New OBL Tape: Iraq, Democratic Control
ABC News’ Jonathan Karl, Pierre Thomas, Luis Martinez and Theresa Cook Report: ABC News has obtained a transcript of the latest taped message from the United States’ most wanted terrorist, and a senior U.S. intelligence official has confirmed to ABC News that "initial technical analysis suggests the voice on the tape is indeed Osama Bin Laden."
According to the transcript, which can be viewed by clicking here, bin Laden opens with "praise to Allah" and his "law of retaliation" — "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed."
Bin Laden also spoke to the ongoing situation in Iraq throughout the tape, heavily criticizing the Bush administration.
‘One of Your Greatest Mistakes’
He says to the American people, "you made one of your greatest mistakes, in that you neither brought to account nor punished those who waged this war, not even the most violent of its murderers, [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld…”
"You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you — with your full knowledge and consent — to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing."
Bin Laden says President Bush’s words echo "neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle."
‘Democrats Haven’t Made a Move’
"People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."
ABC News Report
The transcript indicates that bin Laden refers to statements from U.S. soldiers in Iraq, from an interview taped by a British journalist. Portions of the interview aired in an exclusive report on ABC News in July, which can be viewed by clicking here.
In the July 16 report, two soldiers with the 2nd Infantry division, Corporal Joshua Lake and Specialist Michael Vassell, spoke candidly about their experiences in Iraq.
"We got grenades going off. We’ve got an IED blowing up your vehicle. And then you’re expected to go back in those four to six, four to five hours and get, and relax to come back out and do another six hours," Lake said. "You don’t have time, you just don’t have time to do it."
"Because we have people up there in Congress with the brain of a 2-year-old who don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t experience it," Vassell said. "I, I challenge the President or whoever has us here for 15 months to ride along, alongside me. I’ll do another 15 months if he comes out here and rides along with me every day for 15 months. I’ll do 15 more months. No, I – they don’t even have to pay me extra."
‘Listen to the Poignant Messages of Your Soldiers’
"It would benefit you to listen to the poignant messages of your soldiers in Iraq, who are paying — with their blood, nerves and scattered limbs — the price for these sorts of irresponsible statements,” bin Laden says in reference to the interviews in the ABC News report.
"Among them is the eloquent message of Joshua which he sent by way of the media, in which he wipes the tears from his eyes and describes American politicians in harsh terms and invites them to join him there for a few days," the statement continues.
Ways to Win the War
According to the transcript, bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war:
"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you."
The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government. "It has now become clear to you and the entire world the impotence of the democratic system and how it plays with the interests of the peoples and their blood by sacrificing soldiers and populations to achieve the interests of the major corporations."
Chertoff Responds
Calling the tape "propaganda," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told ABC News Thursday afternoon, “Assuming it is an authentic, genuine tape and it’s not just a compilation, his being alive would I don’t think be a surprise to anybody. I think we would have had some indication if he were not alive.”
"Having a tape issued in connection with the anniversary of 9/11 is also not a big surprise," Chertoff continued. “In the past, Al Qaida has issued tapes in connection with September 11th. It is a big day for them in terms of their view of having had a victory against the United States.”
"So while we’re analyzing the details of the tape, I don’t think the existence of a tape as such is necessarily significant of an imminent attack or anything of that sort," Chertoff said.
Acknowledging that, "in one sense, they’re [al Qaeda] always up to something," Chertoff said that the government does not have any credible evidence that an attack is looming.
Ramblings and Time References
The rambling transcript also mentions French President Nicolas Sarkozy, which suggests the tape was made after Sarkozy’s election in May.
While the exact date of the taping cannot be determined by bin Laden’s words, he suggests it was made in August by saying, "… just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons." The anniversary was on Aug. 6.
He goes on to call Noam Chomsky "among one of the most capable of those from your own side," and mentions global warming and "the Kyoto accord."
He also speaks to recent issues grabbing headlines in the United States, referring to "the reeling of many of you under the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes…"
"To conclude," bin Laden says, "I invite you to embrace Islam." He goes on to say: "There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent."
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This rhetoric sounds like it comes right out of a Michael Moore movie. What the hell is going on here? We need to find Osama Bin Laden and wipe him out. The world would be a safer place without him.
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | September 7, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Does this guy even really exist?
Posted by: j | September 7, 2007, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
i’m confused by the fake beard
Posted by: Sean | September 7, 2007, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
no j it is all computer generated.oh
and I live with the tooth fairy.
Posted by: john | September 7, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
The only thing scarier than another Bin Laden tape are the responding comments from jingoistic right wing nuts who want to do things like start posses. AL Qaeda could never do the damage to the US that the neocons have done to us. In just a few short years we have gone from being the “light on the hill” to being occupiers and torturers – the brave Americans who died for the true meaning of this country must be spinning in their graves.
Posted by: Liam Shannon | September 7, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I continue to find it fascinating that every time one of these ‘tapes’ is released, one of two _private_ US organizations are always the one’s to leak the information to abcnews. Nobody in the public can seem find these tapes on the Internet, heck, abcnews can’t even find them. Just these two US based organzations amazingly come up with the information every time (which ABCNEWS gives credit to for tipping them off).
I think this is clearly a sign that these tapes are byproducts of the US government/military propaganda machine. The neo-conservatives desperately want to expand their war into Iran, and the duping tactics they used to trick the US into agreeing ot the war in Iraq are being put to use again. What worries me is the nuclear weapons that were shipped on an Air Force jet ‘by accident’ this week. Remember that story? I hope some member of the military, sympathetic to the neo-conservative cause, didn’t hijack one of these weapons in a ploy to frame Iran for something that would give the neo-cons their cause for expanding the war to the rest of the middle east.
We as American citizens need to demand that our government come clean about what it’s up to. News organizations need to VERIFY the information they are fed, instead of believing everything the government says, let alone what a private organization might tell them.
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
what an idiot….
Posted by: Hyrumster | September 7, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
This tape is totally bogus! Only an idiot would believe this tape to be real. All the neocons need now is another false flag and martial law will follow.
Posted by: Frank | September 7, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Bin Laden’s been dead for years they’ll drag his bones out before the election
Posted by: jenny | September 7, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
We hit Al Qaeda where they ain’t in Iraq…the president went from wanting him dead or alive…to “I really don’t think about him very much”…Bin Laden wants us to continue to stay in Iraq, while he sits and laughs watching us mediate a civil war…NONE of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi…most were Saudis, like Bin Laden…he sits and laughs unpunished 6 years after murdering thousands of americans…
Posted by: Common Sense | September 7, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Mr. Bin Laden always seems to pop up just when the White House needs him most to distract the American people from what’s really going on. And the fake beard? Try fake video– if Youtubers can produce special effects to rival Geroge Lucas on a Mac, how hard do you think it is for the government, backed by the latest in technology, to do the same with some old Bin Laden footage? Just for once, consider the source of all this media alarmist propaganda, and ask yourselves– who benefits? Not any of us, that’s for sure.
Posted by: h5mind | September 7, 2007, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Osama bin Laden is a religious conservative.
George W Bush is a religious conservative.
These guys are opposite sides of the same koo koo coin.
They thrive on one another.
They need one another.
Without OBL, GWB wouldn’t be in office now.
Thanks to GWB, there is an incredibly effective terrorist training camp called “Iraq”.
The conservative mentality will destroy the world.
Posted by: jc | September 7, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
What are we to do?
The 2 party system has done nothing for the people of the U.S. to catch this person, he is still alive after 9-11. Force is the only thing Al Qaeda knows and understands. Al Qaeda knows we dont have the stomach to fight!!
Aaron
Posted by: Aaron | September 7, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
ummm if its a still picture and you hear a voice. chances are its not him. it is jsut th people from over there sending it here. nobody owns this earth but unfortunatly human beings cant get along and never will. so we will fight until its over…unti lthe fat lady sings.
Posted by: jen | September 7, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
So if we convert to Islam our taxes go to 2.5%?
Posted by: todd | September 7, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Is it just me, or is OBL more honest and believable than Bush? How shameful is it the the words of a murderous terrorist scumbag carry more truth than those of the President?
I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.
Posted by: kev | September 7, 2007, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Bin Laden speaks some truth: “you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning.” What a shocker. And let’s not forget why he’s still here…9/11 was the culmination of plans made during the previous 8 yrs. – WTC 1993. Hillary is the answer, no doubt.
Posted by: Learn Something | September 7, 2007, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Everything OBL has stated is true. Our democratic process has really hit a wall. Would it be such a bad thing to listen for once, rather than attack. Let’s focus on what is going on here in the USA before we start trying to impose our own beliefs on people who just plain and simply don’t care to hear. As for the comment about being the light on the hill…YES we once were. We should all be ashamed that we have let this bloodshed and lunatic administration continue to represent the country as a whole. This is not who we were intended to be.
Posted by: DV | September 7, 2007, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Transcript — Osama slams Dems for failing to end war, praises Chomsky, calls for end of democracy
From HotAir:
[] it’s an absolute article of faith on the left that Bin Laden wants us in Iraq, has always wanted us in Iraq, and will continue to want us in Iraq to give him a casus belli with which to recruit.
And yet:
Sources tell ABC News t…
Posted by: protein wisdom | September 7, 2007, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I agree with some of bins points that he made but don’t worry folks I don’t have plans to join bin and his gang of morons
Posted by: Laurie | September 7, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
The only way to defeat right-wing and left-wing communist as-well-as religious nut of all branches and forms is a civilian-based defense based on non-violence, read Gandhian satyagraha.
While maintaining a view that these people are human we, as a nation, can actively resist them and stop the political and fiscal war against the American people.
Posted by: gnu | September 7, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Yet again, Osama shows up when things aren’t going well for Bush. And yet again the traditional media plays along.
Posted by: Beecham | September 7, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
At least we know, once again, which party Al Qaida endorses.
Just keep repeating, Dems:
The real war is not in Iraq,
The real war is not in Iraq,
The real war is not in Iraq….
Posted by: SWLiP | September 7, 2007, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
“You permitted Bush to complete his first term, and stranger still, chose him for a second term, which gave him a clear mandate from you — with your full knowledge and consent — to continue to murder our people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Then you claim to be innocent! The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing.”
I hate to admit it but that fool is right you know? None of us looked at how we helped in making these terrorists. 9/11 was a horrible and OBL should pay for it with his lives…but who will pay for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and afghans we killed? Rumsfield quit the white house, but actually he is retired with his cut of the profits. so did the others. what have we done?
Bush, chenny, rumsfeld, Rice etc needs to be on trial. Justice need to be served!
God Bless America!
Posted by: KILROY WAS HERE | September 7, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Yea, Yea, Yea let him toot his horn and shout his message, but in the end we know who will win the battle. Only the peaceful, Freedom embrasing,and truthful nations of the World who believe in Freedom without Dictatorship will survive but all others will try to brain wash the less fortunite people into believing their way is the only way to live under opression. The sooner we get Bin Laden and his mind twisted followers under lock and key the World will become a better place to enjoy for all.His poisen has extended onto every contenent but it takes time to purge the World of such vermon but it will come if we stand United. I hope all Americans around the World will fly their Flag proudly on 9/11 and be United against opession and terrorism as we did so proudly after 9/11
Posted by: Mike S. USAF Ret | September 7, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
i am not surprised that the real issue is being sidestepped here, and once again, americans are being dumb! hello….democracy does not mean democrats! take your political science seriously for once!
Posted by: the educated girl | September 7, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
No seriously…the Feds can zero in on a sexual predator over the Internet but cannot find one shoeless man in a desert who still manages to put out more videos than Beyonce!!!
This is absolutely insane! To think these Neoconvicts actually believe the American people are stupid enough to fall for the Bin Laden tapes and the color-coded terror alerts is totally offensive!!!
I am an American and I am not afraid!!!
Posted by: Justine | September 7, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Incompetant GWB has had 6 years to fix this. Remember “dead or alive?” Well, georgie, he’s still alive & making trouble.
Posted by: MJ | September 7, 2007, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Are some of you so dense that you can’t see whats right before your eyes? That picture is clearly NOT Bin Laden.
Posted by: Ura | September 7, 2007, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I can’t believe how transparent this is! Bin Laden is smart enough to know that people stupid enough to support Bush, and cowardly Democrats would immediately take the opposite position from his. BIN LADEN DOES NOT WANT BUSH’S FOLLY TO END. IT FUELS RECRUITMENT FOR HIM AND HATRED FOR THE UNITED STATES,WITHOUT THE WAR, HE WOULD LOSE HIS BEST TOOL! Can we please WAKE UP?
Posted by: Jackie Giles | September 7, 2007, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
As the elections draw near, and scandals continue to ravage the GOP, it is no wonder the boogey man is back in the form of bin Laden. He makes such timely appearances in order to frighten the sheep. People need to wake up to the daily manipulation and propaganda that is spewed forth by our “leaders” on a daily basis. The death tolls in Iraq are being skewed! Sunni on Sunni and Shiite on Shiite crimes are not even counted! Victims shot in the back of the head are victims of terror groups, if shot in the back of the head their deaths are also not counted in the “official toll”. There is no reason to pay any attention to the Petraeus report, as all of the numbers have been skewed in our “favor”, enabling our troops to remain and more innocent Americans to be killed. And all in the words of W “to maintain a sustained presence in the Middle East.”
Posted by: BU36 | September 7, 2007, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
BU36,
“recognized international organizations”
We’ve seen how accurate, and unbiased, their counts are. Think “Jenin.”
Posted by: exhelodrvr | September 7, 2007, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
The thing to keep in mind is that regardless of who made the tape, it is propaganda.
PROPAGANDA.
Propaganda always has a purpose and the purpose here is pretty well evident. The maker of the tape wants a strong reaction by conservatives against the Democrats. The maker provokes this reaction by mouthing issues of no concern to Al Qaeda (the Kyoto treaty?), but which are supported by the democratic candidates. At the same time, this rhetoric is designed to disaffect liberals from the Democratic party by portraying it as weak and ineffective. This portrayal is mirrored for Americans in general, by decrying the inability to oust Bush in 04 (recall that shortly prior to the election, a similar tape was released).
The net effect of this rhetoric is to strengthen Republicans and weaken Democrats.
Why would the maker of the tape want to do so?
Any thoughts?
Posted by: d. | September 7, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
we know the government is behind the 9/11 so please stop trying to keep us in the dark!
Posted by: miss jones | September 7, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Jim, my numbers don’t come from the DNC, in fact I don’t take my marching orders from any particular committee or organization. Unlike you, I am an independent thinker. The facts are out there, but you have to do some actual research. The fact is, the government is not providing the public with accurate death tolls, and we are still being mislead about the supposed “progress in Iraq”.
Posted by: BU36 | September 7, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Osama is still free.
Are you?
Posted by: elmerg | September 7, 2007, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
While reading your comments i got the impression that finally americans seem to grow up and cease to believe in fairy-tales of national pride, exept of some unbelievable-stupid adolescent-forever boys, who refuse to look at reality. That is: America is at a point of development, we in Europe have passed 70 years ago. Wake up and learn from history and recognize, that democracy in America at this moment is not worth to mention. Where is your opposition?
Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Yawn! This is perhaps the biggest representation of the collosal failure we call the “Bush Administration”. The fact that YoMama is still out there making these broadcasts, while Bush is wasting our resources in Iraq is a point that makes itself.
Posted by: Osama Yomoma | September 7, 2007, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Sounds like Osama is auditioning for a spot on Air America.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
USA government want people to still think that bin liner is alive so that the people of USA would still get scared and keep voting america to fight in iraq and other muslim countries
Posted by: diana | September 7, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Mike- Osama has a lot more in common with Rush Limbaugh than anyone on the left.
Posted by: elmerg | September 7, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
After reading this thread and the knee-jerk reaction from the oh-so-tough, let’s kill-them-all-and-let-God(Allah)-sort-them-out bunch, I now know why this country is so messed up. Pathetic.
Just because millions of people from varying walks of life and political views think the current excursion in Iraq is FUBAR and stupid in the first place, does not all mean we root for AQ or OBL
Posted by: po | September 7, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Osama is campaigning for Bush again, just like in 2004, and the dittoheads eat it up -again! OBL is messing with your heads the way you think the ‘liberal media’ does. Anyone who believes Rush is clearly gullible. Bush is OBL’s best friend, his incompetence has kept OBL alive all these years and helped the jihad go world wide. With Bush and the Republicans in office the big concern is war profits so OBL is good for business. No questions asked till Dems won in 2006.
Posted by: born_7-4 | September 7, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
I’ll give anyone $10 to light his beard on fire.
Posted by: castra regina | September 7, 2007, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
So, the ones looking forward to the end of the Bush Admin and voting in Dems:
Are you going to vote for a person who swears to find Osama?
Are you going to vote for someone who cleans up messes that are made?
Will be get out of Japan, Germany, S.Korea before we leave Iraq?
Posted by: Sir Lanse | September 7, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Read the transcript, conservatives – OBL says his interests are the same as the neo-conservatives. Why are you voting for the party that shares the same goals as the terrorists?
Posted by: billyD | September 7, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
I fail to see the difference between the talking points of Bin Laden and the talking points of the American Democratic Party. It’s as if they are reading the same play book.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
The reason Bin Laden crashed those airplanes into the Twin Towers was to goad the US into a quagmire in Afghanistan. I think he was sorely surprised about effortlessly his cohorts and the Taliban were routed. Bin Laden’s plan is to first: unseat what he considers the corrupt leaders in his corner of the world and push the US and other western powers out of the region. Secondly: establish a caliphate from Morocco to India. Thirdly, dominate the rest of the world by intimidating Europe and isolating the US. Bin Laden and those with like minds are perfectly capable of the most heinous acts of terror to pursue what they think is God’s will. They are perfectly willing to die for their cause – in fact, they look forward to dying for their cause as long as they get the chance to take their enemies with them. This mindset makes it impossible to negotiate or reach a fair understanding. They have given us no choice but to get them before they get us. This conflict is going to last for decades. It is a generational problem. The US and its allies will prevail and defeat Islamic Fundamentalist Facism just like it defeated Communism and the fascists of the 20th century. But, it is not going to be easy and it is not going to be cheap – either in terms of blood or treasure. I am afraid, however, that most Americans will not fully understand this threat until they hit us again. Its almost like Al Quaeda will have to detonate a nuclear device in Manhattan for most Americans to wake up and understand we are at war and have been for at least twenty years with these people. We are not at war with “Terror”. We are at war with real people who hate us because we stand in the way of their ambitions. It is not any more complicated than that. We will prevail in this conflict just like we have in all the others – but I am afraid it is going to scary in the interim.
Scott C.
Posted by: Scott Chrimes | September 7, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
HE IS DEAD, DEAD, DEAD….THIS IS A PHONY VIDIO TO KEEP HIS HENCHMEN THINKING HE IS ALIVE BUT HE IS DEAD. IF HE WERE REALLY ALIVE HE WOULD PROVE THAT BY SHOWING HIS FACE EVERY FEW DAY WITH SOMETHING SHOWING THE DATE. THIS IS A FRAUD.
Posted by: jerry, decatur, il | September 7, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
why can’t I just read the transcript for myself? All of it.
Posted by: JB | September 7, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
It sucks that he’s right. I am no terrorist (thus my disagreement with the war in Iraq) but I’d take this idiot’s rant over the crap that keeps spewing out of the white house, any day of the week.
Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Wow! Get rid of my 38% tax bracket for a 2.5% alms plan?? SIGN ME UP!
Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2007, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
If Bin Laden blew up New York City, the American liberals would just blame it on Karl Rove.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
What do you mean, no threat?
Islamists always invite their enemy to convert before they proceed to destroy him.
Last call.
Anyway, don’t believe the lie of the image. It’s not UBL. Look at his past tape. Same outfit, same background, same headdress(?), etc. Just a little editing and voila, the image speaketh.
Posted by: elizabeth | September 7, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Wow – he and the Democratic leaders have the EXACT same talking points! Why doesn’t that give Bush haters some pause?
Oh, and there are taxes in Islam. They’re called Dhimmi, and the unbelievers must pay them or face execution.
Posted by: kyle coppola | September 7, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Why do I get the impression that this could be a wingnut dressed up as Bin laden sprouting every Republican anti-Democrat talking point. OBL must have FOX news in his cave.
Posted by: Brett Meisner | September 7, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
His rants sould just like Pelosi, Reid Schumer, Kerry, etc. Maybe they wrote this.
Posted by: Transfixed | September 7, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
I feel sorry for Americans. Your leaders have screwed with your heads so much that your poor tiny brains are about to explode. For the record, Osama bin Laden died in 2001 – what we have here is CIA propaganda.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
What a lot of bluster……
Osama is a cat without claws. Embrace Islam, indeed.
Posted by: Richard | September 7, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Usama Bin Laden Issues Fatwah Urging All Americans to Convert to Using JUST FOR MEN Hair and Beard Coloring Products
Looking spiffy in his loosely-wrapped turban, labrador-yellow robe (like the dog he is) and recently dyed hair, mustache, and beard, Usama Bin Laden today issued a fatwah or declaration that all Americans should convert to using the Just For Men line of hair and beard coloring products.
Posted by: Dennis OBoyle | September 7, 2007, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
OK – I, for one am ready for all of this to be over. I will embrase Islam, and have my 2.5% in the Bank as I write this. Where do I do so?
Posted by: tkm | September 7, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
LoL … I love it. Can we get back to talking about Britney and her VMA performance?!
Posted by: Frank | September 7, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Let the dems run him next year, once again, they’ll scream ‘THIEF!!’
Posted by: Gamecock | September 7, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Osama is a religious fanatic.
His central nervous system was programmed by interaction with a family and community of hate. There is neuroscience to back this up.
He is what he is.
Now what? He says that we can not coexist. How do you negotiate peace with a person who is hard-wired from birth to hate and destroy?
Ever get the feeling that enough is enough? He is saying that it is his way or no way. America, what do you say?
Hillary? Obama? Gingrich?
Where the hell is Stormin’ Norman? Revive Patton somebody!
Posted by: Elizabeth in Dallas | September 7, 2007, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Why doesn’t he just die already!!!!
Posted by: Beth | September 7, 2007, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Any idiot can tell this is Karl Rove and the right-wing attack machine as a part of their effort to “swift boat” Hillary. They will stop at nothing. Next, they will dress up like BL and try to enter Cuba…Oh wait, wrong set of idiots.
Posted by: Bosque | September 7, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Low taxes, global warming, anti-war… is ubl trying to triangulate? He’s sounding like Ron Paul, though using reverse psychology, I suspect he wants a neo conservative type leader who will continue to wage war against the middle east, thus strenthening his recruiting efforts. Knowing no american listens to a word he says and reacts in the opposite direction, he feeds a message to repel anti war americans towards the right.
Posted by: JC | September 7, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Who is bin Laden’s speechwriter?
James Carville?
Nancy Pelosi?
John Murtha?
Che Guevara?
George Soros?
Peter Lewis?
Tim Robbins?
Ron Paul?
John Edwards?
Mrs. Bill Clinton?
Tim Russert?
Bill Moyers?
Posted by: john musacha | September 7, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
I’ve got it! Rove really resigned so he could could go to work for OBL!
This little bit of propaganda is right out of the Republican playbook!
Posted by: elmerg | September 7, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Who wrote this dribble, Pelosi? Harry wingnut or maybe Hillary? This is right out of the Democratic platform why hasn’t President Bush kicked in the Sedition Act of 1942 signed by that socialist himself FDR! Embrace Islam HA, embrace a 50 megaton nuke you loser, one has your name on it Osamababy
Posted by: Jack | September 7, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO SCREAM (DON’T YOU QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM AS THEY EMBOLDEN OUR ENEMY’S!
Posted by: MMS | September 7, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
converting to Islam seems a small price to pay for instituting a 2.5% flat tax…I say it’s a win/win proposition…
Posted by: Steve Forbes | September 7, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Sadly, as much as I support the War on Terror, and our Commander-in-Chief, the threat looming over our nation and our allies is very real.
I also fear that our Department of Homeland Security tends to try and brush off these threats with more alacrity and dispatch than ever before. Which indicates that they want to keep the real potential for fear at bay among US citizens, or they are just not quite sure and feel responsible to keep us feeling safe and not alarmed.
Either way, I have an uneasy feeling that our time is running out again. When will something happen? Hard to tell and it could be a year, or two, yet for all we know they have planned.
In any event, they are patient, loathing and full of hatred of anything Western. Embracing Islam is a way for OBL to raise the ire of our Judeo-Christian roots. He knows how to get our goat despite hiding his.
Be alert, be cautious and vigilant. Our very open society, despite all the liberal rhetoric of President Bush turning our country into a nation lacking any personal privacy with new federal laws aimed at protecting the homeland, is really our ultimate demise. The Islamic radicals and Al Qaeda are in our country and are waiting to strike. Our only way to win is to keep fighting, keep our faith in ourselves and in protecting our allies and above all never let the evil-doers get the upper hand. Fight back each time and hit them harder. We CANNOT give up this fight at the expense of a dismal future for the moral and peaceful coexistence of humankind.
VOTE FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
Posted by: Steven P. Ray | September 7, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
The Democrats will agree with everything Bin laden said, except for the part about the insane taxes.
Posted by: Mr. Sparkle | September 7, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
“The NEOCONS are scarier than OBL….there is a conspiracy…BOOOO!” I want to start a tinfoil hat business, so the government can’t read liberals’ thoughts anymore. I’d make ten million at least.
Posted by: Gordon | September 7, 2007, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
As a conservative, I plan to vote strictly democrat this next round. That will be the only way to get the revolution rolling. Let’s get this party started….
Posted by: jdam | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Just watch the democrats start with the kook talk about how Bin Laden is working for the GOP!
Posted by: Schratboy | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
He sounds a lot like the Unabomber-he too was a math geek who couldn’t get laid, I bet he’s tired of kissing goats.
Posted by: Smitty | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I love Bin Laden. I’d suck his desert dick anytime.
Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I like the 2.5% tax Plan!
Posted by: pfl | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
As a conservative, I plan to vote strictly democrat this next round. That will be the only way to get the revolution rolling. Let’s get this party started….
Posted by: jdam | September 7, 2007, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
First you must understand where the tape comes from. It comes from IntelCenter.com a front run by the pentagon. Intelcenter.com has rehashed former so called Bin Laden tapes. Second 9/11 is used as a political tool to score political points for the neocons. Ask yourself who benefits from this tape? This will do nothing for the so called Al-Qaida. It will benefit the neocons because it scares people. Simple term this is a psy-op done by the neocons to fool people into thinking Bin Laden made this. Check the history of each tape released. It is released at time specific when the Admin is low in the polls and needs support. If you believe everything you see on TV without questioning it then you are gullible. Question everything you see.
Posted by: PanZheXin | September 7, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
As a conservative, I plan to vote strictly democrat this next round. That will be the only way to get the revolution rolling. Let’s get this party started….
Posted by: jdam | September 7, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I see Rove broke out his boogie man a little early this year. Trying to get the sheep lined up for slaughter too soon might bite the GOP in the butt.
Posted by: gopchickens | September 7, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
I wonder when Hillary is going to ask Osama for a donation to her campaign…or maybe he could be her VP..he says all the same things she and the other Democratic Candidates, he has a lot of foreign affairs experiance…he has proven defense experiance…I’m waiting fot him to moderate the next Daily Kos Democratic Debate!! Did you notice that you have never seen George Soros and Bin Laden in the same room?
Posted by: Retired_subsailor | September 7, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
The main problem for us is the world’s topmost terrorist is about a 100 times smarter than our commander in chief. I think that OBL does NOT want us to leave Iraq. Where else does his group of murderers get a chance to kill about a 100 US soldiers AND make US spend 12 BLN (with a B) dollars every month AND keep the country divided over it. This is just a bit of REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY. He knows that the jingoists among us will say we have got to stay and finish them off. WHich is exactly what he wants to keep trying to do. The difference between these killers and us is we love life and living… they don’t. He’s not quivering in his boots afraid of death. They welcome it. The cause, is more important than their life. Any way, my opinion, is we are stuck in Iraq…the only way around this problem is through it. Its going to cost us a looooot of money and several lives before this is all over.
It might very well be confucius who said “its better to have an army of asses lead by a lion than the other way around”.. which is what our country’s present situation is.
Posted by: Sampras | September 7, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
WOW! These liberals scare the heck out of me! If you hate America so much and don’t want to fight for our freedom, why dont YOU go find UBL? Worthless, mind-numbing idiots!
Posted by: seth | September 7, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Fred Thompson for President? LMAO. If your best two choices are Rudy and Fred, get used to saying President Clinton again. And believe me, that is not who I support in the race currently, but she would destroy either candidate.
Posted by: BU36 | September 7, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
I like OBL cause he reminds me of a goat. I like goats and stuff.
Posted by: jim c. jones | September 7, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Biz ! AL Qaeda could never do the damage to the US that the neocons have done to us? Thank you, I needed a good laugh for the weekend! I guess this makes you a…..left-wing nut???
Posted by: J. Amoros | September 7, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
This is just Karl Rove in a fake beard.
Posted by: lib | September 7, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Hey “Kev” you fear the government? Hmm, you must have personal information on friends/acquaintances that have disappeard or have been locked up. Why not share it with us you screaming hysterical idiot.
Posted by: Joed | September 7, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Grecian formula for men:
2.98
Copy of “Inconvenient Truth”:
$.99
Dime-Store Chomskyan Socialism..er..anarcho syndicalism..er..whatever it is:
Priceless.
First Chavez, Now Bin Laden.
Chomsky = Useful Idiot
Posted by: ghost of themistocles | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Repubs-
Please stop hijacking the “nationalism” in the U.S. You are less than 50% of the population, do you understand! Grow the %^&* up and stop prending to be strong, nationalist from your RV armchair. You do not own this country, got it!
Posted by: EJ | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
He supports lower taxes? I don’t think the Democratic party will embrace him too soon…
Maybe this revelation will finally enrage the Democrats enough to the point that we may actually win this thing. “How dare he suggest lower taxes!” Oh, the irony!
Posted by: Me | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
ABC SAYS: Transcript which can be viewed here.
And then proceeds to talk for the rest of the article about whats not on even on the Transcript they link to!!
SHAME ON YOU! Link to the ENTIRE transcript!
Posted by: jben | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Osama is a moderate Democrat!!!
Posted by: Ron G | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Is Osama becoming a metrosexual? If he’s gonna dye the beard, might has well get a facelift, he’s looking pretty haggard.
Posted by: JC | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
This is just Karl Rove in a fake beard.
Posted by: lib | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Osama is a moderate Democrat!!!
Posted by: Ron G | September 7, 2007, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
“Posted by: PanZheXin | Sep 7, 2007 4:08:04 PM
As a conservative, I plan to vote strictly democrat this next round. That will be the only way to get the revolution rolling. Let’s get this party started….”
OMG, this “conservative” has converted! Let’s all follow this conservative and get “the revolution” — i.e. ignoring terrorists and surrendering on a Carter-esque scale!
Posted by: kyle coppola | September 7, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Bin Laden and his pathetic band want this country to fight him in the Middle East, that is his goal. So do not do so, why do we need the sand?
Posted by: EJ | September 7, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
ROFLMAO!!!! Osamy for President! HAHAHAHA!! What an insane lunatic just like libs! All talk, no guts. Golbal warming will Osamy before libs do.
Posted by: SCOTT | September 7, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Is there really an Arabic word for neoconservatives?
Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Does all this complaining of Democrats in the comments make George Bush a better president?
Posted by: Nolff | September 7, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
1) It was nice of OBL to confirm that the Socialists/Democrats and Al-Qaeda are ideological soulmates.
2) Why am I not surprised that OBL is a Chomsky fanboy?
Posted by: Skittles | September 7, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
OMG!!!! He sounds like the Poster Boy for the Democrat Party.
This could end up doing far more damage to the Democrats then one might suspect.
“You are either with us, or the terrorists” -George W. Bush
Sounds to me that the Democrats have a new spokeperson.
Posted by: Mike M. | September 7, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
“bin Laden says there are two ways to end the war:
“The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you.”
The second is to do away with the American democratic system of government.”
when will Dems and the anti-war nuts wake up to this? they have always been clear about their intentions, why must the Dems ignore it?
Posted by: Thomas | September 7, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Slow do everyone. Lets think about this. No taxes, I think i can give up pork for no taxes
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Dyed his beard for sure!
Next thing you know he’ll be tapping his foot in toilet stalls whenever Republicans are around.
Posted by: elmerg | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Well, a 2.5% flat tax. That is better than the R or D party. Is Osama going to announce on the Tonight Show? Of course, their infrastracture is low maintenance. Bridge collapse? Well, there are no bridges. Health care, well if you live that is good, if not it is God’s will. On the other hand, I bet they have no trial lawyers….
Posted by: jb | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Posted by: jc | Sep 7, 2007 3:01:35 PM
Is it just me, or is OBL more honest and believable than Bush? How shameful is it the the words of a murderous terrorist scumbag carry more truth than those of the President?
I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.
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DO YOU DEMOCRATS REALLY FEEL THIS WAY? HONESTLY. PUT PARTISAN B.S. ASIDE AND THINK: is THIS your party? Do you BELIEVE POSTS LIKE THIS? If so, I weep for the country.
Posted by: Kyle Coppola | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Guess Chris Wallace was right – the Dems (dhims?) ARE getting thier marching orders from bin Laden!!! Support terror! Vote Democrat! HAHA Rove, you magnificent bastard!
Posted by: jdawg | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
You simple Amerikans with your Walmarts, and suv’s. You don’t understand the nuances of the world. We are having great success here integrating the beautiful muslim people into our generous society. Osama brings up great points. If we help out the impoverished ones that look up to him maybe we can find common ground and live in peaceful coexistence.
Jan
Posted by: Jan | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
As Eric {Sep 7, 2007 2:47:03 PM} referred to, I too believe this video was fabricated as part of a misinformation campaign. However, it was created not by the political right or their anti-Islamic theocracy allies, rather by their political opponents, such as communists, Marxists, socialists, authoritarians, and dictators around the world.
Posted by: Jim, NJ | September 7, 2007, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Well lookee here. Osama got a shave, moved to a beach house on the Phillipine coast and has been spending the last few years sitting in his recliner facing Mecca & watching the Blue Collar Comedy Tour and Fox News. Seems like our good buddy Osama just got fed up with having to run scared and posted this little ditty “Join Islam, throw the bums out of Congress, vote for someone who likes me”.
This isn’t the Osama I know. Osama was a messanger from Allah, his angel of death. His rantings were much more dogmatic and spiritual than this. The entire thing is contrived. I guess it took a couple of years to find a suitable Osama look alike. This smells like a poorly done farce. Leave it to the boneheads in Al Queerda and their buddies at Ja-Queeraz to think they could pull this off. Even the worst Monty Python scetch comes off better than this.
Posted by: Chris Vaughan | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Land of the FREE, home of the BRAVE!!!
Not land of the wiretapped, home of the scared.
You support the erosion of our liberty’s for your temporary feeling of safety. You people should learn to love it or leave it.
Posted by: MD | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Biz ! AL Qaeda could never do the damage to the US that the neocons have done to us? Thank you, I needed a good laugh for the weekend! I guess this makes you a…..left-wing nut???
Posted by: J. Amoros | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
The Iraq war, illegal immigration, and various other battles between conservatives and liberals all highlight one thing for me — the failure of doing things halfway. We are not doing enough to “win” in Iraq, yet at the same time, we are doing more than enough to inflame the Muslim world and to cause liberal outrage. Similarly, with regard to illegal immigration, we are not doing enough to actually solve the problem, yet that which we do is branded as oppressive and unfair. I personally tend to lean toward the conservative side on most issues, and am incredibly frustrated by these half-arse policies. If you choose to fight in Iraq, you need to do enough to win. Similarly, if you’re going to have borders and maintain your sovereignty as a nation, you must actually enforce your immigration laws. If you are not going to do these things, you really must follow the liberal strategy of appeasement and weakness, since they are the only hope that one would have. Doing things halfway — taking all of the blame, paying huge amounts of money, making citizens go through ridiculous security measures while not engaging in the obviously effective strategy of racial and ethnic profiling, and nonetheless being branded as ruthless and oppressive while obtaining virtually none of the desired results — clearly does not work. All are angry, our budgets are blown, and we have little to show for it. Either do what it takes to win or, alternatively, build mosques in Iowa and open up the border completely. Halfway never works.
Posted by: Johnny | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Its obvious he is siding with the Democrats because he sees that their policies will further weaken the country and distract the people.
His whole intent from the beginning was to undermine our economy and divide the people.
If both parties would come closer to the center and work together, we could stay a stronger country. Pay attention to the points he is making, he sees where we are weak.
- that also means: do not listen to Noam Chomsky
Posted by: Dave | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Here’s an idea: maybe Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama/John Edwards/Nancy Pelosi can use this video in their next fundraising call.
After all, the guy sounds more like a Democrat than the Democrats do.
Posted by: James Marsden | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
You’ve got it all wrong. The actor playing Usama died last April when he choked to death on a hot dog. After many casting calls, this dude got the part but unfortunately, he can’t grow a beard because he suffers from alopecia. I also heard he isn’t even an Arab! Watch two and a half men this fall on ABC…please!
Posted by: Charlie S. | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Hey bin Laden, don’t blame all of the American people…49% of us didn’t vote for the 3 stooges.
Posted by: Hey U | September 7, 2007, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Bin Laden touting low taxes? Heh, we always knew he was a Republican by nature.
Posted by: PF | September 7, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
SNL needs to do a pardody of this.
Put a turban and beard on Will Farrell and have him play Bin Laden, only Will can speak in an American accent.
It would be hilarious.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
This is frightening. Bin Laden needs to be killed but I’m more afraid of some of the idiots on this sight that claim to be Americans. It appears that more than half of you idiots are on his side. Wake up people.
Posted by: Andy | September 7, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
ABC News Obtains Transcript of Osama Bin Laden Tape
Elusive Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden vows to step up the battle to end the war in Iraq in a new video which contains references suggesting it was made recently to a transcript of the video obtained by ABC News, bin Laden apparently says there are two…
Posted by: Homeland Security National Terror Alert | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Hey libs, must be nice knowing that you and Bin Laden are political bed fellows!
Posted by: Jack Mehoffe | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I want to hear more about the low taxes in Islam … 2.5%! This guy may really be a Republican in disguise.
And yes, I’m just kidding …
Posted by: IB Bill | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Perfectly timed for Petraeus’ upcoming report. Coincidence? It sure sounds like the product of the US’s Propaganda Machine…
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
I just found this great site to buy Bin Laden Wanted Dead or Alive Buttons, T-Shirts.
Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Did no one else notice that when showing Osama’s two photos next to each other – an image from a year ago – and the new “fake beard” image – the shoulders don’t even match up?
Did he magically obtain a new build as well?
That’s all I’m sayin’
Posted by: Leigh | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Finally it is clear that democRATs are 100% in sync with Al Qaida whether this tape is fake or not.
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Sadly, we’ve had our collective heads up our ass in Iraq when we should have invaded Pakistan, and toasted this towel headed MFr. Thanks Bush!
Posted by: Richard | September 7, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
THIS IS A JOKE. THIS COUNTRY IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. YOU ALL NEED TO WAKE UP.
Posted by: Mac | September 7, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
It sounds like OBL is sitting on Hillary’s lap with her hand up the back of his shirt………you little puppet!
Posted by: Valerie | September 7, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I object to the defamation of Monty Python. They would do Osama much better than this.
Posted by: jb | September 7, 2007, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Where do you think Bin Laden gets all of his perceptions and ideas how Americans think and act? “…the world is following your news.” Statics indicate that the majority of jounalist are liberals. If this was WWII, they’d be the scrip writers for Tokyo Rose. They have helped those that would kill every single one of us. I’ll bet you Chomsky actually feels good about himself after reading that bin Laden looks up to him. That pretty much says it all about liberals, doesn’t it. Traitors!
Posted by: Scarey | September 7, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
Lets stop hitting at the President & try working together
Posted by: SAL | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Wow. I never realized how much Bin laden sounds just like Ann Coulter and Sean Hannitty.
Scary.
Posted by: Ian | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
In response to Eric | Sep 7, 2007 2:47:03 PM – What you say is so true. I will add, however that to think that the Democrats are any better than the Republicans is what the true puppet masters wich us to believe. All of our elected official’s strings are pulled by the big corporations and the corporations strings by the financial moguls whose ultimate goal is to have a one world government. Their great plan took on a great momentum in 1913-17 when congress illegally imposed the federal income tax on Americans. This has allowed the men behind the curtains to financially roll both parties. It’s a no win situation for us Americans at this point.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
The only news here is that Usama has come out… for the flat tax.
Posted by: marcus | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Who is Jerry Lewis???
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Wow, just read the comments from left nut headcases. Kev, that was really original. I’ll let you left wingers in on a little top sectret info – that isn’t OBL, it’s W with a fake beard! You guys are insane, why do you think OBL wants us out of Iraq? Why do you think OBL is against democracy? Can you think? Try to refrain from repeating the drivel from Reid, Pelosi, Biden, etc. You’ll feel better, and smarter too.
Posted by: Ping2007 | September 7, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Chavez, Castro, and Iran’s nut-men-a-job all endorse Hitlery Rotten Klinton for President too.
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Here’s an idea: try putting as much effort into supporting our nation as you put into bashing Bush for anything that occurs on a daily basis?
You libs and your white hot hatred of our President are the reason our country hasn’t ponied up as a unified nation and wiped scum like Bin Laden off the map with one fatal swoop.
In the mean time, you tie our soldiers hands by having the equivalent of signing mortgage papers before they can squeeze the trigger and eliminate the enemy.
Thanks for all you do to support this bearded weirdo.
Posted by: Truthseeker | September 7, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Title should have read:
“New OBL (D-Afganistan) Tape: Iraq, Democratic Control”
Posted by: David | September 7, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Here’s an idea: try putting as much effort into supporting our nation as you put into bashing Bush for anything that occurs on a daily basis?
You libs and your white hot hatred of our President are the reason our country hasn’t ponied up as a unified nation and wiped scum like Bin Laden off the map with one fatal swoop.
In the mean time, you tie our soldiers hands by having the equivalent of signing mortgage papers before they can squeeze the trigger and eliminate the enemy.
Thanks for all you do to support this bearded weirdo.
Posted by: Truthseeker | September 7, 2007, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Eric, that posted at 2:47, you need to get in touch with reality! Your loosing it!
Posted by: Eric | September 7, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
1st “No blood for oil”…Then complaints that Iraq is not being rebuilt with oil money. 2nd “we are torturing in Gitmo”…Then we release 150 detainees and 50 don’t want to go home in fear of being tortured. 3rd “there was no Al-Qaeda in Iraq before the invasion”…however, they were somehow in every country in the world (even south Florida), but not Iraq. 4th “we went to war without enough troops”…then, the democrats stated that they could not support the surge. 5th The complaint was that the people of Iraq were not taking up the fight…then Chuck Schumer stated that the local tribes fought Al-Qaeda “in spite” of the surge. He complained about the fact that the tribes of Iraq were defeating Al-Qaeda. My estimation leads me to conclude that the liberals will soon fully support the war in Iraq.
Posted by: Kevin K | September 7, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
ABC NEWS says: you can see the traniscript by clicking here.
And then proceeds to spend the rest of the article talking about thening not even included in their puny one-page ‘transcript’
SHAME ON YOU ABC! Now Link to the whole transcript!!
Posted by: jben | September 7, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Jim Jones – in one instance you say Bin Laden’s dead…and in another you say he’s sitting there laughing at us and wants us to stay in Iraq. Which is it? Do you have brain damage?
Posted by: chris whiffen | September 7, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Why is this so hard to understand? OBL and his followers have openly declared themselves as enemies of the United States and clearly stated their intentions of killing us (including women and children).
Furthermore, he is joined by the likes of Amadinijad who boasts his progress towards a nuclear weapon.
We do not need any more intelligence. Just take them at THEIR word.
The West is in a religious war with Islam. There can be no peace until a reformation occurs within Islam and the radicals are rejected.
Until then, we must clearly state our intentions to ruthlessly wipe these enemies off the planet and follow through with our actions. The rest of the world may disagree with our tactics, but no one should doubt our motives.
We toppled the Nazis and the Japanese in 4 tears with ruthless efficiency. We must do the same here. No apologies for GITMO, collateral damage, or living conditions in the Middle East. The seeds were sowed in the Middle East and that is where the devastation should be reaped.
Posted by: Bill Douglass | September 7, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
These people are absolute morons. To think that a country with 2.5 million weapons among it’s citizens is going to convert to Islam. What a joke. If the idiots would just quit hiding behind the skirts of women and little children we could just meet face to face on the battle field and get this over with. Wouldn’t take very long to chase them out of their shoes and into the ocean. I hope they realise that once they start killing innocents in this country the good old boys that live here areen’t going to stand for it. Muslims better hide out somewhere. Maybe they could move in with the Dems.
Posted by: Dave P. | September 7, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
It is Obvious that we have only One recourse in dealing with the ENEMIES of the USA. That being the REELECTION of GEORGE W BUSH FOR A THIRD TERM!!! If FDR could be elected 4 times, so can George W Bush, Fair is Fair! Not only woudl GWB Finally drive OBL out of His Mind and cause him to make a mistake that would enable to find & kill him, but it woudl also cause a Mass EXODUS of the LUNATIC LEFT WING here in the Good Ole USA!!!
Thus Saving AMERICANS FROM ALL OF THE REAL ENEMIES OF FREEDOM!!!
Posted by: BUSHCHENEY2008 | September 7, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
The delay in releasing it is the cherry picking of info so that it reads what the administration wants us to hear — as far as criticsing the administration, I don’t know why — we are playing into their hands Bush is acting just like them so there is no point of reference.
As far as emboldening the enemy the one who plays into their hands is the one — not the Democrats and if they don’t stand up to Bush this time they may be looking for other jobs come 08 —
Posted by: Paulet | September 7, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I always knew liberals were the enemy within. Now we all have proof!
Posted by: jdawg | September 7, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Bin Laden? He’s an employee of the Bush Crime Family. The tapes always conveniently come out when the Bush regime is in trouble or in an election.
Someone should take a long hard look at the decades long partnership between the Bush and Bin Laden families.
Don’t believe it? Research it yourself. Then ask yourself why this criminal is still in power after his murder spree which began on September 11, 2001.
Posted by: Richard | September 7, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I guess it is OK to side with Al Qaida if you are as sick as today’s liberal.
After all, Osama hate’s Bush too, and that makes him ok
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
you realize it makes no real no diff if you are R, D or Intelligent, Bush has screwed the pooch and we are all going to pay the price for decades
Posted by: Ricahrd | September 7, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
The news media summary implies Rumsfeld should be punished for his role in Iraq but the actual transcript refers to Rumsfeld as a Vietnam war criminal and tells truthfull that the same guys have been ruling and ruining what is best about the United States for decades with different figureheads. I’m not certain the person who wrote the news media summary bothered to read the transcript because that’s a big error in reporting.
Posted by: theduke | September 7, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Seems like the only folks who don’t see that the liberal commenters in here are nodding their agreement with the (alleged) words of bin Laden are the same liberal commenters that are nodding in agreement. It also seems that they’re hanging their heads in shame at bin Laden’s admonishment at their failure to be effective enemies of his enemy — i.e., the United States of America.
Posted by: Vecino | September 7, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
WOW – sounds like a viable dark-horse candidate for the dem’s. Obama Who? I’ll take the tax cuts – ehh but I still want my Freedom icehole.
All you “conservatives” who’re going to vote strictly democrat next round, were never conservative – you and your ilk just don’t get it because your either secular puppets or liberal religionists that don’t wanna o f f e n d anyone. Oh yeah I know about that “all fudementalism is the same” tripe, but christians only knock on doors – not force citizens to convert or DIE (in Egypt right now “knock of death” is being perpetrated on many innocent non-radical islamic people.
Posted by: kenneth burch | September 7, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
These are all amusing comments. When do the adults get to post?
Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
How many Marines does it take to lower the flag? None, it takes Congress to do that…
Posted by: Beryl Ives | September 7, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
This is all a load of bull, someone trying to have fun. This is a waste of time.
Posted by: loadof bull | September 7, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Liberalism – a threat to humanity
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
there is no left/ right anymore. wake up and listen to alex jones!
Posted by: tom | September 7, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
jben, the transcript is in it’s entirety…it’s a five page .pdf file…damn, Americans are stupid…
Posted by: Ozzy Ozbent | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Sounds like the faxed talking points from Howard Dean.
Posted by: Engineer | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Kill ‘em all and let God sort them out!
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
UM JIM JONES why don’t you read the dern thing…THE TRANSCRIPT IS ON HERE…YOU HAVE TO CLICK THE LINK YOU MORON
Posted by: Krissyp045 | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Wow, Osama is all about low taxes and religion? I never knew he was Republican. Go figure.
Posted by: Texas John | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
who would have thought six years after murdering thousands of americans, UBL would still be sitting around thumbing his nose at us…heckuva a job Bush…”he can run, but he can’t hide”…after six years the mail at his last known address in Tora Bora must be piling up…why did we divert troops away from Afghanistan again…oh, that’s right, to attack a country that had nothing to do with 9/11…then push it into civil war like our V.P. knew would happen 10 years earlier…
Posted by: jeb | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
WOW – sounds like a viable dark-horse candidate for the dem’s. Obama Who? I’ll take the tax cuts – ehh but I still want my Freedom icehole.
All you “conservatives” who’re going to vote strictly democrat next round, were never conservative – you and your ilk just don’t get it because your either secular puppets or liberal religionists that don’t wanna o f f e n d anyone. Oh yeah I know about that “all fudementalism is the same” tripe, but christians only knock on doors – not force citizens to convert or DIE (in Egypt right now “knock of death” is being perpetrated on many innocent non-radical islamic people.
Posted by: meridian_poe | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
I am so sick and tired of people bashing the Iraq war.
Here is my message to UBL: Please keep sending your cronies against our trained killers in Iraq. For every one you might happen to luckily pick off we will kill 100 fold. The minute it gets quiet in Iraq, I will start worrying that you are going to attack innocents on our homeland. Keep up the good work you f*&3ing coward.
Posted by: Pk | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
From UBL speech.
Death to Steven Jobs!
See if I ever pay full price for a Iphone again!
Where do I get my rebate?
Posted by: Jack | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Wow Democrats! You finally have someone on your side that thinks like you do! How great it must feel to know that you guys want the same things as Bin Laden!!
You should be ashamed…
Oh, and Hey U! It is Democrat party. “A party full of Democrats.” Not a party full of Democratics. Democratic describes a type of government philosophy. Democratic is an adjective. Democrat is a noun. And the party now seems to have grown by admitting one more linke-minded individual in Bin Laden.
Posted by: Chad | September 7, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
He Who Must Not Be Named
Looks like we have a video by He Who Must Not Be Named, according to ABC.
Quite frankly, I could care less about what he has to say. It is nothing new.
Mr. Not Be Named did, however, get me thinking about Christianity and Islam. After all, I hear…
Posted by: Ora et Labora | September 7, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
UBL himself said it – the Dhims are working for him – they share the same goal; the destruction of democracy in America and the defeat of our soldiers.
Liberals ARE the enemy within!
Posted by: jdawg | September 7, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Truth is OBL is having to earn a living as a ghost speech writer for most of the Democrat Presidential candidates.
Posted by: Ajax | September 7, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Any chance that we get an independent authentication/verification of the tape? Or is that “emboldening the enemy”?
Posted by: JKap | September 7, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Jeff,
What is the number that you consider “droves of citizens dying halfway around the world”?
If I remember correctly, we really just surpassed the number that died on 9/11 on our own soil. And of course you do not mention the number of Psychotic Muslims we have sent to their “reward” by being over there. How hard is it to understand the benefit of not having to fight them over here? Do you think if we had done nothing they would have been content to stop at 9/11. That would have been an irresponsible and idiotic response.
By the way, I think you will be surprised how that supposed conservative minority magically grows back to its normal size come election time.
Posted by: Stephen Fry | September 7, 2007, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I invite “THEM” to become Christians before they all go to eternal damnation in the fiery pit of hell. What they need is a little democracy but, apparently, they are afraid of giving choice to their people and their women freedom!
Posted by: Jesse | September 7, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I think Bin Laden is definitely frightened that the Republicans will not get elected next time around. He needs the Republicans in power because the actions that they take lead ordinary muslims to become radicalized. Without Bush and his ilk Bin Laden loses support in the Middle East.
Posted by: Lynn | September 7, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Time to go into IRAN!!! Lets Kill the root.
Posted by: Engineer | September 7, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
ben laden is good for the democratic party… he should run for president and enter one of their debates…. sounds like one of them.. biden and clinton!!!He is good for their party
Posted by: ken | September 7, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
George W Bush is THE BEST PRESIDENT this country has seen in DECADES. It’s a shame Bush got left to fix all the problems Clinton left behind. Clinton has really screwed this country up. I’m glad we have a President that can do what needs done regardless of how whimpy the democrats are.
Posted by: Ken | September 7, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
ben laden is good for the democratic party… he should run for president and enter one of their debates…. sounds like one of them.. biden and clinton!!!He is good for their party
Posted by: ken | September 7, 2007, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
…DEMOCRATS STILL BELIVE…
….THAT BIN LADIN ATTACKED THE USA ON 09/11 BECAUSE WE INVADED IRAQ!….
THEY ACTUALLY BELIVE THAT!
Posted by: OsamaBinDemocrat | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I just saw where this flake is actually out-polling the Democrat Candidates, the Clinton hit machine has to take care of this! They don’t want democracy, they want communism, not Islam. And the last people to talk to about taxes is a Dem. They never met a tax they didn’t like.
Posted by: RJ | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Why are we giving him so much free publicity and air time?!
Someone please explain this to me.
Posted by: seriously? | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
UBL says there’s “no taxes in Islam.” Neither is there in Christianity or Judaism. Or any other faith, as far as I know. The West has the Beatles, iMACs and Ferraris. What’s he got again?
Posted by: Jack | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
That Osama has a better understanding of the geo-political situation around the globe than the average White House
flunkie (Rice,Bolten,Rove,Snow,Matalin
are just a few examples) strikes me as
almost hysterically funny. He is always outsmarting/mocking/taunting the feckless/clueless/incompetent Bush Administration to comedic levels.
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I watch and hear the news everyday. I read comments like these that are posted by people. I can’t help but wonder how this country will survive. We have become weak, dependent, lazy, ignorant and ultra sensitive to all the wrong things. And what’s worse is that the political parties, the media, the pundits and the politicians keep it all stirred up to serve their selfish purposes. We have taken our eye off the ball America and we are vulnerable. We are at risk of running the whole thing right into the ground, of squandering away an incredible opportunity that was paid for with blood, sweat and tears. Despite the gains we have made and the wrongs that we have righted since the 60s, I am ashamed of what we have become. From what I see on the TV and hear on the radio honor, decency, integrity, descretion, discipline, ultruism, and common sense all seem to be in short supply. Forget global warming folks, this country won’t last long enough in it’s present form to worry about it.
Posted by: Wade Nelson | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Sounds like Hillary wrote his speech. This is why I will ALWAYS vote Republican.
Posted by: Hector | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
After 9/11, bin Laden received sharp criticisms from Islamist scholars that dealt with the al-Qaeda chief’s failure to satisfy several religious requirements pertinent to waging war. The critique focused on three items: (1) insufficient warning; (2) failure to offer Americans a chance to convert to Islam; and (3) inadequate religious authorization to kill so many people. Bin Laden accepted these criticisms and in mid-2002 began a series of speeches and actions to remedy the shortcomings and satisfy his Islamist critics before again attacking in the United States.
Think he’s not making sure his checklist is complete this time??
Posted by: mike | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
WOW – HE SPEAKS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY LINE. AMAZING.
Posted by: stinkypete | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
thanks OBL, but I’ll continue to pay taxes instead of feeling obligated to strap a bomb on and kill some of those darn Jews and the people that like them, okay?
Posted by: Sean | September 7, 2007, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
This Bin Laden guy is right about mostly everything.
Bush is retarded, americans are stupid and the invasion is costing a ton.
I kinda like him. bush is such a idiot the stupid prick made the usa the most hated country in the world.
Posted by: Billie Bob | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Wow!! I cannot believe the anti-americanism that is allowed to be posted on this site. To you people that are spoon-fed the anti-american liberal media bias, you need to get a clue. read something else for a change, get a second oppinion.
Our prestigous, most powerful and glorious country is nothing to be upset about. Terrorism is REAL! OBL is REAL! These people will try anything to kill us and convert us to their perverted version of Islam. Iraq is a front to fight this fanatical idealism. They are here and they are waiting. All you people can sit behind your nice computer, in your air conditioned houses and talk such a big game. I just hope that when the time comes again, you can come back to the right side of the isle and become A TRUE AMERICAN!! GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.!
Posted by: steve | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
IT IS AMAZING THAT WE ARE STILL LISTENING WITH ATICIPATION WHAT THIS MAN HAS TO SAY. THE PURPOSE OF THE U.S. TO GO INTO IRAQ WAS TO GET TO AL-QAIDA AND OBL NOT SADDAM… BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY WE STILL CAN NOT OR WILL NOT FIND OBL. WHY? MAYBE IF WE DID HALF THE PROBLEM WILL BE OVER. THE OTHER HALF IS THE SO CALLED DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ… ARE YOU KIDDING? THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT DEMOCRACY IS AND DO NOT WANT TO KNOW,EVER. FIND BIN LADEN AND LEAVE IRAQ WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT NEED OUR ATTENTION THIS WAR HAS CAUSED US ENOUGH LIVES AND GRIEF.
Posted by: ELLIE | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I find it interesting that OBL would take a shot at the tax and mortgage situation in the US. He seems to be condemning the whole of America, yet he is attempting to recruit new followers among it’s citizens with his rhetoric about joining Islam.
I would like to propose a different point of view on the beard, it doesn’t quite look like a fake beard to me. Rather it looks like he had to shave his beard, perhaps to sneak out of the mid-east. Now he is regrowing his beard, which is why this beard is shorter and obviously dyed.
OBL is without a doubt in my mind still alive. If he were dead it would be impossible to hide, his death would have created a vacuum in the world of AQ, there would have been a power grab and AQ would have a new leader to give video taped speeches.
Posted by: knox harrington | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Bush created Bin Laden, and destroyed America. Watch, Listen and Learn ,Sheeple! Reasearch the name “Tim Osman”, and open your minds to reality.
Posted by: slimjim | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Everbody should STOP and look at the big picture. Americans are consistently having the wool pulled over their eyes by our government – with the help of the media of course. War makes money. It is in the big corporation’s interest to prolong war. The ultimate goal being to get the whole of humanity into thinking like us – Americans. Pay taxes. Isn’t that why we declared our independence from the tyranny of Britain? This nations forefathers would roll in their graves if they knew what this nation has become and to know that we condone the control we have given our government of the most basic freedom that we possess – our minds.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
To defeat terrorism, liberalism must also be defeated.
Liberals, don’t let the international airport door hit you in the butt on the way out.
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Bin Laden /Clinton 2008!
Hes got the Dem Platform down, and he is actually brighter than the current slate of Democrat Presidential contenders!
You Libtards just need to convert to Islam and he will run!
LMAO
Posted by: dlbizzz | September 7, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
if it talks like a liberal than it probably is one. he sounds like he could run on the same ticket as hillary.
Posted by: JM1656 | September 7, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Weekend at Osama’s? Is it me or does he look dead in that picture? Pumped full of embalming fluid or something. Black beard? Is he a pirate? Come on! The person in that picture is dead.
Posted by: Paul | September 7, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
To Jan:
It is nice to think that that will always be the case. I just don’t want to wake up some day 50 years from nnow and watch my grandchildren forced to convert to a religion that they don’t believe in out of fear for their lives (nor do I want to see a solid theocratic government instituted in our country). Perhaps the peaceful Muslims you are referring to are exactly that, but these bin Laden types have announced their intention to try to their dying days to bring the world under Islamic law or destroy it (that is, convert or die). How can you honestly tell what intentions are in someone’s heart? We all know politicians can lie, as can anyone. We’ve discovered that a few of those who we look up to are some of the worst people out there (i.e., some priests, some ministers, some politicians, some coaches, some teachers, etc.). How do you know that a group of peaceful Muslims in public aren’t in secret waiting to force you to convert? It’s a 50/50 chance that many aren’t willing to take for the sake of their posterity. This kind of suspicion all the time sucks, but it is a fact of life. Maybe if BOTH sides practiced the “live and let live” principle, then maybe things would be different.
It’s a nice thought, but we are far from Utopia. We always will be because all people are different and have their own unique personalities and preferences. So long as one person’s preference is another person’s dislike, there will always be conflict, even if only in their hearts and minds.
Posted by: Me | September 7, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
To all those Conspiracy Theorists out there: Anyone who believes that the 9-11 attacks were “an inside job” is a fool. You give the government WAY too much credit. You think that the same federal government that screwed up the response to Hurricane Katrina was capable of executing and covering up a scheme of this grand scale?! Get real. Bush’s “deer in the headlights” expression upon being given the news of the 9-11 attack is all the proof I need to know that he was just as surprised as the rest of us.
Posted by: Ann | September 7, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I hope “Joshua” is happy that his interview with the British journalist was used as propaganda by the biggest a-hole on the face of the Earth.
Besides the “convert to Islam!” thing, I don’t see much difference between what Osama says and what the left says everyday. “Neocon!” “Rumsfeld!” “War of aggression!” “Kyoto Protocol!”
Maybe Osama will be on the Democratic ticket. He’d probably win a few blue states.
Posted by: Lonnie Don Ronnie | September 7, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I think it’s cute when liberals get all flustered when someone leaves out the “ic” from Democratic. I think there is plenty of “ic” in the Democrat party to go around. Bin Laden and every other wacky lib job are peas in a pod. The natterings are equally incoherent.
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Thats why we need to elect Osama Husein Obama as Pres so that he can swoop down from the skies with his big,dumbo sized ears and personally destroy bin Laden with his RedDopperDiaperBaby Commie thunderbolts from his eyes! Long live Stalin and Mao! Vote Democrat! Hate the Cowboys but love bathroom foot tapping! Yeah Baby!!!
ps Hillary has fat calves!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Bin Laden = Bush Hatred = democRATs
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
Ozzy Ozbent
I pulled that page down 3 times, 5 mins ago and it was a single page-! but at least it’s working now.
Don’t need these idiots telling us what it says and when its rambling.
Posted by: jben | September 7, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
It looks like Bin Laden is the Fred Thompson of the Democratic Party! I wonder when he’ll release his formal announcement for his candidacy?
Posted by: Christine | September 7, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
osamas been dead for years. this is just another black op. Watch terror storm on google video!
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
wow did someone really just say the war in Iraq has diminished the threat of terrorism on U.S. soil–look the spectular attacks pulled off by OBL took years and $$ to pull off–what we’ve really achived by the half ass execution of the war for oil in Iraq is to push 100s of 100os, perhaps a few million of disturbed and agonzinly poor muslim towards extreme Islam
it pains me that we have not taken care of business in Afg and Pak yet
Posted by: richard | September 7, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Maybe UBL can get a talk show on MSNBC. I think he would fit in well right after Olbermann!
Posted by: Kevin Ferguson | September 7, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
If I had read his comments without knowing the source, I would have sworn they were from one of the Democrat candidates. Isn’t it sad that the Democrat party and Al Quaeda have so many beliefs in common?
Posted by: MrReasonable | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I wonder if he will appear at the next democrat debate? he’s a shoe in for vp if hillary takes the nomination. he’s straight down the democratic party line!
Posted by: Larry | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
NEWSFLASH!
BIN LADIN TO APPEAR AS A NEW FRONT RUNNER DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE AT NEXT DEMOC-RAT DEBATE!
Posted by: OsamaYerMama | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
You are all fukn insane. Please start taking your medication.
Posted by: davdjb | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Leave out the convert to Islam stuff and this guy sounds like some professors I’ve had. Saying the war in Iraq is a war fought for the benefit of corporations, praising Chomsky, using “neocon”, and calling into question the innocence of the victims of 9-11 by justifying their deaths by the actions of the US after the fact. Ward Churchill would be proud. Talking about the impotence of the Dems to use their power to end the war, this guy needs to speak at the next YearlyKos, he makes as much sense as anyone there.
Posted by: Randy | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Honestly, some of the postings by you liberals is more scary than OBL. Some of the things you guys say is really wacko…out there in lala land. You can never win the ideas war with such insame beliefs.
Posted by: JAS | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Some of you still don’t get it. “Embrace Islam.” Sounds like he wants a theocracy here in the U.S. and sounds like he is willing to kill more innocent Americans to attain this goal. People, wake up and smell the bakliva. These muslims want to kill each and every one of us, they are not kidding. This has nothing to do with politics but most of you fell for the rhetoric as usual. Anything or anyone criticizing Bush is fine with you. This all has to do with slavery. Being enslaved to a violent and false religion, owing 2.5 tithes to a false god – aka: allah. This guy is a fanatic and he is dangerous to our entire way of life. He and his followers need to go. Now!
Posted by: Candy | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Whats with all the ad hominem attacks? Bush this, Dems this, and all kinds of other crap. Corruption is in both parties. So are the lies. They are two sides of the same coin.
Radical Islamists will probably come after us here, once we withdraw from Iraq and other areas. I wonder what excuse they will use this time, when they attack us. Once a nuke explodes here, we will all wake up to the bitter truth
Posted by: armenia4ever (Lucas Temple) | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Why is Al Qaida complaining about Global Warming?
Because….
Kyoto = weakening of the west
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
i think this tape was concocted by abc,it just doesn’t relate to what is or has taken place.pre election b.s.at best.
Posted by: larry williams | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I think it’s a phoney set up. Timing is too conicidental.
To hear the government conclude that it must have been made ‘mid-August’, because it refers to Japan’s Hiroshima memorials is ludicrous.
They are stupid to think we are so stupid.
Posted by: morley | September 7, 2007, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
methinks the preacher be heavily tarnished
Posted by: craig | September 7, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Sounds like he is running for the Democrat nomination for president. I guess we can see a Osama/Obama ticket for the Dems
Posted by: George Albert | September 7, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Ron Paul is the only one who can beat hillary!
Posted by: tom | September 7, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
And in the end, all across the land, the conservatives rose up against the democrats, and the democrats rose up against the conservatives. The moral of this story is that they did not need terrorism to take down their great nation. All they had to do was create fear and confusion, pitting brother against brother, and the people themselves made sure it all ended. The End.
Posted by: Sandra | September 7, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
At least we know where the dums are getting their talking points. OBL is a nutbar and so are the liberal idiots who think we are responsible for global terrorism. Bin Laden has made it clear – we can become Muslims or we must go. Personally, if I’m gonna go, I’d rather do it swinging.
Posted by: amber | September 7, 2007, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
f osama and f islam too
Posted by: d | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I’m voting for osama. When his bunch wins, no more liberals. America will be cleaned out of the degenerates, leftist loonie birds, ACLU, Hillary will look great in a Burkha. So all you leftist little girls, rejoice you may get what you want.
Posted by: guiseppe46 | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
f osama and f islam too
Posted by: d | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Gee, did George pick-up this tape in Iraq on his way to Austrialia? Everytime there is an election they bring this meat puppet Bin Laden out, interesting no? Maybe he is a Disney anamatron stored in Dick Cheney’s closet…things that make ya go hummm?
Posted by: Sandra | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Listen to all the Lib Wackos claiming that Bin Laden isnt real or this is a Republican plot!
It must be pretty embarassing to have Bin Laden sounding like a Democrat huh Libs?
But as normal no amount of reality can change twisted little Liberal minds, can it?
Thats why, like Bin Laden, you are despised by real Americans.
Posted by: dlbizzz | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Take the Oil fields, kill any one who stands in our way, and then sell all of the different factions weapons so they can kill each other.
Thats the way to keep the middle east wackos and extremists out of our hair and our economy strong.
The military is already there use them for something worthwhile.
Otherwise get the heck out. Then after all the different factions kill each other and the whole middle east in in flames, we can go in and take the oil fields.
Posted by: JoMahMah | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
lol trade democracy for islam – no thanks bin laden, burkhas don’t lik very falttering on me. how is this guy even still alive?? oh, right, THANKS BUSH.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Looks like ol Osama has been dipping in the heroin he sells to heroin addicts in Europe and the rest of the world in order to fund his little jihadists. Man, this guy’s brain is fried.
Posted by: Harold | September 7, 2007, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I can see it now! The Democrat ticket: Obama / Osama
Posted by: chad | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Foolish Americans. I know how much you love taxes. You are willing to sell your souls for tax breaks. To be honest, I’m glad you’re in Iraq. It helps my cause.
Posted by: bin Laden | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
This blog is so terribly sad: Lefties and Righties arguing over philosophy instead of storming Washington and demanding accountability from BOTH of our useless political parties! The people in power are our true enemies, because all most of them care about is the financial interests of the corporations who got them their jobs! Wake up before it’s too late! Much of what UBL says is true. The fact that it’s him saying it doesn’t change that. When did one’s ideaology become more important that what is best for the US and the world? When did belittling those with whom you disagree become more important than working together for everyone’s good? This stupid, childish partisan bickering is what got the United States into the mess it’s in now, and it’s not going to start getting better until we acknowledge who our REAL enemies are and make them accountable. I hope this happens before we become even more of a police state.
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
All I have to say is that the liberals should feel proud of themselves. Everything out of Osama’s mouth is everything they say. Garbage. The question you have to ask now is who hates America more? Osama or the Democrats that dictate his hate for everything good this country stands for.
Posted by: Madeline Albright | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Am I the only one who thinks its weird he is wearing a tank-top/wifebeater/guinea tee under his vestment? Doesnt he hate all things western?
-P
Posted by: Paulie | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
If you think that video is new, you are an idiot!
Posted by: tom | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Oh yeah. Global Warming is FAKE!!!
maybe your boy Gore will let us airpool in his old a$$, fuel inefficient, private jet. Hypocryte! yeah sure, don’t worry Gore I’ll walk so you can fly. I think you owe me some cash for my carbon offsets. jagoff. oh I forget he buys those from his own companies. how convienent.
Posted by: steve | September 7, 2007, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Fence around the middle east anyone?
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Wade,
Idiots have been a part of this country from its inception. Do not take comments on these blogs or the media so seriously. As for America, we will be just fine, there have always been tough times and we have always gotten through them. The values of this country run deep and are not always obvious. The biggest error anyone could make is underestimating the American people regardless of who happens to occupy Washington.
Posted by: Hector | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Sounds like he is mixing the Koran with the Communist Manifesto.
Posted by: Ryan | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
post menopausal Hillary has to be a whole lot scarier to OBL than all but Freddy T
bonus–FT’s wife is a honey
Posted by: richard | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
what the heck is going on with the world? our taxes are higher. store prices are higher. gas is still high. everyone’s blaming the president for our problems. the majority of us voted for him. we shouldn’t sit here and talk like he ruined the country. it’s called “taking responsibility”. he’s trying to keep us from being attacked again. now i’m not saying against anyone but if we bring our troops home now after all we’ve put them through, iraq will probably attack again and our fighting will have all been for nothing. if we keep our troops there, a lot of them will probably die but that’s the risk these brave people are signing up for when they join our country’s defense system. we need to stay in iraq and get rid of the terrorism. we all know it’s wrong and has to be stopped but we’re always complaining about how the government handles things.i think we need to just quit complaining and support our president, government for freedom, and troops. they’ll come home when it’s the right time. now for bin laden can just go move to a spider hole like his dead little friend. i hate him and his little speaches. they’re getting boring and i’m sick of seeing his butt ugly face and since when did anyone dye their beard like that? he probably did it with spider guts. that’s what it looks like. he’s just like hillary clinton, trying to take over the world. “let the village raise the children” if you’ve ever heard of the way the iraqi people live, you know i’m right about this. in iraq, the people of the village help raise the children until they’re old enough to kill and join terrorist groups. clinton wants the same here. she thinks that cause she’s a woman, she’ll get feminist votes. i say ‘go for it! more power to ya’ but i just don’t agree with what she’s saying. her supporters just see that she’s not a guy while everyone actually looks at what the male polititions are saying. this way of government isn’t right. i say we find a politition like raegan and put him/her in the oval office. raegan did a good job taking care of our country. he’s not very famous as presidents go but at least he kept us safe. bush is trying but we need someone that CAN.
Posted by: We'reallgoincrazi | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
what the heck is going on with the world? our taxes are higher. store prices are higher. gas is still high. everyone’s blaming the president for our problems. the majority of us voted for him. we shouldn’t sit here and talk like he ruined the country. it’s called “taking responsibility”. he’s trying to keep us from being attacked again. now i’m not saying against anyone but if we bring our troops home now after all we’ve put them through, iraq will probably attack again and our fighting will have all been for nothing. if we keep our troops there, a lot of them will probably die but that’s the risk these brave people are signing up for when they join our country’s defense system. we need to stay in iraq and get rid of the terrorism. we all know it’s wrong and has to be stopped but we’re always complaining about how the government handles things.i think we need to just quit complaining and support our president, government for freedom, and troops. they’ll come home when it’s the right time. now for bin laden can just go move to a spider hole like his dead little friend. i hate him and his little speaches. they’re getting boring and i’m sick of seeing his butt ugly face and since when did anyone dye their beard like that? he probably did it with spider guts. that’s what it looks like. he’s just like hillary clinton, trying to take over the world. “let the village raise the children” if you’ve ever heard of the way the iraqi people live, you know i’m right about this. in iraq, the people of the village help raise the children until they’re old enough to kill and join terrorist groups. clinton wants the same here. she thinks that cause she’s a woman, she’ll get feminist votes. i say ‘go for it! more power to ya’ but i just don’t agree with what she’s saying. her supporters just see that she’s not a guy while everyone actually looks at what the male polititions are saying. this way of government isn’t right. i say we find a politition like raegan and put him/her in the oval office. raegan did a good job taking care of our country. he’s not very famous as presidents go but at least he kept us safe. bush is trying but we need someone that CAN.
Posted by: We'reallgoincrazi | September 7, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Is this Bin Laden or Howard Dean? Same message…
Posted by: Cary Clay | September 7, 2007, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
We need a good old civil war to get rid of 33% of the commie, liberal scum that are making America unsafe and 33% of the scum bag conservitives that are pushing for open boraders with Mexico. The trucks are rolling today. Hippies stink. Vote Independant.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I am laughing at the tape because he sounds like Al Gore and his bunch of loonies .. complaining about the dreaded “neocons” and wanting to talk about “global warming and the kyoto accords”.. OMG you guys are funny.
Posted by: Scott | September 7, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Oh yea . I heard this the other night from
OBAMA, wait, NO, OSAMA. wait. OBAMA
Oh hell whats the difference.
Posted by: tim Grey | September 7, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Oh yeah. Global Warming is FAKE!!!
maybe your boy Gore will let us airpool in his old, fuel inefficient, private jet. Hypocryte! yeah sure, don’t worry Gore I’ll walk so you can fly. I think you owe me some cash for my carbon offsets. jagoff. oh I forget he buys those from his own companies. how convienent.
Posted by: steve | September 7, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
There can be no mistake, Islam hates liberals FAR more than she hates conservatives. There is nothing more disgusting to an ultra-neocon like bin Laden, than a sniveling liberal. But of course the REAL enemy, the strong enemy, is the lover of freedom. Thereby, in the Arab mind, “the enemy (libs, socialism) of my enemy (conservatism, freedom) is my friend.”
Islam, and liberals, one and the same.
Posted by: Fezziwig | September 7, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
“what we’ve really achived by the half ass execution of the war for oil in Iraq is to push 100s of 100os, perhaps a few million of disturbed and agonzinly poor muslim towards extreme Islam”
What planet do you liberals live on? How easy you forget that the Islamo- Fascists took down the Towers BEFORE Iraq. Our embassies were bombed in Africa BEFORE Iraq. The USS Cole was bombed BEFORE Iraq. Islamo-Fascism was alive and well BEFORE Iraq.
The more I hear from liberals, the more I am convinced they suffer from mental defects.
Posted by: Captain America | September 7, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
The democrats could not raise taxes high enough to make me embrace islam
Posted by: smf | September 7, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
No taxes only death…….. Find the area we think he’s at and NUKE it.
Posted by: dan driewer | September 7, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Al-Qaida wants war. Everything they do is to try and incite us to invade one spot or another. They believe the invasion by the West will unify Muslims using a common enemy. The leaders of Al-Qaida may be many things, but they are not stupid. Since their organization is so decentralized, they know a conventional war could never work. They have no citizens who could rise up and depose them. Instead, every country go into conflict with, the citizens will try to rise and depose us, the invading force. They knew 9/11 would suck us into the Middle East, into Afghanistan which is the modern equivalent of a land war in Asia. And they know anything that Bin Laden says, we will knee jerk into doing the exact opposite. Assume these guys are at least as smart as we are.
Posted by: Jeremy | September 7, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
It reminds me of the Star Trek episode where all the people listen to the voice coming from the wall and they are mindless robot slaves until Capt Kirk destroyed the wall and the computer that was hiding behind it telling everyone what to do (the computer being created thousands of years ago by the neo-cons of said planet). Did you see the Star Trek where the little midget on the spaceship was sending messages disguised as the bald-headed scary alien with pointy teeth. Classic Wizard of Oz analogy (pay no attention to the wirey little neo-con behing the curtain! I am the great and powerful OBL!!!)
-P
Posted by: Paulie | September 7, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
OMG!!!! He sounds like the Poster Boy for the Democrat Party.
This could end up doing far more damage to the Democrats then one could ever imagine.
I can see it now during the debates…”Senator Clinton, do you agree with Osama Bin Laden, that the Democrats should end this war and pull out of Iraq?..and should you agree that America convert to Islam, would you be the first to do so, Ma’am?” Dear God!
“You are either with us, or your with the terrorists” -George W. Bush
Sounds to me that the Democrats have a new spokeperson (OBL).
Posted by: Mike Mundy, TX | September 7, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
well, i wonder why mr. bin laden cares about global warming, when all he wants to do is destroy it and all the infidels in it?
Posted by: mef | September 7, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Osama = Obama.
Posted by: Fezziwig | September 7, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
patriots are going to take back this country from bought off liberals and neocons!
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Wake up America. We have resorted to fighting each other! The President is the President for no more than eight years. If you don’t like it, pick another Country to live in because this is how our Country works. You can’t change the rules just because you don’t like or trust the guy. I didn’t trust Clinton The Molester but he was the Commander in Chief and I’m sworn to obey his commands. Listen, what we’re doing in Iraq is a noble thing. We had no idea it would turn the way it did but remeber, America declared in 1998 that regime change in Iraq was policy. For God sakes stop the bickering because we’re tearing each other apart from within. Enough already.
Posted by: Two tours later | September 7, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
From a soldier, Bin Laden who have gotten thousands killed with your war on the west. We are kicking your ass and the cowards on the left in the USA would pull for Martians if they invaded from another planet. To all you cowards on the left cause yes you are cowards, and pathetic ones at that believing against your own country and gov’t just because it is not your party in charge. I have been to two mass graves in Iraq with women and children in one and men in the other. One mass grave “Kurdish” in the North and a Shiite one in the South. Bush is a hero over there, There are Iraqi children named George Bush! Will there ever be a hillary or Bill Clinton (Hell No). Majority of military with more then one tour despise you libs. To bad Bush can’t go for another 4 I would still vote for him.
Posted by: CW2Pilot | September 7, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Liberalism. The ideology of failure, weakness, stereotyping, tyranny, and doom.
Conservatism, that is, freedom and capitalism, is the light.
Posted by: Fezziwig | September 7, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
VOTE REPUBLICAN or Vote Bin Laden…it is clear to everyone in America….except Libtards of course.
Posted by: dlbizzz | September 7, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
JAMAC,
Nope. Trying to make a point. Obviously it was lost on you.
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
It’s good to see the Osama has the embraced Just for Men product line.
Posted by: Shawn | September 7, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
OBL is dead. This is so clearly not him it’s laughable. Remember the GI doll? People fell for that one too. The only thing that’s real is the threat. No matter what the ignorant and uninformed haters want to believe, the threat is real. Do you not understand that they want us either like them or dead? I am stunned at the ignorance and cluelessness of so many Americans. It’s truly almost as frightening as these Jihadist nutballs.
Posted by: Nemo | September 7, 2007, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I doubt this tape even came from Osama bin Laden. Personally, we can’t even be sure he’s even alive. It’s not like this guy was very healthy six years ago, his illness required ongoing hospital care. Kidney problems of his type just doesn’t get better, only worse.
Posted by: Deborah | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Hey,
Could anyone ask Osie if Islam offers universal healthcare too. Oh boy!
Posted by: Hector | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
No taxes in Islam? I’m sold!!! Take me to the nearest mosque where I can start making myself holy enough to somehow win over Gods approval and make it to heaven. I’d rather put my faith in the Rock, Yashua. At least that way I do have to pay taxes, but I dont have to pay the price for my penalties. No wonder our great nation was founded on principles from Judeo-Christian scriptures, principles that have provided liberties for over 200 years. We must stand strong and keep the faith in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It seems as though only tradegy brings us back to Him, until time allows us to fall away again. Lets not keep falling, else people like OBL stand up and replace us. Look at the UK…I’d say they have their hands full with this radical Islamic jihadist problem. And they are the “enlightened” countries???
Posted by: Dan | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
***WOW***
I’m SHOCKED that OBL is acting as a spokesmen for the democratic party!
What a sad state of the party we are in when OBL screams the same crap that comes out of our leaders.
I’m flipping parties after this! If he is supporting democrats, we have a serious problem.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
For those who say they fear our government and not the terrorists: no one is making you stay in this country. You are foolish not to fear terrorists. Elect a democrat and watch our national defense become non-existent as it was in the 90′s.
Posted by: Mike C. | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
PATRICIA IRELAND, ROSIE O’DONNEL, NANCY PELOSI AND THE DIXIE CHICKS WILL LOOK GREAT IN BURKAS!
Posted by: OsamaBinLaughin | September 7, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
alot of soldiers know they are fighting not for the US, but for global corperations!
Posted by: tom | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Re “To conclude,” bin Laden says, “I invite you to embrace Islam.” He goes on to say: “There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.”
————
I DON’T BELIEVE IT!!! Even Bin Laden’s running for the Republican nomination for President!
On 2.5 per cent in taxes? There goes the Republican donors — unless Rudi , Mitt or Fred pledge to make it 2 per cent.
Wadda you say guys? Going once. Going twice…
Posted by: Don Williams | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Meanwhile, we’re opening up our country to Mexican truckers with no concern about the consequences: highway safety, drug smuggling, human trafficking, environmental impact, and our own truckers jobs at stake.
Posted by: tadlad | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
I’m surprised ABC is even covering this story seeing as how the last time we had an Osama video, before the ’04 election, they neglected to report how Osama’s message was an endorsement of Kerry.
And it’s getting harder and harder now to tell the difference between the rhetoric of bin Laden and MoveOn.org.
Posted by: Trey | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
To BigBarry’s comment: Fix the economy?? Aside from a few years (1999-2001), you’d have to go back to 1969 to find a lower unemployment rate. The stock market has gained 30% since Bush took control, which is quite an accomplishment considering the market was in the midst of a death spiral when he took office as we were technically in a recession. Even the dems know better than to try to play the bad economy card. The economy is great, and if you don’t have a job now, you’ll probably never have one.
Posted by: Dave B | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
two things one should know before starting a war.
(1) Know your enemy, and
(2) be prepared to die for your war.
Bin Laden started a war 9/11,
Now he must die.
Bibleguy, Pittsburgh, Pa, USA, I voted for George Bush twice, and will vote for whoever states that they will finish the war.
Posted by: bibleguy | September 7, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Right on OBL. At least he has the courage to speak the truth, unlike the dems who will say anything to win office.
Posted by: robert | September 7, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
They guy is a joke,like we in the U.S.A are going to even listen to what he says.,but as far as the U.S.A I a support the president of the U.S.A,and that Osama can go to you no were.We will get every one of them radical people over there and here,or were ever it may be.Because god is on our side because we don’t kill Innocent people like they do.You should not even post it at all.
Posted by: Bob hankinson | September 7, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I think it is so idiotic that we have a President who keeps his word. You may disagree with him but he has done what he said. All the Demo-islamo-facists is want to remain in power. There agenda changes with the wind. Just as the North Vietnamese relied on the media to propogate their doctrine so are the terrorists. Can’t we all just get along??? Yeah!! We can if you don’t mind having your throat cut. Just look at their recruiting video on Mike Evans web site.
Posted by: Victor | September 7, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Many democrats refer to bin laden as a “freedom fighter” instead of a terrorist-murderer….that should tell you all you need to know.
http://www.thereisaway.us/
Posted by: apologist | September 7, 2007, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Is this guy running for office?
Global Warming.
Mortgage Crisis.
2.5% tax.
Grovel for Peace.
WTF?!?!
So far he seems like the Michael Moore kind of guy. Wonder where Osama stands on health care, gay marriage, and transfat.
Posted by: wow | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Guess what? My 4-year old daughter just came up, sat on my lap, pointed at the image of Bin Laden on the computer screen, smiled, and said “He’s taking a shower!” If only! Perhaps I should calmly reply, “No, Sweetie, he wants to kill you.”
Posted by: Mom in Florida | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
This is a phoney tape – the simplistic conclusions by this government validates the fact that they think the public is stupid enough to go on a feeding frenzy over it.
You prove them correct.
Posted by: morley | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Obama/Osama ’08!!!
Posted by: No Rino's | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
“Thanks to GWB, there is an incredibly effective terrorist training camp called ‘Iraq’.” Yeah right, trouble for those guys is the attrition rate is really severe. Nobody lives to make it to graduation.
BTW, do any of you libs remember what the “withdrawal plan” was for World War II?
Posted by: Bob Gardner | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Impeach Bush Now, end the national nightmare.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Bin Laden sounds downright sane and reasonable after one reads the leftwing moonbattery in the comments here.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
DEMOCRATS STILL BELIVE THAT BIN LADIN ATTACKED THE USA ON 09/11 BECAUSE WE INVADED IRAQ!
THEY ACTUALLY BELIVE THAT!
Posted by: OsamaBinLaughin | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 2008!
No other republican candidate matters. They are all dull and boring. FRED THOMPSON IS THE NEW JOHN WAYNE OF AMERICAN POLITICS.
Kick Ass and take names later!
Posted by: Mike M., TX | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
When Abu Garaib happened, liberals first got sexual gratification from the pictures, many of whom practice far more kinky sexual proceedures than that of the swine in the prison.
Soon after the lib was sexually satisfied with the images, his/her instinct was to quickly use it as a political tool to hurt their #1 enemy in the world, GW Bush.
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Okay, here it is….
Retarded Red Republicans you guys messed this country up. We were in a surplus when Bush entered office. Does anybody remember those surplus checks for like $400 that all the Americans received way back in 2001. I do. I thought elephants never forgot.
Also, Red is the color of commies last time I checked, not blue. OBL is simply another distraction, focus on the real problems. Our country is falling apart at home. If our foreclosure rate raises to something like 5-6% of the housing market we are dead in the water.
Have any of you traveled to Europe recently? The US dollar is in free fall and threatening to take the whole of the Global economy with it.
I’m sure this comment will cause a knee jerk response, but most likely the haters will skip this post because it’s too lengthy.
Posted by: knox harrington | September 7, 2007, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
With Norman Hsu in trouble now, it’s up to bin Laden to fund the Democratic party. Hillary I am sure will not turn down the money!!!!
Posted by: DJ | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Osama doesn’t need to do anything to destroy America, the neocons are doing it for him. Shrub has doubled the national debt to $9 trillion dollars, destoyed U.S. credibility and world standing, lied us into a war with no end, killed over 3,700 U.S. troops, maimed another 35,000 for life, sent all our good jobs to China and given us a $60 billion per month trade debt. If we pay off the national debt at a million dollars per day, it will take over 30,000 years. Who needs Osama when we’ve got Shrub?
Posted by: R.J. | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
He says that Jew and Christians live in peace in Muslim lands. They are not in any danger. In the same breath he says that America must convert?
Ahh yes the peaceful religion that embraces suicide bombers and deceipt as a means to an end. What load of crap.
Posted by: Captain America | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
For you BIGBARRYW….when you say fix the economy, I can only assume you mean improve on the 4 percent unemployment rate and the fastst growth profile in the past decade. Yeah, let’s get your boy Jimmy C. to fix it. I long for the days of double-digit interests rates. You silly man.
Posted by: Rick | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Yes..that all makes perfect sense…Let’s give up and allow this guy to do with us as he wishes…The us will definitely be a better place…
Posted by: james | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Vote Democrat!
We may not want to fight, but we can promise to retrieve your mangled cadaver after the next Islamic attact more effeciently than the terrible Neo-cons! Why, we might even make a resolution at the UN condemning any new attack upon our soil. That is if the muslims don’t get offended and theaten us, cause then we might wet our pinko panties and cry racism. ooooo, I’m scared!!!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
4 legs good… 2 legs better.
Posted by: Carlos | September 7, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
If Bin Laden is alive, why doesn’t he do a tape a week? Why wait 3 years? Where is the logic? Use your heads, people. You are being PLAYED.
Posted by: Jake | September 7, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
OBL knows how to work the american sap whether in the whitewash house or showing their idiocy in these posts. Check out ole JIM JONES so close to tanking he needs the koolaid drink to put himself in a slumber while his country gets the long overdue catharsis it needs to get rid of hypocritical no thinking republican bathroom tappers…Jake your tapper family calls for you
Posted by: daddy | September 7, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Re the comment “OBL is dead. This is so clearly not him it’s laughable. Remember the GI doll? People fell for that one too. ”
———–
Our intelligence agencies will be able to tell if it is Osama Bin Laden via voice frequency analysis.
What people “fall for” are nuts on the internet talking about things of which they know nothing.
Posted by: Don Williams | September 7, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Although the message between democRATs and Al Qaida is essentially the same, at least Al Qaida spokesmen seem more civilized than that of democRAT party spokesmen, or the liberals posting on this thread.
Posted by: lib8ter | September 7, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I now see the strong visual and intellectual resemblance between Hillary and Obama, wait a minute I meant Osama, yes thats it, Hillary, Osama and Obama, or was it Osama, Obama and Hillary damn this is complicated….
Posted by: vboscaino | September 7, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
..and it’s true what CW2 Pilot said. The Iraqi’s really are naming children George Bush. They love him and America.
Posted by: Two Tours Later | September 7, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
i see bush’s biggest fundraiser has surfaced again.
Posted by: pete | September 7, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
COME ON PEOPLE!! This is FAKE Bin Laden #3.
That is obviosly NOT Bin Laden, how does ones beard darken with age? Muslims don’t believe in hair dye, it would be very embarrassing for him to appear with his hair dyed.
Plus the factial structure is NOTHING like the Bin Laden from ’98 or ’02.
Posted by: dc | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
No taxes in Islam? Put this guy in the Republican primary!
He’s slightly left of Ron Paul on tax policy and slightly right of Sam Brownback on the role of God in government, and way to the right of McCain on the role of a strong military.
Wow, if we can only convert him to Christianity, the Democrats won’t stand a chance. Bin Laden/Cheney ’08
Posted by: Titus Pullo | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Islam is getting better looking day by day!!! We see how civilized the Islamic people and countries are… and how well they interact with each other in society. What a model ideology this Islam! Add to that 2.5% taxes and no mortgage payments and a heaven filled with thousands of virgins! I’d be a fool to turn down his invitation.
Oh, except it’s all a sham. “Convert or die” has been the Islamic motto ever since their founder set foot on the scene in 600′s A.D. That convert or die mentality is the only reason why Islam spread in those early days… and now, it’s primitive ways really do not set well with our global society.
I say “Evolve or die.”
Posted by: tadlad | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Jim Jones wrote:
“At least we know, once again, which party Al Qaida endorses.”
Since he seems to send out (assuming it’s him and that he’s not dead) tapes seemed time to help stir up support for the Repugs, I’d say that, yep, it’s clear he’s pro-Repugs.
Posted by: rjones2818 | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
“To those who say OBL is on the side of the Democrats, didn’t he basically call them impotent and imply they aren’t doing the will of those who voted them in, and in fact are doing the complete opposite of what they were voted in to do? Wow, that’s some glowing support from Osama!”
While I agree that the Democratic Party is impotent, listen to his words they are liberal talking points. At the very least guilt by association. At most Osama is a liberal!
Posted by: Captain America | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Fake Beard?
Naaahhh…
He just came back from Edward’s hair dresser.
Posted by: DaveS | September 7, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
THIS IS ALL FAKE, THERE IS NO AL QAEDA OR BIN LADEN. WAKE THE FVCK UP!
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
TERRORISTS LOVE THE WEAK DEMOCRAT TALKING POINTS, DON’T THEY?
PREVENT TERRORISM….THIS COUNTRY CAN’T BE STUPID ENOUGH TO BEND OVER FOR TERRORISTS BY VOTING DEMOCRAT
Posted by: dev rios | September 7, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
So is Bin Laden announcing his run for presidency on Leno too?
Posted by: MKKS | September 7, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
2.5% ? Where do I sign up? LMAO!!!!!
Posted by: Magua | September 7, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
General Tony McCauliffe’s reply to the German commander upon demand that he surrender at Bastogne, in ’44:
“Nuts.”
—
Mr. Been Hidin’?
“Nuts.”
Posted by: Bill K. | September 7, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
here’s the real mystery
how does Al Qaeda get away with breaking the U follows Q rule.
Posted by: knox harrington | September 7, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Even Osama Hates the Democrats
ABC News Jonathan Karl Reports: ABC News has obtained a transcript of the latest taped message from Osama bin Laden.
source: abcnews.com
Sources tell ABC News the tape, bin Ladens first message in three years, is approximately 30 minu…
Posted by: Conservative Wacko | September 7, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Voice frequency analysis has indicated that previous alleged bin Laden tapes FAKE. But You’d never hear in from the MSM in the US. Thank God for the Internet:
Swiss institute brands latest bin Laden tape a fake
November 29 2002
Paris: The latest audiotape statement attributed to Osama bin Laden is not authentic, according to a Swiss research institute.
The Lausanne-based Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence, IDIAP, said it was 95 per cent certain the tape does not feature bin Laden’s voice.
The review of the tape was commissioned by France-2 television and its findings were presented by the institute’s director, Professor Herve Bourlard, in a TV report.
Bourlard said the institute compared the voice on the tape, first aired two weeks ago on Al-Jazeera, an Arabic television network, with some 20 earlier recordings attributed to bin Laden.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/29/1038386299712.html
Posted by: Jake | September 7, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Aren’t “Bin Laden’s” comments just a bit too cleverly composed and meant to tweak those he seems to praise, like Democrats, to be taken seriously? I mean, just look at quotes like “Democrats: Does is ever bother you, even a little, that you agree with a mass murderer so much?” Just too useful to somebody, to be a coincidence…
Posted by: red reptile | September 7, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Another fake binLaden tape.
It looks like the Neocons are terrified of Ron Paul, and even scared of the loony left like Obama or Hillary.
So now we have binLaden supposedly talking about the economy, subprime mortgages, lower taxes, global warming, etc.
YEAH RIGHT!!!!
Posted by: Richard | September 7, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
impeach bush, vote for obl.
Posted by: t | September 7, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Why can’t we ask HIM to embrace Christianity? Seems fair.
Posted by: Linda | September 7, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Bin Laden’s comment below may be a flag or his way of telegraphing a nuclear incident of some sort on 9/11/2007.
“… just a few days ago, the Japanese observed the 62nd anniversary of the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by your nuclear weapons.” The anniversary was on August 6.
Posted by: Brendan | September 7, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I’ve never been more shocked in my life than to read all the comments on here about why America is the entity to fear. Bin Laden can trumpet all the words of warning he wants about “convert or die” and I’ve read more posts on here about how we should listen to what he’s saying than I can stomach. Bin Laden wants you Islamic…or dead. Quit trying to make Bush the bad guy when he’s one of the only ones still willing to do anything about it.
Posted by: Steve G | September 7, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
It seems I’ve hit the motherload! So THIS is where all you libral wackos hang out! I have heard of places like this but didn’t think they existed! If ABC were smart they would sell tickets to let people read through some of these comments. CASH COW!!!
btw…you ARE entitled to your own opinions. You are NOT entitled to your own facts. Go ahead and insult me, I won’t be back. You people scare me.
Posted by: CamTheMan | September 7, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Hey,
Can we stop fighting among ourselves- the enemy is Osama bin Ladin, or have some of you forgotten?
Posted by: Richard | September 7, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Bin Laden / Sheehan ’08 !!! With Chomsky as Sec of State.
Posted by: ProudLib | September 7, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Osama may have gotten a few things wrong. But Like Obama, I believe that the war was immoral and that our election of the democrats did nothing to remove us from this unjust war. I believe though, that Osama was wrong and Obama is right abouit taxes. We need to have the rich pay their fair share. The alms thing doesn’t work for minorities, women and children. Only white men would agree to alms. Possibly Gore, Hillary and Edwards. Just look at their charitable contributions. Osama and I are for Obama.
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
WOW! Nut jobs on both sides. It is very easy for the uninformed, which risk nothing for this country, to make such bold and idiotic statements. I am not a love (this Country) it or leave it type of person but love it or do something about it. You believe that there is a big government conspiracy, then run for office or become a congressional aid part time. Get involved and informed at a meaningful level.
If you think the War is run poorly then join the service so that you can see what it is like from the inside. If you are so passionate about your beliefs then do something about it. It is easy to make stupid or hateful statement when you risk nothing for this country.
Everyone should just step back and think “Do I contribute positively to this country”? If your answer is I pay taxes then you are a background member of this society. Maybe you should keep your divisive statements to yourself.
“The greatest Generation” is distinguished by the ideal that everyone should contribute and if you cannot then don’t impede those who do!
Posted by: F-16 Fighter Pilot | September 7, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
I’d actually like to read the verbatim transcript and arrive at my own conclusions. Why does this article point to an illegible pdf?
Posted by: David Geyer | September 7, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Is it me or does he not look like the Geico Caveman?
Posted by: JK | September 7, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
If you really think that places like Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon and Syria were NOT training camps before the USA occupied Iraq you really ought to try researching the thousands of pre 9/11/2001 articles about terrorist activities on http://www.google.com – wake up people Hammas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad may have done something even worse to the USA if they were not afraid of being invaded occupied by US forces. Islam Jihad hating Christians and Jews and whoever else wasnt Islamic this has been going on since the beginning of time. It isnt until 9/11 that it affected US citizens at home.
Do you remember back in the 80′s when Nightline on ABC used to show OBL on TV and he was a good guy working for the CIA & USA paid to fight the Soviets? I remember radicals screaming Allah-Akhbar back then too. It was when they stormed the embassy in Iran and took the 300 hostages. Pre-1980 Al-Qaeda (the database of OBL henchmen fighting the Soviets) was not our enemy. They sure are now though.
Posted by: Paulie | September 7, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
UNITED WE STAND. DIVIDED WE FALL.
OBL reads these posts.
Posted by: Two Tours Later | September 7, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
CamTheMan,
FACT: It’s liberal not libral.
How do you expect to beat UBL with your shoddy spelling?
Posted by: marcus | September 7, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
And the anti-gunners running for president want to take our firearms away from us HELL NO!!!!!! NOT WHILE OSAMAS MAMAS IS STILL ALIVE!!!!!! RichZ
Posted by: Rich Ziemies | September 7, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
How could he sound liberal? He agrees that we pay too much taxes, and believes that the government controls too much of our lives. Lower taxes, and smaller government sounds more like conservative to me.
Posted by: greg | September 7, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
As bad as Bin Laden is, or was, I have to say he was a bit more intelligent than portrayed here in this tape. This latest Bin Laden seems way more naive, as if reading from MoveOn.org talking points, or having just seen Al Gores fiction movie about global warming. By the way, has anyone seen Howard Dean lately?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
This is a fake. ABC has been scammed. This is not a message from Binny.
What kind of nimwits are running ABC News?
Posted by: Luigi Aronson | September 7, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
As bad as Bin Laden is, or was, I have to say he was a bit more intelligent than portrayed here in this tape. This latest Bin Laden seems way more naive, as if reading from MoveOn.org talking points, or having just seen Al Gores fiction movie about global warming. By the way, has anyone seen Howard Dean lately?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Dudes, that whole rant was hillarious!!! The “great religious one” OBL is worried about our mortgages and taxes!!! I can’t stop laughing. I’m shaking in my boots. Oooh, please don’t hurt us.
Posted by: Phil | September 7, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
“Noam Chomsky is one of the most capable of those from your own side”. Clearly this was written by someone on the “other side”, namely the right, or a neo-con.
Posted by: jc | September 7, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
“Posted by: Here is another answer | Sep 7, 2007 4:36:18 PM
Ron Paul is the only one who can beat hillary!”
Ron Paul couldn’t beat his way out of a wet paper bag.
Posted by: Skittles | September 7, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Vote Democrat!
We may not have the balls to fight like F.D.R. possed anymore, but we sure as heck love our bathroom foot tappers in OUR party.
Rep. Barny Frank for President! He’ll stop our enemies with gay love! Where’s Carl Marx when we need him?
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
hey all you america haters it reads like most argee with obl why won’t you go live with them. I’ll bet they kill you because your not like them,ho
I forgot you can convert to islam or die. good luck
Posted by: md21 | September 7, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
With Norman Hsu now in trouble, it’s up to bin Laden to fund the Democratic party. Hillary I am sure will not turn down the money!!!! She still has Hsu’s.
Posted by: DJ | September 7, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
What a Schmuck ! This Looser has his people attack the USA and then complains that the war is unjust! I guess this makes him a Neo-Islamic war monger? Someone please vaporize this A-hole ASAP and do the western world a favor.
Posted by: Guzzi | September 7, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
2.5% flat tax?!?!?! That’s it?!?!
Where do I sign up?
Allahu Akbar!!!!!!
Posted by: Mark Miller | September 7, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Os4m4 Bin L4den would own George Bush. Just look 4t his 4wesome be4rd. i get 4 boner when i think 4bout 4meric4ns 4nd muslims violently dying every d4y, 4nd you should too unless youre 4 f4ggot.
Posted by: JR | September 7, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I think Osie subscribes to the Hugo Chavez book club and Chomsky is required reading. Wonder what’s on Hillary and Obama’s nightstand?
Posted by: Hector | September 7, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
I cannot tell the difference in what OBL says and Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, News Commentators, et al. It’s just crazy that these people cannot stand behind the goals of the U.S. They should declare themselves enemies of the U.S. like OBL has, instead of lying and pretending they are representing our best interests.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Bin Laden’s comments are operation commencement code words for covert ops/sleeper cells in the U.S.
Ever heard the phrase “The Chair is Against the Wall.” To the normal listener, its nonsense. To the pre-informed, it says it all.
JH
p.s. Watch your asses out there.
Posted by: jac holtzman | September 7, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Gee, I thought they were the “religion of peace?” Huh.
Posted by: noname | September 7, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Valerie … Liberals believe in god. Their god is themselves!!!! Liberals….Democrats…..Facists….Antichrist….. Same Agenda
Posted by: Victor | September 7, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
To the Euro-box who wrote the below. America is the oldest and most successful democracy in the entire world. Europe 70 years ago…hmmmm… which country and dictator to you want to pick as your shining example of forward thinking? Mussolini, Franco, Hitler? Yea. You Euros rule. Jealous much? I mean that is the real issue here with you and your terrorist friends. To both groups, why not do something productive if America sucks so bad? Where is your awesome society? Leaders do, Losers don’t. You’re of course the later.
p.s. To the freaks wondering about the timing of this video — ummm could it be any more obvious? Your terror buddies love anniversaries. In case you forgot 9/11 is coming up.
“America is at a point of development, we in Europe have passed 70 years ago. Wake up and learn from history and recognize that democracy in America at this moment is not worth to mention.”
Posted by: johnny ventana | September 7, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Hey Two Tours Later,
Fact: I’m happy for you. You at least know you are a “L i b e r a l”
If that’s your best argument I guess we can’t count on you to beat OBL (or in your little spelling world UBL.)
Posted by: CamTheMan | September 7, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
First: Don’t believe in conspiracies. The President can’t even get a hummer in the white house without the whole world knowing about it. I hardly believe the government is capable of making a fake tape and then keeping it a secret for very long.
Second: Which is it? Either Bush is a bumbling idiot or a criminal genius, he can’t be both. It seems the left wingers will use which ever description that seems to fit their argument of the moment. I believe he is a man of convection that unfortunately makes mistakes along the way. Sometimes big ones, but I believe his intentions are good.
Third: Bin Laden is clearly playing the American people, mainly the left. Its Psychology 101, empathize with your “mark”, make them feel justified in their emotions and then then suggest a course of action. Its a mass recruitment effort by Bin Laden on behalf of Alquida.
Don’t be played.
Posted by: Russell | September 7, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
I’m with him on taxes!
Posted by: Rock on! | September 7, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Yeah Captain America…moderate Democrats who keep Nancy Pelosi and Harry “The Body” Reid in check are not on Bin Laden’s side, but the Daily Kos and Move-on dot org(y) crowd are most definitely his kind of people.
Posted by: Floyd | September 7, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Wow. Reading all of these posts just makes me sad. All thanks to the Great Uniter, GWB. This country was more united on 9/11 than it had been since the Miracle on Ice. All the vitriol I’ve read above is the byproduct of this administration’s success in dividing our country since then. Chill out on the rhetoric. There isn’t a person in Washington, regardless of party, that doesn’t love this country. There isn’t a commenter whose posted that doesn’t love this country. Stop trying to talk tough on a message board. We’re on the same side. I’m a registered Independent and I haven’t decided who i will vote for in the next election. I just hope that the damage caused by this current administration isn’t irreperable. Maybe Americans should think twice before voting for a President soelely on the basis of his religion, party affiliation, his last name or because he wears cowboy boots even though he was raised in Connecticut. I’m not impressed with any of these candidates. One thing I do know is that I’m sick and tired of the venom being spewed by followers of each party, both nominees and voters alike. We’re all Americans. The true sign of ignorance here is the person who resorts to name-calling or believes everything they read or hear. Have a discussion and not a pissing contest, folks. Regardless of who is voted our next President, he/she would have to work extremely hard to make more mistakes than this current one.
Posted by: Barry Macaulkener | September 7, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
From the photo, I think that it’s fairly obvious that Osam Bin Laden is being held at Area 51.
Posted by: Chas | September 7, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Ok, do you not see what Bin Laden is trying to do? Do you not realize you are playing right into his hands? He wants to split this country like Iraq has split. We should unite as a nation and defeat ths evil monster who killed over 2,000 of our neighbors, friends, and loved ones. Stop bickering and let’s get this guy once and for all!!!
Posted by: Nick | September 7, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Mr. bin Laden
Let me make this perfectly clear to you and your ilk, I and those like me will never ever ever ever submit to you and your Satan you call Allah!
Posted by: Kyle the Rogue | September 7, 2007, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Black hole sun….won’t you come…..and wash away this liberal scum.
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Funny how bin Laden’s facial features have changed so dramatically over the years. The shape of his nose, the shape of his brow, the width of his face — I’d almost swear that bin Laden is a different person now than back in Nov. and Dec. 2001! What do you think, Sheeple?
You say you hate and mistrust “big guvment” but you’ll eat any old garbage the government and the MSM feed you.
I love how ABC reports this as a “tape of bin Laden” — because if we see it on video, it must be so! If they had any brains or integrity they’d at least call it the “alleged tape of bin Laden” or a “tape proporting to be bin Laden.”
I suppose they also believe Forrest Gump really shook hands with John Kennedy because they saw it in the movies!
Posted by: Jake | September 7, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
I personally believe that OBL is a conservative Republican. My reasons:
1. He is very religious.
2. He prays regularly.
3. He supports lower taxes.
4. He is opposed to the “secular humanists” that Bill O’Reilly talks about.
5. He supports a balanced budget, and wants to eliminate foreign debts.
Posted by: GoCardinals | September 7, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Message to Lance Morrison: stop plugging your ridiculously crappy “conservative music”. I am a conservative and it doesn’t help our side one bit to have losers like you shilling their amateur, ideological, special-needs-quality music on message boards. It makes us all look bad, just like Wide Stance Craig. Just stop.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
For the last time:
First:
Al Quaeda did not exist before 9/11. Seriously did anyone hear the word Al Quaeda before 9/11? NO! If you claim you have- you are a LIAR!
Second:
Bin Laden is not responsible for 9/11 and had nothing to do with it
Third:
Osama Bin Laden is either dead or living in paradise somewhere in the south Pacific spending lots of U.S. Government cash that was given to him in exchange for him admitting he was behind 9/11
Fourth:
Bin Laden probably died in 2004/5
Fifth:
This is about the dumbest neocon plot and set-up for another 9/11 event- so Bush can declare Marshall Law and remain in the white house (Marshall Law would stop a 2008 election- until the country and the people are “safe” and we all know how long that would be).
Finally:
Why are the bush’s and the Bin Ladens still in business together?
In conclusion:
Take the hook out of your mouth or do not complain when they reel you in and gut you!
Oh, yeah, and- this is not how Osama Bin Laden speaks! The phrasing is completely wrong! Listen to his previous tapes and you will notice a HUGE difference in how he speaks!!!!
Posted by: Darrell K. | September 7, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Seriously. Is no one else freaked out at how much this sounded like a stump speech from a Democratic Presidential candidate? I am. Minus the bit about Islam that could have been Hillary in New Hampshire. How that doesn’t scare the hell out of people escapes me completely. So far the people I have heard nearly verbatim echo the Democratic party rhetoric have been; OBL, Chavez, Castro, Al Sadr, and Ahmedeniaj (however you spell his name). I have been a fierce political independent for several years now and personally think both “sides” are misguided lunatics but I woul seriously not vote for a Democrat at gun point right now. They are on the side of our enemies to the point of treason, this is just messed up.
Posted by: Brandon | September 7, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I think it is pitiful that most of the right wingers (? I suppose, but what has this to do with tax policy etc.) around here a simple minded enough to take Bin Laden at his word. Really, you are going to take what he says he likes or wants at face value, as if he is a dumbbell, not thinking a few moves ahead? The Iraq war was mismanaged and helped his cause accordingly, so who is really supporting Bin Laden? Who let him slip away in Afghanistan, to divert resources to Iraq – why couldn’t we have finished up there ? With all the billions spent, if spent there instead (or later), we could almost certainly have gotten Bin Laden by now. We shouldn’t even have him around to listen to in the first place. Whose fault was that?
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
It’s really not fair to compare Bush to Osama Bin Laden.
After all, Bin Laden hasn’t killed 3500 of our soldiers in a unnecessary war.
Or crippled thousands more for life and then given them crappy medical care in VA hospital rooms with black mold on the walls.
Nor has Bin Laden stolen $4 Trillion from our Social Security/Medicare accounts in order to give tax cuts, oil deposits, and defense contracts to the superrich.
And when Bin Laden screws us he doesn’t wave the American flag.
Posted by: Don Williams | September 7, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Oh yeah Mr Barry Macaulkener…the devide in this country is all GWB’s fault. I remember, after GWB had the congressional leadership over to the White House a couple of weeks after 9-11, Tom Daschle and his ilk standing outside the Whitehouse after the meeting bad mouthing GWB and I remember thinking to myself “well…there goes the ‘United Country’ everyone has been proclaiming.” Seems to me that it is the liberal radicals that hope for failure so they can claim they were right all along. That is treasonous.
Posted by: Floyd | September 7, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
UBL mentions 2.5% tax. On what!!! Under their so called “only” system “NO ONE” makes any money!!!! So they tax on the very limited amounts of money these poor souls have. NO THANKS….I’LL PASS!!
Sounds like a tax and spend similar to what the Dems are proposing. No wonder he’s pulling for their party. Hmmmm?
Posted by: Mario B | September 7, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
“Which is it? Either Bush is a bumbling idiot or a criminal genius, he can’t be both.”
He is a bumbling idiot and a puppet of those who have the capacity to be a criminal genius.
Another fake.
Posted by: One | September 7, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
More proof we need to just turn that whole part of the world into a plain of molten glass. The only downside is that we’d have to drill through a few millimeters of vaporized mullahs and imams to get to OUR oil.
Put that in your hookah and smoke it Osama, you p*ssy. And what the heck is a neocon, anyway? I think it is a cool name, I’m going to go around saying that.
NEOCON
NEOCON
NEOCON
That’s a cool name. Better than scum sucking liberal democrat wankers.
Posted by: SquirrelCutter | September 7, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
OBL dead???
It is a fake beard then.
He must have just come back from Leona Helmsley’s mortician.
They propped him up for a photo op.
Posted by: DaveS | September 7, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
PS – Just remember, that a tape purporting to be bin Laden, if it isn’t (and really, look at the face etc): That doesn’t mean that our government did the faking, AQ could need a front.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
How about we take a vote?
Who’s the greatest threat to America? Al Qaeda ?– or Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Fox News and all the morons who believe them??
Posted by: Don Williams | September 7, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Sorry, Osama, but even though your 2.5 percent tax rate is very attractive, converting from one false and delusionary religion to another is no solution to our problems. Getting rid of both of these delusions–Christianity and Islam, and Judaism also–would be a step in the right direction. Basically, this whole Islam vs Christianity crusade is a farce.
Posted by: Dayahka | September 7, 2007, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Uh Darrell shouldn’t you get back to the asylum before they realize you’ve gone missing.
You will be sad when a new President is installed and status quo exists. Then you might want to schedule a few extra sessions with your therapist so he/she can bring you down off that ledge!
Posted by: Kyle the Rogue | September 7, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Why the preoccupation with “being liked by the rest of the world”? If the United States and President Bush are so despised, then why have the voters in France, Germany, Australia, Canada, and soon in Great Britain elected pro-American, pro-Bush leaders? Let me check the list of those who really DO hate him….hmmmm….The Democratic Party and al-Queda. RUH-ROE!!!!!!!
Posted by: R. Hall | September 7, 2007, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Ah, Noam Chomsky gets a mention! He might as well have called all the residents of Berkeley California saints, for their unwavering loyalty to every anti-American cause out there. There’ll be tears of joy in Berkeley now that they see that one of their heroes is still living on this videotape. It might even give them a pause from their usual hypocritical hate and self-righteous Christian bashing.
Posted by: Pog Mahone | September 7, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
I find it incredibly amusing that the comments related to this piece made by both left and the right say OBL’s spew reflect each other’s opinions/positions. As a registered independent I try to ignore the rhetoric of both the left and the right, do the research for myself and THEN make a determination of what the truth is based on FACT and not blind loyalty. Maybe many of you would be better off if you would do the same. There is nothing more ignorant than people spouting the party line without doing the research for themselves. That’s why things are such a political mess. Not because of G.B. or Billary or anyone else in the current political establishment. It’s people who do not think for themselves that is the problem. For the sake of the country, wake up and do the research for yourself. If you have any common sense at all, you’ll arrive at the right conclusions and we’ll all be better off for it.
Posted by: Mark in IAH | September 7, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Was that a Harry Reid transcript??
Posted by: Jerry | September 7, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Tax cuts? Can he be the next Reagan?
Posted by: desperate repub | September 7, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
We need to unite as Americans. Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives. Our solidarity will defeat this madman. Stop our bickering. We are all Americans and we value each other.
Posted by: J | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Conspiracy Conspiracy!!!! All liberals want to claim conspiracies!!! There are martians landing on earth now!! War of the Worlds is Real!!! Funny how he mentions Noam Chomsky as a capable person. Congrats Noam. OBL thinks your a good man. Maybe its time to take a look in the mirror.
Posted by: Adam | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Hug your children and tell them that you love them.
Posted by: webfoot | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
No taxes in Islam? Maybe not, but in my religion no one ever expects me to strap on a vest of C4 and blow up a school bus.
Posted by: The Undecider | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Osama bin Laden died of kidney failure in the mountains of Balochistan in December of 2001, according to President Pervez Mussharraf of Pakistan, at the time. He has since then changed his position to co-incide with the official story promoted by the U.S. administration. There is no bogey man in the caves of Torabora. The Whitehouse staff was taking Cipro on 9/11, days before the first anthrax attacks on the democrats opposing the Patriot Act. There is a bogey man in the office of the Vice President.
Posted by: Ally Kendall | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The raw idiocy of Conservatives never ceases to amaze…
Bush is the best friend Bin Laden ever had. Remember how before 9/11 OBL said we would invade and occupy an Arabic country? Hmmmm? Then, Bush gave him *exactly* what he wanted? Remember that?
Your equation of American Liberals and AQ is so specious as to be laughable. YOU GUYS are the religious fundamentalists, remember?
Posted by: broadsword | September 7, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
OSAMA BIN LADENS RHETORIC = DEMOCRATIC PARTY TALKING POINTS
THAT SAYS SOMETHING DOESN’T IT?
Posted by: Tony V | September 7, 2007, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
OBL obviously wants the war to continue, hasn’t anyone heard of sarcasim? The extremists want exactly what the neocons want…WAR. Until we start getting back to our contsitution like Ron Paul preaches with “Mark and Reprisal” the guys will continue to run loose and we will continue to bleed. We gotta go directly after these guys and stop thinking we can nation build! PERIOD!!!!!
Posted by: Joe from Austin | September 7, 2007, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Hmmmm.
What an amazing number of liberal kooks on this website.
Posted by: memomachine | September 7, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Please define the following….Independent – One who can’t make up their mind. (SEE: Sitting on the fence post and never committing to anything of any substance.)
Posted by: R. Hall | September 7, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
BTW, those talking about winning in Iraq: Which do you prefer, the Sunnis or the Shias, and why? Just wondering – can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Bin Laden proposes a 2.5% Islamic flat-tax, how Republican of him
Posted by: Yay | September 7, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
After hearing that speech I think OBL is running for the democratic nomination. I’m sure the left wingers really like what he’s saying! Watch out hillary – you’ve got competition!!
Posted by: Lee | September 7, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
LIBERALS: No matter how you or your media spin this, Osama Bin Laden’s WORDS DO NOT LIE.
HE IS SAYING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAY EVERY DAY. YOU FURTHER THE PROPOGANDA OF THE TERRORIST WHO REVELS IN THE DEATH OF 3000 OF OUR CITIZENS.
GO DEMOCRATS!!! OSAMA IS ROOTING FOR YOU!!!
Posted by: Tony V | September 7, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
The left wing democrats forged and fabricated the contents of that video tape then pointed a finger accusing that it was the Republicans who did it. Just look at the perfect timing in which the 2008 Presidential election campaign for both parties just started. Good luck all you dimwitted, clueless liberals for your naughty little tricks.
Posted by: shannangreen | September 7, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Don’t believe in conspiracies. I hardly believe our government is capable of making a fake tape and then keeping it a secret for very long. The President (Clinton)can’t even get a Bl@w job in the white house without the whole world knowing about it.
Bin Laden is clearly playing the American people, mainly the left. Its Psychology 101, empathize with your “mark”, make them feel justified in their emotions and then then suggest a course of action. Its a mass recruitment effort by Bin Laden on behalf of Alquida.
Don’t be played.
Posted by: Russell | September 7, 2007, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Sounds like a lot of you posting these comments went to a government school for your education!! I guess that is where you get all of your intelligent ideas and theories!! I guess they also taught you that the United States should have never got involved in World War II, after all Hitler was a great man, Emperor Hirochito was a great man, and lets not forget the Dems favorite leader, Saddam Hussein. He was such a good leader and took very good care of his people! OBL is and has been a threat to our freedom and our way of life! This video may be fake but the threat is real!! Drop the play station controls, quit watching the Michael Moore movies, quit reading the New York Times, take your butt to work and pay your taxes like the good little sheep the Dems want you to be!! Wait forget the work part, the Dems are against you being successful! It is up to them to do it for you!!
Posted by: C. M. B. | September 7, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Who is a bigger threat to America…
1) Osama Bin Laden who hates America, thinks it is the most evil, wants to reshape it in the image of his ideal
2) Liberals who hate America, thinks it is the most evil, want to reshape it in the image of their ideal
3) Conservatives who love america, think it is the greatest nation on this earth, and have America as their ideal
Posted by: Floyd | September 7, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Bin Losser is Bin DEAD.
Posted by: ChiMan1 | September 7, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Barry Macaulkener
Do not blame Bush for being a divider, this country was divided under Clinton. I knew many in the military that despised him. You have folks that believe in higher taxes, abortion, weak military and those of us who believe in less gov’t, no abortions,and a strong military. Until this country has it tough like the eastern european countries did under communism we will always have our differences. But don’t blame Bush, That is a cop out.
Posted by: CW2 Pilot | September 7, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
The other poster is right. Just walk down any street in Berkeley California and you’ll quickly see where the REAL danger to this country is! People who think they know everything usually know very little, and people who have no tolerance for other people’s viewpoints are an even greater danger still. Berkeley is the hive for both of those types of people. Most people from Berkeley are living examples of both of those truths.
Posted by: Angela | September 7, 2007, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
The poor spelling some of you have makes me wonder about the clarity of your thinking- both right and left!
Posted by: TD | September 7, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Has there been some sort of mixup? Isn’t this the Democratic party’s campaign platform for 2008? Isn’t this what Hillary and Al Gore say to us daily?
The enemy is not in the Middle East. It’s here in our own country, in the form of the Democratic party. Every one of them should be put in camps, behind barbed wire, so that we’re not in danger.
Posted by: David Stone | September 7, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
LOL-How convienient for the neo-con,corpguv,traitors.I surprised the boogie-man didn’t endorse the candidate who’s name is not to be spoken.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Its Psychology 101, empathize with your “mark”, make them feel justified in their emotions and then then suggest a course of action. Its a mass recruitment effort by Bin Laden on behalf of Alquida.
Don’t be played.
Posted by: Russell | September 7, 2007, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
A subliminary psychological escalation is on its way. When it gets to the right “momentum”, then…
Like a Gulf of Tonkin set-up, a inside job, another 9/11-style strike, and blame will go to… Iran !!!
An there it goes America, in another war for “justice”…
First Phase Objective: Control Persian Gulf, to keep oil running in dollars. So that Fed can keep on getting money for free from its printers, while the world has got to earn it…
Second Phase Objective: Control Caspian Sea huge reserves, and approach closer to Russia with a rim of missiles.
Posted by: Francisco Almeida | September 7, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Oh man! He was 99% on board with the whole DNC agenda. Then he had to go mention that low taxes thing.
Posted by: Close, but no cigar | September 7, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
“Please define the following….Independent – One who can’t make up their mind. (SEE: Sitting on the fence post and never committing to anything of any substance.)”
Independent is a fairly self-explanatory term. Instead of being aligned with either of two mis-informed parties, they can think for themselves. Their not agreeing with you or a party does not sit them on the fence – it sits them outside your inability to conquer your tunnel vision. Their belief system isn’t steeped in a tea of religious self-righteousness – and they are actually able to discuss issues vs the party line. Something Rush Limbaugh has never been able to do, despite his utter desire to do so. His listeners are incapable of thinking for themselves, as Rush himself states. “I think so you don’t have to”.
Interesting lil’ sheeplings.
Posted by: One | September 7, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
with that endorsement of Chomsky, you *idiot* Conservatives are again giving OBL exactly what he wants; a divided America.
You are *fools* (that’s clear enough from the fact that you voted for Bush), and you are playing right in to what a terrorist wants.
Posted by: broadsword | September 7, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
It is sad that our country has girlie wussies fighting the so-called war on terror. Bush is afraid of iran and syria.
Posted by: Realist | September 7, 2007, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
All the liberals are right! Bin laden is a good man and fully supports the democratic party, let’s do what Bin Laden wants, let’s elect democrats!
Posted by: C.J. | September 7, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
Barbra Streisand and Janeane Garofalo will always keep the fire of unrequited love burning for Bin Laden.
Posted by: Dennis | September 7, 2007, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Looks like a little Photoshop editing of bin Laden.
Is this guy alive?
Posted by: 11amDesign | September 7, 2007, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
oh and to the guy who said “coservitive thinking will destroy the world”
I hope you Pay 75% taxes some day.
Posted by: Adam | September 7, 2007, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
WOW – I am dazed by these posts. It amazes me that people still buy into the “conspiracy” crap. I wish I could respond to each on personally but there just isn’t enough time in the day. If you believe that Osama is better than President Bush, you need your head examined. You may be suffering from Stokolm Syndrome.
Posted by: mg | September 7, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Hey Dems how does it feel to know that even OBL agrees your an incompitent party of losers. ROFL
Posted by: jimmythesmith | September 7, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Vote Democrat!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
I remember reading about how the Muslim community severely criticized Osama bin Laden for the 9/11 attack, but was shocked to learn the thing they most objected to was the fact that he did not invite us the opportunity to convert to Islam before attacking.
Posted by: Very Concerned | September 7, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
It’s so funny reading the comments of liberals on this board.
They are in a panic that their comments almost word for word, the same as OBL.
The best they can do is engage in their Elvis in an UFO logic, that this is being done by the Bush Administration.
Posted by: Tim | September 7, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Of course this is fake, Bin Laden is dead! Don’t you guys remember? We invaded his country, removed him from power, tried him in front of his peers, and hung him for crimes against humanity. I remember seeing him hang, it was a grainy, cell-phone video. So this can’t be real…
What? Wait, that wasn’t the guy? Oh, shoot…
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
I get a kick out of leftist liberals who call themselves independent because they read a newspaper occasionally and maybe some off the wall blog. They go on and on about how terrible everyone to the right of their thinking is. They continually bash Bush and others and think they are above the hate they claim to despise.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
You know how you can tell this isn’t a propaganda product of the CIA or other U.S. government agency?
It isn’t very good.
If there were ever any proof I need the Osama is really dead, this is it. The last time we got a tape from him, he was frail, gray haired and spoke with a different cadence. This guy is younger, spry and has a jet black beard.
Posted by: johnny | September 7, 2007, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Broadsward,
Could you be any more thick-headed? Your entire rant was one line after the other in hatred of conservatives, blaming them for dividing America because they voted for Bush.
What again was your point?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
There some realy, realy bizarro comments on this page.
Posted by: Beckwith | September 7, 2007, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
This is utter fake garbage. Why would a Muslim leader refer to a Western date?
It’s transparently trying to associate al Queda with the Democrats. Gee, who does that benefit? Osama? Hillary? No, only the Republicans.
Posted by: Weird jay | September 7, 2007, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Take another hit on your bong and try again to convince yourself this is all fake.
And then, quote your little leftist Bumpersticker lines.
Or quote Bin Laden, after all, it’s what you gutless types that would lead the West to defeat say all the time anyway.
Posted by: Tim | September 7, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Mr. Laden is trying to discredit the left. The right is who gains by his statements. Just like before the election it was known that he wanted Bush is Office and did what he could. This was the conclusion of our own CIA.
Posted by: diogenes | September 7, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Osama bin Laden is a figment of the Republican Party’s imagination. It is amazing to me how a tape always appears at an opportune moment for the Republicans.
To all of you who read this, this President is probably the dumbest president this nation has ever had for a leader.
Posted by: Robert Kneale | September 7, 2007, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
The President is doing an great job with respect to the terror war. If our warfighting and behind the scenes actions results in more dead terrorists, well done and keep up the good work.
Posted by: 73firebird | September 7, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Republicans: given your views of Osama Bin laden, can we assume that you’re sincerely disappointed that Bush didn’t catch him when he had the chance to at Tora Bora? Aren’t you angry that Bush dropped the ball in Afghanistan and let OBL go free? That he allowed himself to get distracted in Iraq and never finished the job in Afghanistan? If not, why?
Posted by: dva | September 7, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Democracy is the best form of government. But a democracy without an involved and vigilant citizenry is like a speeding car without a driver. America is heading for disaster because citizens are too busy to participate in their government. They elect corrupt leaders who do the work of traitorous special interests. America’s problems can be seen by looking in a mirror.
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron | September 7, 2007, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
First of all anyone with half a brain can tell the photo being distributed along with this transcript is a fake. It doesn’t look anything like Bin Laden and no one in the main stream media is the least bit suspicious of it. To them Bush, Rumsfield, Potreus, and Cheney should be distrusted immediately but not Bin Laden the Great…It makes me sick to my stomach. The transcript sounds juvenile and like it’s part of a “Wag the dog movie scenario” and not from a sickly Islamic leader living in some cave in Pakistan completely isolated from the outside world…
Posted by: Franklin | September 7, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Wow. How did Bin Laden get an advance copy of Hillary’s nomination acceptance speech?
No wonder even Ted Kennedy gets Bin Laden and Osama Obama mixed up.
Posted by: BA | September 7, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
But at the same time I would love to hear the Osama Bin Laden was beheaded.
Posted by: scott | September 7, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Anyone surprised that Bin Laden is rooting for the Democrats?
Twisted minds think alike.
Posted by: DFL | September 7, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Its amazing how the liberal Democrats agenda so closely parrallels our enemies. You would think they have the PR guys (which I think they do).
Posted by: John C. | September 7, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I just waw him a the local Stop n Go…
Posted by: Troy | September 7, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Islam helped humanity for hundreds of years through its contributions of architecture, mathematics and science. Who cares that we stole from other civilizations to achieve this!
Posted by: Allah | September 7, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Did anyone actually read the transcript?
His purposes and Bush’s purposes don’t quite seem the same. OBL seems more interested in ending aggression, Bush in perpetuating it. Let them have their desert and oil and inter-tribe warring. We have our own problems to worry about.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Really!!!!!
Posted by: Troy | September 7, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Pretty darn funny… I can believe Osama’s statement’s knowing HE BELEIVES
them….BUSH can’t even pull this talent
off anymore for 70% of the public…hehehehe
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
As alluded by some above, Middle Easterners value guile. This is an IQ test. Once someone knows he can say “X” and then many Americans will be against X, he’s got us by the balls. He can manipulate the gullible in any direction. Bin Laden is thinking ahead like a good chess player, how about you?
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
and Osama’s looking hot, tan,and terrific…all Bushie looks now is OLD
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
OBL is nothing more than a power feeding murder who uses the poor for his own adgenda. After 9/11 be first denide he had any part in it. then after he knew that wouldn`t fly he made the excuse that the reasoning behind the attack was because we forgot about the afgan people when the USSR was out of the country, then he wrapped himself in Islam amonth after the attack because those were the only ones that really celbrated the attacks. Now he wants us out of the region and practice Islam. What a fool, a lair and a murder.
Posted by: Charles | September 7, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
“freedom”
You said: Iraq is the wrong war for the US to be fighting. Iraq possessed no WMD, had no connection to 9/11, and did not pose an imminent threat to the US. Iraq was and is an unnecessary distraction from Afghanistan, and despite all Bush’s oratory to the contrary, the Iraq War has not made the US any safer from terrorism.
Then why was Clinton and evety other liberal tail sniffer so adamant that Iraq DID have WMD, and WAS a threat to the US…etc, etc.
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Pay no heed to the Devil or his followers. While Bin Laden hides he is like a serpent in tall grass lying in deceitfulness. I tell you this that you may know the truth which was revealed to me even though few would see or believe there upon the word of the Lord of Hosts.
Posted by: Daniel | September 7, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
It should seem pretty clear to all who read the transcript that sbl is condeming all that is not Islam. He and his kind are at war with freedom. Whether you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent; sbl’s war is against you if you do not believe as he does. This is not a conservitive vs liberal engagement. Wake Up!!!
Posted by: Barry | September 7, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
When will mainstream America wake and realize that the greatest threat to our freedom is liberal Democrats. They are no different that dictators and their communist state.
The left wing loonies (The Moore crowd) are as bad as any religious extremist. They want to control what you drive, what you drink, what you smoke, who you vote, what Union you in, what religion you shouldn’t be in basically almost every aspect of your life want to be controlled by liberal Dems.
Posted by: Jorge Hernandez | September 7, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Should read “THE problem(is)”… sorry.
Posted by: doited | September 7, 2007, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I love how the bitter, paranoid, leftist pseudointellectuals on this blog are so quick to try to distance their philosophy from the ones on the OBL video by claiming it’s a neocon plot, or crying about how scared they are about their government. Further proof that they and OBL share the same delusional paranoia and philosophies about the US. Nice try losers.
Posted by: LA Doc | September 7, 2007, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
its scary when someone who hates America proposes a bigger tax cut for the common American citizen than our own elected officials. Doesnt make Democrats look very good. FIX health care? IT isnt broken. Its the BORDERS, stupid!. Just tell the government to go away and leave me alone..oh, wait..cant do THAT, that would mean GASP..no CONTROL over everyone…
Posted by: David | September 7, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
too funny… now the Bushie’s are spinning that Osama has been hiding in Tehran for the last few years…personally I swear I saw him down in Crawford Texas last month at the Dixie Cup….he was sharing a snow cone with Jenna and Barbara…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
If this clown Usama didn’t exist already, the GOP would need to invent him.
Posted by: redglare | September 7, 2007, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Why don’t we all just tell him….
OK, Osama. Everyone just converted to Islam……so go home and behave yourself.
Posted by: Solution | September 7, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Troy: In what way did the neocons give the rest of us the stage to spew “garbage”? They nabbed bin Laden, sure, in Afghanistan, and wrapped up in Iraq all OK?..ahem, but Democrats won the wars they fought, like WWII. That is the real reason we can say what we want here, for the time being at least.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
The real question we should be asking ourselves is: Has the war in Iraq hurt or helped the terrorists? Are we killing them faster than they can recruit more, or is our killing of them (and innocent civilians) serving as a recruitment banner for Al Qaeda and other terrorst groups?
I tend to believe the latter. Therefore, I believe Bin Laden supports the war in Iraq and wants another Bush voted into the White House in 2008.
Posted by: Travis | September 7, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
OBL would fit nicely in the democrats plans for 08. He is less liberal and therefore less nutty than several democrats.
With Castro so ill OBL will become the new favorite of the liberals.
Posted by: Shane | September 7, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Republicans believe Bin Laden’s schoolyard taunts. They actually believe this cave-dwelling mental midget and his loosely organized band of thugs are capable of commandeeering the US nuclear arsenal and overthrowing our govt. The Chimp-in-Chief even cites OBL in his speeches, as if OBL’s threats carry any relevant weight in serious discussions. “Oh no, the terra-ists are coming to get your Granny and daughter, quick – launch a nuke to show em who’s boss!”
Would any of you like to buy some prperty in South Florida from me? It’s a great deal – seriously.
Posted by: Pat | September 7, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Hey BO 08, thanks for the post. You’re further proof of the bitter liberal underachievers blaming their personal issues, failures and shortcomings on the system. Nice use of exclamation points. Silly weirdo.
Posted by: LA Doc | September 7, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Greg: Most Democrats sadly did trust the tricked up intelligence offered to Congress and the people. Who was in charge on intelligence at the time? The executive branch…
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Delver, the Democrats that won WWII would NEVER be considered democrats today by any legitimate democrat organization.
Your party has move WAAAAY past left field.
Posted by: John C. | September 7, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Osama must be retired. He’s complaining about taxes — full-time.
Posted by: Budge | September 7, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
I would imagine that the leaders of the Democrat party are anxious to locate bin Laden so they can surrender as soon as possible.
Posted by: McW | September 7, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
wouldn’t it be funny if Osama has been hiding out in America the last few years and watching Fox news 24/7…hehehehe
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Did anyone realize the difference in the nose in the photo from 2004 compared to the new 2007 photo
Posted by: harold | September 7, 2007, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Geez, the conservative wingnuts sure got out in force early here.
Posted by: SocraticGadfly | September 7, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Is Osama running as a Democrat? He wants to cut taxes, so I am confused.
Posted by: No taxes | September 7, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Delver: If you were trying to answer my question please read it again. Well, okay, I suppose you could have assumed I meant Hillary. No, I wanted to know why Bill Clinton as president was the first to claim that Iraq was a threat and had a stockpile of WMD.
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
We live in a free nation which allows all sorts of people to voice their opinions…which is great! It’s just too bad many of the people voicing opinions don’t realize how many people sacrificed their lives to give us that freedom.
The majority of Americans elect our leaders every 2 years (or 4 years) and those leaders should be given respect until they do something to lose that respect.
More people should wake up each morning and consider how fortunate we are to live in a society that gives us so many opportunities to make a happy life for ourselves and our loved ones, instead of being so occupied with tearing down our nation with ugly rhetoric about how horrible our leaders are, and how much they wish they lived like some people live in dictator-ran countries.
Posted by: Jimmy | September 7, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
How many Americans died saving Europeans from themselves in two world wars? The cowardice displayed by Europe and other so-called allies has left this war lingering. Maybe they’re afraid of their large Arab populations. Whatever the reason it can only be called cowardice. That goes for all the American self haters as well!
Posted by: A Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Delver
How old are you? Democrats in the 1930-1960 era are now Independents and Republican/Liberatarians. You party shows weakness like I have never seen. Personally, I brought up Neo Cons, because, like radical Islam, if your not a Democrat, your a neo con. Where the hell have you been? Do you think Gen. Patton would be a Democrat today? I think not. We need a Patton for president today!! One other thing, you notice OBL used all Democrat talking points??? No worries fellow American. Us Bubba’s out here will protect your freedom to be a loon when needed. Out…
Posted by: Troy | September 7, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
John C: prove it, about WWII era Democrats versus today. They back then supported labor, employees, etc, and only fought a war that was necessary and did it competently for the most part, unlike today’s Republicans.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Convert to Islam? Hmmmmm………
How is “NO! sound to you?
Posted by: MH | September 7, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Beecham…we appreciate your years of service…please explain, sir, why you follow orders based on lies (like a pupet?).
we need to bully our country more until we’ve been in the neighborhood as long as other civilizations…get rid of killing and crime at home, educate the masses, create a smarter society, and re-illuminate the light we shut off years ago…
Posted by: Wag the Dog | September 7, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Haven’t we heard the same thing from the Democrats for years now? Democrat talking points coming from Osama….LOL…Useful Idiots
Posted by: Elephantman | September 7, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
What is with the blame america first crowd? Is it not possible that our enemies hate us simply because they hate us? Our foreign policy has not been the best since our inception, go back and look at how it was handeled after the founding. Its so cliche to blame terror attacks on our foreign policy it sickens me. Have faith in your government. Its not the best, but at least people arent being hung in the streets, or worse yet stoned to death, because of non-violent decisions theyve made.
Posted by: Chris in NoVa | September 7, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I think the tape is produced by the producers of the 9/11 hoax to help the former mayor of new york. This is to counter the recent documentary implicating the former mayor in the 9/11 tragedy.
Posted by: mohammad | September 7, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I witness there is no God but Allah
and Mohammed is his messenger…That’s
it… That’s all that’s needed to convert…NOW I feel safer…hehehehe
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Thanks to the corrupt leadership in the USA, we are the #1 obstacle to world peace and in biblical terms, the USA has become Goliath, the beast 666.
Posted by: Johnson | September 7, 2007, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Roger that…Ronald Reagan was a Democrat until after WWII…when he was asked why he left the Democratic Party he replied “I did not leave them, they left me.”
Posted by: Floyd | September 7, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
OBL wrote about the victory over the Soviet Union in Afghanistan like the mujahadeen was the reason for their victory. He failed to mention though that it was because the U.S. armed them.
Posted by: A Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Why do the Democrats line themselves up with this guy? Why aren’t the Dems on our side? I wish they cared more about America then their own POWER
Posted by: Byron | September 7, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
OBL’s new transcript calls for all U.S. to embrace Islam. He ridicules our high taxes and reminds us that their tax is only 2.5 percent. Remember, we could have a 2.5 percent tax if we would be content to live in a cave and walk every where. His life style is a hard sell. American’s are slow to give up their SUV’s who believes we would convert to a religion that sends us to the caves and our women covered like a tent with feet. Not going to happen anytime soon. Even the Republican’s don’t want lower taxes that bad. And there is not a Democrat alive who is willing to give up his or her current goods to live in Bin Laden’s caves.
Posted by: Ron English | September 7, 2007, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
So based on these comments, anyone that doesn’t agree with the president is a traitor or committing treason.
These comments about Democrats are beyond civil discourse.
Is a very scary time in America right now.
People are not being exposed to the real facts as the major media is controlled by a few scant corporations.
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Osama does exist, Einstein, and if you recall he took responsibility for the murder of over 3000 people whose unthinkable crime was to go to work.
Posted by: JC | September 7, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
You Dems are all alike. You are the blind man walking off a cliff. Luke, your feelings betray you.
Posted by: JMU | September 7, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Hey Delver, who started the Vietnam war for the US, a Democrat or Republican? You histrionic, paranoid, conspiracy-theory leftist pseudointellectuals are so quick to make simple-minded comparisons between Vietnam and Iraq. Why don’t you look up who was the first US president to commit troops to Vietnam. Idiot.
Posted by: LA Doc | September 7, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
Osama does NOT look like he is living in a CAVE…more like Puerta Vallarta
or perhaps Dubai….such a world traveler…hehehe
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Troy, I’m in my fifties, and you political scheme is a tired myth. Taxes were actually higher in the 50s and early 60s than today, and JFK lowered them to roughly comparable to today. Today’s Republicans spend more than Democrats and are riddled with corruption. Note what I said above about labor, about WWII and general competence versus Iraq. Aren’t you pissed that it was not executed competently? Why is bin Laden even able to make the damn tape to begin with, if your hero (?) Bush is so great? As for bin Laden’s message, don’t fall for what someone like that says directly. We can do better than that. Realize he is scheming like a chess player.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
With such a plethora of mediocre choices how can they not win?
Who have you got? Plastic opportunist Romney who changes position on issues as often as Bush says the words “9/11″ and “terror”, Giuliani, whose own family hates him and whose moderate views on social issues makes him poison to the religious wing of the party, McCain, who looks old and befuddled like a latter day mr. magoo and has no money in his coffers and Fred Thompson, who’s acting like his heart isn’t even in it and has no organization on the ground.
Posted by: dva | September 7, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
I think James Carville wrote his script!!
Posted by: Troy | September 7, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
This is ridiculous. If Osama Bin Ladin was a problem you morons in Congress should have just passed the legislation of Marquee and Reprisal. Oh but we forgot about Bin Ladin.
How convenient!!!
Posted by: Danielle | September 7, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Osama is a better public speaker than
the current President of the United States…roll on the floor, giggly funny…hehehehe :):):)
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
WOW! With a few obvious exceptions, this comment thread is longer on emotional, conspiratorial fantasizing, and shorter on facts and reason than any I have seen in a very long time.
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Why in the world do libs like to use the word “corporations” as if it were a dirty word? Do you even wknow what it realy means anymore?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
LA Doc – Yes, Kennedy did, but it was lost on Nixon/Ford’s watch. So, do you think he did the wrong thing? I thought you types were for that war. Remember Nixon’s peace talks, the treaty etc? And speaking of Iraq, why don’t you care more about it not being done well? Care more about defending party than defending the USA?
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
There was a point sometime during the 20th Century when we started seeing the world as good and evil, right and wrong, smart and stupid.
Our side is good, right, and smart and the other side is evil, wrong, and stupid.
And, we are absolutely certain of this no matter what anyone says and anything said to the contrary is obviously wrong or a lie.
This was the day that democracy died.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
I can’t believe the number of complete idiots who can actually try to stick up for bin laden! I already knew most liberals are completely ignorant of how to protect our Country, but to side with this murderous scum??? How many of you would’ve believed that we’d not have another majot terrorist attack succeed against America on 09/12/2001?
Admit it or not but the President has done a fantastic job of protecting this country. While there have been civilian casualties in Iraq & Afghanistan due to collateral damage, the number is nowhere near 100,000. Whoever believes that is just plain ate up with anti-Americanism and will believe anything about America, as long as it makes us look like the bad guys.
Posted by: Robert Henry | September 7, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
This guy is brilliant. But TRUE EVIL Usually is. He is truly pure evil.
Posted by: dano | September 7, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
This garbage from the high priest of the religion of Pieces…not peace.
Posted by: Dave | September 7, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
That day was during the 20th century, huh? Dude, John Quincy Adams’ presidential campaign in the 1820s compared his opponent to Satan. The campaign between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams had the partisans accusing each other of either wanting to set up a guillotine in front of the Capitol or setting up a monarchy. You really think us-against-them is something new?
I do think that American democracy took a dark turn when Al Gore refused to accept (as Nixon did) the outcome of a close, contested election.
Posted by: TheProudDuck | September 7, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
The democrats criticize Bush and America more than OBL does… OBL must have gotten his talking points from the DNC, or, was it visa versa?
Posted by: martifr | September 7, 2007, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
John- democracy died the day dems decided to oppose the war so they could take power!
Posted by: A Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
That stupid movie on the WTC “controlled explosion” has already been comletely debunked by every expert in the field. It is meant to mislead the ignorant and it obviously has.
Posted by: duhize | September 7, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Remeber those T-Shirts from a couple of years ago…Bush with that slogan
“Been Load’n..Bin Laden…guess this video proves that Bush shoots blanks…maybe we should have sent Cheney out hunting for Osama…Oh I forget…he only likes to shoot TAME
birds…:):):)
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
At least he is well informed.
Posted by: T | September 7, 2007, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
You have to love the Libs, Socialist, idiots or whatever they like to be called. There is no need to make fun of them. Just read the idiotic comments. Stop smoking morons. Gotta love ‘em.
Posted by: William Babin | September 7, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Ahh yes Delver, as I expected, you missed the point entirely in your poor attempt to shift the focus away from the main point. For someone so quick to try to place a war(Iraq) that liberals claim (and not neocons) is a Republican plot or failing, and that WW2 was a noble Democrat war, you make the argument that Democrats are better warmongers, in effect. So again, what was Vietnam? A failure on the part of a Republican to end it? Very poor attempt at spin.
Posted by: LA Doc | September 7, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Delver,
You SHOULD be thanking Bush/Cheney for
strenthening the Shia in Iraq…they were the ones so hell bent on phony WMD’s, and never thought a thing about how the Shia and Iran are soulmates in shared Theology and worldview…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
A little extra food for thought, when I was watching the news last night it was stated on there that the government felt there would be contact from OBL witin the next 72 hours….now how on earth would they have known that?!?!?!? Which leads me to believe even more that it was all fabricated by the US government.
Posted by: JB | September 7, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
First of all it isn’t a sure thing OBL was in Tora Bora. I love how you dems mistrust US intelligence in all matters but when it could benefit a point you’re making. Intel is not fact nor proof, it is educated estimates. So no I’m not under the mindset of Bush “dropped the ball in Afghanistan” given we’ve never been able to prove Bin Ladens location at the time of invasion.
Posted by: Steve G | September 7, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Just when the Republicans were on the ropes we get this early Xmas present. It does read like the position paper of a democratic nominee for the White House.
Hopefully this will make it clear to Americans how self-destructive the democratic party is. They want to do what Al Qeda does.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Another fine piece of filmaking by the DIA/NSA.
The Left vs. Right paradigm is a total con!
The left and right are controlled by the same powers. They’ve created the left vs. right paradigm to con us, and split us into different camps, so we can clash and bicker while they steal, lie and connive. It is used to divide and conquer us and it’s working very well. Time to wake up kids.
Posted by: notbeinfringed | September 7, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Osama sounds an awful like Obama or Richardson or Hillary. It is scary to see that Osama Bin Laden is actually a Democrat! God save America now
Posted by: Maria Consuela | September 7, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Enough already- go do something productive with your lives. Most of us are out here working like dogs to be good people and earn a living- we didnt do anything to these people. .
Posted by: Janeylee | September 7, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
At least with Hillary in office ol’ Slick Willie can start getting laid again!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Great acting skills. It’s actually a communique from the GOP puppet.
Posted by: Chrystie | September 7, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
“A little extra food for thought, when I was watching the news last night it was stated on there that the government felt there would be contact from OBL witin the next 72 hours….now how on earth would they have known that?!?!?!? Which leads me to believe even more that it was all fabricated by the US government.”
Islamic websites stated they would post a new Bin Laden video in the next 72 hours…which is where the US Government got that info from. My god you people will take anything and simply point to the government in blame without rhyme or reason.
Posted by: Steve G | September 7, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
It’s Max Headroom in disguise.
Posted by: Maz | September 7, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
jb- you fool!
Posted by: A Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Maria,
Don’t you ever get TIRED of PRAYING to GOD to SAVE America…why can’t you try to make an effort to do something YOURSELF ??…too lazy typing on a keyboard I guess…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
we need to have the guts to stand up to this, to stop hating ourseleves and look at who is really intent on destroying us. my fear is that america and mostly white americans have a death wish that is born of liberal guilt. there is nothing wrong with being proud of ourselves and standing up for our right to live and fighting against this evil that goes against every liberal tenet we espouse.
Posted by: Tariq | September 7, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
How can “the world’s dumbest leader” come up with all of these insanely complicated plots to bring down America and install “Marshall Law” (what the hell is that? Is karate a Marshall art too?)? It’s insane that there is this much free time on people’s hands to come up with these B-movie conspiracy theories.
Sharpen your Occam’s Razor, folks, and join us in the real world!
Posted by: Jake | September 7, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Bin Laden and liberals… perfect together.
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
This talk of the video being fake is a little bit silly. Video and computer technology is good, but it’s not that good. This one is the real deal, it’s not Osama Bin Headroom.
Posted by: Diamond Dan | September 7, 2007, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Bin Laden is a CIA asset and long time Bush Family business partner. This is all just propaganda to keep you scared and willing to give up your civil liberties. Time to practice some critical thinking fellow Americans. How much longer will you fall for the lies?
Posted by: 9/11 Truth | September 7, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Hating ourselves and blaming ourselves for all the violence in the world is a lot easier than admitting there are tribes and people of color and other cultures out there that do not have our best interests at heart. Talking to them will do no good. They are not interested in talking as we are. Words do not mean anything to them. The sooner all you do-gooders realize that, the better off we will all be. This is a war and a very big one whether you like it or not. That is human nature and it is coming – so wake up.
Posted by: Benji | September 7, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Hating ourselves and blaming ourselves for all the violence in the world is a lot easier than admitting there are tribes and people of color and other cultures out there that do not have our best interests at heart. Talking to them will do no good. They are not interested in talking as we are. Words do not mean anything to them. The sooner all you do-gooders realize that, the better off we will all be. This is a war and a very big one whether you like it or not. That is human nature and it is coming – so wake up.
Posted by: Benji | September 7, 2007, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Just_A_Grunt for President! From a veteran!
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
OBL praises Noam Chomsky. This is understandable. Chomsky and his ilk, in the name of ‘progressive’ thinking, are on the same ideological plane. They both seek only destruction – destruction of freedom and of all existing governmental systems. What would they replace these systems with? Repressive regimes, barbaric regimes, which would destroy anyone not in agreement with or subservient to their hate-filled rhetoric and ideas.
Posted by: Dray | September 7, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
2.5% Tax?!?!? Maybe, the lunatic does make a couple of good points after all.
Posted by: Calvin Broadus | September 7, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
If I were OBL, and I was out-manned, out-gunned, and out-financed by my enemy, what would I do?
“the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” What better answer than to get Americans fighting Americans? Even if at first it’s only political?
This message board seems proof enough to me OBL is getting what he really wants…..Americans turning on one another.
Posted by: Gid | September 7, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
This Osama video will most likely be proven to be fake, as many of the others have proven to be. One of the others was spliced together from old footage but passed off by the complicit mainstream media as new. All the evidence points to bin Laden being a stooge/patsy of US-British intelligence. The transcript is equally fake, and the objective of those who are really releasing these videos is to marginalize those against the Neocon/New World Order agenda as being on the side of al-CIA-DUH.
Posted by: Brody | September 7, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
When I was a kid, my public pool would have 10 minutes each hour when all of the kids had to get out and only the adult were allowed to swim. The theory behind it was that the parents and the adult would like to enjoy the time without all of the childishness and stupidity that kids do in the pool.
I think messages boards need the same rule. 10 minutes each hour when there can be intelligent exchanges of ideas without the elementary school name-calling.
Or, if we are going to call names, there should at least be a rule that you have to be clever about it.
And, if we’re going to play the “I’m better than you” game, you should at least have to prove it. I get it, your side is smart and mine is stupid. Now post your degrees, transcripts, and SAT scores and we’ll send you a trophy.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
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Posted by: Don | September 7, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Wow!! I would be willing to pay more taxes from my Capitalism paycheck to get 95% of these posters out of my Country!
Posted by: steve | September 7, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Osama Bin Laden platform sounds a lot like the Democratic Party platform … except better! At least Osama is against taxes!
Posted by: RPolifox | September 7, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
There is no god. Religion is evil. Religious people are like little children with imaginary friends. Please stop breeding.
Posted by: mike | September 7, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
For the record:
Clinton had an anti-terrorism force working full-time, headed by Richard Clarke. When Bush took over, he told them all to go home and dropped the ball.
From that point until 9/11, our government refused to accept a threat existed.
Richard Clarke was on NIGHTLINE jumping up and down about it.
Clinton did not sit on his hands, in fact he was more effective in limiting the activities of Al Quaeda than Bush has been.
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Why is Osama hiding like a frightened mole underground? If he really believed he is doing good for Allah by killing innocent people, he’d come out and become a martyr for the cause. Set an example for your believers, coward! Get out of your cave and be a man.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Newsflash: “progressives” are the new reactionaries. They do not want to do anything and cannot deal with reality. “Conservatives” are the new progressives who can look at the big picture and want to make changes.
Posted by: GHost | September 7, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Hey, who says that we have a debt / mortage problem in the US? I think that we need to keep raising rates & put everyone out on the streets!
Posted by: Chairman Bernake | September 7, 2007, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Mission acomplished Rickster. You go Girl
Posted by: gundog | September 7, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Why do we continue to give this idiot exposure. If you stop covering him then the world is a better place. He is not news he is a pain for those to see and for us to receive your reports on. ABC you get no more ratings on publishing this than you would for actually doing what the press should do. Publish FACTS. Cover the good things and ignore this type of information. The world would be better off.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
What do you think of Hillary now that Osbama is backing the Dem’s for 2008. Yes that’s right Cuba’s Pres and OBL are giving their backing to the surrender team! I guess they figure if Clinton made America an easy target, why not make it easy on them with Hillary. George and Team America is killing 1500 terrorist a month and Bill & Hillary show did about the same except thewy were American Embassy workers and Twin Towers workers.
Posted by: Steve G | September 7, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Typical Liberal name calling and hate mongering! Typical Liberal name calling and hate mongering!Typical Liberal name calling and hate mongering!Typical Liberal name calling and hate mongering!
Posted by: Jimmy | September 7, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Isnt that Iraq report due soon ? nicely timed reminder is it ;)
Posted by: andy | September 7, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Typical Liberal name calling and hate mongering!
Posted by: Jimmy | September 7, 2007, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Wow… The liberals hate Bush more than Osama.
Posted by: wow | September 7, 2007, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Is it just me? Or does Bin Laden resemble Chertoff made up and dressed in drag? ;-)
Posted by: Hmmm?! | September 7, 2007, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Not ready to live under the Shira but the 2.5 % flat tax Osama proposes sounds great. Is he planning to run?
Posted by: Johnny | September 7, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
The preson in the 2007 photo and on the video are not the same preson as the 2004 photo. The person in the video and 2007 photo is not Osama bin Laden. For he has to dark of skin,not as tall as Laden and wieghts more. Osama Laden has kidney failer which means his immune system shot.
And to get skin that dark with out makeup would get him skin cancer.And all videos of Laden wereshot far back do to his hight.
So if the goverment thinks thats Laden you can’t fix stupid!
Posted by: Charles Kenwood | September 7, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Woops! make that 99% of these idiot posters out of the Country, If it wasn’t for America you wouldn’t be typing from your computer in English, yes let’s all go back to History class.
Posted by: steve | September 7, 2007, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Osama seems to be more up to date and elequent on current events than Mr. Bush…that in itself is roll on the floor giggling funny…maybe Bush should try to stay UP past 6:00 PM and get himself familiar with world events…APEC NOT
OPEC Mr. Moron…hehehehe
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Still… Osama has some pretty strong points, the craving for wealth and luxury has driven us over the top, and we forgot or choose not to see that 911 was an inside job and Bush and his NWO and weaponsindustry friends should be the ones on trial for acts of terrorism
Posted by: Knut | September 7, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Bin Ladens been dead since late 2001. Oh wait he is running from cave to cave on dialysis but now he has “just for men” to dye his beard. The neo cons must be gearing up to stage another “false flag” event and declare martial law. Goodbye constitution! hello New World Order!!!
Posted by: Jasper | September 7, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Marc Cortez,
North Korea is called the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea but that doesn’t mean that they’re a democracy.
As Shakepeare said, “what’s in a name”
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Let everyone come through our borders, give away all of our Social Security benefits, tax us through the roof, give us only the liberal slant on all news…and then wait for Osama bin Laden to take over the U.S. Isn’t that was liberals truly want? It’s what Osama bin Laden wants. Right?
Posted by: tom | September 7, 2007, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
ABC should be so proud. OBL quotes from their propoganda “specials” to use against us. He agrees with ABC’s point of view. Yes ABC… you should be sooo proud.
Posted by: Bryan | September 7, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
“There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.”
No taxes? And just a few beheadings here and there….. hmmmmmmm…….
Posted by: I'm Right - You're Left | September 7, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
OBL supports Democrats! They must be so proud.
Posted by: Chuck | September 7, 2007, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
RUSSIA!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rumsfeld Overfelt | September 7, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Rickster in Gulfport:
Blind patriotism. Is that anything like all the chest-thumping liberals who followed Bill Clinton to the conclusion that Iraq was amassing a stock pile of WMD and that Sadam was a really bad man? I mean, if this was all some great big lie when Bush told the story, wasn’t it also a big fat lie when Clinton told it? Why were the so-called progressives and liberals so eager to blindly follow then? And why can so few of them today admit that there may be some truth to the notion that we didn’t start this war?
Blind patriotism isn’t always that bad, is it? Or is it only when you can accuse the right of practicing iT?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
OBL is dead. This “tape” is just propoganda designed to frighten the populace into having more and more of our liberties taken away, in the name of the “war on terror”.
The multitude of dates and name-dropping should be a clue.
Posted by: Sean | September 7, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Mmmm… Chertoff in Drag!!! Mmmmm…
I realy am turning Democrat! Eeeep!!!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Wow, the FBI needs to raid the DNC Headquarters. That’s where they’ll find Bin Laden; where else could he have gotten these talking points from?
Posted by: Robert | September 7, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
The democrats just blow wind in the sails of this murderer and his corruption of religion.
Without their support, OBL would have nothing to brag about.
Posted by: desertdweller | September 7, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Every last one of you that says he “has a point” go look in the freaking mirror and say you really want America to win, you can’t, the liberals have gone too far you trually would prefer OBL to our President…….Sick!
Posted by: John Cook | September 7, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
I think he video is computer generated, why is it so fuzzy ? and I detect computer like motions when he is moving
Posted by: redneckhat | September 7, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
I bet OBL could win the Democratic primary.
Posted by: Righty | September 7, 2007, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
I am so sick of this phony war on terror it basically gags me…All
the idiots that fly flags on 9/11 just make me want to grab a Bic Lighter and
and a pair of scissors and start having a cloth red, white,and blue barbecue…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Hmmm! No taxes, eh? He must be reading up on the Flat Tax & Fair Tax hoopla. If we can avoid all taxes by becoming Muslims, I wonder if OBL gets the 2.5% “alms” commission for converting us to Islam.
Posted by: Big Al Jano | September 7, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
What? no taxes in Islam? Where can I sign up? :)
Posted by: enty | September 7, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Sheesh. And the Bush Administration can’t find this genius after six years.
Posted by: Fascist Nation | September 7, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Finally! A third-party candidate with the answers America needs!
Posted by: Sal | September 7, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
The good news for Democrats is… if they convert to Islam, they can stop the war in Iraq. The bad news is… they would be beheaded if they murdered an unborn baby or engaged in homosexual sex. Talk about a dilema.
Posted by: Todd | September 7, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
The Germans blamed the Jews for all their problems.
The Republicans blame the ‘libs’ for all their problems.
The difference here is that Republicans are right.
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
“Every last one of you that says he “has a point” go look in the freaking mirror and say you really want America to win”
this is not a matter of winning anymore, this is a matter of admitting we all were fools and we better stop fighting and start talking now
Posted by: Knut | September 7, 2007, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Admitting that OBL has a point is not surrender, and the fact that one would think so, is why we are so divided.
It is called being objective not biased.
That’s like saying if OBL said Christmas was on December 25th, we wouldn’t celebrate it – just to ‘show him”.
IDIOTS!!
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
No offense to the world of Islam, but what kind of a role model calls for retaliation? Jesus spoke kindness, not evil.
Posted by: Doc | September 7, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Hey, maybe OBL can get a part in that new caveman TV show? Its on ABC, he probably will…s
Posted by: Ron J | September 7, 2007, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
MC,
I actually read the Communist Manifesto in college for a class. It seemed obvious to me that communism couldn’t work. I like doing things like that. Making up my mind after educating myself on the issue seems much more effective than rash emotional decisions based on nothing and then refusing to change my mind out of fear of having to admit that I was wrong.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Not my top ten, but I am surprised that you know of these outlets.
You can’t understand the possibility of middle ground.
Can you understand objective journalism?
I would doubt one would find any in the top ten list not offered by me.
Shows how Republicans react when you get them to think for a moment.
Paint the opposition as evil.
I don’t think Republicans are evil, just not very smart in forming their own opinions.
The type that have to have a guidebook to list out right and wrong like the Bible, because their own conscience is absent.
Is nice to see Bush’s SS is already up and running in the minds of people who post comments in the name of others.
Perhaps it is because your name is not worth any respect?
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I’m sad. I post so many outlandish remarks and get only one bite. Time to turn it up!
Vote Democrat! We support you right to abort your baby outside the womb!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
The difference here is that Republicans are right.”
Funny, the Germans thought that, too.
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
doesnt it wonder you OBL still doesnt claim 911? then… who did it?
Posted by: Knut | September 7, 2007, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Oh the irony that OBL encourages Muslims to engage in sucide attacks while he hides in a cave desperately trying to stay alive.
Posted by: Bradley | September 7, 2007, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Anyone that believes this originated from out of the USA is nuts
Posted by: Reality | September 7, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Michael Chertoff even said, that this bin Laden tape is “A way of playing with our heads.” All you foamy-mouthed right-wing ranters, saying that fellow Americans supported bin Laden just because he said he like Democrats better, as if anyone should be dumb enough to fall for bin Laden’s carefully crafted chess moves … You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
It says in chapter 18 of Revelations, that the city where all the kings and merchants of the world gather together will be totally destroyed by fire in one day. Isn’t that where the U.N. and the W.T.C. are? Sounds like a nuke to me. But what if a nuke gets dropped on Baghdad? It sure will take a while for the U.S. to rebuild the military. Revelations also predicts that the land of the Tigris & Euphratees will be totally destroyed, so that nothing will be able to live there. According to the book “The Nostradamus Code-World War III” it’s all supposed to happen between 2007 & 2012. And Shrub wants Amageddon to happen because of his evangelical religion. And Bin Laden wants it to happen for the glory of Allah. Nostradamus says it doesn’t have to happen if we’re not too apathetic to stop them. Oh well.
Posted by: lib | September 7, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Vote Democrat!
Posted by: worthpostingagain | September 7, 2007, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
Having read the transcript inits entirety what I can say is that his message is very compelling. We are all slaves to money and the only people who get rich are the corporations who throw us a few scraps now and then.
I t is also interesting tht Ozzy Bin Lden has again asked us all to convert to Islam a prerequisite in the Quran before attacking your enemies. If I lived in Manhattan I would be going to visit the in laws for a few days.
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Funny, the Germans thought that, too.
True, but having benefit of that knowledge, we are actually able to confirm that we, indeed, truly are actually right this time.
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
You have to admit that there are so many Americans who are not educated on his work. I would sugest that everyone posting here go to your local library and grab a copy. Its a good read, and very enlightening. In a Progressive way of course!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
The man in the video looks like a two-bit imposter, with his apologetic manner and his third-rate plastic surgery. This sad-looking, round-shouldered man shows nothing of the athletic shoulders and mad gleam in the eye that were trademarks of Osama Bin Laden. If this video was intended to mock the US, all it succeeded in doing was mocking itself. If it was intended to bolster up the discouraged warriers, it must be having the opposite effect by now. This attempt at fraud is not up to current media standards.
Posted by: Larry | September 7, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
If OBL intentionally tried to help Republicans in upcoming elections, he would not be able to do any better than this video. It says Democrat are easier for his operations and that if he reigned in the USA, his tax would be very low.
Posted by: Ed Vida | September 7, 2007, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
Okay Sheeple, wake up. Our two party system is broken.
Aren’t we in trouble when a serial killer makes more sense than 95% of our elected officials?
The dems and republicans keep you all busy fighting about matters of the heart while they pick your pockets and rape your land.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Posted by: J | September 7, 2007, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Leprkin, why don’t you try a trick like that in China, or Iran? Even typing something like that could get you imprisoned or executed in many countries. Do you have anything good to say about the country that affords you the freedoms you have?
Dray
Posted by: Dray | September 7, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Frankly these guys who keep screaming that we need GOD to Save America are as pathetic as the terrorists…why not start trying to save ourselves…and stop relying on a myth to help get us out of trouble….
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Memo Noam Chomsky: before you get too cozy with the praise heaped on you by Bin Laden, wait until he finds out you are an atheist.
Posted by: Reason | September 7, 2007, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Obviously someone can not debate a point correctly and has to resort to posting using my name.
I bet your last job was pollworker in the 2000 election?
Greg, I believe blind patriotism is bad in all its forms. True, Clinton had the same information as Bush did, but Clinton didn’t bog us down in any un-win-able conflicts.
It was when GW43 took his eyes off them is when they struck their biggest blow.
No coincidence, there.
Of course the fact that he brings the world to the brink again is all on him.
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
How many people here are happy and have a good life?
Posted by: Ozzy Ozbent | September 7, 2007, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Actually, Leprkin- If America is hated, as you say, I suggest it is because godless liberals, by way of Hollywood, have tried to force their warped values on the rest of the planet.
Posted by: Libbie | September 7, 2007, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Dray,
How do you know I’m NOT typing this from China…grow up and read your constitution….having the right to burn the American Flag in protest against this country is STILL constitutinally protected unless the law has changed in the last few days…
if so please advise me of the statute…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
MC,
I agree with you. And it’s sad that more people haven’t read it to know what it’s about, especially considering that it’s not very long anyway.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Fortunately Rickster I do not blame my country for the worlds or my problems. I just blame the idiot flag burning Ossama suporting, Hugo Chavez/Fidel Castro/Che Gueverra loving commies that I have to call my fellow Americans .
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
I read the ENTIRE transcript. Did you? He insults Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, rails against capitalism, democrats, democracy, the Vietnam war, taxes, mortgages etc. Bin Ladin’s interests are 180 degrees from conservatives. His ideals sound like talking points for the Democrat party. Here’s the gist of the rant: He wants everyone to convert to Islam, as usual. He blames the woes of Muslims on everyone else, as usual. Nations that defend themselves against Islamic tyranny are worse than those who strap bombs onto children – typical. The same “woe is us” crap from these people. What is the last positive contribution any Middle Eastern country has given the world? I can’t think of one in the last 200 years. They’re stuck in 11th century ideologically. They still think parts of Europe taken before the crusades belong to them. Nutty. Even if this is authentic (doubtful) it just proves once and for all that OBL is insignificant now. He has to fill his 1st speech in over a year with references to Richard Pearle, mortgages, taxes, Vietnam, JFK and global warming?? Pretty sad really. I guess he’s figured out that his threats don’t scare the US off anymore. Good for us, bad for him.
Posted by: VoiceofReason | September 7, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Well, well, well….seems you LIBs now have a friend in ‘ol OBL himself! Does the pity party start on your end, or will you be inviting OBL to the democratic convention of traitors to America?? What say you, LIBs, do you like your new friend OBL?? What a terrible mess this world is in!! We can only hope that good Americans will not take this BS lightly!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
WAKE
UP
SHEEPLE
OUR
TWO
PARTY
SYSTEM
IS
BROKEN
THE IDIOTS KEEP YOU ALL INFIGHTING WHILE THEY PICK YOUR POCKETS
Posted by: J | September 7, 2007, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
We ARE the light on the hill precisely because nut jobs like this hate us. Pretty good litmus test!
Posted by: B | September 7, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Wow, if it weren’t for the swipe at Democrats he almost sounds like a Democrat candidate for President.
Posted by: IOpian | September 7, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
The bin Laden tape is an IQ test: to see who is dumb enough to believe what bin Laden says, and then use it against fellow Americans. Tools.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Hey BIGBARRYW: Don’t forget, the Democratic Party also promised with stem cell research to make all of the quadriplegics walk again. Remember?
Posted by: BARRY | September 7, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Yep, Leprkin, you’re right, you do have the right to burn the flag. That’s exactly the point I was trying to get across. You want to burn the object that represents the country that that gives you the freedoms that are lacking in much of the rest of the world. Does this symbolize you’re desire to destroy your own freedoms?
Dray
Posted by: Dray | September 7, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
i am saudi and at the same time love America… America …the original culture,Fathers’ concepts of Democracy …etc
Frankly, most of you guys know so little about us culturely, religiously, socially and yet have the ability to analyse and judge us almost as no more than barbarians. Alas
also, i notice that most of you Americans can’t come out of the american shell. Hatch out of America if you want to understand the other.America is Not the world.
browse the internet and read about our countries, cultures, peoples, Islam …etc. Try to listen to our voice. just for information.
Posted by: liberalSaudi | September 7, 2007, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Global warming and mortgages!! What’s next? The Bin Laden diet? Osama ringtones? Maybe he’ll release his own hot line of turbans in time for the ’08 fashion season! Or is his way of chastising the Dems a hint at an independent run next year????
Posted by: Heather | September 7, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Binny.. It’s been a while, old friend. Welcome back!
Binny, I just want to thank you. I want to thank you so much for buying the Conservatives another 4 years of power.
Posted by: Aaron | September 7, 2007, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
” Leprkin | Sep 7, 2007 7:01:34 PM
The Republicans blame the ‘libs’ for all their problems.
Sorry, I won’t drink the Kool-Aid, another Limbaugh-ism. ”
Give me one good reason why Dem’s and Lib’s drinking the Al Gore, Hollywood, J Kerry, Clinton cool-aid is any different other than you think your points of view are correct?
Posted by: JT ROAD | September 7, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Funny, they thought that, too, as well.
So basically you are opposed to a two party system?
King George, perhaps?
Why would you assume I am against the two party system? I’m all for it as long as it has at least two good parties. Truth be told I don’t care much for either of the leading two parties, and none of the lesser ones appeal to me either. But if I have to hate anyone, I think it should at least be the ones who inherently assume the worst of me and would rather see our country fail than succeed under the leadership of the other party.
And really. with all the libs tossing words out like “neocon” “winger” and all the other disgusting words their two dads taught them, you gotta let me have at least one. Lib aint that bad, is it?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
2 possibilities here:
1) This is a forgery by US intelligence services.
2) OBL is alive, but completely insane.
“Convert to Islam, we have lower taxes”….Can’t believe this man is smart enough to evade capture all these years, but stupid enough to make crazy statements like these.
As someone above posted, nobody ever seems to be able to find these tapes on the internet, news organizations always get them from some US government source.
Therefore, I personally believe theory 1) postulated above.
Posted by: Stan Buie | September 7, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
No Dray,
Burning the American Flag is an expression of EXERCISING my Freedoms…
the SAME Freedoms that Americans’ seem so eager to surrender during this phony War on Terror…a fake war that really is NOTHING but a SLOGAN created by Karl Rove
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
I always get confused about two names:
Osama (Bin Laden) / (Barrack Hussein) Obama.
Posted by: shannangreen | September 7, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
CIA Fraud.
On Page 7 UBL says “i.e.” – why would somebody say “i.e.” in a speech?
Posted by: OpenYourEyes | September 7, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Greg: OBL would already be did if Bush did his job right in Afghanistan. Also, the neoconservatives made up that name for themselves.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
I could weep at the sarcastic and just plain mean comments of many here, so corrupted by rage and so prideful of their almost magical ability to see the “real” story here that they’ll gladly trade the truth for a lie and hope others are persuaded to agree. Paul said some such thing long ago, and its as true then as it is now. Give up your rage at our very human leaders, and gather your courage to preserve our better than most but still human condition in this country. Bless our leaders and may God guide them well in fighting this terrible evil consumed with our destruction.
Posted by: randall harms | September 7, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
I could weep at the sarcastic and just plain mean comments of many here, so corrupted by rage and so prideful of their almost magical ability to see the “real” story here that they’ll gladly trade the truth for a lie and hope others are persuaded to agree. Paul said some such thing long ago, and its as true then as it is now. Give up your rage at our very human leaders, and gather your courage to preserve our better than most but still human condition in this country. Bless our leaders and may God guide them well in fighting this terrible evil consumed with our destruction.
Posted by: randall harms | September 7, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
That’s it-I’m voting Republican!
Posted by: Ken | September 7, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
It looks like Bin Laden is the Fred Thompson of the Democratic Party! I wonder when he’ll release his formal announcement for his candidacy?
Posted by: Christine | September 7, 2007, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
well this is nothing new, the current administration is a dynasty of pure evil. The family from texas got into office through deception, the elections were only a formality. They should be held accountable for their war crimes. Even the residing VP puppet master, without him we only have the idiot.
It is ashame because I believe we live in a great country, unfortunately those who have money and lack basic morale’s have betrayed us all. The damage done by this administration will last several life times.
Posted by: sheep to the slaughter | September 7, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
It’s funny how everyone here that supports the War on Terror IMMEDIATELY ASSUME if you DON’T that you MUST be a
Democrat..
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The problem this bin Laden tape is causing for Republicans: all the stupid people fall for his spin, and vote Republican. How can such morons govern?
Posted by: red reptile | September 7, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Hey! I am not a racist!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
“Outside of wrong doing and right doing is a field – I’ll meet you there”
attributed: just guess
Posted by: rj | September 7, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
“Outside of wrong doing and right doing is a field – I’ll meet you there”
attributed: just guess
Posted by: rj | September 7, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Look. The Idiot bin Laden started the killing though the evils of terrorism. He is not worth a hill of beans to be listened to. Nothing he says is of any value to the people of the United States and yet many of you criticise both parties and not the bum Laden.
Posted by: Awkins | September 7, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
“It’s funny how everyone here that supports the War on Terror IMMEDIATELY ASSUME if you DON’T that you MUST be a
Democrat” ~Leprkin
Hmmm. Now I wonder why that would be.
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
When are you LIBS going to ‘draft’ ‘ol OBL as your new demoncratic party candidate? Should I hold my breath while waiting….I think NOT!!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
Does the KOS kids get their talking points from Osama, or does Osama get his talking points from the KOS kids?
Posted by: Puzzled | September 7, 2007, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
The news article above seems to believe this article was from the first days of august, and mentions him speaking of Sarkozy as a leader, however, he also names Blair as a world leader (in the same sentence), who resigned June 27, 2007…. so it would appear this would have to have been written between Sarkozy’s election in May and the last weeks in June… suprising that noone has caught this yet.
Posted by: James | September 7, 2007, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
A Modest Observation:
Osama Bin Laden is for lower taxes! He might as well be a conservative pundit! We always knew Republicans and Bin Laden had a lot in common.
Posted by: Nyx | September 7, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Remember, while you argue who is the worst party outhere, press 1 for spanish!!! Aaaaahaaa!!!
Posted by: Marc Cortez | September 7, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
We are so divided, whats this “War on Libs”. Name calling, very intelligent. Calling for War on your fellow Americans is treasonous. People like you would do all the work for OBL, you share the same self-righteousness and obviously don’t believe people are allowed to have opposing opinions.
This is truly a far bigger threat to our country than the current war. We are tearing each other apart over religion and political debate. This country is supposed to be a bastion of freedom not a place where people threaten and name call when they don’t agree. I can’t take this debate anymore. Is filled more with hate than facts.
Posted by: Rickster in Gulfport, FL | September 7, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
If BILL CLINTON would have taken out Bin Laden when he had the chance, we would’nt be where we are today!
Democrats actually beleive that George Bush has a video editing machine that he uses to manufacture terrorist propaganda tapes like this. If that’s not an indicator of just how LOONY-TOONY a democrat is, nothing will convince you.
Posted by: GI Joe | September 7, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Blah, blah blah, Bush lied, blah blah blah, neocons, blah, blah, blah. Same old tired rhetoric, blah blah blah. Blah blah blah, hate the military but ‘support’ the troops, blah blah blah. Please, you ‘progressives’, go back to “Bush stole the election” !
Posted by: JB | September 7, 2007, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Wow…you have a problem ‘shannangreen’. Lot of hostility re-directed maybe from something else?
Two-party system doesn’t rep every viewpoint, but it’s practical and gets the job done. I’d vote for Nader anyway, remember the guy who made cars safer for everyone, libs and cons alike? He’s a true American.
O yea, ‘neo-con’ is about right, busy pulling one big con job on all of us.
Posted by: ramblin-amblin kc geesee | September 7, 2007, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
AS much money as we give to the CIA how come they do a such a piss poor job doctoring and producing a fake video. You’d think they could afford to hire Steven Spielberg.
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
There are no taxes in Islam, but rather there is a limited Zakaat [alms] totaling 2.5 percent.
Now that should appeal to the neo-con nut jobs of this country. Osama says 2.5%. Are you blushing, Mr. Forbes?
Posted by: swampcracker | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
I thought for a while while reading this that Osama bin Laden was a Democtat, then I saw he supported not only a flat tax but that it was only 2.5%. Only at that point did I know that he could not be a Democrat.
I concluded that the tape is real, but Osama is the Fake Obama. :)
Posted by: john | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Xwheeler
who knows who would die first?
Posted by: liberalsaudi | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
The truly scary thing is that OBL is actually more coherent in his speech than GWB is in his. We’re doomed as a country for electing such a fool that misleads us through lies, spin and manipulation. Don’t forget that GWB is the real threat to America, not OBL who is a nuisance, not a leviathan.
Posted by: will | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
I cut out a picture of Noam Chomsky, had it laminated, glued it to a stick and put it in my garden. At least I get some use out of him. So far as I know, I have the only Garden Noam is existance.
Posted by: moronpolitics | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
liberalSaudi, I read your comments with interest, and do not disagree with some of what you say. You will acknowledge, however, that violence in the Middle East, like violence everywhere else in the world, has been around much longer than the United States. In fact, according to some Arabic scholars, Mohammed sought, for a period of time, to establish Islam through violence. That was long before the U.S. existed. I also understand your saying that we Americans are ignorant of your culture. There is certainly some truth to this, just as it is true that many in Arabic countries are ignorant of real American culture, which is rather more complex than what can be seen on dish satellite. I, for one, do not think that we Americans should try to cater to every culture, any more than I would expect those who live in Arabic countries to embrace American culture. I am more concerned right now about our own tendency towards self-destruction from within, than I am about Islamic radicals attacking us, altho that danger of course exists.
Posted by: Dray | September 7, 2007, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
Spin it anyway at all, Bin Laden is a fan of the Democrats. No surprise at all.
Posted by: Phil | September 7, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Don’t have any relatives in Iraq True
Blue…None of my family was STUPID enough to sign up for Mr. Bush’s misadventures in Mesopotamia…. and I’m too old to be drafted even if things get worse…please feel free to serve
For me though…or are you one of those lazy Republican Senators that wouldn’t
know a Real Tour of Duty unless it was
playing on Ninetendo…
Posted by: Leprkin | September 7, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Greg: OBL would already be did if Bush did his job right in Afghanistan. Also, the neoconservatives made up that name for themselves.
Really, which Army Ranger unit was Bush commanding?
Posted by: Greg | September 7, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
You LIBS will probably now want to run either Hillary, Osama or John as your Prez candidate and enlist OBL as your VP nominee. Will George Soros be your new Secretary of State?? You people really know how to pick friends!! As for me, I’ll be prepared with my M-16 and self-made IEDs. Cheers!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Anybody who is posting and thinking that Clinton and Richard Clarke were on top of terrorism is a fool. Sept. 11th was planned during the Clinton years. They waited to pull it off thinking Gore would be in the White House and that there wouldn’t be a measurable response.
Posted by: McW | September 7, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
OBL is some leader, issuing statements from caves and slinking around in the dark while his cronies die. It has got to hurt his U.S. political party, the Democrats, to have their idol upset with their performance in Congress. Maybe Pelosi can put her scarf back on and intercede for him with Israel. Yea, that would smooth thing over!
Posted by: Fortes fortuna juvat | September 7, 2007, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
You want to know what is sad – the fact that this video comes out, and NONE of us can unite under one commen idea, what common goal, one commone thought. Bin Laden speaks, and instead of uniting our wills to find and bring to justice the most evil man alive, we all bicker about which party is right, and which is wrong. Let’s get this straight: Our differing political parties have an equal stake in all that is wrong with our country. No one person and no one party is right. It’s up to us as voters to be responsible, to do the research and figure out where we stand and what we want. I say that we all shut up about which political figure is more like Bin Laden for five minutes and see where Bin Laden is coming from and how our actions can benefit him or hurt him. Arguing amongst ourselves benefits him; he wants us to be divided and at each other’s throats – it’s easier for him to start destorying what we all hold dear: the United State of America. You may not agree with my political views, and that doesn’t bother me. What really bothers me is that you can’t see past your own supposed intelligence to notice that you all are playing into his hands.
Posted by: MLS | September 7, 2007, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
This guy sounds a lot like Harry Reid. Are we really sure this isn’t a DNC photo op.
Posted by: Phil Meyer | September 7, 2007, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
A new Zogby International poll released yesterday shows that 51% of Americans (up from 45% last year) want Bush and Cheney to be directly investigated for their actions on 9/11 and 67% fault the 9/11 Commission for their failure to probe the anomalous collapse of WTC 7.
Hours after the release of the poll Bin Laden pops up and promises us a new editorial comment. Coincidence? Precisely the same thing happened last year. On May 23rd 2006, a Zogby poll was released showing nearly half of Americans wanted a new 9/11 investigation. The very next day, Bin Laden popped up to reinforce the official version and threaten new attacks. Can lightening strike twice in the same place?
Posted by: Wake Up | September 7, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
He is telling us to overthrow our goverment (embrase Islam) or they will kill us all
Posted by: Lauren | September 7, 2007, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
It is appalling to read the rhetoric of the liberal community that so closely resembles the garbage from OBL. What further evidence do we need that the libs are essentialy TRAITORS? The Constitution needs to be enforced, and quickly!!!
Posted by: Brian | September 7, 2007, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Does OBL have a life somewhere, or will he be invited to share the Lincoln bedroom when a new LIB Prez is elected? Boy, does he ever have friends in HIGH PLACES!! His rant sounds like it’s right out of the LIB’s playbook!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Noam Chomsky on OUR side???? Riiiight…
Posted by: Jody | September 7, 2007, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
No way that’s OBL. I’d like to call it out now.
Posted by: Skip Smith | September 7, 2007, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
What Osama doesn’t get is that we will never back down and will kick his ass until the last American is standing. It seems obvious to us, but somehow he doesn’t get it. He is an insane sociopath with idiotic followers (much like the democratic party – ha ha)
Posted by: Joe's Brp | September 7, 2007, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
For those that think Bin Laden is living life large…think againl. We are winning. He has been forced to live the rest of his life in a cave with a $50,000,000 bounty on his head. He is scared and should be. The Americans are coming. Someone said earlier that the real war is not in Iraq, but here…I heartily agree. Kick these Dems out and lets win the war now and bring our boys home.
Posted by: Ler | September 7, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I am unable to view the transcript in full with the pdf file. However, I know enough from what I’ve read to see this is more of the same from this wannabe Caliph. Let’s let the authorities do their job in thwarting attacks and breaking up cells. I’m not going to let some global village idiot like OBL change how I live my life. Down with Sharia law, an insult to human rights lovers everywhere who live in the 21st century.
Posted by: Texan | September 7, 2007, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
What a country we live in! You have OBL pulling for the Dems and the Chinese government funding Hillary’s campaign through fugitives. Has anyone asked himself or herself why a Chinese fugitive would fund the democrats? Here’s a clue, it’s not for philosophical reasons.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if OBL gave a little some some to Hillary’s campaign too!
But you won’t hear any of that from the mainstream media. They’re too busy pursuing stories about gay republicans.
Posted by: John zito | September 7, 2007, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
He is using the rhetoric of those who offer him the means of victory.
Posted by: Brian | September 7, 2007, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
This is fake, a complete illusion and conspiracy…. and…..if you look really close at the 9-11 tapes, you can clearly see that the tapes have been edited by the American government as well. In fact, if you look really close at the 9-11 tapes you can see that President George Bush himself is of the pilots of the American Airlines planes, he parachutes out last minute prior to the planes hitting the tower. This has all been edited out by the American govt………….IDIOTS………….
Posted by: skeptic | September 7, 2007, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
It’s interesting that while the US WELCOMES just about every person from a predominately Muslim to legally enter the country if they’d like and continue to worship in their desired fashion or not at all, yet Osama Bin Laden espouses an ideology that cleanses the Middle East and most of the world for that matter of Americans and anyone who refuses to believe as he does.
Also interesting that he “invites” America to embrace Islam, and yet doesn’t understand that America is one of scant few countries that truley embrace Islam. We also embrace Christianity, and Judaism, and Hinduism, and Atheism, and Aganosticism, etc.
Regardless of your political persuasion, I think the battle being fought is one between an ideology that embraces a coexistence of all of the best (and a tolerance of the worst) that the human mind and soul is capable of on one hand, and an ideology that will accept ONLY a complete capitulation by all to a prescribed point of view and belief system.
The fact that Bin Laden thinks that those of us in the free world would ever embrace that latter ideology that he represents, or that many of those people living under his concept of utopia don’t see and in fact prefer the value that the former ideology holds, shows what a simple mind he truly has.
Posted by: lamberts_lunatics | September 7, 2007, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Brian, you said:
He is using the rhetoric of those who offer him the means of victory.
That’s the single most coherent remark i have ever read! Well done.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Wow, alot of people believe this is fake.
What do you believe?
What will it take for you to believe it?
I dont think it matters, because you’ve already made up your mind that its America’s fault for all the problems in the world.
Take a REAL History class and maybe you’ll see the big picture.
If you read the transcripts you’ll see that Islamo-fascist dont care if your Repub, Dem, Lib, Con, Gay, straight, man woman, all they want is for you to be MUSLIM!
Which Government would you rather live in? Sharia law or Democracy?
Bush will be gone next year, then what libs?
Posted by: AJ | September 7, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Congratulations, LIBS….your new comrade ‘ol OBL is now your new General in charge!! Wow, would Hillary, Osama or John want to give him a Silver Star for bravery?? For me, I’m locked and loaded and ready to kick it into automatic!! Got my M-16, IEDs and other arsenal ready to take on whatever comes my way. Be afraid…be very afraid…of true patriotic Americans!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
All you liberal fools can keep chanting that President Bush lied as this murderous thug saws your heads off in front of your families.
Posted by: A. Saunders | September 7, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
9-11 was a hoax. In fact, the WTC towers didn’t really fall. They are still there, but simply wrapped in a cloaking material. The 3000 people we’ve assumed were dead are all being tortured in Guantanamo. Wake up!!!
Posted by: RosieO | September 7, 2007, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Forget Hillary, Obama and all the rest, HERE is REAL DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTIAL TIMBER!!! It’s without a doubt time for the Democrats to “Dump Obama, Draft Osama”! (AND…it would make a GREAT Bumper Sticker!)
Posted by: Rick | September 7, 2007, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
Alright, heres my 2 cents for those who care….
First i will say that neither conservatives or democrats do anything for me….there are good sides and badsides to every one of both parties…things htt each of the president-elects have that i find are valuable and not valuable….The fact is this….we are a country that needs a new voice…a country that needs to go back to the days when the world looked at us as a leader….Our country was not always hated and feared…It is trueu that President Bush (no matter how much u dislike him he is our president and should be spoken of, even if distastefully, with respct) has destroyed our international reputation, the middle east is for the most part our enemy, russia is ina new arms race and we have aliented some of our friends in Europe…but be that as it may, the war, the debt, the economy, the problems in general can not in reality be fairly traced back to one single individual…for that matter they cannot be traced back to one congress or one house of representatives, it is me and most others who allow the perfect system to elect the imperfect….yes it is great to type on a blog, but who here has visited a poor shelter, or has voted for the independant…probably not many….its not really completely our fault but whose fault it is is not the question…the question is how to get the people, the normal hardworking everyday american who lives and breathes in a small house, holds down a 9-5 and does his or her part to make the U.S. a little better, into a government office…experience as the democrats and republicans have been pointing out is an extremely important thing…well i disagree, they have money, “experience”, contacts and everything else and obviously they have showqn us just how little all that means when it comes to being a good leader…no someone dosent need to o the price of milk but understanding how hard it is to pay bills right now or the deficiency of our infrastructure is important…we need, as a counrty to rise up and unite…we need to say this is our country…we the people….we will refuse to relect u en-masse-should u continue supporting this or that…then they’ll listen…they just want to keep there jobs….its up to us to let them no what there jobs are…
All of us are Americans…black, white, mexican, indian, what makes this country great is all of us and our ability to awknoweldge our differences work together to solve them and progress towards a brighter tommorow…its not an impossible thought that we can solve every issue of our day…we just need to make the people we have to choose between now, truly represent us (not in words but it actions) or well take the other route and just start nominating and voting in new people who will do what we the American public desires….
America was, is, and will always be the best, i firmly believe that, with all our mistakes (or our leaders who in hindsight we might have not elected) we still are a compassionate, nation, full o hardworking people who do what they can to get by, we can and will continue to do great things, all we have to do is accept that recently we’ve had a string of mistakes and that we recognize, apoligize, and try our best to correct them…we WILL show the world that we are AMERICANS and we stand for the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Publius
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
If you look really close, you can actually see that it’s not Bin Laden, its George Bush dressed as Bin Laden….I heard he hired some expensive Hollywood make-up artist, they are part of the conspiracy as well…
Posted by: skepti | September 7, 2007, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
What’s in important to Americans is slowly been taken away by the politicians helping themselves and their lobbiests what they need. The debt is being denied, the value of the debasing dollar is ignored and the cost of living is better, so says our oun gov. because food and shelder in not counted in the data. To lie, steal, cheat and be corrupt is what has become important. To have look the other way we get OBL, Michael Jackson’ boy accussations, Vick’s dog fights and many more BS.
Posted by: david, philadelphia, pa. | September 7, 2007, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
to moronpolitics
my dear if we are presumably ignorant of you as far as culture …etc concerned, it is not a problem at all as long as we are not intervening in your affaires let alone attacking you in the name of the so- called security, freedom, DEMOCRACY. do you still remember Bush’s reasons for attacking Iraq? he’s big lair. ain’t he?
while i have a copy of the gospel and we never mention the name of Jesus without saying “peace be upon him” as we won’t be considered as muslims without believing in him, please mr. moronpolitics read some the replies i got from Dray who is really in dire need for a course in history and politics and Liperkin who wished the Holy Quran crumbel to dust. Liperkin read it first and don’t forget to read Mary Chapter and then wish.
Just for Liperkin, what is wahab ideology? any idea? and please my dear don’t be radical
Posted by: liberalsaudi | September 7, 2007, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Publus,
You are painfully boring.
There are no great moderates. You’ve got to believe in something. Do some reading and stop trying to sound arrogantly intelligent.
Your friend,
William Goodman
Posted by: William Goodman | September 7, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
He’s a dangerous fellow and all stops have to be pulled out to vanquish him and his kind (Islamic Jihadists). I have to admit, however, that I find that 2.5% tax rate he’s promoting pretty attractive. That’s one thing that separates him from the Dems.
Posted by: Harold | September 7, 2007, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
U.S. judge fines Iran for killing Marines in 1983 Beirut bombing
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/902040.html
Iran must pay $2.65 billion to the family members of the 241 U.S. servicemen killed in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, a federal judge ruled in Washington on Friday, calling it the largest-ever such judgment against another country.
Posted by: telecom1 | September 7, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Don’t be fooled by this faked video. Do you really think Osama is worried about grooming and dying his beard for this new video? Is it any concern to you that previous videos have been faked of Osama? Is it concerning that Osama was and still is a CIA asset? How about the fact that on the FBI’s most wanted list Osama isn’t wanted in connection with 9/11/2001? Supposedly Osama’s got bad kidney problems and needs dyalisis, but yet he lives in caves and makes video appearances just in time for 9/11/2007 to stir up the public once again. Wake up people… 9/11/2001 was an inside job and Osama is the boogie man we will never catch so the public thinks it’ll be ok to continue expanding our empire and taking away more and more of our freedoms to combat “terrorism”. The war on terror is a war on freedom designed by the new world order puppet masters of our government and media. I know you reading this are probably saying to yourself that I’m crazy, but take a look around you and ask yourself who’s shredding our constitution and bill of rights in order to combat “terrorism”? Ask yourself what the definition of “terrorism” is and then go look it up in the Patriot Act. This war on terror is a fraud designed to make us willingly turn ourselves into Nazi Germany in order to “protect the homeland”. I’m sick of you liberals vs. conservative idiots who think one side is for the people and the other side is for big government… It’s all controlled…It’s all big government… We’re all in trouble if you don’t figure this out… And by the way… The U.S. isn’t supposed to be a Democracy, it’s supposed to be a Republic… Look it up.
Posted by: Infowarrrior | September 7, 2007, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
If you believe that this video tape shows Osama bin Laden, you’ve got your head in a place where the sun doesn’t shine. He is DEAD! DEAD! DEAD! Bill Clinton could have stopped 911 but Bill’s totally failed war on terror was a disaster. He could have killed bin Laden but failed at that too. Clinton is the worst president for American safety in America history.
Posted by: haunyocker | September 7, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
I think Osama is disappointed with the Democrats – he clearly would have voted for them. Evidence that being in Iraq is the RIGHT THING to do!
Posted by: Anon | September 7, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Bin Laden calling for an end to the war and continues to push towards it. Maybe he’s a little shaken up that we could be making progress in Iraq.
Posted by: Adam | September 7, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
Once Osama is caught he should have at least 3000 pork sausages stuck in every orifice of his body to avenge the death of innocents of 9/11. A sick twisted sociopath. I hope Chomsky got the warm fuzzies by being mentioned by this sicko.
Posted by: Warrior | September 7, 2007, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm
“The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
The documents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.”
Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 10, 2006
Now it’s not at all likely they could be doing the same at home with OBL. No, not at all. Not at all.
Stay afraid and angry. Keep on ignoring your civil liberties being systematically dismantled by the Patriot Act (read it), Bush’s many executive orders (look them up), and the SPP (read their documents on Judicial Watch).
Posted by: It's Been Done Before | September 7, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
VOTE OBAMA & OSAMA 2008!!!!
They both have the same views and talking points!!
Hey democrats – looks like you have a new best buddy!!! He takes all of his talking points from liberals. What a sad sad state of afairs for democrats – Osama’s on your team!
Bin Laden is scared if a Republican wins in 2008 because then he will remain impotent and hiding in a cave.
Posted by: Plibber | September 7, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I know this might be difficult for some of you to understand, but finding a guy in an area that is remote and desolate yet sparsely populated with people that want to protect and shelter him is a just a little bit difficult. Let’s not forget we’ve been desperately looking for a guy that desperately wants to be found (if alive) and had an entire aircraft go with him in our own BACKYARD – Steve Fossett. I’m certain that is GWB’s fault as well somehow.
Because few of you dope smoking free loving if it feels go do it crowd understands how self discipline and the belief in a Higher Authority might influence (and potentially warp) one’s mind – you keep thinking it will all go away. It won’t unless the Muslims step up and cleanse their own. After all, let’s not forget this is all about finding a way to drag the Great Sat_n into a Holy War. Dems don’t understand that short of the U.S. and Israel being wiped out (or converted to Islam), this isn’t going to go away. You can pretend to make nice with the rabid dog if you’d like, but he is going to bite you because he feels it is his duty to do so. Anything less and he will consider himself a failure. Where are the Feminists and the Gay Rights groups on defeating this enemy? They should feel the most threatened. No society is more restrictive to womens’ rights than Islam. Reproductive rights? Same sex marriage? The staunchest neo-cons in the U.S. look very tolerant relative to what our country faces.
Posted by: Realist | September 7, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
They’ve either got OBL on the Republican payroll — like the handy appearance before the 2004 elections — or Karl Rove’s in a sound stage in Hollywood with a fake beard on. Why are we listening to this jerk, and oh, why is he still alive?
Posted by: Jim H | September 7, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
“Greg: OBL would already be did if Bush did his job right in Afghanistan. Also, the neoconservatives made up that name for themselves.”
Really, which Army Ranger unit was Bush commanding?
Posted by: Greg | Sep 7, 2007 7:57:36 PM
What kind of idiot are you: Bush is CiC, *in charge* of the dumb policy of drawing down in Afghan that the poor grunts had to follow, just when bin Ladin was in our grasp … of course he wouldn’t be up to being in the field himself as for example the Rangers – that’s why he went into the National Guard, to avoid direct conflict – and “other priorities” Cheney, and “anal cyst” Limbaugh, like other chickenhawks, got deferments entirely …
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Bin Laden is scared if a Republican wins in 2008 because then he will remain impotent and hiding in a cave.
Posted by: Plibber | Sep 7, 2007 8:36:12 PM
Uh, Bush was elected in 2000 and 2004, and bin Laden is still in a cave instead of either dead or captured because Bush took off for Iraq when we could have concentrated force in Afghanistan and nabbed him if we’d really tried.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
It’s really not a mystery, Bin Laden is not dead…he never existed. The US Govt. simply cloned Colonel Sanders, it’s all a conspiracy…I saw Mr. Laden working at the Kentucky Fried Chicken in Punjab.
Posted by: skeptic | September 7, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Only problem in here is the liberals who make excuses for OSB and give him cover, you punk liberals still think american’s behind it.
You think the passinger of Flight 93 where racist for fighting back against the “freedom fighters” as you would call them.
You people are the scum of the earth, and no doubt OSB is preaching to the choir when he speaks to the liberal Demorats.
Unbelievable!
Posted by: freetothink | September 7, 2007, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Chenny is the mastermind behind 911?!! You pea-brained evil liberal Neocommunists and OBL’s sympathizers, move out of America to those caves of OBL’s and stay there and don’t ever come back!!!
Posted by: shannangreen | September 7, 2007, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Realist: It is indeed hard to find someone like OBL, but we came close, and indeed drawing away resources made it harder. IOW, it’s not between 100% and zero chance of getting him, but with more effort continued in Afghanistan we would have had much better chance. Really, with even 1/4 of the (400 billion?) money spent so far in Iraq it would have been a good shot. Read “Operation Jawbreaker”, “Fiasco” etc.
Posted by: delver | September 7, 2007, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Oh yes it’s all Bush’s fault. He’s responsible for:
- global warming
- the coming ice age
- 9/11
- not killing OBL (wait! OBL didn’t do 9/11)
- our great economy (wait! it only helps the super rich)
- Making the US the envy of the world (wait! the rest of the world hates us… Wait! the rest of the world is trying to sneak into our country to escape the filth and poverty of their own county!
- Well it just has to be George Bush’s fault – it just has to be!
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
didnt tim robbins mention the 650,000 iraqi number recently? hmm…
Posted by: steve overturf | September 7, 2007, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
VOTE OBAMA & OSAMA 2008!!!!
They both have the same views and talking points!!
Hey democrats – looks like you have a new best buddy!!! He takes all of his talking points from liberals. What a sad sad state of afairs for democrats – Osama’s on your team!
Bin Laden is scared if a Republican wins in 2008 because then he will remain impotent and hiding in a cave.
Posted by: These Colors Dont Run | September 7, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Look, anybody that belives that tape is of Bin Laden is crazy….Osama Bin Laden is on vacation, he was seen sucking on a margarita on Miami Beach. He looked well and tanned and surprising relaxed.
Posted by: skeptic | September 7, 2007, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
What GOOD has OBL ever done ? He just beleives in destruction.
Posted by: Karla | September 7, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Why doesnt the mainstream media treat these Muslim fanatics like Nazis? They are just as evil and have the same goals
Posted by: Ralph | September 7, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Has anybody considered that there is just as possible OBL is dead and maybe for a long time already? If the fool was hit by a 1500lb bunkerbuster, he would have been vaporized.
What do you do with a region that makes killing a hobby? They kill each other more than the Westerners they profess to hate. Peace will never come to the ME whether we stay or withdrawl. It just doesn’t make any diffrence. Protect ourselves and let them fight each other.
Posted by: cj | September 7, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Karla, what good has OBL ever done? He just helped expose the Democratic party for what it is.
Thanks OBL!
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
When you smoke a lot of weed, studies say you can have psychotic episodes. For the conspiracy smokers, Bin Laden was doing his dirty work when Bill Clinton got elected! Was he a figment of Clinton’s? Here’s an intellectual thought from a conservative to you liberals: radical Islam came out of Saudi Arabia because there is oppression of the lower classes and no democracy. That’s how it got so violent. OBL has tailored his message to his ally, the pacifist democrats. He knows what makes you tick and he’s playing you. If this were proganda from Bush, you would think it would be extolling Bush’s work in Iraq. Think rationally for just a minute! You’re internally inconsistent in your opinions. If it were a “fake” video, gosh, don’t you think Bush could make it prop him up? Isn’t that the purpose/definition of propaganda?
Posted by: checkfacts | September 7, 2007, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
Bin Laden: rot in hell you sorry SOB. One day we’ll find you and you will pay for what you have done. You and all your pigs.
Posted by: Plain American | September 7, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Looks like Osama has been hitting the old “Just For Men” hair and beard coloring. What a vain bitch!!!
Posted by: Jemmy | September 7, 2007, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
UBL’s message is not to the American people it is to all the world that if we do not kill these bastards they will keep coming at us like cockaroaches. The idiocy of the “Lefties” that believe the Pentagon has mad this all up goes to show you how in denial they are. UBL attached during Bush’s watch. That means Bush had to strike back. What do you think would happen after such an attack that a USA president would sit back and “talk” with the enemay? what dope are you smoking. Just like snakes you have to kill or they will come back. We must kill as many of them as possible and fast!
Posted by: Sandy | September 7, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
In all honesty the only thing I saw through his speech was manipulative skills..Simply put he’s a man of war, no man of god, no man that serves allah. Any person can say they are fighting for a religion but when it comes down to it..they are only truly fighting for themselves. He can sit and moch GWB all he want’s..truth is they are both alike in so many ways…The mention of the Japanese being slaughtered by our nuclear weapons..obviously he had not done a clear enough background check as to why we did it. Obviously he did not look at it from our point of view, obviously he did not want to beleive we did it for a reason other than wanting to blow things up. It’s easy to see when someone lusts for blood or lusts for violence..it’s easy to see when someone lusts for power and lusts for attention. It’s also easy to see when someone is desperate, and Osama is indeed Bloodthirsty and Violent, Power hungry and an attention feind, as well as desperate. He can try and hide the facts all he wants but when it truly comes down to the situation at hand, he knew all along of America was capable of, and what we would do in a situation like so. We helped those in need, as I heard, I dont have all of the facts seeing that I’m only 18 but I’m also entitled to what I think so bare with me. After supplying support to those who were in need Osama did not like it so he retaliated with a series of attacks ranging from the first bombing of the WTC to 9/11 and so on and so forth. He preached about not wanting bloodshed but he had no choice to kill our innocents because we would not stand idoly by and watch the people of hte middle east be slaughtered by one another. What I’m getting at is that his manipulation comes into key play once more with this speech. Saying that we indeed are the ones craving war, when in fact he is the one to set us off, am I right? He knew of the consequences before hand I’m very sure, if he is such an american history buff that is, I could see that from his ranting within the speech, using situations such as JFK to explain some of his beleifs. I like to create my own quotes in times like these to prove a point to the people or my good friends in time of trouble, so here is one for you all to look upon. “He who is manipulated, skimmed through the book of words and hear only the most important words in a speech, he who is not manipulated understood all before him, and analyzed every bit of information he could before he made his true decision.” Or, simply put from Plato, “Arrogance is the root and stem of all evil.”
Posted by: James | September 7, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Ok first off, this whole Bush thing is yeh for the most part correct about what hes done to our standing internationally as for causing global warming or causing anything else except a war and resulting deficit and loss of international rep…theres nothing hes responsible for…while those are massive issues we do have to take responsiblity for electing him the second time, or at least those who voted for him do…and while it might be enjoyable to go on a bush bashing camapign its just as easy to blame the previous white house for not handling the problem, or the previous one before that…as for taxes that benefit the rich, yeh they do so we should change that…i mean look, as a country we do have problems but intstead of this blog being a place to actually sit here and praise bin laden (which disgusts me as it should any true blooded american) and joke about him running this should possibly, maybe, become a blog that takes ideas and maybe turns them into a brainstorm or a collection of posts on how to fix things, maybe with luck word will get out…i mean what better place to start a nonpartisan discussion on our problems then a blog cause i dont believe that we can rightly blame our leaders (that we elected Bush as president and democrats as our congrss) for showing partisanship when this very blog shows how much we on average can have a serious intellectual disscussion without a osama bid laden should run or Bush sucks….our leaders wont take us seriosuly until we begin to show them were serious
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
That’s not bin Laden! That’s Guy Smiley from THE MUPPETS!
Posted by: Scott T. Schlief | September 7, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
you anti-american bush haters have found an ally, and it’s the guy that masterminded the death of thousands on 9/11/01. hope you feel good that the America’s Most Wanted has the same mindset as you do, sickos.
Posted by: GP | September 7, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
After reading the transcript, Bin Laden actually makes a lot of sense. The only thing I really disagree with is forcing everyone to abide by the laws of Islam – I would like to keep religous freedom in this country. But pretty much everything else he speaks about is true. Scary.
Posted by: Diana | September 7, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
bin laden — may God boil you in oil you dirty bastard.
Posted by: meg | September 7, 2007, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
I want my 2.5% taxes! Allahu akbar, if that gets it!!!
Posted by: Donna Martin | September 7, 2007, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
hey bin laden… embrace THIS: [middle finger]
Posted by: meg | September 7, 2007, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Since I can’t trust the truthfulness of our government, I don’t know that this tape is an actual tape made by Bin Laden. Too many lies have been told, and too much corruption has come out of Washington for most of us to believe anything the administration or it’s cohorts have to say.
Posted by: Sasi1 | September 7, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
I like OBL. He’s probably a pretty peaceful guy one on one. He’s still needed by Cheney, that’s why they haven’t taken him out yet.
Posted by: frogman | September 7, 2007, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Um…you do know that even if we did continue our bad habbits..global warming wouldnt have a dominate affect on us until oh…5 more billion years or so? O.o
Posted by: James | September 7, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Publius – I just visited Mount Vernon (George Washington’s Home) with my family. Every American should visit there and learn. Freedom isn’t free. Sometimes you have to kick some ass and take names.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Devler,
I have not read the 2 books you mention, but have read several others. You made some good points.
One point I didn’t make, though I’m sure someone has by now: OBL doesn’t matter. I’ll repeat that for everyone to read again. OBL doesn’t matter. He matters in that he has become a lightning rod for this fight, but does anyone (ANYONE?) believe that the ideology that feeds this terror/war will end when his life ends? Absolutely not! He will be claimed as a martyr. If he dies in his sleep, in battle, from a mosquito bite etc. He is a hero to many. We can’t change that unless he is captured alive (and he doesn’t kill himself in captivity). Though I admit capturing him alive carries other risks of inflammation etc. The point is, this war doesn’t end with his life. So rather than blaming Clinton for screwing it up or GW for not focusing on it, either way, doesn’t matter. Dead or alive doesn’t matter much either way. This is WAY bigger than one man. WAY BIGGER.
Chomsky is likely proud to be mentioned because he’ll now sell more books and be able to charge higher speaking fees. He can’t help, but be pleased with himself.
Posted by: Realist | September 7, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Osama’s comments sound like a speech at the Democratic Party convention–except that he’s for lower taxes. Otherwise, the two are pretty much in sync and hate America about equally.
Posted by: steve holzer | September 7, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Quote”I wonder when Hillary is going to ask Osama for a donation to her campaign…or maybe he could be her VP..he says all the same things she and the other Democratic Candidates, he has a lot of foreign affairs experiance…he has proven defense experiance…I’m waiting fot him to moderate the next Daily Kos Democratic Debate!! Did you notice that you have never seen George Soros and Bin Laden in the same room?
Posted by: Retired_subsailor | Sep 7, 2007 4:09:25 PM “Unquote
Heck no, she doesn’t want another Cheney in the White House. Unlike Bush, She’s smart enough to make her own decisions!!!!!
Posted by: Sasi1 | September 7, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
I like OBL. He’s probably a pretty peaceful guy one on one. He’s still ignored by the Clintons, that’s why they didn’t bother to take him out when they could (should) have.
Posted by: BC14 | September 7, 2007, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
If democracy is so bad, why are Middle Easterners streaming into our Universities and never going “home”??? Guess democracy can’t be that bad, huh?
Posted by: Ronald | September 7, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Was that Osama or Harry Reid with a two week growth? Was it Osama or Dick Durbin in a turban? Show anyone rants from the Democratic leadership and Osama, and see if they can tell the difference.
Posted by: niteowl | September 7, 2007, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Hey that 2.5% alms sounds interesting. And all we have to do is to convert to Islam, grow beards, dye them black, cover our wives, and stop eating pork. Then we can live like kings! Just think of the awesome way of life of most Muslims in the Middle East. That could be ours in America!
Hillary-Obama 08
Posted by: G in Motown | September 7, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I thought it was a sin in Islam to address vanity issues. His apparent use of Just for Men hair dye in his beard, and the disappearing bags under OBL eyes, indicates an obvious attempt to look younger. If he is not careful with the cosmetic surgery, he might start looking like Kenny Rogers!
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
I like his beard.
Good commercial for “Just for men”.
how about ” just for terrorist”
Posted by: shankar narayanan | September 7, 2007, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Osama takes the democrats for fools. Can anyone blame him?
Posted by: Achmed | September 7, 2007, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
is they goin to be a 911 again
Posted by: brianna | September 7, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Congratulations, LIBS….your new comrade ‘ol OBL is now your new General in charge!! Wow, would Hillary, Barack or John want to give him a Silver Star for bravery?? For me, I’m locked and loaded and ready to kick it into automatic!! Got my M-16, IEDs and other arsenal ready to take on whatever comes my way. Be afraid…be very afraid…of true patriotic Americans!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Hey Obama, Obama, bo-bama, banana-fana fo-fama, fee-fi-mo-mama…Obama…Why don’t you commit jihad if you believe in your cause so much? Show us the way!
Posted by: Jenny | September 7, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Who was Bin Laden’s speech writer… Miss Teen South Carolina?
Posted by: David | September 7, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
We can introduce OBL to preferated TT.
Posted by: jbouti | September 7, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
I just learned the OBL will be playing the role of a American History college professor in the next High School Musical 5.
Posted by: jimmy | September 7, 2007, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
The combination of left-wing conspirancy garbage and islamo-fascist garbage begs for only one remedy: NUCLEAR CLEANSING OF THE HUMAN RACE AND PLANET. The sooner the islamo-garbage hits us the better….
Posted by: john | September 7, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Sounds like bin Laden got his hands on the democrat’s talking points. I think a special investigation is in order to determine why democrat leaders in Congress seem to be on the same page as Osama. Surely he doesn’t have a cell in our Congress.
Posted by: Tom Higginbotham | September 7, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Congratulations, LIBS….your new comrade ‘ol OBL is now your new General in charge!! Wow, would Hillary, Barack or John want to give him a Silver Star for bravery?? For me, I’m locked and loaded and ready to kick it into automatic!! Got my M-16, IEDs and other arsenal ready to take on whatever comes my way. Be afraid…be very afraid…of true patriotic Americans!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
If the left listens real hard, it can hear the sound of the worm turning.
Posted by: Jamaal | September 7, 2007, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Osama, as mistaken as he is on some issues, still shows that he is a whole lot smarter than the average American.
There is only one way to peace: Love your enemy.
When we finally leave the oil to themselves, and pay a fair price for it, they will still need to discover this basic truth, as will the politicized Americans on both the Left and the Right.
It is our inability to find peace amongst ourselves that makes finding peace with others impossible.
Posted by: the sad truth | September 7, 2007, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Kim i like ur thinking, nice post, i agree with u 100%
Publius
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Boy!!!! This soap opera is better than anything I’ve seen on any Telenovela on Univision. Do they (neo-cons) really think we are falling for this psy-op? Man this is pathetic. Even a conservative like myself just don’t buy into this propoganda anymore. It’s so obvious, including this blog. This blog allows HLS, DOD, CIA, FBI and every other govn’t acronym to gage what the american public thinks about this new Fake Obama video. And what we think is WE ARE SIMPLY TIRED OF THIS FOOLISHNESS. We’re just as tired of this as we are with the disassociated fools in our congress and senate not to mention the stooges in the judical branch. STOP THE LIES AND STOP THE MADNESS.
Posted by: William Tyndale | September 7, 2007, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Isn’t it interesting that you LIBs can only repeat moronic slogans like that posted above?? Is your buddy, George Soros, in hiding like OBL?? Can’t make any talking points, other than supporting OBL, can you LIBs?? Your time is short….OBL will be the first to take you out on any new attack….as for me, ready to lock, load and kick it into automatic! You LIBs don’t even know how a weapon (i.e., M-16) operates. Maybe OBL will let you be his slaves, unless he wants to entertain his buddies with a sharp knife on someone’s neck! You LIBs don’t really have a CLUE! Too bad, but that just leaves the rest of the USA for us true patriots when all the dust clears!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Osama uses “Just for Terrorists” beard and mustache colorizer, developed by the Bush family in secret caves under the Palos Verdes Penisula.
Sleep before it’s too late!!!
Posted by: Heather | September 7, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
The Constitution gives us the right to bear arms, so get ready for the coming war in America! With OBL and the LIBs together, it’s going to be a real PARTY!! Get ready for the action you LIBs!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:41 pm 9:41 pm
Well, the comments sure are proof that
people believe what they want to believe.
They would have a very hard time believing
the truth no matter how many facts given
them. It’s all great theater people, these
are masters of deception but the show is
so good who can not take it in. Mushrooms
flourish well with bulls— so why not
people?
Posted by: cinsere | September 7, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Hi. The binladen thing is to be expected. He knows a majority of americans are getting frustrated with the “war”. News flash….. It’s not a war anymore, nor has it been for some time. It is bassically an ‘occupation’ now and has been for some time.
Those of you guys who think this is a war, quit watching the military channel and getting all pumped up, and rather pick up a copy of “CEASER’S COMMENTARIES’ and find out what occupying ‘Babylon’ was like in his time.
You want bin laden? Get out of Iraq, and go hunting.
Dont give me this crap we need to stay because there will be civil war ,ladda, ladda,ladda….Ever thought of your own?? Hey! there’s an Idea!
50 billion here, 50 billion there. It’s a coporate operation and everyone knows it. The Dems wont pull out cause their in on it too. Im too old to sign, but I wouldnt if I could. There is nothing in our constitution, nor in past practice that says we have to fight for the profit of private corporations.We were sucker punched by Bin laden, and suckered by Boy George.We Americans are taking ourselves Hostage.
Posted by: mikey | September 7, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
you libs are so cute the way you let emotion take over and spam the board….. Yea,, Very cool
Posted by: shrkmrk | September 7, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Osama suffers from ED.
Posted by: Olimpyosama | September 7, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I am not worried.
President Hillary will protect me.
I will gladly hand over 60% of my income for taxes.
I just want to be left alone and continue to hate this lousy county while my boyfriend dorks me up the rear!
Posted by: AmericanProtector | September 7, 2007, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
I would just like to keep this one going untill evryone “gets it”
Posted by: John | Sep 7, 2007 3:53:22 PM
The reason Bin Laden crashed those airplanes into the Twin Towers was to goad the US into a quagmire in Afghanistan. I think he was sorely surprised about effortlessly his cohorts and the Taliban were routed. Bin Laden’s plan is to first: unseat what he considers the corrupt leaders in his corner of the world and push the US and other western powers out of the region. Secondly: establish a caliphate from Morocco to India. Thirdly, dominate the rest of the world by intimidating Europe and isolating the US. Bin Laden and those with like minds are perfectly capable of the most heinous acts of terror to pursue what they think is God’s will. They are perfectly willing to die for their cause – in fact, they look forward to dying for their cause as long as they get the chance to take their enemies with them. This mindset makes it impossible to negotiate or reach a fair understanding. They have given us no choice but to get them before they get us. This conflict is going to last for decades. It is a generational problem. The US and its allies will prevail and defeat Islamic Fundamentalist Facism just like it defeated Communism and the fascists of the 20th century. But, it is not going to be easy and it is not going to be cheap – either in terms of blood or treasure. I am afraid, however, that most Americans will not fully understand this threat until they hit us again. Its almost like Al Quaeda will have to detonate a nuclear device in Manhattan for most Americans to wake up and understand we are at war and have been for at least twenty years with these people. We are not at war with “Terror”. We are at war with real people who hate us because we stand in the way of their ambitions. It is not any more complicated than that. We will prevail in this conflict just like we have in all the others – but I am afraid it is going to scary in the interim.
Scott C.
Posted by: Scott Chrimes | Sep 7, 2007 3:53:52 PM
Posted by: Mr T | September 7, 2007, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
According to the transcript, bin Laden opens with “praise to Allah” and his “law of retaliation” — “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed.” It is by this very same “law of retaliation” that he is now in hiding (killer will be killed) and why two countries (perhaps more)in the Middle East are now under seige by this country. No surprises, really.
Posted by: Ernesto | September 7, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
LIBs have no conscience….evidence: OBL’s and LIBs talking points = SAME THING!! Oh, but we’ll take care of that later…we’re just waiting and biding our time until the ACTION STARTS!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Isn’t the toyota prisu your little sisters car? LOL Is it against the law to say faggot yet?
Posted by: shrkmrk | September 7, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
First of all, the main concern isn’t if Osama is alive or not. Personally, I believe he is alive and ready to infiltrate the minds of Americans stupid enough to be convinced by his slander on our country, our government, and our religions. But that’s just me. Even if he isn’t alive, that still means SOMEONE IS OUT THERE TERRORIZING AND TEARING APART AMERICA VICARIOUSLY THORUGH A MOVIE.
Second of all, can’t anyone realize that he didn’t choose the issues he talked about by coincidence? NO! It was planned. So instead of unifying to bring down al Qaeda, we fight about the issues he mentions. He is fueling the fire.
Third of all, for all you people who don’t believe the GOP cares about all the soldiers in Iraq. I’m 15. and have a brother at Westpoint, and two cousins in Iraq right now. One of them is pregnant. So everyone who is preparing, fighting, and dead…. Do we mock them by drawing out of Iraq? Nice. Good option…How about we kill those who are already planning on dying for their Allah anyways? (Called a Jihad, people. Research the Koran.)
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
Posted by: r.m.b. | September 7, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
OK eddie, ya sick pup. You sound like ya really got your head on straight, ya loser.
Posted by: hoset | September 7, 2007, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
What would BARACK HUSSEIN OSAMA, oops, OBAMA, look like with a beard? Anybody else notice the similarities. Same build. Same attitude towards our military. Osama is using the same democrat talking points in this latest rant that I’ve heard on the floor of the senate and house of reps, not to mention throughout our media. I think bin laden is writing the democrat talking points. I’d be embarrassed to call myself a democrat when most of them agree with most of what the filthy animal said. Except for the low taxes part.
Why does it matter wether he’s dead or alive. He’s been pretty much neutralized anyway. There are still 1,000,000,000 more of those insane demons to deal with. How do we get rid of all of them? Maybe engineer a new strain of anthrax that only effects goats. Starve them to death in other words. Just an idea. Hope I didn’t offend any of you. I know we are supposed to be tolerant and sympathetic of a religion that wants to exterminate the rest of us. So, I have two options to save myself and appease the great OSAMA. Convert to islam or the democrat party.
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
When I was in India, I witnessed the sectarain (between muslims and non-muslims) riots and curfew that followed. A muslim explained to me that the new converts to Islam were trying to get some attention to themselves. They were trying to prove that they were more Islamic than Mohammad. The muslim acquaintance further explained that the new converts prayed nine times instead of five to prove they were more Islamic than the rest.
In my assessment, the new converts are most dangerous because they will do anything to establish their new identity. I thing FBI and Scotland Yard should keep an eye on them.
Posted by: jon | September 7, 2007, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
U.S. judge fines Iran for killing Marines in 1983 Beirut bombing
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/902040.html
Iran must pay $2.65 billion to the family members of the 241 U.S. servicemen killed in the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, a federal judge ruled in Washington on Friday, calling it the largest-ever such judgment against another country.
These evil filthy hearted mass murdering terrorists will pay for their great wickedness.
Posted by: telecom1 | September 7, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
You IDIOT LIBs seem to only know how to repeat moronic slogans such as the above and can’t even compose a complete thought process in these posts! Seems like OBL has got your number!! Oh well, you people will only be hiding in holes and caves (like OBL) anyway when the real war comes to America! Just like the wimps that you are!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
if we are truly at war, and losing over there in Iraq is not an option…why not institute the draft…everyone says we have to draw down next year in any case…if the fight in Iraq is central to the war on terror…we should conscript all able body men and women into this fight…
Posted by: Why not | September 7, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
I understand he’s Hillary’s running mate. They needed a moderate to balance her out.
Posted by: Michael Spurlock | September 7, 2007, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Hey Eddie….where are the black helocopters? Got tin foil on your hat?
I am going to pray for you…..
Posted by: Eric Lintz | September 7, 2007, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Unfortunately, there are many LIBs on this posting tonight who only know minimal words and just repeat them many times in ridiculous slogans such as the above. Are you all relatives of OBL…it sure seems like it!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Whether the tape is real, and whether Bin Laden is alive is superfluous to the situation. How many of you actually know the history of modern jihad against the West. I’m not going to list all the embassies, military equipment, leaders, and private businesses that Bin Laden and Zawahiri have razed. You can look it up.
While you’re at it, look up Sayyid Qutb, he is akin to the Thomas Jefferson of modern Islam. These maniacs don’t care about any of the things in this video; its all propaganda. They really truly want to revive the Islamic caliphate, and claim the entire planet in the name of Allah.
George Bush did not create Islamic Terrorism, neither did Bin Laden. In fact, many of their fathers and fighters were US funded mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Bin Laden is a crazy Yemeni, who was given Saudi citizenship because his dad is a big construction Kahuna. He squandered all his wealth in Sudan, and now he whines like a baby because he has to live in a cave. Just like liberals whine because George Bush wants to take away their entitlements(read non-discretionary spending). This is why they make the same argument.
Posted by: Marc B. | September 7, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Well quess we will have to get Ron Paul elected and get out of there. Has anybody heard andything about the expensive U.S. Embassy building that isn’t being touched over in Iraq, nobody seems to talk about it?
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
As an American, I do not fear Osama Bin Laden. We can defeat him (if we would start trying for a change). What are we going to do about the idiots and fanatics in our own midst?
Posted by: bureaubasher | September 7, 2007, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Have you noticed how the libs have gone off the deep end on this blog? Guess they dont like being linked so closely with bin Laden’s talking points. It’s pretty funny seeing how hysterical they have become.
Posted by: thelibster | September 7, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I’m a “liberal democrat,” and frankly most democratic candidates don’t speak for me as OBL certainly doesn’t speak for me, either. I’m amazed at how many people in American write hate-filled diatribes about “liberal Americans.” How exactly does that make you better than those you hate? The reason OBL is such a problem is that he does hate, and he does believe in retribution for wrongs real and imagined, and he’s highly influential with many people of an extreme version of the Muslim faith. Let’s stop stooping to the level of knee-jerk reactions to other Americans of different political stripes and see if we can learn something from each other’s points of view. Most of the rants I’ve seen in this column are opinions based on feelings, not facts. No matter what our beliefs, we don’t strengthen our hand by reacting emotionally to each other. What does it serve us to hate our fellow Americans?
Posted by: Mindy | September 7, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
yeaaaaa, Eddie,,, riiiggghhhttttt
Posted by: shrkmrk | September 7, 2007, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
LOL, abc,nbc,cbs,npr,cnn all left wing prpaganda machines!
Posted by: jslab | September 7, 2007, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Sure OBL, less taxes? All in exchange for covering my face, not going to school, having to sew myself shut and marry my cousin, only to be thrown on his funeral pire when he dies? Sounds great!
Posted by: JGH | September 7, 2007, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
shrkm: i agree with what uve posted so far (except the draft thing i cant tell if that was rhetorical or not)so im curious about wht u think the most basic problem is in our nation right now
Publius
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I thought I noticed Hillary, Barack and John trying to grow beards and face the East on prayer carpets today. Are you LIBs all getting ready to do the same thing? We’ll be watching and will ask ABC to come take pictures and write articles such as the above to our humor!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
thelibster: i agree with u completely, nice to have someone finally on hear who is on the same page as me and not jsut spouting i hate my fellow americans slogans…so what do u think is the most basic problem facing America today?
Publius
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
I think the tape is a fraud produced by Michael Moore.
Posted by: Stan | September 7, 2007, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
I heard recently that Michael Moore got OBL’s daughter pregnant! Better watch your neck, Michael!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
why is it that the right wingers are so tough, but always find ways to avoid the direct conflict (bush and cheny – draft dodgers) and the left have answers but dont want to make any sacrafices of their own. Our country is full of idiots (80% morons 20% reasonable intelligent ) and face it its a lost cause and you better hope the countries of India and china have smarter people so the world can survive.
the rest of you idiots amd losers can go back to whinning and fighting each other till you die of old age or boredom. I live in the USA and embarrassed to say Europe and Canada have all the smart people – you morons all desrve the mess you put yourselves in.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
“Those who sacrifice their liberties for security don’t deserve either” – Ben Franklin
Hey “Real-News”
Was that quote by Ben Franklin before or after he called upon the commissioning of the U.S. Navy to fight the Barbary Pirates? Learn your history moron before you use it in a quote. You can’t have liberty without security. Prove I’m wrong. You can’t. No one can. Sound bites or quotes can not override the truth.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Steve Forbes, you are a greedy self centerd JERK. Grow up, paying taxes is a high class problem, what is yours ?????
Posted by: Brian | September 7, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Note to tim: Why don’t you grab a plane or boat and head out of this country yourself? Seems like you like Europe and Canada so much! Those of us who, by your numbers, are in the ’20% reasonably intelligent’ category will stay here and kick OBL’s butt and any other idiot that gets in our way! Sayonara, LIB!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
“I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.”
Well in that case, let me buy you a one way ticket to a much safer place far away from our evil govt–Iraq–
Posted by: Cigar | September 7, 2007, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Tom, politics.
Posted by: Blinkrevo | September 7, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
How can u people honestly call urself Americans, Americans are supposed to stand for right to free speech, this means that people of differing opinions can come together and hash out an agreeable compromise on a difficult issus and yetalmost 99% of this blog is people complaining about how everything is going to hell, how bad the other party is, how the conspirists are out to get them….give it a break, no wonder America is going no where fast in the worlds eyes, all other countries have to do is read crap like this blog to understand why our country is in such a hole, i mean i first typed on this blog hoping tohave an intelligent debate on creative solutions or at least arguments about policy or problems and alkl i have really seen is just completely idiotic comments posted over and over again like im to stupid to read, and its insane….for the people who wonder why there lives are miserable its because u people obviously dont understand that to find a solution u have to know what the real problem is, and to know what the problem is u have to pay attention and stop shouting random unintelligent conpiracy theories or attacks on people….ill liten to any argument as long as it has merit and can be backed with solid information
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
“the rest of you idiots amd losers can go back to whinning and fighting each other till you die of old age or boredom. I live in the USA and embarrassed to say Europe and Canada have all the smart people – you morons all desrve the mess you put yourselves in.”
Quit whinning Tim. Move to Europe or Canada then if your concerned about the idiots in this country, because then we’ll have one less.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Oh my god, someone mastered copy and paste tonight! Now I can sleep…
Posted by: Brian | September 7, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
problem is rob -is – wrong you are in the 80% – dumb. the country has been in a backward spiral for years. stupid knee jerk reactions to problems instead of thinking things through to a tougher longer term solution. That is why so many people hate us around the world because we take the easy – tough guy way – out of things and it backfires. Smart people find smart ways out of things – your kick ass mentality has solved nothing, could not even catch one guy. Dope.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
This is proof the Democrats/Liberals/Mainstream Media/Hollywood are on the side of the Islamist. Heck, let’s all become Muslims so we only have to pay 2.5% tax. That is if you are allowed to keep your head.
Posted by: Kurt Olney | September 7, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Let me get something straight.1- We were attacked by operatives of Osama Bin Laden.
2- Osam Bin Laden and his al-Queida organization was at the time of the attack based in Afghanistan.
3- Our military goes to Afghanistan and kills al-queida by the Bushel and toppels the Taliban Govt.
4 Osam Bin Laden gets away.
5- We are told by our government that Neihboring Iraq has weopens of Mass destruction, including atomic weopens according to Vice- president Dick Cheney.
6- We invade Iraq based on these “facts” and overthrow Saddam Hussein.
7- A pro American government is set up. THEN individuals elected to fill positions.
8- Saddam is Hung
9- Weopens of mass destruction are not found, intel turns out to be false.
10- American Leaders say we must stay however.
11- Osama bin laden is still Missing and very little is being done to find him.
12- 3700 American soldiers dead so far, 500 billion spent, no sign of leaving.
13- Democrat led oppisition say we must STAY
14 All of the above makes absolutely no sense.
15- WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON??
16- Im truely afraid to post what the above leads me to believe the presentpolitical affairs of this nation.
17- But I can state this much…IETHER our leaders are VERY VERY stupid, or it’s worse than I thought.
18- That thought sends shivers down my spine..
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
To Publius: Easy solution to your problem > LIBs leave US + we kill OBL/AQ = We, Patriots, have true freedom!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Why did they cut out the part where UBL asks Americans to vote for Hillary??
Posted by: Dominick Davis | September 7, 2007, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
No taxes in Islam? Which is why they have dirt roads and crappy community services.
Posted by: Roger | September 7, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
“Oh my god, someone mastered copy and paste tonight! Now I can sleep…”
Sleep well Brian.
Posted by: Tom | September 7, 2007, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Note to tim: you have no solution + you are in the 80% range + loves OBL + sides with LIB demoncrats = NO INTELLIGENCE!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
I’m a life-long Republican and conservative. I served for 5 years with the 1st Cavalry Division, the 7th Infantry Division, and the 18th Airborne Corps. I have two career military sons, one of whom is nearing the end of his second tour in Iraq. That said, if one forgets who the author is, I believe that Osama bin Laden’s speech has it about right.
We’ve been lied to and robbed by a bi-partisan criminal political establishment for decades. At present, these lying scum bags are trashing the Constitution and destroying our sovereignty with international agreements and failure to police our borders. In years past, when political sysems failed, the people overthrew the government. Our establishment has a new approach. It has decided to get a new PEOPLE! That is why neither party does anything about illegal immigration. It needs a new population of surfs.
Posted by: Frank Brady | September 7, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
After serving for almost 20 years in our military I have come to the conclusion that most Americans aren’t worth defending (reading liberal comments here only confirm that sentiment).
I say let the Islamists win. I will laugh my a$$ off when the first liberals get their throats slashed for complaining that daily prayer is too oppressive… It would be worth losing just to see that IMO.
Posted by: John | September 7, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
If Bin Laden is trying to convert Americans to Islam he attempting to do so in keeping with his prophet. Read Walter Martins work “Kingdom of the Cults” available via Amazon.com
Not for nothing and purely from a secular standpoint does he really think he can ask Americans to sell out? If it were for the buck people could just fly over their and live in opulance :)
America, America God shed His grace on thee … and give us the insight to be humbly grateful for it.
In Memory of D James Kennedy previously of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church
Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
that fact that after seven years we are still listening to this nut case and his video messages tells us something about our incompetent government, maybe they want him out there so they can control us through our fear. and you dopes are dumb enough to fall for it – when its our crumbling economy that is the real problem ( a trillion in Iraq aint helping)
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
To Mikey: look im part liberal to, im republican in that i think taxing is nessasary and i think defense and a strong foregin policy is important but i also believe in fixing the healthcare system and our enviroment, not all libs are bad, in fact (at least before i got on here and i pray these libs dont reppresent the majority jsut like i hope these repubs dont represent the majority) that they are nessarsay, for demorcary to work u have to have to opposing sides to find a middle solution…i think the demorcats and republicans are right and wrong thats why u need biparticanship that all importnat ablitly to work together becasue both parties have something to offer its just a mtter of comproise…so i sont think that either the republicans or democrats should leave this country…the only people i think should leave this country are the people who hate this country
Publius
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
You mean if I pay 2.5% I too can live in a cave as well – Yippeeee
Posted by: Warren | September 7, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Our democratic leaders do get briefed on much more information than the public… and they continue to fund the war
why not let them do their jobs that we elected them to do? you are being led around by the media like a trained monkey
Posted by: Thomas | September 7, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Why don’t you LIBs just print out a picture of OBL from one of these web sites, cut around the edges, take picture out, enlargen it, tie a string around it and wear it for a Halloween mask? That way, you’re sure to get many treats at LIB’s residences on Halloween!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
So. OBL is basically pushing the far left agenda. That ought to tell Americans something. Don’t vote for Democrats!
Posted by: Michele | September 7, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
DEAR AMERICANS THIS VIDEO TAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN IS NOTHING BUT A JOKE BEING PLAYED BY THE DEVIL BUSH N HIS SATAN CRONIES WHO HAVE BROUGHT DEATH N DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD IN GENERAL N UNITED STATES IN PARTICULAR, THE DEVIL BUSH SHOULD BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES LIKE THE BUTCHER OF BAGHDAD,JUST ASK THE DEVIL N HIS SATAN CRONIES AS TO WHY THEY DO NOT SEND THEIR OWN CHILDREN TO IRAQ N AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: hothead007 | September 7, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Why is it that Osama and Obama think and talk so much alike…..?? Something to ponder…..
Posted by: Dominick Davis | September 7, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Where is an English translation of the ObL tape? This, not media drivel, should be available to the American people.
Posted by: Kevin Cahill | September 7, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Frank. Good point. I think alot of folks in this country can not begin to concieve of the possibility of elitist political thinking taking action.
Since the fall of the soviet threat, no one has been around to offset Geo-political kooks in this country. “Who can stop us now?
I personally dont believe this democracy was intended nor set up to be a superpower. That title was thrust on us at the end of ww2. Up til then we were nothing on the international scene, and bassically still a rural economy.
All the superpowers up til then… England, France Germany, had to historically maintain their empire by force.
I think we are testing the waters as we speak.
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
I suddenly feel dumber for reading almost every post on this stupid blog. From Left to Right and all posts in between….good God I hate the Internet sometimes.
It’s always bitch bitch bitch, whine whine whine, government lies, government is out to get me, I hate this guy and I hate that guy…ENOUGH!!!
Free speech isn’t free when it’s cluttered with nonsense.
Posted by: Mike Achertz | September 7, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
What’s the difference between the democratic party platform and islam? LOW TAXES.
Posted by: usa lover | September 7, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
you guys are suckers, all wrapped up in your hate of liberals and neocons and Islamists etc. Preaching this and that, its all about the money and how they control you. Face it most of you are losers, no where, with no lives and no money and power – otherwise you would not be here ranting. All these powerfull people (OBL, Bush and Clinton family) with money are laughing at you and your problems.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
So……where is this video linked at? Nowhere? Thought so.
Posted by: Coolio | September 7, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Note to Mike: Is OBL’s message pleasing to your ears then, if you don’t like the postings on this internet blog??
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
I think Osama was on the Glen Beck radio show. A weekly episode of “Moron trivia”
Posted by: Publius | September 7, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
Note to tim: If you say that most folks on this blog are ‘losers’, then why are you here? Very ironic, isn’t it, buddy??
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
“DEAR AMERICANS THIS VIDEO TAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN IS NOTHING BUT A JOKE BEING PLAYED BY THE DEVIL BUSH N HIS SATAN CRONIES WHO HAVE BROUGHT DEATH N DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD IN GENERAL N UNITED STATES IN PARTICULAR, THE DEVIL BUSH SHOULD BE TRIED FOR WAR CRIMES LIKE THE BUTCHER OF BAGHDAD,JUST ASK THE DEVIL N HIS SATAN CRONIES AS TO WHY THEY DO NOT SEND THEIR OWN CHILDREN TO IRAQ N AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: hothead007 | Sep 7, 2007 10:36:57 PM”
Okay, so does every Democrat believe this? If so, instead of blogging some wannabe clever response, do some soul searching, and research how Americans acted and reacted to enemies both foreign and domestic during WWII. If after doing so you still feel as our insane, all-capping friend here above, I weep for you.
Posted by: Kyle Coppola | September 7, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
What’s the only difference between John Edwards and Osama bin laden. Edwards spends a fortune on haircuts.
Posted by: usa lover | September 7, 2007, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
More proof that the rhetoric of the democrat [sic] party and Al Qaeda are indistinguishable.
- Yeah, like the appeal to cut taxes to 2.5%! Oh, wait, that’s the Republicans who are always going on about cutting taxes…
Posted by: ironeous | September 7, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Note to tim: That’s where you’re wrong: I’ve got more money than you have in two million times your ‘piggy bank’!!! I don’t need to make money and can only laugh at your ignorance! If we’re all morons out here, then why are you still on this post…hhmmm, buddy??
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Yay!!! 2.5% taxes ..sign me up to be an Islamofascist Jihaaaadi…lalalalalalala.
If anyone ever had any doubt about fighting this war, this statement should bury it.
Bin Laden gives two choices — they give up or we embrace Islam. Which do think Bin Laden is hoping for?
Posted by: TJ's Anti-contrarian Blog | September 7, 2007, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
no weeping neccessary, as the heroic people of earleir times (WWII and before) are unfortunately gone and replaced with gutluss liars who are bought off with special interests.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
I am disappionted that I even read anything that BinBoy wrote, he is dead!!,let us not make him Elvis,,please, he does not deserve this merit.
Posted by: Touz | September 7, 2007, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
It’s just more proof that the Saudis and the neocon crowd are pulling the strings on the whole thing.
Posted by: Reality | September 7, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
getaclu – you maybe right becuase in the end we all will be losers
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Note to tim: Not angry, tim, only SMARTER!!…. ;-)!!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
“England, France Germany, had to historically maintain their empire by force.”
If the above you mentioned were such superpowers how come we had to save their asses in WWI….or if England was usch a superpower how can a bunch of American farmers kick their ass in the late 1700′s.
Did you miss history class ??
Posted by: GC | September 7, 2007, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
Eureka! We’ve discovered the real identity of Osama bin Laden. It’s Al Gore, but he’s become a flat taxer.
Posted by: Sam Adams | September 7, 2007, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
So why is the number 1 criminal responsible for 911 still free. Of course this is what Bush planned and is happy to see. This is what allowed him to convince enough people to invade Iraq. So what did Iraq have to do with OBL – nothing of course.
It just amazing that we are spending more than $3 BILLION a week to occupy Iraq and OBL is still out there.
Let’s see the supreme court appointed Bush as dictator in 2000 and Bush ignored all the data to prevent 911 and then claims he will do anything to cause OBL.
Just 6 years ago, gas was $1.25 a gallon, we were not spending $3 billion a week to occupy Iraq and after 911 the world was on our side to fight the true terrorist.
Posted by: jhnnybgon | September 7, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
We’ll only lose if we don’t keep fighting……
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Osama isn’t the threat, but simply the latest incarnation of it.
Terrorism is based entirely on the Islamic theological structure, and presented as an ‘edict’ from ALLAH.
This religion has given rise to violence as a method of intimidation and political motivation (just ask the caroonists). It’s evil based on an ideology that doesn’t permit, but instead insists, that infidels (such as you, my liberal friends) be turned by the sword.
It (Islam) represents world domination, the subjugation of women (ALL WOMEN) and BLIND faith in exchange for crimes against humanity, sold to an ignorant middle-eastern public in exchange for promises of sexual bliss. Seriously.
Women everywhere should be righteously pissed, and N.O.W. should be demanding changes and marching through the streets. Their democratic handlers won’t allow it, though.
Sorry to let the loonies (read: conspiracy theorists to stoned or illiterate to comprehend) down, but muslim extremism, and the terror tactics they perpetuate have been here since long BEFORE GWB or OBL.
Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Sometimes I think I can see why we have enemies who think we ought to be put out of our miseries.
The likes of some of these posts reveal a pretty poor mental status with regard not only to the issue at hand, but to communication in general.
People who can not discuss an issue with senseibility need to stay home.
The fact that those types are politically motivated is not enough to enter the fray. Say something worthy of discussion.
Also names like “libs”, and cheap political shots dont intimidate anyone. We have more to be fearful of in this day and age.
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Who gives a rip, it is just a matter of time and we will totally destroy Iran and then bomb the Pakastan/Afganastan border. Get ready for more “shock and awe”
Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Lets think about his comments on big enterprises running our country. Their deep pockets buy politicians to sing and dance to their tunes. Undeniable. It is happening in this country.
How can we weed out lobbyists from our system? When will our congress men and senators work for the people who voted for them more than they work for special interests groups and enterprises? Its not right wing – left wing, but the candidate you choose that matters.
Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2007, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
You liberal pukes seem to always forget that your hero Clinton had OBL in the sniper sight twice and didn’t take the shot (coward). He did nothing after WTC 1 bombing, USS Cole…oh the list is endless. Your hero got us where we are today…..no iy actually started with the liberal asswipe Jimmy Carter kissing Ayatollah Khomeni’s ass in 1979 and lettin him overthrow the Shah of Iran which changed the entire middle east. Clinton was just the 2nd appeaser. Do your homework before spewing your communist vomit.
Posted by: GC | September 7, 2007, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Note to Mikey: Please learn how to spell, i.e., “People who can not discuss an issue with senseibility need to stay home”…per your post!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
His comments about the genesis of the war, the conduct of the Democratic Congress, and the frustrated expectations of the American people unfortunately ring absolutely true. I think we should give the man a safe conduct pass to testify before Congress. He does, however, inadvertently indicate that he has difficulty admitting the real scope and nature of his own guilt for 9/11. He obviously has diminished in his own mind his evil behavior, as he claims responsibility for killing “your sons” on 9/11. He infers that he killed soldiers, or at least young men of martial age, when in fact the victims were old and young, women and babies, innocent civilians all. This behavior is prohibited by Allah, and Osama knows it. Poor Osama can’t admit that he has committed crimes against Allah, and against innocent mankind. It is this unconscious denial of the truth about his guilt, which makes him psychologically very vulnerable to being captured or killed, if we only had a President who was really interested in doing so.
Posted by: Digger | September 7, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
getaclue, ok Mr. Gladiator, when will people ever realize that its money and business that carry the day. Did you think the Soviets collapsed because we beat them in a fight? No their economy collapsed. Will Bin Laden ever beat us in fights, no, but he is trying to trick us into defeating ourselves by making us be stupid and kill our economy through spending money on Iraq -
and other waste of money (homeland security in nebraska etc). You dont see that our biggest problem is that China and India are kicking our ass you dummies.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Man someone did a good dye job on Bin Laden. I didn’t know they had barbour shops in the Hindu Kush.
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
Wow my posts keep getting deleted. After reading this transcript, go watch Bushes comments on it. Its just a tactic to get support for the War. Leaving IRAQ is the only logical choice. Anyone remember Lebanon? We aren’t going to change 1.2 billion peoples way of thinking, and if we think we can, this country will go so broke it will be ripe for the taking from true threats. I am with Ron Paul, just come home. Staying there is the most dishonorable thing we can do.
Posted by: Cody B | September 7, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Their are no taxes in Islam but you do have to sit out in the hot desert sand and eat camel crap!
Posted by: Clint | September 7, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Note to tim: Please go live in either China or India then. We won’t miss another LIB anyway!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Finally! A third-party candidate for President with a mainstream platform! Bin-Laden and Bloomberg in 2008!
Posted by: Binnie | September 7, 2007, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
GC….. For your info, England’s history didnt start with ours. They were an empire with holdings all over the world at various times in history.
BTW… We did not Kick England’s ass in the 1700′s. We revolted and went to war and won, but we beat a small portion of the english army. England survived unscathed. (other than losing a colony).
Btw, at the height of these empires, democracy was not the rule. They were Dictatorships. Empires of force and democracies tend not to work. Dont bring up Rome’s senate iether, because the senate had no balance of power with the king…
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Can’t argue that point on china….after all Clinton was duped by their nuclear program. Remember…Clinton trusted them that they said they would quit making nuclear weapons…LOL
Oh I forgot…the Chinese slept in the White House while Bill was there. I wonder what level of national security was breached there.
Posted by: GC | September 7, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
China and India are kicking their own asses. They will pollute themselves into extinction.
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
China and India are kicking their own asses. They will pollute themselves into extinction.
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
rob is good example of why we are heading downhill, stupidity. if you dont like it leave blah blah blah. he is a dummy. The answer is to realize we need to do better, reverse the trend, work harder and smarter – dont vote people in that will make stupid decisions and waste your money. Improve the education system so there are less Rob’s.
Posted by: tim | September 7, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
A new Zogby International poll released yesterday shows that 51% of Americans (up from 45% last year) want Bush and Cheney to be directly investigated for their actions on 9/11 and 67% fault the 9/11 Commission for their failure to probe the anomalous collapse of WTC 7.
Hours after the release of the poll Bin Laden pops up and promises us a new editorial comment. Coincidence? Precisely the same thing happened last year. On May 23rd 2006, a Zogby poll was released showing nearly half of Americans wanted a new 9/11 investigation. The very next day, Bin Laden popped up to reinforce the official version and threaten new attacks. Can lightening strike twice in the same place
Posted by: scott | September 7, 2007, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Note to tim: All you LIBs can do is resort to name-calling. Too bad, you are the one who shows his own ignorance. And, oh, by the way, please turn out your lights when you leave to either China or India. Remember, you LIBs like to do all the ‘green’ stuff…right??
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
It could be all about the oil thingy. Paying $3.09 gallon now hasn’t conviced me yet…but if the oil starts to flow from the 2nd biggest oil reserve in the world (Iraq) and I start paying a $1.50 a gallon again and Iraq resembles a nation of laws and governs itself through elections and they bcome involved in the global economy…who’s to complain.
Posted by: GC | September 7, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
It’s Friday night and I’m Free. Cold one in hand. Not worried about an attack on My Country, My Family, or My property. I worked all week in conditions most would not. THIS IS FREEDOM!
Posted by: RYAN | September 7, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
GC– I know how to spell. However, thinking through a keyboard is not natural. I think an astute reader will get the gist of a conversation with some technicalities aside.
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
I can’t believe a single person would agree or side with anything this idiot is saying whether he is right or wrong!! Wake up people your praising a terrorist that killed over 3,000 Americans!! As for all the Bush bashing Democrats, do you really think anyone of the democratic nominees is going to be good for the country?? Give me a break….someone said it right in an earlier post, put down your Play Stations and wake up.
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Not posted, I must of hit a nerve some
where.
Posted by: cinsere | September 7, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the Public Treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the Public Treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy always followed by dictatorship.”
Alexander Fraser Tyler (18th century historian)
Enter the DEMOCRATIC party.
The true threat to our economy are those who wish to gain for that which they have not earned, not the active promotion of justice against maniacal murderers such as OBL.
What better method than to obfuscate facts and distort history to present the 9-11 attacks as a conspiracy?
I say the real conspiracy is the attempt to label fellow americans (and the Executive) as liars and murderers, so the money from the democrats can start rolling back in to those food stamp accounts.
After all, it’s hard to type on the internet all day without the CHEETOS, and the democrat’s base can’t afford them without the substantial hand-outs Bush’s tax cuts (for productive american families) have reduced.
Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2007, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Republicans HATE America
VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008
Posted by: Mike | September 7, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Some of you should read the article before posting. Calling everyone dumb because “you think democratic means the Democrats”.
I’m afraid you are wrong. He did say the following
“People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there.”
Posted by: paul | September 7, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
This is clearly OBL’s way of justifying his next plan. He is trying to make it seem like we are all at fault for our own actions, democrats, republicans, anyone…
Posted by: Matt Strayer | September 7, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Satan, your right. A dem wont change nothing. They want to stay too. but it isnt the average dem that’s at a loss. It’s the average bush policy backer that confuses Osama with Iraq. Who’s really got their head in the sand?
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
No, tim, I’ve got an MBA, whereas your intelligence is very, very questionable! Too bad though, unless you’ve got more than 2 million times what’s in your ‘piggy bank’…. ;-)!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Regarding 2.5% taxes. he is not referring to a government body taxing you but a religious body. he is referring to Islam’s zakat being 2.5% as opposed to Christianities 10% tithes.
Posted by: Michael | September 7, 2007, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
The DemoLibs surely don’t lack for self-esteem – they KNOW they are right about everything and the rest of us are just ignorant little minions or worse yet – brain washed neo-cons. They are quick to equate the abberant behavior of a very few US troops under fire to the “terror by design” tactics of the Islamo facists. The reality of course is that the Jihadists are determined to subjugate / kill everyone else, including the DemoLibs. There’s a disconnect here somewhere.
Posted by: Jack Frost | September 7, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Unreal stuff. Its pretty clear that Osama has some allies right here in this country and on this site.
In fact, Osama seems to hate Mr. Bush LESS than the Liberal Democrats do.
It can only be, therefore, that the people who are writing against Mr. Bush (and by default as a result against the USA) are members of Al Qaeda themselves or at the least sympathetic to their cause.
Wake up people…if you hear yourself saying stuff worse than what Osama says, you will understand why we call you traitors.
Posted by: George | September 7, 2007, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Love all the Lib conspiracy theories on this comments thread. Can they be counted?
I do understand OBL’s admiration of Noam Chomsky, however.
Posted by: Air2air | September 7, 2007, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Finally a smart post by someone!! Good job George!!
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
A new Zogby International poll released yesterday shows that 51% of Americans (up from 45% last year) want Bush and Cheney to be directly investigated for their actions on 9/11 and 67% fault the 9/11 Commission for their failure to probe the anomalous collapse of WTC 7.
Hours after the release of the poll Bin Laden pops up and promises us a new editorial comment. Coincidence? Precisely the same thing happened last year. On May 23rd 2006, a Zogby poll was released showing nearly half of Americans wanted a new 9/11 investigation. The very next day, Bin Laden popped up to reinforce the official version and threaten new attacks. Can lightening strike twice in the same place
Posted by: scott | Sep 7, 2007 11:25:22 PM
Hey, Scott. I’ll bet 51% of Americans think Elvis is still alive.
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
Well said ED. As long as the Dems keep feeding people social services free of charge….that will be the fall of our democracy as we know it. Otherwords it’s government dependancy taking us down. Why do you think so much of the Dems voting base is minority poor. The Dems keep them down to insure their vote. Why should they be dependant on themselves…they have big bother government feeding them through the working mans taxes. Thats why Hillary has planned a tax increase 3x bigger than her husbands…which was the biggest in US history. SHe gets in…you will see our military disinegrate.
Posted by: GC | September 7, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Time for some perspective. We Americans live in a country that has done more in less time and with less people than any nation in world. Think about it. We were founded as a nation 230 years ago, yet somehow we’ve risen to become the most dominant economic/military country on the planet. How did that happen? Was it on accident? Were all of the great American inventions over the last 200 years just a series of very lucky discoveries? And why hasn’t countries with greater population (China) or greater land resources (Russia) or better think tanks (Germany) or more compassionate people (France) become great in the way that America has become great?
We are a country that have thrived by offering personal freedoms to its people who have in turn, been more productive than people from other countries. It’s that simple. And some amount of the hatred we receive from other peoples is nothing more than jealousy.
If freedom and democracy are right, then it’s worth fighting for and it’s worth being hated for. Don’t ya think?
Posted by: timothe | September 7, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
I’m sick of republicans and democrats trying to say that this tape is propaganda against their party.
First, I’m going address a few questions.
1) Is this real or fake?
It’s possible it’s a fake, since Osama’s beard seems to be trimmed, something that is against Islam. Until we know for sure that it’s fake, it should be treated as real.
2) Propaganda?
Obviously, it’s propaganda. It is NOT Republican or Democrat propaganda. Don’t say that it is, because if you do, it proves that your loyalty is with your party and not America.
3) Whose side are you on?
I am not a Republican or Democrat. I’m actually against both parties because of the corruption of their leading members.
To say the least, most of Osama’s speech is pro-Democrat anti-Republican, there is no denying that; there is, however, an anti-Democrat section in it, which I will now give my opinion on.
“the vast majority of you want it stopped.”
I for one want the war to be stopped. When I say stopped though, I want it to be won by America. I want the war to stop with the extremists completely annihilated. I don’t want the war to be stopped, as in instantly pull out.
“Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there.”
I see multiple things in this.
1) Osama is mad that the Democrats didn’t pull out like they said they’d do.
2) Bush is as liberal as the elected Democrats.
3) The Democrats aren’t really against the war.
Think about what I’ve said. I am no party loyalist. Both sides are corrupt and care only for themselves and their wallets in my opinion. Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides; I’m not too stupid to realize that.
If anyone bothered to read my whole comment, congrats.
Posted by: Scott Carrier | September 7, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
all the zogby polls tells us is 51% of this country is braindead.
Posted by: getaclu | September 7, 2007, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
This administration has lied to us so many times. Do you even know why we are there? If you have any morals, you would be for a pull out. We went in without a deceleration of war, met the two goals congress allowed Bush to do, we should have came home then. Now we are the ones pro-longing the inevitable, and breaking international law, and our constitution.
Posted by: ds4081 | September 7, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Ed….. 500 Billion in an occupation that wont work. 500 billion in WORKING TAX REVENUE to corporate war profits? and your worried about FOOD STAMPS??
Your worried about money being spent to Help AMERICANS??
You guys act like every penny ever collected would be given away to some welfare mama. LOOK AT THE SPENDING PIE on any fiscal year budget and see where the cash goes.
This Democrat spending spree fear is old hat. The conservitives are giving away alot more than the dems EVER HAVE. The repubs just make you THINK they dont.
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Osama has an adult son who married Zawahiri’s daughter a few years ago. I suspect the son’s voice is close enough to Osama’s to pass voice analysis and that his is probably the one we’ve heard in recent years. Indeed, have we ever had a good voice sample to compare new recordings with? I can’t substantiate that beyond a suspicion but it’s interesting that as time goes by, the media-savvy al-Qaeda’s recordings have grown progressively worse in quality.
Posted by: Jon | September 7, 2007, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Note to Mike: If you say, “Republicans HATE America” and “VOTE DEMOCRAT 2008″, then why do you love OBL so much?? He seems to be your and your fellow LIBs new hero now but still ‘HATES America’ and wants us all to convert to Islam!! Good call, Mike!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 7, 2007, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
George….. You say the dems hate Bush more than bin Laden…… MAYBE, after all, He’s OUR PREZ NOT HIS.
Posted by: Mikey | September 7, 2007, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
It is pretty depressing to read these comments. I find it appalling that people can blame the government for 9/11 and that both sides can shovel blame upon each other. Everyone, dems and conservatives, need to realize that the other side is not the enemy. We have a common enemy. Until we realize that and fight them AS ONE, I’m not confident we’ll be successful in this conflict.
Posted by: Steve | September 7, 2007, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Just over 40% of all Americans receive some sort of government welfare (handouts). That’s what is going to take this country down.
Posted by: 57 | September 7, 2007, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Republicans and Democrats aren’t the same. We hear this often because both parties are lead by NEO-Conservatives and NEO-Liberals(which are the same), which are slowly converting there party members to rationalize there agenda, and throw morals right out the window when doing so. America can still be great, don’t be Con victim.
Posted by: ds4081 | September 7, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Thanks for the kind words GC.
I agree with your points regarding the democratic voting base. I would point out that JFK was the first president to prove that cutting taxes raises revenue and that the rich in this nation already pay over 90% of the taxes.
A fair question might be: How much of our nation’s costs should they pay? What would make liberals happy? 95%, 98%? Hell, let’s make it a full 100%. Than the democrats can feel very important by handing out their (our tax dollars) money for the ‘love’ of their subjects.
At the very least we can take heart in the fact that by forcing us into wars we don’t the terrorists are helping advance our economy (military spending equals money in real americans’ pockets) and our technology. A small reward for our lost men and women, but I’ll take it over the promise of virgins anyday.
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (welfare), the money of their constituents.” — James Madison
Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2007, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Why is it that libs *love* American gov’t when they are in charge, but it is the most evil thing in the world when conservatives are in charge?
Posted by: Doug | September 7, 2007, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
America is great…Not can be great!
Posted by: Chris | September 7, 2007, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Great post Alan!!
Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2007, 12:02 am 12:02 am
This video AND 911, were BOTH set up by BUSH AND BIN LADEN (THEY’RE BUSINESS PARTNERS, AS WELL AS GOOD FRIENDS)!!! AS YOU KNOW, BUSH CANNOT RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY AGAIN, SO THEY HAD BIN LADEN SPEAKING AGAINST HIM, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SEEM MORE REAL, BUT THEY ALSO HAD HIM SPEAK AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS! WAKE UP, WE’RE BEING PLAYED!!!!!
Posted by: ohpleeease | September 8, 2007, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Alan you said “At the very least we can take heart in the fact that by forcing us into wars we don’t the terrorists are helping advance our economy (military spending equals money in real americans’ pockets) and our technology. A small reward for our lost men and women, but I’ll take it over the promise of virgins anyday.”
This war isn’t helping the American economy, in the long run it is breaking it. The Dollar is inflating at a rapid rate because of the Fed Reserve printing to much money to keep this economy looking like its doing well. I guess if you think borrowing 3 billion a day from foreign countries = booming economy then you are in for a rude awakening.
Posted by: ds4081 | September 8, 2007, 12:05 am 12:05 am
The fact that Osama wants us out of Iraq and the region is no suprise. The fact alot of American citizens want us out of Iraq is no suprise.BUT FOR DIFFRENT REASONS.
I do not tolerate Right wing Political people equating my reason with Bin laden’s resoning. They are worlds apart. The fact that right wingers cannot comprehend the diffrence reveals they are very stupid, or using the comparision for mere political reasons.
To those of the stupid camp… Dont you dare compare me to Osama Bin laden. Those accusations are dangerous and probably ILLEGAL.
To the ignorant camp…. I want out of Iraq so we can find and KILL OSAMA. He wants us out so he can strengthen his domain. GET IT??
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am
I concur Ed and point well taken. I do believe though if alive today….JFK would be a Reublican as well as FDR.
Posted by: GC | September 8, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Doesn’t bin Laden realize that he is now irrelevant? And to say that our only hope is to become Moslems is absolute pie-in-the-sky thinking. The man is an idiot.
Posted by: farrows | September 8, 2007, 12:09 am 12:09 am
Rob Is Right… Are you accusing me of being a pro Bin Laden operative? According to your post you are. Are you willing to go to court with that accusation? Are you willing to go to court with proof of your accusation?
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
This is just a precursor to Bush’s plan this year to attack Iran before he is out of office…. Lets get the American public pumped up for the Iranian War next.
God we are sooooo stupid!!!
I wonder how much this guy got paid to do this video …. regardless if it is Osoma or not.
Posted by: Cabby | September 8, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
I’m so sick of all you liberals who bash our country, bash our troops, president, senate, and congress.
Posted by: irishrose | September 8, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Ignore it as a FAKE. Declare OBL dead. Move on!
Posted by: Just Joe | September 8, 2007, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Mikey- You are ommitting details within your explanation. Emotion is the enemy of thought.
That 500 Billion is going into hard working americans’ pockets. Military men and women, vehicle assembly, manufacturing on everything from insignia patches and medals to MRE’s to jet engines. Civilian firms are making more money, and providing more jobs while contributing to our military branches in terms of technique, asset management and combat preparedness.
You would trade, by your statement, democracy for a nation, and the liberation of women, and fighting against murderers for MONEY? Not only money, but to HAND it out, instead of paying for the services of our heroes in all walks of life?
Read history: The vietnam war was won. Every commander of importance from the North has stated the fact publicly, many have written books. The TET offensive was a desperation effort meant to trick our liberal population into believing the struggle was impossible. By leaving on liberal terms the left VOIDED the lives of 50,000 american men and women.
You wish to repeat that reprehensible moment of your party’s failure to lead us? You want us to believe now, after you were so easily duped in the past, that THIS noble effort is ‘impossible?’
Odd.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Where is the transcript and the tape? I don’t want some media hack from the alpabet soup crowd to interpret this message.
Posted by: RRS | September 8, 2007, 12:17 am 12:17 am
This OBL….who no one even knows if he still breathes, at least to me looks terrible in whatever that was that we seen today!!!
I think Frank Zappa looked better the day before he passed!!
Posted by: biltno | September 8, 2007, 12:19 am 12:19 am
So the only impetus of economic well being is a Military state? My God Man,what happened to employing people to make toothpaste, toys and catfood?
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:22 am 12:22 am
Note to Mikey: Too bad, your temper is SHOWING!!! Cool down, Dude, and recognize who your true enemy is!! It’s not Bush, Cheney, Republicans, etc. You need to see how OBL is using you LIBs!! Don’t be so blind, man!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:22 am 12:22 am
This not bin laden. His nose does not even match with older picture/video of Bin Laden. I do not think its him.
Posted by: Erik | September 8, 2007, 12:24 am 12:24 am
The way this article summarized the transcripts was very misleading. The author pulled out small phrases and completely misrepresented the meaning behind those words. Readers beware, read the transcript first before reading ABC’s summary.
Posted by: Tess | September 8, 2007, 12:24 am 12:24 am
So the only impetus of economic well being is a Military state? My God Man,what happened to employing people to make toothpaste, toys and catfood?
Hey Mikey…..we do that too !
Posted by: 57 | September 8, 2007, 12:24 am 12:24 am
This not bin laden. His nose does not even match with older picture/video of Bin Laden. I do not think its him.
Posted by: Erik | September 8, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am
The invitation to join Islam is a trap. Once you’re in, you can never get out. To try to is to be an apostate and the Koran inflicts death on those renouncing Islam.
Becoming an Islamist is not an adventure. Once you’re in, you have given up your free will and the cost of changing your mind is your life.
Posted by: Angelina | September 8, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Bin Ladin’s going to have to murder a LOT more people if he really wants to steal Chomsky’s affections away from Pol Pot.
Posted by: DrZin | September 8, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Osama wanted the Dems elected to Congress and the Senate…Osama hates Bush and didn’t want him elected to a second term…Osama wants our troops out of Iraq because we’re killing ‘his people’ (N.B., I thought we weren’t fighting ‘his people’ in Iraq, to hear the libs talk)…Osama hates “neoconservatives like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Richard Perle,” and Osama hates America and our democratic form of government in general. It’s like I’ve said all along everyone…Osama is a liberal Democrat!! Those are all of the liberal talking points!! And what do the libs do on this forum? When in a corner, they deny the reality of the genuineness of the tape! Incredible.
Posted by: neil | September 8, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Obama/Osama ’08 Is the dream ticket for the dems.
Posted by: No Rino's | September 8, 2007, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Bin Laden rules! Bush did 9-11, wake up idiots!!!
Posted by: Jman | September 8, 2007, 12:26 am 12:26 am
This is just GWs childhood budy coming to his rescue again. Anyone that can not see the reverse psychology being used here is stupid enough to vote for George again.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Haven’t heard from the conspiracy theorists in a while. Good to see they’re back in action after running from the black helicopters.
Posted by: Traditional Democrat | September 8, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Bin Laden is about as religious as my big toe….he, Bush, NOR ANY past or present dictator EVER, FOR ONE MINUTE, BELIEVED IN GOD (DESPITE claiming what they do, is in the name of religion)!!! THEY ALL USE RELIGION AND/OR BS FEAR, IN ORDER TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THEM & DO WHAT THEY WANT THEM TO DO (W/bin Laden, they even COMMIT SUICIDE in the name of “Allah”)!!!
Posted by: ohpleeease | September 8, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Noam Chomsky…you gotta be feelin’ good right now. The liberal professors’ ‘golden boy,’ and Osama’s, too!
Posted by: neil | September 8, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am
You conspiracy loons have to give your heads a big shake.
Remember Occam’s razor: All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the right one.
Just think what complexity of involvement a conspiracy by your own government would need to succeed.
Then think how easy it was for the 9/11 terrorists to act.
Which is more plausible?
Posted by: adam | September 8, 2007, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Congratulations, LIBS….your new comrade ‘ol OBL is now your new General in charge!! Wow, would Hillary, Barack or John want to give him a Silver Star for bravery?? For me, I’m locked and loaded and ready to kick it into automatic!! Got my M-16, IEDs and other arsenal ready to take on whatever comes my way. Be afraid…be very afraid…of true patriotic Americans!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:31 am 12:31 am
It is troubling to think that OBL and the Democrats have a common goal of defeating America because they stand against their common enemy in President Bush. Hillary Clinton should consider OBL to be her running mate because they share a common message.
Posted by: Darren | September 8, 2007, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Bush AND bin Laden PLANNED “911″ w/a little help from the BRAINWASHED suicide bombers of bin Laden’s!!! BTW, this video was ALSO set up by BOTH families (THEY’RE BUSINESS PARTNERS/MURDERERS, AS WELL AS GOOD FRIENDS)!!!
Posted by: ohpleeease | September 8, 2007, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Republicans always want to keep it simple because that is all there small minds can handle-we are making enimies faster than we can kill them
Posted by: trh | September 8, 2007, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Hello. Is anybody home?
Posted by: sam | September 8, 2007, 12:34 am 12:34 am
TRH Great point indeed. Well, that pretty much sums it up………..
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:35 am 12:35 am
TRH Great point indeed. Well, that pretty much sums it up………..
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Ooooooooooooooh! I’m so-o-o-o-o-o-o sca-a-a-a-a-red! Give me a break. OBL lives in opulent luxury on his own island in Dubai. Every so often the neocons prop him up in front of a camera with a script to produce a video to scare the American sheeple. Al-CIAda is a farce. 9/11 was an inside job.
Posted by: Duke Hillsborough | September 8, 2007, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Yea Amerika Super Power, Mass influencer, lets make sure we keep it that way, killing to prosper.
Posted by: ?authority | September 8, 2007, 12:37 am 12:37 am
WAKE UP, YOU TUNNEL-VISIONED FOOLS!!! WE’RE BEING PLAYED BY THE BUSH’S AND THE BIN LADEN’S!!!
Posted by: ohpleeease | September 8, 2007, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Authority…. Not WITH MY TAX MONEY YOU DONT!!!!
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am
To TRH and Mikey: Again, you LIBs show your ignorance. Check your spelling and grammar, i.e., “Republicans always want to keep it simple because that is all there small minds can handle-we are making enimies faster than we can kill them”….from TRH’s post…. ;-)!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am
MADNESS?!
THIS.
IS.
SPARTA
Posted by: King Leonidas | September 8, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Sarcasm Mikey, slow down think.
Posted by: ?Authority | September 8, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am
It really doesn’t matter.
OBL again tries to get sympothy from the liberals who are against Bush.
Claiming that Bush is the problem. Corporations are the problem. Global warming is the problem. Mortgage problems are the problem. Taxes are the problem.
Sounds like the DNCs Platform.
The problem with OBL started way before Bush came into office. When the Democrates were in control.
I thought the Dems were free thinkers and looked at facts.
Clinton (the male version) had him served up to him on a platter.
He refused.
I guess OBL was wearing Fur.
Posted by: Marc Roost | September 8, 2007, 12:43 am 12:43 am
Rob…. you have an affection for correcting people. So does Islam. So does The taliban. Would I be correct to assume you have some sort of connection with these organizations? Or just of the same mental capacity?
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Rob…. you have an affection for correcting people. So does Islam. So does The taliban. Would I be correct to assume you have some sort of connection with these organizations? Or just of the same mental capacity?
Posted by: Mikey | September 8, 2007, 12:44 am 12:44 am
?authority ,
Your ignorance is truly frightening.
Posted by: No Rino's | September 8, 2007, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Allah be praised. 300 million more people for you to rule over.
Posted by: al | September 8, 2007, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Well, well, well….seems you LIBs now have a friend in ‘ol OBL himself! Does the pity party start on your end, or will you be inviting OBL to the democratic convention of traitors to America?? What say you, LIBs, do you like your new friend OBL?? What a terrible mess this world is in!! We can only hope that good Americans will not take this BS lightly!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Islam doesn’t need taxes, and Democracy has separation of church and state. IF I found out that my taxes are used for religious reasons, I would really sue…but I already have to say “One state under God” every morning when I say that damned Texas pledge!
Posted by: Yeah | September 8, 2007, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Whoa…everyone stop and take a deep breath.
I just read the transcript. It’s very interesting. OBL is very intelligent. There is something interesting here, though…he attacks the American people but then backs off by blaming everything on US corporations. That allows Americans to give pause and think about what he’s said…and question the value of democracy.
Very fascinating. He wants to rule the world, it appears.
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2007, 12:47 am 12:47 am
They say this OBL tape was produced by a “production company”. If so, why don’t the American authorities go after that “production company”? If they know that it is a “production company” who produced this tape, then they know which “production company” it is. Therefore, I conclude, American officials know exactly where this information is coming from and use it for propaganda to put fear in the American people, while at the same time, protect OBL, personally, who probably lives in the United States.
What a bunch of morons that nobody thinks about this obvious scenario.
Posted by: LRR | September 8, 2007, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Mikey- I never said a military state was acceptable. In fact, I firmly believe that the second amendment is meant to ensure our Government doesn’t go beyond it’s mandate. Myself, and all other conservatives, would be fighting in the streets for the rights we hold dear. That’s the key phrase. For what we hold dear.
The terrorists are in this fight to win it, and the only possible chance is to get enough Americans to bleed from the heart, and wax emotional over a very simple, black and white, issue.
Democrats really need to ask themselves- Are you? Are you committed to ending tyrrany, knowing full well that no two democracies have ever gone to war with one another, and therefore democracy equals peace? Are you willing to lay down your life to protect against aggressors? Are you willing to die for your freedoms?
Ignoring a threat simply won’t make it go away.
A strong and effective military, as I was pointing out, is essential not only as a deterent, but also as a pillar of our economy, two-thirds of which is driven by consumer spending. More americans with money (tax cuts and the members of our large military structure) equal more money for America.
Military state? Sheesh.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 12:50 am 12:50 am
What do these liberal writers like Noam Chomsky think when they hear their names prominently mentioned and their words quoted in a Bin Ladin video? Are they proud of the fact they’ve made themselves into Osama’s personal little propaganda b*tches? And for those of you who think that Bush or the U.S. govt is making these videos: please try to add some space aliens or Bigfoot to your lame conspiracy theories. Throw in a crop circle or two. Try to at least make them comical for the rest of us.
Posted by: Strafer | September 8, 2007, 12:51 am 12:51 am
No Rino’s, Ignorance is not recognizing sarcasm when it is hidden in plain view.
Posted by: ?Authority | September 8, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
The Republicans had a strategy in the 70s, Nixon determined that if you could make the Democrats the party of the Black people they would never carry the south again. This is the same thing. To rally Republican neo-con support. This is reverse psychology on the American people
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
Some of you idiots are too dumb to realize that you’re playing right into OBL’s hands by getting your conservative panties into a bunch…essentially over one guy in a cave.
Let’s see, he spends $300 on a camcorder, mentions Noam Chomsky, and leaks a tape…and you’re off to the races to spend another $300 billion in Iraq.
Sounds like his wish to destroy America’s wealth is succeeding pretty well without another terrorist attack…
Posted by: Jeema | September 8, 2007, 12:53 am 12:53 am
“While reading your comments i got the impression that finally americans seem to grow up and cease to believe in fairy-tales of national pride, exept of some unbelievable-stupid adolescent-forever boys, who refuse to look at reality.”
National pride is what is going to keep America intact, and the lack of it is going to destroy the European nations.
Long live America.
Posted by: IJ | September 8, 2007, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Note to Mikey: Please check your brain at the door when you leave. I think you may be missing some gray matter?
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:55 am 12:55 am
Sounds like he was giving us some good advice. I think Bin Laden is starting to feel sorry for us having such a disastrous president. Don’t underestimate the damage one horrible “leader” can do to a country. All we can do is wait for the madness to end.
Posted by: doug l | September 8, 2007, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Randy, OBL has a orange jump suit for you.
Posted by: Tommy Tough Guy | September 8, 2007, 12:58 am 12:58 am
If you voted for the idiot you should go to Iraq-stop watching fox news and do some real research
Posted by: randy | September 8, 2007, 12:59 am 12:59 am
State of the Union address by the Democratic Party’s leader.
Posted by: Pelosi Bologni | September 8, 2007, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Agood plan,violently executed no,is better than a perfect plan next week.
….Patton..
hmmm…give up democracy to embrace Islam?
Sometimes, in daft moments, I can envision some areas of this globe becoming a giant inter-stellar Walmart.
Posted by: Thompaine | September 8, 2007, 1:00 am 1:00 am
On September 11, 2001, pilotless airplanes were guided into the World Trade Center by homing beacons. It wasn’t a plane that hit the Pentagon, but a missile. U.S. Air Force planes weren’t scrambled to intercept the hijacked planes that morning because the White House was behind the events of that tragic day.
Posted by: Iknow | September 8, 2007, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Yes, Randy you’ve cornered the market on research, PLEASE. You’re drooling on yourself.
Posted by: Tommy Tough Guy | September 8, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am
The Written Word says “He” will come as an Angel of light. As a “false prophet”. As a sheep in “wolves clothing”. The “blind will lead the blind”. Good would become evil and evil will become good. Recognize any of this yet? hint…….OBL and his little Demonic leftist liberals! “followers”
Posted by: G I Joe | September 8, 2007, 1:03 am 1:03 am
This reads like an adult comic book. Anyways, if you have a weighted dice and can beat your opponent on every roll.. don’t you think it might get a little obvious? Every once in a while you have to throw a normal dice otherwise opponent will pick up on it. The media machine is just fabricating some good points against their view to make it seem like things are real. Nothing in the media is real, it’s all just grinding 2 points of view together until everyone is too tired to think anymore.
Posted by: nigel | September 8, 2007, 1:03 am 1:03 am
OBL is alive…we had him at Tora Bora but Bush and company figured he’d be more useful as the continual scapegoat. I hope they both burn in hell.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 3:16 am 3:16 am
Anyone else notice how this video has him saying things that Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, or even Al Gore could have made? Not a very good omen for the Dems. Personally, I think he’s just auditioning to be Al Franken’s speech writer.
BTW, to those who think we should have taken him out at Tora-Bora, how long did it take for us to find dozens of people wanted for murder in this country when we knew what state they were in? AND, we carpet bombed Tora-Bora, but those mountains have hidden and protected fighters for centuries. Personally, I don’t think he’s in Pakistan. I think he may be in Iran and been given sanctuary and medical care.
Posted by: boBNunny | September 8, 2007, 3:21 am 3:21 am
For those of you who believe it was an inside job, or that OBL and Bush have ties and conspired together to cause 9/11, you need to take off your tin foil hats and stop drinking that kool-aid. Evil exists in this world and it’s form is radical Islam…
Posted by: boBNunny | September 8, 2007, 3:24 am 3:24 am
The guy duped the USA into a trillion dollar war while we have the Fed destroying our currency and our debt is now held by China, the USA is now going to be a slave to authoritarian China and totalitarian Islam if the USA cant pull out of the tailspin right now.
Posted by: Mick Russom | September 8, 2007, 3:28 am 3:28 am
I would like to thank ABC for providing this transcript. The core of Democracy is information, and trust in the People to sus out which is fact and which is propaganda with both in full view. By giving us that opportunity, you are doing a great service.
Posted by: dusty_brains | September 8, 2007, 3:34 am 3:34 am
Laughable. Even more laughable that we responded. A classic false argument: Point out things that are true (1) taxes are too high (2) the economy is bad (3) Bush is a moron… and then assert that because those things are true, the rest of your argument is. And also your conclusions are. Your taxes are too high… so become a Muslim. You are guilty of war, so support the civilian attack of 9/11. The democrats haven’t done anything… so support Islamic Fundamentalist ideology, etc. This is just ridiculous. It’s not as bad as Sean Hannity’s constant straw dogs, but it’s close.
Posted by: Eric | September 8, 2007, 3:36 am 3:36 am
I see a lot of “useful idiots” on here. Same bunch who say never landed on the moon, JFK was killed by the CIA, and there are no terrorists. It’s these kinds of nut jobs that will get us all killed. Go back to your UFO sites and let the rest of us protect your sorry butt.
Posted by: john | September 8, 2007, 3:39 am 3:39 am
Why is everyone joking about this guy? GET HIM and hang him high
smoke ‘em out
Posted by: fedup | September 8, 2007, 3:49 am 3:49 am
That tape is SUCH A FAKE. Does Chertoff even understand that many of us have read Orwell? The neocons are trying to do it again by spreading Fear.
Posted by: David | September 8, 2007, 3:55 am 3:55 am
Why is it everytime this man dressed up as a taxi driver says something… we all hush up and listen as if the man’s opinion matters in the least. Please…..the dems are trying to find a new way to vomit their rhetoric, so they find a OBL wannabe, put him in a white sheet, and prop him up so he can mumble their crap and everyone listens, calling him wise. What happened to my country???? Maybe we should ask the wise man in white…. TAXI !!!!!
Posted by: Maggie | September 8, 2007, 4:27 am 4:27 am
thanx to american media for making the document illegible to all of us, praise be to your all mighty Bush, you push-overs! and we thought you were all for freedom of speech, at least let us see what it really says, instead of what the propagandists state it says! in this day and age the document should be able to be read.
Posted by: leila | September 8, 2007, 4:44 am 4:44 am
I think he makes some very valid points,
however he should stop with the pushing
religion. Religion (ALL RELIGION) yes
osama Islam too was put in place to control people. To be truly free to believe that there is a God/Allah Then
you need to get away from Religion altogether. Only then can you experience truly spiritual understanding. These are the laws of the Universe and not those made by man.
God/Allah created it all and set up his own laws those are the only laws we should follow and I don’t think God’s/Allah’s laws state to kill each other or to annihilate any of God/Allah’s creations. The Earth included. I believe that to honor God/Allah is to honor God’s/Allah’s creations. Any time anyone raises a weapon and takes a life they are insulting God/Allah and they will never really know God/Allah’s Grace.
Posted by: Annabella | September 8, 2007, 4:58 am 4:58 am
Your all missing the picture:
1) It is not Bin Laden. Bin Laden has been dead for years. The only reason his body hasn’t been carted out yet, like a trophy animal, is that then we would all realize that al-qaeda is just a couple of 1000 nut jobs, most of whom are poorly trained, poorly organized and thus, no real bogey man.
Posted by: mm | September 8, 2007, 5:10 am 5:10 am
there’s a bigger god then God/Allah, he is called oil
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 5:10 am 5:10 am
To all you brainwashed Americans who believe that our government could never do something as evil as being behind the 9/11 tragedy – you probably don’t know that GW Bush’s grandaddy was once a CEO for a bank in New York which after WWI was implicated and forced to close it’s door’s by the US government after it was revealed to the public that the bank was used by many of the Nazi top brass to launder money for their own personal gains. Did you know that decades after the Vietnam conflict officers that were present during the supposed sinking of two of our vessels by the n Koreans came foward to set the record straight? It seems that the incident never occured.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 5:16 am 5:16 am
God/Allah are the same. Most Monotheisitc religions are believe in the same primary god.
Their variations lie only within their prophets & messiahs.
Posted by: mm | September 8, 2007, 5:16 am 5:16 am
This is such rubbish! AQ can’t afford a digital camcorder to make a clear, easy to see and hear video? It’s like an 8th graders attempt at a hoax! It’s so obviously a faked video. The government–in all it’s CYA glory–is going to say it’s real. Sure it is!
Posted by: Brian | September 8, 2007, 5:17 am 5:17 am
You liberals have all not done any single thing this whole time to help–you liberals have been a hinderance at every step of the way. So don’t point your fingers at anyone other than yourselves for failures at ending this war in a timely fasion.
Posted by: Brian | September 8, 2007, 5:27 am 5:27 am
MM, I agree it has been so for thousands of years. The similarities in the prophets and messiahs including those of christianity are astounding and can be traced back to ancient Mayans and the ancient Egyptians.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 5:29 am 5:29 am
I am pleased to see so many “free thinkers” in here. You demonstrate your ability to think rationally unlike those who ape the thoughts and ideas of our politicians who have brought this world into the a state of self destruction that it is in.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 5:35 am 5:35 am
No taxes. What an inovating idea. Wait a minute, that was the primary reason of Americans declaring their independence from Britain.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 5:44 am 5:44 am
What did he say that was not true? This is a war for money. The corporations lose money if this war ends. Aside from that, if Osama is alive he is an avowed enemy of our culture and should be killed. He sounds like a democrat, only he shits in a cave and not on his constituency.
Posted by: Don Lawson | September 8, 2007, 6:04 am 6:04 am
I bet Joshua the crying soldier is really proud of himself. Not ever soldier gets to be OBL’s poster baby for withdrawing the troops. Maybe Jane Fonda, Cindy Sheehan, and Joshua Lake can start a tour. A tour for losers.
Posted by: Mikerkba | September 8, 2007, 6:05 am 6:05 am
He might stand a chance casue he would be the only one running on a lower taxes platform.
Other than that – his platform is pretty much the same as the other guys and gal
Posted by: Brad | September 8, 2007, 6:12 am 6:12 am
I presume Mikerkb that when you wrote that you hd just been on patrol for eight hours under the ever present threat of roadside bombs, being sniped in 40 degree heat? Drinking water from bottles hot enough to mke Coffee?
Until you have had that honor do not diss troops in the field who sound off, in this case in front of a camera on ABC news.
Joshua has more guts and bravery in his little finger than you will ever have.
Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2007, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Isn’t Ossama like some 6’4″ Arab? I just saw him, Michael Moore and Nancy Pelosi sitting down at McDonalds. I am sure of it.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 6:22 am 6:22 am
I am amazed at all of the experts posting on this site. We have so many forensic specialists who have inside knowledge of the secret counsels of the political parties! They know OBL is dead, that his image is used to boslter the Republican Party…or the Democratic Party. They know exactly when OBL was killed. They know the tape is faked. I’m certain they can prove it too. Just amazing.
Richard, I am not military, but I’ve known several men and women who serve and have served. You mention they’re special rights and all their benefits. Most of them live on poverty level. Their benefits are terribly overrated. They are paid to have their limbs blown off, to be insulted by their fellow citizens if the war is unpopular, to be separated from their families for months on end. How do you compensate for that? Richard you are upset because you think they don’t have a right to be heard BECAUSE they are veterans? I suggest you don’t have much of a right to be heard because you are ignorant.
Posted by: dbw | September 8, 2007, 6:39 am 6:39 am
If not fake…then Osama is dividing us further by taking sides in American politics.
Posted by: Craig | September 8, 2007, 6:39 am 6:39 am
If not fake…then Osama is dividing us further by taking sides in American politics.
Posted by: Craig | September 8, 2007, 6:39 am 6:39 am
This is why I despise both political extremes in this country…all you fools can think about is bashing each other, driving me to the conclusion that liberals and conservatives are equally hardheaded, unknowledgeable, foolish, and flat-out wrong. All of you need to start listening to the voices of moderation in this country, few though there are. Seriously, when we have people on one side comparing liberal politicians to a insane murderer; while the people on the other side claim to agree with that same murderer or would support him over Bush…you’re all equally worthless.
Posted by: Tom | September 8, 2007, 6:44 am 6:44 am
Osama 2.0
Sporting his new Just For Men Haircolor look, Osama bin Laden is back in blackand now rhetorically indistinguishable from your average DailyKos post. Not only has Osama added global warming to his seemingly endless checklist of complaints again…
Posted by: postpolitical | September 8, 2007, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Where does UBL come off thinking he’s the self proclaimed savior of the world? Who voted for him? This coward doesn’t come out of his hole for anything. Killing innocent people and torturing Iraqi’s is his way of promoting Islam and doing away with democracy? What an idiot. Has anyone considered he might be just another psycho serial killer?
Posted by: Ken | September 8, 2007, 6:47 am 6:47 am
This “video” is obviously fake. Republican talking points are embedded.
Posted by: Paul | September 8, 2007, 6:53 am 6:53 am
@Tom: Dont forget he’s made the scapegoat for the blood on the hands of Bush and his NWO friends
OBL never ever claimed 9/11, not even now, surprising huh? 9/11 is an inside job, and prolly soon we’ll see another one wich legitimates us to go to iran
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 6:54 am 6:54 am
Poor Osama doesn’t realize that most Americans just don’t care about what he has to say. While he has lived a pretty pathetic existence since 2000. Most of us have lived a decent life by comparison. He seems baffled by our behavior. It’s because he really doesn’t understand us. Al Qaeda could murder another 3,000 people in a US attack in the next couple of years. Within a year we won’t care. We’ll be up against radical Islam for the remainder of our lifetimes. We can witdraw from Iraq, we can stay. It won’t change anything. And I really think our complacency as a nation will continue to frustrate the hell out those that mean us harm. It’s actually kind of humorous. Enjoy your stay in that crappy cave on the Afghan-Pakistani border Osama, I got football to watch.
Posted by: Gregg | September 8, 2007, 6:55 am 6:55 am
Lol Gregg…I don’t really think complacency is the best action, but it’s better than all the ultra liberal/conservative crap.
To Knut: the day you can prove one word of that, I’ll listen to your arguments.
Peace out folks.
Posted by: Tom | September 8, 2007, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Gregg, to tell you the truth, I don’t understand us. We’ve lost focus on the true meaning of life trading it for an SUV, a big screen TV, an IPOD and more. We are one with the organism we call earth and an organism at war with itself is doomed.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 7:00 am 7:00 am
Hey, Jim Jones, why don’t you take another swig of that Kool-Aid.
Treason starts at the top
Posted by: Brent Mack | September 8, 2007, 7:05 am 7:05 am
Hillary…forget Obama as your VP, choose Osama (OBL) instead…he has the same talking points as the Democratic Party!
Posted by: Osama is a Democrat | September 8, 2007, 7:05 am 7:05 am
are you know about what israel doing with palestienian peoples and you know what americans soldiers doing with iraqies people and you untill now ask why bin ladin doing that ?this is what you are doing in your hands؟
Posted by: haiel.shaaban | September 8, 2007, 7:07 am 7:07 am
“This is such rubbish! AQ can’t afford a digital camcorder to make a clear, easy to see and hear video? It’s like an 8th graders attempt at a hoax! It’s so obviously a faked video.”
“Can’t afford”. “So obviously”?
This is a man who ABHORS Western technology. You expect him to utilize said technology simply because it’s available?
Since he didn’t go to the nearest Afghan Circuit City and buy the latest equipment this is somehow a fraud? How about we let the people who have even MORE advanced equipment make that determination?
Ignorance is bliss. Spoiled American kids prove this over and over.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Seems to me if Osama has the same talking points as the democrats it’s to get what he wants in life – which the republicans will admit is to recruit and continue to come at us. So – this tells me the opposite of what the far right is fussing about on here. It’s his intention to keep you guys in office. I’m sure he adores Bush. Keeps fools lining up to kill themselves. The more controversy, the better the numbers.
Posted by: Sandra | September 8, 2007, 7:23 am 7:23 am
“And I forgot to mention the buildings fell at free fall speed…”
Hmmmm. “Free fall” speed? For starters this is nonsense and if you look at the videos you’ll see debris fall faster than the buildings themselves. Secondly, “free fall speed” is a made up catch phrase that you obviously have bought into. Lemming.
That aside, I have two questions that NO conspiracy theorist has been able to answer yet:
1) Since when is the demolition point in the MIDDLE of a building? There is NO QUESTION that the point of destruction of BOTH towers was at point of impact.
2) Show me the controlled demolition that resulted in debris MILES away from the demo site.
EVERY demo expert in the entire WORLD has said there is NO WAY that was a controlled demolition.
You and your friends who “think” they saw something on an internet video are fools.
Where, exactly, did you EXPECT the buildings to fall if not down? They did NOT fall STRAIGHT down as would be expected in a controlled demo, mind you. Not even close.
But they did, in fact, fall DOWN. So you fools, instead of considering the law of gravity, use this as “proof” of a controlled demo. Any first year structural engineer student knows that theory is hilarious.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Bin Ladin is right about one thing…America for some unknown reason elected Bush to a second term. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism and the “sheeple” of the U.S. are too stupid to see it. What the hell!
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2007, 7:26 am 7:26 am
are you know that bin laden story is created by your goverment to stell your money
Posted by: haiel.shaaban | September 8, 2007, 7:28 am 7:28 am
Haahahahah!
I can’t believe this phony piece is taken seriously. Are people really that stupid? This must be proof that Bin Laden is really dead and that some spook had to come up with this impersonator. I’ve seen a Japanese Elvis impersonator that was more impressive. Unfortunately, most Americans won’t even examine the video or question why “Bin Laden” is making videos whenever a bogeyman is needed.
Posted by: An American | September 8, 2007, 7:37 am 7:37 am
There has been quite a few times that we had Osama in the sights of a rifle and higher ups in our government would not allow the hit. It just seems a little odd that everytime Bush is slammed in the world news, all of a sudden there is a new threat from Al Qaeda to obviously divert attention away from this jackleg president we have. Impeach and put this traitor/war criminal on trial.
Posted by: Equalizer | September 8, 2007, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Michael said: “I have two questions that NO conspiracy theorist has been able to answer yet:
1) Since when is the demolition point in the MIDDLE of a building? There is NO QUESTION that the point of destruction of BOTH towers was at point of impact.
there were heavy explosions at the BASE of the tower, and series of blasts in belts around the buiding. Im no demolition expert, i dont want to argue about the exact whereabouts of the demolition point, all I know the building came down in an incredible speed after reports of bombs going off in the buildings. Also where were the steel cores at ground zero? And the evidence of use of thermate?
2) Show me the controlled demolition that resulted in debris MILES away from the demo site.
Does it really matter in this case how far the debris sailed? i dont see much relevance in that
EVERY demo expert in the entire WORLD has said there is NO WAY that was a controlled demolition.
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 7:48 am 7:48 am
Hey, Noam Chomsky, Osama bin Laden thinks you’re “among one of the most capable of those from [our] side.”
Congratulations, Noam, to be singled out for bin Laden’s public approbation distinguishes you as the genuine Anti-American weasel you truly are.
Your kind of academic intellectual rot is the dung in which the bin Laden’s of the world flourish.
Posted by: Michael Grable | September 8, 2007, 7:50 am 7:50 am
I can’t believe the stupidity and anti-American attitude of most of the posters here. Idiots who believe they can solve the problems of the world from their arm chairs and whose ideas are blatant socialism. Bin Laden dead or alive doesn’t matter, he’s been ineffective for years. The true enemy is within, too bad the US communists have not allowed the re-viewing of “The Path to 9/11″. Therein lies the real enemy of this country.
Posted by: Harry | September 8, 2007, 7:57 am 7:57 am
I have to wonder why it is he feels the need to tell us to convert to islam(submission) which is by far the most hated religion on the planet?
I can remember oslimy bin loser telling us all we would see mopre spectacualr attacks here in the united States.
Does anyone remember one?
I think the guy posing as bin laden is a phony and that the real bin laden has been dead for some time.
I just have to wonder if he died from being poisoned by his followers like mohammed did?
Posted by: J Cash | September 8, 2007, 7:58 am 7:58 am
It’s comments like knut’s that make this world seem scarier by the day. You must be an absolute sheep to believe such a story of the towers being a “vast neocon conspiracy.” Hell, the current administration is apparently not even capable of “outing” a not-so-covert CIA “agent” without the brilliantly deductive democrat party figuring it out and whipping the media into a frenzy over a non-story.
First Bush is so dumb that he can’t speak or is so incompetent that he will bring this country into economic ruin with his tax policies, then he’s the most sinister genius the world has ever known, making Stalin look like a clown with his evil plots.
Which is it, lefties? Your critical thinking is truly dizzying!
Posted by: Jack | September 8, 2007, 8:04 am 8:04 am
It is scary, i fully admid that…
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 8:12 am 8:12 am
It seems Bin Laden’s comments are aimed at people who are completely unaware of what’s going on in the World. And—not surprisingly?—some others will take him at his word and dump the Republicans. That’s exactly what he wants. The Democrats are his dream. They will negotiate, capitulate, and arrogate what we have or will have. Democrats will be wearing burqas at their convention.
Posted by: T N McCoy | September 8, 2007, 8:14 am 8:14 am
“* No steel frame building has ever collapsed due to fire in more then hundred years”
Nor did the Twin Towers collapse solely due to fire.
“* Longer and hotter fires have burned one of the towers without a hint of collapse”
Did it first have a freakin airplane fly into it?
“* There is scientific evidence the twintowers cores were cut with thermate”
WRONG. THERE NO EVIDENCE “Scientific” or otherwise. NONE. ZERO. ZIP. ZILCH. that thermite was involved. PLEASE PROVE me wrong. You can’t because it isn’t true. You ONLY know what you read on some idiotic web site. PROVE ME WRONG!
“* There are many witnessess that have seen/heared secondairy explosions”
Duh. So what? They were 110 story buildings. Do you think MAYBE they had gas lines, transformers, etc. in them? Do you think MAYBE those things EXPLODE in a fire?
“* There are videocaptures of steel turning to dust without any hot fire beeing visible around it”
Really? Got a link for that? Didn’t think so.
“* The solomon brothers building (WTC 7) went trough a demolition experts textbook decent without it even has been hit by any plain nor was it seriously burning.”
Half the freakin building was destroyed by a tower FALLING on it. and it was the LOWER half.
“* BBC and CNN report the WTC 7 collapse prior to it actually happening”
Lots of things were reported incorrectly on that day. Confusion and chaos will do that. Does CNN or BBC stand by that early report today? Um, no. Why?
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Its refreshing to find that there are as many idiotic conspiracy nuts on the left as there are on the right. Go Art Bell!!
Posted by: neocon | September 8, 2007, 8:19 am 8:19 am
How and where did they got the idee WTC 7 was going to collapse as no steel frame building ever before crashed due to fire and no plain had hit it?
I dont believe it sustained that much damage from the collapse of the twin towers, show me material to prove me wrong
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 8:21 am 8:21 am
“Unfortunately, most Americans won’t even examine the video or question why “Bin Laden” is making videos whenever a bogeyman is needed.”
Actually “most” Americans are far brighter, if somewhat less cynical, than you are.
YOU think you can “tell” by looking at the little footage you have whether or not it’s Bin Laden. That’s FUNNY. You think the people who are TRAINED to figure it out are “sheep”. That’s even funnier.
You are CLUELESS. My daughter is in intelligence in the Air Force. You have no freakin CLUE the technology we have to determine the authenticity of this tape or anything else. YOU have determined YOU know based on your own visual interpretation. How ignorant can you be?
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Hell, this sounds exactly like the Clintons, Edwards, or Obama. Nothing new here.
Posted by: GM | September 8, 2007, 8:29 am 8:29 am
i suspect that anyone who disrepects president bush and our military is doing so for political reasons only…and they probably have a misguided hatred to anyone of strength and dignity due to their own weaknesses
i’d love to split our country in 2…one half the libs and democrats…the other half the respectful religious of all faiths and the republicans…wonder which country would thrive?
Posted by: Hammer | September 8, 2007, 8:37 am 8:37 am
I’m already to walk everywhere, wear smelly old robes, face mandatory prayer 5 times a day,and turn our women into ghosts and stop educating our female children, behead our neighbors, stone dead bodies all in the name of OBL! Yeah George Bush is the enemy to our way of life!(sarcasm)
Time to fire up the pipe so I can keep on believing that.
Posted by: KT | September 8, 2007, 8:38 am 8:38 am
What’s the big deal? He sounds like he’s running for president as a democrat.
Posted by: Todd | September 8, 2007, 8:42 am 8:42 am
“check the section “Thermate evidence part 1 to 8″, it may take you a while but that is hard scientific evidence as far as I am concerned”
LMAO.
You know zero about science, then. “Hard Scientific evidence” would be a scientific study that has been peer reviewed. NOT some nonsense claim by someone who claims to know something about science.
BTW. By the definition of the word “Scientist” I am one.
And I KNOW that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to have evidence of THERMATE after an explosion the force of the towers had. There could, theoretically, be evidence of THERMITE, but not THERMATE.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Only liberals would actually believe that the US government is faking these Osama tapes. It’s even more digusting that these liberals think exactly like OBL. Liberals hate the country and the US military even more. Do liberals think that electing Hillary will make any difference? What a joke! Liberals do not want us to win any war because that would give credibility to Bush. I am sure if Clinton did the same thing that Bush did, they would be OK with it. It’s all about Bush to them, nothing else. The democratic debates have even shown that. Ask a democrat any question and it will come back to Bush, even if the question is totally unrelated. Wake up and smell the coffee. Stop hating America and investing in defeat. Get some balls!
Posted by: eb | September 8, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Sounds like a plea for all American voters to vote for the Liberals! Capitalism doesn’t work? Gimme a break.
Posted by: Ryan | September 8, 2007, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Hey Jim Jones, get off your lazy butt and go fight in Iraq like I am now! Bush is in bed with the Osama, Bush needs him as much as he needs Bush! They are both sick and twisted idiots who enjoy seeing others killed and tortued while there hands are clean!Another Republican Chicken Hawk, His Guts, My Blood!
US Marine!
Posted by: US Marine in Iraq! | September 8, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Hey Jim Jones, get off your lazy butt and go fight in Iraq like I am now! Bush is in bed with the Osama, Bush needs him as much as he needs Bush! They are both sick and twisted idiots who enjoy seeing others killed and tortued while there hands are clean!Another Republican Chicken Hawk, His Guts, My Blood!
US Marine!
Posted by: US Marine in Iraq! | September 8, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Michael, im not gonna waist time in an is/isnot conversation with you, I encourage everybody to carefully examine the available materials and make a judgment for themselves
Concider carfully who you think the ones are that should be brought to justice!
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Men will rule the country again, polygmay is encouraged, and instead of a bunch of confusing laws, an interpretation of the Quran is all you need. Islam now rules most of Asia, Africa, and Europe. Since they’re already winning through our weak and politically correct society, why don’t we just jump on this guy’s bandwagon?
Posted by: lonestaar | September 8, 2007, 8:55 am 8:55 am
“Michael, im not gonna waist time in an is/isnot conversation with you”
I’m sure you won’t. You are obviously out gunned in such a conversation, despite the size of your “waist”.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 8:56 am 8:56 am
By giving the United States of America the oppertunity to convert to Islam, OBL has done what is required in the guidlines of the Fatwah, he now may attack, the Fatwah that was issued allows for 1.5 million deaths, that means the next attack may very well come in the form of mushroom clouds, especially since he also mentioned the anniversary of the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan, heads up people, we may experience something like the scenarios portrayed in the popular TV shows “Jericho” and “24″ so all you libral anti war crowd need to wake up and smell the coffee, OBL stated the only way this war is over is by everyone of us dying or America converts to Islam and incorperates Sharia Law……Peace is for the dead!
Posted by: Joe G. | September 8, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am
“Islam now rules most of Asia, Africa, and Europe.”
This is not even close to being true.
Islam “rules” only a handful of countries and none of them would be considered a “good” place to live.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am
The media here provides him with millions of dollars of free worldwide publicity so it is in his interest to keep the video tapes and audio tapes flowing regularly. Hasn’t anyone here the brains to figure this out and deny him this power over us ? We are being played like puppets on a string and he jerks the strings.
Posted by: George D Ballentine | September 8, 2007, 8:58 am 8:58 am
I’m half-tempted to think this thing in itself is phony.
When all you will show is a transcript, there’s no proof that you didn’t make up the entire story.
Trying to make liberals seem un-American and pro-terrorist using a fake transcript? Mocking their arguments and making it seem like Osama agrees with them? I expected that from FOX, but not you, ABC.
Don’t let me down.
Posted by: Sesslerite | September 8, 2007, 8:59 am 8:59 am
“Only liberals would actually believe that the US government is faking these Osama tapes.”
Funny thing is, not even the MOST liberal of politician even hints at this. Don’t you think Ted Kennedy would be shouting it at the top of his lungs if these tapes were fake? Nancy Pelosi? John Kerry? There is NOTHING that would help their cause more than to do so.
“It’s even more digusting that these liberals think exactly like OBL”
That is disturbing. Take out the “convert to Islam” parts and Usama seems to have the same speech writer as Nancy Pelosi…
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:03 am 9:03 am
EVERYONE.
Think about this for a second….
The timing of these tapes is laughable. Bin Laden is probably dead. How do we get these tapes, and why the delay??? Because it’s propaganda.
Just like in WWII… I’m disgusted.
Bring the Troops Home. There is no Bin Laden, it’s simple scare so our neocons can get their oil security and a New World Order.
I’ll fight for the constitution! But this distorted crap is rediculous.
Posted by: anonymous | September 8, 2007, 9:04 am 9:04 am
I am a registered independent voter. We are now more polarized against each other than ever before – by design. We need to start being good Americans.
Posted by: Zeitguy | September 8, 2007, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Michael said: “I’m sure you won’t. You are obviously out gunned in such a conversation, despite the size of your “waist”.”
Outgunned my ass, i have seen enough evidence to convince me, and forgive me my misspelling, american is not my native language
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 9:06 am 9:06 am
“The media here provides him with millions of dollars of free worldwide publicity so it is in his interest to keep the video tapes and audio tapes flowing regularly.”
“millions of dollars of free worldwide publicity”
Huh?
“Hasn’t anyone here the brains to figure this out and deny him this power over us ?”
Are you serious? This has to be the MOST ignorant thing I’ve seen yet.
You are effectively saying “Don’t tell the American public what he’s saying because thats what he wants”
“We are being played like puppets on a string and he jerks the strings.”
You watch too many horror movies.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:11 am 9:11 am
Osama bin Clinton? They sound the same.
Posted by: roger ramjet | September 8, 2007, 9:12 am 9:12 am
You are getting very sleepy…….Look into my eyes…..
Posted by: The great stupido | September 8, 2007, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Hey Knut, that’d be pretty sweet — Too bad OBL’s believed to be in the Tora Bora region of PAKISTAN.
Posted by: G | September 8, 2007, 9:17 am 9:17 am
OBL references Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent which skewers the US commercial media. To the people on this board who criticize Chomsky AND have read this book, please raise your hand…crickets…crickets…
Posted by: jcanavan | September 8, 2007, 9:18 am 9:18 am
osama, news for you champ; we don’t care what you say, if we see you, you’re dead big boy.
Posted by: mikey b | September 8, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
huh?
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
For those who read these entries for both analytical context and emotional content, I offer the following:
UBL’s screed may not necessarily be a ramble and signal of his marginalized star power but rather an appeal to non-democratic and anti-globalist movements that have, for their own reasons, demonstrated aggression against the US and her institutions. Hence he attempts to provide a rationale and platform by which the umma (Muslim faithful) will grow by those looking for a value system that appeals to the issues he inventories. It also further lays the ground for commoncause aggression against the West and its systems. By staying out of the ‘light’ as long as he has, anticipation and expectation [and trepidaton?] has ensured his message, however reported, will reach far and wide.
It is a backdoor approach that will fall on itchy ears.
Posted by: bb | September 8, 2007, 9:22 am 9:22 am
“Outgunned my ass”
Face it. You don’t know NEAR as much about the subject as I do. You know what you read on some web site and you BELIEVE it.
“i have seen enough evidence to convince me”
I rest my case. YOU don’t know that THERMATE can’t POSSIBLY be found on the site of the world trade centers. It’s not POSSIBLE. The elements that make up thermate would BURN OFF almost immediately in such a scenerio.
Now, therMITE could possibly be evident, except it wasn’t.
Convincing YOU was EASY. You WANTED to believe it. Actual FACTS, however, proved that theory wrong long ago.
“and forgive me my misspelling, american is not my native language”
Wow. It’s not mine, either. In fact, I’m pretty sure “American” isn’t a language at all.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Key to this is the invitation to Americans to convert. OBL was chastised by his religious “superiors” for attacking the US on 9/11 without first giving Americans the opportunity to convert. Here he (or his “understudy” – it does not really matter because it’s the message itself that counts) extends that invitation,thereby “playing by the rules” and, as I see it, setting the stage for another attack.
Posted by: rm ny | September 8, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am
ok michael, then you tell me how 2 planes could have brought down 2 massive steel towers and why WTC7 was brought down by demolition experts
and stop trowing mud at me about misspellings and weather american is a language or not
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 9:29 am 9:29 am
The only difference between the Democrats and Osama Bin Laden is the Democrats only want to eliminate the Republicans (mostly Bush) and OBL wants to eliminate both Republicans (mostly Bush) and the Democrats.
Posted by: Tiger | September 8, 2007, 9:30 am 9:30 am
There’s no surprise that OBL uses an ABC News report about disenchanted troops to backup his propaganda points. Although it is troubling that ABC seems fine with it.
Have we EVER had a war that didn’t have unhappy troops?
Posted by: Larry | September 8, 2007, 9:30 am 9:30 am
“UBL’s screed may not necessarily be a ramble and signal of his marginalized star power but rather an appeal to non-democratic and anti-globalist movements that have,”
LOL. Do ya think?
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t believe that anything HE has to say is going to turn the USA into a Muslim country.
OBVIOUSLY this was an appeal to others to oppose America.
Oh, and I learned a long time ago that trying to sound smart only minimizes your message.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Usama Bin Laden is the new PR spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. He is also the guest speaker at their next convention. He will speak by satellite phone from Pakistan. The Democrats have offered 50 million dollars to Bin Laden if he will stay hidden.
Posted by: NAVY CHIEF | September 8, 2007, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Usama Bin Laden is the new PR spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. He is also the guest speaker at their next convention. He will speak by satellite phone from Pakistan. The Democrats have offered 50 million dollars to Bin Laden if he will stay hidden.
Posted by: NAVY CHIEF | September 8, 2007, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Clearly, all the references to high taxes and concern about mortgage rates puts Osama in the supply-sider/Reaganomics wing of the Republican Party. I always knew OBL was a Republican. They love to kill people while claiming to be people of god.
Posted by: Brod | September 8, 2007, 9:39 am 9:39 am
“Have we EVER had a war that didn’t have unhappy troops?”
LOL. We’ve never has PEACE TIME without unhappy troops.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:42 am 9:42 am
I read Bin Laden’s rambling transcript to the world.
He dislikes capitalism, (he’s a Democrat) He is upset we are kicking butt in Iraq and Afghanistan and wants us to withdraw (He’s a Democrat) He wants us all to convert to Islam and hates Jews (He’s a Democrat) He is upset at global warming (He’s a Democrat) Say no more. Want’s in your pocket ?
Posted by: NAVY CHIEF | September 8, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am
You can debate on whether the two buildings collapsed by demolition or by impact of planes all day long. What about all the events that transpired leading up to 9/11 that raise eyebrows as to whether it was an inside job? Those of you that reject the notion that a government is incapable of pulling off such a thing, do your research and remember the Nazis, through propaganda, had nearly all of it’s citizens believing that what they were doing was right and just.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am
I have known for some time that the populace as a whole has really been dumbed down, but I really didn’t know how much until Bill Clinton was elected – twice! No knowledgeable person with character could possibly vote for him. But we have so far survived the tragedy. However, we are on a slippery slope if those of you on this site who are dripping hatred for President Bush and denigrating Republicans in a vile fashion ever become a majority. It is as though you are unable to comprehend honor, honesty, logic, common sense. I believe OBL is dead, but I don’t for one second believe anyone in the Republican Party is responsible for ths farce. I don’t know who is, or why, but I am not vitriolic and blaming the Democrats. I am a sane Republican. Republicans do not act on news with emotion first – we first react with facts, and until we know the facts, we keep our suspicions under control. Do all Democrats have no sense of decency? Or are the posters here not representative of the Democrat Party, but instead representative of the slightly silly and crazy crowd? Just asking.
Posted by: Kathy Washburn | September 8, 2007, 9:44 am 9:44 am
“ok michael, then you tell me how 2 planes could have brought down 2 massive steel towers”
For starters, they were NOT “massive steel towers”. They were an ODD design that had never been tried before. The columns, while steel, were HOLLOW, for starters. The people you are listening to know NOTHING about the construction of the buildings.
“and why WTC7 was brought down by demolition experts”
WTC7 WASN’T brought down by demolition. And EVERY DEMOLITION EXPERT says so.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Heroes andCowards
In a preview of what will be in his report on Monday, General Petraeus lays out the good and the not so good in Iraq:
General Petraeuss Letter to the MNF
(h/t Intel Dump)
Of course, the Democrats and the media arent going to give him an…
Posted by: You Betcha I'm a Proud Army Mom | September 8, 2007, 9:47 am 9:47 am
“Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a 1962 plan by the US Department of Defense to cause acts of simulated or real terrorism and violence on US soil or against US interests, blamed on Cuba, in order to generate U.S. public support for military action against the Cuban government of Fidel Castro. As part of the U.S. government’s Operation Mongoose anti-Castro initiative, the plan, which was not implemented, called for various false flag actions, including simulated or real state-sponsored acts of terrorism (such as hijacked planes) on U.S. and Cuban soil. The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.”
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Be very afraid! Forget how corrupt the current administration is… Be very afraid! While the current administration ignores the rule of law… BE VERY AFRAID – of our own government!
Posted by: Allan_Krueger | September 8, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am
you can put me in the slightly silly and crazy crowd for all i care, i just know this matter has a very very bad odour about it
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 9:49 am 9:49 am
“and stop trowing mud at me about misspellings and weather american is a language or not”
I respect the fact that English isn’t your first language, but if you are going to argue in it, you can’t hide the deficiencies of your argument by saying “American isn’t my first language”.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 9:50 am 9:50 am
New Bin Laden Video: Taxes, Mortgages, Global Warming
U.S. intelligence official has confirmed to ABC News that initial technical analysis suggests the voice on the tape is indeed Osama Bin Laden.” Wonder if OBL also was behind that mysterious call to NY Governor Eliot Spitzer’s father? Nonetheless, in th…
Posted by: Dave Lucas' Notes | September 8, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am
where did misspelling changed any of my reasonings? now you are throwing with mud
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Michael, It is so easy to say that war for money is absurd when you don’t know what the benefits are. No offense, but it is due to ignorance. Not knowing. It is in the benefit of those truly in power that you remain there – in ignorance. You see, when a country goes to war there is money to be made by big corporations(I hope I don’t need to explain how). True, it costs the country billions if not trillions to fund such a war but where do you think they get that money from? The central banking system. The central bank then charges interest on every dollar borrowed. They were the masterminds behind the Federal Income Tax Act. In fact, nearly all, if not all, of what the government takes in through income tax is used to pay interest alone on what it owes the central bank. Do some research and enlighten your mind. Don’t depend solely on the mainstream media for your news. 99% of what you hear there is not for your benefit.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 9:56 am 9:56 am
“Does it really matter in this case how far the debris sailed? i dont see much relevance in that”
If you know ANYTHING about controlled demolition then, YES, it really DOES matter.
In a controlled demolition a building IMPLODES. Everything falls from the outside in. It creates a neat little pile right at the base of where the building used to be. A building 50 feet away isn’t even affected.
On 9/11 the buildings EXPLODED. debris flew for miles AWAY from the buildings. 6 blocks away the streets were covered in 3 inches of debris. This would NEVER EVER happen in a controlled demolition.
Not only does it MATTER, it PROVES the theory of controlled demolition absurd.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:00 am 10:00 am
then what caused such violent explosions Michael?
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Liberals,
There you have it, he’s (bin laden) saying exactly what you have been saying from the start, embrace your leader…
Even users here are saying he’s right!
What else do you need to recognize that liberals/democrats and bin laden view America as the evil doers around the world are exactly the same. So, why don’t you all convert to Islam, join al-qaeda and the jihad, and save everyone the confusion to know who’s who and what you really stand for.
Posted by: Patrick | September 8, 2007, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Did Al Gore grow his beard again?
Posted by: tim | September 8, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Usama Bin Laden being compared to a Republican is like Saying Hillary Clinton loves unborn children and she will give them protection of the U.S government until they are born.
Posted by: NAVY CHIEF | September 8, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Quote… “then what caused such violent explosions Michael?”
Perhaps…. 2000 pounds of jet fuel mixed with a weight of “Boeing 767-200ER is 395000 pound” combined with a velocity of 400 MP/h impacting a building generating about 400 Megatons of TNT?
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Posted by: Patrick | September 8, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Those of us who actually grew up love to sit back and watch these people bicker and fight over politics like 10 year old fake gang members.
It is funny that Osama dyes his beard though. He’s more American than he thinks ;)
Posted by: BW | September 8, 2007, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Michael, so that’s not ruling out the demolition theory, because also in that cenario we still have the plane crash into the building causing a huge fireball
only after that more explosions are reported en series and big explosions in between, there’s redhot metal streaming down from one corner of the building also releasing white ash, acording to Dr Jones a signature for thermite, you are saying Dr Jones is a froud? did you watch all 8 movies?
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 10:18 am 10:18 am
“Total B.S. Bin Laden is dead”
And your evidence is?
“this video is a fake! And the elite are trying to tie terrorism into the anti-globalization movement, don’t fall for it”
LMAO
“bin laden died of kidney failure 2-3 years ago.”
Wow. You know his doctor, or something?
“Use your brains it makes no sence!”
Sense, even.
“Why would bin laden delibertaly praise democrats and attack bush in a message addressed to the american people knowing that by doing so he would only increase support for bush and decrease support for democrats.”
He didn’t praise democrats. What video did YOU watch? He pretty much buried Republicans and Democrats alike.
Now he DID speak like a far left liberal, if that’s what you mean.
“Bin Laden wants in Iraq he wants us in afganistan, he wants us over there the same way the soviets were over there”
How can a dead man want us anywhere?
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Michael, your words and laughter were expected. You are defending your beliefs just as you have been programmed to. “LMAO” and “wrong” are terms one uses when one does not have an intelligent response.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 10:21 am 10:21 am
“How can a dead man want us anywhere?”
i should say the people behind the bin laden mask want us over there. perpetual war against a military tactic. classic.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
I’ll never cease to be amazed at the ability of an internet forum to attract every paranoid conspiracy theorist in the US to one place. I hate to spoil the party, but the tape is most likely real. Anyone who has worked in the classified world can tell you that conspiracies don’t work because far too many people need to be in the know to keep anything controversial a secret. Hell, we can’t even keep legitimate secrets like the NSA wiretapping from being leaked. I can only imagine the number of anonymous sources that would line up at news organizations’ doors if anything like the conspiracies being proposed here were even close to true.
Doesn’t anyone care about facts anymore? Or are we just supposed to believe anything and everything that supports our immutable preconceived point of view? Furthermore, a Bin Laden tape being released that supposedly helps one party does NOT mean that it’s a conspiracy by that party. Frankly, anyone who believes that huge conspiracies could be covered up by thousands of people who work for the government and the media are fooling themselves.
Perhaps it’s easier to accept the dangerous world we live in if we convince ourselves that someone’s in control of it all. Get a grip and accept reality.
Posted by: realist034 | September 8, 2007, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Clarification:
N. Korea is not an Islamic fascist nation.
Posted by: US Patriot | September 8, 2007, 10:26 am 10:26 am
“Michael, so that’s not ruling out the demolition theory, because also in that cenario we still have the plane crash into the building causing a huge fireball”
Yeah, 767 flying 500MPH into a freakin building will result in a huge fireball. Imagine that.
“only after that more explosions are reported”
Yep. Two 110 story buildings on fire and full of transformers. I suppose secondary explosions WILL happen.
” en series and big explosions in between, there’s redhot metal streaming down from one corner of the building also releasing white ash, acording to Dr Jones a signature for thermite, you are saying Dr Jones is a froud?”
I don’t know or care who “Dr. Jones” is. Did you know that the two men who tried to blow up that Airport building in the UK a month or so ago were also Doctors?
What ONE moron has to say means nothing to me when the EVIDENCE and the MAJORITY of experts say otherwise.
“did you watch all 8 movies?”
LMAO.
“Movies” are made to convince lemmings like you.
Evidence is what you need to look at. Not movies.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:28 am 10:28 am
“Anyone who has worked in the classified world can tell you that conspiracies don’t work because far too many people need to be in the know to keep anything controversial a secret.”
unless the conspiracy is about a bunch of militant muslim criminals planning and carrying out the hijacking of airplanes and slamming them into 3 out 4 intended targets, one of them being the military headquaters of the most militarily powerful nation on earth and the guy who plans it puts out press releases up to 6 years later and that he might kill more of us again at anytime so the best way to combat that is to invade 2 countries, let mexican trucks into the coutry easier and get americans on a national id card?
i’m supposed to accept that conspiracy theory?
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Osama, Obama, Hillary, John Edwards and all the rest of the Democrats. They all sound the same. If Osama could run for President there are many Democrats that would vote for him. That is how sick and twisted these treasonous out of touch scumbags have become. They hate this country. I’ve got a solution: Get the hell out.
Posted by: Rich | September 8, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am
“Hell, we can’t even keep legitimate secrets like the NSA wiretapping from being leaked. I can only imagine the number of anonymous sources that would line up at news organizations’ doors if anything like the conspiracies being proposed here were even close to true.”
Amen.
Can you imagine the number of conspirators it would take to pull off 9/11? Yet not a one was lured by a big book deal…LOL.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am
bin Laden has the best interests of the democrat party in his heart. Nice of the democrats to put this tape out now.
Posted by: McW | September 8, 2007, 10:32 am 10:32 am
I dont care to be a lemming, at least i am no sheep
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
“and get americans on a national id card?”
Um, Americans already have a national ID card. It’s called a social security card. The National ID card you speak of has nothing to do with Americans. It has to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Osama and Al Queda must be really be feeling the pressure. He is calling upon his greatest supporters for help….the democratic party. Hopefully we continue the attack and don’t let up. I wonder if the democratic party will ever have a candidate that will wage war against terrorism, instead of retreat and defeat.
Posted by: Mat Revluc | September 8, 2007, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Well, there’s nothing like an alleged OBL video to bring the kooks out in numbers!
Amazing how he sounds exactly like the left wing socialists in this country, Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Hillary, etc…
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | September 8, 2007, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Sounds more like a speech written by Karl Rove.
He remember’s how to whip up fear and use it for Republican advantage.
Hell he even brings in the most favored of Republican values, a tax cut using a flat tax rate
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Folks…..for gods sake dont use Wikipedia as a reference.What you read on wiki is an interpetation of facts based upon biases.Interpetation does not equal validity.
To the conspiracy nuts. I see many of you flunked basic high school physics. If you knew anything about physics you would have long ago dismissed this nonesense about implosions LONG AGO(Thank your democratic/liberal handlers for destroying public education and creating a generation of foam at the mouth idiots).
Posted by: Cellenin | September 8, 2007, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“Michael, your words and laughter were expected. You are defending your beliefs just as you have been programmed to. “LMAO” and “wrong” are terms one uses when one does not have an intelligent response.”
I, of course, ALSO destroyed your arguments yet you have no answer for that?
LMAO.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Seeing bin Laden again will only make the Democrats work harder at weakening or eliminating the Patriot Act. After that they will close Gitmo and let all the terrorists ( aka insurgents ) free. Finally they will surrender in Iraq. What happened to my once proud party?? When did the looney moonbats on the left take the Democrat party over?
Posted by: Shane | September 8, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am
“The National ID card you speak of has nothing to do with Americans. It has to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.”
That’s just the excuse, they keep letting them into the country, they keep passing measures to make it easier for cross border traffic and then they say i’v got to be put on a national id database(REAL ID ACT aimed at american’s, gives states deadlines, read it) to combat that. The national id card isn’t the same as a ss card. WAY more info. why? ss cards to dont jack to tell who’s legal or not. but a guess a national id card that’s “tamper-proof” loaded with more personal info than a 13 year olds myspace page will keep em out… yeah right.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Osama knows that all of America’s real men are already in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Japan and South Korea. There are no real men left here to stand up and fight for the freedom that we enjoy, by the spilling of previous generations of our men. Women’s lib has turned the rest of our men into a bunch of whimps
Posted by: Patty | September 8, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am
For OBL to talk the way he does, he must be hanging out here in America. It sounds like he has been hanging out with Rosie, Michael Moore, Harry Reid, and having an occasional lunch with Al Gore. The only alternative is that THIS TAPE IS A FAKE! Heck, he doesn’t even have his Islamic evangelism methods right. “I invite you to embrace Islam.” I thought it was “convert or die!”
Posted by: jman | September 8, 2007, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Well, I thunk we all need to take up a collection and buy poor Osama some new clothes. He’s been wearing the same ones for 6 years now. And maybe buy him some more hair color for his beard. Does he have running water in his cave for this? He must have access to Cable TV . . . since someone told Larry King last night that he watches his show all the time.
Hey, “U.S. Intelligence”(?) . . . how difficult is it to find a 6′ 6″ Muslim terrorist on dialysis who travels with his family???
Posted by: RDL | September 8, 2007, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Cellenin- the wiki articles are just out of convenience and the pages linked to have sources contained in them. debate the content, not what site it’s from. and i didn’t say anything about inplosions…
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Bin Laden Chides His Democrat Allies For Not Saving al-Qaeda From Defeat
Bin Laden is as frustrated with the Democrats in the US Congress as the far leftwing is for not surrendering Iraq to al-Qaeda as they threatened to do when they voted to de-fund the war effort. He says so in his latest video which seems to be a clear …
Posted by: The Strata-Sphere | September 8, 2007, 10:44 am 10:44 am
The video is about as real as Star Trek. Or did Osama go back in time via a trans warp conduit initiated by the Borg and make a video tape when he was younger and send it to our time? Have you ever noticed that the timing of these videos conveniently deflects attention from something going on eleswhere within the United States?
Posted by: Jim Smythe | September 8, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am
So they have the tech to prove it’s bin laden but not the tech to track him down? makes sense. They never caufght they guys behind the anthrax attacks either(you know, the anthrax that was traced to a u.s. military lab). STOP BUYING INTO IT!
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Well, since just about everybody else on the planet has posted a comment here, why not another? First, I find it incredibly incongruent that those saying GWB is the stupidest person on the planet also thinks he was able to pull off 9/11, generate fake UBL tapes, start a fake war in Afghanistan and Iraq, have some worldwide organization commit 400 terrorist acts a year for more than 10 years before his election, and currently foil a Democrat-controlled congress, just to name a few. Second, reverse psychology by a massive propaganda machine has infiltrated the far left to get people, through lies, illogical theories and blatant innuendo to start accusing your very own government of deception (for those of you who have swallowed that position, “good luck, buckwheat” for either way it goes, you have lost big time!), and finally, the forces arrayed against western civilization and democracy are formidable, growing, and will be the defining battle of this earth’s history. Figure it out and choose now whether you want liberty or sharia law. As for me, I will fight to the death for liberty, but will also admonish many of you to understand one thing–if UBL’s latest talking points are the same as the Daily Kos and other organs of the far left, it should give you pause, for either way it can be (a “mysterious fabrication” consistent with the Left’s talking points, or a genuine tape consistent with the Left’s talking points), it is consistent with the Left’s talking points. It doesn’t matter, now, does it?
Posted by: Rockyspoon | September 8, 2007, 10:55 am 10:55 am
OBL makes some good points, even true ones. As any one of us knows, a good lie always has elements of the truth. Mistakes and atrocities have been made on both sides. None of us are innocent. Where OBL errs most is his naming and blaming while taking no responsibility, or very little. His main message, “You made me, us, do this…” And then he actually preaches at the American government, and we, the American people, that if only WE would change then HE would be happy… Sound familiar? This guy could benefit from an Al-Anon meeting, and maybe the U.S. could benefit from an A.A. meeting, since we seem to get a little drunk on our own power once in a while.
Wish we could all just “Live and Let Live.”
Posted by: Steve S. | September 8, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Every time I read these articles people either slam the government or back it without question. No one is ever happy, but has it occured to anyone that YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT. If you don’t like what they do, then get elected and do something better. Until you show some attempt, your just the lazy version of our “horrible leadership.” I support anyone who gets elected 100 percent because I put them there, directly or not.
Posted by: humblemarine | September 8, 2007, 10:58 am 10:58 am
“Cellenin- the wiki articles are just out of convenience”
Linking to Wiki isn’t convenience, it’s pure laziness. Wikipedia is absolutely THE worst source to use. Nothing on it is verified or verifiable. Any idiot can be the source of the info without any real oversight.
So don’t get mad when someone dismisses your bogus cite. Because it IS bogus.
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 10:59 am 10:59 am
The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing.”
So, he’s NOT claiming 9-11 was an Al-Queda plan?
Posted by: joey big time | September 8, 2007, 11:00 am 11:00 am
“If you don’t like what they do, then get elected and do something better.”
LOL. Most of these people don’t even know where there local polling place is, let alone vote, and you want them to RUN for office? ;-)
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 11:02 am 11:02 am
michael- just a note, “lol” and “lmao” as a response is pretty lame.
“they” being the current and former administrations. measures being NAFTA, the SPP, ect. Watch the news any? see the spot about TEAMSTERS and the like being pissed about the trucks? With that new highway going straight through the heart of the country they don’t even chk for contraband(i think that the word) until Kansas. good for businesses in the three countries if goods can be shipped faster and easier, but not so good for stemming the flow of illeagal immigrants. and you’re right “we NEED to know way more about the people who AREN’T CITIZENS” and “The ID card has NOTHING to do with keeping them out.”, so why implement it? gather info on the ones who clearly are not supposed to be here and expel them(like the ones taking space in our prisons) gathering and centralizing more info on citizens doesn’t do that though they present it as part of a solution. they already refuse to get rid of the ones they know are not here legally, what is the point in starting a national id database to define who is or who isn’t here legal some more if you don’t go with the info you already have? makes no sense. because the national id card has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with the centralization of info on u.s. citizens. bush workjing on what clinton started.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
[i]Is it just me, or is OBL more honest and believable than Bush? How shameful is it the the words of a murderous terrorist scumbag carry more truth than those of the President?
I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.
Posted by: kev | Sep 7, 2007 3:01:49 [/i]
It’s just you. Don’t you get it? You’re doing the thing he wants, having sympathy for him merely because he spouts some random left talking points? Don’t you realize part of Jihad and part of being a Muslim and converting the world allows him to lie through his teeth to you, to confuse you and sap your will to fight him? Look it up. The have NO respect for any Dhimmi, it’s in the Koran.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer | September 8, 2007, 11:07 am 11:07 am
“Wikipedia is absolutely THE worst source to use. Nothing on it is verified or verifiable. Any idiot can be the source of the info without any real oversight.” as i stated, sources for the info in the articles are present on the pages linked to. do you claim the info is incorrect and if so what in particular. saying “oh it’s from wiki.” oesn’t address the content, just your bias about a site you probably use regularly.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 11:08 am 11:08 am
This video really doesnt shock me much. In the video they interpret Usama Bin Laden to have said : ” I invite you to embrace Islam ” and something about Islam has no taxes just a 2.5% alma. To me that means they dont wish to wipe_out America they rather instead wish to ” Take Over and Rule ” America in America. Taking into consideration Bin laden made remark about the taxes is like him saying it isnt just our religeon he wants to have converted but our entire country. did anyone else get this out of that ? maybe I am wrong, but I doubt it.
Posted by: E.M. | September 8, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am
“So they have the tech to prove it’s bin laden but not the tech to track him down? makes sense.”
Of course it does. Comparing voice tracks is pretty simple.
Tracking someone down who is hiding out in a part of the world you aren’t even allowed to look is a tad bit harder…
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
In case there are still some out there that don’t get it yet… there is no Al Quaida. It’s a manufactured enemy.
Many know who the enemy is and know that the US media is the mouthpiece for it.
Posted by: tim osman | September 8, 2007, 11:15 am 11:15 am
So, it’s understandable to believe that there’s a massive shadowy network of powerful people trying to kill us for religious reasons and that they can pull of attacks like 9/11 and in spain, britain and they like and we’re all in danger if we don’t support our militant political leaders who say it’s an endless fight but we can win it, we just can’t catch the leader of this organization even when putting out press releases.
but to say that the above might be a load of crap propagated by those same political militants for to gain and maintain their own economic, military, and religous/cultural beliefs is out of line? even though political leaders have done so(successfully) before?
i’m convinced, let’s be scared of the bearded man…
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Can’t wait to see you all eat crow, when we are attacked again. This is not a bogus tape, when will people realize that both sides of the gov’t are not doing a damn thing for the American people and that we need a SERIOUS change in the way things are done.
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am
“as i stated, sources for the info in the articles are present on the pages linked to.”
And I’m telling you this is meaningless when the original source is suspect.
“do you claim the info is incorrect and if so what in particular.”
I claim that Wiki doesn’t lend itself to credibility, hence anyone using it as a source is wasting their time.
“saying “oh it’s from wiki.” oesn’t address the content, just your bias about a site you probably use regularly.”
LOL. Nope. I NEVER EVER use Wiki as a source, nor do I ever look for info from it. I’m much smarter than that. ;-)
Posted by: Michael | September 8, 2007, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Al Qaeda isn’t nearly as threatening to them as a bill to ban partial birth abortions. They’ve misplaced their values to such an extent that they are just a short step away from helping our enemies put a stop to the greatest country in the history of the world. That said, if Howard Dean would have been quoted as saying all that, I don’t think anyone would have doubted it. I wonder what FDR or Kennedy or Scoop Jackson would think about their party about now?
Posted by: Gary | September 8, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Funny how the posts turn crazy after midnight. Lots of little mogwai becoming gremlins.
Jet fuel is not ‘flammable’ it is ‘combustible’ which means, when exposed to high enough temperatures, it becomes an explosive force.
Why is it that bridges capable of carrying tanks have collapsed under the weight of marching soldiers half the weight? Harmonic resonance.
The impact, from an engineering standpoint, produces stress BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE STRUCTURE’S DESIGN. Sky scrapers are balanced against forces that may impact it’s delicate ligaments from the GROUND. Earthquake fears, terrorist attacks, compromised support elements are all designed to be absorbed by the less rigid steel components, with brittle concrete used (supported with rebar) to bear weight.
The weight of the structure, coupled with a focal point of impacted, and then combustible energy, SHOULD have fallen. It’s no mystery.
And quit whining about Bush. This economy lost trillions of dollars that day- not to mention 30% of the nation’s most valuable real-estate, and then hundreds of billions in related costs and lost commerce BEFORE clean-up began. Another few hundred billion disappeared there.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am
“LOL. Nope. I NEVER EVER use Wiki as a source, nor do I ever look for info from it. I’m much smarter than that. ;-)”
yeah, your constant “LOL”s, refusal to acknowledge content based soley on source bias instead of reasoned arguement, and the smiley face all clearly point to a high IQ.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Yes Yes – fight global warming… and let all the illegal immigrants in (never mind those who came in legally and followed the rules of law)… and then when another 9-11 happens, we’ll all go home to our “green” cars and “green” homes and feel so much better about ourselves for ignoring the vast threat
Posted by: K.C. | September 8, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Congratulations to the democrats for picking up the Bin Laden endorsement once again. It’s been obvious that the interests of the democrats and Al Quaeda have been aligned for some time. Al Quaeda couldnt possibly have a better freind than the party of Defeat and Retreat. It seems like they never lose an opportunity to undermine homeland security or the war effort, and UBL is just showing his proper thanks. This generation of Americans is unfit to fight evil in their time like their parents and grandparents did, because they dont even know what evil is. To them, good and evil are just relative, judgemental concepts.
Posted by: Ty Harris | September 8, 2007, 11:30 am 11:30 am
To Joey Big Time with your question regarding “The innocence of yours is like my innocence of the blood of your sons on the 11th — were I to claim such a thing.” Bin Laden is castigating the US for being guilty. Hence, in this statement he’s equating (his perception of) guilt to guilt. So no, he’s not denying involvement on the 11th–he’s blatantly taking credit for it. Putting it in other terms, he’s accusing us by saying “You’re just as guilty as I was on the 11th.”
Posted by: Rockyspoon | September 8, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Maybe Id Software can make a Iraq war game for the new PlayStation that way, most of the people posting here might actually make some sense. Otherwise, a 30-40 yr old, living at home with mommy, writing blogs all day does not an expert make.
Posted by: Chuckles | September 8, 2007, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Except for the references to a god, any god, I thought it was leader of the Democrate party. I had to go back and see for sure who had said this it sounded like the same talking points.
Posted by: seeing the obvious | September 8, 2007, 11:40 am 11:40 am
A little helpful hint: George Bush is NOT responsible for the way you FEEL. Your inequity, low self-esteem and conflicted morality and ideals are YOURS and YOURS ALONE.
Don’t hate America, man. It just appears foolish when anyone can stand in the least oppressive nation on the planet and see only oppression. When someone can stand in the least imperialistic nation on the planet and see only imperialism, they are beyond foolish.
See that you carefully follow the line between ‘freedom of speech’ and ‘treason.’ I would hate for you to cross it, and then complain when the FBI knocks on your door. Of course, in your mind, that would be more evidence of erroding rights, correct?
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 11:42 am 11:42 am
It sure seems to me from the statement that the Democratic party in wanting to pull out troops is just what he wants. Does that not dawn on people in this country?
Posted by: Earl Williams | September 8, 2007, 11:45 am 11:45 am
well anyway, i said my bit, I encourage everyone reading this to look into the facts themselves, ask questions, be critical!
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Let’s just say I sleep better at night knowing that we have a great Commander in the office. As far as the picture goes, it looks fairly grainy. So I am going to guess Osama is most likely dead. Don’t you think he would release more statements if he was all powerful and more often?
Posted by: Johnny Knoxville | September 8, 2007, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Oh, how i missed the reasoned and intelligent conservative platform. Where are you american conservative?
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Just read the moronic neocon comments here, and there is no doubt that they are a thousand times more dangerous than all of Al Qeada. Osama destroyed the W.T.C., but the neocons just used him as an excuse to destroy the constitution, our civil rights, and freedom. Osama had nothing to do with any of that, just like Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.
Posted by: lib | September 8, 2007, 11:50 am 11:50 am
To Kev’s comment
“I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.”
You are the target audience for OBL. If he gets enough fools like you the west we will never eliminate the threat of terrorism because we will be forced deal with it with our hands behind our backs. Kev, if you live in the US please hate the US enough to leave.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am
This is all simple. Bin Laden is hiding somewhere. There are both special ops and most likely private bounty type groups looking for him ($millions in reward money ). If he is alive he will be found and killed. Don’t knock the many fine special ops people who have the tough job of risking their own lives to fine OBL’s rathole. They will get him sooner or later.
Posted by: Shane | September 8, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am
To Kev’s comment
“I do not fear terrorists. I do fear our government.”
You are the target audience for OBL. If he gets enough fools like you the west we will never eliminate the threat of terrorism because we will be forced deal with it with our hands behind our backs. Kev, if you live in the US please hate the US enough to leave.
Posted by: Randy | September 8, 2007, 11:52 am 11:52 am
As for President Bush’s statement that Iraq is a focus of terror I can only say, It is now.
Posted by: Phil | September 8, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am
areyoukidding said: “K-nut, is it OK if instead of ‘being critcal’ I think crtically?”
That would be perfect and i hope all you americans will :)
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Liberal Liam – what you are saying is exactly the same thing Osama said. You guys agree on virtually everything.
Posted by: Tony | September 8, 2007, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Note to lib & all the rest of you LIBS: Please volunteer for OBL’s conversion to Islam. It’s fools like you who are so enamored with OBL and his minions that you hate Bush, Republicans, etc., and will become OBL’s slaves or possibly his victims when he sharpens his knives!! Good luck, Chums!!…. >:-)!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Hey dude, im a european, our boys are fighting as well in iraque and afganistan, i have no problem with americans, you freed us after all, its only the people you have placed in power that bothers me
Posted by: Knut | September 8, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Boy, Bin Laden sure has a lot in common with Pelosi, Reid, and Murtha. Maybe the Democrats need to bring him to America and run him for President. He’s too late to cash in on Hsu’s contributions, tho, but I hear that he’s a pretty wealth guy anyway.
Posted by: Bill Sanford | September 8, 2007, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“there are no taxes in Islam”…….this guy is a riot….there is no freedom in UBL’s Islam….I’d rather pay taxes.
Posted by: mderosa | September 8, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
The whole tape was manufactured in Hollywood, It’s sad to see a democratic country like the U.S have these kind of leaders who are willing to misguide their people to gain support for an unnecessary war.
Posted by: Truth | September 8, 2007, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d say that Bin “Out-Laden” is living right here in the middle of the States…probably even has a U.S. driver’s license, and is voting What does he expect us to do?….Yeah, we’re going to become muslim JUST because you tell us to…
Get a real purpose in life, Bin Lard-o, and crawl back under that rock you slithered out from under….
Posted by: Scott | September 8, 2007, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Hey!!!
I seen on video from Osma Bin Laden that he already dyed black beard
It would lead to very danger to US soil
UBL is SATAN!!!! SATAN!!!SATAN!!!
GOD WILL PUNISH HIM!!!! Arrest him!!!!
Posted by: Mark Hollcraft | September 8, 2007, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
I seems that our liberal friends that have posted have managed to lump religion, anything conservative, anything that disagrees with their views, anything regarding the Bush Administration, Islam, Terror and anything perceived to be wrong with democracy all in one pot. Our rabid liberal friends percieve anything that doesn’t go their way to be “Neo Conservative”. It seems to me we have a bunch of whiners and slackers that probably didn’t even vote blowing off steam. The second thing to fear besides terrorism in the US is these idiots who have no solutions to anything and can only demean and point fingers. The liberal movement use to have solutions and ideas. Now it is just a bunch of cry baby losers.
Posted by: Skate | September 8, 2007, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
“Ah tried and ah tried to git bin Ladin. And ah failed.” – Bill Clinton 2007
NUFF SAID!!!
Posted by: John D. Patriot | September 8, 2007, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Bin Laden KNEW what the American response to 9/11 would be – he orchestrated that infamy knowing full well what it would bring about – the real question is WHY? He is not a stupid man – he knew what he was doing.
So there are real questions we should ask, that are not addressed in the tape?
Why DOES he hate Iraq? Or is it Islam that was all along his secret target? Is he a self-hating Moslem that is trying to commit religious suicide-by-response?
These are questions he is not addressing – these are the answers the world needs…
Posted by: littlebillie | September 8, 2007, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Democrats. It’s scary how moronic you are. “It’s a conspiricy” haha… get a life. and well your at it get a job, or better yet get out of america.
Posted by: educated | September 8, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
“LMAO” and “wrong” were your arguments? You just made my point.
Posted by: Big Tex | September 8, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Hey, Big Tex? 2002 called, it wants its discredited rhetoric back.
Tell us, what did history sound like when it passed you and your other 28 percenters by?
Posted by: J.D. Rhoades | September 8, 2007, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
What would happen if some Americans made a tape similar to the propaganda the radical islamics put out and sent it to Al-jazeera??
Posted by: James | September 8, 2007, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Could be John Kerry in drag. Karl Rove may have put him up to this.
Posted by: George | September 8, 2007, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Our forefathers laid down an ideal, a philosophy that made us Americans. They did not build a government that made us Americans. If the ignorance of citizens like “Ed” becomes the dominant belief, America no longer exists. Instead, we will be left with a shell, a label called “The United States…” At that point, I would prefer it’s destruction. I was born to live in a free nation. Not one where freedom and liberty is an illusion.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I can’t believe OBL would keep out of sight for years and then make a tape for no obvious purpose. I’m worried there are people waiting out in the US for a signal from the top. I am very worried the big one is around the corner. He said the 2006 election didn’t change anything and he made an offer to us to convert. That sounds like a direction from the Koran before this nut flips the switch.
Posted by: J Dyke | September 8, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Democrats and republicans are not two sides of the same coin. That is a simplistic and abject conclusion made by some to promote hate.
One stands for less government, moral reponsibility (morality is only subjective to those bereft of it) and fiscal priority.
The other is for devaluing children and sex through disposable methods, no fault divorce, a slew of anti-family legislation and the abandonment of its core values- tolerance for others and the promotion of the working man- in favor of political wrangling.
Our system is the shining star of stability throughout the world. The more fanatics that hate us, the better. Loathing, as displayed here, is counter-productive from them, and from you liberal pessimists.
Seriously. Ten dollar fine for assaulting liars, and those who libel our elected leaders or our military members.
Hell, make it a fifty dollar fine.
POW! Here’s your fifty. POW! Here’s your fifty. POW! and here’s YOUR fifty.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Interesting how Bin Laden is now one of the official spokesmen for the Left Wing of the Democrat Party. In fact the net is full of Democrat Left Wing Nuts who are openly saying they agree with OBL and that OBL is better for America than Bush, etc, etc. Interesting how the Democrat Left Wing and Bin Laden both have the exact same Bush Derangement Syndrome.
I think it speaks volumes about the vile effect on America and the Democrat Party that the political Left has created
Posted by: NOAM | September 8, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
It’s not hard to figure out. He and his ilk want the democrats in charge, want troops pulled out of everywhere, so they can fill any vacuum left wherever we leave and rebuild their power and numbers. Not hard to figure out at all. He’s not even worth the few minutes it’d take to read the garbage he speaks.
Posted by: John | September 8, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Ed — Would you apply, or have applied, that same fine to all those who lied about Bill Clinton, and the myriad of libelous stories created in an organized attack against the former President?
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Ed- you make a lot of claims, but besides trumping up your own resume, I don’t know what facts you put behind your opinions. To call others out to point out facts, while only spewing your own rhetoric is also counterproductive to debate. And to claim that Democrats are against women’s rights? Are you paying any attention? The democrats have a female speaker for the first time in history and the first woman with a chance in hell of being president. I don’t know how those two things can be viewed as counterproductive to the womens’ right movement.You also claim to be a proponent of democracy but want to restrict free speech. You can’t have it both ways Edward. Make up your mind.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
in other words, conservatives in this country took a wrong turn when they started to care more about gaining power and getting their balls back after 8 years of clinton, and less about their princippals and their decency. lower taxes, lower spending, stop interfering with the interal politics of other countries
Posted by: conservatism1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
As a proud libertarian conservative, I believe that it is time to take up arms against the cowards, such as Ed and John and the rest of the neo-cons. It’s time to fight those who seek to destroy the American ideal in favor of a fascist neo-con philosophy that more closely resembles dogmatic Stalin than the words of Jefferson, Adams, Paine and the brilliant men who formed this nation.
Live free or die. There is no other way.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
The old Bin Laden pulled from the rabbit’s hat tape would have been more convincing if the “powers that be” had stayed away from 1. Bin Laden wanting to convert “all” Americans to Islam. I doubt if Bin Laden gives a hoot about what religion Americans practice. 2. Bin Laden hating our “Democratic way of life.” Again, I doubt if he or anyone from that region actually cares one way or the other. Now, on the other hand if the tape had said something to the effect, “We knew you would one day come for our oil and we have prepared to defend out land.” You know something of that nature, the tape would have been more believable. What’s troubling, is this present administration has so little regard for the intelligence of the American people that it thinks it can actually pull this off and no one not question the validity of the tape. Shows how dumb this admn. thinks the American people to be.
Posted by: 4 Shame | September 8, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
MAD MAN MOON-
Justice isn’t reserved for Republicans, and is one of the finer aspects of the visionaries who created this great nation.
Of course, I don’t know of any lies about Clinton. In fact, except for his own lies, he was given a wide berth by Republicans. We never complained when he started wars (Kosovo) or mandated justice (sustained airstrikes against IRAQ that were UNILATERAL).
But, yes, of course. Anyone who purposely made up stories to villify him, as a political tool, should have been beaned. I would have beaned them, were my bill passed.
The difference between us is that while I may not agree with what you say, I WILL stand in the street and defend your right to say it to the death.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
you knwo what the problem is MadManMoon? the people just haven’t bothered to take a close look at who the neoconservatives are, what neoconservatism is, and why it has been effective at fighting the left only by joining it’s ranks at the expense of conservative ideals.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“Millions for defense but not one cent for tribute”
- Thomas Jefferson regarding the practice of paying tribute to the Barbary Pirates…
Posted by: Robert Lambert | September 8, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Jenny makes a stupid point. I vote based on who will lower my taxes. If Democrats didn’t need to raise them all the time, and would have offered to lower mine, I wouldn’t have voted for Bush. So there you go Democrats, if you want to get into power, lower taxes. It is that simple.
Posted by: Adam | September 8, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Well, well, well….seems you LIBs now have a friend in ‘ol OBL himself! Does the pity party start on your end, or will you be inviting OBL to the democratic convention of traitors to America?? What say you, LIBs, do you like your new friend OBL?? What a terrible mess this world is in!! We can only hope that good Americans will not take this BS lightly!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Why don’t you LIBs just print out a picture of OBL from one of these web sites, cut around the edges, take picture out, enlargen it, tie a string around it and wear it for a Halloween mask? That way, you’re sure to get many treats at LIB’s residences on Halloween!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
One thing is certain, OBL would not be begging the Democrats to step up and do their part if he could defeat us without their help.
Posted by: victor stella | September 8, 2007, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
areyoukidding- no one said anything about killing. but we need to take the party back from the leftists.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Its easy to make OBL sound like a DNC guest speaker because he is no longer alive. Any idiot who looks at this tape and believes that it is OBL needs to have his eyes examined. Its amazing what a fatal kidney problem can do for your health and appearance, isn’t it?
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
OSama has the same political writers as the Dem’s. Will he appear at the next debate?
Posted by: Bob check | September 8, 2007, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
Osama is dead. Period. ABC news should be ashamed for running this tripe. What is this becoming a sensational rag?
Posted by: Pat Shearon | September 8, 2007, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Bring out the boogeyman again, its election time and another scandal has rocked the GOP! Rediculous how great OBL’s timing is with these appearances, seemingly buoying the hopes and dreams of republicans everywhere. His appearance is either a miracle of biblical proportions (he can rise from the dead), or he is some sort of talking puppet. Speak puppet, for it is time….
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Overall, it’s is quite apparent that Americans are bringing our country down themselves (unconsciously, I suppose) by refusing to stop the “Defend our OWN Party–come hell or high water” attitude. Politics should be thrown out the door and all Americans should be working TOGETHER to protect our Great country and our people (Remember, United We Stand)?
Instead, we let our “Parties” think for us and play follow the leader. Americans need to LEARN how to THINK FOR THEMSELVES again and then work as an intelligent unit to resolve the issue. Elect leaders who truly represent what each individual American thinks with their OWN brain Forget the Party lines.
When we turn the safety of our country over to egotistical, self-centered, people or organizations, we set ourselves up to be lied to and deceived for their own benefit…not our benefit and not our countries benefit. We also need to be Honest with ourselves and face the facts when they are right there in front of us.
Like it or not, Clinton had MANY warnings on Bin Laden, but was less concerned with Bin Laden blowing up our country than he was with being blown up by Monica in the Oval Office. This whole mess got Dumped on Bush and Bush has now managed to blow it to a new level.
We don’t need any more Clinton’s of any kind, and we don’t need any more Bush’s. We need a true dedicated AMERICAN whose love of our country and people comes above and beyond his/her own personal desires!
Posted by: Laurie | September 8, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Disney’s NEWEST animatronic character; UBL! Coming to a theme park near you, with the NEW Michael Moore model!
Posted by: splattypus | September 8, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Hey “rob-is-right”
Hillary is just “Bush” with “balls”
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
But election time is coming and with the lack of results in Iraq and yet another scandal, the Republicans have to pull out the heavy ammunition a little early. Don’t be so naive.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
In fact, hypocrisy is constantly displayed by the left. Culture of fear to pit haves against have nots- since people of means overwhelmingly vote republican, it measures fairly that republicans want more people to have money.
I have at no point promoted an idea against free speech. I simply expanded the philosophy to allow for more effective speech against imbeciles and liars.
And you have no idea what that provision in the constitution is for, do you? Read the supreme court cases involving the first amendment. It is to protect reasonable thought and discourse, not libel or hate.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Our concern need not be with taxes and other fiscal issues we traditionally find ourselves at odds with those on the left. Whether or not I pay $1000 a year more in taxes is superfluous when compared with the threat to liberty that we face in the neo-cons. How much money I do or do not fork over in taxes means nothing when compared to how much liberty is forked over in the face of a contrived, perpetual threat. I can always make more money, but once individual liberty is lost, it is nearly impossible to get it back without a violent revolution.
These frauds have kidnapped the word “conservative” and wrapped it in religion and warfare. They have redefined “patriotism” to mean a nationalistic love of one’s country, as opposed to a love and respect for the IDEALS of ones country — a very important distinction.
Be prepared folks. This little article conveniently aligns the words and beliefs of those who exercise dissent and disagreement with the Bush regime, with that of the so-called “enemy”. Combine this with the executive order that allows the government to seize the assets of those who show opposition to the policies in Iraq and you have a dangerous situation brewing. Slowly, in drips over time, the foundation for tyranny and Stalinist-like authoritarianism has been laid. Executive orders, misinformation, and unprecedented police power have been laid out for the Executive branch to use at will. There is plenty of reason to believe that these powers will be used.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Ed, well its pretty easy to debate your “restriction” on free speech. You see, much like many of the policies enacted by the Bush administration (ignoring Geneva convention laws, false imprisonment, secret prisons, illegal wiretapping, prisoner abuse) fining people for speech contrary to what you have been brainwashed to believe, would be contrary to the constitution. And yes Edward, I have a full grasp of the original intent of these amendments. What you describe would be more typical of a dictatorship, not a democracy. And by the way, Fred Thompson is no Reagan. And even if he was, who would want another Reagan? Fred Thompson is a joke, Edwards would put a beating on him in a national election and he’s the DNC’s third option.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
MadManMoon- amen brother
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Neoconservatism is just Ultra liberal in conservative clothing
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
areyoukidding?- right here. Ron Paul ’08
Funny, they don’t say “hilary spammers” or “rudy spammers”… but i guess that what to expect from those who don’t don’t have that kind of passion.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
OBL works for us FOOL
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
are you kidding- for what? Well let’s see. There is the lack of progress in Iraq, the low approval ratings of Bush, the Craig scandal, the lack of a viable candidate for president, the upcoming Petraeus lies, and a growing sense across the country that things need to change. Most of the “candidates” in the republican field are major Iraq war supporters, and they support the “surge”. Today, Bush came out and said that this tape was another example of why we need to be in Iraq. So, there is no connection between Iraq and 9/11, but there is a connection between Iraq and the mastermind of 9/11. Fuzzy logic.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Ol’ Bush Co. brings out the CIA-boogeyman Tim Osman once again when things aren’t going well for them.
Posted by: Jeff from West Virginia | September 8, 2007, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
There is a low grade civil war simmering, not in Iraq, but in the U.S. Homeland. I too look forward to seeing the US Military Government Media “Brought to Justice”. The cognitive dissonance is real thick. 2,182 days since WMD said he’d catch 9/11 “Conspirator” UBL to justice?
USA USA
Posted by: Post American | September 8, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
OBL is a card carring Republican…{:o)
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I’m not a Democrat or a Republican, just a very angry post american. What in the heck happened to the rest of ya?
Posted by: Post American | September 8, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
I miss my America
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Ed, there is a difference between retreat, and bringing our soldiers home because they are caught in the cross-fire of a foreign civil war. We need to quit valuing “saving face” over the lives of innocent young Americans who are fighting for this country.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
yeah, me too
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
What ever happen to the Conservative party????
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
An eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, killer for killer; what a blind and degenerative society. The nuts that live by the sword will die by the sword and those that live by mercy will willingly die with the hope that the killer will repent and become merciful. If the US doesn’t get him then those that share his philosophy will seek his blood in vengence for the lives of their women and children he has murdered in the name of his self righteous cause. “With Alah’s permission”, “God willing”, what a way to thumb your nose at diety. “Stop me if you care.”
Posted by: lorax_mbell | September 8, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
but BU36 dont you get it. as long as they call us cowards and use words like “victory” and “retreat” to describe their endless war then it’s like being double dog dared, we have to keep feeding the flames or they start making the chicken noises and that’s beats a reasoned argument every time….
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Why do you call yourself “Satan’sDoorman” is that an indicator of your stance????
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
This is the best tape from Bin Laden. He is so frightened he has shaven his beard and flipped his wig. Yeah, flipped it and put it on his face. He obviously watches the TV or Internet, so, since your so into the news, read this Bin Laden.
Posted by: Tom Burriss | September 8, 2007, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
This is the best tape from Bin Laden. He is so frightened he has shaven his beard and flipped his wig. Yeah, flipped it and put it on his face. He obviously watches the TV or Internet, so, since your so into the news, read this Bin Laden.
Posted by: Tom Burriss | September 8, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
I read in disbelief at the rantings of the left wing on this forum , they don’t understand that no one could pull off what they accuse our president of doing , attacking the trade center and killing over 3,000 people , does any one out there realize what would be involved in setting this up and carrying it out. first you would need about ten thousand people you could trust to keep a secret , (impossible to find two people that can do that ,keep a secret)and you would sit and live in fear that one or two of those people would rat you out, although the democrats has tried to do just that but they have no proof and there isn’t any to be had. people we are in a war for the very existence of our country and our way of life. can you convert to Islam? can you bow down to Alla every morning with out fail and your wife would be subject to being stoned to death on any given day if she shows some skin or is even accused of doing that also, your young daughters would be subject to the same . , are you people in the dark that bad that you don’t know what is at stake here.
Posted by: Ken Roberts | September 8, 2007, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
2.5% tax rate under Islam???!!! Hrmm, sounds 31% better than what I got now.
Posted by: Brent | September 8, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Satan’sDoorman- nah, everyone judges their own kid mor eharshly, we just expected more from the repubs, our mistake i guess. i have no prob giving to both parties and i think he did accuse the clinton’s of murder, seems fairly even handed to me.
Posted by: conservative1985 | September 8, 2007, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Yes! Jim Jones, I know that name from Wikipedia edits.
Posted by: Josh Hamilton | September 8, 2007, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
The dialog on this blog is laughable
If you’re following the market closely you will not that there is a run on derivatives, CDOs. CLOs etc. and the BIS estimates that it amounts to over $600 trillion (over 10x the GDP of the world)
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
areyoukidding- General Petraeus is just a pawn in this game. My problem is not with him, its with the blatant fixing of the numbers! This war is a lie and the numbers on human death tolls in Iraq are complete fabrications. They don’t count victims who were shot in the front of the head as sectarian violence, but they count those who are shot in the back of the head. They reason that someone who is shot in the front of the head likely was killed in either Sunni on Sunni or Shiite on Shiite crimes.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
To Joe Ford:
Your right, the US gov’t has a look alike for UBL, and just gives the tape exclusively to ABC.
Posted by: Scott | September 8, 2007, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Ed — I will not get into a match over who is more conservative. It is a distraction from the true matters at hand. What I can tell you is that I have spent my entire life attending BBQ’s at Scamman’s farm with the honored guests spending spending significant time in the living room of my parent’s home, and after I married, in the living room of my home. This is the first time in forty years that the tradition has stopped. There is no need for it.
The ideals of Goldwater and Reagan have remained continuous. Yet those ideals are now labeled as “liberal” by neo-conservatives. If an element or belief is continuous, yet it’s labeling has changed by some, then clearly we can see where the movement occurred.
SatansDoorman — I assure you, I will not cower. I will take inspiration from my forefathers and show the same will for individual freedom and individual liberty. If you believe that those who embrace these ideals are truly weak, then you make the grand mistake of under-estimating your enemy. For me, this gives comfort.
BTW — Where else would one such as myself “hide behind” other than a keyboard when participating on a blog? Again, if you believe that this is the only place where I disseminate my views, you are mistaken. Nice attempt at dismissal based slander however.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
This doesn’t make sense. Either Osama is using Grecian Formula or he has a fake beard on. What would the effect of either be on his followers? Would he put out a video like this if he had half a brain? What is really going on here?
Posted by: Tacker | September 8, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
So is the U.S. Military still hunting for Nine Eleven Conspirator UBL? Oh! So uh how many troops do we have in Pakistan? What a soverign nation! Oh! Our former ally Saddam was “Secular” and enemies with Iran and Al Qaeda. Nine Eleven, never forget, remember? So where is the Nine Eleven Justice? Anthrax Justice? Is the US Military still protecting the Constitution? Oh!
Posted by: Post American | September 8, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Apparently you are having trouble reading then.
The fine isn’t for the liars, it is instead for assaulting the liars. Of both parties. I would go so far as to promote a law that allows politicians to sue each other over libel.
It is not a restriction, but instead a cause and effect response to anyone willing to render truth obsolete through methods of confusion
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Hey “Ed” the economy grew because we printed it into existance… The dollar has lost 65% of it’s buying power… that means that all the growth is just asset inflation…
…and inflation is just an invisable tax on the middle class
….your ball
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Ed, you ask for examples, and I give you examples. If you want the truth, that is something you will have to find yourself. I have done my research and all of my examples are factually backed. I will leave it up to you to do some homework and get down on some research.
We won the Vietnam War? Well, I guess there will be no further debate with you. That claim is laughable, and substantiates my view that debate with you is no longer necessary. You probably think we’ve “won” in Iraq and Afghanistan. We clearly have a different view of “winning” and “winners”.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Has anyone out there seen the 2 BBC documentaries:
“The Century of Self” and “The Power of Nightmares”????
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Right on BU36…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
“What is more important are the folks posting radical extremist comments on this blog.”
LULZ — Standing up, fighting for the Constitution and embracing the ideals of our forefathers is now considered “radical extremist comments.”
Oh my how things have changed. Some fail to remember that this nation is still young — not even 250 years old. Our status as a superpower, and “empire” if you will, has only been solidified in the last 60 years. More powerful empires have come before us. Their downfall can be found in the same arrogance shown today by our leaders and their followers. Their destruction can be attributed to the same mistakes this nation is making today.
History tells us that every empire in the past believed that they were infallible, the chosen ones, that they held the moral superiority to hold on to their status and the military power to back it up. In all cases, these empires were either supplanted by morally inferior and militarily weaker nations, or imploded from within. In all cases, the warnings of the empire’s downfall were drowned out by those who professed the ignorance of infallibility.
Today, we witness the same signs that the empire may crumble.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Right wing plots and jingoism?How about left wing(read communist,after all when you take socialism so far left it’s the same thing) paranoia and delusion!It’s not the big bad wolf at the door,that would be easy to deal with.It’s a fundemental attack on our way of life,regardless of where you stand politically!The Islamist radicals HATE us and NOTHING we do or can do will ever change that fact!This is the ultimate culture clash and if we don’t prevail there will be no opposition to the mullahs or there fatwahs.WAKE UP and smell the coffee ,it’s burning!
Posted by: Willy G. | September 8, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
If you guys really loved America you would see that the destruction of our economy will do much more harm to our way of life that a whole jumbo jet full of OBL could ever acheive…{:o(
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
The islamic radicals don’t hate our way of life as much as they hate our support of Israel, and our military presence in their holy lands. These are the real reasons we are at war with terror.
Posted by: BU36 | September 8, 2007, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
When the USA kills civilians, invades, assesinates its in the name of freedom and democracy, its not terrorism.
At last count the USA aknowledged it has 32000 nuclear warheads but doesnt want anyone else having one, its like I have a gun in my neighborhood and as soon as I suspect some neighbor is in the process of adquiring one I go and bully him and threaten him that I will go to his house and kill him if he no stop and desist ALL in the name of peace.
Hypocrites.
Why is it so hard to get a transcript of osamas video?
Isn’this news worthy?
Dont they want us to know first hand what OBL says?
The transcript put up is unreadable!
Posted by: Claudio Hunter | September 8, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
We all choose to believe exactly what we want to. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support any position you choose. We either want to blame the conservatives or blame the liberals. Truth will be rediscovered when we are humbled as a nation. We came close on 9-11, but we have forgotten our unity.
Posted by: Glenn | September 8, 2007, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Wow a 2.5% flat tax, he is definitely not a Democrat, more of a Libertarian.
Posted by: JJ | September 8, 2007, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Glenn’s comments are worth repeating. Never more true words spoken. In all sincerity, Glenn should be a poet laureate.
“We all choose to believe exactly what we want to. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence to support any position you choose. We either want to blame the conservatives or blame the liberals. Truth will be rediscovered when we are humbled as a nation. We came close on 9-11, but we have forgotten our unity”
Posted by: Marshall | September 8, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Forget the beard. Is that nose real ?
Posted by: Buddy Sorrell | September 8, 2007, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
America is not a Democracy… it’s a Republic (representitive government)
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Up to now, I found it difficult to believe that Liberals were so ignorant. I need to thank all you Bush haters for reminding me of the obvious. Please feel free to move back to Canada.
Posted by: Unbeliever | September 8, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I wonder if we should have 2 president’s so that all of us could be represented
I’ll bet it would be a whole lot more representitive…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
have you ever wondered if someone is trying to get us into each others face to divide us and then conquer us
we should think clear and find a middle ground
Remember that a left wing and a right wing still need the middle to fly…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Here’s where we can agree. There is absolutely nothing romantic about war. Unfortunately, far too many people believed the romantic notion of war in 1992/1993. The fact that our forefathers did stand in the face of brutality to fight tyranny should be enough to inspire all citizens to hold strong the value of personal liberty.
The bottom line is that those of us who truly believe in what the Framers laid down must be prepared to defend it. These same men — pragmatic, practical and brilliant — warned us repeatedly to defend us against the power of political office. They advised us to reject any form of tyranny and to embrace individual liberty over further police power. Even those who subscribed to the federalist view recognized the danger of a rogue Executive and a complacent constituency.
I will defend against any encroachment on the American ideal and will never apologize for it. I will always believe that pre-emptive action is unjust and immoral. However, if a pre-emptive defense (nothing more than a policy of offense in reality) is a policy of the enemy, than one must be prepared to use the same.
The fact is, if in fact we do not face an attack on our personal liberties, or martial law, or tyrannical rule from within, than absolutely no one needs to fear anything of the kind.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Sounds like osama is running for Congress, we offer low taxes only at 2.5 %. NO new Taxes…hahaa…
Maybe he will run for president.
Posted by: ethan downs | September 8, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Edit: “believed the romantic notion of war in 1992/1993.”
“believed the romantic notion of war in 2002/2003″.
Posted by: Edit: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Wow, I never thought the day would come when OBL actually made MORE SENSE than the leader of this nation…
Posted by: bush-is-the-Devil | September 8, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
For those of you who BLINDLY choose the side of evil as that which is against what the USA has been doing are nothing but FOOLS. I have read this OBL statement, and thought it would enlighten me somewhat to why so many back gwb, but you know what? Most of what this OBL statement is getting across is right! I condemn his 9-11 tactic as evil as it was, but in spite of that evil, it certainly was the ticket to get this nation to finally take a hard look at itself and ask WHY it had come to a situation like 9-11.
Posted by: gw-is-the-devil | September 8, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Well put MADMOONMAN. Of course, you could replace ‘complacent’ with ‘weak.’ A constituency without arms are incapable of fending off government over-steps.
They (the voters, the constituency) become as useless as the voting machines they play with.
Why is it then, with all of the fear of this administration’s ‘nature’ liberals want to further limit our access to the power necessary to fight internal tyrrany? Why limit gun ownership?
Our founding fathers belief was that owning a firearm was a RESPONSIBILITY, and far beyond a simple ‘right.’
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
All that needs to happen is for the lights to go out and even America will thrown back into the 17th century
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Why aren’t we “America” on a crash course program to create a new system of energy
We have over 2 trillion barrels of oil under Colorado
We should build a big generator complex over it and put a CO2 filter on the smoke stacks and go 100% electric
Set the roads up with radio based energy transmitters recently developed at MIT and build EV1 like they’re going out of style
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Calm down George… you’re not thinking clearly…{:o))
Remember… be proactive not reactive!!!
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
OBL has been around since the 80′s and is trying to organize a global Islamic uprising to establish his brand of Islam. Well, guess who stands in his way? Yeah, it’s us, the current global power. Everything he does is designed to bring about his end game and you’re getting pulled right into his rhetoric. Are you so gullible that you believe his propaganda? It’s a two way street, and the fact that you tend to want to agree with him, rather than defend your own country tells everyone much about your character or lack thereof.
Also, we don’t make terrorists, they make themselves. We all have agency and we all choose our paths and become what we want to become. We’re all the sum of our choices. The fact that the Bush Administration has chosen to actually do something after the provocation of 9/11(something that the Clinton Administration refused to do, though provoked many times) does not mean we create terrorists. OBL suckers the Islamic world into thinking that we are the bad guys (and obviously many Americans as well) and those people then choose to join the army of radical Islam or become sympathetic to it like you.
Posted by: GBL | September 8, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
It really saddens me to read this column of comments and realise that Osama has already won a big battle in the US. He has turned the minds of many including most of the post-ers above against their own government. Pres Bush is not worthy to be compared with mass murderers just because he’s tried to untangle the terrible mess in the Middle East which threatens us. It’s Osama who’s the devil not George Bush.
Posted by: dave | September 8, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
The middle class is about to have a train wreck… we will be needing to stick together if we’re going to make it thought this crisis
Remeber the Dems and Repubs are really the party of the corporation… not US
We (the middle class) have no representives at all
MSM is involved in dividing us into warring camps to keep our attention off of the unfolding disaster until it’s too late
Terrorism is a red herring… you’re 700 times more likly to die from a doctor than a terrorist
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Before the White Man came to North America various Indian tribes fought each other over long standing grievances. When the Europeans came they used these old feuds to enlist one tribe’s aid to conquer another. A Shawnee chief named Tecumseh warned us that if we continued to fight among ourselves the whites would destroy us. He was right. …. Now I see modern Americans, Democrats and Republicans too busy fighting each other to notice that our true enemy is laughing as we destroy each other. Instead of learning from history we continue to repeat it. Democrats and Republicans will destroy America if they don’t learn from history and come together as a nation to fight a war we must win, or die. So please, continue your usual rhetoric. Support your party as long as they attack the other. Do not encourage your elected leaders to work together. Point the finger as much as possible. …. I’m sure Bin Laden is grateful.
Posted by: Royce | September 8, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
And the left is playing along. What is the end game if they succeed leftwingers? Are you going to get tough on them someday? I seriously doubt it.
Posted by: djs | September 8, 2007, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I’d like to draw attention to two consecutive comments on this board.
(3:53:02 PM) Read the transcript, conservatives – OBL says his interests are the same as the neo-conservatives. Why are you voting for the party that shares the same goals as the terrorists?
(3:53:22 PM) I fail to see the difference between the talking points of Bin Laden and the talking points of the American Democratic Party. It’s as if they are reading the same play book.
…You see my point? People just read into this whatever they want. People’s POLITICAL PREJUDICES are standing in the way of meaningful, democratic debate on this issues.
Holy crap, if Americans can’t even talk to each other anymore, things are even worse than they seem…
Posted by: Pafko | September 8, 2007, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Just in case you don’t understand what I’m taling about…
earlier I wrote:
………………..
If you’re following the market closely you will not that there is a run on derivatives, CDOs. CLOs etc. and the BIS estimates that it amounts to over $600 trillion (over 10x the GDP of the world)
……………….
Imagine when those chickens come home to roost…{:o(
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
…it’s sad to think I may need to call on your help in a time of trouble
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Remember that $600 trillion is 50 times more than the total US economy ($12t)
Enough politics!!! let’s talk about the economy and what is in store for the “Middle Class” over the next 18 months
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
If you guys really wanted to get OBL all you would need to do is put out a “Mob” hit… a done deal
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Another Hollywood political commercial made by Michael Moore, funded by Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: dave | September 8, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Give credit where it’s due. Republicans have fought this war against us with tenacity and determination with very scant support from the left.
The left has made this a war between us. Despite Republican moderation during Clinton’s presidency, these people are so desperate for office they will attack Bush for anything. ANYTHING.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
THE REAL TERRORIST ARE THE CONGRESS, SENATE, HOUSE AND BUSH!
Posted by: me | September 8, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
I have not heard anything from the Democratic Party regarding UBL’s video. They must be hunkered down in their private under ground bunkers planning on how the can say the same things that UBL speaks of an still not seem to be on the enemies side.
Let me give them a head start with thier talking points.
1. Bush Lied, people died
2. Taxes good, you with money bad.
3. Tell a lie long enough, it can be our truth
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Remember that $600 trillion is 12 times more than the total world economy ($50t)
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Hey “Ed”
You need to be more specific… you mean that you’re a “Republican Version 2.0
They don’t like the middle class and are doing everything possible to destroy us… we need some REAL conservatives to take back the party and get us on the path to renewal and unity… I want my party back
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Perhaps Norman Hsu, help donate a little extra money away from Hillary to get the UBL tape finished up early.
It was supposed to go to a website in Syria but accidentially got on an Amtrak train to NY by accident.
That is at least my conspiracy theory, of course I used liberal logic. And if you doubt me I will put my fingers in my ears and yell LaLaLaLaLaLa, until I either passout or you have better things to do.
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
In my opinion many of the bloggers claiming to be Republicans are not!!!
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Very Funny “kim clift RN” but if it’s like the S&L back in the 80′s it’ll be you and me that foots the bill…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
The economy is fine, and the middle class is booming. Finally we are shedding inflated ‘low skilled’ jobs from the industrial age and moving into the information age.
Thank Allah for the free market, eh?
The largest threat to us, internally, is the mountain of debt our consumers accept for later in exchange for the cell phones/cars/and gadgets of today.
Don’t buy a house you can’t afford. Don’t spend money you don’t have. Save as much as you can by enjoying what you have.
Corporations aren’t the enemy- individual greed is.
And a one world order, brought through representative government is not a bad thing. In fact it would be the end of tyrrany and villainous corruption.
Hopefully it will be the United States bringing it to fruition.
“Do something. If it doesn’t work do something else. But for God’s sake do SOMETHING.”
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
If all you guys are going to is argue politics while the middle class burns down then I think I’ll take a long trip to th south pacific…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
The problem is not the Reublican V1.1 or 2.0 it is the Democrat 0.98. They are not even out of beta yet.
They have been in Beta for over 40 years, no one to fix any bugs. Only a larger force to point somewhere else and say the problem is with the 3rd party.
Until Democrat 0.98 can be GA with 1.0 this country can never be as one, to many bugs in the machine.
Sorry, for the Software analogy.
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
It would be nice if there was a party for the “Middle Class”…{:o)
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
This stuff has Southpark written all over it.
Posted by: Vox Hadrian | September 8, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I feel very under represented…{:o(
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Ed, you do have some points but a representative world govenment. It will not work as it barely works here in a country of 350 million.
Our govenment cannot even keep the states inline. Example San Francisco have violated the law several times, same sex marriage, ID cards for illegals. I am not argueing for or against here just that there is an out of control state. How would this change on a world scale, it would be anarchy.
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Hahahahahahaha… that was good…{:o))
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
You all are completely missing this. This was merely a trailer for Hollywoods next Academy Award winning film. Brian De Palma and Michael Moore…lets see you make a movie that goes deep undercover into radical mosques to show how sick and twisted radical islam is. You make movies only to show contempt for the country you live in. You don’t speak out about true injustice, 1. because you are mentally disordered, 2. if you did, you’d end up like Theo van Gogh. I don’t remember anyone in Hollywood speeking up for Theo’s artistic rights as a filmmaker, but bashing the religious right and those with good intentions is easier. The religious right won’t kill you!!
Posted by: Hollywood | September 8, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Ed, I salute you. I did not get my epiphany until later in life so went through a little more hardship. But, I will not bore everyone with my details.
I for so long felt entitled and could not understand why the govenment was not helping more.
Then as you I woke up and took over my life. As I did I could see the truth about our politicians.
As I will have to work a little longer than you due to my late awaking but will still be well off when I do.
As You I did not sit around waiting for the government to give me things and sacraficed and took some chances. Rather than waiting for this country to be become a nanny state like so many would like.
Please as Ed says, do something.
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Thank you for your answer… my life has taken a similar course (2 kids B&G)
I just feel that our future is starting to dimm and I want to speak up because we need to recognize that the economy is not looking very good and we need to be proactive to mitigate the disaster that is unfolding now
Posted by: truth_power | September 8, 2007, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Bingo Bango-
I agree it wouldn’t be manageable, but management is illusory at any rate.
I would hope that a one world government could exist while allowing for wide latitude in culture/tradition.
As for rogues, well, I guess I am more in line with the federalists- The tenth amendment reserves power to the states not granted inherently to the federal government through the constitution.
The largest obstacle would be an independent court system with far reaching authority that still managed to keep checks and balances.
Overall I view the constitution as more than one government’s edict to it’s people, but more as a universal series of doctrines that all should embrace.
Whether they will embrace it, though? The ramifications make my brain hurt.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
please write-in Nader in 2008!
(is he still alive?)
love this forum, wow, so many opinions; wonder what the facts are.
Posted by: kc geesee | September 8, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
UBL sounds an awful lot like a typical Democrat……….except for the fact that he seems to have no problem with tax cuts…
Posted by: Denny | September 8, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
This is where Democats work their best they make statement continuously until they believe them and then they call them facts. When anyone else with common sense and see the same data and come to a completly different conclusion. In this is case those that follow blindly will spew whatever is told of them to say.
Take the information that you get from more than one source, mull it over in you mind. See what makes sense and then follow, even if you may be wrong you will be true to yourself
Posted by: BingoBango | September 8, 2007, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
But, are UBL’s tax of 2.5 per household or per person in the household.
How are we to make a intelligent decision without all the facts, dang it.
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Thanks for your salute! I do hope I didn’t bore anyone, I simply wanted more people to see that we have ALL THE POWER, and I truly hate to see others willing to give it away. There is more hope than despair in the world today, and when despair rises up hope will only shine more brightly.
Americans have so much that we take for granted. We have much more than most of the world, and it seems we spend a great deal of time ignoring what is in favor of what we would want.
Posted by: Ed | September 8, 2007, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Ed, I did not mean to say you bored anyone at all, just that I can get long winded and probably would put most to sleep. Anyway, you sound like a great parent, keep up the good work.
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
WWII was ended by dropping a couple of nuclear bombs. Do the same to Iran and the world can start to move forward again. I actually hope you idiot liberals with your heads in the sand get Hillary elected. Then, after we are attacked again, you may finally understand what we are dealing with. However, I doubt you’ll ever get it.
Posted by: wayne | September 8, 2007, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Not to completly disagree with you “wayne” but the war in the pacific was ended with the bombs. The war in Europe was won but just opening up a giant can of whoop ass.
But, even if Hillary gets elected and we are attacked the liberals will try to say it is Bush’s fault.
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Osama’s message: 1) he dispises George Bush 2) adamantly against the war in Iraq 3) adamantly against our presence in Afghanistan 4) promotes global warming fear 5) blames our current administration regarding interest-related debts and real estate mortgages 6) opposes democracy in favor of a socialist type government……………
What is he?? He’s a DEMOCRAT!!…….There’s only one thing that Osama and Republicans can agree on. They both want lower taxes.
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2007, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Conservatives rock! They are the ones who got us to where we are and they are the soldiers, policemen, and firefighters of today. They are willing to sacrifice so the rest of you imbeciles can drink your coffee and ponder things.
Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2007, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Nuclear??? You can’t hug your children with nuclear arms! War is NEVER the answer and we need to stop the senseless genicide we are committing! Democracy has failed, please join our cause! We can end our planet’s suffering and help the Islamic people instead of murdering them with our thugs in uniform. UBL is right!!!
Posted by: Sunrise Riverbed | September 8, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
“Sunrise Riverbed”, it is good to hear that they allow internet access in the instituion. Please keep up on your medication you are definetly getting better
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Hey look:
There are a million OBL’s out there. They will not stop until we make it cost prohibitive for them to attack our borders. Get the picture right.
Liberal thougt patterns would have us apologetic and sorry for 9/11. Especially if you are Patty Murray, Barbara Boxley, or Harry Reid.
That’s why I moved to California to hide in weeks at a certain latitude and longitude so that I can see em coming.
Posted by: jc | September 8, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
“Nuclear??? You can’t hug your children with nuclear arms! War is NEVER the answer and we need to stop the senseless genicide we are committing! Democracy has failed, please join our cause! We can end our planet’s suffering and help the Islamic people instead of murdering them with our thugs in uniform. UBL is right!!!”
The stench of this coward is overwhelming
Posted by: Cellenin | September 8, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Bingo, Gaia is taking care of me, who is looking out for you? I am not worried about your words, I applaud them. The answer is not the dems of repubs, it is you and me. We can strike a blow for our planet and hit back against the people raping our dear, sweet country. I will meditate on UBL’s truthisms and how we can proceed.
Posted by: Sunrise Riverbed | September 8, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
You can’t meditate if your dead Sunrise, so that’s why you need to fight. What don’t you liberals get about them wanting to kill you? They don’t negotiate. They just kill; you, your kids, your parents, who ever they can. Try rooting for America for a change you liberal scumbag! Tammy Bruce says this on her page. She was a liberal who saw the light and turned conservative.
Posted by: Kris | September 8, 2007, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
OBL may think he is wise….but it is written….somewhere….
“He taketh the wise in their own craftiness”
Posted by: we0905 | September 8, 2007, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Osama bin Laden is a symbol. He inspired
19 followers to kill three thousand Americans and others. It’s shameful the way we spend so much time discussing him.
Posted by: Charles Glasgow | September 8, 2007, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
Congratulations, LIBS….your new comrade ‘ol OBL is now your new General in charge!! Wow, would Hillary, Barack or John want to give him a Silver Star for bravery?? For me, I’m locked and loaded and ready to kick it into automatic!! Got my M-16, IEDs and other arsenal ready to take on whatever comes my way. Be afraid…be very afraid…of true patriotic Americans!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Wow… the rhetoric is flying like the political fur we have come to know and love since 2000. Well, I can’t let this go without getting in on the fun :)
Does it seem strange to anyone else that the man who masterminded knocking down some pretty important real estate in the US, all the while killing US citizens on our own soil WANTS the left in power and chastises them for not sticking to their pacifist ways?
Now why do we think he would want this? When the ACLU and their cohorts want to keep our borders open wider than hookers in Las Vegas, the left promotes the kind of lifestyle that Mr. OBL despises (and would give him more of an excuse to feel good about killing us here and overseas), he has the opportunity and the motive to kill us all and have an argument to present on the world stage as to why it is justified.
Posted by: mixjuan | September 8, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
“Charles”, as it would be great not to have to speak the name of the Devil’s prodigy.
We are at a time where we cannot put our heads in the sand and pretend nothing has occured.
Even if he where elimiated it would not go away until “Islamist” are gone. I did not say muslims who believe in Islam only those that pervert their religion.
I take it this way talking about him keeps us from underestimating him or his followers. Never underestimate your enemy whether it is afar or within our ranks.
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
I agree with Bingo Bongo that Jehova is the only true God. He alone is worthy.
Posted by: Omar Sherrif | September 8, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Even though in Vietnam the VietCong took a ass kicking during the Tet offensive the Grand liberal of them all came on TV to say the War was lost. When the reality on the ground was quite different.
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
hey ED -
if the USA brings “to fruition” a one world order, evil and tyranny end? how is this? actually it would breed it as anyone with a brain would rebel against the oppresive order. hmmm…who would be the evil ones then, oppressed or oppressors? where is the freedom in that?? wake up you stupid fools! i love how all the “right wingers” that complain and want to “fight for freedom” don’t even live remotely near somewhere that would even be considered a terrorist target….
Posted by: satan in NYC | September 8, 2007, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
That is funny, these guys are have prehistoric minds…
Posted by: Satellite Girl | September 8, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Does the 2% tax rate include both federal and state taxes ? Is this the corporate rate also ? Is there also a death tax ?
Posted by: Joe | September 8, 2007, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
I heard that Hillary is planning to leave Big Bill and hook up with ‘ol OBL! Would that make OBL the First Jihadist by association? Perhaps ABC needs to investigate before the nuptials are planned. Where are you ABC news?
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I just read the whole transcript of Bin Laden’s speech. Looks like he cut’n'pasted the whole thing off the Democratic Party website. Whose side are you on America??
Posted by: inspector9 | September 8, 2007, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Osama has been too intimate with too many anamials.
Posted by: Walter | September 8, 2007, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Obama or Osama??
Posted by: inspector9 | September 8, 2007, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Poor guy. Looks like he went a little heavy on the “Just for JiHadists” beard dye. What color is the sky on the planet where you live?
Posted by: Scott | September 8, 2007, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Sounds like Liberal speak to me. Did I hear Michael Moore yelling “CUT!” in the background?
Posted by: bart | September 8, 2007, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Nevertheless, Bush and Cheney need to be IMPEACHED
Posted by: Al | September 8, 2007, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Convservative sux
Posted by: Al | September 8, 2007, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
I can’t believe all the nut cases and conspiracy kooks that from this country that have posted to this story. Take off the tin foil hats and pay attention to what Bin Laden is saying. If you look at the two ways out of this war he proposes, I don’t think many of you would want to go along with either way. We will and must win this war, the only question will it be the next couple of years or 50 years from now?
Posted by: Shawn | September 8, 2007, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Sounds like Osama Bin Laden and the Democratic party are on the same side of the coo coo coin.
Posted by: Asparagus Tip | September 8, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
go back to sleep like the rest of the liberals
Posted by: BingoBongo | September 8, 2007, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Every time I hear Neo-conservative it reminds me why I’m not a democrat. Common sense.
Posted by: Andrew | September 8, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
2.5% vs 38% Federal Tax is going to get somebody’s attention…..
Posted by: roger | September 8, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Osama has really done a number on some of you left wing posters…..you’ve all become his cheerleaders and he is using you all to attack our President (who, by the way, has managed to prevent another 911….I’d call that a good thing). A house divided against itself cannot stand. I’m not immortalizing Bush, or saying he is perfect, but why don’t you all stop your whining and REALLY support our troops by supporting our President. I don’t mean just fall over and agree if it goes against your conscience, but stop bashing the man…it only hurts our country.
Scott
Posted by: Scott | September 8, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Just based on the 2.5% tax proposal alone, a Bin Laden/Chomsky ticket in the next election would draw lots of votes away from both the Dems and Republicans. California and New York tax rates are 9.3% and 7.7%.
Posted by: roger | September 8, 2007, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
It seems that the head of the Democrats has released another video again. Watch the Libs start doing everything he wants. And for all of the rest of the US haters who think that this all started because of Bush, remember that they have been wanting us dead waaaaaaay before Bush was elected….TWICE!!!
Posted by: kevin dunham | September 8, 2007, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Bin Laden: “Democrats no good; I want lower taxes ….” Sounds like a Republican to me. I’m sure he’s against gay marriage also.
Posted by: mdmark345 | September 8, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
2.5% vs 38% Federal Tax is going to get somebody’s attention…
It sure got mine. Why can’t we negotiate something here? Osama for NJ governor and he disbands al Qaeda, kills the sales & corp taxes and cuts property taxes 80%. All men have to grow a beard for a month. Companies will be fighting to relocate here. No burkhas though, Osama!!
Can’t be any worse than the schmuck dork we got now, Corzine.
Posted by: Jerry | September 8, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
This is a “bloodbath”, if American troops leave it can’t get any worse. Bring our Boys home!!!
Support the troops, bring them home!!!
Posted by: The REAL NEWS Man | September 8, 2007, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
You have to ask yourself………if Bin Laden could vote in the upcoming elections, which democrat would he vote for? Then ask yourself……..why does the “world’s most wanted terrorist” want the same person that I do for president?
Posted by: Dave B | September 8, 2007, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Question for you bush-haters out there: How does it feel when your ideology is shared by OBL? How does it feel to be in his camp? Doesn’t this give you just the slightest pause to consider your position?
Posted by: Paul | September 8, 2007, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
Don’t pay attention to the marionette strings or the Bush behind the curtain!
Posted by: Bill Hicks | September 8, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
“To conclude,” bin Laden says, “I invite you to embrace Islam.”
Well, isn’t that speee-cial????!
There is no way that I am ever going to “embrace” a barbaric, 7th century deception that hasn’t given the world SQUAT in the last 1300 years except for misery for it’s adherents, some of the worst poverty in the entire known world, and absolutely nothing else except for trouble in CAPITAL LETTERS besides that!
Posted by: Pam | September 8, 2007, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Before the White Man came to North America various Indian tribes fought each other over long standing grievances. When the Europeans came they used these old feuds to enlist one tribe’s aid to conquer another. A Shawnee chief named Tecumseh warned us that if we continued to fight among ourselves the whites would destroy us. He was right.
Now I see modern Americans, Democrats and Republicans too busy fighting each other to notice that our true enemy is laughing as we destroy each other. Instead of learning from history we continue to repeat it. Democrats and Republicans will destroy America if they don’t learn from history and come together as a nation to fight a war we must win, or die. So please, continue your usual rhetoric. Support your party as long as they attack the other. Do not encourage your elected leaders to work together. Point the finger as much as possible. …. I’m sure Bin Laden is grateful.
Posted by: Royce | September 8, 2007, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Thank you Royce – the most truthful comment on here. Democracy will not work unless we are united. While everyone bashes Bush and eachother’s parties our enemy is banking in on our weakness. Its absurd that we have shed so much blood for our freedom and are dumb enough to throw it away for political party gain!
Posted by: Odette | September 8, 2007, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“Bin Laden speaks some truth: “you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven’t made a move worth mentioning.” What a shocker. And let’s not forget why he’s still here…9/11 was the culmination of plans made during the previous 8 yrs. – WTC 1993. Hillary is the answer, no doubt.
Kev, correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought Hillary was part of the Democratic Party that “hasn’t made a move worth mentioning”. I also thought Hillary was a part of the do nothing Senate, if my memory serves me correctly. Wasn’t Hillary’s husband the one who didn’t anything to stop Al Queda in the 8 years before 9/11? Do you honestly think Hillary is going to change the status quo? If you honestly think Hillary Clinton is going to change the status quo in this country,then you’re more delusional than Osama Bin Laden!
Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2007, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
It doesn’t matter at this point who started what. We could go back to Truman supporting the birth of Israel or even back to FDR. It doesn’t matter. Should’ve, could’ve, would’ve don’t matter now. We are at war now. No one can change yesterday but we can change tomorrow. Bin Laden said that either we could surrender or die. Your choice. As long as Democrats and Republicans just point the finger and argue we may as well wave the white flag. Time for people to quit being Democrat and Republican for a while and be AMERICAN for a change. … Are there any Americans left out there?
Posted by: Royce | September 8, 2007, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Yep , here is an American. I could care less that some dying tyrant who hates us doesn’t like us now. Good!! Check in my book – our soldiers are doing their job!!
Posted by: Odette | September 8, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
This clown’s video, along with the one he released right before the last Presidential election should, but doesn’t, shame left-wing Americans.
Both videos are a laundry list of liberal talking-points. Word for bloody word.
Posted by: Publius | September 8, 2007, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
This whole comments section illustrates how utterly stupid and impressionable mainstream Americans really are, i.e., neo-con this and neo-con that, let’s all just get along, the U.S. is hated by the world, it’s all Bush’s fault, etc., etc.
The United States is the greatest country on Earth. If you give people freedom to choose and govern themselves, you end up with the most powerful country on the planet, that rose to the apex of the world stage in less than 300 years. Asia, Europe and the Middle East have been striving for this for thousands of years. Also, you end up with a country that leads the world in charity and aid (even to rogue states), a country that FEEDS the world, a country that stands up for what’s right. Our country defends the defenseless. A country that people would risk their lives to enter illegally. A country are free to be as stupid and clueless as they choose.
Posted by: clayton | September 8, 2007, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
what color alert are we on now with the latest obl video? Whoever came up with that crap deserves a medal- orange yellow blue or green
nobody understands what it means. –Got to love our leadership in Washington—just imagine what they could do with another few bizillion tax dollars
Posted by: badjoao | September 8, 2007, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Wake up people!! He has been teaching children in his own country to hate before they can even get out of diapers!! Now, the youth of this country is believing him too. He understands that they are the future and is trying to rule the world, ruin the US, freedom and democracy, thru them.
I can’t believe people are so gullible and naive!! Stop supporting Bin Laden propoganda and defend your own country.
Posted by: nottricked | September 8, 2007, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
What is it with you people and the conspiracy theories? I’m embarrassed for you.
OBL/UBL loves Chomsky! That’s awesome, must be my birthday
Posted by: cpt winkie | September 8, 2007, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
looks like about 80% of you people are out of your mind. look out bush is the devil….the goverment controls are minds….they have a robot that looks like obl and use it to sway opinion..
Posted by: vivaman | September 8, 2007, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
Note to chris: Here’s the ‘struggle’ as you call it and not the world’s poppy plants…..Ssssshhhhhhssss, people, ssssshhhhhsssss…….what is that I hear in the background? It’s January, 2009, and there’s an inaugural underway! But wait, the sounds….materials unfolding, books being handed out and on stage….I can’t really see but it looks like either Hillary, Barack or John….but wait! I see a gazillion people putting their prayer carpets on the ground, rustling through their Korans, bowing down on the carpets and facing East!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Classic reactions from the gullible idiots out there. “OOoohhhhhh look at the comments! They sound just like all those folks who oppose our great leader GW Bush! The Democrats and Libertarians are all aligned with bin Laden! The Terrorists want the Democrats to win!”
This transcript was provided by the White House, without the actual video, without confirmation. It just happens to hit all the areas where Bush has been repeatedly criticized by Democrats and true conservatives alike. How remarkably convenient that bin Laden would use terms that he has never spoken before — such as “Neo-conservative”, and happens to sound more like a paid political strategist than an Islamic cleric.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
OBL is right about one thing – we do have oppressive taxation in this country and in the west in general. Look at what Dubai (a Muslim country) is doing with their “free zones” (no taxes). Have you seen the Palm islands and the World islands?
And guess where more and more of western capital is being invested.
Here the republicans are spending our childrens’ taxes TODAY! And the democrats’ answer is more TAXES!
Posted by: Roboto | September 8, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Dems you guys are in big trouble with this video. Lets see you get out of this one. We finally know who is writing your talking points.
Posted by: Jim | September 8, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
To repeat: BLIND LIBS = OBL LOVERS! No doubt about it folks!!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 8, 2007, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
It’s uncanny how Osama’s comments mirror the Liberal talking points in American politics. I am appalled at the failure of the MSM to point this out.
In fact this specific news report glosses over details that make this comparison even more obvious.
I no longer can even dare believe that the main stream media and prominent Liberal politicians have the welfare and wellbeing of the American public in mind.
Posted by: Tom, Vancouver WA | September 8, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Sounds like he’s running for the President as a Democrat. He says the exact same thing.
Posted by: Steve | September 8, 2007, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Dear Americans
George W Bush has had to make hard choices at times and did what he thought was right no matter how unpopular, even though he has made mistakes, so has all the other presidents. Hillary Clinton, although I disagree with much of what she believes, She is a patriot who also wants whats best for our country. Please fellow Americans, stop putting democrats and republicans in the same boat with our enemies. OBL and his organization wants us all dead, but they are losing. I know this because that is what Zarqawi wrote before he was killed in Iraq. Whether we pull out of Iraq or stay, we win because democracy is there to stay, but it will free up AQ to bring the fight to the US. Have you noticed, no major attacks on US soil, thats because they are busy sending their people to Iraq to get slaughtered. They will continue to do so because democracy in Iraq is an affront to AQ. Lets always remember who the enemy is.
Posted by: csh | September 8, 2007, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Steve commented: “Sounds like he’s running for the President as a Democrat. He says the exact same thing.”
No, it sounds like you believe that this “transcript” is legitimate, and that these words were actually spoken by bin Laden. Get back to me when you have actual video of bin Laden , translated by an independent source, showing the same statements.
Yet, I do not expect you to put any stock in actual, tangible, verifiable evidence. The Bush Brigade values faith in the leader far more than real evidence.
After reading the litany of comments here from those who blindly accept the Word from Bush, I am more convinced than ever that this nation is in its last days.
Posted by: MadManMoon | September 8, 2007, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
just another fake tape to scare us all into believing that Osama is still a threat if he ever was…he is a CIA trained agent for fric sakes…he is being kept alive by the US government just to feed us this garbage…
Posted by: this tape is another fake | September 8, 2007, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
If Osama wants proof that the American democratic process is flailing helplessly, he need only look at this forum. Our country is divided into two neat camps, the left and the right, and each exists only to defy the other.
We’re spending so much time trying to villainize our political polar opposites that we lose sight of truth.
Legitimate or not, this tape goes to show that there are people out there who hate us. We’ve got to arm up against them (literally or metaphorically). The mere fact that we can openly discuss our country’s leaders like this, the fact that I can say that George Bush makes some decisions that truly defy explaination, is at stake.
Compassion is both our greatest virtue and our greatest weakness. This is an enemy that will not go away without being forcibly removed. As we sit in the comfort of our own homes, as Congress sits in the comfort of their own government subsidized party lounges tacking ham onto war bills, people are dying. We’re only at a stalemate because we can’t make a decision to save our lives. (Actually, no. OUR lives aren’t at risk. You are very safe from OBL there at your computer desk.) Meanwhile, the soldiers both sides of this self-destructive two party system claim to support, are stranded in the middle of a bloodstained wasteland, drowning in red tape.
We need to understand that a LOT of people are going to die. We have three options:
1. Pull out. A lot of Iraqis will die, but the blood isn’t really on our hands… kinda.
2. Refuel the invasion. A lot of insurgents will die, and taxes will spike. Oh, and the GOP will joing the ranks of the Whigs and the Bull Moose Party in that big subsidized party lounge in the sky.
3. Continue with the status quo. Americans die by the bushel, as do Iraqis. Possibly for a few decades. Aside from that, no change.
I’d go with number two, personally.
Oh, and a note for the people saying “well, Osama’s rhetoric mirrors YOUR party’s!”
No. It doesn’t.
He’s not a liberal. He just hates the GOP, almost as MUCH as the liberals. And, let’s face it, he has a right. They kinda screwed him over. A Democratic persident during 9/11 would not have struck back as hard as Bush. The left and right just have different priorities. In late ’01 the Bush administration put social services on the back burner, and kinda forgot it there, until now it’s… burnt. Wow, that metaphor went too far.
And he’s not a member of the GOP. Sure, he’s a religious conservative, but to say all religious conservatives are the same is… well, ignorant. Hell, Hitler was one, and he was basically Socialist. That’s a fairly left-wing platform, no? Islam, in all honesty, is a great religion. However, like all great things, theres always someone who ruins it for everyone. Osama is one of those guys.
I’m also sick of the people rationalizing the mad butchering of people who just happen to agree with them politically. Here I will say simply this: Che.
It’s true there aren’t a lot of left-libertarian terrorist organizations, so I can’t say I’ve ever been forced to call one of my own number a murdering nut-job. (We libertarians choose to irritate this world in the more peaceful manner of being pretentious and whining a lot. What, you thought I didn’t notice?)
So, as the left does for Che and Stalin, I pray the right doesn’t do (albeit to a lesser extent) for this current Iraq war. Please admit that we have done some terrible things. And, to the left, please admit that some good has and will come of this bloodshed.
Whew.
Posted by: JP | September 9, 2007, 12:08 am 12:08 am
2.5% taxes? Good God, he’s a Republican!
Posted by: atticus | September 9, 2007, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Sunrise-
Since the beginning of time war and conflict have defined our species. Sometimes for ill, but always there.
Of course, just and reasonable people abhor war. But ignoring threats is not the answer, and never has been. War will rear in spite of us.
Thankfully never because of us.
And yes, you were there in 39′ clamoring that “Hitler was contained. War should be avoided.” It is the mantra of peaceniks across the globe. “It’s not our place to defend our allies.” Apparently those treaties and such things can’t earn your loyalty, huh? Especially when the chips are down and you might have to sacrifice a bit.
Of course, you were wrong then, and you are wrong now. War was the only language, and still manages to cross those barriers of communication, to bring a message of justice when force is wrought by the righteous.
Remember- In spite of us. Not because of us.
And muslims will receive our aid and comfort when they stand up and denounce these lunatics, and chase them from their lands.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 12:38 am 12:38 am
Before the White Man came to North America various Indian tribes fought each other over long standing grievances. When the Europeans came they used these old feuds to enlist one tribe’s aid to conquer another. A Shawnee chief named Tecumseh warned us that if we continued to fight among ourselves the whites would destroy us. He was right.
Now I see modern Americans, Democrats and Republicans too busy fighting each other to notice that our true enemy is laughing as we destroy each other. Instead of learning from history we continue to repeat it. Democrats and Republicans will destroy America if they don’t learn from history and come together as a nation to fight a war we must win, or die. So please, continue your usual rhetoric. Support your party as long as they attack the other. Do not encourage your elected leaders to work together. Point the finger as much as possible. …. I’m sure Bin Laden is grateful.
Posted by: Royce | September 9, 2007, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Royce,
I agree with you in spirit. Unity would be nice.
However, republicans aren’t asking for across the board acceptance. We should be capable of disagreeing with each other over domestic issues that divide us. Everything from abortion to tax rates are open to debate.
All americans should come to the table to fight a common threat. Many intellectuals have wondered about the day when our common enemies can unite us, and warring internal factions are made whole.
This is the time, and sadly liberals have used this opportunity to point fingers, and hurl labels. Desperation for the offices they seek is almost palpable.
We can implore though, and beg sincerely for them to stand with justice, and self-defense. I do this now.
Regardless of your politcs, genders, ethnicity or religious background it is time to put this behind us and rally to our flag- a flag your anscestors have spilled blood to uphold, and let blood to preserve.
Freedom. Justice. Equality. They are at stake, and under attack. They are threatened by people so heartless that they would cook the children of families failing to adhere to their extreme views. They would target, for no other purpose beside ‘sensationalism and ‘casualty counts,’ your wives and mothers, children and siblings.
They target them, and you. Waxing philosophically over the subject won’t protect you from a cruel and abject death.
We can fight over our domestic diputes AND wage war against this insanity all at once. In fact- we are the ONLY nation on this planet capable of doing it all.
UNCLE SAM NEEDS YOU!
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Bin Laden is Dead and Still is DEAD.
Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden’s Death
and Funeral 10 days ago
Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
Posted by: L | September 9, 2007, 1:31 am 1:31 am
He’s not crazy at all. He’s very intelligent. What do you expect the man to say? We are at war with Islam. Pretty simple.
Posted by: D. Audette | September 9, 2007, 1:41 am 1:41 am
This whole video reeks. The whole way it was introduced by the media stinks. I am not convinced it is him. The eagerness with which Chertoff affirmed it relative to its complete release is alarming. Am I alone here? Doesnt look that way. This thing doesnt pass the smell test.
If this is a republican conspiracy ( i wonder) then kudos to them because it makes the democrats looks ridiculous and it leaves the impression that Osama is dead ( to those of us thinking) but to the ignorant masses Osama is still alive and the repubs are right. Brilliant if properly sprinkled to the public.
Dont get me wrong, personally all for fighting Islamic creep wherever we can. And Im glad Osama is dead. Regardless osama assured more muslim deaths than his 9/11 attack killed in infidels. Thats his legacy……………………………forever
Posted by: Derek | September 9, 2007, 1:53 am 1:53 am
Seriously folks, my husband being unemployed for a year and us trying to make ends meet is scarier than this creep. Americans and our fabulous leaders should wake up and smell the coffee – it won’t matter if there are terrorist from other countries wanting to come here and blow us up if we don’t have jobs, money and safety in our own backyards. We had a heat wave here in California last week and people died because they could not afford air con in their homes… guess it really wouldn’t have mattered if terrorists walked into their home with bombs strapped to their bodies and blew the whole place up – probably would have been quicker!
Posted by: Laura | September 9, 2007, 1:56 am 1:56 am
You have to watch the movie obsession if you want to really understand what bin laden and terrorism is all about
Posted by: crazyguy | September 9, 2007, 2:18 am 2:18 am
this place is starting to blow. We need another revolution. someone start making tie dye t-shirts and mass producing berkenstocks, democracy is a beautiful thing, too bad we changed to a capitalist society long ago. We ALL care about the $, not the lives of the people in this country. its really sad that our leaders do the same things we yell at our kids for doing. Be adults and stop killing eachother over differences. For all these ultra conservatives ask yourself this…WWJD?
Posted by: tony | September 9, 2007, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Oh look, dubya’s tanking in the polls and in Iraq.. and here’s Osama, just in time to give him a little boost.
Frankly, our idiot President needs Osama Bin Laden worse than he needs anyone in the world today.
He’d be nothing but a washed up, single term President if not for good ‘ole Osama and 9/11.
Posted by: Jhoffa_ | September 9, 2007, 2:41 am 2:41 am
US army is not leaving Irak but aims on permanent bases in the middle east and pretty soon i am sure they will be marching into Iran, prolly after another fals flag disaster like 911, google on NWO and PNAC.
Posted by: knut | September 9, 2007, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Bin Laden is dead.
He’s been dead for years.
Posted by: Biff | September 9, 2007, 4:08 am 4:08 am
A small but telling slice of humanity here on this blog. And all i can say is…
Great. Wonderful. We’ve learned so much
and have come so far.
i think i liked being homeless better.
At least they were a much nicer and insightful group of people. And it didn’t matter what you believed or what color you were. They know religion is b.s. just like power and money.
Posted by: chris | September 9, 2007, 4:34 am 4:34 am
Question: Do you know why we haven’t been attacked again by BL and his scumbag cronies?
Answer: Because the American people would demand retaliation and in the upcoming elections vote in someone who WOULD retaliate. They are just waiting for some wimpy left-wing commie babe, (or whomever) to get in office , and then, WATCH OUT!
(Incidentally, the ones who will run for protection and cry their eyes out for the gov’t and those “awful Abu Graib torturers (that”s OUR brave military to those in “LEFT field”) to save them are those who are doing their best to undermine our actions in Iraq. I can hear them now — “Boo Hoo, please save us”) . Does that sound like Hollywood the day after 9/11? How quickly we forget!
Posted by: CeeGee | September 9, 2007, 5:07 am 5:07 am
I understand the purpose for going to war. I had just finished getting my children off to school and was enjoying my first moment of peace by drinking a cup of coffee and watching the Today show. When I turned the set on…there were helicopters flying around the World Trade Center…one of them (the towers) had a lot of smoke streaming from it…and just then (and I was right at the TV Set) I saw a huge plane flying toward the other tower. I thought…this can’t be happening! Oh My God…everybody is there and then the plane hit the building and people were flying out of it…as I watched the horror unfold…the collapse of the towers…the people jumping…I knew terrorists had done this. This is why we went to war. We went for the murdered people…we went to get Bin Laden and make him pay for what he done.
The truth is that everyone has failed those poor innocent victims and we have failed our brave soldiers who are over there fighting without understanding.
Our government is like any other government, led by greed, ignorance, and the bottom line. America is heading headlong into bankruptcy (as is much of the middle class america who carry the bulk of the financial burden of america)because of the greed and ignorance. But we elected those people into office. So maybe us Americans need to stop complaining and do something about the chaos.
Because as long as we are passing blame and not getting the job done, the longer our brave men and women will be over there dying.
I challenge the media, because we are led as a people through the media, to start playing hard ball and ask where is Bin Laden. For every government official that you meet ask this question, “What have you done today Sir/Ma’am, to find Bin Laden?”
“What can report to the families of the murdered, so that they will know their loved one did not die in vane?”
Posted by: remember? | September 9, 2007, 5:21 am 5:21 am
Laura, …….. The unemployment rate was only slightly lower during 1999-2001, then you have to go back to 1969 to find a lower rate. Our economy has been very strong, if anything, too strong, causing the fear of inflation. Why do you think the dem candidates haven’t been talking about the economy? As much as you’d like to, you can’t blame your husband being jobless on this administration. Regarding people dying in the heat wave, maybe you heard about the 15,000 people that just died in France’s latest heat wave. Yes, the most liberal country in the world with that “socialist medicine national health plan” that the libs keep pushing for, just watched 15,000 of their elderly and poor die from lack of a/c and an overloaded national health system.
Posted by: Dave B | September 9, 2007, 5:23 am 5:23 am
There are so many sides to this thing that it makes one crazy. The simple fact is, that we as Americans cannot deny the feeling that crawls out from our gut, our instinctive feeling that something has not been right within our country. A sense of Ultimate power, that our vote really does not count anymore. The last time I felt free was before the Bush administration and the vote recount disaster at the beginning of the decade. At the end of the day we forget about it because thats the way that the government has been molding our minds to think. Free-thinking is seen as treason and demanding the truth as terrorism. Our founding fathers would be ashamed at our complacency on the matter. The start of this century could have been a monumentally great start for democracy. A simple choice needed to be made. Whether 9/11 was a political tool or not, leaving our focus of terror cells in Afghanistan and drawing the line would have left us with a sense of victory. Instead our attention was sadly diverted to a completely unnecessary war in Iraq based on false pretense, while the main poster child of the great disaster of our time is floating around the border mountains in Pakistan. Whether or not UBL is murderous or the CIA, he states at least one simple truth. That is that we stood by after being misled into a bloody, costly war that has greatly damaged our country’s once respected view in the world, and let the perpetrators sit in office for another four years. Bill Clinton gets impeached for a blowjob, and Bush gets years of more playtime for promoting bloodshed. We the people have the damn power. It’s well within our rights to overthrow the government and replace it as we see fit. Look at the posts all over the internet, the majority of people don’t even think that UBL is real! Are we really that distrusting of our government? That alone should give us cause to change hands of power. You ask me friends it’s time for a revolution. We as Americans don’t do enough to guide our own fate. We can still make a change, we just have to speak up. Together as one nation.
Posted by: Rosco | September 9, 2007, 6:02 am 6:02 am
You can always tell when King George is getting paranoid and feeling unloved and unwanted – we get another movie from the dark side! Let’s don’t do anything positive…lets not do anything pro-active…let’s just waste billions protecting the Iraqi people from themselves and watch their borders! GWB has been terrorizing us for years with his color coded nonsense and inept administration! Get ready folks – we are not leaving Iraq and Dubya is gearing up for Iran – how is that for a scary bedtime story!
Posted by: White Mountain | September 9, 2007, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Re white moutian::
less scary than the other
Posted by: dude | September 9, 2007, 7:17 am 7:17 am
Re white moutian::
less scary than the other
Posted by: dude | September 9, 2007, 7:17 am 7:17 am
“The most dangerous form of government is a full democracy.” Thomas Jefferson
Which is why America is a Constitutional Representative Republic. Making decisions based on polling is the sure fire way to destroy this country. And the socialists know that.
Israel has as much right to exist there as any of the Arabs or Muslims. If they don’t belong there, then they deserve to have a big chunk of Egypt carved up for them. Because they are native to that region too. It’s amazing how so many lefty commies are anti-Semites on one hand but preach tolerance out their A@#!
Posted by: RT | September 9, 2007, 7:43 am 7:43 am
He gave us an ultimatum to end the war — they will keep attacking us or we can voluntarily give up democracy. This is lunacy itself. What gives him the right to demand anything? This guy and his insanity and influence has to be put away.
When you go vote for a new president next year a big part of your vote will be for either of these two choices….volunteer to give up your democracy and the freedoms our democracy permits, or keep fighting for our freedoms. From his statements it also appears that we have another choice also, if we choose to keep democracy, we can either fight these idiots on American soil or keep the fight where it originated, in the countries which harbor and protect these deranged killers. Your Choice – Vote Wisely
Posted by: YIELDSPREAD | September 9, 2007, 7:47 am 7:47 am
Bush has made me a cynic. I didn’t used to be this way. I hope I am not the only one to smell something fishy about this Bin Laden tape hauled out at another opportune time to rile the kool-aid drinkers with the vapors. Are we now going to be treated with the use of the word Bin Laden and Dem constantly in the same sentence just like the manipulative run up to war use of the word terrorist and Iraq in the same sentence? Some people have peanut butter for brains and there is nothing wrong with them that a good night light wouldn’t fix. If anything, Bin Laden works for Bush.
Posted by: Julia Star | September 9, 2007, 8:09 am 8:09 am
We will kill this guy one day, hopefully soon, he must be enjoying living in a cave. The American trader at his side needs to enjoy the same fate. Strange thing, he sounds just like all the democrats in congress, wounder if he writes their speeches
Posted by: rick johnson | September 9, 2007, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Wow, it’s hard to put into words how utterly stupid some of you people are. I guess hate America first is easier than actually trying to learn the truth. Fortunately, most of you young bandwagoners don’t vote, you just pretend your smart around your friends. Its not all your fault though, your ex hippie teachers taught you this way of thinking. Should we also blame Bush for the first 6 attacks on American embassies and WTC basement bomb while Clinton was president. OOPS, don’t want to make some of you actually think for a minute, thats too hard.
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 8:48 am 8:48 am
Liam Shannon. You sir… are a douche.
Posted by: Jim | September 9, 2007, 8:57 am 8:57 am
the faster this moron osama gets waxed the better
i do like the idea of no taxes under islam (at least for moslems, since the others foot the bill) but id rather pay 95% tax then convert to that sandmonkeys religion
Posted by: jack bauer | September 9, 2007, 9:19 am 9:19 am
This blog is absurd and dangerous.
Of course this post will be quickly deleted as well.
It allows MadManMoon to agitate for civil war in America and deletes any rebuttals.
This means that ABC in fact supports and is aiding in agitating for civil war in this nation because they have not removed MadManMoons posts calling for the murder of those he disagrees with. And they are quickly removing any posts that point out the harsh realities of another civil war in this land.
MadManMoon is just another hate filled NeoLib with Bush Derangement Syndrome.
>>>>>As a proud libertarian conservative, I believe that it is time to take up arms against the cowards, such as Ed and John and the rest of the neo-cons. It’s time to fight those who seek to destroy the American ideal in favor of a fascist neo-con philosophy that more closely resembles dogmatic Stalin than the words of Jefferson, Adams, Paine and the brilliant men who formed this nation.
Live free or die. There is no other way.
Posted by: MadManMoon | Sep 8, 2007 1:03:15 PM<<<<<
Posted by: Norma | September 9, 2007, 9:34 am 9:34 am
My fellow americans, please just let it go. Liberals can’t seem soft on security (which they are) because they will lose another election (they should have won). Michael Moore is right about one thing- Democrats are professionals at screwing things up.
Soooo- The answer is to make terrorism sound like a fraud. Make out anyone who chooses to defend themselves as war hawks.
Turn justice into treason, the blessing of life into an illness (terms like pro-choice are obfuscation attempts) and marriage into the enemy of love.
Through redefinition, and the mindless repetition of the DNC ‘talking points’ sheets they can pretend that the government is to blame for their problems.
While they sit and fume over the subject, we will be at work, or playing with our children, or, like me right now, heading to mass.
Today conservatives will donate more to charity, give more kind words to those around us, and be more productive in our lives.
What these children are angry over has nothing to do with war- read between the lines of their posts! They are still upset that we’ve won two elections for the executive, and more importantly, by proving ourselves more capable of installing judges (go Roberts and Alito!) that will actually read the constitution.
Petulent children who scream and kick when America doesn’t listen anymore.
Remember my friends of reason, conservatives are out-producing liberals 4:1 in child bearing.
They are SCARED. And angry. Complaining about the government is the only way to avoid shouldering the guilt they would otherwise have to carry for their worthless attempts at life.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 9:51 am 9:51 am
SO, JUST AS I EXPECTED, BIN-LADEN IS A DEMOCRAT!!!!!
Posted by: George | September 9, 2007, 10:01 am 10:01 am
So much discussion about a tape that nobady can see. I have been looking for a complete english transcript of the bin laden video but I can find is lengthy blogs and other bla bla bla in the media. I’d prefer to judge what this video means myself…Thanks.
Posted by: ma8yu | September 9, 2007, 10:03 am 10:03 am
The Tape is a fake, The white House should be shame. The Presidency have been tarnished like never before. Reagan was a saint compared to George. We should have sent 170,000 Troops after Ben. No ben No George Everytime George need to scare the 90% of the American Citiczen’s they create a tape. The other 10% has there own mind and never believe what the Gov states.
Fake Fake Fake, Sham on the USA. What happened to the WMD, WMD, WMD. Stop talking about something the average person will forget in 6months.
Posted by: shake | September 9, 2007, 10:27 am 10:27 am
It’s sad to read this board as right attacks left, left attacks right, and America suffers. We are not united and OBL is taking full advantage. I read liberals are soft on security but does anyone realize the Mexico borders are open to trucks coming in and taking our trucking jobs and our taxes money is used so they can allow more Mexican trucks on US Interstates? One day after another attack someone will say we should have connected the dots from the sandbox to South America through the border and the next blown up building. My point is this; If someone throws a rock at my house and breaks a window, I call the police. When it happens a second time I set up security and a perimeter…I don’t fly to Detroit and find someone who throws rocks. Lets focus on protecting America and not ruling the world.
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Libs distrust the government, but want bigger government…ironic. The Dem’s received a huge endorsement…from bin Laden. It must make you proud that you both have the same platform. However, even bin Laden knows that high taxes suck. How about Obama-Osama 2008 or Hillary-Osama 2008 for the for the future Islamo-Socialist States of America. You could annex the proposed Caliphate and move the White House to whatever cave suits you. You libs would be hilarious if you weren’t so damn dangerous.
Posted by: X | September 9, 2007, 10:40 am 10:40 am
With his rant on taxes, his call for a religous state, his support of President Bush as the active agressor in the war on terror, this sounds like a Republican Party campaign advertisement.
Posted by: Frank | September 9, 2007, 10:56 am 10:56 am
we now have been in war since 2004 and I do not see ANY improvements. The only thing I see is more killings of innocent people and soldiers. I think we should end the war. By ending the war it will stop these nonsese of killings. We cannot beat Bin Laddin his army is way too big and they are more resourceful..I think politics and our president do not like to lose but sometimes we all have to lose and come to the realization we cannot always WIN. The war has NOT solved ANYTHING. All it is doing is making things WORSE for us. Does the government or the president CARE ABOUT US at all in the United States…And finally WHY does our president and government send the Iragies money???By sending money we have to pay more taxes and our cost of living has increased significantly and our paychecks remain the same…then you wonder why the United States are becoming more homeless than the other under developed countries…I am interested to hear responses on this one.
Posted by: lori parsons | September 9, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
The only thing worse than the trash from this so-called tape, is the posts made by the IDIOTIC LEFT-WING that are the first to blame the USA. In case you have forgotten, they bombed us repeatedly and then flew airplanes into our buildings. IF YOU HATE THE COUNTRY SO MUCH, GET THE HELL OUT NOW!
Posted by: Don Wayne | September 9, 2007, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Is is just me or does Osama’s ramblings sound identical to Al Gore’s last stump speech?
Posted by: MIke | September 9, 2007, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Protecting America means protecting our far-flung interests.
Blaming Mexican trucks for jobs? Seriously? YOU ARE THE REASON JOBS LEAVE THIS COUNTRY- not the politicians. But rest assured, you’re not the only one. Anyone who buys imported products are the real problem- that and the labor unions which won’t budge over low-skilled positions.
Republicans have asked for unity- so give credit where it’s due. We have asked, begged, provided evidence in mountainous stacks- all to no avail.
The “LEFT” has left (hah!) unity behind in favor of political wrangling- it’s disgusting, and selfish, and cowardly.
COWARDLY.
Let Osama die in his cave with none of the comforts he would crave, except the slow beeping of his dialysis machine.
And let’s focus on the ideology of hate-as we have been. Carve the middle east into manageable pieces, install institutions that lend more weight to logic and reason than emotional hate.
God willing, our people will continue to put our treasure, faith and blood to good use. We will preserve america, even for those who espouse to hate it so.
The left has abandoned unity.
The right is begging for reason.
Instead we get lies and obfuscation.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Osama hates Bush. Democrats hate Bush. Osama wants to oppress women. Democrats have Kennedy and Clinton. Osama seeks the defeat of the military. Democrats seek the humiliation, defeat and defunding of the military. Go figure.
Posted by: W | September 9, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am
The frightening part about this isn’t bin Laden’s message, it’s all of your comments.
Politics have become so fierce, and the difference between right and wrong are so blurred, that you will believe and agree with someone who is truly evil.
The Bush administration has made mistakes, but they did so in an attempt to see that something like 9/11 doesn’t happen again.
I know that makes me “naive,” but if not buying into every single poorly conceived conspiracy theory tossed at us by Michael Moore and the Hollywood left makes me naive, then I must be.
Bin Laden’s statements are directed at stirring up the American Left, and dividing us further. We should be united against him and his ilk.
Bin Laden is the enemy. Al-Qaeda, in Iraq and elsewhere, are the enemy. Islamic extremism is the enemy. Not Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice.
Posted by: Paul Festa | September 9, 2007, 11:32 am 11:32 am
“By ending the war we will stop these nonsense killings.”
No we can’t. If wishes were wings ponies could fly. It will stop us from killing them, but of course, as you WELL KNOW, they will continue to kill us (you). As they did BEFORE Bush or OBL were in the picture.
“By sending money (to Iraq) we have to pay more taxes and our cost of living has increased significantly and our pay checks stay the same.”
Our taxes are lower (given inflation) than at any point in history. Cost of living is within the same margins of increase it has always fluctuated within, and most americans have increased income.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON’T SAVE. You borrow. It has nothing to do with who’s in office- in fact my wife and I have many less fortunate friends- surprisingly none of them were any better off during Clinton’s term.
Home ownership is up across america- the homeless remark was more hyperbole than fact. Sub-prime mortgages are forclosing rapidly, but most could be saved with a phone call- most people run from their responsibilities. And see above about saving money.
And there is much progress- despite hundreds of promises, Al Quaeda has not been able to strike us again. Wondering why?
Because either one of two things is happening- Bush’s security policies are stopping attacks before they reach fruition, or Al Quaeda is too wrapped up in Iraq, pouring what is a finite amount of resources into the battle front that we opened to draw them there-where Americans won’t be in the cross fire.
It’s most likely a combination of both.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Perhaps Bin Laden is correct we are in a total war with Islam. If thats so perhaps we need to inniolate Islam now while we have the stregnth.
Posted by: WayneG | September 9, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am
All of you in favor of this war Enlist NOW strap on that M16 and stand a post. I did for 20 years and served it the first Gulf War. You spend your time supporting the war with words..Put your “Life” were your mouth is. Mount up or shut up!
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2007, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
This bin laden tape is fake. Funny how this came out just when a recent zogby poll indicates that 51% want Congress to investigate Bush and Cheney for 911, 67% say the 9/11 Commission should have investigated the still unexplained collapse of the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7 at 5:20 p.m. on September 11, 2001. The “just for men” hair job is just the gravy as the ruling elite are pissing their pants with laughter at how the talking heads on TV can present this stuff without cracking up!
Posted by: JackieC | September 9, 2007, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Allah Bless America! Mohammad Bless America! God Bless America!..Nothing to fear here Abdullah.
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2007, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
more amazing than the stupidity of Osama’s rant are the inane comments on this story from numbskulls who are prepared to believe that the US government is making up these loony videos. Believe it. Osama wants you all dead – especially you liberals who hate Bush more than your personal executioner-in-chief and religious maniac, Osama Bin Laden and his not-so-merry men.
Posted by: pescat | September 9, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
I have now given 2 years of my life to the “war on terrorism” as I have been called back (AFTER proudly serving my 4 year enlistment) to the U.S Army. I am in Afghanistan for a second time. Now, I have my own theories as to why we are in the Middle East, be it oil, war generated money, or our fearless leaders sick and twisted personal agenda. I have no doubt that nothing is what it seems, ie. the 9/11 attack and several other disasters this country has seen in the past 10 years or so. Regardless of what we or our president has gotten us into, there are PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE AMERICAN LIVES, here and at home. Whether you agree or disagree with the U.S presence in the Middle East, how about you throw some support behind your country or GET THE #!&* OUT!!!!!!! All this political crap is getting sick. What happened to America?
Posted by: Jeff | September 9, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Osama sounds just like the weak cowards in the democratic party. The democrats want the same things as al-qaida, destruction of the values of America as well as the removal of all borders. Our country will become nothing more than a tiny flicker where once was a bright shining light. Where are you Ronnie when we really need you.
Posted by: Jon | September 9, 2007, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Tired of messages from Osama and want us out of Iraq?
1. Park your SUV and start walking
2. Turn down the heat
3. Start taking cold showers
4. Etc., etc., etc.
This conflict with Islamic extremism is all about 3 things: oil, oil, and more oil. If we could conduct our lives without using a majority of the world’s energy resources, maybe we wouldn’t need that 4 billion barrels sitting under Iraq, and maybe we wouldn’t be worried that the Russians will build an oil pipeline to the coast accross Afghanistan.
We are not willing to give up our easy lifestyle, so we have to pay the piper.
And guess what? Hillary’s not going to do any different if she get’s elected. She may even escalate the conflict to prove those nasty extremists can’t push a woman around.
Posted by: RJ | September 9, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
I after being a life long democrat, consider joining the “R”epublicans and their Bin Laden Tapes. If we give them what they want, totalitarian fascist government steps in with a third term for George and we can debate if the war at home is a civil war or not. At some point – we will all fight for what we believe in. The fastest way to change is going to be through the fire. Nazi Germany can be our template. After all who care about a few years with no rights?
Posted by: Miek Hussie | September 9, 2007, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
indie one wrote: “This conflict has always been about oil.
It’s about who controls the resources.
You are free to believe what ever you want, but in truth it is about oil.
This is really a war between Bin Laden and Bush. It is not a war between differing ideologies.”
Very true, we have about what? 20 years of oil left? The only oilfield in the world that hasn’t “peaked” yet is the middle east. So control of this oil is vital to the PNAC plans, last stop Iran
Posted by: II insidejob | September 9, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
There is tons of oil. The problem is that the Left does everything it can to stop us from access to it.
The Left at its core, seems to hate progress of any kind, especially American progress.
Posted by: Lars | September 9, 2007, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I don;t like what this man did on 911, but his reasoning for doing so, makes a lot more sense than our reasons for going to Iraq.
If we had a non biased view concerning the Palestinians and the Israels, 911 would not have occurred.
This guy makes more sense than Bush.Hate him if you must, but THINK of what he;s saying
Posted by: nick | September 9, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
If that was to be piecefull progress i would be pro, but over the backs of millions of muslims…. how can one approve of that? why do you accept this of your leaders?
Posted by: II insidejob | September 9, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
The one thing that ALL AMERICANS forget about our current issues is that for things to continue as they are, WE HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS!!! That’s right folks. What do you think would happen in Iraq if nobody who has to pay taxes didn’t this year? No more tax revenues equals no more war, no more secret detention centers, no more thoughts of invading Iran, no more money to pay our governments many debtors!!!
Things will continue the way they are as long as we let them. Our ecology will continue to decline because we keep driving 50 miles to work every day, because we continue to work in smoke-spewing factories. Our children will continue to be irresponsible and self-centered because we decide to have two incomes instead of one, let school, church, state, and federal administrators decide what info our children should be taught, and we let illegals do the grunt work our children use to cut their teeth in the work force on.
So do America a favor stay home for a week, plant a garden with your kids, and don’t pay your taxes this year. They may have computers to figure out who isn’t paying but really, how do you arrest the entire country for tax evasion???
WE ARE “THE PEOPLE” WHO HAVE BEEN ENDOWED WITH THE ABILITY TO GOVERN OURSELVES, ITS ABOUT TIME WE STARTED ACTING LIKE IT!!!!!
Posted by: markoff | September 9, 2007, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
With very few words changed he sounds like a GOP religious flat-taxer.
Posted by: Gary Denton | September 9, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Funny how all these Libs who have Bush Derangement Syndrome also are always the ones who constantly find fault with America, whine, complain and bash America in general.
This is typical from the party of crybabies and thumb suckers.
Funny how these crybabies always whine about how they have lost “all their rights” yet when you ask them to precisly state any right they have lost – they cannot state a single one.
A “facist” government to your average LeftWingNut Democrat is one that does not ceade to their every demand. The Left wants
Posted by: Truth is Tough | September 9, 2007, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Nick said: “I don;t like what this man did on 911″
ehm Nick, this man did nothing on 911, even now he doesnt claim 911, in fact he explaines it wasnt him doing it
Posted by: II insidejob | September 9, 2007, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
OBL WANTS TO IRRADICATE OUR WAY OF LIFE AND HAS NO HIDDEN AGENDA UNLIKE MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS WHO WANT US TO FAIL SO THEY CAN HAVE THE POWER TO WIN AN ELECTION AND GAIN POWER!I have been torn by this issue untilo now! UBL and anyone who agrees with him is evil and everyone including the deluded left in the USA who agree with him or his goals are evil also! Especially Michael Moore and most of Hollywood! However, they will not like hearing that but this is the land of free speech isn’t it? Unless of course you disagree with them! THE SOCIALISTIC BLOOD STILL RUNS THRU THE MEDIA AND HOLLYWOOD! WHRE IS SENATOR MCCARTHY WHEN YOU REALLY NEED HIM!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
THE LAST TIME I LOOKED, MY ENEMIES ENEMIES ARE MY FRIEND OR HAS EVERYONE GONE MAD?
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
WE LEARNED THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE PRETTY GOOD EXCEPT FOR A FEW RADICAL IDIOTS LIKE MOST AMERICANS ARE GOOD EXCEPT FOR FEW THAT SUPPORT THE RADICAL LEFT SECULAR PROGRESSIVE IN THIS COUNTRY!
Posted by: MOHAMMED! | September 9, 2007, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
I learned that the best way to defeat a strong united people is to get them to fight among themselves! They are winning!
Posted by: Liberal Susan | September 9, 2007, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
America is only the sum of it’s parts. We aren’t Democrats and Republicans, we are Americans! This leftist /right wing talk is WAY beyond old to me.
The Muslim world is completely different than the Christian world in their beliefs.
We will never be able to DICTATE other’s beliefs and vise versa, so both sides would be smart to stop trying.
Iraq had 0% to do with 9/11 and terrorism. There were no terrorists or WMD there. I am so ashamed that we went in there in the first place. Now that we are there Iraq has turned into the terrorist capital of the world. I hesitate calling them terrorist because a lot of them are just fighting what they believe to be an unjust attack on their soil by a super power trying to steal their land, oil and to force them into Democracy and a way of life they don’t believe in.
How would Americans react if China invaded, killed Bush and told us that they were there to save us from Democracy and that we will be much happier once we accept that we are now a communist state?
Bottom line is Bin Laden and his followers will continue to try to kill us regardless of Iraq’s outcome. Iraq is toast though, no thanks to us. They don’t want us there and I don’t blame them. I feel bad that we will be leaving that country in much worse shape than it was when we got there to “save” them.
Trying to fight terrorism is a noble cause. Destroying countries that don’t have anything to do with terrorism isn’t a noble cause.
Posted by: Nodack | September 9, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Interesting how much of the rhetoric resembles the paranoid ideology of the radical left. Noam Chomsky is a self hating Jew and a traitor. No wonder Bin Laden likes him so much.
Several people from my hometown died on the 11th. September 11th conspiracy nut’s are the most disgraceful and degenerate scumbags on the planet.
People like this prove that liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
Posted by: Goose | September 9, 2007, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I learned that people like Hitler and OBL come along every so often to test our resolve to do the right thing for the freedom of mankind, even if it is at our expense. Keep worshiping Paris Hilton and Tim Robbins and see what you all get!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Bin Laden is dead! He has been dead for years and the US government know it!
Posted by: Osmodia | September 9, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Will it take another 911 to prove to the Secular One World Order fascists that they will never win unless we keep our dependance on Foreign oil to the minimun? Shame on you cowardly who let others fight for your freedom to voice your opinion and then you want to pull the rug out from under them! Tell your enemy that you are going to withdraw only insures them complete victory. how would you have handled the situation given the same Government intelligence [oxymoron] that was given to everyone without the benefit of hindsight?
Posted by: Disabled Firefighter and a Veteran! | September 9, 2007, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
When someone asks me where I get the right to call the left wing radicals unpatriotic, I tell the the US bill of rights! Freedom of speech!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
All u right wing nut jobs posting you’re idiotic comments. If you’re such great believers in Bush and this Iraq war, what the hell are you doing wasting your time writing your garbage and not go over there and help out. After all you believe in this war and you still probably believe that Iraq and 911 are connected. turn off Fox news and see whats really happening.
Posted by: nick | September 9, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
This stuff is suppose to happen just like Homosexuality! Natures way to thin the herd! Only the strong will survive and that is the truth! I know you might hate hearing the truth but that does not invlaidate a law of nature.
Posted by: A survivior | September 9, 2007, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
UBL sounds like a spokesman for the Democratic Party — except for the bit about lower taxes.
Posted by: Alex Scammel | September 9, 2007, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
I agree. There is only room on this palent for so many, Just hope I am one of them!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Fox News is so successful because they are fair and balanced and that is the American way, not like AIR AMERICA! The repubicans are not afraid of CNN [the communist news network] unlike the Dems who will not have the guts to take the heat! If Michale Moore wants everyone to be have their fair share he might consider passing up the pig troth and try the salad bar for a change!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
If oil was the only concern, we could have bought it all at heavy discounts from Iraq while they were sanctioned.
We could have subverted OPEC far more easily.
We could have planted weapons in Iraq as an excuse to invade.
In fact, every other viable option would have been far less risky for people in office than staging an attack.
Conspiracy theorists- take the blinders off. Shed the bit. “Three people may keep a secret if two of them are dead.”
Iranian activists, muslim extremists and ex-bathe party officials are watching this closely, you traitors.
The only blind followers are those that refuse to see reason when faced with a mountain of evidence.
Since the Palestinians refuse peace in order to keep killing innocent women and children, since Saddam dismissed amnesty to choose war, since Iran turns down valuable deals for it’s enrichment of nuclear weapons material, the proof is in the religious pudding.
Bush has done more for this country than any president since Reagan. Thompson will carry the torch, and our well balanced supreme court will be rich with vision- all thanks to the right.
How sad for you liberals that you won’t join us. How sad for the terrorists in their blindness, which the left follows.
Neither will be capable of winning when they cannot tell right from wrong.
We should advance our military with civilian force. Load C-130′s now, let our gang members (who are tougher and smarter than any terrorist) and any other civilian with a will go into Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Let our people, with minimal support from our armed forces, seek the blood we deserve from these criminals.
If it’s a crusade they want, then let’s give it to them.
I can be packed and ready on the tarmac at Wright-Patterson within four hours. Issue our weapons, and set us free.
Extremists- meet good ol’ fashioned American enginuity.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Ed…should be President! I do not see anyone wanting to immigrate to the arab countries! They have to import workers and pay them alot of money to put up with the hatred over there!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I wonder how many people here have read the transcript or been lazy enought to rely on the ABC synopsis? It is worse than depicted here!
Posted by: Mike | September 9, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Thanks, Mike. Unfortunately I would make a terrible President. The first order of business would be to end Congress’ entitlements, and lifetime health benefits.
All offices of leadership would take huge salary cuts.
A flat tax of 9.7% would be instituted, along with a small 1.4% federal sales tax on all consumer items. Everyone would pay their fair share.
Health insurance would not be carried through employers- think about it. We carry our own home insurance, our own car insurance. Who in the hell decided businesses had to cover health costs?
The end result would be people having a say in their care- health companies would have to deal with US. If they over price their products, we won’t buy them, and they will go bankrupt. Competition will reign.
Education revenues will increase dramatically, but so will the requirements of teachers.
Police, firefighters and school teachers will be the highest paid civilians in the country (and no- my profession is not in these fields).
And of course the tenth amendment would be reinstated, as it is widely ignored today.
States will have the say, and the people of those states, where the population can craft messages more relevant to their lives.
Food stamps would only buy STAPLES- no more soda, frozen waffles or ice cream- but instead flour, bread and milk, sugar and meat. The things we NEED.
Within three years we will have the answer to freeing ourselves from foreign energy, nuclear power plants and renewable resources will be increased dramatically, as will spending on technology.
China trade restrictions will be lifted, and chinese currency allowable to purchase American goods (China requires its people to purchase ‘credits’ to buy american goods, making it very unlikely anyone would go through the trouble!) or they would lose their most valuable market.
The “BUY AMERICAN” campaign would start again.
Minor drug offenses, prostitution and gambling would be decriminalized. I smoke, but cigarette manufacturing with engineered levels of nicotine would become illegal (and I SMOKE!).
Families would receive incentives to stay together, easing the financial burden that is listed as the number two reason for divorce in this country, and children would be celebrated.
Man does the list go on.
No thanks. I don’t want the job. Too many people hate you for doing the right thing anymore. Just look at Bush!
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Gee, if I didn’t know any better, I’d say that Bin “Out-Lawden” is living right here in the middle of the States…probably even has a U.S. driver’s license, and is voting. I’ll bet he’s even working for MoveOn.org. What does he expect us to do?….Yeah, we’re going to become muslim JUST because you tell us to…
Get a real purpose in life, Bin Lard-o, and crawl back under that rock you slithered out from under….
Posted by: Scott | September 9, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
OK, after reading these posts I am truly afraid for America.
I am not a Republican or a Democrat, but you right wing nut jobs scare me more than Bin Laden.
You can be packed and ready to go at Wright -Patterson within hours as you say, but in a few more hours you will be sitting in front of your computer still spouting a load of crap still. There is no way in hell you would go to Iraq and you know it. Just like there was no way in hell Bush was going to Vietnam.
Bush has destroyed ANY credibility the US had. You call anybody that doesn’t agree with you a traitor. I call you a complete nut job. I certainly won’t blindly follow a leader who I believe to be the king of nut jobs. Bush is a dangerous man and Fox news is nothing but a right wing Republican mouthpiece.
We reelected Bush and that proves that there are even more of you nut jobs out there. It’s a sad time to be an American.
Posted by: Nodack | September 9, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Just drop the “A bomb” on the mountains of Bora-Bora and get rid of the whole problem.
Posted by: Lee | September 9, 2007, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
[According to the transcript, which can be viewed by clicking here, bin Laden opens with "praise to Allah" and his "law of retaliation" -- "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and the killer is killed."]
Matthew 5:38-39
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Jesus Christ)
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. (Mahatma Gandhi)
I’ll bet if Christ and Gandhi were alive today, Osama would be out to kill them or try to issue some sort of “fatwā” against them.
Just goes to show you what a lack of wisdom Osama and his “Allah” have with this “law of retaliation”.
Posted by: sanderson | September 9, 2007, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
Poor buzzard is making desperate plea to key communist allies in congress to surrender in Iraq, because Al-qada is getting their butt kikked.
Posted by: raybojabo | September 9, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I’ve been to Iraq twice, once in May of this year, and once in June. I will be back in late January. Care to play a game of trivia? I’m game.
Unfortunately my company doesn’t allow for side tracks of that (a crusade)nature. I work for an engineering firm that manages factories, or more accurately, moving them. I have had the sad job of moving several American firms to China, Taiwan and Mexico. Far too many to Mexico.
You are free to doubt my metal- that seems all liberals are capable of anymore is doubt.
Are you aware, though, that several interest groups have worked tirelessly to allow for civilian participation? Many people, MANY PEOPLE, have already expressed their interest, and have done so without a request. They have chosen to fight.
I expect no less than this from your side of the aisle- you feel guilty for your fear because it shames you. You believe this must be true of all people, right? If not, you would be forced to ‘own’ it, further scattering the tatters of your self-esteem.
READ: This is what liberals are doing. Nothing. All they do is complain.
How many pacifists does it take to screw in a light-bulb?
None. They sit in the dark and b*tch about it.
Did you have any productive arguements, or are you so busy spewing doubt and charges at others to further your cause?
I’ll repeat- If these clowns really want a crusade, then real Americans should be prepared to ‘bring it on!’
I do face an enormous obstacle however: My wife. It would take a lot of talking to get past that committee.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
The only blind followers are those that refuse to see reason when faced with a mountain of evidence.
Since the Palestinians refuse peace in order to keep killing innocent women and children, since Saddam dismissed amnesty to choose war, since Iran turns down valuable deals for it’s enrichment of nuclear weapons material, the proof is in the religious pudding.
Bush has done more for this country than any president since Reagan. Thompson will carry the torch, and our well balanced supreme court will be rich with vision- all thanks to the right.
How sad for you liberals that you won’t join us. How sad for the terrorists in their blindness, which the left follows.
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
This was a very interesting day. I learned that just as OBL thinks his religion is better than yours the folks on the board tend to think their political party is better than others. You could take the religious posts and place “a party name here” and it all comes out the same. (just look for yourselves). Holier than thou seems to be the subject. Have a great evening.
Posted by: Rod | September 9, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
I believe that was Chuckie Schumer disguised as Bin Laden.
Posted by: Lee | September 9, 2007, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Did you mean supposedly?
Posted by: sc | September 9, 2007, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Islam is not the “fastest growing religion” in Asia, Africa or on earth.
The growth of Islam is almost purely a result of a high birth rate in underdeveloped areas. Islam is loosing huge numbers of alleged adherants to atheism and Christianity. Subsaharan Africa is the area of highest loss for Islam.
The “Islam is the fastest growing religion” nonsense is as much a lie as “Islam means peace”. Salaam means peace, Islam means “submit”.
Frankly, as a GI, because of the far left’s insistance that we surrender. I have to say that those of us in the military may be wasting out time. Let’s surrender to al Qaeda. I do want NYC to put some more video cams up so we can all watch and laugh when Islamofascist terrorists wack the freaks in NYC again.
America, we joined because we THOUGHT you were behind us in the fight against Islamofasism. That is clearly not the case. Next time, let the NYPD handle the 9/11 part two. As for myself and a stunningly large percentage of GI’s: we’ll out of the military before we fight another war for NYC.
Posted by: JMB | September 9, 2007, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Troops OUT !!!!! — NUKES IN !!!!
any questions?
Posted by: brigitte iverson | September 9, 2007, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
As a retired naval officer, I usually do not have a problem with military men or women making comments to the media about a war they are fighting especially when they have experienced a level of danger that few people do. I must admit that the way Bin Laden has used Corporal Lake’s comments and interview reverses my opinion. Clearly Bin Ladin has access to the media and is using it to embolden those who do not desire peace or freedom. We need to find a new resolve to empower the peaceseekers in the middle east if, in fact, there are any.
Posted by: John | September 9, 2007, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
It is O.K. to be paranoid when THEY are out to get you. America Wake up THEY are out to get you. It doesn’t matter who is in office. The goal of the Islamic world is the destruction of the Great Satan. America we are considered to be the Great Satan.
Posted by: Tom | September 9, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Nuclear weapons are not an option. As much as I hate to support any mercy for the murderous thugs, we have to oppose anything that would, by definition of the scope and damage of these weapons, target innocent civilians.
We do not TARGET innocent civilians. Regardless of how culpable that population is for not denouncing these crooks, and driving them from power.
An american militia granted dual citizenship, though, would put voting, concerned members of our more roundly educated populace on the ground.
It could be like a huge ‘neighborhood watch.’
Posted by: Ed | September 9, 2007, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
Seems like many of this forum frequent FOX NEWS CHANNEL and are brainwashed by the programmed content!
Posted by: shane-o- | September 9, 2007, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Each party is slopping at the corporate trough, both parties are hawkish. So why do you support either?
Like millions of Americans I took
an oath to defend the Constitution from
all enemies foreign and domestic, the
worst ones are home grown. The war was based on lies to enrich defense industries and funnel taxdollars to the
rich.
Posted by: bob | September 9, 2007, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
Was I reading a quote from UBL or a piece from the American Democratic party?
Posted by: RJ | September 9, 2007, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
What saddems me most is how we have lost the ability to discuss what the common good is for americans and the world for that matter. calling each other names doesnt help. We are in a very serious situation, some of what OBL says is based in fact. Try reading American Hiroshima by a former very conservitive named David Dionisi, WE need to be able to look squarly at our forign policy. Any way what is the point we have devloped deaf ears.
Posted by: nic | September 9, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Surprise folks and it is verifiable in a variety of places. The Bush and bin laden family have vacationed together and have been business associates for decades. Robert Wright FBI whistle-blower was prevented by his FBI employers from interdicting the financiers of Osama bin Laden. In a press conference represented by David Schippers all he could disclose under gag orders was a solitary statement about the vacations. More coincidences al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history’s little aberrations/ George Bush’s brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines/ former lead counsel for the House David Schippers says he’d taken to John Ashcroft’s office specific warnings he’d learned from FBI agents in New York of an impending attack – even naming the proposed dates, names of the hijackers and the targets – and that the investigations had been stymied and the agents threatened…..
Posted by: JackieC | September 9, 2007, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
I wish the CIA would stay off of blog sites all this misinformation makes my head spin…
Posted by: apeman | September 9, 2007, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
rob-is-right, I’m a conservative and I think you’re disgusting. its not about hating the liberals, its about making them see the light.
Posted by: daniel | September 9, 2007, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Note to daniel: Please don’t bother me with your lies that you yourself are a conservative….note the small ‘c’….maybe you are in financial, consumer affairs, etc., a conservative, but you can’t fool a true Conservative….note the capital ‘C’! Either you are siding with the LIB-o-Islamofascist pig-types or you’re one of us. There’s no middle ground here, Chum!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 9, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
The brainwashed right wing fascists are out in full force on this site. Turn off fox news and tune in to reality for once you dummies. First George Bush ignores warnings that OBL is going to attack us. Then Bush flies the bin laden family safely out of the country after 9/11. W also outsourced fighting OBL to Afghan tribal warlords so that he could invade Iraq. Bush couldn’t care less about OBL or protecting America from terror. OBL is just a great excuse to wage war and make money. The decider just wants the oil law passed in Baghdad so he can claim mission accomplished and go back to Texas.
Posted by: Blue-is-Better | September 9, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
This is a clear fake and ABC news is a speaker for Government Propaganda.
Black beard and frozen video? Why would osama dye his beard? To get into heaven?
Wake up sheeple.
Posted by: Erik, Sydney, NSW | September 9, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Great bumper sticker!!!
Everything is a quagmire to a lazy bum!
Osama Bin Laden (D)Pakistan
Posted by: Libhater | September 9, 2007, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
It is clear from many of the above comments that OBL is not the loonest.
Posted by: JED | September 9, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Why would Al Qaeda use special effects, especially a color glow filter? Why would they switch from digital DV video technology to more blurry analog video technology? Why would they change the color of the beard and use so much blur?
Posted by: rupert | September 9, 2007, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I had no idea how really messed up some of you are until I started reading this thread today.
I could care less about whether you are a Democrat or a Republican. I don’t consider myself to be any one of those because you both scare me. I have to admit the right wing guys here scare the hell out of me most. If I could sum up the vibe I get from them it would be. “You either think like me or you need to be killed with everybody else that doesn’t think like me.” “Your either with us or you are a traitor and need to DIE!!!!”
Those of you blasting all non republicans as neonazifacisislamocrybabycoowardtraitorpigs need to get over yourself. People are allowed to have an opinion other than yours without being traitors.
All liberals couldn’t care less about the military or the vererans?
Do you have any proof to back that up? Can you show me proof that shows that every single man and women who ever served in the military was a right winged Republican? Or is it that all Democrats that served in the military never cared about their fellow men and women in the military. Are you gonna drop a bomb on them too? Wouldn’t it be easier for you to just get all of the right winged Republicans together on an island somewhere and just blow everybody else up on the planet since nobody else but you deserves to live?
I have the utmost respect for the military. I consider them a big dog that does what it is supposed to do by it’s country in times of war. They don’t have anything to do with politics. That’s why when a President sends our young men and women into harms way, he had better have a damn good reason for it.
9/11 happened and the US was ticked off. It makes sense. It ticked off everybody I know. looking for those responsible and bringing them to justice seems like a just thing to do. Most of those responsible came from Saudi Arabia. So naturally as we declare war on Iraq right? 3000 people died in 9/11. At least 50 times that have been killed in Iraq and why are we there? Oh I forgot, they aren’t right winged Republicans so they all deserve to die anyways, right Rob. Just nuke them all!
Posted by: Nodack | September 9, 2007, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
What you are forgetting is that – to their core – Leftists have had a long seething hatred for America. One thing anyone can recognize is that Leftists the world over hate America and always have.
Why would those with Bush Derangement Syndrome join America in the fight? That is not part of their belief system. Nay, instead they dearly want to see America destroyed and reduced to a third world nation.
Posted by: SOS | September 9, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
This is pure baloney, whats with the grecian formula beard?
Did the animators just decide it would be easier to just cover it all over?
Posted by: patrick miller | September 9, 2007, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
You sound like a person who lacks courage and is very easily frightened. It sounds like everything “scares you”. It must suck to walk through life in terror of even the slightest things. Try some psychotherapy perhaps.
Someone who claims to not be from a political party and then who spends their entire post ranting against one political party seems to be far less then genuine.
Funny how many Democrats you see around the web post their rants on blogs first trying to establish some sort of neutral “credentials” and then proceed to rant against Republicans like the most insane Bush Derangement Syndrome KOSSACK or Moveonite. Not even remotely skilled or clever and not even worthy of a “nice try”. It makes you come across as not very bright.
Posted by: MommyKnows | September 9, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
See Helen you prove my point.
You know for a fact that all left thinking people hate America and always have because? FOX told you so? Your cousin Bubba said so?
Yeah, they are born in America, grow up, go to school, have families, visit friends and family on holidays, but “secretly” they want to see America destroyed because they are evil people conspiring to destroy America. You can’t possibly be this ignorant could you?
I didn’t think I was left thinking, but after today I’m sure I’m not right thinking.
Join America in the fight against Islamofacism? What does that mean? Start a war and conquer every nation on the planet that is Muslim and not a Democracy or just the ones with an abundant supply of oil?
Posted by: Nodack | September 9, 2007, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
hey! where did my post go? I just hope that whoever “analyzed” this bleating from EM…I mean OBL, had a legible copy to work from. The Declaration of Independance in the National Archives is easier to read than this pdf abomination.
Put my post back!
I’ll be be waiting nursing my gin here at the “Chestnut Tree”.
Posted by: p7 | September 10, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Unbelieveable! Osama bin Laden and the Democrat Party’s message is exactly the same. I’m sure the transcript was written by Clinton, Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Kerry with maybe some input by Murtha and Dean. It is readily apparent that these neo-jihadists have joined with bin Laden in his efforts to destroy the US.
Posted by: willy39 | September 10, 2007, 12:01 am 12:01 am
I am not that brave of a guy, but I love my country as much as any of you. I have completed eight USO tours to bolster the moral of our troops. I have performed in Alaska, Italy, Iceland, Germany, Turkey, Spain, Hungary, Bosnia, Greece, Africa, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Qatar and a few more I can’t think of right off the top of my head. I don’t care whether you believe me or not.
I have no idea what you were talking about with the fancy titles I got, but I will say thank you even though I’m sure you meant to insult me.
I am only ranting about the republican party because,
A) Their leader has sent my friends in the military over to die for no good reason. Fighting terrorism is a good reason. Picking Iraq out of a seemingly randon list and destroying it in the name of democracy is not a good reason.
B) Almost every Republican post here tonight has basically called everyone that isn’t a Republican a traitor bent on destroying America and I take great exception to that.
Posted by: Nodack | September 10, 2007, 12:14 am 12:14 am
Please don’t go on raving about your “eight USO tours” unless you’ve actually been in the military in a war zone like I have. I am a veteran of the Vietnam War and was a ‘grunt’….11B10…that’s 11Bravo10 to you mindless LIBS! I also became a replacement in a mortar platoon (11C10) after a couple of guys got killed in that platoon. So, don’t go on lecturing me about how bad you had it in your “eight USO tours”!! That’s why LIBS like you have no clue about the military or what it means to fight in a war!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 10, 2007, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Pointing out the definition of ‘traitor’ and then making a distinction about who fits the bill is not a ‘label.’
Iraq is the front for fighting terrorists. We invaded to gain a foothold in the middle east, and ensure al quaeda pours its FINITE amount of resources into that conflict. It keeps americans from being in the crossfire. Though it does seem many on the left aren’t thankful for that. If Bush were the maniac you paint him as he would have chosen a ‘blue’ state.
If our government were as corrupt as you claim it is there would be federal agents knocking on your door, and whisking you away to detention centers.
The fact that you can spew such venom, and then lie about to obfuscate the facts by calling it ‘patriotism’ belies your nonsensical rants. Freedom of speech like yours would not be tolerated by the ‘heroic’ muslim nations of this planet.
It’s simple military doctrine to choose the battlefield, thus making it an effort of initiative. Enter Iraq.
Saddam had the weapons. He used them on his own population. That is proof. It is positive. Never mind that Saddam offered a manifest of his weapons to the UN. Weapons he layed claim to until the moment inspectors arrived.
Saddam was offered amnesty and he ignored it. The palestinians have been offered peace a dozen times and REJECT it at each opportunity. Iran has passed on a ‘win, win’ offer from the Russians to provide fuel and manage waste.
Terrorists don’t want peace. They want domination. Orthodox Muslims believe that women are responsible for temptation, and fear allowing them even the most basic of rights- an education, a driver’s license, or even the freedom to leave the house without escorts.
Fight us over abortion, and homosexual rights. Debate the subjects of taxation and representation. Vote based on your party’s willingness to hand out charity in the form of government social programs.
Those are internal struggles (regardless of how disposable or reprehensible we think those wastes of time are) and should be challenged through the art of debate.
But stand with us on this. Join hands across america and understand that our leaders are NOW fighting the thugs, and together we can beat them.
It is a goal, much like democracy building (no two democracies have ever made war upon eachother) that is finally worthy of our treasure, and blood.
Hitler was contained, according to the pacifists.
And fellow conservatives! Please take the time craft a message. The next election can be won if we can convince, and not cojole the undecideds.
Another slot on the supreme court will bring this country back to reality.
GO FRED!
Posted by: Ed | September 10, 2007, 12:39 am 12:39 am
If you could, could you please show me where I said I had it bad. My point was that I support the military and have gone out of my way to show that support by going to where they are to show my support.
Thank you for serving your country rob. My hat goes off to you for your service to your country.
I’m still going to say what I want to say rob because this is a free country and you fought for my right to say whatever I want.
I would like it if you actually included some insightful dialogue rather than just spending all of your time insulting as many people as you can. Call me a lib or any other name you want. I don’t care, it’s all water off a ducks back to me.
Whether you believe it or not not everybody that isn’t a Republican is bent on the destruction of America. I love my country and that is why I am spending a lot of wasted time talking on this message board with a lot of people that seem filled with hate for their fellow countrymen.
Posted by: Nodack | September 10, 2007, 12:52 am 12:52 am
I cannot believe that any human being would believe this anti-christ. He is made of lies; that is his purpose. OBL would have his way – put Hillary in office and then in a burqua. For anyone to seriously believe he would not like us ALL exterminated, is deluded.
Posted by: wren | September 10, 2007, 1:00 am 1:00 am
Nodack, it’s not ‘hate’, it’s patriotism! Americans like me will stand and fight Fascism from anywhere that it comes from! That’s why it’s very important for anyone, LIBS included, to understand who their true enemy is and be ready to fight since this country is in their gunsites!!
Posted by: rob-is-right!! | September 10, 2007, 1:04 am 1:04 am
I think at least 99% of Americans, Democrats and Republicans think rightfully so that Bin laden wants to destroy America and all it stands for. That is not in dispute at all I believe.
How we go about dealing with that threat is what most of the dispute is all about. We as American can sit down and talk about options or we can just throw insults at each other and get nothing done. Bin laden would probably prefer we did that and is probably smiling if he is reading this site today (if he is alive).
Posted by: Nodack | September 10, 2007, 1:23 am 1:23 am
These Lids always talk about their “freedom of speech” but few of them have ever fought for it. When they were called on during the Vietnam War, most of them headed for Canada.
I spent six years in the Vietnam War fighting for their freedom of speech and at times like this, I almost regret it. Freedom of speech is one thing and treason is another. And, by the way, treason is still punishable by firing squad. If you don’t understand treason, look at what Dennis Kucinich just did and you’ll see it up close.
Posted by: willy39 | September 10, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am
It seems somewhat likely that our military is accomplishing something UBL doesn’t want to happen. Its as hard for me to say this as it is for others here because I too believed we were going to get UBL as our only directive. Yet we’re there whether some of us want our men and women to be or not. That’s why I find it most interesting to read what UBL apparently said; The talking points of the script appear to indicate words and ideas meant to divide us against ourselves (as much as being either pro war or anti war) along with rhetoric we ourselves commonly discuss such as the Kyoto treaty, global warming, etc.
Personally, I think we could accomplish much by simply closing our doors/borders to immigration. Eliminate any kind of visitor visas with an emphasis on people from the middle east if need be. Just close our doors for a while. I don’t want to give up freedom for safety. I don’t know what the best answers to this dilemma are, but I believe there are better ways. Ultimately we US citizens need to unite even though we aren’t going to ever totally agree.
The most important thing to remember is that with true freedom comes the highest levels of tolerance. This is not something UBL promotes in his interpretation of his religion through the caliphate.
Thanks
Harv
Posted by: Harv | September 10, 2007, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Very well said Harv. I don’t know your party affiliation and I don’t care. You are a sorely missed voice of reason to this mix.
I understand that you have to fight sometimes. I also understand Bin Laden and his followers consider us the great Satan and will stop at nothing to destroy us all if they could. Rob says I should understand who our true enemy is and be ready to fight. I think those are sound words.
They also say it is wise to learn as much as you can about your enemy which is basically the same thing.
Who is the true enemy? Really… think about it. Is it Bin Laden? If we kill Bin Laden does this all stop? I don’t think so. This is bigger than Bin Laden.
I am one of these weird people that try to see everything from all perspectives. I don’t think very many people in the US care what the perspective is from the middle east.
We are all just people that grow up in different areas of the world and are subject to different beliefs as a result. Sometimes those beliefs clash. Throw oil into the mix and we have a problem.
Growing up in the US means there is a real good chance you are going to be a Christian. Growing up in the Middle East means you are most likely going to be a Muslim. Growing up in a Republican household makes you much more likely to become a Republican as an adult and vise versa with the Dems. I grew up in a single parent household and politics was never on the menu. The two sides have been at odds with each other for a long time and both sides don’t trust each other. If Rob was born in Saudi Arabia he would most likely be Muslim and would almost certainly hate Americans. He would think we are infidels. We would be told by all around him that America is evil and wants to steal their land and oil from them. Some of the people there would be moderate and some over there would be influenced by people like Bin Laden and come to think that fighting the great Satan America would be the most honorable holy thing they could ever do.
Some are going to say you Bin laden lover traitor fascist whatever name because I write this. I call it getting to know my enemy and try to understand why he hates me.
Some will say does it matter? He hates you and wants to kill you therefore kill him first before he can kill you. I can understand that reasoning. I can understand going into Afghanistan. Bin Laden lived there and the Taliban refused to give him up.
Going into Iraq is another story all together. They were no eminent threat, there was no terrorists there. We made up the WMD story. Then it changed to liberating them. Now it’s because it is the front against terrorists. Some people are happy because we have taken the fight to them. That is a good strategy. The best defense is a strong offense. But who is them? The Iraqi people? Bin Laden and his followers killed 3000 people in 9/11 and deserve to die for that.
They didn’t have one thing to do with 9/11. Does anybody feel at least a little bad about that? Would you feel bad if 70,000 Americans were killed? Are their lives worth so much less than ours?
I believe Bush was right to go into Afghanistan. I believe Bush was wrong to go into Iraq. Now leaving the past behind and trying to find a solution to the situation in Iraq there is three early bad answers.
Cut and run: If you cut and run now we have lost all credibility in the world. The Iraqi government as it is now would be killed as traitors and civil war would erupt along with a lot of influence from Iran and Al Queda. Bad
Stay the course: Stay and maybe the government gets a handle on things and maybe it never gets better as long as we are there calling the shots. Meanwhile the US debt as a result gets bigger and bigger along with more American deaths. Bad
Slow withdrawl: Slowly withdraw troops as the Iraqis get a handle on things. At this point this sounds best, but I’m not sure the Iraqis will ever get it together. We have a bunch of new bases there and they aren’t going anywhere too soon.
I don’t have all of the answers that’s for sure. Iran almost has a nuke and they aren’t trying to hide it that much. We like and trust them less than Iraq. Why weren’t they on the list ahead of Iraq? Probably because Iraq was neutered already and Iran has a built up Army.
Too tired… scary times ahead and a Democrat in the white house won’t make me feel any safer.
Posted by: Nodack | September 10, 2007, 4:28 am 4:28 am
…it is true that Binladen is more truthful than Bush from what we’ve seen; however, it’s also true that he was kicked out of Saudi and declared a rebel by one of the most prestegious Scholars of Islam ‘Abd Al-azeez Bin Baaz… and he was blind.
Bin Laden exits people out of Islam based on their sins and he thinks he knows more than his governement when Islam tells you to obey the government even they take your wealth and whip your backs… He’s an innovator in the religion, and Islam does not condone such acts. He exited the king of saudi out of Islam since he didn’t declare war upon certain lands.
As for Bush; may God guide him to Islam.
Posted by: Scott | September 10, 2007, 7:48 am 7:48 am
LMAO! ABC thinks they can keep the truth from getting out!
Posted by: R.J. | September 10, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am
I just read a story on drudge about Colin Powell. Powell said that Al Qaeda isn’t the real threat, it’s the neoCONs that are destroying our constitution and our freedoms. See ABC, I said the same thing and you deleted it. You’ll never stop the truth from getting out.
Posted by: R.J. | September 10, 2007, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Some of what he says is interesting and, in my opinion, true. He says the democrats were put in power in the last election for the reason of getting us out of Iraq. And, like the republicans, listen only to their corporate sponsors and continue the funding for the war. He says capitalism is problematic because politicians get in power from corporate sponsors and money rather than on issues and true democracy. How could anything be more true? We are given a handful of politicians to choose from: wealth, money, and corporate power decides which politicians are in that handful. –so in that sense, capitalism is a failure. I look at all the democrats and republicans running and there’s not even one who represents my viewpoints and ideals. And I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils anymore: I’m tired of that.
Posted by: Chara | September 10, 2007, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Got that right Chara. All the politicians are owned by corporate business. The only way to get rid of the problems of America is to vote out those that are the cause of our problems. Both the Dems and Repubs are responsible for the $9 trillion national debt and the $60 billion per month trade debt. So the only way to get a new government is to vote anti-incumbent. Any Congressman or Senator up for re-election should be voted out of office. That way we send a clear message that America isn’t going to put up with the coruption any more.
Posted by: lib | September 11, 2007, 10:50 am 10:50 am
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Posted by: Mark | September 12, 2007, 12:53 am 12:53 am
There are different ways to look at any situation; there is no absolute truth. Howabout this view:
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Posted by: Thomas | September 12, 2007, 4:44 am 4:44 am
No absolute truth? But plenty of lies. No God, but plenty of evil. Maybe there is no reality either, just perceptions.
Posted by: R.J. | September 12, 2007, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
ya, lets all convert to islam…that would definatley end the war for shure…in fact why doesn’t the whole world just convert…i mean it’s not like its that big of a difference from judaism, christianity, or catholisism… the women are treated really nicely. alot more rights than the women in america fought for… (i am being sarcastic, for those of use whose eyes are shut.)
Posted by: im right | September 13, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
My last post similiar to this was removed from this site;
Dems and liberals have no credibility to comment on issues of national security, including OBL. Their legislative history and pattern of behavior oppose any kind of action that defends America and the world against evil aggression.
There is no evidence to argue against this statement
Countering this statement by making outrageous charges against The United States of America, the U.S. military, President Bush or his administration will only reveal either naivety, disrespect, ignorance or bias hatred on the part of the person offering the rebuttal.
The Democratic Party, if allowed to control US Foreign policy, will make this country and the world vulnerable to attack by by enemies of freedom & democracy in my well formed opinion.
Posted by: Patriot | September 14, 2007, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Hey, Thomas, can you even tell me what events surrounded those military operations you cite? It’s obvious you oppose any kind of military action. That would be a very narrow minded viewpoint.
If you were sleeping and awoke to find a deadly snake about to bite you, would you kill it if that were the only option you had to prevent your own death or paralysis?
Posted by: USPatriot | September 14, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Hey Nodack:
We didn’t ‘make up” WMD to go into Iraq.
Saddam invaded Kuwait on 2Aug1990. We formed an alliance with Saudi Arabia & Israel on the same side with us. Think about that. We kicked him out of Kuwait, but lefi him in power in Iraq. He then murdered his own people who tried to revolt against him and we had to establish ‘no fly zones’ so he couldn’t kill Kurds and Shia with helicopter attacks. He manipultaed the world into not knowing whether he really had WMD or not. It was an advantage for him if no one knew for sure what he had. But Hillary Clinton belived he had WMD. So did John Edwards. Ted Kennedy thought so, too. Have you reviewed the results of Congress’ vote to authorize the President to take military action against Iraq?
The historical pattern of behavior Saddam displayed and Al Queda’s attack on 9/11 presented potential for disaster to the American people Don’t tell me there’s no evidence of their collaboration. Hindsight is 20/20. Saddam wanted to kill us. He hired people to assasinate George H. Bush. Almost everyone thought he had WMD. Al Queada destroyed the Twin Towers and killed thousands. The potential for another attack was huge. And Saddam was thought to have the weapons and Al Queda had proved they would strike the USA. If he had armed Al Queda and thousands more Americans had been killed, would you be arguing we should have taken Saddam out of power? and elimninated the source of Al Queda’s weapons? Are you gonna argue that we should just allow potential threats to manifest themselves? I was warning people about Osama Bin Laden years before 9/11/01. So did Col. Oliver North. Look what happened. I also beleived we needed to eliminate Saddam Hussein before he pulled off something we’d regret. We took him out of the game and he never got another chance to harm the USA.
We can’t be passive about threats to our contry.
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I think we should take George W, Osama, Rumsfeld, and Cheney and banish them to a desert island and let them play “world domination” there. They are all alike, supposedly fighting “for” people, who, incidentally don’t want to fight. Actually, they are just using fear to make money for themselves and their “old school” buddies. Most people think they are idiots, but, it is the voting public who are the idiots for letting this guy have “round two” unless they have rigged that too.
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Posted by: bob deininger | October 7, 2007, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
it is clear the Bush government is failing in terms of international wars and economic problems but it is also clear that OBL is trying to turn us against our government u must not forget that is his mission, and we americans must do our duty to support the democrats since they are our only hope and act as we have been ordained as the free and the brave,not by killing iraqis or innocent arabs but by putting to justice those that threaten to kill the peace of our world
Posted by: taiwo23 | November 26, 2007, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Bin Laden is a puppet for his own benefits. . Maybe some in authority within American government and some who do have influence here focus on money and oil more than humanitarian efforts globally, but how much aid does Al Queda send anyone, ever?
Posted by: rischaad | November 29, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
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Posted by: Joe Smith | January 4, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
The US government always villified him, but Osama bin Laden is actually a very reasonable guy compared to the NEOCONS that tricked Osama bin Laden into bombing us for years and then used remote-controlled planes on 9/11 and hid the supposed passengers of those planes in Guantanamo Bay! I’d rather have OBL as President than John McCain and Sarah Palin!
Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008, 3:38 am 3:38 am
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