Clinton Beats Obama in Third-Quarter Fundraising

Waste of money.
She doesn’t have a chance.
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The third paragraph says that Obama raised $20 million in the third quarter, yet everywhere else the figure is $19 million. Whoever wrote this article needs to pay closer attention to what they are doing. Yes, I know that if you inadvertantly shift your hands one key to the right 19 becomes 20, but that’s no excuse. Ypu should READ what you write before sending it out for publication. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. If ABC needs an editor for their web site they should drop me a line.

WHY does MONEY seem to make more of a difference in this country’s politics than PHILOSOPHY?

Upon further analysis, I should have said that the third paragraph is simply redundant – except for the figure on the number of donors.
I think what we’re seeing here could be a shift in who the money is going to. I think Barak Obama is a very sharp guy who could one day be our first black president. He doesn’t have the experience and background for the job yet. My opinion is that a Clinton/Obama ticket would be an unbeatable combination, and the experience Obama would gain fromm the VP seat would position him perfectly for the top spot after our second President Clinton has completed her two terms.

I echo Bob’s comment, but I’m more of a cynic, thinking that this reporter wanted to slant this story pro-Hillary by using incompatible numbers in the lead graf.

The numbers in the 4th Q will be even more lopsided.
People don’t think Obama can win. His big money is going to dry up.
Meantime Obama’s big check writers will be scrambling to get in Clinton’s good graces. They will start sending checks her way.
As the old baseball saying goes, stick a fork in Obama, he is done.

Goooooo……..Hillary! It will be refreshing to have a president who can speak english again!

I am surprised of people coming out with results without the actual outcome. For you all Hillary fans and supporters, you will be shock when the day comes when real voters come out to vote Obama for PRESIDENT. have you forgotten that she brought money from her senetrial campaign..watch out for the biggest surprise of our life time..I wish you luck Hillary supporters.

If it comes down to it, I’ll vote for her but I think we are kidding ourselves if we think she can win the general election. It’s certainly not because she’s a woman, it’s because she’s Hillary Clinton. Who in the middle of the country (idiologically and geographically) is going to vote for her? This campaiign started too early and there is too much “dead air” on cable news channels that we spend time on who is raising money.

Total waste of money, you are right, she has zero shot!

Keep Talking Republicans! You don’t HAVE a Candidate! Maybe the middle of the country will vote for Sanjaya!_____________________go Hillary!_________________________ GO Hillary!

All about the money. Anybody can be president, but they need millions and millions of dollars just to run in contention. ………. White Water Hillary is now so nervous about Obama and others that she will now buy your vote for, let’s say, $ 5,000 each? … Why is this not the top political headline for ABC? … $ 5,000 “baby bonds” if Hillary is elected? … Will Obama counter with $ 6,000; 7,000; $ 10,000? .. Spend it baby spend it. … If this is not manipulative vote buying, what is? … Where is your “unbiased” story ABC? … HELP! We are being “Hill-Billaryed”

Any one that thinks that all of this money is being donated with no strings
attatched is too misinformed to vote…
no matter which party we are refering to, most of this money is from special interest groups. You don’t see all of this money being donated to “worth while” causes-only to the puppet that eventually wins.

I think this idiotic headline is part of why politics seem like football. Let me quote someone else from this thread: “WHY does MONEY seem to make more of a difference in this country’s politics than PHILOSOPHY?” Answer: because they choose not to do what’s right. They keep saying they do good, yet proceed with all the deeds of the devil, such as mass-deceit, mass-murder, industrialised theft, global plunder. Thus, they are a nation of morally-corrupt hypocrits.

This is very biased reporting. First, she did not crush him. ABC is using her total grab (27 million) vs. his primary grab (19 million). When general election dollars are compared, the total is $22 million vs. $19 million – I don’t think anyone would call that “crushing.”
Second, their total primary grabs of $74.9 million for Obama and $62.6 million from Clinton tell that despite her (not crushing) advantage in the third quarter, he has outraised her significantly for the year. He has raised much more support and from more people. Because Hilary gave $10 million to her campaign, they ahve about equal amounts.
Third, how many donors does Clinton have? Obama has 350,000 donors. Looking at second quarter results from various states, she has lots of $4,600 and $2,300 donations – her volume of donors is much, much less.
Fourth, because the reporter hopes to reinforce Clinton’s inevitability and not look critically at the numbers, the fact that Obama has outraised her with an entirely new network and approach while she has had her husband’s network and help is not mentioned. It is instead reported as AHA! Clinton got Obama. Instead, fairness would dictate “Clinton closed the gap in fundraising with Obama.”
And finally, she has had to return a lot of money and not just from Hsu. ABC’s reporter failed to discount her total because of that.

Give it up republicans! You had your chance and you blew it! All one hears from air bag republicans is how they have better ideas than liberals. Well, just look as the condition of the country under their rule, a total disaster. A cloned pig would be a better president than GB.

Any Democrat over any Republican is better for the country. The GOP is out of touch with the USA. Vote Democrat to save the country from going down the drain!

Bush was just in Australia, and he called them “Austrians.” What an idiot. The only HillBilly, is the one that’s been in office for the past six years. _________________________ Oh, don’t forget, “Is our children learning?” _______________ and my personal favorite, “Nukeeler Weapons.” ____ The real HillBilly is GWB.

Sometimes they give the totals for how much was raised for the primaries (Clinton 22 Obama 19) and sometimes they give a grand total for the primary and general election (Clinton 27 Obama 20) Just thought I would clear tha up.

ABC News says “Clinton Cruches Obama”. What the ?$#%!&?
Barack still has raised more money for the primary than Clinton by seven million. But for some reason, ABC News seems to think that he has not “crushed” her. Something is fishy at ABC

Finally some good news for Hillary.Not only did she give herself a 10 million dollar loan, but she found 100,000 contractors to donate to her campaign.She raised 27 million but will have to give back half due to another scam.She has the name and ther MSM to her advantage and Obama came out of nowhere to give her the fight of her life.Does she know that 24000 people came to see Obama in her own backyard.He still leads in primary money with her borrowing 10 million from her senate campaign.But come Jan, all you Hillraisers can jump on the Obama bangwagon , we will need you come 08.

If Guiliani is the guy for the GOP then even I, as a staunch coservative Republican, would consider voting Democrat if the right person was nominated for the Dems, but I definitely won’t if it’s Hillary. I would have to vote for Guiliani in that case. Otherwise, if it wasn’t Hillary, I would probably abstain altogether. But, I would consider Obama, Edwards and Biden over McCain or Guiliani. This should be pretty telling in itself as I know a lot of other conservative Repub voters who feel the exact same way.

One thing that people need to remember is that the current DNC chairman was once deemed to be the ticket winner based on the cash the raised (2004). But, in spite of the money he raised, he fell so hard, he’s still picking up pieces of himself!

Evidently, not all the Hsu’s have dropped! Conniving Calculating Clinton has probably sold the Lincoln bedroom 1 million times over.

Fred is going to mop the floor with Obama and Clinton. They don’t stand a chance. Period. But go ahead and keep donating to the liberal Obama and Hillary. LOL
Posted by: thompson08 | Oct 2, 2007 1:32:39 PM
Well thompson08, Fred better have a big mop…The man just looks over the hill and not even a good actor. If he’s the one republicans have been waiting for, Lots of Luck!

Harper, teh problem is that throwing money at thes things liek education is not necessarily the answer. A good case in point is the D.C. school district–it is one of the best fundeed school districts per student in the land and yet it is one of the worst performing! Why is that? Because of the undue influence and corruption of the NEA. What is needed is actually some serious reform with shcool choice, etc. We need to kick out these cronies who hold their monopoly over the public schools.
Your point is well taken though that obviously there is money to go around, but we chose folly over real principle.
BTW, I don’t think Thiompson has a chance. He looks too much liek a fat cat, Nixionian type, regardless of wha this principles are. It shouldn’t matter but we all know that does. As stated before, the only real chacne we Repubs ahve is a massive backlash against Hillary but the fact is we have to accept it, there just aren’t as many conservative minded people in the country anymore. The younger generations are getting increasingly liberal.

And who titled this ‘Clinton crushes Obama?’

[All the networks seem to want Hillary to win and seem to slant their stories that way.]
Huh??
Try this, type in CNN
They are Atlanta based and Obama biased. If fact, they trashed Hillary this a.m.

Not NEA–I meant NTA! LOL. Hey, change the NEA whilst we’re at it!…
Gaby, I don’t think anyone is that surprised that a black man is able to command such sums. It just needed to be the right guy, not someone as loony left as Sharpton or Jackson. It had nothing to do with colour really, but a lot to do with rehtoric and policies. Obama is a good politician, whether one likes his positions or not. I am not surprised he was able to raise that kind of cash. He is very affable and doesn’t come across as crazed and angry the whole time like some of his counterparts.

dzigner: Speaking as part of the “younger generation,” I think we’re getting increasingly LIBERTARIAN, not liberal. As such, we combine aspects of liberalism and conservatism. For example:
We don’t think the government should spy on us, or regulate the internet, or worry about two gay guys getting hitched. We also don’t think “spreading democracy” through no-win police actions around the world is a valid use of our military.
Likewise, we don’t think we should be forced to pay into a fraudulent Social Security system which won’t exist when WE want to retire. We think taxes are just a way for the federal government to find new ways of wasting money. We think having more choices (such as you bring up regarding schools) is a good thing. We think the federal government should stop giving hand-outs to “special interests” AND corporations alike.
Our generation will hopefully be the one to throw out this two-party system and bring us back to what used to make our country great.

It doesn’t matter if you vote or not, the major corporations and their mouthpiece, the corporate owned media will rig the election if they have to, so Hillary wins.

Most would hardly say Hillary represents real change to the process! Now, Obama or Edwards, yes, but Hillary? No.

Not surprisingly, the big guys (and gal) are ALL bought and paid for by the BIG DONORS. And sometimes (a lot, actually) the same big donors give to both parties’ “leading candidates.”
Interesting. And kinda scary…

Mike Gravel is the only candidate calling for a 4th branch of government, we the people.

It’ll be interesting to see what Mr. Paul’s numbers are. I’m guessing he’ll be at or above McCain, and not far behind the rest of the Republicans. He also will have lots of money on hand with no debt, something many of the other candidates lack.
And it’ll all be from us “little” people, the ones the rest of the candidates like to ignore.

Actually, Kayode, according to donations, Hillary is the girl of commercial banks and big media conglomerates–just like Mr. Obama.
And I really doubt that many Republicans are switching sides to support Mr. Obama. I think he’s just bringing in a lot of new donors. The leading Republican candidates are completely “blah” to the party’s conservative base–which explains the lack of donations.
Aside from Ron Paul–who has grass-roots support among Republicans, Libertarians, and some Democrats–there’s no one on the Republican side who generates any kind of excitement among voters. No one’s going to spend money on someone who’s uninspiring.

Greg, that’s right.
Anotehr issue I see with Obama is that he is appealling to a far larger base of voters on the whole. However, many of these donations are coming from young and would be first time voters in the next general election. They don’t have the cash to keep coughing up so it’s inevitable to see Hillary take the lead. I think Obama’s base is going to quickly dry up unless more are willing to send in additional amounts which I doubt will happen.
Hillary is definitely on the rise “now” but we have to keep in mind her initial funds included $10m from her own account left over from the her Senate race! If you take that out, Obama is still way in the lead, but, yes, trouble is brewing for him.
I just don’t get why Obama hasn’t spent more time being truly “inspirational” as he was in the 04 Dem Convention speech. That seems to have been his peak. Nothing he’s done since comes even close. He needs more substance I guess.

Now let’s see if I get this straight — total dollars and Obama still ahead, total donors and Obama still ahead and the headline reads Hillary crushes Obama??? I thought we were going for a semblance of impartiality?? Or now that the media has cow-towed to Bush — Clinton Mr & Ms. are next?????

I believe the Senator has got the majority of women voters in the south..It is about time that a woman puts the USA back on the Homefront to secure what our vital interest are..and shows how her husband can back her stance..this time with truth and dignity from so much pain…Apachecheynne

Crushes?? Huh?? $20M is huge. Sorry, Hillary-lovers at ABC, Obama is in it for the long haul. Real America wants Obama.

Yes, Obama is crushed, devastated, demolished, heartbroken, frittered away. This trying hard boastful no-nothing neophyte is an embarrasment. Hillary is it!!!!!

I guess if Obama wants to catch up with Clinton, he’ll have to start accepting “dirty” money, the way the Clinton’s made their millions. Don’t lower yourself to the level of a snake Obama! If Clinton wins it will be out of total dishonesty to the american people. The Clinton’s don’t care as long as their bank account grows. You democrats need to look elsewhere for political idols besides “Whitewash”, Arkansas!

“Clinton Crushes Obama?” She raised just 3 million more in primary money….I wouldn’t exactly say she crushed him, considering he still has millions more in primary money, and more cash on hand.
A little pro-clinton spin, don’t you think?

MONEY should NOT be the important factor, their CHARACTER (past AND present) & their AGENDAS SHOULD be the IMPORTANT FACTORS!!! Dennis Kucinich in 2008!!!

Oprah was irrelevant after all. All the hoopla about her endorsing Obama fell on deaf ears. Obama supporters thought he would surpass Hillary in donations this quarter because of Oprah, but no one listens to her anymore. She’s passe and so is he.

you can say what you may but please remember when bill clinton was in office he turned this country around and did great things for us. we had money in our pockets and things were getting better for us. since bush this country has been turned into his private corporation and has been run in the ground. witha clinton administration we will get back our integrity and honor that george bush has so flagerantly given away just so he could be a war time president. over two hundred billion has been given to a country that does not want us there. that money could have been spent to help the american people that need and deserve it. my vote will go to hillary and bill clinton.