Clinton Attacks Obama on Health Plan

Clinton’s plan asks that everyone chip into the system, it is about personal responsibility. Everyone should pay into the system, similar to social security and medicare taxes. So much for together and yes we can. It seems like the working class on up will pay for everyones healthcare, once again squeezing us until we are poor too. Asking everyone to pay is not a big deal, it comes out to less than @30 dollars amount, it might be $350 a year for everyone, maybe more, but it will certainly be less than what it costs now if you don’t have health insurance.
So much for change. Obama sounds like the same old same old democrat in washington, take from the people who work and give to those that don’t work.
Not having it. Vote Hillary.

“Sen. Hillary Clinton, for the first time, directly accused Sen. Barack Obama of leaving millions of people out of his health care plan because of politics.”
Hillary hadn’t attacked him over it, because she knew what she was doing. I respect Hillary in that. Obama truly has left millions out of his healthcare plan for a stupid argument: “The real difference here is that Barack Obama doesn’t start by having the government force people to buy health insurance if they can’t afford it, and that’s why his plan does more to bring down the cost of health care than any other plan in this race.”
What a narrow, insular perspective; a smug remark. And he also isn’t making everyone get it. Everyone knows that there are many people out there who are so bogged down with important responsibilities, they won’t get it while they can. Has Obama thought of all this? He certainly hasn’t shown that he has.
Obama deserves the criticism.

Obama seems to win that argument handily whenever he gets a rebuttal. I don’t see how this works for Hillary unless she’s hoping people don’t hear that rebuttal.

HEY ROSS
“forcing” and paying penalties???? I am being forced to take care of my family because I go to work every day, and because I believe it is my responsibility. People don’t by Health Insurance, not becuase they can’t afford, because they don’t want to pay for it. Put anything on the ballot, like asking for higher taxes or building new roads, people would vote it down. Forcing people to pay in certain instances when costs and uninsured are sprialing out of control, makes complete sense to me and the rest of the people voting in the primaries. Also you make sound as though the poor are going to have to pay, whihch is untrue, the poor are covered through social security and medicare, and it state’s, which all 50 do, support the poor through other healthcare plans. g

Whatever Obama isn’t, he sure is a politician. I wonder what Spanish phrase he is coming come up with for “his” health plan. Don’t get me wrong, I do want Obama to be President- in 2016. Hillary is right on track.

Actually, Obama supported a single payer health care plan in 2003..
“And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see.”
and in a interview with meet the press he suggested imposing a penalty on those who avoided purchasing health care.
“one way of avoiding them waiting till they get sick is to charge a penalty if they try to sign up later so that they have an incentive to sign up immediately”

Mandates are a concession to the insurance industry, and somehow Clinton claims this is politically ambitious of her!? Obama’s position is courageous precisely because it is less of a compromise to special interests. Ask someone who makes minimum wage if they want to be forced to buy health insurance they cannot afford. Then ask the CEO of a health insurance company if they want poor people to be forced to join their plan. I am sure you can predict which one favors Clinton’s position and which one rejects it.

No Matter what the Health care plan is, HRC is not the person who can deliver it. She was in the white house for 8 years plus 7 years in the senate why dont we have universal health care?
Because HRC is not competent and is not good at bringing people together for a common cause. She is divisive and close minded. She things she knows it all and hence will always fail.
She turn up the heat on republican who by the way are american and now she wants to deal with them? Sorry?
Obama is the only atypic politician who can deliver on all those issue.
Obama is smart, visionary, flexible thinker and closer to people than clinton who thinks that people should shut up and just accept whatever she has to say.

First of all, we have to remember that we’re all arguing about which health care plan is better. This is a good problem to have, and we have to remember to stay united on the fact that a universal health care plan, mandated or not, is better than paying money to private insurance companies for less than ideal coverage.
Barack’s plan is clearly the way to go. Republicans and big lobbyist groups will try to fight universal health care by saying it takes away our freedom of choice. Barack’s plan silences that claim. Competition between government and private insurance is paramount to the success of a universal plan and this is impossible with mandated health care as proposed by Hillary.

More Baloney from the Clinton Loyalists!
Barack Obama’s plan preserves our
“Freedom of Choice”!
Hillary Clintons plan takes it away!
Could Big Brother be far behind?
Obama’s plan is the more Democratic plan!
Hillary Clinton’s is the Socialist-Communist plan!

I also just went to both Clinton’s and Obama’s websites to read their healthcare plan.
One big clue about who will actually make a change that will matter is the front page of Obama’s site that declares he has not taken donations from the Health Industry (or the Oil Industry or the Weapons Industry) which tell me his plan isn’t going to protect the insurance companies unfair profits. Clinton’s plan is a poor copy of Obama’s because it doesn’t mention insurance companies profits as one of the causes of health care being so high in this country. Obama wants to make the insurance affordable for all by giving everyone a chance to buy into a similar insurance plan that Congress can buy into. And you better believe that’s a good one. Just the fact that he isn’t taking money from the health insurance companies and Clinton has taken a lot tells you who will be on ‘our’ side.
John Edwards, who is being virtually ignored by the (corporate influenced-they buy ads) media has the best plan for health care if you take the time to read his website where he has a lot of wonderful workable ideas under ‘issues’. And he isn’t taking big corporate donations either. Vote Edwards or Obama if you want meaningful change to the many problems facing our dear country.

You people keep going on about those that would be “FORCED” to buy health insurance,for about $30 per month,when they cant “AFFORD” it.Do you mean to say that these same people..should they get very sick or in a bad accident..could AFFORD a hospital/Dr. bills of about $30,000 OR MORE? Which ones of you are going to pick up their tab? Hmm?SOMEBODYS gotta pay it,by taxes or other means! Its only common sense that a small amount each month is VERRY affordable..considering the consequense, of losing your job,home foreclosure,ruined credit.etc.Wake up people and have some common sense!..or volunteer to pick up these peoples’tabs that cant ‘AFFORD” it..and i’m sure they would let you too.

The goal should be making healthcare affordable, so people will go out and buy it not force it down there throats. Our healthcare system needs to be retooled but this is not how to do it.

I think everyone having to purchase a healthplan sounds un-american. Don’t we all have a right to make choices? If the insurance is truly affordable and gives good coverage then wouldn’t most people want it? Maybe even switch to it. But some people because of their religious believes may not want or need the plan. I don’t blindly trust others. I want the right to be able to learn all about the insurance everything it covers how much it would cost me personally I don’t want to be forced.

I am tired of working to care of my family, just to have it taken away to take care of everyone elses. Clintons plan does provide health care for all, but at the expense of me and my family.

when u force people to do what they really can’t do, that is simply attacking their freedom of choice to do what they can do and not what they cant do. if you force (poor) people to buy healthcare when you know they really cant, that’s clippiing their freedom to choice. that’s not good at all, moreso in a democratic society. obama’s health care plan gives freedom of choice to poor people who cant afford it. when you allow freedom in people’s lives, they embrace what is needed to embrace wholeheartedly.

If Hilliary’s (Canadian style) health care plan is so great. Tell me why Canadians have to come HERE for health care. Socialized medicine means we all suffer. Believe me folks, it CAN be worse!!!

Obama’s plan for healthcare does NOT cover everyone! Hillary Clinton’s plan DOES. Look at the facts: Obama says he will work with insurance companies to ask them to make insurance more affordable (good luck in that), AND he says that once insurance is “affordable” (whatever that means), that everyone will just go out and buy it – even young twenty year olds with low paying jobs! Yeah, right. Last time I checked, most young people thought they were “indestructable”, and would rather go out and buy a new flat screen TV, instead of buying health insurance. Obama shows a real lack of understanding of human nature, when he says that young people will all rush out and buy insurance, all on their own! The reality is that everyone needs insurance – because we ALL have to pay for the irresponsible people who refuse to buy their own insurance, once those people get sick (the hospitals raise OUR costs to cover those uninsured people.) People need to pay their fair share. Obama doesn’t understand this basic principle – scary! That’s why he needs more experience, and time to study issues, before he could even think about becoming president.

The government bookeeper (OMB) has gone public with the fact that by financing three wars, adding prescription drug coverage, as well as the baby boomers retiring, not to mention with a devauling currency…. We CAN’T afford ANY kind of national health care plan! His own words. Any new entitlement on top of what we are currently funding under a trillion dollar defict, will BANKRUPT this country. In 1913 a dollar was worth one dollar, NOW it’s worth $0.13. People if we don’t change, we will not make it. This is how Russia’s economy collapsed in the Cold War. Half the world is moving from the dollar into Euros. And China, the IMF and the World Bank , own our national debt. What happens when they decide to get off the collapsing dollar and call in their loans? America’s economy is on the brink of collapse. If we don’t strengthen the dollar, 1929 will look like paradise. Nobody knows how to grow and maintain an independent food supply. What will you do when the dollar can’t buy you ANYTHING!!! Wake Up, and do something while we still can.