By Jennifer Parker

Oct 23, 2007 1:27pm

What is Hillary implying about Mississippi?

Check out this new column by David Yepsen in the Des Moines Register.

In it, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, suggests that one of the reasons she’s not doing as well in Iowa as she is nationally or in other states is because she’s a woman and Iowa has "never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress."

She says that’s the case with Mississippi, too.

But then she seems to imply she’s not surprised that’s the case down South, but given the "quality," "openness" and "communitarianism" of Iowa she is surprised that’s the case in Iowa.

Hard not to read that as a slam on Mississippi.

"I was shocked when I learned Iowa and Mississippi have never elected a woman governor, senator or member of Congress," she said. "There has got to be something at work here…

"I think not only do I have to bring people to me, I have to maybe reassure people here maybe more than I do in New Hampshire, which has had a woman governor…

"I think Iowa poses a special burden, or a special obstacle to me because when you look at the numbers, how can Iowa be ranked with Mississippi? That’s not what I see. That’s not the quality. That’s not the communitarianism, that’s not the openness I see in Iowa."

Doesn’t that sound like she’s saying she expects Mississippi to be backward but not Iowa?

I asked Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer about this. His response: "Clearly, she was referring to the historical fact that a woman has never been elected Governor or to the House or Senate from those states."

Uh…right.

What do you think?

- jpt

User Comments

Hilary is trying to play the role of Victim, so she can blame her losing in those states and others on her gender not on the fact she is incompetent and dishonest. The Libs do not like the south at all, one calls them racists and the other calls them anti-female.
Can anyone say Victim-hood?

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

this is an issue because…??? Mississippi is a socially progressive state?

Posted by: cordelia525 | October 23, 2007, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

Maybe Hillary isn’t counting on Mississippi’s 6 electoral votes come November 2008. Jimmy Carter won Mississippi. So did George Wallace.

Posted by: reyonthehill | October 23, 2007, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

If you were to ask 100 politically savvy, honest people whether they would expect a woman member of the Democratic party to get a better hearing in Iowa or in Mississippi, 100 people would say Iowa. While it’s mildly surprising to hear a candidate say it, it’s hardly controversial.

Posted by: DKNY | October 23, 2007, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

I guess Mississippi is smarted than Hillary thinks. They waiting for a real woman to run for office. Not a clown like her.

Posted by: Andy | October 23, 2007, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

spock: You are so right on. The libs have made it abundantly known that they don’t like the south.

Posted by: Getalife | October 23, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Can anyone say Victim-hood? and Hypocrisy!
Imagine this if a Republican woman running stated the same thing, I bet libs would be condemning it! Better yet if a Republican man said he could win because he is a male the lib media would crucify him.
But a Lib says something like this and you get oh maybe shes right, I feel sorry for her/him and so on.
Is anyone really surprised?
Whats Obama going to say tomorrow?

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

You can’t argue with the facts.The South has yet to elect a black senator, either. How do you explain that?

Posted by: April Campbell | October 23, 2007, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Mississippi has had two woman lt. gov. during the past 20 or so years. So what if no women choose to run for governor, senator or representative? Means women are smart enough to see a bunch of backstabbing and cry-babies to not get involved!

Posted by: ETM | October 23, 2007, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Play the role of the victim?? I am a liberal and I like the south. Why we we feel sorry for Clinton because of the comments she made. Facts speak for themselves in this case. Has Mississippe elected females to office? What’s so wrong with her bringing up facts. I also don’t think Hillary is the type of personality to blame a feel sorry for me game. She doesn’t need to. I think what scares a lot of people is that is a woman and a strong woman at that. It isn’t just the south that needs to come into the 21st century.

Posted by: adamskr | October 23, 2007, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Sorry about the typos. Typing has never been my strong suit.

Posted by: adamskr | October 23, 2007, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

She’s correct, no woman has been elected Gov. in the state of Mississippi. But she is omitting the fact that we’ve elected 2 women to the office of Lt. Gov. in recent history – one is currently in office. The position in our state is almost as powerful as the Gov. Those 2 women were elected as Democracts – in a largely Republican state. Looks like we do look past gender and party here in Mississippi after all. As far as electing a woman to the House or Senate, we had a very qualified woman run for a House seat as a Republican against incumbent Demo. Bennie Thompson and she lost the race. Using Hils own argument it seems like the Demos are the ones who want to hold women back in Mississippi.

Posted by: Shawn McLamore | October 23, 2007, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

How stupid does she think we are. Hillary is playing the “gender” card just like some play the “race” card. Oh yeah, that’ll get all the “females” out there behind her (not) and make Mississippi want to be just like Iowa or make Iowa feel they are so much better than Mississipi(or whatever Hill’s objective is at the time. Man, what a manipulator! Being female I would LOVE to see a female become president some day but NOT HILLARY AND NOT JUST BECAUSE SHE HAPPENS TO BE FEMALE. There are more important things to base an opinion on than race or gender.

Posted by: LetsKeepItReal | October 23, 2007, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I’m sorry, but we have to be willing to be honest about our candidates. Hillary likes to have it all ways. “I know about bad men”; “Elect me and make history”; “I’m not just running as a woman”; “I’m not doing well in Iowa or Mississippi because I’m a woman”. If you want to use the “glass ceiling” to get elected then you have to carry the baggage that comes with that decision better. Obama gets criticized repeatedly for not having more of the Black vote. His response is always consistent. “I need to earn their votes just like everyone else.” He never blames the people. It’s time Hillary puts on her big girl panties and earn the votes in Iowa.

Posted by: RealB.G. | October 23, 2007, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

April Campbell – funny thing Mississippi had 2 Black Governors alone – both Republicans Do you want a list of the others?
Where are the northern ones?
Louisiana had a Woman governor
Just a side note here there have been more Republican Woman in office of Governor then Democrats.

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Having grown up in Mississippi, I KNOW what a backwards place it is. Iowa is hardly progressive, but Mississippi is by far more sexist, racist, and homophobic.

Posted by: Clay | October 23, 2007, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Condaliza Rice needs to run , then we will have a brilliant woman running for President!

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Mississippi is an embarassment of a state and does not compare with Iowa. The mid-southern states like Mississippi and Louisiana are swamps infested with rat-like people with minds to match. Mississippi also has the distinction of being one of the ugliest of the United States.

Posted by: boondoggler | October 23, 2007, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

I would not mind electing a woman President I have no problem with it. The only problem I have is electing Hillery Clinton Persident please vote for and body but her. James , KY a Southern state that has elected Women in fact we sent the first women to congress.

Posted by: James | October 23, 2007, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

like dr. evil, condi may be smart, but she uses her mind for stupid purposes….like getting our soldiers killed and helping terrorism….

Posted by: chris | October 23, 2007, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

What Woman governor did Iowa have?
Libs love to try to divide this country!
Lets see Clinton will have a hard time winning a state, well blame on being a woman, not her incompetence
Congress has lowest approval rating blame the press (which is sad because it is their own liberal press) not their total incompetence
Kerry loses the election blame the people who brought out the truth about him, not the fact of what he did, nor the fact it had nothing to do with him losing.
Libs never take responsibility, they play the race, gender or social card!

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Where are the terrorists being helped? please explain the facts!

Posted by: spock | October 23, 2007, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

truth of the matter is, Senator Clinton is the best choice for President, as she is the best equipped and prepared candidate out there to protect and lead our soldiers, fight terrorists, reclaim America’s place as the greatest county in the world, reinvigorate our international relationships (which will also help us defeat terrorism), strengthen our Constitution, strengthen our domestic economy, give our children a safer and more prosperous future and help to clean up and strengthen the environmental laws to protect the future of all our children…..if you love your children, if you care about our troops, if you want terrorism defeated: Vote for Clinton

Posted by: chris | October 23, 2007, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

by using her charm and wit to support the invasion of iraq….thereby giving terrorists land and opportunities from which to launch attacks and recruit….she’s smart enough to have done what is right for America…instead, she opted for what is right for dumbya and their contributors….

Posted by: chris | October 23, 2007, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Mississippi’s history speaks for itself. The state is backwards. Didn’t they just officially make slavery illegal in the ’90′s? If Clinton expects this type of behvior out of Mississippi, she has good reason to.

Posted by: Erika | October 23, 2007, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

i thought her subtle observation of mississippi was an understatement… let’s face it, mississippi is not a bastion of progress… that’s not to say all the people there are bad or rednecks, just the ones leading… or being sent to lead

Posted by: earthnotflat | October 23, 2007, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

“communitarianism”???? WTH?
They really need to stop making up new words. There are a lot of people who haven’t mastered their, they’re and there yet. Communitarianism? Come on.

Posted by: Momvar | October 23, 2007, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Actually there HAVE been two African-American U. S. Senators from the South. And BOTH men were ironically from Mississippi:
(1) Hiram Rhodes Revels served in the U. S. Senate from Feb 23, 1870 to Mar 3, 1871 — the first African-American to serve in Congress. He filled the last year of an unexpired term of Sen. Adelbert Ames. NOTE: This seat had been held by Jefferson Davis, the former President of the Confederate States of America.
(2) Blanche Kelso Bruce served in the U. S. Senate from Mar 4, 1875 to March 3, 1881. NOTE: The same seat as above.
It is worth noting, however, that these men were elected to the Senate by the Mississippi State Legislature. All Senators were elected by their respective state legislatures prior to the ratification of the 17th Amendment in 1913.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

That’s OK…NY has never elected a female Senator either! LOL!!!

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I have it on good authority that Mississippi is one of the United States of America. Actual Americans live there. Sorry if that bothers you.
For those of you that get upset because you think Billy Bob and Swampy fall asleep every night smiling through green teeth knowing their vote counts as much as yours…they do.
I hear Mississippi has done a wonderful job recovering from Katrina. Who is the govenor there?

Posted by: flyover | October 23, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Oh and the krap about the Iraq vote – no one mentions in the same breath with Hilary and Iraq war vote the esteemed name of GWB who along with his minions were knowingly LYING to everyone to convince them that Iraq was on the verge of destroying the world with WMDs.

Posted by: Momvar | October 23, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

I THINK YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ALOT OF PEOPLE. I CAN’T IMAGINE WHY. HAS EVERYBODY FORGOTTEN WHO WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OFFICE WITH OUR 50% VOTER TURN OUT RATE. ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE ON THE ATTACK BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE IS WINNING. SORRY! GO HILLARY!

Posted by: Frank Cullen | October 23, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Chris: Regarding your posting of 4:28pm…while well written, it has nothing to back it up. I would challenge you to provide one piece of evidence to back up the claims you have made regarding Ms. Clinton’s qualifications to be president.

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Vote for anyone but Hillary. Down with the Clintons

Posted by: JohnnyBoy | October 23, 2007, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

spock: Libs will never take responsiblity for their own actions as long as there is someone to blame. It’s all about politics and power, nothing to do with integrity. Libs are weathervanes in the wind pointing a different direction each time the wind changes direction. We need a compass, someone who will point due north regardless of the weather. Regardless of what people say, GWB is a compass. He has never changed his position on terrorism regardless of public opinion. Libs have flip flopped so many times I can’t keep up. I’m a former democrat who’s finally seen the party for who it is…spinners, slanderers and political knivers…with no values!

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Hey, Momvar, communitarianism is a word. You are dumb and Hillary is smart. She knew the word off the top of her heard, you couldn’t figure out it was real with a computer six inches from your face. Again, you dumb, Hillary smart.

Posted by: DKNY | October 23, 2007, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

HILLARY IS THE SAME HILLARY SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND IOWA IS SEEING RIGHT THRU HER. SHE WANTS IT HER WAY, SHE WANTS THE POWER, SHE HAS ALREADY SAID SHE WANTS MORE OF YOUR TAXES. IF RICE WAS RUNNING WE WOULD HAVE A “NON-POWER HUNGRY” COMPETENT CANDIDATE THAT WOULD APPEAL TO DEMS AND REPUBS ALIKE. AND SHE HAS HAD MAJOR MGMT RESPONSIBILITY AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY.

Posted by: HERM HARDING | October 23, 2007, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

My hope is that Giuliani, Romney, McCain, Thompson and Huckabee will split the Republican delegates so that none will have a majority. Then during the Republican National Convention the delegates will draft Dr. Condoleezza Rice as the Party nominee. And I would really love it if she would subsequently selected Sen. Joseph Lieberman to be her running mate.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2007, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Main Entry:
com·mu·ni·tar·i·an Listen to the pronunciation of communitarian
Pronunciation:
\kə-ˌmyü-nə-ˈter-ē-ən\
Function:
adjective
Date:
circa 1909
: of or relating to social organization in small cooperative partially collectivist communities
— communitarian noun
— com·mu·ni·tar·i·an·ism Listen to the pronunciation of communitarianism \-ē-ə-ˌni-zəm\ noun
So as Hillary would say “It takes a village to manage your life.” “Give me the POWER”

Posted by: JohnnyBoy | October 23, 2007, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Good lord. She’s just telling it like it is. When you look at the Red states vs the Blue states, you can see where the nation’s intellect is most concentrated and it isn’t in Miss.

Posted by: Ed | October 23, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

I am from Mississippi and very proud of it. I think these comments about Mississippi are uncalled for. First of all don’t talk about our state untill you have been here long enough to see our true colors. Racism is throught our country. Every person deals with racism in some sort and fashion. Someone’s color is not the only tipe of racism, there religion, location, etc. Why some of you are racist just by saying we are a sexist, racist, and homophobic state. You don’t know what we are really about. Yes some people here have issues but doesn’t everyone!!! I am a woman and will not vote for Hillary. Not because she is a woman it’s because i do not believe she realy knows what she wants to do. We need a President that will do what they think is best for our country and not let everyone else change there minds.

Posted by: Amanda | October 23, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Hillary just lost Mississippi.

Posted by: jade02008 | October 23, 2007, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

If you read Hillary’s quotes carefully enough, you begin to get a clear picture of her personality and character; perhaps even some idea of where she stands on certain issues. Once you figure her out, you realize what a nightmare it would be if she were to lead our country. Perceptive, intelligent voters will pay close attention to her during this campaign– and will then just say “NO” to Hillary in 2008.

Posted by: dks0442 | October 23, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

DKNY: Of course she knew that word off the top of her head…that’s what she want to do to this country…turn it communist! She is a Marxist…open your eyes!

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

DKNY,yeah but it’s a dumb word.
But she knew the word “off the top of her heard” – you really need to clean up your own house, jerk.

Posted by: Momvar | October 23, 2007, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

How many women have ran for office in Miss? How many were more qualified and lost to less qualified men. You can’t just take one statistic (i.e. NYC has never had a Japanese-American mayor) and automatically assume it’s the result of active discrimination.
If you take a little swipe at an entire state, you at least need to back it up with more evidence.

Posted by: Chris S | October 23, 2007, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Ah,the last refuge, pointing out a typo in a web posting. My posting showed that I am a poor typist, yours showed that you are uneducated and unable to use a dictionary.

Posted by: DKNY | October 23, 2007, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

DKNY,yeah but it’s a dumb word.
But she knew the word “off the top of her heard” – you really need to clean up your own house, jerk. When I need you to assess my intelligence – oh, never mind, that won’t be happening.
PS – I’m somewhat of a Hilary fan but you’re getting me to rethink that – if I have to be in the same demographic with the likes of you. EEEWWWWW.

Posted by: Momvar | October 23, 2007, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Well, I think I would be implying that the states in question seem to have either overt or covert efforts to not encourage women to lead in their government. One might seem more progressive than another but the result is the same.

Posted by: Diana | October 23, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

To all democrats: As a former democrat, I beg you to look at the candidates objectively. Put party affiliation aside and look at character. The democrats don’t have positions based on values, they sway to public opinion and what will benefit them the most. John Edwards consulted with political strategists before voting on the authorization to use force in Iraq. What happened to right and wrong? Let’s face it, Hillary is not qualified to run a grocery store, let alone a country (this coming from a former supporter). Please put political biases aside and look at what will be best for our country…not your ego.

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

If you’re from Miss, please don’t be offended by general statements. They are not personal attacks against you or everyone in Miss. I live in Texas so I’m used to it. People think we “drive” horses to work. Not the brightest state in the country as a whole but…with Bush in Washington, the state’s average IQ goes up quite a bit. If the governor would move to DC, it would go up even higher. Maybe we’d be equal to Miss. or Ala. :) Chill folks.

Posted by: Ed | October 23, 2007, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

If she was really so concerned about no female representation from Mississippi, then why didn’t she run for Senate from Mississippi rather than from New York?

Posted by: gads2000 | October 23, 2007, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

gads2000: She never would have won in Mississippi…not enough blinded people to elect a lib.

Posted by: Brenda | October 23, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

The truth is she had spokeperson speaking about education and how california ranked with a certain state(not to metion anyone or state) at the bottom of the education poll. I was there when the speech when made 10/22/07, fresno, california that is the truth of the matter.

Posted by: Matt | October 23, 2007, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Mississippi has female state representatives,and has elected two female Lt Governors. The current Lt Governor, Amy Tuck,is highly regarded (at least by me)and will probably run for Governor in 2011. She may well win.
Mississippi tends to elect representaives “for life”, wanting to preserve its seniority on Congressional Committees that can help the state. Our Congressional turnover is low. If a female is elected to Congress,she will be “for life” as well.

Posted by: Dick Younger | October 23, 2007, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

you based a posting on the assertion that “communitarianism” is some new word or some made up word. That was wrong. That makes you look very foolish.
And I am not a Hillary supporter (by the way, Hillary has 2 “l’s,” not 1, as you have been writing).

Posted by: DKNY | October 23, 2007, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

jade02008: As to Hillary losing the state of MS based on these statemnts, um, what world do you live in? She never had a chance in MS. I know, I live in MS. Hillary, if she is the Dem’s nominee, will not get a majority of the vote here. No Democrat will. That is a sad fact of life here.

Posted by: Rebecca | October 23, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Oh, surely Mrs. Clinton wouldn’t play the gender card! She wouldn’t take advantage of her sex to get votes. She wouldn’t manipulate. Her election is all about power for her and for the feminists. If men think that she will rule equally for them as well as women they are as naive as I think that they have become. Men, you deserve what you are going to get.

Posted by: Gary | October 23, 2007, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

In a speech back in May of this year, Sen. Hillary Clinton said the following:
“It’s time to replace an ‘on your own’ society with one based on shared responsibility and prosperity.”
“I prefer a ‘we’re all in it together’ society, I believe our government can once again work for all Americans. It can promote the great American tradition of opportunity for all and special privileges for none.”
“Fairness doesn’t just happen. It requires the right government policies.”
Sen. Hillary Clinton and the Far Left want to revitalize the Hammer and Sickle.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Who cares what a yankee feminist from Chicago thinks about Mississippi.

Posted by: Gary | October 23, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Brett Favre’s from Miss and he’s achieved more greatness on a below-freezing Sunday afternoon than Hillary ever could in her entire life.

Posted by: Chris S | October 23, 2007, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Isn’t Mississippi one the states where she switches on her phony southern drawal when she’s speaking to the residents?

Posted by: dgfiit | October 23, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I am the individual who referred to Mississippi as “racist, sexist, and homophobic.” You questioned my knowledge of the state. Please try actually reading a post before commenting. As I stated, I grew up in Mississippi. I lived there for 40 years before escaping. I have been out of that backwater dump for 8 years now, but I still visit occasionally as I have family and friends there. I am all too familiar with Mississippi and stand by my comments: sorry, but it IS one of the most racist, sexist, and homophobic places in the US. (And by the way, one cannot be “racist” against a STATE.)

Posted by: Clay | October 23, 2007, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

I think half the population is women. I don’t think the question should be ‘is it wrong to imply Miss is backwards”….I’d argue you to come with any other explaination BESIDES that they are backwards???? do they not have one single intelligent women who was qualified in all their history????? is that it??? their women are just too dumb? YOu tell us. What IS the reason??

Posted by: Dennis Manning | October 23, 2007, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

Hillary Clinton’s comments are better than the comments delivered by Ronald Reagan in Philadelphia, Mississippi, during his campaign for President in 1980. Rather than reflecting somberly on the deaths of three civil rights workers in the 1960s in that very place, he chose to speak about “states’ rights.” That, my friends, is what we call coded language. That speech initiated his campaign. Despicable.

Posted by: allrightwithme | October 23, 2007, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Good old Hillary, stuck the foot in the mouth once again. Next thing you know she will take up cigars. Is this the best we can do in this great country? All of you , republicans and democrats need to ask that question, is this the best we can do?

Posted by: bill longdick | October 23, 2007, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

Isn’t the “Noose” the de facto symbol of Missisipi state ? Worry not, the wrath of God will rain down on that state soon. Katrina didn’t quite straigtened them out.

Posted by: adam | October 23, 2007, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

With Mississippi being the fattest state in the union, they haven’t elected any fat people either ! WHAT A BUNCH OF RACISTS !

Posted by: kenny | October 23, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

I think it’s funny that people from the north who move to Mississippi always say it is nothing like they expected. (Granted they don’t move to the delta since it is strictly agricultural). Also, racist? I’ve talked to numerous people who have lived up north all of their lives who say that people there are more racist. If MS is so racist, why are there so many black people still here?

Posted by: amory | October 23, 2007, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Hmm… Wish we could get some Iowa and Mississippi koolaid out here in pantie waste land known as WA.
We’ve got a woman gov & two women senators. They’ve not done much for WA other than make the price of gas higher, taxes higher, more and more regulations, fought the death tax repeal, etc, etc.
Fine print on this is not that these are women, rather they are Democrats… One way or the other, there’s plenty of lemmings out here who love em to the point of following them anywhere…

Posted by: Fred | October 23, 2007, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

I think a vote for anyone but Hillary would be an “obama-nation” … let’s face it, the Clintons are smart people … it’s a fact .. live with it!!

Posted by: Hank | October 23, 2007, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

Hey, Louisiana elected a woman Governor.(Blanco)
Look what happened.
Who cares what Hillary says. She will say or do anything for a vote.

Posted by: xiores 345 | October 23, 2007, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

And after watching Ellen’s meltdown over a dog, are we really sure a woman has the emotional stability to be the Commander in Chief? I kid, I kid…but not really.

Posted by: Chris S | October 23, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

Hillary is scary and smart. She is not doing well in Iowa because people there see through her…she’s the kind of person–male or female–that parents teach their kids not to become in Mississippi. So, she pulls out the gender card, as if to say folks who don’t vote for her are throwing in with those sexists in Iowa and Mississippi. That’s smart. Scary??–the things she really believes. People in Iowa and Mississippi seem to have figured that out before the rest of us. Perhaps they’re smarter in those states than some urban folks give them credit for.

Posted by: SteveW | October 23, 2007, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

A vote for Hillary is a vote for business as usual in Washington. Don’t kid yourself. Hillary and Bill are part of the establishment. The only difference is they will be telling the libs what they want to hear. Look at the Democractic controlled congress. There is no consensus among the Democracts. They can’t get anything done. We are at a time in our history when we need a leader who is going to bring the american people and our government together to make thoughtful, innovative, decisions about policy and our future. I don’t see a candidate out there who is prepared to deal in much more than pandering to political favors. It’s heart breaking.

Posted by: Bill | October 23, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

The thought of Hillary Clinton becoming the next President of the United States scares me to death. She is a power hungry, cold, high-society female who has no concept of the real world. And as for those who spoke out of sheer ignorance to bash the state of Mississippi, you are yourselves racist. I’ve been all over the U.S. and never have I met people as friendly, neighborly, intelligent, and hospitable as in Mississppi. Racism has many facets and all of you bashers exhibited one facet of it. I pray everyday Hillary never becomes President. This comment is just one example of how she doesn’t live in the real world.

Posted by: Laura | October 23, 2007, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm

1) Sen. Clinton isn’t playing the victim: she never does. She’s pointing out a perfectly reasonable explanation for why she isn’t doing as well in Iowa as in the national polls. Sen. Clinton has said that she needs to earn every vote so often that it should be her campaign song. It’s simply true that the fact that most states have never had a female governor or senator makes it harder to elect the first female President of the United States.
2) When Sen. Edwards had his wife imply that he couldn’t raise money for his campaign because of all the donations made to Senators Clinton and Obama only because of her gender and his race, was he vicariously playing the victim?
(3) James Danley: as I expected, those two Republican African-American Senators were elected during RECONSTRUCTION. Apart from being over a century ago, Reconstruction was the one moment in time before the modern Civil Rights Movement when racism in Mississippi was not allowed to reign unchecked. However, it’s gratifying to hear of Mississippi’s two female Lt. Governors.

Posted by: dawn | October 23, 2007, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

A smart political move by Clinton. Internal polling probably shows that Democratic voters in Iowa do not like their state being compared to deep southern states. They feel “we are trying, to make the state more progressive, however there is such an equal balance between democrats and republicans in the state that it hasnt quite happened yet.. The Clinton campaign is pressing for a response among democrats,” No is our chance. This again, is a democratic caucus. They also feel a comment like this will not hurt her in Iowa in the General because they probably calculated that Guiliani will be the nominee and he is likely to come in fourth or fifth in the Iowa Caucus! Iowa republicans will have a hard time voting for Rudy on the Pro-choice issue in the General. Hillary’s campaign is one of the best I have seen in along, long time (FDR)!

Posted by: Sageofpolitics | October 23, 2007, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Dawn, you wrote: “Sen. Clinton isn’t playing the victim: she never does.” I beg to differ. She certainly has blamed the “vast Right-wing Conspiracy” for most of the negatives that have appeared in the press for her and Bill over the years.
Now as for my comment regarding the two African-American senators, I was only correcting another individual’s statement that the South has yet to elect an African-American senator. But since these two African-Americans from Mississippi graced the halls of the U. S. Senate, there have been only THREE subsequent African-American U. S. Senators: Sen. Edward William Brooke III (R-MA) 1967-1979 — the first African-American senator to be elected by popular vote; Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL) 1993-1999; and Sen. Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2005-present. Its interesting that the only two Democrats are from Illinois — Sen. Hillary Clinton’s birthplace. And the only other African-American senator from a blue state was a Republican. Some record for the Democrats to tout!

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2007, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Hillary should be complaining about much more important things than our state having not elected a woman. SO WHAT?? We’re almost 9 trillion in debt and in a horrible tragic war and about to get in another! What does an female congressman have to do with anything!!

Posted by: Jeff | October 23, 2007, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

Boo hoo hoo, they won’t vote for me because I’m a woman, she says. Get off it lady and be honest with yourself. Southern and Midwestern folks are plain and simple and if they don’t vote for you it’s because they DON’T LIKE YOU, plain and simple. Deal with it.

Posted by: genlin | October 23, 2007, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

What she is saying is true. Can’t you conservatives understand the truth? Stop trying to misinterpret her words.

Posted by: Fred Howze | October 23, 2007, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

Why is it that we must always prove that we’re not discriminating? You can’t prove a negative anyway. People can vote for whom they want. If you’re not happy with it Hillary, deal with it. I will not vote for Hillary because she’s conniving, cunning, deceptive, calculating, devious, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, dishonest, mendacious, beneath contempt, immoral, and full of crap.

Posted by: thatsthewayitis | October 23, 2007, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

Fred, you wrote: “Can’t you conservatives understand the truth? Stop trying to misinterpret her words.” I did not misinterpret April’s words. She wrote: “You can’t argue with the facts. The South has yet to elect a black senator, either. How do you explain that?” Based on what she has since written, it is clear that she intended to say that the South has not elected a black senator by popular vote since Reconstruction. Now if you want to accuse me of misinterpreting what she intended or meant to say, I proudly claim my guilt.

Posted by: James Danley | October 23, 2007, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Hillary can’t win on issues so she plays the gender card. Sorry lady, most of us are smart enough to see through that. I don’t care if a woman is elected president, just not that woman. The next election is as simple as ABC. Anyone But Clinton.

Posted by: Royce | October 24, 2007, 12:40 am 12:40 am

What difference does it make? As if there was any chance of Mississippi going blue next year. Very typical Hillary. By the way, Mrs. Clinton, you’re not from NY. These folks were your longtime neighbors. Get over yourself.

Posted by: tommyboy092371 | October 24, 2007, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Sorry guys… Hillary WILL be the next president… Why? Because most women will vote for her just because she is a woman… For you women (or men) who think she will make a good president… you better hope you never require any kind of serious medical procedure or for you women you better hope you never get pregnant… because if you ever did, you would find yourself going into Mexico to get PROPER medical treatment. Hillary care will be a disaster.

Posted by: Carl | October 24, 2007, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Carl: Your scare tactic regarding Hillary’s proposed healthcare is pathetic, considering that 50 million american CITIZENS currently have NO healthcare whatsoever. THat’s 1 in 6 Americans. Also, know what’s scary too? That medical bills are the number one reason for bankruptsy and high debt in the U.S.

Posted by: m | October 24, 2007, 5:43 am 5:43 am

Insurance companies have NO competition right now.

Posted by: m | October 24, 2007, 5:53 am 5:53 am

Hillary Clinton was saying don’t use a comparison MODEL(Iowa-Mississippi)/but just consider the female advantages of politics OVER-what/considering the news story it seems that Iowa politics is of a male-encounter..maybe there’s a encounter in Iowa that women actually need to be(there in that place)..I personally don’t know..the most direct spoken words have been that Hillary Clinton HAS NEVER/run a City-a Company-any kind of people place..she’s a novice I quess in the argument..listening to how Hillary Clinton will look at America for the dollars/Connecticut offers this mentality(it must contain dollars)..rather why not Values get mentioned because dollars are very(inhumane)personalites to wage in a combat MODEL/Hillary Clinton being a NY Senator might mirror the Connecticut IMAGE that corruption is a direct result of dollars over Values..because corruption allows the truth to escape w/the paperwork(lack of it)/Values have that un-mistakible paperwork of the most humane/”these truths we hold to be self evident”/instead of a menadering pledge of dollars..Hillary Clinton is “buttering” the people like they were bread-slices..then she turns the next corner w/her Butter Knife and its Iowa/but butter might be better on toast in Mississippi..its a bad sales job most times(the Clinton’s)seem to have poor salesmanship as a mainstay(like)creating a mirror image that’s so self centered(it)seems actually creative/the Clinton’s are absurd to say the least.

Posted by: Mark S. M. | October 24, 2007, 6:31 am 6:31 am

Oh my God! What Hillary actually caught expressing her true feelings? The slam on the South is not so surprising as the fact that someone caught her in an honest moment. Mark this one down in the books.

Posted by: Will Gibbs | October 24, 2007, 6:45 am 6:45 am

I read a number of comments about Hillary Clinton and wonder why there is so much jealously over her running for president. She speaks her mind and says the truth and that’w what many people don’t want to hear. They like lies told to them. If these critics think Edwards and Obama are going to win the nomination their dreaming. Its not going to happen and may never happen. They haven’t shown any ability to run the White House just listen to their campaign speeches. The same for Giuliani, McCain, Thompson and Mitt. All her rivals are a big joke and are not headed anywhere. They are just wastin time. Giuliani may beat out his rivals but he won’t beat Hillary.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | October 24, 2007, 7:19 am 7:19 am

Hilldawg trashesMississippians

Not that she stood a Rolexs chance in Detroit of competing in Ole Miss, but this isnt exactly the best way to erase that stereotype (a well earned one) of being a northeastern liberal elitist:
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Posted by: Crush Liberalism | October 24, 2007, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Sorry, but when I think of states which are on the forefront of significant social and economic progress, Iowa and
Mississippi aren’t the first ones that come to mind. Sen. Clinton is simply stating the obvious, whether most people like it or not.

Posted by: chuck | October 24, 2007, 8:56 am 8:56 am

I thought Libs were oblivious but this is beyond even that to believe anything that Clinton says you definitely require the willing suspension of disbelief.
How could anyone thinks she is telling the truth at all, because first is she changes what she says daily. And Truth does not change.
She is a power hungry politician that wants to bring Socialism to our country, and that is fact!

Posted by: spock | October 24, 2007, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Hillary has a chance to win Iowa’s electoral votes, but no chance in the world of winning Mississippi’s. Dumping on MS is cost-free. It might aggravate some people there, but they’re not even in the ball-game.

Posted by: Homer | October 24, 2007, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Sen. Clinton actually blamed a vast right-wing conspiracy for charges that her husband had an affair with Monica Lewinsky: a much narrower charge, albeit only partially incorrect. HE had the affair, THEY made sure we found out all about it. However, for the inside story on how a vast right-wing conspiracy, funded by Richard Mellon Scaife and Rupert Murdoch, among others, fed Americans everything we think we know about Whitewater, Troopergate, Cattlegate, Filegate, Vince Foster and ON and ON, see “The Hunting of the President,” by Joe Conason & Gene Lyons, “Blinded by the Right,” by David Brock, and “Fools for Scandal.” If someone actually puts a target on your back, you’re not “playing the victim” for pointing it out.
As for the correction: it was technically accurate but irrelevant because Reconstruction in the South was different from any period before or since, except possibly pre-Revolutionary times. There might also have been African-American Senators from the South elected in the day of the Neanderthal, but we’re not going to count them either.
A Republican Senator from before the Republican Party went insane with the Southern Strategy? See (immediately) above.
I’m not sure what’s interesting about the coincidence of Senators Braun, Obama, and Clinton all being from Illinois.
As for your final point: I agree wholeheartedly. Democrats should do a much better job of recruiting and supporting African-American (and female) candidates for higher office. Some of those African-Americans can even be women and some of those women can be other than white. I hope they will. I hold out no such expectation for TODAY’S Republican Party.

Posted by: dawn | October 24, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am

As a resident of Mississippi, I’d say Sen. Clinton is letting the state is off easy. Problems in the deep south are rooted in a long tradition of bigotry of all sorts. Just this past weekend a KKK rally in downtown attracted SUPPORTERS as well as counter demonstrators. Also the American Family Association are notorious homophobes. The ‘good ole boy’ mentality permeates much of Mississippi and fortunately there is a movement to change things for the better. Obtaining a new south is a worthy goal facing a hard climb but progress is being made.

Posted by: Realitysage | October 24, 2007, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Dawn, you wrote: “I hold out no such expectation for TODAY’S Republican Party.” I tend to agree with this statement, but I’m sure for a different perspective than you may be taking. It’s not because the Republican Party does not want or that they aren’t trying to recruit African-Americans — men and women. The fact is the Republican Party is trying very hard to recruit African-Americans. There are some well qualified candidates across the country. The problem is these individuals do not want to submit themselves and, even more importantly, their families to the ridicule and racism that they will receive from within the African-American community. If the attacks were just on ideology and the issues you would see dozens of candidates. But instead the attacks are very personal and vicious. For not being “black.” For being an “Uncle Tom” or even an “Oreo-Cookie.” As if all African-Americans MUST think and act alike. It takes an extra special person who is willing to give up a successful private career with financial security in order to go into public service and put up with these personal attacks everywhere he or she goes.

Posted by: James Danley | October 24, 2007, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Fred – The higher prices has nothing to do with them being women but with being Libs.
Know I live in the NYC suburbs, and I have family in the south, I find it funny that the south it seems like a friendlier place, and more relaxed from people of all colors and backgrounds but yet the libs hate them. Look they even are turning their back on Florida.
Well I hope the South turns their back on the libs.
chris – Your joking right, in her first two terms she ignored the terrorists, she insulted our military then and now. She cut our military in half. She wants to raise taxes to a record high.
She had a cat for political purposes, And shes for Family? she wants late term abortion!! what family values is that! She is against Parental Notification, What Family values is that? She is for taxing Families more! WHAT FAMILY VALUES IS THAT?
Stop Drinking Lib KoolAid!

Posted by: spock | October 24, 2007, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Sorry, James: it’s not peer pressure that stops the Republicans from attracting more African-American members, it’s their socioeconomic pandering to the affluent suburbanites to create an “us (Caucasians)” against “them (all non-Caucasians)” mindset. I find it absolutely hilarious that the Republicans even went as far as the creation of a magazine called “The Black Republican,” with the world’s smallest magazine circulation numbers–3 copies total! And two of those copies were mailed to our Sec. of State!

Posted by: chuck | October 24, 2007, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

I think this quote is being twisted for an insanely dumb news story.

Posted by: Ryan | October 24, 2007, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Chuck, if you had children in grade school, elementary school and or high school, would you want your children to be called “Judas,” “Uncle Tom” and “Ore-Cookie?” How about your kids constantly hearing from their peers that their father (or mother) is nothing but a “house N—–.” What about your kids’ friends no longer hanging around them anymore? Would you want to have your kids coming home in tears everyday? Now try to explain to your kids why all of this is now happening when things were just fine before you decided to run for office! Now you have your kids mad at you for screwing up their lives.
Now tell me that “it’s not peer pressure.”

Posted by: James Danley | October 24, 2007, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

8-9% of African-Americans vote Republican. And there are thousands who are deeply involved in Republican activities. It is these thousands of already active Republicans, who the Republican Party are trying to recruit as candidates. So it is not the message of the Republican Party that prevents them from running for office.

Posted by: James Danley | October 24, 2007, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

james if i am correct Bush received the highest % of black votes for republicans too.

Posted by: SPOCK | October 24, 2007, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

chuck – you are putting the Libs motives as Republican, The libs are the ones that race bait. When did you ever hear a Repub say the things Hilary in her fake southern voice say or Edwards say!
Remember Maryland when a Black Republican ran for Governor (or Senator) Michael Steele did not the libs throw oreo cookies at him? What about the names called at Rice and Powell, So Please!
You know something I get very aggravated when people are so gullible to fall for the libs lies, because they are going to take away our freedoms

Posted by: SPOCK | October 24, 2007, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

Mississippi is certainly not alone in not electing women governors or congressmen. The majority of states in this country have not elected a woman governor. Anyone who does much research will find women in Mississippi have held leadership roles in the state (as lieutenant governor, state supreme court chief justice). And Mississippi is the state with the highest percentage of African Americans in elected offices. Hilary can’t win in Mississippi, and she figures most people aren’t going to bother to research her comments or do a little critical thinking about what comes out of her mouth.It really is scary to hear these comments come out of the mouth of a potential president. If she can be this offensive and divisive about a STATE, what is she going to be like in diplomatic relations with other countries?

Posted by: Lynne | October 25, 2007, 10:12 am 10:12 am

When you become president it is for all 50 states, even the ones that don’t vote for you. If you think the federal response was bad during Katrina can you imagine the support from someone who trashes your state for political brownie points?

Posted by: Southern Guy | October 25, 2007, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Enough with the ‘poor me, I’m a woman’ nonsense coming from Clinton and her campaign. When anyone else refers to her gender, they’re charged with being sexist yet here she is claiming “There has got to be something at work here…” because 2 states haven’t elected women governors. Puh-leez!
I’m a woman. I don’t vote for or against someone based on their gender but rather whether I think they are the right person for the job. In this case, my choice is not Clinton and my decision has nothing to do with her being a woman.

Posted by: edrie | October 25, 2007, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

What do you think HRC fundraiser John Grisham thinks about this?

Posted by: Jeff H | October 25, 2007, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Well, as a Mississippian who cares about state politics and national politics, she has obviously lost my vote. I was thinking of voting for her only if both Obama and Biden lost the primary to Hillary, now I just don’t see a candidate I would vote for in that scenario. It shouldn’t matter anyway, according to her our electoral votes won’t go to a woman presidential candidate anyway, and she is probably right with what she has to say about us.

Posted by: Z. Tatum | October 26, 2007, 3:41 am 3:41 am

I am a female from Mississippi, Hillary wasn’t caught expressing her true feelings or in a rare moment of honesty, her comments were cold and calculated, and meant to create controversy, as usual. Hillary has risen to her fame on controversy and will continue to do so. As far as the comments themselves, I, even as a backwoods illiterate Mississippian, would vote for Condoleezza if she ran, not because she’s a woman but because I believe in what she stands for. I wouldn’t vote for Hillary, not because she’s a woman but because she stands for nothing.

Posted by: southern_bell | October 26, 2007, 10:22 am 10:22 am

This is why I don’t much care for her in Iowa either.
Go Mississippi!

Posted by: Guy in IOWA | October 26, 2007, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Being a Mississippian, I have to laugh at the numerous comments about Mississippi not being socially progressive. While we have certainly not progressed as far socially as many places, I would contend that very few places have progressed more socially in the last 40 years. And with very little doubt, I can say that those with the most vitrol directed at Mississippi have likely spent very little if any time here. If not please don’t comment based on what you might have heard one time or seen at a truck stop on your way to drink in New Orleans. We actually deal with race on a daily basis here, rather than just spouting off about it in trendy, lily-white nightspots in NY and LA.

Posted by: John | October 27, 2007, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Having moved to Mississippi from Houston, TX, I can say that I have never been happier in my life. Yes the state has it’s racial moments, but it doesn’t even hold a candle to the racism that I and other people have seen in other parts of the country (esp. the Northeast.)
The manners, hospitality (towards every person regardless of gender/color etc.), and sincerity of every person there is unmatched anywhere else in America.
I can’t believe some of the things that people say about Mississippi that are absolutely untrue. There are rednecks, racists, and homophobes EVERYWHERE in America. The state is FAR from being one of the ugliest in America (visit Natchez, Oxford, Vicksburg or almost anywhere else in America.)
If you’ve never been, or you’ve spent less than 2 weeks in the state, you’re no position to talk about it’s people or it’s culture.

Posted by: BJ | March 11, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

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