By Lindsey Ellerson

Sep 26, 2007 11:22am

White House Seeks $42.3 Billion More for War

ABC News’ Jonathan Karl and Tom Shine Report: ABC News has learned that the Bush Administration plans to ask Congress for another $42.3 billion to fund the global war on terror.  That brings the total request for 2008 war funding to nearly $190 billion, making 2008 the costliest year, by far, for war funding.

Defense Secretary Gates will present the funding request to the Senate Appropriations Committee this afternoon.  According to a copy of Mr. Gates’ testimony obtained by ABC News, the additional funding request includes:

     – $11 billion to buy more MRAPs (this makes a total of more than 16.3 to be spent on MRAPs in 2008
     – $6 billion for Army and Marine combat units operating in Iraq
     – $6 billion for training and equipment of U.S. ground troops "to accelerate deployment readiness of Army units"
     – $9 billion to repair and replace equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan
     – $1 billion to "improve U.S. facilities in the region and consolidate our bases in Iraq."
     – $1 billion to train Iraqi security forces, bringing the total to $5.7 billion for training Iraqi security forces in ’08 alone.

"I urge the Congress to approve the complete Global War on Terror request as quickly as possible and without excessive and counterproductive restrictions," Gates will say, according to his written testimony.

The administration has already requested $147 billion for funding the global war on terror.  The additional request of $42.3 billion brings the total to $189.3 billion for fiscal year 2008.

Here’s a rundown of how much has been spent on the war on terror since the invasion of Iraq:

    -2007 — $173 billion
    -2006 — $121.5 billion
    -2005 — $107.6 billion
    -2004 — $94.1 billion
    -2003 — $81.1 billion

User Comments

NO, NO & NO — let them take it in taxes on the rich or where-ever. Just how much is Blackwater costing the middleclass tax payer, how much do these guys make and what is the average of soldiers leaving the military and working for Blackwater???????
This is absurd and the Democratic and Republican Legislature must stand up and say NO!!! Loudly —- This is absolutely ABSURD. Have they ever recovered any of the “LOST” guns and how much has the US taken in OIL money from IRAQ.

Posted by: Paulet | September 26, 2007, 11:41 am 11:41 am

I have noticed that when the Dems try to pass legislation ending the war, the news reports that “The Democratic congress failed again”
Why don’t they say, “Again, the republican minority in congress has blocked democratic efforts to stop the war?”
Why don’t they say, “More American troops will die this week because Republicans again blocked democratic efforts to represent the majority of Americans by ending the war and bringing the troops home?”
Why?
The reporting on Democratic failure, instead of on Republican obstructionism is almost total.
Contact the anchors who are perpetrating this virtual attack on the democrats and support of the cover-up of Republicans’ obstructionism..

Posted by: JL | September 26, 2007, 11:46 am 11:46 am

When will the American people learn to stand up to Bush and the Republicans.

Posted by: Bill | September 26, 2007, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

I find it sad that the “left” just does not seem to understaind what this war is really about. It is very simple…we can fight them over there..or HERE. Which do you prefer. Remember 911?? If the boots on the ground are pulled out. the killing will spread. I would bet that all the left wingers that are yelling to stop the war have one thing alike. NONE of them have what it takes to join the military. And yes..to all the left wingers that read this..I WAS IN THE ARMY..and would be over there now if I was not to dol to go. remember this there are only two people who have offered to die for you. JESUS CHRIST..and the AMERICAN GI!!!!!
Liberals…put up or SHUT UP!!!

Posted by: Leslie | September 26, 2007, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Who care, I am making money on the stock market.

Posted by: G.S | September 26, 2007, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

Why can’t the Bush Administration SEE that this is clearly what the American people DO NOT WANT??? When OH WHEN is the voice of the people going to be heard? Is it January of ’09 yet??? Geesh!

Posted by: Jennifer in IL | September 26, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

I think it’s is time as a country to stand up and end this. We can watch our leaders destroy our country by spending billions on a war which benefits them. OR…we can use our wealth proactively for childrens healthcare, poverty abolishment, racial equality, and education. I am in disbelief that we as a nation have not stood unified in defiance of this usurpation of power and authority.

Posted by: allpeopleunite | September 26, 2007, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

What an amazing partisan headline for a formerly vernerable mainstream news organization. How low can you go?

Posted by: Dan Green | September 26, 2007, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Fight them over there instead of here? Well said, dimwit. Instead of focusing the fight in Afghanistan, the IQ challenged Bush opened up another front in IRAQ and in so doing, allowed the terrorists to Win. The War on Terror is nothing but a Sham. 90% of 911 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia, Yet the Saudis were never sanctioned,instead this admin rewarded them with 400% more oil revenues, resulting in record donations to the Terrorists all at the same time USA is breaking deficit records. This admin has done more damage to the homeland than all terrorists could hope to accomplish. Just what good has happened to the nation under GWB ???

Posted by: art funk | September 26, 2007, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

The President clearly cannot hear the voice of the People. What I want to know is can Congress hear us? It is incredulous to me that I continue to say and hear the PEOPLE of the United States say to all branches of our government -ENOUGH! Do we not exist? What happened to the PEOPLE?

Posted by: Athena Cashman | September 26, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

If the democratic party members cut off funding for the troops, the Rupublicans would tell America that the democrats don’t support the troops
America is too ignorant to realize that by cutting off funding, they are saving the troops lives by bringing them out of that quagmire.
Why would a middle/lower class American support Bush when he is vetoing their children’s health care and lowering taxes on the rich, not for the poor?
Seems like its the share croppers supporting the confederacy all over again

Posted by: Steve America | September 26, 2007, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

This is absurd! $189 billion for WAR! A war that was unjustified, a war that is criminal… George Bush does not care what the American public think about this war. It is quite obvious that the MAJORITY of Americans want us OUT of Iraq, yet he only moves to escalate the war. GWB has a lot of blood on his hands. Why can’t we unite as a country and stand up to this war-monger?!
“So here’s to the country that you’ve torn out the heart of… George W., go find yourself another country to be part of!”

Posted by: outraged | September 26, 2007, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Bush would spend every last dollar the middle and lower income families in America has to fight his war in Iraq. What good has come from it? Bin Laden is still
making videos, the taliban is making a resurgence in Afghanistan while American kids are dying by the boatload fighting an a war which we cannot win while civil war rages. In the meantime, 10 million American children must do without health insurance. In 2008 America will choose it’s new leaders and I will bet the Republicans will wish they had listened to the will of the people. If Bush wants to fight terrorism, let him bomb the hell out of Iran and Syria without one single boot on the ground. The terrorists will listen to that kind of “talk”.

Posted by: larry moskowitz | September 26, 2007, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Thank you Bush for making me alot of money on this war,my stocks r doing well

Posted by: G.S | September 26, 2007, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Isn’t that nice, the “Family Values” Republicans and Bush have decided that we must pay for more bullets and death and carnage, then make certain kids in America can go to the Doctor. Hum, quit the dilemma, let’s see, bullets-Doctor, now wonder which one you would pick.
It’s obvious what the Republican priority is.

Posted by: Sue filutze | September 26, 2007, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Is he dumb or what? Hasn’t anyone of his demented administration told him that if the Repubs get a president in in 2008 that they will need the next generation of kids to be strong and healthy to carry on the war in Iraq and God knows where else the Repub war mongers will go next? Keep them healthy GWB! Your GOP party will need them to fight if they win the election! Naturally, they will be pulling from the underprivileged kids again. No wonder he just wants to help the poorest of the poor. They are the majority of the military now. Especially since GWB considers $83K a year (what he probably spends on horse feed) a lot of money. It’s a drop in the bucket in this present expensive Repub economy. Can’t afford to buy anything cheap now – it’s all from China and killing us so we need to pay premium if we want to live another day. GO BUSH AND GOP You’re all doing a heckuva job, Brownie!

Posted by: Ron | September 26, 2007, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

I wish Bush could run for a 3th time.then i would be set.

Posted by: G.S | September 26, 2007, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Of course! We need to help our boys as much as we can

Posted by: Katie | September 26, 2007, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

bush should be impeached and be jailed for the rest of his life

Posted by: kevin | September 26, 2007, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

dumbya has helped terrorism more than he has hampered it…and the brainwashed few aren’t doing their kids any favors by believing his crap

Posted by: chris | September 26, 2007, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

“- $11 billion to buy more MRAPs (this makes a total of more than 16.3 to be spent on MRAPs in 2008
- $6 billion for Army and Marine combat units operating in Iraq
- $6 billion for training and equipment of U.S. ground troops “to accelerate deployment readiness of Army units”
- $9 billion to repair and replace equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan”
Why is the left against these? I thought armor, equipment, and the troops were their top priorities? Or is that only when they are counting the dead and want to put blame on someone else?
If you are worried about the $$ cut some of the failing socialist wealth redistribution and entitlement programs that are the real problem with our governments out of control spending.

Posted by: AD | September 26, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

all you people who are still for this war civilian casaluties in iraq are estimated around 100,000 from the begining of the war to now quoted by the washington post. So think about that for a min. 100,000 inacient people dead in the name of terrorism and the lives of our brave troops. our top generals indirectly said there is no progress being made and a very high % of the american people do not believe in this war anymore why are we still there for?

Posted by: kevin | September 26, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

He is the war President, remember? Especially those of you who voted for him? Twice?
A nation of 300 million idiots elects the biggest idiot.

Posted by: Bob Schadenfreude | September 26, 2007, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Edward,
I am a moron and a coward ..uhmm well let’s see. I joined the Military in 92 so I could go to war..coward’s dont fight. There’s one…. and 2..you call me a moron without ever knowing me. My friend…that just shows YOUR lack of “smarts”. Only a fool judges someone that he has never met.

Posted by: Leslie | September 26, 2007, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Leslie
==I find it sad that the “left” just does not seem to understaind what this war is really about. It is very simple…we can fight them over there..or HERE.==
Well, you have the Bush talking points down pat.
Reality check: If they (the terrorists) wanted to fight us here, they could and would. That’s the thing about terrorism…no borders and no organized military, thus not visible. All they’d need is a dozen or so people to wrack havoc here in this country. So your fear-mongering is just that, fear-mongering.
===Which do you prefer.===
I’d prefer eliminating terrorism instead of Bush-the-Incompetent’s policy of creating more terrorists.
==Remember 911??==
Do you? Do you remember who attacked us? Do you know from which countries they came from? Do you remember that not a single one of them came from Iraq? Do you remember an individual named Osama bin Laden? He was in all the papers…
Do you remember Bush’s comment about “Dead or Alive”?
Do you remember Bush saying, 6 months after 9/11, that he’s not concerned about Osama bin laden? That he’s not a priority?
Do you remember when we caught Osama bin Laden? (Trick question, he’s still running free…)
Do you remember that Iraq had zip point nothing to do with 9/11?
Do you realize how gullible you are to believe that the war in Iraq has anything to do with 9/11??

Posted by: Andrew | September 26, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Going by the reactions to this news item, I think it is safe to assume that the Republicans have dug themselves a really deep hole that will take them at least 16 years to get out of.

Posted by: mathew | September 26, 2007, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

I have a suggestion. If you think we have too many “entitlement programs” here in the U.S., I know some countries you could go to. Russia is one, their old people need to clean streets with shovels if they want a loaf of bread. India is another – they let their poor sick people and old widows die in the street because they are too poor to get medical help. I’m sure if you look around you can find plenty of countries with no entitlement programs. You would like it there – until you need help of course – then you would be whining plenty for some help while you are dying in the streets. You must be as miserable a person as your comment.

Posted by: Ron | September 26, 2007, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Why would I leave? Russia failed because of the same socialism you Liberals want to destroy this country with. I think you should be the one packing it up. There are plenty of countries out there set up just for socialist Liberals like yourself. You can silence your opposition, just like you Liberals want to do here. No guns, just like you Libs want here. No personal responsibility, just like you Libs want here. You can tax the successful to death in order to support yourself, just like Liberals want to do here.
No my friend, this country was set up to get away from that mindset, not institute it.

Posted by: AD | September 26, 2007, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

The spending only increases!!!!
The democrats are liars and wimps who are only good for bloated speeches.
I’m trying to figure out how to pay my $450( no.. I don’t live in a mansion) electricity bill and here he goes and spend our billions.
I say AWAY WITH mandatory 401K, MEDICARE, INSURANCE (from the employer. Give us the money and option to run it ourselves.
Don’t you people get it the more we pay into all of these the more money there is for Bush to spend on wars. Even the drug companies are getting a good chunk in the name of research.
^*^*^*^THIS IS AND ENDLESS LOOP.^*^*^*^

Posted by: kiloroy was here | September 26, 2007, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Leslie said, “I find it sad that the “left” just does not seem to understaind what this war is really about. It is very simple…we can fight them over there..or HERE..
SO WHY DON’T *YOU* GO FIGHT THEM OVER *THERE*, LESLIE???

Posted by: Eric | September 26, 2007, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

So the Republicans can come up with BILLONS of dollars for killing people but schools have to have bake sales to get new equipment and supplies. Love your “family values” Bush!

Posted by: CURRYZ | September 26, 2007, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Are you claiming schools aren’t receiving their federal funding? Because the majority of school funding comes from the state.

Posted by: Stan | September 26, 2007, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

The voice of the people seems to be lost and unheard lately!
Let’s raise our voice again!

Posted by: Susan | September 26, 2007, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Well Stan, if we can come up with BILLIONS to “defend” our country, surely we can come up with BILLIONS to educate the people who will be running this country in the not so far off future.

Posted by: CURRYZ | September 26, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Before they get another dime, they need to find all the money lost to fraud, bad contracts, bribes, etc.

Posted by: Jan | September 26, 2007, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Vote Republican for a permanent US occupation of Iraq. Ask the British how well occupying Northern Ireland kept terrorists from blowing up London pubs.

Posted by: Dan | September 26, 2007, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

This is absolutely absurd. You MUST contact your state representatives and demand that they vote against this additional funding!! Why are we continuing to let him ruin the future generations of America??

Posted by: S Embry | September 26, 2007, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Enough is enough, we need to march to the White House and the Capitol to say no more funding to this war and we need to stop Bush at his tracks. Why are the American people not doing anything about this. Unite.

Posted by: Bahaa | September 26, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Here we go again, King Bush, another great decision from the White House that will not only end the war in Iraq, lesson the injuries and the death count of our brave soldiers (who may not agree-but are only following His orders), but put PLENTY MORE MONEY in the hands of Bush and his cronies’ oil, materials companies, our politicians handouts from all their Lobbyists, and all the security contractor’s bank accounts. Plus if our Congress (who by the way work very hard “for the people,” all people, not just the wealthy 2-3%, ha-ha), decide to NOT do their jobs once again and vote for this shamefully selfish and ignorant funding request, the American people will not only already have the biggest war debt BEFORE 2008 begins, but we will all (except the extremely wealthy)be paying off King George’s and the Congress’ agreeable debt for many, many generations to come. Hey, I know, let’s use all our US money to fight a war that’s been going on between religious sects in a country that only has one thing we want, their oil, and never, and I mean NEVER fund anything as rediculous as Children’s Health Care. Signed–Disgusted and Saddened in Kansas City, MO

Posted by: Susan D | September 26, 2007, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Whatever gets the money! Are you surprised another war is in the making? The cost and effects are rough, but the bomb making business is good, a S ton of cash! They are floating ideas now, they just want to see how many will bite. My Grandpa’s friend from MO tried, but no one listened!

Posted by: j | September 26, 2007, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Gates is a tool, but if you have seen him ever interviewed he is the best there is, at this point. I would talk back door with him, but then give him whatever he wanted. His concern is not political it is the forces involved. If there were anyone redeemable in this present administration it would be him.

Posted by: j | September 26, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

The 20%-25% Republican will continue to support Bush/Cheney til hell freezes over. Russia’s economy, thanks largely to GWB’s foreign policies is recording record budget surpluses bc of Gas/Oil, minerals. American enemies like Venezuela, IRAN, oil producing moslem nations are also recording unprecedented income from Oil. They are also the biggest donors to terrorists. Bush Lied, Terrorists Win. With US dollar in peso-class, America is Owned by foreign powers. How much more damage can this nation take at the hands of Republicans ?

Posted by: JerryS | September 26, 2007, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

CURRYZ, we already spend billions on education in this country. Maybe it’s time we start to audit where all that money is spent?

Posted by: Stan | September 26, 2007, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

We will be in Iraq for at least the next 10 or 15 years. We are building the largest Embasssy in the world there and it won’t matter who is in the White House, our troops will stay. It is sad. No money for anything but war and no change in sight. I feel so sorry for my grandchildren. They will pay for our folly.

Posted by: sharon | September 26, 2007, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Hey AD, saw your comment…
Did you ever stop to consider that the so-called, “Democrats are liars and whimps” can vote against this stupid bill, but if they don’t have enough votes of the Republicans their efforts are fruitless. Maybe you could read up on how bills are passed. I may be wrong, maybe you are all-knowing in all areas of politics. But even if this wasn’t passed, and Bushy wanted it, he’d simply use his “power of veto” again to get his way. By the way, if you’re sick of blogs that don’t agree with your way of thinking, don’t read them! Duh!

Posted by: Susan D | September 26, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Reading about Bush not wanting to help the American Children, and demanding Billions more for War. Just turns my nerves into a furor!!!! oh well, can’t to nothing about the furor!

Posted by: rayschipani | September 26, 2007, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Leslie: What? I’m a Dem and I was in the military. Guess that blows that ridiculous theory of yours. When you grow up you will see the light. Some of us are actually trying to help the soldier…by getting them out. And please, enough with the Bushie rhetoric.

Posted by: rewire1 | September 26, 2007, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

One of the most stupid assertions is that “we can fight them over there or over here” How are enough terrorists going to make it over here, if they were foolish enough to try, to cause any substantial damage? We have hundreds of thousands of soldiers, sailors, marines, FBI, CIA, state and local police and the Homeland Security department. The terrorists are limited in their numbers and in weaponry. If we were to spend a fraction of the effort we are foolishly squandering now to establish a strategy to prevent terrorists and their baggage from entering our country we would be far safer than we are now. Any rational leader would not have dragged us into this horrible dilemma. Instead we now have more terrorists and Americans are less safe and full of fear fueled by the administration. It might be wise to assess the number of terrorists in the world, where they are, and of those whioh would be likely to attempt to enter our country and commit an act of terrorism. Confronting the terrorist situation, analyzing it and developing a strategy to deal with it would have been far more effective, than haring off with full military force to invade a country that was not involved in 9/11. We have invested so much blood and treasure in this unresolvable escapade, created such unreasoning fear in our citizens, that this WW2 vet is losing hope that the country can recover from these years of irresponsible mismanagement.

Posted by: wild2283 | September 26, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Stan – we already spent billions on the Iraq war. Maybe it’s time we should audit where that money was spent?

Posted by: Jane Says | September 26, 2007, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

There could not be a clearer example of the insanely backwards priorities of the Bush administration or how much Republicans truly hate America than this story: the GOP would rather waste billions on a failed, pointless war than spend one penny to help educate American children. Absolutely despicable! One more reason the GOP is doomed.

Posted by: Jane Says | September 26, 2007, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Bush’s agenda was never actually to win the Iraq war, but to spend the government into bankruptcy in order to destroy our social welfare system.

Posted by: Bill Rixson | September 26, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

The democrats just keep giving in to Bush and the ‘minority’ republican senators and congresspersons, it is about time the majority start to limit Bush from the ever flowing money for ‘global war on terror,’ the Iraq occupation, ever present corruption in Iraq and the U.S.

Posted by: Danilo | September 26, 2007, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

guns for butter about sums in up. but what if the guns end up lost,or worse still,in the hands of the enemy? what an inept bunch of morons the republicans are overall, (inept like a fox,one could argue…)as blackwater and other favored republican companies/buddies bask in their warhawkish taxpayer gifts to the tune of approx. 1\2 a TRILLION dollars so far…
so just what has been the benefit to the general public at large since the republicans took over,since ronald reagans’ trickle down economics (lol)and his downright traitorous legitimization of several million illegal immigrants (to appease the farming communitys in california),the latter act in and of itself set a precedent,whether intended or not,for a widespread illegal alien invasion,that is now clamping down on the services and construction industries.thanks ronnie r!!
the bushes have done not better,slashing programs enacted to help the less fortunate to enable huge tax breaks for the richest. pissing off every arab/muslim in the world at us…again, thanks bushes/republicans…
this political regime (aka the republicans) needs to be abolished and laws passed to hinder/stunt/prevent any further possible beginning/advancement of ANY political party that attempts to govern/operate without the majority of the peoples’ interests in mind. the republicans ideals overall are exactly the opposite of what this country needs or wants .this republican regime would definitely buy guns for butter until the cows come home, as long as there is a PROFIT in it for them …what a lamentable pitiable plight it must be to be an un empathetic greed mongering slob of a human being, aka republican…
what most people in this country (excepting the republican fat cats ,they are doing just fine the way things are currently thanks…) need immediately is/are reliable competent services and reliable competent infrastructure,affordable health care for themselves and their kids etc etc ,much more than more than fractionally useful (at best) wars costing humongous amounts of taxpayers’ hard earned money. i think the mood on the ground here at home is easy enough to judge,why isnt the current regime listening? voters remember this when you vote…
no taxation without representation!!

Posted by: bah | September 26, 2007, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

The Coruption of the Administration knows no bounds. Someone throw this president out on his ear. That is exactly what is wrong here. Our kids need health care and education. Yet this administration wants to support his war and not our own people. I am sick. How can anyone stand by this guy.

Posted by: Rose MadAskie | September 26, 2007, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Sep 26 2007
As an older person who has studied psychology, history, and religion, it appears that many Americans are in dire need of psychiatric intervention. If these staunch conservative posts weren’t so pathetic, I would almost be doubled-over in laughter. I’ve never learned about any Liberal leadership who tried to silence their opposition. I’ve always been passionate about justice, liberty, and a system of checks and balances which favors no one. I am a Christian who respects all faiths in this world. I am a Liberal and I never was so proud of it before.
Impeachment or dictatorship – your choice!

Posted by: Brother Tadeusz | September 26, 2007, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

I am a combat vet and I hate this war. It wastes time, resources, and not to mention lives. I’ve already written my congressman to request that additional funding for this war be denied. I believe in taking care of OUR country, OUR citizens, and OUR economy. At this point, as far as I’m concerned, the rest of the world can %&$$ off until we get OUR nation where it needs to be…and in my opinion, that is NOT wasting money in other countries…NOT lining the pockets of our “fairly” elected officials, and NOT letting our kids grow up undereducated and sick. I used to be republican die hard…but then I opened my eyes. What the he[[ was I thinking?

Posted by: VeteranD | September 26, 2007, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

How about neither guns nor butter?
We don’t need “big daddy government” to take care of all of us! Stop wasting money on the war. Stop wasting money on inefficient federal government health care. Stop wasting money on social security that won’t be around when I want to retire!
Give us back our money and let us be the responsible ADULTS our parents wanted us to be! Get the government out of bed with the HMOs, defense contractors, insurance companies, etc. Fix the roads, defend the borders–that’s the job of the federal government. Let me spend MY money on MY healthcare and MY retirement!
“A government big enough to give you everything you want is also a government big enough to take everything you’ve got.” -Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 26, 2007, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

This is so sad our goverment can’t take care of our own. So many billions are given to the forgien countries ther are thousands of people here in the USA that need the help. there are so many families that are below the proverty level and barely survie people that are on food stamps that have families have to buy the cheapest food and most cause them to be over weight .The american people need to stand up and be heard and the goverment stop the wasteful spending to other countries and on a war and help the american people and the country we built

Posted by: Tom | September 26, 2007, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Billions for Bush’s Iraq war profiteers, criminals, and political hacks, but the cookie jar is empty for America’s kids. How typical of Republican values.

Posted by: denizen | September 26, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

Greg8898 – sorry, friend, but that dream of a small federal government died with the horse and buggy. America is simply too big and too technologically complex to go back to the days of small government. Big government isn’t necessarily bad government. You need to wake up to reality and stop pining for an impossibility.

Posted by: Richard Roldan | September 26, 2007, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

This is America under Republican “leadership”: a country that can’t win it’s wars or take care of it’s children’s needs. So sad to see how far your great country has fallen. We Europeans sincerely hope that you can get it together again. But if you can’t, we are prepared to lead the world without you. So very sad.

Posted by: Augustin | September 26, 2007, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

I’m so sick of everyone blaming each other: dems and repubs. Let’s face it, they’re ALL screwed up. Our own two party system has destroyed us and the only thing that gets done is pointing the finger at the each other for all the problems. We have an out of control administration and the Senate and Congress don’t seem to listen to their constituents when they vote. We need to vote EVERYONE out and start fresh!

Posted by: Mel | September 26, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

I don’t blame bush, he’s not too bright, I blame the idiots who voted for him not once but twice; you deserve the government you got by voting in a “C” student.
This is a man who would rather spend billions of our dollars to fight a senseless war rather than providing health care for poor children, what’s wrong with this picture?

Posted by: GG | September 26, 2007, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Greg8898 – AMEN! Richard Roldan – Reality sucks! I’d rather ‘pine’ for the impossible!

Posted by: Mel | September 26, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

I cannot wait for this disgrace, moronic, president of our to get the hell oout of office.

Posted by: Hector | September 26, 2007, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

I too was in a war, WWII, and no one started crying and bleating then when we were not doing well; America pushed twice as hard.
Oh, Oh, on healthcare for the poor kids, huh? Since when is a 25 year old man alone or with six kids a kid? And, since when does a person or family making $80,000/yr need government handouts?
When are you idiots going to GET IT? Bush (who is supposed to be so dumb)is running rings around Pelosi, Reed, and the rest of the Communists the Democrat Party has put in the Congress. The Dems cannot stop the war, and her highness, Hillary, has said that she will not promise that, if elected, she will stop it. Where are you idiots going then????
And your top presidential candidates are Hillary, a Grifter (per Hamilton Jordan, Carter’s Chief of Staff) and a many times liar, and Obama , a ‘Jakarta Street Boy’ (his description himself), who took his Senate oath of office on THE KORAN. He, as bin Laden, is a Muslim, a product of a Wahabi school in Jakarta – the most militant of all the Muslim crazies.
The Dems promised all kinds of great things when they took over both houses of the Congress – other than the minimum wage increase (not the most pressing item on anyones agenda) and dozens of going nowhere investigation, what have the Dems done??? Nothing, but produce hot air, which presumably is increasing global warming (another Lib fantasy which is going nowhere, along with the hurricanes which did not develop last year or this. Huh?).
You Libs are just plain stupid and will remain so. I know you well as I was a Dem for many years, and the peanut farmer with the peanut brain finally opened my eyes. 87% max tax rate – legal thievery.

Posted by: TheOldTrooper | September 26, 2007, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

I have one thing to say: IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SEPTEMBER 11! If we’re trying to fight a war on terror “over there instead of here” then we definitely should not be in Iraq. Bush just used 9/11 as an excuse to go to war. I don’t know why anyone would be for the war anyway. War is typically considered a BAD thing since it involves so much killing. Besides, think of all the things we could be spending money on. What if all those billions and billions of dollars had been used for health care, or charities, or something worthwhile. Then we would all be so much better off.

Posted by: peacelover | September 26, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

greg8898 = another republican trying to change the subject.
the problem with people like greg there is, he is doing fine ,he has plenty ,thanks ,he worked hard for it,and he doesnt want to share it with anyone. well greg, i got news for you. there are 2 things that are sure in life.know what they are? death and taxes…ever hear that? taxes are just that,sharing the wealth,if you dont like it you need to move to gregland and live there.your own private idaho so to speak.i hear land in aussieville is cheap,why not just relocate and retire there,i am sure the standard of living you are accustomed to will be represented very hardily indeed in australia .lol!
greg,just read about warren buffet saying that he thinks he should have to pay MORE taxes…thats where we need to be as a country, citizens who are fortunate enough or hard working enough (or both) to make a good profit operating some sort business or entity in a well defended country that has economic security and strength ,as well as global respect from our neighbors, ought to be ready willing and able to happily pay their fair share for being allowed to be a prosperous citizen in this well defended and globally respected nation. you know greg, those kind of attributes dont come cheaply or easily , 2 very expensive world wars later we are sure of this. freedom isnt cheap,but stupidly thriftlessly spending the lifeblood and tax base of this country in a war that has been raging for thousands of years is just plain stupid and bordering on criminal ,especially in light of the ownership of the companines who are making all the profits off of war making/preparing for war making in general .
anyway the economic state of the nation, as is useful to most citizens includes improvements (such as a well defended nation for example) those improvements are funded by what is known as “taxes” greg, to provide operating capital. without a secure country and viable infrastructure sir,i submit that all your money and best wishes wouldnt protect you from the hordes of thieves and kidnappers that are constantly in the news extorting/abducting/executing innocent people in less developed or more corrupt countries,who either dont have the tax revenue to pay for a security force,or whose corrupt leaders use the money for personal gain (see v.fox/mexico for a prime example,and consequently ,mexicos,vibrant economy…)
in other words greg, important (to me anyway) services like police and firemen and yes,even lowly bridge inspectors greg cost money,ie; taxes, that we,as voting taxpayers, evidently are wasting on a stupid money pit war. that, my friend is the point,its not IF you have to pay taxes,as a responsible citizen that is your duty, the questions are; how much taxes per citizen /per amount of personal worth, where is the tax money going and who benefits from it…those who need it most,or those who need it least/less?

Posted by: bah | September 26, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Warren Buffet may have his ideas, but no one has suggested that he be elected to dog catcher or any other public office. Libs, get a life, you cannot even run the Country when you are in the majority in Congress. Excuses anyone? You always have them in lieu of action.

Posted by: TheOldTrooper | September 26, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

wasting $12 million a week on a failed war in Iraq is okay with you? Typical dumb Republican. Can’t win a war, and can’t take care of Americans in need at home. Call us when you get something right.

Posted by: David J. | September 26, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Again, Bush makes the “decision” for all of us. We have 47 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE………HELLO, CAN ANYONE HEAR ME!!??? Damn. Whether Repub or Dem, they are all not doing what they were put in office for.

Posted by: Terri B | September 26, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Bottom line: Republicans would rather waste OUR money on a war they cannot win then let us use it to ensure our children’s health. Unbelievable!

Posted by: Tom P | September 26, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Bush says he will veto the insurance bill because he wants children to be covered under “private” insurance. Tell us Mr. President, who will cover them? I work in California where 80% of the businesses are small to mid-size companies, not wealthy Movie Studios or huge Software firms. Small businesses are the economic engine chugging along, and we struggle to offer health care benefits for employees; many simply can’t. These companies are not being greedy or irresponsible – they don’t make huge profits and need to stay in business to pay taxes and make payrolls. Many small to mid-size companies simply cannot afford to cover the overwhelming burden of medical insurance, so employees are forced to pay more or simply drop out of the program. And what do uninsured employees do when their kids need medical care? They put off preventive health care and wait until it comes down to the very most expensive solution – the emergency room. And who pays for that uninsured visit? Eventually it’s all of us, and our employers who pay through insurance increases and lengthy wait times at the hospital. This has become a critical problem and it cannot be shouldered alone by America’s small to mid-size businesses. With an estimated 45% of Americans uninsured at some time throughout the year, our society needs to find an equitable way to help our families, especially people on the lower rung of the economic ladder.

Posted by: idahogirl888 | September 26, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

heres the real burr under the republican saddle, see they know once we have a democratic president(and that date isnt far away for sure) to call the shots and wield the veto sword, things will be quite different. for one thing every person in this country whose single person revenue is over $100k- $150k better get ready to pay their fair share of taxes ,for once in the last 15 years or so…whine about it ,pine for something else but for sure do one thing definitely… if you have alot or make alot of money…get ready for it. ;)
ps if paying taxes bothers you then please feel free to take all your money just go on and move to panama or somewhere,theres no law against it (yet,but the dems are in power so that could change at any minute…) this country doesnt really need or want you or whatever you have,we will be better off without your money grubbing types(s). GO!! HURRY!!

Posted by: bah | September 26, 2007, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

I’m just tired of people saying that we take oil from them and that this is what the war is about. That’s a JOKE. If we had taken even a single drop of oil, you think our gas prices would be so high? Granted we are protecting some interests, but oil has been burned by insurgents, not taken by us.

Posted by: Randy | September 26, 2007, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

what a joke, do we need 40 billion for the war on terror or for the war FOR terror? we definitely do not need the rest of the world to be like us, why do we want to brainwash the whole world?

Posted by: Jim | September 26, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

“Bush’s agenda was never actually to win the Iraq war, but to spend the government into bankruptcy in order to destroy our social welfare system.”
Interesting. I remember reading about a tape Bin Laden released back in 2001 saying that his objective was to destroy the US economy. Looks like he and his “partner” are about to do just that!

Posted by: Kaelindaria | September 26, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

A smaller federal government is not a “dream.” My point, Richard, is that the federal government should have no jurisdiction in the matters of insurance, social security, etc. If we go by the Constitution, and its enumerated powers, those matters are left to the states.
I don’t necessarily advocate an end to assistance for the poor, or abolishing public schools. Like Ron Paul, I support those things being handled at the STATE LEVEL if people so choose, where the people representing us are much more responsive to our wishes. Our founders were smart guys when they realized matters of state and local importance are best left to… state and local government.
And did you even read my post, “Bah?” I don’t support the war, and I’m not a Republican by today’s definition of the party, so don’t lump me in with them. That’s a lazy argument. I want a smaller federal government with more power at the state level–something today’s Republican’s are obviously against.

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 26, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

The cost of this war will affect us poorly for GENERATIONS, not one more penny until we AT LEAST protect the health of the children that will be paying for this debacle.

Posted by: bushite | September 26, 2007, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Oh, by the way, I have a wife and three kids, and we get by on less than $35,000 a year. So am I just some “rich white guy” who’s trying to keep his money? You sound completely ignorant assuming I’m some rich guy who’s greedy, rather than just some guy with principles.
And the people who benefit the most from tax dollars aren’t “who needs it the most;” it’s “who’s the most connected.” Insurance companies, HMOs, oil companies, defense contractors, etc.–they lobby BOTH PARTIES (Yeah, surprise! Democrats, too!) for subsidies, contracts, and tax breaks. The federal government’s got its hand in my pocket to pay for things that aren’t authorized by the Constitution. THAT’S what make me angry. And you’re delusional if you think things will change under a Democratic president.

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 26, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

Yes, I do remember 9-11. And it’s probably going to happen again, since we repeated the same mistakes that lead to it in the first place – invading muslim countries. Our war has killed millions of innocent civilians, lots of whom have surviving family and friends who now would love to be the next generation of terrorists. It is pure racism to claim that they attack us because they’re evil – they attack us because we attack them. The calls for mass genocide “so we don’t have to fight them here” are outrageous.

Posted by: Edward Mann | September 26, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

The bulk of repayment for this war,will be from the kids who won’t get sufficient health care. Go Republicans, keep the jack-boot of opression on the children.

Posted by: bushite | September 26, 2007, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Why is it most of the responses from this blog are from democrats? maybe because those are the people that are sitting at home on their behinds asking to be supported by the people that are hard working. We need government to provide us with health care! We want free food! We want the government to bail us out of our house payment. support me! Support Me! Support Me! Quit the BELLY ACHING and get a job in the greatest country on Earth; The US.
In the meantime just grow a brain and quit being brain washed by the DEMOCRAT!

Posted by: repub123 | September 26, 2007, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

“I find it sad that the “left” just does not seem to understaind what this war is really about. It is very simple…we can fight them over there..or HERE. Which do you prefer. Remember 911?? If the boots on the ground are pulled out. the killing will spread. I would bet that all the left wingers that are yelling to stop the war have one thing alike. NONE of them have what it takes to join the military. And yes..to all the left wingers that read this..I WAS IN THE ARMY..and would be over there now if I was not to dol to go. remember this there are only two people who have offered to die for you. JESUS CHRIST..and the AMERICAN GI!!!!!
Liberals…put up or SHUT UP!!!
Posted by: Leslie | Sep 26, 2007 12:12:34 PM” ================ If this war was really about terrorism, we’d would be doing more against Saudi Arabia for supporting terrorism (15 of the hijackers were Saudis remember), we’d be in Pakistan going after Bin Laden. Fighting them over there (Iraq) instead of here doesn’t wash because Al-queda started coming into Iraq after we invaded. How long are we going to pour hundreds of billions into Iraq so we can play babysitter in a civil war? Fighting them over “there” (Iraq) is the stupidest way to fight terrorism I’ve ever heard. It’s depleting our tax dollars and while not going after the terrorists in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. And terrorists aren’t stupid, they don’t have to go over “there” when they can just decide to come “here”. Mean while our troops are stuck babysitting in Iraq. Great strategy. I can’t believe people are still buying this garbage from Bush. Think for minute please. You can cut through the most of bull the white house puts out if you can just think for yourself.

Posted by: JT | September 26, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

SORRY, I wasn’t complaining for MYSELF. repub123. The same children are being denied, are the ones that will be repaying for this WAR. THAT’S NOT FAIR. They can’t even vote for themselves and they are being burdened with a War Expense, and they can’t get good Health Care from the same people that are SCREWING THEM, and I’m not a Democrat, I’m independent. Difference: Dems are too lazy to vote, too forgiving, and their attention span for crap like this will never last until voting time in 2008. I was a Proud Republican, but, I see nothing HONORABLE lately.

Posted by: bushite | September 26, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

I have nothing at stake in IRAQ, nothing. It’s ironic that you have so much hatred for mthe people that use the “rights of Free Speech”, something your comrads DIED FOR.

Posted by: bushite | September 26, 2007, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Remember Katrina, remember the Iraq war, remember the Kids Health bill, for what does G.W.Bush stand.

Posted by: Denis | September 26, 2007, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

I feel sorry for our children and their generation, I do not think we can control ourselves internally, or receive any assistance from the nations.

Posted by: Williamwfh | September 26, 2007, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Must ask…
Why would Al Qaeda (sunni) work with Iran (shiite), if they wont talk in Iraq, why would they talk in Iran…
wait they wouldn’t/

Posted by: Steve America | September 26, 2007, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm

i see greg.theres only one problem with your assumptions as to the inner workings of state/federal tax appropriations. do a google on ” bridge to nowhere” or ” pork barrel spending” and youll see what i mean.
sad fact is that all states,and consequently their tax bases and revenues arent equal.thats why your approach wont work, some states need FEDERAL ASSISTANCE to reach appropriate levels ,particularly in health,welfare and human services areas. some states,such as alaska in the attempted “bridge to nowhere” project, simply try to get tax money for pet projects or to appease/attract local businesses. thats why we need a federal system to oversee such spending,and thats exactly why we have the system of checks and balances in the appropriations of taxes, as you might have noticed, the aforementioned alaska bridge project was pretty much denied funding,and rightfully so. thats what a good government does,hopefully,it separates the potential societal improvements/projects into categories of developments that do ,or ones that dont support the overall interests of the society as a whole,eg; the usa/50 states.
good government isnt necessarily small, but it does need to be efficient and fair, and this current regime fails horribly on both counts. but to give too much power to local governing authorities generally leads to more katrina type fiascos, for example. if the authorities in new orleans had spent the tax money they had on fixing the levies and such the hurricane would not have had nearly the destructive effect,but they didnt ,the hurricane did,and you know what greg? guess who pays for that? taxpayers greg,thats who because new orleans happens to be in louisiana and louisiana happens to be in the usa and we are a republic made up of states and(thanks to some really smart great great great great grandfathers) united we stand,divided we fall…
so we all support each other greg,and thats the way it has to be really, with 50 non equal states in a republic,united by federal laws and regulations. at least thats what the constitutional signers thought anyway…got a better idea?

Posted by: bah | September 26, 2007, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

one last example and i will go…
which do you think would be better suited to develop and actively implement a space journey to mars, the state of alabama or the usa as a whole? see the power of a united government? one state out of 50 might not make much of a difference but when we all pull together watch out.the world found that out big time in ww2 ,but we as a nation of voters have forgotten what a powerhouse this country can be when there is consistent logical reasoning power fairly (at least perceived to be anyway) governing this nation.
the solution to this current conundrum is to let some smart qualified people have a chance at the reigns of politics instead of hollywood actors , industrialists’ yes men and rich spoiled brats and this country will do just fine. “campaign finance reform”, “election reform” , ” term limits”, these are specifically what is needed and until such reforms are adopted and implemented only the elite the rich and the powerful will rule.
there is plenty for all if we share FAIRLY but not nearly enough if a select few in power abuse and rape the system for their own prosperity and/or agenda, the latter of which is what unfortunately is seen constantly today.
taxed fairly greg you have not much to complain about,the problem is not the relative pittance youll pay,but the huge amounts the big money tax dodgers dont pay…if everyone paid fairly what they really owe,according to actual worth there would be plenty for all friends…i personally dont mind paying some taxes to make sure the bridge im going over doesnt fall into the river.

Posted by: bah | September 26, 2007, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

I AM A 62 YEAR OLD SENIOR CITIZEN AND CAN NOT WAITE TO FINALLY SEE PRESIDENT BUSH AND MOST OF THE REPUBLICANS GONE IN THE 2008 ELECTION FOR SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON A SENSLESS WAR INSTEAD OF OUR OWN COUNTRY. EIGHT YEARS WITH NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED FOR AMERICANS IN HEALTH CARE, SOCIAL SECURITY, REDUCED TAXES FOR ALL AMERICANS INSTEAD OF THE RICH, GAS PRICES CAUSING WORKERS TO PAY MORE TO MAKE IT TO WORK, ETC. YOU NAME IT THE REPUBLICANS DID NOTHING IN 8 YEARS FOR AMERICANS.

Posted by: Mr. John Chopyak | September 26, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm

I am a combat vet and I hate this war. It wastes time, resources, and not to mention lives. I’ve already written my congressman to request that additional funding for this war be denied. I believe in taking care of OUR country, OUR citizens, and OUR economy. At this point, as far as I’m concerned, the rest of the world can p!ss off until we get OUR nation where it needs to be…and in my opinion, that is NOT wasting money in other countries…NOT lining the pockets of our “fairly” elected officials, and NOT letting our kids grow up undereducated and sick. I used to be republican die hard…but then I opened my eyes. What the he[[ was I thinking?

Posted by: VeteranD | September 26, 2007, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

On October 27, all Americans please meet me at “The White House” and bring your guns. We’ll stop this insanity!

Posted by: kenny | September 26, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Its so more PROFITABLE to Fund a War then to fund health care for children.

Posted by: carol | September 26, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

YES, let’s finance more War with the money we saved not upgrading child health care. Go BUSH, and take Cheney with you!

Posted by: able | September 26, 2007, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

Let the Pentagon find some of that lost 100′s of BILLION that went missing before the war, and take it back from someones pockets!
There is no such thing as a “War on Terror”. Whatever they think they are going is a constant raid on OUR money!
Col. David Hackworth said regarding a war on terrorism: “It’s not a thing; it’s not a place; it’s not a person. It is a political and military strategy, that’s all. Having a ‘War On Terrorism’ is as ridiculous as having a ‘War on Flanking Maneuvers’. You’ll end terrorism when there’s no longer anything for anybody to get pissed off about.”
When are some of our politicians going to grow up? Before they give “their war” another nickel, they fund the insurance program for kids. No insurance program, Bush gets no money. The Democrats, especially the candidates, are starting to sound and act like those we are trying to get rid of!

Posted by: Dan W | September 27, 2007, 5:57 am 5:57 am

Apparently very few, if any, of you Libs who are raving and rsnting about using the “kids” health care funds to pay for the war have really thought about this very much. In the depression and no one had health care and a great many were a lot poorer that the poorest today. Funny, we were able to grow up, fight and win the war (which was not paid for by childrens’ health care money, as there was none), feed all of Europe and get them on their feet, etc. You ninnies do not understand that we could not have fought and won that war had we been a socialistic nation as you would not make make us.
By the way, I entered the Army when I was 15, in the 10th grade, and became a First Lieutenant iu the Parachute troops, was in the Battle of the Bulge, was severely wounded (3 years in the hospital), awarded the DSC, British Military Cross, Bronze Star, Purple Heart. I paid for my own medical insurance from when I left the hospital until a few years ago when the government took it over.
A 25 YEAR OLD MAN IS NOT A KID – THAT IS WHO IS INCLUDED IN THE “KIDS HEALTH CARE BILL” YOU LIBS ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT. WHY DOESN’T SOMEONE ADDRESS THAT????

Posted by: TheOldTrooper | September 27, 2007, 7:58 am 7:58 am

Amend typo — please change “not make” to “now make.” My eyes are not too good.

Posted by: TheOldTrooper | September 27, 2007, 8:00 am 8:00 am

For $5.7 billion, I could pick the toughest state and federal prisoners in America and train an army of my own! As an American, tax paying citizen, I protest! Even if we just took over the oil business, we have spent more than we could have profited! Why is Iraqs stability so important to the US? What is this war about now?

Posted by: Gerald | September 27, 2007, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Actually, Bah, the best solution to a trip to Mars would be through the private sector–just like computers, I-pods, automobiles, etc. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says it’s the responsibility of the federal government to put a man on Mars.
And our founders intended many states, each with differing laws and services provided by state government. If it didn’t work in one state, you’d move to another or try to change YOUR state, which is much easier than trying to change the unwieldy federal government. Our founders didn’t intend a one-size-fits-all solution, via a massive federal bureaucracy, for all of our problems.

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 27, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am

to TheOldFool who thinks he’s a trooper,
“It’s important for people to know that I’m the president of everybody.”
George W. Bush
January 14, 2005
Aboard Air Force One
I’m a patient man. And when I say I’m a patient man, I mean I’m a patient man. Nothing he [Saddam Hussein] has done has convinced me — I’m confident the Secretary of Defense — that he is the kind of fellow that is willing to forgo weapons of mass destruction.
–George w. Bush
Crawford, TX
08/21/2002
I’ve been talking to Vicente Fox, the new president of Mexico… I know him… to have gas and oil sent to U.S. so we’ll not depend on foreign oil…
–George w. Bush
10/03/2000
From the first Presidential debate
I suspect that had my dad not been president, he’d be asking the same questions: How’d your meeting go with so-and-so? … How did you feel when you stood up in front of the people for the State of the Union Address–state of the budget address, whatever you call it.
–George w. Bush
03/09/2001
in an interview with the Washington Post
“I’ve changed my style somewhat, as you know. I’m less, I pontificate less, although it may be hard to tell it from this show. And I’m more interacting with people.”
George W. Bush
February 13, 2000
From NBC’s Meet The Press.
Bush is quoted as saying that “self-pity is the worst thing that can happen to a presidency.” But the president is quoted as saying First Lady Laura Bush reminds him that this was his choice, saying “she reminds me that I decided to do this.”
Draper says President Bush also admits that he cries. “I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on. And I cry a lot. I do a lot of crying in this job. I’ll bet I’ve shed more tears than you can count, as president,” Bush told Draper.
“I’m going to let the Australian people express their opinion. My own judgment is, I wouldn’t count the man out.
“As I recall, he’s kind of like me. We have both run from behind and won,” he said.
He said that, internationally, it was important to know a leader was being honest.
“And the thing I appreciate about dealing with Prime Minister Howard is, well, you know where he stands.
“You don’t have to read nuance into his words, and when he tells you something he stands by his word.
“And I thank you for that.”
“Our relationship is bigger than any individual in office. It’s a relationship based on values, common values,” he said. “It’s also a relationship — you know — it’s been forged during tough times.
“When we fought fascism we learnt a lot about each other, and the American people have great respect for Australians.” 09 05 2007
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Sydney.
“Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for your introduction,” he told Prime Minister John Howard.
“Thank you for being such a fine host for the OPEC summit.”
As the audience of several hundred people erupted in laughter, Bush corrected himself and joked, “He invited me to the OPEC summit next year.” Australia has never been a member of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries.
Later in his speech, Bush recounted how Howard had gone to visit “Austrian troops” last year in Iraq. There are, in fact, no Austrian troops there. But Australia has about 1,500 Australians military personnel in and around the country.
Upon finishing his speech, Bush took the wrong way off-stage and, looking slightly perplexed, had to be re-directed by Howard to a center-stage exit.
But not before a veteran White House correspondent seized the opportunity to ask Bush whether there had been any new message in his speech. Apparently misunderstanding the question, he bristled and asked, “Haven’t you been listening to my past speeches?” before turning away.
Bush is no stranger to the occasional faux pas, and often jokes about his habit of mangling the English language.
One of his highest-profile gaffes came in May when, at a welcoming ceremony for Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II, he nearly placed her in the 18th century.
Then there was the famous incident at the G8 summit in St. Petersburg in 2006 when Bush, unaware he was on camera, greeted British Prime Minister Tony Blair with the words “Yo Blair.”
The leaders’ tone remained light, but Bush responded firmly: “I can’t make it any more clear,
Mr. President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War. That will happen when Kim Jong IIl verifiably gets rid of his weapons programs and his weapons.” 09 07 07 speaking to South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun
`We agree these issues must be addressed in an ntegrated way,” he said. “We take climate
change seriously in America.” 09 07 07
`No single ible for a handful of countries that are unwilling to make the necessary contributions to bring Doha to a halt,” he said.09 07 07
I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy… I was able to get a sense of his soul.
–George w. Bush
06/16/2001
after meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin
“And I see Bill Buckley is here tonight — fellow Yale man. We go way back, and we have a lot in common. Bill wrote a book at Yale — I read one.”
George W. Bush
October 19, 2000
Comments made at the Al Smith Memorial Dinner in New York.
It is white.
–George w. Bush
07/19/2001
after being asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like It’s the Afghan national army that went into Najaf and did the work there.
–George w. Bush
Washington, DC
09/23/2004
referring to Iraqi troops during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi The president and I also reaffirmed our determination to fight terror, to bring drug trafficking to bear, to bring justice to those who pollute our youth.
–George w. Bush
Santiago, Chile
11/21/2004
speaking with Chilean President Ricardo Lagos
I’m a patient man. And when I say I’m a patient man, I mean I’m a patient man. Nothing he
[Saddam Hussein] has done has convinced me — I’m confident the Secretary of Defense — that he
is the kind of fellow that is willing to forgo weapons of mass destruction.
–George w. Bush
Crawford, TX
08/21/2002
Haven’t we already given money to rich people? Why are we going to do it again?
–George w. Bush
Washington, DC
11/26/2002
to economic advisers discussing a second round of tax cuts, as quoted by former Treasury
Secretary Paul O’Neil
If affirmative action means what I just described, what I’m for, then I’m for it.
–George w. Bush
St. Louis, MO
10/18/2000
during the third presidential debate
More and more of our imports are coming from overseas.
–George w. Bush
On NPR’s Morning Edition
09/26/2005
I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who brings people together.
–George w. Bush
Bartlett, TN
08/18/2000
America better beware of a candidate who is willing to stretch reality in order to win points.
–George w. Bush
09/18/2000
aboard his campaign plane
“We want our teachers to be trained so they can meet the obligations — their obligations as teachers. We want them to know how to teach the science of reading, in order to make sure there’s not this kind of federal cufflink.”
George W. Bush
March 30, 2000
During campaign stop at the Fritsche Middle School in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
I appreciate people’s opinions, but I’m more interested in news. And the best way to get the news is from objective sources. And the most objective sources I have are people on my staff who tell me what’s happening in the world.
–George w. Bush
Washington, DC
09/21/2003
in an interview with Brit Hume, apparently unclear on the meaning of objective
“I think he needs to stand up and say if he thought the president were wrong on policy and issues, he ought to say where.”
George W. Bush
August 11, 2000
Referring to Al Gore and Bill Clinton. From an interview with the AssociatedPress.
07/09/2004
to a group of Amish he met with privately
“I look forward to seeing [Tony Blair] at Chequers. And we sat next to each other at my first EU (European Union) luncheon — NATO luncheon — anyway, at the first luncheon with leaders I sat next to Tony.”
George W. Bush
July 20, 2001
BBC Interview.
“One word sums up probably the responsibility of any governor, and that one
word is ‘to be prepared’.”
George W. Bush
December 6, 1993
It’s amazing I won. I was running against peace, prosperity, and incumbency.
–George w. Bush
06/14/2001
speaking to Swedish Prime Minister Goran Perrson, unaware that a live television camera was still rolling.
I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.
–George w. Bush
This is only a small collection of Great quotes I have from our fearless leader, should I try to do a book deal so I can get abouve the $14,000 year income range.
Keep up the good work you holy man. Only 480 DAYS
14 Hrs 15 Mins 25.5 Secs left till you are your War crimimals are out of power.

Posted by: Rufus | September 27, 2007, 11:49 am 11:49 am

And I forgot my favorite:
here is a quote from our Great Christan Leader!
“I don’t give a GD (Blasphemy) ” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said, “There’s a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a GD (explicit) piece of paper!”
re: an 11/05 meeting with congressional leaders on the Patriot Act.
He has used our constitution as toilet paper and some idiots still think he’s a great leader, Their Ignorance is only surpassed my their stupidity.

Posted by: Rufus | September 27, 2007, 11:54 am 11:54 am

This is great news! ……….. for OBL. This is exactly what he wants ……drain out America of it’s … dollars and….valuble human lives…. till it becomes so poor that ….America can’t fight anymore ……and ………he wins. Already ….the dollar is getting cheaper …..than most currencies. Like the third world countries …… America is dependent on …..foreign money. Good going GWB! …..Stupid dems don’t stop the funding ….. let the country go to dogs ….. why do you care you are rich anyways like your fellow republicans. The poorest of the poor Americans …. pay with their lives. The middle class …. pays with taxes and …life savings. How much more money does the war on terror need? Trillion? 2, 3 ….where does it end…. For a few terrorists (assuming we are really fighting terrorists OVER THERE …) should it costs trillions to kill a few local thugs?

Posted by: viewfromoutside | September 27, 2007, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

the analogy about alabama vs the entire usa has nothing to do with going to mars really ,or what private entity could do it the easiest/fastest. any socio-economic project would do. what i was trying to point out to you is, that one states’ influence or ability to produce pales in contrast to what 50 states pulling together can do.if there was a contest that pitted alabama (or any other single state) against the rest of the country ,49 vs 1 ,its pretty easy to see who would win.
and thats what the original constitutional framers knew and thats why states powers are limited therein. states are part of a larger framework of government and necessarily so. look at new orleans after katrina. without mucho federal help,( aka taxpayer dollars from every state) that place would still be underwater. and dont complain about inefficient use of taxpayer money after katrina. that is a function of mr ron reagan’s undermining of the governmental regulatory functions that needed to be kept in place for the very reasons that became most obvious after 9\11 and katrina type events opened everyones eyes to the truth. yes there needs to be governmental oversight regulations so that while government responsivness isnt neutered by ineffectual red tape,there is not a requisite handout blank check for every tom dick and harry either.
and what did all the local officials do that was so great that saved new orleans anyway? there is a good chance someone with less bias/less local interests (eg; the federal gov) couldve done a better more useful job,even at more cost. just look at what it eventually costs us all to let state/local government take care of what shouldve been a federal project eg; taking care of the levies and dikes in new orleans…now look who is in charge of the clean up and repair, mainly the army corp of engineers,thats because local authorities dont have the resources or expertise to effectively deal with such issues.thats why our system of government is so superior to most, we as a nation of states have a larger more resource rich system than any one state can every have, as a kind of support net. united we stand…
sure some things are ok for a state to worry about on its own, but things like a competent military (and many many other things) are much too costly and diverse for any one state alone. so back to square one, we as states support each other and are taxed in such a way that states who have less revenue are able to afford important socio-economic improvements for their citizens . i see nothing wrong at all with this plan, only its implementation is the issue,and for that to be corrected all we as a nation need are competent fair trustworthy elected officials so that the taxing and distribution of those taxes is done as fairly and as equitably as possible. the only problem is finding a politician fitting the description above is kind of like finding a pink polka dot polar bear i guess….

Posted by: bah | September 27, 2007, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

ONLY IN AMERICA…do Republicans come with their hands out, saying, “Please give us more money for the War”. And one sentence later they scream at our kids, “No Childrens Health Care Impovements, don’t come to us with your hand out, go get a job. We have no more of your Mommy and Daddy’s money, we’re spending it all on Freedom for Iraq.”

Posted by: art | September 27, 2007, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

There’s no help for you, bah, if you think our founders intended “limited state powers.” Try reading the Constitution sometime; that’s exactly the OPPOSITE of their intent. Remember, these folks were used to living under a monarchy. They realized that centralized power in the form of an all-powerful federal government could lead to tyranny. That’s why there’s the “enumerated powers” clause in the Constitution: TO LIMIT FEDERAL POWER. It specifically tells the federal government what it can and can’t do!
You can rant and rave all you want about how we can’t do anything without a big federal government helping us out, but I’d point to what I mentioned before when discussing the “trip to Mars”: computers, I-pods, and automobiles.
How much has the space program progressed in the same time period that we gained personal computers, I-pods, and fancy cars? Little at all, because bureaucracy itself HINDERS progress. There’s no incentive for progress, because that would lessen the very need for the bureaucracy. And you bring up Katrina, the very essence of federal bureaucracy: FEMA and Homeland Security. You heard about the TONS OF ICE the federal government let melt, right? Or turning away Wal-Mart trucks full of bottled water?
And bringing up the military as your defense for a large federal government? Nice one. The military is one of the very few powers EXPRESSLY GRANTED BY THE CONSTITUTION to the federal government. So I guess it all comes down to whether or not you think the Constitution is out-dated and doesn’t apply today, or whether the Constitution is the ONLY way to fix today’s problems. I can tell which side you’re on, “Bah”…

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 27, 2007, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

greg, go back to 1776 and live in 13 tiny colonies.these days this country has to compete globally against many other nations that were nowhere near as powerful as they are today. not to mention the tech sector increase since 1776 ,world growth etc etc…. greg people like you are called idealists, and you live in a dream world. there is a real world out there and all you do is say how much you dont agree with it without offering any concrete better ideas. this system is fine and has EVOLVED over time to consist of many things the original forefathers never couldve conceived of. you know greg,the constitution doesnt say a word about women having voting rights,nor blacks but you know what? now they do greg. those changes/additions are called “ammendments” greg, jeez dude. its folks like you that complain about things they really dont understand that eventually turn this country largely into splintered groups of selfish like thinking idiots like the libertarians and independents etc etc…
and please dont bring up the shortcomings of federal relief in the katrina scenario,the true problem there lays on the doorstep of the republican president who neutered the viable oversight that was/is needed for such a large scale of endeavor. now the things ron reagan cut out as useless and unnecessary are being put back in place,slowly but surely by the current democratic majority. it will take quite a while to fix all the problems the republican have left us with. and remember the s&l loan scandal ronnies’ deregulation of big bad brother gov brought us all?? thats right,another typical republican screw up that was embraced at the time by the money market/banking sector(crazy like foxes …) ,which subsequently led to the worst and biggest financial crisis since the depression (for poor people, at the same time some rich insiders made billions…which of course was the whole idea originally…)
lastly greg,please dont use the space program as an example of private sector output vs gov. thats a good one…the private sector cant even put a man in space ,much less in a space station,and much much less on the moon. so shhh…and greg, most private research in the public sector gets partial government funding one way or the other, many of the things you use everyday were developed by the private sector USING gov grants ,thats taxpayer dollars from every state greg. many more things were developed from space and defense/military research ,that you get to use to free,in other words china didnt invent it,we did so the tech is OURS to patent and sell greg .the upside of these developments,paid for by taxpayer $$ greg is better quality of living for all
see you are saying that the private sector,which is funded in large part by taxpayer $$ via gov assistance , is somehow superior and separate to the gov, without which said private sector would not have sufficient resources (or security) to allow any meaningful development. why do you think other countries invest here in our tech sector? answer: they know the big $$ usa government helps (via tax dollars) little companies that have potentially attractive technologies the gov.is interested in ,so the investors invest in them. tax base goes up. now theres more $$ for social and economic programs… still with me?? the problem is that increased tax $$ isnt being used appropriately , everything else is hunky dory. greg, if we werent in a war,paid for using taxpayer $$, costing 1/2 a trillion dollars we would have lots of excess $$ for pressing domestic issues. if there was a clear vote of confidence from the voters for this war it would be ok,thats the way this country operates, in theory anyway, but the problem is that the voters clearly have different priorities in mind for the use of their taxbase and this current regime isnt listening.

Posted by: bah | September 27, 2007, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Whatever, Bah. Show me the NASA Amendment. Or the Universal Healthcare Amendment. Or the Oil Subsidy Amendment. It’s your kind of thinking–that the federal government automatically KNOWS WHAT’S BEST FOR US–that has given someone like Bush as much executive power as he has, even though you seem to complain about it. Again, you bring up Katrina, but do you know what the President’s done to address a future event such as that? It’s called Presidential Directive 51, which basically hands over control of government and business to the White House in a “declared emergency.” Does that “cut the red tape” enough for you?
See, that’s why there’s little to no difference between the Republican and Democratic parties today. Both want to take OUR MONEY, because they think they know how best to spend it, be that “security” (do you feel safer with our current foreign policy?) or the “war on poverty” (not really much different than the “war on terror”–have we “defeated” poverty yet?). It’s called “centralized planning,” and the Soviets loved the idea!
Call me an idealist if you want, but I think INDIVIDUALS know how best to spend their money. On the other hand, I don’t advocate “no taxes.” Less federal tax money just means more tax money would be available to each state. My problem is, in the 20th century, more people died at the hands of tyrannical governments than anything else. I just don’t think we should give our government any more power than is absolutely necessary, which is unfortunately what we do every time we put it in charge of one more facet of our lives.

Posted by: Greg8898 | September 27, 2007, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

“wasting $12 million a week on a failed war in Iraq is okay with you? Typical dumb Republican.”
HEY DUDE COME ON NOW…..
it’s alot more than 12 million.

Posted by: tony hart | September 27, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Section 8 – Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.
HOT OF THE PRESSES GREG,GUESS WHAT? READ THE ABOVE AND AND TELL ME WHAT PART OF IT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. THE ABOVE IS ALL THATS NEEDED (since 1776 or so…)FOR ANY TAXATION(S) DEEMED NECESSARY BY UNCLE SAM FOR YOUR (AND MY) “GENERAL WELFARE” VERBATIM…
you talk alot about the constitution greg,why dont you try googling it up and really take a gander at it once or thrice….

Posted by: bah | September 28, 2007, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

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