Clinton Camp: Florida Matters

Gerard C., my friend, your spin is making me positively dizzy. Mrs. Clinton DID INDEED vote for the Iraq invasion, and in fact voted for the one of two competing versions of a war-authorization bill which more Democrats at that time (and today) found most disturbing, essentially handing Bush an open-ended blank check.

CNN, while covering the MI primary rightfully asserted that hundreds of thousands went out to vote, why should the media ignore it.
Although a few people in Washington stripped FL of it’s delegates, when a million people vote, it’s indeed news.

The primary system is dysfunctional at best. During the last election, my vote didn’t matter because the democrats and the media had annointed John Kerry before Super Tuesday. Every state should have a right to be counted. If I was a democrat living in Michigan or Florida, I would be hopping mad that my party was playing games instead of making sure everyone had a fair say in who was the party’s nominee.

Forgive me, kristoph, but what on earth are you talking about??? Please explain how Obama and his supporters are disenfranchising *anyone,* much less 1 million voters? Obama is *bringing new voters* to the polls in huge numbers!

UM, it was agreed and ruled upon by the DNC that Florida and Michigan will not have delegates in the Primary. It is a done deal and not going to be changed. She’s prepping for the general. That’s all, and falsely so, she won’t be running.

Clinton is a two-faced opportunist. After agreeing with the party that Florida was off the table she goes there to campaign for a symbolic win, just like in Michigan. It will be touted, but there will no delagates and the turnout will be a gesture at best. She is looking for press. She will be another four years of Bush. Lying when it suits her and trating the American people as too stupid to know what they want.

jac13 – All 3 democratic canidates are on the ballot in Florida and Obama is the only canidate that has been showing ads in Florida and Michigan. The people have a right to vote in all 50 states and all states should count, you should not punish the people for something the admistration did.

Jojo – uh, there was essentially an up and down vote in Michigan with Obama and Edwards supporters voting uncommitted and Clinton supporters voting for her. And Clinton beat out “uncommitted”.

cepher- hardly anyone voted because it wouldnt matter on the democrat side!..geeze…

I wouldnt vote in Michigan if they wern’t handing out delegates! What would be the point? I agree with you jojojune.Clinton’s latest attempt to play another game is comical.

Right On Kristoph! I have more outrage at the comments filled with vile hatred from Obama supporters toward Hillary, regardless of their political views, they’re attacks are disgraceful and petty. It’s weird cult like behavior.

Posted by: Silvia,
What about the amount of people that did not bother to come out because they KNEW it was a waste of time and it wouldn’t count? What about those people? If she wants Michigan, then she should be prepared for a do over. You don’t know if their supporters ALL voted.
Regardless, it doesn’t matter if she actively campaigns or not, the message is out there………
This is just another attempt at grabbing power. This is one of many reasons I will not vote for Hillary. Different day, same bull….
This also another example of how this campagin is and always has been all about her, while the others campaigns are about the nation…..What does Hillary want? What will benefit Hillary? How can Hillary come out on top? Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary…Sick and tired of Hillary.
I say let her go for the delegates. It’s already been reported they’ve been trying to get them for some time now anyway. The more this is in the news, the more it drives people AWAY from Hillary – much like having Bill as her lap dog. Needless to say, I agree with Richard, Memphis, TN……..Just more of a spotlight on her. But not a positive light, more like desperation and willing to do whatever it takes to win…..
I do have one question for her supporters though: What happens if she is not the benefactor of the delegates? What if this back fires, will you all then say the delegates should count?
And while you all are fussing with Obama supporters, you might want to use your heads. Stop trying to find something on the guy. Compared to the Clinton’s he is SPOTLESS, yet they are criminals. So, it looks bad when you all defend her at the expense of your party and loyalty to her. After all, She won’t be able to win if fellow Dems vote against her and many I suspect will.
Face it, she doesn’t evoke warm and fuzzy feelings in most people…. Anyway, fellow Dems might decide to join the Rep. and throw this election to them. Have you all ever thought of that? In other words, grow up. She is not more important than your party. And you all make 3rd graders look mature.

When former supporters of her husband and her say her actions in Florida amount to narcissism and sleaze… when it is ok to bend the rules to suit you, but scream bloody murder when they are against you… your name is Clinton.
Please America, wake up… vote for the future and not the past… vote for a candidate who name is not Clinton.

If the news media called Obama’s win in SC a sweep look at the figures in Florida for Hillary then you’ll know what a sweep is and she swept Obama under the rug. Florida and Michigan are going to try and obtain the delegates back because its not fair to the people and the state. I hope they take it to court.

If Billary is on the ticket, she will not win a single southern state. She cannot compete with McCain b/c he knows the truth and she does not. Can a Billary supporter tell me one piece of policy she has enacted that has helped Americans? Please do not include whitewater, travel gate, our wonderful universal health care, and her lies about the Children’s Defense Fund support. Do you just look at her and believe the words that come out of her mouth. Check the facts on Hillary.

if mccain wins the republican nomination, it is over b/c he will get the independent vote which was not allowed to vote today in FL. thus, this is an important win for him b/c he proved that he can win among republicans only. also, a theme is emerging on some of the black logs that a growing percentage will vote for him as well. he is a proven leader and he tells the truth. if the republicans get 20% of the black conservative vote which they do each election, mccain can get another 5-15% of the black vote, the conservative latino vote, the traditional republican vote, and the moderate independent southern white vote, billary is toast. the black vote is a loyal base for the dems. but it seems that the post civil rights generation is sick of the race-baiting and is beginning to look at alternative candidates. Again, billary is toast. she is a divider and just examine her record. when are people going to investigate the records of the candidates? i am sick of reading sites that cannot provide any evidence (i.e., policy)regarding why his/her candidate. u cannot win an election w/o carrying at least one southern state – remember 2000 & 2004. the dems are in trouble. who will be her running mate? there are at least two southern govs. that are democrats(males) and if she does pick one of them, it does not mean he can carry his state. in north carolina, they vote a split ticket all the time (i.e., gov. dem. and vote rep. in the national election). u guys are missing the big picture with the diversions (non countable delegate votes and the snub). she is destroying the base voters with her tatics. amazing!

DITTO DITTO THE LAST RESPONSE THANK YOU NANCY — As a conservative democrat, I am so alienated by the rather desperate and “childish” behaviour of the Clintons’ in their sleezy, low life attempts to discredit Obama that I am not likely to vote for her even as dog catcher if she should win the nomination — unless of course Obama is on the ticket. Otherwise, I will vote my conscience on the one issue which concerns me — abortion, I hate to say — Republican.
c gingrich

Democrats… snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.