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Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okl, claims he overheard Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barbara Boxer, D-Calf, chatting about how out of control talk radio had become.
"They said we’ve got to do something about this," Inhofe told a talk radio host. (LINK) "That ‘these are nothing but far right wing extremists, we’ve got to have a balance, there’s got to be a legislative fix to this.’"
I’m still waiting for comment from Clinton’s and Boxer’s offices….but this comes on the heels of a new study by a liberal group (LINK) that claims that in Spring 2007 "of the 257 news/talk stations owned by the top five commercial station owners, 91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative."
Even Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., has complained about talk radio as of late, saying last week "Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem" and “I’m sure senators on both sides of the aisle are being pounded by these talk-radio people who don’t even know what’s in the bill."
(Lott was complaining about the immigration reform bill being scuttled.)
“The people that he’s actually complaining and whining about now are the ones that tried to defend him when everybody else was throwing him overboard when he made those joking comments at a tribute to Strom Thurmond,” groused the omnipotent Rush Limbaugh (LINK)
What do you think?
–jpt
UPDATE: Boxer’s and Clinton’s offices got back to me.
"Senator Boxer told me that either her friend Senator Inhofe needs new glasses or he needs to have his hearing checked, because that conversation never happened," says Natalie Ravitz, the communications director for Boxer.
"Jim Inhofe is wrong," says Philippe Reines, Clinton’s press secretary. "This supposed conversation never happened – not in his presence or anywhere else."
AFTERNOON UPDATE: Even though Inhofe prefaced this story by saying "I was going over to vote the other day," the Oklahoman this afternoon told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that this alleged conversation took place "about three years ago."
That’s kind of weak.
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“legislative fix to this”
Fix what, now free speach is under attack, ill go out on a limb and say people dont tune in and listen to anything they dont want to.
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Radio is paid for by advertisers, nobody is forced to listen. What are they fixing?
Our freedoms as Americans are in jeopardy everyday, but I never would have guessed we needed to protect ourselves from our own government!!!!!
Posted by: Jodie | June 22, 2007, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Is not that what Socialists do, Eliminate opposing views? Be Wary America the Socialist from the Democrat party are trying to take over!!
over 90% of so called journalists are liberal on the Networks and newspapers, per a MSNBC study (which is a liberal TV news station itself)
The so called Fairness doctrine was in place prior to the 80′s because of limited Radio and TV stations, which in the 80 the FCC said that it was not needed anymore due to the increase number of stations on both radio and TV and that it is un-constitutional.
The study group which I have to say Jake, you do a good job in saying the truth about it that it is a liberal organization. But did you know it is funded by George Soros, the Clintons and the DNC.
If any disagrees with this look at Chavez, he is closing down TV and Newspapers that disagree with him.
For those who support even after that hopefully you will never have an opinion that goes against the Hard Left Libs like Hilary
Posted by: spock | June 22, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am
If anyone remotely thinks this a is a good idea then our country is doomed. Free speech is what is under attack nothing else
Posted by: Brian | June 22, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Although talk radio tends to be extreme conservatism, “free speech” allows them to do so. The main issue is the politicians and suits in Washington allow themselves to listen (and care).
Posted by: reyonthehill | June 22, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
If you think the stuff that spews out of the mouths of extremist on media that is owned and controlled by a handful of extremist, is not just extremist propaganda you’re already a zombie. The problem is that a very few people, that you can count on one hand, control what is said. Given the business dynamics of radio and their ownership, there is currently no way for there to be any other viewpoint on radio. It’s only free speech if there is a way for other people to voice their opinion and for their to be a debate. That can not happen now. As long as one or two people own all that can be said, it is NOT free speech.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am
no one listens to talk radio except old people. the internet is the way of the future, and it has an balanced offering of the good, the bad, and the ugly. whenever any legislation or company tries to reign in the freedom of the internet, then there will be great cause for alarm.
Posted by: J | June 22, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Before anyone says that “Talk Radio” does allow a debate, do you really think that the people that are put through to talk with the hosts are just random samplings of people calling in? It’s a SHOW! The topics, the points, the people calling in, are all CONTROLLED. No real debate is going on. Apparently they are slick enough at it, that Joe Q. Public forgets this.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Unfortunately, all those “old people” you speak of, get out and vote. Talk Radio tells them to and how to vote.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
What about ABC and Jake Tapper? I think he needs a counter opinion next to him before he is allowed to talk. How about a 62 year old gay(I am assuming he is straight) black woman. Is that a counter balance? This is crazy that politicians have the guts to even talk about this without immediatly being thown out of office.
Posted by: paul jacobsen | June 22, 2007, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Isn’t it cool that both parties, left and right, feel they are under attack by the same programs?
Posted by: feynmanlives | June 22, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am
It seems lately our Government is against both sides of the aisle.
FYI – Young people listen to talk radio actually more then old people unless you consider anyone older then 15 to be old.
Mike of course they pick the topics, what when they are talking about oil you want them to have people call in and talk about cooking a cake.
People call in on the issue that is being talked about at the time. They are not setups. So please, they are suppose to give their opinions and entertain at the same time, otherwise they would not be interesting. I heard a lot of debate, they offer time to all politicians, it is just that the libs can not handle real questions (how are they to handle the world)
And here is a very important item, if you do not want to listen to talk radio or particular host, CHANGE the CHANNEL.
Posted by: spock | June 22, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Air America went belly up even with the tons of cash Soros dumped into it. Face it conservatives dominate talk radio because folks want to hear it. It is very easy to change the channel on every radio I have ever seen.
Posted by: ragebot | June 22, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Talk radio is geared to those who listen to it; a liberal talk radio will only work during a presidential election year, after it has ended no one will listen. Beside the TV and newspaper tare managed by the liberals so leave the conservatives their radio.
Posted by: Howard | June 22, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am
You mean talk radio that brought forth the Dubai Ports deal that legislators tried to put through? Or Talk Radio that keeps the American Citizen informed on how our government has turned their backs on American Citizens regarding immigration?
The new accusations of the liberal media contributing to election campaigns? Thank you Sen.Inhofe for bringing to light this issue about political control over what we see, hear and read. Term limits now!
Posted by: S. Braden | June 22, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am
The main thing, in case the press forgets about it, is to pound issues like this when the debates come. Save this story and circulate it through email everday. Everyone should know that Hillary is running because of a selfish motive that serves the interests of no other young, $65k per household, white, gun-loving hetero males like myself.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Will be interesting to see if any bills are really presented. If one does come up, Clinton and/or Boxer can just have someone esle sponsor it, and they can sign on later. Happens all the time – on both sides of the aisle.
Posted by: Leonard | June 22, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
If politicians don’t like what’s being said over the air about them, then maybe they should stop f****** up!
How is it the media’s fault? It’s not the media’s fault someone like Duke Cunningham got caught abusing his office. It’s not the media’s fault G. Bush, Jr. shoved white snow up his nose. I’m sure Gary Condit would love to blame the media for his involvement in Sandra Levy’s death, but that’s all on him.
The Republicans claim the media are nothing but left-wing liberals out to undermine them. The Democrats claim the media are right-wing paid demolition artists.
Posted by: Snak-bahr Kashir | June 22, 2007, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Who knows what the demographics are for listeners of Talk Radio. I haven’t read any surveys on it. I believe its a cross section of all ages. It appears to me to be people who can listen to the radio. Working class folks, office folks, who can listen in during the day or on the way to work. I do not listen to radio at all except to sample some of the freak shows every once in a while to see how bad they are. It appears to appeal to the same kind of folks who get sucked into the watching Jerry Springer. I do know that in my discussions on the Internet political forums (which are real discussions BTW) that most of the participants are younger.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Snak-bahr Kashir – you point out Republicans bad issues, but you left out all the Libs, issues like Boxer, Jefferson
By the way it is the libs that want to control the airwaves not Conservatives.
You are right both sides should stop messing up, do not attack the messengers.
Lenord – it will be brought up to try to cover Clinton, the Clinton’s divert attention from themselves by bringing up thing like this. Do you really think they hate the Lewinkski thing, while that was going on Clinton did a lot of other thing against the American people and used that for cover. They will use it to say that what is being said about Hilary is false and it is the right Wing conspiracy. And if she gets into office when will shut it down.
Freedom of Speech is under attack form the libs.
Posted by: spock | June 22, 2007, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Talk Radio regulated by the Goverment?? NO Does the true voice of the American people scare these politicians that much? It should
Posted by: brokenfeather53 | June 22, 2007, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
I love talk radio. It give me the chance to hear some details and info in news stories, which tv news simply can not devote the time to covering. The more info the better. I watch NOW on PBS, Nightly News on NBC, and Listen to Mike, Rush and Sean on the radio. I read 3 newspapers a day, and visit web sites for Drudge & ABC News. I can’t get enough!
Posted by: Mitch | June 22, 2007, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
I didn’t come up with the term, but if you are wondering why I call right wing extremist talk shows, “freak shows”, it’s because one of the big physiological tricks they play on listeners is to turn anyone who doesn’t agree with their extremist views into a “freak”. Rush and O’Reilly are experts at it (they should run a circus sideshow, oh wait, they do). Do people really think half the nation, “the libs” as ragebot called them, are that different from themselves. Listen at them, you’ll here it happen.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Mike. If for no other reason, you should listen to talk radio for what is being said. It sounds like in your case it would be “Know thine enemy”.
Posted by: Mitch | June 22, 2007, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
The rise in abrasive, mostly unaccountable political talk radio can be traced directly to the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine. Rescinded in 1987 by the Federal Communications Commission, the original doctrine made sure that radio and television broadcasters covered political topics with fairness.
It seems that lies and FUD broadcast daily on radio stations is OK and “free” as long as it’s coming from the conservatives?
Posted by: ready910 | June 22, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Inhofe is a bizarre person and a complete embarressment to the United States of America.
The things that come out of his crackpot mouth you’d expect to hear from a conspiracy theorist who OD’d on crack.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
The Fairness Doctrine is a meaningless concept now that the internet is here. All it will do is give the liberal left the chance to lie some more and be exposed.
Posted by: jp | June 22, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Hillary “Chavez” Clinton, Babara “Chavez” Boxer and Trent “Chavez” Lott seem to have a lot in common. I wonder what it is?
Posted by: andy thompson | June 22, 2007, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
What the left feels threatened by in Talk Radio is…its success! The fact that AirAmerica and other attempts at humorless screed-mongering have failed is what they dread. SO typical to want a “legislative” solution–i.e. imposing the will of the people who”know better” on the will of the PEOPLE expressed thru the marketplace. I believe Imhofe, and disbelieve Boxer and Clinton, who are proven liars.
Posted by: Observer | June 22, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
How do you think the television news programs and the newspapers would respond if they were required to print stories equally balanced? Dan Rather et al would have been out of business long ago. This is a frontal attack on freedom of speech, exactly the type of speech that was intended to be protected by our founders. Have you ever listened to a progressive (read “liberal”) radko talk show? It is no wonder they can’t compete on their merit but feel they need help from the likes of Clinton and Pelosi.
Posted by: steve stucker | June 22, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Of course they are going to deny saying it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. What-did Hillary all of a sudden start telling the truth? When did that happen? Of COURSE they want to shut down conservative talk radio. They want to pipe only the liberal mindset into the public’s ears. There is only one point of view–the socialist (Democrat) point of view. At least that’s what they would like. And they HATE the fact that there is any opposition to their complete oppression.
Posted by: whocares | June 22, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
My, my. So our “betters” wearing the purple in the august senate want to ‘shut up’ talk radio. How interesting – especially when one considers that ‘talk radio’ is less ‘host talk’ than ‘citizen talk’. Seems that our “betters” don’t want to be pestered by us lowly peons (or, in their superior opinion, peon is really two words). And we once upon a time thought that congress represented US? Reality check. This congress is the best that money can buy – and it seems that the Chambers of Commerce have truly bought off most of them and now the congress is representing the monied interests.
Posted by: Pamela | June 22, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Like I would believe ANYTHING that came from Boxer or Clinton’s office! Just another case of Dem Senators wanting Fascist thought control laws. 1984 anyone?
Posted by: Cory | June 22, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
It seems that Washington is perfectly content to place paperbags over our heads so we may not see their corruption, plug our ears so we may not hear of it and tape our mouths shut so we may not speak up against it. As American Citizens “ELECTED” to represent the people of this Nation is it not time you took the cotton out of your ears? And open your eyes? Get out of bed with big business and get in touch with those who can and will vote you in or out of office.
Posted by: brokenfeather53 | June 22, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Again, into every aspect of life the ones without full control want to get it anyway they can. Is this another trend for trying to MAKE equalness where it is not wanted nor needed. Talk radio, specifically the more conservative talk is flourishing because people are listening to it! Get it, We want it. The Air America type radio doesn’t make it because We DON”T WANT it! Make those radio programs more marketable and tuned to the audience and it will be successful. Why this crazy “affirmative type action” forced on talk radio. Rather than fight it perhaps these political junkies should listen to what US the people who listen to talk radio believe and want. Because you the political control freaks don’t like what WE the people want and believe, is your own problem. These gustapo type moves politically and legislatively are throwbacks to the socialist and communist means to dictate and rule people. America, the United States shines because we were founded for the people. Leave us alone. Leave Talk radio alone. If you want to make a change, either listen to the people as WE speak thru OUR talk radio our continue to try to make your own successes in radio on your own. But use a different format than air america. We are smarter than you want to be kings and queens politician believe. Leave us alone!
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I have no doubt that the lunatic lefties that make up the current Democrat Party fully intend to do everything in their power to stifle the speech of anyone who disagrees with them. Look no further than McCain-Feingold for proof of that agenda.
Posted by: Publius | June 22, 2007, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Putin would love to have Clinton and
Boxer come over to Russia and plan their radio and TV programming after they “fix” ours!
Posted by: Marcus | June 22, 2007, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Hey Libs, if talk radio, Fox News, and the internet promise to be fair, will you demand ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NYT, Wash. Post, and almost every other major newspaper be fair in their political coverage?
You gotta be kidding me!
Posted by: Chip Fields | June 22, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
“Oxycon” you miss the point, of course. Talk Radio is accountable…to the MARKET and the PEOPLE. If the ads didn’t sell, if the numbers of listeners weren’t there, it’d be GONE…just like the Air America non-viable un-accountable stuff that went BUST. Those who DISTRUST the marketplace are the only people who want an outside “accountability police’ to enforce their own political views regardless of their acceptance or market demand….and their names are Hillary and Barbara…and you.
Posted by: Comment | June 22, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
spock, except for a few small exceptions, control of the airwaves in any form is already complete. It’s all owned by a few mega corporations, most of which are extensions of a few billionaires. These entities use the airwaves they own, to take the country in directions that benefit themselves. The urban legend that the TV media is “owned” by the “libs”, is encouraged to give the impression that these few entities do not own all the airwaves. What “libs” where? Who are these “libs”?
What gets me is that somehow we believe that there is really a national discussion going on. All these forms of communication are one-way. Anything that gives the impression that they are not, is an illusion. They are completely and absolutely a controlled, sophisticated product.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
st more trash from the fascist brown shirt crowd. First, they use MediaMatters, funded by George Soros, to take people on talk radio’s statements out of context, as a way to discredit them. Then they use an organization headed by Leon Penetta, a hack in a previous Dem administration, to put out this BS. Here’s a glimpse into Hillary’s operational style.
In his new biography of Hillary Clinton, ” A Woman in Charge,” Carl Bernstein recalls April 23-25, 1993, the 94th, 95th and 96th days of the Clinton administration, when the president and Mrs. Clinton attended a retreat with Senate Democrats in Williamsburg. It was already clear that the Clintons were not going to fulfill their promise to present “comprehensive” health-care legislation within their first 100 days. Bernstein reports that two of the most respected and, for Mrs. Clinton’s purposes, most important senators, Pat Moynihan and Bill Bradley (both were on the Finance Committee, which would handle her legislation; Moynihan was chairman), were appalled by her highhandedness.
Bradley asked her whether the tardiness in delivering her bill would complicate passage by making the bill competitive with other legislative goals, and he suggested that some substantive changes in her proposal might be necessary. Bernstein writes:
“No, Hillary responded icily, there would be no changes because delay or not, the White House would ‘demonize’ members of Congress and the medical establishment who would use the interim to alter the administration’s plan or otherwise stand in its way.”
Bradley and Moynihan heard this, Bernstein says, “with disgust and distrust.” Her plan never even came to a vote in a Congress controlled by her party.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Isn’t it funny how right wing trash talk radio’s sole purpose in life is to destroy Democrats by mostly lying about them with smear attacks, considering that the people doing the character assasinating are:
a). a thrice married crackhead hypocrite who took a bottle of Viagra with him to the #2 child sex vacation spot in the world.
b). a pontificating, self righteous @ss who made harrassing, obscene phone calls to his unwilling victim while masturbating with a sex toy vibrator.
c). a man of “virtues” who gamble away enough money to feed an entire third world nation for one year.
d). a closeted, self loathing gay man who likes to smear raw egg on his male lover’s naked bodies.
But if you engage these right wing hypocrites with the exact same tactics they engage in, then you are a bad person, a leftwing looney.
You have to be on crack to listen to a word these morons say.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
When liberals want to shut down talk radio, they want to shut down the voice of the people, because talk radio is the citizens forum, the people’s forum…unlike the major broadcast news organizations which belong to the liberals. That pesky little constitution and that crazy bill of rights!
Posted by: MJ | June 22, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
As a liberal, and one who supports free speech, I have no problem with right wing talk shows. What I do have a problem with is the use of “public airwaves” to provide only one point of view (right-wing), which happens to be the unfortunate truth. Now before you start screaming about liberal bias in newspapers, remember that newspapers are not owned by the public, they are owned by corporations. The “people” own the airwaves, or at least that is what we are told.
Imagine this: Militant Atheists run 90 percent of all radio stations. You get into your car, turn on AM radio, and station after station, no matter what part of the country you happen to be in, you are told that you are evil, that you are contributing to the destruction of the country, etc. How would you feel? Would you complain? Would you feel upset that the government allows such a misuse of a public good? If you happen to be liberal, or not a republican, that’s what it feels like.
Posted by: Will | June 22, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Depends on what your definition of “took” is.
Posted by: gman | June 22, 2007, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Liberals only support free speech when its theirs.
Liberals cannot stand descent, and when it occurs they need to find a way to stop it.
Posted by: jared | June 22, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Funny, It sounds exactly like what I have been anticipating hearing for the fascists
Posted by: kaosktrl | June 22, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Let’s see, a boxer, clinton denial, with character assasination of the accuser = definate accurate statement by inhofe. Somethings never change, aka, the clintons and friends.
Posted by: marko | June 22, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Sure, can’t you just hear these beothces saying “Yes, we said what Inhofe caught us saying and we really hate the right wing and all right wing talk radio and will do everything we can to crush them like our hero Hugo Chavez and Lenin.”
You got one lying and the other one swearing to it. Remember Clinton with the Rose Law debacle: “I don’t recall, I can’t remember, It isn’t clear..” and then all of a sudden 3 years later “Oh, honey look what I found in the library.”
Posted by: auspatriotman | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Lott, Clinton and Boxer want to FIX talk radio… eh? Because it is critical of them? That’s an insulting slap. Like we’re too dumb to have our own thoughts and it’s all “talk radio’s” fault. How arrogant these people are… and one wants to be your president. OMG.
Posted by: Arfy | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
How can talk Radio POSSIBLY be bad if both sides of the aisle ( Shame there are only two) have an issue with what’s being said on market driven airways? If you “Progressives” want equal radio time, work, earn and succeed at the game of radio. Air America was a good try, but who wants to listen to non stop America Sucks?. Put something on that the public will listen to and support and you can make all the censorship talk worthless. Silencing the opposition is the work of tyrants and despots, whom should all be eliminated from the public discourse. Grow up Libs, it’s a big boys world out here.
Posted by: Bearway | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Depends on how you define Conversation…
Posted by: Vespucci | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
If you all think there’s a backlash against Congress for the Amnesty debacle, wait until they try to shut up conservative radio talk shows. Is it any wonder the approval rating for Congress just hit 14%! Would you believe 5% next year?
They’re morons. We’re stupid, ignorant idiots for electing ‘em.
Of all the senators, Boxer is absolutely the worst one. Of course, she’s lying when she claims she never said it. She always lies. All she ever does is lie. She’s built her career on it. Check it out.
Posted by: G Hamilton | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Will the democrats FIX the issue that the televised and print media are overwhelmingly pro-democrat and anti-republican. Also they need to FIX the fact that folks in the media donate money to dems over republicans 9 to 1.
Posted by: Neil | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Senator Inhofe should get in the habit of carrying a micro cassette recorder. He said, she said won’t get us anywhere. As much as I’d like to believe the conversation happened, this is America and there’s no proof. As for the Left’s perceived need to regulate talk radio, let’s ask Al Franken if he would have been willing to take a more conciliatory line towards the Administration in the spirit of fairness. He’s no more obliged to be fair to GBW than Rush is obliged to be fair to Billary.
Posted by: Cable Guy | June 22, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Denial from the staff means zip! Remember Clinton’s former chief contributor said” The Clinton’s lie and they do it very very well.” Of course the two twits said it. And, they meant it!
Able Easy
Posted by: Able Easy | June 22, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Regardless of my feelings towards Inhofe, his story does reek of the truth. There’s nothing unrealistic at all about Hillary and Boxer wanting to use the police powers of government to silence those who don’t agree with their socialist Nanny State agenda. I don’t believe their denials at all.
Posted by: Damien Kane | June 22, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
whether its liberal or conservative media in any form, its still free speech. The fact that anybody is talking about ‘handling’ talk radio is pretty dam scary.
Posted by: Keli | June 22, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Nothing would be better than having “progressive” socialist media legislation ensuring that radio was “responsible”. indeed, radio, an antiquated technology, would come close to extinction within months of good appropriate “progressive” control of the media. the left also supported chavez’s sovereign right to control “public” airwaves. ortega just last week announced that opposition media were traitorous and has long ago cut off communication to unsupportive media. yes, democrats. you have a model to follow, soon “our” radio will be as fair and good as cuba’s. which like their education and health care is “superior” to the usa’s services.
retch retch tetch
never debate a socialist without a vomit bag. their self loathing need to re-invent humanity is sickening.
Posted by: gcblues en nicaragua | June 22, 2007, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
left or right, male or female, bottom line – we can’t afford to have a serial liar as president.
Go home Hil, Go home Hil, Go home Hil!!!
Posted by: peter matang | June 22, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Who would you believe a woman who claims to be named after someone she wasn’t named after just to have a gimmick, a woman who steals billing files, a woman who lies about her daughter’s actions on 9-11, a woman who hates our country, a woman who demeans motherhood, but stays with a tramp, just to get ahead, a woman who has her family on the payroll, or a man who stands for the rule of law. Dah, “Stand by your man” Sandy Berger1
Bill Tennant
Lake Arrowhead
Posted by: william tennant | June 22, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Well, if it’s good enough for Hugo Chavez, why not give it the old college try here? After all, the last thing Senators Clinton, Boxer, and Lott need is for the American people to have a choice where they get their information from! Otherwise people might catch on to the fact that these so-called leaders have only but their own self interests at heart, and could care less about the people they are supposed to represent. Over 80% of the country opposes this immigration bill, yet the politicians, who are supposed to do the people’s work, are telling us we are to dumb to understand.
Posted by: Paul Hunter | June 22, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
If this hearsay was mentioned on AM talk radio it must be true.
Posted by: Kevin Good | June 22, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Here’s how the left and people like “Shrillery” handle free speech and the rights of Americans. Silence the American people with “hate speech” laws. Silence the soldier’s, because they dare to speak out against them, and just want to win. Silence the radio waves with the “Fairness Doctrine.” Silence the pulpits with threatening the churches with removal of their tax-exempt status for conducting “political speech” from the pulpit. (I.E.- talking about them.), but exempt your church’s from the same. Silence people who accuse them of wrongdoing by having them audited by the IRS. Silence your political opposition by obtaining their F.B.I. records, where any accusation can be unfairly made, and pass it off to a willing media as an “innocent mistake.” B. J. Clinton was a master of the last three. Silence dissent in the classrooms. Silence speakers and alternative viewpoints by heckling on college campuses. Silence authors by not displaying or reordering their books in the bookstores, even when those books are on the best seller list. Attack the right of free speech, and others, by denying that there is a God, so no such thing as “God given rights.” Disseminate false and misleading information when it serves your interests to advance your cause. Silence the right of being asked serious questions by your opposition, by refusing to appear on any network that doesn’t support you, even if that network’s opinions are supported by over half of the nation, and they are the most watched. Deny the right to free and closed election ballots to people voting on Union membership. Any of you sunshine patriots who support these people should think twice. When you stop marching out of lockstep, and have a different view then the one the media is filling you with, it will be your turn to discover just what an oppressive government can do. You know, “when they came for me, there was nobody left.” When the right of free speech is gone, the only thing separating us from a revolution will be the size of our middle class. Should China, or another nation, put us into economic chaos, all that will remain is anarchy. Woe to you on that day, as I for one will be part of a group of millions that will be ferreting out you lunatics who support the silencing of your fellow Americans, or believe all this nonsensical conspiracy garbage . Then, all the gun laws, faith in global warming, and smarmy intellectual superiority you think you possess in the world won’t be enough to protect you from we, the people, who still love this country. We will be sanctioned in what we do, as the documents that created this great nation demand us to revolution, should we be threatened with the government usurping of our “God given rights.” This is what our founder’s said, in case you’ve forgotten- “Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their saftey and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light or transient causes: and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” Ya’all just might want to keep that in mind.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Trent Lott apparently is against the First Amendment
Posted by: Keli | June 22, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Rush, Shawn et al, watch your back. Remember Vince Foster.
Posted by: Kim | June 22, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Sounds like a number of folks on this thread buy into the idea that if something is “hateful”, it is okay to suppress it. In the face-to-face conversations I have had on this, when I question such attitudes, I usually find that “hateful” actually means “less politically correct than me”, or “hates terrorsts even thought they are simply reacting to hateful US policies”. Somehow saying that the US Military is as bad as the Nazis, or Bush = Hitler, is not hateful however.
Posted by: sherlock | June 22, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Yeah Right! Like we believe what comes out of Clinton’s and Boxer’s mouths!
Posted by: Luc | June 22, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Hey, Jake, maybe next time you get a call from the Clinton and Boxer camps, you might think to ask them if they are in favor of the Fairness Doctrine. But no, you don’t want them going on record saying they are against it so they can vote for it later.
While I am against the Fairness Doctrine, if it ever passes, I can’t wait to see how network TV will deal with giving a stronger voice to those 10% of conservatives in media.
The problem is not talk radio. The problem is that the ideology of the far left is flatly rejected by US citizens when they are given a chance to hear in detail the idiotic beliefs of the far left. Case in point: Air America.
Posted by: Brandon | June 22, 2007, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
For those people who don’t think the “public” airwaves should support partisan talk radio, how about NPR and PBS TV. Nothing could be more partisan, and that is taxpayer supported. Talk radio is not. It’s a private enterprise that must make a profit to survive. How about forcing PBS and NPR to do the same.
Posted by: Richard Stout | June 22, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
As a life long Democrat, I think we, as a country, need to revisit the 1st Amendmend. It was not designed to allow millions of people to be insulted and offended with hate-filled insensitive speech.
Posted by: Ahmed | June 22, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
For Mr. Liberal:
Any legislative fix for “public airwaves” better include broadcast TV which is vastly majority liberal.
I would also like to see fairness in a lot of network programming that slams white male religious conservatives. I also am tired of getting slammed by the liberal TV media.
Posted by: Chris | June 22, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
“As a liberal, and one who supports free speech, I have no problem with right wing talk shows. What I do have a problem with is the use of “public airwaves” to provide only one point of view (right-wing), which happens to be the unfortunate truth. Now before you start screaming about liberal bias in newspapers, remember that newspapers are not owned by the public, they are owned by corporations. The “people” own the airwaves, or at least that is what we are told.
Imagine this: Militant Atheists run 90 percent of all radio stations. You get into your car, turn on AM radio, and station after station, no matter what part of the country you happen to be in, you are told that you are evil, that you are contributing to the destruction of the country, etc. How would you feel? Would you complain? Would you feel upset that the government allows such a misuse of a public good? If you happen to be liberal, or not a republican, that’s what it feels like.”
How about college social science departments that are more or less all liberals. Don’t we the people own these public colleges….is there a problem with bias there… By the way these radio staions are not public property they are owned by private corparations. Except NPR, which is totally liberal.
Posted by: snoopicus | June 22, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
To the person who insist that the print media is different because they are owned by corporations, the papers are delivered on public roads and highways that are owned by the pulic. Whats the difference.
Posted by: J.R | June 22, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Well, when Free Speech is not what Libs want to hear, they Legislate. When parents don’t like the crap on TV, Libs say “turn it off”. So if you don’t like talk radio don’t listen.
Radios like televisions can be turned off and have other options.
To Oxycon, WHAT? You have way more free time than you need, volunteer that time.
Posted by: Bob Ford | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
CLINTON AND BOXER are Communists. They will shut down Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity in a heartbeat given the chance. Today they have earned the HUGO CHAVEZ CENSORSHIP AWARD. They get a free years worth of Citgo gas and autographed pictures of Hugo with Castro. Plus, two weeks free vacation (health care included) with Michael Moore in North Korea.
Posted by: NAVY CHIEF | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
What did they all expect would happen when President Clinton pushed his deregulation of media through Congress making it impossible for the mom and pop stations to compete with the likes of Infinity Broadcasting and Clear Channel and their financial monopolies on the marketplace? When just two companies control 90% of the free-market stations in the USA they also control the content.
Posted by: Razor Ray | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Isn’t it funny how liberals like OxyCon immediately start name calling and spewing venom instead of examining the issues behind these statements. Such hatred. When in fact the descriptions of hated right wing individuals matches that of the liberals exactly. Both liberals and conservatives have their share of nutcases and whackoes, look in the mirror! This is about freedom of speech and three senators trying to control that speech (Lott, Clinton, Boxer). All three should be seen for what they are – cheesy dirtbags.
Posted by: Arfy | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
To paraphrase Paul Harvey,there is little that could not be solved in this country if only the major broadcasting networks were moved to any city west of New York City (or east of Los Angeles). What a perfect example. God bless America
Posted by: Alex | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Why yes there are many “right wing” stations in America and believe it or not most are privately owned and make a profit. Contrast that with “left wing” radio and TV(PBS, NPR tax payer supported ) and the fact that not too many reporters on any of the networks vote Republican I would say the situation is favorable to the Democrats. Fairness doctrines? Don’t make me laugh!
Posted by: dav_0107 | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
If you don’t like what’s being said, turn the dial!!! Obviously the people who listen to it, agree with it. What part of Freedom of Speech don’t you understand????
Posted by: Tom | June 22, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Ms. Boxer and Ms. Clinton also said that they denied having a conversation stating, “That the tooth fairy was real.”
Posted by: Melvin Leppla | June 22, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
It just proves what I have been saying for a long time, Democrats are fascist. They want to control your money, your speech, your health-care, your kids and everything else in your life. Unfortunately our elected Republicans are too weak and corrupt to stop them.
Posted by: Mark | June 22, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
It didn’t happen like the Rose Law Firm records weren’t found in Hillary’s private residence at the White House. Let’s be honest, she lies very poorly compared to her husband.
Posted by: champsummers | June 22, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
There is a reason conservative talk shows are successful…we listen to them, participate, and genuinely like them. There is a reason liberal talk shows fail…no one is listening to them because they too are listening to conservative talk shows to see what they are saying.
Posted by: Marlein | June 22, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Regarding Will’s comment:
What do you think about NPR?
Matt
Posted by: Matt | June 22, 2007, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
You are all under arrest, do not move, do not pass go and do not think or speak freely.
Posted by: Thought Police | June 22, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
By the way, didn’t Chavez just shut down a television station in Venezuela because he didn’t like to opposing views? Sounds like the libs want to shut down any opposition to their “It takes a village” mentality.
Posted by: Luc | June 22, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
The truth has already been established: Rush listeners are consistently the most informed and knowledgeable about the workings of government,economic and foreign policy, and the daily shenanigans of the administration. If you look at these responses, you will notice that the only hystrionic screed is from MJ, who wants to imply that Limbaugh is a viagra popping child molester. Par for the course and by far the most extreme, distorted and hateful of any comment so far. He would do well as a writer for Air America, which proves my point once more. People don’t like liberal radio because it’s humour has become laced with pure invective. Liberals have taken over the blind hatred still so readily ascribed to right wing troglodytes. Never forget, the Nazis were SOCIALISTS in favor of big government, nationalised health-care, and (what a coincidence!)government controlled media.
Posted by: DJ | June 22, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Boxer and Clinton’s office could have cleared things up by responding to the issue. Instead they chose to deny the onversation occurred. If they were aghast at the suggestion they would vote to hinder Free Speech, they chose NOT to say so!
Posted by: Tom Geraghty | June 22, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Wasn’t there also a democratic house memeber from NY who was pushing for a return of the “fairiness doctrine” a few months ago?
Posted by: JIM | June 22, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
The gman fails to understand economics. No matter the media or delivery system (public airwaves) the successes (conversative talk shows) or failures (liberal talk shows) all hinge on the public receiving those airwaves and their support of the stations that braodcast them. Advertisers pay for advertising that’s heard and only the conservatives have something worth listening too – proof is in the economics. His example would not happen in this country at this time because no advertisers would pay for ads unless there were enough listerners to make it profitable to them. I know: liberals hate the word “profit” but everyone should understand that’s where the $$ come from for the payment of taxes which they do like.
Posted by: aginggovtemployee | June 22, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Once again the number on qualification to be a liberal is to be dishonest IE Boxer and Clinton did not have this conservation. Yea right.
Posted by: Logic and Reason | June 22, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I keep reading that both sides of the aisle have problems with talk radio?!? Only one Republican has said anything about it and he is just grousing because his pet amnesty bill was shut down. Lott would rather blame talk radio than admit he is out of step with the American people when it comes to the amnesty bill. So, no, it is the Democrats who want to censor free speech and violate the First Amendment.
Posted by: Brandon | June 22, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Balance, Talk Radio???
Did we NOT heard the other day the reporters, 9 out of 10 are giving money to the democrats and NOT to the republicans.
Hello, hello talk about balance!!!
Posted by: Paulus | June 22, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
People, remember something about the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution:
Not only does it guarantee the right to free speech, but it also provides the indirect corollary that it does *not* guarantee the right to be heard.
This means that if someone offends you by what they say — and assuming that the offending person is in no way physically harming your person or property — you have the freedom to respond or walk away.
It’s none of your business to shut down someone else’s thoughts/opinions, because if you do, sooner or later someone is going to try to do the same to you, and you probably won’t like it.
Posted by: Phil | June 22, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
“As a life long Democrat, I think we, as a country, need to revisit the 1st Amendmend. It was not designed to allow millions of people to be insulted and offended with hate-filled insensitive speech.”
The whole point is to protect speech people do not want to hear. There has never been a threat against people who say what folks want to hear. I get offended when liberals criticize the US, but that is their right, regardless of how I decide to handle it. Your petty personal feelings are not grounds for a constitutional amendment. Lets take gays off tv they offend some people, lets get rid of CSI (too much violence is offensive), lets arrest people who say or do offensive things just like Nazis.
Posted by: snoopicus | June 22, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Right wing commentators have made themselves grotesquely wealthy pandering to the hate and fear that lives so close to the surface in the audience they attract. They scream and point to the enemy- demanding a public lynching, boycott or even assassination (Coulter) of an individual or entire class of fellow human beings without opportunity for their listeners to get both sides. They lie and twist information to deliberately mislead or villify opponents and they will even make up events or attribute fake quotes to keep the millions listening fed an American sized diet of hate. Turning 70% of Americans who are against the Iraq war into enemy’s far worse than terroists, is the status quo for these entrepenuers of hate. Their listeners never note the irony in the fact that their screaming heros are paid millions to keep them from thinking- to keep them angry- and to keep them suspicious of opposing views and like empty, sad robotic beings, they go out and regurgitate what has been successfully dictated to them- identifying “enemies” in minorities and free thinking people not yet indoctrinated in the hate scribe.
Feeding hate to a willing audience pays extremely well. Unfortunately this medium is here to stay. :(
Posted by: midwestvoter | June 22, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
You have to remember, Brandon, the Fairness Doctrine doesn’t apply to television news (like CNN or MSNBC). It only applies to the federally licensed airwaves of radio. It’s the one medium that liberals don’t already control.
WABC owned Rush, Sean Hannit, and Mark Levin until recently. Eisner and Iger are both big liberals. Based on this alone, you know it’s about profit and market. It’s the only place the majority of Americans can hear some truth, so we all tune in. If we want to hear the angry liberals, we don’t need the failed Air America – just trun on CNN and MSNBC.
Posted by: CJ | June 22, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I have the perfect way for Sens. Clinton and Boxer and everyone else who wants free speech to protect flag burners but not the radio (TV is ok right NBC, CNN etc.) – TURN THE FREAKIN’ RADIO OFF. No one is holding a gun to your head making you listen to talk radio so quit your bitching you sad little Liberal babies!
Posted by: snapper | June 22, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Right-wing radio has “the fix” already. Of course they’re going to do any thing they can to stop serious action on their severe advantage on the airwaves. It wouldn’t suprise me if this conversation is made up. I just can’t trust Sen. Inhofe, who also believes global warming and evolution are hoaxes.
Posted by: Montavious | June 22, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
The ubiquity of conservative talk radio has nothing to do with the politics of radio station owners, and everything to do with ad dollars. Paraphrasing a recent comment on the “study” in question: radio programmers would put on a talking houseplant if it generated more ad dollars than what they were currently airing. If Franken and company were able to put on a show that resonated with listeners, they’d be the darlings of the airwaves instead of a failed experiment. Radio programs succeed because they are well received by a given station’s core listener base, which in turn makes the programs interesting to ad time buyers. It’s a simple formula.
Posted by: Dave Hammond | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
HAHAHAHA for Clinton to say she never said it – means SHE DID say it. Dang, even her marriage is a lie.
Posted by: Arfy | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Isn’t it funny to read comments of the morons who obviously went to government schools! So, since when did the “public” gain ownership of the airwaves? Who owned the airwaves before radio? How high does the “public” own the airwaves? The ignorance of some would be embarassing, if it weren’t for the fact that it’s frightening that these mouthbreathing nitwits are allowed to move openly in society. Didn’t you idiots study history???? Go back to your government jobs…and don’t worry…Reid, Pelosi, Clinton and co., will make ALL of your decisions for you…who will doctor you, what you will hear, see and eat…where you can live; how much you will earn (so it will be “fair” you see)…morons.
Posted by: fred | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
It’s just like Limbaugh describes it. This is the Left simply stunned that their views are challenged. To them, they have some unwritten edict granting them the right to govern however they see fit, and if anyone opposes them they simply silence the opposition. You don’t see the Right trying to shut down the New York Times, do you? Keith Olbermann gets to keep his show (that no one watches, by the way), yet Rush (25 million a week) gets shut down? Come on….
Posted by: James | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
How far should the Fairness Doctrine be allowed to go? Should we limit it to just liberal and conservative points of view? How about the equal parts All Sports and Womens Issues on the same station? Spanish and English? Country Western and Hip Hop? Gay issues and Gospel?
How about extending the Fairness Doctrine to television? The networks broadcast their swill over the same public airwaves, satellites and cable that radio stations use. How about allowing conservatives the ability to broadcast a newscast to counter balance the liberal slant we received from the Big 3, CNN and MSNBC?
The market determines what is broadcast on radio. Radio stations change formats all the time base on market driven studies, demographics and advertising revenue. If the public wanted to listen to liberal talk radio, radio station owners would be broadcasting it.
Posted by: Dan | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Typical Women Deny everything
Posted by: don | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Well if Boxer and Clinton deny it then it must not be true! (Note Sarcasm!) My question to you Jake is that when a new version of the “Fairness Doctorine” is sponsored or supported by Boxer, will you take her to the mat for having her staff lie to you or not?
Posted by: Joe | June 22, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
In Response to Chris:
“As a life long Democrat, I think we, as a country, need to revisit the 1st Amendmend. It was not designed to allow millions of people to be insulted and offended with hate-filled insensitive speech.”
Yes, it was. When you start talking about restricting Rights of others, remember that those restrictions will also be used to against you.
Posted by: Paul | June 22, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
This is just another attempt by the left to stiffle freedom of speech. They continuely fail when they start up their own left of center/liberal talk shows and many of these talk shows have been publically supported through taxes. They will use any method at their disposale to “equalize” (shut down)dissent by legislative or legal means. They fail each and every time to use the market forces to determine the viability of left leaning radio talk shows. They also fail to realize that most Americans are center to center right when it comes to Constitutional matters. The day that free speech is is denied its day in the sun is the day our Constitution will become but a piece of parchment and no more valuable than the paper it was written on. God help us if the Libs get their way. Pres. Chavez must be very pleased about their attempts to do this.
Posted by: Joe Stearne | June 22, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
To Chris, the life long Democrat. You people made your bed, now you sleep in it.
Posted by: Ben | June 22, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
The conservative talk shows should NOT be called “talk shows”.
What they are, can be better described as “Lie Fests”.
All they do all day is demonize liberals as if we control the country already, which by this study shows how far from the truth they are.
If I were to compare a conservatives morals and a liberals morals, the liberals would win out EVERY time!
Conservatives are just like the Muslims, if you do not agree with what they want, they want to kill you.
Conservatives are the MOST violent people in our nation.
Or they cry on the House floor when they don’t get their way, like Boner did recently over a bill to fund the war.
If you can think of the worst spoiled little brat that you grew up with, the one who liked to pull the hair of little girls. The one who stole things then cried like a baby when he got caught. The one who whined for days until they got their way.
Well, 9 times out of 10 that kid grew up to be a conservative, and STILL acts the exact same way he did when he was a child. Only now they have actually graduated up to really killing people.
Posted by: Arliss | June 22, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
That’s why PBS has to resort to extorting money from the taxpayers in order to keep afloat. Does anyone think it could survive on private donations only?
I keep calling PBS during their fund raising drives and ask them to send me something since I support them every year through my taxes.
Funny how the MSM claims to be unbiased while 9:1 give money to democrats. I wonder why all the stories regarding Iraq are ALWAYS negative?
“Big Brother” is democrats ramming their beliefs down our throats and threatening anyone who dares to confront them.
Our biggest enemy isn’t Al Qaeda… our biggest enemy already lives among us. they call themselves democrats and they represent the fifth column in our country.
They have successfully destroyed the pillars and foundation that had been built by our forefathers and through the blood and sacrifice of our brave soldiers in the military.
I am afraid the future here looks bleak after witnessing the absolute moronic 2006 elections where control of the legislature was handed back to a bunch of perverts and reprobates. The writing is on the wall and it isn’t written in English.
Posted by: Dumbass Liberal | June 22, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Clearly we should trust what Inhofe thought he heard. Clearly.
Posted by: ixtahdoom | June 22, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Ok.. so the Conversation never took place..
I suppose that Hillary Clinton never said that there was a vast right wing conspiracy against her husband due to talk radio in the 1990′s..Oh wait.. there are recordings of that too.
Trent Lott also is against talk radio because he dose not like whats is being said about immigration bill also..
It proves to me that its not just Democrats and Socialist who do not like the free expression of speech in talk radio… its both sides of the political spectrum
I still wrote my representatives stating that I am apposed to the bringing back of any sort of Fairness Doctrine to talk radio.. and everyone else should do the same!
Posted by: kitanis | June 22, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“This supposed conversation never happened – not in his presence or anywhere else.”
OOPS – Time for the libs to deny, deny, deny – the fact that this is is exactly what they think of free speech in a capitalistic society.
Personally – I do not believe Clinton or Boxer.
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
They said they didn’t say those words. However they did not back away from that policy idea. They are both socialists, period. If Hilary is elected she will try to make criticism of her a crime.
Posted by: Douglas | June 22, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Why am I not surprised by the liberal responses about the ‘hate’ and ‘intolerance’ of the right while at the same time ignoring their own hate and intolerance which, by the way, is far more pervasive in the print and broadcast (TV) media. First they attack FOXNEWS, the only non-liberal news channel and now they attack talk radio. Liberals won’t be happy until their is no opposing view point to theirs. Well, We, the people have something to say about the Hitler-esqe liberals who want to stifle the opinions of those that would disagree with them.
Before chastising someone else for hate and intolerance perhaps you should put your own lies, hate and intolerance in check, but then liberals and democrats don’t find fault with their own hypocrisy.
Posted by: DJH | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Will,
Please explain PBS and NPR and how those belong to the public as well. Clear channel is a private organization. They have tried the liberal crap and it doesn’t fly (read: can’t make money). PBS is the Global Warming arm of the liberal party and NPR is the boring anti-American wing of the liberal party. Just admit that liberal/progressive “idea(l)s” can’t compete with common sense. You also left out TV.. Why? Let me tell you. It is because several studies have been done that show 90 percent of TV “journalist” are left wing. Who do those airwaves belong to? You and the other liberals? I think not. So please spare us the “I am a liberal that believes in free speech” crap.
Posted by: Ron | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I don’t care who said what with these senators. What I care about is the free market and competition here in the United States. Whatever you think of talk radio or Fox News, the fact is that these mediums have thrived in their respective formats (AM radio and cable). Liberals are furious that they can’t control this. Why? Because they cannot sell their product (which are liberal/progressive issues). For the longest time, they’ve had newspapers and the mainstream media and now they have to compete with these 2 new mediums, 3 if you count the Internet. Since they are losing there, they want to legislate rather than compete.
Posted by: Joe | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
I think Savage is right… liberalism IS a mental disorder. Just read these posts from liberals here.
Posted by: AW | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
“Comment” what makes you think talk radio is accountable to the people? What makes you think it’s “advertiser supported”. Have you seen the mega corps books? Who says they make money for the corps? Isn’t it possible it would be worth their while to lose money to get out propaganda that helps them. Just an expense of doing business? Does anyone out there know?
I’m not some nut job. I’m not an extremist in either direction. I read, study, and think about all these political issues and try to come to rational conclusions given the info I can get and personal experience. I would hope this is what every American does. This usually put me in what would normally be the political center. However, these days, the center seems to also be a threat to extremist. Everyone who doesn’t agree with an extreme view is a “freak”. We need to find a way to have real two-way (or 300+ million way) national debate again. At times, this country seems to be tearing itself apart from the inside. Maybe that’s what some people want.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Wow who to believe. Inhofe or a couple of loony leftist known liars? Tough call
Posted by: Rolo | June 22, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The First Amendment protects too many cruel talkings. Sen. Clinton and Boxer are very right.
We must be fair and the conservatives need to shut up once and for all.
Posted by: New American Marcello | June 22, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
And will the Fairness Doc apply to TV news stations? You only have Fox on the right compared to CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN,on the left..you can probably add PBS in there too
Posted by: Nobody | June 22, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
have you noticed how far “hate speech” has evolved for liberals. Now just disagreeing with them is hateful… guess it is just to hard to defend their wishy washy view of the world. Like worrying about the civil rights of terrorists????
Posted by: snoopicus | June 22, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
If Senators Clinton and Boxer are going to try to revive the Fairness Doctrine for talk radio, will they be using the same doctrine for the majority of left leaning newspapers, regular and cable TV news channels as well.
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Jodie,
You said: “Radio is paid for by advertisers, nobody is forced to listen. What are they fixing?
Our freedoms as Americans are in jeopardy everyday, but I never would have guessed we needed to protect ourselves from our own government!!!!!”
Posted by: Jodie | Jun 22, 2007 10:16:41 AM
I agree completely.
Our Founding Fathers had this exact idea in mind when they drafted the Constitution.
Read it sometime.
oledawg
Posted by: oledawg | June 22, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Is it possible to look any more like the archetypal white-bread metrosexual liberal newsman than Jake Tapper? Give him the trophy.
Posted by: Eric | June 22, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
To those who say that Rush Limbaugh is paid to say what he says should understand that Limbaugh owns his program and sells it to interested stations.In other words,he pays himself if he succeeds and goes broke if he doesn’t. On the other hand,Air America is 100% subsidized by billionaires like George Soros. Air America wouldn’t last a week if it had to stand on its content.
Posted by: Tony Rohl | June 22, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
“no one listens to talk radio except old people. the internet is the way of the future,”
I’m in my early twenties, but I guess my name is “No one.” I am very tech-savy, and I listen to talk radio over the internet! Politicians don’t like talk radio because it doesn’t revolve around sound bites (which they can manipulate).
Posted by: "No one" | June 22, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
Looks like the Democrats want to emulate their hero Chavaz and Castro! The’re controlling the media in his country too so they can’t say what they really think about him. The average American family has been pushed to the brink by these Socialist (can’t talk about Church, gays, or anything without calling it hate speech).. so.. one more thing to shut everyone up about. Try to control talk radio with your Socialism and I think it will be the last straw that will send the avarage American out into the streets! WAHT NEXT…CONTROLING BLOGS AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK?
Posted by: J. Mack | June 22, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
To snoopicus:
What about CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC etc…..? No liberal slant there? Right?
How about giving equal time to Conservatives on these TV channels?
Posted by: Luc | June 22, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
To Nobody — you prove the liberal’s point perfectly. Being fair means shutting up the conservative voice.
Posted by: Joe | June 22, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Conservatives are afraid the people won’t know what the legislators are doing. Liberals are afraid the people WILL find out what the legislators are doing.
The greatest threat to liberals is an informed citizenry.
Posted by: Robert | June 22, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
It’s obvious that they will deny it takes place, but politicians tend to lie anyway. Just like celebrities, or so-called celebs anyway…
Posted by: Chris G. | June 22, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
The reason liberal talk shows fail is that they are competing with the big liberal broadcast stations. Skipping Fox can someone name a show that either leans or falls left? The government would have to guarantee LibRadio air time to succeed because their audience has so many outlets.
P.S. It would have to be on FM or XM too!
Posted by: Nathan | June 22, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
‘I overheard them say we need a “legislative fix” to Talk Radio.’
‘[He is defective.] “The conversation never happened.” ‘
“This supposed conversation never happened – not in his presence or anywhere else.”
Someone is lying – either Senator Inhofe or Ms. Ravitz and Mr. Reines on behalf of their respective Senators.
Little wonder why Congress’ approval rating is at an all time low.
My money’s on Senator Inhofe telling the truth.
Posted by: jrg | June 22, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
My husband sets the alarm clock to public radio because he knows I’ll find it so annoying that I will have to get up and turn it off. Invariably, they are going on and on about some liberal cause or another. This morning I think it was something about transgenders or some other malarky. Of course we are going to want to listen to “conservative” radio. For a little bit of sanity in a world of loony leftists.
Posted by: Sue | June 22, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
What we have here is a classic liberal end run; it’s called “Plausible deniability”.
If you believe Clinton & Boxer’s statements, you’ll believe in the Easter Bunny, too.
Posted by: The Thinker | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Let’s not kill the messenger, eh?
Posted by: brian | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Yo rightwing nuts,
Consider the source before you are all up in arms about it. Inhofe, the global warming denying crazy, is senile. So, relax . Your foaming at mouth talk radio will not be shut down anytime soon.
Posted by: Nara | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Hillary lie???
Geee, what a concept!!
Started with Whitewater, Rose Law Firm records, Hillary Health Care, and Now EVITA talk to bring down the entire system…
George Orwell lives again….
Posted by: sdproffitt | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
We definitely need more laws to regulate what people are permitted to hear. I think Hillary should propose a bill in which our thoughts are regulated to ensure fair and balanced-ness.
Posted by: Thought Crime | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Great! The very people who have hidden behind the shield of free speech are now trying to mute it. Why? It is because they don’t like it and it does not support their wacko liberal agenda. isn’t it interesting that they don’t want to constrict the major media outlets like CNN that mimic democratic party talking points. Typical liberal stuff. I have the right to say anything but you conservatives don’t. yuck.
Posted by: kelly green | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Sounds like Inhoffe has gone ’round the bend. He’s hearing voices and having hallucinations.
Posted by: Gman | June 22, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
It does’nt matter if talk radio is left or right, up or down. These people complaining of talk radio don’t need to be in Congress in the first place. Obviously, talk radio must be having an effect, they are listening :-) Talk radio certainly is a powerful medium and they just might be scared of it. The American people have every right to speak out on a public platform, such as talk radio. Talk radio is the most listened to format in my house. I listen to the left AND the right, I keep an open mind and make my own decisions about politics. Not a single station can make my decision for me, it’s MY decision. Leave talk radio alone, they harm absolutely no one. ILLEGAL immigrants harm our country, leglislate about that Hillary, leglislate about that Trott, but leave talk radio alone.
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Quote – The First Amendment protects too many cruel talkings. Sen. Clinton and Boxer are very right.
We must be fair and the conservatives need to shut up once and for all.
Thank you for proving the point, nobody. Liberals aren’t interested in fairness, only stifling the opinions of those that disagree with them. NEWSFLASH – the first ammendment protects conservative speech too. Hypocrite.
Posted by: DJH | June 22, 2007, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Jodie,
I agree completely.
You said:”Radio is paid for by advertisers, nobody is forced to listen. What are they fixing?
Our freedoms as Americans are in jeopardy everyday, but I never would have guessed we needed to protect ourselves from our own government!!!!!”
Posted by: Jodie | Jun 22, 2007 10:16:41 AM
Our Founding Fathers had the same idea when they framed our Constitution.
I suggest you get more familiar with it.
oledawg
Posted by: oledawg | June 22, 2007, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Radio is driven by advertising dollars. Advertising dollars follow the ratings. The book (ratings) come out 4 times a year.
Senators are elected for 6-year terms (24 radio ratings periods). Who is going to be more responsive to “We the people”?
I guess if you can’t sell your crap, you try to force others to shovel it.
Posted by: Paul | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
In most “liberal Western democracies” (look up the true meaning of the term) public broadcasting is heavily funded to provide a balanced perspective. The USA is the only major exception. It’s actually amazing how much PBS is able to accomplish by essentially begging for money, but, of course, much of the programming is indirectly being paid for by the taxpayers of other countries (especially Canada (CBC) and the UK (BBC)). The programming that PBS produces itself is where your dollars (tax or otherwise) are going.
Posted by: Patiently Blissful Sentient | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
“We need to find a way to have real two-way (or 300+ million way) national debate again. At times, this country seems to be tearing itself apart from the inside. Maybe that’s what some people want.”
Rigorous, candid, and tough debating is exactly what a good democracy does. Will it be better as a result of this deiscussion thread…probably not…but it won’t be any worse. When people get passionate or even raving about this or that it is becuase they care. When people stop caring, we will have civility and politeness in the political process in spades. Sometimes people are arguing about values they hold very dear, and comprimise is rarely a good thing when it is your beliefs and integrity you compromise for political expediency.
Posted by: snoopicus | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
And when is enough enough? I am warning you people out there that the Left will not stop until they have complete control – I can tell you out of experience as a person from Holland. In the UK they are talking of denying access to their health system if you smoke or you’re too fat. They will eventually, ‘for the good of society’ (which is their last ditch argument to curtail free speech) prohibit Rush, Savage and Beck from talking and critiquing their positions. Just wait and watch.
Posted by: Martin D. | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Now you understand what is meant by the statement, “…Liberalism is a mental disorder”.
Posted by: Clem Boeke | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Would anyone believe the Hillery camp when they deny anything?
Posted by: wright | June 22, 2007, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
If this conversation never took place, the 2 senators ought to sue Inhoffe, Odds are they won’t because it DID take place!!!
Posted by: Drew | June 22, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
The Left has to silence speech because the only way they can get their way is to force ignorant people into it. Killing millions means nothing to them Just ask Mao, Stalin etc.
Posted by: Chi Vikos | June 22, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Considering people try to “calm” their male dogs by fixing them, what does this mean is in the future for talk radio? Sean & Rush beware!
Posted by: Frank | June 22, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Hugo Chavez would be proud of the liberals attempt to silence their adversary-talk radio and Fox News.
Posted by: Ben | June 22, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Unfortunately, in most places where talk radio is strongest is precisely where there’s little other media or outside media is blocked. So many people have limited access. This is where the Fairness Doctrine was so successful, providing all Americans with access to all points of view. The less ignorant we are, the more vibrant our democracy and the safer this nation is. I frankly don’t see the argument for restricting knowledge or speech via commercial trickery. The founding fathers would be appalled at today’s talk radio.
Posted by: Joe Paranoid | June 22, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
The notion that big “corps” are intentionally losing money in order to push a conservative agenda is nonsensical.
First of all, many of these companies, such as Clear Channel, are publicly traded (Clear Chanel Symbol CCU) and report their earnings every quarter.
Second of all, the ratings books do not lie, and are controlled by media types, who studies have consistently shown to be biased to the left. Conservative radio earns consistently HIGH RATINGS. All five of the top five radio shows in the USA are conservative talkers.
Big ratings equal big fees for ads. Big fees for ads equal big profits. Liberals simply cannot answer Conservatism’s intellectual arguments, so they turn to irrational conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Conservativity | June 22, 2007, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Being from CA, I can assure everyone that Senator Boxer is far more progressive that many other Senators. Thus accounts for the false rumors about her being conservative about anything.
Talk Radio is primarily conservative. Most of the various media have not caught up with the voting results of Nov. 7th, 2006 which established the Democratic Majority. Which proves once again the old adage: Old Habits Die Slowly.
Adam of CA
Posted by: Adam Young | June 22, 2007, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
If Clinton becomes president we will have to re-name our country the United (or probably the Divided)Socialist States of America, once the land of the free. People need to open their eyes to
the fact that Clinton and all her little buddies, like Pelosi, are Socialist and Communists.
Posted by: Matt | June 22, 2007, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Yea and Bill never had sexual relations with that woman………I’m not sure she knows how to tell the truth. Pretty stupid for the supposed smart women.
Posted by: Barry | June 22, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
lets see, who to believe. hillary, who probably had her former lover shot, or boxer who probably wouldn’t tell the truth if her life depended on it. lets not forget. these are die hard socialists who have been known to tell tall tales.
Posted by: phil | June 22, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I believe Sen. James Inhofe. I listened to the interview online and noted that he even tried to keep the interviewer from blowing it out of proportion. (Conclusion being: He said what he did not as “gotcha” or to “shock” but simply to tell what he heard.) Now, to make a point, I say, “Who cares?” Nothing they could ever do would actually pass. The real problem with America today isn’t free speech on the airwaves but weak, lukewarm, non-substantive politicians who can’t even own up to what they said or defend their position. In a political year — it’s better to say it never occurred and move on to the next photo opt. That is weak. Hillary at her best.
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Like Joseph Goebels, the Socialist Democrats are trying to control people’s thoughts and ideas. Its already part of the American public school system but some of our children are thinking for themselves and opposing this big government concept.
Posted by: Jimbo | June 22, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
It depends on what the definition of a conversation is!!!
Posted by: Danny Aves | June 22, 2007, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
I’m not getting into the fairness doctrine that the 1st poster talks about because his core argument is about free speech/expression. You have free speech without fear of the gov’t. coming to take you away. There can be repercussions from outside the gov’t. from your utilizing your right to free speech—ask Don Imus. Besides, this started from a comment that may or may not be true. If the conversation of Boxer and Clinton never took place, then that comment (spoken, printed or otherwise)would be a lie—and that is not protected by the 1st ammendment (slander, libel, etc…). What does lying have to do with the fairness doctrine? That doctrine had to do with topic, content and point of view—not whether the host was lying or not.
Posted by: scott | June 22, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Air America, the liberal talk radio network, has fewer than 70 stations after several years on the air. In his early years, Rush Limbaugh frequently ADDED that many stations in a single year. He’s around 600 stations now, the same as Sean Hannity and Laura Schlessinger.
The listeners know how to find what they like. If any Washingtonitwits (yes, it’s all one word) think a “Fairness Doctrine” is going to change the public’s taste in talk radio, then we’ll need to ramp up our contempt for them even more!
Posted by: JM in San Diego CA | June 22, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
someone’s lying…….certainly not Hillary Rotten
Posted by: head shot Ted | June 22, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Conservative talk radio flourishes largely because the far right audience thinks in extremely narrow terms. They comprise the cult that still perceives President’s Nixon and George H. W. Bush to have been liberals. Those who worship at the throne of druggies like Limbaugh abhor moderation in any terms.
Their safety zone is in the simplistic, hypnotic trance that they achieve on a daily basis, through these condescending and manipulative talk show hosts. They should all watch Andy Griffith’s nearly one-of-a-kind performance in the 1957 classic movie, “A Face In The Crowd”. I have little doubt that most of these talk show hosts secretly have the same level of contempt for their own audiences as they do for someone like Hillary Clinton. Like Griffith’s character in that movie, someday, maybe the full extent of the cynicism they regularly display towards their own audiences will be exposed, once and for all.
Posted by: DrewFromCharlestonSC | June 22, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Who hasn’t been shooting the breeze with a colleague and said something out of passion that they wouldn’t even dream of following through with? That is probably all that happened here. They dislike conservative talk radio because it is deceitful and dishonest. Over coffee, they had empty dreams of a better world. This shouldn’t even be a news story. Stick to legislation that has ACTUALLY been written or proposed.
Posted by: Josh | June 22, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
The so-called “Fairness Doctrine” will be pushed by liberals as part of the strategy to win the 2008 presidential election. The promoters of the doctrine are liberal organizations posing as “public interest” and “non-partisan,” such as the “Center for American Progress” and “Free Press.” The former is headed by former Clinton advisors and the latter needs no introduction, as one of the most well-known liberal organizations in the nation. They see the need to muzzle conservative talk radio before the ’08 election.
They saw how talk radio greatly impacted the last two presidential elections, and this move is just part of their overall strategy to take back power.
The so-called “non-partisan” Report dated June 1, 2007, called “The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio” is revealing in that its own data demonstrates that there is virtually no market for liberal talk radio outside of liberal enclaves such as San Francisco, CA, Madison, WI, Portland, OR, Seattle, WA, and Albuquerque, NM.
Coincidentally, Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer will be pushing the “Fairness Doctrine,” along with liberal Clintonistas John Podesta, and John Halpin, one of the authors of the subject Report. This clearly is part of the ’08 election strategy.
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
@Jebster
Conservatism = Nazism/Fascism = Satan
Goes both ways, Buddy, if you want to look at it this way. There’s extremism on both sides.
9/11 was an inside job. Restore our Constitution.
-Reagan Conservative
Posted by: Reagan Conservative | June 22, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Classic Clinton Response:
Stonewall and deny. I guess HRC did learn something from Bill.
Posted by: Shoreliner | June 22, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
this is just artificial Drudge Report contoversey
Posted by: david | June 22, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I love how Liberals are all for freedom of speech. When it works in their favor. If they want Communism they should just say so.
Its called free market.
Posted by: Mark | June 22, 2007, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
I’m trying not to image whats said behind the scenes on a daily basis.. we’d all probably be in shock.
Posted by: Tj | June 22, 2007, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
On another post to this thread, I engaged in the exact same tactics as Rush Limpbaugh, Dild O’Reilly, Bill Bennett and Matt Drudge.
Notice how the 28 percenter right wingers are doing their usual whining about it.
They can dish it it out, but they can’t take it.
You can’t play by their rules. For some reason you have to take the high road, while at the same time they are bashing your head in.
That study which proves right wingers were the maladjusted children no one liked speaks for itself.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Nice spin on the programming facts – “91 percent of the total weekday talk radio programming was conservative”. Did it ever occur to you how too few shows make up the 91%? Between Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and Savage, what percentage falls outside those four? They compose such a large percentage not because people hate them but listen to them anyway, but because they do reflect what America thinks. And your Trent Lott salvo is meaningless. People do know what was in the immigration bill and that is precisely why there is such opposition.
See you on your next “drive-by”….
Posted by: Jack | June 22, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
I believe they said it — and that Hillary is the worst option our country has as a candidate — but I do agree with “david” post — Drudge has an influence in what gets played as heavy online and even somewhat on TV news. This is much ado about nothing.
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Excuse me but the liberal media has tried and tried to make it on radio but have failed because of ratings…the liberal media has nothing to say except for name calling and attacks…people don’t want to hear this as ratings have shown! The government does not want well informed citizens which talk radio tries to do…you see a well informed constituency means that Congress can’t bulldoze bs through without being blasted for their actions! An illinformed constituency is what Congress wants!
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
This is the biggest bunch of crap…Trent Lott said talk radio was a “problem” since they don’t support the chimp in charge on his immigration amnesty. Saying Hillary & Pelosi are “complaining” is the lie they will spread to cover their attack on what has been their ally up until now. You right wing sheep need to wake up and stop being lead by the nose by these liars and manipulators..
Posted by: sandy | June 22, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
The founding fathers would be thrilled by today’s talk radio. Whether they agree with the majority of hosts and callers or not, they would recognize it for what it is – free speech unfiltered by goverment. It is the ultimate in democracy, with people listening to, and participating in, those conversations that most interest them. So far, most of the left leaning talk show hosts have not been able to establish audiences large enough to keep them on the air (unless you count those on NPR, but with no advertisers to worry about they really don’t have to be concerned about the number of listeners). Let the marketplace determine who we want to listen to. After all, it’s radio, and it is intended to entertain.
Posted by: LSLKahuna | June 22, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Wow! Dems have proved once and for all they are Stalinists!
If talk radio is to be banned than so must all print media, TV, Movies with a Liberal message and bias, etc.
In fact lets just ban Neolibs.
Posted by: Mort | June 22, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Democrats are angry that they havent been able to control this piece of the information pie. They have liberals on many news stations, many many newspapers and magazines and the only nut they havent cracked it talk radio.
They have tried and failed in the free market because they are boring. When Conservatives have thier talk shows on the radio, they also encorporate jokes and life in thier discussions. They also entertain. Most liberal talk shows, who call themselves progressive, which btw is nothing more than them trying to fool people into thinking they are the only ones who want change, are boring. Thier shows are very depressing when you listen to them. It’s all about bitching and complaining. Who wants to listen to complaining all day. They cant compete in the free marekt so they go and cry to big brother government and want them to fix it for them. This is the same old, same old. You dont want to compete in the job market, so you ask for welfare, you dont want small businesses growing so big that they drive the market, so you have government throw them out. this is very synonomous to kids crying to mom and dad to make brother or sister do what they want to do.
This is a capitalist country. Work harder and stop being so depressing and maybe you’ll make it. Don’t be pansy and cry about not getting your way and your control and quit asking the government to hold your f—— hand
!!!
Posted by: Joe D. | June 22, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The left just thinks anyone who thinks differently than they do are intellectual inferiors. This doesn’t come as a surprise, does it? The left – for the most part – base their arguments on feelings, not facts. Opposing viewpoint therefore is hateful.
Posted by: Kelja | June 22, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
there’s an easy way to fix this….Dems need to support radio more to their liking. This really is about sponsorship and making money. Air America went off the air because no one listened, which equals no spondors.
Posted by: EMonick | June 22, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Just that people are talking about trampling on freedom of speech is chilling. How long has the liberal media been leading the charge of lies. Then along comes new technology, cable, bloggers, etc. then the worm turns and dosn’t like it. Lets keep the Constitution of freedom of speech and press. Beware of hearing things. Someone in power is thinking of doing something that is unconstitutional.
Leonard L.
Posted by: Leonard M. | June 22, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
9 out of 10 media employees (TV)give to the democrats and Hillary and Boxer have the nerve to shut down Talk Radio. If Rush Limbaugh and Neil Boortz hosted a show with cans and strings. Hillary would want to pass a law against that as well.
Posted by: mikej jones | June 22, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Ed Schultz: ‘How Many Markets Do I Have To Beat Hannity In Before I Get 200 Or 300 Stations?’ «
Progressive radio host Ed Schultz appeared on MSNBC last night to discuss the new report by the Center for American Progress and Free Press, which revealed the conservative monopoly that currently exists over talk radio.
Schultz — the host of the most popular progressive radio show in the country — debunked the right-wing myth that conservatives dominate simply because they are winning in a “free market.” Schultz explained that the market is being controlled by a few ownership groups that are forcing conservative talk shows into local markets:
I beat Sean Hannity in Denver. I beat him in Seattle. I beat him in Portland. I beat in San Diego. How many markets do I have to beat Hannity in before I get 200 or 300 stations? It’s an ownership issue. … The fact is, it’s market opportunities and liberal talkers, progressive talkers are being held to a totally different standard than conservatives.
John Halpin — one of the principal authors of the radio report — noted that there is no “free market” under the current system. “There is little free speech or free choice in a market system that pushes out one-sided information 90 percent of the time on the radio,” he said. “Radio stations are licensed to operate in the public interest. Promoting one point of view over all others does not meet any reasonable public-interest standard.”
Transcript:
SCHULTZ: When you are talking about the spoken word, it influences a lot of people and it influences election in this country. There is no question. We are talking about market opportunities. Right now the liberal progressive format in this country — we are all fighting over the same 100 stations. Michael, I offer to you that ownership is an issue.
There are conservative broadcast companies in this country that do not broadcast one single second of liberal talk radio.
SMERCONISH: But Ed, I have to tell you something –
(CROSS TALK)
SMERCONISH: CBS would fire me in the morning and replace me with a communist if that communist would get them more revenue. It’s all about the scratch.
SCHULTZ: That’s not true. Michael, that is not true. I have got one of the top talk shows in Seattle, and I am only on one station in the country with Infinity. That’s not true. We are not being given the fair market opportunity.
SMERCONISH: I just don’t see it that way. I think it’s totally demand driven. And if were there a demand for whatever the program happened to be, believe me, they would put it on the air, because all they want to do is sell advertising and there is nothing wrong with that.
SCHULTZ: You know, Michael that’s almost insulting me. I beat Sean Hannity in Denver. I beat him in Seattle. I beat him in Portland. I beat in San Diego. How many markets do I have to beat Hannity in before I get 200 or 300 stations? It’s an ownership issue. Salem Radio, Infinity does one, ABC owns Hannity. It comes down to ownership. Actually, Clear Channel has been better than any of them.
The fact is, it’s market opportunities and liberal talkers, progressive talkers are being held to a totally different standard than conservatives.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
I am a non-partisan 32-year-old black man who has never voted in an election and I can honestly tell you why conservative radio works and the liberals’ attempt at radio recently hasn’t. It’s truly simple: Al Franken’s show was never interesting or funny. He can be hilarious — but his show was crap.I can’t stand liberals or republicans — BUT if someone put me on an island and forced me to have to listen to either Air America or Rush/Hannity — I’d choose the latter. It’s simply more informative and entertaining.
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
What the liberals can’t build through the private sector and free markets, they will build it through legislation. The only way people will listen to the left on the radio is if all conservative talk radio is replaced with liberal talk radio.
Posted by: Mordant Traditionalist | June 22, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
uh huh..it never happened….just like Bill said about Lewinsky…never happened..is a vast right wing conspiracy it is….uh huh…yeah conspiracy thats it
Posted by: Chico | June 22, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
This is not a liberal vs conservative argument, its a freedom argument. The American public is best served when all viewpoints are recognized and available. Let’s assume that talk radio is a propoganda hate-fest (of this suggestion, I don’t agree), is it against the law? Is this bad for the overall discourse? I would think it would good for liberals to have conservatives expose their “evil” in a public forum. Perhaps they fear the opposite and that the conservative message does resonate with a substantial portion of the American electorate. In addition, it a direct threat to the oligarchy by which many politicians strive to govern. The politicians work for us and this is a fact that some many of them would like to ignore or change.
For the small minority of Americans that aspouse socialist philospohies in America, shutting down talk radio is paramount. For the remaining 80% that enjoy the liberties that our coutry allows, this is a horrible and dangerous precedent. Once public radio is stiffled, then the internet (which is also public domain)will be next. I despise the Daily Kos but I will defend its right to exist regardless of its message. I would not seek equal bandwith so that a conservative blogger could offer a contary opinion.
At the very least AM radio would go back to primarily gardening shows and traffic updates. This is a horror for all of us :-)
Posted by: scott | June 22, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Like America would believe a word a CLINTON would say; we all still remember him lying to our face while wagging his finger and his wife Hillary going to the mat for him despite his infidelity only because SHE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT.
Posted by: mark | June 22, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
If they are going to fix Radio, bcause their are too many conservative talk shows, then TV needs to be fixed to add Conservative shows, because It’s all liberal. Also we will need to fix a bunch of Newspapers and Magazines as well. Cuts both ways. But as we all know the Democrats don’t want fair, they want it all their way.
Posted by: cadpipe | June 22, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
First off, I’m not taking sides in Inhofe vs. Clinton/Boxer, but I do want to ask several questions:
For those taking sides with Inhofe or Clinton/Boxer, what evidence do you have that either contention is factual? Why are any of you taking a side on this event/nonevent? Because one side has an “R” next to it and the other has a “D” next to it? Wake up, sheep!
When I read the ABC blog comments, I always find it sad/funny that they’re full of circling right-wing sharks, just waiting to strike out at the liberal media. Yet, if the media (i.e. ABC) is so liberal, what are those right-wingers doing on this ABC website in the first place? To those people, I’d like to ask:
Why not troll the Drudge/Fox News waters where there’s plenty of red meat for your gluttonous consumption?
And to all those who’ve played the free market card in this debate (i.e. that right-wing radio makes money and left-wing radio doesn’t), let me just say “rubbish!” The fact that an endeavor is profitable or unprofitable has no bearing on its contribution to public good.
Slavery was very profitable. That didn’t make it right.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Classic Hillary Clinton conversation! Lie, deny, obfuscate, confuse and in the end blame the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Governmental control of radio should terrify the Liberals, but since Hillary is in favor of it, the moonbats march in lock step.
Posted by: Jon Carry | June 22, 2007, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Senator Inhofe, you know Mrs. Clinton was lying, after all, you could see her lips moving…right?
Posted by: Jason B | June 22, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Liberalism=Socialism=Murder.
Socialism has killed 100 million people over the last 100 years. I am ashamed to call my self a Democrat
Posted by: exdem | June 22, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Let’see:
Named for Sir Edmond Hillary…LIE
Rose Billing Records were always on the table – she knew nothing about them….LIE
Bill “never had sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky”….LIE
Just to name a FEW lies from the Hillary Camp….Yup, I believe her!!!
And don’t even get me started on Ms. Boxer…….I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA!!!!
Posted by: SUSANNE | June 22, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Liberals have PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, the NYT, the Times, the Washington Post, etc. etc. etc. to spread their garbage.
Now we know 9 out of 10 so called reporters contribute to the Liberals and then withhold that information when they are reporting their version of the “news fit to be reported”..
Posted by: liz | June 22, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
“I’m going to totally “Vince Foster” Rush’s ass.” (Said with faux Southern drawl.)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, Democratic Candidate for President | June 22, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Funny, when filth, garbage and pornography are pumped into my home over the airwaves, the liberals say, “you can always turn it off.” When something I enjoy is pumped into my home out on the airwaves, the liberals say, “hey, let me make sure your not exposed to that.”
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Democrats are angry that they havent been able to control this piece of the information pie. They have liberals on many news stations, many many newspapers and magazines and the only nut they havent cracked it talk radio.
They have tried and failed in the free market because they are boring. When Conservatives have thier talk shows on the radio, they also encorporate jokes and life in thier discussions. They also entertain. Most liberal talk shows, who call themselves progressive, which btw is nothing more than them trying to fool people into thinking they are the only ones who want change, are boring. Thier shows are very depressing when you listen to them. It’s all about complaining. Who wants to listen to complaining all day. They cant compete in the free marekt so they go and cry to big brother government and want them to fix it for them. This is the same old, same old. You dont want to compete in the job market, so you ask for welfare, you dont want small businesses growing so big that they drive the market, so you have government throw them out. this is very synonomous to kids crying to mom and dad to make brother or sister do what they want to do.
This is a capitalist country. Work harder and stop being so depressing and maybe you’ll make it.
Posted by: Joe D. | June 22, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
In northern Indiana all we have is hate talk radio from the right – only one voice is being heard. Nothing like living in an area where you can’t voice or hear another side…. I just do what thousands of others in this area do – I turn off the radio and put in a cd while in my car…
Posted by: No Voice | June 22, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Well this is the last time I ever want to hear one of these wind bags use the phrase “Main stream Media is against us”.
Posted by: steve | June 22, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
I smell something fishy. Has Mr. Boxer recently become involved in the radio business? Let’s see how she can turn this legislation into a million dollar windfall for the hubby.
Posted by: Knucklehead | June 22, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Be careful what you wish for you just might get it. If the Fairness Doctrine is passed a lot of people in this country will scream their heads off until the MSM has to give the other side equal time. That won’t go over well with the left.
Posted by: gonr by now | June 22, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Hogfan, I’m sorry i didn’t catch what news organization you work for?
Posted by: S. Braden | June 22, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Those of you who think Inhofe is not truthful do not know the Senator.I would bet my life on anything Inhofe said as being truthful.
Posted by: Nigel | June 22, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Hogfan, Interesting. You say slavery was profitable, that didn’t make it right, and then go on to defend enslaving your fellow citizens by allowing the government to deny their right to alternative information sources, so they spew the government line. So if slavery isn’t right, why do you support it?
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
For those of us that get our news from television and radio I know I can at least select my radio news, left or right. As I don’t watch much television I have basic cable, Comcast removed Foxnews from this package and replaced it with MSNBC. Now instead of actual news and reporting I get the nightly Paris Hilton updates and the moron from Hardball describing the VT shooters backwards ballcap as a suicide bandana. If right corps own the radio, please explain one useless tv news channel?!
Posted by: JMC | June 22, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Imagine the ACLU defending “The Rush Limbaugh Show” in court.
Posted by: Sam Sarullo | June 22, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
I am not one to listen to Radio or listen to and watch TV. I have found both mediums to full of outright deception, and at best half truths. It is all meant to provide entertainment, generate profits, some of the programming is loosely based on fact. Cable is only good for connecting to the internet where one can read multiple reports and find the 3 words of truth in a 1,000 word report.
I don’t know about you. But since the airwaves are owned by the public. I’m still waiting for my deed for my portion of said airwaves. I also plan to will my portion of the public airwaves to my children. And have started a search to regain control of the public airwave deeds owned my grandfather and grandmother.
Posted by: Sam | June 22, 2007, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Nevermind, that’s the other California liberal. I get them all confused.
Posted by: Knucklehead | June 22, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
It must be awful being a Liberal. Seems that they have an over abundance of Hate towards Conservatives Talk Radio and Traditional Families. And yet with their overflowing cups of hate is’s still not enough. Liberals need to stop being intolerant to the tolerant.
Memo to Liberals: Stop Listening.
Now Please, Someone respond to this in a Loving Liberal Rant. Prove me right.
Posted by: Thomas | June 22, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Liberal persons will fight for every violent movie, filthy language, or other outrageous item as something that belong and those items should be allowed as free speech. Businesses who broadcast radio programs obviously can broadcast whatever makes them a profit and the talk hosts must produce a show that will earn them money. You DON’T have to lister–shut it off. But you cannot hide bad acts (Senators) because someone will find out and alert the people who have only one way to get balanced news: the radio (specifically “talk radio”) :)
Posted by: mj | June 22, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
If you really want to know just how absurd things have become, just watch C-SPAN on your computer during the day when congress is in session. Both sides point at each other and accuse each other of hypocrisy and lies. Well the real news is that both sides don’t give a darn about this country and it’s all about posturing for the next election. Can we say term limits!!
Posted by: Pete | June 22, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Sounds like the congress is afraid of what we think of them, and they ought to.
Posted by: john | June 22, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
You may notice that the liberals are going after the conservative media again. Why aren’t they doing something about Liberal television….let’s control them and get more conservative television on the air. The liberals want to silence Conservation views, as they expose the liberals as the traitors they are to this country.
Posted by: OLYMPIARICK | June 22, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
You may notice that the liberals are going after the conservative media again. Why aren’t they doing something about Liberal television….let’s control them and get more conservative television on the air. The liberals want to silence Conservation views, as they expose the liberals as the traitors they are to this country.
Posted by: OLYMPIARICK | June 22, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
1. HC is proven habitual liar.
2. HC denies conversation took place.
3. Therefore it did.
It’s that simple.
I can’t wait to see this witch get her butt whipped in Nov 2008 whoever the Republicans run (just hope it’s not JC because I’ll have to vote and gag at the same time).
Socialism is a proven failure.
God save the USA.
Posted by: Mark | June 22, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Now that dems have a little power they are ready to silence any opposition to their radical leftish ideas ala’ Castro.
To COWARDLY to appear on Fox, to wimpy to field the tough questions, and only feel comfortable being asked questions from their political donors/news reporters.
God help us all if these liberal radicals have their way with our glorious country.
Posted by: Mike H | June 22, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
For those taking sides with Inhofe or Clinton/Boxer, what evidence do you have that either contention is factual? Why are any of you taking a side on this event/nonevent? Because one side has an “R” next to it and the other has a “D” next to it? Wake up, sheep!
Posted by: repub | June 22, 2007, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Too bad Inhoffe didnt have on a Blue Gap dress to catch the evidence. Without DNA evidence, there is no way to get truth from a Clinton.
Posted by: Real American here legally | June 22, 2007, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
I am not one to listen to Radio or listen to and watch TV. I have found both mediums to full of outright deception, and at best half truths. It is all meant to provide entertainment, generate profits, some of the programming is loosely based on fact. Cable is only good for connecting to the internet where one can read multiple reports and find the 3 words of truth in a 1,000 word report.
I don’t know about you. But since the airwaves are owned by the public. I’m still waiting for my deed for my portion of said airwaves. I also plan to will my portion of the public airwaves to my children. And have started a search to regain control of the public airwave deeds owned my grandfather and grandmother
Posted by: Sam | June 22, 2007, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
“Slavery was very profitable. That didn’t make it right.”
There is a vast difference between slavery and freedom of expression.
And, BTW, it is very clear from your post which side you are on (D) . . .
Posted by: Sparky Mark | June 22, 2007, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Sure they didn’t say it. Nor did they know about the 10,000 FBI files stolen by Craig Livingstone. Cattle futures? What cattle futures? They know nothing, they say nothing, they hear nothing. Typical lefties. They are getting their butts kicked by Rush, and they don’t know how to stop him. QUIT LYING! Oh, if they did that no one would support them. DARN!
Posted by: Rick | June 22, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Trent Lott got it right when he stated the talk radio host don’t know what is in the bill ( IMMIGRATION/AMNESTY. Really, Trent, you negociated the bill behind closed doors, I have never seen anything in the newpapers that outlined what the bill was doing for/to American citizens. The congress and the President are trying to pull a fast one on the AMERICAN public, the LEGAL American public.
Posted by: Dr Joshua E Gates | June 22, 2007, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
What is it about Rush Limbaugh that makes liberals, and their allies in the media, incontinent?
And on a humourous note, as el Rushbo has said, the reason we have the second amendment is to make sure nobody takes away the first :-)
Posted by: Uno Who | June 22, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
If we’re going to start “balancing” ideological balance,agood place to start is NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, The NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times,all the universities and the entertainment industry. Maybe after we have made these into impartial institutions, we can discuss talk radio. Coming from the left, I’m not surprised. Their whole ideology is a pack of lies.
Posted by: right is right | June 22, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Listen to the vitriol spilling from mouths of these conservatives. I think your anger is misdirected. Look toward our president that has led your party astray.
Posted by: jeez | June 22, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Remember: Be careful what you say, words may come back to bite you.
The more lies libs tell, the less people will listen. As of now Congress has a great score of 14% Who doesn’t believe they are doing their jobs? All of us.
Posted by: Mary Cole | June 22, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Let’s see. Humm… Liberal talk show hosts with entertaining shows that the average American would listen to… If you’ve ever listened to Air America? That “piece of work” was not funny, not enligtening, and had no real debate. It was only thumb-sucking liberals talking amongst themselves without substantive discussion.
If any Air America guest was conservative, it was usually someone not of the calibre of a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Mike Reagan. Any debate was weak and not interesting. It put you to sleep. That’s why they aren’t on as many stations as conservative shows are.
Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes, Bill Press, Lionel? Give me a break. They are not funny, entertaining, or smart enough to maintain or grow an audience. If they had one-tenth the talent and verbal skills of Rush and Sean, redio stations would be falling all over themselves to get them on their stations.
Posted by: Vegas Vic | June 22, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Maybe Inhofe has an agenda? Never saw so much hot air being spent over something with so little proof that it ever happened. This proves without a doubt that they are Stalinists? How can you have discourse with statements like that – which btw is why conservative talk shows are better – they go for the things that sell – negativism, a boogeyman and the big tag line..
Posted by: john - philly | June 22, 2007, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Clinton is a liar period. She lied about wanting to continue inspections and negotiations at the UN regarding Iraq but Didn’t vote for Sen. Levin’s bill to do that. She lied about her involvement in the travel office firings. She lied about her stance on abortion. She also lied about not knowing about Monica when she in fact had her removed from the White House to the Pentagon. Liar, liar house on fire. We need to fire her. She doesn’t like talk radio because they are the only venue that crtiticizes her hypocracies. Shame on her and she’s supposed to be a liberal but doesn’t want free speech. Get rid of NPR they are biased and liberal and are supported by the Fedreal Gov’t to the tune of 25%. Bet she wouldn’t like that
Posted by: Nancianne | June 22, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Yeah – - It never happened. And I’m the Easter Bunny.
Posted by: ken | June 22, 2007, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
I find Ed Schultz arguement somewhat hollow.
1) Ed Schultz cherry picks 4 market places in which he beats Hannity (unsubstatiated) then he uses this a platform to argue he should get more market places. (I’ve listened to Schultz, he’s a talented guy)
If this is the case, then shouldn’t he have a beef with the competing stations. If I owned a radio station and had to place somebody head-to-head with Hannity wouldn’t I get somebody that has a track record of beating him. Money talks and BS walks. I’m finding it difficult to believe that an smart executive would make a non-sensical decision based on their view of Schultz’ politics.
2) Decsions are not just based on overall market share, its based on advertising dollars. Arbitron gives demographic breakdowns of listenership and based on that marketing potential, advertiser support is determined. Even though he may beat Hannity in select markets, it does not indicate revenue potential
3) The overall medium is driven by conservatives because of statistically substantiated driving listening preferences. It is proven that conservatives are much more likely to listen to talk radio than music and directly the opposite for liberals.
The only thing the fairnes doctrine will do is destroy the advertising potential of AM radio and squash debate. For some in this country that is the intent. However for many of us, this is a powerful show of force by the government against the people that supposedly employ them.
Don’t let politics cloud your judgement
Posted by: scott | June 22, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
They already control the schools, the academy, the major print media, the major television media, hollywood and are the exporters of most of the anti-American sentiment that the rest of the world feeds on. Why WOULDN’T they want to control radio?
Posted by: Jo | June 22, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Gee do YA think Hillary and Boxer would admit the conversation happened??? If the people were not listening to the Talk Shows, the adverstisers wouldnt be supporting them to the tune of millions of dollars a year. Air America crashed and burned for a reason. It stunk! As one sided as they may claim Talk Radio is the same argument can be made for the Press and MSM-TV. Just check the contributions of the press. 10-1 for the democratic party.
Posted by: Geoff | June 22, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
everybody needs to take a breath. who cares to what radio show we listen to. The one thing that escapes us is “if the talkshows are so wrong” why doesn’t anybody check the facts they throw out there. It seems that they may actualy be truthful. God as my witness we no longer can trust our leaders and they all should voted out next year. How stupid are we that we buy into all their election promises and they forget all about them. Quit trying to line everybody’s pockets and protect this country and be honest with us. We put you in office last election and we can and should remove you next year.
Posted by: john | June 22, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
And Rush isn’t a drug addict and liar? I guess I’m Santa Claus
Posted by: john - philly | June 22, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Libs say what we can and can’t say, take more of our hard earned money, want a bigger Washington for them to enjoy, wants us to ‘reason’ with dangerous terrorists, wants to change our health system so that people have to wait a long time for life-saving treatments, wants their families to travel with them on taxpayer dollars, wants to give ILLEGAL activity a protected status; and promise us gay marriage and the ability to kill the unborn in return… What a deal.
Posted by: buhk | June 22, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
It’s the market that moves the popularity of talk radio. No one is forced to listen…if one doesn’t like what’s being said, turn the dial or turn the radio off. Air America failed because it was uninteresting and staffed by “hosts” that would have found a home on Radio Moscow. For some reason, liberals refuse to see that they have as much a chance to succeed – or fail – as anyone else in radio or in any other endeavor. What’s so frustrating that liberal Democrats won’t admit is that they virtually control the traditional print media…this based on the recent revelations by MSNBC.
Posted by: Michael White | June 22, 2007, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Maybe all those LIBS should question why our tax money is going only to promote liberal shows on NPR and Public television. Where are the Conservatives???? When our money is used then and ONLY THEN should the government insist that both sides have equal time. WHERE IS MY SIDE ON THOSE STATIONS MISTER LIBERAL?
A Republican who is TOTALLY SICK of being condemned for my political and social views by “The Anything Goes Crowd”.
Posted by: Debbie | June 22, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Why would Senator Inhofe need “new glasses” for something he overheard?
Posted by: Colin | June 22, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
As much as I absolutely hate Rush and Bill, Hillary is one of the phoniest, I’ll say anything/do anything to get elected people I’ve ever seen. Can’t stand the woman….and I can completely see her saying these things. She’s lied so often that I don’t think she’s even consiously aware of doing it anymore.
Posted by: Jason | June 22, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
Liberals have no talent when it comes to radio. Did you hear Baldwin, and Franken….there with idiots in front of a mike. Libs are good on TV. Where deception is easily rendered, sex sells,(substance is soooo geekish) and looking good is more important than being right.
We wont even go into the glorifying of gangster rap, same-sex relationships, and alot of other garbage ala’ MTV.
Posted by: Mike | June 22, 2007, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
How can anyone believe a word Hillary says? Boxer from the family too. Talk radio gives the right and conservative side of the spectrum. With 9 -1 contributions by journalists given to dimocrats over Republicans this only equals the scales. Without talk radio, then Fox will be next. The left hates free speech because they know their agenda will never win unless the right is censored. If you don’t like it,TURN IT OFF.
Posted by: Don Taylor | June 22, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Who knows what politicians said or didn’t
say. They are all trained liars.
Posted by: BOB | June 22, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Yeah, that pesky First Amendment really sucks, doesn’t it?
Yeah, elect Hillary so she stifle freedom.
Hey, it’s working for Hugo, isn’t it?
Posted by: jdawg | June 22, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Liberals cannot compete in the arena of ideas, hence, they need to shut down their opposition through legislation. Maybe the Dems should find someone who can effectively compete with Limbaugh, Hannity, and Ingraham rather than scream how biased and unfair talk radio is. Has anyone listened to Chris Mathews or Anderson Cooper latley? Oh I forgot, they are unbiased journalists, not entertainers. Or how about Rosie O’Donnell? Unbiased? Hardly! Hey Hillary and Barbara, keep your mits off talk radio. Somebody has to keep you and your ilk in check!
Posted by: Jeff | June 22, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Liberal talk radio fails for one big reason.
Most talk radio is listened to in the car.
Most libs live in cities, thus they don’t own a car. They get to work by train or bus. You would think that people with such high IQ’s would have figured that one out
Posted by: Dave M | June 22, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
If I don’t like a radio show (except NPR), I can call the radio station and its sponsors to voice my displeasure. Enough calls like that, and advertisers may pull their sponsorship, resulting in the radio station having to come up with some new programming. For that matter, I can turn the dial on my radio to some pop music station if I don’t like what I’m hearing. If I don’t like the music on the pop music station, I can then call that station and its sponsors to voice my displeasure, and enough calls like that may result in the radio station having to change the type of music it plays. Or I guess I could just put a law into place that bans all pop music from the airwaves period, or that requires pop music stations to play equal amounts of rap or country music along with the pop music, and then user feedback wouldn’t be necessary at all because it’s the law. I prefer to find stations that play and/or say what I like to listen to, and promote those stations by giving business to their sponsors.
Posted by: Kevin | June 22, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
While party politics is always a game of spin, Karl Rove and the right and the conservative radios have spun this tendency to absurd levels; there is no political discourse in this country anymore only the “in your face” divisive politics of playing the right off the left to see who can mobilize there core supporters. (If you dispute this ask Rove this is the only thing he’s pretty up front about, if not downright proud of.) As a nation we need to learn to listen to each other to find the best solutions to problems regardless of whose political agenda is served. Please bring back the Fairness Doctrine. If nothing else, it will foster the political dialectics envisioned by our founders. If you anyone thinks that their side has all the answers and that spewing venom will make our democracy work, you have been fed too much bull to see that your eyeballs are brown. An admonition: he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
Posted by: Bob | June 22, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
No wonder 14% don’t have any faith in our legislators! Since when did “We the people” become “we the political elite?”
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
If the conversation proves to have happened, then you can bet we’re in for more lies from a Clinton.
Posted by: Kelly | June 22, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I am all for free speech but right wing talk radio is really awful. It is mean spirited propaganda. If the liberals control the media then the conservatives definitely control talk radio. I think this type of speech is harmful to the U.S. because it “fires up” the followers and angers the dissenters which has created a rift in our society. Also, I think it is dangerous that they have demonized the term “liberal” to the point that if anyone has a position they disagree with they can slap the liberal tag on them. At any rate, I think right wing radio is a detriment to our society.
Posted by: jmark64 | June 22, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
In fact the Democrat Party has become the Communist Party of America. It’s no wonder that they would like to stymie any speech that sheds light on them… The have Air America and PBS and the Schools but thats not enough.
Communist Russia does the same thing. Keep electing Democrats and this is what you will get.
Posted by: Frank Baron | June 22, 2007, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Legislative Fix needed to stifle market-driven free speech?
From ABCs Jake Tapper:
Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okl, claims he overheard Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barbara Boxer, D-Calf, chatting about how out of control talk radio had become.
They said weve got to do something about this,…
Posted by: protein wisdom | June 22, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
All you people on this board should begin to accept one thing.
PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON
There is a great liberal age in front of us. Wake up and be filled with joy.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Ha Ha!
Neo Cons talking about their Constitutional rights, Free Speach, and I even saw one ‘If you don’t like it change the channel’.
Amazing how it sounds when the shoe is on the other foot!!!
Your party started the war on the Constitution, we are just following your lead!
Posted by: AdLib | June 22, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
It’s always entertaining to hear the self-proclaimed “tolerant” Left whine about opposing viewpoints. Air America was their “answer” to conservative talk radio and it failed miserably.
Posted by: Kyle | June 22, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
All you people on this board should begin to accept one thing.
PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON
There is a great liberal age in front of us. Wake up and be filled with joy.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Yo Bob,
Yes you are right; he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.
But I would rather die on my feet a free man than live on my knees in submission to a master.
Posted by: Patriot | June 22, 2007, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
One thing that the so called “Liberals” can’t win is debating the issues…. they don’t have the guts to debate with conservative on the issues, but hiding behind judges is what they often do. They won’t admit to plan of some kind of legislation to shutdown the conservative radio talk shows because they know the radio listeners are well informed and opinionated of what’s happening around their lives daily. If we don’t stop the liberals, they’ll ruining this country, some day we will wake up and it’s becoming a socialist or a fascist country that many people in Europe of Asia have faced. “Never trust the Democrat Party… they only want out money and screwing up the middle class, they’re favored the criminals more than law abiding citizens. It’s time to stop them and throwing them out of office.
Tom
Posted by: Tom | June 22, 2007, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
People like Ed Schultz & Randi Rhodes are not all that bad to listen to. I enjoy a intelligent debate between the two parties. I consider myself to be a conservative Republican but I find myself at odds with the actions of the current administration. However, as long as liberal talk radio uses screeching maniacal clowns like Mike Malloy and others like him,it will not come close to equalling the listenership of the conservative side. It’s ridiculous that the Democrats should even consider a “fix” It goes against all concepts of free speach.
Posted by: Phil | June 22, 2007, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
It is way too late to shut down talk radio. It has exposed what a joke our political system is and we are not going back to the Mushroom method of government. If anything, this talk of getting rid of talk radio has exposed the real cancer in the Republican party. If they pass something it will only last two years. No one gets elected or reelected who supports this and I think there are enough Senators on both sides of the isle that understand this. We will not forget. What baffels me is that Free Speech has always been a Liberal standard. Maybe that is why they call themselves progressive.
Posted by: KenC | June 22, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Would anyone be suprised they had this conversation. Democrats have been complaining about talk radio for year, many of them in elected office, recall Bill Clinton, Sen Durbin, just to name a couple. So is it far fetched that Mrs Clinton and Sen Boxer would be having such a conversation? Not at all.
Posted by: IForgot | June 22, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
So Air America fails…because it is out of touch with the majority of Americans, and now the democrats want to shut down the opposition (meaning the majority of Americans) with bogus legislation. The left couldn’t succeed with their message, so now they’re going to force it on those who don’t agree with it. Yeah, that’s freedom.
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
According to the 26 percenters, “Libruls” own and rule the Hollywood media; own and rule the record industry; own and rule the print media; own and rule the television media; own and rule all other creative venues, but for some unforeseen reason they simply cannot cut it on talk radio. The “free” market simply doesn’t support “Libruls” on talk radio. As talented as “Libruls” are with all the other mediums, they aren’t good enough at talk radio.
Just look at the complete idiocy of these 26 percenters.
They’ll buy any dishonest argument you feed them.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Plausible Deniability.
Hillary’s denial is as funny as Obama promising to overhauling big gov’t on his first day in office !!
Posted by: Chris | June 22, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Remember folks…the libs have no concept of market forces…they want to force markets! conservative talk radio exists because people want to hear it.
Hey, Senators Boxer and Clinton! I got an idea! There are far too few polka format fm radio staions out there. Let’s legislate the airwaves to FORCE country, rock, classical stations to play polka!!!
Posted by: unixmansam | June 22, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
How much did Jake Tapper give to the Hillary campaign?
That question should be answered first on this thread. Then we can go from there
Posted by: sandro | June 22, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Salty, It looks like their is another corporate, how much can I line my pockets with age on the way to me. Re Ms. Clinton:
FROM 6/16- It also emerged on Friday that the Clintons had dissolved a blind trust worth somewhere between $5m and $25m in what appeared to be an attempt to shed stocks that might prove embarrassing to Ms Clinton during her presidential campaign. The trust included holdings in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, oil companies, defence contractors, pharmaceutical groups, and Wal-Mart, the giant retailer on whose board Ms Clinton once sat.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Yeah, let’s believe Crazy Inhofe; a man who denies global warming exists, believes the earth is 5000 years old and that Dinosaurs roamed with man.
Posted by: Joel | June 22, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Great. All we need is the government to take over ANOTHER aspect of our lives. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? And if you don’t like the content of the talk radio, CHANGE THE BLOODY CHANNEL!!!!!!! That’s what that dial is made for. Or you can just turn off the radio. It never ceases to amaze me how the government attacks public radio, but you can turn on the TV during the day and see people hopping from bed to bed, almost literally. CHANGE THE STATION!!!!!!
Posted by: Stephanie | June 22, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Conservatives listen to talk radio because we’re usually driving to and from WORK, whereas your typical liberal is most likely lounging on the couch watching Rosie on the View. Just a theory.
Posted by: Kyle | June 22, 2007, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
OxyCon,
The reason the liberal talk radio has had a problem is that most of the right wing radio listeners are over 55 and retired. Liberal on the other hand are working during the peak radio hours. Rush and “Your a great American” Hannity love to inflame their senior set. Liberal radio will survive and flourish because all of Rush’s audience will be meeting their maker soon.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Why would anyone request a statement on anything from Hillary’s office. There is a 100% chance the statement will be a total lie! What’s the point?!?
Posted by: Nathan | June 22, 2007, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Another President Clinton? Ah, the good old days: White House Travel Office scandal. Whitewater scandal. Vince Foster. Webb Hubbell. Janet Reno. Madeline Albright. Cattle Futures. Rose Law Firm records. “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.” Hillary Health Care. Secret health care refrorm committee. What the meaning of “is” is. Lying under oath in a federal sexual harrassment lawsuit. “Bimbo eruptions.” Juanita Brodderick. Former bouncer with FBI files on opponents. More Barbara Streisand. More Alec Baldwin. “Hollywood.” Lincoln bedroon payola. Coffee with Bill for cash. More Lanny Davis. More Alan Dershowitz. Marc Rich pardon. John Podesta. Erskine Bowles. Mandy Grunwald. Somalia.
Finally, last but not least, more and more and more and more Bill Clinton. Bill all day and Bill all night. Do we really want that again?
Posted by: Paul | June 22, 2007, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Yes Mrs. Clinton and Mrs. boxer I am 100% sure Senator Inhofe just made this up out of thin air. I am starting to think that Congress is just High School Student Council for rich elitist.
Posted by: Kit | June 22, 2007, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
I swear, this country’s going to the toilet. The hourglass society is pushing the politicos to the top and punishing not only the lower class, but also the middle and upper class.
Upon hearing about this little jab at all Americans from these goons, I have little doubt that if she becomes President we’ll be marching off the cliff, hammers and sickles in hand and being told “Work makes you free.”
Posted by: CBL | June 22, 2007, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
In the spirit of modern day liberalism, I propose the NBA be forced to have more goofy, uncoordinated white dudes to make a more level playing field.
Posted by: Pat | June 22, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
A lot of venom in here from those accusing others of being venomous.
Posted by: Web Designer | June 22, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Wouldn’t you know it…
The Liberals are the first ones to try to suppress free speech…
Posted by: One_American | June 22, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Hey, anyone have another $40,000,000 we use to infuse back into Air America? ?
They competed, the listeners weren’t there, they bankrupt. End of Story. Let the market determine it. If some left wing radio show was demanded I promise you, someone would put it on and make money off it. Problem is, about 12% of these left wingers think they make up 60% of the poulation, when in actuality they make up about 12%.
Posted by: Al Franken | June 22, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
The recent revelation regarding the campaign contributions of members of the dinosaur mainstream media has more than convinced most people listening that the MSM and liberals on the Hill are in deep collusion with each other.
I hope this story gets out all over the place.
Posted by: koz | June 22, 2007, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
For a group that thinks their opinions are in the majority, conservatives sure do play the martyr quite well. Everyone is after us and all the world is a liberal bastion.
What a bunch of 28 percenters, oh I’m sorry, make that 26 percenters.
Posted by: Thom | June 22, 2007, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Free speech is something that Nancy Pelosi would truly love to kill. If folks look back at Senate Bill 1 when she started her reign. She tried killing grassroots lobby groups. Her and Hillary are American’s greatest dangers. As far as who listens to talk radio – well Trent Lott and President Bush should realize that pressure by the American people informed by talk radio and the Internet kill that piece of political garabage.
Sad fact today folks is most of our political leaders are trying to sell this country out. Maybe its time we reviewed our options – impeachment, recall elections and demanding a roll back on what our leaders can do.
Posted by: Chuck Butler | June 22, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Well! How many times during hearings has the female Clinton factor not been able to recall a conversation or action that she has allegedly……
and now…..she is certin that she never had that conversation!
I believe Inhofe. Of course she had that conversation!
Posted by: Barbara | June 22, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Censorship by any other name. I find it hard to believe Inhofe was pulling that conversation out of his ass and making it up as he went along. The shoes fit.
All things considered, I would much rather trust free markets to determine who stays on the air and who doesn’t, as opposed to letting a group of liberal Leninists with twisted political agendas determine which voices must be silenced in the name of “fairness.” How is that any different from what Hugo Chavez is doing in Venezuela?
Rush, Hannity and O’Reilly would not be on the air if their ratings were tanking. Radio and TV stations across the country care only about the bottom line. No different in Hollywood. These talk show hosts would not be put on life support if they cost the affiliates millions to do so, no more than Hollywood studios would continue to back producers whose films consistently fail at the box office.
The only exception to that rule I can think of is Air America, which is the radio equivalent of box office poison.
People go to the movies and listen to talk radio to be entertained and perhaps even enlightened, not be demeanded and lectured to by one-sided political kommissars who sound more like broken records than intelligent talk show hosts. If it weren’t for organizations like Soros and the New York Boys’ and Girls’ Club, they’d already be dead air. Not that they aren’t now, judging by the ratings.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Of course liberals can not control talk radio. Other media types allow photos, video and, as in Hollywood, SPecial effects to dazzle. When one turns on the radio everything is distilled down to content. Hannity can’t oooo and aaaah you with effects, only with what he says.
The positions liberals tend to take need to be dressed up with something more than the truth for prople to stomach them.
Posted by: Derek | June 22, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
If Al Franken had Rush Limbaugh type ratings Hillary and Boxer wouldn’t think talk radio was out of control. I fear for this nation if that woman becomes prez.
Posted by: JJ | June 22, 2007, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
AH, YES, surely we are in the dark before the dawn of a great new liberal (er, Salty, I guess you didn’t get the memo: it’s “progressive” now) era. I predict this will be much like the prior great progressive Clinton era. Well, the country’s already pretty much gone to hell, so what does it matter?
I mean the first Clinton sold us out to China/WalMart Inc. and vacillated in foreign policy worse than Jimmy Carter on Thorazine. And let us not forget that innovative energy policy based primarily on “cheap gasoline”. And there was the great stock market runup that curiously ended right about the time his term ended. Hmm? And, oh yes, that sophisticated “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy on homosexuals in the military. As I recall that was his first order of business after his election. Hmm, maybe someone had some blackmail pix?
Gosh, there’s so much to look forward to, I feel just like a little kid on Christmas eve. As regards this particular story about what was or wasn’t overheard, you simply have to decide whether to trust a Clinton or somebody else. I’m going with pretty much anybody else. From what I hear, Inhofe is a pretty straight shooter.
Posted by: Reese Bobby | June 22, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
To Talk or Not to Talk.
Right, Left, Indpendent, Gay, Straight, Black, Brown, or White. The 1st Amendment protects our right of free speech. The citizens are so frustrated with Washington right now that if Congress selectively goes after the media, there will be hell to pay.
Posted by: Dennis Lisonbee | June 22, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
You should be concerned, no matter what your beliefs are, because I’m guessing no matter how you vote, you still believe in your own personal freedoms. Bottom line is, 86% disapprove of Congress, but watch all the incumbents waltz back into office in ’08. We are giving away the store. Everybody knows that term limits and the FairTax are the solution, but you know our “representatives” will *never* vote themselves out of office, nor will they put a cap on their pork-barrel spending. We’ve really painted ourselves into a corner on this one, people.
Posted by: R. W. Emerson | June 22, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
To my fellow Conservatives,
I wouldn’t worry about this possible bill doing anything. Bush would veto it and the Congress and the Senate would not be able to override it. you would have moderate Democrats who beleive in the fre market cross over to protect free speech and keep the Stalinist Democrats from turning our country into Cuba where the government decides what’s best for the public to hear about.
Posted by: Joe D. | June 22, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Diffuse,
And Bush, Reagan, Newt, and all the other republicans do not have any investments that might not look up and up. Come on. Rudy dropped out of the 9/11 commission to make money speaking about 9/11.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Unbelievable? Not with Hillary and company. It’s called FREE SPEECH, Hillary. Liberals love FREE SPEECH as long as it is there own free speech otherwise they hate it.
America, wake up. Republicans and Democrats are ruining our nation with their bickering and stupidity. Clinton and Boxer are just too more examples of stupidity in Washington DC. Vote ‘em both out of office.
Posted by: jw | June 22, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
It’s funny how the Democrats try to compare Republicans to when it’s the Democrats who are trying to take away our firearms and now restrict what we can hear on the radio.
Posted by: Steve | June 22, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Derek, Sean Hamnity doesn’t “oooo and aaah” anyone.
All he does is paint a target on some Democrat’s back and tell his gullible “26 percenter” audience who to hate for that day. Just like all the other right wing hate speech radio “personalities”.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
In the 1770s there was Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine writing the phamplets that enflamed our revolution. Today we have the electronic age of wireless media and the names are Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Al Franken. And one of those original documents addressed this clearly, we refer to it today as freedom of speech. It sounds like we are marching to a new revolution – and I for one would love to see every man and woman in political office thrown out!
Let the people speak!
Posted by: Patricia Andrews | June 22, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Government schools, government radio stations. Glad my kids are grown.
Posted by: Jim | June 22, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Thank god for our talk radio people, how else would we know what next the government is trying to shove down our throats, like this idiot immigration bill. I know of no one who is for it, yet, it just won’t go away! Leave our free speech alone..
Posted by: Patrick | June 22, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
To tie this into another recent story on the media and bias:
Of TV news people 9 Dems to 1 Rep. give to candidates of the same party. So 91% of talk radio is conservative. Seems fair enough.
Posted by: Linda | June 22, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Only yapping idiots belong to a political party. It’s a thing of the past. More and more are independent. They are the true thinkers.
Posted by: maggie | June 22, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
One of the reasons conservative radio is succesful is that neocons need someone to tell them how and what to think. They don’t call them “ditto heads” for nothing.
Most liberals can think for themselves. Neocons never having rebeled from authority have no ability for independant thought. Never learned because their parents wouldn’t let them.
Independant voter and moderate in NE PA
Posted by: billk | June 22, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Regarding Sen. Lott’s comments: He sure was back peddling on Hannity’s radio show yesterday. He stated he was against taking any sort of legislative “fix” to talk radio. Thank God for talk show hosts that hold these politician’s feet to the fire.
Posted by: RMS | June 22, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
The politics feel they must “tinker” with the system … and when they do, invariably they muck it up! Methinks it a good idea to have a literacy test for political candidates. Featured would be questions on the U.S. Constitution and Free Enterprise Economics. Mainstream America GETS IT … most politicians don’t!
Posted by: Rod Miller | June 22, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Remember what Bill Clinton said on the tape from Jennifer Flowers. If you say nothing happened and I say nothing happened, then no one will know.
Rennee
Posted by: Rennee | June 22, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Let’s all show that we are not happy with the government and not pay taxes. I did stop paying my taxes a couple of years ago. I am still out and about. Lets send a message to Washington DC that the public will not take there crap anymore. Let’s vote every person out of office this next election that we can and continue to do that until we find the people that can do the job right. To the IRS agent reading this, if you want your tax money come and find me. But I think you will have to spend a lot more tax money to come find me and put me in jail than you would get in back taxes I owe. Plus you will have to spend more tax money to feed me and house me if you put me in jail. To the people that think they will make me work to pay it off. Well I will quit my job and then not have any income. Then go on the food stamps and then become more of a tax burden. Let’s say they put me in jail and try to make me work. I just will not lift a finger to do want they want me to do. I refuse to pay a government that does not work for the public any more. It’s like paying a teenager to cut your lawn before he cuts it. Then you find out that he just took off without doing anything. We are paying taxes for nothing in return. I say screw this government. We need to rise up and take back these United States away from these selfish, un-honest, money grubbing, anal, self righteous politicians that only line there own pockets with our hard earned money.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Tell Boxer and Clinton that Chavez has got a media control program that is working well for him.
Posted by: Dr | June 22, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Lott, Boxer, and Clinton are all liars. I believe the conversation did take place and that Lott would love to do something about talk radio. Never trust or believe a politician regardless of their party. If they can’t prove it, they are lying.
Posted by: Richard Williams | June 22, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Your ancestors were immigrants.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Amen Bill. Its freedom of speech! Liberals vocally attack conservatives and conservatives vocally attack liberals.
I really don’t mind. When I hear liberals complaining about conservatives sure, it strikes a nerve but then I think “Well, we do the same to them.”
ITS OK!!
Posted by: TEXAN | June 22, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Ah, leave it to the Democrats to try to limit what we can say and listen to. I guess that ‘pro-choice’ platform is limited. They’ve failed at drawing an audience to their blather (much less make any money doing it). Instead of sitting back and analyizing why they and their message don’t resonate, they try to limit successful people. Ah, Lenin would be proud of them.
Posted by: Matt | June 22, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
I’m a republican and total fiscal conservative; and I have very little respect for Inhofe. The guy is against evolution, against modern science, and obviously suffers from paranoia. As a mater of fact, he is not even real conservative; he has more than doubled the government spending in Oklahoma! Besides, he supported restrictions on our personal freedoms in the aftermath of 9/11.
Hillary will not get my vote, but I’m not naive enough to share Inhofe’s paranoia and have no doubt that Hillary respects 1st amendment more than Senator Inhofe.
McMahon
Posted by: McMahon | June 22, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
I love it when Matt Drudge links to blogs like these.
Clearly his readers are angry people.
Posted by: JZ | June 22, 2007, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
McMahon,
Clinton is more of a fiscal conservative than anyone in the current administration.
Posted by: Salty | June 22, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
i think george bush should resign.
meanwhile bush should resign or be impeached.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
The hypocrisy of calling this the ‘Fairness’ Doctrine is simply too much.
After we abridge free political speech on the radio which books should we burn first?
Ayn Rand? Dinesh D’Souza?
Oh I know!! Bernard Goldberg’s Bias and Arrogance detailing the clear left wing slant of the mainstream media.
2+2=5
Posted by: Mikey | June 22, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Probably why the conversation sounds so plausable is because of the pattern of liberal behavior.
You can do and say virtually anything as long as its not critical of their positions!
The Left is no longer just Left anymore
they’re deranged.
Posted by: Ken from Pennsylvania | June 22, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Diffuse,
And Bush, Reagan, Newt, and all the other republicans do not have any investments that might not look up and up. Come on. Rudy dropped out of the 9/11 commission to make money speaking about 9/11.
Diffuse, this is not about which government parties or officals are corrupt. Judging by recent polls, I think we can ALL agree on that. For example, what is William Jefferson still doing in office? He was caught cold with bribe money in his freezer and is under 95 indictments. The wolves look out for each other, not us.
The point here is the First Amendment. Americans of ALL stripes and political persuasions can say whatever the hell they want, write their books and publish their newspapers. It is the general public which determines financial success or failure in these endeavors.
Considering how badly our government is performing on any number of levels, I would be the last to trust Congressmen, Senators or even the President with the power to determine who stays on the air, who goes, and what political viewpoints are acceptable or not. That’s not fairness, that’s dictatorship.
As far as I can tell from the comments by Hillary, Boxer and even Trent Lott, it would seem the American people are considered more of an impediment to their political goals that as constituents. This is the outlook of a dictator, not of elected representatives. Speaks volumes.
Too many Americans have died since the founding of this country to just hand over the First Amendment to a bunch of politically motived hacks, just as I wouldn’t hand over the power of politicians to appoint our Congressional representatives instead of electing them, because they know what’s good for us better than we ourselves do.
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.”
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Let’s all show that we are not happy with the government and not pay taxes. I did stop paying my taxes a couple of years ago. I am still out and about. Lets send a message to Washington DC that the public will not take there crap anymore. Let’s vote every person out of office this next election that we can and continue to do that until we find the people that can do the job right. To the IRS agent reading this, if you want your tax money come and find me. But I think you will have to spend a lot more tax money to come find me and put me in jail than you would get in back taxes I owe. Plus you will have to spend more tax money to feed me and house me if you put me in jail. To the people that think they will make me work to pay it off. Well I will quit my job and then not have any income. Then go on the food stamps and then become more of a tax burden. Let’s say they put me in jail and try to make me work. I just will not lift a finger to do want they want me to do. I refuse to pay a government that does not work for the public any more. It’s like paying a teenager to cut your lawn before he cuts it. Then you find out that he just took off without doing anything. We are paying taxes for nothing in return. I say screw this government. We need to rise up and take back these United States away from these selfish, un-honest, money grubbing, anal, self righteous politicians that only line there own pockets with our hard earned money.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
This is really a control issue. The Senators, both right and left are afraid of losing control. No control, no money from the powers-to-be. No new world order.
This country is so messed up, that self-thinkers are no longer buying the crap of either party.
We don’t need politicians, we need leaders. It time for new ideas built around old values.
Bring back Common Sense and The Ten Commandments. Its time for political revolution. like…Boston Tea Party Xtreme.
Posted by: Wiley | June 22, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Diffuse:
You are diffusing the truth. You claim that I…
“defend enslaving [my] fellow citizens by allowing the government to deny their right to alternative information sources, so they spew the government line.”
I defy you to find where I said anything of the sort. I did not advocate the government’s censorship of any outlet. Period. Saying otherwise is an outright lie.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Actually, I enjoy talk radio … because it reflects my viewpoint that I do not get via newspaper or radio!
And I am
1) female
2) 25 years old
3) Hispanic
Supporting market-driven free speech,
SA
Posted by: SA | June 22, 2007, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
uh, ever heard of free speech, hillary? she just wants the libs to be in control of everything. if someone opposes her, she wants to get rid of them… sounds kinda like communism to me.
Posted by: JT | June 22, 2007, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Really. Who is more believable, Boxer and Clinton or Inhofe? That’s not even a fair fight. Clinton probably had a focus group study performed to tell her to deny the conversation.
Posted by: The General | June 22, 2007, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I for one am certainly glad that Barb & Hill stand behind talk radio as they should. The did swear to uphold the constitution & bill of rights at their respective inaugurations into office. Thanks to Natalie Ravitz and Philippe Reines for clarifying Barb & Hills misspoke fau paux and telling us what their true positions are on these subjects. Please remember as press secretarys it is your duty to tell you congressmen & women what their true thoughts are.
Posted by: Brian | June 22, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
S. Braden:
I work for Fox News. Come on over. You’ll love the view from here.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
The blogger above, McMahon… is not a conservative…. quit acting like one..
Posted by: r | June 22, 2007, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Question for the Repub 26 percenters:
Who is hiring the illegal immigrants?
The evil “Liberals”?
I don’t think so.
Better take a good look at the political party you belong to and corporations you bow down to.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Spoken like a true, open-mouthed/minded liberal.
Posted by: Mark | June 22, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Oxycon…that is because in these other formats stuff like computer graphics, nifty little blinking lights, and other forms of wow can be employed to entertain the audience..whereas in talk radio it boils down to facts and how they are presented.
Posted by: jab | June 22, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I was taught manners and how to think for myself. I am happy and successful, and I love talk radio. I can listen and make my own decision.
Posted by: ML | June 22, 2007, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
JohnnyT- We are in complete agreement. Read my earlier posts. My point is that, although Ms. Clinton has no problem silencing her opposition, she also has no problem profiting from an investment in FOX news.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Fairness Doctrine
This is the way elite people Think
There paradyne is the only thinking that matters the rest is just noise of
the non-elite people.
I will bet when the first amendment was proposed that some elite person could not believe that we would let the average people speak what they think after all they might not have the same education, inteligence and breeding
Does anyone really think that the 536 people in washington
435 in congress
100 in the senate
1 president
only have the right ideas much less the level of inteligence or wisdom to make all the choices for the other 300+ Million of us?
Freedom of Speach make their life more difficult.
“POOR!! POOR!!.. PEOPLE IN POWER”
I only hope that someday when you are out of power and want your freedom back
You will understand that freedom is more important than any single persons thoughts “right or wrong” over the long run
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Democrats have been talking quietly about censoring talk radio for two years now, it was part of what “energized” them in the most recent election cycle. Purely and simply they want to find ways to censor the right of Americans–in this case talk radio hosts and their listeners–who do not agree with them. If they succeed in doing so I am calling for nothing less than an all-out Civil War to either [a] take back this nation or [b] split it into two nations–the Coastal Democratic Union and Central Federal Republic–with laws reflecting the two widely-differing views of how people should live and govern that are tearing America apart today.
Posted by: Rex Range | June 22, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
*** I didn’t say radio twice, I said television or the newspaper. Who edited my comment?
SA
Posted by: SA | June 22, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
It seems to me that the vast majority of the media has a liberal bias — I think if we added up the papers and news channels it wouldn’t even be close. Don’t get me wrong — I’m a moderate — but whatever happened to “I may not agree with what you say but I support to the death your right to say it?” Guess with Hillary she’ll support it as long as she agrees with it.
Posted by: Beth | June 22, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Gee, I guess we will have to take Hillary’s word for it, then. Because we all know a Clinton would not lie, nor would a Clinton promote anything unconstitutional — yeah, that’s really a far-fetched concept. Inhofe’s assertions must all be part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
As for Boxer, why, she’s as trustworthy as they come. She’s as American as apple-pie. She would never even *think* of tromping on the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: Biff Ulysses | June 22, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
“Who is hiring the illegal immigrants?”
Hey OxyCon, have you looked at the demographics for your big city union shops lately? Look at recent news stories about immigration raids and what you find are the big companies that by and large advance the liberal agenda in this country. When was the last immigration raid on a talk radio station?
Get your facts straight.
Posted by: Mark | June 22, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
chester lott is a RINO.
he only changed from (D) to (R) so he could get elected.
he is a dishonest man.
he should be impeached.
along with boxer and rodham.
AND BUSH. the president of mexico.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Let’s all show that we are not happy with the government and not pay taxes. I did stop paying my taxes a couple of years ago. I am still out and about. Lets send a message to Washington DC that the public will not take there crap anymore. Let’s vote every person out of office this next election that we can and continue to do that until we find the people that can do the job right. To the IRS agent reading this, if you want your tax money come and find me. But I think you will have to spend a lot more tax money to come find me and put me in jail than you would get in back taxes I owe. Plus you will have to spend more tax money to feed me and house me if you put me in jail. To the people that think they will make me work to pay it off. Well I will quit my job and then not have any income. Then go on the food stamps and then become more of a tax burden. Let’s say they put me in jail and try to make me work. I just will not lift a finger to do want they want me to do. I refuse to pay a government that does not work for the public any more. It’s like paying a teenager to cut your lawn before he cuts it. Then you find out that he just took off without doing anything. We are paying taxes for nothing in return. I say screw this government. We need to rise up and take back these United States away from these selfish, un-honest, money grubbing, anal, self righteous politicians that only line there own pockets with our hard earned money.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Some lefty up there said: “The urban legend that the TV media is “owned” by the “libs”, is encouraged to give the impression that these few entities do not own all the airwaves. What “libs” where? Who are these “libs”?
He must not have seen the story about how the media in this country break 9 to 1 in favor of liberals in political contributions.
Posted by: Banjo | June 22, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Hey citizens, let us try not to take sides and buy in to this “he said/she said” nonsense fiasco (do any senators, Republican or Democrat, really hold ANY credibility as truth tellers these days? Why does anybody reasonably think that any of these politicians are perpetuating these congressional conflicts for the benefit of the people? THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO STIR UP MORE PARTISAN POLITICS TO BITTERLY DIVIDE THE ELECTORATE!!!), but rather start a sane, non-partisan and open discussion about the state of talk-radio today and the politicos who want to control the flow of information.
I think it’s rather childish and foolish to debate which politician is more trustworthy. Based on what? Their political affiliation (or rather, your political leanings)? Pff please, that is totally missing the point of the issue. Conservatives and liberals alike want to control what is said and debated over talk radio and the rest of the news media. It’s how they control the issues, divide the voting electorate against each other (rather than against those holding power) and, in the end, get the votes they crave so much for either themselves or their party.
I don’t trust either Inhofe or Clinton/ Boxer and neither should you if you can look beyond your own political partisanship and see clearly that none of these politicians are exposing or denying the validity of Inhofe’s claim for the benefit of aiding the public.
Are we a nation of 6 year olds?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Mr. Pickles | June 22, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Some lefty up there said: “The urban legend that the TV media is “owned” by the “libs”, is encouraged to give the impression that these few entities do not own all the airwaves. What “libs” where? Who are these “libs”?
He must not have seen the story about how the media in this country break 9 to 1 in favor of liberals in political contributions.
Posted by: Banjo | June 22, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
I think we need to start another civil war to solve this problem:
Conservatives vs. Liberals
Sounds like a plan to me!
…I’m kidding.
Posted by: TEXAN | June 22, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
The biggest issue is that the far left and far right run america because they are the most angry. Think about it, do content people really fork out money for change? That money buys politicians and the 75% majority in the middle get screwed.
I like the balance between a liberal press and conservative shock jocks. But my favorite place to get unbiased news – my local news station..hmmm.
Just some thoughts…
Anyone know when the middle will win? Do we need Forbes and Arnold?
Posted by: BD | June 22, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Hillary and Barbara are just following in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez. If leftists can shut down free speach and opposing points of view in Venezuela then why can’t they do it in America too? Gee, I wonder where Jimmy Carter stands on this question?
Posted by: Bruce P | June 22, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
look out BIG media.
newspapers are delivered on public roads.
the taxpayers own those roads.
newspaper editors be AWARE you will be subject to the fairness doctrine.
you never know what might happen.
reality might be come your daily nightmare.
how are you going to deliver those newspapers without using the roads?
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Here here, Mr. Pickles!
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Just look at the disaster that Boxer’s California is…we sure as hell don’t need this communist making poloicy!!!
Posted by: bob | June 22, 2007, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine and you wont have the sort of hateful rhetoric and hot emotional ranting that passes for discourse on talk radio. There has always been an audience of uneducated xenophobes who lurk in the tribal underbelly of advanced civilization. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine I say!
Posted by: david | June 22, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Hogfan, You object to people who don’t share your and ABC’s political views commenting on their web page, inferring we have our own avenues for speaking out. It’s all about free speech.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Now all we need to do is get NANCY P.
in the picture and they could make up the 3 Scamigos
Posted by: Charles Murdock | June 22, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Yes, Mr. Pickles, common sense agrees with you.
Posted by: jabbadu | June 22, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
This is just the opening salvo of the current “progressive” agenda. We Conservatives can expect more of this and worse if the Democrats acquire a political majority.
The Bush administration may have broke faith with true conservatism, but if we turn our backs on the Republican party, we risk making the Perfect the enemy of the Good, and give those who truly hate this country a perfect opportunity to destroy it further.
Air America was free to spread lies and Stalinist propaganda for years, and when they failed in the marketplace of ideas, a new approach was needed. The report by “Center for American Progress and Free Press” (how Orwellian) lays the groundwork for the “legislative fix” that Senators Clinton and Boxer quickly embraced. Their lock-step endorsement of this report is the next step in the “progressive” assault on the values that built our nation.
I am pleased with the uproar that this study generated. Wake up and smell the coffee America! The godless barbarian elitists are on the attack!
Posted by: Richard in Seattle | June 22, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I bet if Sens. Clinton and Boxer weren’t constrained by the annoying requirement of being re elected they would love to fix the entire Bill of Rights. After all, who is Jefferson compared to two forward thinking and enlightened women who are so generous with other peoples’ money? ;)
Posted by: Dave the Knave | June 22, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Let’s all show that we are not happy with the government and not pay taxes. I did stop paying my taxes a couple of years ago. I am still out and about. Lets send a message to Washington DC that the public will not take there crap anymore. Let’s vote every person out of office this next election that we can and continue to do that until we find the people that can do the job right. To the IRS agent reading this, if you want your tax money come and find me. But I think you will have to spend a lot more tax money to come find me and put me in jail than you would get in back taxes I owe. Plus you will have to spend more tax money to feed me and house me if you put me in jail. To the people that think they will make me work to pay it off. Well I will quit my job and then not have any income. Then go on the food stamps and then become more of a tax burden. Let’s say they put me in jail and try to make me work. I just will not lift a finger to do want they want me to do. I refuse to pay a government that does not work for the public any more. It’s like paying a teenager to cut your lawn before he cuts it. Then you find out that he just took off without doing anything. We are paying taxes for nothing in return. I say screw this government. We need to rise up and take back these United States away from these selfish, un-honest, money grubbing, anal, self righteous politicians that only line there own pockets with our hard earned money.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
On just what basis does the public own the airwaves?
Is there a purchase contract somewhere that I just haven’t seen yet?
Just when did the public acquire ownership of the airwaves?
Did the public own the airwaves when there were no broadcast signals traveling at the speed of light from antennas to receivers?
Or did that public ownership suddenly materialize when Marconi sent his first signal over the distance of about 14 feet?
Maybe public ownership didn’t happen until the KDKA broadcast some presidential election results in Pittsburgh on that night about 85 years ago.
But, at whatever moment in time we’re talking about, what even took place that suddenly granted ownership of all broadcast frequencies to the public?
Did the public invest huge sums of money to develop these frequencies, or was this done by private entrepreneurs?
Did the government go out and purchase or trade something for these frequencies as it did with the Louisiana purchase or Alaska?
Just what happened? Where are the ownership papers?
Where’s the evidence that the public even had something to do with the very creation of these broadcast frequencies?
The answer is that there is no evidence of ownership. None.
The public “owns the airwaves” only because the politicians in the early part of the last century said so.
And that’s it.
Posted by: Jazman | June 22, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
The politicos feel they must “tinker” with the system … and when they do, invariably they muck it up! Methinks it a good idea to have a literacy test for political candidates. Featured would be questions on the U.S. Constitution and Free Enterprise Economics. Mainstream America GETS IT … most politicians don’t!
Posted by: Rod Miller | June 22, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Welcome to 1930′s Germany.
Washington elite doesn’t want our input.
Posted by: longlee | June 22, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
David, you say “There has always been an audience of uneducated xenophobes who lurk in the tribal underbelly of advanced civilization.” I agree with you, and most of them can be found getting their information from the propogandists employed by the Democrat Misinformation Media Machine, not talk radio listeners.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
The Four Freedoms
The first is freedom of speech and expression… everywhere in the world.
The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way… everywhere in the world.
The third is freedom from want… which, translated into world terms, means economic understandings which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants… everywhere in the world.
The fourth is freedom from fear… which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of aggression against any neighbor… anywhere in the world.
TO ABC CENSORS … RE-READ NUMBER ONE!
Posted by: Rod Miller | June 22, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Go get em’ Hillary! Go get em Boxer!
Posted by: Joe Stalin | June 22, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Stand up
Let’s all show that we are not happy with the government and not pay taxes. I did stop paying my taxes a couple of years ago. I am still out and about. Lets send a message to Washington DC that the public will not take there crap anymore. Let’s vote every person out of office this next election that we can and continue to do that until we find the people that can do the job right. To the IRS agent reading this, if you want your tax money come and find me. But I think you will have to spend a lot more tax money to come find me and put me in jail than you would get in back taxes I owe. Plus you will have to spend more tax money to feed me and house me if you put me in jail. To the people that think they will make me work to pay it off. Well I will quit my job and then not have any income. Then go on the food stamps and then become more of a tax burden. Let’s say they put me in jail and try to make me work. I just will not lift a finger to do what they want me to do. I refuse to pay a government that does not work for the public any more. It’s like paying a teenager to cut your lawn before he cuts it. Then you find out that he just took off without doing anything. We are paying taxes for nothing in return. I say screw this government. We need to rise up and take back these United States away from these selfish, un-honest, money grubbing, anal, self righteous politicians that only line there own pockets with our hard earned money.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
One of the reasons conservative radio is succesful is that neocons need someone to tell them how and what to think. They don’t call them “ditto heads” for nothing.
Most liberals can think for themselves. Neocons never having rebeled from authority have no ability for independant thought. Never learned because their parents wouldn’t let them.
Independant voter and moderate in NE PA
So what you’re saying is, since liberals know how to think, you’re just the poeple to tell the rest of us how to think because liberals know best?
That you are the masters of independent thought, and need to teach others the same? Have you any idea how contradictory and ironic that statement is?
As for Neocons rebelling against authority, you haven’t been paying attention to the immigration debate. How do you explain the disconnect when Neocons like Trent Lott say that talk radio in America is the problem?
Your whole attitude is childish and uninformed. Demeaning the intelligence and character of those you disagree with says a whole hell of a lot more about you than it does anyone else.
BTW how many independent liberal thinkers are there vis-a-vis Global Warming? How many reasonable opposing scientific viewpoints on this subject
are hailed by liberals and not met with ridicule, spite and ostracism?
I rest my case.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
It makes sense to me that it did happen the way Sen. Inhofe says. After all, both Clinton and Boxer are legislators, so they view legislation as the first means to solve a “problem.” It’s kind of like the saying that a surgeons’s first instinct in solving a medical problem is to cut.
But when they realized how un-American it sounded, both backtracked at the speed of light.
That’s one characteristic of the Democrat party – more legislation, more laws…and less freedom.
Posted by: Richard | June 22, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Bill is right, the left and the Hillary campaign are going to use the “Fairness Doctrine” to muzzle talk radio to affect the ’08 election. Can anyone deny that the sponsors of the talk radio study are ALL liberals? This issue of fairness is not the same as free market business competition, which is properly regulated by the anti-trust laws. It is purely an issue of speech and expression, which cannot be regulated under the Constitution. Interestingly, liberals couch their arguments for the Fairness Doctrine in language similar to anti-trust language, but the issues are totally different. Anti trust prevents unfair competition of goods and services, and the free market of talk radio promotes the free and open discussion of “ideas” and opinion – which is protection under the Constitution.
Liberals have exactly the same opportunies as conservative to compete in the marketplace of ideas. They just don’t have any ideas. All you hear on liberal radio is whining and crying. No one wants to listen to it. There is no market for it, so big money liberals have to come in and “save” failing radio stations like Air America. On other words, they have to artificially “manufacture” a market for their radio boring hosts. The Fairness Doctrine will actually “impose” this unwanted “product” (i.e., liberal radio) on the public – whether the public wants it or not. Radio station owners will simply have to take a loss because there will be no sponsors to pay for the air time. That is socialism, pure and simple.
Posted by: George | June 22, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The Right never says that we should regulate the print media, or TV for political content. It is only the Left that demands total domination. The Left are the true TOTALITARIANS. Freedom of speech is more important than the Left’s economic programs.
Posted by: Prof. Watkins | June 22, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
I wouldnt trust either of these 2 women. Both have been known to lie in the past to better their positions. Just ask Sir Edmond.
Posted by: Last Exit | June 22, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Hey shut up voters! Who ever gave you a right to speak?
Posted by: WhatIKnow | June 22, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
“A great civilization cannot be destroyed from without, until it has first destroyed itself from within” … by adhering to the LIBERAL agenda.
Posted by: first-striker | June 22, 2007, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Who is doing the “Survey” of howm many hours of Liberal slant in MSM vs. Conservative…We need BALANCE to the liberal MSM…not talk radio..which is entertainment…NOT news. We need blanance then to the leftist Jon Stewart then too.
Posted by: Jack | June 22, 2007, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Americans exercise freedom of choice everyday. They can purchase “Brand-X” instead of “Brand-Y”, change the station if they don’t like it, vote the bureaucrats in/out, vote the law in/out, etc. In order for freedom of speech to survive we have to be tolerant of other points of view. This is what makes America great. It’s ironic that success brings such criticism, usually from the competition. Mass media is driven by advertising dollars, and if there are no viewers/listeners/readers buying the products advertised, the show/newspaper/magazine will not survive. Free market dynamics 101.
Posted by: h4x0r | June 22, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
I listened to the recording of Inhofe. The radio jock asked if it was feinstein and boxer and Inhofe said he was half right and said the other was running for president. That means hillary is one of them but it leaves unclear if the other was feinstein or boxer. If it was feinstein the denials were would be technically true. I wish people would have asked if it was hillary and feinstein for if that was also denied then someone is lying.
Posted by: Richard Crisp | June 22, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
If your a registered Republican or Independent voter the first thing the dems plan to do is require you to be tattooed and look at naked pictures of Hillary for torture untill you change partyies. Kindest Regards
Posted by: Stach Grutza | June 22, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
100% of televsion broadcast on the PUBLIC airwaves is LIBERAL. Where s the balance? Tilted LEFT! ONLY Fox news on cable consistently presents both sides of issues. Hillary and all her REgressive friends don’t want to have to answer any tough questions. That’s why Hillary, Bill, et al won’t go on live TV debate shows like Hannity & Colmes. ANY condidate that refuses to be interviewed by Sean Hannity or Bill O’Reilly obviously has something to hide and is unqualified to lead this country or for any public office for that matter.
Posted by: Real American | June 22, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
The media is already own by the government…you gota” be joking me!!!
Posted by: Steve | June 22, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
“Senator Boxer told me that either her friend Senator Inhofe needs new glasses or he needs to have his hearing checked, because that conversation never happened,” says Natalie Ravitz, the communications director for Boxer.
“Jim Inhofe is wrong,” says Philippe Reines, Clinton’s press secretary. “This supposed conversation never happened – not in his presence or anywhere else.”
File these quotes under the heading of waiting for the other shoe to drop. The only thing in doubt is how many days it will be until the Clinton-Boxer camps start to backpedal and admit that it may have happened, but they don’t have a clear recollection of it. The real fun will be watching how well they learned parsing skills from Mrs. Clinton’s spouse.
Posted by: CEWJ | June 22, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Personally, I think we should apply the fairness doctrine to ABC’s news casts. Given that every report ABC delivers is slanted far-leftwards, that would mean the network would have to give hours of equal time to conservatives every day of the week. So I suppose of Hillary and Barb get their way, Rush Limbaugh could find plenty of work as a professional provider of equal time on ABC and the other two television networks.
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Let see the liberals call conservatives neocons, or new conservatives. Nothing really wrong with that as far as I can see. What can we call liberals since they are no longer really liberal or progressive. How about semicoms, which of course would stand for mostly-commie, it fits.
Posted by: Tom | June 22, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine and you wont have the sort of hateful rhetoric and hot emotional ranting that passes for discourse on talk radio. There has always been an audience of uneducated xenophobes who lurk in the tribal underbelly of advanced civilization. Bring back the Fairness Doctrine I say!
Let’s see: “hateful rhetoric.” “Emotional ranting.” “Uneducated xenophobes.” “Lurking in the Tribal underbelly.”
Well. I can under a “Fairness Doctrine” of YOUR choosing that we wouldn’t hear any more hateful speech, emotional ranting, or slandering of those you disagree with. Way to go!
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Trust Hillary? Why? If I were Sir Edmund Hillary (who Hillary claims she’s named after) I climb Everest agin and jump.
Remember that Politicians are the most honest people in the world as long as their mouths are SHUT!!!!!!!
And no, I did not invent the internet, Google, Yahoo or the Ipod
Posted by: Patriot | June 22, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Boxer and Clinton should be arrested and charged with perjuring their oaths of office, The first Amendment is absolute or is English to complicated for them.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | June 22, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
These people who call themselves “Moderates” amaze me…they are only fence-straddlers who can’t voice an opinion because they are afraid of being politically incorrect.
Anyone who believes anything Hillary, or any other Liberal says is nothing but a left wing conspiracy theorist who believes there is actually a “right wing conspiracy”.
Conservatives live a conservative life, just like most Americans and are not afraid to admit they believe in Conservative values.
80 percent of us (Americans) believe in freedom of speech, but the elitists in Washington (Both Parties) are afraid of free speech because with it the people retain the power of influencing their peers to pay attention to what the elitists are doing with our tax dollars.
Posted by: James E. | June 22, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I have absolutely no doubt that this conversation took place. In typcial Liberal fashion, their preferred option is to shout down or in this case “Silence via legislation” the opposition. Free speech and healthy debate are not in the liberal (Democratic Party) lexicon.
Posted by: Patrick | June 22, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I think Hitler would approve of the “Fairness Doctrine”. What is “Fair” to Liberals is fair…What is remotely fair to Conservatives is “unfair” by definition
Posted by: JJ. Walker | June 22, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Given Barbara Boxer’s disrespect for the truth, we have to go with Inhofe on this one.
Posted by: Arminius | June 22, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Seeing that the mainstream media is infested with libs, we can call it even. They sure do hate the truth being told.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | June 22, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Left, Right or Fringe, t’aint the governments business.
Posted by: geekWithA.45 | June 22, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Diffuse:
Again, you are not being honest about my statements.
You claim that:
“[I] object to people who don’t share [my] and ABC’s political views commenting on [ABC's] web page, inferring [you] have [your] own avenues for speaking out. It’s all about free speech.”
First of all, “inferring” is done by the reader. “Implying” is done by the writer. So I didn’t “infer” that you had your place. You inferred that I said that.
Second of all, I didn’t imply that.
I’m merely questioning why you and like-minded readers spend so much time here if you object so much to this website’s content?
Stay as long as you like. Comment as much as you want. It just doesn’t make any sense.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
thanks, karl. it worked. they’re more confused than ever. (slapping my knee in delight). see you next hunting trip.
sincerely,
charlie
Posted by: charles cathey | June 22, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Like all libs, this “Oxycon” seems to have a problem with basic mathematic. If the Republicans are the 26% as he attests, perhaps he can explain the 14% approval rating of Congress.
By his math, looks like lefty lib approval is at or less than zero.
Posted by: B. Taylor | June 22, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Johnny T -
What a rebel you are. my hero. a person who can think all by himself, congratulations for being able to think for yourself and being a rebel. Now, instead of turning the conversation into a name calling contest like Liberals such as yourself often do when they can contribute no substance to a conversation, how about commenting on what you think about freedom of speech. Why haven’t you free thinkers been able to succeed at putting a long lasting talk radio show out there yourselves. Because the audience for talk radio is not liberal. Libs have mainstream media, Conservatives have talk radio. Yet that is not enough for Ms. Pelosi and Ms. Boxer. They want balance on talk radio, yet do not worry at all about the imbalance on the major networks (i.e. 9 to 1 Dem contributions by news staff). It’s the typical liberal solution to everything…let the government control it, squash ideas that disagree with theirs, and then deny everything afterwards. So much for madame Speaker turning the tone of government around during her watch. same old, same old.
Posted by: Erik | June 22, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
thanks, karl. it worked. they’re more confused than ever. (slapping my knee in delight). see you next hunting trip.
sincerely,
charlie
Posted by: charles cathey | June 22, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
No more free speech. Next,….. the “Department of Happiness”.
Posted by: Ken Trefaller | June 22, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
thanks, karl. it worked. they’re more confused than ever. (slapping my knee in delight). see you next hunting trip.
sincerely,
charlie
Posted by: charles cathey | June 22, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
These commercial station owners are giving listeners what they want. The typical informed listener wants stimulating AND entertaining broadcasts while they hustle around their daily lives. Personally, I listen everyday for a few laughs from an interesting and biased point of view. I’m not buying most of the exaggerations and angry rants, but I certainly enjoy it!
Posted by: David | June 22, 2007, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Land of the free?
Posted by: matt | June 22, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine and apply it to Congress on C-Span so every person can speak there minds on C-Span.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
RE the “Fairness Doctrine” – There are already two major public outlets: NPR and the BBC. Having listened to both, I conclude that they are left-leaning news and political opinion outlets that may or may not survive should they not be subsidized by public funds. Recent American and British public polls on this issue support my conclusion.
The real question here is this. If the Fairness Doctrine is implemented, talk radio regulated, and liberal talk show hosts given equal time on air, if those hosts begin to lose money, as Air America has repeatedly, is it the oppinion of FD proponents that the government should then go into the business of subsidizing failing media outlets with government funds to keep unpopular liberal talk show hosts on the air?
Yet another BRILLIANT government solution to fixing something that isn’t broken.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
In reading through the comments, more than a couple keep talking about the 26% people, or the 24%, or whatever. Are these folks who are obsessed with polls? Are these folks that operate not from a logical or moral/ethical standpoint, but from a poll-driven one? Are these the same folks that can’t do something because it’s the right thing to do, but instead have focus groups and test pollings to see what will be most popular? I don’t want that mentality running my country, do you?
Posted by: RickG | June 22, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
BBC is British Broadcasting Chanel mate. You might be thinking of PBS
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
To Snak-bahr Kashir: “The Republicans claim the media are nothing but left-wing liberals out to undermine them. The Democrats claim the media are right-wing paid demolition artists.”
THEY ARE! And the MSM IS very liberal! What corner of the orld are you living in???
Posted by: oklucycat | June 22, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
We are at war. These two women are focused on limiting THEIR enemies. It’s focus that says something important about Hillary and Ms. Boxer.
I am not in favor of censoring internal political speech. If you’re esposing the down fall of Western society, that might be the type of thing Clinton and Boxer might consider threating.
Posted by: rlc | June 22, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
How funny.
I listen to Savage (and sometime Rush), read Buchannon, Novak, Wills, Noonan and Buckley and sometimes Coulter. And oh by the way, I ama liberal.
Please be smart. This problem started with the upper GOP trying to tell the base that it was racist and unamerican for not supporting the amnesty give ity away bill.
Then Trent Lott thought he could help by bashing talk radio (which is factually conservative.)
How ironic that a rebublican “overheard” the two of the top dems having a private over the same thing!
Well, the only person who is lying is Inhofe who is trying to cover Lott’s and Bushes butt. Please be smart. This is ONLY meant to implicate Dems in smashing conservative talk.
Posted by: Eric | June 22, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
If conservative talk radio is running America, then why is there currently a liberal majority in Congress?
Posted by: Kevin | June 22, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Once again the liberals are getting punded because their arguments are based on fear and emotion rather than fact. So now they think you are so stupid that you cannot choose for yourself on what you want to hear on the radio and they will try to do it for you! Buyer beware if one of them gets in the White House. If you think Gearge Orwell’s 1984 was bad wait until you see what they have in store for America. Let’s just limit terms in all areas of elected Gov’t and make these people WORK for a living. Congress is just a highly paid welfare system as it sits today.. Remember, you get what you PAY for….
Posted by: DDAY | June 22, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Wasn’t there a radio station that was started, just recently, with some left wing comic, that was supposed to take over the airwaves and it failed miserably?
Give the people what they want to hear!
Posted by: fireman52 | June 22, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
I say the hell with the govt. Lets all just live our own life and just dont bother with having a govt.
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
A.) Hillary Clinton is no liberal. Ask any liberal. She was on the board of directors at WalMart for Chrissakes.
B.) All you can do is call people names (liberal being your favorite pejorative. You’ll have to go look that up I’m sure) and parrot the claptrap you hear on talk radio and Faux news. Not a single original thought among you. Why don’t you sign up and go to Iraq and put your blood where your mouth is.
Posted by: KJS | June 22, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
All righty then. Let’s try this a third time: The public does not own the airwaves. That’s a political red herring. Government, however, controls the airwaves because no other entity, public or private, is capable of enforcing the use of those airwaves so as to avoid absolute chaos. Otherwise, you’d have those little bitty 10,000-watt stations getting blown away from dozens of 100,000-watt stations all competing for the same local market. Government’s jurisdiction, however, ends at the dispensing of operational licenses (emergency broadcasts notwithstanding). When government supplants the people and free market forces as arbiters of content, tyranny raises its ugly head. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
This time’s a charm, eh Censor?
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Well I got to go. I got off work early today. See yall on the net when ever. Yall keep using your 1st admenment in here. Power to the people!!
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Know they enemy, huh, Eric. Nice conspiracy theory. Goes right along with the Vast Right Wing conspiracy, 9/11 was an inside job, and Global Warming. Who knows if what Inhofe says is true, but between him and Clinton, I don’t think he holds a candle to her in deception and lying. She’s learned well from hubby.
Posted by: Erik | June 22, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
And we mock the Chinese for limiting access to the internet. Sieg Heil Senators!
Posted by: norm | June 22, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
boxer and clinton are LIARS! Does anyone really believe them? If this does go forward, then here are some other areas that need legislation to insure that opposing views are presented
Public TV
FM radio
Unions (expecially teachers)
Newspapers
News magazines
Lawyers organizations
NPR
There are probably dozens of others as well. We need to insure these outlets are added if this starts looking like it might happen.
Posted by: Christy | June 22, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I need to add that if you are so worried about your freedoms, you need to get that illegal wiretapper out of the Oval Office, repeal the PATRIOT Act and the MCA. You clowns don’t have a clue as to what the Constitution means.
Posted by: KJS | June 22, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Clinton totally dishonest. If she says the conversation never took place, then you can bet that it did.
Posted by: shamus | June 22, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
After all, when it comes to anything what Hillary says, it’s a vast right wing conspiracy, right??
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Just goes to show you, politicians think we’re a bunch of idiots… unable to think for ourselves… mindless robots walking around saying in monotone voices, “WE MUST OBEY TALK RADIO.”
Posted by: David Martin | June 22, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
KJS
I have been in the war. That is all that I am going to say. Because I want to keep my job and keep protecting these United States and your freedoms
Posted by: Gone | June 22, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
After all, when it comes to anything Hillary says, it’s a vast right wing conspiracy, right??
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Notice how when the legislators are personally affected by something, a legislative fix is expeditiously put underway?
But issues affecting the common American can take generations to even begin to be explored.
Did you know politicians have been talking about becoming energy self sufficient and proactive in the field of conservation since Bobby Kennedy was making speeches?
How far have we come with that in 40 years??
But let Hill’ and other politicians bring something that’s relatively limited in it’s scope and duration (10 years?) that casts the legislators in a bad light (from the left or right) and things start happening fast!
When do we start to realize just who this country is being managed for?
It happens to be the same people it’s being managed by.
Posted by: gotcha | June 22, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
This is NOT a right vs left issue. It IS an elite vs peon issue. Those in control HATE having the common man have an opinion and hate it more when they voice it in a powerful way. Let’s open the 22nd amendment to include a 2 term max for ALL elected officials. These blowhards forget where they come from and who they work for.
Posted by: robert | June 22, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
the libs stand around on street corners all day selling drugs,picketing,gaurding abortion clinics,trying to hook up with a same sex partner,waiting for the gov check to come,waiting for a john,or just homeless, screw em all!
Posted by: bill | June 22, 2007, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Johnny T -
“What a rebel you are. my hero. a person who can think all by himself, congratulations for being able to think for yourself and being a rebel. Now, instead of turning the conversation into a name calling contest like Liberals such as yourself often do when they can contribute no substance to a conversation, how about commenting on what you think about freedom of speech. ”
What in the HELL makes you think I’m a liberal? I’m a six-year Veteran who’s voted Republican since I turned voting age 26 years ago. My first vote was for Reagan, and I’ve never regretted it. Bush, on the other hand, was the lesser of two evils, Gore and Kerry. I had to bite my lip on those two votes.
Perhaps you misunderstood my sarcasm. Look at some of my earlier posts, or the one I just put up. BTW I gave Joe Lieberman a campaign contribution (only the second in my life) last year to keep nutroot Ned Lamont from screwing up the Senate even more than it is already. I’m only a liberal (a REAL liberal, not the Orwellian groupthink version) when it comes to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
How ironic that it is those very liberals who profess themselves champions of freedom of speech that are the first who wish to clamp down on it. I also point you to Kerry’s efforts to suppress the Swift Boat Veterans’ book in the summer of 2004. Not a stellar track record on which to build a “Fairness Doctrine.”
By their actions ye shall know them. We on the same page now?
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Will — What do you mean it’s not fair? If you and your progressive buddies are tired of the names you’re being called on talk radio, if you think the ulterior motives you’ve been assigned by conservative talk radio hosts are so mean-spirited and wrong, there’s something you can do about it — and it doesn’t require BoxerHillLott’s action. Buy (or build) a radio station, get a license to broadcast, then program away, my friend. If people want to listen, you’ll have an audience, or a market in which to sell advertising and pay the bills. Then you can say all of the mean-spirited things about conservatives and conservatism that you want, and you’ll be so busy doing it you won’t have time to tune in Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage or any of those other successful syndicated and highly successful radio talk show hosts.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
When did Billary ever tell the truth?
In the eyes of your typical socialist/marxist, truth is only a fantasy.
Posted by: Vince Foster's Ghost | June 22, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
You expected MaCain-Feingold to be the last attempt at “Thought Control” ?
What will we see sfter the “Fairness” doctrine is again imposed ?
Speach and Thought Police ?
Posted by: Tankfixer | June 22, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
A majority of the people just on this forum could do a better job then what we have in Congress. The common American hard working citizen know more about what we need then “some” Congress members worrying about how much money they can stuff in their deep pockets.
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Hogfan, maybe that’s the point. It appears that “Progressives” prefer to go to social activities, and discuss opinions, in an environment where there is plenty of reinforcing of their beliefs and concepts. They tend, like conservatives it appears, to watch media outlets that support their world view. I welcome progressive viewpoints when they are expressed on any media outlet, as should you.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
It never ceases to amaze me how many people keep hate going on a regular basis. Hate mongers on both sides on the isle keep the nation divided and when we need to be together we’re as far apart as ever before. Sen.Inhofe is never been one for peace and neither has anyone on the other side has learned to turn the other cheek. PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!! This is no time to argue about petty he said she said statements.If it is set in stone that the freedom of speech is being taken away then we have reason to be upset.But this is another example of hate mongers trying to start up mess when there is none. I know this is not a novel idea but let try to do it any way, GET down on our knees and close our eyes and pray for ourselves and this world because if we don’t freedom of speech is the least of our worries
Posted by: timmy d | June 22, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
You “progressives” slay me. You’ve got your shot, Air America, the saviour of your cause, the ones that were to stand up, fight back and retake the airwaves.
what happend?? NO one listens! They have just a good a shot as Rush, Hannity, Laura I, et al, yet they have to run to the bought and paid for political hacks in congress to do their bidding because they can’t compete.
typical liberal story, wine, bitch and complain to the government like you called for your mommy when you were a kid to save your backside.
Just once, solve a problem with an original idea, some entrepreneurial spirit, hell use your brain for once! instead of running to the nanny for help.
Posted by: Slovak | June 22, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Why would Inhofe just make this up? It doesn’t make sense…the simplest explanation is they said it and are lying about it. I mean, it’s not exactly unheard for a Clinton to be unfamiliar with the truth.
And what about the reaction from Boxer? Mean-spirited, in my opinion. If a Republican had said that about a colleague there’d be calls for their resignation.
Posted by: Chris | June 22, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
It just amazes me how gullible Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton think we all are! What does Sen. Imhof have to gain by telling a lie on a radio station? Nothing. What do Clinton and Boxer have to loose? Everything! The market drives talk radio, not the Government.
Posted by: bruce karger | June 22, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Will, after the things you Liberals have called this President, I find it hilarious that you would bring up the issue of name calling on talk radio.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
One questions for Burt:
Is your lazy a?? in Iraq?
Comment about Lott:
Absurd statement, considering that presidential candidates/senators admit they VOTE on bills without READING them.
Posted by: Zoe | June 22, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
KJS — Your 3:57. The original thought you expressed is…?
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
david rosen? vince foster ring a bell mrs.bill clinton oh yeah you don,t recall i truly believe this conversation took place by these old sea hags
Posted by: chuck | June 22, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
ABC now has a gossip columnist to cover the senate?
What a stupid story!
Posted by: bob | June 22, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Congress is used to exempting themselves from various rules and laws, and this would be yet another way of exempting – this time from accountability, which is something that talk radio brings to the table. That’s why they can’t handle it and why they will ultimately try to do something.
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Fact; most papers are liberal. Let’s have equal rebuttal to the headlines in every newspaper. Like today “US kills 25 civilians”, should read “After cowardly ambush, militants using human shields get killed”.
Nice
Posted by: Propaganda-ABC | June 22, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Everybody relax! Hillary and Nancy have always believed what Imhofe thought he overheard. There are reams of media quotations from both Hillary and Pelosi clearly indicating that they want the “Fairness Doctrine” re-invoked. Problem is, the Supreme Court has already ruled that this doctrine is unconstitutional. Besides, neither the Senate or the House have the votes to generate any quasi-fairness legislation. With the Congress’ approval rating hovering at 28%, look for big gains by the GOP in ’08. As far as Hillary sites on the Presidency, the polls consistently show her 7 to 11 points behind Guilliani. It ain’t gonna happen!
Posted by: Mister G | June 22, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
I’m really shocked at all the ignorant comments here. “Go out and buy a radio station …?” ARE YOU KIDDING? The point is, the airwaves shouldn’t be FOR SALE, any more than our water should be for sale, ya dumb clucks. The reason 91% of the shows are conservative is because corporations have bought what should be held in public trust, and that means, ultimately, THEY’VE BOUGHT YOUR MINDS, since you apparently listen and believe everything you hear. You are being brainwashed by corporate media, and you aren’t even aware enough to know who you should be mad at. What’s the matter with Kansas? What’s the matter with middle America is more like it. Read. Think. ACT.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Because they prefer communism, the left will do anything it can to shut down the capitalist free market under which talk radio operates. Rather than actually create a product that can compete, they would prefer to cripple stations financially by forcing them to accept programming they don’t want. Air America had the money and the backing, and IT FAILED. Face it, Americans aren’t interested in their propaganda.
Posted by: K9443 | June 22, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
I listened to the recording of Inhofe. The radio jock asked if it was feinstein and boxer and Inhofe said he was half right and said the other was running for president. That means hillary is one of them but it leaves unclear if the other was feinstein or boxer. If it was feinstein the denials were would be technically true. I wish people would have asked if it was hillary and feinstein for if that was also denied then someone is lying.
Posted by: Richard Crisp | Jun 22, 2007 3:34:20 PM
RICHARD, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT! IF BOXER WASN’T NAMED, HOW DOES SHE KNOW IT WAS HER WHO NEEDED TO ISSUE A PRESS RELEASE? ABC, TAKE NOTE!!!
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Chris has it right. Air America was supposed to champion the Left cause. Fairure; just like most left ideas.
Socialism does not work
Posted by: Propaganda-ABC | June 22, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
“Inhofe is a bizarre person and a complete embarressment to the United States of America.
The things that come out of his crackpot mouth you’d expect to hear from a conspiracy theorist who OD’d on crack.”
Posted by: OxyCon | Jun 22, 2007 12:53:38 PM”
Wow, that’s hate speech times 100! Get this hater neocommiefascist off of the internet!
Trivia question: Do any of you lefty fools know who Billy Dale was? I’ll give you a hint. A woman running for President tried to frame him and throw him and jail so her friends could get some work. Oh yeah, he was a Democrat!
Posted by: Billy Dale's twin | June 22, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I must be working, even old LOCK STEP Mc Connel is thinking about not voting for amnesty.
I think he has the word from back home that the voter are pis-sed and that they out number the voting interests, LOBBYISTS!!!!!!!! He’s up for re-election or he wouldn’t give a s%&t what the people back home thinks. And you can add the two in the white house to the list.
If we had any sense we would leave for Washington now and have a house cleaning. Talking with them a sure don’t get you anywhere.
Posted by: Bill | June 22, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The left just can’t stand capitalism and the free market, because they can’t compete. Air America had the money and the backing, and it crashed and burned.
Posted by: Turtle | June 22, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
As Americans are we wanting all of our liberties and freedoms to be legislated away.
Our right to privacy has been trumped by fear mongers telling everyone they need to spy domestically to protect us, that is a bunch of houey.
If you don’t like what you hear on the radio change the dial or turn off the radio.
Posted by: Mary | June 22, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
If I were Sen Inhofe, I would challenge the ladies, Sens. Clinton and Boxer, to a lie-detector test. Even a congenital liar can’t pass a well-administered test. The loser gives, say, $500K to charity of the winner’s choice.
Put up, or shut-up!!!
Let’s see – Hillary’s dirtball brother, Tony, marries, cheats on, and divorces Barbara Boxer’s daughter. I wonder how they met??? Hmmmm. Then Tony and his brother, Huge Rodham, get the tar beaten out of them by the husband of the woman who Tony cheated on Barbara Boxer’s daughter with.
And these two political so-n-so’s remain ‘friends’. Do they have any character or sense at all? Can we possibly believe them?
James Inhofe winner of this round.
Posted by: Brendan | June 22, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
So are they calling Senator Imhofe a liar?
Posted by: ailec | June 22, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Remember, Newt said it first. Or “Brother Newt”, as El Rushbo USED to refer to him. The powers that be have spoken. Talk (hate) radio is about to become history. It’s about damn time.
Posted by: Jonny Danville | June 22, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Zoe — What’s my displacement on Earth got to do with a discussion about talk radio and whether our government should dictate its content?
But for what it’s worth, sweetheart, I did my time: 7 years in the USMC. Saw 241 of my brothers killed by a coward terrorist. (That was in Beirut, if you aren’t old enough to remember it.)
And what was that sloppy comment about a lazy a**?
Stick to the conversation. The personal attacks obviously don’t work.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
If I was Inhofe, I would be on the guard for a “Vince Foster” handshake the next time he runs into Ol Hank Clinton and Babs Boxer.
Posted by: slovak | June 22, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
RE: Face it conservatives dominate talk radio because folks want to hear it.
WRONG. In fact, the corps choose the shows, not the listeners. GE, etc. They’re the ones deciding what news you can hear. People listen because they get their nasty fix on talk radio – they get to be mad at somebody. Any somebody will do for most people. They don’t want to actually THINK, just spout the party line they’ve been propagandized to believe. So many on this blog are doing that. For example, calling our economy a capitalist economy … when corporate welfare is rampant. I pay my taxes. Does ExxonMobil? Does Halliburton? Nope.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Gogi, you speak of OUR minds being bought, and yet, you can’t even remember that your own people were just as responsible for Iraq as this President, because your “control Unit” over at the Democrat Misinformation Media Machine keeps telling you “Bush lied.”
In spite of having an Ivy League Diploma, and better grades than Kerry or Gore, and authorization to fly high performance jet aircraft, you keep repeating the mantra that the DMMM has given you about this President being stupid. Of course, the same thing was said about Reagan, now they want to put him on Rushmore. So, who’s minds are really bought here?
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
The reason conservative talk is so successful is because America as a whole is tired of the leftist bias in the major networks, public broadcasting and newspapers. I guarantee that stations would not keep running this programming if it was not drawing ad dollars and ratings. And lefties can’t stand it.
Posted by: Clay | June 22, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
This is not a real issue at all! It is only gossip. Its fake controversy that was produced entirely by talk radio itself and the Drudge Report.
Posted by: david | June 22, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Why the pretense Hillary?
Just divorce Bill and mary Hugo Chavez.
He’ll teach you how to PROPERLY dispose of competitive ideas.
I’ve never seen a more power hungry group as is represented by these current women and “Metro sexuals” in congress and have never seen communism/socialism so clearly on display.
What’s it going to take America? Have you all been so feminized and desensitized that you’re just going to let this happen? Stand up and be counted among those who still have allegience to the Constitution and the Declaration of independence. Live free or die for life under the rule of socialism/communism IS Americas death.
Posted by: CS | June 22, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Such a ludicrous story. Let Inhofe provide a tape. If not, it’s nothing more than “so, when did you stop beating your wife?” type of stuff. In other words, both unprovable and indefensible. Lame.
Incredible how people here believe this story as fact for no better reason than they want to. Typical ideological blinders, which both parties wear all too well.
Yet another reason why we need a third party. One that’s not right, not left, but common-sense pragmatic.
Posted by: DaTruth | June 22, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Just a heads-up for the left: The First Amendment does not allow discrimination based on content, REGARDLESS of whether you think a person’s ideas are stupid or baseless. If I can draw ratings by going on the air and saying the sky is green, that is my right as an American. If you want that kind of regulation, move to Havana or Pyongyang.
Posted by: uBoat | June 22, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
fake controversy
Posted by: david | June 22, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Sen Inhofe was just on Fox News and said that the conversation took place 3 years ago in an elevator and that the Senators were ranting about talk radio. He told them to get over it and that it was market driven…that’s it. Unbelievable that a 3 year old elevator conversation is now top news for a nation at war…
Posted by: rushrules | June 22, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Gogi, many people listen to talk radio because for years they held opinions and beliefs that they NEVER heard expressed in the dominant media. One day, they turn on the radio and discover that many people agree with much of what they do, they are just not given a forum.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Freedom means you may not like what another thinks or says. And people who hate freedom create laws for everything they don’t like.
Posted by: Ryan | June 22, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Talk about the American Revolution II – this would do it — but these two dumb broads wouldn’t have the time to spend on this project anyhow, what with their obsession with make-up, botox visits, hair care, and tailored suits. I gotta believe half their day is gone before they’re ready to face the public.
Posted by: L Rodgers | June 22, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Yes, David, this story was created on talk radio, fanned by Matt Drudge, and now picked up by “mainstream” ABC. And if BoxerHillLott have their way, we wouldn’t be having a conversation about whether government should control the political content heard over the airwaves.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Diffuse
1. Don’t presume you know me. You don’t. But your comments make clear you lump anyone who disagrees with you in the same “them” basket.
2. Bush did lie. And continues to. And repeating the lie that he didn’t doesn’t make it true. Nor does all your name-calling make you the winner. Speaking of truth …
3. Talk radio rarely deals with the truth, it’s opinion. Which is the reason for something like the Fairness Doctine, since opinions will always differ (as yours and mine do) and TRUTH is not served by exclusion but by inclusion.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Inhofe just said that it’s a story he’s been telling as a joke for 3 years…that it happened over 3 years ago…and they never mentioned legislation…
Posted by: Toshi | June 22, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Being a retired lobbyst I feel that I have a better insight than most. For over 30 years I walked the hallowed halls of DC. There were Statesmen and women then. Now there is not a soul who is not there just to get re-elected. As an American I am imbarassed that congress is only 14% approved by us. I think we need to get good elected officials, not the least bad person. Talk Radio is a market place. If Liberals had a worthy story to tell they would have a listening audiance. Legislating our right to here whatever is corrupt at it’s best and shamefull.
Of course most persons won’t fight the big Government. At our young age we never learned to take a position in politics because we believed in our congressman. We learned to fight and kill to protect the liberals and thier way of thinking. Shameful. Thanks
Posted by: Bill Watson | June 22, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Divorce Bill and marry Hugo Chavez! Now that’s funny!
Look, you guys, I’m not in love with Hillary, but it’s important for us all to look at WHO OWNS MEDIA in this country. And what the results of the loss of Fairness has done to real news as opposed to info-tainment. And we’d better do it quick before they take away this forum, too – which by the way, they want to. Ever heard of Net Neutrality?
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
We are talking about a group of people that have a 14% approval rating. The same people that got nothing accomlished in the first 90 hours (or 90 days) and who can’t see that immigration reform is as much a security matter as it is increasing the voter rolls.
Ther’s very little to worry about since it “sounds” like our constitutional rights are being trampled on and you know this message will come out STRONG as the fairness doctrine looms larger and all the “noise” (liberal and conservative) hits the airwaves.
But lets say it does happen.
All the conservative talk show hosts have to do is move over to XM radio and they will become rich beyond their wildest dreams.(Remember Howard Stern?) Add to this that they will be able talk about anything they want and not have to worry about being censored. Can you say “Michael Savage on steroids”?
Ang guess what – all the “ditto heads” will follow and they will poney up the bucks to do it. If you want to look at it as the lemmings will always head into the sea, then so be it. AM radio, in all likelyhood,will just disappear into history and XM will be as big a force in shaping public opinion as AM radio is today.
All you libs who want to silence talk radio have to come to grips with the fact that it can’t be silenced. There has never been a point in history where censorship was considered a good thing or one case where it improved the human condition.
As long as Americans “yearn to be free” there will always be a conservative radio host out there giving ideas on how to do that.
Conservative radio will never die. Its just going to move to the next venue and dominate that as well.
Posted by: Dave | June 22, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Nice, let’s hope that some dumba** doesn’t tell a Dubya story from a 1968 beerfest claiming it happened last week…Inhofe screwed his credibility….
Posted by: Redstate | June 22, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
No, the govt. should stay out of it. Free enterprise and capitolism works! That’s why US is the most envied country on the planet.
Posted by: June | June 22, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Bill Watson, thank you, much appreciated insight.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
What’s the big deal libs?? If you don’t like it, turn the dial to something else. You dno’t even listen to your own lefties, why are you worried about Conservatives?
Thom Hartman, that Socialist is on everyday at noon here est. I always listen to the first opening segment before heading to Rush so I can here if “Independant” as Thom describes him, Bernie Sanders is on.
Independant Bernie Sanders is like saying Good Guy Joseph Stalin.
Posted by: slovak | June 22, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Gogi,
1. You talk about me lumping you into a basket, then pull the Bush lied card. That’s the basket, all right.
2. If Bush lied, then so did every prominent Democrat. Read the link.
3. Inclusion does not mean silencing people you disagree with.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Calm down everyone!!! Inhofe just admitted on Cavuto that it happened over 3 years ago and not like it was reported on Drudge!!! A non story!!
Posted by: doogie | June 22, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I pray that we get another conservative as president. Please lets keep socialism out of this country!!
But still…I love the liberals (as a people), just not their views.
Love the sinner, hate the sin…well, that’s taking it radically…oh well, you get my point.
Posted by: GOPgirl | June 22, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
How typical of Liberals to attempt to leglislate that which cannot be accomplished in a free market, or at the ballot box.
Liberal Talk Radio has been tried a bunch of times. The truth is, nobody, not even their supporters, wants to listen to it. Air America actually has had to pay stations to run their show.
I mean really, who wants to spend hours of their time listening to clueless, hateful like Janeane Garofalo?
I know this much. There are only two ways in which “Liberal” Talk radio can succeed. One, is if they can find a lefty who is as funny and entertaining as Rush Limbaugh. So far, no luck. The second is if they pass a law reinstating the so-called “fairness doctrine.”
The free market has spoken. Basically, people don’t want to listen to liberal talk radio because they don’t like spending several hours being condescended to.
In a nutshell, here is why Liberal talk radio will never work:
Q: How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: That’s not funny!
Posted by: william | June 22, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
“That’s why US is the most envied country on the planet.”
???? Oh,you poor thing, take your head out of the sand. The U.S. since Bush is the most reviled and hated country on the planet. Think THAT makes us safer?
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Diffuse has it right. For a long time I kept hearing about this “shock jock” Rush Limbaugh and the horrible things he supposedly said. Then, as I was moving across country in December 1989, I heard one of his broadcasts for the first time. As I would travel out of range of one station, I found myself frantically trying to find the rest of the broadcast on another, closer station. He was saying what I had been saying and believing for years. Come to find out, he was no “shock jock” after all. He’s just conservative, and an arch enemy of the political left in this country.
Gogi, I’m not brainwashed at all. I wouldn’t call myself a ditto-head if I was the last Limbaugh listener left on Earth. I think for myself, gather information from a wide variety of sources, and make decisions for myself based on that research. It just so happens, I agree with Limbaugh more often than not, and I hardly EVER agree with anyone on the political left.
So shoot me!
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
The democrats would like nothing better than to scrap the constitution. we all know how they feel about voting on issues. Democrats do not want to legislate this country. they want to rule it.
Posted by: Michael Barnish | June 22, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Gogi,
Repeat after me: The Constitution allows ALL people’s opinions to be heard, whether or not their views line up with yours, or whether you think they’re stupid or worthless. Got it?
Posted by: uBoat | June 22, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Talk radio is not news. It is entertainment and, as such, is driven by advertising dollars. Talk radio hosts do not have to be accurate, they just have to get high ratings. I am opposed to Congress regulating the airways in the name of “fairness”. Censorship by any other name still stinks!
Posted by: Sharon | June 22, 2007, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Left, right, up or down. None of the aboved parties represent any of us.
It is all a show so we don’t look at what is really going on.
Taking away all of our freedoms, fighting wars for false pretenses and not finding out what really happened on 9/11/2001.
Please stop making comments from the right or left.
Start thinking as an AMERICAN!
Posted by: JJ | June 22, 2007, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
We already have a law that tells who and how to come into our country. It is called the LAW. Just inforce it because we don’t need this ne amnisty thing. As for talk radio, if they have anything to say that anyone wanted to hear their stupid show would be as successful as ours are.
Posted by: Rick | June 22, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Dear Diffuse,
I don’t believe the “so did the Dems” argument. So now you’re assuming I’m an apologist for the Dems, huh? How little you know.
And my Mama taught me that two wrongs don’t make a right. They ALL lied, my dear. Because they wanted to keep that secret Cheney oil deal a secret, and keep those oil dollars coming into their own coffers.
But because he has the most power, Bush needs the most scrutiny, that’s all. You, as a “conservative,” ought to agree with that.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Hey K9443, water IS for sale as you say “ya dumb cluck”. I believe you pay a water bill. If air waves were not for sale, nobody would build them up with $ and use them extensively. It would be like ham radio and we know how many people use that. It is easy to see you do not “Read. Think. ACT.” as you say. Your socialism ideas sound great, but in reality and in proctice, they don’t really work and end in failure.
Posted by: Ted Cory | June 22, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Wow. I guess I’m to stupid to figure out anything. Can’t be trusted. I might even start believing Ted Kennedy next. Then where will I be?
Posted by: John | June 22, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
This is a horrible article. There is nothing in here about the legislation proposed. Nothing. It does not help us understand the situation, just further serves to polarize the left and write. It says your a senior national correspondant. I guess that doesn’t mean your a journalist.
Posted by: Brian | June 22, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Hey, uBoat,
That’s exactly what the Fairness Doctrine says — all people’s opionions, not just the ones corporations paid for. So we agree on that! :D Nobody’s trying to shut down Rush – just offer some alternatives.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
RE: Face it conservatives dominate talk radio because folks want to hear it.
“WRONG. In fact, the corps choose the shows, not the listeners. GE, etc. They’re the ones deciding what news you can hear. People listen because they get their nasty fix on talk radio – they get to be mad at somebody. Any somebody will do for most people. They don’t want to actually THINK, just spout the party line they’ve been propagandized to believe. So many on this blog are doing that. For example, calling our economy a capitalist economy … when corporate welfare is rampant. I pay my taxes. Does ExxonMobil? Does Halliburton? Nope.”
So how do you explain the failure of Air America? Did Halliburton and ExxonMobil use the tax dollars they didn’t pay to bribe millions of listeners not to tune them in?
Sounds like you’re spouting the party line to me. And now you know why liberals don’t do well on talk radio.
Some guy who just got away from his nagging wife doesn’t want to listen to even more nagging on the radio.
BTW to all the PATRIOT ACT and wiretap
opponents: first, Roosevelt suspended many liberties during WWII, including censoring mail and treating German saboteurs in the US as enemy combatants (six of whom were executed). Lincoln suspended Habeus Corpus in the Civil War. When enemies are in a war trying to conquer and/or kill you, or overthrow the elected government, certain protections must be put in place. To not do so is suicide.
Yet, after each conflict, full rights were restored by our government. Very amazing developments if you look at how such power, once seized in other countries, is rarely relinquished.
We have hundreds of thousands if not millions of Islamist jihadis working 24/7 to think up new ways to kill as many of us as possible. If you can think up a better way of interfering with their activities and breaking up cells like the Fort Dix Six without listening in on their conversations, or giving law enforcement the tools they need to track these sick bastards down before another Beslan or 9/11 happens, I’d like to hear it.
I am so SICK of liberals complaining of problems without offering solutions that are even worse than the problems. The Fairness Doctrine is a perfect case in point. Enshrine freedom of the airwaves by regulating and controlling talk radio is nothing but revealing of their twisted control freak personalities. ’nuff said.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I believe there is too much liberal content on broadcast TELEVISION shows and news programs. Why isn’t that ever discussed? Perhaps because it is fundamentally un-American to regulate TV script content, even though TV stations are licensed users of airwaves. Once the government issues the radio license, they should forget all about the content unless it is actionably obscene. OK? Let freedom work.
Posted by: Cuthbert Rumbold | June 22, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
I BELIEVE HILLARY AND THAT OTHER OLD BAG ARE COMMITTED LIARS. THEY BOTH WILL HAVE A TERRIBLE TIME TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ANYTHING, EXCEPT THEIR OWN AGENDAS. EVEN ONE OF THE CLINTON’S OLD CONTRIBUTORS SAID THEY BOTH HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIE WITH SUCH EASE THAT IT BOTHERED HIM.
Posted by: JOEL GOODMAN | June 22, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Diffuse:
I think you’re over-generalizing. I am a proud liberal, not even a so-called “progressive,” and I get my information from sources outside the liberal media. My sources range from middle of the road to the left. But since I don’t even understand the right-wing perspective, I don’t frequent right-wing outlets. It would be like hanging out with a bunch of native-speaking Japanese people all day long. Nice people, probably. But I wouldn’t understand a word.
That’s what I observe from all the conservative commenters on sites like ABC. Just a bunch of right-wingers getting frustrated with and misrepresenting ideas that are opposed to theirs. Where’s the interest in that?
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Gogi,
I’m all for scrutiny, but it seems the only people the press, and the Democratic congress, want to “scrutinize” is Republicans. Remember Catherine Willey? Claimed the last President raped her. Never made a dime off of it. Got audited. Where was the media investigation on that one? I thought “women never lie about rape.”
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Burt,
You sound like a right guy. I have no beef with you, because you seem to actually have done some thinking and made up your own mind. It’s the dittoheads of both parties I can’t stand. I want people to THINK and make up their own minds. And they should have CHOICES about what they listen to. 91% of stations is pretty much mind-control territory in my book.
AND I just wish we had some real news left on the radio or anyplace at all.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Liberals had their chance with Air America. They failed. Yet I noticed none of the lefties on this board are willing to address why exactly that happened. Was it a “right wing” conspiracy by the oil companies and George Bush?? Maybe it was the “religious right.” Hmm….
Posted by: uBoat | June 22, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Anyone, I repeat, anyone who would take what they hear on Talk Radio (national shows, at least) as gospel really needs a reality check.
Someone once asked Limbaugh why he would never admit anything good that might have been done by Democrats. His response? “I’m not going to cheerlead the other side.”
In other words, there’s no “truth” on Talk Radio. It’s only one side’s dogma, and the side doesn’t matter. For some idiotic reason, people enjoy it because it panders to their prejudices. It’s simply preaching to the proverbial choir.
It’s purely divisive, and only reinforces half-truths and stereotypes about people and parties. That’s what you want to subscribe to?
Anyone wondering how despots like Hitler came to power need only listen to the one-sided diatribes on talk radio (both left and right). Once people begin believing this nonsense, it gets scary. That makes it a bit more important than just “entertainment”.
Posted by: DaTruth | June 22, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Hmmm…I do recall Hitler, Stalin, and all of our leading communists being socialists.
Yes, that is EXTREMELY radical to say, but socialism is how it all starts…
Once the government takes away our rights, the people’s freedom dies.
Scary.
Posted by: GOPgirl | June 22, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
After Michael Savage heartlessly attacked the Virginia Tech community, including it’s memorial service and speaker Niki Giovanni, only a day after the bloodshed, and right after the Imus scandal – a heinous act on Michael’s part akin to walking up behind and kicking the families of the dead while their loved ones’ blood lay fresh on the ground in front of them – I am a proponent of regulation on the likes of Savage. Imus got fired for saying “Nappy Headed Ho” which had nothing to do with taunting those who just experienced carnage and immense lose of loved ones – an event noticed world wide. Savage did not get fired for an act much worse than Imus. No one in the media even noticed Savage. Hypocrisy abounds. ABCNews would do the public a service by getting an old recording of the Savage show on April 17th and doing a story on it as part of its research on regulation of shock jocks, conservative or not.
Posted by: Hokie | June 22, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Johnny T, you’re ranting. Take a breath. A rant like that only undercuts anything of substance you might want to say.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
I tried, I REALLY REALLY tried to listen to Air America a few times simply to get the gist of their side of a (any) argument. I could not find enough real “substance” to justify the venom spewed. Tell me FACTS and I’ll listen; tell me your NUANCE…I’m gone.
Posted by: Gryphon | June 22, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Forcing stations to accept programming they don’t want will cause serious financial harm, particularly if they cannot find advertisers to cover the cost. Libs basically want radio stations to run a charity outfit.
Posted by: MJ | June 22, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
I have to respond to Mike’s comments. He seems to think that all media is owned by a few corporations that are interested in brainwashing us. No, they are interested in making money. On the networks, you notice that the bigwigs never get involved until there is a scandal. Example: the Rather situation. Once it was shown that he put obviously forged documents on the air, they knew it was time for him to go. And their decision for a replacement was not based as much on political leanings as it was on having a pretty fresh face and a perky personality, because they thought it would drive ratings (they are starting to see that it was a dumb idea now).
As far as talk radio goes, it is basically the same situation. Clearchannel is the leader. They own two stations in my city. On one they have Rush, Hannity, and local hosts. On the other, they stacked it with the best-known liberal talk show hosts along with Air America. They hung with it for a couple years, but after the ratings stayed so miserable, despite their consistent marketing of the station, they dumped the format. A pure business decision, nothing else.
Posted by: Louis | June 22, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Boxer and Clinton should first concentrate on making the network news more balanced. Maybe then, the talk radio won’t seem so bad.
Posted by: Peter Fun | June 22, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Diffuse, my friend,
I am all for scrutiny of the corrupt, no matter who they are. But you must admit, leading us into a war where thousands upon thousands have died, and bankrupting the country … deserves a bit of scrutiny, yes? Undercutting civil liberties … scrutiny, yes?
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
These are just typical Liberals that try to abuse their powers.
They got tired of talk radio doing so well, and there is a reason why they do so well, BECAUSE ITS CONSERVATIVE! Its not a coincidence that Libaugh, Hannity and O’Reilly all get great ratings, its because THEIR CONSERVATIVE and people enjoy listening to their ideas. On the other hand, you got Air America, and the reason that went bankrupt Liberals, plain and simple.
If the Liberals want to muffle talk radio, they got another thing coming, because they underestimate it.
Posted by: John Greene | June 22, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Talk radio resulted from the liberal bias of the television/cable media. Those of us with differing ideas than those of the boob-tube sheeples wanted to hear and talk about important issues and have the hipocrisy of the liberal politicians exposed for what it is. If you are liberal you probably went to government schools beleived every word your socialist professors fed you in college and now settled into being a conforming member of your socialist democratic party. Hope you enjoy your brief ride. For me, I will fight for my freedoms and kick sand in every wimpy liberal I meet. ROCK ON!
Posted by: Jon | June 22, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Just to set the record straight for anyone who feel that there is too much liberal content in the mainstream media:
I am a liberal. A proud one. And I can assure you that there is “a liberal media.” But it’s not where you’re looking.
I find very little content for people with my perspectives on the radio or on TV.
If you think NBC, ABC or CBS are the “liberal media,” I’ve got news for you. They are not. In the grand scheme of things, they are pretty-much in the middle of the road.
If you want to experience real, liberal media, listen to Air America or watch Link TV. Then compare that to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. I think you’ll find that those are fair example of the left and right ends of the spectrum — and that the sources you currently perceive as liberal are actually the mainstream.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
“Nobody’s trying to shut down Rush – just offer some alternatives.”
How wrong you are, Gogi! You need to go back and look at what the “Fairness” Doctrine required before 1987. If you’re being literal and talking only about Rush, you might be right. But Rush in this case represents all of conservative talk radio, or according to that recent survey, 91 percent of daily talk radio. If radio stations are required to provide equal time to those with different or opposite opinions, someone’s current airtime is going to be chopped WAY short. I’d sure like to hear your explanation how that is not shutting down “Rush.”
And what’s with this “offering alternatives” garbage? Progressives (liberals) had Air America to put them to sleep every night. That was an alternative. Why can’t liberals understand the concept behind market forces dictating business decisions? Is the ideology so infective that liberals are blinded into believing their only hope comes in the form of a strong-arming federal government that forces specific attitudes and behaviors upon people?
Hey, go find Hannity’s TV sidekick on the radio dial and have a pitty party about how our country isn’t fair.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
For years the Conservatives like myself have BM’d about the liberal press and papers like the NY TImes, but did the Republicans ever call for outright censorship like this? NO!
Call it the Fairness Doctrine or what ever… Hillary and Barbara simply want to censor any opposing viewpoints to their own and won’t hesitate to use the courts to accomplish this when in power.
We should all be afraid of a government like this America… very VERY afraid.
Posted by: RichStadler | June 22, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
How do you know a Clinton or Clinton aide is lying?
simple, their mouth is moving.
Posted by: david | June 22, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
God forbid there be an informed electorate! LOL What these elitist oligarchy types hate is that we’re now actually paying attention to all of the idiocy and corruption that goes on in our govt and we’re actually holding them accountable for it! Go ahead and try and disband the people’s right to cross examine your policies… go ahead and make our day! I for one will pull out all the stops to see these people removed from office and these elitist snobs will see a grassroots movement like they never dreamed of and I can guarantee that. All talk radio provides is transparency of their back room deals and they don’t like it. TOO BAD LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT POLITICIANS THE PARTY’S OVER!!!!
Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
DaTruth, Rush Limbaugh takes great pains to describe himself to his listeners as an entertainer. Nothing more. People like Hitler came to power by silencing alternative viewpoints, not offering them.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Biasing the media and eliminating opposing viewpoints does affect the general population. But the main way it confers power is by creating an illusion for congressmen and other elected officials.
Congressmen don’t get a lot of direct information from their districts. This is partly because they spend so much time in their legislatures, partly because people who “talk to power” have their own agendas – and those who have a lot of time to do it are not a representative sample of opinion.
So if the media can create the illusion that the electorate is, say, far left of its actual position, they can sucker the Republicans into going along with all sorts of left-wing legislative wackiness.
The item that started the current flap is a case in point. The the left-wing media has the Congress (and Bush) convinced the citizenry will go along with, or even encourage, yet another amnesty. In fact the overwhelming mass of the population is dead set against it.
Talk radio popped the bubble, alerting the population to what was up in congress, and reminding them that their congresscritters should be told about it. The grass roots groundswell was more like an earthquake, rattling their cages.
So now they’re saying that talk radio CREATED the public outcry. They’re trying to shoot the messenger and go back to their peaceful wheeling-and-dealing in their isolated capitol city.
Posted by: Yet Another Mike | June 22, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I think that Nancy Pelosi is in violation of the Logan Act of 1799 when she travelled to Syria. This law was signed by President John Adams that prohibits unauthorized U.S. citizens from interfering with relations between the United States and foreign governments.
Nancy Pelosi went to Syria as the Speaker and took it upon herself to conduct foreign policy. This is a blatant violation of the Logan Act.
No one has ever been prosecuted under the 208-year old law, according to the Congressional Research Service.
Pelosi carried a message from Israel to Syria and that message according to representatives of both Syria and Israel wasn’t consistent with what one of them agreed to … these are the kind of problems you get and I think she must be held accountable for her actions.
Posted by: Navy Chief | June 22, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Inhofe is changing his story – yesterday he said he heard this alleged conversation “the other day”..a few minutes ago he told Sean Hannity that it happened three years ago!
This screaming on the right is about maintaining the post-Reagan deregulation monopolies that have risen in the radio imdustry – nothing more.Talk radio thrived in the 70s and 80s and was far better and more informative than the right-wing propaganda-shrieking machine that it has become.
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine and limits on station ownership and make the radio industry serve the public interest again.
Posted by: Don in boston | June 22, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Naked power, used to silence opponents.
Evil. Tyranny. Here!
Posted by: kj | June 22, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Dennis Kucinich are also pursuing the Fairness Doctrine:
Posted by: Koi | June 22, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
well how about the liberal agenda in hollyweird…i dont think its fair that they can push their agenda in movies and tv like i see,but i am not going to call on the goverment to do something about it.
it’s the way of the left if they have nothing they look to goverment and courts to circumvent their agenda.
they have nothing and they know it.
Posted by: E | June 22, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Oh I see We’re all supposed to be interested in whos doing whom, or which spoiled brat is going to jail. But if we dare converse on opposing issues or disagree with the Left. Then by god it must be stopped!. What are they hiding?? What kind of twisted little parlour games are being played at the expense of true american freedom! Those Jackals!! We must begin to think about a general uprising if they want to take it this far. Thank god the troops will be forced to come home by the liberals in their Mau Suits. We may need their assistance in such matters of reconstruction.
Posted by: meridian_poe | June 22, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Johnny T, you’re ranting. Take a breath. A rant like that only undercuts anything of substance you might want to say.
Posted by: Gogi | Jun 22, 2007 4:51:45 PM
First off, I agree it’s a rant. I tried to make it an intelligent one. For example, the Declaration of Independence was an intelligent rant against England’s excesses in the Colonies. Like Johnny Rotten said, “anger is an energy.” Anger, properly focused and eloquently stated, can move worlds.
You can make your response more intelligent by pointing out what things I say are beyond the bounds of reason and common sense, I’ll be glad to listen to you. Otherwise, you’re no different from the Fairness Doctrine supporters who detest talk radio and demand its regulation without specifying exactly what subject matter or specific quotes they find objectionable enough to suppress.
I await your eloquent response.
Posted by: JohnnyT | June 22, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
All of you claiming that no one would listen to “Liberal” talk radio have it wrong. It doesn’t matter whether it’s Liberal or Conservative. It DOES matter whether the person is entertaining to listen to.
The airwaves are littered with Rush wannabe’s who will never make it past small markets because they are not entertaining in the least. Many have been let go because no one wanted to listen to them. You can’t simply be an angry right-wing person on-air and expect to do well.
Look at someone like Steve Malzberg in NYC. He always sounds angry. No one wants to hear that. On the other hand, one half of the Curtis and Kuby show on WABC 770 is Ron Kuby, who is so far left, he’s tilting off the planet at times. But, he’s quick-witted, and has good chemistry with Curtis Sliwa.
Do any of you honestly think someone like John Stewart couldn’t do well on lefty radio? It’s all about personality.
While I disagreed with him on a lot of things, I used to love to listen to Bob Grant when he was on WABC. He was entertaining in his own way, and was hilarious dealing with people that disagreed with him on air.
Posted by: DaTruth | June 22, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Hogfan — From your leftist perspective, I imagine you would find “mainsteam” media to be too middle of the road-ish. That’s a typical socialistic viewpoint, but not that of a liberal. So tell me this: Besides yourself, when is the last time you heard someone — anyone! — describe mainstream media as being anything other than liberal? Why is it NEVER described as being conservative?
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
John Greene,
Do you think repeating yourself ad nauseum accomplishes anything? Please post a comment only once. Gee, thanks.
Agree with the fact that the major networks aren’t liberal media. Their CORPORATE media is the point I’ve been trying to make.
Money is great and necessary. Capitalism isn’t necessarily evil.
But SOME things, like freedom of speech, shouldn’t be up for sale. And when you virtually control all the information out there … that ain’t freedom, folks.
That’s why some kind of fairness doctrine is important to consider. No one is saying shut down Rush, I repeat. Just asking Rush to shut up for one second so somebody else can be heard. (Like people who post their message seven times. :D)
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
The fact that someone could actually ask the question “when was the last time you heard anyone describe media bias as other than liberal” … is evidence that you’re traveling in very limited circles. In fact, it’s not an accepted fact, but a bit of PROPAGANDA, which you’ve swallowed hook, line and sinker.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
I think HRC and BB are onto something, we can revive Err America AFTER university campuses, federal judgeships and all federal agencies, print and TV media positions are certified to be 50 percent filled by conservatives. Oh! DIVERSITY of THOUGHT?? NO WAY!!!!!!
Posted by: LibFreeZone | June 22, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Thomas Sowell said it best when he noted that the road to “fairness” is paved with despotism.
Posted by: Koi | June 22, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Gogi — Nice liberal try. I didn’t write “media bias,” it simply referred to “media.”
So I’ll ask again: When is the last time you heard someone — anyone — describe mainstream media as anything but liberal?
Are you or Hogfan going to answer the question or keep attacking the messenger?
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Hey Gogi,
Quit your whining. If you want air time, you have to come up with a product and compete like everyone else. Radio is not a charity case designed to make everyone feel loved and accepted, it’s a business.
Posted by: Dollar | June 22, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
There is only one question I have-
Why would there be any consideration regarding censorship and the fairness docterine in the first place?
NOW- before you go arguing the point, here is the answer- Because the liberals in this cannot seem to make a talk show host last for any meaningful period of time.
The field is always open, though. Stop trying to legislate censorship- you have the same freedoms as everyone else.
Posted by: Brandon | June 22, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Gogi, Using the IRS, and peoples FBI files against the people are a much greater threat to your civil Liberties than Bush, who has a Constitutional obligation to protect you from people who would like nothing more than to see you assume room temperature. We could go on and on about the war, but basically, I support it, and I’ve been there and done that. Besides, all the Democrats said it was the right thing to do, until they discovered that they would rather have power than the courage of their convictions. Bush is the one who has remained constant in all of this, whether you agree with him or not.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Read some of the comments and was sickened.
The Lefties will defend ANY IDEA, no matter how bad, as long as it comes from their team.
They care NOTHING about rights. ONLY about their side winning.
Everything else they’ve ever told you was a smokescreen. And they just exposed it here.
All that talk about the 1st Amendment was meaningless. As one Senator used to say, “Boob bait for the Bubbas.”
They are after power, period. Their envy-based socialism (now called Progressivism) sells well enough from time to time, and here they are. Gonna shut down the people who don’t toe their line.
It’s all about power. The lefties are SUPPORTING this outrage!
They never cared about rights. It was only convenient vocabulary for gaining power.
The veil has been pulled back. Not so much by the vile Hillary, but by her supporters here.
It’s ONLY about power. Get ready to use yours.
Posted by: kj | June 22, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
The fact that Gogi would read “media bias” out of the words “mainstream media” is quite telling of how we all tend to place our own biases on whatever we read, see, hear or do.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
All you have to do to confirm the liberal bias in the media is read the article by this clown. Can anyone actually read this and believe that he fairly presented the facts? Reporters should report the news, not interpret it for us.
Posted by: Paul | June 22, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Burt:
The only people I hear complaining about the liberal media are conservatives.
I never hear a peep from moderates.
And actually, my fellow liberals complain all the time that the mainstream media is conservative. They back that up with at least some proof, making the case that each is owned by conservative-leaning, conservative-donating individuals.
But the sheer fact that conservatives call the MSM liberal while liberals call the MSM conservative is the only proof I need to see that it’s in the middle.
By definition, it must be.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I have decided I would like to have a “Fairness Doctrine” for talk radio put into law. One caveat, the opposing viewpoint would have to be presented by the “attackee” his or her self, or by a representative appointed by that individual. If the “attackee” refuses to rebut, that would be his or her perogative. My hope would be that the individual would in fact choose to rebut, and the resulting discourse on the airwaves would only augment the original “attack” made by the radio disc jockey/talk show host. Often times, talk show hosts (at least in my city) make allegations or point out inconsistencies involving our local politicians, and never receive a response when they attempt to get the politician to respond on the air. With a “Fairness Doctrine” in place, the politician (or his/her representative) would be COMPELLED to go “on the record” by providing a balance to the disc jockey/talk show host’s statements. This would help hold the politician’s feet to the fire.
Posted by: Kevin | June 22, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I can’t take this anymore,you guys are lying no one is talking about stopping free speech.What would be wrong with places(like where I live)to get some liberal voices on radio that’s not in noway saying stop free speech.STOP LYING to make your point!!
Posted by: Lano | June 22, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Getting back to the Inhofe story, did you read Jake’s “Afternoon Update” above? Since many of you are so caught up in your Lib-Con debate, here’s what he said:
“AFTERNOON UPDATE: Even though Inhofe prefaced this story by saying “I was going over to vote the other day,” the Oklahoman this afternoon told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that this alleged conversation took place “about three years ago.”
That’s kind of weak.”
In other words, Inhofe lied through his teeth when he told the radio guy that this conversation happened “the other day”. And you all think he has ANY credibility on this now? Please…
This is such a non-story, and another embarrassment for the GOP that they didn’t need.
Posted by: DaTruth | June 22, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
“Unfortunately, all those “old people” you speak of, get out and vote. Talk Radio tells them to and how to vote.”
So does MTV and The New York times when they “endorse” a candidate. Maybe big brother should intervene in those mediums as well.
Democrats are Socialists, and Socialists like to stick Govt. into every aspect of our lives. This is why we have the second amendment.
Posted by: Rich | June 22, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Paul — That thought wasn’t lost on me. I wondered how long it would take mainstream media to come to the rescue of Boxer and Hillary. See there IS belance. It’s just that you have to go to three different media to get the whole story: Talk radio brought up one side, Drudge stirred the pot, and ABC came in with the other side’s angle on things.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Oh, come on, don’t mince words. What you were saying was that media was biased to be liberal. Please!
Oh. And it ain’t true, either. For example … ABC! Corporate owned and corporate censored.
By the way totally agree that using FBI and IRS to spy on us is a big threat. Only PAY ATTENTION. Bush is the guy who’s doing it. Ever hear of a little thing called The Patriot Act?
Got to run, really. It’s been fun.
G.
Posted by: Gogi | June 22, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
moderates are weaklings who believe in nothing.
they only yake up space are are too uninformed to be allowed to vote.
they could not even pass a basic
civics test.
moderates stand up and apologize for breathing. you stand for nothing!
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
The Democrats could easily oversee the airwaves and silence conservative talk shows. They have the power and the mandate to properly supervise our lives. We want to be safe, well fed and warm, not free.
Besides, conservative talk show hosts are big noisy gas bag frauds and like all conservatives will fight for nothing. They’ll squawk and huff and puff, but in the end, like all conservatives, they’ll fold.
Go ahead, implement the “fairness” doctrine. There’s nothing to fear. Show some guts.
Posted by: Dave Stone | June 22, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Geez, Hogfan. Is that the best you can do? Of course conservatives are the only people you hear complaining about liberal media. What do you think, the libs are going to say it’s too liberal?
Wow, I need to go have a drink after that one.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
PEOPLE, STOP WRITING HUGE, LONG ESSAYS…KEEP YOUR COMMENTS SHORT.
Posted by: Diana | June 22, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
This isn’t about freedom of speech, which I wholeheartedly support (yes, even pill-popping Rush). It is about the last congress enabling the consolidation of media ownership in fewer and fewer hands. What a coincidence that most of the owners in question were right wing conservatives. When all the communications channels are owned by a few individuals trying to promote a single party and ideaology, then freedom of speech is stifled and one less flickering flame of freedom is extinguished in this great nation. It is a very dark time for this nation.
Posted by: Dave | June 22, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Here’s a moderate Independent’s opinion: Liberals have ABC, NBC, CNBC,CBC, The New York Times, The LA Times, and just about every major newspaper as well as am radio programs. Conservatives have Fox News, talk radio, WSJ, and not much more.
But who cares?! People have a right to read and listen to whatever they want!
Restricting freedom of speech and choice is dangerous.
If someone feels threatened by talk radio, then they have something to hide — something they don’t feel they can win in a simple debate.
It’s stupid and silly to try to shut someone up because they don’t agree with you.
Oprah, Barbara, Katie, and just about every other tv talk show is liberal.
Who cares? Let people do what they want.
Hillary is an idiot for bringing this up (it’s been an issue with her for many years). I’m sure Obama is losing no sleep over Rush and Hannity. And I’m sure Rudy is losing no sleep over Chris Matthew or Blitzer…
So don’t tell your neighbors what they and or can not listen to!!
Posted by: hklm21 | June 22, 2007, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
“Go ahead, implement the “fairness” doctrine. There’s nothing to fear. Show some guts.”
So short minded. What happens the next time the Republicans win the majority and are then the ones regulating the airwaves? Do you know what a pendulum is?
Posted by: Rich | June 22, 2007, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
You right wingnuts have to eat humble pie on this story, and this story is the ONLY thing that matters, since everything flowed from it.
Your boy Inhofe now “clarified” his remarks by admitting this so-called conversation wasn’t made “the other day”. So, we know he lied right there. Zero credibility.
Any commentary about what the left wants about censorship, etc., are hereby rendered moot. Inhofe lied. You commenters now look like fools, since you played right into the phony story.
That DaTruth guy was right (below). There’s no truth on talk radio. Only fools who want to believe everything they hear, as long as it is inline with their beliefs. How ludicrous.
Posted by: John Wentfall | June 22, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
We wouldn’t be having this discussion if Rush Limbaugh’s daily audience wasn’t 22.5 million strong. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if Sean Hannity’s daily audience wasn’t 13 million strong. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if Neal Bortz’s daily audience wasn’t 10 million strong.
Need I go on?
No other media in this country today comes even close to those numbers.
Posted by: Burt | June 22, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Even if you discount what Inhofe said, Pelosi, Hoyer and Kucinich are ALSO pushing the Fairness Doctrine!
Posted by: Dollar | June 22, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
What a coincidence that most of the owners in question were right wing conservatives.
And what a coincidence that most major newspapers and Hollywood programming (tv talk shows) and news shows are owned by liberals!
SO WHAT!!??
Hillary is still a dangerous control freak. She is no more likeable than Bush.
Posted by: hklm21 | June 22, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Not to worry, Hillary will fill her gulags with these talk radio people as soon as she becomes president!
Posted by: Bernie | June 22, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
“You right wing have to eat humble pie on this story, and this story is the ONLY thing that matters, since everything flowed from it.
Your boy Inhofe now “clarified” his remarks by admitting this so-called conversation wasn’t made “the other day”. So, we know he lied right there. Zero credibility.”
The FACT is Democrats are pushing for the reintroduction of the FD. Go see what Kucinich is up to.
Posted by: Rich | June 22, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
I’m willing to say that Rush’s demographics are not “a bunch of old people.” The one telling the old how to vote is the AARP, controversial because they have a LIBERAL point of view. If anyone is “telling” people how to vote, it would be those folks filling up the buses at the public housing projects around the country and taking them to the poles on election day. And which party would that be?
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
disney fits into the modern corporation.
diversity, PC, multicultural.
dosney owner of ABC is among the most liberal of the liberals.
they line up with george bush, “THE FATHER OF THE NEW SLAVERY”. bush/kennedy/reid/mccain they all want slave labor for their corporate buddies.
their former employers willbe sued for back pay and disability and will pay more than if they had not refused to pay a decnt living wage to US citizens.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Burt:
I think you’ve already had one too many. As clearly as I made my point, it still flew right over your head. Here, let me give you a visual aid:
Left———Moderate———Right
So those on the Right complain that the mainstream media is to the Left.
And those on the Left complain that it’s to the Right.
Then, guess where that puts it? One guess.
Au revoir.
Posted by: Hogfan | June 22, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
“This is not a real issue at all! It is only gossip. Its fake controversy that was produced entirely by talk radio itself and the Drudge Report.”
This sounds like Neville Chamberlain saying that we achieved peace in our time before the forerunners of Hillary invaded France. All of these comments point to only one thing. Liberals cannot stand anyone who opposes their tunnelthink. Bill had opponents jailed, audited, harassed, etc. Hill will do the same and smirky lefties like Jake Tapper will ask Hillary if it is true and she will say of course not!
Posted by: Joe Bob bazootnik | June 22, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Hogfan,
You’re a moderate apparently. Just because both sides claim the media caters to the other doesn’t make it automatically moderate. That’s hardly a fact my mentally challenged friend. What are the facts? Print and television media gives 9 times more to liberal causes than conservative. The BBC did a study that found that it had a liberal bias. Those are facts genius.
Posted by: Greg1973 | June 22, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
I’m all for FAIRNESS (and truth), but FORCING radio stations to run programming for which there is NO AUDIENCE is censorship and facism.
Right now, EVERYONE has the freedom to listen (or not) to whatever programming is available.
You don’t like what’s on the radio? Fine, don’t listen.
Here, in the “greater Los Angeles area”, there are SEVERAL competing “conservative” talk-radio stations from which to choose.
I do NOT listen to ALL of them, and rarely to I listen to the same “personaltities” day after day (sometimes, frankly, their “topics” are so damn boring, I’d rather listen to NOTHING than listen to them).
Rush Limbaugh, for example, seems (for the most part) to be able to keep his program interesting enough to attract and KEEP a massive audience on a daily basis.
There is NOTHING – absolutely NOTHING – preventing ANYONE (Conservative OR Liberal) from being as popular as Rush other than their own abilities and the MESSAGE they present to their audiences.
It is precisely THIS that pisses off Liberals! You “stupid” people in the “audience” don’t know what you’re supposed to listen to (their message).
As to “Fairness” (legislation) – I’d like to see legislation calling for TRUTH in POLITICAL ADS (like there is for cereal commercials).
Posted by: wardmd | June 22, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
I don’t understand why when something seems to be in the least bit awry or unbalanced, people’s first reaction is “the gov’t needs to control this”. Why, o’ why, would government control EVER equate to making things better? There are three choices: let pinhead bureaucrats control the world, let greedy corporate titans do it, or give the reigns to the clueless masses. Not to be overly cynical, but my vote is for the latter, not only because I a AM member one of the clueless mass, but because that’s the right the constitution gave ME–not the federal government. We let them have *way* too much control over our lives, because too many of us assume things are better controlled from afar by politicians. Have some faith in yourselves and your fellow people to change the channel if you hear a word you don’t like, or to do your own research on what foods you should eat, etc. Federal Gov’t was never meant to be your mom. Power needs to go back to the states and the citizens.
Posted by: Jeremy | June 22, 2007, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
It’s about time Congress do something to stop Talk Radio from constantly poisoning political discourse against liberals. I’m not talking about the regulation of free speech, mind you – but merely a large government entity dictating the political content of radio broadcasts. Sure, Conservative radio is popular – but the public airwaves belong to the People, not radio listeners!
Posted by: Liberal Larry | June 22, 2007, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
The Nazi’s were right of The Commies but, still leftists. They were socialists. Keep in mind one thing. It is slavery.
Posted by: Peter Courtenay Stephens | June 22, 2007, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
The reporting about this “fairness” issue proves what is wrong with our discourse today. Nobody bothered to mention that nowhere in the recent study from progressive groups do they call for the government to step in and force fairness at all! They said the real answer lies through more liberal ownership of radio stations. If liberals buy more stations, they can put whatever programming they want on their channels.
The right-wing blogs and radio blowhards got a hold of this study and just concluded on their own that liberals are advocating censorship or government regulated fairness, but that is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. It doesn’t surprise me that they got the story completely wrong, but the mainstream media seems to be playing along, as usual.
Posted by: BrianS | June 22, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Wow! Such hateful and intolerant comments coming from some of the contributors here. Sounds a lot like the crap we here out of Al Jazeera and the ridiculous terorist manifestos that make their way to the evening news. You sure you guys are really Americans?
Posted by: Dave | June 22, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Air America is still around – and George Soros has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you wingnuts listened to anything other than O’Reilly and Hannity, you would know this. You’re phony arguments actually prove why we need more than one point of view on the public airwaves. We live in ignorance otherwise.
Posted by: Phil | June 22, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Regulate??? Congress needs to regulate themselves and leave talk radio alone! We are not a communist country yet!!!!!
Posted by: Dee Zumo | June 22, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Note on the Nazi thing. Adolph Hitler personally asked Dr. Ferdinand Porsche to develop a car for the German worker, that the government would let be paid back in installments. The total paid back well exceeded the value of the car, of course Another failed SOCIALIST scheme, for those fools who think conservatives are Nazi’s.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Well, when it comes to Hillary Clinton, my starting position will have to start from the view of her close friends and supporters. As David Geffen, Hollywood music bigwig, explained a couple of months back, “Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clinton's] do it with such ease, it’s troubling.”
Besides, it’s well documented that the Clinton’s, inc. Hillary, are completly connected and running the show behind this massive organized campaign to remove all voices from the public airwaves which might offer a different view. The effort is led by a shadow organization of the Clintons – notably by Center for American Progress, which is comprised of Clinton friends, former Clinton administration officials and staffers. Free speech, dissent, and debate on the issues is a good thing – let’s fight the supression of free expression and free speech by the radical lefists.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
national socialist democratic party,or in other words,the NAZI party, is not from the right side of politics. how many conservatives do you know who want to experiment on human embryo’s,take people’s gun’s and eliminate christianity? it was fashionable among academia in 1930′s germany to be a nazi. also, stalin was fooled pretty easy by hitler because stalin thought he was embracing his kind of government: killing everyone who disagrees with you. i would think that the far right would be a libertarian. the sanctity of human life is the defining point ,i think, of all these political arguments.want to fight? try and shut radio up.
Posted by: gary | June 22, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Concerning the issue at hand… I am a strong believer in freedom of speech, whatever the speech may be. But media ownership has been consolidated into fewer and fewer hands over the past few years, thanks to the past Congress. Wehn those few hands are more concerned with promoting a particular ideaology or agenda, then you start to see more gate-keeping in what you see. Therein is the problem here (Think… Rupert Murdock). We need to bring back the laws limiting how many channels of media and how much can be owned and controlled by one owner. Freedom of speech means your news is not filtered and is truly fair and balanced (without just claiming). Of course there are going to be biases. I would rather not see them quite as blatant.
Posted by: dave | June 22, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Just look at the name…’Fairness” doctrine.
You can easily see the Libs out there stamping their feet in protest like 3 year olds crying “It’s not fair!”.
Get a product and a message people wanna hear Libs. The reason the vast majority of talk radio is conservative is because the CRAP being pushed by “Air America” and other Liberal talk radio is 2 fold. “Blame Bush” and “Blame America”.
People aren’t buyin’ what your selling because your message is too depressing to listen to for more than 30 seconds.
We don’t need the Federal government proping you up.
Posted by: Riteaidbob | June 22, 2007, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
“We need to bring back the laws limiting how many channels of media and how much can be owned and controlled by one owner.
Posted by: dave | Jun 22, 2007 6:04:54 PM”
If people don’t want liberal crap like Air Amerika (yes, with a ‘k’ comrade), why should we want laws so that you can try to force it down our throats?
Posted by: SlipSter01 | June 22, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
“The airwaves belong to the People”???
OK… So the US gov’t. should introduce the People’s Radio Network then?
They did, just twist the letters, you get NPR! Free speech is free speech. Make an exception and it is not free speech. Keep your greedy hands off my Bill of Rights!
Posted by: James | June 22, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
If too much power of ownership is not in Liberal hands, the remedy is not talking about how much conservative speech is on the air. The fact that this is the primary point being made by Mr. Penetta, a former Clinton operative, uses his report to criticize conservative speech shows EXACTLY what the Stalinist goals are here.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
There is no free market in talk radio. In Tucson, for example, there is 56 hours of right-wing propaganda Monday through Friday compared to only 10 hours for truth-telling liberal radio.
From this great disparity, you’d think that Tucson was a solidly conservative town, but you would be wrong. Here are the voter registration numbers:
DEM 95,681 REP 56,313 LBT 2,037 GRN 994 OTHER 63,563
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
For the lack of a better term, I am what some would call a “middle-of-the-road” conservative, though I despise that label. I do happen to enjoy the banter on the cable news programs, and though I often find myself disagreeing with him, I do like O’Reilly (enter boo and hiss sound effects). But for many who have posted here that claim that they can’t find blatant liberalism on cable news, you need to look no further than Keith Olbermann on MSNBC. I actually like Keith, I was a fan of his since his sports days long ago on ESPN and I hear he’ll be doing some work with ESPN with their football broadcasts this season so I’m interested to see how he does. My point is that I enjoy to take in both sides of the political arguments, and if you tune in to Olbermann, you’ll get your fair share of “liberal media.” I don’t care for his blatant Bush-bashing every single program, but I can put up with him just so that I can see what the “other side” is saying, and his show is somewhat entertaining as well. And when I get sick enough of either O’Reilly or Olbermann, I simply don’t watch – amazingly simple, isn’t it.
Posted by: Paul, a US Marine | June 22, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Hillary has been trying to sink talk radio, especially Rush, since he helped defeat HillaryCare. This is pitiful reporting by ABC. Where is the question to Boxers rep about how Boxer does feel about talk radio and what if any proposal does she have in mind. Liberal talk shows fail because the hosts suck, its not the message, there is clearly an audience out there for liberal talk. Rush is the model, say what you will about him, he is a brilliant broadcaster, the 12 million people who tune in each day would feel the same. Al Franken and the current crop at Air America and elsewhere are terrible. The left hates Rush so much and has such a warped view of him that they think he is some idiot who plays to peoples hatred and other less desirable feelings. So then they think, Hey, if this dunce here can do it anyone can, then when nobody listens they run all over crying about how its unfair, and since these are the people who see the corporate boogyman behind everything they blame that, and how do you fix something like that legislation, its pathetic.
Posted by: Randy | June 22, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Of course the answer is simple, first kill the messenger even if the precise words or the precise date is correct or not. Liberals think it is “unfair” to quote anything they say (except praise). Are we back to defining the word “is”? (Remember Bubba?).
Radio in general was almost dead until Rush came along, and gave it the shot it needed. Say what people want to hear and they will listen. Say anthing the Liberals want to say, and NOBODY LISTENS (Except in NYC LA and SanFran., and then the audience is pitifully small). The Liberal objective is not fairness, it is to shut off anything the Liberals FEAR! Basically, it is TRUTH they fear.
Posted by: Richard Manning | June 22, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
” The left hates Rush so much and has such a warped view of him that they think he is some idiot who plays to peoples hatred and other less desirable feelings.”
Why did Fats Limbaugh get canned from his football gig?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Fairness doctrine? Talk radio hosts invite democrats and liberals on their shows all the time and they refuse to come on to defend their viewpoints.
So the left is whining about talk radio again? LOL It’s just been documented that they’ve got 90% of journalists in the media donating to democrats and lib causes and they’re crying foul about some talk radio. Why? Because in the market place of ideas theirs fail!!!!!
Liberals can’t hold up any stats or facts to show liberalism works that’s why you can’t hold an intelligent conversation or debate about their policies and ideology.
Lib logic 101: Save the seals, kill the human babies… punish hard workers (ie the rich) and reward irresponsible behavior (ie out of wedlock births)… nationalized healthcare systems are failing all over the world and what do they want to do for us? nationalize our healthcare!… and on and on.
After welfare reform the republicans pushed through in the mid 90s teenage pregnancy rates went down for the first time in over 40 years!!! Gee imagine that people were responsible for their own behaviour and they actually responded.
Every state that’s enacted a concealed carry law has seen the crime rate go down. Liberals want more gun control laws that don’t do jack!
The tax cuts have resulted in record tax revenue and the democrats still harp their class warfare mantra of raising taxes on the rich.
we capture terrorists and get information out of them that saved thousands of lives and they want to give them all an aclu lawyer and falafel!
the libs and dems say they will be big tough guys in the war on terror… but they’re afraid to go on fox news and talk to brit hume! LOL the reason they’re afraid to go on Fox or talk radio is because their policy stances will be literally dismembered when logic is appied and they know it.
talk radio show hosts are saying now that they invite liberals and especially democrat politicians to come on their shows all the time to defend their policies and the lib ideology and they ALL politely refuse. why is that? i’d love to hear nazi pelosi or hitlery clinton come on rush limbaugh or michael savage and defend their ideas. what’s the big deal hitlery? let’s sit down… let’s chat… let’s have a conversation. surely if you’re confident with your positions you should have no problem defending them right? LOL
liberals and democrats say they’re for energy independence but they won’t let us drill anywhere or build any nuclear power plants…. for the past 30 years!!!!
they say their for alternative energy such as wind power… but not in their backyard!! (see ted kennedy blocking wind turbines for years because that’s where he likes to sail… that is until the mass state legislature finally overode him just last year)
It’s an endless litany of insanity and there’s no logical way to defend it. This is why no one listens to air america not because of some mystical kabal out there keeping them from being heard.
PEOPLE CAN SMELL BULLSH**T WHEN THEY HEAR IT (pun intended)… EVEN ON THE RADIO.
Journalists donate to dems and lib causes 9 to 1… no bias here. And they’re saying there’s some vast right wing conspiracy in the media keeping THEIR viewpoints from being heard! Now that’s funny!!!!!
So since liberals can’t win in the market place of ideals they’ll do a back run through the courts and use legislation to attempt to silence the opposition. (Hugo Chavez would be proud!)
I really hope they try it. I don’t think these morons know who they’re messing with because if they do attempt this they’ll motivate the conservative base in this country like they’ve never seen before. This will make gay marriage look like a picnic as far as getting the conservative vote out is concerned.
Furthermore makes me laugh out loud that libs are now calling themselves “progressives”! You can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig! And of course the inference is that if you’re not progressive… you’re regressive.
Nice try losers! You’re not fooling anyone. It might work on your simpleton uneducated “looking for a hand-out” democrat constituency but it’s not working on the talk radio crowd so stuff it!
Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Ever try to take a toy away from a kid? They may not have played with the toy for a long time but as soon as someone else threatens it, the kid shifts gears.
It’s the same way with revoking people’s rights. All of a sudden people will realize they are about to lose the right to speak out loud the things they feel and watch the backlash.
People are very predictable in their unpredictability! Curiosity causes it … The sign says “wet paint, don’t touch” so you touch it. Rebellion causes it. Challenge causes it… Brer Rabbit begs “Don’t throw me in the briar patch,” so guess where Brer Bear throws him? (Exactly where Brer Rabbit wanted to go!)
So if you want to keep talk radio, go ahead and threaten to kill it. We’ll find another way to communicate our thoughts to others of a like mind. THEN we’ll see you at the original “Term Limits” … the ballot box.
Posted by: ExitRamp | June 22, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Reporters must be licensed and regulated. 89% of reporters financially support the Democrat party and thus cannot be objective.
Posted by: Machine Gun Kerry | June 22, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
“LOL It’s just been documented that they’ve got 90% of journalists”
No it hasn’t. YOU didn’t read the article because it clearly states that many of the contributors to Democrats AREN’T reporters or editors.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
“89% of reporters financially support the Democrat party”
That is a right-wing LIE.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Leftists like free speech unless it’s given to those with views other than their’s.
Posted by: Jim Silberman | June 22, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Trent Lott says ” talk radio is running the country”. If this is the case what exactly is congress doing? I find it amazing that the same people that want to destroy the First Amendment and complain about talk radio, are the same people who want to grant amnesty to illegals and grant Geneva Convention rights to terrorists.
Posted by: James | June 22, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Anyone who wants to hear a Liberal voice/point of view on the radio need only press the scan button on their radio. I suggest starting at the LEFT end of an analog FM radio, for digital radio try 88.1 MHz FM. If you travel, as I do, you will find NPR and its programming all over the dial all day long. I can go out to my car now and hit NPR programming on 10 stations before making it the local POP music station. I can only get RUSH on AM radio for 3 hours.
I would suggest AIR AMERICA, but doesn’t seem to make it out of NYC. Wonder why?
NO MARKET FOR IT! Why do you fear the MARKET PLACE? Do YOU fear yourself? YOU are the market place.
If you want a government that controls everything for you then I may I suggest several Middle Eastern countries. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind some undocumented immigrates from the USA, who just happened to agree that The U.S. is the great satan.
WOW from Radio to Satan in one stream of thought.
Thank you, come again.
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
“Liberals can’t hold up any stats or facts to show liberalism works …”
LBJ’s Great Society programs reduced the poverty rate by 40%.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
LOL… oooohhhh so it’s 90% of everyone that works in the media not just the journalists. that’s a real gotcha their dude. could you imagine in your wildest dreams what the wah wah cry baby libs would be doing and saying if 90% of media personnel were contributing to republicans and conservative causes!!!! what a moron… give me a break.
Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
I wonder what the people at ABC News and Jack Tapper think when they read these whacked out comments from the right wing fringe 26 percenters.
Especially the deluded lunatics that say that the Nazis were a bunch of “Libruls”.
You can’t get any more deluded than to say that.
Presently Germany is having quite a problem with today’s Nazis, who are engaging in race based hate crimes, and violently attacking “Libruls” of all stripes, in a similar manner to their American right wing counterparts.
Posted by: OxyCon | June 22, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
“Why do you fear the MARKET PLACE?”
The market place is fine but we don’t have a free market here.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
How rich is this? Everyone is conveniently forgetting about the major
T.V. Networks AND the major news outlets across the country? You’d find that they have a OVERWHELMINGLY LEFT WING/DEMOCRAT/LIBERAL bias! A survey just came out about how journalists contributed to Democrats at a rate of 9 to 1 over Republicans?
I’d say that pretty much nullifies ANY point claiming Conservatives have a “unfair advantage” on the media market. Quite frankly, CONSERVATIVES ARE JUST MORE ENTERTAINING TO LISTEN TO THAN THE ‘I hate America’ crowd (the Left).
By the way. You people on the Left should get to know the Constitution! Trying to control talk radio through legislation is a blatant violation of Article 1, Freedom Of Speech! If any elected official supports this whole media fairness doctrine idea with legislation , they can expect to suffer the consequences!!!
What’s wrong with the Left? Middle America would like to know!
MaverickCoast
Posted by: MaverickCoast | June 22, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
“Liberals can’t hold up any stats or facts to show liberalism works …”
TOTAL PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYMENT
SEASONALLY ADJUSTED
(IN THOUSANDS)
REAGAN + BUSH I
JAN 1981 74671
DEC 1992 90540
NET == + 15869
BUSH II
JAN 2001 111636
MAR 2007 115426
NET +3790
TOTAL RAYGUN, BUSH I AND BUSH II == +19659
CLINTON!!!
JAN 1993 90824
DEC 2000 111643
NET == + 20819
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
“You’d find that they have a OVERWHELMINGLY LEFT WING/DEMOCRAT/LIBERAL bias! ”
Only an extremist could believe that.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Nazi’s = Socialists
Socialists = Liberals
Do the math.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“punish hard workers (ie the rich)”
Like Paris Hilton?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Steve J, Unemployment under Bush- Historic Lows.
Stock Market- Record highs.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
“Nazi’s = Socialists
Socialists = Liberals
Do the math.”
Another poster who hates History. The Nazis outlawed all the socialist partiers.
I guess Mill was correct:
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.
John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 – 1873)
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
“Steve J, Unemployment under Bush- Historic Lows.”
Another LIE from an ignoramus.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
It’s not that Liberals are stupid, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.
Ronald Reagan
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Don’t have a free market?
You would not a free market if it hit you in the face.
When you do free get anything free (ie trade) you complain aboutit. Its not enough. Its not what I wanted. BOO hoo
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
“It’s not that Liberals are stupid, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.
Ronald Reagan”
Why did Reagan give arms to Islamic terrorists?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
“the democrats still harp their class warfare mantra of raising taxes on the rich.”
THE SAGE OF OMAHA SPEAKS
Warren Buffett was on Lou Dobbs’ show and had some interesting things to say. Here’s perhaps the most famous comment from this interview:
DOBBS: In point of fact, the Congressional Budget Office, which is considered to be the bipartisan objective standard of such things, has research that suggests that the deficit in Social Security would be only 0.4 percent of our GDP over 75 years as compared to the other large deficits percentages that associated with trade in the budget deficit. Do you have, we’re talking about fixing the fixes we’re in, a quick answer for Social Security?
BUFFETT: I personally would increase the taxable base above the present $90,000. I pay very little in the way of Social Security taxes because I make a lot more than $90,000. And the people in my office pay the full tax. We’re already edging up the retirement age a bit. And I would means test … I get a check for $1,700 or $1,900 or something every month. I’m 74. And I cash it. But I’ll eat without it.
DOBBS: That’s a progressive idea. In other words, the rich people would pay more?
BUFFETT: Yeah. The rich people are doing so well in this country. I mean, we never had it so good.
DOBBS: What a radical idea.
BUFFETT: It’s class warfare, my class is winning, but they shouldn’t be.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Fix right wing radio talk? Let ‘em. Don’t forget when Hillary or the legislator tries to fix something it gets worse. That means right wing talks gets “worser.”
How much worse has immigration got since 1986 fix?
How much higher is cable tv?
How much more is gasoline, and how much more gasoline is there, after all the CAFE standards of yore?
Posted by: jim | June 22, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
there’s a reason you’re a lifelong democrat Ahmed… it’s because you don’t know what the #$#% you’re talking about! the first amendment is exactly what allows us to insult millions of people! the first amendment doesn’t say “the right to freedom of speech… unless of course it might offend someone” LOL here’s an insult for you. you’re an idiot. now that was fun first amendment style! LOL
“As a life long Democrat, I think we, as a country, need to revisit the 1st Amendmend. It was not designed to allow millions of people to be insulted and offended with hate-filled insensitive speech.
Posted by: Ahmed | Jun 22, 2007 1:13:20 PM”
Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
“we capture terrorists and get information out of them that saved thousands of lives and they want to give them all an aclu lawyer and falafel!”
If you hate the ACLU, you hate America.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
“How much more is gasoline, and how much more gasoline is there, after all the CAFE standards of yore?”
I love how you combined stupidity and ignorance in one sentence.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
DIFFUSE -
Unemployment under Clinton was 3.9% at one point.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Why do Liberals want to disarm the people?
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Clinton and Boxer are liars. Of course they were discussing this topic, and probably in a more sinister fashion than anyone suspects. Keep in mind, these are not “smart & strong women” we’re talking about. They’re dyed-in-the-wool socialists and anti-American activists.
Posted by: Charles Miller | June 22, 2007, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
“since liberals can’t win in the market place of ideals ”
1) It’s “ideas”
2) We’ve been winning since 1600 A.D.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
“Your boy Inhofe now “clarified” his remarks by admitting this so-called conversation wasn’t made “the other day”. So, we know he lied right there. Zero credibility.”
INHOFE is unfit to hold public office.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Ignore Steven J. He’s obviously a leftist who won’t budge. Let him rip into Republicans all he wants. Remember, in the LONG run politics is a battle of ideas. His shrieking hatred only works for a little while.
Just remember:
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” -Winston Churchill
“As for me, I am deeply a democrat; this is why I am in no way a socialist. Democracy and socialism cannot go together. You can’t have it both ways… socialism is a new form of slavery.” -Alexis de Tocqueville, Notes for a Speech on Socialism, 1848.
Posted by: Mcgleeze | June 22, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
thanks for the grammar lesson. winning since the 1600s??? yeah right. political correctness, class warfare, socialism, and appeasement our enemies is what’s made this country great. i stand corrected
Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Boxer and Clinton can prove this never happened. Pass legislation protecting talk radio forever.
Posted by: Thurston | June 22, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
When will Inhofe be delivering his apology?
Posted by: Andrew | June 22, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
The average unemployment rate for Clinton’s first 6 years was 5.58%. Today’s numbers mean the average unemployment rate for Bush’s first 6 years is… 5.29%. Oops.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Steve J. “Why did Reagan give arms to Islamic terrorists?”
I suspect that when he came into office, and saw that it was good that Jimmy Carter started channeling arms and funding the freedom fighters in Afghanistan, that he decided to continue the effort. The imperialist USSR had invaded a proud and independent country, not in the mold of freeing it, but rather simply to extend it’s arm and to get a gas and oil route to the sea.
Unfortunatly, as with elsewhere – as Sen. Byrd said in 1996 – it is only the US that will come to the aid of contries in Europe (well, he called them, “that sorry old part of Europe”) and elsewhere when threatened by insiders or outsiders.
Further, it is very unfortunate that after the USSR withdrew from Afghanistan, Bush #1 and the world bodies did nothing to fill the void.
Bill Clinton continued the disgracful art of looking the other way in Afghnaistan, as in Rwanda and the Congo (where millions died), as Afghanistan fell deeper into chaos, and even less (other than give up on his efforts to build a pipeline across Afghanistan – yes, it was Clinton also)as the Taliban took control of much of the country, and violated all human rights issues which we stand for. Some 60,000 Afghan citizens died, hundreds of thousands were injured, millions fled, and we did nothing while the “terrorists” took up camp, declared a holy Jihad on the US, telling us that all US civilians, women and children were targets, that they would come and get us, and that they were building an network of operative cells all over the globe.
Can’t help but wish that Reagan had done even more.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
LBJ’s Great Society programs increased the poverty across the board and led to the increasing destruction of the black family.
Posted by: rlynn | June 22, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Steve J., Since I supported my point that unemployment is lower under Bush than Clinton, and provided a link, I’m waiting for yours. In the meantime, if by being right, I shouldn’t own a firearm or be allowed to vote, maybe you should just go commit yourself, before your neighbors have to.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
“I suspect that when he came into office, and saw that it was good that Jimmy Carter started channeling arms and funding the freedom fighters in Afghanistan, that he decided to continue the effort. ”
I was referring to Raygun gaving arms to Iranian-backed terrorists, not the resistance in Afghanistan. Remember the Iran-Contra scandal? Remember Weinberg, then SECDEF, getting 5 felony indictments?
Remember “ketchup is a vegetable”?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
The Nazi’s called themselves National Socialists, and banned other Socialist Parties so their strength would not be deluded. Wish I could stay, I’m out.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 22, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
“Steve J., Since I supported my point that unemployment is lower under Bush than Clinton”
Go to http://www.bls.gov and look at the monthly unemployment rates during the 2nd half of Clinton’s presidency.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
FORBES: CLINTON BEST AT ECONOMY
Forbes Magazine declares the Clinton was the best of all 10 post-war presidents at handling the economy:
Presidents And Prosperity
Dan Ackman, 07.20.04, 3:00 PM ET
Clinton’s two terms in office (1993-2001) were marked by strong numbers for gross domestic product (GDP) and employment growth and especially for deficit reduction. His overall ranking puts him first among the ten postwar presidents–ahead of Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy and Reagan, who were tightly grouped behind the 42nd president and recent autobiographer.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Thanks to the First Ammendment, Congress *CANNOT* “control” talk radio – nor indeed should they. And as idiotic as most talk radio is (especially the right-wing blow) it is in no way “running America”. Dick Cheney may think he is personally running America – and he may be dangerously or even impeachably close to the truth – but talk radio is merely enriching its practitioners and making its listeners stupid(er).
Posted by: JLS | June 22, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
This sounds a lot like what the communists and socialsts have done in the USSR, China, and Cuba. It sounds like what is now happening in N. Korea, Iran and others. With Clinton’s past rantings about socialized medicine, child care, and it taking a village – I’m sold. She is either a communist or a socialist. She is not a ‘progressive’ and can’t hold her hand on any book and take an oath to protect and defend the constitution – she has proven she can’t do that. Apparently Boxer can’t either.
Posted by: AndyCandy | June 22, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
“She [Clinton] is either a communist or a socialist. She is not a ‘progressive’ and can’t hold her hand on any book and take an oath to protect and defend the constitution”
More proof that right-wing talk radio creates imbeciles. As Justice Holmes noted, the Constitution does not favor any particular economic system.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
RE: Clinton economy/jobs v. Bush economy/jobs
Look folks, without praising (hard to do) or trashing either of them, everyone needs to understand what the economists really understand – both sides keep putting way too much credit and/or blame on both.
As the progressive (very liberal) economist Dean Baker said:
The inflated stock market has created enormous distortions in the economy, the ramifications of which will only be apparent when stock prices return to more normal levels. If the market falls 50 percent and loses $10 trillion of wealth in a correction, it’s going to be very hard to avoid a recession. A lot of these dot.coms are worth a corner lemonade stand and are putting real companies out of business. What are you going to tell people who lose much of their retirement savings in their 401K when there’s a downturn?” Today, Baker said: “The decline in the stock market was an entirely predictable event for anyone familiar with basic arithmetic, even if the exact timing could not be known in advance. The nation’s political leaders chose to ignore the stock market bubble and instead focused their attention on distant and relatively minor problems like potential shortfalls in the Social Security trust fund in 30 or 40 years or the reappearance of budget deficits in a decade or two. As a result, millions of families have seen their dreams of a secure retirement or their children’s college education vanish with the stock market bubble. The level of negligence of the nation’s political leaders [during the late 90's] in ignoring the stock bubble exceeds anything since the days of Herbert Hoover.”
The booming economic bubble that created so much wealth and jobs during the late 90′s, was built on the back of corporate and accounting greed and fraud. When it’s historic collapse began in early 2000 (actually, most economic indicators were already in deep reversal mode) all of the recent new jobs, the health insurance that went with it, and the savings of millions of Americans would be lost.
The same is true for the reversal of the newly created budget surpluses. Bush did not cause the return to massive deficits, rather they were set in motion before he ever got the nomination. Later – as in 2003 forward, his tax cuts and war costs as well as huge increases in spending education, medicaid, Medicare, Veterans, and National Security (and the D’s keep pounding to spend even more on all of these and more)did indeed pile on top of the deficits, as they also helped spur the economy back into recovery. Yes, there one can argue to what degree, and at what cost – but not if. By far the largest portion of the shift from projected surpluses to deficits were caused by what Bush inherited, rather than by his actions.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
JLS writes ” talk radio is merely enriching its practitioners and making its listeners stupid(er).”
The problem is that the ignorant voters created by right-wing talk radio hurts America.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Congress needs to keep their hands off the communications media because they will surely make a mess of it. The last thing we need is those dolts monitoring and controlling our information channels and deciding what we should say or hear.
Posted by: rplat | June 22, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
deny, deny, deny. that makes the truth go away. where else have we heard that in a clinton administration? think she can still spin the old magic? just wait and see if she gets elected.
Posted by: gus | June 22, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
Off Track, but IMPORTANT:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission?
i.e. REFUSE TO SWEAR TO GOD to tell the TRUTH to the Commission and the USA?
Because of their involvement with the Bin Ladens and the SAUDI TERRORIST FINANCIERS?
Yup…
Come on, supporters of TRAITOR Bush…
BRING IT ON!!!
Posted by: Anonymous | June 22, 2007, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
please don’t make me defend bush.
but his testimoney before that politically vacant stage called 911
commission was a comedy. gore should have been a questioned by and not a member of the commission.
clinton and his puppet podesta did just what cheney and his puppet bush did.
one big difference. bush did not send “HIS” berger to the nat’l archives to steal documents for his testimony.
why is samuel berger not sharing a jail cell with ‘scooter’. reason libby is in jail is because 60 yo men don’t use name ‘scooter’ if they are sane.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
So, when Congress is done with radio, do you think they will go after the comment section of webpage articles or blogs?
What will you say and do then Steve J.?
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Oh, come on. What a load. Why did Clinton’s National Security advisor steal and destroy secret documents just before his testimony in front of the Commission. By the way, both the Co-chairs were quite complimentary of both Bush and Clinton’s time. I don’t remember that Clinton testified under oath, either. Rice did, after a bit of a power struggle.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
BRB, Steve J. for you response. Got to preheat the oven for my pizza
(TALK OFF TRACK, BUT IMPORTANT)
Come in Mr. Bush goes to HELL.
Thought you guys didn’t believe in HELL. HMM?!?
I stand corrected?
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Wow, you people take blogs seriously? Get a life.
Posted by: Norman | June 22, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
But this is the life I’ve chosen.
Thank you very little NORMAN
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
OFCOUSE,HILLARY CANT REMEMBER SAYING ANYTHING!…SHE HAS SELECTIVE MEMORRY..REMEMBER?..SHE IS KNOWN TO LIE.
BESIDES WOULD SHE EVER ADMIT TO SAYING ANYTHING.. !NO WAY JOSE!
Posted by: PAT | June 22, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Next you’re going to tell me Santa isn’t real and doesn’t deliver all those gifts in ONE night.
POP … my bubble has burst
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Steve J.
Still not impressive (besides, I’d imagine that you’ve used the other shallow talking point, as well). They gave arms and aid to both sides in the Iraq/Iran war, which was begun during the Carter administration with our blessings – because of the anger over the Hostage crisis. Some 1,000,000 lives would be lost. All of our recent (let’s just start w/JFK) administrations have found themselves on the wrong side, or on both sides of numerous conflicts.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Difficult to say today, if that one ending in a draw was the best outcome, would you not agree?
And for the record, the US supplied only a very small % (all single digit %’s) of the arms or materials to make; conventional, chemical, nuclear, etc. to Iraq. Almost all of it came from those nice folks over seas.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Clintoons lie under oath, Bill lies with all the Jews in NY, Hillary lies about Bills’ lying with NY Jews, Oaths are what Hillary uses when Bill lies about his lying.
I wouldn’t necessarily wash my hands after playing with the puppy, but I would wash and sterilize my hands after shaking hands with the Clintoons.
Posted by: albee | June 22, 2007, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
GH,
Don’t side track them.
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
RE: SANDY BERGER
The wingnuts still cling to the LIE that Berger destroyed originals.
Berger’s Plea
Wall Street Journal. (Eastern edition). New York, N.Y.: Apr 6, 2005. pg. A.10
So we called Justice Department Public Integrity chief prosecutor Noel Hillman, who assured us that Mr. Berger did not deny any documents to history. “There is no evidence that he intended to destroy originals,” said Mr. Hillman. “There is no evidence that he did destroy originals. We have objectively and affirmatively confirmed that the contents of all the five documents at issue exist today and were made available to the 9/11 Commission.”
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Isn’t it amazing what a 10 year old can do with a computer when unsupervised?
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
“Still not impressive (besides, I’d imagine that you’ve used the other shallow talking point, as well). They gave arms and aid to both sides in the Iraq/Iran war”
5 (five) felony indictments of the SECDEF aren’t impressive? What happened to the “rule of law” you clowns bleat about so often?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Let’s see now. The world’s smartest woman didn’t know about Gennifer Flowers, the Rose Law Firm billing records, Monica Lewinsky (hell Jake, even you knew Monica Lewinsky, right?!), Travelgate, the raw FBI files and the guy who requested and received them, Whitewater, cattle futures, etc. but knows for sure a simple conversation never took place.
Yep, I believe her. [/sarcasm off]
Posted by: Joe Blow | June 22, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Let’s see now. The world’s smartest woman didn’t know about Gennifer Flowers, the Rose Law Firm billing records, Monica Lewinsky (hell Jake, even you knew Monica Lewinsky, right?!), Travelgate, the raw FBI files and the guy who requested and received them, Whitewater, cattle futures, etc. but knows for sure a simple conversation never took place.
Yep, I believe her. [/sarcasm off]
Posted by: Joe Blow | June 22, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
NOTE: justice department has no integrity so how is it possible to have a public integrity section.
unless your dictionart says integity is a homonym for corruption.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Dear David (see his posting below), You’re exactly the reason why Democrats and liberals are so deathly afraid of talk radio. Blacks voted 91% for Democrats in the last election. Saddam Hussein used to only get 95% of the vote and he actually used to hunt down and kill people that voted against him! Go figure on that for a bit.
The reason Air America sucks is because they can’t defend their logic or their arguments. The reason that people prefer to listen to Rush is because he presents his case in a logical manner and then we can decide for ourselves whether or not we agree with him or not and even if we do happen to disagree with him we can still understand where he’s coming from as intelligent “thinking” human beings.
This drives liberals and Democrats crazy because talk radio encourages people to think for themselves instead of just going into the booth to press the button with a big D next to it in the next election like a bunch of mindless sheep.
Forty years of Democrat leaders in our inner cities and elsewhere have done the black community no favors and the evidence is around for all of us to see with our own eyes the damage they’ve done with their victimization and government dependence ideology as well as their welfare state mentality that rewards irresponsible behavior instead of discouraging it.
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“I am a non-partisan 32-year-old black man who has never voted in an election and I can honestly tell you why conservative radio works and the liberals’ attempt at radio recently hasn’t. It’s truly simple: Al Franken’s show was never interesting or funny. He can be hilarious — but his show was crap.I can’t stand liberals or republicans — BUT if someone put me on an island and forced me to have to listen to either Air America or Rush/Hannity — I’d choose the latter. It’s simply more informative and entertaining.
Posted by: David | Jun 22, 2007 1:51:35 PM”
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Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Have to ask, Steve J. do you know what a Wingnut is?
“I did not think that word means what you think it means”
-Inigo Montoya
Posted by: Daniel | June 22, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Dear David (see his posting below), You’re exactly the reason why Democrats and liberals are so deathly afraid of talk radio. Blacks voted 91% for Democrats in the last election. Saddam Hussein used to only get 95% of the vote and he actually used to hunt down and kill people that voted against him! Go figure on that for a bit.
The reason Air America sucks is because they can’t defend their logic or their arguments. The reason that people prefer to listen to Rush is because he presents his case in a logical manner and then we can decide for ourselves whether or not we agree with him or not and even if we do happen to disagree with him we can still understand where he’s coming from as intelligent “thinking” human beings.
This drives liberals and Democrats crazy because talk radio encourages people to think for themselves instead of just going into the booth to press the button with a big D next to it in the next election like a bunch of mindless sheep.
Forty years of Democrat leaders in our inner cities and elsewhere have done the black community no favors and the evidence is around for all of us to see with our own eyes the damage they’ve done with their victimization and government dependence ideology as well as their welfare state mentality that rewards irresponsible behavior instead of discouraging it.
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“I am a non-partisan 32-year-old black man who has never voted in an election and I can honestly tell you why conservative radio works and the liberals’ attempt at radio recently hasn’t. It’s truly simple: Al Franken’s show was never interesting or funny. He can be hilarious — but his show was crap.I can’t stand liberals or republicans — BUT if someone put me on an island and forced me to have to listen to either Air America or Rush/Hannity — I’d choose the latter. It’s simply more informative and entertaining.
Posted by: David | Jun 22, 2007 1:51:35 PM”
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Posted by: Mike O'Brien | June 22, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
I haven’t heard anything about this “Fairness Doctrine” being applied to newspapers and television. Is this because they are already more than fair to the liberal viewpoint. How about “Fairness” by college professors, who can stifle conservative students with unfair grading practices.
How about “Fairness” in the global warming debate. How about “Fairness” to unborn children. This is America, not the USSR.
Posted by: Craig | June 22, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
NOTE: justice department has no integrity so how is it possible to have a public integrity section.
unless your dictionart says integity is a homonym for corruption.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
RAYGUN SOLD ARMS TO TERRORISTS
(From the FINAL REPORT OF THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR IRAN/CONTRA MATTERS by Lawrence E. Walsh)
These excerpts are from Part I Iran/contra: The Underlying Facts
What Raygun said:
On June 18, 1985, President Reagan made a public statement that would prove to be ironic in light of the arms-for-hostages shipments that were to occur over the next eighteen months:
“Let me further make it plain to the assassins in Beirut and their accomplices, wherever they may be, that America will never make concessions to terrorists — to do so would only invite more terrorism — nor will we ask nor pressure any other government to do so. Once we head down that path there would be no end to it, no end to the suffering of innocent people, no end to the bloody ransom all civilized nations must pay.”
What Raygun did:
The precise date of President Reagan’s decision is unclear. It was no later than August 23, 1985. On that day, President Reagan wrote in his diary that he had received a “secret phone” call from McFarlane, that “a man high up in the Iranian govt.” believed he could deliver “all or part of the 7 kidnap victims.” President Reagan further noted that he “had some decisions to make about a few points — but they were easy to make — now we must wait.” 38 According to McFarlane, the President approved a commitment to replenish Israel’s supply of missiles for those sent to Iran. McFarlane conveyed President Reagan’s approval to Kimche. There was no notification to Congress.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
“I haven’t heard anything about this “Fairness Doctrine” being applied to newspapers and television.”
That’s because you don’t understand what the Fairness Doctrine is. Look it up before making another ignorant post.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
“How about “Fairness” in the global warming debate.”
How about you paying attention to the National Academies of Science and the American Association for the Advancement of Science instead of ignorant talk radio gasbags?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
talk talk talk indeed
Posted by: cordelia525 | June 22, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
“Liberals don’t get their way so they circumvent the FREE market”
1) It’s not a free market.
2) The PUBLIC owns the airwaves.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
What liberals are trying to do is Ithe equivalent of the Bush Administration enforcing that secular rock radio stations devote half of their content to Christian rock…can you imagine the outrage (and rightly so)?
Posted by: Peters braaa | June 22, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
raygun-bush 1-bush-2″ the post showing clintons job rating is good is because a new republican congress passed the capital gains tax cut which enabled americans to sell their homes without getting nailed for a 20% tax,thereby powering a housing market and an economy that has been very good ever since,withstanding some real hits and employing million building and making house products. it had nothing to do with clinton,other than he was forced to sign it.
Posted by: gary | June 22, 2007, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
the smartest woman in the world(that does not include other species or men and children)failed the DC bar exam.
thereafter the SWITW was forced to go to arkanasa w/will-yams because he wanted to run for congress.
the self described SWITW went with him because she couldn’t get a job in DC without a law license,
finally will-yams got her to pass the bar with an open book test and no time limit along with 10 #2 pencils.
when this occurred he got the ol’ wlarus webb hubbel to put her on th epayroll in charge of billing records and cattle futures.
someone else always has to do her work because she is incompetent.
is there any project that anyone is aware of that she started and finished.
no fair: tying bill’s shoes does not count.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
GARY -
The point remains that conservative economics has been a dismal failure. The clear evidence of that is the pathetic increase in private sector jobs under Raygun, Bush I & II.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
I said BS, not the truth.
Will half-truth, he was a great president!
Posted by: Steve K. | June 22, 2007, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm
Steve. still stuck on Raygun. How sad.
Look – it’s OK, and can be ethical, to hold to a view – a vision of what is right and wrong.
Or, there’s this possibility of finding out instead, that one is simply a bigot.
big·ot n. One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
or/ n., a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
One can argue that the R’s or the D’s are worse in these areas which are indeed worth visiting, but not that there is significant difference over the years.
Even the radical leftist magazines, like Mother Jones and The Nation understand this:
It was the early 1990s and then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton was on the campaign trail making promises: “I expect to review our arms sales policy and to take it up with the other major arms sellers of the world as a part of a long-term effort to reduce the proliferation of weapons.”
..So, once elected, Bill Clinton did what he does best: He took advantage of the opportunity. Rather than insert human-rights concerns into the arms-sales equation, as did his Democratic predecessor President Carter, Clinton decided to aggressively continue the sales policies of President Bush, himself no slouch when it came to selling U.S. arms.
Early on, Clinton required our diplomats to shill for arms merchants to their host countries. The results were immediate: During Clinton’s first year in office, U.S. arms sales more than doubled. From 1993 to 1997, the U.S. government sold, approved, or gave away $190 billion in weapons to virtually every nation on earth.
The arms industry, meanwhile, has greased the wheels. It filled the Democratic Party coffers to the tune of nearly $2 million in the 1998 election cycle.
To examine the Clinton administration’s eagerness to arm the world, the MoJo Wire has compiled a detailed look at America’s top weapons customers during the Clinton years, tallying their total 1993-97 purchases through both the Pentagon (so-called “Foreign Military Sales,” or FMS) and U.S. manufacturers (“Direct Commercial Sales,” or DCS).
What we found is that while the U.S. obviously sells weapons to NATO countries and relatively democratic allies like Japan and South Korea, it also has a nasty habit of arming both sides in a conflict, as well as countries with blighted democracy or human-rights records, like Indonesia, Colombia, and Saudi Arabia.
All of this might be justified as a way to maintain a strong manufacturing job-base in the U.S., but some of these sales actually result in jobs being shipped abroad — while arms manufacturers get tax breaks for merging, resulting in further layoffs here at home.
We examined the top dozen of these arms-exporting corporations, showing which does business where and how each has taken advantage of myriad federal tax breaks, reimbursements, and golden parachutes — as well as the eagerness of Congress to keep one of the economy’s largest employing segments happy.
In a separate story, we detail the arms industry’s lobbying strategies in Washington: how it keeps the export pipeline wide open, and easily outmaneuvers Congress’ occasional attempt to tie arms sales to human-rights records.
Lastly, we list organizations that you can join or support to help influence U.S. and corporate policies toward arms sales around the world…
—Arming Both Sides—
The Clinton administration has not been shy about arming potential foes in regional conflicts. For example, two of America’s biggest arms customers are Greece and Turkey, which have been threatening to go to war with each other for decades over the tiny Mediterranean island of Cyprus.
Both countries stake a claim to the island, more than a third of which has been occupied by Turkish forces since 1974, and the two have clashed hundreds of times in the 25 years since.
Though barred by Congress from selling offensive weapons to Cyprus itself, in 1997 the U.S. sold (or allowed American corporations to sell) more than $270 million worth of weapons to Greece and nearly $750 million worth to Turkey. Now if there’s a war, the two NATO allies can blast away at one another with far greater efficiency, thanks to the U.S. defense industry and its cheerleader, Bill Clinton.
It was no different under Carter.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
Steve -
The point remains – the 90′s economy was conservative economics at it’s best. In fact, it was Reaganomics gone mad (I’m not a fan – are you too dense to catch on). That’s why when it collapsed – there was only a giant big hole for the country to collapse into.
Only in this past year, have the CEO’s and the top 1% regained the extreme position of income that they had attained back in 200-2001, before it crashed.
Posted by: gh | June 22, 2007, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
the clear evidence of job failure under raygun has to do with a domocrat congress. and please dont get mean or i’ll burst into tears.
Posted by: gary | June 22, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I think HRC and BB are onto something, we can revive Err America AFTER university campuses, federal judgeships and all federal agencies, print and TV media positions are certified to be 50 percent filled by conservatives. Oh! DIVERSITY of THOUGHT?? NO WAY!!!!!!
Posted by: LibFreeZone | June 22, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I think it illustrates the cowardice of the left. That they are so frightended by the voice of dissent and/or opposition, so incapable of formulating cohesive rebuttals against it, that they feel they need to resort to government regulation in order to control the flow of information as they see fit.
Liberal Radio has been tried, and has failed.
Conservative hosts rule talk radio not because of some artificial government regulation, but because they bring in ratings. People listen.
It is not the fault of conservatives that few are interested in listening to liberal thought.
Posted by: Jaeson | June 22, 2007, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
It is obvious most of the posters have never had a thought different than their political party hacks. As a former career military man I find it amusing so many want to censor what they think is radical. I see radicals on both side of the equation. I have not seen or heard of conservatives or spineless republicans beating, intimidating, or destroying another’s property because they disagree with a liberal’s political stance as recently at the liberal convention
Posted by: Stan the Conservativ | June 22, 2007, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
hillary rodhams’s life is one massive failure after another.
has she ever succeeded at anything.
hiding the billing records doesn’t count. kenneth starr could be fooled by a seven year old. he vetted the incredibly stupid state senator.
sandra “LIGHTS OUT” o’connor. one of the foolish crazy ol ray-gun appointees.
he only chose her because ken starr said so and lassie was not available.
lassie was on assignment.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 22, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
THERE IS NO FREE MARKET FOR TALK RADIO
And here’s some evidence to support that claim:
I heard Insannity whining today about the possible restoration of the Fairness Doctrine and I decided to update my previous compilation of local talk radio hours, broken down by conservative and liberal shows. The hours below are only for the M-F schedules and do not include repeats.
Based on these hours, you might think that Tucson was overwhelmingly Republican but you would be wrong. According to the Pima County Recorder, Democrats far outnumber Republicans in voter registration.
DEM 95,681 REP 56,313 LBT 2,037 GRN 994 OTHER 63,563
CONSERVATIVE LINEUPS – Daily total: 56 hours
KNST -
6AM – 10AM: Tucson’s Morning Show with Jim Parisi
10AM – 1PM: The Rush Limbaugh Show
1PM – 4PM: The Sean Hannity Show
4PM – 7PM: The Savage Nation with Michael Savage
7PM – 10PM: Mark Levin Show
Daily hours: 15 (last hour of Levin show repeats 1st hour)
KVOI -
12:00-3:00am Brian & the Judge
3:00-6:00am Morning in America
6:00-9:00am The Dennis Miller Show
9:00am-12:00pm The Dennis Prager Show
12:00-3:00pm The Michael Medved Show
3:00-6:00pm The Hugh Hewitt Show
6:00-9:00pmThe John Gibson Show
Daily hours: 21
KZPT -
6AM-9AM The Morning Truth
9AM-12N The Laura Ingraham Show
12N-2P The Neal Boortz Show
2P-4P The Radio Factor w/ Bill O’Reilly
4P-7P The Jerry Doyle Show
7P-10P The Mike Gallagher Show
10P-12A The Greg Knapp Experience
Daily hours: 18
KJLL -
7PM – 9PM Tammy Bruce
Daily hours: 2
LIBERAL LINEUPS – Daily total: 10 hours
KJLL -
6AM – 9AM Stephanie Miller
9AM – 12AM Ed Shultz
9PM – 12PM Alan Colmes
Daily hours: 9
KXCI -
3PM – 4PM Democracy Now! Hosted by: Amy Goodman & Juan Gonzales
Daily hours: 1
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
GH -
Stop whoring for the criminal Raygun. Raygun traded arms to terrorists for hostages, something he said he would never do.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
“he [Ken Starr] vetted the incredibly stupid state senator. sandra “LIGHTS OUT” o’connor”
Another example of conservative ignorance.
When O’Connor was nominated. she had been a state judge for 6 years.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” Some law makers want to ignore parts of this document. Those are the one’s we need to get rid of regardless of which party they belong to.
Posted by: Royce | June 22, 2007, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
some write about their city being overwelmingly democrat and that is a reason to take conservative radio off the air. ever hear of the raygun democrats?
Posted by: gary | June 22, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Anyone who would advocate supressing “freedom of speech” is the true danger, regarless of political stripe or party……..
Lott, Clinton and Boxer, bye-bye, I say from freedom loving Americans……
Posted by: Steve | June 22, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“some write about their city being overwelmingly democrat and that is a reason to take conservative radio off the air”
More conservative lying. NO one and certainly not me has been saying take them off the air.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
How blind do these politicians think we are??? It is SO obvious that Hillary is behind this plot to silence the opposition, as she has so blatantly done in every other venue. Once talk radio is out of the way, she has a clear road into the White House (God Forbid!)
I find it totally hypocritical that these same politicians can do NOTHING to prevent the slime and filth on the internet from reaching our kids under the guise of “free speech,” yet when it comes to having too much free speech about them, they want to try to squelch it.
People better wake up and take back this country before we become a communist state!
Posted by: Grayson | June 22, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
“Liberal Radio has been tried, and has failed.”
Ed Shultz, Randi Rhodes and Stephanie Miller are doing just fine and so was Al Franken before he quit to run for the Senate.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
The reason that conservative talk shows rule the airwaves is that liberals don’t need someone to tell them what to think.
Posted by: Mike S. | June 22, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Hannity and Beck and O’Reilly and all those right wing hacks are lying when they say the Fairness Doctrine will ‘silence the opposition.’ The opposition is already silenced, in that the right wing is on 24/7 where I live. Rush runs three stations in my listening area – there is no counter-viewpoint. What we have here is right wing cowards who want to make certain the other side is not heard.
Posted by: Bill Adkins | June 22, 2007, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Not that it matters all that much, but “the other day” is a common Southwest colloquialism (particularly in Oklahoma), which can mean anything from yesterday to last week to last year. So when Inhofe used “the other day” to refer to something from three years ago, well, that’s pretty much a given for the region he’s from. So, Tapper, it stands up to scrutiny that he would reference the anecdote in that way. And if you listen to the sound clip of Inhofe, it’s clear he didn’t claim that Boxer and Clinton were seeking to end talk radio, just influence it. I’d be willing to bet Hillary and Barbara did indeed have such a conversation just as Inhofe described it.
Posted by: Red Dirt | June 22, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Liberals love freedom and tolerance only when it benefits their failed ideology and agenda.
Posted by: Pat | June 22, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Socialist: An “economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property and the exploitative ruling class. In practice, such a distribution of wealth is achieved by social ownership of the means of production, exchange and diffusion”.
-Clinton wants to eliminate the “exploitive ruling class” who, at the moment, have more talk radio hours than other groups.
Steve, while I find your ranting somewhat amusing, your assumptions and generalizations about who I am and what I listen to are incorrect. Your prejudices and outright and obvious hatred for those who do not think like you are a result of your indoctrination into the socialist left yourself.
Please step back from the purple kool-aid, take a breath, and ask yourself, free from your bigoted passion, why you – personally – would want a government to take your natural and God given rights away from you; rights to raise a child how you see fit, the right to try and succeed – or fail regardless of the color of your skin or the, or the right to listen to what you want without some government organization telling you what you can and can’t do.
If the so called fairness doctrine was so good, then let’s make sure it applies to all forms of communication. Let us also make sure that those who deliver ‘news’ are also equally distributed across the political spectrum; today over 90% of TV journalists are Democratic Party members. So, let’s kick out ½ of them and replace them with Republican Party members. Wait what about the greens and the independent?
You have the news papers, you have TV and Cable, you have both houses of congress, and how you want to exercise unrighteous dominion. Drunk with power. God help us all.
Posted by: Andy | June 22, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
How about some balance in speakers on college campuses. How about balancing faculty at colleges, where there’s not a single centrist, much less a Republican in some whole departments. How about some balance among television reporters and producers who lean to the far-left by 80-90%. Perhaps some balance in our major newspapers which are overwhelmingly leftist. Next Hillary and Barbara will come after the Internet and censor free speech here. HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!
Posted by: stratocaster | June 22, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
You all gotta come to Canada and hear all the Liberal ( Democrat ) garbage we have to listen to up here. Yeah and the government has silenced the right. Check out the talk shows here, you’d be amazed. Totally biased. Always against the right. Fight USA right wingers against this or you’ll end up like us here.
Posted by: John Regnier | June 22, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Hilary Clinton = Hugo Chavez.
It’s obvious now.
Don’t vote for the Marxist!
Posted by: Vote Republican | June 22, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
“How about balancing faculty at colleges, where there’s not a single centrist, much less a Republican in some whole departments.”
How about you try getting an education instead of parroting that lunatic David Whorowitz?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Do it and that will amount to a declaration of war against the people, and we will defend the Constitution vigorously.
Posted by: Patriot 2008 | June 22, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
“Do it and that will amount to a declaration of war against the people, and we will defend the Constitution vigorously.”
1) Do what?
2) Since when have conservatives cared about the Constitution?
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
“Hilary Clinton = Hugo Chavez.”
LMFAO!!! Another bedwetter tells himself a ghost story!
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Come on Jake…you guys who are leftist have had your way on Television since its inception and you guiys can’t stand it that there is another medium out there that meets the need for open and honest debate about the issues and you can’t control it nor spin it.What are you afraid of? I know…liberal ideas are bankrupt and would never hold sway in an open market…ABC is a joke and well I must admire you going down swinging.
Posted by: Mike Yarbrough | June 22, 2007, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
“you guiys can’t stand it that there is another medium out there that meets the need for open and honest debate about the issues”
Heheheee! Wingnut radio tells lies to the stupid and ignorant.
Posted by: Steve J. | June 22, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
You can’t teach neo-con far-right wing theories at university. It would be intellectually and morally dishonest to teach lies and falsehoods about facts, figures and data. It is called makeing things up to fit preconceived notions. Those who are ignorant of data, details and complexities and have no conception of any other culture, group or human experience beyond their own very limited understanding and want to simplify everything to a soundbite and scream it into the cosmic space – they are called neo-con and rightwing nut jobs. Their minds are made up – don’t confuse them by requiring them to think or learn new information or consider a different approach to a problem.
Anyone who does possess knowledge of data, details, complexities and information knows there is no easy answer that fits in a soundbite and there are many different human experiences different from their own that require different policies and understanding – rightwing Kokoobirds call them liberals.
Posted by: Ann | June 23, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am
“Before anyone says that “Talk Radio” does allow a debate, do you really think that the people that are put through to talk with the hosts are just random samplings of people calling in? It’s a SHOW! The topics, the points, the people calling in, are all CONTROLLED. No real debate is going on. Apparently they are slick enough at it, that Joe Q. Public forgets this.”
So sorry Mike but as usual your socialist lies don’t wash with those of us who actually call in and debate the host. If you don’t want to hear these shows, as you tell us when nothing but trash is on TV, turn the knob. I am sure there will be something for you on the Communist Broadcast Service with Katie.
Posted by: Mommy | June 23, 2007, 1:10 am 1:10 am
I’m a moderate conservative. Sometimes you people on the right are complete JACKASSES. I’m sorry, but it’s true. And you people on the left, you make me want to go to sleep with your whining and complaining. I don’t see any problem with Clinton and Boxer wanting a legislative fix for far-right talk radio. It’ll never happen, but I don’t see what’s the big deal about the idea. FREE SPEECH!! claim the ultra-conservatives (as they write checks to PACS that BOUNCE a mile high on the integrity scale). No one, I repeat, no one has a lock on the truth. And if talk-radio hosts want to continue giving conservative ideals a bad name, that’s fine with me. For example, Rush is funny and a good man, but he knows he’s wrong on immigration. You can hear it in his voice. If I wanted ratings, I’d become a conservative, near-sighted jackass with my pants buttoned up around my belly button, too. At the end of the day, most men are just trying to please their father. Btw, Keith Olberman is just as much a JACKASS as anyone on talk radio, so let’s not get carried away arguin’ that the deck is stacked on one side. Over it’s short history, television has tried a socially corrective course that would sink the Titanic on it’s side instead of vertically. And at the end of the day, we’re all filled with a bunch of blah, blah, blah, wanting to be heard. A thousand points of light my ass. Try a thousand points of pointless crap. He who laughs last, wins.
Posted by: Russ | June 23, 2007, 1:52 am 1:52 am
o’connor was massively underqualified
lower court judge but had been a state senator and worked in the attorney general’s office. any way you slice it, if you are defending her for being a judge after a senator, it doesn’t make her qualified. she was probably nancy’s mannequin. her litmus test by the incoherent starr probably was sticking pins in her ears.
she was appointed because of ken starr’s stupidity and ronald ray-gun having a very small internal operating system.)oh, goody, we got sandy)(thought it was orphan annie’s dog) she was labeled a conservative as was the even more liberal george (walk-on the-moon) bush.he can’t speak in full phrases.
i am not a conservative blogger but i will warn you steve J. (Juvenile) that i am going to put your leash back on if you don’t behave and if that doesn’t work we will have to see the vet to calm you down.
no more red bull either.
no starbucks.
i won’t tie you too tight if you shown any signs of rehabilitation.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 23, 2007, 1:53 am 1:53 am
The so-called fairness doctrine which is being promoted by the Center for American Progress (funded by Soros and run by Clinton supporters) shows liberals fundamental aversion to capitalism and democracy. The absence of liberal talk radio is not the result of some vast right wing conspiracy but the product of the profitability of conservative talk shows. The radio station are not just republican hacks and would back any host that made money. Furthermore, conservative talk shows are popular because they are by and large the most accessible news source for people tired of the liberal bias of the mainstream media, nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: Castro | June 23, 2007, 1:55 am 1:55 am
It’s reallly pretty clear that liberals and conservatives don’t trust each other’s information. There’s so much information to digest, it’s hard to know what’s important. We all rely on trusted secondary sources who make a living processing information and giving us capsules of what they feel is important. Even so, I appreciate those of you who present facts, from where ever you got them. Some of you are pretty liberal and others pretty conservative. Unfortunately, these blogs tend to be dominated by narrow minds who want to brand as corrupt or stupid those who disagree with them. I find this mode particularly prevalent among those who criticize “right-wing talk radio.” They want to assert that if you listen to Rush or Hannity, you’re a greedy bastard who can’t think for himself. The cynicism most Americans feel about politics and politicians comes from the fact that too many of us are willing to judge each other as incompetent in some way just because we disagree. Ladies and Gentlemen (terms used loosely but hopefully) perhaps we can focus on facts and recognize that others may have facts we don’t know. I have lots of conservative opinions, but I’m not stupid or corrupt. I have liberal friends with whom I can have great discussions, and others who expect me to hear and believe what they say while rejecting my known facts. I have conservative friends who lack facts, too. I avoid closed minds of all stripes. That’s what makes a visit to blog sites so excruciating.
Posted by: Al Clarke | June 23, 2007, 2:00 am 2:00 am
whoever posted the registered voters for tucson was very confused. what year were they? 1960?
the current population for tucson is alighly over 1MM. so these numbers would mean that 80% of citizens are not registered to vote. city of tucson runs democrat majority. pima county leans repub overall.
Uinv of AZ skews the numbers. too many employees with little or no work to do. professional moochers from the property taxpayers.
Posted by: bigdawg169 | June 23, 2007, 2:09 am 2:09 am
Is something preventing liberals from starting their own talk show?
I don’t think so. Well, maybe their lack of talent.
So, why don’t we call it for what it is? It’s the democrats trying to control public opinion for the 2008 elections. And the only people agreeing on “>restricting talk<” radio are the liberal sheep who can’t form an intelligent thought.
Here is a little advice for you liberals. How do you turn off a liberal or conservative radio show? Tune out.
Posted by: Martin | June 23, 2007, 2:26 am 2:26 am
AHHHHHHHHhhhhhh; where’s the ACLU????? Now if this was supposedly said about a liberal talk show there would be outrage. Now if it were said about a gay/lesbian, Latino, black, or any other ethnic talk radio show there would be near riots and you could bet your bippy that Jesse, Al and the rest of the gang would be all over it. I don’t know if this was said or not but if a conversation between two conservative GOP members supposedly happened and they were being accused by a liberal senator you could bet that there would be outrage. Well, so far I don’t like any of the candidates, I’m waiting for Fred. I really feel he is the only one who has what it takes to pull this country out of the hole it’s digging it’s self into.
Posted by: Dave | June 23, 2007, 2:58 am 2:58 am
How do we all consume all this info,right or left? It seems easy to me and my small mind. whatever the Polition is blabbing… go the other way. It is unfortunate that it has come to this in our lifetimes but, i hate to be the bearer of bad news. Our politcians are not for the people anymore… they are for…. who knows..
WELL I’m for America and I hope you are too. I hope you,, anyone reading this will vote for what is really in the BEST interest of every “American”. Do we really need 10, 20 or 30 million people to do the jobs “people won’t do”? Do we need the 10′s of MILLIONS of ILLIGALS to bring thier extended families here as well? Do the math, That could be 10,20,50,100 million people flooding our country,,, I really don’t care who they are… I just see what is happening NOW in my small community. Our school districts can’t buy books, our hospitals are going broke, our jails are full, cities are going broke and our streets are in shambles….. what sence does it make to open our boarders to whoever wants to come in? I think we need to slow things down and step back,,, If this were your money,(which it is)do you want to spend more on free houseing,medical,prisons,education.. I don’t… I work all my life,work with my kids to do their best so they can advance to the best colleges. Save money to pay for it and plan for the future,,, The whole time our polititions will hand over in state tuitions to Illigal’s. I will work my whole life pay my taxes and ss taxes and hope to survive at retirement… Yet someone from another country can come here,l get a house or apartment to live in, free medical,schooling and food stamps. Is this fair? Is there a country on this planet that I can retire to and get all these benifits? The answer is absolutely NOT A CHANCE.What are our elected officals really up to? That is what we need to know. I truely beleive they are no longer for the people. The only way we can make a change is to VOTE… And to vote new blood into congress and our senate… So, I suggest to vote for the underdog,,, get the old blood out.Lets see if we can Totally shift the house,senate even the whitehouse,,,, retire the lifers in our government… the only way we are going to have change is to change our leadership,,,,
I want to hope and believe it will happen…
Thanks… An American
Posted by: Idaho boy | June 23, 2007, 3:50 am 3:50 am
The current Congress has been attempting to take away our Freedom of Speech since the beginning of the year, but due to a tremendous outcry by the voters, the House and Senate were both foiled!! They don’t want the American public to know how they vote on issues that impact us, and they are wanting to restrict information that we receive on important issues. Our Freedom of Speech is under attack by those we elected to represent us. Looks like they are wanting to become a secret society. We should be very frightened by their attempted actions. Let your representatives know how you feel – it’s the only way we may be able to keep our basic rights.
Posted by: Tam | June 23, 2007, 4:38 am 4:38 am
Talk radio is another source of free speech guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. Need I say more? Regulated it? Herr Geobbels must be dancing in his grave. Ya, let’s make it propaganda, mein fuhrer. Just say nice things about our leaders. How can we boast we are a free society when talk radio may be regulated by the very people talk radio gets off offending. This smacks of killing the messenger for the message is not liked by those who fear the free message. Most talk radio is crap, but it’s OUR crap; leave it be, or next, it will be our telephones that will be regulated — oh, I’m too late!
Posted by: Roberto Alexander-Rodriguez | June 23, 2007, 4:39 am 4:39 am
AHHHHHHHHhhhhhh; where’s the ACLU????? Now if this was supposedly said about a liberal talk show there would be outrage. Now if it were said about a gay/lesbian, Latino, black, or any other ethnic talk radio show there would be near riots and you could bet your bippy that Jesse, Al and the rest of the gang would be all over it. I don’t know if this was said or not but if a conversation between two conservative GOP members supposedly happened and they were being accused by a liberal senator you could bet that there would be outrage. Well, so far I don’t like any of the candidates, I’m waiting for Fred. I really feel he is the only one who has what it takes to pull this country out of the hole it’s digging it’s self into.
Posted by: Dave | Jun 23, 2007 2:58:55 AM
Hey, Dave tell me all you know about big Freddie. Let me know what your true feelings are. Do you think you can elaborate a bit? Be specific and detailed if possible. Love to hear it. Doubt you will. Prove me wrong Daveo. I doubt you know much about the guy. But sell me on the Hollywood elitist.
Posted by: dan deale | June 23, 2007, 5:28 am 5:28 am
Tam (Jun 23, 2007 4:38:34 AM) – “Our politcians are not for the people anymore… they are for…. who knows..”
Tam: they are for anything which will keep themselves in power and make us more dependant on them. This is very easy to verify. Any program which creates more government bureaucracy
and more control by the government is a perfect example. This give them more control over our lives, which requires more people within the government to control and regulate the program (taking away yet another freedom), thus making us more dependant on the government (I think they call it Socialism). National Health Care is a perfect example of this. This takes away our freedom (to choose our own health care providers), gives the government more power, and thus helps those in power more powerful. Keep an eye open for these types of programs (that take away our liberties), and watch out for catch phrases like “for the good of all the people”. The hair on your neck should stand up when you hear this, and standby to have yet another liberty taken away.
Jeff
Posted by: Jeff | June 23, 2007, 6:33 am 6:33 am
If you don’t like what’s on talk radio, turn it off. It’s that simple. Talk radio doesn’t need to be legislated. Period. Shame on you Trent Lott and anyone else who agrees with your statements about talk radio.
Posted by: ST | June 23, 2007, 7:03 am 7:03 am
A gossips happened 3 years ago. How can this be report as news?
Posted by: john | June 23, 2007, 7:13 am 7:13 am
It is my fervent hope that Americans do not elect Hillary as President. They were dumb enough to elect her husband not once but twice and I hope they have smartened up since then.
Posted by: sandra | June 23, 2007, 7:23 am 7:23 am
Do not do anything. We still have freedom of speech, you may like what they say, but they have a right to speak.
Posted by: Randy Hunt | June 23, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Radio is already regulated. That’s because the radio spectrum is a finite resource owned by the American people.
There is no free speech on radio except for the the billion dollar corporations who own the stations. They can spend all day telling you what to think. Especially telling you that this is a “free speech issue”.
Posted by: Sid | June 23, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am
There is a Clinton history on silencing and demonizing people who disagree with them. Whether it is stealing peoples FBI records to use unsupported stories against their opponents: http://www.cnn.com/US/9606/23/fbi.files/
Using the IRS to audit people who make accusations against them: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14702
Or selectively targeting churches and conservative groups who speak out against them: http://www.texemarrs.com/121998/irsmuz.htm
It is how they, and their army of private investigators work. And now, all you “geniuses” who say Rush listeners don’t think want to give these people every single Americans health records! Are you crazy? I can hear “Shrillery” now. “Oh look, Bill, this opponent of ours had an abortion, and that one had VD back when he was in college.” Here’s a little article on how HRC operates.
In his new biography of Hillary Clinton, ” A Woman in Charge,” Carl Bernstein recalls April 23-25, 1993, the 94th, 95th and 96th days of the Clinton administration, when the president and Mrs. Clinton attended a retreat with Senate Democrats in Williamsburg. It was already clear that the Clintons were not going to fulfill their promise to present “comprehensive” health-care legislation within their first 100 days. Bernstein reports that two of the most respected and, for Mrs. Clinton’s purposes, most important senators, Pat Moynihan and Bill Bradley (both were on the Finance Committee, which would handle her legislation; Moynihan was chairman), were appalled by her highhandedness.
Bradley asked her whether the tardiness in delivering her bill would complicate passage by making the bill competitive with other legislative goals, and he suggested that some substantive changes in her proposal might be necessary. Bernstein writes:
“No, Hillary responded icily, there would be no changes because delay or not, the White House would ‘demonize’ members of Congress and the medical establishment who would use the interim to alter the administration’s plan or otherwise stand in its way.”
Bradley and Moynihan heard this, Bernstein says, “with disgust and distrust.” Her plan never even came to a vote in a Congress controlled by her party.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 23, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Wow! Quite a lot of hyperventilating on both ends of the ideological scale.
First, full disclosure here. I am an unapologetic conservative with a few relatives who are very liberal, but who consider themselves “independent.” I’ll get back to them in a minute.
Since the liberal hierarchy may or may not be (but I doubt it…almost certain to backfire badly) more interested in reviving this doctrine than just idle chit chat, let’s assume that they are for the sake of argument.
What too many on here seem to not understand is exactly what this “Fairness Doctrine” amounts to historically and practically.
The Fairness Doctrine, which was finally discarded under executive order by (cue boos) Ronald Reagan, was originally a way for government to regulate broadcasting content by specifying that any media outlet with one viewpoint also at least give an opportunity for the opposite viewpoint to be aired.
This didn’t necessarily mean that they could find someone willing or able to do so, and often one side or the other’s initial view went unchallenged.
Logistically, what this meant for a given broadcast outlet was that it became ever more difficult and costly to air a political program.
It was a logistical nightmare because they would have to arrange for a rebuttal, including all the headaches of making a contact and scanning his rebuttal which would necessitate it being a written response, to ensure that the response wasn’t just some guy trying to slip in an agreement instead of the government regulated opposition.
This would (at least initially) have made responses slow, clumsy, and probably unentertaining to put it mildly.
Perhaps later on, they could have a one-on-one political discussion, but not before a true liberal vs. conservative commentator bonafide had been established.
So, one strike against the doctrine was that it was awkward, difficult, and expensive to implement.
The other problem that too many are overlooking is probably even more troubling: Exactly WHO determines whether someone passes a political litmus test that will somehow stand up to scrutiny?
Ruminate on that one for a while.
It should also be pointed out that historically, since the advent of FM radio drawing away former AM listeners for music due to FM and its inherent sound quality advantage, AM was left with little more than sports, news, and talk for broadcasting content.
And, as anyone knows who has listened a little to NPR or a sports only radio station, there is only so much of the first two AM contents that an intellectually curious individual will want to listen to.
So, with AM already taking a major hit from the loss of music listeners, and with this fairness doctrine encroaching on the one really interesting area of their broadcast day, AM was dying the death of a thousand cuts.
I remember it myself, thinking back to when I was a young kid getting an AM/FM radio for christmas and wondering why the manufacturer even bothered adding AM capability to a radio at all.
AM was stale, sounded as if they were talking to the listener with a string can phone, and faded out whenever dad drove under a highway overpass.
Then something changed.
The fairness doctrine was overturned, and something remarkable happened.
There was no longer a government eye peering over the broadcaster shoulder to decide if that broadcaster kept his license.
The broadcasters being broadcasters and not a charity case, sought out talent who could earn them money to make up for all those years of steady decline and sometimes ruination.
Most AM broadcasters were uninterested in talent who merely agreed with their ownership and management politically.
No sir, this was about staying on the air long enough to attract an audience that would grow rather than dwindle away.
A growing audience made the AM advertising salesmen very happy by making it easier to find sponsors.
And, as that audience continued to expand, the rates charged would be adjusted accordingly.
An expanding audience means not just more salesmen, but it also means more employees need to be hired to handle all this new business, and thus more jobs.
Fancy that, a marketing success story.
On the flip side of the coin, there were still a few broadcasters who took the opportunity to have their talent reflect their views only.
Some of these still exist, especially in enclaves with a large population receptive to the station’s views.
Some of this second set of stations were strictly conservative, while (often the majority) were decidely liberal.
Some of this second set of stations succeeded, while many failed, often as not due to a one-dimensional mindset.
Now, let’s fast forward to the latter and early halves of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries, respectively.
There are still a (very) few very liberal stations out there that aren’t Air America affiliates, even here in the midwest.
Meanwhile, stations who gave their audience what they wanted instead of having it dictated to them have suddenly scene their fortunes reversed in a positive direction.
If a station means to appeal to an audience base who wants to listen to conservative talk, then they have that right.
Likewise, a more left leaning station can seek out an audience who agrees with them.
But the important thing to remember here is that any station – whatever its owner/management philosophy may be – trying to conjure an audience out of thin air will find it increasingly difficult to do business, and will turn off their tower after its owner’s life savings has been expended.
Now, what would be the upshot of reimplementing this so called doctrine?
It should be obvious what this would do to AM radio.
But what about the other media?
Remember them?
Well, FM talk would be even more of an interesting problem.
Here is the realm of morning drive time comedy teams and shock jokes with potential government regulation of political views.
This means parodies, callers, and even idle side comments from the hosts could be under the regulatory eye.
But who decides which gets regulated, and how?
Does anyone honestly believe this could be done?
If so, wouldn’t it be fair to say that this would cause the often liberal friendly (hi, Howard Stern) FM talkers to go absolutely ballistic?
Can you say backlash?
And what about TV?
Keith Olberman, Lou Dobbs, and Chris Matthews would each have to get his own Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Neal Cavuto for rebuttals.
Yes, Hannity already has Alan Colmes, so he makes the grade already, but that also gives him an early regulatory advantage.
Oh, wait, they are cable, so they probably would not have to do that since they aren’t technically broadcast over the free airwaves.
Well, our all concerned legislators could change that too, right?
And, if they didn’t change it, Tim Russert and George Stephanopoulis might have a bit of a problem on their hands.
Suddenly, it is no longer fair when it becomes a case of YOUR oxe getting gored.
Since print media aren’t in the broadcast arena, they would have extra news and (unfettered) debate stories about what a total mess the feds have made of the formally free broadcast marketplace of ideas.
If a conservative wants to say something over the airwaves and get paid to do it, then let him makes his case, and he will succeed.
And, if a liberal wants to do likewise, that is his right as well.
And, as for the government having content oversight; I say no, thanks!
Let the listeners decide what they want, then let those willing to give that those listeners be rewarded for their efforts.
If you can easily afford it, and you want a Firebird, you don’t buy a Yugo.
Oh, remember my liberal relatives I mentioned earlier?
Keep in mind that conservatives aren’t the only ones who often tend to listen to those who agree with them.
When I go to see my liberal relatives, the ONLY magazines I see by their couches are Sojourner, and the only radio they listen to is NPR.
I’m not sure about what they like on the tube, other than entertainment.
I love them dearly, but I generally avoid political discussions except vaguely and politely with them.
But, here is something that should trouble anyone who hears it:
During the 1980s, I actually heard one of these relatives state that the U.S. built the Berlin Wall.
That’s not a typo there, folks.
And, she was completely flabbergasted when it was explained to her that the USSR was the nation who built and maintained it even as we discussed it.
She was an intellegent and educated woman, but where did such a complete falsehood originate?
But, my relative being an intelligent person who loved her family as much as we loved her, at least seemed to accept the truth when she was finally confronted with it.
Conservative radio listeners are often accused of being rendered out of touch by their radio pied pipers, and some may well be, but I doubt even many liberals have accepted such a monumental lie as my dear departed relative believed.
Posted by: oldpink | June 23, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am
The audio of Inhofe seems to have been removed. At least we still get the picture: http://thumbsnap.com/v/Mm1Q5d9X.jpg
Posted by: Conium | June 23, 2007, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Inhofe is a prevaricator to say the least. No thousand word Limbaughesque essay will change this fact.
Posted by: Teucer | June 23, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Censorship of the American people; they aready removed our rights to vote in these last two fraudulant elections. What a beautiful Right-Wing religious corporate militaristic fanatic Bushie world it is! Yehaw! Yup Yup Yup. When is he going back to Crawford, Texas? And by the way no more Texas Presidents, two Bushes and a Johnson are enough for the next few hundred years.
Posted by: sandra l | June 23, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Oh my goodiness I was wrong! This is heresay leaked via Inhofe by Carl Rove to discredit Hillary and Barbara Boxer. What am I thinking?
Posted by: sandra l | June 23, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Thank God for George W. Bush.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 23, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
When Air America can’t get a listener ratting higher than a * in the Arbitrons. Liberals/Progressives have to resort to legislation to force people to listen to liberal talk radio. Having ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,PBS,NPR is not enough for libs, they can not have ANY voice of opposition, see Chavez on free speech for Venezuela
Posted by: alan | June 23, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Here’s how the left handles free speech and the rights of Americans. Silence the American people with “hate speech” laws. Silence the soldier’s, because they dare to speak out against them, and just want to win. Silence the radio waves with the “Fairness Doctrine.” Silence the pulpits with threatening the churches with removal of their tax-exempt status for conducting “political speech” from the pulpit. (I.E.- talking about them.), but exempt your church’s from the same. http://www.texemarrs.com/121998/irsmuz.htm. Silence people who accuse them of wrongdoing by having them audited by the IRS. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14702 Silence your political opposition by obtaining their F.B.I. records, where any accusation can be unfairly made, and pass it off to a willing media as an “innocent mistake.” http://www.cnn.com/US/9606/23/fbi.files/ B. J. Clinton was a master of the last three. Silence dissent in the classrooms. Silence speakers and alternative viewpoints by heckling on college campuses. Silence authors by not displaying or reordering their books in the bookstores, even when those books are on the best seller list. Attack the right of free speech, and others, by denying that there is a God, so no such thing as “God given rights.” Disseminate false and misleading information when it serves your interests to advance your cause. Silence the right of being asked serious questions by your opposition, by refusing to appear on any network that doesn’t support you, even if that network’s opinions are supported by over half of the nation, and they are the most watched. Deny the right to free and closed election ballots to people voting on Union membership. Any of you sunshine patriots who support these people should think twice. When you stop marching out of lockstep, and have a different view then the one the media is filling you with, it will be your turn to discover just what an oppressive government can do. You know, “when they came for me, there was nobody left.” When the right of free speech is gone, the only thing separating us from a revolution will be the size of our middle class. Should China, or another nation, put us into economic chaos, all that will remain is anarchy. Woe to you on that day, as I for one will be part of a group of millions that will be ferreting out you lunatics who support the silencing of your fellow Americans, or believe all this nonsensical conspiracy garbage . Then, all the gun laws, faith in global warming, and smarmy intellectual superiority you think you possess in the world won’t be enough to protect you from we, the people, who still love this country. We will be sanctioned in what we do, as the documents that created this great nation demand us to revolution, should we be threatened with the government usurping of our “God given rights.” This is what our founder’s said, in case you’ve forgotten- “Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their saftey and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light or transient causes: and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” Ya’all just might want to keep that in mind.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 23, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
The talk radio is great. It’s the Sen. and Cong. that has to go, even the President. Sure seems like they are in this together, and are afraid the people are going to hear a truth that they don’t want to be heard. Keep it up. Christine
Posted by: ChrisDeLashmutt | June 23, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Teucer said:
“Inhofe is a prevaricator to say the least. No thousand word Limbaughesque essay will change this fact.”
My turn:
I guess it was too much to hope that more than a glib response that doesn’t even begin to refute what I said was on its way.
I don’t know or much care about Inhofe and whether he overheard Mrs. Bill Clinton and Babs Boxer discussing how they were going to take down your Limbaugh boogeyman.
I pay more attention to congressmen Kucinich, Hoyer, and Pelosi, who have advocated reinstitution of a severely antiquated and constitutionally troubling bit of regulation.
Now, do I believe that it will amount to much more thana token effort to put it forward, as a way to at least throw the far left a bone?
No, I really don’t.
I believe they will at least mention it at their campaigns some, and they may even introduce written motions, but they won’t get very far with that, either.
No, I believe that it will get scuttled by both right and (sensible) left thinkers.
The sensible ones will recognize it for what it is: sly government regulation of things it doesn’t like flying under the banner of fairness, whatever that is.
However, if they should press forward with any real seriousness, it would do its advocates FAR more harm than good, what with how it would energize their opposition.
People are funny that way.
Posted by: oldpink | June 23, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
In his new biography of Hillary Clinton, ” A Woman in Charge,” Carl Bernstein recalls April 23-25, 1993, the 94th, 95th and 96th days of the Clinton administration, when the president and Mrs. Clinton attended a retreat with Senate Democrats in Williamsburg. It was already clear that the Clintons were not going to fulfill their promise to present “comprehensive” health-care legislation within their first 100 days. Bernstein reports that two of the most respected and, for Mrs. Clinton’s purposes, most important senators, Pat Moynihan and Bill Bradley (both were on the Finance Committee, which would handle her legislation; Moynihan was chairman), were appalled by her highhandedness.
Bradley asked her whether the tardiness in delivering her bill would complicate passage by making the bill competitive with other legislative goals, and he suggested that some substantive changes in her proposal might be necessary. Bernstein writes:
“No, Hillary responded icily, there would be no changes because delay or not, the White House would ‘demonize’ members of Congress and the medical establishment who would use the interim to alter the administration’s plan or otherwise stand in its way.”
Bradley and Moynihan heard this, Bernstein says, “with disgust and distrust.” Her plan never even came to a vote in a Congress controlled by her party.
Posted by: Diffuse | June 23, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
SAndra 1…”they aready removed our rights to vote…”
Really? So “they” you didn’t vote?
And “they” won’t let you vote next time?
Who are “they,” Sandra? The very liberal Democrat Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court, who warned his court that they were getting way out of line – that there was no way the Supreme Court would let their radical decision stand. That same decision, the state-wide recount that Al Gore’s chief counsel argued in front of the Florida Supreme Court that they had no legal standing in ordering such a “state-wide” recount. Yes, Sandra. Boies argued against what the left says they wanted. Only Gore did not want it. Besides, the recounts did, in fact show that if “those” recounts had proceeded, Bush would have won any way.
in the end, it did not matter that the US Supreme Court voted 7-2 to stop the recount. Had they voted for it to continue, Bush would have won the recount. There is no argument on those issues. The arguments are on fringe fantasies.
Posted by: gh | June 23, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Hey, let’s reopen the Florida vote, only this time, we won’t let the national media announce they’re “projection” 2 hours before the polls close. Want to bet that’s not worth a couple of hundred thousand votes?
Posted by: Diffuse | June 23, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Radio today, internet next, shortwave eventually? Maybe we will be forced to publish broadsides as they did during the revolutionary war. Sharpen your quill pens!
Posted by: S.L. Pierce | June 23, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Bush is NOT a Texan!! He was a Yankee immigrant ! Now Ron Paul is a native Texan, southern scholar and gentleman. Check him out!!
Posted by: Sue | June 23, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Rush who? The only Rush I listen to are named: Geddy Lee, Alex Lieson and Neil Peart. But Rush Limbaugh et al in all honesty are nothing Since Howard Stern for example left terrestrial radio, Limbaugh’s listenership went fom 30 million to 10 million. And currently, left radio has increased from say: 500,000 to 1.8 million. So where are the others? Sure not Sirius or X.M., but to a small network called Premiere Radio Networks, specifically to a show called Coast to Coast A.M. The show hosted by George Noory, Ian Punnett and Art Bell has more than 10 million and up to 50 million listeners. Yes, it’s that woo woo radio show, but that woo woo radio show asks the questions no talk show asks: 9/11, Codex, Soldiers dying from D.U., RFID tags and so on. And yes the UFO theories too, but guess what? Rush Limbaugh doesn’t talk smack about Coast when George Noory has guests criticizing Bush. And Fox news is a part of Premiere’s radio news program.
So don’t worry about Rush, et al, just make sure you’re honest and not on the other end of the CoastRider’s wrath.
J.A.
P.S., Gorge Noory for President 2012
Posted by: Japanese_American | June 23, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Posted by: Conium | June 24, 2007, 12:37 am 12:37 am
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A FEW QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. THE FIRST IS WHY DOES EVERYONE SAY THAT OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE, YET NO ONE ASKS THAT QUESTION OF FRED THOMPSON? THE NEXT IS AN ISSUE NO ONE ASKS, WHY IS HILLARY RUNNING? SHE IS PASSE AND TAKING UP SPACE THAT NOW BELONGS TO OBAMA, EDWARDS OR RICHARDSON. WHY DOES HILLARY THINK SHE HAS THIS RIGHT? THE CLINTONS ALREADY HAD THEIR TURN. BESIDES THE FACT WE HAVE CLINTON AND BUSH FATIGUE, DOESN’T ANYONE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS FACT? 28 YEARS OF BUSHES AND CLINTONS DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A DEMOCRACY TO ME, AND THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST THIS ! THEN WHAT? JEB BUSH GETS TO RUN? THIS IS INSANE AND THIS MUST STOP! AND THIS IS BESIDE THE FACT THAT NO ONE LIKES HILLARY AND NO ONE LIKES THE BUSHES.
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Posted by: イスラミヤ | June 25, 2007, 2:06 am 2:06 am
talk radio (noun)[mod. Eng. derivative of "radio", in reference to "radio programming"] 1) broadcast radio programs consisting almost entirely of moderator(s) discussing issues of the day with callers or interviewees; 2) much sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Posted by: chuck | June 25, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Beth – So what experience does Obama have? None? he is a Puppet made up from the Lib Press to take attention away from Hilary’s gaffes.
Fred Thompson has years of experience to long to list here. Google his history.
28 Years??? It will only be 20, but that said People still like Bush, just because the Lib press does not like him, or there are some disagreements from the Republicans with him does not mean he is disliked. You know if there was a Dem in office, the press would be promoting the Great Economy we have and be reporting all the good in Iraq. Oh I’m sorry if a Dem was in office we probably would be losing the War on Terror (WWIII)
Posted by: spock | June 25, 2007, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Diffuse – Great post
Ahmed – It is Freedom of Speech NOT Freedom from speech. And plus please state something that is hate-filled from conservative talk Radio, I know the Left Radio shows were filled with hate speech, so please list hate speech form the Conservative talk shows please??
Also can’t you change the dial to the 1000′s of other stations?
And for those bringing up Florida GET over it!! First of all President Bush won the 2004 election with a record number of votes from any election in past. and in 2000 how come Gore did not want the Military votes to be counted in Florida?? and They never were!.
Do you know that all great countries were destroyed from the inside. The only way to destroy this great country is from the inside, and the greatest protection we have is the First Amendment, if the Libs do away with that we are sure to be no more.
Posted by: spock | June 25, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am
So, just when so many on here were scoffing that Mrs. Bill Clinton and Babs Boxer ever discussing shutting down their radio boogeymen.
I couldn’t help noticing which state both Boxer and Feinstein come from.
Wasn’t it the progressives who always said the First Amendment was not created to protect only speech we want to hear?
Oh, my bust, silly me.
Posted by: oldpink | June 25, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Is no one working or is everyone watching TV and listening to the radio?
When I was working a 40 hr week, I was so tired, I bearly had time to watch TV or listen to radio……….Oh, well, those were the good days, when Americans had well paying jobs.
Posted by: jot314 | June 27, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
jot314 – you are right about tv, but i listen to the radio while i work, that is probably where the majority listen
Posted by: spock | June 27, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Personally I see no need for a congressional decrees to change “Talk Radio.”
We have main stream television news programs that have shown to be more liberal than conservative. Then we have talk raido. I have a brain. I gather information from a number of different sources. I do not need one network providing two sides of one issue. I have a hand that can tune into many different avenues to get the “big picture.”
I do tend to lean toward a more conservative process. More just right to center than hard right… So I can also see how re-starting the “faireness” doctrine could actually improve things… as the hard left, is more sociallist in nature…. It would only bring out this fact more plainly than current news agencies currently show.
Posted by: Lynda V | June 29, 2007, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz and Clark Howard are members of The Ronald Reagan Republican Swift Boat Gestapo Nazi Hate Radio: Lies, Hate and Greed. All are graduates os Joseph Goebbels School of Journalism at Adolf Hitler University.
Certainly the smears, slurs and Poisonous Vitriol spit at Harry Read during his Mr. Tapper’s Republican Swift Boat Gestapo “interview” only proves he doesn’t tell the truth and the serves his master race.
Once there was journalism in this country when people like Edward R. Murrow was around.
Now we have Nazis like John Stossel, Chip Reid and Mr. Tapper whose only job is to lie so war profiteers can steal money.
You are human filth and a liar.
Posted by: Brian Keith O'Hara | July 14, 2007, 7:43 am 7:43 am
Hello everyone. I define comfort as self-acceptance. When we finally learn that self-care begins and ends with ourselves, we no longer demand sustenance and happiness from others.
I am from Verde and also now am reading in English, give please true I wrote the following sentence: “ The fact that a large segment of the american public is suffering is irrelevant from their perspective.”
:( Thanks in advance. Oneida.
Posted by: Oneida | July 2, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm