Obama Asked about Obama-Gore ’08 Ticket
ABC News Sunlen Miller Reports: How Does an Obama-Gore Ticket Sound? Don’t Hold Your Breath.
Democratic Senator of Illinois Barack Obama put to bed that question from a voter who donned a t-shirt reading, "Obama and Gore: Experience and Youth, Obama and Gore: Wisdom and Truth."
The supporter asked the ’08 presidential hopeful if he would consider taking "the wind out of Hillary’s sails" by asking Nobel prize winner former Vice President Al Gore to be his running mate before the primaries.
"I can promise you that as president I will have him involved in our administration in a very senior capacity in his role," Obama responded that, "having won the Nobel peace prize and an Oscar that being Vice President again would be probably a step down for him."
Obama laughed that the voter would have made a good campaign manager.
Echoes of the previous election were also brought up at the same town hall in Dover, New Hampshire. A woman wanted to know how Obama would avoid getting swift boated and being "turned by the Republicans into a minstrel show."
Obama admitted that everyone was traumatized by what happened in the 2004 with Senator John Kerry but that his candidacy is different, "I don’t worry about getting swift boated. I guarantee you they will go after me, I mean they already started."
The Senator said he would have a different strategy to deal with attacks, "You have to respond forcefully, you have to respond immediately – and you have to respond truthfully. And we are prepared for whatever they throw at me and we will come right at them. "
Ready for battle Obama finished, "I played basketball and I’m skinny but the people I play with will tell you I don’t mind going down low and throwing elbows."

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LOL!!! Now thats a losing ticket for sure. Gore is a Joke. I’m sure Osama would like gore on his ticket so they could raise taxes off of Gores warming fantasy.
Posted by: sponkos | October 24, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
“Nobel peach prize”???
Somehow I doubt that came out of Obama’s mouth. Haven’t the interns at ABC gone back to school by now?
Posted by: Frank | October 24, 2007, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
There will be no Obama administration so who cares.
Posted by: Brian | October 24, 2007, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Mmm, Nobel Peach Prize… *salivates*
Posted by: Chris | October 24, 2007, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Gore’s “warming fantasy”? You, my friend are the one living a fantasy!
Posted by: Just the facts | October 24, 2007, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
An Obama-Gore ticket (or an Obama campaign with significant Gore involvement) would shred apart any Republican ticket that ran against it. Too bad the Democrats are going to be so stupid as to bypass this possibility in favor of Bush II – Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Posted by: sss33 | October 24, 2007, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Gore has a following on the far left, but he would doom and already doomed campaign. Gore’s pathetic attempts to brand global warming as undoubtedly man made with the oh so convincing ‘consensus’ is sad and will blow up in his face. Consensus means nothing in the world of science and engineering and there are just as many scientists who disagree with Mr. Gloom and doom as those who have come to a ‘consensus’.
As far as the Swift Boat thing? OH please, whine me a river. The dems cannot stand to have their own tactics used against them and cry foul while doing the exact same thing. Funny, you’d think if the Swift Boaters were lying the empty suited Kerry would have sued for liable and slander… so apparently, there’s a hint of truth to what they say. Odd that the often promised and never delivered records of Kerry never were produced, huh?
Posted by: DJH | October 24, 2007, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
Why do people even bother taking to osama obama. He has not class and does not even cover his heart with his hand when hear the pledge. It is most likely because he follows the koran and wants to destroy America, just like the loser gore. Why doesn’t Gore debate those who say humans never caused global warming. BECASUE HE KNOWS HE IS FULL OF MUSH AND HATRED FOR AMERICA!!!! GWB
Posted by: Frankenstien | October 24, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
A Obama/Gore ticket would be the same as a Junk Science/GW ticket!…. both have no experience with the truth and no credibility with realiity!
Posted by: Albert Spear | October 24, 2007, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Getting “Swift-Boated”?
I guess they mean telling the truth about yet another cranky sore-loser.
I never understood why Kerry had such a problem with people telling the truth about him……
Posted by: Phizz | October 24, 2007, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Then the conservative prayed on his kness “Oh PLEASE YES! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Obama and Gore in ’08!”
Posted by: JJ | October 24, 2007, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm
Yeah, this article isn’t very well written.
“Obama laughed that the voter would have made a good campaign manager.”
Must have been an interesting laugh.
Posted by: winger | October 24, 2007, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Are all these comments from the Bush kool aid drinkers? I guess so.
Posted by: s. geddes | October 24, 2007, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
This one isn’t from a Bush kool aid drinker, but the Democratic Party better hope it doesn’t nominate Hillary or Obama, at least if we want to win the general and hold the Congress. We need a unifier who can work on both sides of the aisle to pass Democratic priorities while not selling the countries soul. That unifier is Joe Biden.
Posted by: John, Dem - Des Moines | October 24, 2007, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Warming IS a fantasy if you assert HUMANS are causing it.
Posted by: JM01234 | October 24, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Sponkos is the perfect example of how that Obama/Osama gaffe by Romney was carefully calculated and evil. This is how they win. They prey on your fears, your prejiduce and your hate. They use the worst traits of you to distract you while they gather wealth and the power to gather more.
Posted by: Waleeg | October 24, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
“having won the Nobel peach prize ….”; yes, I’d say!
Posted by: tc | October 24, 2007, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Well I wasnt sure about Obama but now I am! Holy Mackel Andy!
Posted by: WRD | October 24, 2007, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Waleeg…you’re really Bob Dylan..right?
Posted by: spiralgyro | October 24, 2007, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
How does a Romney/Huckabee ticket sound ? I’d say ti would be a winner.
Posted by: DanNC | October 24, 2007, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Gore getting a Nobel prize for narrating a dubious film is so pathetic as to be beyond belief. What a disgrace.
Posted by: David | October 24, 2007, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Davis Guggenheim must be so tired of people giving “his” Academy Award to Gore.
Posted by: Red | October 24, 2007, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
Reply to “Just the facts”:
About your article link as “proof” to the “warming fantasy” comments….
You mean to tell me you had to find an article dating back to last June and with data only covering 400 years (which is not geological time scale) as your “proof”?? Me thinks you need to study Earth Science 101 again. :)
Posted by: laughing | October 24, 2007, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
“They ain’t gonna do no Swiftboatin crap on me, Bro.” Yeah, cuz he was never in the military, he received a 4-E deferrment for having ears the size of an elephant, and a brain the size of a flea. If the Swiftboaters lied, why didn’t Kerry sue them?
Posted by: wb hickok | October 24, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Obama has to come clean on how he got 1.6 million for his mansion and has to tell us his deals with the Iranian businessman slumlord in Chicago.
Also he must tell us if he’s a muslim or not.
Sharia Law says that the son of a muslim is a muslim for life.
Posted by: Rich Shepgerd | October 24, 2007, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Why do people keep perpetuating the MYTH that Gore won an Oscar? He did NOT win an Oscar. The Academy Award went to the producer of that silly documentary, not Gore.
Posted by: Bob | October 24, 2007, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Obama would be best president to follow Bush for this country.
Posted by: J | October 24, 2007, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
osama obama and the peace prize idiot.
what a pair—and the demo’s will lose big time
Posted by: george | October 25, 2007, 12:07 am 12:07 am
by the way for “BIG AL” —–
I’M MOTHER TERESA !!!!!!!
Posted by: george | October 25, 2007, 12:10 am 12:10 am
Let’s get real here. Why would a former two-term vice-president want to aspire to be VP again a decade and change later? The whole notion is laughable. Gore is an honorable man and now Nobel laureate who holds sway from a global bully pulpit far more prestigious than anything like maybe holding a vice-presidential role, once again.
Anyone who thinks Gore would be dumb enough to consider a secondary role as a wannabe longshot on a Democrat ticket next year simply has no clue as to how politics works.
Third time lucky? I hardly think so. Meanwhile, he owns the bully pulpit when it comes to the issues he most cares about.
Posted by: david | October 25, 2007, 1:12 am 1:12 am
LOL – I can’t believe all the ranting back and forth from Democrats and Republicans about who will be our next president. It appears to me that the more mud you sling in the opposite direction, the more insecure your are about your own beliefs and choices. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone would just make the best choice for them without trying to make their choice the “right” one by putting others down?
Remember that your words define your own character and not anyone elses.
Peace
Posted by: Eve | October 25, 2007, 1:27 am 1:27 am
“Obama admitted that everyone was traumatized by what happened in the 2004 with Senator John Kerry”
LOL. Some American veterans came out and told the truth about John Kerry. Looks like Obama has something to hide too.
Posted by: Ian | October 25, 2007, 1:36 am 1:36 am
“Experience and youth?” ahahaha
It’s more like “wacko and pure nutcase!”
Posted by: Abe | October 25, 2007, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Don’t like either Obama or Gore, but I can see that putting Gore as a Sec of State would be a very good move for him. And as a Nobel Prize winner, Gore would have some pull in the job.
Posted by: KB | October 25, 2007, 1:53 am 1:53 am
“A woman wanted to know how Obama would avoid getting swift boated and being ‘turned by the Republicans into a minstrel show.’”
Wow….amazing. Already these die hard leftists are calling Republican attacks on Obama “racist”. Amazing.
Posted by: KM | October 25, 2007, 2:11 am 2:11 am
I’m sure even the socialist Hillary would get a laugh out of a barack hussein obama and algore ticket!
Posted by: sunshine484848 | October 25, 2007, 2:14 am 2:14 am
As a Republican, I may very well vote for Joe Biden if he is the Democratic nominee
Posted by: ogilbee | October 25, 2007, 2:29 am 2:29 am
Actually, a couple of comments.
This Obama/Osama/Muslim crap has got to stop. He has explained he’s not a Muslim, so get off your butts and find some new slander, because this one is getting old and only reveals your own sheeplike stupidity. I believe this is the sort of attacks some of the die hard leftists are referring to. If you have to make up something to attack the guy with, obviously you don’t have anything substantial.
This pathetic bitterness about Gore winning the Nobel prize…what the heck is that all about? Aren’t you the same people who say get over Bush winning the election in 2000? Take your own advice. He won. stop whining. get over it.
Finally, I’ve noticed a few people here speaking out in favor of Biden. Why isn’t he doing better? I’ve been really impressed with him. Much more than the front runners.
Posted by: qf | October 25, 2007, 2:52 am 2:52 am
I have never voted for a Democrat since G. McGovern but,I am seriously considering voting for Obama. Now I hear this. Gore strikes me as a condescending snob and a crock. He belongs in Hollywood or Europe, anywhere outside the Government of the United States. Please, Barack, I hope you don’t mean that. If you are for a new direction, Gore should be retired with all the Bushes and Clintons.
Posted by: Alex | October 25, 2007, 3:10 am 3:10 am
John from Des Moines are you SERIOUS, you would vote for Joe Biden, who is in a statistical tie with Steve Colbert(comic)! Nice job John
Posted by: dave | October 25, 2007, 3:13 am 3:13 am
Thank GOD for the Swift boat vets, many *highly* decorated, men of honor speaking the FACTS about John Kerry.
Spared us the election of that pompous condescending anti-military baffoon. Hopefully he will lose his senate seat as well. He deserves to lose it.
Obama Hussien???
No need for anyone to get the facts out on the guy. he provides them himself quite well, He speaks like the inexperienced neo-liberal he is. Obama fans? Fuggedaboutit. Your dreaming.
Hillary has it in the bag.
Advice?
Get used to the initials FDT in reference to the Presidency.
Posted by: gs | October 25, 2007, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Oh, and Gore won an oscar. That proves that he has star power for the starstruck democrats.He sure has been busy since inventing the internet and introducing us to Global Warming, which by the way, did not exist until Bush took office. Don’t forget the dawn of terrorism that was started the day Bush took office. Gore almost stopped Bush’s remote control hurricane , but he forgot about Halliburton’s explosives on the levy. But Gore couldn’t stop Bush’s latest attempt when he single-handedly took a flamethrower to California
Posted by: brock | October 25, 2007, 3:25 am 3:25 am
DEMOCRATS: please wake up and smell the coffee> Thankfully the DREAM bill was defeated(amnesty). Also dont you all realize that ALL your candidates just want to tax and spend and subsidize everyone at successful peoples expense? Wake Up!!!
Posted by: dave | October 25, 2007, 3:31 am 3:31 am
Just to prove my point good ole Charley Rangel is floating a new bill to increase taxes on families making 150-200 thousand and with an additional surcharge. Well excuse me for being educated and living the american dream thru Capitalism, not SOCIALISM.
Posted by: dave | October 25, 2007, 3:38 am 3:38 am
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP MINDLESSLY FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER WITH AN ARROGANT PRETENSIOUS TONE. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE, WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ENOUGH YOU WILL REALIZE WE ARE ALL NOT SO DIFFERENT THAN YOU BELIEVE.
Posted by: rodney mullen | October 25, 2007, 3:46 am 3:46 am
all this obama talk is hot air.
rodham will be the dem nominee.
obama is an unqualified simpleton who was a back bemcher in the IL senate till two years ago.
he had no accomplishments there.
just like hillary rodham is trying to pretend by living in the white house she had some kind of experience.
she has experience as the gov’s wife working part-time at the ose law firm and being on the board of directors for the criminal enterprise known as wal-mart.
Posted by: deroy | October 25, 2007, 4:04 am 4:04 am
algore is nothing more than an overinflated toady. He is a JOKE in his home town AND state. He’s a little rich kid that, if it weren’t for daddy’s money, would be the assistant manager at a discount matress roadside stand. History will show him to be an alarmist left-fringe lunatic, and a pouty loser. As for obama…as long as he’s making the hildabeast cringe, I’m all for it.
Posted by: fred | October 25, 2007, 4:31 am 4:31 am
Albert Gore can’t even carry his home state in national election…..hahahaha
Posted by: Black lable 07 | October 25, 2007, 5:49 am 5:49 am
Obama, Obama, Who’s Obama??
Posted by: hilew | October 25, 2007, 6:14 am 6:14 am
Just what this country needs, a &%$#& like Al Gore, that’s going through menopause, making decisions.
Posted by: retiredcopper | October 25, 2007, 7:22 am 7:22 am
Why would Al Gore even WANT to be Vice President again?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | October 25, 2007, 7:32 am 7:32 am
Gore was even more of a divider then Bill and Hillary…….and that was hard to do. Go for it, Obama, and watch your polling numbers plummet.
Posted by: pax ton | October 25, 2007, 7:44 am 7:44 am
in the article, Obama does NOT say Gore will be his running mate. If fact, he insinuates that is not the case, but some other postion.
Can you Repubs read and comprehend the words, or do you just run everything through your “Republican translator” and hear what you want to?
Posted by: a reader | October 25, 2007, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Gore on the Obama ticket or stating he will be in his administation, is the kiss of death for Obama. Al Gore is a money crazy man, he is being protected by the media from any serious debate about his global warming caused by humans loonacy.
Posted by: JohnW | October 25, 2007, 8:25 am 8:25 am
Obama has zero chance. Most of the bigots in this country are on the left. While Colin Powell could have won Obama would be slaughtered. As for Gore, he is both less than honest and less than sane. Even if his nonsense about global warming is true (which it isnt) does anyone on earth think that Russia and China would honor any treaty? It is revealing that the global warming crowd is against nukes
Hillary has it because of money and the MEDIA. Dan Rather attempted to plant a false story about Bush but what will be done to whoever gets the Repub nomination will be nothing compared to what the did to Bush. If they could get away with blaming Katrina on him they can get away with anything.
Harry Reid said the Cali fires were caused by global warming and Boxer said that if troops werent in Iraq the fires would be controlled. By the way can anyone imagine if Rudy had someone like Hsu associated with his donations. It would be headlines and lead off the news for two weeks.
Hillary is also more left wing than Gore or even Obama. She will destroy the economy with her taxes but the media will blame it on Bush.
Lee Tabin
Posted by: lee tabin | October 25, 2007, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Why wold Gore join a ticket with about zero chance or winning the nomination?
Why would Obama want Gore anyway? Who does Gore bring to the ticket .. besides the far-left Hollywood crowd (who are voting Democrat anyway).
Among the mainstream voters .. I don’t think the Nobel Peace Prize brings that much credibility anymore … most people understand it stopped being about ‘peace’ decades ago. The fact that it has degenerated to this big of a joke has got to be a bit embarrassing.
Posted by: DCD | October 25, 2007, 8:36 am 8:36 am
That poor Obama guy doesn’t get out much does he?
Posted by: Clementines | October 25, 2007, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Aside from being a full on socialist, now he’s given us YET ANOTHER REASON not to vote for him.
What a maroon!
If Mike Ditka would have run for Senate in Illinois as he was thinking of doing, no one would even know who the heck Osama Obama is.
Roomney got it right. He is a terrorist, just a domestic one.
Posted by: Rickster | October 25, 2007, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Is Obama still running?
Other than the Hollywood butt kissers who even knows what Obama stands for.
Best he could do is rub Hillerys shoulders and hope she throws him a bone as a VP nomination.
Posted by: eric frederick | October 25, 2007, 8:52 am 8:52 am
You’re right, this is useless nonsense. We in Iowa will never give Obama or Clinton a win. Biden is the choice of Iowans.
Posted by: Stunt Donkey | October 25, 2007, 8:54 am 8:54 am
A Obama/Gore ticket? Bring it on! That would be great news to the GOP! What a time we’d have with that mistake!
Posted by: Thursday | October 25, 2007, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Wow, I’m really impressed with the level of discussion on the comment board. People are denying that the Republicans will use false attacks against Senator Obama in between comments that make false attacks against Senator Obama or try to link him to various terrorists because of the spelling of his name. Is that what makes me proud to be American?
What the hell is wrong with our country when a decent man who has been a devout Christian his entire adult life, has drawn bipartisan support and praise in IL and the US Senate for the legislation he has passed, and wants nothing more than to have America live up to its ideals again can get ruthlessly slandered by a bunch of people who won’t even do the simple research to learn about his record.
My God it is time for a change in this country from this idiocy. Vote Obama or don’t complain when our house divided fails to stand for anything any more.
Posted by: TarHeel | October 25, 2007, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Biden ….the biggest liar of them all
Terry S
Posted by: Terry L. Smith | October 25, 2007, 9:38 am 9:38 am
shame they call it the Nobel peach prize … Did Obama call it the Peach Prize or did ABC? Either way, it shows a lack of education.
makes all of the reporting suspect because of a typo or ignorance.
It is just propaganda — or typical left wing socialized education coming to the forefront of the caliber of the reporters and the candidate.
Posted by: Bone Daddy | October 25, 2007, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Obama thinks the Oscar is more prestigious than the Vice Presidency?
Now I’m getting it.
Posted by: John Romano | October 25, 2007, 10:15 am 10:15 am
TarHeel, what legislation has Osam, I mean Obama sponsored that has passed in the US Senate?
Get your facts straight before writing your hero worship psalms here.
Posted by: John Romano | October 25, 2007, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Why doesn’t Obama put his hand over his heart when he says the pledge of allegiance?
I can’t find too many redeeming qualities in anyone’s reporting when I read the Nobel PEACH prize!!!
Better go back to the drawing board if you want us to pay attention to anything you are writing.
Joe Biden is spiteful…someone look up the news tape when he laughed at Ashcroft saying ‘haha my son is in JAG’ and ‘your son is in Iraq’… Despicable person.
America, we deserve so much better than this and certainly now we need it.
Posted by: L | October 25, 2007, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Excellent post from TarHeel, deserves a repeat:
What the hell is wrong with our country when a decent man who has been a devout Christian his entire adult life, has drawn bipartisan support and praise in IL and the US Senate for the legislation he has passed, and wants nothing more than to have America live up to its ideals again can get ruthlessly slandered by a bunch of people who won’t even do the simple research to learn about his record.
My God it is time for a change in this country from this idiocy. Vote Obama or don’t complain when our house divided fails to stand for anything any more.
Posted by: LeeFromVA | October 25, 2007, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Yet another reason NOT to vote for Obama. As if we needed more.
Posted by: Kristi | October 25, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Grumble, grumble, grumble. Anger, anger, anger. Posts like these demonstrate how clearly we deserve the corrupt and disfunctional government that we have. Blah, blah, blah.
Posted by: rmbell | October 25, 2007, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I love how the Dems are always the first to sink down to name calling and attacking their oponents, rather than simply learn to make their points and disagree. These bullying ways won’t win over many.
Posted by: fghk | October 25, 2007, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Gore/Obama IS the winning ticket .
Just listen to all the righties.. the very mention of Gore Obama throws them into uncontrollable tantrums.
Posted by: Dan | October 25, 2007, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Why is everyone afraid of Gore?
Is it because he won the most votes in 2000 and you guys are scared he will win again?
Go ahead and call everyone you disagree more names. It just makes you look stupid and Mr. Gore a hero.
Posted by: Larry | October 25, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am
I love how everyone is praising Nobel Prize winner Gore, but currently dragging James Watson through the mud. The public is so fickle–what makes one scientist’s (and I use that term very loosely) findings more truthful or accurate than another’s? Although that was a rhetorical question, I’ll hazard a response–it depends on how those findings make people feel inside.
Posted by: Jason | October 25, 2007, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Why was John Kerry “swift boated” one asks……get real, the dems NEVER rely on facts, just emotion…..Hey, Rangle wants a tax “surcharge” on the “rich” AND allow the Bush tax cuts to expire….ummmmm, sounds great! The flaw once again, don’t rely on facts, only emotion. Will cost jobs and revenue. As for Gore and his Noble prize, why did Gorbachev get one but Reagan didn’t? And Jimmy Carter? Please……a total joke that goes to show once again the Losers are Winners.
Posted by: kimmie | October 25, 2007, 11:48 am 11:48 am
I will never forget a video that Rush showed on his old TV show of Billy and Algore walking into the HALL OF PRESIDENTS at Monticello as the Enlightened Algore asked the guide, “Just who are some of these fellas?” regarding the busts of the former Presidents around the hall. The guide and Billy looked at him in disbelief. The guide said, “AH, Thats George Washington, and that’s Abraham Lincoln, etc…”. Al, go read the last chapter of “Chicken Little”. It was an apple, not the sky.
Posted by: keelerbee | October 25, 2007, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
The Clintons control the Dem party entirely. Howard Dean was derailed by the Clinton press machine over a stupid yodel. Kerry was unelectable, which is the way the Clinton’s wanted it, and why he received the Dem nomination. Clinton’s wanted Bush to win. If Kerry won, his VP would run 8 years later, and that was Hillary’s election. So, here we are. Biden gets no press at Hillary’s bequest, and Obama has too many questionable beliefs to possibly win.
As for Gore’s infomercial… We have data showing the Earth and Mars have been getting hotter, by the same percentages, over the last 50 years. We also know that during solar hot-spot and flare activities, which last hundreds of years, the earth traditionally gets hotter. Such hot-spots are happening now, and have been for 50 years. The fact that both Earth an Mars are tracking as getting hotter by percentage shows that it is a natural event, and not man made. Those of you who believe in Gore’s theories should see what he wants you to do about it, what it will cost you, and where that money goes. Get a marker and write “Follow me to Al’s wallet” on your cash. He’ll get a kick out of it.
Posted by: Don | October 25, 2007, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
The ticket would have only been Gore/Obama and not the other way around. The way ABC swift boated Gore at the 2000 Democratic National Convention it should surprise nobody that they post this upside down drivel.
Posted by: daddy | October 25, 2007, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
I was always dubious that the average IQ was 100. Judging by the number of responses I see on these politically charged blogs I am now convinced that I know in which political party the sub 100s reside.
fghk, please let the rest of us know how, on the first post on this blog calling Gore a joke, does not fall into the realm of “name calling” which you said (which the 100+ people know is false incidentally – - – nice O’Reilly Limbaugh-esque try though,) the “Dems are always the first to sink down to . . .?” Appears that the first incident of name calling came from a Republican to me but then I humbly must advise I DO fall into the 100+ category.
You have stated a very obvious lie. As one who actually HAS a degree in climatology (as opposed to meteorology who the whiners and haters like Hannity always cite,) I can tell you that Sponkos is incorrect calling global warming a fantasy.
I will say that we are not certain of the extent of Man’s influence, whether it is akin to throwing a cup of gas on a lit barbecue, or whether it is akin to throwing it onto a forest fire, or somewhere in between (probably), but only an ignorant person who believes what they want from the ignorant people they want to listen to, without their own study, will make comments like Sponkos.
“You are only half as smart if you do not KNOW both sides of the issue.” Try to learn both sides. Gore is okay. Doubtful if he would have taken as many of your liberties from you as the present administration. But, at least they made their cronies and buddies rich at your expense. If you like that kind of thing.
Oh, and the Obama and Osama intentional confusion thing? Good Lord(!) what kind of traitors are you folks? I have yet to see a 100+ IQ person do that, but that is probably the most un-American thing I have experienced in my 5 plus decades. Disgusting.
Posted by: Tom | October 25, 2007, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Wow, a lot of mouth-breathers on this comment board. Don’t forget to empty your drool cups!
Posted by: MIchael | October 25, 2007, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
UP FRONT:I usually vote Republican,that said,GORE on a ticket would be the 2nd best thing that happened to the Republicans.(The best thing would be to pick Hillary as the Demo nominee.)That self assured paternalism ,that little smirk!Frankly I thought that Obama was the smartest and most erudite of all the candidates on the Democratic side.Remember Gore did not even carry his home state of Tennessee in the last election.We knew him!All the (campaign) money in the world does not make a fool a smart person ,or a leader!
Posted by: steve taylor | October 25, 2007, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Once again, many of you are losing sight of the BIG picture. Why does it matter that his name is one letter away from a known terrorist’s? Is that the only validated “bad” thing you have to say? Why dont you educate your ignorance with factual knowledge of what the Sen. stands for and would like to fight for? If, then, you don’t agree, simply vote another way. Have you any idea how ignorant you sound when all your comments focus on knit-picky, half-hearted, trivial attacks on a name given at birth? Get real, and get a clue.
Posted by: Angela | October 25, 2007, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Wow. Is Obama trying to lose? Gore is about half a millimeter away from being exposed as the biggest huckster and scam artist American politics has ever seen.
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
I can’t believe how ignorant, moronic, and just plain stupid these global warming deniers are. Try reading some science books a little more and listening to Rush Limbugh a lot less. Oh wait that’s right you can’t read and the science is too complex for your tiny little mind to comprehend. Plus you think the world is only 6000 years old because that’s what the bible told you. Don’t pay any attention to scientific facts. It’s much easier for someone with a low IQ to believe in ancient biblical fairytales and superstitious mumbo jumbo. So just go to your happy place where you can parrot all your conservative heroes and their big buddy oil industry propagandists who have our government and the republican party in their back pockets.
Human activity in the form of CO2 and methane emmissions most certainly are the cause for global warming! I’m just glad I won’t be alive by 2100 when all of Greenland and half of Antarctica have melted and sea levels have risen by 50 feet. Enjoy your beachfront mansions when they’re under 40 feet of ocean water
Posted by: Greg | October 25, 2007, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Greg, here’s some science for you:
Water vapor dominates. It is responsible for 95 percent of the greenhouse effect.
Carbon dioxide, methane, nitrogen dioxide and other CFC’s contribute only 5 percent of the effect. Carbon dioxide is the greatest contributor from this group at 3.6 percent. Carbon dioxide as a result of man’s activities is only 3.2 percent of that.
That makes man’s contribution to the level of CO2 in the atmosphere 0.12 percent.
We couldn’t change the climate if we wanted to because water vapor dominates.
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Romney/Huckabee vs Obama/Gore?
God help us it would be close and wouldn’t really matter which schmucks won. I certainly wouldn’t bother to vote for either slate; it’s cold in November and why stand in line with a bunch of strangers at the beginning of flu season for that?
Posted by: anonymous | October 25, 2007, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
How did Obama get $1.6 million? Maybe by selling two best-selling books???
Posted by: JR | October 25, 2007, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
The blind leading the blind. This would be a real dream ticket for conservatives. Probably would never happen.
Posted by: Gary | October 25, 2007, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
“How did Obama get $1.6 million? Maybe by selling two best-selling books???”
Hey anonymous. Obama sold the books long after buying the house.
Posted by: John Romano | October 25, 2007, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Obama won’t be “swiftboated” if he doesn’t have anything to hide like Kerry did. Kerry’s problem was that he covered up his true persona, hence his swiftboat friends who came to the fore to remind us of the “real” Kerry.
Now for Hillary on the other hand there will be am armada of swiftboats starting with Wellesley!
Posted by: Grant | October 25, 2007, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
For Tacia. Talking to you people is like talking to a wall. What happens when all the permafrost melts and starts releasing mass quantities of methane (a much stronger greenhouse gas than CO2) into the atmosphere? What happens when the oceans get so warm that all the methane hydrate on the seafloor begins erupting from the ocean floor and filling the atmosphere with even more methane? What happens when there is so much CO2 in the atmoshphere that the oceans can’t absorb it all without becoming overly acidified from the buildup of carbonic acid in the water and subsequently the oceans become toxic to shell building organisms like corals and snails? That will really work out well for the food chain I’m sure, considering the fact that most fish either depend on these types of shell building animals for shelter (coral) or food.
Human beings most certainly are capable of altering the earths climate, it’s already happening. Once it really gets going in full force there are all sorts of repurcussions that will follow, such as the increased releases of methane into our atmosphere. Throughout the 600,000 year history of ice core samples taken from antarctica, CO2 levels have never been even close to as high as they are now and they just keep getting even higher every year. The earth can only take so much before it’s natural regulatory systems start going haywire.
Posted by: Greg | October 25, 2007, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Greg, you would have to have global warming happening already for all these situations to occur. You are putting the cart before the horse and then claiming the horse caused the cart to appear.
And you claim to have a degree in climatology?
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Politics as usual. Just vote. The rest is history.
Posted by: Larsinkima | October 25, 2007, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Al Gore had best hang onto all the money he has managed to make on his global warming fantasy over the past 10 years because if his “good friend” Hillary wins the presidency, taxation is going to go up to 75% in his tax bracket! One time to be glad you’re poor!
I’m sick of the whole lot of them – They are interested in only one thing – their own benefit. There are very few in the U.S. Congress who possess courage, dignity, intelligence or honor. And for doggone sure none of them is named Clinton, Obama, Biden, Paul, etc. I’d exempt Lieberman – he seems to be an honorable man and Kucinich is too stupid to be seriously venal! But too deluded to govern.
That’s the thing – they don’t understand that they “govern” at the will of the governed. They aren’t little tin gods!
Posted by: Gayle Miller | October 25, 2007, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
“Obama admitted that everyone was traumatized by what happened in the 2004 with Senator John Kerry but that his candidacy is different…”
TRAUMATIZED? LOL!!! Please! Those of us who know from personal experience what a putz John Kerry is rather enjoyed it. The only one traumatized was Kerry.
Posted by: D2Boston | October 25, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I never claimed to have a degree in climatology. I just read a lot of scientific publications and all the science is on my side here. As far as putting the cart before the horse, I am doing no such thing. Global warming is here, it’s happening right now, and the cause is a combination of the earth’s natural cycles and the effects of man’s fossil fuel burning activity. We’re in the early stages but it is happening, and if we don’t start curbing our emmissions significantly we will start a cascade effect of methane release that will not be reversible and will make all of this CO2 look like small potatoes in comparison.
Posted by: Greg | October 25, 2007, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Responding belatedly to John Romano’s post:
“TarHeel, what legislation has Obama sponsored that has passed in the US Senate?
Get your facts straight before writing your hero worship psalms here.”
I won’t even go into the fact that Senator Obama passed the biggest ethics reform in 25 years in the IL State Senate (can you imagine how difficult that is in Illinois?). I won’t detail how he brought law enforcement and civil rights groups to the table to overhaul the broken IL death penalty system that had sent 13 innocent people to death row, or that he expanded health insurance to 170,000 additional Illinoisans and their children. I won’t talk about expanding the Earned Income Tax Credit so people who work aren’t penalized by the tax code, or that he passed a bill requiring hospitals fill out report cards so that people know about their medical error rates and nurse to patient ratios and can make informed decision about their health care. I won’t get into those accomplishments, or any others that he had in his 8 years in Illinois, since you asked about the US Senate.
Well, let’s see. Senator Obama became the was appointed the point person on ethics and accountability for the Democrats because of his record in Illinois and teamed up with conservative Tom Coburn (R-OK) to pass transparency and accountability reform over the protests of both Republicans and even members of his own party. He worked with Russ Feingold (D-WI) to reveal lobbyists bundling and the influence of money in politics. He worked with Sam Brownback (R-KS) to toughen the US sanctions on the Sudanese government that is slaughtering its own citizens in Darfur. He worked with Chuck Hagel (R-NE) to secure loose nuclear materials around the world, and has worked with Dick Lugar (R-IN) to continue the provisions in Nunn-Lugar that also help dispose of loose nuclear weapons.
So, yes, let’s do get the FACTS straight. It is simply from a lack of effort and a closed mind that you don’t appreciate Obama for who he is. Call me a hero worshipper if you must. I’d say that my admiration for Senator Obama makes that about the only somewhat accurate part of your comment.
You have a choice America. Choose to close your minds and invoke mudslinging tactics, and you’ll deserve the divisiveness that you get. Take a day to actually look at which candidate believes what he is saying and has the judgment and courage to stand up for what is right for this country, even in the face of those who feel no sense of purpose for this country beyond their own petty interests, and you’ll get Barack Obama.
Posted by: TarHeel | October 25, 2007, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
No Greg, science is not on your side. Again:
Water vapor is responsible for 95 percent of the greenhouse effect. Carbon dioxide, methane, nitrogen dioxide and other CFC’s contribute only 5 percent of the effect. Carbon dioxide is the greatest contributor from this group at 3.6 percent. Carbon dioxide as a result of man’s activities is only 3.2 percent of that. That makes man’s contribution to the level of CO2 in the atmosphere 0.12 percent.
We do not contribute enough CO2 to the atmosphere to affect climate change, PERIOD. The numbers do not lie, nor do they have a political agenda.
Which is why the true believers will not debate the issue publicly and have been telling us ever since a POLITICIAN published a book that “the debate is over.”
Would you support a public debate involving climatologists on both sides of the issue? I for one, would welcome it with open arms.
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
You can spout unsourced percentages all you like, but you’re flat wrong, Tacia, on several points.
Water vapor is indeed the biggest greenhouse gas, but estimates put its contribution at 36-70%, not 95%.
CO2 is estimated at 9-26% worth of contribution.
Your numbers regarding percentage of CO2 due to human activity are also wrong.
CO2 concentration tends to be cyclical, ranging from 180ppm to 280ppm over the past 400,000 years (this cycle follows the Ice Age pattern).
Current CO2 is ~380ppm, however, and that rise of over 100ppm corresponds with the start of the Industrial Revolution. 100/380 is about 26.3 percent increase in CO2 due to human activity, far more than your dubious 3.2% number.
Worst-case overall would be {(0.26 * 9) to (0.26 * 26)} = {2.34 to 6.76%} increase in greenhouse gases due to human activity. Clearly substantial enough to see the temp increases of a few percentage points over the past century.
Posted by: BUSTER | October 25, 2007, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Buster, water vapor accounts for 95% of the greenhouse effect. Man’s contribution to the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere is not the same thing as a percentage increase. I can find no scientific support for these numbers you are throwing out.
But if you claim the numbers are in question, you could see why a public debate involving climatologists on both sides of the issue would be desirable.
Are you all for it? I am.
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Tacia your assertions are based on some seriously flawed reasoning and your numbers are dubious at best. Even if you were right about CO2 only contributing 3.6% to global warming, which is not an accurate figure, you are failing to take into account that everything we know about CO2 and its percentage contribution to the overall greenhouse effect is based upon total CO2 levels being confined to a very narrow range of between 180ppm to 280ppm. The industrial revolution of the last century has already increased that topline number of 280ppm to 380ppm. How much longer before we’re at 500ppm, 600ppm, 700ppm?
And like I said before, if we think CO2 is bad now, just wait for all this warming to trigger the explosive release of methane that’s in store for us down the road and you will have a whole new appreciation for the term heat wave.
According to the clathrate gun hypothesis a runaway greenhouse effect could be caused by liberation of methane gas from hydrates by global warming if there are sufficient hydrates close to unstable conditions. It has been speculated that the Permian-Triassic extinction event was caused by such a runaway effect. It is also thought that large quantities of methane could be released from the Siberian tundra as it begins to thaw, methane being 21times more potent a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.
The clathrate gun hypothesis states that as sea temperatures rise the sudden release of methane from methane clathrate compounds buried in the seabeds will cause a drastic alteration of the ocean environment and the atmosphere of earth, as recent analysis concerning the Permian extinction event indicates may have happened in the past.
Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate, is a form of water ice that contains a large amount of methane within its crystal structure. Extremely large deposits of methane clathrate have been found under sediments on the ocean floors of the Earth. The sudden release of large amounts of natural gas from methane clathrate deposits in a runaway greenhouse effect could be a cause of past and future climate changes. The release of this trapped methane is a potential major outcome of a rise in temperature; it is thought that this might increase the global temperature by an additional 5°C in itself, as methane is much more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.
Posted by: Greg | October 25, 2007, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
The numbers I quote are the same numbers accepted by the US Department of Energy and the EPA and are quoted as official statistics. These numbers are accepted and quoted in lectures by Dr. Wallace Boecker from Columbia University, a recognized authority on climate change, Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, Virginia State Climatologist and Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia and Dr. Richard S. Lindzen
Alfred P. Slone Professor of Meteorology at MIT.
If you could cite sources for your statistics so that I could research these numbers myself, I would appreciate it.
And once again, if there is disagreement and confusion regarding the actual data, wouldn’t a public debate involving climatologists on both sides of the issue be in all our best interest?
Posted by: Tacia | October 25, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Good gosh, so much bashing going on. THIS is why I’m voting for Obama. I’m tired of the bashing that keeps happening between the left and the right. We’re Americans and we need to unite and be proud of our country. We’re sinking while the rest of the world is passing us.
Vote Obama and bring about real change. You can say Barack Osama or Hussein Osama all you want, but it doesn’t matter. His father gave him a name and walked away, he’s proven himself a far greater man than his father and a far greater man than most other men. Obama for ’08. Take the corporate America out of the politics, they’re our leader.
Posted by: Phillip | October 25, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Obama was on the Larry King show just a few short weeks before he announced he would run for the office. Interesting how on the Larry King show he said that he wasn’t qualified to be President and then about 3 weeks later changed his mind. I have never seen that mentioned anywhere, wonder why? Nobody watches Larry King anymore?
Posted by: BB | October 25, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
I like Obama’s answer, that he would be a senior member on his administration — and I don’t necessarily think it’s VP — Obama would be a much better president for this country in a time of mending — Hillary is too much like Bush and there’s too much baggage that comes with her.
Posted by: Paulet | October 25, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Gore is a dope. Wasn’t it right after Katrina that Gore claimed that global warming was responsible for Katrina and warned of more hurricanes to come?
Well, two years later, the southeast is experiencing severe drought conditions. and for the uninformed, it is the normal late summer / fall hurricanes that proivide a significant amount of the rainfall in the southeast.
The Dope can’t have it both ways. Either global warming is responsible for increased hurricanes which bring significant rainfall to the southeast or it is causing the drought in the southeast. And today, Harry Reid is claiming global warming is the cause for the California wildfires. He obviously is smoking crack these days.
Posted by: John | October 25, 2007, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Obama-Gore?? Close but just a tad wrong. I’ve been predicting for 6 months that Al Gore is going to run for president and ask Obama to be his running mate. That’s assuming none of his children get arrested for drugs agian and the next Ice Age doesnt kick in the is winter.
Posted by: Hotguy | October 25, 2007, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Umm, this is an awful lot of comments to not notice that Gore is 100% completely ineligible to run as anyone’s VP, having already served 2 terms. He is still eligible to run for President. President of Junk Science that Only Appears to Be Science to people who don’t know a cumulus cloud from a clot of snot but think their secular, totalitarian Marxism makes them all-knowing, that is. Giant explosions of methane? If this didn’t happen when Antarctica was a tropical jungle and the earth had 40% oxygen in its atmosphere, how could this happen now? Please feel free to cite any and all actual, verifiable scientific sources with links to hard data backing this all up–in fantasyland. This is also a lot of comments to not notice Gore’s globo-warming lunacy is simply an excuse to rid the world of billions of “useless eaters”, much like in the Ukraine 70 years ago, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, and Darfur, where millions have been massacred for the profits of Petro-China, which being owned by the Peoples Liberation Army is naturally 100% immune to even the slightest mention in enviro-hysteria…
Posted by: Constitutional Semi-scholar | October 25, 2007, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Sometimes I find mainstream news articles frustrating to read, but comment sections like this one are absolutely frightening and I think they must be for everybody. I think many of these comments are insane. It feels like I accidentally walked into a room full of deluded bigots who keep pushing an us-against-them agenda based on some bitter and foggy principal. What’s so much more important to you than making sure we’re not destroying the planet? What makes you so violently dismissive about the delicate balance of the ecosystem and the history of our species? You may not believe in evolution. I just really hope it doesn’t believe in you.
Posted by: martha.s | October 27, 2007, 2:45 am 2:45 am
When did it become a crime to bear a certain name. Bush has been creating an atmosphere of fear, and hate. And Mitt Romney continues in this fashion to create fear in the minds of Americans by trying to link Obama with Osama when there’s obviously no connection.
Moreover Obama has tactfully said that Al has been VP twice and his return is not likely
Posted by: k | October 30, 2007, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Wow.
And here I’d always been taught that, if you grew up in America, you could aspire to be anything you wanted to be, and that doors were open to you.
Apparently this only applies if you have the right name (one that doesn’t rhyme with a terrorist’s) and the right religion (NOT Muslim).
Some of you could do with revisiting 5th grade civics class.
Posted by: J | October 31, 2007, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Constitutional Semi-scholar — Of course Gore could be appointed VP if it came to that (highly doubtful, IMO)! The Constitution does not stipulate limitations on the number of terms a VP can serve as VP. Gore’s two previous terms with President Clinton are completely irrelevant to this discussion. I think what you’re referring to is the limit of 2 consecutive 4-year terms for the President (with a maximum of 10 total years, for example, if a VP must assume presidency midway through a 4 year VP term due to death, illness, etc. of the President). That being said, I’ll reserve comment on the remainder of your post.
Posted by: TOMWALK | March 23, 2008, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Gore should come out for Obama immediately – which, I think – push him to win the nomination. A 1-2 punch of Gore and Edwards’ endorsements would do the trick quite nicely. I think it would be payback for Gore, since he loathes the Clintons, and they loathe him. He still blames them for spoiling his White House chances…especially Hillary. Perhaps Obama should ask Edwards to sign on as his running mate. There are many tricks available to Obama if he seizes the opportunity. With the Clintons at his tail, he should proceed with urgency…the fierce urgency of now.
Posted by: faye dolan | March 30, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
To the person that said Gore was pathetic for his film and getting the noble prize? Excuse me, but I think your President who still has not done a single credible forward thinking initiative as leader of the ” greatest country in the free world” for the environment. Imagine if Gore was President – oh wait he was the one with the most votes – what USA??? not a democracy ? Look who is pathetic. Nothing wrong with taking the environment seriously.
Posted by: John Aussie | June 21, 2008, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
aadad
Posted by: Rick Galindo | July 31, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Here’s the bottom line: AMERICA NEEDS A NEW GUARD. The old guard had their chance and look where that got us? Enough is enough. Obama brings about a fresh and energetic perspective to our country; especially the younger generations. Something that has not been felt since JFK. Americans expect too much from government. Government will not fix our problems only we can. A government should only do what it can to create the atmosphere needed for Americans to prosper. And it is up to Americans to make sure government is following this mandate by voting and coming together to protest when needed. I am tired of our great democracy looking like a great hypocrisy. Bring our troops home and put them where they are needed: looking for Bin Laden in Afghanistan. This so-called surge in Iraq? Yes it is working, hello! I mean put more police on the streets crime goes down, but take them off the streets crime goes up: same concept. We jump into Iraq first to find Al-Quida, then to find WMD’s, then to build a nation? So what’s the truth? What about Darfur? Somalia? Libya in the 80′s? North Korea? Iran? Or the many questionable governments that have oppressed its people for countless decades now? Billions being spent in Iraq, but Americans are losing their homes? Their jobs? The U.S. forgives foreign debts owed to the U.S., but we straggle Americans who are financially in turmoil? I respect Mr. McCain very very much and I appreciate his service to our country, but honestly, he is the old guard with old guard ideals. Enough! Go Obama!!
Posted by: Rick Galindo | July 31, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am