By Ed O'Keefe

Aug 13, 2007 5:48pm

Elizabeth Edwards Unplugged

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: In an interview in August’s edition of The Progressive magazine, Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former Senator John Edwards, D-N.C., takes candid shots at the other candidates battling for the Democratic nomination against her husband.

"The problem for me with the other candidates is I don’t know what it is that drives them," she explained, "I should think the president has to be somebody who has that kind of vision outside themselves."

Mrs. Edwards praised her husband for apologizing for his vote in favor of the Iraq War, and questioned Senator Hillary Clinton’s, D-N.Y., for not doing the same.

"She even, in the New Hampshire debate said, ‘I made a mistake.’ People are looking for a mea culpa from her. And when she buried a line like that –- I give her credit for saying that –- but when she buries that line… we’re electing a leader of the free world, and just like the votes on this last funding bill, we’re looking for a leader," Edwards contended.

And while Senator Barack Obama, D-Ill., was in the Illinois state legislature and not the Senate in 2003, Mrs. Edwards equally questioned his motives.

"Obama gives a speech that’s likely to be extraordinarily popular in his home district," Edwards said, "and then comes to the Senate and votes for funding… so you are going to get people behaving in a holier-than-thou way."

Mrs. Edwards was similarly no-holds-barred on the issue of health care.

"Hillary is saying we need to develop a political will," Mrs. Edwards stated, referencing her personal battle with cancer and the stories she’s heard from other patients who can’t afford health care, "She hasn’t been talking to people if she thinks we need to develop it. We do not."

Taking aim at Obama, Mrs. Edwards continued, "I don’t know why it took six months, but I’m glad he has a (health care) plan now. It doesn’t cover fifteen million people. If you’re one of those fifteen million, it’s not universal for you. The fact that he says he’ll fix it later, that’s not the kind of bold response we need on a problem that is important to America."

Mrs. Edwards added that any divide in the Democratic party this year among the candidates is the difference between "actual Democrats and rhetorical Democrats."

"Sometimes it seems we have these beliefs but it turns out it’s like a Hollywood set: It’s a facade and there’s no guts behind it," Mrs. Edwards asserts in the interview, "You listen to the language of what people say, particularly Obama, who seems to be using a lot of John’s 2004 language, which is maybe not surprisingly since one of his speechwriters was one of our speechwriters, his media guy was our media guy. These people know John’s mantra as well as anybody could know it."

"They’ve moved from ‘hope is on the way’," the potential first lady concluded, "to the ‘audacity of hope’. I’m constantly hearing things in a familiar tone."

User Comments

I have a great deal of respect for Elizabeth Edwards and her husband. I hope though that the politicians in the Democratic party can keep from denouncing each other and piling on, because this country is in a mess and we need to change the entire administration and get rid of a good many Congress people and Senators on both sides of the isle that have become permanent fixtures around D.C. None care about the American people, just getting re-elected, the perks and fund raisers. So if her and her husband want to help then start attacking the Republicans and lay off the Dems. The American public are frothing at the mouth right now, with all the corruption, IRAQ, Katrina, the deficit, you name it. We need to pull together from every direction in order to get rid of these scumbags who have decided to make our country one of a dictatorship instead of a Democracy.
So, yes speak out Elizabeth, but please start spewing some of that questioning towards the Repubs.
I’m an independent and want to support a candidate that is in touch with AMERICANS, not with their corporate fund raisers. Thanks Sue F

Posted by: Sue Filutze | August 13, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

I do not believe Elzabeth Edwards is helping her husband any by harping on Hilary Clinton. He seems nice, but she is beginning to feel like a catty wife. Hilary does not need to say she is sorry. We know she regrets her vote and has said so, that is enough. We are not in grade school where our parents make us go and apologize for calling someone a name. Keep the banter clean Elizabeth…please

Posted by: Kris Adams | August 13, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Clinton’s and others’ vote to invade Iraq is not something she can apologize for, much less express regret just to satisfy the voters in 2008. Her vote on that issue shows that she is, after all, nothing special when it comes to integrity and character; like the others, she voted as an aspirant to the white house, not a leader. She and they knew what the right vote was but did the political calculus rather than do what was right. It was a A political cowardice equal to the McCarthy era. I wish it were not so, because except for integrity, she has it all. Any senator or congressman who cast that vote is undeserving of future service to the people. Vote them all out of office. Are we in an era where no wrong goes unpunished ? Clean house.

Posted by: pjmees | August 13, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

This country’s infrastructure is in worse shape than anyone can imagine. Tens of thousands of people in New Orleans couldn’t flee Hurricane Katrina because they had no money. They were living paycheck to paycheck. There are millions more like those people around the country. Tens of millions more are living month to month on credit card debt. Millions more are losing their jobs, homes, and pensions. Who is talking about troubles of these people? John and Elizabeth Edwards are the faint voices of these people that needs to get stronger and louder.

Posted by: cliff jones | August 13, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

elizabeth needs to go home and spend time with her kids while she can. her husband needs to try again later in his life running for president and spend time with his wife while he can .He comes across as very power hungry like Hillary Clinton. John edwards needs to quit using his wife’s illness to win “the presidency “. NO ONE IS IMPRESSED ! It makes him look VERY small. My grandma told me when I was young love is blind but you don’t have to act stupid. Elizabeth looks stupid going against Hillary and Ann Coulter, like she is John’s mother not his wife. Chris Matthews thinks “we the people” are stupid. He NEVER takes calls ( the call elizabeth made to his show while ann coulter was on was a set-up !! GROW UP JOHN NO ONE IS IMPRESSED !

Posted by: shirley ridgeway | August 13, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

chris’ point made by shirley

Posted by: pjmees | August 13, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

I thank you Elizabeth Edwards for being so… very “real”.

Posted by: Cherubim | August 13, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm

We have met this political season’s Teresa Heinz Kerry. With friends (and family) like these, John Edwards is out of the running.
Good riddance to bad haircuts.

Posted by: Greg | August 13, 2007, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Are we electing another one who wants to be “co-President”? UGH. Pipe down there Elizabeth and concentrate on your health.
Jim is right: All Dems are unplugged! Great line Jim! Vote FRED!!

Posted by: RachelW | August 13, 2007, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

I hate to say this, but Elizabeth Edwards is not unplugged; she is becoming unhinged. She claims that her husband John invented the idea of campaigning on “hope.” First, that’s an age-old theme. Second, she is stepping on her own message in suggesting that John’s speechwriters’ presence in Obama’s campaign explains the commonality; that tells me John got the idea from consultants! Third, the “audacity of hope” line that Obama uses traces back to his 1991 memoir, written while John Edwards was trying malpractice cases in North Carolina and before Obama would have heard of John Edwards. So, Elizabeth, contain yourself!

Posted by: Fred | August 13, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Does Elizabeth Edwards think John invented the word “hope”? Like, no one else can use it? I ‘hope’ she quits attacking the Dems, as someone else posted; and, if she’s going to say anything at all, target the dangerous, miserable mess the Republicans are responsible for getting us into, and focus on their weak, pathetic candidates…and would-be candidate.

Posted by: J | August 13, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Maybe a tangerine would help.

Posted by: gman | August 13, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

Keep speaking out, Elizabeth…DO NOT STOP!!! You (and John) are the only ones out there who are speaking on behalf of ALL Americans!
God help us all…Have we learned nothing from the disaster of the last two elections!!?!? Wake up, America!!!

Posted by: Julie | August 13, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm

I’m naive BUT wouldn’t it be pretty nice if all political candidates (and their spouse’s) would just tell us what they would do to move this once great country forward and cut out the mudslinging, name calling, etc., that serves no purpose??????

Posted by: 123janderson | August 13, 2007, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

When senators and representatives have to wait months for an appointment with a doctor (like normal people do), wait hours in a waiting room to see one (like we all do), live in areas were doctors are not that great (like I do), you get what you can get (like I do) then life for these jerks will change. They get any doctor they want, they go to the best government facilities know to man, it is totally free, no waiting it is all at their convenience. This is disgusting. Make health care services and quality the same for me as they have. I want to use Bethesda and not wait, get the best doctors they have and pay nothing. Then it is equal. They make enough money to pay their own health care. Why should I? Is that what good ole Hillary will give us all? I want equality just like her’s.

Posted by: steve | August 13, 2007, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Can’t you see John Edwards is a fake! Perhaps more so than Hillary.
He made his money chasing ambulances, suing companies and jacking up health care rates. Now he wants to reform it. A bit disingenuous.

Posted by: Viv | August 13, 2007, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

John Edwards….the one-hit-wonder senator from NC…couldn’t get reelected in his own state much less POTUS. He’s a laughingstock, slimy, ambulance-chaser.

Posted by: Mimi | August 13, 2007, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm

Hmmmm… how First Lady like, coming to the defense of her husband, setting the tone for Presidential candidates to emulate, defining the issues of our day. “Holier than thou”, a phrase that gives new validity to that long since abandoned term “uppity.”

Posted by: jggrimm | August 13, 2007, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Elizabeth is turning into John’s mommy dearest. Enough already. If johnny can’t speak for himself how in the world is he going to speak for America.

Posted by: lee | August 13, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm

I think that Elizabeth Edwards criticisms are in some instances fair and in some instances not. But the fact remains: she is not running for anything. I wonder how Elizabeth constantly going on the attack for her husband, who is ostensibly the candidate, looks to other people. To me, it makes him look weak. And, parenthetically, why is Hillary’s apology for her vote any less valid than Elizabeth’s husband’s apology?

Posted by: Robert | August 13, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Well, her and John killed
about three thousand trees
to build their 28,000 square
foot dream house but,
as Elizabeth pointed out-
they only have one fireplace.
My God, they’re good for
this country!

Posted by: jimboster | August 13, 2007, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

Personally I love to read these stories of Elizabeth and John because I believe what they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They are proving that one way to beat the opposition is to sit back and let them destroy themselves. Each time I read a story about them, John in particular, they are reacting to all kinds of things with such anger and bitterness. A president cannot react to national or international issues out of emotion, that’s what immature people do. You have to use your head. They dont seem to, in my view.

Posted by: Teresa | August 13, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Keep at it liberals we conservatives love to see you talk catty about each other and oh by the way people it’s politics it is indeed a blood sport…and neither Edwards or Clinton can apologize for their votes to send the military to die for their “mistaken” vote, that is just very Vietnam of them and we know how that protecting America has worked for them since 9-11 it doesn’t. Cowardice will not win the Presidency.

Posted by: Jaded | August 13, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm

Obama opposed the war becuase he thought the war was a terrible idea. Edwards supported the war becuase he feared opposing it would hurt his future political ambitions. It’s not hard to see who comes out on top here.

Posted by: MikeS | August 13, 2007, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm

I would take the health care plan that our members of congress have. And their retirement, but S.S. is good enough for the rest of us, but not them.
Yep! two Americas, The liberal rich and the liberal congresses pay, health care, retirement.
You Democrats keep thinking their really going to help you.
And be shined on again.

Posted by: freetothink | August 13, 2007, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Millions of people are not losing their jobs or their homes. What planet do some of you live on anyway?
More Americans own their own homes than at any time in our nation’s history. And unemployment hasn’t ever been lower in my lifetime.
Even with the tax cuts, the federal government took in more money in taxes in 2005 and 2006 than ever before in our nation’s history.
Honestly, some of you need to get a grip.

Posted by: Mary Beth Seaha | August 13, 2007, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

Everyone keeps harping about Katrina, crime, education, health care, etc. If you’re sick and tired of this, why in the world do you keep electing Democrats in office, who have lied about caring for you and haven’t come up with a sensible solution to any of our problems. And may I just add…take a look at who’s running the local governments in New Orleans, Baltimore, etc. and you’ll find a surprising element that matches in all cities with high crime, poverty, high welfare rolls. I’m stating a fact, so you can’t call me any names for it. But everyone in those cities continues to support Democrats, so I feel no sorrow for them.

Posted by: Pam | August 13, 2007, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Elizabeth? can John come out to play???

Posted by: ea | August 13, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

at least Obama can talk for himself!

Posted by: ea | August 13, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

All I see is another man and woman trying to be like the Clintons.
King and Queen of America.
It didnt work for the Clintons and it wont work for the Edwards’s

Posted by: Spastic Jack | August 13, 2007, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm

He reminds me of male model. I can’t see him as President of anything. And yeah she should stay home with kids with the time she has left instead of picking fights with folks.

Posted by: Tasha | August 13, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Robert, you missed the point. There cannot be a valid apology for that vote, from any senator or representative. It was an unforgiveable vote. None who voted to invade Iraq are fit to lead this country. They ignored the facts on the ground in favor of going the way the wind was blowing. At least the republicans can say they went with their party and president -they’ve got the “stupidity” excuse. The dems voted “yes” because they were afraid to vote “no”, then they jumped in a hole and hid until the wind blew the other way now they are out with their criticisms -they’ve got the “cowardly” excuse. Which do you prefer? I’m neither a rep or dem, but stupid can at least be trained – if not educated.

Posted by: pjmees | August 13, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

I am so glad the tarnish is finally coming off of Obama. Its so funny. His supporters actually think that he is more than a politician. I don’t know who is actually more naive him or his supporters. Example, he keeps going on and on about how he did not support the war. first of all he was not in the senate, he was a democrat in an liberal state senate district i mean come on. I can’t wait for the average American to find out he use to be a coke head, he will go down quicker than fast.

Posted by: bluedog | August 13, 2007, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

She is so outta control and no one can respond or they will be accused of attacking a dying, grieving mother.

Posted by: dwin | August 13, 2007, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Oh, please. Your husband wanted the war and Obama didn’t. Deal with it!

Posted by: steven | August 13, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm

i thenk bush is the best pres this country has seen in a long time he has made some difficolt choices and i thenk once he is gone evry one will see how good he realy was all the things that he has done right i thenk hees made the right choices i just hope the next pres ceeps os safe as good as he has

Posted by: stumpnokker | August 13, 2007, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Let’s face it, we have no candidates worth considering. People who volunteer for the job usually do it for the wrong reasons.
I think it’s time to send these wannabes packing and find a few intelligent people who know how things work.
My choice would be Trey Parker and Matt Stone. They understand America better than any of these candidates.

Posted by: Stan | August 13, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Look you have three vaporius airheads looking to win the dem nod, Mrs. Bill Clinton who has done nothing but be Mrs. Bill Clinton. You have Barrak who knows nothing of nothing and the hair guy , who makes Vinnie from welcome back Kotter look like a genius. What kind of debate of the issues do you expect. The left wing media will keep blowing smoke up these guys (gals) yangs, inflating there stature. But in the end they have no ideas for the future, no grasp of the past and only failure in the future.

Posted by: Eugene Boyanton | August 13, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

I would much rather see the Edwards as philanthropists, putting their money to good use, than in this “more style than substance” campaign.
Any man or woman who would mimic the cry of an unborn child to win a jury trial, but then be pro-choice as a candiate is too conflicted to me.
Any man or woman who would decry the plight of the poor while taking advantage of every aspect of this “gilded age”, is too convoluted for me.
I will not and can not support this man for office.

Posted by: Mom in Texas | August 13, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

john is a fake i lafe evry time i see him tolk on cam lolololo

Posted by: stumpnokker | August 13, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

stan has it right

Posted by: stumpnokker | August 13, 2007, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

The media’s bottoming out. They’re actually reporting what the spouses of candidates have to say.
Don’t get me wrong – I have a great deal of sympathy for what she’s gone through with cancer and a dead son, but so what? Does that make her an expert on politics?

Posted by: Josey2006 | August 13, 2007, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Keep screaming Liz. Makes you and your husband sound just like the socialists you are. You people that want the government to ‘fix’ everything should hop a slow boat to Russia. I just stay here and keep working for a living- thank you.

Posted by: iadude10 | August 13, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

Can’t the former Senator speak for himself? Guess if he needs his wife to speak for him, can’t see votong for him as he’ll just be a PUPPET and Eliz will be the real leader. Looks like she already is in their marriage.
Towncrier

Posted by: TOWNCRIER | August 13, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

Don’t tell me we have another Bill-ery… Who’s running ‘Lizbeth or Pretty-Boy? No way I’ll vote for John-abeth-I’m-so-down-home-county-fried-’Eddards.

Posted by: Steve | August 13, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

i am an undecided dem…i respect mrs edwards but am getting tired of her already. she needs to tone it down a bit.

Posted by: ge | August 13, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

All I could stomach to read was the headline. My comment,…All Politicians act “hollier-than-thou.”

Posted by: Doug | August 13, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

Mrs. Edwards is correct in her analysis. Nobel Prize winning economist Pau Krugman believes that us little people who pay taxes have had more than $ 1 trillion siphoned out of our pockets for the Iraq war (occupation). So we are heading for two trillion now. That’s a lot of our money to be siphoned off to Bush’s oil company buddies. Meanwhile, we are the only advanced industrialized nation in the world (are we still industrialized?) with no universal healthcare program. We also have a crumbling infrastructure and a broken educational system and the little people who pay taxes are being raced to the bottom here. Those staggering donations (bribes) from special interest groups translate into “nothing for the people”. I think one candidate recntly said “I’m your girl”. Why don’t some of these people show a little integrity by doing something to stop this corrupt administration, and stop sucking up to it, and playing word games?
I think Mrs. Edwards is right. If these people only just want to be president and are willing to sell themselves and the public interest for it, maybe they shouldn’t be elected president. That’s what we have as president now. How could an honest person go around boasting of not voting for the war (if he had been in office and had a chance to vote for it, he probably would have voted for it) and then vote (when he is in office) to fund it? Whenever, someone talks free trade, you know there is something slick (ala NAFTA) going on. “My Girl” would fill every job in America with lowly-paid immigrants brought over on special visas to benefit her big business buddies, and to cheat Americans out of jobs.

Posted by: Richard Laird | August 13, 2007, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Wives of candidates are allowed to have opinions, and I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth Edwards opinion. They both impress me as smart people who genuinely care about the working people of this country.

Posted by: James | August 13, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

I like Elizabeth, but someone should tell her that John did not invent the word “hope.”
I think she looks small when she calls in to argue with freako Coulter, or when she puts down Obama and Hillary.
John had his shot four years ago, and the party has moved on. And I remember clearly his strong support for the war in Iraq. Maybe if he voted against it, or admitted what a mistake it was four years ago, he could have won.

Posted by: Bob | August 13, 2007, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm

The Edwards`s are condescending windbags and are the laughing stock of North Carolina.

Posted by: Ilovefreedom | August 13, 2007, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

The narcissism of today is incalculable. My wife cuts my hair and she lets me fight my own battles. As a military Brat I am grateful for a country that allows me to be responsible for my own actions – Mrs. Edwards and her ilk should mind her space and leave me an mine ours.

Posted by: Gene | August 13, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

I hope her interview was more coherent than it sounded in the article. If anybody in politics has a “holier than thou” attitude it’s the Edwards, especially Mrs. Edwards. She’s married to an ambulance chasing lawyer and now she thinks she’s an expert on national health care.

Posted by: robert hoffman | August 13, 2007, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Cliff,
You asking for directions … or do you have a point?

Posted by: Gene | August 13, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm

Talk about smarmy, the extortionist and the woman who loves him (or is just riding the crest of his hubrus) but we can’t critisize her because she has CANCER! God I hope the average american starts to see through the elites running the democratic party who can’t even consider the citizens of this country as reasonably intelegent people who can think and do for themselves one hell of a lot better than some power hungry leach wanting to go to Washington. They can’t even discuss the people of this country in other than pejoritive terms. I don’t know about you but I’m certinally not a “little person” and the sooner any of us stop thinking we are, the better off this entire country will be. We don’t need these lying populists running our lives so they can have their kicks being in power not to mention robbing the wealth of this nation blind. Do you ever wonder how the Clintons got from Hillary having a good job and Bill unemployed with a weak pension as ex governor of Arkansas and a mortgage to multi millionaires in eight short years? And then have to steal $160,000 worth of furniture when the left? Who in their right mind would want these people living in their neighborhood much less running their country?

Posted by: Bud the fly guy | August 13, 2007, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

I can’t believe that there are people in America stupid enough to buy the Edwards’ con job. Do as I say. People, you get what you deserve. My money’s heading offshore.

Posted by: Elmer | August 13, 2007, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm

Trial lawyers like John Edwards have contributed to the demise of our healthcare system. This cannot be denied and is a telling piece of John Boy’s character. Yes, I think Obama is holier than JE. 99% of the population is. Next question.

Posted by: kmartin | August 13, 2007, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Anyone who has a HMO and still wants the government to supply us with an Universal Health plan seriously needs to check into their plans mental health coverage. Who in their right mind wants a politican telling a doctor how to be a doctor? It’s bad enough that insurance companies think that they are doctors. And have mercy on the sick people that draw a Pharamceutical company owned doctor. Do you really think that these people care one ounce for “We the People”? Congress needs to be subject to the same term limitations as the President. And face the same health care issues that the rest of us do.

Posted by: Diana | August 13, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

The Edwards`s are condescending windbags and are the laughing stock of North Carolina.
Posted by: Ilovefreedom | Aug 13, 2007 9:18:40 PM
I live in North Carolina, and I can vouch for that

Posted by: tmoore | August 13, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm

I have never seen such a bunch freakin whining little babies in my life. Whenever I listen to the democrats it sounds like freakin Romper Room. Everybody’s whining and sniveling about something. The president of the United States IS NOT YOUR FREAKIN MOMMY AND DADDY. Grow the HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Keith | August 13, 2007, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

You know your campaign is in trouble when the candidate is constantly out quoted by his spouse!

Posted by: geddesman | August 13, 2007, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

Elizabeth Edwards, like my mother, is battling a life-threatening disease, and for that she has my respect. Yet the minute she opens her mouth she loses it by shilling for a guy who is already himself the ultimate phony shill. The two of them sit in that massive conference center of a house and talk about “two Americas”…and to then rave on about “fixing healthcare” when haircut-and-smile legal chiselers like John Edwards have done more to destroy the U.S. healthcare system than any other individuals in the history of this nation. My personal preference would be to send Hillary, Barack, Rudy and Fred to the White House–all four of them–and let four adults tackle the devastating problems facing our nation and the world. As for the Edwards: first they should apologize on Fox News to their next-door neighbor who they ridiculed in the national media. Then they should see if The View is through with its has-been comedian revolving door and may hire them as a husband-and-wife team to sit in “the fourth chair” next to Prime Minister Walters.

Posted by: Rex Range | August 13, 2007, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm

Maybe Elizabeth Edwards can debate the other Democrats on Fox News, since her husband is too chicken to do it. And if he can’t stand up to Musharraf or Ahmedinejad, she’ll do it for him!

Posted by: David | August 13, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

My daddy told me a long time ago that you can tell who a man really is not by what he says, but by what he does. Actions spoke louder than words to Daddy.
Daddy was a Democrat, but he wouldn’t like any of the Democrats running this year. He wouldn’t like the Republicans either, but then he never did.
I am my father’s son. I care about the poor a whole lot more than John and Liz Edwards do. I respect women a whole lot more than Bill Clinton does.
I could never be elected though, because if you asked me what I thought I’d tell you the truth. I’d tell you that the real problem in this country is that too many people are sitting on their ever expanding backsides with their hands out and their mouths open. I’d tell them to get off of those backsides and get to work improving themselves. I’d tell them that the reason we have so many poor in this country is because people make bad choices. I am unelectable because I don’t lie.
John Edwards, on the other hand, will say anything to get the job. So will Obama. So will Hillary. So will every Republican in the race.
Daddy was wrong. In 2007 America, words are all that matters any more.

Posted by: Daddy's Son | August 13, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

Richard Laird — Paul Krugman has not won the Nobel Prize, so from the start you completely discredit your post.

Posted by: David | August 13, 2007, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Who is running for President….John or Elizabeth Edwards? It seems to me that the only Edwards I am hearing these days is Elizabeth. If John Edwards wins is his wife going to run the country for him also? I can’t respect a candidate who let’s thier spouse do all the talking. Speak up John and start acting like a candidate and a leader or you are going to lose.

Posted by: Mark | August 13, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm

We need to elect David Walker, United States Comptroller General, as President. He is the only person telling it like it is. He says we are overspending and need to fix our irresponsible policies NOW–or we are going to slowly, or perhaps suddenly, see our economic downfall. He has said that repeatedly throughout the last year. He travels across the U.S. giving speeches pleading for Americans to wake up and solve our economic problems. Too bad it isn’t covered much in the mainstream media–and not at all by those poor excuses of political candidates for President.

Posted by: Loryienne | August 13, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

John Edwards should be embarrassed. Why can’t his wife control herself, he’s running for president! At least we can see the real side of this family before we have to vote for them. Whew, dodged that crazy train!

Posted by: Voter | August 13, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

With all due respect Elizabeth, your husband is an astute politician also. Rallying for the poor but ignoring the poor very close to your mansion. I know because I volunteer close by your neighborhood. I haven’t seen or heard from either one of you. Please practice what you preach. Why go to New Orleans when abject poverty is in your backyard?

Posted by: evelyn smith | August 13, 2007, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm

Man of the poor people who gets 400 haircuts. What a joke

Posted by: george | August 13, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Is she Teresa Heinz Kerry Jr.?

Posted by: Ken Gregory | August 13, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Cliff Jones: Folks who are living welfare payment to welfare payment is a WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT than living paycheck to paycheck.
Richard Laird: Paul Krugman is a famous Lefty toady who has ZERO CREDIBILITY as an economist.

Posted by: secant | August 13, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

It certainly looks like Sn Edwards has opted to use his sick wife to do some of his scrapping. She is not doing him any favors though. Edwards will not last the pace and unfortunately Obama has shown his inexperience in recent weeks. It appears that it’s in the bag for Hillary.

Posted by: Mordecai Epstein | August 13, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Oh – puhleeze – are we really going to have to listen to the “how to help the poor people” for the next 12 months? Yes people live beyond their means – EVERY DAY. The government cannot and SHOULD not prevent that. Consider the HIGH number of welfare recipients in New Orleans. YET they were still poor. What more do you expect from the government? Why did so many people ESCAPE poverty? Certainly NOT because someone gave them more $$$ – they escaped because they took work and educational opportunties, combined it with fortitude, dug in, and then DUG OUT. Any politician who wants to destroy the American Drive gets NO vote from me.

Posted by: JanH | August 13, 2007, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

John Edwards is a big phoney. He is pandering to those who have been dumbed down and are thinking they are “entitled”. More government programs before getting rid of the ones that don’t work or are being abused by the “victims”. While I belive in helping those who are in need to get up on their feet, I don’t believe the safety net should be a hammock. Most of the DEMS running are simply wanting to make the hammock larger and at what expense? They want to help the poor by enslaving them in government programs they weigh them down and keep them from becoming productive citizens. Don’t believe me? Go into any large city and look around. The Liberal Dems have run most large cities for decades, while there have been pockets of improvement most areas are crime ridden and in further decay. Also, they push the problems into the nearby suburbs. The only thing I hear from most Dems voters is the government is supposed to help and provide the necessities they should be providing themselves. More of the same lines we here in every election. These citizens are being bribed with their own and others’ money and haven’t yet figured it out. Nothing is free somebody somewhere is paying. Universal Healthcare and Public Schools are being funded by the taxpayer and most of the money is wasted in administration of these programs. Social Security is a big white elephant that costs those of us who contribute money because the return is pitiful. By just investing the same money we give to the SSA in US Savings Bonds, we could double and triple our monthly benefits and we keep the principle to pass onto our heirs. Wake up America! These folks just want more control of our money and lives.

Posted by: thefoundingfathers | August 13, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

She’s great! Another Teresa Heinz-Kerry.
THK the SECOND!
BTW, is she running or is her husband? And why is she fighting all his battles for him?

Posted by: LOL | August 13, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

I am soooooo tired of people saying Senator Clinton has not said the magic words “I’m sorry”. Does Mrs. Edwards think that makes the vote go away – is it just that simple? Gee, I’m sorry – now make the bad vote go away. A few words to both Mrs. Edwards and those of you want Senator Clinton to say your magic words – think about the idea of having a president who will be accountable for their action! What a concept. No – saying I’m sorry does not make it go away – and I for one respect Senator Clinton for taking accountability for her vote and doing something about it.

Posted by: Ilene | August 13, 2007, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm

Elizabeth Edwards is very annoying. Let her husband speak for himself. As far as Hillary supporting the war and changing her mind, does not bother me at all. I supported the war and GW and now realize now how wrong I was. Why should we fault Hillary when a good percentage of us did the same?

Posted by: Melissa | August 13, 2007, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

I am sick of hearing people say that Edwards is using his wife. Has anyone thought that perhaps Bill is using his wife to get back into the sphere of power he so craves?

Posted by: monk | August 13, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

I agree that Elizabeth Edwards seems very annoying. She starts denouncing all these other people, most of whom agree with her husband 90% of the time. Why does she have such an attitude problem? Why all the bitterness, and the anger, and the viciousness? Maybe she is becoming delusional. It really makes no sense to me. She has the right to say whatever she wants, but most of it is just downright rude and inappropriate.

Posted by: Jan | August 13, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

Elizabeth Edwards is participating in a classic politician’s game: the candidate modulates his comments, trying to appear “presidential,” and “above the fray,” while a surrogate throws below-the-belt punches to soften up his opponents. In this case the Edwardses think they can get away with it because anybody who takes a good hard shot at Elizabeth can be accused of being insensitive. (What with her health problems and all.)
John Edwards is a gold-plated phony who decries the plight of America’s working people but didn’t have any problem with taking 30 to 40 percent of their money while he was a slip-and-fall lawyer playing for big stakes against fat cats. He doesn’t deserve any sympathy, and if his wife thinks she can beat up on other candidates with impunity, she’s got another think coming.
Frankly, I wouldn’t vote Democrat in any event, but in a field already stuffed with tough-talking hypocrites John Edwards takes the cake. And his wife shouldn’t get any special consideration because she has cancer.

Posted by: Ed Hulse | August 13, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

You guys can badmouth her all you want, but her and her husband are the only ones calling it like it is.
There really are two Americas, what has Hillary even tried to do about it in her time in the senate? Talk about power hungry, she reeks of it.
As for Obama, haven’t we had enough of untested polititians? Dumbya was similarly untested (one government job that his daddy’s friends helped him buy). Obama’s too green, not too black.
Hillary and Obama are straw men, there only to give the illusion of ‘choice’. They might as well be republicans, and are indeed, rhetorical Democrats.

Posted by: Cid | August 13, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

actually there are at least 47 americas and i think the dem candidates are looking for all of them. rich am, poor am, white am, black am, spanish am, puerto rico am, russian am, slave am, working am, catholic am, quaker am, underclass am, project am, country cklub am, german am, irish am, jewish am, west coast, east coast, souther, midwestern, gay am, happy am, young am, senior citizen and don’t forget idiots who believe in voting america.

Posted by: bigdawg169 | August 13, 2007, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

What Elizabeth Edwards states is, of course, is exactly right.

Posted by: biocon | August 13, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

what a jerk edwards is…. allowing his ill wife to get herself all worked up for him. if he were any kind of man, he would spend time with his family and forget about his own selfish needs. stress is a killer!!!!!

Posted by: jackie | August 13, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Richard Laird: If you think pay that ranges from $100 a day for picking strawberries, to $12 dollars an hour for changing diapers in nursing homes, to $30 an hour for putting on roofs, I question your expertise.
These folks DO NOT COME HERE TO WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES. They can get low paying jobs at home without the travel and the aggrevation.
Remember, making statements that cannot be proven is not evidence, it is OPINION.

Posted by: secant | August 13, 2007, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

E. Edwards seems to be very petty and holier-than-thou while her husband is a spineless opportunist whose greatest achievement was winning a case where a child’s organs were sucked from the drain of a swimming pool. He did little for the state of NC than use it to propel his Presidential campaign(s). People are seeing through his dog and pony show.

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2007, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

Another example why the campaigning shouldn’t start two years before the day of an election. To much time to talk, and few care what you have to say.

Posted by: TC | August 13, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

I love Matt Drudge! He should run for President.

Posted by: Lindsey | August 13, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Run, John, Run!
Elizabeth Edwards: First Lady ’08!

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Now that there’s a Drudge link to this story, all the wingnuts are gonna storm in here, badmouth Elizabeth by telling her she’s too sick to speak her mind. They’ll also call John a “phony” (but they’ll probably spell it “phoney”) because he scares the hell out of them and the only way they can win is by sliming him. All the personal attacks just show the opposition is much, much too scared to talk about issues. John Edwards tells it like it is, isn’t afraid to take on the entrenched interests, and will make America stronger, smarter, and healthier. Can’t wait til he’s the next President of the United States.

Posted by: Bill | August 13, 2007, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

Let us all pray for the health of Mrs. Edwards. Lord, we remember at this time Mrs. Edwards, and not her only but all who are similarly situated. We prayer for healing and restoration, in Jesus name. Amen!

Posted by: John Hoskins | August 13, 2007, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm

Well..well…from the comments here,
I see that Elizabeth Edwards has succeeded again: She, always, brings the presidential election back to a discussion about would be best for the American people. Thank you, Elizabeth.
God Bless You.

Posted by: Cherubim | August 13, 2007, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

Damn I’m so tired of these idiots! I’ll vote for anybody else but these three stooges.

Posted by: Disdainful | August 13, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm

John and Elizabeth need to keep it up. As a life long Dem, I can tell you that John is the only real Dem running. The others don’t stand for the little man like John. He is the only one that really believes that our nations ills can only be corrected by our nation comming together collectively. We need to drastically raise taxes on everyone. Especially the middle class and rich. We need the Universal Health care that John and Elizabeth talk about, even if that means means more taxes. It is not fair that only the rich can afford good health.
We need to sit accross the table from our enemies rather then fighting with them. I think we can learn a great deal from Fidel Castro and Hugo (I call him Hugo because I feel he is like a big lovable fuzzy teddy bear, and he stands up against Bush). John and Elizibeth are the only ones who have truely talked about doing that. I know, Ohbama talked about it, but back tracked.
John and Elizibeth, keep it up. We need your special brand of Socialism. You are not embarassed to say so. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Wilson | August 14, 2007, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Wilson, learn to spell first. Then learn to think.

Posted by: disdainful | August 14, 2007, 12:05 am 12:05 am

Edwards is a leader. He sets his position, Clinton and Obama follow. We need a leader, Edwards is the man.

Posted by: Maecus Aurelius | August 14, 2007, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Elizabeth Edwards is starting to get a little stale by doing all of the heavy lifting for her husband. Why doesn’t he say these things if the campaign thinks they need to be said. It is getting to the point where I wish that she would just shut up.

Posted by: DallasNE | August 14, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am

Disdainful – No attack ever fed a hungry child. Think about that.

Posted by: Wilson | August 14, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Lets talk about the National Debt! China and Russia are about to bury us. We’re 8-10 Trillion in debt and our dollar, economy, housing and trade is going south on us. We Are Owned! These idiots running for President don’t care, they just want the power, respect and perks the job offers and Lie everyday to get it.

Posted by: Boomer | August 14, 2007, 12:21 am 12:21 am

Instead of finding fault withElizabeth Edwards, all you Democrats should be delighted at the prospect of having such a sincere, intelligent and progressive first lady. John Edwards has come up with more concrete solutions for our country’s problems than any of the other candidates. He actually recognizes what our problems are! If the Democrats really want to win the presidency, they’ll wise up and go with Edwards. Hillary is aligned with corporate interests; she has too much baggage to win anyhow. And let’s face it, there are still plenty of racists who would deliberately support anyone running against Obama. Recent polls show that Edwards is the only Democrat who could beat all of the Republican candidates.

Posted by: Helen Hanna | August 14, 2007, 12:24 am 12:24 am

John Edwards??? Isn’t he running for class president?

Posted by: COgirl | August 14, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am

I like this discussion. Sounds like all the repubs are really scared of the Edwards. More so than Hillary or Obama. They’ve got their slime mode in high gear. Hee…

Posted by: Ellie | August 14, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am

Helen is right. Only Edwards could beat all the Republicans running. They don’t have a chance. Edwards would clean their clocks. All the right wingers would stay home because they would know that they would not have a chance. Everyone would vote for Edwards because of all the benefits that they would get from an Edwards administration. It’s a no brainer.

Posted by: Wilson | August 14, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am

A classic example of why I left the Democrat Party. When you disagree with the Dems, you are the 3 E’s-Evil, the enemy and an extremist. I’m waiting for more intense invective to come.

Posted by: James | August 14, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am

Oh, c’mon, James. You were never a member of the democratic party. You don’t even know it’s name.

Posted by: Ellie | August 14, 2007, 12:35 am 12:35 am

Elizabeth Edwards is a strong and courageous woman who I think we should all look up to. She and her husband are the only politicians who really do understand ‘the people.’ Elizabeth quit a flourishing career to tutor underprivileged children in a community center that she and her husband set up. No one has been able to come up with any evidence to show that John Edwards is an ambulance chaser or that any of his cases were frivolous. John Edwards fought for people who didn’t have a voice, and that’s what he continues to do. Even if you don’t agree with his opinions, you still have to respect him for his integrity. I wholeheartedly believe that John and Elizabeth Edwards are looking out for all of our best interests because that’s the kind of people that they are. They’re not phony, they’re not slimy, they’re just good, honest, hard working people who didn’t have life handed to them with a silver spoon. I hope Elizabeth continues to speak out as much as she can.

Posted by: Anna | August 14, 2007, 12:36 am 12:36 am

Come on Anna. Let’s be real. No one cares about what a nice guy Edwards is. Everyone knows he is nice and sincere. What we democrats really care about is who can win the White House. With all the branches of government, think about what we could accomplish.
John is the only one that can beat the republicans. They are really scared of him. Go John.

Posted by: wi | August 14, 2007, 12:42 am 12:42 am

This election is too important to our country and the millions of people who are suffering not to question and evaluate the candidates. This is not highschool. This is not a game. It is crucial that serious questions be asked, and differences in positions be pointed out. Elizabeth Edwards loves not just her husband, but her country. She is fighting so hard because she believes that her husband is the kind of leader we need to solve the serious problems we are facing on so many fronts. While Hillary speaks according to her audience, and Obama is so carefully managed, John Edwards has led the way on all the key issues, to the point where they have begun not to just follow him, but actually copy his phrases, his words. Edwards has had the courage to take positions that are not politically cautious and expedient, and he tells us the truth, without innuendo, without artifice. We have had nearly eight years of dishonest politics. While the career politicians do politics as usual, John Edwards is addressing the crises we need addressed, head-on. It’s time we stopped the cute comments and the game-playing on these blogs, and get serious about electing the right person for President.

Posted by: Johanna Dordick | August 14, 2007, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Mrs Edwards is talking like she is the mama of John, who is a trial lawyer the worst of the lot and who have destroyed the medical profession as it existed in past and who continued to work for hedge fund since his work as a senator. He also gave speaches for a pretty penny and gives lectures to others. He voted for Iraq war and listen to him now. $400 hair cut 29000 square foot home what is he waiting for ?

Posted by: P.C.Barman | August 14, 2007, 12:51 am 12:51 am

Shirley Ridgeway,
I’m impressed (with Edwards, not with you).
Who are you to suggest what these two people should or shouldn’t do? And please don’t speak for me, either. This woman is courageous and intelligent, and she wants to spend the rest of her life putting her husband in a position to help this country. That’s how much she believes in him – that’s how much she loves this country. What a great legacy to leave to us and to her children.
Thanks to Bush & Co, we are left with a country in shambles, facing formidable problems for which there will be no easy fixes. It’s going to take courage, vision, and moral fortitude to guide this country through the hell that awaits us. Edwards and his wife have those qualities, and unlike any other feasible candidate, they really understand what “real” Americans are challenged by now. Bush has completely disassembled the New Deal, leaving the middle class to rot in our over-priced houses and over-drawn credit. The only candidate out there who’s going to fight for my family is Edwards. So, go get them ELizabeth, and thank you from the bottom of my soul!

Posted by: R | August 14, 2007, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Hey R, how can you blame george bush for your lousy spending habits? Take some responsibility. Stop living outside your means, and stop expecting the government to bail you out. That isn’t why they are there.

Posted by: steve | August 14, 2007, 1:14 am 1:14 am

Geez, shut up…..your husband looks wimpy and tied to your apron strings…..

Posted by: kitty hogan | August 14, 2007, 1:22 am 1:22 am

One haircut for the ‘layar’ from Caro-lina = $400.
Square footage of the mansion @ 28,000 value = $5,000,000.00
Democrats electing a big hair liberal ambulance chaser layer for President = Incaculable

Posted by: Mick | August 14, 2007, 1:23 am 1:23 am

This is a clear case of Mrs. Edwards taking advantage of her health situation to spew basically inane comments about other candidates secure in the knowledge that nobody will rebut by giving her the attack she deserves. The media has basically no choice but to report the story, but we as voters should take her jib-jab with all the gravity which it merits: none.

Posted by: Heywood | August 14, 2007, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Elizabeth Edwards = Marie Antoinette. She pretends to care about the poor, then belittles her next door neighbor’s property as “slummy” because he isn’t a millionaire like her. Constantly criticizing the other candidates, blabbering away incessantly.

Posted by: clint | August 14, 2007, 1:47 am 1:47 am

johnny reid edwards did not grow up poor that is just another hoax. like channeling the child through his body. does he believe in the supernatural?
his father was a mill supervisor who made decent money for the 50′s and his mother was a post office employee.
they were not POOR. despite what HOAX, inc. the resume writing factory tells you. it is NOT true.

Posted by: igdawg169 | August 14, 2007, 1:47 am 1:47 am

I believe there was a man who was from Hope who became president in 1992. His theme song was ‘Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow and Clinton constantly stressed hope. Before Clinton there was ‘morning in America’ by Reagan. Edwards did not invent this strategy.

Posted by: JJ | August 14, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am

I’d vote for Satan before I’d vote for John Edwards.

Posted by: Maxxzilla | August 14, 2007, 1:55 am 1:55 am

The Edwards just like the Clintons are hypocrites and have their Democratic base as their slaves.

Posted by: John Miranda | August 14, 2007, 1:59 am 1:59 am

Edwards all the pocket-picking charm of a huskster televangelist, Elizabeth’s his ‘gulp’,.. weeping Tammy Faye.

Posted by: DiamondSal | August 14, 2007, 1:59 am 1:59 am

We are looking for the next president in the wrong parties. And once again we’ll end up voting for a democrat just because he is not a republican and vice versa.
We no longer have real statesmen and real leaders, only power-hungry career politicians. Decent people would not enter into this billion-dollar-wasting-mud-slinging-contest.
The election system is corrupt, time to fix it or live with the results.
The real issues are not gay marriage or abortion or which candidate smoked pot in college. Who cares?
The real issues are the growing number of powerful hostile nations like China, Russia and the Islamic nations.
We have no friends or allies any more, only a few countries who depend on maintaining a friendly relation with the US even if they hate us (like Israel for example).
And above all, we are losing our individual freedom and privacy.
If you find someone who can deal with these issues, try to convince him to run for office. Good luck.

Posted by: Bob | August 14, 2007, 2:05 am 2:05 am

I hear so much in the media about what Elizabeth Edwards has to say about everything and everyone, and I hardly ever hear anything about her husband, you know, the one that is supposedly trying to run for president. I really don’t care what Elizabeth Edwards thinks, just the same as I’ve never cared much what Laura, Hillary, Nancy, or any of the other first ladies thought about politics and current events Elizabeth acts like she is his mother, always butting in trying to work things out for her little boy Johnny. She’s not helping him.

Posted by: S1 | August 14, 2007, 2:36 am 2:36 am

Elizabeth Edwards is right-on. She is telling it like it is.
John Edwards has had a history of fighting for “the little guy” his whole life, and as a trial attorney, would take cases against corporate abuse that were considered unwinnable. My friend who worked extensively with his law firm said he was “the real deal” and always had a passion for the underdog.
Add to that the community service that he and Elizabeth have participated in since Day 1, his work on helping struggling families (he has marched on over 200 picket lines with workers), his helping to get minimum wage increases passed in six states, his work on poverty and health care, etc., and you have someone who has concern and compassion for every living American. He also has been called “The No Baloney Candidate” by Time Magazine, because he gives honest, straightforward answers, unlike the other candidates.
I find it so interesting that the media concentrates on gossip rather than issues–let’s cover the candidates and what they stand for.
I have heard Senator Edwards speak on a number of occasions and he is intelligent, well-versed on all the issues of the day, compassionate, has bold policies, and he is willing to take on the strangelhold Corporate America has on every aspect of our lives. Perhaps that’s why the RNC recently sent out a memo to all its members to attack John at every turn.
John Edwards will be a president who fights big corporations on behalf of us “little guys.” That’s what the mainstream media and big corporations (one and the same) are so afraid of.

Posted by: Kathy Callan | August 14, 2007, 3:05 am 3:05 am

Why are you shooting Mrs. Edward’s down for stating the obvious?? I am not a big fan of Edward’s , but I wished his wife was running instead of him…we need more candidates to talk without their “cheat sheets”!
We need more authenticity in the Democratic groups.

Posted by: frieda | August 14, 2007, 3:14 am 3:14 am

I was turned off greatly by all and any comments made by Tersa Heinz. She wouldn’t stop and of course we couldn’t see her as a first lady. This looks like a similar deal here. The comments made by Elizabeth are silly and we get an idea that she will not become first lady. There you go, John. Quit while you are behind.

Posted by: gzeena | August 14, 2007, 3:49 am 3:49 am

I think Liz has got it right regarding Obama… while I could never vote for a Socialist like Hillary… I must say… Obama makes her look like a political Einstein and I hope she continues to clean his clock. He’s imploding…
Go Fred – Beat Hillary!

Posted by: Westerberg | August 14, 2007, 3:51 am 3:51 am

E. Edwards says, “Sometimes it seems we have these beliefs but it turns out it’s like a Hollywood set: It’s a facade and there’s no guts behind it.” She sees it this way because that’s how she and her husband are, and they see it in others: She then says: “one of his speechwriters was one of our speechwriters, his media guy was our media guy. These people know John’s mantra as well as anybody could know it.” She’s trying to say Obama is just a copycat, but what comes across is that Obama, like Edwards, are both players in a very phony game. Now they really, really care about poor people? Their lives up to now have not communicated this message at all. Instead, they muster their “rhetorical” empathy and try hard not to sound like “rhetorical democrats,” to use the term Ms. Edwards used against the other candidates. Having breast cancer and being rich does not mean you empathize with those who have breast cancer and are not rich. I wish it did.

Posted by: Glaciela Hernandez | August 14, 2007, 4:09 am 4:09 am

Abc News Blog
Newsflash..
Edwards will win Iowa.
Hillary will finish 3rd

Posted by: Brian | August 14, 2007, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Why are some of you taking offense to what Elizabeth Edwards is saying? She is telling the truth. I would not vote for anyone except John Edwards. He has great plans for the county and he and his wife are exceptional people.

Posted by: marie | August 14, 2007, 4:26 am 4:26 am

In reading all these posts, it seems clear that Elizabeth Edwards is wearing out her welcome. Hell, she has more to say than Bill Clinton about the race and he was once president. She should take a page from his book of behavior and stay respectfully on the sidelines. Unless Anne Coulter runs her mouth again !

Posted by: Jack | August 14, 2007, 4:56 am 4:56 am

Please no more redneck hillbilly morons who lie such as GW Bush and Fred T. For the sake of our country’s preservation we cannot risk such dangerous incompetence any longer. Four more years of the Republican’s so-called leadership and they are gonna get us all killed!! Bush and Cheyney lied(and they did and everyone knows it -deny it if you want about the war in Iraq). Worst of all this war has nothing to do with al qaeda. Less than 5 per cent of the insurgency is al qaeda. Those that are in Iraq represent al queda of Mesopotamia — get this –they are NOT related to the Bin Laden’s group. In fact over fifty percent of the terrorists in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia. That’sright. Saudi Arabia. So why isn’t Bush/Cheney threatening Saudi Arabia?? Duh. Ever hear of their pals who own the oil fields. Until the Democrats took over in the congress the Republicans DID NOTHING about enacting the requirements of the 911 Commission for protecting our ports and major cities from another big attack Bush dragged his tail. God Bless the Democrats. Shame on the lying GOP morons. By the way my facts are based on the NIE findings which also conclude that ‘Bush’s Mess’ in Iraq has HELPED to strengthen Bin Laden’s base in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bush should a had him six years ago. And when Clinton wanted to get him in ’98 the Republican congress accused Bill of trying to change to subject off of Monica, hence the Republican congress blocked his Clinton’s plan to go after Osama. And Republicans have the nerve to talk tough in terror. How dare. And now we’re 2 trillion in debt! I remember a day when Bill Clinton left the USA with a surplus. Bush Cheyney and Rove should be in jail for a list of reasons. AND IN OUR HEARTS WE ALL KNOW IT!

Posted by: RSL | August 14, 2007, 4:57 am 4:57 am

DESPERATION — That’s all it is – John’s ego needs constant feeding, and she’s willing to provide. Very sad in a way.

Posted by: LEW | August 14, 2007, 5:16 am 5:16 am

I’m leaning toward Kucinich.

Posted by: Dorothy | August 14, 2007, 6:14 am 6:14 am

It becomes obvious that much of the attacks on the three leading democratic candidates is coming from closet republicans. However, much of the attacks are valid, and it should be a clue to the DNC that as certain a victory should be in 2006, why not support a top leader instead of a top fund raiser.
I cringe at the thought of electing any candidate who was a warmonger when it was in vogue, but now wants me to excuse their stupidity. And I cringe at the thought that one of the three most vulnerable democratic candidates who are prize swift-boat targets, are going to be nominated by the DNC.
In light of the Republican diabolic debacle these past 6 years, what should should be a landslide victory in 2008, mandating the end of the Iraq hemorrhaging of our manpower and resources and anxiety, victory could be a bitter fruit with a neocon warmonger parading as a liberal anti-war advocate just to get elected.

Posted by: UNCLEJOE | August 14, 2007, 6:14 am 6:14 am

John Edwards will never be President. I wonder why no one has told him and Elizabeth that yet? I don’t say this out of spite or bitterness, it is just a fact. On the democrat side only the Hillary and Obama have a chance at the nomination. On the Republican side, only Rudy and Fred have a chance at the nomination. That is just how it is going to play out.
Ater all the ranting, raving, postiing, blogging is done, one of those 4 is going to be the next president.

Posted by: Doc Wright | August 14, 2007, 6:29 am 6:29 am

I could never vote for a Democrat or a “progressive.” I really dislike that word. It means “lets change everything, and not especially for the better!!” John Edwards, I’m afraid, is simply a phony. The Democrats cannot get along with ANY Republicans so they must go – every one of them.

Posted by: M. Sumler | August 14, 2007, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Goodness, Liz forgot what she told Ann Coulter about being nice. Liz is as phony and insincere as John apparently..lands sakes..who would have known? These two need to go away. they are poisining the trough of public discourse. The US is a wondeful country, not perfect, but clearly the land of opportunity. Anybody that believes Johnny and Liz about how bad it is needs to move away…anywhere across the border. And don’t let the door………..

Posted by: NC Man | August 14, 2007, 6:53 am 6:53 am

I like Edwards. But I do not think his wife should be throwing stones at her husband’s rivals for the presidency for supporting funding of the Iraqi war. Lets not foreget, Mr. Edwards, while in congress voted to start the war in the first place. By giving the president the final say, congress transferred their responsible and power and gave it to Bush. How stupid was that?

Posted by: Americano | August 14, 2007, 7:01 am 7:01 am

Liz Edwards is a mammoth “know-it-all”, just as Hillary Clinton was in the early 1990s, and still is. They have alot more in common than people realize, esp the Democratic “responders” above, who bash Liz but defend Hillary. Their main problem is their pseudo-intelligence…they perceive so many problems in the U.S., and they want the taxpayers with decent-paying jobs to fix all the problems, with big-government directing everything! Thanks for nothing Dems!!

Posted by: steve bourg | August 14, 2007, 7:08 am 7:08 am

So, John Edwards has a new attack dog, Elizabeth Edwards, she has a free pass to attack those that John Edwards can not attack directly. Of course, attacking, nobody can attack Elizabeth, afterall she has cancer. So, John Edwards looks squeeky clean since he is not attacking Obama directly, as for Obama, what can he do? If he attacks Elizabeth, he will look like a bully & if he attacks John Edwards, he be a part of negative politcs.

Posted by: Mike | August 14, 2007, 7:17 am 7:17 am

How on earth can most of you call yourselves Americans, people of free speech, God blessed and proven to be the best nation on the planet? Elizabeth is AMAZING! She tells it like she sees it. She doesn’t let people like you cause her to sit down and shut up like you’d apparently like her to do. What cowards. You’ll find fault with anyone if you’ll find fault with her. My god, this woman is an American I can be proud of. I intend on voting for John Edwards, and I intend on supporting Elizabeth with my prayers and my words for as long as I’m allowed to do so. If only more American women spoke out against fake Democrats, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in. It’s too painful for you to hear the truth about Clinton and Obama? Well I say you’re the ones who should shut up and sit down. You don’t have the common sense to know when you’ve got a woman of courage, a woman of faith, a woman of conviction out there standing and doing the right things. This tells me you’re not a good judge of character, and likely as not you’ll be voting for one of those pattycake Dems who has never had to personally fight for any true American need. Having a woman like her supporting the next president is just fine by me. God help us if you people are voting next time around.

Posted by: maddashell-womaninj | August 14, 2007, 7:17 am 7:17 am

Mrs. Edwards sees hers and her
husband’s chances drying up.
But Americans were never going to elect an empty suit to hold the most powerful position in the world. If the majority wants to jump on the road to socialism, Hillary is the “practical” choice. It’s inevitable. The Edwardss now hold down the sooper dooper extreme left. Hillary will benefit by appearing to be a more conservative leftist, allowing her to consolidate “middle-o-the-road” socialists. If Barak is able to keep this a contest right up until primaries,
Hillary won’t be able to swing far enough rightward in time to become normal. Normal: that place where average American voters political leanings lie.

Posted by: oliverbcb | August 14, 2007, 7:18 am 7:18 am

Why is it than when a Liberal attacks someone they are called “real’ and when a Conservative attacks someone they are called “mean” or “evil”? Elizabeth Edwards is John’s attack dog. He figures that people will cut her slack because she has cancer. This is a terrible move, she is losing respect from people who might like her otherwise, even if she is a Liberal.

Posted by: San | August 14, 2007, 7:18 am 7:18 am

Listen Lizzie.
Your husband didn’t patent the use of “hope” in a campaign, or have you forgotten Bill Clinton’s “the man from Hope” theme?

Posted by: bb | August 14, 2007, 7:23 am 7:23 am

It’s amazing to see those KNEE-JERKERS on the Democratic Underground twisting their underwear over Elizabeth Edwards saying something about Obama.
What I find even more amazing is that NONE OF THEM are focusing on the meat of what she said, which is, basically that Barack Obama talks about being against the Iraq War “from the beginning,” but “since the beginning” of his Senate term, he has never seen a funding bill to continue the war in Iraq that he didn’t like.
The only Democrat running for President who has consistently been against Iraq engagement is “DENNIS KUCINICH.”
Yes, John Edwards was all gun-ho for Iraq in the beginning, but at least John Edwards “NEVER” voted for funding to continue failed Bush strategies in Iraq.
Obama says that he wasn’t for going into Iraq, but he has consistently voted TO STAY THERE.
Amazingly, know-nothings are avoiding discussion of that part. And Obama can say that’s because he’s going to vote for funding as long as “men and women are on the battlefield.”
That’s a bunch of bologna. They could cut of funding for the WAR part of the military operations, and there would still be enough money for the safe removal of U.S. troops from Iraq, and if they needed a little more, they could pass a supplemental funding bill to REMOVE troops from Iraq.
Obama. “FOR THE WAR” from the time he got to the Senate.
Let me see them discuss that part over on the Democratic Underground.

Posted by: OEST | August 14, 2007, 7:26 am 7:26 am

How on earth can most of you call yourselves Americans, people of free speech, God blessed and proven to be the best nation on the planet? Elizabeth is AMAZING! She tells it like she sees it. She doesn’t let people like you cause her to sit down and shut up like you’d apparently like her to do. What cowards. You’ll find fault with anyone if you’ll find fault with her. My god, this woman is an American I can be proud of. I intend on voting for John Edwards, and I intend on supporting Elizabeth with my prayers and my words for as long as I’m allowed to do so. If only more American women spoke out against fake Democrats, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in. It’s too painful for you to hear the truth about Clinton and Obama? Well I say you’re the ones who should shut up and sit down. You don’t have the common sense to know when you’ve got a woman of courage, a woman of faith, a woman of conviction out there standing and doing the right things. This tells me you’re not a good judge of character, and likely as not you’ll be voting for one of those pattycake Dems who has never had to personally fight for any true American need. Having a woman like her supporting the next president is just fine by me. God help us if you people are voting next time around.

Posted by: maddashell-womaninj | August 14, 2007, 7:27 am 7:27 am

Wow, lot’s of he-said, she-said. Lots of cat fight stuff here. Lots of good gossip material. Elizabeth throws her and her husband into the tabloid world of gossip headlines. There’s no such thing as bad publicity!
No one here is fooled by explanations of why a candidate voted to authorize Bush to use force in 2002. There is no good explanation.
Or lfor ast weeks disastrous vote on the eavesdropping policy either.
Candidates vote wrong because their intentions are wrong. Period. Who the heck do you think you’re fooling?
The level of respect I have for professional politicians is right up there with professional hookers.
And I don’t see any of them doing much to change that.
Obama and Edwards might make OK VP’s, and thats it. Neither is ready for prime time in the White House from what I have seen.
Hillary is the only one with the political machinery and the clout to push anything through Congress if elected.
But Hillary is royalty. She’s not like us. She’s one of “them”. Which may get her elected.
Hillary is the one who could actually get the most done as far as repairing our goodwill internationally. I think other world leaders would be open to working with her.
Obama and Edwards are great kids.
We need an adult in the White House. We have had enough Boy-Kings.

Posted by: yogi-one | August 14, 2007, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Maybe our health care system would not be in so much trouble if slimebag lawyers like John Edwards didn’t become multimillionaires suing it into bankruptcy. And to all of you sanctimonious anti-war bloggers – where would you have us fight this war???? New York? Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami? Your home town? Get a grip people – Iraq was the absolutely perfect choice.

Posted by: Billie | August 14, 2007, 7:43 am 7:43 am

As much as we feel sympathy for Elizabeth Edward’s cancer, it does not change the shallowness of her husband as a candidate. I hope she has not pinned her survival hopes on her husband becoming president, for that would be tragic for John and the children when they face the inevitable and John drops out of the race…soon. All the money in the world and all the bishonen pretty boy haircuts cannot buy the heart and soul of the American people.

Posted by: Radiant Times | August 14, 2007, 7:43 am 7:43 am

Hey, the Edwards’ campaign has got to make a wave some how. He’s not winning.

Posted by: nolalily | August 14, 2007, 7:48 am 7:48 am

I’d like to know why Mrs. Edwards is being asked to speak for her husband like this all while she is undergoing cancer treatments. I’d think the stress of campaigning for her husband a bit much. And as far as I can see, it seems like Mr. Edwards NEEDS her to speak for him. Is he not capable of speaking for himself?? Why is she having to do his dirty work and criticizing other candidates? I think something stinks in the Edwards camp and it might be a husband who dosn’t have the gonads to stand up for himself and that he has to have his ill wife do it for him.

Posted by: Questioning | August 14, 2007, 7:51 am 7:51 am

Mr. and Mrs Edwards are too childish and foolish for national or international politics. Gullible local juries and each other are about as far as they can go.

Posted by: R Sloan | August 14, 2007, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Elizabeth Edwards is a typical hypocritical left wing Democrat living the high life while fostering income redistribution for the rest of us. If John and Elizabeth Edwards were truly interested in health care for everyone they would put their money where their mouths are and establish a fund with their own personal fortune to pay for “needy” people’s medical care. Stop stealing from the taxpayers!

Posted by: Myrtle | August 14, 2007, 8:03 am 8:03 am

How the hell do they know what it is like to be an “average” American? Edwards may have grown up that way, but he is far removed. He is a phony.

Posted by: Dawn | August 14, 2007, 8:13 am 8:13 am

I see a pattern developing here. The Jersey Girls were insulated from critisism because they were widows. Anyone who hasn’t served, is not permitted to speak their suppot of the war. Mother Sheehan’s nonsense couldn’t be refuted because she lost a son. And now Mrs. Edwards vile words are excused because of her terminal illness.
Truth be told, we all have terminal illnesses. Most of us, however, maintain some measure of civility. They both sicken me. Their ends justifies any means. They mirror true Stalinists in that no citisissm is permitted…

Posted by: Steve | August 14, 2007, 8:30 am 8:30 am

I think it’s a sad state of affairs that candidates wives speak out about their spouses compitition in the election. It’s like having them apply for a job for you. I’m all for them speaking their mind but c’mon. I have to agree with several people that Edwards reforming health care is like the wolf protecting the sheep. I would love, for once, to see a debate where each candidate actually answers a question. The Dems spend all their time bitching about the Republicans and how we’re headed down the path to destruction. Yet they NEVER offer an alternative. All I do here is Socialism will solve all. Privatize the healthcare for compitition, fair tax etc. Ask yourself this about all these free programs the Dems want. Who the hell is going to pay for it? The rich? Get serious. They know how to use the system. What about all these Dems? You think they are giving up their money to help you? Again…Get serious!

Posted by: steve | August 14, 2007, 8:31 am 8:31 am

i’D LIKE TO HOOK ALL THE CANDIDATES UP TO A POLYGRAPH AND HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM. aND SEE WHAT THEY ARE HIDING..? that;s the only way we’ll ever see what they are up too. Too many lies .

Posted by: DAVID | August 14, 2007, 8:34 am 8:34 am

Why did it take Obama six months!
What does it matter, he has one now. It is not like if he had one out the same time Edwards did, he could do something about it. That comment makes no sense.
On the War, you can say what ever about him not being in the US Senate at the time, but bottom line is what he said would happen has happened. That was foresight Hillary Clinton and John Edwards did not have.
That vote alone should disqualify them from being Commander and Chief!!!

Posted by: jose lopez | August 14, 2007, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Is this shrew “The Breck Girl’s” wife or mommy? Why does he need her to fight his oral battles?

Posted by: fairybee | August 14, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am

John Edwards’ resume as a candidate for the presidency is so thin it’s laughable. Equally laughable is the way Elizabeth Edwards criticizes every other Democratic candidate, as if her husband is the standard by which they should all be compared. They should both go home and instead of wasting their millions on a doomed candidacy.

Posted by: Gail | August 14, 2007, 8:51 am 8:51 am

The Democratic candidates are a disgrace. Not one of them possesses the courage to lead this nation. Crap, they’re too scared to even take a question from Brit Hume or Chris Wallace. They are all cowards who stand for nothing except getting elected.

Posted by: stigotracy | August 14, 2007, 8:57 am 8:57 am

I hate when rich people think they know what the average American thinks and wants. We want people in office who works as hard as us and gets the job done. If they can’t we need to fire them and get someone else. Right now, we should fire everyone in Washington and start over. No Dem or Rep, we just need normal average people to run our country.

Posted by: gregg | August 14, 2007, 8:59 am 8:59 am

Elizabeth Edwards is amazing. Her husband is decent man. All of this BS about his “destroying our healthcare system” is completely absurd–Edwards fought unethical and immoral big business on behalf of average people who had been screwed by those corporations who sold faulty products. He is probably too decent to get elected.
People are buying the Obama facade…look at Obama’s record in the senate and you’ll see where actions diverge from rhetoric…he’s already in the pocket of the the war machine–listen to him talk about a possible strike against Pakistan and the need to increase the size of our military–business as usual, folks! AND he chose Lieberman as his official mentor when he became a senator–doesn’t THAT tell y’all something???
Obama and H. Clinton are opportunists. Edwards is not perfect–but he’s got my vote!

Posted by: sj | August 14, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am

She is right, none of the Dem candidantes including her husband are for bringing the troops home immediatly. For that matter, when it comes to nation building and sprading our troops and wealth over the globe, there is no difference between the Dems and the Rep. with the exception of Dr. Ron Paul. He sees that it will bankrupt our economy, and turn the world agaist us if we try to occupy evey hegemony on the planet. While his is for the war on terrorism, he is not for keepin out troops on the ground to protect those trying to rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq and Afganistan. We need a leader like him who will bring all of our troops back home, protect our borders, and have the resources to go after the terrorist in their homeland when we truely have justifiable reasons to go after then rather than the cooked up stories of WMD.

Posted by: Keith Cannon | August 14, 2007, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Johnny-boy should be happy that his wife wears the pants and will step in to do his dirty work. That way he can get out his jabs without getting his hands dirty. She’s the ultimate tool. Take that back, they both are.

Posted by: FW | August 14, 2007, 9:03 am 9:03 am

The GREAT UNHINGED DEMOCRATS are posting en masse on this ridiculous article about a nasty woman married to an unscrupulous vain man.Go ahead…elect Edwards to president.You’ll hear laughter worldwide especially from the Middle East.Edwards is clueless about reality in the 21st Century.He’s talking as if he’s Lyndon Johnson in 1964.It’s a new day,John.Keep talking your fantasy 2 America’s theme…the Democrats mantra-divide and conquer.

Posted by: Modd Tymer | August 14, 2007, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Mrs. Edwards, please shut up! What we don’t need are Democrats attacking other Democrats. Can’t you see that unity–not Rovish attacks–are the ticket to the White House? Your demeaning and ulgy comments about the other Democratic candidates (the front runners) is very harmful to the party and to the country. Please don’t be Ann Coulter-lite.

Posted by: blady | August 14, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Here’s an example of John Edwards’ hypocrisy: he asked all the candidates to send back donations from Rupert Murdoch. Yet, when asked if he was going to send back his hefty book advance for a publisher that is owned by Murdoch, he said no.
Just ridiculous.

Posted by: Alison | August 14, 2007, 9:16 am 9:16 am

Many of the simplistic caricatures, name-calling and negative sum-ups of the Edwards is by an anti-Democrats hit squad to confuse the Democrat candidate supporters—by their sheer number of repeated assertions on blogs where progressives would post. Rove perfected the method of introducing and framing an issue, repeating a talking point over and over by a team of others(regardless of the point’s objective veracity) to put doubt in busy and distracted voters, for the voters to be vulnerable to superficial posturing, and, the crowning indignity, pull the lever against their own best interests. It’s called being snookered and humans do it every day against fellow humans. Many salesmen feel contempt for those who let themselves be suckers–the snookered are weak and deserve it. -bobolink1

Posted by: Bobolink1 | August 14, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am

This begs the question, why did the media adviser and speech writer bolt from Edwards to Obama?

Posted by: Pablo | August 14, 2007, 9:30 am 9:30 am

You want change? Get rid of ALL incumbents in both the House and the Senate, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents alike.
Pass a constitutional amendment that bans Congress from setting their own salaries and other perks. Make it the responsibility of the individual states to set and pay their salaries, pensions, and housing allowances.
Ban the naming of construction projects funded with Federal money after living politicians. Mandate that such projects be named after servicemen and women who have given their lives in defense of our freedom…and when all who have died have been honored, then name them after those who have been wounded. Only then can we name a project after a politician, and only if they are dead, and had served with honor in the military.
That’s a start…

Posted by: Richard J. | August 14, 2007, 9:32 am 9:32 am

“The problem for me with the other candidates is I don’t know what drives them. I should think the president has to be somebody who has that kind of vision outside themselves.”
What a joke, what hypocricy. Go back to your $30,000,000 house. John Edwards is deluded.

Posted by: Jim | August 14, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am

When ever I hear Mrs. Edwards speak I get the impression of a mother touting her sons grandiure.
There relationship seems almost incestous.
I hear more from Mrs Edwards in the press than I do the candidate.
Like when Bill Clinton was running for president I wondered who was actually running, Bill or Hillary?

Posted by: wkenddad | August 14, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am

The first comment in this stream reminds me of an article I saw:
Politicians and pundits are all in a quandary about why Americans seem to feel America is on the wrong track. For someone without a political ax to grind, it doesn’t appear all that difficult to figure.
It’s safe to say that the majority of Americans are hard-working, god-fearing, honest people who want nothing more from their leaders than responsible, consistent behavior that has their best interests at heart. As always, it’s the “best interests” part that is most difficult to define.
With respect to responsible, consistent behavior, there is a great deal that’s not on the right track and it’s not limited to one party. Take immigration as one example. This is a topic on which every politician has an opinion, and just like that other commodity all politicians have, they all stink. The reason politicians on Capitol Hill can’t solve the immigration problem is they are more concerned with pleasing the constituents that line their political pockets providing campaign money than they are with creating sound, rational legislation.
How best to address the immigration problem is to fix what’s broke, not try to put in place an omnibus piece of legislation that no one fully understands, and is rife with exploitable exceptions and regulations. Instead of using immigration as a bargaining chip to get what they want, both parties need to pay more attention to the needs and welfare of the American citizen.
Most Americans don’t want to split up families, but we do want our borders to be secure against foreign felons and gang members. We don’t want drugs and crime to pour through the borders any more than we want Osama’s jihadists coming through. No one believes that the US of A couldn’t prevent even an errant scorpion from crossing our border undetected if we put our minds to it. But the plain fact is there is not enough will on the part of the government to make that happen. Why? Money.
The US unemployment rate is about 4.5%. That is just about maxed out for employment. Let’s face it, there are at any one time about 4.5% of the working population who just don’t care to go to work. That means that there aren’t enough inducements to get people to do the jobs that “Americans just won’t do”. However, if the unemployment were 10%, you’d have people lined up for those jobs. Business would then be complaining, because the labor force would be American citizens rather than “illegal immigrants” requiring “minimum wage” rather than taking whatever they can get.
So in order for the service industry and the farmers and the gardening companies, etc., to be able to afford to make a profit above and beyond what would otherwise be possible, we Americans have to put up with the drugs and the gang members and criminals and possible terrorists that pour through our porous borders. The American citizen cannot compete with organized business when it comes to getting the attention of one side of the aisle in Congress and the other side of the aisle has no desire to champion closing the border lest they alienate the Latino community that votes overwhelmingly in their favor; hence the border remains a sieve.
The terror connection to immigration is doubly insulting to most Americans in that we are constantly told by the President that we must “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here”. In other words, terrorism is a real world threat that could come again to our shores. That being the case, there is no excuse, economic or otherwise, for our borders to be left unsecured. But borders are only one facet of the issue.
Regarding terrorism, of perhaps even more importance than securing the border is the issue of foreign visitors overstaying their visas. The “omnibus” immigration bill does not address this. Why would a would-be terrorist take a chance on crossing the border with Mexico, when they can easily get into the US with a visa, and in some cases without a visa, and merely “overstay”? It’s not as if anyone is checking up on those half a million a year who overstay their visas.
Americans want consistent policies that address their concerns, not hyperbole, grandstanding and patronization from their elected officials. Why does mainstream America feel we are on the wrong track? Because, to mix a number of metaphors, the politicians are so busy climbing onboard the gravy train, they’ve missed the boat.

Posted by: DT | August 14, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Mrs. Edwards thinks that Barack Obama is behaving in a holier-than-thou way?
I suggest she take a look at her own rhetoric. Every time she makes the news we hear her preaching a salvation of our country’s soul by asking us to have faith in her husband and see him as unique, visionary, the most compassionate, and a saving voice in the political wilderness. She questions other politician’s motives, judges other candidate’s actions, and claims that her husband has visions outside himself.
Sounds exactly like a holier than thou preacher to me. But hen again the hardest thing in the world is NOT to be self-deceived.

Posted by: Steve Nelson | August 14, 2007, 9:37 am 9:37 am

I am reminded of the movie “The American President”. Michael Douglas portrays a President who’s wife died and thus wasn’t asked difficult questions during his first election.
Elizabeth Edwards, and quite apparently John Edwards, seem to think that if she does all the talking, nobody will ever criticize her because she has cancer.
That seems about right for a sleazy lawyer like John.
In his short and ineffective political career, John Edwards has stood for nothing. He was ineffective as a senator, had no core belief that couldn’t be changed with the right twist, and now has the stones to criticize everyone else.
He campaigns for the “War on Poverty” as if this were 1967 and he is Bobby Kennedy. He is unaware that times have changed, welfare continues to suck up over 1/3 of our budget, yet the numbers haven’t gone down one bit. His answer, redistribute the wealth. He is a socialist. That is not very American and won’t really improve anyone’s life. He promotes class envy, yet offers no viable solution other than, “tax the rich”. How about, “don’t have kids out of wedlock. Don’t have kids until you’ve graduated from High School.” That will end a lot of the problem without having to raise taxes or create more government.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 9:39 am 9:39 am

I’m voting for elizabeth I mean john. I love it when a woman is in charge, I get goose bumps. ouuuuu. I’m a freak.

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Seems like some of you folks can’t see the glass as half full, but rather half way to bone-dry empty. You thrive on carping about how bad things are in the United States. I don’t actually think they’re that bad. Aside from last week, the stock market has been doing great, unemployment is at an all time low, the surge in Iraq appears to be working. Sure Katrina was a disaster, but people need to bear some personal responsibility for that. This is the greatest country in the world and there’s no reason why a person can’t be successful here if they work hard. There is also no reason why we can’t win in Iraq if we are allowed to. There’s just too much name-calling and finger-pointing and I think that’s un-American, and I think the Edwards family is on the top of that list.

Posted by: sheesh | August 14, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am

John and Elizabeth live in the “other America”…they TALK of helping the poor, but LIVE LIKE THE RICH….after being elected what will happen? THEY WILL LIVE MORE LIKE THE RICH AND FAMOUS AND POWERFUL….John has ZERO credibility about his “two Americas” vision for he lives in the one that always sticks it to the other. I am so fed up with the political process, voting seems pointless….each campaign it’s the same jabbering…we need CHANGE….get the other guys out and put ME IN….blah, blah….Edwards does not stand a chance at winning.

Posted by: T.J. | August 14, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am

It is a shame that America has to loose the war in Iraq to advance the left wing agenda. If we win the war the left is out of a job. John Edward’s apology for his vote in the Senate to authorize war is disgusting and pandering to the far left fringe. I say let Elizabeth continue her diatribe and hopefully add to the fractious nature of the Democratic party at this point. If they win next year you can bet they will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

Posted by: Larry Armstrong | August 14, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

There are two (2) america’s alright.
One for the democcrats who can have their beliefs shaped and manlipulated easily by using key code words…ask Frank Luntz.
The other for the working american’s who wake up go to work, pay their bills, raise their children, form their own opinions, and try to rise above the cheap politcal fray which has become our politcal process. Most of these “right thinking” folks choose the GOP.

Posted by: John Henry's hammer | August 14, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I think we should have all of the democrats wives and husbands debate each other on why their better half should be president. I think I need to be told that their husband or wife is better and they know best.

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 9:45 am 9:45 am

This woman is going to talk her husband right out of the nomination. She scares me. I definitely won’t vote for Edwards now. It’s nice for a wife to be involved, but she is to the extreme. We know she is educated and a former lawyer, she doesn’t have to spout off every time she gets a chance to show us how smart she is. If she were really smart, she would shut up and let her husband do the talking. Makes me wonder which one is running? Kinda brings back memories of Kerry’s big mouth wife.

Posted by: Ron | August 14, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Elizabeth Edwards just keep showing up her husband for the lightweight that he is. She defends him and explains his positions and what he really meant to say. Both of the Edwards are blindly ambitious and willing to do anything to be in the White House. Frankly, they scare me.

Posted by: Kevin | August 14, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I believe john & elizabeth when they tell me they are Us and For us. Just because they live in a nice house and he gets expensive cuts, well that don’t mean anything. I go out to dinner on friday nights and spend a little more than I should while looking out the restaurant window at the car window washerman begging for money, but on monday I’m back fighting for the poor and I also recycle plastic. They say they are one of us and I believe them. I’m voting for her I mean john.

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 9:50 am 9:50 am

when john becomes president I will rejoice. I hope john creates a special cabinet position for liz. I get goose bumps when she defends/talks for her man. I hope to see her next to him for many years to come. My vote goes to her I mean johnny boy.

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am

What are we supposed to be winning in Iraq? There are no battles going on for control of territory or ideology. Our troops are protecting workers trying to get the infrastructure repaired; electricity, sewer, oil, bridges. US military personnel are getting killed, mostly by IED’s as they are trying to rebuild a nation and they will continue to get killed by those who rightly see them as the occupying nation. It is a catastrophic failure now, it will be a catastrophic failure when we leave…let’s leave now and keep our military alive. Since when is it constitutional to take US taxpayers money to rebuild another nation. We need freedom in our country from the tyranny of the behemoth taxing state.
This came out yesterday from the US comptroller…”The US government is on a ‘burning platform’ of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, chronic healthcare underfunding, immigration and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon, the country’s top government inspector has warned.
David Walker, comptroller general of the US, issued the unusually downbeat assessment of his country’s future in a report that lays out what he called “chilling long-term simulations”.
These include “dramatic” tax rises, slashed government services and the large-scale dumping by foreign governments of holdings of US debt.”
We Dem’s need a man like Ron Paul to free us from the certain destruction of our run away government.

Posted by: Keith | August 14, 2007, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Whether you like Edwards or not, attacking the messenger is just plain stupid. Why don’t you listen to what Elizabeth is saying? Hillary and Obama to a lesser extent, talk in platitudes. “I’m in it to win it.” Well there you have it, I guess that says it all. Are you kidding me? Do you really think anything will change as far as health care, big pharma, big oil even? All of these anti-Edwards comments remind me of the Kool Aid drinking Repubs, who can’t see their own feet in front of them. Do you want change or do you want a packaged candidate with a great ad campaign? Think people, otherwise we’ll never get out of this mess.

Posted by: Eric | August 14, 2007, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Is this the same Mrs. Edwards who asked Ann Coulter to stop the negative attacks?? I guess she meant for everyone but herself to play nice.

Posted by: Tony Almeida | August 14, 2007, 10:09 am 10:09 am

This is our moment…we need John Edwards. Not only because Americans are sick and tired of foreign wars, of the oppressive income tax, of growing restrictions on our precious liberties — but because spending, deficits, and Federal Reserve troublemaking have brought on a global financial crisis that endangers all of us. Now, of all times in our modern history, we need the message of sound money and economic freedom taught to all our people. How desperately we need the truth.
This is a dangerous time for all we believe in. Now, above all, we must spread the truths of the Constitution, of the rule of law, of life, of peace, of freedom, of an America that will truly be a city on the hill.

Posted by: John | August 14, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am

John,
“This is a dangerous time for all we believe in. Now, above all, we must spread the truths of the Constitution, of the rule of law, of life, of peace, of freedom, of an America that will truly be a city on the hill.”
What does Edwards offer that takes care of any of this? If you read the constitution, it doesn’t guarantee anything Edwards stands for. Taxes; which he does stand for; were an afterthought. Universal Healthcare, not in there. Redistribution of the wealth (socialism), not in there. He doesn’t espouse any of the ideas of the founding fathers.
Freedom is a double edged sword. It allows for anyone and everyone to succeed. It also allows for failure by anyone and everyone. Government isn’t the answer, but that is all that John is offering.
Our deficit is shrinking. As a proportion of the overall budget, it is extremely low. Interest rates are low, unemployment is low, GDR and GNP are both strong and consistant; regardless of what the Democrats say. Lif isn’t that bad in the USAA, actually, it’s better here than anywhere else.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Me – we voters need to be realistic, too.
Cheney, GWB and Karl Rove has wrought a divisiveness across this land that cannot be healed by republicans. There is nothing any republican candidate can say along party lines that has not been prostituted by the current regiem for political gain. Thus poisonous to the voters across the land.
Today, GWB’s presidency is over.. he is so unpopular, and so unable to get any traction with any plan or idea with Congress on either side of the aisle, that he is toothless and has overstayed his welcome. Lame Duck is one thing, but one that has failed to make any friends, do any negotiations, make any concessions on behalf of the public they serve far, far worse… He is headed for the ignominy he deserves. What group or organization or charity or global planning commission would want him near their organization?
Yes, Democrats will discuss each others failings…but they are all good honest democrats with long histories of public service and interest in the country’s welbeing…
I see a get things done Democrat majority in House, Senate and White HOuse, with all the current candidates serving a dynamic new direction for our country in whatever way their talents are best used.
They could not be getting the numberd and donations they have without a LOT of voters that have been sorely disappointed by GWB and henchmen.

Posted by: Ava Mae Lewis | August 14, 2007, 10:23 am 10:23 am

How dare Elizabeth Edwards question the motives of other candidates when nothing that has ever come out of John Edwards’ mouth gives a clear and logical explanation of what drives HIM.
IMO, John Edwards comes across as a big phoney. He is the Democrat version of Dan Quayle.

Posted by: Angela | August 14, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am

To all the people who refer to the US as “this once great country”: We are still the greatest country on the face of the Earth. I would appreciate if anyone who uses this term would from now on point to one thing that has happened to them personally to make them believe that this nation is any worse off than before GW took office. You cry about how awful the country is while you sit on your fat rear end, caused by our abundance of food, while you watch your huge high def plasma screen tv, in your air conditioned living room. Stop your whining. THIS COUNTRY IS GREAT, not was great IS GREAT!

Posted by: Uncle Sam | August 14, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am

jimbo56,
Well if John Edwards doesn’t stand for that what presidential candidate do you think does?

Posted by: John | August 14, 2007, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Mrs. Edwards is coming off as
an activist scold. Less is more.

Posted by: Mason Jahr | August 14, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Wow! I think the wrong Edwards is running. Elizabeth has more tenchant bon mots than her husband–and the guts to say them. Pay attention Hillary; you might learn something from Liz.

Posted by: Bill Swety | August 14, 2007, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Who’s running for President here? Elizabeth or John? Why is that well groomed, well manicured wuss having his wife answer and make charges against the candidates?

Posted by: Joe Crabs | August 14, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

“Feelings come and feelings go, and feelings are deceivings. My warrant is the Word of God, nothing else is worth believing.” Martin Luther King.
I believe in you Elizabeth and John.
Peace.

Posted by: Patty | August 14, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Hey, Liz, you guys can afford to pay for your neighbor’s health care (after all, that’s what you want the gov’t to mandate by law that I do)….well, what’s stopping you? And your lockstep buddies pushing the same?
Holier-than-thou, indeed.

Posted by: RW | August 14, 2007, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Who is running for President? Elizabeth or John? Can’t John fight his own battles? We’ve already had one set of “co-presidents” and we certainly don’t need another!

Posted by: Marc | August 14, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Frankly all of the republicans and the closet republicans on this post scare the hell out of me. They are “extremist’ and show no compassion for anyone but themselves. This is America, I thought we gave a damn about the poor, suffering, and struggling? Granted I work for the Federal Government and know firsthand that there are policies that need to be cleaned up and reform needs to happen but if an Agency can spend $250 million + for a software system that barely works for 500 employees, then why is it a problem when they pump money in a social system designed to enable more people to achieve the “American Dream?” Why do so many republicans and some dems have issues with this when they go to work in their GS-15 positions making half-assed decisions to spend millions of dollars on systems that their employees can’t and don’t want to learn to use? Wake-up people and stop complaining about welfare reform and other issues when so much money is wasted in overstaffed, incompetent Federal/Government Agencies. Show some compassion !

Posted by: Disenchanted | August 14, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am

I admire Elizabeth. Further, I believe John Edwards would make a terrific president. I do plan to vote for Obama in the primary. However, if Obama were not a choice, I would vote for Edwards. Seems to me that many of the responses herein are from admirers of the Fox network of lies, propaganda, and deceit.

Posted by: Tom | August 14, 2007, 10:42 am 10:42 am

She’s just defending her wife from insults. The Breck Girl should go back to the personal injury field where his swarminess is appreciated.

Posted by: Fred Marcus | August 14, 2007, 10:46 am 10:46 am

What strikes me as odd, is John Edwards “Poverty Tour.” Sporting a $400.00 haircut leads me to believe he knows nothing about poverty, as the average American knows nothing of a four hundred dollar haircut.
Mr. Edwards, while on his “Poverty Tour” charged universities in excess of $50,000.00 for his speaking fees.
When Elizabeth Edwards referred to her neighbor as “scummy,” because her neighbor is poor, that did it for me. I lost interest.
As for Hillary, she now speaks out of both sides of her mouth. It’s a re-run of an eight year old show. I’m skipping her too.
Obama? Too inexperienced to take seriously. His remarks about Pakistan are explosive, especially in light of his critisism of Bush, and the war in Iraq.

Posted by: VIVALABUSH! | August 14, 2007, 10:47 am 10:47 am

I thought John Edwards was running?:-/
Support your husband, but how bad can you talk about other candidates when your husband is worse than them. It’s just the typical, I’ll make you look worse than me, but a twist.

Posted by: Sherryl | August 14, 2007, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Which Democrat is John Edwards and ACTUAL or a RHETORICAL, or maybe both after all he is a slip and fall lawyer.

Posted by: JohnW | August 14, 2007, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Oh so the whole world feel sympathy for Mrs. Edwards because of her illness, and she has taken it upon herself to be the messenger and throwing mud at her husband’s competitors. That way it would seem to carry more weight and her husband does not have to look like just another mudslinger.

Posted by: Danilo | August 14, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am

She’s just defending her wife from insults. The Breck Girl should go back to the personal injury field where his swarminess is appreciated.
Can’t wait to hear what you all have to say about Fred Thompson’s wife, a little scarred of women, are we???
As for Hillary, she now speaks out of both sides of her mouth. It’s a re-run of an eight year old show. I’m skipping her too.
If you are so bright why did you not skip bush???
Life isn’t that bad in the USAA, actually, it’s better here than anywhere else.
I assume you are a world traveler???
Too many posts from men here that show they are scared of women who have a brain.

Posted by: VIVA change | August 14, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am

This is such cry baby politics…..Whine whine whine, boo hoo, boo hoo. Whoa is me, Whoa is me. Life’s not fair! Typical Democrats – never satisfied, never happy – always bitter. Unfortunetaly, Mrs Edwards will pass into eternity not focused on what matters. Giving glory to God and not serving herself or her husbands self interest!

Posted by: Preston | August 14, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am

It seemed to me that John would want his wife to shut her yap, but then I realized that about the only press he gets now days is when she says something deemed outrageous.
Just an observation.

Posted by: Milwaukee Mike | August 14, 2007, 11:03 am 11:03 am

A rose by any other name …
If raising issues about 15 million left uncovered by health care proposals (still, a much better record than any Republican proposes) or raising questions about war funding are now filed under the rubric of slinging mud – I guess I would have to shift over to being for mud slinging.
Really – this “unplugged” title is getting a hyped up reaction that is disconnected from the very real, very serious, very important issues Elizabeth Edwards (God bless her) raises. And she raises them politely, if pointedly.
The story SHOULD be the content of the issues – healthcare, the war, etc. Instead, because this is the Murdoch driven post 9/11 version of the media – the story is headlines and hype to create a theme of infighting, vs. an examination of issues.
Here’s to hearing more about the issues (even if we have to keep digging through the hype). And here’s to Edwards and Obama both. They are putting out programs and ideas and they deserve discussion. The worldwide educational initiative is very interesting.
Keep talking guys – at least some bits and pieces of content will trickle through.

Posted by: Mary | August 14, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Sigh, maybe she should be the one running for president and he should be the one looking after the kids. After all, he’s been campaigning for president since 2005 and the only thing I can remember about John Edwards is 1) loser in 2004, 2) $400 haircut. 3) and something about two Americas, blah blah, rich and poor, which sounds a bit ridiculous coming from a man who gets $400 haircuts. It’s terrible, I know. But that’s the only thing that sticks. Oh, he was also very underwhelming in every debate including the 2004 VP debate against possibly one of the worst VPs in history. At least his wife gets headlines I remember. I know 1) she has cancer 2) she doesn’t like Ann Coulter 3) she doesn’t think Hillary Clinton is woman enough to get the feminist vote 4) she thinks John is woman enough to get the feminist vote (hmmm…) 5) John’s campaign created the philosophy of ‘hope.’ As ridiculous as it sounds, at least I remember what she says.

Posted by: Miami Miller | August 14, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am

A minor criminal Obama (lets invade Pakstan a nuke power and if they hit us with nukes we won’t respond) A majori criminal Hillary (Bush is abusing his power but my white house records are sealed) and the next Jimmy Swagger, Edwards (she speaks to you know through me even though she is dead). What a batch of losers. Is that the best the liberal can come up with? And they think Bush is bad.

Posted by: Scott | August 14, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

John,
A very good question. I don’t know that there is a person currently in the race that excites me.
I am a conservative. I say that because recently, the Republicans haven’t stood for much on conservative principals. That being said, there is no Democrat who remotely comes close to having “The Right Stuff” in my opinion.
So, what would I like. I would like a President who believes that government should only be involved to that minimum extent which is necessary. We can’t continue to grow our governmental spending by a rate of 10+% when the economy only grows at 3-4%. So, a fiscal conservative (both parties fail here). Someone who is strong on defense. They understand that our enemies hate us, not because of who occuppies the White House, but rather because of what we stand for.
Someone who doesn’t pander to popular opinion. I don’t care what polls say, right is right, stand and believe what you believe. That is my problem with almost all Democratic candidates. They say what they think everyone wants to hear. Far to politicians stand by their convictions. Reagan did. Newt Gingrich did, but I am not certain he is electible.
Too much time is spent in Washington trying to “one up” the other party. They are looking for dirt or an angle that will garner favor. John Edwards typifies this with “War on Poverty” and “War on terrorism is just a bumper sticker.” What does that really mean? A truthful person will say, “poverty exists because some people work harder than others and some people don’t work hard enough. In this country, anyone can be successful, anyone can go from rags to riches. If you aren’t happy with your lot in life, only you can change it.” They would also add that no government program can change this. Welfare hasn’t reduced the poverty rate at all. It’s just made people dependent on the government.
As for Iraq, how come 97 senators voted in favor of bombing Iraq in December of 1998 when President Clinton was in office and he used the EXACT same argument that Bush did; Potential WMD, failure to obide by UN sanctions, Lying and threatening the west. Yet, nobody is held accountable for why they changed their minds?
Stand up and be a leader. That’s my bottom line. Good, bad or indiferent at least it’s not pandering. There is way too much of that going on right now.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 11:14 am 11:14 am

JIMBOOSTER: “Each time I read a story about them, John in particular, they are reacting to all kinds of things with such anger and bitterness. A president cannot react to national or international issues out of emotion, that’s what immature people do. You have to use your head. They dont seem to, in my view.”
Right on! Who would want a bantering, critical first lady that is feable and weak. . .and a President that REACTS to other competitive players?! How about some one who vocially agrees with competition, adapts to their positive qualities and pre-dispositions themselves so that they don’t have to play catch up politics?? A USA PRESIDENT SHOULD MAKE THIER NEWS, DONT REACT TO IT.

Posted by: KB | August 14, 2007, 11:17 am 11:17 am

John Edwards not only is a complete phoney but also a shameless coward. Sending his wife to be the hitman is disgusting. Everyone knows she is the brains behind the Edwards campaign but to demean her by giving her the Attack Dog role is inexcusable. Sell the Mansion and give the millions to the poor, get a $10 haircut and love and nurture your wife instead of shaming her. That’s what a man of charaacter would do.

Posted by: Dick Landis | August 14, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Is she running for president,or is her husband and cant say it for him self!You know the dems wives are always running thier mouths and getting no backlash but if you dont say anything and are a republican wife,you are targeted!Can you say bias!

Posted by: JASON | August 14, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Elizabeth Edwards makes me sick!! She and her husband must need to raise some more money for the campaingn. When will she stop going on and on about her dead son and her cancer. The American people are sick and tired of both of the Edwards. She’s a load mouth and he’s a total scum bag ambulance chaser.

Posted by: tj | August 14, 2007, 11:26 am 11:26 am

What a load of drivel from this woman.
15 years ago Hillary was trying to get comprehensive health care for all.. while her husband was out hustling big money to be able to afford his $400 haircuts. And Obama is a fresh voice.. and im also glad her phony husband doesnt impress a lot of people.

Posted by: W Bradford | August 14, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Elizabeth Edwards reminds me of the mother who walks her son to school to protect him from the “town bullies”. The Edwards family needs to determine who is running for President John or Elizabeth.
If it John than it is time for him to step out from behind his wife and defend himself

Posted by: Tecumseh | August 14, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Jimbo wrote:
” “poverty exists because some people work harder than others and some people don’t work hard enough.”
Do you really beleive that?
I’ve been poor and let me tell you it is utterly and completely untrue that amount or difficulty of work has a direct correlation with the amount of money earned. In general, the more odious the job the lower the pay.
Many people work multiple jobs and still are unable to make it. At least Edwards is talking about what is truly two Americas even though all the pundits beleive this issue is a loser politically. Please at least allow the possibility that Edwards is sincere.
Steve Mickler
Solar Thermal/Electric(rocket)Propulsion enthusiast
First STEP

Posted by: Steve Mickler | August 14, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Being a Democrat/Liberal means never having to say I’m sorry!

Posted by: tv2112 | August 14, 2007, 11:37 am 11:37 am

I’ll take edwards over clinton any day but my choice is Obama.

Posted by: DC | August 14, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am

jimbo56,
I agree with nearly everything you say. You call yourself a conservative, but any more I don’t know what that mean? Bush(s), Ford, Nixon, Romney, Gingrich, Thompson and Giuliani are all cut from the same neo-conservative cloth. They are all globalist, big government (Bush grew the government much larger and faster than even Kennedy or Carter), high taxing, deficit spending, social engineering, statist, all of whom are systematically removing our civil liberties and freedoms. Furthermore, I don’t see a lick of difference between the rhetoric of the Dems and that of the Repubs. When it comes to the roll and size of government they are singing out of the exact same hymn book…just a different page.
We need to look more towards George Washington, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson when speaking of conservatism and constitutionalist who uphold civil liberties. These men are paleo-conservatives. Men who would rule by the rule of law…as opposed to what you rightly point out as by opinion polls. These men are statesmen and not politicians.
The only man that I see running for president who fully endorses the paleo-conservitive ideology, who is not beholding to ANY special interests groups, who isn’t self serving, and who is a true patriot and statesman is Ron Paul. What do you think of him?

Posted by: John | August 14, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

John Edwards is a big COWARD, the worst kind, hiding BEHIND his cancer-ridden wife’s skirt. A bigger phony I have never seen in politics. May he be sent packing to all of his 28,200 sq foot home, part of his “other America”.

Posted by: Bailey | August 14, 2007, 11:43 am 11:43 am

EDWARDS IS FAKE! Elizabeth proved it.

Posted by: Rie-Rie | August 14, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Since the candidates are focusing on health care for all I would like to mention a few points that I have not seen from any of the candidates.
I have worked in the health care field for more than 20 years and the vast majority of “needy” people who are getting “free” care (meaning that it is free to them but costs the rest of us a ton of money) through medicaid and charity programs are not needy at all. They are working the system. Women have children without benefit of marriage and they receive “entitlements” even when the father of the children makes enough money to support them. They often pay thousands of dollars in cash or on family or friends’ credit cards for services they cannot receive “free” such as cosmetic surgery, hair extensions, phony nails. People transfer huge assets to family members in order to receive entitlements even though they continue to live a high lifestyle. People lie like crazy on applications for charity programs and when I first started working in the health care field I was absolutely shocked to find out how easy it is. Illegals are given medicaid for emergencies, pregnancy, their children who are born here, “free” breakfasts and lunch. They qualify for charity programs and then send $300-$800 and sometimes more per month out of the country untaxed. We provide interpreters for them even though many of them understand or speak English as well as we do. They laugh at us. “STUPID AMERICANS”.
This great country was not built on illegal immigration or people who came here to mooch off of our hard earned wages. People used to be proud to learn English because they knew that they could assimilate and provide a better life for their families. Political correctness has crippled our ability to converse and air opinions as evidenced by comments on this and other websites.
People are entitled to their own opinions in this country — how lucky we are — and should not be called racist for doing so. The hateful intolerant left in this country is destroying our nation. In the sixties I remember hearing that we would be destroyed from within. And so it has come true. Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter and John Kerry travel the globe telling people what a terrible country this is. How lucky for them that this terrible country allows them the privilege of behaving like ignorant, venomous jackasses without fear of political retribution in the form of firing squads or life in prison. We have lost our way in this country and there is currently no one out there who has the courage to stand up to the left wing of this country. We need someone to stand up for all the millions of Americans who want our border crossings closed to the people who break the law to get here. Our educational system is substandard. Money is not the issue. Teachers have to deal with pampered, spoiled children and their pampered, spoiled parents every day. Teachers and administrators cannot deal effectively with problems because of the fear of lawsuits from parents who think their children do no wrong and should have everything they want regardless of the consequences.
God Bless America! Now more than ever.

Posted by: Kerry | August 14, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

There is nothing wrong with pointing out differences between your policies and other candidates. That is not mudslinging.
Edward’s health care plan covers everyone and was out first. Obama’s does not cover everyone. Clinton says she carries scars from the time she tried to reform it as First Lady and is not sure that the political wlll exists for change yet. These are substantive differences that voters should be talking about.

Posted by: dukeman | August 14, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Elizabeth Edwards and Paul Krugman..lol!That pair rates a little lower in intelligence than Ren and Stempy or Beavis and Butthead! Elizabeth and Johnny..shut up! Go away!

Posted by: NC Guy | August 14, 2007, 11:51 am 11:51 am

I watched an entire Elizabeth Edwards town meeting on C-Span with in 2004, and concluded that she was the smartest and best of the 8 [4 candidates for Pres and VP, 4 wives]; more recently, I have read her autobiography.
I can see why she is exasperated that Senators Clinton and Obama get all of the attention and all the media seems to repeat about her husband, who has contributed policy proposals to what should be a substantive debate. is his haircut.
However, I have been very disappointed in the nasty criticism of the other candidates coming from the Edwards campaign. Perhaps, sadly, they conclude they cannot get media attention unless they use the words “Clinton” and/or “Obama” in a statement. But the fact is that we are not looking for the winner of king of the hill battle among the Democrats. We are looking for a leader, whom we follow because we are inspired, not because of arguments about how this or that statement or vote by another candidate wasn’t exactly as good or as quick as this or that statment or vote by this candidate.
We want a leader who can inspire all to believe what happens to be true, that, without adequate attention to this, Democrats long have proposed and worked for policies that strengthen America both overseas and at home, while the Republicans, by damaging our alliances, providing terrorists with recruiting matterial, and weakening our economy, are very dangerous to America. Get up out of the he said/she said of campaigning and speak again to our dreams and aspirations for America. Whoever does that [assuming the media covers substance instead of the entertaining food fights] will win.

Posted by: Lynn | August 14, 2007, 11:55 am 11:55 am

John,
Truthfully, I don’t know enough about Ron Paul. I mostly hear others talking about him, not as much from him directly. However, in today’s media driven world, Ron doesn’t seem to have the “it” factor. That’s a shame. We’ve begun the Presidential race three years before an election and it’s all about buzz. All fluf, very little substance.
Steve, yes, I really do believe what I wrote. You say you are poor. Do you live below the poverty limit? (that is, do you earn less than $18,000/year) If so, what have you done to change that? Are you continuing to educate yourself? Have you applied for a different job that pays more? Do you think someone will get elected to office and all of a sudden, you will be wealthy or better off? I truly believe that if your lot in life is going to improve, it will be because YOU do something to change that, not because John Edwards, Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton is elected and all of a sudden, you will get a huge raise. Did you get a big boost in income when Bill was President? Only if you were a computer programmer or you worked in the wireless communications field, and he really had nothing to do with the growth of either of those markets.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Elizabeth Edwards is the biggest bag of wind since the 2004 election finally silenced John Kerry’s wife. John Edwars is one of the most fake people I’ve ever seen. They are condescending and shallow.

Posted by: rlinaug | August 14, 2007, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

What a disappointing society we live in when people don’t care about a candidate unless they are willing to make their spouse shut-up. A marriage is a union of two souls and you can bet that John and Elizabeth Edwards have achieved that union. John Edwards is the only candidate with the guts to say how he would actually achieve health care for EVERY American. If you had wealth I hope you would want to give back to those less fortunate like a barber who does not have nearly the opportunities that a trail attorney has. Keep on buying those haircuts President Edwards and maybe you can single handedly close the gap between the two America’s!

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

I roundly agree with Kris. Elizabeth is coming across as the “catty wife.” I am hearing overprotective mommy in there too.
John Edwards was in Congress for 6 years, but has run for President 5 of those six years. He comes across as a man with huge ego and ambition to match.
Judy W.

Posted by: Judy | August 14, 2007, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Elizabeth Edwards Really is Tiresome

I’m really getting tired of this story: Elizabeth Edwards Unplugged ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: In an interview in August’s edition of The Progressive magazine, Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former…

Posted by: Wizbang | August 14, 2007, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Funny how some posters criticize Elizabeth Edwards by saying nobody can criticize her because she has cancer. Mrs. Edwards sure hasn’t said it, nor any member of the Edwards campaign, nor even any Democrat.
And funny how, if she is uncriticizable, the Internet tubes are full of vile names for her, like the YouTube clip labeling her a “fat cancer pig,” or the blogs full of a story about her calling a neighbor “slummy” or “scummy” without anyone providing a link to such a quote.
Funniest of all is that all the people who call John Edwwards an ambulance chaser would be the first one to call a guy like that if their daughter was disembowled by a pool drain, or had the wrong kidney removed, or were affected by any one of countless ghastly events that could have been averted if the manufacturers and doctors would keep closer tabs on their peers.
Well, maybe “funny” isn’t the word. Hypocritical, more like.

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Okay, this comment section has been taken over by republican trolls or the democrats are getting just as nasty and petty. None of our candidates really speak to me – they all seem to be lacking the vision and the independent nature and passion it takes to make real change in this country and Lord knows, we need change. I’m hoping that Al Gore soon sees what so many of us already see and that is we need him to bring real change. He is truly a man of intellect, vision, passion and integrity. I don’t see anyone now running that can or will effect real change and reverse the horror of Bush.

Posted by: Bluesage | August 14, 2007, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

When will someone tell the truth, that Hillary voted for the war and would again….her New York Jewish constituency wanted and still want the war and want to BOMB IRAN in addition.
We cannot say that, can we? Even as Podhorotz joins Giuliana’s team to boost bombing. God, we’re in trouble.

Posted by: elsie | August 14, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Well Bluesage, thank goodness you came along and put the rest of us back on track! Al Gore, please, I think he has shown recently that he is a fringe player, much like Howard Dean four years ago. Al believes that he is an expert on everything from the climate (still highly debatable), to foreign policy (he lacks any backbone).
He has spent the past four years catering to a fringe group of environmentalist.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Jimbo56 – thankyou for your great posts!
You forgot, however, Al Gore’s self proclaimed “Father of the Internet.” Thank goodness he was never elected.

Posted by: VIVALABUSH! | August 14, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Is anyone going to ever focus on WHAT she was talking about, or just focus on her?
This is why people make me sick.
They can’t focus on INFORMATION, they can only focus on people.
Does Obama claim to be against the war in Iraq “from the beginning”?
Has he voted for every funding bill put before him, except for the last one that he only voted for after it was clear that it would pass?
Is he and David Axelrod basically repeating the same stuff that John Edwards is this time, as well as repeat John “Hope is on the Way” Edwards’ themes from 2004?
Of coure the answer to all of those questions is “YES.”
But hey, you don’t want to focus on that because the answer to those questions isn’t “Elizabeth Edwards.”

Posted by: OEST | August 14, 2007, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Well Jimbo that’s spoken like a true Jimbo. If you thank Global Warming is still debatable you should go buy up the Louisiana swamp land because if it still exists 50 years from now you would make a killin’…

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Not impressed with either Edwards – Mr or Mrs. Sorry, no vote here!

Posted by: Mar | August 14, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Jimbo56 – thankyou for your great posts!
You forgot, however, Al Gore’s self proclaimed “Father of the Internet.” Thank goodness he was never elected. The man was and still is a complete idiot.
Judy: The neighbor Mrs. Edwards called “scummy” was featured on every network news braodcast. Tune in sometime.

Posted by: VIVALABUSH! | August 14, 2007, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

VIVALABUSH, I would argue if you tuned in less you might know the truth!

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Elzabeth has to know her husband will fail in his quest for the nomination. She is cognizant that she suffers from a terminal disease, and she hasn’t learned damn thing from her spurious comments after the Vice Presindential debates.
Philosophically she is where she wants to be because thats where she wants to be.I pity the fool that she is, however, I have no compassion for someone who lobs personal comments about the other candidates and then plays the disease card.
Though this is her last trip around the pool and the last hurrah for Elizabeth. I believe she will suffer emotionally when the nominating convetion bypasses her husband

Posted by: Stan Hardman | August 14, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

The “scummy” neighbor once chased workers investigating right-of-way off his property with a rifle. That must be…classy?

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

It’s easy to misrepresent someone when you take their remarks out of context. I find she has a lot of good things to say.

Posted by: Mark Klempner | August 14, 2007, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Wow! There is a lot of animosity
coming out in response to Elizabeth
Edwards.
Is this coming from Republicans who
hate Edwards or is it coming from
Clinton supporters? It’s so hard to
tell the difference between them.
Leadership for America
Vote for John Edwards

Posted by: MarkH | August 14, 2007, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

“Bush has completely disassembled the New Deal…”
Oh, if only….You Edwards supporters are an interesting group. And entertaining. Very entertaining.
“If you had wealth I hope you would want to give back to those less fortunate like a barber who does not have nearly the opportunities that a trail attorney has.”
LOL. That particular “less fortunate” barber probably makes more money in a year than you’ll see in your lifetime.

Posted by: Kyda Sylvester | August 14, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Elizabeth, can we just stop the name calling

Posted by: STEVENBARTMAN | August 14, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

I love reading Elizabeth Edwards comments – she says them and writes them and they are real. She is not worrying about politics in the way that Hillary and others are trying to be so cautious that they do not express truth. I agree with Elizabeth and John and find them refreshing and I too as have others on this site, am wondering if the critics are Republicans or Hillary supporters who do not want to give the power to the people! I for one am thrilled that there are some who are trying to make the US a Democracy and give us Healthcare and end the war.

Posted by: glofern | August 14, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Pam: Where have you been living for the past 7 Bush years in a cave with Bin Laden? I take that back, he probably knows more about our government than you. Also, up until Jan. 2007, the Repubs ran congress (for 12 years) and crippled the Dem administration in the WH during the 90s. They nixed everything the Clinton admin. tried to do. Wake up Pam. Its time to smell the Repubs!

Posted by: Ron | August 14, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

Just a note, I am a full blooded conservative Republican and I am not afraid of Edwards or the rest of his pandering Dem tribe, as an american I’m embarresed that such clowns are held as supposed leaders of our country.
And just a note to RLS; you really need to look at the facts, the republicans had nothing to do with slick willy not getting bin laden, it had to do with sandy berger being too chicken to allow the op to continue after bin laden was in the crosshairs and willy too busy sleezing up a freind of Monica’s on the golf course to be bothered with the minor inconvience of national security.

Posted by: Bud | August 14, 2007, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Todd,
I don’t doubt that the climate is changing, but I do doubt the cause of it. In fact, so do many prominent scientist. This is not debatable. If anything, history shows that our climate is not static, it is constantly changing. So, that is the disagreement with Al Gore.
Bluesage, snappy retort. You got me.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

I have been a supporter of the Edwards since John was elected to the Senate in 98. I have often thought over the last 190 years that he would, could and should be president. John, you just lost me. Take your lovely wife home to North Carolina and tend to your family issues.

Posted by: bronto | August 14, 2007, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

As a democrat I could never vote for John Edwards. He can’t even fight his own fights, he sends his wife out to fight for him. It is because of him that the publicans consider the democrats weak on terror.

Posted by: Brandon Wolner | August 14, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

You lib’s make me laugh! “What are we going to do about people living paycheck to paycheck and are living under a mountain of debt”? LOL It’s called personal responsibility! Get It Through Your Thick Freaken Skull! When people take responsibility for their actions a great thing happens! You become self reliant! I’m trying to remember the last time a politician helped to make me a millionaire! Wake Up Democrat’s your politicians want you to rely on them for your essentials that’s how they keep your vote. Reality Check! The government can’t even run itself! God forbid they start running our healthcare!

Posted by: STEVESCHNEIDER | August 14, 2007, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Kyda, You are correct. That particular barber cuts hair for celebrities and lives in Beverly Hills. Did you know that he actually began cutting John Edwards’s hair for free, but during the course of their business relationship he was required to travel to cut John Edwards hair and that is what caused the price to increase. That’s right, travel expenses. John Edwards has paid as much as $1,200 for a haircut. Now, let’s see how many people were impacted by this. The airline, the stylists staff, the transportation to and fro…keep on helping out the economy President Edwards you truly know that wealth needs to be spread around!

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

STEVESCHNEIDER, because if we aren’t all out trying to be millionaires we must not be American…

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

TODD, I believe Steve’s point is simply this. Don’t blame a politician if you aren’t rich. They really can’t control that.
As for your comment, I agree, there are many things in this world that are more important; or should be; than money. But in the end, that is what politics is all about.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Edwards gave me the willies when I first listened to him. The more he talks, the worse he gets.
The Republicans, any of them, can do a better job than any Edwards & buddies.

Posted by: SAL | August 14, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

The Edwardses (eseseses?) seem like nice enough family people. They’ve gone through a lot with the loss of their son and now Elizabeth’s cancer. I truly hope she recovers.
But most Americans (rightfully, I believe) view Mr. Edwards as a phony (notice I didn’t spell it “phoney”). Something is just “off” about the man. I read an op-ed in a North Carolina paper about how a reporter witnessed Mr. Edwards looking bored, if not downright disdainful, at the thought of mingling with the “common folk” at a rally. Then, when the time came to take the stage, he turned on his “million-dollar smile,” and the people just ate it up.
Class warfare is probably the oldest political trick in the book. Everyone wants what the other guy has, and the savvy politician recognizes this fact and exploits it. John Edwards is no different than any other self-serving politician, his perfectly-coiffed game show host haircut and gleaming white teeth notwithstanding. Some people will always manage to fall for the routine over and over again, though…

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Jim, I can’t really believe that anyone wants a democrat to win because they think anyone is going to become rich…I think the point is the exact opposite. Wealth does not need to be in the hands of 2% of society. (I don’t really believe it needs to be in the hands of politicians.) As James Madison would argue are these not the elite (smartest members of society) we have chosen to run our country? If that is the case and the Electoral College did not make a mistake why is it that we don’t spend our tax dollars here in the United States, but rather we are spending billions around the world breading hatred towards ourselves. The point is politicians are supposed to know what is best for our money. If you GOPer’s are right than why is there so much disparity?

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Greg8898, looked bored, or in deep thought about what he can do to help our drowning country…

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

oops, I think I said breading like what you do to a chicken before you fry it…not breeding like what we are doing to ourselves in regard to hatred

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Todd,
First, I believe that a huge argument can be made that those who represent us aren’t the elite or smartest (see Cynthia McKinney, or Bob Ney). Mr. Madison is, no doubt, disappointed.
However, we leave in a free market, capitalistic society, and wealth should be allowed to flow freely. The more government interferes with that, the less productive that economy is.
Does our current system have flaws. There is no doubt. This is what politicians spend most of their time doing, pointing out flaws and placing blame.
As a conservative (who does vote Republican because there isn’t a better option) I believe that the less government control, the better.
In the current Democratic field, there appears to be one constant. If elected, they will all raise taxes. Now, will that improve our economy? I don’t think so, and any economist will tell you that is counter productive.
There is so much money wasted right now that I can’t ever find a reason to support tax increases. President Bush made a very good point the other day about a proposed gas tax to fund bridge improvement. There is plenty of money spent each year out of the highway maintenance fund that could be viewed as wasteful. He listed several examples.
Again, my judgement is that the Democratic candidates are creating class envy. If I listen to Edwards, the reason we have poor people is because there are rich people. Hillary used to lament about how much CEO’s made when she came to Washington. She sings a different tune now that Bill get’s millions for speaches and books.
You will always have poor. Redistribution of wealth has FAILED everywhere it has been tried. See eastern Europe.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Ok, number one. Why do ramblings of the candidates wives/husbands even matter? Are we electing a duo? Do you take orders from your bosses wife at work? What a joke.
Now, on to the healthcare issue. She jumps all over the holes in Obamas plans leaving 15 million without healthcare. What are WE going to do about all of those people without healthcare? Why can’t WE provide healthcare for them. I’ll tell you why…because it is not our responsibility to take care of the rest of the neighborhood. It is the right thing to do to lend a helping hand. It is the wrong thing to do to throw out a lifeline and erase all personal responsibility.
And finally, why do so many liberals claim that their candidates are speaking for the majority of americans? That’s just plain ridiculous. The country sits in the center. Depending on the issues, we float to the left or right. The left wing loons like Edwards are so far off center that only the bloggers and fringe left (along with Hollywood) are on que with them.

Posted by: Mad Matt | August 14, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

On his 2004 presidential campaign highlighted the humble little house he led people to believe he grew up in. But the small home touted in commercials was Edwards’ residence until he reached the ripe old age of 1. Then, his father the mill worker was promoted to management and the family moved into a more expensive home that never appeared in his campaign ads.
It’s not that Edwards is a liar, it’s that he’s a toothy door-to-door salesman, seemingly hawking the issues when he’s really just hawking himself.

Posted by: tmoore | August 14, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

It appears that with Edwards losing ground every day in the polls, he has resorted to sending his wife out as an attack dog. It is amazing to me that he can’t see that running as the “poor people’s candidate” isn’t going to work when you get $400 haircuts, build a 30,000 square foot house, and come off looking like a used car salesman.

Posted by: Dave | August 14, 2007, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

stop attacking liz! I can appreciate her defending her man. my wife defends me all the time. makes me feel tingly…

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

I can understand where Mrs. Edwards feels that this sort of contribution to the political discourse is necessary, but it would help her cause to align her rhetoric with facts and reality. John Edwards is doubtlessly an advocate for the second-class citizenry that this administration has created, but to imply that Clinton and Obama are simply stealing his message for the sake of votes is beyond dirty politics – it’s rude and arrogant. Both of these candidates, particularly Obama, have long track records of caring for those who need more and have less. As noted by others, “the audacity of hope” was a line Obama has openly referenced for quite some time before Edwards was even on the public stage.
If Mrs. Edwards continues on this path, she will alienate her fellow party members and make herself someone who causes the rest of us to cringe when she’s handed a microphone. Please, for the sake of solidarity and the respectability of national debate – leave the cheap shots at home.

Posted by: Brock | August 14, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

john will redistribute wealth. I need money and if it comes from some wealthly person thats fine by me. I’ll vote for her I mean john.

Posted by: ea | August 14, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Jim, our country is 42nd in the world in regards to life expectancy…”Redistribution of wealth has FAILED everywhere it has been tried”…except for the 41 countries ahead of us in human life expectancy…I don’t argue for redistribution of wealth I argue for universal healthcare for every American!

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Elizabeth continues to look and act stupid going against Hillary and Ann Coulter, like she is John’s mother, not his wife.
I noticed Obama can speak for himself. Maybe Edwards should stop talking through his mommy.

Posted by: Kathy | August 14, 2007, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Todd, maybe Mr. Edwards was deep in thought trying to figure out how he could jump to the front of the line of those waiting for a new Playstation 3… at WAL-MART of all places. (Yep–it happened.)
Or maybe he was fretting about how much money (roughly $750,000) he would receive for a book deal from… RUPERT MURCOCH. (Yep–it happened.)
The man is a PHONY, PHONEY, FONY, FONEY, however anyone wants to spell it.
And to the person that suggested David Walker, the comptroller general of the US, run for president, I have two words (or names, actually): Ron Paul.

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

I think Elizabeth was right and wrong with her comments last time. RIGHT–She can’t make her husband black but WRONG-that big mouth of hers sure made him a girl. These comments today do NOT help her husband in our southern area.

Posted by: pat | August 14, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Does Mrs. Edwards even have a clue? No one cares about her opinion. No one is voting for her.
Hillary Clinton is an elected official.
Mrs. Edwards is like an unrestrained yapping poodle, deluded with her own imagined importance, harming her husband far more than if she would just shut up.

Posted by: Paul4John | August 14, 2007, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Did I read that comment right, ea? You would be perfectly willing to take money from a wealthy person because you need it? Why not go out and earn it?

Posted by: Hal | August 14, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Todd,
We are confusing the issues. First, regarding redistribution of wealth, that would be countries like the former Soviet Union, Cuba and such. You can’t make an argument that their system of government is/was better. It’s a falicy.
As for mortality, I am not certain of the countries that are ahead of us on the list. Do all 41 offer socialized medicine? I do know this, Canada has socialized medicine, and the wealthy come to the US in order to recieve better care when they are ill. Government control won’t improve the quality of healthcare, history would should that the quality will decrease.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

I believe John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich are the only two candidates who are talking about average Americans and the issues that matter to us. Elizabeth Edwards is right, she has a right to speak. Do you think Hillary would not let Bill speak? I can’t understand that so many of the people in this country can’t understand that health care in this country is a major issue. Wake up the corporations are running this country. We need a president that is not a puppet to power.

Posted by: Nora | August 14, 2007, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

VIVALABUSH bloviated, “You forgot, however, Al Gore’s self proclaimed “Father of the Internet.” Thank goodness he was never elected.”
Al Gore never claimed to be the father of the internet or even the inventor. All he ever claimed to do was help write the legislation that made it possible.
Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, two people who could be considered the leading lights of the internet, say what needs to be said about Al Gore
Too bad VIVALABUSH can’t be bothered with the facts, which explains the moniker.

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

How can ANYONE with a shread of sanity or intelligence believe a word from this guy? I mean, come on people! This guy should be selling used cars or something..

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

There is no bigger puppet than Edwards, and his wife, on some level, is assuring he will not get the nomination, plus assuring that he will not be VP for Hillary. She should have just told him, “Don’t run.” Ultimately in sabotaging him she is doing us all a favor, so keep on yapping, Liz!

Posted by: JoeScarborough | August 14, 2007, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Oh, come on people! Do we really want the federal government providing our health care? The very same inept, inefficient, bumbling bureaucracy that failed so miserably at handling Katrina? We want to put those same fools in charge of our dental fillings and rectal exams?
If that is what we are seeking, then perhaps we need to start with universal MENTAL health care.
How about if we have some sort of pilot project first, just to see if the government can in fact run a hospital efficiently and reliably.
Oh, Duh! I guess we could just look at the track record of the Veterans Administration instead.
If you think you hate your HMO now, wait until you have to stand in line at the post office to see your doctor.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

JBL55:
“During a March 1999 CNN interview, while trying to differentiate himself from rival Bill Bradley, Gore boasted: “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.”
From an article by Declan McCullagh
I think we’re spliting hairs. Does he imply he created it, that statement can be taken either way. The truth is, Al had a history of overstating his self importance to the world. He still does. He did state that he and Tipper were the inspiration for the movie “Love Story”.
It’s hard to find support for a guy who has consistantly “stepped in it” throughout his career.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

regarding that op-ed I didn’t realize that you could read a mind by watching a face. Maybe John Edwards was thinking of his son maybe he was worn out that day. Who knows?

Posted by: Nora | August 14, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

To Cliff Davis I say, just another liberal wanting the government to take care of evereybody in a halfassed way. Cliff, the people living paycheck to paycheck made decisions in their lives that put them where they are now. It is not my fault, it is not your fault. It is their fault. Let them take care of themselves. It is what makes America great. Freedom to do as you choose. I didn’t choose the same path they did and I am better off for it

Posted by: mark | August 14, 2007, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

John Edwards is an insufferably patronizing poseur and a smarmy, demagogic, two-dimensional life-size cutout of a “Ken” doll. His wife is a shrill, grasping, obsessive, hateful, bilious virago. Just what we need in the White House!

Posted by: archangel | August 14, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

the government currently provides our mail service, our fire prevention service, our schools. I sure wouldn’t want a fire department for profit. think a little further now and think about health care for profit connect the dots….

Posted by: Nora | August 14, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

He (Edwards) may be a Ken , but she is three dimensional Barbie

Posted by: tmoore | August 14, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Where do you pull all of that stuff about Elizabeth Edwards from? Do you have a hate thing going on about women, mothers, grieving parents, and any other persoanlity traits that are normal?

Posted by: Nora | August 14, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

I just can’t stand the thought of normal people (and I use that term loosely) like you folks and myself potentially loosing everything we work so hard for everyday because we can’t have food and healthcare so we must choose…and when we choose to feed our family and our child develops cancer we go bankrupt. THAT IS NOT AMERICAN! I do have insurance, but I also have empathy and I can put myself in someone else’s shoes. This really shouldn’t be a polarized issue.

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Mail service and public schools? Are those supposed to be shining examples of well-run government programs?

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

there I go again losing…not loosing

Posted by: Todd | August 14, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

jimbo56:
Perhaps you forget that what we call the Internet today did not exist before the legislation which Al Gore took the initiative in creating was enacted.
Before that point, it was a disparate collection of independent networks such as ARPANET and others. In the CNN interview, Wolf Blitzer clearly understood that to be Al’s meaning.
So, yes, Al Gore deserves credit, both for having the vision and having the legislative skills to make it happen.

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Nora, maybe the reporter can’t read Mr. Edwards’ mind. But he doesn’t have to. Mr. Edwards’ actions reveal him as the hypocrite he is.
He took money from Rupert Murcoch, then complained about Mrs. Clinton doing it. He thought he should be allowed to cut in line (at WAL-MART!?!) so he could be sure to get a new Playstation 3. He accepted a large salary from a hedge fund dealing in subprime mortgages (yep–those same subprime mortgages that have been all over the news lately). He built an utterly enormous house with enough square footage for ten families.
He’s lookin’ out for the “poor folks?” How naive can you possibly be? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FACTS!

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

“John Edwards is an insufferably patronizing poseur and a smarmy, demagogic, two-dimensional life-size cutout of a “Ken” doll. His wife is a shrill, grasping, obsessive, hateful, bilious virago. Just what we need in the White House!”
archangel
Amen to that.

Posted by: Epstein | August 14, 2007, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Gotta love the liberal demagoguery, though.
It’s evolved from “30 million American’s don’t have health insurance” to “30 million Americans don’t have health CARE”.
I suppose the next iteration will be “30 million Americans DIED because they didn’t have health care”.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Have you ever tried the mail services in Mexico? I always get my mail don’t you? As far as taking money from Murdoch I believe that was from a publishing company that Murdoch owned and that was for work done not from a donation to his campaign. As far as hedge funds and subprime mortgages who in the banking industry wasn’t making money including all of our pention funds. What we need is oversight on mortgages which we did not get from George Bush and his cronies. It is just right back to the savings and loan scandal that was set off by the Bush brothers in the 80s. Or are you old enough to remember that nightmare.

Posted by: n | August 14, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Attacking the motive of others instead of their political position makes the Edwards’ similar to the GOP machine by essentially saying, if we disagree, you must be lacking authenticity, or worse yet, you must be evil, out to destroy the republic. I wish they (candidates and spouse alike) would stick to the issues, and let their political opponents harm on the personal nuances.

Posted by: Learner | August 14, 2007, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Diana: If you think Universal Health Care is a politician telling a doctor to be a doctor, you are sadly mistaken or misinformed. Do yourself a favour and take a trip north of the border into Canada and talk to people there or if you have the money go to the NHS clinics in the UK or to the health clinics in France and talk to the people and the doctors. The government does not tell the doctors how to be doctors in those systems.

Posted by: Santa | August 14, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Oh yea and my kids were all educated by the public schools. One is in dental school one is applying for medical school and the other is on the way to becoming an accountant. I say the public schools were pretty darn good. and with support can only get better

Posted by: Nora | August 14, 2007, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

JBL55: Al Gore did not invent the internet. Google “DARPAnet” and read the truth. DARPAnet was in existence when Al was in grade/high school.

Posted by: Santa | August 14, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

BTW jimbo56, where did you get the idea that Al Gore ever stated “that he and Tipper were the inspiration for the movie ‘Love Story’?”
Let me save you some time. He didn’t. If you can find an unimpeachable source which proves he did, send it the people at “The Daily Howler” so they can “fix” their debunking of this tedious myth

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

n:
Umm, yeah… I try the mail services in Mexico all the time… Absolutely fabulous…
???
Oh, and I see my mistake now. It’s ok for John Edwards to take $800,000 from Murdoch because it was for a BOOK. Hillary’s $20,000 CAMPAIGN DONATION from the same guy is INEXCUSABLE. My bad…
And yep, we need more oversight on mortgages. The government should have stepped in before all these people were allowed to buy houses. I mean, who do they think they are? Rich people? Come on!
Or maybe the banks did this all to make more money! HOW GREEDY! We all know how much banks make when they’re forced to absorb losses through foreclosures! And all of these corporate lending bankruptcies are GREAT for business.
Right?

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Ron: Clinton did a great job of alienating his own party’s congressional block with the hubris of wanting to smash through a whole slew of proposals with little or no compromise. When his proposals went stillbourne, that’s when the electorate ushered in the Repub majority, after the democarts had a congressional majority since the New Deal era. That was not enough time to reform this broken system?

Posted by: Santa | August 14, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I don’t need to Google anything, Santa. I am old enough to remember the whole evolution of the Internet, and Al Gore stated it exactly correctly. Is it his fault you insist on misinterpreting his remarks?
Perhaps your Google searches are bringing you to web sites that promulgate Gore-bashing myths.

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Neil Bush was investigated but never indicted for giving himself a loan from Silverado.
However, the most notorious figure in the S&L scandal was Charles Keating, who was convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy. Five U.S. senators were implicated in an influence-peddling scheme to assist Keating (The Keating Five.)
Of the five, the two Republicans (John Glenn and John McCain) were exonerated.
The three Democrats (Alan Cranston, Don Riegle, and Dennis DeConcini) flushed their political careers down the toilet.
Ah, good times. I remember it well.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Why is it so many Repubs can’t spell or construct a coherent sentence?

Posted by: pilgrim | August 14, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Re: JoeScarborough
John Edwards’s health care plan is not like the VA. Read it so you can talk intelligently.
In the Edwards’s solution you pick your plan. You pick your doctor. You don’t have to worry about pre-existing conditions, losing a job, or some quirk you never knew about until you became sick, to have your health care taken away from you.
The VA runs all the health care, doctors and sets the covered illnesses.
John Edwards’s plan requires everyone have health insurance, just like the CEOs and Congress does. And being someone who is 57 and relies on a husband whose health is fragile for health insurance from his job, it sounds pretty good to me.
As far as Elizabeth Edwards is concerned, “hope” is not the only thing Obama copies of John Edwards. Get off you high horse and read up on their different plans.
Also, was anything else she said incorrect? You know people have gotten off issues when you read junk like “using her illness for the campaign”, “her husband was an ambulance chaser”, “she’s overshadowing her husband.”
John Edwards has the most comprehensive plans in every area. He has come out with them early and boldly. If you ever get to meet him like I do in Iowa, you know he’s a decent, honest, hard working man.
How many Ann Coulter wannabees do we have writing responses to this blog? Too many! I’d say a lot of people got up on the wrong side of the rock.

Posted by: JoAnnCr | August 14, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

JBL55: Dinking the Al Gore flavoured Kool-aid does not mean his words are the truth. Al Gore may have increased the funding when he was a Senator, but that is a big difference than what he claimed.
I’m a big boy, hence you can cut the stool with the personal attacks, they’re not needed if your facts stand up, which they obviously don’t:
ARPANET was the network that became the basis for the Internet. Based on a concept first published in 1967, ARPANET was developed under the direction of the U.S. Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA). In 1969, the idea became a modest reality with the interconnection of four university computers. The initial purpose was to communicate with and share computer resources among mainly scientific users at the connected institutions. ARPANET took advantage of the new idea of sending information in small units called packets that could be routed on different paths and reconstructed at their destination. The development of the TCP/IP protocols in the 1970s made it possible to expand the size of the network, which now had become a network of networks, in an orderly way.
In the 1980s, ARPANET was handed over to a separate new military network, the Defense Data Network, and NSFNET, a network of scientific and academic computers funded by the National Science Foundation. In 1995, NSFNet in turn began a phased withdrawal to turn the backbone of the Internet (called vBNS) over to a consortium of commercial backbone providers (PSINet, UUNET,ANS/AOL, Sprint, MCI, and AGIS-Net99).
Because ARPA’s name was changed to Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in 1971, ARPANET is sometimes referred to as DARPANET. (DARPA was changed back to ARPA in 1993 and back to DARPA again in 1996.) The history of ARPANET and developments leading up to today’s Internet can be found in Where Wizards Stay Up Late, by Katie Hafner and Matthew Lyon.

Posted by: Santa | August 14, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

D or R, run on IMMIGRATION,.

Posted by: DJ MacMurphy | August 14, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

You din not answer my questiion do you receive mail? If you don’t use the mail service or publio schools say so.
A donation is different than earnings period, maybe Edwards should of gone to another publisher.
You are correct that many of these people should never have been allowed a loan that is why they were in the subprime market to begin with. These loans being called are just a result of a greedy coportate policy in which loans were made to people who could’t afford them and shouldn’t of received them.
The bundling of subprime mortgages did make great sums of money up until the the interest rates jumped on variable rates and now when the mortgages are all failing we as tax payers will be bailing out the banks once again. Just as we did for the airlines and so on. This is corporations living off the taxpayer

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

JBL55,
Is Al your Daddy? It is pretty much accepted that Al has a history of embelishing things.
Go to http://www.gargaro.com and there is a list of gore quotes and misquotes. They would support your claim that Al didn’t exactly say he and Tipper were the inspiration, they say Segal tolh him they were the inspiration.
Now again, this seems to be splitting hairs. Read through the entire work and see if you think Al doesn’t have a problem with the truth.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

John Glenn was a democrat by the way not a Republican.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

None of the facts you recite contradict anything Al Gore ever said. He held hearings to garner support to fund some of the very efforts you describe, and he wrote and sponsored legislation needed to coordinate the efforts of the variously involved governmental agencies, but he certainly never claimed to have “invented” the Internet. If you can show otherwise, please provide the supporting evidence.
As two of those who were actually there (something which neither you nor I can claim) said in 2000, “As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an ‘Interagency Network.’ Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush’s administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This “Gore Act” supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.”
(Entire quote from Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Neil Bush was a board member on the Silverado Savings and loan a well known failure that cost the American people a billion dollars

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

I agree with Kerry. People who are not required to pay for something generally abuse the privilege of “free” care and entitlements. Nothing is free. Too bad nobody teaches basic economics any more. It used to be taught to children by parents and teachers. I used to work for a large hospital and we saw the enormous abuse of services by those who do not pay whether it was because of entitlements or because they just didn’t want to pay. People were willing to pay for vacations, jewelry and fancy clothes but they did not pay their hospital bills because they didn’t feel they should have to. That increased the costs to all of those who paid. Those who did pay were often less well off than the people who were ripping us off. The left just doesn’t want to understand or doesn’t care. Their political agenda trumps everything. They are selfish narcissists who generally live in the ivory tower and have never held a real job in their lives.

Posted by: Lily | August 14, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Nora, I don’t use the Mexican mail service or the “publio” schools. I’m not a Mexican, thus I cannot comment on them.
For your sake, I hope you’re not defending the government services of Mexico. Are you? And if you are, in fact, a Mexican, what business do you have commenting on American government services?
As for me saying the government shouldn’t have “allowed” these people to take out loans, I was being sarcastic. Honestly, speaking as one of these “subprime” folks, I’ve done just fine with my loan, just as many others have. This has been the ONLY way some of these people could ever afford a house. And for you to say the GOVERNMENT should have told them “what’s best” is the absolute height of arrogance.
But I’d expect nothing less from a liberal.

Posted by: Greg8898 | August 14, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Joanne,
You’ve highlighted the talking points of John’s healthcare plan and it all sounds simply wonderful. Like all broschures, there are unanswered questions.
First, does John say how we are going to pay for all of it? Where does he get his numbers from?
How does he get the doctors to subscribe to this program?
What about liability? Does he guarantee treatment in every town?
These are bigger questions which never get answered but we see the wrapping and it all looks so nice.

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

“John Edwards comes across as a big phoney. He is the Democrat version of Dan Quayle.” – So true, so true!

Posted by: S1 | August 14, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

Has anyone noticed that left wing liberals have absolutely no sense of humor?

Posted by: Barry | August 14, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Jimbo56, you wrote that “they say Segal tolh him they were the inspiration.”
“They” are wrong. Segal said nothing of the kind. A Time magazine reporter thought it would be neat if he had, and the thing took on a life of its own.
And jimbo56: Al is not my “Daddy.” Facts are. It is hard enough to communicate in this polarized world without stumbling through thickets of half-truths and flat-out lies by people who wish certain people had said certain things when in fact they did not.

Posted by: JBL55 | August 14, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Just like a conservative twist twist twist till you can twist no more.
First off I am using Mexican mail sarcaticly. Answer the question do you use US mail service or not and our schools? If you do you are involved in a government run program.
Regarding these loans, did the banks make many bad loans for money or did they do it for the individuals taking the loans? My quess would be for money not to help any person who could not qualify.
Now if they did this for money are we as tax payers obligated to clean up the mess now?
So if we have to provide help for corporate America why are you so against helping your neighbor in trouble?
Most people who end up with bad credit are there because of illness or loss of jobs.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Nora,
Yes, I do in fact receive mail from the USPS. I admit that they do a pretty good job of getting my Netflix DVDs to me.
Now tell us: the last time you made a purchase on Amazon, did you select the “Free Supersaver Shipping” from the government-run USPS, with no tracking number and only a vague idea, within a fortnight or two, of when your package might arrive?
Or did you opt instead to spend the extra $7 to have it shipped via the for-profit-evil-corporation FedEx, with a tracking number that works and a system that guarantees that if you take the morning off to stay home to receive your shipment, it will in fact arrive?
The USPS was in the dark ages until competition from the evil, greed-driven FedEx and UPS forced them to modernize.
As recently as a few years ago, my local post office was still using a BALANCE SCALE to weigh letters. (Place letter on scale. Tap, tap, tap the little weight to the left. Tap, tap, tap the little weight to the right. Tap, tap tap…okay, 3-5/8ths ounces. Now where did I put the rate chart?)
I’m fortunate that I can work from home (thank you, Al Gore, for inventing the internet.) My letter carrier doesn’t get the concept. He won’t load parcels on his truck, assuming that no one is ever home. Instead, he just puts the little pink slip in my mailbox that says he “tried to deliver” and I can go to the post office to get it.
My point is that the profit motive is a powerful and effective tool for driving efficiencies and lowering costs. And I don’t believe that letting the federal government meddle with the health care industry is a good idea for anyone.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

If your are in the subprime market you are just a heart beat away from ending up destitute. If you get sick are you going to suddenly become liberal.
On the other hand I own a number of homes and am pretty comfortable. I’m not afraid of sharing with you if you end up in the street. Why are you against helping someone else down on their luck like yourself

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

This banter is utter madness. Dems. Liberals! What this country needs is more GWB and is ilk. REPUBLICAN values continue to make this country great! In our heart or hearts, truly and honestly, we all know this fact to be self evident…….

Posted by: KKKrazy | August 14, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

“John Glenn was a democrat by the way not a Republican.”
My bad. Thanks for the correction.
I doubt if he will be voting for Hillary or John-Boy, though.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

I am convinced that our society is systematically whipping out the existence of “real men”. Men in our society are gradually forgetting what it means to be loyal, have respect, defend the weak and protect your land (I am sure I am forgetting a few adjectives). This is because our society is telling them that it is ok to put your tail between your legs and run for cover. More and more men are making decisions based on their feelings rather than tactical logic (a balance between the two would be ideal). Men in the past stood up for and defended their families, their country and their beliefs and they were willing to die doing so. Today showing any signs of patriotism is criticized and considered barbaric or insensitive. While we are feeling ourselves up the enemy is planning to come into our feel good world to get a foothold on our lives to control our every move—they don’t care about how we feel. They want one thing and that is our obedience to their beliefs—they believe in dictatorship. If that is the kind of world you want Americas then keep on the path you are on. YOU ARE MAKING IT SO EASY FOR THEM. Keep sympathizing with them. And you will receive your just reward.
Granted war is the last resort, but how do we fight a ruthless enemy? They don’t even care about their own people. They kill the innocence to get their point across. Saddam Hussein was an evil man, Hitler was an evil man, and Al Qaeda is made up of evil people. When we fought against Hitler and his army to save the Jews from genocide it was said that we acted too late. People were grateful at the time and I am sure they still are but the critics are always there to condemn when the dust settles. Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t!
Apologizing for the war? What! Are you crazy? The war was not against innocent citizens we rescued them…when the dust settles what will they say?
Tell me this, how many would rather fight on own soil? Should we wait until it’s too late before we act or is it preferred that we head the enemy off before they are standing in our front yard?
THINK PEOPLE: Yes, war is bad—innocent people die, but to what end? We are free to speak out against the President and the war because of those who fought and won independence for all who come running here for a better life.
I am very sorry for the families who have lost loved ones and for the innocent people who lost their lives for the sake of freedom and democracy…that is what the apology should be about not for going after the enemy who will come after us if we do nothing to stop them.
REALIZE THIS: They are growing stronger every day because they are like cancer, infecting the weak, and they laugh at us because we are fighting civilly while they fight like barbarians. We need to make them uneasy and disband them. Those of you who think we should leave them alone…you frighten me. We need people running this country who knows the meaning of loyalty, justice, respect, and what it means to defend this land. Our President should be a strong leader not some weak link who bends to satisfy the inaccurate media generated poles.

Posted by: HS | August 14, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Rie Rie – You could not have said it any better. Thank you. The same people who complain about the federal government and their response to Katrina want this same “incompetent” federal government to handle “Universal Health Care” – whatever the heck that means. Speaking of the health care issue: with 300 million Americans and only 15 million un-insured, that is 5% – 5% people. Hardly a national crisis, but as long as they beat that dead horse people can focus on that rather than those losers in Washington who say one thing and do another. They are having a grand old time at taxpayers expense and now we’ve got these morons running for president for 3 years before the election. Pathetic. When do they have time to “work” for their constituents when they are off campaigning here and there? All incumbents need to be voted OUT and all their perks need to be eliminated. TERM LIMITS are what we need. None of the candidates are worth two s—- and we better wake up!
People need to take care of themselves and stop looking to the government for EVERYTHING – THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THE COUNTRY – THEY CARE ABOUT LINING THEIR OWN POCKETS.
I STILL LOVE AMERICA!

Posted by: donna | August 14, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

wow… this lady just continues to embarrass herself and her husband… she needs to think before she speaks… she should talk and practice what she preaches!

Posted by: BIG franky | August 14, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

JBL55,
Well, thanks for clearing it up. Al is THE MAN!!

Posted by: jimbo56 | August 14, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

I don’t know how Edward’s can seriously talk about fixing America’s health care problems. Here husband (an ambulance chasing attorney) is one of the people who creates them.

Posted by: Tim | August 14, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

bobarian,
You’ve got it all wrong BOBARIAN that is what we pay taxes for, I believe in small businesses I have owned one for 20 years. We all support the “commons”. If we don’t keep up our roads, schools, etc. where would we be as a country.
Do you use the roads also along with the US mail and schools?

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

I feel the catty remarks aimed at Mrs. Edwards are uncalled for. For my money, she showed guts and insight with her comments maybe not wisdom in saying them publicly maybe with wisdom only time will tell. The thing about the Edwards is of the 3 main dem candidates excluding Gore John and Elizabeth feel to me by far the most sincere in their committment to the have nots of this country. I agree with her that her husband is the only one of these 3 that has a vision whereas the other 2 are still trying to figure out where that happy point is in the middle of the political spectrum that will get them enough money to run and ultimately elected.
John Edwards has laid out his vision even if it means losing out on some financial backing. Obama by my reading has his heart where Edwards landed with both feet but doesnt quite have the guts to buck the system totally commit to the have nots. Hillary appears to be willing to say anything that she believes she needs to say to get elected than probably intends to do right by as many people as possible as long as she has the politcal clout to do it. Gore and Edwards are the only real current visionaries until further notice. I just hope one of them gets elected.

Posted by: chitown | August 14, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

Okay, here’s my announcement. I’m running for President of the United States of America.
Here’s my platform: The US is the richest nation on the planet, ever. We can easily afford to just give every one of our 300 million people $1 million each.
Here’s how it works: if you don’t already have a million dollars, say you only have $500k, then you get an additional $500k, so now you have your million.
But, if you already have MORE than a million, like Bill Gates or John Edwards, you have to give up the excess to help fund the program.
(And I can just print more if I need to, after all, I’m the president!)
See, it’s compassionate, it’s fair.
Vote for your million dollars!
Vote Bobarian!
(Now, can someone please explain why this would be a really bad idea?)

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

God Bless the Edwards family. If John Edwards is elected, Elizabeth Edwards will go down in history as being as great a first lady as Eleanor Roosevelt.

Posted by: cfaye | August 14, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Most skillful use of a personal tragedy in the furtherance of a political agenda since Cindy Sheehan. You go, girl.

Posted by: Stowbilly | August 14, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

without our government’s involvement we would not have had a railroad system, a national highway system, water systems, sewer systems, parks, schools, mail,electrical grid, NASA, army, navy, airforce, etc. Do I need to say more. Think who is fighting this fight Insurance companies don’t want you to believe that other countries are fine with their healthcare. Wake up and look at who is making the money off of this ridiculous argument. INSURANCE COMPANIES1

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

bob a rian
I did not offer my house to Katrina victims but I had a house that I had offered to Catholic Charities for similar purposes they did turn down the offer after determining the house was in an area that they would have trouble with neighbors possibly being upset with it being used to help the poor.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

I guess I was wrong, I have cancer, but can not get away with the crap Liz does. ABC managed to censor my comment on the fact that Liz should not be bulletproof cuz she has cancer.
Her cancer makes her John’s front man as she is “The victim”. Great lesson for your kids. Go back to your mansion – HYPOCRITE.

Posted by: M algore | August 14, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

you continue to offer examples well-run government programs that just don’t inspire me very much.
NASA? Fifty percent of the shuttle fleet has failed in spectacular disasters. If the space program was a private enterprise, we would be able to vacation on Mars by now.
Remember, folks! If you want the job done right, let private enterprise do it!

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

liberal arrogance as you call it is becoming more and more popular. people believe in the “commons” I’m glad you don’t have to drive anywhere, because maybe it will be your bridge going down next and God help if you get sick and your company lets you go and your kid gets sick maybe then you might get it. It is not about your job at home it is about all of us in this together making this the greatest country in the world, because we are willing to not only improvise with incredible ideas, but because we know that we are great because we are UNITED. Why are you so interested in making sure that Insurance companies make such outrageous profits off of you.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

“commons” as in “communism”.
Same Latin root.
Guess we can be glad they’ve decided to quit pretending otherwise.
I have no problem with reforming the insurance industry. Why are you so interested in seeing the government control every aspect of our lives?

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

have you ever heard of the old saying that you would cut off your nose to spite your face. that is you and your conservative friends.
You don’t listen. you ridicule because you have no answers.
I actaully knew you would site NASA as a failure, why did you not also mention our infrasturcture and schools etc. they all need a boost. Our country is bankrupt because of the money that is wasted in this war and the unwillingness to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

I think it is funny that you all think it is terrible to have the government involved in health insurance and yet you have no problem with NSA watching and listening to your every move

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Nora,
If the government wants to reform the health INSURANCE industry, I have no problem with that.
The issue is that the liberals want to RUN the health CARE industry, (just as they do public schools), and I have a BIG problem with that.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

Greg8898 raises the scary issue.
Will anyone be allowed to opt out of Universal Health Care? Or will everyone be forced into it because it “won’t be viable otherwise”.
But I don’t concede the point that “our country is bankrupt”. Tax revenues are way up, and the federal debt is way down.
The Laffer Curve is painful FACT to tax-and-spend liberals.
When Starbucks goes out of business because nobody can spend $7 on a cup of friggin’ coffee, then I’ll believe the economy is ruined.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

The person who said they appear to doing the old “candidate takes the high road, surrogate throws the low blows routine” is right. That said, what’s the point in all the personal invective, either by Ms. Edwards or in comments and postings about her and her husband. All the name calling just distracts from issues and closes minds.

Posted by: justannesopinion | August 14, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

now lets just imagine that there is only walmart along with maybe three or four other supermarkets and they sell the same products with no competition. Now you can understand the grip that corporate insurance has on our government and its leaders including democrats. It is the corporation that is the problem not the government. It is called FACISM. They are buying our government we are paying for them to screw us with our own taxes.

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Well, now you’ve used the F-word, so I guess you win the argument.

Posted by: Bobarian | August 14, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

We’re hearing far more from Mrs. Edwards than we are from the candidate. What she should be doing is consulting a media advisor before she opens her mouth. John Edwards is running for President not her; if he has nothing to say then she should leave well enough alone. I admire her for wanting to speak out about the issues for the upcoming election but I also think it’s abit early for her to start attacking the other candiates, espcially since Edwards hasn’t won the primary. She should hold her applause till the end.

Posted by: B. Evans | August 14, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Excuse the spelling now answer the question. Does nothing but government make you afraid?

Posted by: nora | August 14, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

People that believe in the libera/socialaist clap trap spouted by the Edwards make me very afraid. There allrged policies have failed everywhere they have ever been forced on people. Cuba, Russia, Venezuela, Communist China, East Germany, even France (10% plus unemployment anyone?) not to mention the inner cities of the US. Be very afraid of the Edwards policies and those that believe in them.

Posted by: NC Guy | August 14, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

If the Republican debate a couple of weeks ago is any indication, the debate on Sunday is going to be a boring, non-informative, waste of time.

Posted by: OEST | August 14, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm

ABC News is as worse as Fox News. Media consolidation is the scourge of America. The stupid comments of most on this page, prove that the media has failed.
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free…it expects what was and never will be. The people cannot be safe without information…When the press is free and every man is able to read, all is safe.” — Thomas Jefferson
Well, TJ, it also matters 1) what they read, and 2) if they are willing to read instead of just sit on their behinds and get proselytized by television media.
The twisted perspective of people ls enough proof.

Posted by: OEST | August 14, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

What is so scary about a strong woman with strong opinions? John Edwards is man enough to not be threatened by a strong wife, so why don’t you people get over yourselves. Elizabeth raised some very valid points. And she didn’t stoop to personal attacks such as those that have been leveled at her husband.
She knows the difference between pejorative and constructive criticism. Grow up people.

Posted by: Mardee | August 14, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

I appreciate the fact that Elizabeth Edwards has the courage to say what needs to be said. John Edwards and his well thought out plans are what is best for our country. Do yourself a favor and accually compare his ideas to the other candidates ideas and you will see. Education is our right and duty as voting Americans.
I applaud the honesty and the convictions of both John and Elizabeth Edwards.

Posted by: DW | August 14, 2007, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

It’s ok to be a strong woman and run for pres. but you must be quiet if you’re a candidate’s wife. Give me a break….Let her speak and make her points without being raked over the coals as if she’s committed a crime.

Posted by: Cathy | August 14, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Elizabeth needs to focus on recovering from cancer and being an advocate for breast cancer awareness. Leave the politics to your husband!

Posted by: Shermelia | August 14, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Who pays for her monthly insurance premiums? Is it the taxpayers of the State of North Carolina? Or the US taxpayer? That’s socialized healthcare–she’s sure lucky to have it! Like Rudy Giuliani and Mrs. Paul, Mrs Edwards has ‘the best’ WHILE HER HUSBAND DOES NOT SUPPORT HR 676-HEALTHCARE FOR ALL–BUT TAP DANCES AROUND IT –USING WORDS LIKE ‘AFFORDABLE’ AND ‘TELLING US’ WHAT’S ‘WRONG’ IN THE US WITH HEALTHCARE–HEY WE KNOW WHAT’S WRONG! JOHN EDWARDS is another insurance cartel toady–UNITL HE PROVES US WRONG BY COMING OUT SWINGING IN FAVOR OF HR 676!

Posted by: Ila | August 15, 2007, 12:37 am 12:37 am

This was not good publicity for Edwards. I don’t know what would make her think saying these things was a good idea. Her husband did say he was sorry for voting for the war, but he did vote for it. Sorry doesn’t mean a great deal with 670,000 people dead. I was never duped by Bush, and I’m not a politician privvy to inside information. If he’s really sorry, then he should go to Iraq and help them rebuild their lives, and then do the same with the families in America who have lost their husbands, wives, daughters, sons, fathers, mothers, sisters, and brothers. Then, I will believe he is really sorry.

Posted by: mizonglohong | August 15, 2007, 5:17 am 5:17 am

“Obama gives a speech that’s likely to be extraordinarily popular in his home district,” Edwards said, “and then comes to the Senate and votes for funding… so you are going to get people behaving in a holier-than-thou way.”
Obama was against the war even though he knew he was running for the U.S. Senate seat, standing up for what he knew was a disaster, even at a time when the Iraq war was EXTREMELY popular/supported nationally, and certainly in Illinois at well. Who is holier-than-thou now Mrs. Edwards? It is your husband who voted for the war!

Posted by: tim in chicago | August 15, 2007, 6:24 am 6:24 am

Personally, I think it is refreshing to have a woman that speaks her mind on the issues and any controversy that is aimed at her husband’s campaign. This country doesn’t need another Laura Bush who never has an opinion on anything. Elizabeth is an American citizen, who still has the right to free speech. Why are the neocons so nervous and upset when she makes her opinions known? Do they think that women should not be vocal? Thankfully, this is not a candidate’s wife that will not be silenced or pushed around. To say mean things about her health is so atrocious and inhumane. I would guess that these writers have never dealt with such an awful disease in their family. Elizabeth will make a great First Lady that we can all be proud of. I just can’t believe that there are still people out there that would actually vote for another neocon after what all this country has been through with that ignorant screwup that is in there now. Advice for people that do not like liberals: we won’t back down.

Posted by: Julie | August 15, 2007, 8:53 am 8:53 am

I would take so-called “liberal arrogance” over “conservative corruption” any day.
Despite what your personal feelings are about Elizabeth Edwards, she is a strong, intelligent woman and she should be allowed to have her say. This country is in trouble. Anyone without permanent horse-blinders on can see that. John Edwards is one of the only candidates that has put forth strong ideas for change. If his wife wants to loudly and strongly support him, more power to her!
Shame on those of you who put her down just for speaking her mind! You all have opinions on the matter and you sound 100% more vicious, narrow-minded, and catty than you accuse HER of being!

Posted by: Lesley | August 15, 2007, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Sorry Greg. I don’t recall calling anyone a “fascist”, and I don’t ever recall John Edwards using that term either.
I’m sorry to hear about your friend, but that is exactly the type of thing that John Edwards is TRYING to fix. Not throwing a quick band-aid on it like our current health plans offer, but by trying to form REAL solutions, fueled by the input of people he has met and personally talked to that have an interest in such things.
Honestly, some of the rants against Edwards on this forum are starting to sound like verbatim recreations of inflammatory media blogs.

Posted by: Lesley | August 15, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

I rarely go where the republican trolls like to inhabit but couldnt resist the frank comments from Ms. Edwards. After reading a lot of these comments once again the republicans come off like a bunch of pampered kids. For so many years Repub politcians like Bush can say dumb things, lie about going to Iraq, break laws like Libby and Rove and the MSM looks the other way or puts on the best possible spin for the repubs. Yet if one Dem even sniffs speaking truth to power the R politicos, their supporters and the media go absolutely nuts. God forbid a woman who is fighting off death be given an ounce of leeway to speak her mind about important matters. No doubt the security of the nation is at risk. The pampered republican politicians and their supporters have had their backbone bred out of them by years of the media giving them an easy time. If anyone of you screaming about how its unfair for this brave woman to be able to speak her mind just because she is fighting off cancer could see how absolutley heartless that position is you might find an ounce of integrity and guts to just let her speak her mind and move on.

Posted by: chitown | August 15, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Just read the comments above mine and have to speak on its shortsightedness. If Greg their would take off his “red state glasses” for a moment you might consider the fact that the Katrina mess appears to have more to do with the indifference of the people at the top of burearcratic food chain than the ones at the bottom. I think its pretty obvious for any organization small, mediium or humongous like the government that the folks at the top of the food chain set the bar for effectiveness. Clinton for all his faults took care of disasters a million times better than Bush and his bunch of losers ever did or ever will. And I must thank you for showing me that HMO’s and big insurance companies arent as bureaucratically heartless as is our very big government. No doubt those stories about HMO’s letting people die because it would cost them too much money shows that there approach is much better than letting the big bad US government run things. Of course those countries that have universal health care that also are rated as having better overall health care than the US is just a matter of figures lie and liars figure. Or is it really that blind voters for liars that kill people.

Posted by: chitown | August 15, 2007, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Elizabeth and John Edwards are worth a fortune thanks to his ambulance chasing and his position with Fortress Investments. They, along with Hillary and Bill, John and Teresa, Ted and Victoria and all the fabulously wealthy libs should use their own money to fund health insurance for everyone. They are all crooks who prey on uneducated, ignorant people. And thanks to the destruction of our educational system there is no shortage of uneducated, ignorant people. It is so much easier to propagandize people when they have no frame of reference.

Posted by: sandy | August 16, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

I wonder if Elizabeth or John ever considers paying for treatments of one of Her fellow patients who cannot afford the treatment.

Posted by: Bill | August 17, 2007, 12:28 am 12:28 am

“Most people who end up with bad credit are there because of illness or loss of jobs.”
Where on earth do you people find these “facts” that you claim. Left wing blogs maybe? This statement is so far from the truth it is sad. I’ve done a lot of credit counseling when I worked for a bank. Most of the credit problems encountered are due to irresponsibility.

Posted by: Matt | August 17, 2007, 9:15 am 9:15 am

I have stage IV cancer:bones, liver, lungs. I am 37 years old. That woman is getting a vaccine that is given to less than .05% of all breast cancer patients. Not because it doesn’t work for everyone, not because it isn’t available. It is because insurance, medicare and your pocket cannot cover it. It costs 146,000 and change per year. These two people disgust me. They are exploiters, liars, without any real compassion for anyone. These people with thier basketball court in the house, sewing room larger than the average apartment in NYC etc. etc. etc. THEY ARE THE ONES YOU ARE CONSIDERING TO REPRESENT YOU THE PEOPLE? WHY NOT JUST BURN THE WORLD DOWN? WAKE UP. IT IS NOT TOO LATE. DO NOT BECOME INVOLVED IN THE DOG AND PONY SHOW. STAY FOCUSED AND THROW THEM OUT AT THE POLLS.

Posted by: Tired of Lies | August 18, 2007, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

I would have voted for the Iraq war. Good lord, it was our President warning us of this very grave danger.
Who, including members of Congress, would in his/her right mind believe that OUR President would lie to us on a matter of such great import?
Clinton, Kerry and others that voted for the Iraq war have NOTHING to apologize for. Remember that Bush and Cheney went around telling us there were weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam was developing nuclear weapons.
The President was telling us what at the time we believed to be the truth. As did most Americans. Apologize? For what believing our President?
Of course we now know we were lied to by Bush/Cheney.

Posted by: tarscampbell | August 19, 2007, 12:23 am 12:23 am

I respect mrs Edward but if this is the way her husband going to run the country having his wife playing attack dog an mr Edwards cant speak out when he disagrees i think he should be running to be liberated an stead of for president.

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