Giuliani: Clinton Spewing ‘Political Venom’ on Iraq

Come on now, Rudy, give Hillery a break. She’s got a lot on her plate right now trying to launder $850,000 of corrupt Hsu cash.

It doesn’t surprise me at all that she would make those comments. She is as crocked as they come.

How is telling the truth of the matter an “attack”? AWWWWWWWWWWW poor little Hillary can’t defend herself. Good thing she’s got her ABC poodle to yap back at mean old Mr. Giuliani.

Yea, besides, she has to seem like she supports everything that that HATE organization offers. Once again the Hypocrisy of the LEFT is shown in Vivid Color. Hillery blasted Don Imus for Hate speech, yet she supports what those %&*%&% did to a 4 Star General. They will never, ever win another Presidential election. There is nothing Presidential about Hitlery, Edwards et,al..

Rudy’s a lying DBag.
A one hit 9/11 wonder.

Petraeus is a liar plain and simple. She was too easy on him.

Only the GOP can accept Gen P’s re-worked version his pro-Bush 04 Op Ed piece and we’re supposed to take it seriously?
Also, by definition, a surge is a temporary thing. Taking the 30k surged in soldiers back out is NOT a reduction of the troops, it is the natural end of the ‘surge’. It is more Bush/GOP doublespeak.

I thought it was a war on terrorism. No, wait … it was an effort to bring democracy to the middle east. No … crusade? Anyway … the democrats are different because they aren’t killing Americans, for one. Also, as far as I know, they don’t live in caves in Pakistan, nor do they train each other on how to build bombs. And last time I checked the Democrats also wanted to end this ridicilous war. I could go on with the differences if you need me to.

Give Hillary a chance. She is after all the queen of honesty! She invested $1,000 and turned it into $100,000 (chances of that happening according to university study 1 in 250 million). Someone put FBI files of her opponents in her office. Someone fired the travel office and replaced that staff with her friends. Someone, certainly not Hillary, was involved in Whitewater. Oh then there is Charlie Trie and Hsu. She just has the worst luck. Real honest lady though!

Oh, “statesmenship”. That means shut up and support the regime. Not happening. What Petraus said is going on and what soldiers who have been there say is going on are two different things. He was brought on by the Bush administration and will act accordingly.

if you aint first your last!…. we can’t afford to be last. stop tucking your tail and running you panty-wasted libs. grow a pair and fight for what is right. all this PC bull crap will go away once we get hit again.

OK now, why is it that an ABC news blog is all full of right wing rhetoric-ticians. This is a silly mockery of commentary. Go back and really examine the “left-wing media bias”, as presented to you by:
Hannity
O’Reilly
Larry Elder
Rush Limbaugh
Michael Church
Michael Reagan
Neil Cavuto
Brit Hume
Glenn Beck
Tim Russert
Spencer Hughes
Tucker Carlson
Now tell me again, how exactly is is that the media is tilted firmly to the left wing establishment? Pull your heads out of the sand and realize news/editorial is presented to you by these gentlemen above. This IS the media, and they sure as hell aren’t lefties.
As for Rudy, go ahead and follow the same strategy administered by the Neo-Conservative movement, divide and conquer. Don’t really talk about issues, just say Hillary this, Hillary that, Democrats this, Democrats that. Look people, these politicians, including the Clintons, are trying to divide and conquer us. Don’t let them get away with it. Demand a more sensible and reasonable debate. We are ALL Americans, whether we support the GOP or Democrats.

Bill Clinton fooled her about Monica.
G.W. Bush “fooled” her about WMD.
Hsu fooled her into taking his money.
Maybe she doesn’t trust Petraeus because she’s just tired of men making a fool of her.
She doesn’t need a man to make a fool of her. She’s quite good at doing that to herself.

The lefty Dems just can’t wait to surrender and please their Moveon.org, Code Pink and George Soros masters. Between Clinton calling into question General Petraeus’ honesty, Obama wanting to surrender by 12-31-08 and Edwards who doesn’t believe terrorism is real, I can’t imagine the American people will vote in any one of these pathetic people.

Where did Hillary gain all this experience? Being First Lady (and the first to ever be investigated!)? Being married to Bill? She has not introduced any legislation of substance or merit in her time in the Senate, and prior to that her greatest un-accomplishment was the Hindenburg style explosion of Hillary-Care which she spearheaded through as our “co-president” Will it again be “two for the price of one”? I don’t think we can afford the Clinton’s again! That she refused to repudiate that disgusting Move-On ad speaks volumes!

“Suspension of Disbelief”.., Is that like saying for someone to believe that Clinton, Inc. didn’t know money was dirty also requires them to believe she didn’t know Hsu was a crook? Thanks, Rudy for being the ONLY candidate with a pair!

hillary is the biggest lying foney this country has seen besides schumer, kenndy and kerry. may her lying tongue become salt.

I think the comment by Gen. P., about him writing/giving his testimony without notifying higher-ups what the content would be was a play on words. I was suspicious about the visit to Iraq by GW, and now I can understand why. I can only guess, not accuse, when the two met the CiC let it be know what he wanted, and being a good soldier, the Gen. complied.

Good eye Lylepink. You got it. The General is doing his job, which is to paint the same picture the administrations wants us all to believe.

Wow.. it’s unbelievable how many people have their heads dug so deeply in the sand they can practically see China. You can fool yourself all you want but you don’t have to be a Dem or a Rep to know Iraq is a MESS. The prez lied to get us there, continues to kill our kids that are sent there. I almost hope a Hillary isn’t elected prez because the next prez will be spending most of their time just trying to fix the mess Bush has put this country in.
History will not be kind.

Good for you Hillary, and to all you people that voted for bush – please stay home on the next election

If someone from another planet were to travel to Earth with the sole intention of determining which side of the war the left was on, what would their conclusion be??? Did Bin Laden’s last tape sound like Republican talking points or was it damn near word for word with what Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and the rest of the let’s lead America to defeat, because we are evil, bunch?

Both these creeps believe that taking the lives of babies (human life) should be an acceptable practice. They are both without moral compass and unfit for elected office of any kind.

End the Feceral Reserve!!!!!!
The Federal reserve is a PRIVATE bank!!!!
We are bieng enslaved!!!!!!
No Hillary,
No Obama,
No Rudy,
No Fred,
Ron Paul 2008!!!
END BIG GOVERNMENT!!!

“”Despite what I view is your rather extraordinary efforts in your testimony both yesterday and today,” said Clinton, “I think that the reports that you provide to us really require a willing suspension of disbelief.”"
In best cave man impersonation; HUH?!?
Wonder how many times she has used that line on Bill?

Indeed, Mrs. Clinton is in fact correct when she says they need a “willing suspension of disbelief”. Isn’t that what members of these committees are there for in the first place? To hear a report from the field? They were calling General Petraeus a liar before he even spoke. The attitudes of the dems toward him the last two days are to say the least, shameful. They are to say the most, treasonous. They almost make me ashamed to be an American. What a sad day.

This is some funny crap. The Demo’s are saying we can’t trust the Prez or the General BUT we are to trust Hilary and MoveOn.org. Right, they have only our best interests at heart and THEY know what each American needs to succeed. If the Prez makes a mistake lets impeach him, Hilary makes a mistake, well its ok cause she did not know about it thus she is 100% innocent. Bottom line, both parties are full of power hungry politicans. Neither party deserves to hold office. But I stand behind the Repubs because they at least support my son in his fight in the War. Demo’s could care less unless it is a photo op.

I object to ABC News calling Rudy’s COMMENTS an ‘attack’ on Hillary. Gimme a break ……. this witch is running her big mouth tearing down anyone that is trying to resolve the war issues. She is nothing but a Junk Yard Dog of the political kind. Rudy is calling her, not ‘attacking’ her as your report suggests.

THIS IS NOT WHAT AMERICA WAS INTENDED TO BE!!!!
If Hillary gets in, that will be only 2 Families that have had high office in the White House in the past 20-28 years (if you count G. Bush’s Vice Presidency)
WE NEED CHANGE!! Not the OTHER family back in the White house – This is NOT a Monarchy for a reason, because the founding fathers KNEW it was essential to inject new blood into the system to avoid CORRUPTION – Anyone who looks at Rudy OR Hillary knows this is true….
RON PAUL 2008

Isn’t the “willing suspension of DISbelief” the “willingness TO believe”???
Seems to me she got it backasswards…
Go Rudy!

Hillary Clinton should concern herself with having a major scandal envelop her before she even gets her party’s nomination.
How come the Clintons spend their every waking moment either screwing this country or robbing it blind? And why do people continue to support these two disgusting thieves?

When you think about it, including Hillary, NONE of the leading Dem candidates are even close to being qualified to be President of the United States of America.

Matt – “Ruff, ruff ruff. Last I checked Clinton was almost removed from office for having some kinky sex with an employee. If your life were only so good. Oh I get it now, the GOP are so uptight because they never get laid”
You mean the closeted Republicans, or the ones %&%$% young paiges?

Hey Matt -
You are a true Democrat. You just attack your enemies but don’t give any solutions to any problems. Enjoy your childish name calling now. But in january 2009, you will see another Republican being sworn in as the POTUS. However, unlike most Dems, we prefer our wives instead of interns and mistresses like the Kennedy’s and Clinton’s (and the rest of the Dems…)

Why are the media powers that be trying to shove these two down our throats? Kenstee, you are right. They are so much the same. Unfit for office.

Iraq has WMD.
Mission acomplished.
We have a democracy in Iraq now.
Al Qaeda is in their last throws.
We will bring Bin Laden to justice.
Giving millionaires three trillion dollars will save the economy.
No child left behind.
Giving $600 billion in subsidies will be good for medicare.
The Iraq war is a slam dunk.
The Iraq war will cost $200 billion at the most.
Bush will bring integrity back to the White House.
Bush is a uniter, not a divider.
Why tell the truth when lies work so well?

RJ,
Enough said!

By the way – talking about Liberal Media Bias and Republican media bias is ALL rediculous…….
The hidden goals of BOTH parties unite them over the important issues – World Banks, North American Union, RFID chips, World Government, New World Order etc…..
Get over it – Fox is Biased, CBS is biased…..big deal – Use your own critical thinking for once people!!!

One should take notice of Hillary’s background which will show her hate of the military. Lt. Col. Patterson, a non politician who had to be with the Clinton’s with the “nuclear football.” He was escorated by Hillary and Chelsea and was asked not to wear his uniform. Going back further, in college she was anti-war. She is cleaver at double speak. Be wary. THE QUESTION IS: WOULD WE FEEL SAFE WITH THIS WOMAN AT THE HELM?

By the way H, saying CBS is biased in the same way Fox News is biased is a little off kilter. I would say one day of Fox News equals about 10 Daily Show episodes.
CBS is the closest thing to objective news reporting.

Greg8898, When you are in our shoes then you have the right to spit out your media fed BS. Until you join, leave your “war commentary” on the table until you have a first hand view of what we do there.
SPC
40th IBCT

You all need to a reality check!!!! They would all fail lie detector tests. The only thing any of them know how to do is lie and pose for photos with our soldiers. And no one is better at the military photo op than George Bush.
I feel awful for our men and women in uniform, including my cousin, who by the way, went to Iraq because he likes to play video games and thought shooting stuff would be cool. Not kidding about that.
After yesterday’s admission from the General that he wasn’t sure if the war in Iraq is making us safer, who is going to explain that to the people who are actually fighting this war for us? Hey, we’re not sure your mission and risking your lives is actually doing anything for us but good luck and when you get a chance we’d like to have another photo op with you.
By the way, all the blowhards on this blog remember this: While we all sit on our asses playing with our computer today. 168,000 other Americans are risking their lives in 120 degree heat for a mission the General himself admitted yesterday might not be making America safer.
So go ahead with all your anti-Hillary and Anti-Rudy BS, you’re not exactly doing anything constructive except spewing out the talking points of these lying assholes.
Again, it’s time for the revolution.

Peter,
I think you owe us all an apology for voting a liar into office, twice!

When did being anti-war become wrong and killing babies become ok? For all you ‘Christians’ out there….I believe one of your Commandments was supposed to be ‘Thou shalt not kill.’ Remember THAT one?

KL,
I appreciate your commentary. Would be that I had the patience. But I am so sick and tired of playing the moderate, while I see good hard-working people every day having their reputations slaughtered to support this unethical foreign occupation.

I almost wish that we would lose this WAR and that the Islamic Terrorists would get their way.
The U.S. would then look a lot different, indeed.
Woman would be back in the home, cooking, cleaning, and serving men! Homosexuals would be hunted down and delt with not catered to and accomodated as they are curretly! Brian DePalma would be told what movies to make! Oh, what a new country we would have. But this will not happen. The folks of the RIGHT and able patriots like our General Petraeus and our president George Bush and whomever folloes them will not allow it to happen. These good Americans will defend the rights of the Looney Left to THEIR death. So the irony of all ironies; those looney leftists who would lose their heads if the U.S.A. cuts and runs in Iraq are sending the obvious post-Vietnam message again to the world – Americans Do Not Have The Stomach to suffer or sacrifice for anything, by vocally and publicly DEMANDING that we surrender and stop fighting!
Man, just for a moment think about it- LET THEM WIN! They will finally deal with these crazys in our midst! They will deal with the perverted life syles, the drug addicts, and all of the rest of the human debris in our midst.
But alas there are always the UNINTENDED consequences in anything; pity, even a sweet dream has a dark side. So, we must soldier on and fight on and not let them win.
It is indeed a fight to the finish, ours, or theirs. but it shure would be nice if we did not have to fight those Americans of the Looney Left like Hillary et al at the same time!!

Hillary cares about one thing, Hillary. She will say anything to anyone at anytime if it will further her agenda. Sad that this is the best the democrats can come up with.

Sal,
Just check mark the R on the ballot, and everything will be ok. All those pent up fears you have, the ones that wake you up at night, the onces you dont even confess in church, well they might all go away if you keep being a good boy and voting R.

Wasnt it Hilliary who scolded all of us for questioning her patriotism? Her implication that General Petreaus is a liar is clearly how she defines patriotism.

H,
I am not sure Sal can see beyond the paycheck he votes against every couple of years.
And man I am hearing alot about the Amero, is this urban legend or for real people?
This may finally be common ground for “R’s” and “D’s” to stand on…

Let me try the response from the Hillary camp with what they would like to say, before they say what they will say…The truth hurts RUDY, don’t it????
Try telling some yourself and see how you like it.

Remember, it is alleged that moveon.org is financed by George Soros who is a Jew who is so ashamed of being a Jew that he renounced his religion. Why have the Democrats sold their political soul to such a man? I am not a Jew but how can Democrats let themselves be guided by the organization financed by a man who hates Jews and the U. S. military with such passion? In Senator Clinton’s words, to do so “requires the willing suspension of disbelief.”

Why is it that Hillary Clinton who promised 100,000 jobs for upstate New York has turned into a 90,000 jobs lost.Hillary has no legislaition she can pin her hat on, and is a total failure of a senator, but folks want this socialist to be president.
What will Hillary seize when she’s done with big oil profits( its net profits really)? Will she try to raid 401k and other tax free accounts as her husband tried? She has ‘dissed ‘ a four star general, and has no shame.
I and eighty million others will march on DC if she is elected. Some folks need to be reminded she left the ‘ working people’ of Arkansas so fast that there wasn’t time to watch the door hit her in the butt!

Wow, I cannot believe level of ignorance that the comments of many of the users on this website belies. You express outrage that Hillary would dare to question the validity of General Petraeus’s remarks because he is ‘a four star general’ or because she is ‘politicizing the debate’, yet what could be more American or democratic than promoting open discussion of a public issue in a public forum? Whether you agree with the war or not or agree with her politics or not – at least Hillary was being faithful to her duty as a United States Senator by asking thought provoking questions rather than just rolling over in apathy or appeasement to the Bush administration’s status-quo. How ironic it is that those who wave the American flag so fiercely anymore are the very same individuals who despise seeing true democratic principles in action…

Hey Liberals will it take terrorism in our schools for you to finally wake up and take this war seriously ? Hmmm read a little and you might wonder why all of these school bus radios have been stolen ? Maybe because they are planning an attack on our schools ? When what happens to those poor childred in Russia happens here in the USA you might finally realze that OUR GOOD PRESIDENT was not that bad of a guy after all.
Why is it that you dumb Liberals never admit that the reason we have not been attacked in 6 years is due to the war ??? you always talk about how bad the war is but never say how this war has kept the fight off of our soil ? Why is that Liberals ? You only hear what you want to hear. Please get your heads out of your $%$#$ now before we don’t have an AMERICA any longer ! You Libs are just like the French in WWII – just roll over and play dead. You make all of us TRUE AMERICANS SICK !

J,
Just remember the election is on November 10, 2008. And you will be just fine.

Dear ABC News,
If Rudy’s comments can be characterized as an “attack”, then how would you characterize Hillary’s remarks to General Petraeus?

Hilary ‘what ever her name is’.
At a time when soviet air craft are testing our defenses, Putin dismissed his government and Russia announce a very new weapon. This little lady continues to destory my country. I really would not want her to go back to Arkansas as those folks are fairly nice people, maybe the Chicago area. Please no green eggs and ham sam I am. Just go Hilary please go.
Jim – Germantown, Maryland

cassandragop – “496 days until regime change. I hope Hillary doesn’t misuse the powers that Bush has given the US president. ”
The problem isn’t Hillary abusing it – It’s the CIA FBI, local cops, lawyers and lawmakers that will abuse it the most.
RON PAUL 2008

Matt – these guys and gals need to get in a very small room and determine what is best for my country instead of this crap we get each and every day.
Jim

The notion of “General Betray Us” is merely “Bush lied” applied to someone else. The lefts attacks aren’t reasoned because they go after credibility, not face-value facts. Unlike some of the countries who give money to the Democrats, the military isn’t a wing of one specific party and does not play an active role in policy decisions. Hillary is in the wrong, again.

one more for you Matt.
when are you going to recoginze the threat we face? when your favorite starbucks blows up? At some point everyone will figure it out. But it might be too late

Jim (James), Can you elaborate a little more please?

If sleeping with Bill qualifies Hillary to be President, why isn’t Monica running? Oh wait that wasn’t really sex…

What democrat hasn’t been spewing political venom?

Chas,
Imagine this too man, it’s crazy. A congress that wants to investigate the executive branch and serve as a check to their power. How weird is that??? This must be some kind of alien planet we live on.
Just check the “R” on November 14th next year, and you will be fine!

Richard,
This is way too easy, you are just the pot calling the kettle black. Everyone, Richard’s word is gold, don’t dare doubt him.
Richard, you know the drill, just vote R if you can find it!

Steve,
This is a well thought out post. I agree Bush is the decider (albeit an appointed one not an elected one). But Congress has and always will serve as an equal partner (of three branches) in our government. It is their JOB to make sure the administration is not abusing its power, and that includes the military.

Joesph,
You are mean little man. You should leave the room until you have something nice to say.
Just look for that “R” little buddy on November 18th, 2008, and you should sleep just fine.

I found this Blog today and am wondering if most days are like this?

Really look how’s talking about responsibility, kind a interesting no?
Or let me see we’re just suppose to take the General’s word for it because this Administration has a fablious track record for honesty. This is like an episode of Hogan’s hero’s with Commander Klink (Rudy) saying “Vhat!! you question the General’s credibility.” My God at least SOMEONE is questioning the information, isn’t that what Congress is suppose to do?

Since this is the case, by running away from Iraq and thus bringing the war to America, the democrats ARE killing Americans. The DIFFERENCE is that their killing American civilians instead of allowing our military men and women to at least contain the extremists AND get more than a couple licks in themselves.

Kenstee,
Now isn’t that breaking news!!!! ABC you should pick this up!!!!

this general has been in there services for a span of 4 presidencies…do you think he would stake his reputation as a general 100% separate from the exec branch? What you fail to realize is that Bush is an MBA president. He takes advice from the “experts” and runs with it. In the end it responsibility sits on his shoulders and he is the decision maker.

Jereme,
You are a robot, why are you repeating yourself like a broken record? On another note, their is nothing wrong with wearing panties. Many women, and Republican Senators wear them daily!

OK Jim Jones,
I appreciate your enthusiasm…maybe misguided but energetic nonetheless. remember to get out and vote for your favorite Republican on November 11, 2008!

The Democrats decided the surge didn’t work even before it began.
It’s despicable for the Democrats to call the General a lier or to imply he is a lier.
The Democrats aren’t interested in hearing about successes in Iraq under any circumstances.

Hey ABC, when are you going to do some serious reporting on Hillary’s illegal campaign financing scam?
Come to think of it, how about looking into her husband’s teaming up with the communist Chinese government to influence our elections?
I know the answer of course, you support this dispicable and dangerous behavior from these low rent crooks.
The Clintons must laugh them silly over your incompetence.

Osama bin Laden might as well be a spokes person for the democratic party… him and hillary would get along

Matt, you prove my point, while wasting your employers money. A true liberal! One with nothing of substance to write!

>> Even Petraeus admitted he doesn’t think the war’s made us safer.
So, your answer is to cut off your nose to spite your face?
Even if we AREN’T safer now than we were during the decades we bent over and took the extremists attacks with a smile, that doesn’t mean we GIVE them Iraq oil revenue to attack us at home, AGAIN.

Please use more fear, that is what they want us to do. Please, continue to be afraid and check under every rock and every democrat. ~Matt

That’s fine, Matt, but there is nothing beneath a democrat. It’s as low as you can go.

Hey Steve,
I will take Kucinich’s criticism or Moveon’s campaigns any day of the week over the typical Republican or Democrat rhetoric over the war.
When standard news media has transformed into INFO-tainment instead of solid investigative reporting, we lose the important issues surrounding us.
I look up at the hill now and wonder who will look out for you Steve, or me, or any of these lazy bloggers. The truth is none of them will (with the exception of characters like Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich…or maayyybe McCain).
So if we are devoid of information, and nobody is looking out for the common guy, like you and I Steve, then what should we do?
I throw my hat in the ring with Democrats because they are the only party with a semblance of changing this international mess.
It may be weak footing to stand on, but I see no other platforms around us.

LOUD NOISES!!

Richard,
What are you afraid of? Is Al Queda coming to your town? Right now they are using the backstroke to swim to your local mall!
Enjoy living the rest of your life complacent and afraid of shadows. Under a Democrat you will probably find another Democrat…kinky eh?
You wrote:
Matt, you prove my point, while wasting your employers money. A true liberal! One with nothing of substance to write!

“The war is lost! Too many Americans have died for nothing! We’ll never win!”
Who said this?
a) Democratic Presidential Candidate George B. McClellan in 1864.
b)Democratic Presidential Candidate Hilliary R. Clinton in 2007.
c) All the above.

Matt, you mentioned Ken Lay, do you have the amounts contributed to each party by him, and do you know of the years that took place, and who was President at the time?

KL,
Sheesh I feel like a saint now! Haha. I spend way too much time trying to balance the crappy politicians on both sides. KL, start a revolution by running for office! Take that rage and focus it into something positive. Don’t be afraid to speak your mind, get out there and run!!!! I know you can do it.

Based on Rudy’s belief that the General must be telling the truth because he’s a General, he must also still believe Colin Powell was telling the truth when he helped lead us into this disaster in Iraq!

Matt,
what exactly are the Democrats proposing? All I see is opposing! We are in Iraq. Al Qaeda is dedicated to fighting us there. It is what it is, and all level headed politicians shouldn’t minimize that the Middle East and the strategy in Iraq is very complicated.

All you brilliant Republicans who are so pro surge, let me just remind you that the surge is only working in one place, al-anbar province, and it is only working because our government is now teaming up with the sunnis, who by the way, ARE TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY AGAINST THE VERY GOVERNMENT AND CONSTITUTION our soldiers have DIED for over there!!!! Politically, the Iraqi (mainly shia) government is in shambles, which is exactly what the sunni’s want, so how exactly is this situation any better than it was one year ago???? Please, explain. The General couldn’t provide any answers that question, so please, with your infinite conservative wisdom, explain your plan to end the war? I don’t want to hear just give it more time either. That isn’t a plan, it’s a request.

HILARY CLINTON=STEAMING PILE OF EXCREMENT

Talk about stupidity: Hillary thinks she knows more about Iraq than the General… Why not? She visited there once or twice, Petraeus only lives and fights there.

The dems are going to bed each nite praying ofr defeat so they can get in power on the lives of our greatest asset. Our Military!

Matt you said…
“It is a scary thought that a Democrat might get as much radio time as a Republican. It makes me shiver”
actually nobody will listen…its a fact!
Matt…you need a lesson on radio… its a free market (just like oil but i wont start), if you do good you will survive. If you fail to get an audience / advertising dollars you will fail. free markets FTW!!!

Mrs. Bill Clinton needs to continue to ask the hard questions in an effort to help annihilate our enemy. Our troops will come home at that time to a Hero’s Welcome unlike that every seen.

Get used to it, Hillary will win and be YOUR next president…to bad for you uptight immobilized republicans!

What makes me feel safe is that no blogs get the kind of negative reaction that Hillary gets! I hope she gets the nomination so that we can watch her go down in flames like the hippocrit Al Gore did! It will be very soothing to America. It is like having gas and getting rid of it!

geez: amazing how all these unpleasant war lovers try to outdo themselves in nastiness about Hilary… this is civil society in the US these days?… wow! the public thinks the war is a mess but all the nasties here think they’re the ones who are right and are just so ugly about it…

To suggest that we should GO BACKWARDS (retreat) because we aren’t moving forward is STUPID. What kind of an argument is that? Even holding ground is better than providing the extremists with proof that their strategy is a winnable strategy (which they have said is how they will interpret a US retreat from Iraq to mean).
And that’s not taking the fact that we HAVE MOVED FORWARD into account.
The dems are so quick to say the the war is Bush’s war because he keeps changing the reason we are there in the first place. How about the way the dems keep chaning the reason for retreat. Fist it was too violent. Now we should retreat because the politics haven’t progressed as fast as we would like.
HIPOCRITES.

hillary has no idea how to keep USA safe . she would give it to china just like billy did. thank god Hillary is unelectable

This is a man that every one who has ever served under him and knows him personally calls a man of honor and integrity. Does anyone who knows Mrs. Clinton call her a woman of honor and integrity?
The only thing Mrs. Clinton ever accomplished is to have sex with that man. This qualifies her as U.S. Senator and possibly president?

The Federal Reserve is PRIVATE – That’s the problem!!!!!

She better watch what she says. If she becomes commander in chief, she may actually NEED the help of the military some day. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t. I wouldn’t help that traitorous pig in a pants suit,

We are going to win and there’s nothing you can do about it!
We have a plan; blame the war on Bushies and raise taxes to pay off the debt you gave us…..let the Mexicans in, outsource everything, and that’s the way it’ll be….too bad Republicans

Hillary Clinton is the biggest wind bag in the history of Politics. Oh! I forgot about Bill!! The Clinton’s make me sick. Pure BS in the flesh.

Clinton is a liar and deciever. How can we ever consider having them back as our President when they always seem to want to tear this Country apart. It was through Bill’s agressive effort to deplete the number of government people that he drained it bad enough that lead to 911 and then he runs away saying that this or that agency was to blame. He himself was at the core of the problems and he snaked away. Now we have Mrs Clinton……to do what? Further divide our Country. Or should I say……finish dividing our Country? Create more tragedy and then go snaking off like they did before. Give me a break.

The simple fact of the matter is that Democrats tend lately to shy away from what must be done with regard to Nat’l security and the Repubs do not. There is no way of spinning that one mates. Better to do the hard work now and clean out the cesspool of radical jihadists than to shrink from the duty and find ourselves facing them again and again, with the advantage being theirs. He who stays on offense sets the tempo of the match; you cannot win the game by playing defense and hoping to hell that the other bloke doesn’t score a ringer. Wishing away the problem doesn’t do a bloody thing toward the solution.
Clinton is a false adverstisement, otherwise she would pick a position and stick to it no matter what the grass roots has to say. GWB, for all of his faults, has chosen his path and hasn’t strayed from it. This drives liberals to their wits end, perhaps because a principled stance is a foreign concept to most of them. Being a LEADER is inherently unpopular business. Iraq is as much as “mess” as North Africa was in ’42, or for that matter Bataan. If you’re scope of vision is limited to the domestic election cycle then you will never achieve greatness, much less survive the hardship of wartime.

Wasn’t Rudy the same genius who put a $13 million anti-terrorism command center on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center after the ’93 attacks? Forget the fact that he’s pretty liberal on everything. Or that he enjoys dressing like a woman. Or that he married his cousin. This war has to end. You can’t declare war on an ideology, folks. Who would have thought that the rest of the world would hate us more after 9/11? Stop comparing Bin Laden to the Dems and realize that the reason he’s still alive and making tapes is because our President decided to stop trying to find him and decided to declare a BS war on a sovereign country that posed no threat.

She doesnt know anything about a criminal that gave her almost 1million dollars, but she knows more than the General in charge about Iraq?
How stupid do you have to be to be a Hillary supporter?

Iraq did not cause 911. Everyone admits that now. So how exactly does fighting there make America safer? Petraus was asked this, and even HE DIDN”T HAVE AN ANSWER!!!!! We can’t just go around “liberating” every country with a dictator. We don’t have the resources. Meanwhile, 40+ million americans don’t have any health insurance. Even a small chunk of what is being spent in Iraq could have covered every American for health insurance. I am sick of my tax dollars going there for HALIBURTON and CHENEY LINING HIS POCKETS!!!

Yet again, Hillary shows her sophisticated style.

Steve-
What difference would winning this war mean if Bin Laden is still alive? Would it make him any less popular? Would it take away any of his money? No. If we’d had a troop surge in Afghanistan we’d probably have found him by now. What kind of ally is Musharraf and Pakistan? Even the most radical of Islamists would understand why the US was after OBL.

Craven, put on your black feathers and fly around at night. No one decided to stop trying to find Bin Laden. Fly over there your self at night and tell us where he is!

Hilliary is right on target
Petraeus was merely stating
what George W. Bush told him
to say.And we know what a
liar Bush is.

west: What does any of this have to do with “liberals”??? CHENEY IS LINING HIS POCKETS WITH HALIBURTON NO BID CONTRACTS IN IRAQ. Why are you so against those that find this corruption so wrong? Why do you blame Hillary when Bush is the one that suckered everyone into believing that Iraq had something to do with 911? Why can’t he admit that this war is wrong? and WHY DID HE DROP THE BALL IN AFGANISTAN????????????

Richard-
I would expect no more ignorant a response from someone who was dumb enough to vote for GWB twice.
I’ll put on my black feathers when you take off your goggles and see that we’re more hated now than we were before the war.

H,why do you make such a ridiculous posting?

Bring it on Rudy!!

My poll of these comments and their numbers gives Rudy 78% and Hillary 22% with an error of +/- 10% to account for the uninformed.

Craven, I never stated that I voted for GWB twice, a bit presumptive on your part, I do not wear goggles either, but they are presumed to improve vision, you might try them. I do not mind being hated as long as I survive, I suppose you prefer the alternative

Clinton speaks out of both sides of her mouth. She is critical of George Bush but she needs to ask herself what is the difference between Iraq and Yugoslavia. Her husband with her blessing invaded, Yugoslavia, a sovereign nation only to cover up a blow job. Clinton lied just like George, Clinton killed innocent people just like George, Clinton invaded a sovereign nation for regime change just like George and since the American public has a selective memory and a narrow view of right and wrong she is allow to get away with her attacks against George Bush. Republicans need to expose this double standard that she uses when it suits her.

Contrary to the claims of her staff, Hillary didn’t ask any “hard questions” to General Petraeus. After insinuating that he’s not believable, she asked him a couple of inane questions which he brushed aside like gnats. One involved a “contradiction” in his earlier testimony that no reasonable person would regard as the least bit inconsistent. That’s why no more has been heard about it despite the formidable resources of the Clinton attack team.

Iraq did not cause 911. Everyone admits that now. So how exactly does fighting there make America safer? Petraus was asked this, and even HE DIDN”T HAVE AN ANSWER!!!!! We can’t just go around “liberating” every country with a dictator. We don’t have the resources. Meanwhile, 40+ million americans don’t have any health insurance. Even a small chunk of what is being spent in Iraq could have covered every American for health insurance. I am sick of my tax dollars going there for HALIBURTON and CHENEY LINING HIS POCKETS!!!
Posted by: moderateistheway | Sep 12, 2007 6:19:30 PM
Whatever!!!
Take your pick Mr. Moderate…either we fight them there or we fight them here, take your pick. If you honestly believe that Americans will quit dying at the hands of Al Queda if we pull out of Iraq you are as stupid as you sound.
It will be neat to see what the Islamic terrorists do with their new found source of oil wealth when the Americans pull out of Iraq…

So…..Hillary isn’t “attacking” the General, but Rudy is “attacking” Hillary? Wow, ABCNews. The Democrats will certainly give you a good ol’s tummy rub for that along with all of the other treacherous anti-American, pro-AlQueda, and biased reporting you are so famous for. Now, sit up and beg…shake hands….roll over. Good boy!!

We have little to worry about from Guliani. His hot head will get the better of him sometime before the general election. I only hope that it is after the nomination so the voters of our great nation can contrast Hillary’s presidential demeanor with Rudy ranting out of control.

And let’s see…where was wormy Rudy when it came time to serve his country in Vietnam. Oh … dodging the draft! Which New York mayor built the city emergency command center AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, a known target? Oh … Rudy! Who told his his second wife he was divorcing her ON TELEVISION? Oh, Rudy! Whose kids can’t stand him? Rudy! …
Who’s that dressed in drag … Oh, never mind.

“Hard questions” will get our troops home? Why don’t the Dems just cut off funding if they want the troops home? And by the way, home to do what? We are in a war! We should all be thanking President Bush that the front is over there and not over here. We should also be thanking God that Gore lost in 2000! (Of course, this is the cause of the Dems irrational hatred of Bush). Hillary Clinton is heading for a meltdown next year that will shock the nation and the world. She will not be able to keep a lid on all her lies. Her true motivation and ambitions will be revealed for all to see.

Well, Hill, you have shown us what a culture of corruption really looks like!
Culture – meaning an entire party.
Thanks for opening my eyes!!!

Anybody who can turn a phrase like “willing suspension of disbelief.”
is working to hard on sound bites.

Tom, which Richard are you posting to

TOO BAD Rudy still supports illegal alien AMNESTY.

Damn straight she has a right to make accusations like that. When billions of dollars have come up missing, nothing is improving, and our people are still being sent over there to fight a war that basically is worthless at this point. I appreciate someone who has the guts to bark!

Can you imagine this woman as commander in chief?! As a former naval aviator, it makes my skin crawl.

The democrats have devolved into anti – American, Marxist, defeatist, bed wetting, freak show of pieces of human excrement. Nothing they do or say to help defeat America is a surprise. What IS a surprise is how many stupid people in this country buy into their worthless, pathetic , loser mantra. I guess America will have to progress IN SPITE of democrats—not because of them. GOD help us.

Democrats aren’t killing Americans?
You’re kidding, right? Much of the political and military struggle that we are still facing right now is centered on the fact that Congress repeatedly attempted to undermine the President’s authority as Commander-in-Chief. These actions had two direct consquences in Iraq. First, the Al-Queda and Iranian operatives were emboldened to tough it out..knowing that the stinkin Americans would leave soon. Second, the Iraqi people and the Iraqi representatives conducted themselves in a way to ensure their safety once the Americans left, meaning they catered to the local militias and they failed to take on these militias in the political arena. It is only recently, that the Iraqi people have begun to believe that we will remain their until their country is safe and not coincidently, it is only recently that the Iraqi people have started ratting out on the militias and the Iraqi elected officials have begun serious and meaningful debate about the future of their country.

Hillary’s staff can’t tell the difference between “hard questions” and cowardly insinuations. Neither can the press.

The Democrats’ 2006 Congress is suffering from “Political Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.” 2008 will mark the fortieth anniversary of the 1968 Chicago Democratric Convention, a week noted by internationally televised protests and rioting by the radical left base over LBJ’s inability to end the Viet Nam War. The mainstream anti-war news media characterized the civil unrest as a “police riot” as demonstrators were beaten and arrested by the Chicago Police. The image of the Democratic Party imploded amidst the demostrators shouting “the whole world’s watching” and the Democrat Presidential nominee, Hubert H. Humphrey lost to Richard M. Nixon by a narrow margin in 1968. With the war continuing to gain in unpopularity, Nixon easily trounced Democratic Nominee George McGovern in one of the largest landslides in American history in 1972. Now, frustrated and made to look repeatedly impotent by the Bush White House over the Iraq War, the leaders of today’s Democratic Party, are working overtime to appease the second and third generation anti-war leftists in an effort to avoid a repeat of the 1968 debacle. Devoid of any significant legislative power to back them, the recent visits by Pelosi and Kucinich to a verifed sponsor of terrorism like Syria, were desperate photo-ops aimed their MoveOn.org radical base. The 40th Anniversary of the 1968 Democratic Debacle begins next year….and the whole world’s watching.

“Giuliani: Clinton Spewing ‘Political Venom’ on Iraq”
ABC really needs to do a better job of hiding its bias. The title alone puts words in Rudy’s mouth that he never said. Maybe ABC included “spewing” because all the left wing nut jobs love to use that word and are too stupid for critical thinking so it makes it easier on them to understand how to respond.

Hillary knows what’s she’s talking about. She’s had to suspend unbelief enough. Like when she couldn’t understand how the missing Watergate papers just appeared on the table. Like when she said Bill was just ” ministering ” to a young intern : Monica Lewinski. Like when she had a windfall profit from a crooked commodity deal. Oh my, Hillary: we must really suspend unbelief to think you are looking out for us!

regardless of what your political views are .. . one thing is for certain: Rudy is a sexist pig.
“political venom”?? How many times is this said of a male political figure? Seldom, if at all.
Here’s a perspective: Venom, an allegory for snake, Snake associated with the first snake (Adam and Eve)…The snake is always a woman is Rudy’s version. Swine!!!

Belief
Hilary and the MoveOn crowd have just that a “belief” and their belief is that anything that the US tries to do in Iraq will fail. Hilary’s “belief” about Iraq is really her “disbelief” in any good thing happening over there. These liberals don’t want or give a damn about what’s actually going on because they don’t care, they just want to undermine our troops with their constant barrage of negativity against the White House.
Shame on you Hilary. I’m not a Rudy supporter, but I’m glad he spoke out.

Why are people so obssessed with Hillary? Worry about the guy destroying the counrty RIGHT NOW. We can worry about her when the time comes. In the meantime ask yourself the famous Ronald Reagan question: Are you better off now than you were four years ago? With 70% of the American people, Republicans and Democrats alike, saying the counrty is on the wrong track, we shhould be worrying about George Bush. He can do alot of damage in 500 days. Like launching an attack on Iran.

I just dont get most of you people….
They all approved of this man to do his job and tell the truth…. NOW, all of a sudden, since he sees positive things in Iraq, the man is lying!!!
My god people, wake up and use your own minds rather than letting the hard left fill you with BS…
1. I love this country!
2. I want us to win!
3. I believe we can win!
4. If we cant win, then a bunch of thugs have just beat the best men and woman, the best equipped, the best fed, and most professional volunteer fighting force in the world…
Folks, please wake up and realize this is not something we should play politics with. If we walk out of there, there will be far more lives lost than you could ever imagine. So many people talk about how all these people are dying, American and Iraqi….well, go ahead and bring the troops back. I bet none of you will care what happens to them and you have no clue what you are talking about. You are all hypocrites!!!!!

I can’t believe those who post criticizing HRC qualifications to be President. Don’t you recognize the qualification of your current President?
He’s lowered the bar quite dramitcally. HRC’s qualifications would actually be quite an improvement.

Hillary wants this all behind her if she gets elected in 2008. But we’re in a war that will last decades, in varying intensities. That she’s trying hard to ignore that doesn’t speak well for her grasp of reality. She might not be interested in war, but does she really believe we can unilaterally walk away from the ME?

Hillary and the people who endorse her are fools. She is a waste of skin. Rudy is 100% correct. I have 2 sons in the military and they have been there. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about and the idiot left who are posting don’t know what they are talking about. Learn how the military works before you make inane comment. Libs are clueless when it comes to real world.

Hillary and the Dems are pandering, servile dogs. They are the nadir, the absolute worst of the massively selfish, arrogant baby-boomer generation. The sooner they die off, the better off the US will be.

THE DEMOCRATS WILL NOT DEFEND GENERAL PETRAEUS AGAINST A LEFT WING TERRORISTS LOVING MOVE ON .ORG. WHEN ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GOING TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.

Hillary Clinton is a junior senator who has never run anything bigger than her mouth (not that that is a small thing). When her husband gave her some responsibility in his first term, she made a hash of it. Now she tries to besmirch the reputation of a commander of American forces in wartime.
Now that I think about it, I’ve never heard anyone, friend or foe, refer to Hillary as a class act.

Wow.. it’s unbelievable how many people have their heads dug so deeply in the sand they can practically see China. You can fool yourself all you want but you don’t have to be a Dem or a Rep to know Iraq is a MESS. The prez lied to get us there, continues to kill our kids that are sent there. I almost hope a Hillary isn’t elected prez because the next prez will be spending most of their time just trying to fix the mess Bush has put this country in.
History will not be kind.
Posted by: Mike | Sep 12, 2007 4:30:45 PM
Mike, are you that lost? Have you been to Iraq and defended your Country? I have twice and I am insulted by your comments!! Bush lied to get us there? Where is the proof? Every Congressman and Senator had the same report and voted for it. How about you not speak unless you can say that you have been there!!

It is common sense when you put more police officers in the street the crime will reduce. Similarly,with the surge in Iraq there is less violence. What will happened when the surge is withdraw? Well we know what will happened the violence will increased, and we can continue sending more troops and repeat this back and forth,this will not solve the problem because this seems like the US soldiers have to remain in Iraq permanently.Why don’t we stop playing the blame game and come to a bipartisan resolution to bring the troops home.When will the politicians get it that the American people are tired of their rhetorics. We need a new innovative government who is willing to change the system in Washington from republicans and democrats ways of thinking.

H, stop your spamming and your nonsense. You’re too much of a buffoon for anyone to care about “censoring” you.

for the life of me,why would anyone like this woman to be our commander and chief of the armed forces.God help us if she ever is……

Todays oxymoron: intelligent liberal

By the way, I don’t like moveon.org. or George Bush. I don’t see the world in black and white, left or right. The world is grey. Stop the name-calling. I’m sure we can all work together somehow. We’re all Americans. Start acting like it.

BOTH of these candidates are operating with a defective moral compass. Neither is an appropriate choice to lead this nation. Abortion is the taking of a human life and there is no way around this. BOTH these candidates feel this is acceptable. A human life begins at conception and this is indisputable from a scientific point of view. Their common position is morally indefensible.

bushsupporter,
Please suspend my disbelief…did you think that “w” was the smartest man in the world?

That this slimeball and her fellow political slugs would dare to question this honorable man is enough to gag a a maggot. Maybe if he were a chicom general she’d be more sympathetic…

Well said Brian. I’m a mdoerate Independent and don’t love the Clintons’ either. But I spent 8 years with Rudy as my mayor. He’s childish, hates people who disagree with him and is despised by his entire family. A walking soap opera who has made millions of dollars exploiting 9/11. Not exactly what the country needs right now.

Senator Clinton knows more about lying than most of us do. So she should recognize it at first sight but then she is married to an expert and after all of these years, must think we all lie. She knows nothing else in her personal life and recently her troubles with a convicted criminal who donated to her campaign proves again..what kind of character she has.

Senator Clinton has no right to speak regarding the military. I remember when her husband was in office, she and her staff had little regard for our Military Members and treated them poorly to say the least. All of a sudden she now cares about our troops????? Well wake up folks and remember what went on six years ago, she was one of the first to vote yes in tracking these people down and now when thing are getting messy she want to pull the plug. Well Senator Clinton let me remind you “We are in a WAR” regardless if you like it or not!!! WAR does not mean we are going to sit around and sing camp fire songs with one another. Unfortunately good americas are going to get hurt, this is the nature of the business. The politicizing and media fenzy of this WAR is wrong and we should be ashamed of ourselves to take the cowards way out.
People wake up and really see what is going on in the world.

Sign up and show us some real patriotism. My cousin Jon did and he lost his life for it. But at least he died fighting for this country. What have you been doing for the last six years?

Well, well, well…
I guess we have a bunch of proud Giulani supporters here!
I’m a proud Hillary Clinton supporter.
You can blather on and on and on and on and on and on, spreading your lies and spreading your venom.
But how come your guy can’t beat my gal at the polls these days?

I for one can honestly say I don’t have a clue what really is going on, do you all really? Honestly. Politically I am Void for the facts are near impossible to know.

Have to agree with several posters, ABC managed to spin this article so as to try to smear America’s mayor and next President, Rudy. Sure they’ll be doing much more as they’re going to be covering for the high-liability Clinton’s in the upcoming election- Hillary’s a hack, so the spin is going to be entertaining!

be real! she is so socialist along with all the democrats time for a real change.

Bill: Conservative idiots are the ones ruining this country, not the liberals who 1. want equality for all people regardless of age, sex, sexual orientation, etc. 2. We will fight terror-but want to where it exists ie. Afganistan, NOT IRAQ!!

Richard: if you think the answer is that people don’t want health insurance and to “just go to an emergency room”. Oh yeah? So the emergency rooms can get clogged, people are left w/thousands in bills, and that is no answer for PREVENTITIVE CARE!!!

also, can you really expect a democrat to tell the truth!

Moderateistheway
You are blind my friend, terrorism is everywhere. Step back and look around the world and what is happening. Terrorist extremists are all around us and threaten everyone. Look what happened in England and this past week in Germany.

Mrs. H. Clinton is a KNOWN LIAR!! How many times did she Say “I do not recall”(whitewater transcripts); or I was named after Sir Hillary? She is hateful & very dangerous. My Father taught me to respect women that deserved to be respected!

excuse me, moderate, but Halliburton is a publicly held company and their financials…including their sources of revenue are easily accessible via the internet.
How about you provide us some proof that Halliburton has received any benefit at all as a result of the occupation in Iraq? Until you do, you have no credibility.

It is sad, but anymore it’d just about ‘the winning’. We need unity and neither of these politicians is promoting it. We need a leader not a voter prostitute. The war is changing but no one will admit they may have made too early of a decision on what is happening in Iraq. Doesn’t matter what it may cost us in the long run. ‘The Vote’ is the only thing that matters! Wake up America!

I AM IN AND I AM IN FOR HIM TO WIN!
I have been against Rudy, as a social conservative, but the more I hear him speak, the more I like him. I think I am changing my mind about not voting for him. I think I can vote for him, for sure. I think we need Giuliani/Thompson in 2008 or visa versa. Hillary, on the other hand, I can never vote for. I am a single, professional woman, and I cannot see myself voting for this woman, who has less experience than Obama. The junior senator is not only distatestful, lacks charisma but, as a woman, I can see that she is not very smart.

Mrs. H. Clinton is a KNOWN LIAR!! How many times did she Say “I do not recall”(whitewater transcripts); or I was named after Sir Hillary? She is hateful & very dangerous. My Father taught me to respect women that deserved to be respected!

Nobody has suppressed you. Ive heard you guys (far left Democrats) almost nightly since Nov 2000. You whine about everything and it gets covered by CBS, NBC, ABC, the New York Times, etc every time.

Hillary, for personal political gain, has publicly besmirched the name of one of our finest leaders.
I know that, from our outfit, and probably most other military outfits, she will never get a vote now.
Who is she, or Bill, to ever talk with any authority about truth?

If Clinton and the other democrats aren’t able to get the troops out of Iraq prior to the election they will not be able to declare the war a failure and will in fact become the failure. This war will be won!

R.J.
I am sorry about your cousin, he made the ultimate sacrafice and is a true hero in my book. But when you signup for the Military Service and signing that dotted line, you are aware that there is a chance that you may need to put your life on the line!!! This is the nature of our business!!!
PS: I am a proud Veteran

Hillary is right, Pertraeus isn’t telling the truth. But who wants to say “Ya we’re getting our asses handed to us because you won’t give us enough support,congress.” and keep their job?
I don’t support a candidate that doesn’t support the war, and neither should america. The #1 reason we are still there is because the politicians have screwed it up from square one, and #2 because we can’t really on a General to say screw congress I’m getting the job done like Stormin Norman, desert storm, its a different situation.
2 houses, 1 america in the middle getting ignored.

Nice job trying to pigeon-hole me, moderate. I haven’t stepped foot in a church in 15 years. I’m an economic conservative and a social moderate.
But I don’t tolerate misinformation and disingenuous statements. I’m on this thread because I cannot conceive that someone like Hillary Clinton would have the unmitigated gall to call a decorated 4 star general, who was unaminously confirmed, a liar. How can anyone possibly support a person that would do that?

It’s one thing to disagree with the war. Everyone has the right to dissent and there’s good reason for many to be upset.
It’s a whole other kettle of fish to use slanderous and disingenuous language to try to squelch or discredit the other side. Our politicians should care more about the country and each other to do that.

dear moderate and timothe,
don’t mean to interfere.
halliburton like any other business that get these contracts often get a really tight deal. these businesses usually make a load off these wars. i have seen it as a veteran.
halliburton ,however, miscalculated this one. they are losing money on every contract in iraq and want out.
it’s in their prospectus, don’t take michael moore’s facts, look up your own.
moore used to be a funny guy till he became a propagandist. and wearing that working man’s outfit and faking it. he’s a rich man’s son from davison, MI who has an inheritance. he never set foot in working class flint.

And Bush took many resources away from Afganistan, where the taliban were, not Iraq!

In talking to a few muslim men at work…they think that a woman president in the US will not have much credibility in their country. I had forgotten how the moderate countries in the middle east use to be moderate, but that is changing rapidly. Will she send Bill in her place?

Bottomline folks!!!! If Americans cant support their own military like they do their football teams, then what chance do they have of winning??????
Our military is just like a football team… If they have no support, they will lose.
If people constantly tell them they will lose even though they dont think so, then eventually they will lose…. That just puts a bad seed in there heads.
If we treated our children like the LIbs treat our military, we would be thrown in jail for child abuse!
Overall, we need to tell them they will win, give them everything they need to win, and let them do their jobs!!!! If it was my job, and yes I did try, then the last thing I would ever want to hear is people saying I am too much of a puss to finish the job because I am such a wimp!!!
Folks…….lets hear it for the good old USA!!!
Here we go, US! Here we go, US!!!!
Hey, I am a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and even more so of our fantastic men and woman in uniform… These people are wonderful and professional individuals whom are standing up for our country. Lets stand up for them!!!!!!!

Well moderate, I appreciate you lowering your tone. But you are doing just as much a disservice by repeating the innuendo instead of simply stating your thoughts rationally.
I believe that 95 to 98% of Americans want the troops home and the war over. But now is not the time.
If we could have some unity, then the time they come home could be much sooner. Sadly, there are too many of our public servants that are simply adding fuel to the fire. Some, like Hillary, for their own gain. It’s very sad.

Rudy wants the U.S. to stay in Iraq forever. Anybody who supports him is a total dope.

Believing anything that Hillary says requires a willing suspension of belief. Hillary as President might make Richard Nixon look like Jesus Christ

All of us really cool progressives who post here know that Bush Lies and People Dies.
The only reason that Bush’s illegal war for oil is able to continue is by the jingoistic flag waving of the corporate controlled media. The really cool progressives use the Internet to question authority and have intellectual discussion of topics that the corporate controlled media won’t cover.
I am somewhat of an expert on 9/11. I know from looking at some really cool progressive Web sites that it wasn’t the propaganda that the corporate controlled media would have you believe of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes.

You people talking about “war for oil” are actually beginning to irritate me…
Reality question… What is the current price for oil????
If we were there for oil, why is the price so high considering Iraq is one of the largest in oil????

Bush and Cheney’s illegal war for oil in Iraq continues only because of the jingoistic flag-waving of the corporate controlled media like the Washington Post or the Baltimore Sun.
Bush and Cheney Lies and People Dies.
The neocons based their illegal war for oil in Iraq in part on the official propaganda of 9/11. The really cool progressives do not accept the corporate controlled media propaganda of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes. There are many really cool progressive Web sites that show it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11.
The Internet has allowed the 9-11 Truth Movement to gain a foothold on the Internet. The really cool progressives are now using the Internet to put forth our stories about what really happened that day.

OMG…… I cant believe it, but someone here believes we blew up our own towers…..
My old mgr watch a plane fly into one of those towers while he was at a meeting in New York…..
Also, as I hear, Popular Mechanics debunked every possibility you folks have put out there…
yer all NUTS, and need to be on drugs!!!!

Lets see: Bill Clinton dismantled our military so that now we had a “engineered” boom time… and now we are paying the price for that HUGE MISTAKE .
I have a problem with her because she called a four star general a “liar” in no uncertain terms with her euphanism while we are at war. She was saying this even before hearing his testimony.
God forbid.. if Hillary gets into office and there is another attack… I’m sure she will blame it on the Republicans.. even though they are asking our troops to fight a “politically correct” war. The democrats.. notably.. KUCINICH and HILLARY and EDWARDS disgust me. I will do everything I can to make sure they dont get elected. She takes tainted money from Norman Shu… (most likely funded by CHINA)… Im sure that was payback for BILL allowing CHINA most favored trading status… I SAY.. OUT WITH BUSH AND OUT WITH CLINTONS.. we need new blood (personally.. I would like to wipe the ENTIRE slate clean and completely start over)… in my humble opinion.. they are all in the pocket of foreign governments.

Incredible. I am a war vet and I appreciate someone telling me thanks

timtan, God Bless you.

Let them swipe at each other. Both are not electable.

Oh, and joelschlegel – that ‘dismantled military’ you talk about dismantled the hell out of Saddam’s army when the United States won the war in Iraq. It’s the peace George W. Bush has messed up.

The intel I distrust the most, GJT, is anything disseminated by the Bush Administration. Bush and the Republican Party cannot be trusted to push around a hot dog cart much less run the nation.

How else could you explain NAFTA, giving CHINA unfettered access to our markets with POISONED EVERYTHING, striking trade agreements with South Korea that mostly favor South Korea…and OH YES… keeping our borders WIDE OPEN and allowing countless (millions and millions) ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS in.. (in any other country.. you would be SHOT immediately if you came over the border illegally… just go to EUROPE and see how they do border enforcement.. they mean business)
And yes.. I SAID “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”… NOT.. undocumented workers, undocumented immigrants….. what part of the word ILLEGAL don’t people understand? Either we are a country of laws or we AREN’T… you can’t cherry pick the laws you want to enforce. Instead.. they try to cloud the issue by using euphanisms like “comprehensive immigration reform”.. AKA… A M N E S T Y……..
WE, AS A NATION, need to start taking care of our OWN FIRST… look out for the USA LEGAL CITIZENS first… educate our own kids…employ our own people… eat FOOD GROWN IN THE USA.. and stop trying to be GLOBAL COP.. Let some other country foot some of the bills for being global cop. No other country (except maybe UK and Japan) appreciate it anyway.

Hillary is a Corrupt Unethical Nasty Traitor and that could be summed up as a one word acronym.

I really didn’t want to believe Rush Limbaugh last week when he told us this was going to happen….now these idiots have really complicated the choices…..I am only sure of one thing…I will vote against her. Not sure who I will vote for….

I can’t believe I’m even reading this Hillary trash other than to say”it’s sad that a Senator who is supposed to be statesman like is going to the lowest common denominator in trashing a committed general”
sad, sad,sad.

HEY ROCKY!!!!
One for you! I saw your last post, and I want to thank you for your service to this country! I was unable due to a health condition (very much upset me) but I so appreciate your service as well as all others in the military…
Thank you, and god bless you for having the balls to serve your country and be a real man! I do truly hope you suffered no real injuries. if you did, I will do my best to help make them worthwhile. Obviously we have several people out there who have no balls and should probably move to France…
Goodnight, Sir!!!! (and all those not requiring medication)
Posted by: timtan | Sep 12, 2007 10:28:16 PM
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My son wanted to join too, but same as you had physical problems that wouldn’t let him. Thank you man. My family thanks you too.

Kramer: good one… still rolling on floor laughing…. To think anyone can even think of getting those 2 back in the White House is beyond me… We need to take this country back from
a) self serving corporate interests
b) self serving fringe groups (both liberal and conservative)
c) self serving corrupt hypocritical politicians (both democrat and republican)
hmmm… whats the operative word here.. “self serving”… Can you tell I have had it with them all?
WE THE PEOPLE must get back to the fundamental principles that made this country great.

Rocky,
I am sorry to hear that…. I have to say, mine came along with age, and my age got close to 40, so they didnt like that idea.. I wont go into the health issue aside from saying it was a metabolic problem…
Either way, there are other ways of supporting this great nation….and I hope I am doing something…
God bless you and your family! (I really have to get off here….work comes too early…LOL)
Nitey!

The Op-Ed by seven active duty U.S. soldiers in Iraq questioning the war drew international attention just three weeks ago. Now two of the seven are dead.

timtan,
I understand man. My son is really a Die Hard American. He loves the Discipline the Military has. Thank you again, you make me proud to do my job.

George Bush is Baghdad Bob is the biggest liar in America and perhaps the Globe. Clinton ruined a dress, George Bush has ruined America.

BRING OUR TROOPS HOME TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS, AIRPORTS, PORTS, OF ENTRY AND STOP ALL UNRECOGNIZED ENTRY TO OUR NATION.

George Bush is Baghdad Bob is the biggest liar in America and perhaps the Globe. Clinton ruined a dress, George Bush has ruined America.
Posted by: Bill Adkins | Sep 12, 2007 10:43:30 PM
What has he lied about Bill? I will not address your other comment. It is insane.

Larry Sweat: Why can’t you answer the questions we’ve put up here? The only thing you can attack us for is the fact that Hillary called the general a liar. HILLARY IS WONDERFUL.
Posted by: moderateistheway | Sep 12, 2007 10:47:09 PM
Leave if you don’t like the United States of America.

Face it Cons, the jig’s up. LOL

Rocky, I’ve read your juvenile comments and I give them little credence. George W. Bush has lied about everything surrounding his Iraq Blunder. He mislead congress, he lied to America, his Administration outed a CIA agent in an effort to discredit her husband, Bush has gotten almost 4000 Americans killed for nothing, spent almost a trillion dollars and America has received no benefit for it and now he’s sent Betray-us to lie for him. I like this comment from a letter writer to another periodical: ” thought one observation of the less than dynamic duo, Crocker and Petraeus, was right on target,”They remind me of the old Soviet generals who use to report the grain crop is good this year, knowing that it was a disaster, but afraid or unwilling to tell the truth.”
Everyone who comes into contact with Bush is slimed,think Colin Powel, and now Gen Petraeus.” So very observant and so very true.

Definition of a Democrat: the party comes before country at all costs. Accomplishments: Welfare: Told mother “If you want government money, then kick out the man of the house”. How’s that working for you. I would say this is probably the major reason for the breakdown of the family. If you are wondering why Daddy was not around when you were growing up, thank the Democrats. Media bias, Schools and Colleges that have teachers teach the children to hate their own country, Senators and Congressman who make comments that endanger our soldiers. Are you really going to admit you are a member of this hateful party?

Rocky, I’ve read your juvenile comments and I give them little credence. George W. Bush has lied about everything surrounding his Iraq Blunder. He mislead congress, he lied to America, his Administration outed a CIA agent in an effort to discredit her husband, Bush has gotten almost 4000 Americans killed for nothing, spent almost a trillion dollars and America has received no benefit for it and now he’s sent Betray-us to lie for him. I like this comment from a letter writer to another periodical: ” thought one observation of the less than dynamic duo, Crocker and Petraeus, was right on target,”They remind me of the old Soviet generals who use to report the grain crop is good this year, knowing that it was a disaster, but afraid or unwilling to tell the truth.”
Everyone who comes into contact with Bush is slimed,think Colin Powel, and now Gen Petraeus.” So very observant and so very true.
Posted by: Bill Adkins | Sep 12, 2007 10:53:54 PM
Bill,
As I have said before, argh, prove it about President Bush. When did he lie? Every congressman and senator had the same report available. No one said hey there is a conspiracy here, lets cut and run. Let’s be a pacifist and let Islam be our religion. Wake up man. Get out of My Country I am Defending if you don’t like it. I really mean it. Go to Canada, Mexico or Cuba and try to let your opinion be known and see how long you can do it.

A member of the US Congress calling a four star general a liar? Thats rich. Coming from one of the most corrupt politicians in the entire free world to boot!
Posted by: captainamerica | Sep 12, 2007 11:02:08 PM
captainamerica,
I have talked to alot of my people and I agree with you. We would have said “when was the last time we were attacked?”

It doesn’t take a very bright person to see that the field of Democrat presidential nominees amount to nothing but a bunch of lightweights. All of them lacking leadership, courage and common sense; not to mention they are way too emotional and hysterical. The 1/2 black guy is a one-term Senator with zero management experience and the female front runners claim to fame was First Lady who’s only accomplishment was failing to socialize our health care system – thank God! Not to mention she is only in her second term and of course has no management experience either. Then there is Edwards who thinks the war on terror is a bumper sticker slogan. Hello John what planet are you living on? The rest are just losers, hacks and has-beens.

“Senator Clinton will continue to ask the hard questions in an effort to get our troops home.” If she doesn’t want to accept the truth, then why does she keep asking? To try to make people think she’s “tough” enough to be president? Oh yeah, I’m really impressed. All she (and most other Liberal Democrats) can do is to tear down and destroy. They are rarely ever successful at actually building anything. Go back to your dream world Hillary.

It takes a village… ha ha ha…

Hillary Clinton is a traitor, plain and simple.

Imagine Hillary as Commander in Chief. The visions literally makes me want to vomit.

What I’ve said is that Bush screwed up by attacking Iraq, he blundered, he made the greatest single diplomatic/military/geopolitical mistake in global history. And he did lie, no matter how comfortable you are floating down Denial, Rocky, to get us there.
Posted by: Bill Adkins | Sep 12, 2007 11:21:42 PM
Bill Adkins,
Keep smoking that rock man. Let the MSM keep filling your brain up with BS. What would you have done? I am still waiting for your response on how Bush lied? Oh you don’t have one. LOL. Typical Liberal.

THIS IS TREASON!!! Hillary – if you win the nomination, i am going to take out a mortgage and start a PAC to try and defeat you
I will move to the UK if this power-mad liberal wench is the president
i weep for our country
Posted by: kevin martin | Sep 12, 2007 11:32:14 PM
I hear you Kevin!!

Some one just please step on “I’m dying in the polls to Fred Thompson” Giuliani. What a New York embarrassment. America’s mayor. Right! Cheats on his wife, screws his mistress at emergency headquarters, claims to work more at ground zero than emergency workers, and his kids support Democrats. What’s there not to love?

Ok Listen , does anybody even listen to what people are actually saying in their responses. Rudy said she called the Gen. a liar. Hillary wrote back sayin some crap about head in the sand…..and we are loosing….and bring troops home. Ok soo what about callin the Gen. a liar. Well who cares about that he is only risking his life for us. no big deal to a lady who has never done anything and the only reason she is where she is is because of cheatin bill.

Didn’t the good General get confirmed by unanimous vote?
When you listen to Hillary speak on anything it will require a willing suspension of disbelief.
Oh what the heck, I’ll say it, she is a liar.
Take the glove off our troops and let them kick some arse.

andy,
Thank you. I will not comment about this but again I say Thank you.

I can’t wait until Hillary’s President. It’s people like you Republicans that post here (and really need a flash of reality) that need her more than us left-wing tree huggers do. How can any sane person, after 6 years of the Bushies destroying the constitution of the United States, habeus corpus and the Geneva Convention, not desperately desire a return to the Clinton years?

It’s been said that the people who have the most difficulty trusting others is usually the most untrustworthy himself. (herself)
I can’t help but reminded of that statement whenever I read a post like Stephen’s.

Well it’s just another example of the only Flag the Democrats can rally around is the White Flag of Surrender. Forget that the 98% Democrats at the time all voted to go to war. Forget that the Democrats in congress had the same information as the president AT THAT TIME. Forget that the country at the time wanted retribution. Forget that Saddam running a dump in the desert was thumbing his nose at the greatest superpower in the world. Forget that this desperate attempt at revisionist history is purely propaganda.
YES it’s easy to judge actions 6 years later with the passage of time and the discovery of facts. Let’s see the propagandists lambast the Democrats like Hillary Clinton for voting for the war resolution now floundering looking for a new position. Sure ream Bush for what mistakes were made that’s fair but at least blame the Democrats in equal measure as they could have voted against authorization 6 years ago. But Didn’t. What total BS. Complain about Bush lies. This movie lies even worse by convenient omissions and made up facts!

It is disgraceful that a sitting US Senator would call the commanding general in Iraq a liar.
Have we sunk so low that instead of expressing disagreement with the military policy that it is acceptable to personally attack a general leading our war effort? It seems so.

It’s disgraceful that we have a LIAR commanding our troops in Iraq. But then, the war is all about WMD lies, so I guess it’s appropriate.
Only I wish that all the militaristic right-wing who like to worship generals and act like the the US is a military dictatorship would ship their cowardly butts to Iraq, do their patriotic duty, and get themselves blown up for Exxon. It’s the least they can do for their country ; )

find it funny about a few things.
All of you that want to start with this war thing.
Obviously you forgot how the so called war oil for food oh wait just oil for bush to sell to offshore clients started. We were lied to people. This is not war, it is a pathetic attempt for bush to get revenge for the war his father started, second, last time i checked this so called war was because we were attacked by some odd group called al qaeda or how ever you spell it. in Afganistan. and some guy claiming responisibility, named bin laden wasnt it?

A friend sent me this… a lot of it applies to Hillary…
Dear Mr. Ex-President Clinton :
I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, “Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore.”
So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my “Thank you” for what
you have done, specifically:
1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones , Monica
Lewinsky , Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick . Did I
leave anyone out?
2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to
wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more
about it than I did as a senior in college.
3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially
the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the
meaning of “is” is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not
sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.
4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation
and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie “Wag the Dog” could be
plausible after all.
5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful,
Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look
moral.
6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th
Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about
Democratic campaign fund raising.
7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment’s from the
Whitewater “mess” and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so
far) in the other ” Clinton ” scandals.
8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, “gutting” much of our foreign
policy, and flying all over the world on “vacations” carefully disguised as
necessary trips.
9. Thank you, also, for “finding” millions of dollars (I really didn’t need it
in the first place, and I can’t think of a more deserving group of recipients
for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting. I understand
you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One
than any other administration.
10. Now that you’ve left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of
convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin
society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)
{Note from Rex: Try googling MENA [Arkansas] sometime…not many people mention
it anymore, but, it should be required reading when looking into the Clinton
legacy}
11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I’m sure that Laura
Bush didn’t like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you’ve
received from your “friends.”
12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for
vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate
removing all of that excess weight (China , silverware, linen, towels, ash
trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1.
The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet
fuel. Thank you!
13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance
for her “tell-all” book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs.
Who says crime doesn’t pay!
14. The last and most important point – thank you for forcing Israel to let
Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in
1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo
agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release
so-called “political prisoners”. However, the Israelis would not release any
with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton ,
and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher , “insisted” that all prisoners
be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by
flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported
by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first
identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn’t
Americans know the real truth?
What a guy!!
If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass
this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so
wisely and frugally.
SINCERELY,
A U.S. Citizen
P.S.
Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for “inventing” the Internet,
without which I would not be able to send this wonderful, factual e-mail.
AND THE REST OF THE STORY — Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York U.S. Senator,
now comes under the “Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan,” which means
that even if she never gets re-elected, she STILL receives her Congressional
salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all Americans were pension
eligible after only 4 years?)
If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already
getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she
also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that?
WE DO!
It’s common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they
purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua , New York. Makes
sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes
sense.
Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around
$10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to
house the Secret Service agents.
The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of
that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This
means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton’s salary, mortgage,
transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12-man
staff — and, this is all perfectly legal!
When she runs for President, will you vote for her?

Oh and one other thing. If you check the news one year before the war, Bush said if Iraq didnt sell us oil he would start a war. look it up. So does that seem a bit odd? that a war did start but for so called different reasons. Who blew up the wtc again? And2 like i said who are we suppose to be at war with?

the worse thing I can think of….is deciding who to vote for….Hillary…or John Mccain! !

really people grow up? most of you who talk about the war dont have the guts to get in uniform and toe the line – and yes now most of you will post a blog saying oh i was in vietnom – look i dont care. quit spinning everything. and that first post by scooter – what an idiot you are. and cut and run? what the hell are you talking about you have neither the education or the front line experience to determine whether the situation has improved or not improved – i live it everday and my friends its not getting better and this hog wash about a troop withdrawl ha not true. lowering the troop number to what it was pre-surge only means hey the surge didnt work – wake up. and who the hell are you to try and inflict your hateful comments on all you are not the embodiment of what america stands for or believes in. i go to war for america but i dont go to war for hate mongerers who at every corner try and destroy the resolve of america and try to divide america at every chance they get. you need help. i cant believe these kinds of comments are poste – we are at war you should be praying for the very people that give you the right to post such comments you should be working together to bring us home and most of all you should at least pretend you appreciate the job we do so that you can wake up every morning have your cup of coffee, post your blog and be on your merry way to work in the free country.
i dont care who becomes president as long as they bring us home and began to do it now. if i die here, i have died in a war based on lies and deciet one of revenge and not real cause – people why arent we holding hearings in congress on the war in afgahanistan on the location of osama and why we have failed in that area. the best damn country in the world the most damn resources and we cant find on man. unbelieveable.
bring us home please. i live on the front lines – people its not worth it, we are not making progress

Hillary Clinton is approached by the devil.
He says: “If you sell your soul to me, and the souls of your friends and family, and the souls of all your constituents, I will give you all the power that you lust for.”
To that, Hillary says: “Hmmmm….So…what’s the DOWN side to this deal?”

Yes Hillary wouldn’t be my favorite politician, but Giuliani doubly so. Out of all the a%&hats running for president he leads the pack. It’s the wrong war, and the wrong place. I’m surprised Giuliani said a couple of sentences without mentioning 9/11 or terrorists. Oh yea baby let’s keep spending those billions of dollars to support Haliburton and big oil. What would we do anyway with all that cash? Help some of the 47 million Americans that that can’t afford to see a doctor get health insurance. It’s better to help make the rich even richer. When you read that 1 out 3 Americans think that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. I wonder when we are going to wake up and take our country back. Bravo to our brave men and women who are just trying to do their job, stay alive, and mostly support their families. Never forget that the people that started this war, and those who to continue it. Have never been in combat. The American people will be paying for this war long after it’s over.

Sounds to me like Mrs. Clinton knows more about what’s going on in Iraq than the four-star general in charge! Perhaps we could use her leadership in Iraq to help bring things to a close!!

the general and the state department
gonzo are just a pair of neocon meat
puppets ..
Rudi is a phony liar as usual ..
vote for ron paul ..
dump the phony “conservatives” and
Hillary as well

“…9/11 was an inside job…”
Right, inside your ankle beeper.

bigsarge: if you were referring to my post on the “cut and run” comment… I think you have misunderstood my position
a) I’m definitely not pro war.. I DON’T want our troops mediating a civil war. I want to get all the service men and service women home ASAP…I say let the Iraqi’s fight for their own freedom if they so desire… fighting against “a deep religious divide as is occurring in their civil war” is always a losing battle. You can only lead a horse to water as the saying goes. We have given them an opportunity. Now it should be up to them to take advantage of it (unfortunately.. that dam religion thing keeps getting in the way of peace amongst them)
b) I’m so sick of the partisan divide and having to hear the bickering that is going on continuously (finger pointing).. Both sides originally voted for this thing.. but now that it has devolved into basically a civil war.. both sides are trying to CYA… I say.. enough is enough… if they (Iraqis) aren’t willing to stand up and work out their differences.. no amount of “US sacrifice” is ever going to change that…
c) if you read my other posts.. I’m tired of the the ‘same old politics and players in DC..there is too much corporate and special interest influence greasing too many palms in DC.. I’m quite sick of both parties because I think they are all too self absorbed to do what is right for the USA versus doing what is beneficial to themselves (NAFTA, China trade, immigration blah blah blah). Unfortunately.. we are definitely living in a “me” generation…(as far as the politicians are concerned)
My position is this…
a) my blood boils when I hear the pundits on capital hill insinuating that the General Petraeus is a liar without giving proof and have pre-judged that the ‘books are cooked’…. When MoveOn.org takes out an ad basically accusing our troops of assisting in ethnic cleansing.
The problem is “the military is in the middle of this mess”. Everyone is forgetting that the military only carries out orders from the administration… so any criticism should be directed at the administration.. NOT THE MILITARY (no matter how you feel about this war)
You are correct.. neither me or any of the pundits on capital hill can say they really know what is going on on the ground over there. And some of their decisions have raised an eyebrow such as… having a few of you guys embedded with many Iraqis where you have to rely on them to protect you… Our guys should be protecting our guys.. because those are the only ones you can truly trust)
b) we as a nation need to look inward.. and start taking care of our own first, stop being world cop.. stop trying to ‘assert’ our influence everywhere… fix our internal problems (we sure have enough of those).. protect the public from radical groups.. protecting our borders… provide a good educating for EVERY child, provide jobs for every American citizen that wants a job.
Then if there is money left over (that we don’t have to BORROW) we can help who we can.
Believe me.. I have plenty of issues with both parties. and I don’t fully support either ideology 100%.. I think most people don’t know what or who to believe anymore…because EVERYONE is spinning everything for their own personal gain.
If I were in command I would
a) pull all troops out up to the Kurdish region (out of civil war region and to a regions that is at least friendly to us) and 1) go after Al Quaeda operatives 2) stop foreign fighters from coming into Iraq so they can’t meddle (via airstrikes / technology) and let the Shea / Sunnis work out their civil war amongst themselves..
b) give a stern warning to any entity. and countries that harbor and/or assist them that attacks us with “you better not OR ELSE….” and follow up on the promise if something happens
c) increase protection of our ports / borders to prevent anything from coming into the country
d) build lots of nuclear power plants develop wind / clean coal technology and other forms of green energy.. so that we aren’t dependent on foreign OIL anymore..
Please believe me when I say.. I (and everyone I talk to) do appreciate the incredible sacrifices you have made..and my thoughts and prayers are with the military service members every day. I have done what little I can to support the servicemen (donated to FisherHouse, USO, Treats4Troops) but I realize this pales in comparison to the sacrifices you and your families make every single day.
My hate mongering (if it came across that way) is towards the self serving politicians (mostly the corrupt ones) that try to come off ‘holier than thou’ and that can’t get anything accomplished.. on both sides of the aisle
It is the culture of the “blame game”.. we don’t need finger pointing.. we need solutions!

Obama as in a islamic president? sounds great! you know his dad was in a radical islamic group. No matter how much obama distances himself from that, he is still islamic and arabic. so when all these african americans are saying yes to obama, think about this. HE IS NOT AFRICAN NOR AFRICAN AMERICAN, HE IS
from a islamic family and is aribac. do the research and see for yourself. HE is not black or as we say “african american” The furthest from it. So yeah lets have a arabic president. sounds great to me. *(sarcastic)

Deroy Have you been to Africa ? What are you talking about ? OBAMA IS AFRICA NAME OK ? Don’t tell that to people….. My own family nama ok ???? Don’t ok ?

WHY AFTER 6 YEARS IN IRAQ WAR BUSH STILL NEED TIME ? THIS WAR IS USELESS .IT’S TIME TO COME HOME. NO PROGRESS…….WHY HILARY DIDN’T SEND CHELSEA THERE ? HOW OLD CHELSEA IS ? BUT SHE VOTED FOR THE WAR 4000 DIED, 3000 WOUNDED , NOW SHE NEED THEM COMING HOME BUT REFUSED TO FUND THEM .NOBODY KNOWS WHAT HILARY STAND FOR. SOMETIMES SUPPORTING BUSH, SOMETIMES NEED VOTING AGAINST ,REALLY I DON’T UNDERSTAND HILARY,MAYBE BECAUSE SHE IS TOO OLD 60 YEARS…….

as a matter of fact, deroy has been to africa 6 times including kenya 3 times.
most afrucans in kenya have ‘christian’ names after their colonists the english.
if obama’s father was a herder ghen he would be of the masai warrior group who do all the herding in kenya.
they speak in the englsih and swahili dialect and wear bright ribes and a lot decorative jewelry.
bertrand: who would lead you to say that obama is an african name?
perhaps obama’s fake resume.
the whole thing is phony.
harvard, kansas, indonesia, hawaii, grandparents…………….mother dead, father disappeared, knew royalty in hawaii. media afraid to call him on his resume.
wake up from the coma!

why are you hating on people? I think hillary would makea great hair stylist. that is what her first dream was when she was growing up

it’s too bad. she’s not qualified or competent enough to do hair.
that’s an insult to people who work for a living.
in addition, she would be unable to make change and unqualified to even run a credit card through.
she lives like a queen and lifts her finger for nothing and will NEVER address the media or take questions.
shampoo girl, maybe?

bertrand.
please define the african language.
which one and which dialect?

dear life,
there is a possibility.
prezz-I-dent by lottery.

NOW IS OUR TIME TO STOP BUS-CLINTON’S KINGDOM.
STOP HILARY, IS TO STOP HER DAUGHTER CHELSEA TO BE PRESIDENT. SHE IS RUNNING BECAUSE OF HER HUSBAND BILL CLINTON RECORD.TOMORROW CHELSEA WILL SAY THAT, BECAUSE OF MY FATHER AND MOTHER RECORD I WANNA BE A PRESIDENT.lAURA BUSH TOO WILL SAY BECAUSE OF IRAQ WAR I WANNA BE A GOOD PRESIDENTE , WE ARE TIRED TO THIS KINGDOM .

I say we build the biggest ark err party bus and make the world our stage and party like the end is near!
All humans are created equal and we should start to see it that way. to deny anyone else is less equal as a human is to deny ourselves the fact. So can we all get along and party like there is no tomorrow, because for all we know there may not be a tomorrow. Lets just ease off the presidetial debate addiction and see the world in a big picture and the agree to disagree with the facts of life.

HILARY is too SHY ,SHE DOESN’T LIKE THE MEDIA.why ????? NO MISTAKE FOR HER CAMPAIGN OK????NO MISTAKE ,,,,,SHE WANNA BE ABSOLUTELY PRESIDENT .BUT HOW ABOUT $ 850 000 FROM SHU CHINESE’S MAFIA ? HOW ABOUT 4000 SOLDIERS,3000 WOUNDED ? WE NEED ANSWER FROM HILARY BEFORE GO TO WHITE HOUSE……..??????????

We have been deceived a number of times in the matter of Irauq, starting with G. Bush, D. Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, C. Rice, etc., why should we believe any of the politicians or plitical puppets who are putting forth information or disinformation. It is a shme that all have self serving agendas rather than national interest as motivation.

Bill Clinton administration’s helped
Mr. Hsu to ran away in 1992 . A major bundler of campaign contributions for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential campaign, was arrested last week after skipping a court appearance related to the 1991 fraud case. It was the second time he had vanished, the first being in 1992 when he was due to be sentenced to up to three years in prison on the fraud conviction, but fled and went on to start a new life as a businessman and later as a political fund-raiser in New York. He turned himself in last month after news accounts revealed an outstanding warrant for his 1992 disappearance. Hilary knows him as best friend………..

I am really stoked to see the other really cool progressives who post here questioning authority and letting people know that Bush Lies and People Dies.
Really cool progressives question authority though the Internet. Some examples might be some really cool progressives like me and the Web Fairy, who question authority and have intellectual discussion on the fact that it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11. Bush needed 9/11 to launch his illegal war for oil, and it is only through the corporate controlled media telling us the false tale of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes that Bush and Cheney were able to launch their illegal war.
I am somewhat of an expert on 9/11. I can look at a 72 dpi image on a really cool progressive Web site and tell you more than any aerospace or civil engineer what really happened.
There’s a lot more going on in the 9/11 cover-up than meets the eye. People who buy every word that the corporate-controlled media says should go buy George Orwell’s 1984 and practice up; it won’t be long before the hopelessly indoctrinated manage to get the clocks to thirteen here. Peace. – Scott

I get in now Scott….it is early and I have not finished my first cup of coffee…..

He tried to argue the difference between dems and terrorists. He states that dems don’t live in caves in Pakistan. Well, the insurgents in Iraq, who are terrorists, and the ones this article is talking about, don’t live in caves in Pakistan either. Gosh, maybe rename yourself MissTeenUSA? Lol.
-slammed by the schizoidman. hooah.

Yup, she sounds just like al qaeda

The Dems have control over both houses. Please quit talking and start holding money back for the war. Take responsibility for the surrender and than take responsibility for the results.

Funny how this story says Guiliani ‘blasted” Hillary, while what happened on 911 was a ‘tragedy’. Funny sense of proportion these so-called journalists have.
Are we accepting their stories anymore? No we are not. Are we questioning authority? Indeed we are, for there is no authority more dangerous, more pervasive, and more reckless than the press. The only thing lower than a journalist is a politician, but at least with politicians, we can view their lives thru glass, and we can vote them out. Journalists are unseen, yet their words and images are all around us. Journalists answer to no oversight, yet they make it their business to intrude in others’ business. We know nothing about journalists’ private lives, yet we are supposed to accept what they say, simply because they said it. Politicians have to prove their statements over and over and over again. Journalists never have to, and when they are caught lying or deceiving or just plain incompetent, a ‘correction’ is buried at the bottom of page 26.

Bertrand says, “Bill Clinton administration’s helped
Mr. Hsu to ran away in 1992.” Clinton didn’t assume office until 1/20/1993. Thanks for playing.

“the democrats are different because they aren’t killing Americans, for one. Also, as far as I know, they don’t live in caves in Pakistan, nor do they train each other on how to build bombs. And last time I checked the Democrats also wanted to end this ridicilous war. I could go on with the differences if you need me to.” Posted by: Shutup | Sep 12, 2007 4:14:59 PM
Wait, voting against armor and weapons for our troops isn’t getting them killed? Holding up their funding isn’t harming Americans? I disagree. Please, go on with the differences, because Osama himself wants the Democrats to end this war. Sounds like you guys are of a like mind.

Hillary knows all (NOT). This is a continuation of Bill’s plan to teardown the military anyway possible. This is the same woman who defended the Black Panthers, what do you guys expect? Who do you believe? a three war General or Hillary? She’s just a talking head, no substance. I cannot imagine her as president of this country. What a loser.

The most important issue is a question for everybody(critics of the US efforts), especially ALL presidential candidates.
How, when and where will YOU stop the 2000 year-old Jihad war declared over and over by the radical elementens of Islam? NYC, DC, Shenkesville, YOUR hometown?

the senate are a collection of the most dishonest people on earth and the dems are desperate to have one as our president
very telling

After reading some of these comments it becomes quite obvious that your side is the right side, no matter who “your side”
happens to be. The argument can never be
presented in the form of objective criteria. Like religion it’s all a matter of what you believe and I’m sure you are all familiar with how agreeable religions are. The only thing that holds America together is it’s hatred, left for the right and right for the left. Keep it up folks I’m sure Bin der dundat laden, is having a great laugh

She’s vile. I think the majority agrees she’s a cheat and liar. The issue of course is she is NEVER held responsible for her crimes and she knows she will never be. She will never be anything more then a divisive contentious hag and until she and her willing accomplices (ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, ¾ of the newspapers in the US) are held accountable nothing is going to change. The tree of liberty is crying for fertilizer.

Take away the guesswork, inuendo, slander, namecalling, invented information, and over-compensating liars….I haven’t seen a posting, yet.

Let Hillary disclose her campaign donors now instead of after the election(since that’s what she’s lobbying for). She’s a crook and Americans know it. Petraeus is an American HERO and should be treated accordingly. Rudy is the man!
P.S. Far righties stop spouting off pro-life rhetoric in a debate about Iraq. and Ron Paul supporters . . .Just GIVE IT UP! Its not going to happen

Everyone in New York is feeling cranky today because now they have to pick sides. It is like the Yankees and the Mets meeting in the World Series. It is the struggle to see who loves NY more. Rudy or Hillary? It is also a trial balloon for a possible matchup in the general election. However, we did not even get to Iowa yet. Isn’t politics grand?

Just love these hate filled, venom spewing Republicans. Glad Rudy has finally got into the right political party. 1,800 Iraqis killed in August and the Iraqi people believe they are less safe, though maybe not Bush`s new dead-ender Sunni friends who were killing Americans a year ago. To say the surge is working requires a suspension of disbelief only if reality, as opposed to spin, concerns you.

Rudy, I don’t know whether you’ve noticed, but the large majority of Amricans share Senator Clinton’s anger and hostility towards the war and those that blindly support it. And the “terrible Moveon” ads shrivel swhen put next to the Swift Boat campaign aimed at a decorated war hero by an administration of draft dodgers and cowards. Rudy’s own party doesn’t even support him, so it’s pretty irrelevant what he has to say. I honestly believe he doesn’t have a snowballs’ chance in hell of being elected.

Hey Rocky, Bush lied when he said that he wasn’t wiretapping Americans without due process. Without question, a blatant lie. Bush lied when he said anyone in his office involved in the Plame affair would not work there. Outright, direct lie, since Dick Cheney is still there. Bush lied when he said that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake from Niger in the State of the Union address, even though he had been told not to use that information since it was considered “dubious”. There’s no question about it, and that’s why they tried so hard to discredit Joe Wilson. Bush lied, and was called on it publicly. And the verdict is still out on whether that fool honestly believed there were weapons of mass destuction, even though the whole world and UN inspectors were telling him there weren’t any. And please don’t say,”Clinton thought there were weapons”, becuase he did say that, but he enough conflicting information that he had the sense to let the UN do their job before launching an attack on a threatless regime that has cost our country billions, thousands of lives, and our reputation and prestige. You’re a typical repub, insults with no substance, living in denial.

“If you check the news one year before the war, Bush said if Iraq didnt sell us oil he would start a war. look it up”
Is that verbatim? Look it up where? I think someone is making things up. It sounded good in your head though, right? If you’re going to throw quotes at us, cite your source “life”. I bet your a ringer on the debating circuit.

I think one reference was a magazine article, there were many news articles. i can not remember for sure which ones its been a bit. But i will look them up again. And i know it had to do with oil and war. The actual details a bit fuzzy. But it was about a year this all happened. No problem i will do the research right now.

Yeah, facts always get a little fuzzy around democrats dude, I feel for you. You get back to us on that quote.

by the way i am stating the facts as they are. and still looking it up. your memory would be a bit fuzzy on details after 6 years as well

Mrs Bill Clinton and the rest of the left wing Democrats want us to loose in Iraq. This is not about the war but about cradle to grave gov’t programs, the judicial branch legislating from the bench, lawless society, open orders and pushing their progressive agenda which most of american rejects!
These folks hate america – PERIOD! They are undermining our troops (As John Kerry did years ago – WHEN HE LIED BEFORE CONGRESS)!
We are fighting an enemy abroad that is a serious threat. To defeat these enemies abroad we must first defeat the enemy at home (the left wing of the Democratic party).
Hillary’s statement to the general, with her campaign funding criminal activtiy presently going on, should eliminate her from consideration as president – her statement appeassed MoveOn.org because it was similar to the NYT article. THE REAL ENEMY is here at home – left wing anti-american thugs!

Hank,
Maybe some of us have been there and are at home now debating folks like you! This is not about Iraq – it is about Bush from the left wing perspective. They want us to loose so they can push there idiotic progressive program – political gain . We can win in Iraq and must for future generations!

Bush to review policy on Iraq while its military struggles to…
Feb 20, 2001he reiterated that the Bush administration wants “a change of regime” in Iraq and said the “containment” policy aimed at Iraq would remain in effect As long …

It’s kind of odd, those that don’t like “liberals” think they don’t have rights as Americans. The Constitution is for everyone, even those you don’t like, get used to it. And don’t hold Hillary to levels of honesty that you don’t hold GWB to, and visa-versa. Weird that you protect one party with one line, and use the same exact thing against another party in the next line. WOW. I hope y’all fight until the parties lose, and people run the government again.

You ought to tell GWB where those WMD’s are, he hasn’t found them, yet. Nor Osama Bin Laden.

Not really sure why you would post completely unrelated articles but ok. You really showed me up. Look forward to reading the obviously dilligent work that you’re going to send me. Did you look up the information that you were told to look up? Remember, RUDY 08!

As far as Hillary is concerned, let’s see if the Hsu fits.

Is this the same Rudy Giuliani that locked up homeless people in NYC on Thanksgiving? Suddenly feeling sensitive.. about the Maligned General. Rudy, Bush and Co. won’t be happy until thousands more die. This country has to climb out of the $#$%^in hole the Bushes have put us in. And frankly Hillary Clinton is the most experienced person out there.
You right wing fanatics aren’t any different than the fundamentalists or OBL. You can never admit when someone knows better than you, b/c your already emotionally and psychologically dead.

Sorry ABC i did go over the line. I just had to prove something that I really should have not had to do. If people are to lazy to look up the info themselves then why bother trying to explain. My apoligies again. It won’t happen again. I will stick to the points of fact and not be lured in by those that can not help themselves with informnation.
Velocity
aka life aka
The Smart One

Hillary’s VP will be Osama Bin Laden if she wins the election. They will make a delightful pair. Get me a trash can quick!

Hillary needs to go join her co-horts in afganistan since seeing us fail is her most important goal and she is a favorite of Osama and all the lil demorats…Bill let Osama live to kill in 2001…..after he left office…now she will finish America off …Why can’t people open their eyes and see this!?!?!?!

As I predicted last evening on this thread… it came out today that Hillary is desperately trying to find a way NOT to have to return the $850,000 that the Chinese operative NORMAN HSU contributed to her campaign. She just can’t seem to let go of the $$$… no matter how DIRTY the $$$ is….
I knew this was going to happen. Like I said last evening… I want to see the PROOF that all of this $850,000 in ILLEGAL campaign contributions by a CONVICTED FELON NORMAN HSU is returned. Those supporting Hillary really need to be aware of this. For those thinking GWB is as ‘crooked’ as HILLARY.. show me the hard proof. We have the proof that both CLINTON campaigns have had extensive dealings with NORMAN HSU.. do you really want a commander in chief that was financed by the CHINESE GOVERNMENT? or one whose husband was responsible for ramming NAFTA down the American publics throat (via FAST TRACKING) and DESTROYING countless number of American manufacturing jobs? or one that was responsible for providing the basis for CHINA first being given most favored nation status..as a precursor to being allowed into the WTO.. and thus.. DESTROYING count number of American manufacturing jobs? The Bush administration is also trying to ram more free trade agreements down the American publics throat.. with utter disregard to the number of job losses it will create… lets see.. HILLARY in the pocket of the CHINESE GOVERNMENT… BUSH IN THE POCKET OF BIG BUSINESS…
Folks.. this country NEEDS A BIG CHANGE… NO CLINTONS.. NO BUSHIES… I have had it with ALL OF US being sold down the river while the special interests and big business reap the rewards and fill their pockets (on our backs). However.. now that the “CHINA HALO” is quickly turning into a “TOXIC BLACK CLOUD” (and I’m loving it that people are maybe finally starting to wake up to this HORRIBLE MISTAKE) with all of these poisonous products they are flooding our markets with… big business is getting their long overdue lumps.. UNFORTUNATELY.. it is the consumers, our children.. and our pets that are paying the price… The only voice of reason out there in the media seems to be LOU DOBBS.
I wish LOU would consider a run for president.. I would vote for him in a minute!

How does calling out someone who has accepted (and is now trying to concoct some way to keep the tainted $$$) like Hillary (when there is demonstrable proof of her dealings with a FELON like Norman Hsu) constitute “Republican Hatred”…
UTTER DISGUST at what is happening to our country?.. AB-SO-TIVELY
I guess now when someone doesn’t agree with someone’s point of view.. they are “spewing hatred”… get real please!
If you read my entire post.. I’m not defending him… Yes.. i agree.. there are more Chinese goods now…
I just want to see concrete proof (and not from a lefty paper or something) that he is “crooked”.. has he made mistakes?… yes.. has he made unpopular choices?.. absolutely… but that is quite different from criminal activity. I made it quite clear I’m fed up with the ‘status quo’ in Washington DC period… I despise ANY candidate that is getting their palms greased by special interests or big business… and I’m tired of it! Unfortunately… THEY ARE ALL PARTICIPATING in this activity!
All I can say… is your post shows.. THE TRUTH HURTS that Hillary and company are “less than honest”.. or in her own words… thinking Hillary is being honest would require a “willing suspension of disbelief.” :-) I will concede that she is an excellent politician however.. and she knows how to spin facts well :-)

This is another speculation, to take one slight phrase and declare you are right is silly, My comment about “showing hatred” is from a REPUBLICAN PHRASE that keeps showing up. As for your “opinion”, where’s your PROOF. If someone takes “bad” campaign money, they should find out how much, give it back, and try hard not to let it happen again. What more can a person do? People like you just aren’t satisfied. I hate the way things are, but, when someone makes the right effort, I don’t see criticizing, them, calling them crooks automatically, then, bashing them with falsehoods and innuendo, WHERE”S YOUR PROOF HILLARY ISN’T COOPERATING? I DID put my “proof” out there, it’s part of the Court Record that GWB told him to steal the money and donate it to his campaign. I did read your post and it DOES sound like you’re defending GWB. I see the Chinese connection with GWB, not Hillary was my point about more imports. Lou Dobbs, this is your “step-up” from Hillary? Answer me this, if Hsu’s transgressions were in 1991-92, why didn’t Bill pardon him, seriously. Please don’t give any goofy sidetrcks.

This site is for opinions. And it’s for exchanging views. It’s his responsibility to get out here and let others know that there is an opinion like his. Could you imagine this site if everything was attachments? I’d like to see people get less traumatized when someone disagrees with their opinion. I’d like to see more sticking to the article, one guy said he didn’t like her because she “wasn’t pretty”, that wasn’t part of the article. I hate when someone automatically asks for websites to common knowledge, too.

joelschlegel
that was awesome.!
thank you for the insight on all that and giving some great facts and of course your opinion.
if everyone was like that we would be welll more aware of the truth. which after the last 6 years would be very refreshing, no matter who we vote for , wouldnt it be nice we had the truth of who we are voting for. lets see about the other canidates when we have discussions on these things. then we can all argue facts or draw conclusions on facts and makes it far more exciting and worth while:)
thank you again !:)

I did hear on fox and cnn that hsu did give money to other democrats, not sure which ones, but at least some went to other canidates. My biggest problem with all that is. Why on earth didn’t these canidates have strict background checks on these large donors,including tx statements of how the large donors got the money. That would have stopped it before it ever happened in any of the cases of bad money given as donations. I mean if someone just up and gives you hundreds of thousands of dollars, dont you want to know if it is safe to accept it and that it is not given to you from illegal sources? Hell i would have done a local,stste,federal background check as well a medical background check to see if the person is sane. Just my thoughts

life: [ wouldnt it be nice we had the truth of who we are voting for ]
Yes.. the problem today is that the “truth” is hard to derive from the overload of information we have available to us these days (better than have more than fewer however.. so at least we can attempt to digest as much as possible and come to our own conclusions). You dont know what is ‘fact’ and what is ‘spin’ and what is ‘opinion’. It has all been ‘blurred’ … depending on
the source of the information. What is one persons “left leaning” source is someone else’s “right leaning” source. I was truly amazed to hear someone call CNN a “right leaning news organization” (it must be because of Lou Dobbs.. who I think is a centrist.. but some think he is “right leaning”).. my “right” friends think he is “left leaning”.. it is all based on one’s perception.. which further REALLY complicates the issue. [ OK this was WAY off base for this thread ]

“What we need right now,” he added, “is a reasoned account, we need statesmanship not political venom.” Wipe your chin, Rudy, after that diatribe, you have some major venom drippage.

I think it is absolutely disrespectful for any Senator or Congressman or anyone for that matter to treat our General Petraus the way he has been treated lately. Hilary is nobody if her husbanad would’nt of been President she would not be a Senator. She is not a good loving person or her husband would’nt of been sleeping with interns when he was supposed to be protecting our country instead of making it weaker. They reason I can sya that because the Clintons have actually effected my life. I wanted to serve my country for at least 20 years and because of Bill clintons great idea to downsize our military I lost my job protecting America. People can say what they want they have that right because men and woman like me and my father,sister, uncles,couisns, and grandparents have all put on the uniform and defended our country. So all you haters out there say what you want because in 2009 the people who voted Bush in in 2004 will make sure we have a good conservative in the White House. I am betting on Fred Thompson will be sworn into that office and we will continue to have lower taxes and a strong country and we will be victorious in every war we take on.

Hillary Clinton is the biggest liar, socialist, evil-minded, stupid witch (with a B) America has ever seen. If she takes over, the days of George Bush will seem great. America will be bankrupt and attacked because the “genius” of Hillary wants to reduce our military at a time when we’re faced by the biggest threat in our history and raise taxes to pay for wet backs getting health care. Before you give it to criminals give to my dad who needs an operation on his leg. Anyone who supports Hillary is unbelievably idiotic.