Obama’s Cup of Tea
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports: Six days from the Iowa caucuses and the battle over experience has not subsided.
Barack Obama insists his experiences traveling and having family living overseas brings more to the table than, let’s say, the job of a former first lady.
"It’s that experience, that understanding, not just of what world leaders I went and talked to in the ambassadors house I had tea with, but understanding the lives of the people like my grandmother who lives in a tiny hut in Africa," Obama, D-Ill., told a crowd of would-be voters in Coralville, Iowa, on Friday.
The veiled shot at Senator Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., couldn’t be more succinct as he argued that her experience level as a first lady doesn’t outshine his as a world traveler.
Obama went on to argue that this difference led him to make judgment about the Iraq war.
"That’s the experience that helped inform my opposition to the war in Iraq, that’s the kind of experience that’s rooted in the real lives of the American people," he said.
Obama’s tea comment sparked a response from Clinton’s campaign Friday. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, a supporter of Clinton’s, issued a statement.
"Senator Clinton has been in refugee camps, clinics, orphanages, and villages all around the world, including places where tea is not the usual drink," Albright said. "In addition to these experiences she has met with world leaders and has known many of them for years. I have been with her on many of these occasions, and it is this combination of experience and understanding that sets her apart from the field, and why I am supporting her for President."
Clinton refused to respond Friday when reporters asked her about Obama’s "tea" comments.
At a campaign stop Friday in Clinton, Iowa reporters asked Obama to clarify his remarks.
Obama said, "Why do you guys like to gin up these kind of stories like this? I was making the same comment I’ve made many times which is that knowing a country is more to do than visiting an ambassador’s office, those folks must really be on edge if they think we spend all our time thinking about them," he said. "They need to think about the American people a little more instead of us."
But it has all been rough and tumble on the campaign trail.
At an earlier town hall event in Williamsburg, Iowa, Obama recalled a recent conversation with his wife, Michelle Obama.
The candidate recounted told the crowd how his aspiring first lady told him, " ‘You know, in eight years, I’m not sure we’d be the same people as we are now,’ " and joked that they are "not doing this again."
Just five years ago, Obama told the crowd, the couple had just paid off their student loads after ten years of law school and hadn’t yet set up a college fund for their daughters.
"My wife was still shopping at Target. She still does," Obama said. "And she said, ‘You know, eight years from now, we will have lost a little bit of touch with what ordinary families are going through. We’ll still be good people, hopefully, but we’ll be in a different orbit, in a different circle. Our worries will be different and our concerns will be different. And we’re already there, but at least we’ll still remember what that was like.’ And I thought that that was a wonderful insight."
The candidate, who regularly refers to Senator Clinton and her husband former President Bill Clinton as part of the "Washington establishment", continued, "One of the things that I think I offer in this race is. . . the way (Michelle) put it is, ‘We still remember what it’s like to be normal.’ But I think that’s part of what happens when you’re in Washington for a very long time — you lose touch with that."
ABC News’ Eloise Harper contributed to this report. You can read more of Sunlen Miller’s dispatches from the campaign trail by clicking here. And for the latest on the 2008 race for the White House, read The Note every morning.
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Newsflash Obambi: Normalcy in our country ended long long ago…
Also, immediately cutting off aid to Pakistan is about the most insane idea I have heard yet this silly season. Is Mr. Obambi Hussein getting his talking points from Dennis “UFO” Kucinich and/or Ron “Anti-Semite” Paul?
Posted by: Robert Marley | December 28, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Obama and Hillary will both have some new questions to answer, along with Giuliani and Huckabee. They all just made Judicial Watch’s Top 10 Most Corrupt Politicials list!
Posted by: Cory | December 28, 2007, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
we in illinois remember what it was like to have two senators (only one was respected, Peter Fitzgerald)
Posted by: JACK | December 28, 2007, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Our country needs Obama right now. He can bring this country together at a time when we are too polarized to accomplish what needs to be done. We need to ensure that citizens have health care and that we don’t launch preemptive wars under false pretenses. We need to regain our soul and stop torturing people and locking them up indefinitely without any charges.
Know hope.
Vote for Obama (I’m talking to you Iowans!)
Posted by: Anthony Johnson | December 28, 2007, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Wait a minute here.
Obama allows his Grandmother,
to live in a “tiny hut in Africa”,
yet he is a millionaire?
Does anyone else see something
very wrong about that?
Posted by: SpottedOwlStew | December 28, 2007, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
The man is a great orator, But the capacity to tell an engaging story is not what makes a great leader.
Unfortunatly, he does not have a clue how the real world works.
Posted by: Spastic Jack | December 28, 2007, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
We need a fresh start. Vote Obama 2008
And FYI – the vituperative attacks against Obama must mean that he is really threatening to people. Good. He’s threatening because he’s a sign of the future. A hopeful future.
Posted by: Jill | December 28, 2007, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
SpottedOwlStew you could not be more right. What American grandson, regardless of wealth, would allow his grandmother to live in a hovel? If he accepts this type of treatment of his own family then what about the American elderly?
Posted by: lindafranke1952 | December 28, 2007, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
“Eight years from now”?
A bit presumptuous don’t you think?
Posted by: ray | December 28, 2007, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Hey…my wife still shops at Target! Sounds like a cheap shot at us common folk to me….
Posted by: Bob | December 28, 2007, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
This message is in response to Robert Marley.
Cutting off aid to a puppet military dictator that uses the money to oppress his people and drive them into the arms of the Taliban is a good idea. That and to say Ron Paul is an anti-semite just shows your ignorance. His 3 mentors in economics whose pictures hang on his wall were all Jewish. Rothbard, Mises and Hayek. What an anti-semite. Do a little research. You don’t agree with him and that is fine but don’t talk out your ###.
Posted by: nate | December 28, 2007, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Did any of you stop to think that maybe Obama’s grandmother WANTS to live in that African hut and does not want the materialistic trappings that an American life offers? Or maybe she doesn’t want to live in the US at all! You clowns think everyone in the world wants an American lifestyle? No thanks, you can keep your daily Paris Hilton news flashes and sub-prime loans to yourselves!
Just because you can afford it does not mean you want it or need it.
Posted by: realist | December 28, 2007, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
um..hovel? Why does it have to be a hovel? Maybe she is happy living in clean air and clean land in a modest hut living a modest life? I’m sure if she were in distress like the sally struthers Commercials, he’d help.
Please dig deeper for some mud worth tossing. Your lack of respect is very apparent.
Posted by: Grimjack | December 28, 2007, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
d’yeh think Mitt Romney’s wife still shops at Target? What it was was a sparkling endorsement for Target.
keeeeep diggin….
Posted by: GrimJim | December 28, 2007, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Musharraf is a military dictator and we have funded him with billions of dollars.
What have we gotten in return?
Chaos.
Robert Marley needs to go over himself and fix everything. He is so brave and smart.
Posted by: Rich | December 28, 2007, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I’M WITH YOU RAY, A BIT PRESUMPTUOUS
DON’T YOU THINK ??? HE IS DEFINATELY NOT READY FOR THIS JOB, THAT IS FOR SURE…
THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON THAT CAN HANDLE THIS JOB AND IN THESE TIMES AND THAT IS
RUDY, AND HE CAN’T WIN EITHER.
Posted by: dommie | December 28, 2007, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Robert:
Barack Obama is not a Muslim. He is a Born-Again Christian. First, get your facts straight. Second, do not presume to know all of America’s opinions. Third, who cares if he were Muslim?
Ignorance. It’s a detrimental thing.
Realist:
You took the words right out of my mouth. His grandmother might not want a lavish lifestyle; no one can know for sure except for Barack and his grandmother, so accusing him of being a horrible son is not valid.
Posted by: Mel1747 | December 28, 2007, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
“Third, who cares if he were Muslim?”
Wow, somebody is out of touch with reality.
Posted by: Decent Person | December 28, 2007, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
born again christian is only slightly better than islamic. they are both whacked out fundamentalists that should be feared.
Posted by: Jeff Jackson | December 28, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Why does a US senators grandmother live in a tiny hut in Africa, without water and electricity??? Do you think Hillary Clinton’s grandmother would be living in a tiny hut in Africa? This is disgraceful. Do he and his successful Law firm partner wife not have enough money to enough his grandmother lives somewhere other than a hut?
Posted by: s.b. | December 28, 2007, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Oh yeah if he can’t get water electricity and health care to his own grandmother does anyone believe he will get it for them as president????
Posted by: s.b. | December 28, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Perhaps Obama’s grandmother lives in a hut in Africa because that’s her home and where she wants to live. Believe it or not, most Africans actually love their home!
Posted by: Damon F | December 28, 2007, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
God, there are too many moronic comments!
Obama is a nice guy who wants a very lucrative job.
Stop acting like every comment you make has to be political and tear down someone to help your favorite candidate.
I wouldn’t vote for him to be president, but I wouldn’t treat every election as some sleezy gotta get my guy elected at all costs event either.
Man up, yo! Start acting like adults.
Posted by: Jeff Barea | December 28, 2007, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
That the hell does “change” mean??
That’s all Obama talks about without giving speciofics other that giving freebie’s to all who ask.
He’s on the “Most corrupt politician” list though!!
Fred Thompson in 08!!!
Posted by: Dr Smooth | December 28, 2007, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Yes, Fred Thompson ’08! A comatose President will be unable to do anything stupid! Or anything at all! even better!
(This started as a parody, but now that I think about it…)
Posted by: HellifIknow | December 28, 2007, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
RIP Benazir.
Posted by: gster | December 28, 2007, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Some of you need to travel beyond the American borders and accept that the world has much too offer. Never has America been more arrogant, pretentious, and ignorant of the world than in this moment. We have a president who has undermined democracy in his own country and a vice-president whose vast experience of sending others to war while safeguarding his own life, has led to a needless and fruitless conflict.
The irony of Decent Person’s post points to the absolute inanity of much of the right in this country who only associate fanaticism with the Muslim community, forgetting that Christianity is susceptible to identical perversions. We are a laic state and thank god for our supposed separation of church and state. I would recommend leaving your hovel in Arkansas and venturing to see a world with civilizations thousands of years older than our own. Perhaps your presumption of superiority would be quelled and your heart could be opened to the knowledge that people can live fruitfully and happily without the wanton materialism and status symbols that define our nation’s character. We were once a nation of boldness and thought, but sadly we are now characterized by an institutionalized idiocy and dumbed down electorate who believe that a big stick is more powerful than an agile mind. We live in a country where we construct more prisons than schools, where education has become an afterthought and guns a more common property than books. Some of the responses on this article represent the intellectual maturity and breadth of a two year old primate and unfortunately, that thoughtlessness has prevailed in much of America.
The “real world” extends far beyond our borders and to understand it, one must be a part of it. Unfortunately, the religious right and its conservative cohorts believe the only relevant history to be that of a book written 2000 years ago. God help these neophytes and myopic fools find the faith to be humbled and informed. Have we not learned from Vietnam and Korea, Iraq and now again in Afghanistan that to underestimate our foe, to find him inferior because he may be different, has lead to the myriad death and destruction of so many who did nothing to deserve such malevolence and violence. We have become what we once abhorred, the tyrant and the conquerer. Obama, I hope can become the usurper and uniter. We need bold leadership. The fifteen minutes of the religious right is up!
Posted by: Rob | December 28, 2007, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
I want to live in a hut in Africa.
A lot less obtrusive ignorance floating around so freely out there, a little more peace and quiet.
Ill probably stay here though, and Ill probably vote for Obama too
Posted by: Jordan | December 28, 2007, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
And Amen to Rob, too
Posted by: Jordan | December 28, 2007, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Wow, Rob. Outstanding post amongst a pile of DrudgeBots. Sadly, using words just confuses them. They prefer irrational emotion pandering. The more visceral the better.
Posted by: WeNeedObama | December 28, 2007, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
muslim? out of touch? only rudy can lead? is blogging really as tactical and divisive as party politics? what a waste we have become. whoever wins i hope they are open for compromise and common good. teamwork is sadly something america get’s worse at everyday.
Posted by: robert | December 28, 2007, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
mike–wake up and smell the coffee
Posted by: Chris | December 28, 2007, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Obama is an empty suit. His lack of originality, experience and ideas for America will continue to present themselves as Americans look closer. However, I can see where he would be a tolerable alternative to sHillary, for Liberal voters.
Posted by: golfrnsavh | December 28, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Noone else but Obama could get away with pretending that his paternal grandfather’s second or third or fourth wife is his “granny” when, of course, she isn’t.
Posted by: Ed | December 28, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Can we please have a reporter lookup this famed “grandmother living in a tiny hut in Africa”? Is Senator Obama close to her? Does she ever visit him in the US? Does he visit her in Africa?
Posted by: Rick Roberts | December 28, 2007, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Obama is a Christian convert from Islam. He was raised a Muslim when he was in Indonesia. His middle name Hussein is named after a Muslim warrior. Radicals may feel that his conversion sets a bad example for other Muslims. On the other hand, he could help lead to a mass conversion of Muslims around the world.
Posted by: Jane | December 28, 2007, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Rick, it’s his grandfather’s fourth wife. On Obama’s father’s side. You know, the African father that abandoned the family when Obama was an infant before he was sent off to be raised to adulthood with his white grandparents in Hawaii.
Obama has likely never seen her or met her or even really knows if she lives in a tiny hut or not.
Though it makes a good speechifying anecdote for the Obama people who slurp up the sugary vacant platitudes he spouts off with.
Posted by: Ed | December 28, 2007, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
After much reading and thought, I am supporting Duncan Hunter.
Posted by: rachel | December 28, 2007, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
“why waste the democratic spot on him?” I’ll tell you why Mike: Because Obama beats every Republican running!
Did you even imagine, Mike, that there are more decent people, from every party, that are so sick and tired of reading, hearing and seeing pure juvenile vitriol like you just spewed, from all sides, that once again, as in Illinois, Obama will end up with 10-20 pts more of the vote than polled right before the election?
I hope everyone sickened by such vacuous ignorance just draws that line, hits that button, fills in that bubble on those ballots, or raises their hand in the caucuses and votes for Obama. When it’s just you and your vote, the real issue won’t disappear or get buried beneath the bull. You want someone who still believes in hard work, logic, [Christian, the generous type not the go-to-hell-type] faith and compassion, and doesn’t owe his/her soul to military contractors, foreign PACs or 527s. That leaves only Barack Obama from Illinois.
Unless you’ve a share in those contractors or oil corporations, and your worthless dollars have been converted and invested offshore, don’t defend them or their bought-paid-for candidates – they’re destroying the American way of life. There’s only one of those ethical candidates on either ballot this year, Mike, and it’s Obama. No lobbyists, no PACs foreign or domestic, no 527s be they unions, labor, business, religious, pro-life, left or right. And he’s already got almost half a million individual donors, most small donors – more than any candidate in history – and it’s only the primaries!
Want your own President of the UNITED States? It’s Obama. Want one paid-for to sell you down the river, go elsewhere. But you know what, haters, when Obama wins, there won’t be any rancor or vengeance from us, we’ll just go forward and fix this pathetic mess Bush and Cheney have wrought. We love this country.
Posted by: V | December 28, 2007, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Rob, I think you must be very young or ill-informed. Americans do NOT feel superior…colleges deep-sixed THAT mentality in the 80′s. I do not know ANY thinking person who actually believes this country is “defined” by its drive to obtain material goods…I just don’t. Who are you hanging around with? Idiots think that…dopes think that, but educated Americans don’t, and they are the leaders, entrepreneurs, movers and shapers of policy, and the reason that immigrants still flock here in DROVES. Follow the traffic, bud.
The reason we have a dumbed down electorate is that the liberals got a hold of the schools. Just as they spent 5 trillion fixing poverty with The Great Society. Name me ONE LIBERAL POLICY since 1960 that has WORKED. OK I’m sure there’s one…must be one. Let’s see, we still have poverty, now we have bad schools full of athiest multicultural BS, where kids can’t play dodge ball or compete with each other because it might hurt their self-esteem (liberal idea). We have so much political correctness we can no longer fight a war, even when our safety is on the line. All liberal policies. I can’t think of a single conservative thing that has done the damage you are complaining about.Examine your OWN policies before you criticize your opponents, using Christian bashing as your cloak. NO ONE (not even Repubs)wants fundamentalists running the country. And we don’t want empty headed liberals either. Who on earth do you really know of any consequence in your life who lives with a kitchen full of guns? You must run with some pretty strange folks. Im a conservative and I don’t KNOW anyone with one…only folks who believe we have a right to own them.
This is the greatest country on earth. Flawed, yes. But let’s argue the issues here, not bash America. Obama has yet to offer one idea that’s not recycled leftist do-goodism. The rest is all cliches, no specifics. Please share with us what solutions you think he, or any of them, might bring to bear that would contain the threat of islamofascism, end illegal immigration, and actually contain escalating health costs.
So far not ONE candidate has…neither Dem nor Rep. THAT’S our big problem. I respectfully disagree that Obama has anything whatsover other than charisma, and elequence to offer. It’s a shame, because he’s really likable. But there’s no there there.
Posted by: Dee | December 28, 2007, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
I haven’t heard ONE original idea from Obama. He’s a lightweight, and I recognize that. But I will vote for him anyway, and hope he grows into the job. Because I just can’t vote for the corrupt Hildebeast, who represents a trip back to the 60′s.
Posted by: Joyce | December 28, 2007, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Silly people, of course he has a grandmother there, there are photos and video all over the web, get a clue.
His visit to Kenya was historic, and as usual, he called out their government for their corruption and the people’s miserable conditions. He’s a descendant of Kenya’s largest tribe and greeted like a hero there. Think on that next time you read how Africa’s resources are being scooped up, not by the U.S., but by China and Russia.
If greed’s your only motive, you still need Obama – Africa is the next Middle East, in strategic resources and non-Christian faiths and diverse tribes. And news flash to the purely avaricious: without America’s good reputation, you can do businesses freely absolutely nowhere. So at least clean up our image and elect Obama. Millions around the world are watching and know he’s perfectly qualified and capable. Your move.
Posted by: V | December 28, 2007, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
He’s qualified, V? Really? Based on what? His minority status? Must be, because he hasn’t even authored any bills! Half his term in the Senate has been spent running for President. Unless, of course, you consider an endorsement from Oprah a “qualification”.
Posted by: Rachel | December 28, 2007, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
As they say, a picture is worth a $1000 words…I can just see Hillary over there sipping tea Ms. Butooh using taxpayer’s money. And now she claims its foreign policy experience…Give us a break! An established politician robbing the American people blind? Why hasn’t she called foul for the $10 million dollars that Pres. Murasharah as received prior to now. Hillary Clinton is a reactive politician, not a proactive or visionary leader that America needs!
Guess what? My vote goes to the next world leader of the U.S. – Barack Hussein Obama!
Posted by: speakkup | December 28, 2007, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Robert – And Americans are too smart to buy the lies and half-wit conspiracy theories about Obama too.
Posted by: Eyzwidopn | December 28, 2007, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
I don’t know if he is a muslim now. I do know he was born as a muslim since his father was muslim and he went to a muslim school as a child. Since coming to America, he goes to a black separatist church. Sorry, I cannot take the chance, my country is more important to me then Obama and wifes ambitions.
Posted by: doug l | December 28, 2007, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
I’m a Democrat for Ron Paul
Posted by: flint | December 28, 2007, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
If this is the best we can come up with as for as presidents…we are all in trouble…not a one worth a pinch of sh…..all have their hidden agendas…but what is that agenda….the question we will only know when one of these knuckleheads is leading the pack..Michael Savage in O8
Posted by: denver | December 28, 2007, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
you’re a fool to vote for that guy. maybe you should just as well sell secrets to china or help al queda.
Posted by: joe | December 28, 2007, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
So how is having tea with people and “traveling” considered “experience?”
Posted by: TyroneShulaces | December 28, 2007, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
If Obama converted from Islam to Christianity – then there is hope for secular Dumb-o-crats who post here to convert.
Thank Allah, oh, I mean GOD !
Posted by: Con-Ver-Ted? | December 28, 2007, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Rob, you are stamped out of the same mold as a million other clones who parrot the same worn-out anti-Christian slanders. If your brains were are removed and examined I am sure the same little pre-programmed chips would be found embedded in your cortexes. Certainly you did not all come to the same exact conclusions based on personal experience and original thinking. Having said that, I will also agree that people who are “religious” without actually having had their own “Damascus Road” experience are dangerous; just like the apostle Paul was dangerous before his own conversion experience. After his conversion he was still dangerous but only to the hard-hearted, the power establishment, the traditional religious establishment, and the outright evil (yes, there are people who are evil and enjoy it). Jesus resisted attempts to make him political saying his kingdom was not of this world. He knew that the way the world will become a better place is one person/one heart at a time. Institutions can never solve the world’s problems and all the hub-bub over “leaders” is a meaningless circus of distraction and delusion. Christianity has long ago become institutionalized but Jesus Christ is still the same and still has the power to change a human heart, one person at a time. If you have not been transformed by an encounter with a resurrected Christ, you are part of the problem. It doesn’t matter who you vote for or who wins the latest election. What matters is who rules in your heart. Like Bob Dyan once said before his light went out, “Everybody gotta seeeerrrve somebody”.
Posted by: ura dementedsol | December 28, 2007, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Beware of the politicians who want to adopt the ‘Nanny Socialist’ State. Obama, Edwards, Clinton, & Kucinich are at the top ot the list. Obama’s so called new ideas harken back to the days of the Great Society of LBJ. Most of it was an utter failure that we are still paying for and dealing with today!
Posted by: thefoundingfathers | December 28, 2007, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Wow- I can’t believe I have to share my air with you people. Please, stop breatihng.
Posted by: MRC | December 28, 2007, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Hillary lives in her own world–the world where being married to Bill and being his First Lady means she is, therefore, capable of being President.
This 2-for-1 deal with the Clintons is getting old. I did not ask for 2-for-1 then, nor do I ask for it now. That’s just the life-long Clinton strategy that moves Hillary into a position for which she is not qualified.
Bill moves up (think Gov of Arkansas); Hillary moves up with him (think Attorney General of Arkansas). Bill moves up (think President of the US); Hillary moves up with him (think US Senate). See the pattern, women?
Consider what America got with the first Clinton co-Presidency:
• Abuse of the powers of the office of the President
• Granting Presidential pardons to buy Hillary’s election to the Senate. As a woman who made it on my own, Hillary’s need to ride Bill’s coattails and her sense of entitlement makes me doubt her capabilities.
• Hillary’s long-suffering marriage to Bill, enabling a lifetime of sexual trysts and trying to contain the Bimbo eruptions, gives me a President without the backbone to stand up to a man. Hillary claims to be tough enough to play with the boys when, in fact, she is unable to leave a cheating husband. How will she stand up to other male leaders who see this in “Mrs.” Clinton and walk all over her?
• Being married to a former President does not make one qualified to be President.
Hillary has less experience in elected office than Barack. She’s held elected office for one Senate term plus one year and has introduced no major legislation during that time. Is this the kind of experience we want in the Oval Office?
I am not a “Hillary hater;” I am an America lover. Please consider very carefully which candidate the Democratic Party puts on the ballot. The future of this country absolutely depends on it.
Posted by: Denise | December 28, 2007, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Its unbelievable to me that anyone would think that people in this country are entitled to national health care, and that this is the ONLY reason to vote for Obama, Hillary, or Edwards.
If we are going to be entitled to health care, I might as well be entitled to a home, car, education, clothes, food, and a job, all at the “government’s expense.”
The Democrats say that there are millions without health insurance. Let’s debunk this “theory.”
Out of these millions who “can’t afford” health insurance:
1. How many have money for cell phones?
2. How many have money for Cable and Plasma TV? (lets not forget those X-Boxes, Playstations)
3. How many have money for cigarettes?
4. How many have money for beer?
5. How many go out to eat for dinner each night?
6. How many have new cars?
7. How many have animals that are fed before their own children?
8. How about those lottery tickets?
Besides all of these factors… let’s see what is actually a PRIORITY in lives of Americans.
Just because you don’t have health insurance, doesn’t mean that you don’t have ACCESS to health care.
It means you have to forgo those other hot commodities to pay for it yourself, like responsible people do.
Posted by: Entitled To ... | December 28, 2007, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
we don’t need him. we need Ron Paul!
Posted by: rpage | December 28, 2007, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
V,who do you want to elect Dick Cheney? Your experience has obviously left you imbued with the idea that conservatives have done more than liberals. And please don’t tell me they brought down the Berlin wall. My argument is not with America, whose unquestioned quality is evidenced by our chance to argue, but I do not advocate the ideology that predominates politics in this country today. I do find the lack of specificity disturbing, but I also do not find that different than politics in America during this century. If you do, perhaps you are old enough to understand that the disparity between the intellectual and the political is ever growing.
As for successful liberal policy, I’ll throw one out there for thought; CIVIL RIGHTS. I am sure a thoughtful segregationist like yourself could find fault in diversity, but then you wouldn’t have had the chance to criticize Obama. At least you can now lynch him with some righteous and paltry criticisms.
As for liberals taking over the schools, then perhaps that explains the unmatched technological prowess and artistic growth over the last fifty years and the increased influence of women and minorities, whose contributions have elevated the prowess of our universities. The continued growth of the United States as the predominate center of scientific and intellectual research in the world depends on an open-minded and accepting university system. If we are not liberal in education we are doomed to conserve the fallacies of the past. Would you like to see Mike “Quarantine” Huckabee and that reactionary right in office?
In Obama I see a hopefulness and a willingness to be bolder and more intellectual in his approach. Conservative politics have been usurped by the religious right, disdaining science and reason for a philosophy of moral certitudes and visceral reactions; a right that encourages the politics of fear and derides the evidence of reason; the evolving politics of the right that dissension against a war equates to treason, that disagreement and transparency are undemocratic, and that the truth a disdainful triviality. It was the blindness and fear mongering of the Bush government that governed the nation’s sentiment and many of its representatives. I found it refreshing and encouraging that Obama had the prescience to deny the urge to follow the fodder and exploit the fears of a nation. I prefer a leader with the bravery to hold the sword for those who deserve its justice. I aspire for an America where we debate our aggression before we regret its cost. Obama offers charisma, certainly; he offers eloquence and that offers the chance to communicate a vision. He is young and he is dynamic and he is not beset by the failures of the past. He is a new beginning and a new chance, and he is something to be feared for those who prefer America as it is, a dying, suffering, shell of a country those old liberals founded way back when.
Posted by: Rob | December 28, 2007, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Obama has the experience to change America so we will all have to live in mud huts????? That he would do it I can believe. Someone remind him that destruction is not progress.
Posted by: Scrapiron | December 28, 2007, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
YOU WANT OBAMA TO BE A “USURPER?” [Please, get a dictionary, and learn what words mean BEFORE making hysterical statements.]
YOU CLAIM THAT “EDUCATION is an AFTERTHOUGHT.” [Judas, priest, you have just announced that YOU AREN’T EVEN A HOME OWNER!]
EDUCATION CONSTITUTES the HIGHEST TAX any homeowner pays, AND YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW IT! Clearly, you don’t know what you are talking about (and probably live with your parents).
YOU CLAIM THAT AMERICANS HAVE MORE GUNS THAN BOOKS!!! That may be true in your house, but not in mine. We have approximately 8,000 books in our personal library; I can assure you we do not have more than 8,000 guns in our home.
NO, we are not a “laic” state. Aside from a good dictionary, you need to take a few courses in sociology, anthropology, history, and economics.
YOUR HYSTERICAL STATEMENTS ARE NOT CREDIBLE!!
Clearly too, you have NEVER studied Constitutional law. In fact, American elected officials adhere to the Constitution. Simply because you do not realize that President Bush has done more to spread democracy around the world does not mean it is not so. Your claim that he has “undermined democracy” IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS COMPLETE NONSENSE! If you knew anything about the Constitution you would know that the VP sends NO ONE to war. Nothing that VP Cheney has done has caused “needless and fruitless conflict.” Indeed, you are ignorant of the evil acts of totalitarian dictators; you allow them to kill millions, while you scold the purveyors of truth, democracy, and freedom.
Ad hominem attacks are not an accepted form of debate. If you had ever taken college level English you would know that. Please, stay in school; you are attempting to make credible points but your basic educational foundation is non-existent.
America is not arrogant, pretentious, or ignorant; your outlandish claims do not make it so. You praise all other civilizations; yet you are the one not dealing in reality. CAN YOU IMAGINE A MUSLIM STATE ELECTING A CHRISTIAN TO LEAD THEM? SO, WHY ARE WE “REQUIRED” TO ELECT A MUSLIM TO LEAD US??
We are not a nation of wanton materialism, and you saying so does not make it so. Neither are we now “institutionalized idiocy” nor do we have a “dumbed down electorate.” Who in the world believes that a big stick is more powerful than an agile mind? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU??? Do you actually know anything about other nations? What has caused you to have such a romantic notion of other nations? Do you not acknowledge the ignorance in Africa? The lack of charity in Eastern Europe? The slowdown of workers in central Europe? The backward nations of South America? The overcrowding in India? The pollution and problems of the Chinese? You are not dealing with reality!!!
To say that the USA is not part of the “real world” is arrogant beyond words. AMERICANS are extremely sympathetic; there is no place that we will not support with our tax dollars, nor with our individual charity. Americans pay taxes that SUPPORT THE WORLD. AMERICANS ARE MUCH MORE IN TUNE WITH THE WORLD, THAN THE WORLD IS IN TUNE WITH AMERICA. I would suggest that you grow up, read a book, and stay awake in class. You seem to praise the Koran but trash the Bible. WHICH BOOK HAS DONE MORE GOOD FOR THE WORLD??? Clearly, you don’t even know because you don’t know history. You do not know the history of Mohammad. Christians DO NOT believe that the Bible is the only “relevant” history book, so you are lying again.
You spout names of places of war, without knowing the REASON for the wars. In fact, Vietnam was a success, but you don’t even know why we fought in Vietnam. No one has EVER underestimated a “foe.” [Clearly, you have zero military background.] Your notion that Americans kill those who are different, merely because they are different, displays a degree of ignorance and arrogance that is impossible to address in this short space. You are very careless with words, and have no heed to the damage that can be done by inaccurate accusations. Your knowledge of history is pathetic. If you were a student of history you wouldn’t even make the ridiculous claims that you are making.
To claim that those who were on the receiving end of America’s war machine “did nothing to deserve such malevolence and violence” is a pathetic misunderstanding of war. You are simply a “bleeding-heart liberal” who has zero understanding of human nature, sociology, totalitarian dictatorship, communism, socialism, Naziism, Marxism, or the history of humans.
Your claim that we are TYRANTS and CONQUERORS is simply a lie. What have we EVER done that is tyrannical? What have we conquered?. YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW AMERICAN HISTORY, OR YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND OUR RELUCTANCE TO COLONIZE! You don’t understand many words that you use; you do not understand our history; you do not understand world events. We do more to build up former foes than most countries do for their friends. You are simply wrong, and you show no sign of trying to improve your own misunderstanding of world events.
Your hatred for America and Americans seems boundless. That is sad. Anger and hatred deepens depression, poisons potential, and destroys souls.
Posted by: stgeorgeschapel | December 28, 2007, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Con-ver-ted, I hope you understood the literature better in the bible than the English in my post. Never did I criticize, condemn, or hail pejoratives at the religious or Christianity. I only advertised the irony that people who are Christians are somehow inoculated against the fanaticism and its tendency to pervert the message of a religion. If you fail to see the danger of absolutism and judgment, surely you have failed to understand the teachings of Christ. I thought his tenets were of self-sacrifice, forgiveness, and understanding. Those are not the qualities of Christ I see in the right. I see a fearful Christ, an ignorant Christ, and a bellicose God, a god far from knowledge and reason.
As for who you have in your heart, may he bless your soul, but it is what is in your mind that must decide the fate of a nation. If God had only bestowed Bush and his cronies a brain. Now go beat you Bible on somebody’s else’s head or better yet knock that stupid chip out your chest and purchase a reading comprehension kit.
Posted by: Rob | December 28, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Rob, that was Dee, not me. I’m a precinct captain for Obama, no need to convince me. I hope you’re phonebanking! I’m off to get my voter IDs done. Go Obama!
And Rachel, he’s authored a lot more bills, and more substantial ones, and gotten them passed or incorporated into other bills, more than both the other two Dem frontrunners combined. They include one to clean up nuclear weapons laying around all over Eastern Europe with Sen. Luger and ethics reform with Republicans.
Posted by: V | December 28, 2007, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
You know, Im impressed with none of the ilk on either side of the damn aisle.
Any of the participating in the charade of trying to appear normal are snake oil salesman.
I cannot see a Republican or a Democrat that is leadership material. That scares the hell outta me for my kids sake.
Posted by: jeff | December 28, 2007, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Scrapiron — U R funny.
Posted by: Ratty | December 28, 2007, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Thank God for people like Rob. He is so much smarter and better informed than everybody else. Those conservatvies have no brains. I am sure he is right about that. Any intelligent person can see that every person in the right is dumb. If only we could all be more like Rob. I gotta go because I am starting my “Rob for President because he is the smartest person in the world” website. Then I am going to compose a song for him….what a blowhard pompous ######.
Posted by: jerry | December 28, 2007, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Come on people, how old are you? Do you just come here to spew?? At least have the bains to go out and do a little research before you start talking such crap. It really insults all the rest of us that actually know the facts. Obama is not and has never been a Muslim, he had a stepfather who was muslim in Indonesia. There he attended a public school that had muslim, jewish and christian students. His mother got him up at 4 am to do English and American studies as well. Also, he is not a Born Again Christian, he is a Christian, who has attended the same Christian church in Chicago for 15 years. His Grandmother in Africa is massively proud of him, she is the second wife of his father’s father and yes he has gone and visisted her as well as she has visited him. She prefers it there. You people should try reading his books and finding stuff about the effect of the inspiration that Obama bring to the people of Kenya. I’ve seen it on the web, even idiots can dig for some truth.
Posted by: Jodie | December 28, 2007, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
Dear Rob,
You are describing CONSERVATIVE VALUES in your blog – uh – comment. Conservatives don’t shout down the other side during a POLITICAL DEBATE as groups of liberals have done, so while you “debate our aggression” consider how many liberals refuse to listen to facts. They don’t want to be bothered with evaluating factual information and being able to actually agree on an issue. There are many times liberals refuse to even ALLOW a debate to be had, as is the case of man-made global warming. In the real world of science there are thousands of scientisits that DISAGREE with the THEORY of man-made global warming. If there is a possibility that it may be true even though ALL EVIDENCE points otherwise, we should at least investigate the mere thought of it. So take your whole debate issue and really make a decision based on FACT when dealing in a peer-reviewed profession. If you can’t PROVE your theory and other scientists don’t come to an overwhelming MAJORITY then you can forget trying to throw billions at it. If our politicians want to listen to a plumber about his business taxes then that’s his business then fine, but don’t #### away MY MONEY on some unproven theory. Democrats don’t see it that way. And if they do then they are cast aside (see: Lieberman). So before you blame the “reactionary right” on your ills remember this: Strom Thurmond was a Democrat first, Zell Miller has been forgotten, Moveon.org speaks for a growing number of the left and most of it done by Hollywood money and George Soros. We only want to lynch the ACTUAL TERRORISTS instead of DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED OFFICIALS that have been profoundly clear about our intent. Oil has nothing to do with it unless you don’t understand basic world market, publically traded commodities. Get an education and come back to the table. Read the menu before you make an order. Just consult the best in the field an understand what the words “is” and “concensus” mean before you even flinch to make a point. Other than that…
Posted by: Tommy | December 28, 2007, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
As a Republican I can live with Obama, but please show Hillery the door. No more Clintons! I despise that woman and everything she stands for.
Posted by: Billy Bob | December 28, 2007, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Just paid off his student loans, huh? 100 weeks of experience—and none in the area of actually running anything.
No way would I put this guy running the USA. Sure he is nice and looks good, but HELLO!!!!!!!! Anyone that thinks he is capable of being the leader of the free world is out of their mind.
Posted by: PCakes | December 28, 2007, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
I doubt either side will want to believe me. But I am a life-long Republican. And, even though Hillary would be a far easier target to defeat in the general election, I seriously hope, for the sake of America, that Obama wins the Democratic nomination.
He IS a decent man who understands people and seems to genuinely care about them. And I went the BEST Republican and the BEST Democratic candidates to go to the general election. Not because it’s good for my Republican ideals, but because it’s good for America.
In the end I will definitely be voting Mitt Romney into the presidancy, but I do not want Hillary to even have a shot! What would happen if the Republican candidate were to, god forbid, fall ill 2 weeks before the election?
You have my prayers Barack!
Posted by: Browser | December 28, 2007, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
First time I will cross party lines and vote democratic,
Hillary promises a redo. Obama promises something that no one else will… a chance to change the world for the better and bring independents and republicans like me along with him. I don’t agree with him on everything. but decency and civility is what this country needs.
Posted by: Maximillian | December 28, 2007, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Scrapiron, I took poetic license in the use of the word usurper, as you have obviously taken poetic license with the meaning of my statement. I have lived in Europe(Spain, France), Africa (south africa), and China(Hong Kong) and all offered a differing view of what is too be valued and what is to be cherished.
As for education is an afterthought, obviously you have never left your affluent gate community and entered the inner city where schools are falling down on themselves, books are unavailable, classes are inundated with students and teachers by incessant and idiotic testing requirements. Perhaps if you had read some of those 8,000 books you would understand the metaphorical nature of statements when proposing an argument.
I said the real world extends far beyond are borders, but is not limited to them. What was difficult to understand in my statement.
As for ad hominem arguments not being acceptable in a college debate, thank god we are posting a message board, and not competing for a trophy.
Did you even read my statement or did you take the Dick and George class of information and understanding, its significance ,and the dissemination of truth?
When did Obama become Muslim and when did I “require” you to vote for him? The pervasive fallacy of your arguments is amazingly convincing and your perversion and downright manipulation of what I said awe-inspiring, but I love how you attribute statements and meaning to my response that an eighth grade graduate could see to be completely oblivious to original statement. You even interject to add statements for me like an aspiring speech writer. Impressive.
I didn’t praise the Koran, but is an excellent read. You might try it sometime. Your worldliness inspires visions of Marco Polo and Magellan and your knowledge of revisionist and propagandist history motivates a certain thought of pity.
Vietnam, now there was a military success on the highest level and the ultimate victory. learn to admit we achieved nothing but massive death. Obviously the only history books you have ventured to read are part of the public school system.
In my statement I was referencing the aggressions in Iraq, the idea of pre-emptive war as a protective policy, and the destruction and danger it has wreaked. I have lived in many place and I am amazed that a man can claim to be educated and extrapolate what you have from my statement. Their is no lucidity that can penetrate the aura of your superior methods of debate-falsehood, misrepresentations, and fallacies.
You probably still believe that Woodrow Wilson was a pacifist ( no President presided over more military operations in the Americas than that old softy) and that Iraq was truly about terrorism. Your studies in constitutional law have brought you little of the ideology on which it was based and even less understanding of the men who wrote it.
My anger is reserved for the politicians who have desecrated the very foundations of our country. When did we become the storm to dictate the direction of another country’s history? When did our judgment become so infallible and absolute? It is a lack of worldliness and your ignorance of history that blinds your eyes to the failings in this country that have beset so many other decadent countries and empires of the past. You are a man that believes to question his country is to disdain it, but I am a man that believes to improve our country is too truly love it. I believe we must debate the repercussion of every action before it becomes a regret, that is more democratic and brave to stand against the tyranny, yes tyranny of a government who makes war on those who have not wronged us and exploit fear. I believe that the greatest armament present in a democracy is a educated mind, you seem to believe war is the ultimate statement of patriotism. I would counter might is not always right.
Do you think Washington, Jefferson, or Madison would approve? If so, then you know even less of our nation’s history than I thought.
I believe in the greatness of America and I believe its preservation begins with moving away from the same convenient fallacies you present in your argument. The basis of any debate is to understand your opponent’s argument. To do that you must actually take the time to interpret and analyze it. Your argument wreaks of the same arrogance that we are the pathfinders of the world, that we are the only culture than can be autonomous and create democracy. This is not a debate about the Marshall Plan, the rebuilding of Japan and its motives, but of the politics of a presidency and nation today. Who would argue that are postwar altruism was wrong? It was a powerful lesson learned from the failures of WWI. Who would argue against many of America’s actions?
Who would deny its many failures?
Posted by: Rob | December 28, 2007, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
I’m a Republican and I’ll be voting for Obama in the general election. With that said, if the winner turned out to be a Republican, I would be respectful and supportive of their presidency. The only candidate that would make me avoid the news like a plague in would be another Billary presidency. Everybody else I could live with.
Posted by: Debbie | December 28, 2007, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Look into Obama’s church and previous career as a community organizer. You will find a radical under those vague bromides for change.
Posted by: Claire W Solt, PhD | December 28, 2007, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Some idiot poster before me (and I’m being polite) indicates that perhaps America isn’t the greatest country in the world. Just produced the greatest civilization man has ever seen, and even though younger by a “few thousand years” is the only super power. By the way, if we are so hated, why do people risk their lives to get here?
Posted by: Samual Adams | December 28, 2007, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Obama lives in a mansion which is why he is trying to appeal to us common folks! Wake-up Iowa..he’s a phoney!!!
Posted by: Kevin H | December 28, 2007, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Jerry, thanks for the intellectually engaging and rationale response. I took time to respond at length because I wanted to express my thoughts as lucidly as possible.
Scrapiron, forgive me I meant to respond to Stgeorgeschapel and I apologize to V as well. V, Keep kickin tail for Obama.
Posted by: Rob | December 28, 2007, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
The fact is the American people can’t afford to elect either Obama or Hillary Clinton since neither has any valuable foreign policy experience!
These times are too dangerous(Bhutto’s assassination, etc) to turn the presidency over to a Novice!
Senator John McCain has the experience and demeanor to handle the job!
We need a steady hand at the wheel.
John McCain!
Posted by: reaganfan | December 28, 2007, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
“The man is a great orator, But the capacity to tell an engaging story is not what makes a great leader.
Unfortunatly, he does not have a clue how the real world works.”
Yeah, kind of reminds me of Ronald Reagan.
Posted by: kingoftheworld | December 28, 2007, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Hello???? did everyone miss the point???
how does having your grandmother living in a hut in Africa translates to have more experience in international relations????
how is he tested in international diplomacy and policy by visiting grandma at the hut??….
You might not like Hillary Clinton but even while having “tea” she worked hard during her husband’s administration, she was an outstanding first lady and she is a great senator that deserves respect.
while Hillary was having tea with Bhutto, Edward doing trials .. Barack was smoking crack..
but oh wait!! we can’t bring that up can we????…sure we democrats can’t because we take pride on being liberal..but come the general elections, no republican will think twice before using any cheap shot to their advantage.
I can already picture them, any one of them will say the great things they were doing for America while Barack Hussein Obama was smoking crack..and I don’t have a problem but the people will buy the BS and show it at the poll
WAKE UP , THESE ARE JUST THE PRIMARIES!!! THINK OF THE BIG PICTURE AND YOU’LL SEE WHY OBAMA WONT WIN!!!!
Posted by: Gab | December 28, 2007, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
I consider myself a democrat and I’m very dissapointed by the candidates that I have to choose from. Hilary’s experience is bunk: Where was she on Rwanda? What was she doing to hunt Bin Laden? What has she done as a Senator? Obama seems to have gotten this far by being young, charismatic and smart. He and his supporters talk about change and bringing people together but why should I believe in him? He is a doctrinaire liberal so how is he different. John Edwards is in it for his own ego not the poor.
Posted by: Michael | December 28, 2007, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
I love it when Obama supporters insult the general intelligence of Americans. Can you shrink this contempt into one pro-Obama bumper sticker? The Democratic Party has morphed into something strange and terrible. The Republicans in their own way are just as bad.
Posted by: S.A. Smith | December 29, 2007, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I AM TIRED OF ALL OF THE INEXPRIENCED PEOPLE CLAIMING TO HAVE THE ANSWERS TO EVERY PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY. I AM ONLY INTERESTED IN ELECTING SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH THE NUTS WHO KILLED OUR BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE IN NEW YORK OR SOMEONE WHO SHOWS ME THAT THEY CAN HANDLE ANY SITUATION AS THIS IF THEY EVER TRY THIS AGAIN. FOR GOD SAKES AMERICA STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.
Posted by: CLAIRE | December 29, 2007, 12:18 am 12:18 am
PLEASE REMEMBER THIS FOREVER
Worse than you thought & worth remembering and this came from a Democrat. (not me)
Dear Mr. Ex President Clinton,
I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, “Thank
me, I voted for Clinton-Gore.” So, I sat down and
reflected on that, and I am sending my “Thank you”
for what you have done, specifically:
1. Thank you for introducing us to Gennifer
Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle
Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick.
Did I leave anyone out?
2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral
sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a
little older to discuss it with him, but now he
knows more about it than I did as a senior in college.
3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment
in the work place (especially the White House) and
on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what
the meaning of “it” is. It really is great to know
that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person
may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.
4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of
impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating
that the ridiculous plot of the movie “Wag the Dog”
could be plausible after all.
5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent,
Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look
honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John
Kennedy look moral.
6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses
who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who
have fled the country to avoid testifying about
Democratic campaign fund raising.
7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions,
and 4 imprisonment’s from the Whitewater “mess” and
the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions
(so far) in the other “Clinton” scandals.
8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half,
“gutting” much of our foreign policy, and flying all
over the world on “vacations” carefully disguised as necessary trips.
9 Thank you, also, for “finding” millions of
dollars (I really didn’t need it in the first place,
and I can’t think of a more deserving group of
recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars)
for all of your globe-trotting. I understand you,
the family and your cronies have logged in more time
aboard Air Force One than any other administration.
10. Now that you’ve left the White House, thanks
for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted
felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin
society.
(Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)
11. Thanks also for removing the White House
silverware. I’m sure that Laura Bush didn’t like the
pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts
you’ve received from your “friends.”
12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing
of the White House for vandalizing and destroying
government property on the way out. I also
appreciate remo ving all of that excess weight
(China, silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap,
pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1.
The weight savings means burning less
fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel.
Thank you!
13. Please ensure that Hillary enjoys
the $8 million dollar advance for her “tell-all”
book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your
memoirs. Who says crime doesn’t pay!
14. The last and most important point – thank you
for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free.
Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in
Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and
imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with
the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to
release so-called “political prisoners”. However,
the Israelis would not release any with blood on
their hands.. The American President at the time,
Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of Stat e, Warren
Christopher, “insisted” that all prisoners be
released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and
eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into
Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was
reported by many of the American TV networks at the
time that the terrorists were first identified. It
was censored in the US from all later reports. Why
shouldn’t Americans know the real truth?
What a guy!!
If you agree that the American public must be made
aware of these facts, pass this on. God bless
America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my
taxes so wisely and frugally.
SINCERELY,
A US Citizen
PS. Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore
for “inventing” the Internet, without which I would
not be able to send this wonderful, factual message.
>
AND THE REST OF THE STORY Hillary Rodham Clinton,
as a New York State Senator, now comes under the
“Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan,” which
means that even if she never gets reelected, she
STILL receives her Congression al salary until she
dies. (Wo uld it not be nice if all Americans were
pension eligible after only 4 years?)
If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary
until HE dies. He is already getting his
Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary
outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she
dies. Guess who pays for that?
WE DO!
It’s common knowledge that in order for her to
establish NY residency, they purchased a million
dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York.
Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service
protection for life. Still makes sense.
Here is where it becomes interesting. Their
mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month.
BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the
acreage to house the Secret Service agents.
The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000
monthly rent for the use of that extra residence,
which is just about equal to their mortgage payment.
This means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the
Clinton’s salary, mortgage, transportation, safety
and security, as well as the salaries for their 12
man staff — and, this is all perfectly legal!
When she runs for President, will you vote for her?
How many people can YOU send this to?
WAKE UP AMERICA………………
Posted by: Janice | December 29, 2007, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I don’t care if Obama looks good or sounds good, we don’t need a President who refuses to pledge allegiance to our own flag. And he has ZERO executive experience – the President of the United States is the CHIEF EXECUTIVE and has the most important job in the world. Why give it to a rookie with no solid ideas, just nice sounding rhetoric?
Posted by: lc | December 29, 2007, 12:41 am 12:41 am
Thanks Janice for posting how corrupt both the Clintons are. But just remember, Obama is no less a socialist, nanny-state government lover, liberal democrat than Edwards or Clinton.
Posted by: Samual Adams | December 29, 2007, 12:51 am 12:51 am
If Obama is normal, then so was Charlie Manson, Hitler, Malcom X, Jimmy ‘peanutty’ Carter, Ma Barker, Jimmy Hoffa, Billy ‘the mack’ Clinton, Dennis “I ain’t crazy” Kucinich, Osam bin “bombing” Laden, Lindsey Lohan, Britney Spears, Will “Hitler is cool” Smith, “Dingy” Harry Reid, Mitt Romney, Johnny “HAIR” Edwards, and George “I C terrorists” Bush! They’re all nuttier than THE PLANTERS PEANUT
MAN, DUDE! Who cares which one of those looney, monkeys wins? I sure as heck, don’t!
Posted by: Yobama Mammy | December 29, 2007, 1:34 am 1:34 am
Anyone who wants to be President because they think it’s a “step up” is an idiot. It’s a miserable 24/7 job that ends with most of the country disliking you. Then you get to turn over the job to another idiot who is even hungrier than you for your miserable job. God! You people are morons if you believe that the presidency is some kind of plum assignment. There are lots more ways to “step up” without selling out your body and soul. Go to B-school and get a real job, or start a business. You people are not living in the real world.
Posted by: Patrick C. | December 29, 2007, 1:54 am 1:54 am
Oofdah! I just wasted too much time in reading “comments” on a stupid item by a young aspiring “Drudgster.” I’m now glad I don’t get on the blogs of many of these fine “MEDIA NETWORKS.” I was rather impressed by the long list of the BILLARY Clinton dirty laundry. I thought SALON had covered much of the truth RE: that couple, but I must be mistaken. Of course I’m MISTAKEN, I do not notice these rants of varied kinds of people often. I still say “It is a FREE country, so I guess all the comments (irrational or not) are worth being placed on our fine fiber optics lines & servers.” Oh BOY! will I be glad when the 2008 campaigns/election’s over. BTW, I’m praying for the best of the least of these my brethren, Obama. Bill Richardson has the resume, it just doesn’t click w/ the PEOPLE or MEDIA, I guess. I can’t understand why he wants to leave a beautiful state like New Mexico. To go through this trial of fire by media & all-knowing electorate, they all have to be “narcissistic” don’t they? (to “people concerned about dictionary usage to ‘look up’ facts” I did check on that word’s spelling.) HEY! Fire UP, YOU INTELLECTUALS!!!
Posted by: Marilyn NOT Manson | December 29, 2007, 3:00 am 3:00 am
Which one has more experience depends on what kind of “experience” you are looking for. Hillary clearly has much more experience lining her pockets, and running the Clinton white house as a personal fiefdom. Hillary has experience getting oodles of contributions from Pakistani billionaires, Chinese moneymen, and numerous other shady fat-cats. Those people don’t give money for nothing, they expect something in return. Obama gets most of his money from real people. Hillary is a better liar, and is more experienced at it too. She does NOT have any more foreign policy experience than Obama. Hillary did not hold a clearance, and could not attend foreign policy meetings when Bill was Pres. Hillary’s executive experience is really limited to her small staffs that she had as First Lady and as a current Senator, which isn’t that much more than Obama has. Obama actually has a lot more experience in elected office – at the state level.
Posted by: Andrew P | December 29, 2007, 3:08 am 3:08 am
barack Hussein osama has as much chance of becoming the president as someone named Hitler becoming the president of Austria or Germany.
Besides, we all know that its his wife Michelle Obama who is running.
Posted by: Raffia | December 29, 2007, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Yes, Hillary has experience that Marilyn spoke of, but Barrack has nothing. Nada. Rien. zippo.
Neither is qualified for president.
Mitt Romney is. Argue all you want, but he has the solid family, solid academic credentials, solid business background (he has had to actually work under the laws of the land and realizes the crushing effects of the socialism that both hillary and barrack want to implement, and he has tons of executive experience from realizing how to efficiently run businesses, how to cut wasteful spending and how to run a state.
Mitt will win.
Posted by: Apollo | December 29, 2007, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Obama said, “…like my grandmother who lives in a tiny VILLAGE in Africa.” He said nothing about “a tiny hut.” Sunlen Miller & ABC News needs to get their quotes straight.
Posted by: Thomas | December 29, 2007, 4:16 am 4:16 am
I guess if BO was running for Pres of Kenya then this would be a nice story, or if HRC would really be any thing other than a NEO-CON herself(and secretive at that)who is Number 1 on the corruption list, maybe having a lesbian tryst with a Muslim, and is riding the shirttail of her husband(?) then the Dems might have a choice.
Hunter/Rice ’08
Posted by: Benjamin9 | December 29, 2007, 5:08 am 5:08 am
I can’t say that any of the current candidates impress me this year. I fall into the ABH (anyone but Hillary) group. Nobody on either side wants to deal with our illegal immigration problem but the Republicans seem to more actively want to protect us. I am also fearful of letting the Government take over the health care industry. I have already seen what a dismal job they have done with Medicare, Medicaid and the VA hospitals. Oh, and Rob, it was Eisenhower, a Republican, that signed the first Civil Rights act in 1957 so we’re still waiting for that one thing the liberals have accomplished. I do hate to try to differentiate Democrats and Republicans since it is the liberal vs. conservative ideologies that are really at play. Past Democrats sounded much like todays Republicans and would probably be run out of the current party like Sen. Lieberman.
Posted by: Kevin | December 29, 2007, 5:14 am 5:14 am
I am less concerned with who becomes President, than who is elected to Congress. With a liberal Congress, we will get a liberal Supreme Court and more looney leftist judges who are soft on crime but punitive towards business. The President can do very little that Congress doesn’t allow. If we get a Democrat President next time, we need a Republican Congress to act as a check & balance.
Posted by: Joyce | December 29, 2007, 5:43 am 5:43 am
Well, the drudge crew sure has arrived. All those questions about Obama’s family — like “why does Obama’s grandma live in Africa!” are pretty naive. Maybe because she’s Kenyan, and wants to?
Posted by: FZ, Edinburgh | December 29, 2007, 5:44 am 5:44 am
I don’t care where Obama’s grandmother comes from or what religion they are. I am however concerned that the “church” he belongs to is a separatist church. How is THAT good for America? We are already polarized. Do we need a President who believes blacks should be separate from other Americans? This is insanity.
Posted by: Rachel | December 29, 2007, 5:49 am 5:49 am
I wonder how many people on here (% wise) are REAL people and not hired scribes for the multiple candidates…
I worked the “Trump for President” campaign in 2000 at the Reform PArty as an “actor’… let me say this…
This process is an unequivocably… CORRUPT system… I should know, I participated in the corrupting … including manipulating a detroit free press straw poll…
as penance, Ive stopped voting for President and only vote locally…
but Obama is the best choice for the exact reasons his competitors state…
He is the LEAST experienced …
in WASHINGTON DC, BS.
Posted by: tim w | December 29, 2007, 5:52 am 5:52 am
as for the religious zealots on here…
PEOPLE like you are what prompted the separation of CHURCH AND STATE!
this is a free country… and it is our inalienable right to worhsip whatever or whomever we want… including aliens.
do you realize your bigoted statement violates the founding principals of this country?
Posted by: tim w | December 29, 2007, 5:56 am 5:56 am
Tim- First of all, I am not a religious person by any stretch, let alone a zealot! Secondly, separatism isn’t a religion. It just happens in this case to be promoted by a church. So it would seem more accurate to call Obama’s Church a bunch of zealots and bigots. Segregation was outlawed in this nation, or has that part of history been rewritten too?
Posted by: Rachel | December 29, 2007, 6:36 am 6:36 am
Liberalism, it really is a mental disorder. And from most of the post above it can’t be cured.
Posted by: Smokey | December 29, 2007, 7:15 am 7:15 am
Interesting that as a Commanding General in the “War on Wal-Mart” he mentioned that his wife shops at Target…
Posted by: Real Conservative | December 29, 2007, 7:49 am 7:49 am
WOW!!!
I can’t wait to hear his first hundred days. Land redistribution, government takeover of the medical system which will be turned over to your local DMV, early release of prisoners……..welcome to Zimbabwe folks.
Posted by: JOE SIXPACK | December 29, 2007, 7:53 am 7:53 am
Obama’s comments are insightful and on the mark. He has exactly the kind of experience necessary to lead – experience shedding OLD BAGGAGE to win NEW RESULTS. He will do this both internationally and domestically, rebuilding American credibility abroad and restoring consensus at home. Both of the goals REQUIRE a person from OUTSIDE DC. A person not invested in a broken system, a system that fails to provide results to the American people that pay serious amounts of money in taxes to get those results.
Obama will transcend political divisions and rebuild consensus. He’ll get diminish the role of health care lobbyists and others in the legislative process and he’ll respect the Constitution and rule of law in ways we haven’t seen from the Executive in a long while.
The beauty of American government – the single most important American contribution to the world – is our imperfect yet determined insistence on checks and balances. Checks and balances are a legal institution but they also make up a guiding principle of democratic moderation and inclusiveness. All throughout the Bush-Clinton Era of DC politics, we have witnessed the sacrifice of American consensus and the US Constitution at the feet of partisan warefare and internecine squabbling. It does not need to be. All we need to do is elect the incredibly gifted, clear-headed, and principled Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama. If you want to see a ‘world class genius’ take office and guide our country, Obama is the one to elect.
Posted by: Mo | December 29, 2007, 8:18 am 8:18 am
The reason we’re hearing so many moronic statements during the current primary campaign is because so many morons are running in both parties, and because they’re ALL morons, they naturally assume that WE are also morons.
Posted by: BlueMax372 | December 29, 2007, 9:07 am 9:07 am
It seems awfully strange that Obama would boast about his world travel experience when he has never traveled to Europe in his life (He once took a flight that had a layover in London, but that hardly counts). While it is true that President Bush had also never been to Europe before becoming president, that is hardly encouraging.
Posted by: Chris | December 29, 2007, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Bush Sr. – Mr. Clinton – Bush Jr. – Mrs. Clinton.
Guess we have bought into the notion of Royal Families – American Style!
Posted by: Pat | December 29, 2007, 9:43 am 9:43 am
I love the liberal-ecowacko thinking that goes, “Obama’s Granny lives in a hut, but that’s OK since she is living a sustainable lifestyle.”
How nice.
The translation is, “Great. All of you peasants live in huts while we, the eco-elite, live in our nice homes and mansions. We know what’s best for you, but you’ll never find me living as I demand of you!! Viva Mother Earth! All Hail Al Gore, the High Priest of the Church of Climate Change!”
Posted by: T Nichol | December 29, 2007, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Obama has only platitudes and a few insane ideas such as attacking Pakistan who is too poor to even protect their own candidates for election let alone go on goose chases in pashtun mountains to find terrorists. Did Obama ever consider what peace loving, democratic, INDIA might have to say about the idea of destablizing nuclear Pakistan by forcing Musharaf to step down? HMMM? That alone is an indication that Obama is INEPT when it comes to foreign policy. He needs to keep his mouth shut and grow up. Besides, the only reason he is in office is that a corrupt LA judge (appointed by ultra libieral Jerry Brown) illegally unsealed Ryan’s divorce papers for the Chicago Tribune to present unsubstantiated, unproven allegations by an angry spouse that were NEVER intended to be publicized. Great way to start your ‘legacy’ huh? Get your foot in the door via FRAUD …
Posted by: Mike M. | December 29, 2007, 9:54 am 9:54 am
By the way – vote for Duncan Hunter. He’s the one of the only true conservatives running for office and we NEED another real conservative because we haven’t had one since Ronnie Reagan.
Posted by: Mike M. | December 29, 2007, 10:01 am 10:01 am
After reading over these posts, I’m even more convinced that Obama is the right candidate. The anti-Obama posters have a few things in common: they resort to name calling, they are illogical, they are often venomous and bigoted, and they offer little that is substantive. If you want to denounce Obama, then do so in way that is credible. The fact that so many of these anti-Obama posts lack substance is very telling.
Posted by: Cixous | December 29, 2007, 10:13 am 10:13 am
I was sure that he was going to top it off with “….and I slept in a Holiday Inn wherever I went”.
Posted by: Curious Dems | December 29, 2007, 10:34 am 10:34 am
Obama’s grandmother living in a hut in Africa rings about as true as Bill Clinton remembering Black churches burning in Arkansas, Hillary being named after Sir Edmund Hillary and a lifelong Yankees fan, “I only want to be a Senator from NY”,”I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky”, “I was focused like a laser on getting OBL”, and anyother utterance that ever came out of the mouth of a Clinton. The Clintons must hate the internet which is one of the reasons they despised its inventor, Algore.
Posted by: Another Dem Lie | December 29, 2007, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Not that it really will make a difference, “Another Dem Lie,” since your mind appears to be closed, but Obama does indeed have a grandmother living in Kenya, and the account of his visit there in 2006 is easily accessed online.
Posted by: Cixous | December 29, 2007, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Rhetoric without substance
Vote Obama 08
Posted by: Stevo | December 29, 2007, 10:54 am 10:54 am
“Obama will pull us together?????”
That’s his and Oprah’s idiotic campaign slogan. He has done nothing and has nothing to say, no plan, no goal, zip. Only pie in the sky liberals will vote for him because of his skin color, he has nothing else going for him for anyone else.
Posted by: Bugsly | December 29, 2007, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Sorry, Bugsly, but I’ve been following the demise of the public school system thanks to the inept tampering of educrats (who generally lacked any practical experience), and it has been an equal opportunity SNAFU by both the Democrats and the Republicans. Politicians should keep their fingers out of educational policy; they generally have no idea what they’re doing. No Child Left Behind is a good example. What an incredibly expensive fiasco.
Posted by: Cixous | December 29, 2007, 11:13 am 11:13 am
As a Republican… I have to say that if it comes down to Obama or Giuliani… Obama gets my vote. If it comes down to Hillary and anyone… anyone gets my vote.
20 years of Bush/Clinton/Bush is enough… enough… enough.
Posted by: Dutch | December 29, 2007, 11:21 am 11:21 am
ABC News is becoming FOX “news”. They don’t think Obama can be President but don’t want to look like they aren’t progressive. And hey all the negative crap sells.
ABC use to be real journalism. What a shame.
Posted by: Pam | December 29, 2007, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Tim W: PLEASE DO NOT TELL THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT THE AMERICAN POLITICAL PROCESS IS CORRUPT BECAUSE IT IS NOT.
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT MOST NATIONS WOULD DO ANYTHING TO HAVE A SYSTEM AS CREDIBLE AS OURS????
YOU ARE ONLY EMBARRASSING YOURSELF WITH YOUR COMPLETE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE?
DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN HISTORY?
DO YOU HAVE A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS?
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE.
And, do not even begin to try to compare that ridiculous “reform” party (or anything you did with them) with the Republican Party or the Democrat Party.
Analogy: Draw a picture of a football on a piece of notebook paper. Hold the piece of paper with the football on it. Throw it up in the air and try to catch it. Put the picture of the football under your arm and run with it. Now, compare your experience with the piece of paper drawing of a football to John Elway’s entire career. THAT is the difference between whatever you did with the reform party and our lifetime of work for the major parties.
You are very opinionated, but you are like the blind men and the elephant. I have worked for 40 years for my party and have friends who work for the other party and OUR EXPERIENCES ARE GENUINE. They are so genuine THAT WE HAVE DEVOTED OUR LIVES TO the effort. Clearly, you are making observations without having enough information, and you are drawing conclusions that are not based on logical conclusions.
Since you cannot see the forest for the trees, I will ask you how well the reform party performed. How are they today? DOESN’T THAT PROVE THAT NOT DOING YOUR BEST DOESN’T PAY????
And, until you have done GENUINE HONEST work for one of the major parties, stop saying that ANYTHING IS CORRUPT OTHER THAN THE SILLY BUSINESS YOU SIGNED UP TO JOIN.
Posted by: stgeorgeschapel | December 29, 2007, 11:24 am 11:24 am
How can anyone of you… in your wildest imaginations… believe that “experience” translates into effective performance?
If you need proof… just look at what 8 years of Bush and co’s “experience” has gotten us?
Give me honesty over “experience” anyday.
Posted by: Dutch | December 29, 2007, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Cixous Anti-Obama name callers? Remember the discount rate MoveOn received for the General Betrayus ad? Too bad the Democratic Party of today has become ultra left wing socialist. JFK would not be allowed in today’s Democatic Party. It’s why I am now republican, today’s version of Democrats of bygone days.
Posted by: BL | December 29, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Also, immediately cutting off aid to Pakistan is about the most insane idea I have heard yet this silly season. Is Mr. Obambi Hussein getting his talking points from Dennis “UFO” Kucinich and/or Ron “Anti-Semite” Paul?
Posted by: Robert Marley | Dec 28, 2007 4:31:10 PM
I thought Bob Marley died and went to reefer heaven…Turns out he was re-incarnated as a neo-con warmongering facist who thinks that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” mentality that has kept non democratic regimes in power in the Middle East and legitimizing their murderous human rights legacies with an implied acceptance in the form of billions of US dollars of unaccounted for aid is some sort of solution.
Get the hell out of the Middle East, pay market price for oil(notice how the price per barrel dropped after the NIE report?)and let the crazies all kill themselves and let God or Allah sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
Yah Mahn…Rob Marley is one crazie loon who should be given a gun and a one way ticket to Bagdhad. Get it all out of your system or go quali hunting with Dr. No.
Ron Paul vs. Barack Obama would make for an interesting Superbowl in November 2008.
Posted by: Paul | December 29, 2007, 11:53 am 11:53 am
I really hope Obama wins the nomination and would gladly donate to his campaign if he wins in Iowa. He will be the easiest Democrat opponent for a Republican to beat in a landslide with Republicans taking back Congress.
Posted by: Hotguy | December 29, 2007, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Libs, keep dreaming. Conservatism is what makes this nation great (to a lesser degree, so does public discourse, and in that capacity you are effective, useful, and absolutely in the minority). A conservative leader in time of war is what we need. Clinton will be a disaster for America. She will be hated for 8 years this is not what AMerica needs. We need someone who can unite us as a people. No one on the lib end of things can do this. Obama, surprisingly, is the only possible Dem in the bucket.
Posted by: fezziwig | December 29, 2007, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
Obama’s “tea” comment is sexist, plain and simple. If Obama is going to engage in sexism, this beggards consideration of other stereotypes, i.e., African American male’s misogyny. You can’t have it both ways, to play the sexism card and then deflect scrutiny of misogyny.
Posted by: Robert Dalziel | December 29, 2007, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Damn! hillary must have sent all her campaign staff out to post on here. His comment about remembering what it is like to be normal was a great thing. I’m a republican, can’t remember ever voting for a dem for pres, but I am seriously thinking about supporting Obama this year even though I have many dissagreements with with. The main reason being that I’m sick of all the “Politics as usual” in DC, I’m sick of the Babyboomers and their divisiveness and frankly it’s just time for something new. If Obama turns out to be that new blood great! If he doesn’t then I’ll support somebody else in 4 years.
Posted by: Cam | December 29, 2007, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
I would never vote for Obama, but I like him a hell of a lot more than Hillary.
The thought of her in the White House again makes me sick.
Posted by: Tobias | December 29, 2007, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
We have “hillary the hypocrtie” promising everything to everyone. We have Obama touting his world travels yet he fails to vote many, many times.
We have king edward the hairstylist…and on the republican side, it “ain’t” much better.
Wouldn’t it be refreshing if our “leaders”???? would just tell us in plain english (or should I say ‘espanol’ what their solutions are to illegal immigration, health care, social security, etc….
to net it out, with these morons running, the good old USA “ain’t” got a chance.
Posted by: whitehousewatcher | December 29, 2007, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Bill and Hillary-in touch with America.
Feeling our pain!!!
Can you imagine?
They never met a payrool, never paid a health insurance bill, never had to worry late at night where their daughter was(Secret Service) have lived in ‘public housing’ for 12-14 years. The house they live in in NY was purchased by McCaullif(it’s true check it out) He, McCauliff ‘loaned” them the entire amount and has ‘forgiven’ the loan. McCalullif got the money from a very, very ‘funny’ stock hit.
And now we have Obama, a millionaire, visiting his grandfather in some hut in Africa…..bet he turns up here.
Folks, these people do not live like us, act like us, struggle to make their way like us, and feel NO pain let alone ours.
They are NOT like us!!!!! They are lying
about virtually everything.
Sam Russo
Posted by: Sam Russo | December 29, 2007, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Hillary in the White House is disturbing. However, Obama is a multi-millionaire, and he lets his Grandmother
live in a hut in Africa. If he can’t get
his own blood out of the hut, what is he
going to be able to do for us? Does this
mean we can look forward to “Witch Doctor” Health Care”? Maybe his opponents
should use that phrase, because it applies to his own family.
Posted by: Rick | December 29, 2007, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
How exactly can Obama bring us together?He is just as polarizing as Hillary if not more. He shares very little in common with my values. I view him to be a very liberal person, not somebody who is moderate and going to have something in common with just about everybody. Its fine that he has his own ideas, values and beliefs, but he’ll have to do a lot of compromising if he thinks he can be the person to pull this country together. I think this country is going to get worse (polarization) before it get’s better, I don’t see any of the canidates from either party that can bridge this polarization gap.
Posted by: dogbert1918 | December 29, 2007, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
As an expat for 20 years I should be president. Nothing makes us more a international laughing stock than to have the two top contenders argue that they should lead the world’s only superpower because: (a) they lived overseas when they were a child, or (b) they met many famous people as the spouse of a not-particularly-successful-in-the-realm-of-foreign-policy president.
Posted by: Craig Harrison | December 29, 2007, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
The talk of the day is sis race play a part in the Hillary’s New Hampshire victory. Conversely, talk of Barack’s support among South Carolina’s africa-a,erican community will surely tilt the state in his favor. Are we missing something here? So, these talking heads think aloud about the possibility of race as a factor in New Hampshire, but then comment on how Obama’s black supporters are likely to give him South Carolina… Do you see the problem wih those two statements? I’ve got a problem with that, and I’ll tell primary voters this: Vote for whomever you want. You don’t have to feel guilty about voting for a white candidate who happens to come form America’s heartland, born and bred. Obama’s heart may very well lie in Kenya, where his family lives in huts while he counts his personal fortune. Obama has alluded to his wish to send America into Darfur, to spill American blood in order to save Africa. Meanwhile, Americans pang with guilt over not voting for a black man. Are African-Americans guilty over voting for an experienced, tried and true woman candidate who just happens to be white? What’s going on in this country, this double standard; I’ve never liked one-way streets, do you? Rick G
Posted by: rick cutrone | January 9, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I just need to know why is Obama’s grandmother is living in poverty. Do we really think this guy can put America in a better place and he has not done that for his own family. People be realistic. You are not going to let a “foreign native” become president. Who are we kidding here.
Posted by: M. K. | January 10, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Yeahh! Obama! So many, so wrong. Good job from Canada!
Posted by: S.B. | January 29, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm