote and unwillingness to apologize, no one, even Obama, seems to truly be threatening her nomination. The intelligence was faulty but if Iraq turns out better than what it seems it probably will, she’ll still be able to say it was worth it to remove Saddam. Don’t forget the number of Republicans that support the war still. She hasn’t forgotten there is a general election to try to win.

Hillary cannot fall into the Kerry trap of ‘voting for something before I voted against it’. She needs to stand by her convictions and the facts…if she voted YES, then admit to it…do not tell us that you thought it was just an authorization for inspectors. Show us that you can stand by your vote and support of the time and situation (like 99% of Americans did when it happened).

Hillary always has somebody there to punch out those who oppose her. But don’t expect her syncophants in the media to put her on the spot. ABC, CBS AND NBC are like swooning groupies around her. Too bad she hasn’t got the guts to do interviews with people who will ask her hard-hitting questions and not toss her powder-puff softballs.

Wow, no chance you are a Kool Aid drinking apologist, is there?

She thought she was voting for sending inspectors? Please!

Give me a break, everyone who can remember back to 1997 and 1998 knows that everyone and I mean everyone in cogress right or left knew that Iraq had WMD’s. Now that the war is no longer a popular stand for any one in the Democratic party, its deny, deny, deny.
And now only a woman has the necessary skills to run our country!!
What I see in Hillary is the ultimate politician she will say and do anything to get elected.
This woman scares the hell out of me!

Give me a break..she is being the typical Clinton refusing to give even the basic answer.
If this hyper lady rattled her, I can wait for ethe debates.
Vote for none of the above.

Lori… You made some good points but your sentence, “Dishonesty is not tolerated nor is favortism, lying, cheating, racism of any kind.” is exactly why I could never vote for Hillary. She has a history of all of the above.

Somehow, I have difficulty with the concept that Hillary believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq. I was very attentive to the debate and Senator Robert Byrd was very explicit about what the vote really meant and why he could not vote in favor of it. There are only two plausible reasons why Hilary voted in favor. Either she did not know what she was doing or she was basing her vote on a political calculus in fear of losing her seat. Both reasons prevent me from considering her to be Presidential material.

Had the war in Iraq been fought, won, and our troops safely back home, you can bet Hillary would be front and center taking credit for her vote to authorize the war. Wake up people. She is an opportunist of the worst kind. She will do and say ANYTHING if it’s going to get her votes. It’s amazing how transparent she is…and equally amazing how many people buy into it. She is also a person who says if she’s president she is going to TAKE the profits from the oil companies to pay for her various policy ideas. This is socialism in it’s most naked form. But, keep in mind, she will obviously never do this if she becomes president (nor would she propose it or would it ever get passed). It is an insane idea and she knows it…but she says it because she wants the votes from the radical, socialist left. This is dangerous talk from a person with nothing other than pure ambition on her mind. Very scary indeed. I do not fear a woman holding the highest office in the land. The fear i have is that it might be Hillary Clinton.

If she thought that she was only voting for UN inspectors then she is does not have the intellectual savvy to be president … if she knew otherwise, then she is lying. In either case I don’t think this is a person we want as president. She either does not have the mental capacity or is dishonest to out it kindly.

Hillary knew she was voting to go
to war…they were not voting to
send inspectors…I am a Democrat
snf I have a list of senators who
made speeches from 1995-2000 including Hillary about all the
weapons of mass destruction that
Saadam had stocked in Iraq, the
million he had killed, and the
million that would be murdered in
the next few yrs. of which 600,000
would be six yrs and younger,the
speeches are quite long from her
husband,john kerry, Al Gore,Ted
Kennedy,and the list goes on all
of them agreeing on all of this.
Hillary was fully aware of what
she voted for….she and Bill Clinton tell so many lies they
cannot keep the stories straight.

Amazing! Hillary did not know what she was voting for? If that is so, that is exactly why anyone would consider her to be so incompetent. The title of the bill as well as the wording inside the bill was so clear about the authorization to send troops to Iraq, that anyone not understanding this is either far too ignorant or far too naive to ever be considered competent as president. Further, you have forgotten how many times Bush said he would use force as a last resort. And you’ve forgotten how many times Sadaam rejected reason and diplomacy. You’ve forgotten that the U.N. gave him ultimatum after ultimatum–for 12 years. How many more years would be enough? Talk is wasted on people like you, because you don’t begin to have a clue about world affairs and what’s going on with the forces behind world terrorism.

lori..read for yourself, then tell us again how Hillary managed to pull the wool over your eyes. What Hillary voted on could not be more clear. Each version, (there are 5), clearly is titled, “A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.”
I am a woman, and by no means gullible! I am awake! This country does NOT need Hillary Clinton as its president. Now, I don’t know if what you posted were Hillary’s actual quotes, or your interpretation of them, but whichever they are, they are BOLD-FACED LIES. She clearly DID vote to authorize the use of the United States military in Iraq.

Let’s get one thing straight her people. All the power brokers in the Clinton Administration, including Cankles were convinced that Saddam was a threat to this country and the region (I believe that was true then and military action was necessary) Just look at what Cankles was sayign back then:
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
Cankles will do anything and say anything to get elected, even sell out our troops while they are engaged in combat against Islamo Fascists in the Middle East. She is a dispicable person as is the appeasement monkey who was trying to shout her down. May they both burn in hell.

Vote Hillary in and u will get what u get. Then i will sit back and laugh.

she doesn’t know she’s doing…its sad really

Why hasn’t anybody beem smart enough to ask her, about this continuing nonsense that if she had known then what she knows now she would not have voted yes.
I prefer a President that having faced the situation we faced on 911 and the intelligence provided by many different agencies not just ours about the Saddam regine, chose to act then and not seeking a crystal ball to look into the future.

I appreciate the fact that others have addressed the incredibly misinformed, sexist comments Lori made. Thanks

And so it goes…why should Sen. Clinton get into a big discussion with some nutter in a crowd? Why should Sen. Clinton be held to a higher standard then the President or the Vice President? Bottom line, she made a mistake on Iraq (as did most other candidates). The important thing is what would she do about it now? The Republicans can knock Hillary and the rest of Democratic candidates all they want…but have you gotten a load of their field? Liars one and all. The Republicans keep trying to change the subject…it’s not about Hillary’s vote…it is a Republican war through and through…they deserve all the blame and o0nly by changing to a Democratic President will we stand any chance of getting out of there in the next 20 years.

She was asked “Did you read it?” Bill Clinton did not understand what “is” means, maybe Hillary doesn’t know what “it” means.
This is the woman Democrats want for a president? This country is in trouble.

Hillery Clinton knows exactly what she did.She just dosen’t want to admit it was the right thing. If her Husband woulden’t have gutted the Intelligence and Millitary community and “Turned the other cheek ” to all the things Millitant Islam did we woulden’t be in this mess!

“Turning to Iraq, yesterday was a good day. I was thrilled that Saddam Hussein had finally been captured. Like many of you, I was glued to the television and the radio as I went about my daily business. We owe a great debt of gratitude to our troops, to the president, to our intelligence services, to all who had a hand in apprehending Saddam. Now he will be brought to justice, and we hope that the prospects for peace and stability in Iraq will improve.
I was especially pleased that the capture was led by the 4th Infantry Division, whom I visited in Kirkuk and had a a briefing from the commander, General Odierno, and during that briefing was given some insights into the efforts to apprehend Saddam. And it’s very good news indeed that they have come to fruition.
This moment, however, cannot be just about congratulating ourselves and the Iraqi people for this capture. It should be a moment where we step back and consider how now to go forward. What is it we can do today, based on the circumstances of yesterday, that will strengthen our hand and move the Iraqis closer to a time when they can have self-government and create a stable, free, democratic Iraq?
I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, TO USE FORCE AGAINST SADDAM HUSEIN. I believe that that was the right vote. I have had many disputes and disagreements with the administration over how that authority has been used, but I stand by the vote to provide the authority because I think it was a necessary step in order to maximize the outcome that did occur in the Security Council with the unanimous vote to send in inspectors. And I also knew that our military forces would be successful. But what we did not appreciate fully and what the administration was unprepared for was what would happen the day after.” -
Hillary Rodham Clinton
December 15, 2003
Council on Foreign Relations

If Hillary was on the floor voting and she was not sure what she was voting for, why should she be voted for as president. She read the intelligence everybody else had, she knew what she was voting for and she voted for the war. She can say all day long “If I knew then what I knew today…”. If you don’t know you have no business in politics. Why can’t she say she made a mistake? Even Nixon admitted he made a mistake. Perhaps her husband is rubbing of on her??

Hillary is weak on terrorism, yet strong against the unborn. She and Bill released 16 terrorists from our federal prisons, and on their last day in power released hundreds of criminals, tax cheats, and drug dealers. They sold hi tech satellite equipment to the Chi-Coms in exchange for campaign donation$. As a result the Chinese military machine has advanced 30 years, and is a potential threat against us. The 8 years of the Clinton presidency was a two-fer, so Hillary was ALREADY co-president in my book. Worse still, the Clintons are doing business with the anti-semites in Dubai. “It takes a village of deaf, dumb, and blind to still believe in the Clintons”.

If the DEMS even think about impeachment they need to remember that they have an EQUAL role is government as the executive branch. Therefore, they had access to the exact same information the President had. So, any congressman or senator who authorized the war should be impeached also. Its that simple! Equal and fair treatment for all! And I think our Supreme’s would go for getting rid of the whole bunch of heretics!

Looks like she didn’t read it.
Um, yeah, thats the kind of president we need, someone too busy to bother with war authorizations.
God, we don’t need another no-talent, “I got here because of my family” president.

All Presidential candidates have a VOTE coming up on the “Feingold & Reid” Bill. Of which is removal from IRAQ within 120 days.
This is the bill that will have the amighty weight in the 2008 elections. Why?
As time moves forward the American public shall demand an exit immediately. Further, they will be aware of who had in the past support the measure to leave Iraq in 120 days, as so stated in the
” Feingold & Reid ” Bill.
a) Transition of Mission – The President shall promptly transition the mission of United States forces in Iraq to the limited purposes set forth in subsection (d).
(b) Commencement of Safe, Phased Redeployment from Iraq – The President shall commence the safe, phased redeployment of United States forces from Iraq that are not essential to the purposes set forth in subsection (d). Such redeployment shall begin not later than 120 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
(c) Prohibition on Use of Funds – No funds appropriated or otherwise made available under any provision of law may be obligated or expended to continue the deployment in Iraq of members of the United States Armed Forces after March 31, 2008.
(d) Exception for Limited Purposes – The prohibition under subsection (c) shall not apply to the obligation or expenditure of funds for the limited purposes as follows:
(1) To conduct targeted operations, limited in duration and scope, against members of al Qaeda and other international terrorist organizations.
(2) To provide security for United States infrastructure and personnel.
(3) To train and equip Iraqi security services.
And for those that don’t support such, will let’s just say “GOOD LUCK” trying to explain that as more dead come flying in.
What is happening to McCain will be next for “defunk” Presidential democrats that don’t support the measure.

As an elected official, she has and had a responsibility to know what she was voting for. The fact that she is now claiming that she failed in that regard means that either she is not competent enough to even be a senator let alone president, or she is lying.
Either way she is not presidential material.
There is NO EXCUSE for not knowing exactly what she was voting for. The responsibility lays with her and her alone (don’t even try to pawn this off on some office personnel who briefed her).

If Hillary was ‘mis-led’ she is too naive to be president. Tens of millions of people in this country were not fooled by the liar-in-chief.
If she voted out of her own personal political expediency, she is too corrupt.
Either way, she does not get my vote. I am a lifelong democrat – if she is the nominee, I will sit out 2008. I know many who feel the same way.

To: lori | Apr 14, 2007 8:18:52 PM
(and her previous post as well). I really hate it when people call other people names is blogs but you are so special I will make an exception. You are either a shill for Hillary or an idiot.
Many posts here are using quotes and listing actual facts (before they were altered by people like you) to support their arguments that show what a duplicitous, lying ‘person’ Hillary is. All you can retort with are taunts to the ‘male’ posters. Typical.
And your stating that ”Hillary’s honest ( albeit unpopular) admittance” is such an untruth as to be laughed at. ‘Hillary’ and ‘honest’ are two words that simply do not belong in the same sentence.
By the way, I don’t ‘hate’ you – I do pity your ignorance, however.
I apologize to anyone reading this that was offended by my calling you an idiot.

Mrs Bill Clinton, is clueless. She thinks she is entitled to be president. Question is what has she done to earn our vote? NADDA! Shes a leftist with zero ideas and zero guts…

Shes to much of a coward to go on a FOX NEWS debate…. how is she going to be against IRAN and SYRIA and CHINA? She is UNFIT to be president!

Oh my goodness , did I vote for war?
Did I tell people I had done independant research and that Saddam was a threat? Golly did that husband of mine call for regime change in Iraq? Was I a suopporter of this war until I started running for the presidency? Never mind!

It appears as though both candidates, Clinton and Obama are forgeting that history repeats on xyz.
They need to review bcd history.
As time moves, the will of the people will “examine” their vote on the Feingold & Reid Measure.
Picture a microscope viewing your every step. The issue of the American will is leaving Iraq faster by the day.
How much time passed before they stepped up to the plate and voted to get out?
Math nevers lies.
Nite ~ nite

We all knew what she was voting for and she didn’t. What a moron. And if you give her a pass for such a ridiculous answer, you are not any better.

Would apologizing change anything? She is a loser either way. Hundreds of millions of people around the world knew what was going down as we went to war in Iraq. Hillary admits she was clueless. Do we need another president as incompetent as the current one? If she wants to maintain her position that she was duped by the moron-in-chief then let her. She isn’t going too far with that position anyways.

Sorry, Bernie, my kudos were meant for your post. I didn’t know what i was reading … er, what I was briefed on.

Hillary, tell the truth? Be for real. She hasn’t told the truth since she ran the White House the first 8 years of HER term. And the ” I thought I was voting to send inspectors in” comment. If she was “mistaken” on what she voted for on that issue, what the hell else is she mistaken about and voting on? Get a clue people!

Now I know I tend to lean a little to the right. But I also know that ever since I joined the military, I have been trained on the Ability To Survive and Operate (ATSO) in a chemical and biological environment. I also remember that before I joined (after the first gulf war) there was a young soldier who was in Iraq. He was charged with the inventory of a small munitions bunker that was found in the south of Iraq. While he was measuring the munitions, he had rubbed his forearm against a war head. Soon after, he felt a burning. It was found to be a blister agent seeping from the mortar round. There weren’t a lot of them. But they were there. These were also the same type of war head that was used to deploy other chemical agents into the north against the Kurds. I guess my point is why so many people are pretending that the chemical and biological weapons didn’t exist in Iraq. They did and still may. They could be buried just like the aircraft that were found in the sand. And if they didn’t, why did the regime constantly block and eventually eject the UN inspectors for so many years? In addition, why did the regime fire missiles at coalition aircraft that were patrolling the north and south no-fly zones on a daily basis. That can’t be denied. I saw several streaks across the sky from Incirlick AB, Turkey while I was stationed there. It is a fact that he had the banned weapons. He couldn’t give any proof that he destroyed them. Please excuse my ramblings if you will. I may not know much, but I have been on Iraqi soil twice, Afghan soil once and I know what I have seen and I know what I know. And not one bit of my belief is based off of the media.

Imagine women fighting wars instead of men.
Bunker Hill, Gettisburg, WW1, WW2,Korea, Vietnam, They would never shed the blood that is necessary for LIBERTY and FREEDOM. They would just sit and scream at each other until one could not be heard or give up. That is how women fight battles. Name one conflict where blood was shed and fought by women for Liberty and Freedom of people from oppression in the course of history of this world. Women stronger than men, men can’t multi task, thats funny. Only in resent history have women started to carry their own weight for Liberty. The excuse is men held them back. If it was for real, nothing should stop you.
Hillary is a faker, riding on Bill’s greasy coattails, and some people will believe anything they are told, (or briefed in Hillary’s case, Sir Edmund, remember that story about being named after, yeah, that’s the ticket). You are now being briefed by Hillary. April 1st is past. Get real.

Why don’t you defeatist look back at the comments in the 90s by your beloved politicians. I have two tours in Balad, Iraq and know absolutly we did the right thing. You don’t support us and you never did, My unit voted 99% for President Bush and would do so again. Yes I can hear it now, your robots, blind following the blind. Just to let you all on the left know, I wouldn’t want you on any team I was on including the local chess team. Pathetic.
B Co 171st Avn!

OK…let’s think into the future.
As President, is it possible that she could “think” she is sending food aide but authorizes a thermal nuclear attack instead???
Maybe being able to read should be a prerequisite to becoming President?
Now I won’t be able to sleep at night!

I believe the correct description if “opportunistic carpet bagger”!
They left their long time supporters in Arkansas for the greener ($$$$) pastures of up state New York!

Hillarys Town Hall Meeting Gets Rowdy

A heated exchange for Hilary Clinton today in a town meeting in New Hampshire as she tries for the Democrat nomination for President.
In the briefing, a woman questioned whether Hilary had read the report.  Hilary responded that she had been briefed o…

2008 will be 26 years of the Bush/Clinton influence in the Oval Office!
Way past time for some fresh input and a new outlook!
The Bush’s and the Clinton’s need to take their “Golden Government Parachutes” and disappear into the sunset!
Remember that “total power corrupts” and “power corrupts totally”!!!

If she didn’t know what she was voting on, it doesn’t say much about her decision making process……and SHE wants to be our president. Guess she plans on using the “Force” to guide her decisions.

So Mrs. Clinton thought she was voting to allow inspectors into Iraq…I may have to agree with zombyboy that she might not pack the gear to reside in the oval office if she really thinks that. However, it is much more likely she knew all too well what she was doing when she cast the vote. Many others voted the same way, and based on what her husband thought, the U.N. thought, Tony Blair thought and most reputable intelligence agencies throughout the world including our CIA thought, it appeared Irag had the WMDs. Based on the information available she was 100% right to vote the way she did and I wish she would just say it.
Senators don’t have time to read every part of every bill but one this important, and we knew it was important at that time after Irag had violated 17 consequtive U.N. resolutions, needed thorough vetting. Until proven otherwise I believe she studied it thoroughly and voted her conscience based on available information, as anyone should have done at the time. In retrospect, we all wish this was hadn’t happened, it’s a cinch George W. Bush feels that way.
This little voting oversight, if real, could be compared to the one that that led to the Rose Law Firm records being lost for years, only to show up in a closet in the family quarters of the White House years later. Shazaam! Must have been an inept cleaning lady who lost them.
On another point Re: President Bush and how many portray him as an imbecile. He has an MBA from Harvard, but his dad went to Yale where “W” took his undergraduate. Does the Hasty Pudding crowd really worship the Skull & Bones bunch enough to give him a pass on admission, or was he really capable of earning his honors? What was his GRE score, how did his GPA at Yale stack up, did he receive unmerited privilege, etc?
What ever happened to logic? They’ll bash “W” for a Harvard MBA but say it’s probable that as First Lady of Arkansas Mrs. Clinton read a book on commodities once, put down $2,000, and days later closed her position with a tidy profit of $100,000. Nobody helped her either, right??? I wouldn’t mind that kind of help, please, give me the name of the broker and I’ll wash their car for life. Why try to explain it away? It’s not un-American to know a broker who can make you money.
How about this, “W” JOINS the National Guard during Vietnam and is accused of the lowest form of cowardice, same as Dan Quayle a few years earlier. Folks, a lot of the Guard units went to Vietnam. Mr. Clinton JOINED the National Guard, opted to leave the country rather than show up for training, grow a beard, smoke dope in the U.K., (didn’t inhale) march in war protests and be heralded by some as the greatest President since Lincoln. [Maybe he will go down in history as great, I only point this out to illuminate an apparent double standard.] There were many who didn’t cherish the thought of service in Vietnam, it was a war that shouldn’t have happened, like this one, but why try to be portrayed as a hero and a concientious objector at the same time. Either one is understandable, together they are an oxymoron. (Before anyone asks, yes, I tried to join 3 times during Vietnam but was denied because I was married with child. We were later divorced and I joined the regular Army.)
I hope in this election season we could resort to a dialog based on facts and get away from the double standards. Let’s let each of the candidates present their honest thoughts, desires and abilities and let the electorate have a logical set of data points on which to make a decision. I don’t believe for a minute George W. Bush is as stupid as Rosie says, nor do I think Hillary is as manipulative or cunning as her detractors make her out to be. Fact is…we only know what leaks out, or what we are told, and I for one am not too keen on believing all we hear in the media these days. Unfortunately as voters we know only what focus groups dictate we should hear. Oh give me the days of my granddad’s good friend Harry Truman. What you saw is what you got. Not any more, no matter what side of the aisle, with precious few exceptions.
I would just like to see us quit trying to tear the other side to shreds verbally, thereby eliminating any chance at open and useful debate. That reduces the elective process to nothing more than a mud fight. Having voted and campaigned for both Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan I can tell you that times have changed in politics and not necessarily for the better.
May the best man, or woman, win! Let’s begin to act like we’re on the same team, America’s team, for goodness sake. We are you know.
God bless whoever is elected as President in ’08 and God bless America and ALL those who abide herein.

Hillary is a power-hungry, opportunist freak who would say she supports everything and anything so long as it gets her votes. Should Hillary be elected, you might as well just have your employer send your entire paycheck to DC, because the American Socialist take-over will thence be complete.

Either Hillary is the biggest liar for saying she thought she was voting for inspectors instead of war or the most incompetent for sending troops to war when she thought they would be inspectors. For all the billions spend how many inpectors did she think were going.

The Clintons lie

Hillary like most liberals is just a liar.
Hillary clearly stated in the past that not only did she read and reveiw all the info but claimed that she even met with the old White House Clinton people who confirmed all the info Bush presented. A simple web search will pull up all the info.
Hillary does not worry about lying because she knows democrats care nothing about facts or truth.
She has continued to lie about her vote and changing her story almost daily.
Fact was she knew exactly what she was voting for. In fact it was the stupid dems who DEMANDED a chance to vote on the war. Kerry was key in that. I remember laughing the day Bush told them to go ahead and vote if they wanted a vote. Bush had said prior that the cease fire resolution being violated was all he needed to commit troops. Dems pitched a fit and demanded a chance to vote for the war so they could not appear weak on national defense.
Now they all claimed they were tricked or confused or what ever lame ass excuse they think their uninformed voters will buy.
Really sad if you think about it.

Whether she understood the report or even read it is irrelevant.
When Saddam was captured, and the Leftists were temporarily silenced, Sen. Carpetbagger wasted no time lauding the event and proclaimed how righteous it was.
Any who cannot see past her fair weather posturing is either in severe denial or just plain insane.

It was the great George Orwell that said “The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory.”
This is going to be a long war and there are a great many who do find that intolerable.
Let’s face it, the vast majority of us were for this war when we started it. Far fewer of us still have the resolve to see it through to victory. Hillary always aligns herself with the majority of public opinion. I think it shows a lack of moral fortitude on her part.
Say what you want about George W. Bush but I have to respect a guy who does what he “knows” to be right, even if it flies in the face of conventional wisdom or public opinion. It shows character and, frankly, I think character is a foreign concept to Mrs. Clinton.
And, Lori, dear, I was raised by a single Republican Mom whom I respect more than anyone on this little sphere we call Earth. I am married to a wonderful Republican woman. Neither one of them would vote for Hillary. Mom has a “Draft Condi” T-shirt and I, for one, would vote for Ms. Rice in a heartbeat. Stop politicizing gender — it’s demeaning to a lot of genuinely good women out there.

Listen to her remarks, “If I had known then what I know now, I would never have voted for the war.” Operative word is IF. How many presidents in our history that you know of get to see into future before they make a critical decision? I’m pretty sure the answer is none, Democratic or Republican. Remember, there were 23 line items to vote on in passing that war bill and only 4 were related to WMD. Hillery hasn’t a leg to stand on. That said, I wouldn’t vote for anyone who feels as comfortable as she does with her statement. She’s trying to pull the wool over critically thinking American voters.

Not just Hillary, and please stop the propaganda about “hysteria whipped up by the neo-conservatives”

As a citizen I can tell you that I have tried of this war. It has been an abortion from day one. Just death, destruction, and financial loss for all americans.
For the life of me, I don’t understand how we ever got to Iraq from Afghanistan. There are so many lies out of the White House, I don’t even bother to listen to them anymore. In the nightly news you hear more lies daily.
What they are now doing to these troops with extensions is very disheartening. They must not have a heart at all.
Additionally, there has been one disaster after another for the american people that Bush hasn’t fixed. This administration can’t answer to anything.
I really hope whoever gets in next will understand the seriousness of the job.
Joe Cruzzer
Kansas City,

Hillary, the smartest woman in the world, “can’t recall” if she read the intelligence report on Iraq before she voted for war? All she can remember is “being briefed” on the subject? So, she voted for the war without ever reading the Iraq intelligence report? Sounds like total incompetence to me. And we should trust her as President? I don’t. She’s nothing but a liar like her husband.

“I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, to use force against Saddam Hussein. I believe that that was the right vote. I have had many disputes and disagreements with the administration over how that authority has been used, but I stand by the vote to provide the authority because I think it was a necessary step in order to maximize the outcome that did occur in the Security Council with the unanimous vote to send in inspectors. And I also knew that our military forces would be successful. But what we did not appreciate fully and what the administration was unprepared for was what would happen the day after.”
Hillery Clinton
December 15, 2003

I agree that Hillary Clinton voted the way her constituents wanted her to vote on this issue. Isn’t that what we elect our representatives to do for us? I am not surprised that she would make her decision based on briefings and I am not surprised that she wouldn’t have time to read the entire bill herself.
On the other hand, if she can learn to answer questions a little more directly and honestly, especially when being criticized, she will gain a lot more support from the American voters as a whole. I do see Hillary stumble on occasion but at present I see her as the best person for the job of President. I see her as bright and fair and human and I believe that she wants what is best for all of America.

Hillary is no more capable of admitting she was wrong than our current president.I’ve voted for every Democrat since Mondale but I will absolutely not vote for Hillary.Nader 2008!

It’s a lost cause to argue whether Hillary knew or didn’t know that she was voting for the Iraq War.
Everyone in the United States knows she voted for it. But, when it winds up making her look bad during a campaign, she’ll play it off by perpetuating the stereotypical myth of the dumb and uniformed housewife- the type of person who wakes up one day unaware, and not taking responsibility for what she did the day before. It’s odd that she’d even suggest that the potential for war had eluded her. Hey Hillary, where’ve you been? The answer is simple: she’s been trying to convince us that she’s “moderate”. Never!

Men truly are intimidated by intelligent strong women!

So Hillary just votes, by her own admission she does not know what she is voting on, and she wants to be President. Then when someone confronts her she has them escorted away…very communist like, but then again thats the far left, freedom of speech only applies to those that agree with them. Get out the armbands, and start marching in lock step if she gets elected

Hillary Clinton is on record as having stated clearly that before she voted for the Iraq War Resolution she conducted he own, thorough investigation of the intelligence and it was confirmed by all of former Clinton Administration officials. Her silly attempts to deflect the issue with, ” … if I had known then what we know now … ” is just another one of her deceits. Sheesh, if EVERYONE knew then what we know today there wouldn’t have been an Iraq War. Howard Wolfson twice on Chris Matthews’ Hardball show said Hillary will NEVER apologize for her Iraq War vote. So, we know she conducted her own investigation prior to voting, we know she’s relying on deflection to avoid answering, and we know she will never apologize for her vote. Now all anyone needs to do is connect the dots and understand that she’s painted herself in a corner and before long — to paraphrase David Geffen —- she’ll start lying endlessly as the heat on her increases.

Anyone who was paying attention knew Bush was asking the seante for the authorization to go to war.Hillary’s excuse speakers to her lack of honesty.

How many of you remember that the Semate amd the congress insisted on voting for the war in Iraq a second time. They did this just to make sure everyone knew they were onboard on this issue. All the politcians who say “if I had only known then etc” are liars. They expect that people have forgotten what they said at that time. Most of you have, I haven’t.

She’s weak and dependent on her man, and everybody knows it. The Republicans are hoping to run against her.
This may be the weakest field since Nixon vs. McGovern, which was a low point.

Posted by: lori
“Equality is important. Dishonesty is not tolerated nor is favortism, lying, cheating, racism of any kind.”
This pretty much eliminates EVERYONE, especially two faced LIBERALS

Hillary is in the pocket of the global crime syndicate just like the rest of them.

i have a better chance of winning then she does

It is a shame people like Lori cancels out my vote. I would hope she and others like her are intelligent individuals. To say Hillary thought she was authorizing more inspectors into Iraq is possibly the silliest answer I have ever heard. Why would she think that was the end result of the authorization bill Hillary was briefed on. Didn’t the efforts of the inspectors in the prior 11 years give her cause to question, what else would we do in case they are routinely denied access. Didn’t she think her husbands failed policies over his two terms in dealing with Iraq had failed miserably? She know exactly what she was briefed on and the explicit implications of the bill. She like a majority of her “comrades” to the left of the aisle do not have the guts to stand up for herself and say there was a danger we needed to address and it was.
So, for people like Lori and the other Kool-Aid drinkers please stop insulting our intelligence. If it is true what you are saying, that is even more reason NOT to vote for Hillary to be President. She apparently cannot grasp a simple concept of use of force. Perhaps I could offer Hillary and Lori a piece of advice, if you have a bill authorizing the use of force, aka WAR, you might want to review it yourself as Commander in Chief and not only be briefed on it.

It’s pretty simple, Hilary has been, and *is* derelict in honoring her oath to defend and uphold the Constitution.

“If I had known then what I know now….” Yeah, and if I had known then what I know now my fortune would put that of Bill Gates to shame. This has got to be one of the lamest excuses any politician could say. Reminds me of an old saying that goes:
If ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ were candy and nuts we’d all have a wonderful Christmas.

Ladies and Gentlemen:
If you dream of a perfect female president, your dreams won’t be realised. Hillary is the absolute best woman in America suited to be President. She has a lot of male traits, and this is to her credit. Let her play the Democrats with her “if I knew now what I knew then” b.s. It’s awesome. She’ll come in to office just like her husband did and pass conservative legislation to guarantee a second term. We’re mostly conservative out here in America, aren’t we? Death penalty. Guns. Cruise missile strikes. Radio deregulation. Tax cuts. When will you people accept that the Clintons are center-leaning Republicans in Democrat wolf clothing. Quit freaking out about these guys.

If the war were going very well Hillary would be running all over the country sayign how proud she is for voting for the war. When things go badly, she says she never woudl have voted to go to war. When Saddam was captured she said “This is a big story and I am proud that I helped to authorize our troop presence there”.
Hillary stood on the senate floor and said that Al Queda was (still is) in Iraq and that was one of the reasons she was voting to authorize war.
“In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.”

Obviously, this is another real good example of Hilary repeating what Bill did best – outright, boldface in-our-faces lying!

What a liar. This woman couldn’t tell the truth if she had to.
But I can somewhat believe her
Bill has pulled the wool over
her eyes for years.
If this woman can be fooled this
easily we don’t need her to be
President. If she’s not fooled
easily, again I say she’s lying.

A power mad egomaniac, an out and out liar, if Hillary should get near the Presidency Global warming will seem like a blessing. These people eat their young and leave trails of blood to get what they want….Power!

Hillary Clinton said this today:
“Clinton also said she believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq.”
Here’s what Ms. Clintonian Hack had to say on the Senate floor back in 2002 about the very resolution she voted for:
“Today we are asked whether to give the President of the United States authority to use force in Iraq should diplomatic efforts fail to dismantle Saddam Hussein’s chemical and biological weapons and his nuclear program.”
UN inspectors indeed! Hillary Clinton defines everything that is wrong with American politics today. You Democratic primary voters out there, for the love of God, please vote for Barack Obama. Enough Clintons and Bushes.

Yes, the woman was 100% right thou she could have used a little more finesse. “Mrs. Clinton, this is yes or no question I would like a yes or no answer. Did you …?” You know, like Sean Hannity.
On the other hand I would not have been so kind. “Mrs. Clinton, yes or no, do you still beat your husband”?

Mike said “Ah yes, let’s have another Clinton administration! Those were the good ol’ days.”
Yes, they were Mike. Compared to the lying, constitution breaking, CIA outing, email deleting, trigger happy, election stealing, Katrina bumbling, wiretapping frenzied, smirking president we have in office now.
I have only one thing to say. There shall never be another Bush or Clinton to hold elected office ever again! Anyone with the surname of Clinton and especially Bush should be legally banned from running for president. I don’t want to see those Bush girls twenty years from now trying weasle their way into office. This is a democracy not a monarchy, which the Clintons and Bush’s are trying to convert it to.

Her husband was President for 8 years, did she ever listen to him? Every intelligence group in the world thought they WMD’s, and she new this. Going to war was debatable, and time will tell, but everyone in the world except hindsighted MoveON liberals believed Iraq had WMD’s.

Yes, the woman was 100% right thou she could have used a little more finesse. “Mrs. Clinton, this is yes or no question I would like a yes or no answer. Did you …?” You know, like Sean Hannity.
On the other hand I would not have been so kind. “Mrs. Clinton, yes or no, do you still beat your husband”?

I agree with the early posts. Hillary is a fool. I knew the President was asking for a vote to go to war, and I did not read the report and I wasn’t a U.S. Senator paid to pay attention to details such going to war. Obviously, she is incompetent. Considering she raided Fosters office, a crime scene out of ignorance and her being a lawyer, I accept her explanation. Hillary Clinton truly was not able to understand what was going on! There are other indications that she is seriously stupid or unable to focus on detail. She is a Gorite ( a dedicated disciple of Gore the Prophet of Dome making money at it of course). She believes the earth has a fever and it is bad even though it isn’t as warm now as it was during the Roman Warm Period – more details..

I’m a lowly nobody and I knew Bush and Cheney were lying about WMD and all that BS.
Clinton is lying when she says she did not know Bush and Cheney were lying.
That makes Clinton a liar (and murderer) too…….and she could have been a contender!!

Your liberals should not be allowed to post a comment on a blog, let alone vote for anything.
Idiots…

Hillary thought she was voting to send UN inspectors to Iraq!? Since when does the U.S. Congress vote on where UN ispectors are sent? This is the lamest excuse anyone has ever made about a vote they regret making. This is WORSE than not reading the report. This is incompetence about the function and authority of the Congress versus that of the UN voting body.
I’m sure Lori does understand Hillary’s thinking. They are both equally confused and deluded. Hillary makes herself an utter fool. Lori admires her more because she is a woman, it seems, than for any relevant reason.

The other day on CSPAN a government offical ftom Iraq gave a speech, and afterward did some Q&A with the gathered reporter. The following is a paraphase to a question regarding the situation in Iraq. The official said “Life in Iraq today is bad, but we have hope for the future, life in Iraq under Saddam was bad also, but there was no hope for the future”. Kinda makes you want to say Hmmmmm.

Hillary did the right thing in voting for the war. You people are idiots and will be the first one screaming for help when the terrorist attack again. In a post 9/11 when all the intelligence all around the world said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the President thought it was the best thing to do after the attack on 9/11. You Bush haters need to get over him winning the last election and start thinking about your country and your safety.

Senator Clinton was a 100% for the war until the polls changed… a fine example of leadership.

Lori you poor misguided soul. How pathetic can you be to defend this woman who is lying to her teeth about the Iraq intel. She had access to all the intels her husband Billary had while in the White House. Put down your joint and get sober lady!

I like Hilary, but I lean toward Obama and Edwards more, and kind of keep vascillating between the two of them.
And no, it’s not because she’s a woman. From that standpoint alone, I think we’re long overdue for a woman President.
I would vote for Hilary, as opposed to Republican. I don’t believe in voting party ticket, but for whom you believe is best. Unless the Republicans came up with a literal miracle worker, I’d vote for Hilary.
All that, I said, to say this….
Yes, she DID make a mistake.
She did NOT READ the report.
She was “briefed” on it.
There’s a BIG difference.
Obviously, that’s why she did NOT know what she was really voting for!
And no, that is NOT a good sign. I know they can’t ready 100% of things and rely on “briefs,” but this was important enough for her to FIND THE TIME to read it.
And she didn’t.
And for that, yes, she needs to say “I made a mistake,” but now, it’s too late for that, even.
It would only come across as a compromiser, now, being willing to “say” whatever her “advisors” have suggested she say to win the election.

I am so glad to see many R’blicans disguising themselves as Dems, and writing evil deeds about Hillary! Write and say all you want, but she will be your next President.

Only a moron would vote for a socialist like Hillary Klinton.

I guess all her votes are based on being briefed.But that’s ok then. She screwed this one up, I guess it’s whoever gave the briefings fault which way she voted. I suggest there be a Congressional Investigation to see who screwed up the briefing that caused so many wrong votes. And also check all her other votes to make sure they didn’t get screwed up too. And don’t forget to check the emails !! Go get ‘em Hill. Bet you got a Million more of those laying around. Too bad the Networks don’t have any real news happening like 100 story buildings being taken down by hijacked airlines on a jihad. Nope, that only happens in Hollywood. Or maybe just invent news to stay busy.No, they wouldn’t do that, they just report the news.

All you LIb’s need to take a deep breath. Ole’ Hill is a big time commie. sleep e-z. thank god for george bush. he keeps us safe.

Give me a break. She did not know what she voted for? WAKE UP people. This is just total BS. If she did not know what she voted on then she shouldn’t run for ANY public office. Enough is enough. You either support our effort in Iraq or you do not. I don’t care what side you are on, just be honest about it.

Hillary’s a joke

Even though the bill authorized the use of force, the president could still could have choosen not to use force. Only .000001% of the people actually expected him not to use force, but the amazing thing is that somehow at least 2 of them were in the Senate AT the same time AND have been presidential candidates. (Kerry & Clinton). Think off the odds.
If Clinton is telling the truth, she is not responsible enough to be president. (Kinda like parent who gives a 4 yo a loaded gun, its possible nothing will happen, but…..)
If Clinton is lying, she is lying.

Are you kidding me?!? She was briefed and never read it? Now come on, even you libs have to laugh at that one. She has learned the art of ‘truth’ telling at the feet of the master, that is for sure. “I was briefed” ROFLMAO!
Now to the kind person that tried ad nausem to explain her vote to us, please stop..before you hurt yourself. You wrote that she thought, “she was voting to send inspectors”, I would laugh, I but think you honestly believe this..My friends, Mrs. Sen. Bill Clinton has NO chance at becoming President, if she does by some act of hell become President, half this country will move to Mexico. Frankly, it serves them right..” I was briefed…” LOLOLOL..best line of the weekend..

It truly puzzles me how some people are so fixated on Hillary’s authorization vote, as if that vote is the sole source for everything that has gone wrong in Iraq. With that vote, Hillary and others didn’t make ‘the’ decision to go to war, that vote gave the president the authority to make that decision in a time when many in this country were uncertain about their security and fearful of future terroist threats.
I have been against this war from the beginning, but I certainly do not blame Hillary for Bush’s decision to take us to war and the mismangement of the war operation that has followed. I think we as Democrats would be much better served to focus our anger about this war where it belongs..at Bush and his war team.

THE BUSHES THE CLINTONS THE KERRYS ARE ALL ONE AND THE SAME IVY LEAGUE COLLEGE EDUCATED . THEY ARE ALL NEW WORLD ORDER PROMOTERS AND CROOKS. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO MARCH ON DC AND PHYSICALLY REMOVE ALL THE IVY LEAGUE FROM OFFICE. SOON THESE GREEDY POLITICANS ARE GOING TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING TO 10 PLUS TRILLION DOLLARS. NOTHING CHANGES EXCEPT WHO IS IN POWER TO STEAL THE TAX DOLLARS. IT IS TIME TO SAY GET RID OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND THEIR BAND OF CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!

hey people, a couple of things first…. i read all the comments and i must say right off….the clintons may be liars but so are all the politicians in washington most especially GW who took us to war with his neo con cronies. they told lots of lies…it looked politically expidient for the rest of the politicians to vote against that move….that was wrong….hillary did wrong …but then here are other facts that u guys are forgetting….
we need a democrat that has the wits to do what has to b done and at the same time survive the republican machine when in office….the clintons got a track record and she got my vote…..barak obama reminds me of jimmy carter…nice guy but no guts….edwards cant win…hillary has got bill so she will.
the fact is that if we accept all politicians are liars then i would still pick a hilary who is linked to a president that as u all seem to have forgotten gave this country so much economic prosperity and success that we all had jobs for 8yrs..u guys forgot…
vote hiary…kick bush out…he failed..
the senators voted for the war cos it was politically expidient…thats what senators do…not just hilary…only person who doenst have to do that is the president…
he should have briefed them properly instead of working up a frenzy

WOW! It’s great to see soooo many of you ‘silent majority’ out there! Not only does she (Hillary) not know what she does or doesn’t read, she is terrified of FOX news!! What kind of world-leader is terrified of a news organization, as opposed to a ‘terrorist’? Has to make one wonder. Plus, can’t even handle her own man…How’s she going to handle ALL the ones in Washington? If HE could lead her down the garden path, who knows what THEY will do!! Especially if she couldn’t even get the ‘reason for war’ right. DUH!!

Let me see if I understand this. Hillary whose husband had said on many occasions that Saddam the merciful had WMD and of course never mentioned it to her.She might have been very busy searching for the Rose law firm records which turned up in her night stand with her finger prints to pay any attention. I seem to remember her speech where she proudly said she had researched the WMD issue and KNEW that they were there.As did most of the known world.She should have scream at Sandy Berger > February 18, 1998
“He’ll use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has 10 times since 1983.”
Madeleine Albright > November 10, 1999
“Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002
“It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”

I watched the vote for going to war that day on C-Span, and if Clinton thought she was voting for inspectors, she was the only one, everyone else was voting to send us to WAR, Clinton is a bald face LIER!

Hillary Clinton is a well-educated women, and sophisticated in the ways of politics. For her to state that she believed she was voting to send UN inspectors to Iraq (when the United States has no authority or power to dictate what the UN does) is laughable. I suspect that her consultants and focus groups suggested to her that such a falsification would be believed by a significant percentage of potential voters. I believe that Hillary Clinton will say anything, and probably do anything, to get elected President. Just what we need, another President who has no core values.

And we are supposed to reward her incompetence with the American Presidency?

“Clinton also said she believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq.”
This statement in itself is the joke of the year. Since when does the Unites States President authorize for the UNITED NATIONS to send inspectors anywhere? The President does not dictate UN policy. Asking Congress to vote for a bill to authorize United Nations inspectors to go to Iraq is totally absurd, but yet you Hillary supporters suck up that excuse as if its’ the gospel.

What a LAME excuse this is. Since when does ANY president need ANYONE’S permission to send inspectors into Iraq, especially since the UN ALREADY authorized it, and Saddam ALREADY agreed? This is nothing more then a PATHETIC excuse Hillery came up with in order to deflect responsibility for her vote. She knew VERY WELL what she was voting for. And if she didn’t, then she does NOT need to be president! The resolution NEVER even mentions inspectors!

Mrs. Clinton pandering. A kerry moment. “I voted for it before I turned against it (so I could run for president)” This was perhaps the first unexpected hardball question that managed to get through Clinton’s well-oiled screening apparatus. There will be many more. Soon her real nature as a shrill, strident hag will emerge. Clinton’s days as a candidate are numbered. Her real persona cannot be covered indefinitely. Stay tuned for her Dean Moment. It will be edifying.

Gee lorie, women are better at multi-tasking. You can be naive, ignorant, and silly simultaneously

Wasn’t she co president for 8 years, at least Bill thought so according to the 1992 interview on 60 minutes.
They both thought that Sadam Hussein had nuclear weapons. Bill Clinton said so many times.
She knew exactly what she ws voting for. Look at the many times she talked about being proud of her vote on the senate floor.

The thought of this woman as President should be an inspiration for Stephen King’s next novel.

Hillary will tell you whatever you want to hear. Keep listening.

Her husbands intelligence reports said the same thing as Bushs. Her lame exuse for her vote is laughable. Democrat after democrat, including Hillary, gave speeches on the Senate floor and elsewhere touting Saddams possession of WMDs. She’s a pathetic liar just like her husband and is counting on the ill informed and ignorant to vote for her. Like they always do.

Oh Jeeez. OK, Lori posted something stupid that was factually inaccurate! She tried to defend Hillary but misrepresented what Hillary’s position is. Big deal. Get over the attacks on Lori! There are 205 posts on this thread and most directed towards Lori. Lori was wrong. We get it. Move on. If all you GOP’ers get off on feeling superior to a single pro-Hillary poster on a comment thread, then that’s really indicative of how stupid you must feel nowadays with the state of the world under the Bush presidency. “The world is crumbling around us, but at least we can still bash Lori.” Morons.

A good leader takes risks, often makes decisions others are afraid to, and has a vision of what is in the best interest of our country. This does not describe a democrat. Put one in the White House and we will be attacked again. Can’t seem to recall being hit since 9/11 here in the US….All the other social issues will be non-issues if our country takes another direct hit. God Bless this country and pray that the American people who listen to little soundbites will somehow get “it” that these Dems care nothing about national security.

Hilary of course supported the war in IRaq as she is smart enought to understand that we are in a war with islamo-fascists – a war they declared on us.
What WOULD be disturbing and would DISQUALIFY her for office would be if she CHANGED her position now for political gain in order to curry favor with the lemming-like left wing of her party.

Hilary is unbelievable and a lawyer. Lawyers are known for framing issues into concise language but Hilary can’t even answer a direct question on whether she read what she voted on? Furthermore, if she is a multi-tasking woman, how come she couldn’t keep track of Bill’s women who came to the White House? Bill’s eggregious conduct with a subordinate employee at the workplace on government time is unforgivable. Hilary knew this and did nothing so she is not a leader in any form or fashion!

Send inspectors or send bombs? How does Hillary think it helps her case to admit the nuances went right over her head. Should she be elected, will these briefers follow her to the White House?

Here is the answer to make Lori happy. It would be great to have a woman in the tradition of Golda and Margaret. Lets support Condi. she has far more credentials than Hillary and she fills the “Black” presidential opportunity position as well as the female. Now if she was only an american indian or of Latin descent she could be a trifecta!!!

She was “briefed”? She is a snake and anyone who would vote for this crazy woman has to be a very shallow person. Just because she is the “wife” of a president who is the one usually “de-briefing” doesnt make her presidential material. In fact, it shows again just how stupid she is and exactly what kind of decisions she is capable of making. Drink you kool-aide “billary” followers and follow the snake!!

I would not vote for any person who had a cheating spouse and stayed.
If she had divorced the POS, I would at least have respected her.
With both Clintons, it’s just one lie and deception after another.

Come on everyone. Let’s vote for somebody that thinks we are all idiots. Everyone will soon see what the leaders of this islamist movement have in store for us and god forbid if she is president…..

Clinton, Obama, McCain, Rudy, it does not matter. Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that “there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between” Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protestors, banning books, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.

Don’t forget what Hillary said when Saddam was caught. She said she confirmed she voted to send force if necessary and congratulated Pres. Bush and the TRoops. In addition, she reiterated her voted was “the right thing to do”.

Is it too much to ask that a US Senator read legislation that could take the country to war before she votes on it?
That is why Hillary will never get my vote!

Vote for Hillary at your own peril!
It scares me how easily she lies.
She was privy to all of the information on Iraq. Remember she was co-president for eight years.
The Clinton’s spent eight years destoying our military.
It’s a wonder we have done as well as we have. Mainly, because of the brave men and women that wear our uniforms!
Thank God they are a better quality of person than the people that run this country!!!!!!!

I astonishes me that people can be so racist as to not care that Saddam was murdering hundreds of thousands of people, and all you wanted to do was sit by and do nothing.
Now you want to pull out and let Iraq fall to terrorists streaming into the country to try and create a Taliban-style state where women are treated like dirt, and if you’re gay you’re killed.
I guess as long as you feel good about what you’re saying, that’s what really matters.
You people make me sick.

On especially humanitarian and political grounds, the liberation of Iraq was necessary and just as Iraq was an imploding state, that gathering international forces on the Iraqi border shooed the Koreans in Damascus who were hoping to broker a deal with Saddam for long range missiles. Unfortunately, along with the perfect preemption comes 10,000 “what if’s” of possible conspiracy’s.

Please, Hilary is counting on uneducated people to propel her to the white house. It doesn’t matter if your for the war or not the biggest deception was believed by New York when they elected her. WAKE UP AMERICA she is spam email in human form.

Mjjp, don’t compare her to the “rest of us” she is a senator, former first lady and a damn good lawyer for god sake. If she can’t read a bill that clearly authorize us to go to war, then I don’t know if she can be a president. Actually, every person who paid attention back then knew that we were going in Iraq. So, wake up…

People, you had better wake up, Hillary like Bill are not Democrats first, they are Clinton’s first. They will do what ever it takes to advance their own personal agenda before they would ever think of the country or the party.

Lori your not to smart are you?

On Iraq war vote, Hillary pleads ignorance

According the the ABC News website, Senator Hillary Clinton claimed, in response to a heated question from the audience, she didn’t really understand what she was voting for in October 2002 when she voted for the war in Iraq:
Clinton also said she bel…

Won’t matter in a year or two anyway. We’ll be knee deep in a pandemic and elections will probably be the last things on people’s minds.
Avian flu outbreaks in Egypt, Indonesia, China and others right now ensure that it’s only a matter of time before we’re screwed. The fatality rate for those infected is 78% and they’re predicting 35% of the world population will be infected…do the math. )ver 300 have died now with more cases in early April this year than occured in all of last April combined. It’s coming … Hillary … Thompson … Edwards … Gulliani … won’t matter IMHO.

ok,I’ve read EVERY post up to this point (not briefed)
I feel pretty relieved by the quality (or lack thereof) from both sides of the issue.
I’ve not read one comment about Hillary’s weaknesses that even remotely related to her gender.
However it is not the Hillary discussion that has captured my attention the most,but rather the continued comments regarding “the war in Iraq”.
Iraq and Afganistan, are merely “fronts” in the real war, which is “global terrorism,”
I personally HATE war,I hate our AMERICAN sons and daughters,brothers and sisters,fathers and mothers,aunts and uncles,(hereafter referred to as our “soldiers”) sacrificing important parts of their bodies,minds, and yes even some ultimitately their lives.
This, however ugly, IS the cost of FREEDOM, the same freedom that allows us to have this very medium to debate our personal views openly.
I support the entire AMERICAN government’s decision to choose that the continued attacks against our SOLDIERS [1.)the Khobar Towers Military complex in Dhahran, Saudia Arabia was bombed by terrorists killing 19. 2.)On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down. Eighteen American soldiers are attacked and killed in Mogadishu, Somalia. A U.S. indictment later charged bin Laden and his followers with training the attackers. 3.)November 13, 1995: Five US soldiers and two Indian nationals are killed and more than 60 people wounded when a car bomb explodes in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 4.)October 12, 2000: 17 US sailors killed and 38 injured when a suicide attack on USS Cole in Aden is carried out] and I haven’t even begun to list the attacks by “terrorists” on AMERICAN civilians worldwide,DOES constitute the authority to go to war against the real enemies of our freedoms.
Whether you like or dislike this President, for whatever litany of reasons to might have, make no mistake about this, he has decided to defend these freedoms,in spite of those in this Great Nation who choose to undermine his efforts.
I praise God,Allah,Buddah,or whomever you choose to believe as your “higher power”that WE AMERICANS, have brave men and women, who are still willing, knowing the risks, to make the personal sacrifices necessary to defend the freedoms, our founding fathers sacrificied so much for.
Our Nation is the greatest on the face of Earth, because of them, and I propose we support them 100% if not out of respect for their courage, but our own sense of self preservation.

Lori’s endorsement of Margaret Thatcher is touching.

Personally I think we need a Average, Down to Earth person in the White House.We do NOT need another attorney, Hillary is one,so are 98% of the other people running.Attorneys do 2 things, they Litigate and Manipulate…Tom Tancredo is a Teacher, and I think he is Down to Earth.

AS A REPUBLICAN, I WANT HILLARY TO BE NOMINATED BECAUSE SHE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO HIDE FROM THE DEBATES ABOUT HER WHITE WATER INVOLVEMENT AND HOW THESE PAPERS FINALLY SHOWED UP IN HER PRIVATE RESIDENCE WITH HER FINGER PRINTS ON THEM I KNOW SOME OF THE LIBERALS SAY THIS IS OLD STUFF BUT HOW MANY LIVES WERE RUINED BECAUSE OF HER INVOLVEMENT WITH BILL. THINK ABOUT THIS…EVERY EMPLOYEE OF THE CLINTONS HAD TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY, INCLUDING BILLS PERSONAL SECRETARY TO PROTECT THEMSELVES…HAVE EITHER ONE PAID FOR THEIR LAWYERS WITH THEIR BOOK DEALS…OF COURSE NOT.

1. The entire country knew the vote was to authorize war. So she’s lying.
2. She was briefed on the report by her own staff members. They read it and agreed with the President.
3. Liberals are such lemmings. Pitiful. Where was she speaking? New Jersey…oh oh oh, run to Rutgers!!!

The Lori()s of the world deserve a pair like Hillary and Bill.

Lack of knowledge on the subject you are about to vote on is certaintly no qualifying point for someone who expects to run for president(ha ha what a joke)…Kerry and many other democ rats also have used the same excuse even thought they were on the Senate/House Intelligence committee…they received the same information that Presiden Bush and the Republicans did..they were too wrapped up in vacations and their own getting reelected agendas to pay much attention to anything that would benefit this country…

this is what they want. everyone divided and fighting like school kids over trivial things instead of coming together and focusing on the real matters of importance. if we win the war on terror, what will we have won? and who will we fight next? who will be the real winners in this war on terror? ask the bigger questions. please.

Hillary Gets Shouted At By Shrieking Moonbat

This is actually pretty funny. Funny because the Dems brought it on themselves with all their rhetoric about Halliburton and Americans being mislead into war. After fielding many questions ranging from mental health care to veteran affairs at a Town…

On Second Thought…Again

It seemed early on that she would have taken a Churchillian high-road, to make herself strong on defense issues. But the emergence of Obama has made that aforementioned left-flank weaker than a New Orleans levee. So she appears to be doing anything s…

I.e. lori | Apr 14, 2007 6:12:56 PM
To lori…let me get this straight, Bush the dummy duped the smartest woman in the world? {his critics opinion of him not mine] Who is the real dummy here? Besides give me a break she knew what she was voting for, this If I knew now BS is just that BS. Funny how all the dems were saying the same things about Saddam prior to GWs’ election. Smarten up or try being honest with yourself.

An easy question for Hillary and other Democrats, why didn’t they bother to ask Bill Clinton what he thought of Bush’s claims.
As a President that ordered almost daily bombings of Iraq because of their “chemical, biological, and nuclear” weapons, I’m sure Hillary’s “co-President” could have told them it was all a fraud and that he even used bombing of Iraq so that his impeachment proceedings would be taken off the front page.

All dems knew. They are now the cut and run people who think politics before they think patriotism. Don’t vote for any of them.

I have no use for people who can tell the story of the Iraq war without once mentioning Saddam.

Gee, If I knew back in 1992 and 1998 what I know today, I never would have voted for a Clinton

The intelligence information that was used to justify going to war in Iraq is, by in large, the same information that was used by the previous administration. Everyone that voted for the war authorization knew exactly what they were voting for. I believe it was ultimately bad intel and a bad decision to act on bad intel but it was’nt a lie and if it was then the previous administration and many democrats in congress are complicit in the lie.

For 8 years we had a “co-presidency”, 2 for the price of one. Mrs Clinton had more info on this subject than anyone around since she already had 8 years on the subject. Didn’t Bill announce that there were WMD’s then. If the Clintons’ had not stop the flow of info between the FBI and the CIA many of our problems would not have occured. And the reason they had good old Jamie in Justice send the memo was to protect the Clintons and all their shady dealings. What ever the Clintons do is for their own personal gain. Hilliary was bad mouthing Israel, praising the Palestinians before she ran for Senate. Oops, she needed the Jewish vote so she stopped her anti Israel comments. They are anti women, anti business, anti labor , anti America. Their only loyalties are green…. who ever pays them the most.

It seems all too convenient to pass blame for the war vote to a President and the lack of reading an intelligence report with such drastic consequences. I don’t believe for a second that she didn’t vote because it was the prescient, patriotic, and American thing to do at that time! She has no intrinsic notion of being an American and I, for one, abhor the thought of her being our president and Commander in Chief when she can’t even own up to her public record vote for the war.

Does anybody think that if the war went well, that if we got in, got out, and Iraq settled down democratically, that HRC and her ilk would not now be patting themselves on the back for their wisdom in voting for the president’s war powers? Think hard, now.

I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED “AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE USE OF FORCE” THAT IS WHAT SEN CLINTON VOTED FOR. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS VOTING FOR. THE DEMS WERE FOR IT. IT HAD VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH INSPECTIONS! SAY IT SLOW…….”AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE USE OF FORCE” THAT IS WHAT SHE
VOTED FOR!

Hillary has explained her vote enough. Those who keep trying to bring her down over it would not support her anyway.
The country has moved on. All polls on the Iraq question indicate that Democrats, nationally, do not hold Hillary’s vote against her.
Only 14 percent think she should say she was wrong. That number in large part, comprises the netroots Dems, who are so anti-Hillary they seethe with hatred.
Give it up folks. This mantra is old and tired and, judging from all the polls, it has also been ineffective at hurting Hillary.

Why bother asking Hillary for the truth on any subject? I have fought in Iraq, and trust me, we aren’t losing, except in the mind of liberals-who wouldn’t join the military if their lives depended on it. If the military took total control of this war, i.e. remove the politicians, it would be you libs complaining. Honestly libs, could you imagine Saddam still in power, along with Iran’s nut job of a president? Just go back to your global whining, please!

Earth to Lori…..

She didn’t know a bill titled: “AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002″ was a motion in support of war?
Hillary must be the one who put the dim in Democrat.
Or perhaps that is insult to liars [and one particular liar in specific] as Hillary’s floor speech on the bill specifically addresses the question of whether she was willing to support a decision to go to war if Saddam did not submit [she was]. Hillary was not interested in seeing this countrey “rush to war” but she was certainly willing to go there. Her summation and concluding paragraph in that speech weas as follows:
“So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him – use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein – this is your last chance – disarm or be disarmed.”

Women like Lori scare me. They will vote for Hillary only because they hate men and she is a woman. It is so easy to educate yourself! There will be many good presidential options out there, read and read some more and make an informed decision. Hillary is not the answer to your hatred of men.

Are you kidding me Lori? Putting the words “honest” and “Clinton” in the same sentence is laughable. I think you are hell bent on putting a woman in office as opposed to the most qualified, sounds like a typical liberal tactic to me.
And this country needs a mother???? Did you try and say that Mrs. Bill Clinton would put the country before herself?? It sounds like you also inhale. The Hildabeast is the most self centered, egotistical witch on the planet. She has already demonstrated that power and prestige are more important to her than doing what’s right for this country or she would be behind our troops and President Bush to help ensure victory and the self preservation of our wonderful country! Get a clue lady!

I don’t know whats worse… Hillary Rodham Clinton
or Obama Hussein Barrack
Is there a check for none of the above.

OF COURSE SHE READ IT! She had the same information that Bush had and that is why she voted for the war!!!! Oh but wait…..Bush was the only one that lied though……. What a bunch garbage! The democrats are so full of garbage it’s not even funny!

I agree. If Hillary didn’t know exactly what she was voting for regarding Iraq, she is not smart enough to be president. She knew exactly what she was voting for and those that buy into her lies need to have their heads examined.

She was voting for inspectors going to Iraq? what type of crap is that. She was voting for regime change just like all the other democrats and republicans were. No American President, I repeat no American president is going to pull troops out of Iraq until the situation is stable enough to support our strategic interests. Iran cannot be allowed to further their interests in the gulf region. All you peaceniks who think we should run home should be ready to walk to work and be ready to house some elderly neighbors from the Midwest and Northeast who won’t able to afford heat.

Hillary has a history of being “tricked by men.” How could you possibly elect her President. She is always getting cheated on by men and Ahmajinedad would love to trick her again.

Mrs. Bill doesn’t give a damn about anything but personal power. If elected, this chameleon will say anything just as long as she can fulfill her socialist principles of redistributing our wealth. Should Los Angles disappear in a cloud of bomb smoke, she will blame everyone but her [un]informed self when it happens. Being bogged down in details stands in the way of wielding power and collecting money.

It really doesn’t matter who voted for what in the sense that partisan divides are as much a part of the harming of our society as are civil rights abuses, racial prejudice, and capitalism at ‘all costs’ agendas.
Sometimes the decisions made don’t always look to be the right ones, but most of the American people are not privy to the ‘Big Picture’, or the information inside the envelope, so to speak. Although some have figured it out, many have not.
This brings about unrest, and feelings of hatred, even if the decision was made for the morally right reasons.
The impact on the people who have suffered great loss to try and carry out the right decisions is staggering, but they are heroes regardless of whether the objective is clear or not.
Unfortunately, survival of the fittest has been taught too long. Free speech abuse has pushed the envelope beyond containment, and just changing the channel is no longer an option.
The majority society has been systematically brainwashed to only care about their own little piece of the world, while injustice and lawlessness run rampant throughout the world.
We need a leader who stands for one thing only, the willingness to take the high road of moral rightness. One with no ties to special interest groups, lobbyists, political persuasion pundits, or other outside influences that would ‘shape’ their decisions.
Only one candidate comes to mind, and although He is already in charge, and rules from a distance, He allows mankind to have freewill to either do what’s right or wrong…to either help or hurt humanity.
Which brings me to my point, no one on this earth is perfect, but some are much closer than others.
So the choice has to be someone who is totally committed to the same agenda of nothing other than the campaign platform of perfect love for all mankind.
Even if such a candidate were in the running, I don’t think the majority would ever elect him or her as president, which brings me to my second point…Dear Lord God please help US.

Hillary: Liar, Liar, pants(uit) on fire…..

Try reading HJ Resolution 114. This is the document that authorizes “use of the United States Armed Foreces against Iraq.” Hilllary and 29 other democrats (including prominent senators such as Biden, Kerry, Daschle, Dodd, Edwards, Feinstein, Graham, Rockefeller, Schumer and Torricelli) voted “yea” to approve this resolution. Actually, if it were up to the democratic senators alone, we still would have gone to war as they voted 29-21 to approve this resolution. Were they also “briefed” on this document? Is that Hillary’s excuse? She was only “briefed?” Are you kidding me? Is this the kind of leader you want? One whom only gets “briefed” when it comes to decisions about going to war? I read it, and it looks pretty obvious to me what it is all about. Hillary and her supporters need to get a clue.

If every baseball team last year knew the Cardinals would win the World Series, would they have played any games then? Hillary is a joke.

For Dirik Lolkus, Lori and others who attempt to deny the need for war. As a mother of 4 sons, I pray for peace every single moment I can throughout the day and night (and I have Army sons). For those of you who attempt to say there were no WMD’s, you are wrong. Saddam was a single weapon of mass destruction as were the chemical weapons he had – yes he had them – only fools believe otherwise. Ever talked with an American soldier who has witnessed the uncovering of mass graves? Ever seen the face of utter despair on that soldier’s face when he recounts the events leading up to finding, uncovering of mass graves and then seeing first hand the thousands of men women and children’s bodies – mothers clutching their babies utter helplessness as they die together? (and lori if you hate your crying babies, barking dog and screaming husband – leave them – they will be better off without you) and lori your attempts to “strike a nerve” with the male population is a joke – you are a joke as are all women (and men for that matter) – for our nation to turn a blind eye as saddam mutilates is a sin in itself. Women like you lori are the reason women like me grow stronger every day. And what is wrong with the men out there hating you and hillary? you both hate men – as is typical for women like you – you want to rant and spew forth hatred and bigotry but get upset when others do it to you. You want “equal rights” yet when you try to act like a man you better be ready to be treated like one. By the way, why aren’t you and hillary and nancy and all those other man haters out there pushing for women in other repressed nations to have the same rights you now have? because you are a selfish moron that is why. God help your family.

To: “Posted by: Reid-Feingold measure.”
Chris Dodd is an idiot.

She voted to go to war on a brief. I’d think an important decision like that, she might want read the report herself. It really makes me nervous the thought of her being pres.

How could anyone in any state of sanity vote for Hillary? They must not hear anything she says or sees anything she does or remember anything she did.
It just goes to show how serious of a decline this country is in. If you feel you have any sense of patriotism, you need to ensure she doesn’t get nominated.

1. If you are absolutely incompetent that you didn’t even know what you were voting for, then you shouldn’t even be a meter maid let alone a United States Senator.
2. She voted for the authorization because she wanted to a) appear that she has a pair (unlike her husband) b) and to show that the Democratic party isn’t weak on national defense.
3. She voted for it so that she can say that she voted for a victory.
4. Now like her husband, she is trying to waffle and flip-flop.

Gee, If I had a dollar for every time I heard or said. ” if I knew then what I know now”.
So, she really didn’t vote for the war..won’t apologise and now apparently didn’t know what she was voting on. Not only didn’t read anything but also a had very poor briefing or where the briefers/advisors not doing thier jobs?

The nest president will be a white republican male. All you braless, pacifist, Hillary loving hippies can go bake a cake and clean your houses until your husbands come home, unless you are a lesbian, and submit to his every desire, that is if you are still desirable and not a fat, ugly, wrinkled old maid. Put that in your pipe and smoke that and stop ruining my life.

Hey Lori. Grape or Fruit Punch?

Well, voting for the war or not, I think one Clinton (really two it was a joint effort [oops sorry Bill!]) and two Bushes is enough.
I would like to see a real bevy of real options. Not these “packages” that are “handled” and “focus grouped” into oblivion. I mean really….in today’s climate, what sane individual would WANT to be the POTUS???

Comments proceed from the meme that there is something wrong with the congressional authorization for war to depose Saddam regime. Where was such permission when Pres Clinton ordered bombing and death of 6000 civilians under Wesley Clarke’s comand in Serbia in 98? Why no outrage when U.S. rained down blitzkrieg on Belgrade. Not a single military target bombed. Just the Power station, bridges used by Serbians to and from work. 6000 colateral damage.
Meanwhile no debate in Congress as to the presidents authority or lack of, to wage an “illegal” war in Serbia, except from rep. Kurt Weldon. All debate in Congress from 98 on was of WMD, UN violations by Sadam Regime, and Regime change.
Meanwhile “Oil for ‘Food’” extortion proceeded apace, with backing from Left, as well as end to sanctions, also prefered by Code Pink, with billions used to pepetuate a Saddam regime, and his WMD program, now exported to Syria.
Clintons have an other war, with civilian death that doesn’t get mentioned, in Serbia, because the effort is to get at Pres. Bush, even if Hillary takes the heat as well. Great Plan. At least it deflects from “illegal” Serbian war.

Any woman who would vote for such a disgrace to women just because she is a woman should be pitied for backing such a poor example for a female leader, just to raise women in public opinion in general. There are so many other women with much better reputations for honesty and integrity than this poor excuse. She is a lying, conniving woman lacking any scruples, willing to destroy anyone standing in her way to reach her objectives. Surely women and men must be aware of this untrustworthy, dishonest person known as Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Is anybody actually positive that what Lori said in her comments is anything more than sarcasm? Well-written sarcasm considering how many arguments she started.

How could Hilary Clinton possibly believe that she was voting to give the President the authority to send UN inspectors into Iraq? Such a decision is not under the purview of the Prsident or the Congress, and, FYI, inspections of Iraq were already mandated by existing UN resolutions. Hello?
Only those who choose not to look at the facts by drinking deeply of the Clinton cult of personality could consider themselves politically informed and fail to resolve what surely must be an internally defeaning level of cognitive dissonance. Confronted with a need for mass psycholgical denial, represntatives of this crowd in NH must then raise their external decibel level to a degree that it drowns out any questions, like a child covering their ears and singing “lalalala” when they don’t like what they hear. Just as intellectually curious, too.
Its an old and successful technique, but questioning even the most absurd Clinton claims – in this instance her spin of a pro-war vote as an “oops, I was fooled into thinking I was voting on a non-sovereign matter that had been enacted over a decade ago” is treated as a malicious persoanl attack. Of course, casting aside all criticism or questions as the agenda of vengeful “enemies” is ludicrous, disengenous, and paranoid.
Seeking the truth in an honest way is NOT a transgression. When the answer to a question raises even more questions, its reasonable to seek more answers. Far too often more answers are needed from Clinton, and too often her fallback response is to simply impugn and malign the questioner.
Of course it could be true, as she often claims, that she has been duped all along, and that nothing that ever goes wrong is her fault. Duped by her advisors into believeing that her vision for a healthcare system overhaul was popular and praticeable. Duped by Bill who lied to her about Monica and others, and despite the fact that rest of the country had been in on the joke for years, she still had no idea that he had been unfaithful. And now duped by President Bush (who has been known to be occassionally mocked by some Clinton supporters as stupid – I guess this one is going back into the cognitive dissonance folder) who somehow tricked her into voting for military authority when she thought she was voting for something else. Of course if she’s that guileless, she probably isn’t qualified for even higher office.
Lack of guile doesn’t seem to be the issue, however. A desire to avoid responsibilty for any decision or shortcoming does. The last thing we need after a Bush presidency that has been marked by unbendable dogma and an inability acknowledge mistakes is more of the same. Whether its victimizing herself, playing stupid, or portraying anyone as immorral and self-serving, Clinton has never blanched about spinning herself. There is little reason to believe that she ever will.
Conspiracy? It was your vote lady…

To Lori and Xavier: You scare me.
Lori–face up to reality and take a course in reading and comprehension.
Same to Xavier, and if you have proof in the form of documents that the Bush isn’t a liar, then the CIA and FBI want to have a chat with you. I think those have not been declassi-
fied yet.

Under Bill Clinton, US was attacked by Osama Bin Laden several times, he did not respond or responded with half way force, dusting off the roof of Bin Ladne’s brick house in Afghanistan or attacking the pharmacitucal factury in Sodan. While he was busey with Monica Luinskey’s scandal, Bin Laden was planning for 09/11. Now, here we go again, his wife wants to take over the White House. Another appeaser just like her husband and Mdelin Olbright who kept apologizing to Mullas, please elect them so we are attached again, this is the only way we americans can learn our lessons. Do the Clintons realy believe we do not remember or suffering from Amnesia? Go figure.

Has anyone see copies of this ‘heated exchange’ on video? I know someone who saw it on MSNBC but it appears to have gone missing now … quite unflattering screaming match that is prettied up on paper. I’d like to see Sen Clinton handle herself under pressure. Can anyone provide guidance on where to find the video?

Breathing Down Her Neck

Hi there; remember me? I’ve actually had my new system up and running for a couple of days, but had other priorities. ***** I haven’t had too much to say about the slate of candidates–both Democrat and Republican–who are running

Lori writes: “This job requires a person who is educated, well spoken, worldy, honest and hard working! This job requires the skills women posess more often than men!”
Wow… then “a woman” goes on for sentences in an angry, anti-male, tirade. Why does this male-bashing, angry, frustrated, name-calling approach prove itself to be skills that are better than male skills?