Clinton Camp Downplays Obama Win
ABC’s David Wright reports: Even before Obama’s victory, the Clinton campaign was already spinning the results, discounting the notion of an Obama victory here.
"Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in 84 and 88," former President Bill Clinton told reporters outside a polling station in Columbia. "Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here."
Translation? The Clinton’s want people to believe Obama is simply this year’s Jesse Jackson.
Clinton rejected any suggestion he or his wife were guilty of race-baiting in South Carolina.
"Man you’ve never been in many campaigns if you think this was ugly," he said. "This was a cakewalk."
Clinton insisted his message has been "99-point-9 percent positive for 100 percent of this campaign."
But many Democrats, including 2004 nominee John Kerry, feel otherwise. Kerry, who recently endorsed Obama in Charleston, said that being a former President is not a license to to lie.
Clinton bristled when asked to react to Kerry’s statement, noting he respects John Kerry and has supported him in the past.
"This is just part of politics," Clinton said. "We should just not take the bait and go on and make our cases."

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Notice how Hillary actually slights each state she loses as she is slighting Obama. For Iowa it was that the state didn’t pick winners anyway, and even in NH and NV it was complain, and dirty Obama’s record–then in NH, she “finds her voice.” In SC, she has dissed the state by saying they pick people who lose. And Bill already said that SC voters are probably going to pick someone who looks like them–in a sense claiming that the voters of SC can only see race. Did Obama say–”well, I’ll probably lose Iowa because they want to pick someone who looks like them” or did he say he wasn’t woman enough to win NH (though the media did spin the women’s vote). I hate the way the Clintons characterize the voters in States they are worried about, or states they lose. Obama doesn’t do that. Obama respects the win, whether it was for him or not. He certainly doesn’t diss the state BEFORE they vote. Hilary disrespects the turnouts, the results, and therefore the state itself.
Posted by: Jerome | January 26, 2008, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
WHEW! These Clintons are UGLY losers… Does this mean they don’t get to trash the White House like they did when Gore lost. NASTY folks… Let’s keep them in New York, America… PLEASE!
Posted by: ugh! | January 26, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
The Clintons will do literally ANYTHING to win. Their only game is to place race with this one. Do they actually think anyone will want to support her in November if she actually does become the nominee? Many democrats will feel ashamed of how they did it, and I, for one, will feel disgusted if it comes to fruition.
It is not 1988 any longer, and I hope people will stand up and reject this type of bigotry. Ridiculous…
Posted by: anything | January 26, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
To poster “ugh!” — We don’t want her in NY any more. I live in Manhattan — go Obama!
Posted by: anything | January 26, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Through the muck of dirty politics a true “statesman” reigns. Hillary and Bill could stand to learn a lesson from a man like Obama. He is a “statesman” with integrity and ethics. Of course, this is just one old, woman’s point of view.
Posted by: cjvwise1 | January 26, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
54-27 with 88% percent reporting. WOW!!! Holy mother of GOD… That was a repudiation of Hiliary and Bill if I’ve EVER seen one. Is they’re really hope for America? I’m amazed that of all places SC can help bring America together. Let’s hope this is a sign of things to come. And that the long national nightmare of the Hill and Bill show can be put away FOREVER!!! Way to go SC. That’s NOT racists OR sexists!!! That’s what America is all about. SC, you ROCK!!!
Posted by: ugh! | January 26, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
There has never been a better time for some informative thinking!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: C | January 26, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Clintons, shrewd and artful dogers, who are equally talented at miminzing and maximizing their losses and wins respectively. Their only deficit is that they think voters are dimwits. And that infuriates the latter and heightens their dislike of the Clintons. Equating Barak Obama’s win to Jesse Jacksons is, as many pointed out in this medium, is stating that he won because he is African American. Hmm. Barack routed Hilary in SC and IW where Jackson never won a single delegate. He nearly won in NH and NV. So, what is their explanation? I wish the clintons would buy a Winnibago and spend the balance of their grey days in retirement when Hilary might learn the fine art of smoking a cigar, which could spice up their marital life.
Posted by: Jamaal | January 26, 2008, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Aren’t “Black” voters Americans too? Does the “Black” vote count for nothing? Obama also won a 94% “White” state. let me say that again – 94 percent……..white. Obama won it. So, stop acting like this is some sort of fluke and it is of no importance when the truth is Obama is strong with white as well as blacks and THAT is what the word UNITY is all about!
Posted by: KHALIL | January 26, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
WOW! All that trash talk the clintons have been doing, didnt work, lol. Wonder what tricks they are going to pull out of the bag now?
Posted by: Listen Up | January 26, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
It looks like the Clinton’s plan is to give Bill a third term in the White House. President Clinton proved in S.C. that he won’t be the subdued, in-the-background kind of presidential spouse, as he was originally portrayed by Hillary. On the contrary, he will obviously be her equal in the White House, and with him much more camera-avid and well-spoken than her, President Clinton will clearly become the public face and voice of the White House. He’s just that kind of person, and this last week has demonstrated that beyond doubt.
With President Bill Clinton getting a third – unconstitutional – term in the White House, we may end up two dynasties running the United States for 28 years. Then perhaps Laura Bush will run – since she also has “White House experience.”
Posted by: alin | January 26, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Obama also nearly won New Hampshire, and won the Nevada rural areas.
Of all the candidates, he has the most votes. In Iowa, he won by nearly 100,000 votes. Here, he won by 150,000. In NH, he lost by about 6,000. Don’t know NV, but it was close.
Obama wins the popular vote, significantly, with more white voters than blacks.
Posted by: Kiku | January 26, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Moral of the story: Mudslinging doesn’t work. This is indeed a new kind of campaign.
Bill Clinton’s attacks are not “just a part of politics”, it’s only a part of HIS politics.
I’d rather vote for the rookie who is willing to learn something, and who helps his team and his sport than for the veteran who is only in it for one last ring before she retires.
Posted by: Emlyn | January 26, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I knew the Clintons were implying this Jackson comparison for the last week or so – and have posted that opinion here a few times – but never thought Bill would come right out and say it.
I’m just amazed. If Hillary does get the nomination, I’m not sure the African-Americans come back to the Democratic ticket.
Not that it would matter anyway. Clinton would lose among independents, giving the GOP another four years.
Posted by: Paul | January 26, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
It will be so nice to see Hillary win the democratic nomination. I can’t wait to say, ” I told you so” to all the sheep writing on this blog.
Posted by: Shiree | January 26, 2008, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
If there is any God at all, there won’t be another Democrat in the White House. They are simply not qualified.
Posted by: Tori | January 26, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
she tells it like it is. deal with it.
Posted by: jeff m | January 26, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Huh, Tori. That’s some statement. I guess that’s one difference between Republicans and Democrats. While we don’t wear our faith on our sleeve, we also don’t put it to political tests.
Posted by: Paul | January 26, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
The win for Obama, in South Carolina, was a win for Democracy, as we finally turn from the current president-by-inheritance trend. Way to go, South Carolina!
Posted by: Sarita | January 26, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
to anything: If you don’t want Hillary in New York then why don’t you pack up and move? Its as simple as that. I bet you can’t live like she can and don’t have the millions like her. Obama has about 1.2 million compared to Hillary’s 40m or 50m. What are all of you going to say if she wins the nomination. And all of you have to be stupid. This is the first primary Obama won and he had to win it to go ahead. Hillary didn’t have to win it she won two primaries and one caucaus. And Obama could not win against McCain so don’t take any bets on it. I didn’t expect Hillary to win in SC because naturally the blacks are voting for their own like me I vote only for my own also. Feb. 5th will tell the story and I understand she is leading in Florida and California. What are all of you going to say if she wins the nomination? Well, you can booze it up like Obama use to do.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 26, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Since the first debates I’ve been deeply disgusted with the absence of respect that Senator Clinton has shown for her colleague, Senator Obama. She has repeatedly denigrated his experience, his judgement, his remarkable sense of history, and his vision. Furthermore, with the aid of the only President who’s ever been impeached for perjury and subsequently disbarred, Senator Clinton has repeatedly distorted Senator Obama’s comments to create a racially divisive atmosphere in the hope of gaining white and Lationo votes. In her supercilious, patronizing manner we’re only a step from hearing her refer to Senator Obama as “boy”. I had really believed that Democrat’s white patronization ended in the 60′s and only remained as an O’Reilly Factor.
Posted by: dov | January 26, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Kiku: You must have your numbers mixed up or you can’t calulate figures. What school did you go to? Obama lost in NH and NV and was frustrated because he lost that Hillary won both when the news media had him winning both. He had to win in SC or else. Don’t take any bets because he is not going to win the majority of the big states. Hillary was endorsed by 10 Governor’s and Obama 5. I believe she will definately win the nomination and leave him to go back to where he comes from. Then he can run for president there. He would be right at home and so would his run of the mouth wife.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 26, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
The Clinton’s (especially bill) are professional politicians. They know that the only way that they can get back into THIER Whitehouse is to play down and dirty.
Expect the worse from them and remember every time they drag the contest into the mud, they are successfully turning off Americans desire to vote. These are the same Americans that Obama is reaching out to and inspiring.
This is modern aged disenfranchisement, and they know it. I believe they think it is their only chance at winning. Just look at the people the Clintons hang with, people like James Carville.—-birds of a feather, so to speak.
It will only get worse from them. I wish that there was some way for Senator Obama to point at exactly what they are doing, explain it and say. “THAT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF POLITICS THAT WE WANT CHANGED IN THIS COUNRTY”
That is something hard to express when you believe in taking the high road.
Good luck to us ALL.
Bill & Hilary are willing to do anything to win, no matter what it does to the Democratic Party or our country.
Posted by: Abe | January 26, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Personally, I believe the endorsement of Senator Barack Obama by Caroline Kennedy tonight speaks volumes. In closing she said, ” I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president – not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans”. Caroline is a very respected woman. I think this will have a huge impact on the female vote.
Posted by: GC | January 26, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Comparing Obama’s overwhelming victory to Jesse Jackon’s victory in ’84 and ’88 is just another not so subtle way for Clinton to say to white America HEY, OBAMA’S BLACK! DON’T FORGET THAT HE’S BLACK. AND UM, HE’S BLACK. Yes, Bill, we got that memo. But we aren’t the backwards racists that you take us for, even in SC. That’s why as many white men supported Obama as they did Hillary (not true for Jackson). And why Obama beat Hillary solidly among whites under 40 of both genders. So, Bill, your “red-neck baiting” didn’t work. So just stop it and grow up. You’re giving Southerners a bad name.
Posted by: Chelton | January 27, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Thank you South Carolina for this huge victory. Obama won in IOWA almost 100% where 98% are whites. So if they can say he won in South Carolina because he is black, I strongly disagreed with that statements. I think OBAMA simply won in South Carolina because of his vision and as he would like to re-unite he American people. He has leadrship capability. I think real leadership is about candor and judgment and ability to rallyAmericas from walks of life around a common purpose, a higher purpose. GO OBAMA!!!
Posted by: I.A.T Smith | January 27, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
If Obama doesn’t win SC with 60% african american then where? and please stop whining everytime Hillary question his records and abilities. Obama does not have any accomplishment to back up his words and only with hopes you can change anything. Obama stop crying!
Posted by: Heriberto | January 27, 2008, 4:53 am 4:53 am
Might the South Carolina slap in face
Restrain Hilly and her dual menace?
Will Billy continue his snippy ways
On and on till end of the race?
Will Hilly muster tears vain?
And Billy bark from manger again?
Will he who he hailed once from Hope
Heap on hope ever more disdain?
Posted by: MeeraDad | January 27, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am
O.J. Simpson would have won in S.C. against Abraham Lincoln. So don’t break your arms patting yourself on the backs Obama backers.
Think about this…. Why are the GOP’s so afraid of Hillary and don’t give a damn about Obama? Some food for thought for Democrats who are dumb enough to vote for Obama.
Posted by: Fairy tales for Obama | January 27, 2008, 6:05 am 6:05 am
some one need to tell Mr.Clinton that he has to stop doing dirty game again and again, he needs to wake up to the future and new vision of USA.
Posted by: Mike, VA | January 27, 2008, 6:13 am 6:13 am
from first in the south to who cares about SC, truly the rudest most uneducated people in AMerica.
Posted by: first in south | January 27, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
The Clintons are pathetic. Obama is no Jesse Jackson. Obama represents a movement way above any racial, gender, or cultural issues. This is a movement save America — no race left behind. Just because a bunch of white women in SC were obsessed with having a woman as president does not mean Obama has problem with white voters. He won easily in “white” Iowa and nearly won in “white” NH. Obama will do very well on Super Tuesday. It looks like this thing is going to a brokered convention.
Posted by: Bob, DC | January 27, 2008, 7:06 am 7:06 am
The south carolina vote tonight proved the same thing we saw in Nevada. African americans are RACIST. White people gave Obama a chance in Iowa and NH. African americans arent giving ANYONE a chance whatsoever. If it wasnt for Bill Clinton campaigning so hard there, Hillary wouldnt have even got the 17% . John Edwards had nothing to do with any of this. He is from South Carolina and won the state in 2004. Yet he got THREE PERCENT of the African american vote. They ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by: tom | January 27, 2008, 7:45 am 7:45 am
And again, Bill opens his mouth. When will he learn to shut up and let a woman drive. When will Hillary get out of her June Cleaver world and tell him to shut up?
Posted by: Susan Crossen | January 27, 2008, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Hilary and Bill have a deal. She helped him get to the White House and now it is her turn. He owes her and this is a debt that he has to pay.
Their strategy is to continue to try and marginalize Obama. Somehow when he wins it has less meaning then if she wins. Blacks who continue to support the Clintons are foolish. Whites, Latinos, Asians, etc. who can’t see through their political scheming are foolish. Now that Caroline Kennedy has endorsed Obama, she is just another private citizen whose opinion doesn’t count. Is everyone in the country stupid with the exception of the Clintons? When this race began I thought that I would vote for Hilary if she got the democratic nomination. I no longer feel that way. If she gets the nomination I will either not vote or I will for the first time in my life vote republican.
Wake up America!! Let’s change our hearts and minds and vote for a real person!–
Posted by: SC, WV | January 27, 2008, 8:24 am 8:24 am
I must say that I’m personally digusted by the South Carolina results. These results clearly show that race matters, and racism is alive and well within this country just not in the group we imagined. When 81% of a group votes for a candidate that’s significant, but let’s not just stop there, the candidate that they supported has no record! Has very little experience! But they do share one trait with the man, the color of their skin is the same as his. As a black man I’m honestly ashamed that color, and fancy rhetoric are clouding the judgements of so many African-Americans. There are so many more African-American politicians more qualified than Obama, that I go dizzy thinking about how the black community is giving him a free ride! I don’t know if Hillary or Obama will win the nomination, but I’d feel a ton better if this nomination process was about ideas, and less about a woman or a black man.
Posted by: Ryan | January 27, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
What else are they gonna do?
Posted by: LongT | January 27, 2008, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Oh, I see. When African Americans vote for a white man (Bill Clinton)it’s okay, but when they vote for a black man (who happens to be half white), they are just voting because he is black?
Are you kidding me??? I am a 28year old Asian American female. I am voting for Obama. Gee, must be because he is black.
Obama 08
Posted by: va girl | January 27, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am
TWO PRESIDENTS TOO MUCH, ANYWAY:
“…One problem with the George W. Bush administration is that it has brought a kind of plural presidency in through the back door. Vice President Dick Cheney has run his own executive department, with its own intelligence and military operations, not open to scrutiny, as he hides behind the putative president.
No other vice president in our history has taken on so many presidential prerogatives, with so few checks. He is an example of the very thing James Wilson was trying to prevent by having one locus of authority in the executive. The attempt to escape single responsibility was perfectly exemplified when his counsel argued that Mr. Cheney was not subject to executive rules because he was also part of the legislature.
We have seen in this campaign how former President Clinton rushes to the defense of presidential candidate Clinton. Will that pattern of protection be continued into the new presidency, with not only his defending her but also her defending whatever he might do in his energetic way while she’s in office? It seems likely. And at a time when we should be trying to return to the single-executive system the Constitution prescribes, it does not seem to be a good idea to put another co-president in the White House.”
Posted by: annevilla | January 27, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Every word out of Hillary is divisive. I have NEVER seen for such a long time, one person that us uniting people like never before until Obama came along. I wish him well for honestly despite the Clinton tag-team he is already making great changes to American multi-cultural society. I don’t see Hillary and Co making ANY bridges anywhere, only breaking more and more with their spite filled dirty tricks campaigning. Go Obama.
Posted by: Kate | January 27, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
way to keep the racial stuff out of the campaign Bill. You went right to a direct comparison to Jesse Jackson 20 years ago for that shot. SC is made up of a bunch of stupid niggards.
Obama did not ask to be voted for because he is black, because he will promote black issues. He is the best candidate. Period. When white voters vote int he majority for the white candidate does that make them racist? When they start saying that all blacks are alike, comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson for instance, is that racist?
Posted by: Louis | January 27, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
The Clinton’s can’t trust each other so how can we trust them???
Posted by: geddesman | January 27, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Thoes that want to belivie that this primary was not about race is are no different than the Bush administration when they ignore science to de-bunk global warming. Pull your heads out of the sand. Obamas win in SC was all about race and nothing else. Here is the math:53% of registered Democrats in South Carolina are African-American. Barack Obama, with 78 percent supporting him. Nineteen percent of blacks voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton. While a quarter of whites voted for Obama, three-quarters of whites split their votes between the two white candidates, Clinton and John Edwards, voting 40 percent for Edwards and 36 percent for Clinton. Edwards’ support came almost entirely from white voters. It is very resonable to assume had Edwards not been in the race that Hillary would have picked up most of the voters that supported Edwrads. Had this been about message and not race it would stand to reason that Edwards would have done far better than the 2% of African-Americans support he recievied. So Obama won almost exactly by the same percentage number as there were registered African-Americans with the exception of the 25% of white, most of whom are between the ages of 18-29, voters. Clinton of course did get 20% of the African-American voters to support her. If Obamas 25% white vote is news, then Clinton hanging on to 20% of the African-American vote is news as well. Futhermore, Obama and his media patrons made this about race, and spent the whole week slamming the Clintons, which took 10 points from Clinton and gave them to Edwards. Clinton left the state to campaign elsewhere while Obama spent the week courting the black vote almost exclusively. Obama proved he can win in a state with a majority of African-American Voters durring a negative campaign with a lot of media support. What happens when he has to run in the rest of the country. The most telling exit poll number was that 83% of thoes surveyed felt Clinton was the most experienced, and 53% (the exact percentage of African-American voters) felt the race should be about “change”. Super Tuesday will be grim for Obama and his supporters.
Posted by: Gordo420247365 | January 27, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
The Clinton’s are disgraceful, manipulative, and abusive phonies. How can anyone look at these two as individuals or as a couple and believe for a second that they are worthy of a vote? Talk about putting the inmates in charge of the prison. Wake up America and put these two white collar criminals out to pasture! The Clinton’s will need all the time they can muster to count their ill-begotten corporate booty! Some estimates are 200 million from Corporate America since they’ve left the White House! Ask yourselves why??? Remember it was President Bill Clinton that signed NAFTA into existence and fully supported the WTO (and Globalism) and just last evening he had the audacity to criticize everyone but himself for millions of American job loses when it is widely known that NAFTA is the root cause of American job loss! Talk about insulting! There’s a lot of EVIL in Washington and don’t kid yourself the Clinton’s are at the core of it! I’m tired of the ME generation, aren’t you? It’s time to turn the page, Vote Obama!
The Clinton’s can’t trust each other so how can we trust them? The answer is simple, we can’t!
Posted by: geddesman | January 27, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Why is the media insisting upon using this unprecedented step toward full equality as a source of division? I can’t figure it out. Both during a recent debate and out on the trail, Obama and Clinton agreed to leave the topic of race behind completely, since it is the Democratic Party that has consistently stood up for minority rights, the fight to end poverty, and focused their efforts on improving the middle class and giving those want to achieve that status the opportunity to do so. Yet for some reason the media can’t seem to understand that the American public is tired of the press holding a magnifying glass over something that does not address any of the major problems facing the United States. For several primaries now, the economy has been the issue that Democratic voters have cited as the most important in exit polls, with health care and the war in Iraq coming in second and third. RACE is not even on the list, so why is it being given so much attention?
Posted by: Curtis | January 27, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
The least Hillary could have done was to hung around for at least a moment to thank those who supported the Bill and Hillary candidacy.
Posted by: GC | January 27, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
This really upsets me. It’s troubling to think that Bill Clinton was once the leader of our Great Nation. Spewing his dirty politics and untrue statements about Senator Obama. From the beginning I didn’t trust Hillary, and her Husband has cut the cake for me….. I do not think very highly of the Clinton’s.
Posted by: Jerry | January 27, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
American people now need to get united for change. We first, need to change in our foreign policy to fix and restore our respect in the world. We can’t afford to make our national stigma permanent as occupier. People might be afraid of bullying power but have no compliment, respect, honor and dignity for an occupier. We must come out of the war with the earliest withdrawal of troops from foreign lands.
America can lead the world through compassionate leadership and helping others, especially the poverty ridden countries, in every way to improve their lots.
Hillary can’t do the job as world leaders won’t trust her as she already had mistepped in supporting Bush in Iraq’s war.
Obama is the man who can do this great job as an ambassador of American people irrespective of color, race and religious affiliations, not as a lackey of Washington’s establishment.
Now, the country is on the verge of economic recessioin. Fighting the non-sense war and spending tax-payers’ money in wars is the main cause of the economic disaster. If the country can take its hands off the war it can fix its economy and invest money in health and other important sectors, the only way to make lives of millions of poor and middle class comforatable and more befitting being Americans.
Electing a black president the nation can glorify itself as the great nation proving that it’s absolutely free from of apartheid mentality and truely secular and beleive in equality of every human as deemed in the constitution and lay out in the dream of our forefathers.
Posted by: abuusa | January 27, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Why do you all think ill of the Clintons? At least the male Clinton has proved that they can the economy of the country running perfectly with his record on the economy from 1993 through 2000. I hope all of you writing here really follow the economy and you know that the economy of this country and the rest of the world was at its best during the Clinton years. Bush 1 left behind a very anaemic ecomy. Where is dthe economy today? Look at what has happened since Bush entered the white house. Come on, do you really want peace of mind? Then, vote for another Clinton. That name is synonymous to economic prosperity.
Posted by: Doo | January 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Clintons are out. stay tuned. The times they are a’changin.
Posted by: A D Desorda | January 27, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
the author should make public how much money he/she has contributed to the obama campaign. why does the media have to be so biased? this is exactly the kind of stuff that led to the blunder of iraq invasion … Ok so obama won SC big , do the clintons have to sing in praise for him… look at his speech from NH after losing, its as if he just won the primary, also why doent anyone heckle obama the way they do it to the clintons??
Posted by: rayray | January 27, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
“to anything: If you don’t want Hillary in New York then why don’t you pack up and move? Its as simple as that. I bet you can’t live like she can and don’t have the millions like her. Obama has about 1.2 million compared to Hillary’s 40m or 50m. What are all of you going to say if she wins the nomination. And all of you have to be stupid. This is the first primary Obama won and he had to win it to go ahead. Hillary didn’t have to win it she won two primaries and one caucaus. And Obama could not win against McCain so don’t take any bets on it. I didn’t expect Hillary to win in SC because naturally the blacks are voting for their own like me I vote only for my own also. Feb. 5th will tell the story and I understand she is leading in Florida and California. What are all of you going to say if she wins the nomination? Well, you can booze it up like Obama use to do”.
LOL!LOL! Maybe we will all “Cry” like Hillary did,if she wins the nomination.
Or pray that Bill won’t use the Oval office like a “hotel” room like he did before. If you don’t remember Monica…don’t worry about it, the republicans will remind America of her if Hillary gets the nomination.
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Posted by: Shiree,
“”It will be so nice to see Hillary win the democratic nomination. I can’t wait to say, ” I told you so” to all the sheep writing on this blog.”"
Shiree,
Rest assured she will win the nomination. This win for Obama won’t change what will eventually happen. However, she will only win because of the hatched job her and Bill have done to THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Of course only some of us are able to see it and denouce their tactics. “The sheep” as you say, would be you all, those of you that are falling for it. Those of you that are letting them ram Hillary down your throats – regardless if she is the best candidate or not.
Now, just because she wins the nomination does not mean she will win the general election. Again, the rest of us aren’t sheep. It is because we are not sheep, it will be a cold day in you know were before we vote for that lying, dishonest, cheating, self-serving, power hungry, do-nothing politican name Hillary Clinton….
So the question then becomes, how do you suppose she will win with only half the support of Democrats? You know she won’t be getting any from the Repubs. since they hate the Clinton’s. The Indeps don’t want her either – because they like us, remember the scandal clad days of his administration and the divisiveness it caused. So, again, where will the votes come from?
Posted by: SC, WV,
Please whatever you do, DO GO OUT AND VOTE. I, too, was in the same position of supporting Hillary. I also pulled my support for her – but that was last year (I pick up on this very quick) when I stopped supporting her. I haven’t made up my mind who I am for now – Edwards or Obama, either would be fine with me. Eventhough, I haven’t made up my mind regarding the two remaining candidates, I do know that come Nov. I WILL NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be voting for Hillary. So I encourage you to vote – you don’t have to vote for her – just as long as you vote for someone. Either way, the Democratic party will get the message….This party is about us, not the politicians and their WANTS.
I totally agree. He turned what could have been a good and almost sure victory for this party into a street brawl and divided the party(among gender, racial, class). He insulted the intelligence of the voters. More important, he made the Democratic party look like a total joke.
As for the article, many of us already knew this would happen. This story is not anything new. I predicted this a week ago – as did many other people. Oh and this: “Clinton insisted his message has been “99-point-9 percent positive for 100 percent of this campaign.”
Well that is just a total lie. And that is the reason REAL DEMOCRATS should reject these people………get ready to take your Democratic party back America. That is if you are a fair minded and reasonable person.
Posted by: Nancy | January 27, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
“……also why doent anyone heckle obama the way they do it to the clintons”??
Maybe the hecklers have no respect for the Clintons.
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
I’m confused here. How can you say you are a Democrat voting for Obam but if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination apparently allot of you will vote for McCain. If that’s the case, then you are a disgrace. You Democrats in here are disgrace to tap dance on the Clinton years. Yeah I remember the Clintons years the greatest president in modern times. Yes we need change. We to change back to the Clinton years. And you can’t fool me I know allot of you Obama supporters are really republicans in drag.
Posted by: MR | January 27, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
“Why do you all think ill of the Clintons? At least the male Clinton has proved that they can the economy of the country running perfectly with his record on the economy from 1993 through 2000. I hope all of you writing here really follow the economy and you know that the economy of this country and the rest of the world was at its best during the Clinton years. Bush 1 left behind a very anaemic ecomy. Where is dthe economy today? Look at what has happened since Bush entered the white house. Come on, do you really want peace of mind? Then, vote for another Clinton. That name is synonymous to economic prosperity”.
What you said is true,but ummm Bill isn’t running or is he???
Are you suggesting that we should vote for Hillary,based on Bill’s record????
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
If Obama doesn’t win SC with 60% african american then where? and please stop whining everytime Hillary question his records and abilities. Obama does not have any accomplishment to back up his words and only with hopes you can change anything. Obama stop crying”!
What accomplishments and abilities are you suggesting Hillary has???
Being a former frist Lady doesn’t count!
Clintons stop lying!!!!
BTW, If Hillary wins the nomination…She won’t win the White House.
The Rebulicans are chopping at the bit for Hillary to be the Dems candidate…Wonder why????
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Well marge Hillary has a very good record in NY as a US senator for 8 years. What record does Obama have? I know you Obama supporters are Republicans anyway.
Posted by: MR | January 27, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
“I’m confused here. How can you say you are a Democrat voting for Obam but if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination apparently allot of you will vote for McCain. If that’s the case, then you are a disgrace. You Democrats in here are disgrace to tap dance on the Clinton years. Yeah I remember the Clintons years the greatest president in modern times. Yes we need change. We to change back to the Clinton years. And you can’t fool me I know allot of you Obama supporters are really republicans in drag”.
Now I’m confused….”change BACK to the Clinton years” is no change at all…Its just more of the Clintons. Going Back is not a Change.
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
“Think about this…. Why are the GOP’s so afraid of Hillary and don’t give a damn about Obama? Some food for thought for Democrats who are dumb enough to vote for Obama”.
On the contrary…The Republicans are not afraid of Hillary. They welcome her nomination. Some food for thought for those dumb enough to think she can win the Presidental election.
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
“Well marge Hillary has a very good record in NY as a US senator for 8 years. What record does Obama have? I know you Obama supporters are Republicans anyway”.
What are her accomplishments over the last 8 years?
I hope you’re not counting “her” vote in favor of the war good.
Posted by: marge | January 27, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Hey, people, it is real simple:
Obama = CHANGE
Clinton = SAME
Any questions?
Need more?
Clinton and Republican candidates = POLITICS OF DIVSION AND FEAR
Obama = POLITICS OF UNITY AND HOPE
Any questions?
Posted by: youneedtea | January 27, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Uhh marge what are Obama’s accomplishments? Hope? Yes marge you are confused not to realize the greatest economy ever under the Clintons. I find it hard to believe you are a Democrat. Some food for thought for those dumb enough to think obama can win the presidential election.
Posted by: MR | January 27, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
I’d love to see President Carter now step up and endorse Obama.
Posted by: PWho | January 27, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
It is unbelievable to me how ruthless and nasty the Clintons are being. They are on the same party/team (Democrat) and yet they are behaving like Republicans. It’s one thing to point out differnces but to play such dirty politics is embarassing. It just goes to show that a politician is a politician is a politician. More of the same old crap. Instead of a committment to to bring about real change to better our country, you get more politicians simply trying to stack their resume’. Just another notch on the career belt.
Posted by: kevin robinson | January 27, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Don’t think of the Kennedy endorsement as anything but a repudiation of , The Clinton’s. I mean if the Kennedy’s find them unacceptable that’s really speaking volumes!
Posted by: geddesman | January 27, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Posted by: MR,
“”I’m confused here. How can you say you are a Democrat voting for Obam but if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination apparently allot of you will vote for McCain. If that’s the case, then you are a disgrace. You Democrats in here are disgrace to tap dance on the Clinton years. Yeah I remember the Clintons years the greatest president in modern times. Yes we need change. We to change back to the Clinton years. And you can’t fool me I know allot of you Obama supporters are really republicans in drag.”"
It comes down to this, at the end of the day my own convictions are MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN THE CLINTONS. The Clinton years are over with, get over it. You can’t reverse time and they cannot fashion the economy to resemble what it was in the 1990′s. Are you aware what contributed to that economy? Please exercise some judgment. We aren’t Republicans because we feel someone other than Hillary would be a better candidate.
Posted by: kevin robinson,
“It is unbelievable to me how ruthless and nasty the Clintons are being. They are on the same party/team (Democrat) and yet they are behaving like Republicans. It’s one thing to point out differnces but to play such dirty politics is embarassing.”"
Exactly! And what you stated above is the reason why I pulled my support for Hillary. I won’t be some stooge or blind loyalist in the face of their actions. I guess they didn’t guess their tactics would put some people off but they are wrong. I can’t tell you the number of people I talk to daily, in real life – not over some computer – that are turned off by the Clintons and have vowed to vote against her if she is the nominee. Their gutter style politics is NOT what this party is about. That is how you deal with your enemies, not your opponent b/c you find yourself behind. That is what is disgraceful MR. We now look worse than the Republicans thanks to those people. I won’t soon forget what they have done either.
Posted by: concerned voter | January 27, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
let me tell you all this and i will move on. Voting is a must in this country and all candidate that are running will do and say any thing to get where they want to go so just relax and watch. normally the person that a newcomer just don.t have a chance at the end. so bye
Posted by: jack | January 27, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
I already cast my absentee ballot for Barack Obama and mailed it back. I live in Pensacola, Florida.
I encourage all fellow voters in Florida that can vote democratic, to vote for Barack Obama.
Hillary Clinton is not a good candidate, she breaks rules, spreads lies and wants to live by her own laws — not the laws the rest of us are stuck with.
Hillary Clinton is planning on campaigning in Florida on Tuesday after she signed an agreement not to. Now she is breaking the rules.
Let’s show Hillary Clinton what we feel about rule breakers and a candidate that lies, distorts, and wants to do everything her way — let’s vote for Barack Obama.
Barack Obama is an honest and decent man who is following the rules and is running a wonderful campaign.
Posted by: Andrea Taylor | January 27, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
MR: “How can you say you are a Democrat voting for Obam but if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination apparently allot of you will vote for McCain. If that’s the case, then you are a disgrace.”
Sometimes character and integrity are more important than party affiliation, I guess.
Posted by: Paul | January 27, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
By the way, MR, I’m an independent. The reason I never joined a political party was because I don’t see any reason to vote for a lesser candidate just because he or she is in a certain party.
I really do want to vote Democratic this time. And I often lean Democratic but not always. It depends on the person. My county supervisor is a Republican and I’d vote for him anytime – he’s really a good guy.
After the lunacies of the past seven years, I really want to vote Democratic. But you guys have to give me a candidate I can trust – and Clinton isn’t it.
Posted by: Paul | January 27, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
And as for the Clinton camp downplaying the South Carolina results, seems to me that Clinton was leading in the Palmetto state by more than 20 points just a couple months ago. Yesterday, Obama won by 28. That’s a 50-point swing in a very short time.
That’s an incredible triumph for Obama and a political disaster for the Clintons, no matter how you spin it.
Posted by: Paul | January 27, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Paul,
Thank You. I agree 100%. I am an independent as well and can not see us going with 20 years plus of bush/clinton. We need new. If Hillary gets the nom then I will have to reevaluate the choices and will vote for which on, I feel, can make a differnce, even it that means a thrid party candiate.
Posted by: ron | January 27, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Obama talks a good game, but he will NEVER get Republicans to vote for him in a general election in any significant amount. That is a “fairytale.” In his primary, he doesn’t have to speak about issues because he is talking to the choir. Which issues are the Republicans going to agree with him on? Drivers licenses for illegal immigrants? Continuing and expanding affirmative action? Leaving Iraq to the terrorists? Ending the death penalty? These are Obama’s passions. These are not the passions of Republicans, and these passions will be VERY difficult to sell to independents. Democrats…choose wisely. Issues will matter again very soon.
Posted by: nicholas | January 27, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
With all due respect for Mr. Obama and the campaign he has run I’d have to agree he has alot of good things to say, who can argue with that? but the major difference is, Obama has nothing really but his words so far, what has he actually accomplished? nothing much in his 2 very short years in the Senate. He skipped on 130 Senate votes, no one does that and gets things done, seriously. Change happens when you TAKE ACTION and sitting back and not voting 130 times, is not taking action. You know I have nothing against Obama’s ideas, but Hillary and Edwards both have alot more to back up their promises. One step at a time, I think Obama is an impulsive choice and the wrong choice for what America needs right now. Change is great! of course it is, we ALL want change and no one wants it and can make that change happen more effectively for what we all need to restore America right away quite like Hillary Clinton starting on her first day in office. Hillary has my vote and support all the way and John Edwards is my second choice, I wish Edwards would be Hillary’s running mate in fact, those two would be just awesome together. I would consider Obama another time but he is way too young, untested and inexperienced still for what we need done now. Do the right thing and vote for what we KNOW will work at a time in America’s history when we cannot afford to lose another another child, another job, another business, another family, another home, another day. Hillary already knows exactly what to do and how to do it, you cannot just promise that or say ‘yes you can’ make change, it takes hard work. You have to actually have the skills and know how to get it done like Hillary absolutely does. Bottom line, you don’t hire an amateur to do a professional job. Vote for Hillary for real serious, immediate change, she is the sure thing and she will not let us down.
Hillary All the Way!!!!!!
Posted by: Hillary Ready For Change | January 27, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Molly,
Republicans vote. It doesn’t matter the candidate. Democrats are over estimating the lack of energy in Republicans.
There have been record turn outs! Of course everyone forgets that in two of those contests Hillary won. This means that people turned out for record numbers for her too.
Posted by: Nicholas | January 27, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Clintons are the lowest form of life. Power mad pathelogical liars. They started the nasty dicourse and disrespect and spin in politics that nobody likes. Hopefully Americans have the wisdom to support a president that will focus on bringing people together, rather than tearing us apart for their own selfish interests.
Posted by: David Ayres | January 27, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
It seems like every time I read these posts there are a tremendous amount of Clinton haters. Talk about slash and burn politics. I can no longer distinguish who slashes and who burns.
Posted by: Rock | January 27, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Just think about who will bring good life to the American people. That person should be the president for us, not what he or she say, but what he or she has done in the past, present and future.
Posted by: Jing Li | January 27, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Stop crying you Obama lovers, you have spread more hate and negative and personal attacks on Clintons than even Republicans. They(Obama camp)said more negatives and personal attacks on Hillary when they were down on all polls nationwide. If you think this is negative wait for general election, also you can look back at 2000 and 2004 elections. This is nothing but real hard fought campaign on both sides, the only difference is that the Clintons are far more experience than Obama. Please don’t act like babies and first stop crying and second if you are real Democrat then yoy vote for who ever is the nominee Obama or Hillary.
How can you unite the country, you can’t even unit the Democratic party. Party unity should be on the top of list for all of us real Democrats. All the candidates come and go but the issues that seprates us from the Republicans are what should be much more important to us.
to memory of the 90′s
Posted by: Bob T. | January 27, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
I just finished reading every contributions made on this blog……found it really fascinating and can hear a cry for change for generation that really believes in change…….but the change isn’t across the ocean, it is right there with you…..If only you can remove sentiments and vote right.
personal opinion…there’s always a first time and wisdom can be given to anyone. scrutinize the candidates and forget the mask, and give your most valued vote to the an instrument of change.
Posted by: Clintton | January 27, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
It is important we remember that all the candidates are exceptional Americans who have contributed to the nation. Putting them down with undeserved sarcasm (for the most part) really doesn’t help a voter come to a reasoned decision as to whom he should vote for.
No one has mentioned it, but what are the candidates going to do to make sure the voting machines will be working honestly in a future election … you know the world is watching America and its example of democracy … let’s hope we don’t come up with another Gore-type election; it won’t matter who the Democrat candidate is.
Posted by: Don Jones | January 27, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Vote for John Edwards. Hillary & Obama don’t stand a chance against Republicans like McCain. Tell your friends to stop their wishful thinking (or tell them to drop their gender or racial biases) and face reality. Otherwise we’ll not only have a Republican President again, we’ll miss out on firing Bush-rubber-stamping Senators next fall when Hillary or Obama become the GOP’s main get out the vote strategy.
Posted by: Newt | January 27, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
I find it very amazing that Obama supporters are calling the clintons all kinds of dirty names just because they are desperate to see Obama win. If any Clinton supporter writes something or say something the press (CNN, FOX) will twist it beyond politics just to score cheap political gains for Obama. Today, the main polical talk in the press is about Ted kennedy and Caroline kennedy endosoring Obama but they don’t want to talk about Kathleen, Bobby and Kerry Kennedy’s endorsing Hillary Clinton.2 kennedy’s endorsed Obama while three kennedy’s endosred Hillary. Well the dems have already lost the election. All the John Kerry and Ted Kennedy tantrums is just all about envy. Come the baby/man John Kerry who couldn’t win Bush in 2004 still has the gut to open his mouth to talk. When Clinton was campaigning for him in 2004, Bill Clinton was a good man, the best president of America but now he is a dishonest man. Come on Dems whom are fooling? McCain or Romney will win hands down.
Posted by: chinyere | January 27, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Newt, I agree with you, with the kind of stupid acrimony Obama and his supporters have infuxed in between him and the clintons, both Clinton and Obama can never win the election. John is the only viable shot for the dems if they really want to take over White House. OBama, John Kerry, and Ted Kerry are playing politics with great envy. When the dems started loosing out was when John Kerry left his running mate John Edwards whom he prolclaimed to be the best then to turn around now to endorse Obama. He also forgot about Bill Clinton who campaigned all through with him, whom he also said was the best president of America. Now Clinton is a dishonest man to him. My question is why did it take him so long to discover that both John Edwards and Bill Clinton aren’t good enough
Posted by: chinyere | January 27, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Paul lunacies were created by you uninformed independents which I really call republicans. You have blood on you hands for electing this evil tyrant we have in office now. I blame you fence sitters for that. I vote for the policies not for the individual. I don’t care if a computer ran this country as long as it agrees with what I believe so be it. And for you so-called Democrats out there you are a disgrace to tap dance on the Clinton presidency with the greatest economy ever. You independents (republicans) are the ones that put us where we are right now.
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am
It’s funny how the media has a double standard here. Anything Hillary says is a horrible attack on Obama and anything that Obama says about Hillary is the gospel. How pathetic. Obama always states we need to get away from the past meanwhile they brag about the Kennedy endorsements. Aren’t they the the past?
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Hillary isn’t shrill; she knows how to project her voice wonderfully. So everybody hears her. This is how she explains her plans. she dosn’t just chant on and on about “change,” and “hope” and “something new.”
Vote Hillary in ’08.
Posted by: PC | January 28, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
I keep hearing you people talk about integrity and charactor. How can you talk about integrity and charactor when Obama has no record? He wasn’t there for the vote to send troops in Iraq so you have no idea how he would have voted. What has he accomplished? Why do you think US Senators never win in presidential elections? Because US senators have voting records that you scrutinize. With obama you don’t have that because he’s only been a US senator for 2 yrs.
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 12:26 am 12:26 am
I do believe I heard Senator Clinton congratulate Senator Obama on his win when I listened to her entire speech. Not the cut off version so many like to report and air. What was she supposed to do jump up and down? They are campaigning for the same job.
Posted by: Pat | January 28, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
The people who do not support Obama seem to do so not realizing that blacks have voted for white candidates for a very long time. They also don’t seem to understant that if It were not for the white vote Obama would not have won. Was it alright for the clinton backers to vote for hillary is it just because she is white or maybe because she is a woman. Those who say Obama has no experience who said you need experience do you think GW had any it is about the Ideas and Plans you bring to the table and can you put them forth to make this country a better place I think that Obama has laid out some fine points (if some of you would stop compare what the candidates are saying of course that means you have to read and not just go on sound bites or should I say bates given to tarnish someones character. Go to the sites and read up on the candidates and you will see that Obamas Ideas make sense Not because he is Black and by the way he does have a white mother
Posted by: Mr Monty | January 28, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
If you’re are a Democrat, you should vote to overcome this party’s obsession with Clinton couple and end their complicated relationship with truth and fidelity. I have always felt that when Clintons had the White House, they placed their own personal interests well ahead of those of the party; and their hunger for personal aggrandizement created a climate in which moderate voters all but bolted us to give the White House to the first Republican who could count from 1 to 10. Let us be smart and bring in a person who inspires and unites, and whose integrity and intelligence more than compensate for his relative youth. Running the White House requires the ability to listen, understand, plan, and lead; not the ability merely to recite 25 and 50 point programs to fix every picayune problem.
Sorry to digress to a pet peeve, but why exactly is she getting away with her claim that as First Lady (with no legislative responsibilities!) she was responsbile for spawning the S-CHIP program? If that aint a fairy tale– if she invented S-CHIP, then why, Mr. Gore sure invented the internet and just as surely, Bill Clinton never inhaled.
Posted by: MeeraDad | January 28, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
MeeraDad lets see here. She’s been a US Senator for the state of NY for 8 yrs. Obama a US Senator for 2. He has no record period. So how can you say he has integrity when he never has been scrutinized on the level Hillary? Unite? If you think obama is going to unite republicans and democrats you are delusional. The republicans are licking their chops to go up against Obama. They will rip him to shreds. They are afraid of Hillary because she’s tuff and knows how to fight unlike the last nominee for president (JOHN KERRY). He was a disgrace by not fighting the swift boaters.
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 2:46 am 2:46 am
There’s no uniting there is only defeating the opposition at all cost period. This a bloodless war and we have to defeat the fascist right. Obama is not tuff enough. He’s not the right person for the job. We democrats will need to be ruthless and do what ever it takes to win.
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 2:53 am 2:53 am
Kathleen Kennedy, Senator Robert Francis “Bobby” Kennedy and Kerry Kennedy endorsed Hillary Clinton. 3 kennedy’s for Hillary and 2 Kennedy’s for Obama. Why is the press not reporting it. Is very shameful that American press plays partisan politics, same way they are used by every GOP government to blackmail other countries/governments. Shame on you GOP CNN and GOP FOX news. Thats the way your sentimental reporting of international events brings hatred, scorn and mockery to America. You will never be objective for once. You always take side. Well your relevance is fast fading. Youtube will soon overtake you in news reporting.
Posted by: cynthia | January 28, 2008, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Cynthia I totally agree with you. But if I’m not mistaking I think Rupert Murdoch who owns FOXNEWS owns youtube.
Posted by: MR | January 28, 2008, 3:34 am 3:34 am
I am disgusted with Hillary Clinton. If she cares so much about the voters in Michigan and Florida why wasn’t she fighting for our delegates when they were first taken away? If she cares so much that our voice be heard why did she proclaim a victory in a state where her competitors names weren’t on the ballot? If she felt Michigan was wrongly penalized why did she not come to this great state and say that? Was it because she had nothing to gain then? Was it because she didn’t think this process would be this competitive? No matter what the reason she never cared, until now. Eleven days after we voted.
I can tell you one thing, if you live in Florida your vote does count. It may not be a vote for delegates, but your vote can deliver a clear message. Vote uncommitted.
Posted by: Ken M. | January 28, 2008, 3:36 am 3:36 am
Hillary and Bill are dirty winners and sore losers.
Posted by: JL | January 28, 2008, 3:51 am 3:51 am
Mr my only fear is that the GOP’s may succeed and then that will mark the begining of the fall of America. Cos Obama cannot win the presidential election. The GOP’s will stop giving him the undue press coverage he is enjoying now the moment he picks the nomination. I wish people will stop their emotions from beclouding their sense of objective reasoning. Fox news, CNN are fast losing credibility but they won’t understand until it may be too late to make any meaningful correction.
Posted by: cynthia | January 28, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am
Kathleen Kennedy, Senator Robert Francis “Bobby” Kennedy and Kerry Kennedy endorsed Hillary Clinton. 3 kennedy’s for Hillary and 2 Kennedy’s for Obama. Where is this not reported by CNN and ABC news?
Posted by: concelia | January 28, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
I think Obama has long way to go. Continuously, he failed to present a big picture and is involved in “He said, She Said” and “Fairy Tale” fights. As a President, Obama will have to deal with thousands of challenges and these challenges will be as or more tougher than Hillary.
As a President, will he solve the problem using “He said, She Said” and “Fairy Tale” tactics or will we see real problem Solver. Only saying he is ready and promoter of change will not help. We need more from Obama.
Posted by: CPM | January 28, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am
(continuing my previous post)
I see Hillary as a Problem Solver and listener and not just a inspirational speaker. Whenever she had challenges in Campaigning, she have used all the assets she had to address challenges like covering all counties in Iowa in one week, first to release stimulus plan etc.
Posted by: CPM | January 28, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am
Cynthia – independents decide national elections. Independents like Obama more than Clinton. He’s the stronger general election candidate.
Posted by: Paul | January 28, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
The Clintons did not trash the white house. Another republican smear story, the GAO investigated the claims and found nothing.
Vote Edwards or Obama!
Posted by: rocko273 | January 28, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
I’m gonna guess that many of you Hillary supporters are too young to remember the first Clinton term and the venom she inspired when she got involved in crafting the healthcare bill. Maybe you were living in an extremely blue state and didn’t see what affect she had on people. It was ugly. She is certainly capable but it is a fact that she will divide this country like never before. If you can’t admit that you are either daft or a republican masquerading as a Hillary supporter.
Posted by: socko273 | January 28, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Bill Clinton admonished the voter’s with this judgment: “Man you’ve never been in many campaigns if you think this was ugly,” he said. “This was a cakewalk.” What this makes clear is just how much uglier the Clintons are prepared to get to realize their entitlement. The Clintons must know they are working against the clock because with every passing day, more of those Democratic regulars who took the safe shelter of the Hillary camp will be seeing that it is neither safe nor representative of the course their party should follow to November.
Posted by: Richard | January 28, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
I have not seen race being an issue with the clintons or obama. It’s the press who is twisting the words of the candidates. I for one think obama is talking change but he has nothing to back it up. His record in the senate is not that great. Hillary has the experience and would surely beat a republican any day. Go Hillary!!
Posted by: kt | January 28, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I agree. REAL Change means No “Bush” -or- “Clinton”;-)
Posted by: Craig | January 28, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Americans make no mistake about Obama’s Islamic root. Take a look at what he Obama wrote in his own book.
Obama wrote about an influential American Muslim; “El-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz (Malcolm X)” who served as the spokesman for the militant Nation of Islam
Obama wrote; “His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me; the blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will.”
He added: “El-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz (Malcolm X) discovery toward the end of his life, that some whites might live beside him as brothers in Islam, seemed to offer some hope of eventual reconciliation.”
Obama’s family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.
“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”
Meanwhile, Obama remained sharply critical of what he called “the religious absolutism of the Christian right.”
In “Audacity,” the senator wrote that such believers insist “not only that Christianity is America’s dominant faith, but that a particular, fundamentalist brand of that faith should drive public policy, overriding any alternative source of understanding, whether the writings of liberal theologians, the findings of the National Academy of Sciences, or the words of Thomas Jefferson.”
Although the overwhelming majority of Americans describe themselves as Christians, Obama does not believe that any one religion should define the United States.
“We are no longer just a Christian nation,” he argues in “Audacity,” which was published last year. “We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”
“In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans … have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging,” he laments. “I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
I want us to look at the life of Eli Cohen; a celebrated Israeli spy who is recognized as one of the most successful spies of modern times.
I can see another Eli Cohen in the making. All what may be needed from Obama is to reveal American secret defence technologies and the matter is over. Rusia and china will over-run America in one slight battle. We should remember how secret information on America and UK atomic bomb research was leaked to USSR by Klaus Fuchs; a German-born theoretical physicist and atomic spy who was convicted of surreptitiously supplying information on the British and American atomic bomb research to the USSR during, and shortly after, World War II.
A good spy must be very bright and charming to win enough confidence required to be placed in a sensitive position. If Fuchs wasn’t brought into the core of atomic bomb research, may be today Russia wouldn’t have had Nuclear bombs and frankly all these issue of proliferation wouldn’t have been at all.
I am not against Obama but I don’t think he is worth taking a risky security chance on. If you don’t like clinton why not John Edwards?
Posted by: kingsley | January 28, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
The Clinton campaign today announced the endorsement of the American Nurses Association (ANA). The ANA represents the interests of the nation’s 2.9 million registered nurses. GOP CNN will not write about it just like they didn’t write about the endorsement of 3 kennedy’s (Bubby, Kerry and Kathleen) for Hillary. Obama was endorsed by only 2 kennedy’s; Caroline and Teddy. American Nurses Association endorsement is very huge endorsement. Ride on hillary
Posted by: kingsley | January 28, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Fellow Democrats:first of all who ever won in the democratic party I will support because that how you suppose to act as a member of the party. Most of us know that most of the media, esp the big once such as CNN, Fox,ABC and so on, are bias toward Hillary and this is not a coincident and they want her lost and want Obama win. I tell you why: as a democrat we know Republican = MOSTLY Rich with less compassion,and middle class or poor who are against abortion, gay marriages or in other words very strict followers of the Bible. These rich people control the media and they are trying hard to help Obama because they can beat him in the general election and they know they could not do that with Sen. Clinton because Bill has proven that not once but twice! Again I’m not again Obama but I don’t think he ready yet because he doesn’t much experience yet and he whined so easily.
I would like to ask my fellow Democrats to really think about it. We need to win. Republican will try to manipulate the media but we, Democrats I belive are smarter than that. My friend said, he doesn’t want to go back to Iraq and come back without the a job.
Posted by: art | January 28, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Every democrat needs to remember that the Republican Party is going to go all out on the Democratic Nominee whether it’s Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama. I like Sen. Obama a lot but I don’t see him winning the general election considering that the nominee needs to win a couple of Southern states. If the Republicans are smart they would select Sen. McCain and by no means do I think that Sen. Clinton would have an easier time beating Sen. McCain but one needs to remember that we know everything about the Clintons and Republicans don’t have a hail mary against the Clintons and the Sen. Obama rumor about being Muslim will curtail his campaign along with other Republican mud.
As a Latino, I also think that Sen. Obama will have a hard time winning the Latino vote not because of ethinicity but because of Sen. McCain’s immigration bill. In my opinion Sen. McCain would make California a competitive state and the Southwest more difficult for Sen. Obama to capture. On the other hand, Sen. Clinton is strong with Latino voters and she will have a good chance of winning Ark and more importantly Florida. We also need to remember that aside from the Clinton’s personal vices, the country’s economy was in good shape during his tenure. Personally the only drawbacks to the Clinton Presidency was the Welfare Reform Act and NAFTA.
Posted by: Angel | January 28, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Angel – a McCain-Clinton match-up would be terrible for the Democrats. Independents like McCain. The only one who would have the upper hand against him is Obama.
Independents decide elections, most of the time.
Your point about Latinos is a good one, though. Still, I don’t think Obama would have any problem carrying California over McCain. McCain obviously would have some advantages in other Southwestern states, but he’d have that over anyone, except maybe Richardson.
Obama also would bring some regional advantage to the usual battlegrounds in rust-belt states.
Given all the advantages built in for Democrats this time around, if a Democrat can win support among independents, though, its a done deal.
Posted by: Paul | January 28, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
{kingsley aka clinton supporter} ~ Get your facts straight ~
Barack has been a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, where he continues to attend services with his family. Barack has never been a Muslim or practiced any other faith besides Christianity, and in January 2005 he was sworn into the U.S. Senate on his family Bible.
For REAL Change means No “Bush” or “Clinton”;-)
Posted by: Craig | January 28, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Angel, please remember that Bill Clinton’s record has nothing to do with Hillary running for president unless you are forgetting no one by law can run for a third term. Bill is not running, Hillary is.
The same Hillary who did not read the Iraq resolution, voted yes on it, thus enabling Bush to invade Iraq. Obama read it, declared it publicly to be a bad idea, intelligently outlined why and voted no. He also publicly came out against NAFTA when it was being voted on, while the Clintons championed NAFTA. We now know what a disaster that was for our manufacturing jobs.
Obama is the kind of intelligent leader we need. If he could spot the disasters that the Iraq resolution and NAFTA were, he has the leadership qualities to be our next president.
Posted by: Lydia | January 28, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Obama’s Achille’s Heal. Interesting developements around Rezko!. Hey Obama – the Media built you up and the Media will take you down. Obama won Iowa and SC and Hillary won Nevada and New Hampshire. HIllary has more delegates. Obama you will fall as fast as you have risen. I am glad I didn’t fall for the media hype. Obama got endorsed by Drunken Senator who vitually left a poor woman for Dead because he hadn’t reported the accident and would about Patrick – I would want there endorsement.
Posted by: Frank | January 29, 2008, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Looks like the Clintons could use a little impulse control–especially Bill!
Posted by: anybodybutclinton | January 29, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Looks like the Clintons could use a little impulse control–especially Bill!
Posted by: anybodybutclinton | January 29, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Mariann Pepitone,
I just thought you would like to be informed. In Iowa Senator Obama won the state in NH, close call in fact both he and Hillary gained 9 delegates each; NV, again close call but Senator Obama won 13 delegates to Senator Clinton’s 12; SC Obama won by a landslide. You do the math and you will see that Senator Obama is in fact winning by capturing America’s attention. I am voting for Senator Obama because I have the audacity to hope that America can get better and will with Obama as President.
Posted by: RLE | January 29, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
This is in response to Mariann Pepitone and others who think like her. How ignorant of you to say that African Americans only voted for Senator Obama in SC because he is Black. I will have you to know that there are those of us, African Americans who are capable of reading the newspapers and surfing the internet and focusing on the issues and then and only then deciding who is the best candidate. it is apparent that you like the Clintons are what makes America divided, we need Senator Obama to Unite these United States; it’s time for a change and yes as I will vote for Senator Obama 2/5 in NJ not because he is African American but because he is the best candidate for the job. Unlike yourself I have the audacity to hope for a better America
Posted by: RLE | January 29, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Vote Hillary and you will have the good days of the 1990′s.
Experience and hard work for stability and common sense.
Fantasy and rhetoric are huge risks and totally immature decision-making.
Hillary for happiness.
Posted by: cheryl | January 29, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm