General Discontent

House Majority?? Leader

It must be very frustrating for the Generals to know that, even tho they are doing the right thing by speaking out, they will be labeled as traitors for doing so. God bless them and help keep them strong in their fight to correct this deadly mistake by the Bushes

I am beginnin to fear he has some sort of notion that he is filling some Biblical prophesy. If so, we are in peril.

The Commanders told George Junior, You have placed our troops in peril.

If a commander didn’t agree with Bush, he was relieved of his command, just like every other position in Bush’s administration.
If the President actually listened, he would have heard Gen. Petraeus say Iraq will not be won with military force.

I believe that those retired Generals that are opposing the President of the United States should be tried for Treason. They all had to have taken the oath to support the Commander in Chief and with that alone, as military commanders, they should be following orders, and not questioning them. These Generals are a bunch of phonies and never should have been promoted to that rank. What kind of mentorship are they portraying to our young soldiers serving our country today? Cowardship is not we convey to our soldiers and that is exactly what these Generals are conveying. I say, charge them with insorbordination and slander and lock them. Strip them off their titles that they retired with and make examples of their foolishness. We need to continue the fight against terrorism and that is what we are fighting over there in Iraq and Afghanistan. I support our President and the Generals on the ground at harms way in their decision to increase the number of troops to get the job done.

Listen up JUST STOP ALL FUNDING. That’s what ended the Vietnam war, and that’s what it will take to end this one real quick , and bring the troops home. Let the troops run out of bullets, and fuel for the jets for air support. Then any general, commander or officer who would send troops into combat without ammo, or fuel for air support should be court martialed, and jailed. Let the troops run out of rations, then they can just stay on base and eat base cooked food, instead of canned rations while out on patrol. They gotta eat some time.

I believe he should be impeached! He has gone to far and we need to stop him. We are already in jeopardy of disaster. We need our people back here to protect us on our soil!

WORST.PRESIDENT.EVER
lets go over the problems:
Iraq
National defecit
katrina
poor veteran health care
attorney firings
Abramoff
Valerie Plame
Poor regular health care
No 1 infant mortality rate for 1st world country
No 1 murder rate for 1st world country
No 1 drug abuse
No 1 most religious first world nation
No 18 reading against first world nations
Highest Ceo to worker income disparity
and on and on
Thanks george!

Bush will, undoubtedly go down as the WORST president in American history. Impeach him now before he ruins us even further.

Gen. Batiste is simply stating what by now should be obvious to even the most partisan observer: this administration has made an absolute mess of Iraq by placing our toops in the middle of a civil war, and is now desperately flailing about, hoping beyond hope that the “surge” will stabilize Iraq enough to allow US troops to draw down in sufficient numbers or to leave entirely. Despite Gen. Batiste’s ads, many Repubs still will want to give the “surge” time to work, at least until September. If there’s been no progress by that time, those Repubs will desert the President like rats deserting a sinking ship, and not without reason.

Gerald;
all American citizens have a Constitutional RIGHT to express themselves, including RETIRED Generals. Any oath of office CANNOT supersede the supreme law of this nation!

The Democrats and all the Traitors of this Country that give aid and comfort to the enemy can fight the next war. I will never, barring a physical invasion of our country, support or fight another war for any reason! It is unfortunate the in two recent wars, Americans died for NOTHING. Let’s get some walled memorial in Washington to honor the men and women that died for nothing.

The Democrats and all the Traitors of this Country that give aid and comfort to the enemy can fight the next war. I will never, barring a physical invasion of our country, support or fight another war for any reason! It is unfortunate the in two recent wars, Americans died for NOTHING. Let’s get some walled memorial in Washington to honor the men and women that died for nothing.

This war will go on until Bush is gone. It will be his legacy and his downfall. We’re gonna be tied down in Afghanistan also like the Soviets. We’re just bombing civilians anyway and now they hate us. We can’t win in the middle east no matter what we do. GET OUT NOW!

To Barry and Craig:
Couldn’t agree with you guys more. I’m sure it is “signs of the times”. I’m only glad I’m not in a position to decide his fate because my flesh wants him to be in Iraq and suffer the way our boys have for his stupidity and arrogance,while my spirit intercedes for him to repent…

Well all this moaning about Bush is fine, but what about the fact that Congress is inhabiited by a bunch of empty suity and empty skirts? Yes, Bush screwed things up royally but what alternative is Congress really offering? They can’t even overide the Pres’s veto. Their heart is unfortunately not into ending the war really either.

To win any war its better for a lion to lead an army of asses rather than the OTHER WAY around.

I do not know who said “spare the rod and spoil the child”, but it has happened. Having lost but little say when it comes to the government, the trend is now to blame the government for ones own lack of common sense. What a pity to be know as the people of the most powerful country in the world that is being brought down by the least powerful.

One poster here has suggested the Generals should be tried for treason for not blindly following the commander in chief. I believe my recollection is correct when I say that at the Nuremberg trials at the end of World of World War Two blind obedience to the Fuhrer and to the system was not received as a valid defense for the atrocities committed.
It is ludicrous to suggest that in our ‘democracy’ that we (ant that means ANY of our citizens) should just blindly follow the president. Partly, it is that kind of mentality that has us in the mess we are in. It is truly unpatriotic that someone one would suggest that this is what America is about. Do we really believe in democracy??

I AM FORMER U.S. ARMY, HONORABLY DISCHARGED! AND I SAY – NO MORE LIES FOR WAR! WE ONLY PAY, BLEED, AND BREED MORE ANTI-USA SENTIMENT AROUND THE WORLD! NO to The North American Union (NAU)! New Leadership & Foreign Policy is in order!
THE RON PAUL EFFECT: WHEN PEOPLE HEAR AND SEE HIM, THEY LIKE HIM: Personally the majority of people I know voted for RON PAUL on that MSNBC Poll “Rate The Candidates”, and that’s Republicans/Democrats/and Third-Party folks. RON PAUL is RIGHT FOR AMERICA, he has the RIGHT MESSAGE! The People have grown TIRED of UNTRUTHFUL BIG-SPENDING POLITICIANS! We Want a STATESMAN that SPEAKS FOR THE PEOPLE! Long Live LIBERTY! Long Live THE REPUBLIC! Long Live THE U.S. CONSTITUTION! Long Live AMERICA! Long Live RON PAUL!

Who’s dancing in Ulysses S. Grant’s tomb? Ulysses of course. Thanks to George W he’s no longer the worst president in U.S. history.

CENSORING RON PAUL IS A MISTAKE

Reference the petition by Navy Lt. Jason Nichols, serving in Baghdad, and
Minnesota National Guard Staff Sgt. David Thul, I am extremely interested in
the following (1) in what capacity
do they serve in Iraq, (2) how
is the petition worded. Also,
let’s keep in mind that all active
duty military personnel must
comply with the orders of those
above them. If they did this of
their own free will with their own
resources, fine and well; if not,
something is wrong.

Commander in Chief?!?! – Which one are we talking about? Dick Cheney or Carl Rove? I love the quote Generals should be tried for treason for not blindly following the commander in chief. Of course there’s that nasty little document “The Constitution” Or has “Freedom of Speech” gone the way of the Geneva Convention for the bushies? I wonder how many people posting here will be investigated for subversive activities. Bring back good old McCarthyism!!! They can just cross out “Communist Sympathizer” and write in “Terrorist”.

Impeachment process, Where are those that were so eager to impeach Clinton for an affair, this man is killing our troops and a failed policy, where is Bin Ladin, Impeach Now!!!!

I would hope that none of us ever forget the 11th of September and how many civilian lives that were taken. Also, remember that our military strength was decreased in the prior years leading up to the attacks on our country.
As Gen. Abizaid has said, “We may not have the patience but this is a generational war.” They really are out to get US.
If we do not take care of this matter now we will get attacked again and we may anyway. This is not a situation that Americans and the military are accustomed to.

Don’t be surprised if there is a nuclear explosion before the end of G.W.’s term of office. Wether to end the war or prolong its life.

Some of you posted messages acting like rabid dogs. Nothing that anyone of us say here or anywhere else is going to change a thing… except of course, election day! So many people quick to criticize every fabric of our government, but how many of you vote? That is the only way to make change in this country. For me, I don’t agree or disagree with the Iraq war. Much like the Vietnam War, this too will pass. Lost in the jubilation of it ending, will be the thousands of forgotton men and woman who died… maybe in vain, or maybe not. I look at the war a little like this. We spend billions per day to fight and fund this war, but the community I live in cannot afford to put an adequate number of police officers on our streets to the escalating crime rate. We except violence on our own soil, yet dismiss it at home. I’m a true-blue American and feel we live in one of the best places on earth. That said, we also live in the most mixed up country when it comes to these priorities.

It is evident that some of the posters have bought into the post-9/11 propoganda that brought us into this war in the first place. Mind you, we are NOT in Iraq as a result of having been attacked by terrorists on 9/11/01. Why is it that the majority of the hijackers were Saudi, Bin Laden is in Afganistan, but we are blowing holes into Iraq? The lunacy of this policy has nothing to do with terrorism, Al Queda, or a threat against the US from Iraq. We are far more an enemy of Iraq now than we ever have been in history. Think critically for yourself, instead of buying into the president’s m.o. of feeding just enough (mostly erroneous) information to citizens to create the group think necessary to move forward with his agenda.

ENOUGH! IS ENOUGH!
I think it is time now for the Congress of the United States to tell the solders, and generals that they are no longer taking order from George Bush, or Dick Cheney.
That henceforth their order come from the Congress of the United States, and the speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi. And Further, that the Congress of the United States, and speaker of the house will grant amnesty to any solders ignoring administration orders.
If congress does not want to assume command of the military. Then they should inform the military that any solder that lays down his arms, and returns home will be grated amnesty. Along with any solders that help them return home.
If Congress does not get our solders out of there soon. They are just going to quit. And leave on there own very soon. Mark my words!

I am so heartened by some folks who have finally summoned the courage to speak out. This is the only way to put an end to this madness. Major General Bastiste is a true American hero.

You can’t handle the truth-
You bring up a very good point. Some of our troops just might take it upon themselves before long to take matters into their own hands.
Food for thought: I have it on pretty good authority that the troops are the reason Rumsfeld is gone.

The only thing George Bush has done for our military is send them home in body bags or crippled for the rest of their lives. They have accomplished absolutely NOTHING in Iraq. I want to see Bush and Cheney held accountable and prosecuted for what they have done to our great nation.

I had a dream President Bush was re-elected to a third term. I awoke from my nightmare speaking in tongues. My wife videotaped it. I was having trouble sleeping since then, so I added some graphics and music.

There is justification for the Iraq war but it has been misplaced and overshadowed. Suddam raped, tortured, and murdered hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children. This is an issue deserving of worldwide intervention. If our US government began condoning internal oppression of American citizens, would we not cry out for help? What then if the all nations turned their back on us excusing the actions an internal US affair? I say, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

As in any military situation, commanders are allowed to make decisions based on the facts at hand and the SITREP being provided. Our commanders on the lines are not being allowed to make those timely decisions, as individuals in Washington are taking those decisions away from them. Name one person in Bush’s administration with actual battle field experience! I don’t think that anyone in his staff is remotely qualified to make those difficult decisions, which ultimately result in the death of our brave soldiers, simply following orders. I was a veteran of 10 years in the service, and the motto clearly states, “Lead, Follow or get the hell out of the way”. Kudo’s to our brave military soldiers who are simply following orders. If Bush want’s to make the decisions, then put him into a Forward Observer (FO) Capacity, and then let’s see how long he wants to stay in the line of fire.

Did the general ever state the exact thing that Bush didn’t listen about? From my recollections, the military wasn’t questioning going to war, but were questioning the number of troops required. Most ‘old school’ commanders were asking for 300,000 – 400,000 troops for occupation. That’s what they were frustrated about. The commanders know that they don’t make decisions about who to attack, they just want the resources to do it the way they think it should be done. Rumsfeld botched it by trying to limit the amount of forces committed. When they realized the error, politically they couldn’t insert another 200k worth of troops. Now we have the ‘surge’ which still disregards the initial assessment of many commanders.

to the patriots at ABC news. censor this one – yank it.
george w. bush is our president.
is that okay?
sa

It is not a matter of whether or not you agree with Bush’s decision to stay in Iraq. He is the president. He makes the decisions that he feels will best protect our country. In a democratic society, we rise and fall with our leaders. However, Congress has the power to end our involvement if they wnat it bad enough. So, stop placing all of the blame on Bush.

I firmly believe that if Bush (The Decider) had decided to keep our troops in Afghanistan with a blind focus on hunting down Bin Laden and Mullah Omar until they were captured or killed, this whole country would have been solidly behind the Administration. For some horrible reason, Cheney, Rummy and their puppet, The Decider, felt the need to go into Iraq against the better judgement of those in the know. We all know what this has led to. The spin the administration puts on it is just outright false. For example:
Spin: We don’t support the troops because we are against the war.
Fact: We support the troops far more than Bush because we want them out of harm’s way.
Spin: If we pull out now, those who have been injured or killed will have done so in vain.
Fact: For as long as this war lasts, our troops will be killed or injured in vain because this conflict will not be settled by military action.
Spin: Fight them there or fight them on our shores.
Fact: Our being there has not prevented them from doing more damage here.
Spin: The War on Terror.
Fact: How does the administration reason that their fighting terror by starting a war in a country that had nothing to do with al Queda..??
Spin: You’re either for us or against us.
Fact: Loyalty to the Bush administration has no relevance in this matter.
Spin: Speaking out against the war is appeasing the enemy.
Fact: Speaking out against the war does not mean wanting to surrender, does not mean we are siding with al Queda or encouraging them. It’s simply the truth.
Undeniable Fact: The Bush administration is the worst thing to ever happen to our wonderful country.

“Johnny Got His Gun” by Dalton Trumbo.
sa

Funny how people commend any armed forces member that disagrees with the administration. Yet if you agree your considered a follower. Just because you disagree doesn’t make your comment any more intelligent. The president has acknowledged there have been mistakes. War isn’t easy mistakes are made all of the time. Why not give them the support of the entire nation for a change and let them end this thing once and for all?

I think it is time for the Generals to step-up. And ask speaker Nancy Pelosi, and the Congress Of the United States to assume full command of the military. To bring our solders home. Before the solders simply lay down their arms, and walk away on their own.
It is all ready happening. Solders are just walking away. And the highest percentage ever are committing suicide. Time is up. Act now! It already too late.

Impeach the son of a Bush!!

WAKE UP AMERICA, BEHIND ALL THESE EVENTS “SOMEONE” IS GETTING MORE CONTROL
OVER EVERYTHING: THE ANTICHRIST

The ads don’t say, War is wrong, we are hurting Iraquis. They say, our soldiers are getting hurt. Well, they all signed up to kill other people in return for money. I don’t really have a lot of sympathy for them. I’m against the war because it’s wrong, not because solders are getting hurt.

Hitler would have loved to have President Bush on his staff. His decision to invade Iraq allowed a civil war to take place, resulting in the deaths of over 45,000 Iraqis.
He destablized a goverment that at least kept law and order for its citizens.

The war is already over, we won the war. We should end the occupation. All we are doing now is cowering in the green zone. Apart from that we drive around waiting for a mine to go off.. oh yea we like to make it sound 21st century, excuse me, i.e.d.
lets get out of there and concentrate on defending the US.

Worst team of white house leadership in american history
George Bush -
Pres. with so many chosen leaderships all across the nation that failed
Dick Cheny -
V.P. with the worst truth records to the american public -
Donald Rumsfield -
Worst Sec. of Def. to go to war who didnt listen to the truth-
Condelezza Rice -
The most superficial Sec. of State -
George Tennet -
Top CIA man with the worst guts in intelligence agency -
Paul Wolfowitz -
The most selfish guy you can choose to lead World Bank in helping 3rd world nations
Carl Rove -
Smartest guy in the room but failed to loose all of his emails (huh?)
Michael DeWayne Brown -
Worst 911 Fema Rescue handling in american history
Paul Bremer – The worst middle east credentials ever to have been assigned to rebuild Iraq – and he accepted
(im not a bomb expert, but hey, let me try)
Failure of Bush is not because he’s a Republican, failure of Bush is his chosen round table of men is men of selfish agenda’s and poor leadership.

It’s never a good sign when the top Brass start speaking out against the boss man. This war was folly from the get go, and I think everyone knows it. Nobody denies that Saddam’s regime was evil, but to the pro-war folks, please stop using that as a reason for why we went to war. We all know that had nothing to do with it. There are evil regimes all over the world and we are not going after each of them. North Korea is as bad as it gets, and we KNOW they have nukes, yet we do nothing to them. This whole Iraq mess was about something completely different, and I don’t even think it is as simple as just oil (although that is certainly a part of it). I think this is a much more personal agenda of our president.
Also, for all those that are pro-war, the military desperately needs recruits. If you really think this whole thing is a noble effort, then why not sign up yourself? Lastly, stop saying those that are against the war are against our troops. That is a typical Repub. bullying tactic and I for one have had quite enough of it. Bringing our troops home safe from a pointless, un-winnable conflict is PRO TROOPS. Keeping them there to be killed or maimed in a pointless vendetta is ANTI TROOPS. Wake up. You are the ones who are against our soldiers.

I have a son there and another one going soon ~ I have a right to speak. Bring them all home now.
Some good has been done ~ but now it’s time to come out. The Iraqi people have to step up to the plate and take responsibility for themselves. Other allied countries have left, British troops are next … Bush is playing God … he has no right.

I CANNOT believe all of the Bush Bashing liberals! You would have us put our tails between our legs and hide under our beds? I REPEAT: There is justification for the Iraq war but it has been misplaced and overshadowed by people like you. Can you for just one minute put your Bush Bashing aside and consider that Suddam raped, tortured, and murdered hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children. This is certainly appropriate justification and an issue deserving worldwide intervention. If our US government began condoning internal oppression of American citizens, would we not cry out for help? What then if the all nations turned their back on us excusing the actions an internal US affair? I say, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Obviously, many Americans are ignorant of our national values so they hide under our national banner (their bed) and assume it is not the responsibility of the US to make this world a better place. And why…? Because it will interfere with their personal freedom. The US was built upon a foundation of freedom and Christian values. But you Bush Bashing liberals would discard our national values and change them to oppression and separatism. Run and hide if you think you can. But I assure you that if we leave Iraq now, the terrorists will become bolder and celebrate their victory. They will continue to plan and invade, attacking the US again and again and there may be no peace for several generations to come. But so long as you are appeased for the present, I suppose that is all that matters.

Its ALL A GAME OF CHESS YOU HAVE YOUR PAWNS WHO ARE SACFRICED FOR ADVANCMENTS IN THE GAME (TO ALLOW CONTRACTS AND PERMENENT BASES TO BE BUILT) you have some troops paid off in large amounts of cash to do unspeakable crimes and cove-up, also you have hired guns killing troops to draw out the war and blame it on Iran when clearly the bombs are American place by hired mercenary fighters (CIA hired) over years while a major permanent presence is built up in middle east to carry out attacks on the middle east, nukes already ready to be deployed when the call is given just waiting the false flag . USA troops will die in Middle East and the USA will be destroyed and as the dollar plummets and the economy dies and the debt of the war bill in the trillions come home to the tax payer, houses homes will be repressed and people who try to appose it will be put in prison camps.
The middle class will see their money and hard earned life styles die, USA will be like the former USSR, the super powers gone and the NEW WORLD ORDER COME INTO VIEW to chip and control every living soul on the planet into slaves for the elite a 1/3 of the world will be destroyed by nukes to bring down the population to a couple of billion so the world can survive the coming famines and natural disasters the shadow government are full aware of what is on horizon coming in 2012. The sad thing these so called Christians who run the world believe it’s the end times and they have to fill God plan, these people are sick and have been perverted by evil and have stopped listening to the people along time ago. Then it’s CHECK MATE.

re: Kathy Jones-McGee — I suppose your comment must be a “Black Thang” huh?

The sad part is that US soldiers don’t even have the right to the very free speech they are defending all over the world. They can’t just “speak their mind” on this issue as long as they are active duty. Once they get out or retire then they speak up. If they were allowed to say what they really feel, I am confident you would not have as many soldiers agreeing with this war as you seem to think there is.
Bush is not a military leader by any stretch of the imagination. He has his own agenda that he is fulfilling. He is NOT listening to what the American people want. He is only doing what George W Bush wants. He stated very firmly to the press that HE makes the decisions, no one else. That said it all. The rest of us be damned. Our opinions do not matter. He isn’t even listening to the military commanders, why should the American public matter??? I am counting down the days when my husband can retire and get the hell out of the military and when this President is nothing but dust in the rear view mirror on Pennsylvannia Avenue.

it has been said recently that the reason for delay in clean up in the tornado stricken areas is because our troops are over-taxed in the fighting in Iraq. now is the time to take care of our own at home and let the Iraqis take responsibility for their own actions and government. we cannot impose our form of government when they are not willing to allow it….

I know you want this interesting reading.

You don’t fight terriosm by attacking a country with an Army. You do it using intelligence and covertly as Israli did (ref. the movie “Munich”). Members of Al Qaeda make up many country’s not just one. Beside’s they were’nt even in Iraq they were in Afghanistan. We also had Iraq marginized by controlling the North and South no-fly zones. Saddam could’nt do anything to hurt us. Bush is an idiot he listen’s to no one except Cheney and he’s more concerned about Halliburton making money.

How is it possible that in one part of this news report, you read that ‘…2,700 current and former service members’ support continued U.S. combat operations, but the main story grab are the two or three that disagree? I smell the ‘b’ word. (It’s bias…in case you’re wondering.)

Let’s try a simple concept on for size…
The attacks of 9/11 begot the fighting in Afghanistan. The world supported the ouster of the Taliban and the crushing of Al Quaida. The evidence was clear, incontrivertible and actionable.
The War in Iraq fails to live up to any standard of evidence, decency or justification. Bush is a fool, Cheney is a manipulator and Haliburton has raked in billions…
George stated the follwing, verbatim: “We are NOT in the business of nation building.”
Every action in Iraq, the continued presence of US troops and the insane buildup of troops points to this statement being a boldfaced lie. USAF troops are being retasked to cover the lack of available Army troops to fill their mission goals. The list is endless. The suffering is endless. The lies of GW and his cabal are endless. The War in Afghanistan is backpage news at best and lo an behold, the Taliban is making gains…. $500B
for what…?
Meanwhile, Walter Reed is in disrepair and the troops are suffering for it. GW goes there every year and sees none of the problems he is directly responsible for creating. Shame on this fool and shame on anyone who excuses his idiocy as “patriotism”.

Re: Swillabrew — I agree and disagree with your comment to Gary E. I’m a veteran as well. Yes, you are correct that many service personnel get caught in situations where they have to decide if it’s worth risking their career. But, that begs for me to ask you this question. Who promotes the Generals? Is it the President, or Congress?
You know the answer to that question SWILLABREW.
My point is that if Gen. Batiste stuck to his guns and let his chain of command know his displeasures, then, all he would have to worry about is getting fired. His pension and perks are still there because Congress promotes and demotes the Generals. NOT THE PRESIDENT. Eric.

This isn’t ‘some General’ making bucks off his comments.
This is someone who was IN CHARGE over there. In other words someone who knows a great deal MORE about the situation than a bunch of arm chair critics sitting safe and cozy in their computer rooms.
Some folks don’t like to hear crticism of the failed policies of this administration but facts are facts and the ones who unequivocally have THE FACTS are the folks like this General who were actually over there, in charge and ignored by someone who never actually served and lied to get us into this mess to begin with.

It is ASHAME that there are still those who support this war knowing that there are hudreds of thousands of civilians and American troops being killed… and WHAT IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED??? Bush needs to realize that he is responsible for all those casualties. BRING THOSE BRAVE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN BACK TO SAFETY and Send BUSH over there!!

It is time for our troops in Iraq to simply lay down their arms in defiance of this deceiving and thoroughtly corrupt administration which has systematically turned our government into a fascist dictatorship with no regard to the wishes and demands of the American people, and in total disregard of global opinions and concerns.

Having served in the 1st Inf.Div. I find that it seems to me its easy to be a puppet for the liberal side of life to
make there comments from a safety zone of
being a civilian, Then when their agenda
falls on its face and Americans die by
massive casualties on U.S. soil they can
blame it on President Bush.Sounds like a cackling Chicken to me…….

Actually Anthony, General officers serve at the pleasure of the president. While congress approves filed grade officer promotions, the president submits, Congress does not. If the General would have voiced his displeasure while in service, the most that could have been done would have been his forced retirement. The president would not have touched his pension nor his benefits-those are provided by law. It is not disloyal to the country to have an opposing opinion-it is disloyal to have one and not voice it while in the uniform-something they could have done-and as officers of high integrity should have done. They did not; so one of two things is happening here-(1. They do not have as high integrity as they have claimed and so should be retired or (2. they are making big bucks by speaking out now. Both by the way prove that they have less integrity then was thought during their serving period. In case you have not noticed, my problem is not that they have an opposing opinion, they most certainly are allowed such, my prpblem is wit officers who do not have the integrity to do what the country has asked of them and that is to stand up and be counted-troops lives depend on them everyday, we need officers who are true to their word and duty.

Let Rove sling some my mud before the day’s end. Let Limbaugh call the general an incometent oaf and traitor. What hannity will say will burn everyone’s ears.
If there is anything the right wing will not brook it is truth,

Seems as though a lot of you are wanting to rewrite the constitution. The president is the commander in chief. He wages wars. Not congress. The articles of the constitution are very clear on that.

In November of 1941 Gallup conducted a poll of the American public and asked them if they saw any reason for going to war against either German or Japan. 84% responded that they saw NO reason to enter the war. I’m sure I don’t need to remind you what happened less than a month later in December of 1941. Please don’t try and sell ‘the majority is always right’. It doesn’t stand up to the truth of history.

J. B. Munch-
The only “cackling Chicken” I am aware of is the 5 time military draft dodgers Bush, and Cheney. Who spent there time boozing it up, doping it up, and screwing their girlfriends back home. While American heroes died alone. Rotting face down. In the jungle horrors of Vietnam.
And then they had the disgrace to campaign to continue the Vietnam war, while they were tucked away safe at home. A war that everyone else agreed was a mistake. And that we needed to get out of ASAP. How ironic that these politicians have America in this same mess again. Vietnam all over again.
GIVE ME A BREAK!

I spent some time in Iraq myself. I’m just amazed how people become experts overnight when they never been there or have a clue what it’s like. I was there and don’t claim to be an expert. This two star general has a right to his opinion. He even has the right to disagree with the commnader and chief. But that is just one general. How about a four star general that says we are making a difference! Should we only listen to a two star because he agrees with the Dem’s? I love how the opinions of retired generals who are not in the “know” become gospel and generals that are on the ground don’t.

Hey Lenny, to do what you ask is actually worst than what is going on. You are asking for sedition, you are demanding that Congress override the constitution of the United States. The president is Commander in Chief, not the Speaker of the House; in fact the speaker is 3rd down the chain. Since you can’t impeach either one, you do not get to just “tell the solders and generals that they are no longer taking order from George Bush or Dick Cheney.” No matter what your feelings, neither the American people nor the courts would let you destroy the constitution that way. And by the way, no more soldiers than at any other conflict are “committing suicide”, the number by far is a lot lower than during WWII and Vietnam and as to walking away, desertion or AWOL numbers are some of the lowest in any CONFLICT EVER. You need to research you numbers and data before you throw them out. The all volunteer military, while tired and overworked, is not:”just walking away.”

This “war” was a mistake from day one. GW thought this Saddam was going to be an easy target. The people were misled as to the reasons for the war and then again when GW declared victory with the political photo op on the aircraft carrier, what 4 years ago? Some victory.
We are stuck is a situation that cannot be won. The admin does not even know what would constitute a win at this point. The Iraqi government is thumbing their nose at us and dragging their feet every step.
I can’t help but think how much safer our country would be ifteh $100+ billion dollars was spent on internal security. Think of all the people that could have been hired to guard our ports, borders and airports.
The US is not safer. Try going to any country in the world and see how Americans are treated. The world looks at us as the ultimate arrgessors. To them we are the terrorists.
It’s a joke, its about oil and it’s about GW’s revenge on Saddam for his bounty on his “Daddy”.
Remember “You all voted for him” At least I can say that I never did.

Hey Gerald, remember the Nazi’s were just following orders. Sometimes orders should be questioned.
It’s amazing how anyone that does not support this war is labeled a traitor.

Only one reminder to W’s supporter’s: Mission Accomplished! What a joke. Does this administration really think we’re not watching? No one believes anything that comes out of this administration. We are a laughing stock. Oh, and read the 9/11 commission report lately? Iraq had nothing to do with it.

2700 soldiers who petitioned to support the war VS. 3 Generals who want a political career? I pick the Soldiers!

I am baffled by the inability of the idiots in the America that cannot see that regardless of blunders made in this war on terror that we still must fight the war to keep the enemy from our homeland.
Do any of you pay attention to the news and the thwarted attempts to attack us internally, like the attempt to attack Ft. Dix. Do you not understand that the Islamic radicals are out to kill ALL of us not just our military? Have you not heard them say what their goal is….to kill all Americans? Do you not understand that they hate us? Do you think they are just spouting off at the mouth like most of you that have posted here?
God have mercy on us as a nation. He has to have mercy on us because the people are to blind to see the truth and are to busy being concerned about their self centered comforts and being impatient to get their next technological toy to play with rather than doing their patrotic duty and serving their country and defending our country.
Maybe when the next big explosions or a chemical attack that kills thousands or millions takes place maybe the people will wake up. What a pathetic mess the country that I gave 20 years of my life defending has become.

We are the people of the United States. If we don’t like the way the government is run then it is up to us to make the changes. We started with the last election. The House and Congress are doing what they can at the present time. If you don’t want to wait until the next presidential election then tell your congressperson. If we flood their offices mail and calls then they won’t be able to ignore us.

Tom Cobb, the best offense is a good defense. What defense do we have now? Half the National Guard is in Iraq. Our borders are ports, borders and airports are open to anyone with half a brain to get through.
You don’t have to be a 5 star general to now that you don’t go off to fight when your front door is open.
The war money would have been better put to use for defense of the homeland.

I knew Bush was going to be trouble for our nation. I saw him as an evil leader. I knew it, and that is why I didn’t vote for him. Something just wasn’t right. But now !! Look what we are stuck with. He needs to be impeached, stop fooling around and pussyfooting. Get him out and bring our troops home. I totally agree with General Batiste.

2nd Ammendment gu you make good points but one thing you are wrong about. Our country is supposed to be run by the will of the people buy our elected reps. This is certainly not the case. Our counry is run by corporate greed. Corporate money run the White House. The oil industry decides policy.
Why is that in most of the country you still cannot get alternative fuels, ie E85 or bio-Diesel. The oil companies want to keep us addicted to oil. Just like the cigarette companies did.
If we became energy independent, the middle east’s economies would crash and they couldn’t aford to wage war. Plus we would have no reason to be there.

I seem to remember that the war was started because of weapons of masss descruction. Then it became the war on terror because no wmd was found. This is now a religious war not a military war and we are in the middle. Bush says we need to stay until it is done. Well when will that be. When we have to put up a second wall with untold thousands of names on it. This war should be called THE WAR WITH NO END. Only the ones who gave the ultimate will see the end. Lives cut short for no reason but to satisfy one mans need for a legacy. Well bud you got it; a failed legacy.

Again, how will we accept U.N. and foreign troops in the U.S. taking over National Guard duties unless our troops are elsewhere? Spurious George is spending brave servicemen and women’s lives like he is drunken sailor! And he has committed every impeachable offense just short of prostituting shool kids to senators! I am sick of reading and hearing about the lives of these brave soldiers getting sniped, car-bombed, and blown to smithereens by IEDs when I know that they are being used to protect big oil and the hegemonic agenda of contractors like Halliburton! I am fed up, how about you? The number of U.S. troops that have been killed is disgusting. Over 655,000 dead civilian Iraqis is also disgusting! I cannot blame the Iraqis for fighting us for we Americans would fight any occupying forces if we could pull ourselves away from ‘Dancing with the Stars”! Folks, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and 9/11 was an inside job. There is a gargantuan pile of evidence to support this—investigate and think for yourselves–do not let people tell you what to think–think for yourselves! Iran is obviously part of the agenda and there will probably be some sort of 9/11 to foment people into being behind that too! The only reason that people cannot get their heads around this is because the mainstream media is complicit in not reporting the news so they think everything is OK! Wake up and wake other people up for the ‘redcoats are coming’!

The current administration’s “strategy” is convincing many of Islam’s “unemployed-without-direction-already-angry-at-the-west young males” that what Uncle Usama and other radicals (Pakistan Tribal areas)have justified, is, in fact, justified. Just what we need – all of the former “fence-sitters” heading downtown to the local “cell” recruiter and signing up for Jihad. The mistakes of this Iraqi adventure, I believe, will end up costing more US lives in the long run than many, many 9/11s. Hell, the Israelis “only” have to deal with Iran, Hizballah, Syria and the Palestinians. The US, by nature, has all of the above, plus horn-of-Africa, Asia and possibly even S. America. This has to be right up there with some of the “all-time biggest screw-ups” in recorded history.

The executive branch of our government has failed us completely. We must leave Iraq now and our Congress is the only hope we have of doing so before the next presidential election. Republicans, listen carefully to the voice of concerned Americans, if you wish to serve your country in future years. Your votes are what stand in the way of changing the failed policies of the oval office. If you will not help the American people save us from such a disaster as the Iraq war has become you may very well follow our current president into the obscurity he is destined for.

There were 23 reason why we went to war with I Iraq, resolution 1441…….anyone remember….? Most of You all have been listening to the I hate Bush, far left main stream media. Watch Fox News, Bill OReilly and the grew maybe get a little informed as to what is going on in this world, other that listen to shoty reporting from people like Dan Rather…where is Dan Rather..?

“2700 soldiers who petitioned to support the war VS. 3 Generals who want a political career? I pick the Soldiers!”
There are how many soldiers in the military and they could only get 2700 to sign the petition? That’s a fraction of the absymal turnout for the typical presidential election.

Way to many soldiers of this great country have given their lives in support of a Government that leaves them in the cold after it has used them. The current Government continues not to support the benefits of disabled combat veterans that served in past Wars. Yet they continue to make more disabled veterans that will go through more pain and suffering then they ever could have thought possible. All in j just trying to recieve benefits that the Government said they would have. I am one of those disabled combat veterans – of 3 wars who has been fighting the Veterans Administration for almost 7 years – just to get what I earned – no more and no less – I EARNED them and I sacrificed for them. There are many, many more in front and behind me that also have suffered and will continue to suffer. I don’t understand how such a great country can abandon those who gave everything for it! Yet the Government does! Get us out of a war that is going no where – didn’t they politicans learn anything from Vietnam – Bosnia – and the others – what a waste of so many good people and so much money – over what – politics and power! HOW SAD YOU ARE MR BUSH! I admire the General for standing up and saying his peace – he is truly a great man!

So President Bush lied again so what!! What are we going to do about it?

as long as the military industrial complex makes billions & billions & billions from manufacturing war products wars will continue… forever.. UNLESS.. Ron Paul is elected President then everything will change & America will be saved..no more open borders,no more federal reserve,no NAU,reinvestigation of 9-11 & much more… Ron Paul for President to save America

Yo, people. If your still yapping about the fighting in Iraq then you have a failed situation on your hands; No And’s, No If’s, No but’s. Just pure failure. It’s just that simple.
By the way, the term “support the troops” is meaningless until you have a solid reference point as to what the statement means. And nobody has even bothered to write any list down.
Damn…people are stupid.

“Listen up JUST STOP ALL FUNDING. That’s what ended the Vietnam war, and that’s what it will take to end this one real quick , and bring the troops home.”
What caused us to lose in ‘Nam was a lack of support at home. Our morale had snapped and the enemy won. Here we are on another round and America still has not learned: when you are in a war you MUST win. The only question we should be asking and finding the answer for is: “How do we win?”

Idahogirl888 -
Dang! girl. Are you running for president. Because if you are. I’m voting for you girl.

I have just learned that the people who think that Bush is doing a great job are the same 28% that are devout Bill O’Reilly followers.

WAAAAAH! BRING THE TROOPS HOME! WE DON’T BELONG IN IRAQ! THERE’S NO SUCH THING AS TERRORISTS!
Liberals are so blind to the facts and the truth. You’d rather cut and run than make a stand. Instead of whining and crying, why don’t you ask the TROOPS whether they should leave before the job is finished. You morons don’t know what their mindset is. You don’t know how they feel. You aren’t over there making a difference for the Iraqi people. You people are just afraid of conflict. You liberals have been cut and run types since WWII. In fact, you may be to blame for the spread of Communism in Eastern Europe directly following WWII. You didn’t have a plan for Germany and Poland etc. like the Russians did. All you wanted to do was bring the troops home and forget that the war ever happened. So shut up and stop telling everybody what the troops feel when you don’t have an ounce of credibility.

I’m glad this is happening. At least our military schools don’t have all dummies. I was wondering why we had Military Schools. Bush should be put up for war crimes along with the congress and senate for following such a yogi bear. It was quite apparent that Iraq did not have nuclear weapons. The war on Terror is in the USA and our borders are not secure. We no longer have a national guard to protect us. We need the draft. With the draft things will happen. That is the public will become concerned. Only 1% of the population is affected with the guard. We need a Draft to get the ball rolling and end this Bush Fiascio. Bush is a Dummie. He should be working on the 18th Hole of some Golf course. And not the president of the USA

This is what you get when you elect TWICE a known alcoholic and drug abuser, turned “Gods right-hand man”.
Be happy those that voted for “The Decider” you got just what you asked for.
B is an I-D-I-O-T.

I don’t mind seeing Bush destroy the repub party… but destroying the country in the process really sucks.
Anyone that voted for him and does not regret it needs their head examined.

As a foreigner it might seem unapropriate to react on this US internal issue, however I woul’d like to share this thought with you: As the USA seem to be willing to impose their idea of democracy onto the whole world, It would be nice if this democracy really works… and if a President of this your nation obviously misleades the people of that nation, and therewith the whole world that he wants to democratise his way, I think that it is appropriate that the people who know about that first handedly can tell about it, eventhough they are working in the military or even the administration. That would be nice for a change: to have some transparancy instead of conspiracy…

Everyone that says that the war is a failure is incorrect. Our objective was to get Saddam out of power. We did more than that. We got the whole government out. Now, it’s up to the people of Iraq to set up their own government without outside interferance.
The middle-east nations need to help by keeping everyone else out of the way so they can achieve this.
With that said, bring ALL of our military home to the good ol’ US and protect our boarders. Not just the Mexican boarder but the Canadian boarder and the coasts. When the cats away the rats will get in and have a BLAST, literally.

HE JUST WON’T LISTEN!
Bush is determined to do whatever he wants and NO ONE is gonna tell him otherwise. Meanwhile OUR brave men and women are fighting a dying in a war that they should not even be in. Can anyone tell me, what happened to trying to find who REALLY attacked us, thats right OSAMA BIN LADEN…when was the last time Bush mentioned his name. If we had to be at war, it should have been in Afghanistan and the mountains of Pakistan where our REAL enemy is. Now because of this fiasco, we don’t even have enough manpower to defeat the people (TERROIST) going after us. Bush did some kind of David Copperfield move to get most of the people (NOT ME) to believe that Saddam was the enemy. Saddam was our enemy, but a special ops force could have taken care of him, not our armed forces. Who’s running the store…Our President is dangerous and the longer we let him do this, the more danger we are all in, Osama is in a cave planning the next attack and we are in the middle of a mess. I can’t believ anyone voted for him, he STINKS!!!

The generals did the right thing. It is part of our democratic system of checks and balances.

response to James, et. al.,
In the grand scheme of things, nothing this nation could do would be more foolhardy than packing our bags in Iraq for a 2-year hiatus.
#1 – We just told everyone who hates our guts how to beat us… just wait long enough and we’ll get tired and leave.
#2 – We walked into a country and neutered whatever government and military capacity it had; to walk away with (a) no effective replacement government, (b) no military capable of defending Iraq from it’s neighbors is pure folly. Remember the next-door neighbor who fought Iraq for eight long years over borders, and who’s convinced the Holocaust was a myth?
Whether you feel Mideast Oil is ‘What It’s All About’, would you feel more comfortable with Ahmadinejad (now with nukes) in control of Mideast oil resources??? Get a grip!
#3 – To expect that we remain in a holding pattern in Afghanistan for two years while revamping is equally bogus… if you were Al Queda, where would you go? Pakistan, Indonesia, Africa, Chicago, Toronto, anywhere the US troop presence was not. Remember, AQ is a fluid organization, has no borders, has no leadership that can be located, but for certain sure has a direction and motive. They’ve mastered unconventional war tactics like hit-and-run, like the VC of another day, they live and work in public in civilian clothes by day, and wage jihad after dark. There is no end to their patience; the end result – defeat of the infidels – is paramount to them.
If only we could be equally and mutually determined to see their end….

This General is a trader….We won that war buy taking out Saddam’s army, if it wasn’t for all the I hat America and I hate Bush redirect fueling the terrorist we would be out a long time ago. Ten years down the road you will thank this President,
God Bless our troops and America

Like many people I know of Native Tribal Heritage…& I don’t know all people of Native Tribal Heritage…I just sit back..& watch your crazy world getting more insane all the time…
Interesting to watch…but not that interesting…
Just passing through your world…it is what it is..and that is all it is…

3,333 U.S. troops have been killed in a war over non-existent WMD’s in Iraq. The Bush Administration cherry picked intelligence information and used scare tactics to justify rushing us into war. 3,333 brave Americans who enlisted to defend America lay in their graves, because the Bush Administration betrayed them by using them as pawns. This war is about providing access to the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world to U.S. oil corporations. If Saddam was using U.S. oil corporations instead of Russian and French oil corporations, he would still be in power. U.S. oil corporations would have used their influence over U.S. politicians that they bought with campaign contributions to protect him. Through the Bush Administration’s incompetence and lack of forethought, they have handed the majority Shiite nation of Iraq over to the Iranians. My question is, how can anyone justify continued support of the Bush Administration?

To everyone who says our objective was to get Saddam out of power, and that attacking Iraq was justified because he was such a tyrant, please answer this question:
Why are there so many other tyrannical leaders elsewhere in the world, with regimes at least as dangerous as Saddam’s (some far more dangerous), yet we do nothing to remove them from power?
Have you really been duped that easilly into believing that we waged this war for humanitarian reasons?

When asked if his father had advised him on whether or not to attack Iraq in the first place, Mr. Bush said that he received his advice “from my heavenly father.” One more reason why religion and politics don’t mix!

The Department of Homeland Security payed me a visit for speaking out against the traitor Bush. But then again, I am a middle aged white Christian that loves my country. We are on the verge of becoming a fascist dictatorship under this neocon Administration. Exercise your Second Ammendment rights NOW!!!

Well I for one would like for The
General to elaborate. What specifically did he tell Bush that Bush ignored? I am willing to listen! As for the 300-400 thousand troops we did not have them and Rumsfeld admitted as much when he said you go to war with what you have, not what you want. I never agreed with Rumsfelds military re-organization or With Powells “you break it you own it philosophy.” But hell broke loose on Rummy for telling the truth. I would like to see a little more agressiveness on the part of the military as in tracking down and killing Al Sadr and anyone who dances in the street with a gun after an IED goes off. Our rules of engagement are too wimpy and that is the real cause of our problems! That and the inability to go into places that are off limits just like in Vietnam when we could not bomb Hanoi.
As to having gone into Iraq, Saddam was in violation of the truce and that was reason enough. But for those who are ignorant of the facts let me just state that Al Queda was in Iraq. It was working with the group named Ansar al Islam and was being used to suppress the Kurds with Saddam turning a blind eye. Saddam had a long history of supporting terrorist not Al Queda specifically. Iraq was on the list of terror sponsoring nations BEFORE Bush took office. Saddams relationship with the group is and was nebulous but did exist and is documented. There is no evidence linking him to 911 and despite the claims of some on here Bush and Cheney never claimed any direct link. I remember Cheney saying there was NO link. British intelligence still stands behind their yellow cake claims that Bush mentioned in his speech. Saddam was 10 times worse than Milosevic and how many on here supported his removal for his crimes against humanity ( I smell hypocrisy ). I did not support it and did not think such reasoning was valid in Saddams case either.
The justification and reasoning went as such:
1. Saddam supports Palestinian terrorist with money against their mutual enemy Israel. 2. He has not proven to have destroyed all of the WMDs that HE claimed to own post GWI. 3. What is to stop him from handing such a weapon to Al Queda to use on their mutual enemy the USA? See bullet number 1. Re-read as necessary until the light goes off in your head. You need not agree with the reason and still oppose having gone to war but the logic is inescapable. The intel given to Bush was wrong, incomplete and or both that does not make him a liar for having gone to war with it. There was no rush it, took 18 months of debate in congress and at the UN before troop one set foot on Iraqi soil. During this time the many reasons for going to war were trotted out one at a time making it seem that they were unrelated and as if Bush was grasping at straws trying to find something that would stick. The communication was simplistic and poorly done. All of the reasons should have been given together and mentioned every time. This does not make Bush a liar but a poor communicator and I think we call all agree he is not the best speaker.
There was a coalition of over 30 nations involved. They provided as much support as we got in GWI which is to say very little. Dont count me as ungrateful it is all some of them could send. The difference is that we were fighting GWI with Reagans military and could muster 300,000 troops easily and we are fighting the war on terror with the downsized Clinton military which is half the size under Reagan. In defense of Clinton this was the result of the collapse of the USSR and Democrats desires to spend on social programs. I dont have an answer on how to win I just know that I want us to win and leaving now just does not seem to be the right answer!

To all the “We cannot pull out crowd” I say “BS” If your old enough that was the same crap we were told when we pulled out of Vietnam. The communists were going to take over Asia bahabaha. 20 years later we are trading friendly trading partners.
We need to pull out NOW. You want to win the hearts and minds, first you need to feed there bellies and let them fight for themselves. Iraq was an entitlement society anyway.

I don’t know who is in control of this Country anymore or if they even care the rest of us. Christian symbology is banned at government locations. Yet they have the Greek goddess of the underworld Persphone on top of the dome of our Capital.

Wow! Those of you who think that Bush has just done the worst job ever as President, thanks for sharing your unbelievably intelligent thoughts with the rest of us! I did not realize that you actually know more about what is going on in the world than our President. I also did not realize that you would have done a much better job of running a war and a country at the same time. As for “seb’s” comment on all the problems this country is having and them falling squarely on the President’s shoulders, wake up. How can all the problems our country has come from the President who has only been in office 7 years? And surely you all do not believe that there has not been any good done in Iraq, do you? Oh wait, that’s what you’ve been told by the good folks at the networks, isn’t it? It’s truly just too bad that none of you have run for President because clearly you could have done a better job than our current one.

Hey would they let the troops sign a petition to go home too or are just for the ones that support the White House position? Hmmmmmmmm let me guess. Does anybody notice how whenever the White House wants support the “powers that be” always score a major success like catching terrorist planning to kill troops at Fort Dixe. If Al Queda is really smart they’ll attack only when a competent administration is in office. Why waste your resources when this one will do your work for you.

I completely agree with the ad. Bush–the guy won’t listen. Americans DO NOT want to endanger our soldiers, we don’t care about the Bush family’s beef with Iraq (which has little to do with our everyday lives) and we don’t want to stay at war. Our nation is losing men & women unnecessarily and we need them home. Nevermind that we have a natural disaster almost every week with very few national guards to respond because they’re all in Iraq or headed there. The ad is right on point but I won’t hold my breath for him to listen now because he doesn’t need our votes anymore.

The Bush Family, Cheney and Karl Rove are the Axis of Evil and the major terrorists of the world. They have destroyed this country’s standing in the world for generations to come. Greed and power backed by an unstoppable defense industry along with the control of the media is a painfully destructive combination. Our youth are paying dearly with their lives and our children’s children and grandchildren will be paying for the terrible blunders being made. What a tragedy that so many American people have been so duped!

The actions of this presidency are not accidents. They were intentional acts intended to destroy America. This is quite clear when looked at from the globalist point of view. They must tear down America as far as they can, to eliminate all resistance while they built they sick, twisted new world order. But I have a strong intuition that they won’t get very far with their madness…

To respond to the Bush Administration’s position that establishing timelines for troop redeployment and benchmarks for the Iraq government would be a mistake, it might be of interest to note that just this week the protestants and the Catholics in Ireland established a peaceful resolution to their decades old bloody feud. And it was due to Great Britain’s offer to withdraw their troops and their ruling powers if the two sides sat down and came to joint rule of their country. A timeline and benchmarks. It worked. Imagine that. No, we can’t just leave the mess the Bush administration created in Iraq, but we can create benchmarks with consequences that will have a resounding impact on the motivation of the new Iraq government and people to stop the insurgency themselves and bring peace on their terms and with their constitution, not our ideals of democracy forced on a different culture and a demoralized people.
Bush and Cheney should be impeached for their actions and a new administration put in place to end this madness.

9/11 was an inside job and the past two elections were rigged. Bush is a criminal and his entire administration should be tried for war crimes.

Our country is in dire straits. In many aspects. Poor leadership. Selfish programs that benefit a few.
This so called War. We will never be able to leave. Because if and when we do. These places will revert back to what they were before. You cannot change a country with force by military thuggery. Especially when there’s no real change to be expected from those who occupy. Just poor policy that is intended to create poor results. To justify more money spending on a Black hole.
I’ve stopped kidding Myself months ago.
9/11? Inside Job. Our economy? Forsale to the nearest Communist elitist banker or broker. Foreign of course!
Justice in America? Only if there are prosecutors willing enough, higher ups that Know what real US Constitutionalism and Bill of Rights stands for. That have the nuts to trial some would be corrupted politician/foreign corrupted Visa holder or Here in America with their Polictical Amnesty. At their own detriment of course!
CAFTA, NAFTA, ATFA, NAU? It’s all been signed! This is NOT The United States of America anymore. This is some kind of JOKE Big Business thinks it can get away with!
Bush/Cheney/Rice,etc.? They ain’t anybody! Just someones Puppet.
Wake up America. While you still have time………because you’re almost out.

i definitely think the general has a right to voice his opinion he quit his carrier in protest so he must have believed in the cause the president is a lying dirt bag who does not care about the poor and the middle class only his elitist friends and his killing Americans without giving citizens a good reason for this war and now he intends to attack Iraq bush and chenney are evil and heartless men that see nothing but money and they think its their divine right to kill our men and women and put us further into debt president bush does not care what the people think and demand from him as a president which is a fair lawful system and straight forward information concerning our country not lies and story they made up over dinner to feed us so they get what they want they serve the devil and that is really the truth.

I’ll tell you 1 more thing that’s wrong with this country. The GD MEDIA. And what it >>>doesn’t<<<< tell Us!
Hey you know what? I served with HONOR!
And I understand what My fellows think they are fighting for. But they are being MISLEAD! By the Policy being made by their Representives.
here we have our Brave men & Women off fighting for freedom and liberty for people in Iraq and Afghanistan! While our government sells it away with treaties to foreign IMF bankers and CFR Policy makers. That are exploiting this country for evey penny they can suck out of it, as they ruin it. And Turn This beautiful great country, full of very decent people. Into a third world nation! For a few peoples benefit.
And I'm friggen sick of IT! I'm sick of seeing My Fellow brothers in arms used for target practice for an ungreatful nation Like Iraq. As Their leaders create crap policy that does nothing to relieve them of their burdens.
These people who are running things. Will not be happy until they draft every able man/women in america that would stand up to tyranny in America against corruption and get them killed fighting for nought in the middle-east.
The the propaganda of fighting the War on terrorism is BS! Especially when that War on terrorism(And the peopel propgating it) now calls US Border Patrol agents, criminals for doing their JOBS! That calls GOOD Cops who do their jobs with respect to their neighbors, terrorists. I could go on. But why? people in this country will learn the truth eventually. At their own detriment! I'm done!

What these generals are doing is effectively attempting to undermine the basic premise of our Constitution – civilan supremacy over the military. Giving advice to our civilian leadership is indeed their responsibilty. Resigning in protest when they don’t like the decisions made is something else. I believe the word is coups.

For thos who compare the Iraq situation to Vietnam, we would of won that war if libs did not tie the hands of the troops. and when we pulled out over 2 million people were slaughtered.
The 9/11 commission that te socialist hold up stated that the terrorists were at war with us during Clinton pathetic presidency and nothing was done. Which led up to 9/11.
Why don’t we wait until we see a mushroom cloud before we do anything. I mean the libs waited to take out Hitler after he killed more then 12 million people.
As far as the General resigning in protest, he was up for retirement. If he did not like it he would of resigned years ago. And remember Clark ran for the socialist party in 2006. They are looking for book deals.
When the socialist’s (Democrats) call our troops Nazis, terrorist in the middle of night I do not think that is supporting our troops and any ex military man that can support that party did not join the military for honor but to use it.

Why just now? These Retired Generals should have spoken long time ago like opposed the war before it got started. Why just now?
Do these people wants to get notice and are up for something for themselves or just have nothing to do?
Just cut off the war funding and get the GI’s home. Let GW & Dick fight their own war. Maybe send the Bush Twins and Cheneys kids.

National Public Radio began airing the protest of Army Officers against the Iraq War.
Pres. Bush’s lies are brought into the daylight by the U.S. Troops.
It’s time to demand the RESIGNATION of President Bush.
Adam of CA

Nice try Tim! (I am repeating this from a posting a few days ago.) You may not want to acknowledge it, but George W. Bush WAS ELECTED President of the United States in 2000 and, AGAIN, in 2006. If anyone tried to steal the 2000 election it was the mainstream media in their attempt to delay calling the early Bush victories and overhyping the early Gore victories. They held off calling states for Bush that they knew he would win by double digits. And the networks called Gore the winner of Florida an hour BEFORE the polls on the panhandle were closed. About an hour later, the networks reversed the call and announced Bush the winner. All of that was an attempt to discourage Republican voters in states where the polls were still open and suppress their votes. It worked, but fortunately not enough! Then Vice President Gore decided to cherry-pick a handful of counties for recounting, hoping to find enough votes to overturn the election. He failed! Several media teams recounted the votes and they all verified that George W. Bush, did in fact, win Florida and the national election.

What is the point of this group? To advocate the pull out of Iraq, before a stable government can form, like South Vietnam? Google how many South Vietnamese died in the Killing Fields.
Why not put effort into killing the terrorists (Al Qaeda in Iraq)?

R O N P A U L 2008
BRING SANITY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE COUNTRY

Another note those international observers were asked t come in 2004 not 2000, also are they not the same ones who said that Iraq under Hussein had open elections and also Venezula. They only think Elections are honest when a Dictator or Socialist wins. Also please explain the 2000 people who are no longer alived that voted for Gore in NJ and the 2500 in Washington State?? All Democrats.. This is a Fact look it up before condeming it.

Denying the fact that Islamic extremists want to destroy America and the rest of the civilized world in order to form their own Caliphate is the real insanity. Democrats flexing their newly acquired muscle in an attempt to micro-manage the war in Iraq is the real insanity. Calling for the immediate withdrawl of our troops from Iraq — regardless of the consequences that have been forecast should we leave Iraq prematurely (even the Iraq Study Group Report warned: “If we leave and Iraq descends into chaos, the long-range consequences could eventually require the United States to return.”) — is the real insanity. Attempting to roll back the clock and reverting to a September 10, 2001 mindset is the real insanity.
Your hatred for President George W. Bush has blinded you from the real truth: The Islamic extremists want us dead because we refuse to convert not only to Islam, but to their extremist interpretation of Islam. It’s that simple! And they are willing to kill anyone, even other Muslims, who stand in their way. President Bush did NOT cause this. These Islamic extremists have been killing Americans for over 20 years. But it is President Bush who is doing everything he possibly can — fully within the powers given to him by the U. S. Constitution and Congress — in order to prevent any future attacks against the homeland by these Islamic extremists. Al Qaeda DECLARED Iraq as their primary battleground. Cutting and running from Iraq will only give al Qaeda the victory they are looking for. We must defeat the Islamic extremists wherever they are! It is better to take the battle to them, rather than wait until they return to Main Street U. S. A.
Thank you President Bush for your courage in standing up against the Islamic extremists; and remaining resolute in your efforts to defeat them wherever they are!

Sorry Ken, I meant to say you could not of said it better not James in my last post. So Great post Ken

Before israel, all Arab countries wanted to do was sell the USA cheap oil.
I remember even in the 60s paying 25 cents a gallon.
Think about it.
It is time to dump AIPAC, and kick out all israeli/American nationals like Chertoff who support and are the real terrorist.

Real Deal, I am the one who wrote “Denying the fact…” not Spock. I admit to ignorance when it comes to understanding the point of your comment, especially your reference to Adolph Hitler. My saying that the Islamic extremists want to turn the world into their own Caliphate is not my opinion; and certainly not my words (nor is it my prediction). It is the words of these Islamic extremists. It is what they preach to their flock and it is what they teach their children! If history is such a friend of yours, as you claim, then you should understand that attempting to appease someone whose sole purpose in life is to bury you, will only result in your burial.

@Spock making excuses for his rapist.
” Halliburton,………is pretty much the only American company big enough to handle rebuliding Iraq”
The Iraqi construction companies and etc who built Iraqi infrastructure in the first place and had made phenomenal progress since the last time the USA trashed the whole country, COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE TASK OF REBUILDING. Then you silly son of sam, you would long since have given them enough money for the job and it would probably be at least half finished. They did it last time, there is history to prove I AM RIGHT!
Instead you silly deluded sheepy, as it is now where the money is pouring into Iraq (in concept anyway) in billions and no discerbable result is to be seen. Unless you happen to be a Halliburton accountant or executive.

Rabbit, I did send a comment this morning that has yet to be posted. There have been occasions that I have had to click onto “Feedback” and request that my comment be posted (i.e. one of my earlier comments and then the one this morning). I’ll see if this is posted before the other one.

If anyone doubts the intent and the goal of the Islamic extremists, Google or Yahoo “Fouad Hussein.” He is a Jordanian journalist and author of the book, “Al-Zarqawi: The Second Generation of Al Qaeda.” Read about Fouad Hussein and what he reports and then judge for yourself as to whether the Islamic extremists’ threat is real or imaginary.
It IS my opinion that the history books (unless the gates of Armageddon swing open before then) will be very kind to President Bush. He will one day be hailed as a great visionary. One who tried to convince the world of the threat that these Islamic extremists posed to the civilized world but failed. One who demonstrated tremendous courage in putting national security and the survival of Western Civilization before party politics. Laugh all you want! The day will come that every Bush-hater will recognize their hatred blinded them from the real truth. Unfortunately, another day will come! But for far too many, there won’t be a day after!

Hey Real Deal, First as already pointed out I was not the one who wrote that, but I do agree with it. I think you read it wrong, I presume he is talking about people ignoring the threat that the islamic terrorists is a danger, just as the libs ignore Hitler.
Kathy on a little note the cut backs to the military happened under Clinton, not Reagan who built it up. from Carter’s cutbacks.

rewinn: “…why aren’t they attacking Sweden…”
Give them time!
There was an article in the Christian Science Monitor, by James Brandon, back on December 6, 2005, regarding the growing unrest within the Muslim community of Malmo, Sweden. He reported: “Bosnian authorities arrested a Muslim Swede in Sarajevo in October for possession of explosives while Islamist websites published several inflammatory but unsubstantiated claims in late summer that a mujahideen training camp has been established in southern Sweden.” He also reported: “…many Malmo Muslims are turning to increasingly radical forms of Islam…”