Mr. Clinton Questions Obama’s Experience

Hillary’s got great experience.
She was put in charge of health care with a democratic president, democratic congress, and with polls showing 80% support for universal health care. Yet she managed to fail – very impressive.
And the seminal vote of her Senate career Great.
What a record.
It’s all just slipping away….

Hillary keeps talking about her experience. What experience? She’s never been a chief executive in government or business. Yes, its true that Bill put her in charge of heath care reform as First Lady, but it wasn’t even a paid position (that I’m aware of). Moreover, it was such a huge failure that in large part it cost the Democrats the house and senate in the 1994 elections.
Other than that, what executive experience does Hillary have? Are we now concluding that First Lady qualifies one for the presidency? If that’s the case, I guess Laura and Barbara Bush are equally qualified.
With absolutely no previous experience as an elected official, Hillary ran on Bill’s coattails for senate in New York as a carpet bagger (she had never lived in New York prior to running). Now she’s trying the same trick with the presidency.
Any talk of Hillary’s experience is a complete charade. Or at a minimum, Hillary’s attempt to superimpose Bill’s experience onto her own resume.

I agree with Mr. Clinton. First, I think he is much to young and immature to be president. Second, he doesn’t have the experience behind him. He is a really nice guy and I like him. But I just don’t think he is ready for the tremendous responsibility of being head of this country.

Bill, I must tell you experience matters, but there is the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Barack Obama has the right kind of experience at this time of History, at this moment.
If we were to vote for people based on experience then Billy you should not have been voted president because George Bush had more experience than you.
So cut the chase, you are not God and you are not the best politician either. Do you ever speak the truth?

It’s one thing for an ex-president to endorse a candidate. It seems to cross some kind of line when the elder-statesman of the party begins to undermine a candidate who represents the future of the party (now or later). Does Bill really want to tarnish his legacy in this way? And if he is willing to do that, what does it say about why the Clinton’s want so badly for HRC to be president?

I will enthusiastically support Obama or Edwards if they win the nomination but I want to send the best horse we have to the race. Too many people are making the same mistake with Clinton as they made with Al Gore in 2000: believing that they are Republican-lite and not worthy of support. There was a world of difference between Gore and Bush as Americans and the rest of the world found out.

Bill is right. He should have waited a few more years to be enough experienced to know that Monica Lewinsky should not be touched by the President of the US himself. This is a bouch of liers. His wife was for the war because of “my 8 years at Pennsylvania Ave” and then Bill himself was “opposed to the war since the beginning”. The best Clintonian position ever: the wife is for when the husband is soudainly against

So YellowDogBlue,
So experience is experience at sleazy politics. I’m always amazed to see democrats tie the fate of the democratic party to the Clintons. Now let’s look at the facts. During Bill Clinton tenure, the democratic lost the senate and the house. When, he left the white house we have few democratic governors than when he got in.
There will be no Health care reform, no energy policy, no real breakthrough on policy matters if we don’t have a president who will help the party gain more seats in the house and in the senate. We won in 2006, but what have we been able to do in the congress on the Iraq war, A new energy policy? We don’t have votes to enforce the promises made in the 2006 campaign.
I’m sorry, but Senator Clinton victory will not help the party to advance its agenda.

Bill Clinton is a disgraced former President of the United States; he lost his license to practice law in Arkansas for lying under perjury. Monica Lewinsky parents entrusted their daughter to Clinton as an intern in the White House; Bill Clinton abused this little girl with oral sex. He has no credibility whatsoevr. Year 2008 will end the political lives of the Clintons. Hillary will not be her party’s nominee.

Bill, Bill, really. You said Hillary would win this on her own. You didn’t run in 1988 because you hadn’t yet figured out how to silence the women you cavorted with. You are too worried that Obama will come into office and make the same kinds of mistakes you made your first year. Don’t worry, he’s got way better judgement than you.

So experience being first lady, that is what Barack is lacking?
I’m real confused here Bill.
And isn’t the better JUDGMENT that Barack has shown more important?

I predict before this is all over with Bill will endorse Obama.

Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton-Bush???
We’ve already had twenty years of this. We’ve had twenty years of the same people being in our government. And look at what has happened: two (three, currently?) recessions; the appointment of right wingers to the Supreme Court; NAFTA; the shipping of millions of jobs overseas; a health care debacle that contributed to the giant mess–where doctors have to fight with bean counters to get life saving treatments approved; and where it isn’t unheard of for a surgeon to be interrupted by the hospital’s CFO informing them that the HMO denied benefits on a BS reason; the Contract on America; failure to ratify Koyoto; failure to do anything to develop alternative fuels; tax cuts for the richest Americans; tax hikes–through the AMT–on middle class Americans; Terry Schaivo’s case where the Senate Majority Leader diagnosed her from the well of the Senate; Monica Lewinsky affair; impeachment; a president that was unable to respond to Al Qaeda because a movie in theaters at the time had an eerily similar plot; Clinton telling us, “The era of big government is over;” only to be followed by one of the most pro-government administrations ever; wiretapping; torture; government in our bedrooms, on our phones, and monitoring our e-mails; Jack Abarhamoff; Duke Cunningham; Tom DeLay; all scandals that had bi-partisan implications, and at least touched the orbit of the Clintons; Iraq; Valarie Plame; a Democratic Congress that is afraid to act because of the backlash against impeachment in the 1990s.
Bill Clinton is right, Obama may not be the change he says he is. Obama may not be much of a change at all. But it’s worth taking a chance now. Frankly, things can’t get any worse than they already are–unless we elect the status quo candidate that decided to run as an “incumbent,” despite all of the stuff mentioned above. It’s time for a clean sweep in Washington. It’s time for a new regime. It’s time to see if it can be done any better; surely it can’t be done any worse…
And finally, when was the last time that we elected somebody that had been a state legislator for most of their career and only had 2 years of experience in the United States Congress President? When fmr. Congressman Abraham Lincoln was elected in 1860. You asked for it, you got it. Thanks for comparing Sen. Obama to President Lincoln, Mr. President. It’s nice to hear a compliment come out of the Clinton campaign.

I know Clinton was just trying to help his wife, but he is wrong. The past two presidents, himself and Bush, barely had any experience when they took office. And look how widely different things have turned out.

I loathe Hillary Clinton, but comparing Barak Obama to Bill Clinton is like comparing a finger painting to a Picasso. Obama is so politically naive that be flaunts his ability to avoid voting on tough issues in the Illinois Senate and the United States Senate like it’s some evidence of his political adeptness. If he were the Democratic nominee, the Republicans would jam that ongoing avoidance of responsibility and/or indecisiveness right down his throat. When you’re asking nation to make you their leader, those are the last two qualities you want to have associated with you. and there’s plenty of video tape available and ready to be spliced together of him admitting he’s ducked many, many votes. The Swift Boating of John Kerry will look mild compared to what the Republicans will do to Barak Obama. For this and many other reasons, if Obama were to win the nomination, he’d be an almost certain loser in November.

it is not for Bill to prescribe who is a good candidate, especially for that matter in the person of Hillary,leave that to the people to decide after all you have interest in the candidure of your wife. you have played “dirty” for far too long, even poor people get bored.give us a break!

Remember that Hillary said she couldn’t recall over 50 times during Ken Starr’s investigation of the Clintons. WHY?

She boasts of 35 years experience yet refuses to release records detailing precisely what roll (if any) she played in the Clinton Administration or as First Lady of Arkansas. Perhaps the reason is that Arkansas saw a significant loss in their education ranking with her at the helm and we all know how she fared with Hillarycare.
As for her Senate career, where are the jobs she promised in upstate NY?

Bills message in a nutshell: Hillary deserves to win and those of you who do not understand are just inexperienced voters. Let Hillary win.

Well, for what I am reading here, Obama can’t do wrong, and for some he is the personification of the “ONE.” Please people, is that the standard we look for a leader of this country? We’ll be gambling with totally inexperience person. Where is the record of Obama, do we know about him enough? We don’t know enough here in Illinois. We are not talking to elect the New AMERICAN IDOL; were are talking to elect the leader of the USA and regardless what the Obamarama crowd think, Obama is not ready.
What surprise me the most as a Democrat is the bitter and really nasty notes from the Obama supporters against Clinton, Edwards, or anyone else that dares to critiseze Obama, that goes totally against his campaign of CHANGE and unifying people. Scary thought is that remains me the G.W Bush campaign strategy, G.W Bush campaigned like the regular guy, the “cool guy” the uniter not the divider, etc. His problem was that he was not ready to be president either and he has to rely on “his advisors for everything. Obama’s experience is as a community leader and not even the real leader in Chicago since he was always overshadow by Jessie Jackson and other local politicians.
What I seeing is a real hate and polarization in the Democratic party as happening before. Thats bad for us and good for the Republicans! They are playing the always effective card “divide and conquer” as Bush just did with in Congress. He got his way!

Clinton fatigue already.

What experience does MRS. Clinton have? Being a first lady? Other than the Senate seat which she has occupied – that Mr. Obama occupies similar senate seat – what additional experience does Mrs. Clinton possess? Her only other experience was her initiative to reform helthcare in 1993 – which she failed miserably in. So let’s not pretend that Mrs. Clinton has any experience when she has none. And if being in the white house as first lady counts as experience then Monica Lewinksy should also be considered for the office because her experiece is also vast and “deep”.

I was a member of the Electoral College for Clinton in ’96. He is the best Democratic politician of my lifetime. I enthusiastically supported him in both elections.
His refusal to control his libido cost us the election in 2000. We would not be in Iraq if Gore had won. Blood is on Clinton’s hands (or whatever :))
Kerry’s disastrous campaign allowed Idiot Boy (aka W) to appoint two more neocons to the Supreme Court. The next president will likely fill two more seats at least.
Hillary may be the only Democrat who can actually lose to the GOP in ’08. I
I understand Bill and Hill want back in power. If I could snap my fingers and make it happen, I would. However, they’ve done far too much damage already (lest we forget the ’94 election debacle along with 2000.)
We need new leadership in the party. Obama has the best mind I’ve seen since Clinton and, hopefully, a far greater sense of responsibility and purpose.

Now we are attacking Bill Clinton, have your love for Obama totally blinded your brains? Ha-ha. This Obamarama is becoming ridiculous to say the least!.
Obama is not pure, check his supporters in Illinois, 5 are indicted and he just started his political career. Now to said that Obama has the best mind..thats is real stretch! c’mon the guy is likable and cool; but thats it. Now he is better than anyone else in the past, better that any Democrat including Bill Clinton. Are you people out of your mind? This is crazy LOL.
Obama is going to lose and will be alot of this “passionate Obama lovers” crying out loud very soon. LOL
I can see the Republican machine ready to pick on him and without any boundaries…he will be crashed and not even Oprah can save his defeat!

I totally agree with President Clinton. Obama is too presumptous. He has done nothing, achieved nothing, and he wants to be the president of this great country. The Obama supporters are free to uncritically follow him wherever he takes them. The country is not ready to follow an inexperienced neophyte. Talk about arrogance!

What right for Clinton, may not be right for Obama. Obama has the best judgement, mistake or no mistake.
Hilary have the experience to play lobby-game, but, she is not the right cadidate to steer the country from Dubaiya saga.
We need new kind of politics, we need another JFK. We need Obama.
Say no Hilary, America is not a country for Bush-CLinton dynasty. Period.

Bill Clinton is sick! He keeps on wraping himself in inconsistencies! I dont support Obama but the argument is hypocritical.
Age: Mr Obama will be older than him when he takes office
Experience:Mr Obama has been longer in elected office than his wife
So where is his point!

Experience? Ha! What all these “HillBillarys” on the blog don’t seem to get is that the rest of us really don’t see what experience Hillary has that’s worth boasting about. What did she really accomplish? I know for a fact she was on the board of directors of Wal-mart. Is that the experience she’s talking about? I’m not sure how labor or any other progressive can stand by her.
Seriously what’s she done but stand by Bill? I like Bill but he’s not running, she is. I say Obama and Edwards all the way.

I loathe Hillary Clinton, but comparing Barak Obama to Bill Clinton is like comparing a finger painting to a Picasso. Obama is so politically naive that be flaunts his ability to avoid voting on tough issues in the Illinois Senate and the United States Senate like it’s some evidence of his political adeptness. If he were the Democratic nominee, the Republicans would jam that ongoing avoidance of responsibility and/or indecisiveness right down his throat. When you’re asking nation to make you their leader, those are the last two qualities you want to have associated with you. and there’s plenty of video tape available and ready to be spliced together of him admitting he’s ducked many, many votes. The Swift Boating of John Kerry will look mild compared to what the Republicans will do to Barak Obama. For this and many other reasons, if Obama were to win the nomination, he’d be an almost certain loser in November.

When Barack takes office in Jan 09, he will be 47 years old, that’s 3 years oldeer than JFK when he took office and the same age as Bill. Obama has 11 years of experience in a prominent elected office. Hillary has 7 years in an elected office. Being First Lady is nice but having tea and crumpets with wifes of foreign leaders is not that relevant to being a US President.

I think using Bill in this way in such a relentless high profile way is beginning to backfire on the Hillary campaign. I think it keeps remindng voters that Hillary is totally dependent on Bill. It makes you wonder during a crisis she will probably have to make a call to Bill to get his recommendation before making a decision.

Yes I agree with you Titiberg. The GOP will have a field day bringing back all the Bimbo eruption stories and tapes. It won’t be pretty. God I hope someone besides Hillary wins so this nation is not put through that again.

Christy — “THE MAN WAS A GREAT PRESIDENT AND HILLARY WILL BE AS WELL. WHEN YOU GET HILL YOU GET BILL!!!! HILLARY 08!” —- What you will get my dear are two people hell bent on making this the USSA – United Socialist States of America. Co-leaders both with power over their party and the ability to push their agenda through the use of a media machine unmatched in American history… Vote with your brain and not your emotions… there is a lot at stake here.. more than most realize.

I am saddened reading these comments. The level of hatred sounds like it is coming from what I typically associate with Republicans, not Democrats. Both of these candidates are outstanding. I personally believe that Barack Obama should have waited to run and that he will be a wonderful canddiate for the future. Hillary’s time is now.

America is in a mess, (thanks George). It will take massive experience and power, and pull to put it back on track. Sad but Obama don’t even come close. It is time for full democratic vote, at least this time, to eliminate the Bush corruption. Reevaluate in 4 years. CHANGE HAS TO BE MADE.

Only experience I see that Hillary has is, acting like the Republicans with her attacks, and that what we are tired of!

Are we so desperate in the Democratic party that we turn our back in history, leaders, real good people with experience and put all our trust in a completely inexperience person, untested? we did it before when the country was in similar situation with Nixon and in war, economy cris, etc, back then we picked Carter a good man, good spirit and looked for change. The point is not to just talk and look for change; but to know what is the real change the country needs, how are we going to do it and elect the most capable, talented, experienced person to lead our nation forward and lead the world. Nominating Obama will be like nominating Carter; they both are good man but they both were not ready to be President. We are not doing Obama any favor to try to elevate him now to this level of almost untouchable person – the purest- above every other one, after all he is a politician and have to be scrutinized and measure to the same standards that anyone else. He shouldn’t not be above anyone and his sudden followers should not let the hype, celebrities and money blind their judgement! The country are probably tired and sick of Bush; but in order to beat the Republicans in the general election firs the Democrats need to be united (and Obama and Hillary followers with the hate and nastiness to one another are doing just the opposite, they are doing a favor to the GOP). When have you heard a Republican talk so negative about Reagan? and Reagan wasn’t perfect! They don’t but opposite to then here I am reading all this negative attacks toward President Clinton, thats demoralizing and strategically wrong. Is like the Obama lovers believe he OBAMA along can win everything and that he suddenly is like GOD that can’t do wrong and the only brain, power to save our country. Please give us the break!
We are electing a leader, one strong leader, not a Pastor at this time.

Duck Soup,– nice try! Hilarious, would you allow in NYC, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan or any other state the students that are not registered voters as permanent residents to vote? That will be vote fraud my friend. In order to vote you should be permanent resident and paid taxes in the state you are voting, period!
Now, Obama people are trying to bus out to Iowa all the students from southern Ilinois, now thats A NEW STRATEGY, unfortunately for him it came out!
He’s probably afraid because those are his crowds college students and large avenues joined by celebrities.
Now to all people talking way so NASTY about the Clintons, you are talking like REPUBLICANS. I have never ran into a truly Democratic with such hate and language toward the Clintons.
Now if those that are talking that low about them coming up with the same nasty things they were attacked before by the Republican machine and right wingers, well my friends you are as nasty as they are or just playing naive and playing in their hands for their benefit.
The same nasty attacks to Hillary were made when she was running for the NYC Senate, she prove them wrong. She become one of the best Senators in Congress, respected and delivering to New Yorkers. Now the Hillary haters will never see that, they hate her and hate them both no matter what!

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Grace! Get a clue!! You’re probably so naive that you believe that ost of our senators have not used drugs. Yo most likely hate Obama so much that you actually believe that Bill didn’t inhale, and that Hillary has never tried drugs. Poor clueless you!!

One of the most recent polls shows Hillary will beat a republican by 10%, Obama will beat the republican candidate by 15%.
But nore importantly, Edwards will beat them by 20%.
It tells me Edwards is the most electible.

It is my please to say that the foundation of change is having wealth of experiences in that area you want to change. How can you execute a change when you are a rockie to national politics.
Regarding the situations the country is encountering, it doesn’t require an individual that is just entering Washington’s politics, but a person who knows the dynamics of Washington’s politics.
To my fellow Democratics, who are saying Obama is well prepared to serve as President for this nation, I would like to know,how well you know him.
There is a saying says,”be with a devil you know than a devil you don’t know.” With respect to the aforesaid proverb, i prepfer to vote for Hillary because she is only front runner that understands the dynamics of national and international politics due to her long-term to this nation.
On the other hand, I can,t vote for Obama becasue he stated that “his childhood years overseas is tantamount to him knowing the dynamics of international politics”. In regard to his preposition, i deduced that he is in-experience.

Acknowledging your mistakes is a test of true character. I want a people’s person who can actually have a conversation with me, not someone who is an illusionist. Actions will ALWAYS speak louder than words.

. . .but they are running for president, and the presidency requires a different set of qualities. Presidents are buffeted by sycophancy, criticism and betrayal. They must improvise amid a thousand fluid crises. They’re isolated and also exposed, puffed up on the outside and hollowed out within. With the presidency, character and self-knowledge matter more than even experience. There are reasons to think that, among Democrats, Obama is better prepared for this madness.
NYT- Dec 17, 2007